Problem is that the secure Israel and Independent Palestine both want to be in the same place. Maybe we could just make bunk-countries. The fight then would be over who gets top bunk, I guess :-)

Time for the amateur to go home.

This guy spends more time at $28,000 a plate fund raisers than dealing with foreign affairs.

Foreign affairs are women's work, and that is why Obama told Hillary to handle it. After all Hillary was far more qualified to be president then Obama, but liberals just swoon over someone that can actually read.

We don't let others DICTATE our foreign policy or the President's schedule.

We LEAD we do not follow.

Dont_carry_it_all

We don't let others DICTATE our foreign policy or the President's schedule.

We lead we do not follow.

Unless you're a Muslim

This report, garnered from an Intel report from 16 of our Intel Agencies is a real eye opener. It is No Wonder that our President Obama refused to meet with Netanyahu:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/24/israels-netanyahu-and-the-jewish-neocons-in-america-vow-revenge/

It also explains some things about Romney and his backers, including Netanyahu....

hey Michael, careful Mickey might come in with his mancrush and talk about your Goatee. God forbid any lefty discusses Obama's accomplishments.

I try not to get too personal on here, but Rick your comment is just idiotic. Elliot: I guess if he could draw $50,000 a plate and spout off about 47% of the people being victims, he would have the foreign affairs issues all wrapped up, right? You too sir have won the blathering idiotic award. If you do not have anything constructive to say for or against the president, then shut up. You make yourselves look really bad, but I guess you both might be too idiotic to see that, right?

Caesar Augustus-

hey Michael, careful Mickey might come in with his mancrush and talk about your Goatee. God forbid any lefty discusses Obama's accomplishments

It's all good. That happens when FR allows the uneducated to have an account.

Mark Twain - "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

Sailcat - okay I missed the airliners and roll down windows fiasco. Where do I find that? It's sooooo Mitt Romney! Maybe we should let him try it?

OMG this guy is beyond stupid - he's totally insane. Clearly a simple understanding of atmospheric pressure is beyond his grasp! And, THIS is the person the Republicans chose to run for President????

Michael - "That happens when FR allows the uneducated to have an account." Yes but you ARE allowed to have one so we've all had to come to terms with that. Now behave or give Mommy's computer back to her!

Obama/Biden 2012

The news is full of Mitt's imbecilic comments on airliner windows, Seeking:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-beverly-hills-fundraiser-20120922,0,2317962.story

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/mitt-romney/9564529/Mitt-Romney-why-dont-aeroplane-windows-open.html

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/09/24/899441/romney-plane-windows/

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/09/romney-wonders-why-airplane-windows-dont-open.html

Michael - "That happens when FR allows the uneducated to have an account." Yes but you ARE allowed to have one so we've all had to come to terms with that. Now behave or give Mommy's computer back to her!

enter the smartest person EVAH!

I understand Michael.

[God forbid any lefty discusses Obama's accomplishments.]

Aww...Pizza Boy still doesn't get it. Seems being in a forum that touts the president's accomplishments on a daily basis, he still can't put two and two together and figure out what those accomplishments are.

But hey, he may tell you...with enough prodding...just why he supports Ryan/Romney...maybe it's the fact that Romney doesn't know why airplane windows don't open?

Yeah, that must be it. Ryan/Romney is George Bush Part Deux, and Little Seizure is all a-tingle over it.

Oh, and taxman, Goatee Mikey is a "20 year union member"...ahh those "eeeeevil unions".

Oh, he's also an "electrical engineer"...so he says.

So bash Romney when he is not the subject of this article...

The simple facts are..

The President seems to cling tightly to the whole angry about a movie trailer scenario even though his own administration has claimed it to be a terrorist act.

The President is in a fog about the status of Egypt are they friend or foe..well some faction of Egypt attacked our embassy so the answer should be crystal clear...FOE

The President lost sight of 9/11 because he conveniently did not protect Embassy staff in Middle East and North African Nations.

The President actually perpetuated the upheaval of governments leading to a destabilization of countries: Egypt, Libya, Syria,etc...

The President obviously offers contempt to all if he believes that attacks on US Embassies were over an obscure, poorly produced, Internet film trailer.

Perhaps it isn't the rest of the world that is ignorant and shallow rather this administration headed by a President who is not capable of running a campaign and a country simultaneously.

Headline said,

"Obama denounces violence in Middle East, calls for tolerance and democracy"

Obama forgot appeasement!!

Let's turn the page on this failed presidency...

The middle class and your children/grandchildren can't afford 4 more...

16 TRILLION and counting...tick tick tick

Seems being in a forum that touts the president's accomplishments on a daily basis, he still can't put two and two together and figure out what those accomplishments are.

Ah so Mickey you seem to know more then even him LOL. Ouch that sucks you can't even name them. So tell me why Big O doesnt seal the deal? I didnt think so

Ryan/Romney is George Bush Part Deux

try part Trois my silly little friend. If you think Obama is different than i have ocean front property in Yuma to sell ya. Did you research your canidate in 08? how bout now? Mickey, you cast stones from a glass house and in the end nothing more than a partisan Obama cultist. Nice golden age huh Mickey. Nah just default to it's bushes, GOP, 1%ers fault, chinchilla's, furby's or whatever silly and inane excuse you have. Hey you dont like your lot in life, change it.

Mickey, nothing wrong with being a laundry sorter. Honorable profession

Poor cowardly, weak Little Seizure can't seem to pull the trigger on the Ryan/Romney ticket...I understand...so sheltered never to have stuck up for anything in your life.

Oh, and way to go stealing the "lot in life" line...but it's ok, I don't mind. You simply can't come up with anything that bright on your own, right "caesar"?

Yep, you know I'm right.

So, you staying home Election Day, Pizza Boy? Or you going to write in Paul and pull a "Perot"...yeah, you're so used to pulling things, right taxman?

Sure you are.

Besides being a coward and weak, you are also a fraud. An insignificant troll who can't seem to stick up for his principles. Why is that? Mommy wouldn't let you go to Burning Man?

But don't be sad little man, knowing there are those of us that have pity on you and feel sorry for you. So weak and insignificant that you can't stick up for your candidate....that's just oh so sad.

You may put me back on ignore now (wink wink)

Too early for another Nobel?

Poor cowardly, weak Little Seizure can't seem to pull the trigger on the Ryan/Romney ticket...I understand...so sheltered never to have stuck up for anything in your life.

right Mickey. Like that Obummer the Magnificient. Im sorry you were kicked from the Children of God cult.

yeah, you're so used to pulling things, right taxman?

i seem to pull your strings just fine.

So weak and insignificant that you can't stick up for your candidate....that's just oh so sad.

My canidate as you say doenst need to defend his 'crappy' record. Hows yours again? Running on it? putting the nail in the coffin? To hear you talk, like its over. Oh well maybe in N. Korea or Iran it would be.

Hey Mickey. OH BAH MUH baahhhhaaaa

LOL

I think Obama hit the nail on the head today, with that speach. Too bad he doesn't spend more time on the presidency, we might not be in such a friggin mess like we are!

[Hey Mickey. OH BAH MUH baahhhhaaaa]

So in other words, you're bailing on the "debate", huh Little Seizure?

Got your ass-sack with you?

Ahhh, such a little quitter you are...along with being a weak coward.

PIZZA! PIZZA!

sailcat - thanks for the links. Busy two days. When I get a few minutes I post. Haven't had time to look for many specific articles. But, this was vintage Romney. OMG - please just make him go away!

Obama/Biden 2012

For those living in "Oceania" (tea party) Obama just said "Alahu Akbar"!

So in other words, you're bailing on the "debate", huh Little Seizure?

its those killa debate skillz

Got your ass-sack with you?

sounds like your problem not mine

Ahhh, such a little quitter you are...along with being a weak coward

sure Conan.

Hey Kaiser, I'll pick up where whoever left off, let's rumble.

Listening to the President today just explained why Willard would never, could never be President!!! If he can’t even get his fellow Republicans to unite behind him how can he unite other countries? Personally, the guy is a moron and if it’s so hard to run for office than quit!!!

Side note: I will pay to have his jet retrofitted with windows that roll down if he promises to roll them down in flight at 600 MPH and at 40,000 ft! and this guy is the smartest one that the Republicans had to offer? LOL

Mr. Obama continues to live in a FANTASY LAND completely ignorant of International and domestic issues.

Oh, that's right.....he IGNORES all the "NOISE" and makes decisions probably based on Valerie Jarrett. Wow, who is REALLY WEARING THE PANTS in the West Wing ? Seems Mrs. Obama would be a bit upset by now, since she didn't like the thoughts of Oprah sitting by Mr. Obama and whispering in his ear.

There will NEVER be PEACE in the Middle East because of the different factions bucking for POWER.

The American people will rejoice when Mr. Hussein Obama is thrown out of office.

Hey Kaiser, I'll pick up where whoever left off, let's rumble.

wow. You can have Mickey. its his issues. as for internet toughness. LOL @ U

No, The American people rejoiced when W left office. So did the world for that matter. The disaster for America was letting the Republicans essentially have their way for a majority of the last thirty years. They sold our democracy to the highest bidder. We've seen that the right wing foreign policy has been about making covert deals with Iran, strengthening Al Qaeda, which emerged from the US backed Mujahedin in Afghanistan, supporting Saddam Hussein before we invaded Iraq based on lies and more lies. Trashing the Geneva Convention and have Bolton as ambassador to the UN, Gitmo, renditions, Abu Ghraib, allowing Bin Laden ten years of breathing after 9/11, and now the drum beat to invade Iran. Nearly a decade of war has trashed our economy, our reputation, and therefore the cooperation we've received from our Allies (old Europe) which Republicans have insulted. Ritt Mormoney promises to double down on more failed policy, foreign and domestic.

Pat in SoCal...please speak for yourself. Not everyone rejoiced when Bush left office. I'm certain some did but certainly not all and not every Country in the world rejoiced...for instance Poland knew they were sunk when Obama did not continue the US commitment to the weapons shield. South Korea was really rather stumped when Obama allowed Kim Jong Il and North Korea to rattle their sabre with nuclear missile tests. Great Britain knew in pretty short order that America has lost a president with resolve. Fortunately, France and Germany were able to step up in our place for Solid Western leadership. Then there was Americans assault on any community with off shore banks..gosh Justice jumped right on that but didn't release names of tax absconders because they realized many of their supporters made up the bulk. Canada certainly has no rejoiced over Obama and his rejection of the oil pipeline. Mexico may have a deep appreciation for Obama notable in the increase of human trafficking into the United States and the increase in gangland grow houses rented in upper income communities. Seems that Saudi, Jordan, Kuwait, Israel, the UAE and pretty much every other ME jurisdiction and the major players in Northern Africa has distanced themselves from Obama because he is nothing more than a piss poor leader that no one can depend on.

As for groups in the United States..He pretty much started office with a visible contempt for our own supreme court, he had no intention of working with Republicans, Independents or even moderates in his own party. He struck out against States that did not support him in his election. Rewarding friends and punishing those he even to this day considers the enemy.

Not too many people in Texas or Louisiana rejoiced when the President displaced rig workers and well there are many other states who were dependent on oil leases to keep many of their citizens employed. Then he was particularly hostile to some states using the Justice Department as a pit bull and yet they obviously don't know what they are doing...guns anyone?

The only thing more empty than Obama's suit is that Nobel piece prize he won for being the first African American President.

good God, I hate to wish my life away but I will be so glad when the election is over and these tea bagging, corporate shills go back to doing what they do best. Whining, accusing, lying and hating rooted in racism. Oh wait... that's what they do constantly, every single day. Oops... for a moment there, I felt like a "conservative"... I hope it's just a momentary lapse of reason though.

He mentioned the video about 10 times and was back to blaming it again. The day of the attack he said terrorism. Then they made a concerted effort to blame a video that was not put out on 9/11, but months earlier. Then Carney and the gang said it was definitely terrorism, supported by rueters video. Everbody now knows it wasn't a protest but a deliberate attack. Now at the U.N. he is back blaming the video again. This constant position change is almost disturbing. Especially when 99% of the people following this know there was deliberate planning with mortars and RPG's. This guy is unbelievable.

Thank god we finally have a real President, If bush was still POTUS he would of said I really dont care where the people who killed our ambassador are, and what POTUS Obama said is you who killed our ambassador will soon meet Death

There is a matter of credibility. For example the President very emphatically promised that GITMO would be closed within one year of his becoming President. He said that he had the power to close it and it will be closed. It is still open.

The President said that the White House dog will be a mutt, "like me" , from a shelter yet the dog they got is a pure bread that has never set foot in a shelter. The President is suppose to be the most powerful man in the free world. If he cannot keep his word on something as trivial as the White House dog then one would think that he may not keep his word on anything else. The President is in the habit of saying things that sound good at the time but are really just bs.

And the president urged listeners to put aside “political debates” and focus not on what divides the world but unites it.

??? This is from the guy who has invested each and every day as the USA president playing the conquer and divide game with the American people. Obummer...

IndependentinSD:

If bush was still POTUS he would of said I really dont care where the people who killed our ambassador are

G W Bush never allowed that to happen. He never put his diplomats in harm's way.

and what POTUS Obama said is you who killed our ambassador will soon meet Death

Is President B H Obama going to invade Libya or will it be an illegal action?

Homer Adams

Homer you are right Bush didnt........ but then again he let 2 planes crash into New York and kill thousands of Americans, and he had over 70 briefings before 9/11

As far as I am concerned Caesar Augustus, elliot-3020456, and Mickey, NY should take your tired third grade discourse somewhere else. You guys want to be crude, rude, and irrelevant, go somewhere else. You want to make a decent point, maybe even one about the article, then post away. Otherwise STFU.

Regarding Obama's speech, he nailed it. The right message for the right audience. The problem is that I don't believe we realize the damage that drones brings to that message. Yes, we "will chase them down"... but reports of the civilian death, the feeling of being violated as nations that they cause, and the stories of innocent civilian pure terror from the sound of drones is disturbing. THAT is what they will remember, not the speech.

Then we have Romney's lame statement that we should "control" and "shape" world events instead of letting them happen. Okay, big boy, just how might THAT happen? It's as though he wants the world we knew 50 years ago when we graciously placed despots wherever we felt they were needed... or just a decade ago when we went to war over trumped up charges.

Ahhh, those were the days, weren't they? (no, they weren't)

LMarkT....I disagree. Obama didn't say anything that was believable and the message was on the late side. Romney has the right approach with "controlling" and "shaping" world events based on strong leadership. We have been the world leaders for the past seventy years and to have taken a back seat, as we have for the past three and a half years, is altering the effectiveness of our nation as a world leader. The basis of Romney's approach as a lead from the front instead of leading from behind premise is what will afford us that standing again.

When it comes to leadership, even in your day to day interactions, who are you going to trust and see as a strong figure..someone who is standing up in plain sight who is willing to have a conversation that fits a minimum of two participants or are you going to trust the guy sneaking up behind saying what feels fits the situation and then doing something entirely different.

I agree with your estimation of the Drone attacks...That tactic is clearly the lead from behind premise as is our interference in Libya and with Egypt as well. We dabbled behind the scenes in sneaks attacks. To be clear that is what al Queda does...that is what the Muslim Brotherhood does, that is what the Palestinians do and certainly a huge hallmark of Iran. A strong America does not do that. A strong America approaches diplomacy with some room to negotiate but also will draw a line in the sand and leave the military option open in situations like we are facing in the ME. A strong American can be honest about out intentions without saying one thing and doing another. For instance talking to our enemies and then instead of talking we bomb. Or instead of identifying our ally among the enemy we invade a nation for a political assassination.

What I have found very discouraging in Obamas lead from behind approach is that his personal world view should have been an asset to his administration and to America but instead of taking the higher road and leading he has managed to take the low road and Govern our Nation but the same tactic and the same misrepresentation that the Islamists use.

We are better than that...we do not need to stoop to their level and increase the inherent suspicion that is so prevalent in the Islamists approach to western nations. It is time that we as America do control the message and that we do stand up and lead and we regain a bit of self-respect and regard from our peer nations and the whole third world.

Good God...even Russsia is casting us aside when it comes to public health support...

Funny how Obama denounces violence in the Middle East and calls for tolerance, while threatening Iran with war and still waging wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Some Nobel peace award laureate...

TX Mom,

It would appear we live in opposite mirrored universes. But really, France as stand-in western world leaders (I do believe they are among the leaders)? Do you want freedom fries with that? I for one am glad the ME despots are feeling the lack of support. Are you a 53%er, I am and yet I'm still voting for O and Joe in 12.

elliot-3020456

Time for the amateur to go home.

This guy spends more time at $28,000 a plate fund raisers than dealing with foreign affairs.

As usual Elliot...you do a great job of providing comedy relief. Then we have Romney's $50,000 a plate fund raiser where he pisses off 47% of the American People. And you have to love his foray into foreign policy like his trip to London where he managed to piss off our closest ally...just freaking amazing.

A strong America does not do that. A strong America approaches diplomacy with some room to negotiate but also will draw a line in the sand and leave the military option open in situations like we are facing in the ME.

So, TxMom...we should what? Invade another sovereign nation to prove you ain't gonna take no sh!t from no raghead? "Bring 'em on?" "Mission Accomplished" "Let's fight 'em over there so we don't have to fight 'em over here"?

Who exactly are you going to send to war for the sake of your "Pax Americana"? The same troops who have already done 5 or 6 deployments? How much do our troops need to bleed for you? How many have to die? When will people like you let the adults in the room handle diplomacy?

Pat in SOCal

TX Mom,

It would appear we live in opposite mirrored universes.

Very possibly we do because even our Dems in Texas are not as far left as you folk in So Cal. I'll take tornado's and hurricaines to earth quakes any day.

But really, France as stand-in western world leaders (I do believe they are among the leaders)? Do you want freedom fries with that?

Yes, France under Sarkozy was standing up to be counted in world issues while, once elected Obama seemed to do nothing more than slap our friends. Sarkozy and Merkel had a strong had in keeping the EU afloat financially. When it has come to issues of Iran after the Bush admin left it was Cameron, Sarkozy and Mercel who held their ground on sanctions and spoke boldly. We will see what François Hollande has to offer France, the EU and the World. Perhaps he will not be as stalward as Sarkozy. Perhaps he will allow the EU to fail.

I for one am glad the ME despots are feeling the lack of support. Personally I love France and was proud to see how they stood for the West when Obama was appologizing not only for America but all Western Nations.

Are you a 53%er, I am and yet I'm still voting for O and Joe in 12.

Yes...something like that and I am truly wishing that O & Joe will be one and done in 2012.

Because I would like to see that 53% grow to a point where economics will allow more of the 47% to be financially solid that they can live comfortably and still pay into the IRS system. The stats we don't see are that current rate of non taxpayer is currently at 47% v 53% for income earned in 2009 that ratio was 40% v 60%. in 2008 that was 36% nonpayer.

http://taxfoundation.org/article/record-numbers-people-paying-no-income-tax-over-50-million-nonpayers-include-families-making-over

This President and his cronies are pusing our middle class farther and farther down the ladder of success to the standard of working class poor.

People shouldn't feel as if they win because they are to poor to pay into our tax system. There is a particular responsibility to carry a portion of the National tax burden. If we continue this trend and we get to the point where 47% are paying in and 53% are paying nothing then we as a Nation will have little need to continue the Union.

Wow ol Doc...sarcastic racism, aren't you special. To be clear there are several Arab and Muslim Countries that we do, or have in the past, shares healthy relationships.

I take it that you hold a typical progressive view that invading Pakistan (a nuclear nation no less) and interference into Egypt, Libya and Syria as Obama has done, rather poorly at that, is not a call for war heading in our direction? So what about the blood shed in Libya and the lives lost because we, Obama, destabilized their country...do you not hold Obama responsible for those lives not to mention the Libyan lives lost during the Arab Spring and those who will continue to die in their time as a destabilized nation? Openly, Obama supported the ousting of Mubarak in Egypt, one serious damn smack at a friend to make all of our other friends wonder who we are anymore. Are the Egyptians better off now that their country has been handed over to the Muslim Brotherhood with the support of "America", that is not going to progress well and go figure our own President does not even know if they are an ally or enemy. Good thing Hillary is at the helm dealing with Foreign Affairs as Morsi has such a contemptible perspective of Women in power. We will see a mass exodus of the educated Egyptians as we did back in the 1970's as the Christan's become persecuted again. Now for Syria, so are you actually entertained by watching Arab Nations burn one by one because that is what is happening under Obama. You know Bush will stand up and take responsibility for Iraq all day long, even though it was the right thing to do. Afghanistan has been unstable for so long they have no clue what stable would actually be. There you go one Country for Bush and at least four that we know of for Obama. Are you totally content on the loss of lives via drone attack as long as American Soldiers are not on the firing line? If war becomes as sterile as "Call to Duty2" where a joy stick is all that is needed to end lives then American should absolutely feel the same shame as we did from dropping the bomb on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Yes Obama can.... bring us to that level of shame again.

more empty rethoric. keep quoting Ghandi while si vis pacem para bellum. Both sides of his mouth

Hey Job1, did you take the pledge of allegiance to Obama? What a moron you are

its one thing to support the president, a lot of the FR liberal posters view Obama as their King. Most of the far left liberal FR posters have never uttered a word against Obama. In their eyes, he's the most perfect human being. Does no wrong and has a virtual midas touch. A lot of people thought that David Koresh was like that too.

Read the question and the answer and not Romney/Rove/FOX's deconstruction/interpretation. The overall process since at least 1967 has been messy. Bellicosity doesn't/hasn't/won't get us anywhere. It's really not our dispute. That's why Reagan simply withdrew after 200 plus Marines were killed in Beirut - another "bump in the road."

Ah Oh - there goes President Obama sounding all presidential like. Let's put on the popcorn and relish the sound of the RWNJs kernel heads popping like Jiffy-Pop, complete with tinfoil wrapping.

"ragheads"? Really, smitty, you want to present yourself as someone that thinks that way?

But Pat, progress, I mean communism has never worked. Why do you favor communism in America? hugs, wink-wink. hehehehehehehehe

Respecting people and their culture/religion is most important. There will always be dissidents/fanatics here and there. What works in your land might not in another land. Where we defer, all should embrace TALK and not WAR.

Just Respect.

I never pay any attention to these low information republican cult people. They have proven time after time that they live in this republican tea bag bubble, in which facts can't get in.

One thing is for sure, Willard Romney will never ever be elected President and Little Eddie will never be elected Vice President, and you tea bag people know this.

Obama said he would change the way Washington worked, and he failed. Now Obama proclaims the need for diplomacy in the Middle East, just more cheap rhetoric in an effort to pander for votes. Obama hasn't been able to solve anything much less the violence and hatred of Islam. Many before him have believed in diplomacy to solve the Middle East issues, and they failed. All diplomacy will do is buy Iran more time to develop the bomb, which is what Obama wants to happen.

One thing is for sure, Willard Romney will never ever be elected President and Little Eddie will never be elected Vice President, and you tea bag people know this.

I concur.

Many before him have believed in diplomacy to solve the Middle East issues, and they failed. All diplomacy will do is buy Iran more time to develop the bomb, which is what Obama wants to happen

Rick-3416939- There you go, deranged fellow.

Job1

I never pay any attention to these low information republican cult people. They have proven time after time that they live in this republican tea bag bubble, in which facts can't get in.

Republican cult? How obtuse if you dont think your OH BAH MUH chanting isn't cult like in itself.

Tell me liberal elite what makes you so smart again? Degrees, divine wisdom, cult following?

Now Obama proclaims the need for diplomacy in the Middle East, just more cheap rhetoric in an effort to pander for votes.

Yes, I'm sure he was hoping to get lots of Libyans and Egyptians and Tunisians to vote for him.

Obama hasn't been able to solve anything much less the violence and hatred of Islam.

When you say "hatred of Islam", would that be your hatred of Islam or what you see as Islam's hatred of others?

(Maybe it's both?)

@Da Noid

All those Syrians are going to use voter fraud to vote Obama.

Wow Obama, since you denounced the violence in the Middle East I am sure that will work out, just fine! How is it working out so far?

Liberals crack me up. They speculate about Mitt Romney being president saying he will do this or he will do that, but the most important thing they wont do is take a LONG look at what is currently happening with our president.

You seldomly hear of Liberals here talk about all the good Obama has done but instead focus on being negative towards Romney. Liberals why wont you talk about ALL the many failed promises from Obama? I understand sometimes politcians make promises and they dont work out, but Obama has MANY failed promises, doesnt that mean anything to the liberals?

Maybe if Obama had cut the debt in half as he promised, then our credit wouldnt of been downgraded not once, but twice! But libs will still blame that on cogress and not take into consideration about Obamas promise!

This website weeks ago has articles praising Obama's foreign policy, but now it is just crickets! Why is Hiliary doing all the presidential work lately? Liberals above say Obama is has made the world like us more...REALLY?

What matters in the end is that Obama talked to me, to the rest of us, not to either the dysfunctional leaders or to the talking heads ... change comes from the outside.

Yes, I'm sure he was hoping to get lots of Libyans and Egyptians and Tunisians to vote for him.

you've been hangin with Xabre too much. Nah pandering for votes here to seem like he's putting his foot down. Why now? Convience i suppose. Much like the economy which he says he'll attempt to focus on now. Forgive me that i dont believe him. It was kind of an important issue 4 years ago.

BCWC, with your elitism, keep flying close to the sun you're gonna come crashing down

James - apparently you don't realize the position of Secretary of State and what it entails. Secretary of State Clinton's job is to just what she is doing. The fact that you don't know this is your problem - not President Obama's.

Romney made an utter fool of himself with our ALLIES - yet you want him to deal with our enemies. Clearly you have no concept of world affairs - much like Romney/Ryan!

Obama/Biden 2012

Tell me liberal elite what makes you so smart again? Degrees, divine wisdom, cult following?

We are smarter and not Crazy like the high jacked right wing. FACTS guide us.

James, on the Credit Rating Downgrades, the Ratings Agencies THEMSELVES, in their report of why they did the downgrades, put the blame squarely on the Repubs in Congress, saying that the President had Tried to work with them, but the brinksmanship games played by the Republicans was why they could not, in good faith, keep the ratings at the previous high level.

So, your blaming President Obama is completely false, as you already well know!

B.Honest....

I will say it again.....If Obama had kept his promise of cutting the national debt in half by the end of the first term do you think our credit rating would of been dropped either time? You know the answer to that! The answer is NO! Sorry, but Obama has not only NOT cut the deficit at ALL but has increased spending.

Seeking Sanity.....
Silly LIBERAL! :) I know what the secratary of states, job is and entitles! So I guess being the president means running out on the show the View, then? So according to your knowledge above, no president has done any of the meetings with world leaders and its only the sec. of state?

James, Had the Repubs in the Senate not fake filibustered over 400 bills then this nation would be much farther along in working down that debt, heck, just removing the tax breaks, which President Obama tried, would have gone a long ways towards this. Again, it is NOT President Obama's fault, spending is done in the House of Reps and Senate. Further, over the 3.5 years, only just less than $1T is what Pres. Obama has spent....the rest is carryover from Bush II's term that the Repubs have blocked him from ending.

Look to yer own party for the deficit and National Debt, because they have NOT let it be addressed so the unlearned/uninformed, like yourself, can use as a weapon against Pres. Obama.

However, the problem lies in the fact that The People of America have been watching, and MOST Americans KNOW that it is NOT President Obama's fault, that he has tried to address the problems and have been kept from being able to do so by the Repub Obstruction Machine, the "Just Say No To ANYTHING That Might Help The Economy, Deficit or Debt Because It Would Help 'That Black Man in OUR White House'."

With the internet and rapid communications we have access to the FACTS, and right now MOST Americans are being turned off tot he Repub Party because they can SEE all the lies, they can fact check them themselves, and when they see that nearly all of President Obama's statements have been true and nearly ALL of Romney/Ryan's statements have been either total lies, fabrications, taken out of context statements or when they do tell the truth we find that they are writing off nearly half of all Americans....well, it is just not a pretty picture fer the Repub party in general, most especially for R&R!

This is why President Obama leads by so very much in the polls right now, even in so called Red States.

Go peddle your lies on the Fox site, I am sure that you will get folks agreeing with you and your ego will feel Sooo much better!

Caesar Augustus-

Yes, I'm sure he was hoping to get lots of Libyans and Egyptians and Tunisians to vote for him.

BCWC, with your elitism, keep flying close to the sun you're gonna come crashing down

I am starting to think that BS looks good on you Kaiser. If Romney had given that speech you would be standing in the middle of a major RWNJ circle jerk, and you know it. You are intellectually empty. Why don't you go back in time ... those days when you posted twice a year?

Job1

I never pay any attention to these low information republican cult people. They have proven time after time that they live in this republican tea bag bubble, in which facts can't get in.

Fools like this really make me laugh..

I never pay any attention to these low information Democrat cult people. They have proven time after time that they live in this Democrat Liberal bubble, in which facts can't get in.

It goes both ways. IF IT does not agree with your personal political views, its a lie. Most of yall ( from both sides of the isle ) are so brainwashed by your respective news groups and party affiliations, you wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. You listen to SPEECHES designed to make you think positive or negative about something and take it for gospel.

People need to wake the hell up.. Cause neither Obama OR Romney are good for this country.

You are intellectually empty. Why don't you go back in time

can you say that without looking down your nose. Youre the myth lover Icarus.

BS looks good on you Kaiser

you know i cant take that crown from you. you can put me back on ignore. soon you'll have nothing but your 'smart snob friends' to hang with.

Oooohhhhh! The Ay-rabs have been denounced! Is that clicking sound we hear the Ay-rabs shaking in their boots or is it the crickets in the silence? Did any of you liberals even bother to listen to his speech and hear the deafening silence from the UN delegates?????

Oblameo only thinks he's scaring people with his high-flown rhetoric and bombastic speaking style. The we-hate-America riots are still going on in the Muslim part of the world, Spainards are rioting over the combination of tax increases and spending cuts that will be voted on tomorrow, and where is our learless feader? He's busy taping an interview on his impending retirement on The View. Maybe he needs to ask the ladies for advice on international affairs. He certainly doesn't pay attention to his experts.

As far as palming off meetings with Middle East leaders on Hilary, do you really believe a Muslim is going to listen to a woman any more than they listen to the messiah? You really need to do some research on how Muslims treat their women in that part of the world. Or have you missed all the tv news footage on women covered from tip to toe in heavy blankets?

Libbies, take a chill pill, do some research, and wake up before the United States is just another third world country. Coming soon to a mosque near you!

[Why don't you go back in time ... those days when you posted twice a year?]

Little Seizure was too busy at the time being someone else, and it's quite hard juggling more than one username....everything's gotta look juuuuuuust right...ain't that right "caesar"?

Sure it is... (wink wink)

B. Honest....

Obama was a senator and had full understanding of our budget. Obama has always said the war should of been focused in Afghanistan. Congress voted to allow miliatry force in Iraq/Afghan. So with all of that said, "Why did Obama promise to cut the debt in half"? Just answer the question and like your name...B.Honest! :)

You must work for the Obama administration because you are very good at pointing the blame to someone else! Never Obama's fault, and he never takes any accountablility!

A good leader has the ability to bring people together. Regean and Bill Clinton worked very well with the other party to get things done. Obama hasn't been able to lead anyone.

Since you take it personal (Any negativity towards Obama) I will say this. I am sure Obama is a nice guy. I am sure he is a good father to his girls, BUT he is not a good president.

Oh Mickey defaulted to re-reg accusation. OH HOW PREDICTABLE. ah well, I'd say prove it but its Mickey. The tough guy/gal intimidator from NOO YAWK. HAHAHA. Member Mickey be respectful. I know you can.

Mickey, Laundry sorting is an honorable profession. be proud my man

Neither Reagan Nor Clinton had and entire party walking lockstep against them to the degree that President Obama has had. You so conveniently leave that part out...but Americans see it, so what you try to say with your revisionist fantasy history is totally meaningless....and the other readers here know that!

America and the World can plainly see that President Obama is a MUCH better President than Bush II...oh, sorry..He Who Must Not Be Named Lest It Bring His Shame Down On The GOP!

How much are they paying you per post there James?? Must suck to work for less than minimum wage!

FACTS guide us

JOB1 telling funnies again.

B. Honest....

You couldnt even answser a simple question! tsk tsk tsk.

I will just accept your silence or lack of an answer to be, yes you know Obama failed with cutting the national debt in half. It wouldnt of been hard for you to just say that he failed. Well come Jan 2013, it will be an official failed promise.

Funny how I dont remember Regean or Bill Clinton whining about working together across the aisle! They did what it took to get things done. Obama has failed and I dont know why you take it to heart! Are you related to Obama or something?

Technically I am at work and from time to time jump back here to read the latest liberal gossip! I dont even know what minimum wage currently is and havent made minimum wage since I was back in high school. Sorry to dissapoint your funny remarks above, but you were wrong.

When you are ready to discuss Obama's failed promises and lack of leadership please let the Vine know.

[Oh Mickey defaulted to re-reg accusation.]

Funny, seems along with your "killa debating skillz" you have a reading comprehension issue. I said nothing about "re-regging"...but having multiple accounts is another thing, now isn't it Pizza Boy.

PIZZA PIZZA!

Actually James, I answered your question, it is not President Obama's failure, but the failure of the Repubs in Congress. Sorry that you do not like the answer, but that is your own problem and since all you can do is ad hominem attacks to distract from the actual conversation, you are not worth responding to any further.

Have a great day!

but having multiple accounts is another thing, now isn't it Pizza Boy.

excuse me. You never said multiple accounts in the present and current or past. Not like i havent heard either accusation before. its almost like me calling you a girl right Mickey? How are those New York style Pizzas speaking of which. I do like pizza.

good God, I hate to wish my life away but I will be so glad when the election is over and these tea bagging, corporate shills go back to doing what they do best. Whining, accusing, lying and hating rooted in racism. Oh wait... that's what they do constantly, every single day. Oops... for a moment there, I felt like a "conservative"... I hope it's just a momentary lapse of reason though.

T0 B. Honest - I was curious about the credit downgrade being the Republican's fault so I looked it up all the way to the S&P. I couldn't find that but did find this: (Standard and Poor Report)

The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011

Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any time soon.

Just wondering where the Republicans were cited as being at fault?

The Republican foreign policy position for crticizing Obama's Arab Spring policy is a "retarded" one a that. It (GOP policy) infers we must threaten military action against any country who is not an Ally nor enemy to the US during time of conflict which is NOT activated by that Government, itself. Even in the case of rogue mercernaries within a Territory of that Government who is neither an Ally or Enemy of the U.S. If we were to engage in such a GOP policy where the US invaded or solved such conflicts with U.S. unilateral military action. We would spend unecessary money by "shooting" and "aiming" later, so to speak.

Libyia requires no military action by the US unless further attacks on US property within Libiya were initiated, and met with immediate US retalliatory responses on Terrorist positions during such a conflict. Otherwise, there is nothing to attack, unless the whereabouts of the "guilty" who attacked the Embassy are determined. If a ragtag team of 6 Terrorists attack and disband after such an attack exiting in 6 different directions; What territory is there to attack???? Mitt Romney is stupid about these details.......

Like anybody cares what Obama says! He has been "saying" since he became president, and accomplished nothing constructive.

Rick-3416939

Many before him have believed in diplomacy to solve the Middle East issues, and they failed. All diplomacy will do is buy Iran more time to develop the bomb, which is what Obama wants to happen.

So Rick, what's your solution?

1. Do we go to war with Iran using the same troops we've already deployed 5-6 times or reinstate the draft?

2. Do we just nuke 'em till they're flat black and crispy and dare the world to do something about it?

3. Do we borrow more money from China to finance another 2 or 3 wars?

What would you like to do Rick? Or do you just want to sound tough while the truth is you, like most conservatives are scarred as hell of anyone different than yourself. Want a eureka moment? ...google "conservative brain".

Kathy, I too had to do some more searching, but found it. If you look at:

http://www.standardandpoors.com/ratings/articles/en/us/?assetID=1245316529563

And look down at Para 13 where it says:

"

Compared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now
assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012,
remain in place. We have changed our assumption on this because the majority
of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise
revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act."

Yes amy/feisty, he is the second coming.

Oh yes Obama is so good at reading speeches someone else writes.

Like Madonna said, "Support the black muslim in the white house"

Don't forget to walk over the hot coals for him too Amy......

It is frightening so many people fail to recognize he is just a man not a god.

wow, the obama freaks are sounding more and more like brainwashed north koreans crying over their dear leader

Amy - wow! The idiot base of the far right is out today - big time! Can you smell the desperation in their posts? It shows they know they have no candidate and they're trying to deflect the failure of the Republican party onto President Obama.

I guess when Romney is your candidate - it's all you have!

Obama/Biden 2012

smitty1118

Perhaps you hadn't heard the news, that ordinary Libyans reacted to the assasination of our ambassador in their country, by attacking the militias in their midst. They literally attacked those bases where extremists were located and destroyed them. Maybe FOX hasn't reported it yet, because it doesn't serve to keep the myth of the barbaric muslim alive.

The idiot base of the far right is out today

Seeking prove to me you're as smart as you claim you are.

OH BAH MUH

Keckieboy,

I doubt if anyone profound enough to use a Ghandi quote would be crying for a North Korean leader.

[Seeking prove to me you're as smart as you claim you are.]

That is just so precious...just like Spanky...picks on the ladies when they have nothing else to offer.

Little Seizure, they have medication for Low-T, you know.

PIZZA! PIZZA!

picks on the ladies when they have nothing else to offer.

chivalrous knight appears. Hey Prince Valiant, I hear you are lady yourself? anyways tell that to the 'lady' that seems to call everyone that doesnt Pump Obama stupid. Yeah real lady like, you may like truckers but not i. Im not here to judge Mickey. just disagree with you and your 'benevolent' friends.

Amy, It is getting towards the end of the month so the Paid Shills from the right wing corprat disinfo mills are hittin the keyboards so as to have a check that actually is close to what they would make on minimum wage.

[Hey Prince Valiant, I hear you are lady yourself?]

Yeah, I hand your ass to you on a daily basis and I'm a woman...you might not want to telegraph that too much...you'll lose your standing with your BFF's. Next you'll be calling me gay, right?

Just like Spanky, WhiteCollarAuto, and your newest BFF Michael1969, when you're losing an argument, or can't support your argument with facts, you bail out and run with the "I hear you're a lady" or "you're gay". No worries, you lost the battle waaaay before that, Little Seizure.

[Im not here to judge Mickey.]

Sure you're not...

[anyways tell that to the 'lady' that seems to call everyone that doesnt Pump Obama stupid.]

WAH! you little crybaby....I hadn't figured you for a whiner, but it fits.

[just disagree with you and your 'benevolent' friends.]

What you're doing isn't disagreeing...you don't like the fact that people don't bow to your biased opinions on politics, so you become an @!$%#.

Now, why are you voting Ryan/Romnay again?

What you're doing isn't disagreeing...you don't like the fact that people don't bow to your biased opinions on politics, so you become an @!$%#.

oh thats it...HAHAHA what a joke. No wonder you voted O.

No worries, you lost the battle waaaay before that, Little Seizure.

Im sure I did Mickey, of course in your world Pixies and unicorns exist.

WAH! you little crybaby....I hadn't figured you for a whiner, but it fits.

nah crying. im not the one that came to defense of another that only has a default of your stupid for not agreeing. and you say I dont like the fact.... Please, define fact then get back to me. Nah Mickey you're a partisan hack. Sorry dude you own it.

Next you'll be calling me gay, right?

who's whining. I can care less if you are a lady or gay...

I hand your ass to you on a daily basis and I'm a woman

say it 10 more times and you might believe but really by what measure are you winning again? 20 of your 'friends vote you up or agree? Really, on a board that leans heavy left? Mickey get your head out of the clouds.

Mickey your tiny world must be horrid. Look I dont think im better than you. I dont care, you, you're all worked up not me. you dont have to believe me. Gee and you think it would really matter if i told why I'd vote for Romney. Im sure you would care and be so tolerant and open. Look Mickey you want a kosher world with nothing but Obama cheer 24/7, you have the ignore feature. I know you like to come hang with me so I know you wont. You have to be the freedom fighter and hand my azz to me LOL.

Now, why are you voting Ryan/Romnay again?

if you show me yours, i'll show you mine.

Mickey - CA has his head handed to him daily yet he keeps asking for more. There's a term for guys like that, right?

Obama/Biden 2012

Hey CA - Love is blind my friend, so don't beat up too much on these libby's! They are soo in love with BHO that they can't see anything beyond the glow surrounding his head. I bet if you started a kidney donation program for BHO every one of these would likely give BOTH just to be a part of their CHOSEN ONE.

"Caesar", all that typing and you still haven't said a thing....how oh so very sad. But cowardly weak little trolls such as yourself love that sort of stuff, right taxman?

Sure you do...oh the EYE RUH NEE... ;)

So, why is Ryan/Romney your man?

PIZZA! PIZZA!

Sirie I know, i like to play with my good man Mickey, he does bore after awhile. Wasnt held enough as a child. Fear of abandonment issues (most people ignore him). see the hang up this guy has. then we have seeking approval from its Ivory Tower.

[(most people ignore him).]

Like you did Little Seizure?

Oh...wait...you couldn't even keep that little teeny tiny promise. Fitting for a cowardly weak troll.

So, back to the Ryan/Romney thingie...you gonna spill the beans Pizza Boy?

PIZZA! PIZZA!

He made me proud too Amy. First day he said terrorism. Then they all blamed a months old video. Then with enough intel, including rueters video, it is known to be a terrorist attack with mortars and rpg's. The administration admitted so. Now he is once again back to the video mentioned about 10 times today at the UN.

It's terrorism, wait it's a video, no we have evidence it's really terrorism, no..uh wait... it's the video. How do you think that projects to people around the world? Does that really sound Presidential on a national stage? It's embarrasing.

Obama or any U.S. president denouncing "violence" is like Col. Sanders denouncing fried chicken and those calls for "tolerance" and "democracy" will also strike a hollow note for a lot of people around the globe.

We used massive, horrendous violence invading two countries in the just in the last 10 years alone and historically have been one of the biggest backers of dictators and extremists, including Islamic extremists when it served the interests of U.S. corporations and the rich. Mubarak in Egypt and the precursors to the Taliban and Al Queda in Afghanistan during the 1980's come to mind but there are many others.

Here's more on the subject:

A Black Agenda Radio commentary by Glen Ford

Forces set in motion more than three decades ago by President Jimmy Carter's CIA will force the United States out of much of the Middle East and North Africa. "The West has once again empowered fundamentalist forces that will inevitably turn against Washington, the Greatest Infidel of all." The U.S. cannot possibly control the jihadis it has armed and unleashed upon the world.

The Mother of All Blowbacks is Coming

A Black Agenda Radio commentary by Glen Ford

The United States and its allies have set the stage for the Mother of All Blowbacks: a long period of convulsions in the Muslim and Arab world that will ultimately lead to America's expulsion from much of the region. The reason it is so easy to read the handwriting on the wall, is that we have been watching the scenario unfold for three decades, ever since the last years of the Jimmy Carter administration, when the United States, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan spent billions to create a worldwide Muslim jihadi army and unleashed it on the Soviets and their allies in Afghanistan, plunging that country into endless war.

When these Muslim warriors turned on the United States – or, depending on your vantage point, when the United States turned on them – we experienced the first blowback. The American public, shocked and traumatized, gave first, a Republican, and then a Democratic president all the guns and money and extra-Constitutional powers they demanded to push back against the Muslims who had not long ago been U.S. allies. The war planners in Washington figured they could live with the way events had turned out. After all, al-Qaida and its Salafist brethren were in no position to challenge U.S. dominance in the world – not anyplace that really counted – and their mere existence provided the U.S. war machine with a purpose in life, an excuse to subvert and wage low-level war against those nations that refused to tow the U.S. line.

And then came the so-called Arab Spring, and with it the terrifying prospect that Muslims in North Africa and the Middle East might take control of their own destinies – and the oil and natural gas that goes with it. Democracy means death to U.S. imperialism. Pew Research pollsters report that, on average, only 15 percent of Egyptians, Jordanians, Lebanese, Pakistanis and Turks have a favorable view of the United States. That's down from 25 percent in 2009, when Barack Obama came into office. If the Arab and Muslim "street" came to power, the United States would be run out of that whole section of the planet – and Washington knows it.

When Tunisia and Egypt erupted, the U.S. and Europe played the only cards they had: they brought in massive air power and called out the jihadi dogs of war in an unprovoked attack on Libya. Almost simultaneously, the Euro-Americans and the royal criminals of the Persian Gulf armed and financed a jihadi assault against Syria, as Washington and Israel stepped up their low-level war against Iran.

As Temple University's professor Tony Monteiro has pointed out, the whole rationale for the U.S. war on terror is a lie – the facts turned backwards. Washington claims it is engaged in a long, twilight war against non-state actors, terrorists, who seek to subvert and overthrow existing governments. In reality, it is the Americans who deploy non-state, jihadi actors to overthrow governments that Washington doesn't like. However, in doing so, the West has once again empowered fundamentalist forces that will inevitably turn against Washington, the Greatest Infidel of all. Last week's protests are only a small foretaste of what is to come: a blowback of such intensity that the foundations of Empire will crack, and crumble.

http://blackagendareport.com/content/mother-all-blowbacks-coming

"...Beyond the long-term US support for Mubarak, Egyptians would likely find it difficult to reconcile Engel's claim that the US freed them with the "made in USA" logos on the tear gas cannisters used against them by Mubarak's security forces; or with Hillary Clinton's touching 2009 declaration that "I really consider President and Mrs Mubarak to be friends of my family"; or with Obama's support for Mubarak up until the very last minute when his downfall became inevitable; or with the fact that the Obama administration plan was to engineer the ascension of the loathed, US-loyal torturer Omar Suleiman as Mubarak's replacement in the name of "stability"…"

US media angrily marvels at the lack of Muslim gratitude

NBC News, along with a leading US newspaper, insist that Egyptians should be grateful to the US for having 'freed' them

• Glenn Greenwald
• guardian.co.uk, Friday 14 September 2012 11.51 EDT

An injured Egyptian protester looks on during clashes with riot police near the US embassy in Cairo. Photograph: Khaled Desouki/AFP/Getty Images

One prominent strain shaping American reaction to the protests in the Muslim world is bafflement, and even anger, that those Muslims are not more grateful to the US. After all, goes this thinking, the US bestowed them with the gifts of freedom and democracy – the very rights they are now exercising – so how could they possibly be anything other than thankful? Under this worldview, it is especially confounding that the US, their savior and freedom-provider, would be the target of their rage.

On Wednesday, USA Today published an article with the headline "After attacks in Egypt and Libya, USA Today asks: Why?" The paper appeared to tell its readers that it was the US that freed the Egyptian people from tyranny:

"Attacks in Libya that left four US diplomats dead – including Ambassador Christopher Stevens – and a mob invasion of the US Embassy in Cairo, in which the US flag was torn to shreds, have left many to wonder: How can people the USA helped free from murderous dictators treat it in such a way?"

Did you know that the "USA helped free" Egyptians from their murderous dictator? On Thursday night, NBC News published a nine-minute report on Brian Williams' "Rock Center" program featuring its foreign correspondent, Richard Engel, reporting on the demonstrations in Cairo, which sounded exactly the same theme. Standing in front of protesting Egyptians in Tahrir Square, Engel informed viewers that this was all so very baffling because it was taking place "in Cairo, where the US turned its back on its old friend Hosni Mubarak", and then added:

"It is somewhat ironic with American diplomats inside the embassy who helped to give these demonstrators, these protesters, a voice, and allowed them to actually carry out these anti-American clashes that we're seeing right now."

That it was the US who freed Egyptians and "allowed them" the right to protest would undoubtedly come as a great surprise to many Egyptians. That is the case even beyond the decades of arming, funding and general support from the US for their hated dictator (to his credit, Engel including a snippet of an interview with Tariq Ramadan pointing out that the US long supported the region's dictators).

Beyond the long-term US support for Mubarak, Egyptians would likely find it difficult to reconcile Engel's claim that the US freed them with the "made in USA" logos on the tear gas cannisters used against them by Mubarak's security forces; or with Hillary Clinton's touching 2009 declaration that "I really consider President and Mrs Mubarak to be friends of my family"; or with Obama's support for Mubarak up until the very last minute when his downfall became inevitable; or with the fact that the Obama administration plan was to engineer the ascension of the loathed, US-loyal torturer Omar Suleiman as Mubarak's replacement in the name of "stability".

Given the history of the US in Egypt, both long-term and very recent, it takes an extraordinary degree of self-delusion and propaganda to depict Egyptian anger toward the US as "ironic" on the ground that it was the US who freed them and "allowed" them the right to protest. But that is precisely the theme being propagated by most US media outlets…

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/14/egypt-nbc?newsfeed=true

keck

wow, the obama freaks are sounding more and more like brainwashed north koreans crying over their dear leader

Yep, you could almost mistake us for Republicans....nah.

I think Obama nailed it, however one speach does not maketh a president. See, I think Obama CAN do a good job, however his lackluster attitude tells me he is bored with this presidency... either that or he misses his bro's back in chi-town.

President Obama's speech before the U.N. General Assembly proved that he is a true Statesman and a true Humanitarian which is why I support him and will vote for his re-election.

Having the facts, I cannot agree with your statements. The man (President B H Obama) is an empty suit. It takes far more than just reading from a script to be a leader. He is not.

There should also be a stronger response to the murders of Ambassador Stevens, and his staff.

Against whom in particular?

It's very easy to speak in the generalities of "them" and "they" but at some point you need to identify "them".

ZMan2012

You try living in a country that just overthrew a dictator, and see if you have complete control over protecting other countries' ambassadors. It's a little more complicated than the neo-con view of the world, and President Obama is the leader who can best handle the crisis:

Qadaffi's overthrow was forced by a rag tag bunch of militias, and since then various militias have been enforcers in their own territories. It's one of those militias that's accused of the attack on the Americans.

Now, however, the people of Bengazhi have risen up to throw out the militias. During the fight to topple Colonel Qadaffi last year these same men were seen as heroes, but since then, many had set themselves up as vigilantes in Benghazi.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57519421/libyans-try-to-push-back-against-militias/

Also, Ambassor Stevens didn't want high security, he wanted access to and from him with the people of benghazi

Trillian - I don't know how anyone knows what the "right amount" of security is - without looking like we've invaded a country. The two marines who died protecting our ambassador I'm sure felt, up until the end, that what they had was sufficient. Hindsight is always better - we all know that.

Obama/Biden 2012

Obama is definitely no bully. He's a wimp that bullies enjoy pushing around. Carter versus Obama would be a good match. Sore of like a pillow fight.

Road Warrior-252445

Sorry this post will be so long:

The list of senior terrorists killed during the Obama presidency is fairly extensive.

There’s Osama bin Laden, of course, killed in May.

Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) leader Anwar al-Awlaki as of today.

Earlier this month officials confirmed that al Qaeda’s chief of Pakistan operations, Abu Hafs al-Shahri, was killed in Waziristan, Pakistan.

In August, ‘Atiyah ‘Abd al-Rahman, the deputy leader of al Qaeda was killed.

In June, one of the group’s most dangerous commanders, Ilyas Kashmiri, was killed in Pakistan. In Yemen that same month, AQAP senior operatives Ammar al-Wa’ili, Abu Ali al-Harithi, and Ali Saleh Farhan were killed. In Somalia, Al-Qa’ida in East Africa (AQEA) senior leader Harun Fazul was killed.

Administration officials also herald the recent U.S./Pakistani joint arrest of Younis al-Mauritani in Quetta.

Going back to August 2009, Tehrik e-Taliban Pakistan leader Baitullah Mahsud was killed in Pakistan.

In September of that month, Jemayah Islamiya operational planner Noordin Muhammad Top was killed in Indonesia, and AQEA planner Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan was killed in Somalia.

Then in December 2009 in Pakistan, al Qaeda operational commanders Saleh al-Somali and ‘Abdallah Sa’id were killed.

In February 2010, in Pakistan, Taliban deputy and military commander Abdul Ghani Beradar was captured; Haqqani network commander Muhammad Haqqani was killed; and Lashkar-e Jhangvi leader Qari Zafar was killed.

In March 2010, al Qaeda operative Hussein al-Yemeni was killed in Pakistan, while senior Jemayah Islamiya operative Dulmatin - accused of being the mastermind behind the 2002 Bali bombings – was killed during a raid in Indonesia.

In April 2010, al Qaeda in Iraq leaders Abu Ayyub al-Masri and Abu Omar al-Baghdadi were killed.

In May, al Qaeda’s number three commander, Sheik Saeed al-Masri was killed.

In June 2010 in Pakistan, al Qaeda commander Hamza al-Jawfi was killed.

Remember when Rudy Giuliani warned that electing Barack Obama would mean that the U.S. played defense, not offense, against the terrorists?

If this is defense, what does offense look like?

-Jake Tapper

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/the-terrorist-notches-on-obamas-belt/

Amy - thank you for so efficiently posting a few of our "wimp's" accomplishments. I'll take the "wimp" Obama over the idiot Romney - anyday!

Obama/Biden 2012

The right wingers seem to forget all the "dead bodies" left in Iraq and those thousands who came home without arms and legs or blind or paralyzed (physically and psychologically) whose lives are changed forever. What about those men?

My heart goes out to the family and friends of Chris Stevens, but you can't indict President Obama for his death without also indicting George W. Bush. Sorry.

When Obama uses Bush as his scape goat for all that he has failed to do....I can actually kind of understand it....However, Diane 1871215 - blaming him for Chris Stevens' death is over the top! Libya was "liberated" during the "spring"...to pursue democracy....however, it's not working out too well because Obama's foreign policy s#cks. Obama keeps blaming the video....but to his credit HE hasn't blamed Bush YET...you really need to read the talking points just a little better.

Road warrior, Hussein is the inscumbent.

come on Road Warrior, now you will be called a liar or uneducated hick republicon teabagger stupidhead. Just wait for the Liberal Elite to show you the way. HAHAHA

roadwarrior--I sure hope you are right, my faith in American voters is fading fast! They just don't get the facts, to much bias media.

Aww...isn't that cute...poor Seizure trying to be relevant...

So, Pizza Man...just why are you all tingly about a Ryan/Romney ticket again?

They stand for "you and yours" right? Sure they do...

Keep plugging along little man, and hone those "deadly debating skills"...

The Real Numbers:

09-25-12

The newest research from Nate has it as the NOV 6 factors:

“Obama chance of winning 77.7% Romney 22.3%”

“Projected Winner Obama 309.3”

“Projected Loser Romney 228.7”

Popular Vote:

Obama 51.1% Romney 47.8%

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However, if the election was being voted in “Now Cast” Today:

Totals

“Obama chance of winning 95.7% Romney 4.3%”

“Projected Winner Obama 330.0”

“Projected Loser Romney 208.0”

Popular Vote:

Obama 51.8% Romney 46.9%

Reality check anyone?
Intrade is at 73% for the incumbent

Newsmax says;

Breaking from Newsmax.com

Obama Sweep! Now Leads in All Key States, Even N.C., Nevada, Colo.
President Barack Obama leads GOP challenger Mitt Romney, according to polls in 10 key swing states, with margins ranging from as little as 4 percentage points to as many as 12 percentage points.
This, according to Real Clear Politics, despite the president's unpopularity and poor record of high unemployment, lost jobs and a sputtering economy.

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This is about a campaign in reverse. This is about a candidate whose "coattails" are turning into "cement shoes" for many down ticket races. Bill Kristol opines that the house is now in play too, something that was unthinkable even a month ago.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/could-republicans-lose-house_652981.html

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Those of you on the right who are railing at the "media", the "pollsters" and the President, are barking up the wrong tree. It's the challenger and his campaign that are the problem, not the other way around. Maybe there is still a way to turn the ship around, but I don't see one being expressed here, and every day is one day less to to so...

dangerfield - to "turn the ship around" Republicans would have to have an actual viable candidate. 'nuff said!

Obama/Biden 2012

With Romney all but certain to lose in November, Republicans are now fearful that his remarkably inept campaign may bring down the whole Republican ticket. Democrats, once thought to be in danger of losing the Senate, now have a 79.9% chance of keeping the majority.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

What is not being reported very much, is how well Obama is doing in the states that are solidly behind Romney. One would assume they have abandoned Obama since 2008, but he's doing surprisingly well. The President's strength in non-competitive states suggests his lead in the crucial swing states is legitimate.

Many of these deeply red states have rarely been polled. But when there have been surveys taken, the numbers have sometimes been surprisingly "good" for Mr. Obama.

I put good in quotation marks because Mr. Obama is almost sure to lose almost all of those states (he could win Missouri and Arizona in a blowout). However, the polls in these states have not suggested that much of a drop-off for Mr. Obama from 2008, when he won the race by 7 percentage points nationally.

In some of these states, in fact — like Kentucky and Tennessee — recent polls have shown Mr. Obama running better than he did in 2008. There are others, like Georgia, where Mr. Obama's numbers have been poorer lately. The totality of the evidence from these states, however, seems to be most consistent with a 5- or 6-point national lead for Mr. Obama on the assumption of a uniform national swing — about the same as in the swing states.

@dangerfield#10.6: Afraid Romneys republican ship of state has been removed from the registry. The GOP miscalculated the vessel's size relative to Its course up through the narrows of "Sh^t creek. It's firmly wedged there, ugly and helpless, as a knot on a dogs penis, with Its cargo of bullsh^t ripening, like a roofless Alabama outhouse in the August sun. It's now every man for himself. That's why the republican Congress recessed and went home in field step. Appropriate. Republicans at best, are fit for nothing above "Carp" bait.

Salud good sir.

I have always wondered why there are not more public discussion or documentaries on how the religions have separated and built hate up so much over the past couple decades, we know there have been millions killed in wars between them all over last thousands of years but why did we have so much peace in the decades prior to 1980 relative to the annihilation wars in far back history...can we find those keys that helped us all for the short peaceful times?

TomasGrande

From the article above:

He continued, quoting Gandhi: ‘Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit,’” he said, garnering applause at the last line.

As usual, President Obama shows his strength as a true leader in world politics.

I am not being critical but how does quoting Gandhi show Obama's strength as a leader? Thank you in advance for the explanation.

Kathey, Ghandi happened to lead a peaceful revolt against the British, espousing a Non-Violent revolution which worked. The FACT that President Obama has been widely, and well, received by the world leaders, even our allies feel that he is MUCH better for the world than his predecessor Bush II. The fact that Pres. Obama understands what Ghandi was saying and how he applied it speaks measures about how very much Pres. Obama understands foreign policy. Romney's intolerance for anything which does not make him a buck will doom us to being an international pariah yet again because he plain does NOT understand these things.

What this shows is that peaceful solutions are possible: one does Not need to go rushing in with tanks and bombs and endangering our military men and women, let alone the innocent civilians that get caught in the middle in any conflict. Besides, the Military Industrial Complex is doing quite well as it is, I am sure that they would LOVE Romney to win so that they could start another immensely profitable war immediately with Iran, but, President Obama's policies of embargo against Iran are working just fine, as a report, just today, from Israel points out quite nicely!

The key word in Tomas' post is Respect, which world leaders have given our President. Bush II was the LEAST respected President in the last 60 years. He did not care what anyone thought of him, started 2 wars of choice that killed millions and displaced millions more, causing untiold misery to innocent civilians and making us far more enemies in the doing. His mishandling of the economy tanked not only our own economy, but it led to the domino effect and tanked much of the world economy as well.

Respect on the international stage is a very, very strong thing, it gets things from allies and enemies alike, most notably, they will be willing to sit down to discussions and negotiations on what the problems are and how to solve them for the good of everyone. If you are not respected, no one will be willing to talk to you, and that is a major weakness, which Bush II was plagued with and would, in the same vein, plague Romney as well.

You must mean until 1-20-2013.

09-25-12

The newest research from Nate has it as the NOV 6 factors:

“Obama chance of winning 77.7% Romney 22.3%”

“Projected Winner Obama 309.3”

“Projected Loser Romney 228.7”

Popular Vote:

Obama 51.1% Romney 47.8%

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However, if the election was being voted in “Now Cast” Today:

Totals

“Obama chance of winning 95.7% Romney 4.3%”

“Projected Winner Obama 330.0”

“Projected Loser Romney 208.0”

Popular Vote:

Obama 51.8% Romney 46.9%

obama biden until 2012 !

Better hurry and get your bets down!

Denise - what a totally ignorant post. But so Republican!

Obama/Biden 2012

DeniseB-

Barack Obama's policies are inciting this hatred toward America not a stupid video.

Lovely Denise; is this Rush's new spin? I'm sorry you've fallen pray to "Limbaugh the Hut". The discusting video is what started the riots.

President Obama is not inciting hate. President Obama is a good man.

Salud

Thomas - Denise might want to read the Deputy PM of Australia's comments yesterday when he talked about the "cranks and crackheads of the Republican party destroying the economy - not only of the US but of the world." Seems not everyone (or anyone) shares Denise's opinion!

Obama/Biden 2012

Denise, so Obama's policies incited the hatred that caused 911 and the many terrorist attacks prior to 2009 including numerous attacks on embassies between 2001 and 2009!!!??? At least Democrats were patriotic enough to rally around a republican president after the US had been attacked, even if that president did NOTHING to prevent the massive attack on American soil in spite of numerous well-known preceding threats.

Then backed away from it and used every excuse to denigrate him for the next 7 yrs. Yep real helpful folks those Libs

GAG!!

Stop being logical on MSNBC Bill or you will be barred!

hot, I keep forgetting that..Thanks :-)

beslan school massacre

achile laurel

TWA hijacking

7.7.7. attacks london

.....islamic terror keeps on going...

Never understood how a religion of peace could murder so many in the 20th and 21st Century. And the funny thing is they murder so many of their own. Hmm, violence and stupidity, what a great religion

depends on what side you are on bill.

...on this side of islam....we are victims....or will be one day.

Your logic is flawed.

Just because there were not videos in those cases does not mean that videos cannot incite violence.

If you read the timeline regarding the video and how the violence began, it is clear that the video is the reason for the initial protests.

Re-, ok spin all the other atrocities..You can't be that naive to believe that a video released in July caused the demonstrations and murders 2 months later ? It was already stated on assorted news networks that the attacks were planned in advance and that they were revenge attacks. Do you get all your news from Debbie Wassermann-Schultz?

Hey Bill, If you really want to look at religious tolerance you should take a look at the number of people murdered by the Catholic Church during the inquisition

Jack, I am talking 20th and 21st century, when people are supposed to have evolved from being barbarians . Islam is still in the 14th century in action and beliefs. And yes I think the crimes committed by the Catholic Church are beyond explanation, but this is here and now, not 200-300 years ago

Never understood how a religion of peace could murder so many in the 20th and 21st Century. And the funny thing is they murder so many of their own. Hmm, violence and stupidity, what a great religion

It's all about the virgins.

Hey Bill, If you really want to look at religious tolerance you should take a look at the number of people murdered by the Catholic Church during the inquisition

Hey Jack,

500 years ago or last week....which is more relevant?

You must mean Christianity in Europe in the 20th Century.

Or Shinto in the 20th Century?

Ask the Western Hemisphere if the events of the Spanish Conquest are relevant....

Ask the Western Hemisphere if the events of the Spanish Conquest are relevant....

The film was produced in southern California by Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a Coptic Christian filmmaker who was born in Egypt and influenced by radical anti-Islamic cleric Zakaria Botros Henein.

Nakoula was released from a US prison in June 2011 on probation from a bank fraud conviction. Production of the film started in August 2011 and then screened at a Hollywood theatre months later, when close to no one watched.

On July 1, 2012, a 14-minute-trailer of the film was uploaded to YouTube by "sambacile", thought to be one of Nakoula's aliases. Weeks later, right-wing Washington DC-based Coptic activist Morris Sadek sent the link to Gamel Girgis, an Egyptian reporter who writes about emigrant Copts for al-Youm al-Sabaa, a newspaper in Cairo.

Interest in the film then spread throughout the Egyptian media, with al-Nas channel presenter Khaled Abdullah, an ultraconservative Salafi, showing the clip dubbed into Arabic on September 8. Days later, violent protests broke out in two Muslim nations, as a firestorm was unleashed against US diplomatic posts.

Wrong. Try again.

"A source familiar with Stevens' thinking told CNN earlier this week that, in the months leading up to his death, the late ambassador worried about what he called the security threats in Benghazi and a rise in Islamic extremism."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/22/world/africa/libya-ambassador-journal/index.html

The word "regime" is improper in reference to United States government. The prefix "regi" means King, and we don't have royalty in America. The government was carefully created to prevent one person or group from having too much power or control.

We have a Republic form of government in which the representatives are selected through a democratic process.

Clotho:

The word regime (also "régime", from the original French pronunciation) refers to a set of conditions, most often of a political nature

But good try at diverting.

...hot doodie, ever the bigot...

He called for sanctions on Syria a year ago, not for Al-Assad to step down. So Obama has strengthened his position. Russia and China are blocking U.N. Sanctions.

Democracy and tolerance are doing well in India. India is not a Western culture.

Did you even read the article?

Sanctions not steping down? Wow, that makes all the difference....China and Russia.....points for trying, not results? India? You really think he was referring to India in that comment? Maybe...but where did India learn about democracy and tolerance (I guess we'll overlook honor killings and such when we think of tolerance....)? The greatest of British legacies.....

So for you, listening to President Obama is like listening to Jazz: it's the notes you DON'T hear. I didn't read this.

:)

Double post, thanks Newsvine! I didn't read this because I base opinions on facts and evidence.

obama evil number1 united with evil #2 muslim brotherhood against christains,