Romney softens critique of unions at Education Nation summit

At the annual Education Nation summit, President Obama and Mitt Romney described their plans for creating a better-educated country. NBC's Rehema Ellis reports.

 

NEW YORK-- Mitt Romney softened his tone toward teachers unions and highlighted his record as governor of Massachusetts at NBC News' Education Nation summit Tuesday in New York.

The Republican presidential nominee offered one of the most detailed glimpses of his education policy at the forum this morning, laying off his often brusque language toward unions and playing up parents' role in the educational success of their children.

At the Education Nation Summit NBC's Brian Williams spoke with GOP contender Mitt Romney, who shared his positions on teachers unions, strikes and compensation.

Teachers' unions, long the villains in Romney's public remarks on education, received somewhat gentler handling from the GOP nominee today, who said he "understood" the unions had to look out for their members, and that they had a right to strike over grievances -- but that parents also had the prerogative to look out for their kids' educations.

"The teachers' union has every right to represent their members in the way they think is best for their members, but we have a every right to in fact say, 'No, this is what we want to do, which is in the best interest of our children,'" Romney said, before offering his prescription for improving the quality of teaching. "I believe the best interest of our children is to recognize that teaching is a profession, like your profession, like my profession, like lawyers, like doctors, and that the very best are more highly compensated and rewarded and measured."

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The former Massachusetts governor spoke and took questions on topics relating to education for 45 minutes here today as part of NBC News' Education Nation summit, and gave some of his most nuanced views yet on the issues at the heart of the effort to improve America's faltering public education system.

Romney also softened his tone, but did not change his argument, on the issue of class sizes, an issue on which he's battled teachers unions before, both in Massachusetts and on the campaign trail. Romney has called the fight for smaller class sizes a union-driven issue designed to spur the hiring of more teachers. He regularly cites a study authored by the consulting group McKinsey & Co. which shows class sizes, within a reasonable margin, are not a leading indicator of successful schools.

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In the final push in the 2012 presidential election, candidates Mitt Romney and Barack Obama make their last appeals to voters.

Today, Romney said his experience in Massachusetts taught him that class sizes "turned out to be a factor, but not a big one," to successful students, but continued to push for higher standards and pay for the best teachers, and for more parental involvement in education.

"The involvement of parents, particularly two parents, its an enormous advantage for the child," Romney said after retelling a story he heard from a teacher in Massachusetts who told him the way to tell if a student would succeed in school was whether or not their parents came to parent-teacher conferences with regularity.

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Education has been one of the top issues for Romney outside 2012's dominant theme, the economy. The former Massachusetts governor often turns to the topic of education in speeches before minority audiences.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney spoke with NBC's Brian Williams on the importance of education, teachers compensation and early childhood education at Education Nation.

Romney held up several models for successful education reform; including his own tenure in Massachusetts, the reforms passed in Florida under Republican governor Jeb Bush, and the charter Harlem Children's Zone, some 100 blocks north of the site of today's event.

Romney even praised the current Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, mostly for his efforts to reward innovative schools and for opening options for more school choice, but stopped short of saying he would offer the Democrat a spot in his own cabinet.

"I'm not putting anybody on my cabinet right now, Brian," Romney laughed to moderator Brian Williams. "It's a little presumptuous of me, but just a little."

The Obama campaign wasn't laughing along.

“Mitt Romney’s education rhetoric today may have sounded nice, but it doesn’t square with his record or policies, which are informed by the mistaken belief that we can somehow improve our schools while cutting their budgets and laying off teachers," Obama campaign spokesperson Lis Smith said in a statement.

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Can the man ever just say what he really believes and let the chips fall where they may?

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Reply#52 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

I think most people believe that the Teachers Union should do what they can for the Teachers. Afterall, they do represent them and charge the Teachers for that service. However, what I have an issue with is them constantly claiming it is for the KIDS - they do not represent the KIDS they represent the adults. Tell the truth!!!!!

Also, I have a problem with the way they operate - - using dues to get politicians elected that they know will sign the contracts giving them benefits that they should now is out of the mainstream, even for businesses - and making the taxpayers pay for it with NO reprocussion if they do a poor job and the KIDS are not getting more educated - only the parents are getting poorer.

Political payoffs to get their way is contract that are out of the norm and which is what is causing most muncipailities major financial trouble today.

    Reply#53 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

    Flip, flop, flip, flop. The Etch-A-Sketch Candidate. He moves to the Far Right to get nominated, now he moves to the center for the general election. If by some God awful event Mitt gets elected, where will he govern from?

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    Reply#54 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

    Give us a break Mitt' we know you Repubs hate unions and have for years.We also know why airplane windows don't open.

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    Reply#55 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:50 PM EDT

    Flip Flop Goes Romney...

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    Reply#56 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:50 PM EDT

    Obama Sweep! Now Leads in All Key States, Even N.C., Nevada, Colo.

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    Reply#57 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:50 PM EDT

    Romney/Ryan [AKA] Crusty the Clown/Sideshow Bob....

      Reply#58 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

      We all know the GOP hates most educated people,except their GOP leaders. Educated people do NOT vote for the GOP. The party of bigots,Biblethumpers,Rapture lovers,white trashers and racists. The GOP is most popular in white trash trailer parks,the inbred,uneducated buy the GOP lies and BS lock,stock and barrel. Rush is their God who instructs them on who too hate today.

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      Reply#59 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

      Tony,

      Did you use "too" when you should have used "to"? Or, was that an uneducated, simple mistake?

      By the way, you will find that most "trailer trash" votes DEMOCRAT.

      You also left out that we republicans hate women, love dirty air and water, want the sick to fend for themselves and hopes that grandma falls off a cliff. Yes, "we all know that"!

      Did I leave anything out, p(utz?

        #59.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:56 PM EDT
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        haha hes doing damage control....now since he screwed up least 50 times saying what any rich man would say bout anyone who makes less than him.... now wants to be buddy buddy....only suckers would wanna be his friend thinking he has changed !!!!

          Reply#60 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

          In many states, the amount of money spent on current and retired teacher's health care benefits far out spend the money that goes to the high schools and universities of those states.

            Reply#61 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

            Flip Flop....Flip Flop .......................all this from a man that wants the Windows on airplanes to open and doesn't understand why they don't.

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            Reply#62 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

            To late Romney, you would sell out your mother for the presidency.

            You are as trustworthy as a pit viper in a cashmere bag.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#63 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

            Fairly,

            Did you mean to say "too" late and not "to" late? I bet it was an honest mistake.

              #63.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:59 PM EDT
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              It amazes me everyday the liberal media is just trying to look for something to hang him with. They are all jumpimg out of thier own skin trying to find something. That means that the Democrats are scared and I laugh out loud, because nothing is better to watch ,than a bunch of buffons drive themselves crazy. GO ROMNEY!

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              Reply#64 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

              To bad the average american is essentially cattle following the one in front of it. These are Obama supporters.

                #64.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

                They are all jumpimg out of thier own skin trying to find something

                Or just reporting what actually comes out of his mouth, whichever.

                Sorry , got to go and open the airplane window, it's really smoky in here.

                  #64.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:56 PM EDT
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                  Mitt will do much better than our out-of-control, way in over his head Obama.

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                  Reply#65 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

                  Really Brooks? If running a campaign is the first indication of how effective a candidate will be at running an administration, then it's clear that Romney is the one who is clearly in over his head.

                    #65.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:05 PM EDT
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                    I guess he's peeved about the ref strike, too.

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                    Reply#66 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

                    Does this mean Willard is for the Public Sector Union worker, before he was/is against the Public Sector Union worker, or maybe he thinks his TEA PARTY Talking Heads aren't listening, watching. Maybe he's FLIP-FLOPPING again!

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                    Reply#67 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

                    Can it be more obvious, yet again, that this guy will say anything he needs to say to try to get elected? How can anyone trust someone to lead the country when he's clearly as shallow in his convictions as the rivers in the drought-plagued Midwest? What a joke!

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                    Reply#68 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

                    As Mitt and Lyin' ride Rafalka off into the sunset I can hear the closing credits begin to the 4 hour movie which was done in just 3 hours:

                    Ultra-conservative Mitt, we hardly knew ya'

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                    Reply#69 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

                    No - he's EXTREMELY-CONSERVATE Mitt - remember?

                      #69.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:56 PM EDT
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                      There he goes again back peddling... This is why he is out. He reminds me of a cleaner version of The Texas Governor... ricky perry.

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                      Reply#70 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

                      This guy is a plain Ole idiot. Plain and simple.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#71 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

                      Flip Flop'n, If I was the Republican Party I'd start endorsing another candidate.......... Romney screwed things up beyond repair..........

                        Reply#72 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

                        Does he really think softening his view, or in some instances just plan changing it, this late in the game is going to change any ones mind?

                          Reply#73 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

                          Governor Romney, you cannot praise teachers at one time, while referencing them as "union thugs" at another. You cannot praise teachers, while calling for the dissolution of the unions that represents the interests of the teachers and the children with whom they work. It simply isn't that easy. Teacher unions are the bedrock of public education, working for positive change for the students, communities, and nation as a whole.

                            Reply#74 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

                            Let's see now - it's Tuesday, so that must mean that Mitt is changing his position again on a particular subject.

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                            Reply#75 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

                            , so that must mean that Mitt is changing his position again on a particular subject.

                            Weekends aren't Mitt's best microphone days.

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                            #75.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:57 PM EDT
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                            Softened his tone? What he said was I'm sorry you're bad for our kids! And he picked one of Scott Walker's henchmen to be one of his henchmen for his Veep, so let's be serious; he, and by extension, the entire Republican Party, is anti-Union, anti- environment, and anti-everything else we Thought we FIXED over the last 50-100 years!

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                            Reply#76 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:55 PM EDT
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