Best line Job1, is this one:

They see the national debt clock staring them in the face. They see a debt crisis, and they just ignore and pretend it didn’t even happen.

Newsflash, Paul Ryan: your plans will be increasing the deficit.

Paul Ryan, an ardent Green Bay Packers fan

What do the Ryan / Romney campaign and the Green Bay Packers have in common? A terrible offensive line.

So Ryan WANTS the owners to negotiate with the evil referee union??? Perhaps he doesn't know the regular refs are on strike for better pay and benefits.

What a putz. They've got nothing if this is all he has to talk about.

More whining! That's all Republicans do! And, Ryan is one of the best whiners they have - outside of Mitt and Annie!

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'Give me a break. It is time to get the real refs,'

WTF???? I thought Paulie was for Union busting.

Sucks when it effects you! Ain't that right Mr. Ryan?

What a tool. ;)

So negotiating with the unions is OK as long as it isn't a teachers union right??Go Bears!

Kirk? did you say something? I think I know a little about both. But thanks for the condescending remarks. I don't think I need any schooling from you.

I let you know if I care what you believe. Buzz off.

The owners have decided NFL referees need to be locked out because like the scorpion who stings, that’s simply what they do. Look at the demands being made of the referees: NFL owners want them to stop being part-time labor and instead work full-time for the league. Sounds great, except they want the refs to eliminate their other sources of income while taking a 16 percent cut in salary. They also want to eliminate their pensions and replace them with 401k plans tied to the stock market. Put simply, the owners line is less pay, less benefits, and if you don’t like it we’re locking the doors.

“They told us if we didn’t take what was on the table, they would cut it more and they have. They have disguised regressive bargaining as trying to improve officiating overall and to give people more time off,” said NFL Referee’s Association lead negotiator Mike Arnold. “They keep saying in the media that they were willing, able, and ready to negotiate, but they kept telling us they weren’t interested in discussing our proposal and if the deal was going to settle it was going to settle on their terms.”

The referees and the NFL Players Association both seem to be keeping any joint strategy under wraps. “We’ll see what the decision is as we get closer to [opening] day. Hopefully, they can figure this out in an amicable way as soon as possible. I’m not sure what the decision is going to be from the Players Association when that day comes,” NFLPA president Domonique Foxworth told PFT Live.

But both seem to be coordinating arguments about player’s safety as the most compelling reason to end the lockout. As NFLPA Executive Director DeMaurice Smith said, “The officials are being asked to be first responders on the field for player safety as well as to officiate the games. How do you expect officials not used to doing games at that level to be able to step in and handle the job? To use a [lockout] as a motivational tactic in negotiations…we find repulsive.”

However, like the high-skilled workers at a Honeywell uranium plant in Metropolis, Illinois, learned after a fourteen-month lockout, today’s bosses rarely listen to appeals about safety. Furthermore, as they learned, the longer the lockout drags on, the more time employers have to increase the quality of their replacement workers. The quality of the godawful refereeing on display will, with time, improve as well.

John Paul Smith, who was one of those Honeywell workers that suffered through the lockout, which ended in August of 2011, says now that having been through the pain of a lockout himself, there is no way he could watch the NFL this year. John Paul Smith is now calling on other fans to boycott watching as well, knowing that the only way to make the owners back off is if they feel it in their wallets.

“I have been a Dolphins fan since I was in the fifth grade and I can’t watch it. It’s killing me,” said Smith. If Goodell and friends don’t care about the refs, the health of their players, or the quality of the games, then maybe they’ll care about that: people like John Paul Smith turning away from the game until NFL owners remember that owning the game doesn’t mean owning the people who officiate it.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/169593/why-are-nfl-refs-locked-out-its-all-game

What do the Ryan / Romney campaign and the Green Bay Packers have in common? A terrible offensive line.

Excellent analysis Xabre!

crony capitalism never seen before

Kirk -- You're not looking. Look to Defense contractors, Wall Street, Bankers etc. The biggest fish are staring you in the face.

Another thing that Ryan and the Packers have in common: they both get booed when they're on the field.

It looks to me like Little Eddie is spending more time in front of the tube while papa bear aka "flipper" tries to win an election.

What does Willard have in common with Brett Farve? He doesn't know when it is time to leave. How many times has Willard ran for office and lost anyways?

PS, Since watching a football game takes about the same amount of time as playing a round of golf, should we whine and complain about all the time Eddie spends watching football?

Unbelievably retarded comparison. While that game resulted in a bad final call, there were bad calls all night, one that resulted in a Packers TD. I will make my own comparison, the Packers are like Republicans in that when they receive a benefit they are more than happy to look the other way but when that same benefit is against them all they do is complain unprofessionally (i.e. T.J. Lang on Twitter)

How you like them apples Ryan?

Exactly right, Alex1145. I don't hear the Packers complaining about the horrible pass interference call that set up their one and only touchdown last night.

I got more!

The packers are far from their glory days and rapidly in decline! haha All you have to look at the 1-2 Pack and polls for your favorite Mormon Mitt Romney

Poor Paul Ryan, reduced to talking about the substitute refs and trying to blame President Obama for Ryan and the GOP's failed policies.

How can anyone call Paul Ryan a deficit hawk? When President Bush took office, he was handed a balanced budget with surpluses to pay down the debt Reagan and Bush 41 created. Ryan and his party then eviscerated the budget in less than one year. Ryan, Bush 43 and the GOP doubled the national debt, which Reagan and Bush 41 had quadrupled. Paul Ryan never once from 2001-2008 stood on the House floor to announce a plan to reduce deficit spending, least of all reduce the debt--he voted "yea" for the deficit and the debt. Now both Ryan and the GOP point their finger of blame at President Obama for the massive deficit and debt their policies created. Trust Ryan? No, Paul Ryan is a liar and a hypocrite--a disastrous combination for this country.

Poetic justice.....the parallels are priceless.... SCAB CHEAP LABOR FORCE ISNT COMPETENT TO DO THE JOB OF A UNION EMPLOYEE. The game and the fans suffer and the greedy union killing league with their tens of millions in salary for some players and a few millions lining their own pockets want to squeeze the refs for pennies and ruin the integrity of the game.

NIce that it happened to the packers who have had more than a few calls go their way. As a Sehawk fan, we can relate to bad referee calls. In our case it cost us a superbowl.

Last week, Ryan was saying "let free markets and capitalism decide." Tell that to the Packers.

lyin ryan reminds me of Cheezy Chicken. I hate cheezy chicken even though it is an upgrade on fryin lyin ryan. As a positive for his side, he can count me as one of the 47% who has found absolutely nothing in his character to remotely induce me to vote for him.

5000 comediens out of a job and you guys are making jokes.......

Romney/Ryan's inevitable loss in November is a cheering thought, don't you think, sirie? So, don't be a sourpuss simply because your feeble minded candidate is failing miserably. Look on the bright side: you won't have to support another GOP loser for president until 2016! Feel better? No? Well, you'll get over it in time.

"I got to start off on something that was really troubling that occurred last night," said the Wisconsin congressman and Republican vice-presidential nominee at the top of his town hall here. "Did you guys watch that Packer game last night? I mean, give me a break. It is time to get the real refs."

But he didn't stop there. Ryan actually tried to draw a line between the replacement refs and President Obama.

"And you know what, it reminds me of President Obama and the economy," he contended. "If you can't get it right, it is time to get out. I half think these refs work part-time for the Obama administration in the Budget Office.

Eddie, Eddie, Eddie Munster, This is exactly what you get when you try to break-up unions, you Tea-Republican SCAB. The only reason you brought it up is your team got fu*ked. You and your Tea-Republican friends want to break-up unions and start having people work for peanuts and peanut-butter is what you get, you DUMBA*S. So, keep on trying to break-up unions and this is what the whole country will look like before long, a bunch of SCABS that have their heads up their AS*ES and don't know what the fu*k they're doing, just like you and Mitt-Witt. You and Mitt-Witt and all your Tea-Republican supporters will get what you pay for, absolutley NOTHING. Get used to losing Lyin' Ryan and Mitt-Witt and go back home and play your social-engineering games there, my country is not your laboratory, YOU LYIN' AS*HOLES!!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

Lets all hum along with the Romney/Ryan campaign song:

"They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning,
no-one you see, is smarter than he,
and we know Flipper, lives in a world full of
wonder, flying there-under, under the sea!"

Romney complained that the people who designed airplanes were stupid because they designed then so that you couldn't open the windows. He thought this put his wife's (Lil Oprah Annie) life in danger. Ryan blamed the design of airplane windows on Obama.

Let me get this straight Mr. Ryan. The NFL owners and referees can't come to a compromise and that's a bad thing. Congress adjourns because they can't compromise on the debt ceiling and that's just business as usual, right?

Clearly the Romney/Ryan team is not cut out for the big leagues.

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Smitty,

Your boy Ryan brought the premiere American Sport into the Political realm. The "biased liberal media" is laughing him out the door.

There were bad calls made with the professional refs. The issue now is, the replacement refs don't make calls, rather than make a call and have it called a bad one. That is the problem with this.

IMHO the NFLPA should be honoring the strike by the refs and NOT playing. You'd better believe the owners would settle REAL QUICK. No players = no money. Then they would settle.

And WTF is Ryan talking about referees for, yes, he got applause from a few green bay fans, but he probably alienated more people otherwise.

This election is coming down to the 10-15% of the people who truly have not made up their minds. How that is possible, I don't know, but saying things which write off major groups is not how you win votes.

Agreed Dirp.

They do seem to love breaking conventional rules of political science...

Kirk? did you say something? I think I know a little about both. But thanks for the condescending remarks. I don't think I need any schooling from you.

I let you know if I care what you believe. Buzz off.

Kirk you ought to know by now the Democrats/Liberals don't want facts. What you say is true and devie-ate knows it. Just hates it when a talking point goes bad to the truth.

Ryan and Romney are two little men (small-minded) running for large offices. There is no worse sight than a small minded man in a large office.

Many of Mitt's friends are NASCAR owners. I am almost certain that many of his friends are NFL owners as well. Ryan had better be carful that he does not rub Mitt's deep pocketed friends the wrong way.

a good analogy. Except the officials can learn from their mistakes.

Democrats can't. They have no idea of what being correct is.

Obama- says last week we need the refs back.

Ryan- waits until it affects him directly (his Packers), then does the childish thing by insulting the interim refs and makes a dumb analogy to the debt clock. The League, the commissioner, team owners and the REAL refs are the only ones to be bashed. These pickup refs are doing the best they can.

Romney/Ryan-- caring only for themselves, insulting the wrong group, complaining about a problem with no real solution to improve it. That's the current Republican platform...

Devie, my guess is you think you know a little about both and thats all it is "little". My mom, wife and sister are members of the teacher's union. I sit on my village's board so I am involved daily with police, fire and government unions and how in Illinois the benefits are bankrupting the state (rules set by the state handcuffing our ability to negotiate in good faith. My guess is I know alot more than you and live it every day. So whether you care what I say is irrelevant. Its like you telling me that you believe that Obama has been good for the poor, middle class and minorities over the last 4 years in the face of the actual statistics and facts. I can tell you to buzz off I dont care what you say but it doesnt change the facts. Good try though. Just like Seeking Sanity, never debate or reply to posts with critical thinking just brush it off as an inconvenient truth by trying to diminish the poster.

DCIA--I never said there werent other examples of crony capitalism nor whether I find it good for the country. The problem with your example, is that Wall Street donates to both parties but primarily to Obama. Defense contractors also benefit both parties depending on the congressmen in power in the local district they want to lobby. Government unions literally put democratic legislators in power at local, state and federal levels who literally sit on the other side and provide them the benefits they dont need with money that isnt theirs. Crony capitalism is bad in all forms but government unions are particularly so because they only bribe one political party.

Unions get you bad refs but great benefits.

So the guy who is the VP candidate of the party that is made up of union busting , hiring cheap as you can get, scab hiring corporations wants his fully qualified, getting the job done correctly union members back because the scabs are woefully incompentent?

Slimeyone, the union refs with the great benefits get that call right 100% of the time! The incompetent scabs got that call wrong but they were cheaper to employ.

The Ref's are where they belong ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN.....

l love it that the RWNJ'S will have 4 more years of Obama the (wink and a nod)
"N" in the White House.

I can empathize... those 8 years of Dubya were like fingers on a black board. Every time they put that smug, spoiled, stupid puss on TV it felt like a Hemorrhoid gone bad.

As a Charger fan who remembers teh Ed Hoculi game, are the replacement refs really that much worst than the regular refs? Ask a Raider fan who remembers the "Tuck" game.

Romney makes another gaff. "Bring back 'experienced' NFL referees"

Just like an "experienced" President would do a better job too.

Please vote for ol lyin Ryan. Lyin and a cheatin can be part of the good lords work too as long as it gets us some trickel down and to the promised land (after armegidion with the jew against the arab as told in the bible).

Headline should be:

Paul Ryan says the market has spoken and the market wants to be regulated by the official regulators into the game because without rules the game is wrecked and everybody is worse off.

Mr. Ryan: Go back to Mordor & tell your Dark Lord and Master the people of Middleclass want

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ursula, not only the audience,but most of the gop cringes at such profound and utter incompetance.

lol - Romney and Ryan are the replacement refs., what a @#$%@ss.

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Ugh - stop your whining. Ryan/Romney have brought all this on themselves for being liars and not being able to take a stand on anything - except tax breaks for the rich of course.

"If you can’t get it right, it is time to get out. I half think these refs work part-time for the Obama administration in the Budget Office. They see the national debt clock staring them in the face. They see a debt crisis, and they just ignore and pretend it didn’t even happen."

Gee does that mean Ryan's gonna take his own suggestion and get out too? I mean he voted for the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, socializing our economy with bailouts for Wall Street, Banks, TARP, and TBTF. Furthermore, he socialized prescription drug coverage for seniors by voting for Medicare Part D. And of course he voted to run up the national debt into the trillions when he voted for two unfunded wars (one based on lies). Maybe we shouldn't even mention your vote for the Bush tax cuts that added additional trillion$ to the deficit. Or, what about the debt clock and debt crisis staring you in the face and ignoring it and pretending it's not happening while the US financial system gets downgraded into oblivion. Yeppers there Mr. Ryan, you've proved with your comments that it takes one to know one!!

Another example -- 60 Minutes' presidential candidates interview recap:
To Romney: "people are concerned about your history of flip flop on your positions such as abortion..."
To Obama: "please share what you've learned from your previous experience..."

Actually, it's phrasing like that that makes people think the media might finally be applying a critical eye to the GOP campaign rather than being it its back pocket. Using honest language to describe Ryan's actions is not "leaning to the left"; it's simply reflecting reality.

Oh the poor Republicans. The liberal media is so mean! Whine, whine, whine.

It's simply reflecting the reality of those who support Obama, Acme. A more party neutral writer would leave the emotional impact of the situation to the words of others, not insert his or her own emotions into the story. But I get it -- football is emotional, and combine that with politics... it's amazing ANYONE's still talking to their "friends" on Facebook!!

NorCal - 60 minutes failed to correct Romney when he lied and said that Obama had a "super majority" during his first 2 years in congress. I'd say that's not exactly reporting that is "leaning to the left"...

Pedestrian - I saw that too. At some point I would love to have them challenged on that. I'd also love a moderator to ask Romney why he and other Republicans feel it is in any way acceptable for them to pledge an oath to Grover Norquist - when they've been elected to represent the citizens of their states - not him.

Obama/Biden 2012

Oh please, four years of "show us your birth certificate, what did you mean about clinging to guns and religion, and do you really love your country?" and you're complaining about "people are concerned about your history of flip flop on your positions such as abortion..." ?

Mitt Romney was pro-abortion rights as governor of Massachusetts, and now he advocates making it illegal, having run in a Republican primary. That's kind of a big deal, to people for whom that is a decisive issue in choosing a President.

Amy, you misunderstand the point. An impartial observer, which the news supposedly is, doesn't insert inference into a news piece. An unbiased reporter relies on the words of others to import meaning, and the writer's own feelings disappear. (Which isn't entirely possible, but I'd hope reporters would at least TRY.) By setting Obama up to talk about his perceived strengths, and setting Romney up to talk about his perceived weaknesses, it skews the comparison. And I by no means mean to imply that Fox doesn't do the same thing the other way. Regarding 60 Minutes, what I would have liked to have seen was a question about weaknesses for both of them, followed by a question about strengths for both of them.

You're asking for moderators to insert MORE of their own emotion and views into their news pieces. I'm saying I wish that reporters left the construction of ladders of inference to the viewer, instead of imposing their own emotional construct. Especially when that construct is so glaringly obvious.

NorCal - then you must absolutely DESPISE David Gregory since he panders so much for the Republicans. I mean, he actually tries to make their points for him - so you're against that, right?

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SeekingSanity,

I don't like pandering as a general rule. Can you give me an example of David Gregory doing it? If so, then yeah. I'm against that.

Romney/Ryan 2012 - A New Hope

FOX NEWS Unbiased Reporting

6 resignations of CEO’s and Commissioners

7 arrests of editors and reporters

2 reporters jailed

James Murdoch stepping down from the publishing units within News’s Corp’s British newspaper arm.

Hacking into the phones of thousands to generate news

Victims

Celebrities, The Royal Family, Sports Figures, Grieving victims of war crime and terrorism.

And any one who listens to FOX

@NorCalModerate:

David Gregory has been pandering to the right for some time...

We all get that Fox news is Conservative. But that is the only one. The media is so extremely biased.

538 is giving Obama a 77.7% chance of winning on Nov 6th. That compares to a 95.7% chance if the election was behing held today. What is really interesting is that "red states" are getting slightly redder overall, but Obama is actually doing better this time than in 2008 in Alabama, Arizona, Kentucky, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Tennessee than he did when running against McCain in 2008. The GOP 'brand" is failing, even in the reddest states.

If you are a 538 follower (as I obviously am), Nate Silver gave a really great TED Talk on racial disparities in the 2008 Presidential election. Here is a link:

http://www.ted.com/talks/nate_silver_on_race_and_politics.html

It really is worth watching. The bottom line is that if you took every person who voted for McCain and subtracted those percentages, based on exit polls, who stated that race was the primary reason they voted for McCain, then Obama would have won by the largest margin since George Washington (who ran unopposed.)

It shows that racism goes deeper than religion when people will line up behind a rich white non-Christian (who had six grandmothers and whose father was an illegal immigrant) to avoid voting for Obama. Kinda strange world we live in ---inhabited by all sorts of non-sentient creatures.

Except this is not a regular article, but rather part of First Read, which is more like a blog. Did you miss that?

The fact is, and remains: Outside of countries that censor the press, the United States has the most right-wing media of any country in the world. All, with only a handful of very small examples, are owned by right-wingers. For example, NBC is owned by Comcvast, noteworthy because Comcast is both right-wing and has one of the highest consumer complaint records in the world.

Just because a reporter sees something idiotic and reports on it doesn't make him or his media left-leaning. It is just a guy doing his job.

@tomilvento --- FirstRead IS a blog! What did you think it was? A crystal ball or an enclyclopedia of right-wing fantasy?

And how about conservative right-winger "I'll go put a bag over my head." Joe Scarborough or "Can I hold your hand?" Gregory? Right enough for you. Just because they are embarrased by the party they belong to doesn't mean they are lefties.

NorCal - I am waiting to see a response to your asking for a proving point of Gregory pandering. But then again, I don't think either Bill in PDX or "proving Insanity" the puppets above, can find one.

Me too, Talk to the Hand.

And you're right tomilvento -- this is more of an editorial page, that has direct ties to a news outlet. And maybe unbiased analysis isn't their goal. But I don't see an equally conservative blog represented on NBC's main news page, just this one -- which ties NBC to a biased opinion.

My frustration, Chris, isn't that a First Read writer saw something idiotic -- it's that the writer inserted his or her opinion about it being idiotic. As for 60 minutes, I would assume that they're trying to pass themselves off as unbiased. If that's the case, the framing of those questions was a fail.

Adding, that the sub-line of First Read is: "The first place for news and analysis from the NBC News Political Unit." That sounds like they're touting themselves as an unbiased extension of NBC to me. I'd not complain if they called themselves "The first place for EDITORIAL OPINION from the NBC News Political Unit"

Comparing Paul Ryan and the NFL replacement referees is an insult to the referees.

so true, at least with the replacement refs they were offered a position and took it knowing they are in over their heads. Ryan wanted the position and doesn't realize he's in over his head.

Ryan is actually polling badly in Wiscoinsin and is in danger of losing his seat in the House. The Koch brothers are pumping millions into his re-election campaign.

What I wonder is...if Ryan is a candidate for VP, how can he be running for the House?

Actually, zman, we'll have Obama as President until January 2017.

Yes, bust those unions! That is a real part of the Democrats platform!

the NFL will get rid of the replacement refs, just as we the 47% will get rid of the1% charlatan lackies.

So this is what the potential VP is concerned about? No doubt all those now unemployed will be relieved that his head is in the game.

They don't. But their supporters also don't respond to humility. They want a "maverick" representing them

They got a "maverick" with the traitor McCain who sold out his fellow POWs and airmen for personal gain. And the "Songbird" didn't work in 2008. Now they are trying again with a non-Christian with six grandmothers and an illegal immigrant father.

@Chris-749391

Actually Romney's father, George's parents were American citizens, which makes him a naturalized citizen. Yep, Romney does have six grandmothers.

Obama is also a naturalized citizen as his Mother was born in Kansas.

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Obummers mother was white trash and his drunkin father was the king of garbage

Hmmm. That sounds a lot like your parents, AWSOMISON. Are you sure you're not just projecting your unhappy childhood into this discussion? Maybe it would be better if you discussed this matter privately with a qualified mental heath professional: the rest of us here are bored by the nasty details of your pathetic personal life.

I get a pension from the mine workers union. Have you ever been in a coal mine? Just recently 29 people died in a non union coal mine in WV. Safety provisions were abrogated or ignored. That was the worst disaster since 1970, when 38 non-union miners were killed in Ky.

Massey Coal was found to be directly responsible for the Upper Big Branch Mine explosion. One of the first responders was a United Mineworkers rescue team. 2 miners were brought out alive.

I offer some unsolicited advice. If you want to run your mouth about bloodsucking lowlife union miners stay in Wisconsin where you can be faceless, dont go near the Upper Big Branch Mine, because a local might rip out your tongue.

Oh so On the edge, you are saying that OSHA and the other regulatory agencies had no guilt in those situations to inspect and shut down the mines? I don't think it goes all to the lack of a union to stand up for their brothers in the mines.

That is MSHA not OSHA, and I can give you my thoughts only. they were not found to be at fault. But it is rumored that blankenship (masseys owner) had a few agents in his pocket. He even got caught buying a judge.

Massey always seemed to know when an inspection was imminent

Empirical data indicates that union mines are safer than non-union mines. mining is one of the most dangerous occupations in the US so there are going to be fatalities. But not on the scale of the farley or massey disasters though.

Alpha (who bought out massey) shut down 6 mining ops. last week in WV. There were various reasons speculated on. The real reason; weak market.

By the way, the UMWA is an autonomous union

Actually I am not a Green Bay fan but they do not deserve to have a POS like Polly Anna Ryan associated with the team.

From a Green Bay fan, I guess you have to take your wins anyway you can get them.

I seem to be noticing a trend here. The Republican and Tea Party trolls are not so well represented these days. But if there are still some around, here's your fact for the day:

No Presidential candidate except Harry Truman has ever polled this badly this close to an election and still won. (And most statisticians and political scientists are very skeptical about the Truman/Dewey polls.)

Romney is toast. He will go back to Bain (the "retirement" was a fake), file an ammended tax return and claim the $2.5 millions in deductions that he "forgot" and will quietly disappear from public view. Ryan is in danger of losing his House seat. If he loses in Wisconsin, his political career is also finished. The GOP "brand" was tarnished by McCain and has further degraded with Romney. It is likely that the GOP will effectively split into three warring parties --- a liberal/moderate Republican party with 2/3 of current Republicans, a Tea Party of ultra-neo-con haters with about 20% of current Republicans, and a Libertarian Party of non-thinkers who will still advocate for anarchy and the gold standard.

A split Republican Party will not be competitive in national elections and most Senate elections. Their only presence will be a handful of Representatives, and state and local officials that no one really cares that much about. McCain/Palin and Romney/Ryan are essentially handing all future national elections to the Democrats without a fight.

It is a fact that Romney has not led a single day in aggregated polls since becoming the presumptive candidate. At least McCain led for four days before falling off the bus.

Didn't romney run against mccain? mccain, whose daddy was an admiral CINC PAC, granddaddy an admiral (wonder how he got in Annapolis?) and graduated 897 out of 900. mccain/palin ticket that almost had a double diget IQ, and still lost?

romney , whose granddaddy went to mexico because he wanted to keep his polygamist cult affiliation. where's his daddys birth certificate. He appears to be the son of an undocumented alien. that is why you only hear attacks from gop birthers.I dont think romney could stand the scrutiny.

Chris and On the edge.... thank you. Trust me ... my post wasn't political at all. I am pissed about the NFL refs and the fact that Ryan gets a public stage where the rest of us "fans" only get to yell at our screens!

Thank you! :)

Swiss Cheese Head

From the article above:

"And you know what, it reminds me of President Obama and the economy," he contended. "If you can’t get it right, it is time to get out. I half think these refs work part-time for the Obama administration in the Budget Office.

Funny, But Congressman added to the deficit when he voted for all of President Bush's tax cuts and two illegal wars.

I guess Congressman Ryan is the one with a part-time memory. The majority of Americans remember, and will show it this November.

Salud

The majority of Americans remember, and will show it this November.

I am sure the "majority" of Americans have no clue what Ryan did in Congress. Just like they had no clue what Obama did. They sure as hell didn't vote for him on his record.

Ryan lied about the Weinermobile along with his record-breaking marathon. Oscar Meyer is a lot more selective than that! He was allowed only to drive if 5 feet or so at a trade show. So that only leaves the lobbyist money ......