First Thoughts: Saturation

Good luck trying to avoid Obama, Romney today. They’ll be doing interviews and high-profile speeches in the media capital of the world … Romney wins a news cycle … The risk for Obama in trying to do no harm in meeting with foreign leaders … In UN speech, Obama to take on two Romney criticisms … This might be Romney’s make-or-break-week in Ohio … The shrunken battleground (what happened to PA, NM and what does it mean for the future of politics) … Obama up in new polls in OH, FL, PA, NC … Akin’s drop dead deadline … And Massachusetts Senate race takes a nasty turn. … And just 1,000 hours to Election Day – tick, tick, tick.

NBC's Domenico Montanaro discusses the busy day ahead on the 2012 campaign trail with both President Obama and Mitt Romney keeping busy schedules full of speeches and interviews.

*** Saturation: We’re now inside 1,000 hours to Election Day (can you believe it!?!?!), and get ready to see A LOT of Barack Obama and Mitt Romney, starting with a near unprecedented level of media saturation. Let’s run through the schedule: the two candidates are holding high-profile speeches -- with world leaders and a former popular president and both appear in interviews for NBC’s “Education Nation” – all in the media capital of the world. On top of that, Romney will appear in distinct interviews today that will air on NBC, MSNBC, CNN and Fox and that doesn’t count the usual slate of local TV interviews. Bottom line: It’s going to be nearly impossible to miss either of them today. And New Yorkers, by the way, good luck with the traffic. Here’s the rundown: 7:00 am hour: Clip of Obama’s interview with NBC on Education Nation aired on TODAY. 9:00 am ET: Romney speaks at the Clinton Global Initiative. 10:00 am ET: Obama addresses the United Nations General Assembly. 11:00 am ET: Obama interview on The View airs. 11:00 am ET: Romney interviewed by NBC’s Brian Williams at Education Nation (then heads to Vandalia, OH, for a 3:00 pm ET rally with Paul Ryan and Sen. Rand Paul). Noon ET: Obama speaks at CGI (then returns to Washington). That’s a lot of Obama and Romney.

*** Romney wins a news cycle: While both will be very public today, what will be interesting to see is if Romney’s doing as much attacking today as he did yesterday. It’s not likely. His speech at CGI, for example, will focus on his vision for foreign assistance and he’s presenting a fairly interesting public-private idea for foreign assistance that will likely get lost in partisan attacks but deserves some attention. Back to the raw politics -- yesterday, Romney and his campaign had a plan and they executed. Sure, some will say they were chasing the news cycle, but they were chasing with a plan. They had a point they wanted to drive home – on “bumps in the road” before the UN General Assembly and did so with mini interviews with all the networks and were on message. They were able to win a news cycle, which right now, a one-day win is important compared with what they’ve been through over the last three weeks starting with Clint Eastwood.

*** The harm in trying to do no harm: With football on the minds of many today (after last night’s refereeing debacle – full disclosure: one of us is a big Packers fan), Obama’s plan today has a whiff of prevent defense. What it’s doing – like in a prevent – is it allowing the opposition to pick up yards over the middle and get a couple of first downs. If you compare former President Bush’s 2004 schedule at the U.N. and Obama’s it’s a pretty big difference. It made sense politically for Bush to meet with world leaders, given that his election was largely about foreign policy, and we get Obama’s strategy – first, do no harm, don’t make any news before the debates, take the criticism from the “media elites.” But it doesn’t show a lot of courage -- and winding up on The View (and not doing one-on-one meetings with foreign leaders while they are conveniently in NYC) makes him subject to criticism from the right. If foreign policy is supposed to be one of Obama’s strengths and multilateralism is a hallmark of his policy, why wouldn’t Obama want to HIGHLIGHT that? Why wouldn’t he want to meet with both Israel’s Netanyahu and Egypt’s Morsi? And above politics, it’s striking with all that’s going on in the Arab world that the ostensible leader of the free world is not meeting with anyone. For their part, the Obama folks are counting on the public not caring about this issue as much as the Romney campaign or the media. And perhaps they will be proven right. After all, Mr. and Mrs. Ohio will see the president address the United Nations. Sure looks like he’s dealing with foreign affairs.

Brendan Smialowski / AFP - Getty Images

President Barack Obama, First Lady Michelle Obama, and Joy Behar talk during a break in a taping of "The View" at ABC Studios September 24, 2012 in New York, New York.

*** Obama to take on two Romney criticisms: All of that said, Obama is addressing the U.N., and that speech, according to excerpts, will likely make the “bumps in the road” attack seem pretty petty. Obama will say, per prepared remarks, "The attacks of the last two weeks are not simply an assault on America. They are also an assault on the very ideals upon which the United Nations was founded.” He will add, “We must declare that this violence and intolerance has no place among our United Nations." On Iran, Obama will say, “America wants to resolve this issue through diplomacy, and we believe that there is still time and space to do so. But that time is not unlimited.” And: “The United States will do what we must to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon." Those statements on Libya and Iran go right to the heart of two of Romney’s chief criticisms – that the president said developments in the Middle East and North Africa were “bumps in the road,” and that Obama hasn’t been tough enough on Iran. By the way, we mentioned The View above, Obama did talk foreign policy on the show and largely admitted the attacks were terrorism: "There's no doubt that the kind of weapons that were used, the ongoing assault, that it wasn't just a mob action." Speaking of “bumps,” flashback to 2005, when then-Bush foreign policy adviser, now Romney foreign policy adviser Dan Senor said of violence in Iraq: “It's democracy. We often said that when we're there, democracy is messy. If you want clean and tidy, there's dictatorship.”

*** Romney’s make-or-break week for Ohio: We noted yesterday the importance of Ohio in this presidential election and to Romney. But it’s hard to overstate it – this may be the make-or-break week for the campaign in the state. If this week’s bus tour doesn’t move the needle, as the Romney campaign might say, they very well could decide to all but write off the Buckeye State. They won’t say it explicitly; they’ll go through the motions, but they may have no choice than to try and shore up or make in roads in places like Wisconsin, Colorado Florida, and Virginia.

*** Cheap applause line alert for Battleground Wisconsin: Which candidate takes a stand against replacement refs? Does Paul Ryan do it, given he’s a Packers fan? Something to watch today perhaps. Ryan holds a rally in Cincinnati at 11:30 am ET.

*** Ad spending – the shrunken battleground: Last presidential cycle, then-candidate Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain were running ads in 21 states, according to SMG Delta – Obama (21): AZ, CO, FL, GA, IN, IA, ME, MI, MN, MO, MT, NV, NH, NM, NC, ND, OH, PA, VA, WV, and WI; McCain (16): CO, FL, IN, IA, ME, MN, MO, NV, NH, NM, NC, OH, PA, VA, WV, WI. This week, both campaigns are spending (so far) $19 million in the exact same states and there are just nine of them – IA, CO, FL, NC, NH, NV, OH, VA, and WI, with one outside group (Restore Our Future) running almost $1 million in ads in MI. Just look at all those states from last time to this. It’s a striking shift – the candidates are spending more money in fewer states and in fewer markets. Nowhere, by the way, that’s left out jumps out more than Pennsylvania and New Mexico. If this election is supposed to be like 2004, remember, George W. Bush only lost the Keystone state 2.5 points and he WON New Mexico (albeit by less than a point). It highlights, once again, how Romney has to largely run the table in these toss-up states and -- in the bigger political picture for the future – how the changing demographics currently favor Democrats. (With outside groups factored in, total spending is more than $33 million, with Team Romney outspending Team Obama $18.8 million to $14.5 million.)

*** Polling update – Obama up in FL, OH: Speaking of Ohio, another poll shows Obama with a sizable lead. A Washington Post poll has Obama up 52-44%. … In Florida, the Post has Obama up 51-47%. … In Pennsylvania, a Mercyhurst University poll shows the president with a 48-40% lead. … And in North Carolina, a Civitas poll (conducted by National Research) shows Obama up 49-45%.

*** Akin, remember that? And Massachusetts gets nasty: Today’s the drop dead deadline for Todd Akin (R) to drop out of the Missouri Senate race. Remember that story? It’s not going to happen. Watch your TV sets in Missouri at 5:01 pm for those McCaskill ads featuring Republicans obliterating Akin. … In Massachusetts, the Senate race has taken a nasty turn – focusing again on Elizabeth Warren’s Native American claims. Both candidates don’t seem to particularly like each other and it’s getting personal. There’s some risk for Brown here though -- if he goes too far, he might make Warren look like a victim. There’s a fine line here. You do wonder if he needs to dial it back a little. By the way, the new tack probably means Brown’s polling shows him down.

*** Education Nation – starkly different visions: As part of NBC’s Education Nation, First Read will have a detailed look later this morning at where the candidates stand on education. The subject has peeked into the 2012 campaign with Obama's push for low-interest student loans, Romney's contrasting views (“shop around”) on how to pay for college, Obama seizing on comments Romney made on class sizes for a TV ad, and of course debate over proposed domestic cuts in the Ryan budget. But, like on so many other issues, Obama and Romney would take starkly different approaches, if elected. Obama would likely try to expand many of the same initiatives he has pursued in his first term -- a reform-minded agenda implemented largely through the Department of Education and outside the purview of Congress. That agenda includes content standards that will be implemented in at least 45 states by 2014. Obama, who has not always been in the favor of the teachers’ unions that strongly support him, would continue to try and implement reforms while working with the unions. Romney, on the other hand, takes a more adversarial approach to unions, which he sees, in large measure, as part of the problem. Romney’s plan calls for vouchers and a restructuring of funding for special-needs and low-income students that would assign money directly to individuals instead of schools and school districts.

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I have been reviewing Obama's speech to the United Nations and when it's all said and done, Romney's carping over the last couple of days is going to make him (Romney) look very small-minded and petty.

Romney is not qualified to be our nation's chief. He's too reactionary, too hysterical, too given to cataclysmic...squealing.

  • 4 votes
Reply#53 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

Obama's terrorist friends capturing, torturing, raped by Muslims, murdered and dragging our Ambassador though the streets in Libya, "was just another bump in the road!" Easy for him to say!

  • 3 votes
#53.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

Obama's words are meaningless! The only words of Obama I wish to hear is his concession speech!

  • 3 votes
#53.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

But on the other hand Steve.....Obama's a gutless disloyal moron who's only saving grace ....is that he is also incompetent......

I think Romney's our next President, Stevie But don't cry....Think of it this way:

Now at least we'll again have a Vice President who's I.Q. exceeds his neck size!!

  • 1 vote
#53.3 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

.... nowhere did Obama say the ambassador's death was a bump on the road - BE RESPECTFUL .... he was talking of the situation in the middle east .. its ONLY YOU, THE REPUBLICANS (in every post) who keep calling the deaths a "bumps on the road" ... be informed ... read all the posts ... only the republicans are calling the deaths a bump on the road .... be serious ... just go read the posts ... it's plain and simple ....can u comprehend that ????

OBAMA 2012

  • 1 vote
#53.4 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

Just stop already. Obama tossed that guy under the bus with his reaction to what happened. I'm a Independent but you liberals make me sick with your blind love. just acknowledge one failure of Obama's for me. try it just once and then you can open your eyes

  • 1 vote
#53.5 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:14 PM EDT
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Da Future! Barack’s presence and
word was now on television and radio 24/7. He said: You have nothing to Fear,
for I am the “One”. “Look into my eyes, hear my words, all who come to me will be
comforted”. God hearing his words thought of sending lightning bolts to shock
him into sanity. Upon further contemplation, God said Obama was not worth the
effort. He tried to suspend the upcoming
presidential elections, but failed. This was his only hope to stay in power, to
be a dictator for life. If Obama was a computer program, he would be an
unrecoverable error for the American People.

Note to Obamanites:
The party is over! The fighting in the streets worsened. The shedding of blood,
death, and the cries of the afflicted was everywhere. The police first used
water cannons without success on the rioters. The riots grew in intensity.
Embattled police were forced to use tear gas, rubber bullets and soon fearing
for their lives, real bullets. Many police and rioters were injured or worst.
The rioters were beyond control. The rioters seemed not to fear death. Maybe it
was the influence of drugs, alcohol or the mob mentality. Those who mistakenly
believed in Black Liberation Many conservatives voiced the prediction of
economic doom for many years if America did not drastically reduce government
spending and the massive budget deficits. President George W. Bush did his part
to move America to an economic tipping point, spending without control and a
lax casual attitude towards illegal immigration. The only good about a moderate
Republican, is that are not as bad as a progressive. President Obama in his
effort to remake an “unjust Country” accelerated the largest annual deficit
spending of his predecessor by 4 times to 1.9 trillion for the fiscal budget
year of 2010. Most of the reckless spending from the stimulus plan, auto union
and Wall Street bailouts were poorly planned and executed. The auto union in
the GM and Chrysler bailouts got the goldmine and we got the shaft. The
majority of the politicians, who voted for these bills, never read, understood
or cared of which they voted. They only voted to appease Pelosi, Reed and “The
One”. By yielding their political power, they were good little progressives. The
growing opposition of the American People to the out of control federal
spending came too late and would not deter Obama’s reckless spending. Towards
the end he was forced to reduce spending. He desperately needed bailout loans
from the World Bank. These loans came with restrictive financial strings. The
World Bank dictated financial policy for the country. All spending by the
federal government must be cut by 25% across the board and taxes increased.
This also included the salaries and benefits of all government workers, those
on Social Security and all entitlement programs. The government employee union
bosses called for a strike. Other union organizers sent their members out to
protest. The Takers started to riot. They said: “We worked for our money, you
ain’t taking it away”. Rioters overturned vehicles, broke store windows and
went on a “shopping spree”. Murder and mayhem spread throughout the cities.
Black Liberation

Theology members(Louie Farrakhan) was
leaders of the riots. They could multi-task being a community agitator while
still searching for the “Promised Land”.

  • 2 votes
Reply#54 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

This country is in grave trouble, both economic and on foreign policy, if President Obama and his half-wit VP Biden are reelected.

  • 4 votes
Reply#55 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:48 PM EDT

They got Biden on the telepromter, need to minamize the fall out.

    #55.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:12 PM EDT

    sofork

    Vice President Joe Biden's been downgraded to an "eighth-wit" since his last I.Q. test. (And that was with him staying up all night studying for it too!!)

    • 1 vote
    #55.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

    President Joe Biden is such an awful thought, it keeps the president safe from any harm.

      #55.3 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:26 PM EDT
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      The only way our military or security forces should serve under Obama, is to carry their own Nato unapproved ammo!

      • 3 votes
      Reply#56 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

      Telling readers that seniors have paid into social security and medicare and are therefore entitled to receive the benefits is similar to telling readers that income taxes support the running of the government. People who read/write their comments are not 6 year olds - we know that people are entitled to the benefits if they paid in and income taxes fund the government. Can we please have no more - I paid in therefore - I get to receive.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#57 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

      People age 55 and over will see no change in SS and Medicare under the Repubs unless Obama is reincarnated. Obama might soon bankrupt the country and all financial bets are over.

      • 4 votes
      #57.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

      One drain on social security is the special groups who have their own retirement system, such as the teachers union, and do not contribute to our total system. these same people will receive social security benefits if they worked enough quarters as a teen, while in college, or summers while employed full time.

        #57.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

        JD don't forget our elected officials they voted themselves best retirement and heathcare plans out there.

          #57.3 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:26 PM EDT
          Reply

          Obama gives Nissan $1,650,000,000 to build a few electric car batteries!
          Nissan then advertises on the evil liberal enabler, NBC
          NBC then lies and distorts for the Obamanation!
          The cycle of corruption continues!

          • 4 votes
          Reply#58 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:54 PM EDT

          If you caused an action in your personal life that resulted in the death of 3 people because of your words or your actions - you would be arrested for murder or attempted murder at the worst end or negligent homicide at the least. So why has the film writer not been arrested and charged for these crimes?

          • 1 vote
          Reply#59 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

          The film had nothing to do with the vicious musllim murder of our ambassador! This was a preplanned, well organized terrorist attack. Does the date of the murders being on 9/11 mean anything to you! It was muslim terrorist taking another victory lap, like Obama spiking the football after the seal killed(?) Osama. Why a liberal or their leader would apologize to animals after they murder Americans is beyond comprehension.You should be ashamed of yourself!

          • 3 votes
          #59.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:04 PM EDT
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          Interestin that the Dems are trying to create a so called war on women when they donate 1.5 B to the Muslim Brotherhood who treat their goats better than their multiple wives. The funnist thing is to drive around one of these countries and the goat is sitting in the front seat of the pickup and the wives are riding around in the back.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#60 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

          In some of these countries the goats are far more attractive than the women. That's why they make women cover up as much of themselves as possible.

            #60.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:35 PM EDT
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            The issue in Libya annd Egypt are circumstances of democracy. Presidents Bush and Obama and Tony Blair have taken the same stance. Imagine a country that suddenly had the controls of freedom of expression ripped off what do you think would happen? The crazies take to the streets, push the envelope. This is not an American problem it is a Libya and Egypt problem. To try to make it into an Obama problem is not only rediculous it is desperate coming from desperate partisans who see their chance at the White House slipping away each day.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#61 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

            Joe lying from the cape -
            Mubarak was a longtime friend or Israel and America. Obama ousted him and gave the country over to the muslim brotherhood.

            Libya was no threat, But Obama w/o consent of Congress, bombed their major cities, killing thousands and turned the country over to this muslim brotherhood. Obama has created a muslim caliphate destined to destroy Israel and America. The blood our our ambassador and three others is on the hands of barack and hillary. DO YOU HATE AMERICA THIS MUCH!

            • 2 votes
            #61.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:14 PM EDT

            cute nazi..... regardless who are friends with who.... freedom expression has its downside (just read most of your bigoted posts) Mubarak ,Gadaffi and all the other despots of the world had to be dealt with before they were driven from their power Unless you expected the USA to be isolationists (which would not be too much of a stretch for you) they would have been hardly called "friends" in the way the UK was for us.

            • 1 vote
            #61.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:22 PM EDT
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            Pundit shows spend too much time just BSing about poll numbers in the very parsed polling, they must think we are now a nation that needs spoon fed analysis ever hour and trivia just to entertain our lazy minds. They should get to the root of the candidates flaws and positives, investigating to show that they actually can do hard work instead of BS and spouting numbers like robots, they could put them in writing on the screen in the background or bottom under the interviewers and investigators, who should be saying creative, thought provoking stuff relating to those poll numbers possibly. For showing some real thinking and objectivity, they should bring in some statistitics experts regularly to help them understand the uncertainty and unreliability of these for the final outcomes, along with the main factors/variables that could throw the numbers out the window as crap.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#62 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

            Remember when you could not tell if the news anchor was a republican or democrat?

            When asked they would not say, they kept their personal beliefs to themselves & provided the news. They never inserted a chuckle to down grade a point, or a sly, backhanded compliment at the end of a statement to get the lemmings to follow their provided mindset. It was never inferred, "smart, intelligent people" will always see things this way, therefore if you don't you are some how stupid. Or my favorite, "everyone knows" to herd followers into their mindset.

            • 1 vote
            #62.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

            Big Bear....like it or not polls are the lifeblood of campaigns, they also change each day.... the best that polls can produce is an emergent pattern with voters. I am all for in depth reporting however judging from most posts on these blogs most people.... unlike yourself and I..... have bumper sticker mentalities if you want more substance you are singing to the choir in my case

            • 1 vote
            #62.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:30 PM EDT

            Bird and Joe, yes the polls are needed for the planners especially as a guidance tool but they are presented so much and in such biased commentary at times it appears those pundits want to manipulate the voters with the polls. I agree unbiased objective reporting is a dying art at times, remembered my high school journalism class about 40 years ago and the well loved teacher would womp your butt for editorializing outside the editorial page even the slightest, and she was the nicest person on earth... but a serious butt womper.

            I think us oldies don't let polls impress us so much just like other glaring adverstisment like crap on TV/internet, etc., I also fear that our younger folks do not have the level of filtering they need like we have developed so these things don't sway your critical thinking/analysis of candidates. I know they are as smart as we were if they got the same level of education experience we did in fact they may be sharper in some ways, but the BS is streaming out ten times faster than when we were youngsters - no watching your Ipod as you walked down the street and could daydream and ponder a bit without BS input. Sometimes I wonder if the world leaders (which could be billioinaires or trillionaires and not gov officials) will control their minds with those some day putting lies on their Ipods when they go for that slave/drones society they may be dreaming of.

              #62.3 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:38 PM EDT
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              Obama is great at running for election, leading - not so much.

              The 47% blind Obama fans will never see the difference as they chant Obama, Obama.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#63 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

              The President Speaks at the UN:

              " Oblumble's Fumbles Again!"

              Hey Hey Barack, say Hey, How many U S diplomats you going to get killed today?

              Ummmm Ummm Ummmm Barack Assine Obama.... Ummmm Ummmm Ummmmm Barack Insane Obama!!

              • 1 vote
              #64 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

              He'll speak at the UN because there are no questions, it a controlled envirnoment unlike a meeting with a world leader just before an election.

              • 1 vote
              #64.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

              The other controlled envirnoments he likes are the View and especially Letterman

              • 1 vote
              #64.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:30 PM EDT

              hesea.... he will speak to the UN because it is his job to do that... he is the President of the most powerful nation in the world for God's sake

              • 1 vote
              #64.3 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

              That job includes dealing with other world leaders, but the View is more important

              • 1 vote
              #64.4 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

              hesea.....hmm controlled environments and Romney likes uncontrolled environments?..... or better yet he likes speaking to 50 thousand dollar a plate audiences..... your post is a cheap shot all canndidates seek out audiences that are favorable thats not a Obama thing....... it is politics

              • 2 votes
              #64.5 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:36 PM EDT

              hesea... you seem to have short term memory loss Obama has been dealing with world leaders for the last 3 years and 10 months. you are just vomiting what fox news and republican commentators are trying to interject into the campaign. much like this poor attempt at dragging out a 14 year old severely edited video of the President. That did not fly and neither will this latest criticism.

              • 1 vote
              #64.6 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:40 PM EDT

              Don't think Romney is the Pres ye,t not his role. Yes all candidates seek friendly audiences, but those in office shouldn't start the process 18 months ahead f an election when we have 8 + % unemployement, and 16 T in debt.

                #64.7 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

                We don't have to back 14 years on those comments, remember Joe the plumber and Obama re-distribution comments?

                  #64.8 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

                  hesea 18 months???? I think you are stretching that a bit. 9 months maybe... if you blame the president for speaking in front of the American people prior to that...for any reason... then this shot is just as cheap as the last one.

                    #64.9 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

                    Who needs cheap shots! There is plenty of good stuff to talk about.

                      #64.10 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

                      "We don't have to back 14 years on those comments, remember Joe the plumber and Obama re-distribution comments?"

                      hesea..that comment may have been this huge eye opener for you but for the rest of us it had little effect. The McCain camp played that up way too much and it got very little traction outside the ultra conservative population which were not going to vote for Obama anyway

                      • 1 vote
                      #64.11 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

                      "Who needs cheap shots! There is plenty of good stuff to talk about."

                      thats great so lets talk about them!

                        #64.12 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

                        OK Joe let's start with Obama's plan to reduce the 16T, I know, I know about the tax the 1 %, we all know that's going to have liite effect, maybe if coupled with less spending and other taxes but other than only promtes the main agenda class warfare, distract from our real problems.

                        • 1 vote
                        #64.13 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

                        Joe you need to know I'm not a fan of either party, they both have their self interest at heart, thats why the tax codes are the way they ar,e there are weahtly in both camps. Thats why they have heir own heathcare and the best pensions they make the rules. It always amazes me though that people will support these bozos, (both parties) regardless, no indenpenant thinking, After the past dismal 4 years it's time for me to move on and if Ronmney is as inept I'll move on again.

                        • 1 vote
                        #64.14 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

                        hesea it is hard to argue with your position. 16 T is there.... regardless of what party you are affiliated with, we have seen austerity at its finest in Greece it does not work they still needed a bailout there reason; you cannot clear 12 years of debt in less than 4 years without scuttling everything. Our nation has been in a defecit much longer than the times we were not . Every time we got ourselves into a war or two wars debt will occur slashing entitlements to nothing will still not erase the debt. Obama pushed for a 1 trillion dollar reduction this year and he had plans to reduce the debt over a 10 year period. Most people cannot clear their mortgage in less than that

                        • 1 vote
                        #64.15 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

                        I know Obama tried when he had a Super majority but even his own party won't go for it. The biggest problem I have with Obama is his approach to leadership, or lack there of, there is no consensus building, mainly pit us against each other I don't get it, This seemly intentional class warfare route is doing more to slit us up and get people dug in along party lines. When there are real issues like the debt ceiling he apprears to sit on the side lines until the impass then, blame everyone. Clinto got the parties to gether this guy doesn't seem to want to. I know I going to get back it's the reps fault blah blah blah, but he his the Pres, buck stops there.

                          #64.16 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

                          Joe - I'd be interested to see just how many world leaders our President has actually met with in the last 46 months.

                            #64.17 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:22 PM EDT
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                            Joe,

                            Obama is President of the most powerful nation in the world, but he's trying very hard to change that. He's a one term loser, that history will treat like the pos he is.

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#65 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

                            histoical experts have already placed Obama as in the top 15 Presidents. history will treat this President just fine. "one term loser" based on latest polls you could be heading for a huge disappointment

                            • 1 vote
                            #65.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:52 PM EDT

                            "historical experts"

                            Would those be anything like the White House's "independent economists"?

                            I really don't care how history will treat this President. I'm more concerned with how he's treating this country.

                              #65.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:23 PM EDT
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                              The nut job President
                              of Iran, Ah mad in ejd thinks by causing mass destruction and turmoil on earth
                              it will foster the return of the twelfth Imam. This Imam after rising out of a
                              well will cure all the ills and problems on earth. It would be like a Moslem
                              fairyland. The leaders of Iran reason that losing seven million of their
                              countrymen is a good outcome to vaporize seven million Jews. Ah mad thinks that
                              is a fair trade. Hey, we have seventy million, they have seven million. Losing
                              one Iranian to kill one Jew is no problem! On a one to one comparison, Ah mad
                              has plenty of Iranians to spare.

                              The nut job President
                              of America, Bar ack O bama thinks in a similar fashion. Causing economic and
                              moral destruction of America, an era of Progressive enlightenment will also
                              arise from the ashes. This would be a Progressive fairyland. Ah mad’s savior
                              will come from the ground, mine will descend from Heaven. That’s all that needs
                              to be said! Maybe Barry climbed out of a well or a lava tube straight from
                              Hell.

                              Barack steals money from the American People to build/remodel mosques throughout
                              the Moslem world. In return the Moslems persecute and murder Christians because
                              there is no tolerance in Islam. Obama is forgiving Egyptian debt owed to
                              America and giving them reparations. He has started an Islamic Stimulus Plan
                              (Cordova) for the Moslem Brotherhood and all terrorist that will enable him to
                              destroy the “Great and Little Satan.”

                              What Muslims did not convert by the sword, they now will conquer by immigration
                              and a high birth rate. Europe, Oh Europe, how gullible are you! You allowed the
                              enemy freely into your mist. America, Oh America, how gullible are you! They
                              will build their mosques, increase in population and one day destroy the
                              country that showed them great kindness and tolerance. Allah says thanks for
                              the welfare. His people live well in America and Europe.

                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#66 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:51 PM EDT

                              I wonder how Barack is going to embarrass our Nation today?

                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#67 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

                              Tune into Letterman and find out

                                #67.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:02 PM EDT

                                Letterman is too too painful to watch... He's the most overrated non-funny talk show host in TV history. This gap toothed idiot and his bald headed side kick minimae Paul Shaffer are the most boring pair on television. They actually think their "inside jokes to one another" are actually funny and the only one laughing are the liberals in the audience that are obeying the "laugh sign" because they are afraid to look as stupid as they really are by not getting the joke that wasn't.

                                Watching Letterman is like watching someone passing a kidney stone. I almost feel sorry for the perverted scumbag when he tries being funny and just isn't and hasn't been for twenty years. No wonder President Hope Dope love to appear on his program, even that moron appears funny next to David Letterman.

                                • 1 vote
                                #67.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:09 PM EDT

                                I don't watch it either for the same reasons, just trying to let the folks know where to go for some insight from our Pres.

                                  #67.3 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

                                  I will watch him on Jerry Springer though the next time he's on. I love watching all those 47%ers in the audience taking two or three chairs at once for their fat asses.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #67.4 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

                                  Whoa, Bob. Methinks you have been misled by Mitsy-poo. Those 47% who are "victims" are not liberals at all. According to Limbaugh this morning, conservatives are the "victims" and the principal oppressor is the mainstream media. It took some remarkable mental gymnastics to weave last night's Packers-Seahawks outcome into an Obama-bashing, but Rush did it. Pointing to the obvious disappointment shared among the Packer nation, Limbaugh says "now you know how conservatives feel every day." Poor Rush. Mental stability for three hours a day is such a struggle for him.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #67.5 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

                                  Limbaugh is an irrelevant blowhard. His primary audience is Romney's "47%".

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #67.6 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:25 PM EDT
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                                  I guess just by being there looking as stupid as he always looks.

                                    Reply#68 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:02 PM EDT

                                    sorry to break up this mutual admiration post between Bob and hesea but Im curious you guys dont have any more argument left?? the last cuple of weeks must have taken a toll on you guys, well we can all look forward to the debates next week will you tune in?

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #68.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:06 PM EDT

                                    sure.... I can't wait till Romney destroys the boy who would be king's reelection plans and Ryan informs Joe Biden that "Arab Spring" is not a bathsoap made in the Middle East.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #68.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:16 PM EDT

                                    Bob- why does your side always use personal invective? Is it the fact the Pup Tent party lacks ideas and in order to boost your low self esteem use personal attacks?

                                    to attack the intelligence of any of the nominees is just foolish on your part.

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                                    #68.3 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

                                    In need of a paxil

                                    This Country's in need of a President! To attack the intelligence of one of your candidates is like attacking thin air....very thin air. It's very hard attacking something's that's just not there!

                                    But since you're asking..... where's Joe Biden's high school diploma????-

                                      #68.4 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

                                      A leader unites us, not divides us intentionaly, A leader brings opposing views together for consensus, not promte calss warfare. A leader doen't sit on the sideline during debates like the debt ceiling then blame everyone when it can't be resolved.

                                        #68.5 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

                                        Hesea, the only thing more ridiculous and comical than your 68.5 post is the ending of last night's MNF game. What's wrong with a little class warfare ~ if the right class wins?

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                                        #68.6 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:53 PM EDT
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                                        I know I know Paxill

                                        You're going to tell me that Joe Biden did actaully graduate high school but that Obummer's dog Bo ate the diploma right????

                                          Reply#69 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

                                          Thanks for proving the point Bob.

                                          Hesea- it is a fact that the Republican leadership on the day of Obama's inauguration decided to meet to devise a strategy to make Obama's Presidency a failure. Did you think 180+ filibusters were a coincidence?

                                          Leadership in our republic is a two way street. In 2001 after the devicise election who co-sponsored Bush's education issue? How many democrats voted for no child left behind.

                                          One party since the 1980's has decided only they have the answer and has consistently placed party above country Why when Foster committed suicide the republicans launced an investigation to make sure no foul play was involved- and that was 1993.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          Reply#70 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

                                          paxil you are right on target

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                                          #70.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:33 PM EDT

                                          Bob are you a closet birther???

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #70.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:40 PM EDT
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                                          While no one expects Mitt to carry New York, It would be a disservice to the New York electorate to not give them the same choice that Mitt is offering to the rest of the country.

                                          Jobs, Prosperity, self reliance, smaller, less intrusive government VS. a huge welfare state resembling Greece.

                                          Not all New Yorkers are stupid liberals.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          Reply#71 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

                                          Joseph

                                          Obama is the only one who has proposed a trillion dollar defecit reduction. The republicans denied that request so who is allowing the "welfare state" to exist

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #71.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

                                          less intrusive government

                                          Unless you are a pregnant woman ~ then the right wingers want her to spread 'em while they ram a probe up her twat. When it comes to the human crotch, there is nothing non-intrusive about conservatives. Perhaps they were either sexually abused as children or sexually deprived after puberty, but the GOP has a deep and abiding interest in reproductive anatomy, its cavities and appendages.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #71.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:59 PM EDT
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                                          ok, did you see the comment Madonna made?? Libs, what is your take on that? She is his #1 fan. Well, second, first is George Clooney.

                                            Reply#72 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

                                            pls what did the spoiled entitled brat say?

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #72.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:46 PM EDT

                                            you are making a HUGE generalization if you even think that all liberals love Madonna or that Liberals always agree with other liberals we are not like the conservative , walk in lock step narrow minded people that they are.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #72.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

                                            don't remember saying you were. As I am not a narrow minded person either. I find her comment interesting to say the least.

                                              #72.3 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:04 PM EDT
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                                              It doesn't really matter at this point. Romney needs divine intervention or some serious voter suppression to win Ohio; without that state he may as well start writing his concession speech.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              Reply#73 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

                                              he won't win Ohio, to many union voters there. They are Dems in that state.

                                                #73.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                                                Odd, isn't it? Romney-Ryan is losing big in his Mitt's home state and also in Wisconsin. (Ryan leads in his congressional district race) The states that know the candidates best are delivering a message and it seems more and more folks nationwide are listening.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #73.2 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:07 PM EDT

                                                not really odd at all. His state is very liberal (MA). Plus, the media has said nothing positive about him. So not really a surprise, most voters don't find out facts for themselves. Obama will be the winner, and that is not the outcome I want. Really neither, but for sure not him. He is a failure and we already have seen that.

                                                  #73.3 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

                                                  plsthink- over the past 20 years blue state Mass has had more Republican governors then dems- including Romney. So perhaps the problem is as Jim in Texas said- those who know them best....

                                                    #73.4 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:47 PM EDT
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                                                    How about it, spontaneous uprising or not? Was Rice and others conned or just inept on briefing the American people? Why was the first comments from the President not in response to the attack but to attack a fellow American, Mitt Romney? Why are the media still not coming forth and where is the outcry? Has any other President during such chaos went on with fund raising and TV touring???

                                                    Some can not get their fill of this 'rookie'...but he is 'the Amateur' as all the facts yell loud and clear. This President does not know what to do nor how to do it. Even the highly publicized economic team that formulated the failed recovery are all but gone... back to teaching...no reason to take the fall and lose tenure too. And his plan for re-election....no change that will bring no change. It is all about personality.

                                                    No job growth, less Americans working, borrowing 4 Billion/day, second downgrade with more coming, White House and Dept of Justice suing AZ with foreign government participation [never done before a record], refusal to enforce some laws and use of decrees to change others, a budget submitted that went down 98-0...[a record], no budget passed for over 3 years [a record]....

                                                    A re-election campaign based on deflect, deride, and divide....only in this NEW AMERICA where the new norm is not what you have done as a President but your celebrity rating and whether it is going up or down, that is what counts, it is bonkers. .

                                                    The Presidency as an institution has been set back possibly 100 years but there is one person happy, Carter, he is no longer the worst POTUS ever. I am sure he thought it would never happen in his lifetime. Just goes to show, the carnival is never over if you do not thoroughly investigate what the barker is selling.

                                                      Reply#74 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

                                                      Trust the wisdom of the vast majority of the American people. They know best as the polls undeniably show. Romney can paint his face anyway he wants but it's Obama/Biden 2012 by a landslide.

                                                      • 2 votes
                                                      Reply#75 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:58 PM EDT

                                                      Earth to moon, earth to moon. Get back to earth TGOPS. It's all over for the pale face 'Mitt the Twit' and 'Lyin' Ryan'. Said and done. Obama/Biden 2012.

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      Reply#76 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:08 AM EDT

                                                      This just in. Big O is up in the polls in North Carolina! The map is now 2008.

                                                      The problem R&R have in the debates is they actually have to answer questions. Ryan's plans are DOA, Romney just leaves you guessing what he would really do. If he evades, he looses. If he goes back to the pragmatic Romney, he has a chance. Unfortunately he would have to re-flop and reverse all the tesbag rehtoric. Obama will wipe his a...

                                                      • 2 votes
                                                      Reply#77 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:17 AM EDT

                                                      Hell, President Obama hold a strong lead in every swing state. The only way Romney can win at this point is...well, he can't win, actually. He's already lost.

                                                      President Obama in November! He is clearly our only rational choice!

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                                                      #77.1 - Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:21 AM EDT
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