Layton,

Jon Stewart says it best where Romney/Ryan is headed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km4BfW2836Y

Honestly, I have lost a lot of hope in Obama. That said, there is no way I would trust Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan to run this country. Really, Republicans? That was your best choice?

Ryan is absolutely right! Just look at the shrinking workforce, it's the size it was in 1980.

We are going in the wrong direction, economic and job growth is being outpaced by population growth.

There is plenty of opportunities for you to see when it all came tumbling down, if you cared to exercise your mind. It was not under Obamas watch. There have been grave mistakes by every President that has been in office since I have been alive. What stands out the most to me are Reagans mistakes. He is your original "trickle down" President, and he was the one that started the floodgates by granting amnesty to millions of illegals (and please don't blame that on ONE senator, or having his fingernails extracted from the "left")

Tom, I love that Clip! BS Mountain continues to grow!

CA

blatant malaise

I believe you just described the Congress. Where are all those jobs the TP's promised in 2010? I know they got rid of quite a few members and brought in some of their "ringers." What have they accomplished?????

Obama/Biden 2012

Honestly, I have lost a lot of hope in Obama.

Why, because he doesn't wipe your butt and put baby powder on it after? Seriously, why don't you look at the source which is the Republican led House which just recessed. They haven't done squat and they're are the real decision lawmakers. To make it work, they must work with the Executive branch to get bills passed that would maybe help. They've refused to work with this president. That's where the real problem is.

pj, what do you think would be bad about Romney and Ryan winning?

Exactly what has 0bama and the media told you they will do? I think you should do some old fashion studying of the candidates on their websites and see what they say they will do rather than what they and the media say the other will do.

I do plenty of "old fashioned" studying, thank you, But why would I want to study their websites? I am not interested in propaganda. I would rather see what they have done, I would rather look at their character. Romney wants to bring us back to Bush2, he wants to balance the budget by giving rich people another tax cut, do I really have to go on? What planet do you live on? Do you really want a President that speaks with such contempt of most of us, not just the "47% who want handouts and support Obama" but the huge part of the "handout crowd" that will vote for him anyway, just because he is a "Republican". The Republican Party ceased to exist when the Dixie-crats took over when Johnson signed the human rights bill, in my opinion. Where is the true fiscal responsibility? Where is the true limit government? Limiting taxes on the rich is NOT limiting government. That party has been bought out, just like the other one.

I believe you just described the Congress

them too but im sure as long it is your guy(gal), it's A-Ok huh? See congress as a whole stinks, individually its harder to root them out. You think McCain should still be hangin around? What about Reid?

Where are all those jobs the TP's promised in 2010?

Same place Obama left his laser in 08

What have they accomplished?????

Osama is dead and GM is alive?

Seriously, why don't you look at the source which is the Republican led House which just recessed.

So congress is now just HOR? sure the HOR recessed but surely the Senate has burned the midnight oil to jump start the economy. In fact where is the POTUS to work with legislative branch again?

pj

Who are the ones who are defaming the Republicans. Answer, the very people who promoted Obama.

Beware of finger pointers. They have a tendency to be hiding behind the misdirection.

I call them as I see them. I live in a state that will put its electorates to Obama. I am voting for Gary Johnson.

Why, because he doesn't wipe your butt and put baby powder on it after? Seriously, why don't you look at the source which is the Republican led House which just recessed. They haven't done squat and they're are the real decision lawmakers. To make it work, they must work with the Executive branch to get bills passed that would maybe help. They've refused to work with this president. That's where the real problem is.

Actually, that was quite uncalled for, and really dumb. You should read and digest an opinion before you spout off.

Too bad Romney has no confidence in America - I know I do and so does everyone I know. I certainly don't want a President that believes people have lost faith in our country.

elliot- as usual, you're lying. The President's jobs bill would tax companies higher that insist on outsourcing jobs, while giving tax breaks to companies bringing jobs back. It would provide jobs training for the many jobs that are out there that people are not qualified to fill.

Obama/Biden 2012

The President's jobs bill would tax companies higher that insist on outsourcing jobs, while giving tax breaks to companies bringing jobs back

so in his first term he couldnt do it, and his second term would usher in a golden age?

elliot-3020456

Ryan is absolutely right! Just look at the shrinking workforce, it's the size it was in 1980.

We are going in the wrong direction, economic and job growth is being outpaced by population growth.

The problem is that RYAN and you are ignoring the fact that REPUBLICANS are just as responsible for this problem as anyone else is.

They are trying to act like they bear no responsibility when in fact they are at least 50% responsible for where this country is headed.

Hey Ryan ...

And when you take a look at what your government’s doing to you in every nook and cranny of America, it’s not good

Aren't you currently a US Congressman and part of the government? What nooks and crannies have you helped clean up????

Obama/Biden 2012

elliot-3020456:

“Ryan is absolutely right! Just look at the shrinking workforce, it's the size it was in 1980.”

1980 = 107,105,000

2012 = 154,645,000

http://data.bls.gov

What you wrote is demonstrably false. But you and Ryan are both men of the mind, so any observation can extend far beyond the objective confines of factual validity.

Hey Elliot. I will tell you what would be wrong with Romney/ Ryan. Just look at what Scott Walker did to WI. Walker is owned by Koch Industry. Lock stock and barrel. He does just what he told to do. Romney and Ryan are owned my Koch and friends, Carl Rove and Norquest. Now that Romney is behind, he is doing like Scott Walker did, he lied trough his teeth to get in.

Romney was given a great education. But what did he take away from that. Instead of learning how to work hard and build things, the old fashion way. Mitt learned to steel and get away with it. I learned it from that guy that took over Eastern Air lines. That guy was Mitt's Mentor. Get a bunch of people to invest in your company, take that money, Buy up company's that have fully funded retirements, Load that company down with debt, then take all the money that was borrowed, Take the retirement fund, walk away from the company, let it go bankrupt. Walk away will Billions and let the tax payers pick up the peaces. Yes the Retirement he stole was picked up by the tax payers. That is what is wrong with Mitt Romney. He is a Crook, Plan and simple. He has always hated the American worker, and has shipped jobs overseas. He always talks about all the jobs he created, Ya in China and India, or any place that has slave labor. This guy supports Communist Country. for Gods sake he would rather see Communist country people working instead of Americans. He is a Union buster. He only cares about getting all he can get for himself. That 47% commit said so much about him. Someone that can afford to pay people to hid his loot so he don't have to pay taxes on it, Talking about Retired people getting the SS they worked for all there life and paid into. Mitt called that entitlement. Well these people are entitled to that money. Military people don't have to pay Federal taxes either, They are entitled as well. But the man in the middle who has never had to work a honest days work in his life, thinks he entitled to be President because he knows how to steel and get away with it. NO WAY NO HOW. AND HELL NO.

Poor Little Seizure the Pizza Taxman...so tell us again, oh big-brained one...why you are voting for Ryan/Romney? What makes your "candidate" so special?

You have chosen the one out of 10 or so Konservative Klown Kar Kandidate turds to have floated to the top of the Republican barrel to support, haven't you?

Sure you have...or will you just point to another "hypocrisy" and/or conspiracy theory in a poor emotional and ideological attempt at deflection?

PIZZA! PIZZA!

Smlfry2

Elliot - the workforce is shrinking only because your Republicans in Congress have blocked every job bill that Obama has brought to the table.

That's largely speculation. What Elliot said was simply untrue. You need to see past the falseness of Elliot's statements if you want to grasp Elliot's greater unsubstantiated point.

Galt, try to measure as a percentage of population.

We are at the workforce rate of 1980.

You should read and digest an opinion before you spout off.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I call them as I see them. If you're losing hope in one person to cure all that ails this country, then you need to be the one doing the digesting.

CA ...

EPIC FAIL. POLS DONT CARE ABOUT YOU!

Yeouch!!! That sure stung ... NOT. What's a POLS???? And man, when you get mad your grammar goes up in flames! Screaming at your computer now?

Obama/Biden 2012

Mickey - it's soooo good to have you back!

elliot-3020456

Ryan is absolutely right! Just look at the shrinking workforce, it's the size it was in 1980.

We are going in the wrong direction, economic and job growth is being outpaced by population growth.

You and Paul Ryan are absolutely wrong. First thing first. Paul Ryan is the co-conspirator with Bush 43 and other Republicans (2000 to 2006) in cutting taxes twice (the money we didn't have) for the wealthy, starting two un-wanted un-funded wars and paying for 2004 prescription benefits (again the money we didn't have). That added over 7 trillion dollars to the national debt and where was Paul Ryan and his austerity preaching then?

Now, regarding workforce, it's true that we lost 9 million jobs during this great 2008 recession and have gained only 4.2 million of that. But we created net 300K new manufacturing jobs in 4 years now and it's a first since Bill Clinton left office. We could do more, but productivity gains and squeezing more from existing workforce are preventing employers from hiring more.

We need better airports, better waterways, better ports to handle exports, better highways, roads, bridges, schools, green energy projects, etc. so that we can put people back to work, and at the same time keep the jobs at home. Only way to do it is tax the wealthy who got a plum discount in taxes during Bush era and continue to get and have numerous tax loopholes.

Summary, we are going now in the right direction with Obama at the helm, but we will go in the wrong direction if we make Romney as the Captain of the ship and elect the Republicans in Congress, that's for sure.

Just got you Galt.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/the-incredible-shrinking-labor-force/2012/05/04/gIQANXAy1T_blog.html

You are a pathetic individual.

[Mickey - it's soooo good to have you back!]

Thanks Seeking...apparently I had to share a timeout in the corner with Little Seizure...I had no idea...except for that awful smell... ;)

Yeouch!!! That sure stung ... NOT. What's a POLS???? And man, when you get mad your grammar goes up in flames! Screaming at your computer now?

im not screaming just emphasizing pols (politicians) dont care about you or me for that matter.

Mickey - it's soooo good to have you back!

You need all the help you can get, but unfortunately a rock could out perform. So I wonder if anyone including Obama can tell us why he isn't touting his accomplishments. Why would anyone vote O? Because he's a smooth operator huh? Great oration doesnt equal great policy.

Americans have begun giving up hope under President Barack Obama’s presidency.

FALSE! It is only when we look at Paul Ryan's FACE that we think there is NO HOPE.

PFFT!

I wish they WOULD GO AWAY like the rest of the "Presidential Hopefuls"

You should read and digest an opinion before you spout off.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I call them as I see them. If you're losing hope in one person to cure all that ails this country, then you need to be the one doing the digesting

And you still don't get that I support neither Obama or Romney, but I feel President Romney would be a disaster. You didn't hurt my feelings one little bit, you just made yourself look like an azz. Sorry, sonny. Do you even know who Gary Johnson is? SMH

The GOP believe is they just keep saying the same old sh!t over and over it will become true. Just like Dorthy in Oz. "There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home."

Chuck: That is the fire we need! You laid it out pure and simple, while showing the true anger of a growing number of people.

4 more 4 44

Ryan is absolutely right! Just look at the shrinking workforce, it's the size it was in 1980.

If you look in the paper, there are MANY opening for jobs! There are jobs that require that people KNOW HOW TO DO SOMETHIG, LIKE computers, nursing, technicians, etc.

Companies recruit orientals, because there not AMERICANS qualified to do those JOBS!! JOBS THAT REQUIRE SCIENCE AND MATH!!!!

iF YOU ELECT MITT ROMNEY, HE PROMISES TO CUT EDUCATION EVEN MORE, SO IF YOU THINK THAT WE ARE SUFFERING FOR LACK OF GOOD JOBS, MITT ROMNEY WILL GIVE A LESS THAN MINIMUM WAGE JOB BEING A COAL MINER!!!!!

And now, fellow Ohioans and Newsviners, just in time for the "Mitt and Paul Fantasy Bus Tour," some facts:

From "Business First." Date: Monday, August 13, 2012, 2:17pm EDT - Last Modified: Monday, August 13, 2012, 4:24pm EDT.

"Just three states added more jobs than Ohio in the last year as the state saw its nonfarm employment base grow by less than 2 percent, an analysis of U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data has found.

"The number of nonfarm jobs in Ohio, the seventh-largest state, grew from about 5.08 million in June 2011 to about 5.18 million in June 2012, according to On Numbers, which crunches federal data for Columbus Business First parent American City Business Journals Inc.

"Only California, Texas and New York state added more jobs than Ohio in that span. Those states have larger employment bases than Ohio as well."

Citation: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2012/08/13/ohio-ranked-no-4-in-job-growth-over.html

For my money, character counts in a president.

Citizen Romney and Mr. Ryan have too distant an acquaintance with the truth to deserve your vote.

lol... did he have a pretty PowerPoint slide that illustrates this? What a moron. No wonder the GOP are throwing him under the bus and getting rid of him with R'money.

elliot-3020456, you ____. Look at the same graph (labor participation rate graph) you provided. It peaked at ~ Year 2000 (just when Bill Clinton left office) and we had so-called full employment (3.8%). Then Bush 43rd (a man with an IQ of a third grader) came in and it has been downhill since then. Read my post before this and you will understand the macro reasons for that.

Obama is trying to correct that. If he didn't take the actions he took (stimulus, auto bailout, financial bailout, AIG rescue, etc.), we would be in a much deeper hole with 20% unemployment and riots in the streets. Lastly, who are the Economic Advisers that Romney has employed? The very same people (Glenn Hubbard, Vin Weber, Kevin Hassert, and Gregory Mankiw) who worked for Bush 43rd and brought us this misery we are in now.

Good PJ and although I think there should be strong 3rd party to run, we know what happened in 92'. The nation will eventually abandon this two party system. Hopefully with a more meaningful multiparty system (on the surface we already have this).

Every time Ryan smiles I see Gomer Pyle! He is soooooo like him! Have to stop watching those darned re-runs late at night!

Obama/Biden 2012

Galt, try to measure as a percentage of population

Or you could make a factually accurate statement - if you were not a man of the mind. But you are, so factual accuracy was unnecessary.

Similar to Romney's tax rate. I'd like to measure from 2007 and other dates specific.

Again, what you said was false, but it need not matter to a man of the mind such as yourself.

[You need all the help you can get, but unfortunately a rock could out perform.]

Oh yeah...there's that killer "debating" skill of yours...

Hey wait a minute...could it be? AWWWWW...isn't that cute!

Little Seizure has me on "ignore"? Could it be? NAHHHH!

He doesn't have the balls, methinks...

MSNBC quit removing my posts, I was the third comment!!!!!!! You did it yesterday as well. I thought it was just a glitch, now I know you for sure you are monitoring freedom of speech.

Was it this information, that you don't want all to see?

2008, 28.2 Million on Food Stamps

Four Years after Obama, 46.7 Million

Now that is Not Forward

Hey Tom in Springfield --

Thanks for posting that video!

It's very funny!

John Galt

What you wrote is demonstrably false. But you and Ryan are both men of the mind, so any observation can extend far beyond the objective confines of factual validity.

If you want to use numbers, you should realize why in the real world we normalize data. It is not demonstrably false, because of this normalization of data. Please refer to participation rates, not raw numbers.

http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

Above will let you figure out what you are talking about.

Got you Galt

Yes indeed you got me. An inaccurate statement, proven with the wrong year (80 v. 81), not source data and an obviscating run from your initial false statement. You got me the proof that you are indeed a man of the mind.

"Economists say the story is considerably more complicated. For one thing, the trend predates President Obama. And while part of the story is clearly that the labor force is shrinking because the bad economy is driving workers out, another significant factor is that baby boomers are beginning to retire early — a trend that has worrying implications for future growth."

Men of the mind are selective in their reading in addition to their writing.

Eliot, Ceasar, DB and the rest of you Obama haters. Please tell me why Romney/Ryan is your choice. I would appreciate an answer other than that you hate Obama. Show us that some actual thought has gone into your decision. What have R & R done or said that make you think "Two thumbs up"?

[MSNBC quit removing my posts, I was the third comment!!!!!!! You did it yesterday as well. I thought it was just a glitch, now I know you for sure you are monitoring freedom of speech.]

SafeWay is having a sale on tin foil this week...I'd say you're about 500 feet short...have no fear, Little Seizure has some, but you'll have to wrassle him for it...

[Was it this information, that you don't want all to see?]

2008, 28.2 Million on Food Stamps

Four Years after Obama, 46.7 Million

Uhm, no...this info is readily available virtually everywhere on the internet, but COMPLETE with the reasons WHY...

...you seem to have conveniently left that part out of your post...just sayin'...

Mickey, Mickey...my bad...yesterday a post was lost, thus I thought it happened again.

No matter the reasons for the food stamp massive increase...bottom line... the savior is far from having saved.

Galt,

so are you saying that we don't have a shrinking workforce the size it was in 1980 and economic and job growth being outpaced by population growth?

Please tell me why Romney/Ryan is your choice

I have before. but Im not going to explain it again, just simply he will better represent me and mine better than the current. If this isn't acceptable to you, Im sorry. I imagine that is still lightyears ahead of the I voted for Obama the first time and now i feel obligated to do so again approach. Quit parroting Mick though, that guy (or gal so i've heard) can't explain why O. Its not so much for hating Obama, his policies suck. I shouldnt have to explain that, its evident by his lack of running on his record. Why is that? He wants a second term but I am pressed to explain why Romney? You demand actual thought why your side reverberates Obama like sheep.

Kim, All i want in a president is one who will make the US the most business friendly environment in the world. Right now we are one of the most unfriendly, Romney wants to get the government out of the way in many aspects and allow for economic growth. Right now we have a GDP growth rate around 1.4%, it needs to be at 4% or better if we want to get out of this mess.

Jesse-Az "Please refer to participation rates, not raw numbers."

Why? Did Elliot initial statement refer to participation rates?

The facts, despite the right wing idiots stupid comments here, it is congress not Obama that does the spending. Congress holds the check book. All Obama can do is suggest a budget, and approve a budget. It is not his fault. With the congress obstructing anything that might benefit this country there isn't much hope of warding off a debt crisis.

Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law but it was a bipartisan effort of congress to get it passed, trade agreements do open markets and in NAFTA's case it half works. If you stand at the Canadian border and count trucks you would understand. Again it is the greedy corporations that moved our jobs to Mexico, not Bill Clinton, nor congress, and not Obama. I threw that in because some teapublicans would try and find a way to blame him for NAFTA like they blame him for the debt run up by the republican presidents that preceded him. Yes, Bill Clinton had it turned around, and had a path to pay down the debt until George W. Bush squandered the budget surplus that Clinton had built. For the slime that blame Obama for Bush's mess, its time to get real and realize that Romney will return us to the failed policy of George W. Bush and will not be in any way good for this country. Vote Obama if you want this country to get well.

so are you saying that we don't have a shrinking workforce the size it was in 1980 and economic and job growth being outpaced by population growth?

Yes. I am indeed saying the workforce is in fact larger than it was in 1980. I will also say now it is smaller than it was in 2007. I say this because I have looked that the data.

I have not said that economic growth has outpaced population growth. But if you want to specify a period I could easily be in a position to make a factually accurate statement on that matter. I can also say that historically, national population growth has been less than 1.5% and GDP growth has been greater than 1.5%. As far as, job growth I would need to look at actual numbers for a specific period. I don't know those facts and can't accurately make them up, despite being a heroic fiction reporter. I would need to obtain facts.

Perhaps you as a man of the mind have an intellectual shortcut.

FYI, Jesse-Az is trying to help you run from your clearly inaccurate
initial statement. That's how men of the mind work collectively together.

And a man of the mind might not see the special genius in moving to participation rates while simulataneously mentioning population growth and economic growth.

[No matter the reasons for the food stamp massive increase...]

Oh, but it DOES matter, don't you think? Shouldn't we have ALL the facts when making a blanket statement such as yours, not just silly political talking points? All you have to do is read "caesars" posts for those...he gets a fax every morning, then posts from work all day...on his bosses' dime no less...

Anyhoo...

So, your homework for tonight is to do some research as to the reason(s) why food stamp enrollment is at an all time high...and for extra credit please research just who is affected by food stamps.

There will be a test tomorrow.

All Obama can do is suggest a budget

yep and not even then can that get through. Congress submits a budget but what the 'leftwing idiots' dont realize Senate is a part of that Congress. We have a President that won't work with congress to help get a budget passed.

What is Obama's resume look like the last 4 again? Uniter huh?

Independent Thought ...

MSNBC quit removing my posts, I was the third comment!!!!!!! You did it yesterday as well. I thought it was just a glitch, now I know you for sure you are monitoring freedom of speech

Your post is still there but you're number 4 and not 3 . . . . scroll ..... ;-)

Obama/Biden 2012

You didn't hurt my feelings one little bit, you just made yourself look like an azz.

Well I guess sincerity isn't welcome in your world. So I made a mistake. And using the term azz puts you at the same vocabulary level as someone like Caesar Augustus, ie; lightbulb is not too bright.

Do you even know who Gary Johnson is?

Yup. Someone who will never be taken as a serious political candidate anytime soon. Most people don't want to live by 18th century ideals.

There will be a test tomorrow.

HAHAHA TOO FUNNY

OH BAH MUH.

[What is Obama's resume look like the last 4 again?]

Aww look...the coward is deflecting again....

So, "caesar"...why is Ryan/Romney your ticket? Or are you a "Paulie"...

You know, they say a vote for Paul is a vote for Obama...so what ever will you do? You aren't voting for Ryan/Romney, right? Because it seems that way...you can't seem to bring yourself to defend him from all these horrible terrible "librul lefty" attacks, right?

Or are you a closet Obama supporter simply because you know damned well you are far better off with him in office that Ryan/Romney or Paul?

Hmmm...you have your head caught between a rock and a hard place, don't you...

Sure you do...

Or maybe you'll just stay home on election day?

[HAHAHA TOO FUNNY]

Yeah, cause see...women and children on food stamps is funny, right taxman?

Maybe YOU care to answer the question?

Nahh...what was I thinking...you're just a coward and weak...you wouldn't...you couldn't...answer the question, right?

PIZZA! PIZZA!

OH BAH MUH!!!!!!

Nahh...what was I thinking...you're just a coward and weak...

now we know you dont think. who you trying to fool...OH BAH MUH!!!

you can't seem to bring yourself to defend him from all these horrible terrible "librul lefty"

nothing to defend lass. OH BAH MUH RECORD! LOL @ YOU

OH BAH MUH

TOO FUNNY and its free from NOO YAWK

People would have to be completely hopeless to vote for Romney/Ryan.

We're on track to create 12 new jobs in the next 4 years without doing anything else. Imagine how much better it will be without the treasonous obstructionist republicans who put their own lust for power above the needs of the American people.

Poor Seizure...still deflecting. And denigrating women and children on food stamps.

I understand...it's just oh so sad.

It's all you have.

It's all cowards have.

PIZZA! PIZZA!

Paul Ryan’s top-down budget plan is a sham!

Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney both support trillions in budget-busting tax cuts for millionaires that will result in tax hikes on the middle class and deep cuts in education and other investments we need to grow. Ryan’s extreme budget plan, which Mitt Romney has embraced, would make deep spending cuts now to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy, which would weaken the recovery and cost the economy jobs.

According to Harvard economist Jeffrey Liebman, based on Mitt Romney’s own projections on the impact of deep spending cuts on the economy, Paul Ryan’s budget plan could cost the U.S. more than 1 million jobs.

Paul Ryan’s plan would raise taxes on the middle class and cut taxes for the wealthy

Ryan’s extreme budget plan would benefit the wealthy while raising taxes on middle-class families, slowing our economic recovery and hurting seniors and the middle class.

Deep tax giveaways for the wealthy:

Paul Ryan’s extreme budget includes a tax “reform” plan that would make the
Bush tax cuts for the wealthy permanent, and give millionaires an additional
tax cut worth over $250,000 a year. Paying for these tax cuts for the most
fortunate families would require higher taxes on the middle class, gutting
investments in our future, and ending Medicare as we know it.

Raise taxes on the middle class:

Just like Mitt Romney’s tax plan, middle-class families could pay thousands of
dollars more a year in taxes to help fund tax cuts for millionaires. Ryan would
cut or eliminate middle-class tax deductions like mortgage interest, charitable
contributions, and health premiums.

Paul Ryan’s plan would gut middle-class investments

To pay for tax cuts for the wealthiest, Paul Ryan would gut investments critical to middle-class security. This includes cutting Pell Grant scholarships for nearly 10 million students, cutting clean energy investments by 19%, and slowing scientific and medical research by eliminating tens of thousands of grants.

Paul Ryan’s plan would end Medicare as we know it

Paul Ryan’s extreme budget would end Medicare as we know it, turning it into a voucher program which would increase seniors’ health costs by $6,350 a year. Ryan has also proposed a plan that would have privatized Social Security, subjecting seniors’ retirement security to the whims of the stock market.

Paul Ryan is severely conservative

Like Mitt Romney, Ryan’s severely conservative positions are out of touch with most Americans’ values. He would take us backward on women’s health and equal rights.

Paul Ryan would take us backward on women’s health:

Ryan cosponsored a bill that could ban in-vitro fertilization, as well as many
common forms of birth control, including the pill. It could also ban all abortions, even in cases of rape or incest. He supported letting states prosecute women who have abortions and doctors who perform them.

Paul Ryan would take us backward on equal rights:

Ryan voted against the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which helps women fight
for equal pay for equal work. He voted against repealing the discriminatory
policy of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” and supports writing discrimination into the
Constitution by amending it to ban gay marriage.

Lying Ryan is a Pathological Liar

Hey Lying Ryan how about those marathon minutes?

Ryan say's people have given up hope under Obama but fails to explain how they'd regain it under R & R. They need to explain how following the policies of Bush of tax cuts for the rich and increased military spending will do better than Obama when under Bush we averaged 143,000 jobs created a year which is barely better than Obama's for each month. It didn't work before and they don't even try to explain why it'd work now.

I understand...it's just oh so sad.

methinks not, you dont understand defender and challenger for starters.

Well I am not going to defend a challenger when the Incumbent can't even run oh his record. You defend that. if calling me a coward makes you feel better fine. If my answers are unsatisfactory are fine. if you think i denigrate women and children on food stamps fine. It wont make it any more true.

Good luck with voting for Obama just cuz.

Jesse-Az “Above will let you figure out what you are talking about”

Care to answer my question regarding Elliot’s initial statement and continue man of mind?

Despite not being a man of the mind such as you, I have some familiarity with the BLS website. I distinguish between quantities and percentages.

Witchking,

Don't forget that Ryan/Romney will also cut programs. The same programs that middle and lower income families count on to make their budgets stretch to the end of each month. This will cost them more and is, in effect, a stealth tax hike on the middle (not $250,000 Mitt, try 50-60k) and lower income earners.

Top 5 Worst Things About Paul Ryan's Record

1. Paul Ryan authored budget proposals that would end Medicare as we know it. His budget proposal would repeal health care reform, sticking seniors with the bill and leaving their health care at risk. This is especially problematic for women, who make up fifty-six percent of Medicare beneficiaries.

2. Paul Ryan’s budget plan would have cut SNAP grants by 18%. SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) grants, also known as food stamps, has kept 3.9 million Americans (equivalent to the entire population of Oregon), including 1.7 million children, out of poverty, and allowed them to keep their families from going hungry. This plan also would have drastically cut jobs, leaving 174,000 people out of work.

3. Paul Ryan is bad for women. He voted for a bill that would have effectively banned abortion coverage by insurers who received federal or taxpayer funding. This bill, which Ryan favored, would have allowed anyone involved to refuse to perform an abortion for any reason, even if the life of the woman needing the abortion was in danger.

4. Paul Ryan is extremely anti-choice. Paul Ryan voted for the Protect Life Act, which grants hospitals far-reaching powers to deny women abortion care, without any exception for emergency situations. US law currently requires hospitals receiving federal funds to provide emergency care to anyone in need up to the point at which they can be stabilized or transferred, if the original hospital is incapable of providing the care they need. "The misnamed Protect Life Act is about allowing women to die if they need an emergency abortion," said Meghan Rhoad, women’s rights researcher at Human Rights Watch. "It is a vicious attack on women’s rights and on the most basic right to life.’”

5. Paul Ryan wants to defund Planned Parenthood. This ideological attack would only result in more women losing access to necessary and basic health care. One in five American women have used Planned Parenthood health services.

There you have it. While Mitt the TWIT Romney parades Paul Ryan around as his pick to be first in the line of succession to the presidency, you now have the facts. Paul Ryan has a long history of voting against affordable health care and women’s health. His legislative priorities leave millions of people at risk of losing their health care and in medical and financial danger. Combined with Mitt Romney’s bad policies, it’s clear: the Romney/Ryan ticket is bad for women and families.

Not to mention the Man is a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR IN NEED OF PROFESSIONAL HELP!

Tell me libs, is obama going to run on his record soon?

I am voting on Obama's record!

...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.

April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.

DJIA Dec 26, 2008 8515
DJIA Sep 24, 2012 13558

Dec 29, 2008 (Bloomberg) U.S. corporate earnings fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.

May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.

Nope, that's not a vote for Romney/Ryan!

What is Amazing is the select few number of Naive Americans who have

beenConned/Fooled by the republicanCrimeCartelPropagandaMachine. Think about

it... These Very Well monied, SnakeOil Saleman, MittTaxPittanceRommel and his
SideKick, Eddie Munster, are The Elitist Thug's economic Hitters Who
Caused This
Whole Disaster Starting with President Reagan and Most Assuredly
Pronounced with
KingGeorge The VacuumBrained during his NOTORIOUSLY SHAMEFUL
Shrubber Reign
2001- 2008. These two Amoral Politaphiles are into Contolling
and Manipulating
America in their favor, ACTUALLY Stealing America's
economic power. Research It:
These Republican 1-10% wealthy and corporate
Thieves have OVER $20 Trillion
Dollars, Our Money Stolen From US with Phony
Bank Fees and out and out Acoount Looting, Stashed in Overseas accounts in their
names and registration numbered
foreign accounts. Money needed for
rebuilding America NOT Bloating their elitist
"family wealth" for the future
of their "Little Darlings" SUCH AS Rommels
$48,000,000 Malibu Mansion WITH
an
InHouse Car Elevator for his son's
$180,000 Ferrari. Prez O is the
ONLY Choice. These Elitist rich Thugs calling
themselves "republicans"
belong in Prison NOT in Congress or The WhitHouse.Try
this one on for size:
President Harry Truman in 1948: "The Republicans … will
try to make people
believe that everything the Government has done for the
country is
socialism. They will go to the people and say: "Did you see that
social
security check you received the other day—you thought that was good for
you,
didn't you? That's just too bad! That's nothing in the world but socialism.

Did you see that new flood control dam the Government is building over there
for
the protection of your property? Sorry—that's awful socialism! That new
hospital
that they are building is socialism. Price supports, more socialism
for the
farmers! Minimum wage laws? Socialism for labor! Socialism is bad
for you, my
friend. Everybody knows that. And here you are, with your
new
car, and your
home, and better opportunities for the kids, and a
television set—you are just
surrounded by socialism! Now the Republicans
say, 'That's a terrible thing, my
friend, and the only way out of this
sinkhole of socialism is to vote for the
Republican ticket.'" And, AND!,
AND!!! that was 64 Years Ago!!!. The
republicanCrimeCartel is still doing
the same exploitation of people THEY ARE
NOTORIUS FOR. BUT, according
toKingGeorgeTheVacuumBrained, it is called "free
market" capitalism; with
families in the streets and 25% Unemployment and worse
with
MittTaxPittanceRommel and his buddy EddiMunster. Fellow and Sister

Americans: A vote for ANY republicanCrimeCartelSoldier, Rommel, is a vote

Against Yours and Your Family's Well Being. You Can Take That Advice To The

Bank. Rommel: "That 47% WHO depend on the government- I DON'T CARE ABOUT
THEM. I care about the 1-10%Evil Rich and EVIL EVIL Corporate Rich B@$T@RD$ Like
ME*ME* ME*ME!!! Sister and Brother Americans Rommel and EddiMunster ARE NOT "The
Dynamic Duo" Without A Doubt THEY ARE the DISGUSTING Duo. At Election time
Listen to that InnerVoice, You're Guardian Angel; Let's KEEP Prez O Around the
WhiteHouse; otherwise "Those Two" and their Pals will "CLEAN HOUSE" With US
Payin' The Freight.

Here's what we're worried about, elliot:

From the Washington Post:

Ryan says his plan will be "revenue neutral" to current policy. That means it will raise about the same amount of money as the current tax code. But it also "repeals the AMT, condenses the rate structure of the individual income tax to just two rates of 10 and 25 percent, and lowers the top corporate tax rate to 25 percent."

In the accompanying text, the Bipartisan Policy Center is clear on what that means. "In order to remain revenue-neutral, nearly every tax expenditure would have to be eliminated." I don't believe that Ryan is going to eliminate nearly every tax expenditure, nor that it would be a good idea if he did.

I'd perhaps feel differently if Ryan had a history of voting to pay for tax cuts, or voting to trim tax cuts that couldn't be paid for. But he doesn't. He voted for the Bush tax cuts without demanding offsets. He voted to extend the Bush tax cuts without demanding offsets. He voted to repeal the House's "PayGo" rule, which says both new spending and new tax cuts need to be paid for, and to replace it with the "CutGo" rule, in which spending cuts need to be paid for and tax cuts don't. And, while he's told the Congressional Budget Office to assume revenue neutrality, he pointedly did not include even a single offset for the tax plan in his budget.

If you assume Ryan's tax plan would not be paid for, then it only raises 15.5 percent of GDP in revenue, and Ryan's plan is the single most fiscally irresponsible plan on the graph.

The question then is how should we in the media report on Ryan's plan? Do we use the revenue numbers he tells us to assume, despite the fact that he offers no path for reaching those numbers, and despite the fact that he and his party have a long history of choosing tax cuts over deficit reduction? Or do we use the policy changes on the page, in which case Ryan's plan is wildly fiscally irresponsible?

I don't have a good answer. I'm not comfortable dismissing what Ryan says he'll do. But I'm not comfortable assuming that he's going to do something he's never done before, that the Republican Party is ideologically uninterested in doing, and that would be nearly impossible to get done. Which is why I'm uncomfortable with the graph, and with the tendency folks have to treat the Ryan budget's deficit reduction as settled fact.

At the very least, people should know that when they hear about the Ryan plan's deficit reduction, those numbers are assuming that Ryan, who has thus far refused to name even one tax break that he would get rid of, has either eliminated almost every expenditure in the tax code, including the capital gains tax break and the home mortgage interest deduction, or he's sacrificed his tax cuts.

Talk about buying a pig in a poke!

Obama/Biden 2012
The only sane choice

Only terrorists and idiots will be voting for Obamanation.

Save America!

Romney / Ryan 2012

Real Americans:

You quote the Washington Post???? Geezus, wht don't you just quote the DNC Playbook...they're both about equally objective!@

German - And WORKING Americans.

If R&R is your idea of "saving" America, you're seriously deluded.

spider - The Washington Post has won numerous Pulitzers and is one of the best examples of investigative journalism left in America.

Did you even bother to read the article?

Yeah? So can you explain how Ryan's budget is anything other than fairy dust and pig poop?

spider's still mad because the Washington Post took down Nixon.

A couple of terms to explain that are used in the article below. "Neo-liberal" or Neo-liberalism" as used in this article is what economists call "Free-market" economics. Neo-liberalism has been dominant among economists and policy makers (including BOTH the Republicans and Democrats) since the late 1970's.

From about 1933 till the late 1970's the dominant economic ideology was "Keynesian" economics, named after economist John Maynard Keynes

Neo-liberal policies are "Supply Side": cutting taxes on business and the rich, deregulation, privatization, no minimum wage, anti-unionism, lowering wages and benefits for working people, etc. to make businesses "more competitive" etc.

Keynesian policies are "Demand Side": raising wages for working people so they have the money to buy things and stimulate the economy which creates other jobs. Policies include: Pro-union, progressive taxation: high taxes on rich, government sets minimum wage, social programs like Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment Insurance, large public sector (post office, forest service, community planning, etc).

Both Romney and Obama are economic Neo-liberals (sometimes Obama talks like a Keynesian but his actions have been overwhelmingly Neo-liberal as were Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter before him)

SEPTEMBER 24, 2012

Why It's a Distinction Without a Difference

Who Will Create More Jobs: Romney or Obama?

by FRANKLIN C. SPINNEY

My prediction: The eventual answer will turn out to be a distinction without a difference. Here’s why.

Both political parties and their candidates for President now accept neoliberal [Free-market] ideology as being the incontrovertible truth. This belief is more theological than scientific, because neoliberalism has a thirty year track record of not producing the high-paying jobs for the middle class its promisers say it will produce. Quite the reverse would be a more accurate description.

According to neoliberal dogma, the only way to stimulate the growth of high-paying jobs for Americans is to unleash the private sector by getting government off the back of business. Therefore, given this truism, the government’s economic purpose is simply to make it easier for the private sector to invest in productive capacity at home — or to use a popular but vacuous buzzword: to invest in the ‘supply side’ of the economy.

To this end, the neoliberal policy soup always includes a mix of tax cuts to the investor class, investment incentives and (de)regulations to make life easier for big business, and austerity economics by federal and state governments. Examples include regressive tax cuts, deregulation of oppressive externalities (like environmental protections), union busting (to make wages more flexible on the downside), wage stagnation (no increases in the minimum wage), policy incentives encouraging financialization to increase flexibility of the investor class (rescinding Glass-Steagall), and cutting deficits via offsetting cuts in Federal, State, Local government spending, especially social safety-net programs, while protecting defense production, etc.

After over thirty years of trying and failing to create high-wage, middle-class jobs with various mixes of neoliberal snake oil, one might think neoliberal economics would be an issue in the current campaign for president, particularly in view of the fact that each candidate is claiming only he can create jobs. The mismatch between past predictions and performance is mind boggling. Even a superficial look at economic data collected by the Bureau of Labour statistics suggest that the real world behaves very differently from that imagined by the high priests of neoliberal theology…

http://www.counterpunch.org

Pelosi says more taxes for workers. Working Americans are gonna see half or more of their check go to the govt. if obamanation is re-elected.

How are they going to take music lessons and all the other wonderful things she said they should do if they have to worry about taxes?

Hey, Babydoll. :) Replied to your msg.

Pelosi is a fake. She pretends to care about common folks when in actuality she doesn't give a crap about anybody but herself. ooops, I think I just described ALL liberals lol.

But CubsFan is WONDERFUL:)

Lol! You've got Pelosi and the Libs dead-on. But if anybody's wonderful, it's a certain Pennsylvanian Yankee fan. ;)

mmmmm, I love the Yankees, and a scary dog;)

Paul Ryan is partially right, COHERENT Americans have certainly lost hope under Obama.

Betcha I love you more than you love the Yanks. ;)

It's unfortunate that so many people are losing hope. People who have lost hope give up fighting. And that's what the Democrats bank on.

That would be a close call;)

For the sake of America's kids I hope that the coherent Americans outnumber the obama zombies at the polls.

Things could be worse, re-elect Obama and you'll find out. He has no stickin plan, just rhetoric, rhetoric, rhetoric.

Ha, no it wouldn't. The Yanks wouldn't even be able to come close, believe me. ♥

And I think they do outnumber them. Our ranks are growing every day, and theirs are shrinking. No matter what the election polls are saying, Romney is pulling out in front.

Thank god, whichever one you want lol. Maybe my yard signs are working lol.

Well I guess sincerity isn't welcome in your world. So I made a mistake. And using the term azz puts you at the same vocabulary level as someone like Caesar Augustus, ie; lightbulb is not too bright.

You have no leg to stand on when you claim that someone is not too bright. Aren't you the fool, azz person that commented without reading or comprehending? Didn't you make a statement without understanding my view? Yes, you are an azz, and your vocabulary level is pretty dim.

Gem, Lol. I got almost thirty signatures Saturday from folks who are taking yard signs in my area. It's encouraging.

PJ, you are responding toooooooooooo.........whom?

Think I'll head off for the night, Gem. Love you. :) See you tomorrow.

Yup. Someone who will never be taken as a serious political candidate anytime soon. Most people don't want to live by 18th century ideals.

Um, ok, so you are another rube. GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!

PJ, you are responding toooooooooooo.........whom?

Obviously, not you. Carry on.

Moi aussi Cubs. Bon soir et Je t'aime.

CubsFan2012 ...

I got almost thirty signatures Saturday from folks who are taking yard signs in my area. It's encouraging.

Yep, backing a continually losing team and endorsing thieves .... way to be a proud American. GAG!

Obama/Biden 2012

Yep Plop Ryan, people are losing so much hope that the President's poll

ratings increase every week. Poll aggregators RCP and 538 have the President

at the largest margins ever and with the debates coming, the deathly dagger of

electoral doom will eviscerate the Teapublican dumbnamic duo.

Your tour of Ohio just reminds people there that you wanted the auto industry

(and their jobs) to die, while the President saved them.

T. Money Trim/A Play Run- "Could someone help me with the window

on the G5?"

GOP, remember when your candidate said:

"If you are not with us you are against us."

I was against you then and I am against you now.

Recent GOP candidates are not qualified to be President and Vice President of the United States.

Sorry Mr Ryan, but a vast majority of Americans believe that President Obama is our ONLY hope to save the country from you and your kind. I HOPE you understand.

Obama/Biden 2012

Ryan's mom says my sons favourite toy was a yoyo and he's still plays with it today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With a sqicky voice "When is Obama going to run on his record"

Answer: PRESIDENT Obama is running on his record of saving the economy from total collapse. Creating more jobs than bush did with his 8 years in office. President Obama is running on a Jobs plan you teabags killed. President Obama is running on ending the war in iraq, Killing Bin Liden. President Obama is running on saving the United States Auto Industry, when your Mittwitt said and wrote about letting the Auto Industry JUST DIE.

As a matter of fact Mittwitt told you to JUST KISS HIS AZZ and so am I

I'm Solutions539 I approve this message.

President Obama 2012

Best post of the above, by Larry:

Ryan say's people have given up hope under Obama but fails to explain how they'd regain it under R & R. They need to explain how following the policies of Bush of tax cuts for the rich and increased military spending will do better than Obama when under Bush we averaged 143,000 jobs created a year which is barely better than Obama's for each month. It didn't work before and they don't even try to explain why it'd work now.

As to those who support Romney - I've yet to see any justification other than blind and usually unfounded hatred of Obama for not fixing Bush's mess fast enough. It's truly amazing. How can you have the failure of Hoover's anti-middle class, pro-rich policies, the failure of Reagan-Bush's anti-middle class, pro-rich policies, and the failure of Bush-Jr's anti-middle class, pro-rich policies, and there are still so many middle class people saying "Let's do it again, maybe something else will happen."

Meanwhile, you forget the prosperity of the 1990s, the surplus, the expectation that we would have zero debt by 2011!

I've never seen a clearer choice between success and failure, yet there are so many on the right opting for failure yet again.

The only hope left for this country is if Obama gets defeated. Obama is by far the worst president ever, and only liberals can justify him.

Our economic problems didn't happen overnight. It's been happening over the past 15-20 years, but the economy was kept going by middle class Americans tapping into the equity on their homes until they were completely tapped out.

It shouldn't be all about Democrats or Republicans! It should be about doing the right thing for our country and the majority of its citizens. I consider myself an independent voter, but going back to the Reagan days and with the only exception having been Perot, I’ve always voted Republican. But all this single-minded, left versus right, ideological one dimensional bull has got to go! This is the problem with our country. It shouldn't be about Democrats or Republicans! It should be about Americans, especially our elected officials, doing the right thing for our country and its citizens.

Both parties have sold out the bulk of the American citizens, who they're supposed to represent, by allowing the "out-sourcing" floodgates to open wider and wider without taking any sensible measures to stem the tide. (Under Clinton jobs to China, Under Bush I & II influx of illegals or cheap easily abused labor into the US and jobs to Mexico/NAFTA) Our leaders are elected by the Citizens of the United States of America to represent the interests of those citizens and the country itself. They are NOT elected by the Global Market Place or foreign citizens!

We need whoever wins the next election to Start Protecting American Jobs and do whatever it takes to bring back the jobs they let go. They've got to give us somebody who will stand up for the American people.

We need to bring manufacturing back to the United States of America and both parties are ignoring tariffs as a way to level the playing field, raise money and bring jobs back home. Let's guess why. Oh that's right, tariff is a dirty word. Hum, maybe it’s that our so called leaders (political leaders) are beholden to the same people who are exporting our jobs.

I guess we should keep letting Corp Boards, Wall Street, CEOs and Foreign Lobbyists promote sending US jobs to countries where they work for slave wages, no benefits, no OSHA safety standards or no real environment regulations. How's that been working for us?

The so called “Global Market Place” is not a level playing field. Companies may have made higher profits by "out sourcing", but they've been putting middle class Americans who are a good part of the world’s customer base out of work. I’m not a lefty or member of any union. I run a business that employs over 20 people and produces products that are purchased by customers that do manufacturing and packaging. I’m just an average Joe, but I've been saying this for more than 10 years now. If I can see it, so can our so called leaders (political leaders) who are beholden to the same people who are exporting our jobs.

We need to add tariffs that are proportionate to the inequities in wages and regulations in the country where the goods were produced and or where we’re importing them from. We could then use the money raised by these tariffs to help companies build state of the art manufacturing plants here in the USA, which would create more jobs here at home for US citizens, which would then in turn increase our income tax revenue.

The people with all of the excuses as to why we can’t or aren’t willing to manufacture products here in the US are the same people who have provided us with the thinking that’s gotten us into this mess in the first place.

Over the past 15-20 years, I've seen too many of our customer's close manufacturing plants here in the USA and move those plants to different countries, decimating entire areas here in OUR COUNTRY. And I'm not alone. Returning jobs to American Citizens will provide income tax revenue to OUR Government versus our government having to pay unemployment benefits to those who would be jobless instead.

Bringing manufacturing back to the US not only gives jobs to the US citizens who would be working in those manufacturing facilities, but to the people that would be working in the businesses that would spring up all around them. This should also include the safe harvesting, production and distribution of our own natural energy here in the USA, rather than paying for fuel from countries where they hate us. Let’s keep that money and those jobs here in the US.

These so-called “free trade agreements” have to go. It was obvious when they were passing these agreements as to what was going to happen and sure enough it did. Our leaders had to have known this as well when they were passing these bills. It’s just common sense. We also need to bring customer support services back to the United States of America and staff them with employees who are US Citizens.

The “Global Market Place” is not a level playing field! The whole idea of the tariffs is so we can pay our factory workers a decent wage and not be blown out by these other countries where they don’t play by the same rules.

We may have to pay a bit more for products made here in the USA by US citizens, but at least we'll still have jobs and a future for our children.

The bottom line is that “Our Government” has to protect American industry and the jobs that those industries provide. If they do that, the rest will take care of itself.

CubsFan - Are you a guy? If so - contact GermanGem on a more personal level because she is probably looking for another sugar daddy. You two sound like a match made in heaven. Not much substance.

Correction -

United States of America

thetotas

Correction -

United States of America

not in their world, its Obama's. Remember he built that LOL

Remember he built that LOL

and thanks for dumbing down the conversation.

and thanks for dumbing down the conversation.

That's not difficult. Consider the source, lol.

and thanks for dumbing down the conversation.

my favorite little religous bigot blesses us. I'm pretty sure RedDev opened the conversation on a low bar. I notice you two followed after me. and added so much insight. Thanks ladies

religous bigot

again, if I state or quote what a person / religion believes. that does not make me a bigot. bigot; a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.

Not my opinion not a bigot.

That's not difficult. Consider the source, lol.

that's right tony, augustus is just trolling, that's what he dose best.

so are you saying that we don't have a shrinking workforce the size it was in 1980 and economic and job growth being outpaced by population growth?

Right! The only thing that would make me lose hope is having Ryan's misogynistic, parasitic self as VEEP!

again, if I state or quote what a person / religion believes

it was intent and now your just lying to look like a victim. Tell me Kolob if the LDS talk about that openly or did you just spend too much time on wiki?

that's what he dose best.

yep i dose. you're the same goof that tried to insult me with correcting my spelling before while three misspellings like the one above in one sentence. Perhaps Chris should be holding the mugshot placard.

Speaking of trolling Chris, care to kick down some knowledge or are you just hoarding it LOL. maybe this politics stuff aint for you. perhaps a spelling bee

[...maybe this politics stuff aint for you...]

Yeah, cause see...taxman is all about the "debate", right Seizure?

Be careful Chris...he has him some "killa debating skillz"...

Isn't that right, Pizza Boy?

Tell me Kolob if the LDS talk about that openly....

what? what are you talking about? is there a point in that broken sentence.

If I understand your question, Google it.

www.mormonhandbook.com/home/kolob.html

so if I am a religious bigot, that makes you (agustus) AN EFFING IDIOT.

Mickey, your not kidding on those debating skill that agustus displays.

good afternoon.

Hey LITTLE Caesar ---Pizza Boy

I've read a lot of your posts and

Don't you every get tired of making a fool of yourself day after day?

This is a REALLY SMART Republican. You guys picked him. Wow!!

Romney Doesn’t Understand Why You Can’t Roll Down Windows On A Plane

By Annie-Rose Strasser on Sep 24, 2012 at 2:05 pm

Fire fighters board Ann Romney's plane

On Monday, Mitt Romney offered a remedy to the problem that caused his wife’s airplane to land prematurely last week: Allow passengers to roll down the airplane windows.

so are you saying that we don't have a shrinking workforce the size it was in 1980 and economic and job growth being outpaced by population growth?

No, won't contest that at all. I, however, am asking why?

Let's start with this:

Mar 5, 2012 - When it comes to job creation, George W. Bush produced the worst results—less than a one percent increase over eight years—of any president since the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) started keeping records in 1939. By our reading of the BLS data (non-farm, seasonally adjusted), total employment was 132,466,000 at the beginning of George W. Bush’s term and 133,561,000 at the end, an increase of 0.83 percent over eight years, or an average of 136,875 jobs per year.

So 8 years of Republican policy (ya know, those tax breaks that were supposed to stimulate the economy?) led to 137,000 jobs per year?

And how has Obama done?

Sep 11, 2012 - private employers added over 4.6 million jobs to their payrolls in the last 30 months, an average of 154,000 jobs a month. Private employers added 103,000 jobs to their payrolls in August, while losses in state and local government jobs held the total payroll employment gain to 96,000 jobs.

The only reason our job growth is being outpaced by our population growth is because America put idiot Republicans in charge for 8 years!

Want more proof? How did Clinton do in the 8 years previous to Bush?

Sep 6, 2012 Clinton by himself actually accounted for ... 21 million jobs over eight years.

A little quick math gives an average of 220,000 jobs per month over 8 years!

I think that history is pretty clear. If you are worried about job growth in America, you should be voting Democratic!

Tom, Springfield,MA

Thanks for posting that link! Hillarious and oh, so true!

The Obama Zombies still have hope lol

"Hope springs eternal . . ."

John Keats must have been a Democrat.

Why is it that people on the right always say Obama supporters are "drinking to kool aid" or "blinded by the liberal media"? They act like they are the ones who are awake and not blinded by something, like they know the facts, when in fact it's proven that those who get their "news" from Fox are some of the least informed people in the country. They Watch Fox, listen to Beck and Rush and act like they are not brain washed with the right wing propaganda. When they are confronted about watching fox they say they don't watch, or get their news from numerous sources, which in the end can be proven to be a lie.

A search can show you how Fox manipulates the news, and outright lies to spread their agenda, and you sheep are pulled in by it and believe every word they tell you. I've even had someone argument be "because Fox news said so". Well I better go, I need to plan for Santa Clause's arrival in Dec.

It seem each time a conservative attempts to describe a liberal, they end up describing themselves. Lyan Ryan did it again. The people have lost faith in REPUBLICANS. Fewer and fewer people are identifying themselves as Republicans not than at any time over the last 100 years. And it's easy to understand why. Republicans have no answers other than the failed policies of the past. They haven't had a new idea in 30 years. All they have done for the last 4 years is obstruct, obstruct, obstruct.

RyRand was booed out of the AARP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ryan needed 90 days for debate practice, what a Joke !!!!!!!!!

Let me see If I am giving up hope. I should vote for Ryan/Romney.

Do I want my sister to get raped and be force to have the baby or be put in jail.

That Vote.

Do I want to elect someone that will give 5 Trillion Dollars more to rich people.

That Vote

Do I want to elect someone who told half of the Untied States to kiss his azz

That Vote.

I say to you mind boggling, twisted psycho fanatic nuts if you are giving me a rim picture of America and I am still breathing air and I don't see your America is Falling thing. Why should I vote for your lying AZZ.

I'm Solution539 and I approve this message.

President Obama 2012

Obama spent twenty plus years sitting in the vile hate filled church of Jeremiah Wright, so you have to assume he believes in a much different America. The country Obama grew up in is not his vision.

Wake up, Romney and Ryan are not allowed by law to be involved with that which is run by Citizens United. So far only the Obama campaign has run ads with a direct connection between a Super PAC and their campaign.

How about posting some facts and acknowledge the circumstances around your claims?

So what is Romney/Ryan going to do that will reverse that, fire people?

excellent post independent thought!!

Independent - so what would you have the President do - allow people to starve? Do you even begin to realize we are getting out of the worst recession since the Depression? And, Congress has blocked every effort the President made to help move jobs creation forward. Of course more people are on food stamps - welfare. That happens during a serious economic situation.

The point is, had congress not be treasonous, we would be further along in jobs creation and fewer people would be needing help.

Obama/Biden 2012

Independent. That is the most irresponsible statement the Reps have come up with yet. It was your hero Little Bush that caused this mess and the Rep congress and Senate also. This whole mess started with them. As always the Reps screw things up royally and the Dem's have to clean up the mess. Bush handed the keys to a Broken Government. The Reps have been shipping our jobs overseas sense the 70's, that is a fact. Sending those jobs to Communist country's Anywhere they had slave labor. And they gave Tax breaks to those company's that sold out to those countries. These People have taken and taken from this country. Then they see a way to make a fast buck and suddenly America isn't a good place to invest. The used the Unions as a reason to send those jobs overseas. But the bottom line is, the problem was with People like Romney, Romney to this day hates the american worker. Can you imagine Henry Ford saying that he wanted to send american jobs to Communist China, Vietnam, Russia maybe. No Henry Ford was an American first and foremost. He put country first and his workers. He wanted to pay them enough to be able to buy the cars they built. People like Romney only want to make a fast buck. Romney is not entitled to be President. Reps are not entitled to be in the majority. If the Dem's we in the majority the last 4 years, we wold be so much further along in this recovery then we are. And the Rep's are taking the blame for that. That is why Romney is loosing and will loose no matter how much money big business and Koch industry's pout into the election. They are wasting good money. But they will find a way to get the tax payers to pay that money back to them, They will want a bail out, to get there money back. I think they are starting to spend that money on congressional races because they see the writing on the wall, Romney and Ryan is going to loose, and loose big. This election can't be stolen. We simply wont stand for it again.

We need Romney/Ryan, even if people try to twist comments and convince themselves otherwise. :

GEE! It has only been like a week or less than a week since he said that the 47% are leeches and worms, and already people have forgotten that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvqHERTcytI

IT is true! A week is TOO much to remember for a REPUBLICAN!!! Much less to think THAT THE REPUBLICANS WERE THE ONES WHO GOT US INTO THIS SHi&&^%HOle

A real leader sits down with both sides and doesn't leave until there is resolution, rather than running to every radio station and late night talk show. He really wants to be in Hollywood, not the White House.

Chuck, It was your own Mr. David Gregory's chart on Meet the Press, not Republicans.

A real leader sits down with both sides and doesn't leave until there is resolution

PLEASSSSEEEE!!!!

YOU SOUND ludicrous!!!!! JUST LOOK AT THE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS, THEY HAVE STOPPED E V E R Y T H I N G THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS PUT IN THEIR TABLE.

NEVER SINCE WWII HAS CONGRESS BEING THIS DISFUNCTIONAL, JUST TO SABOTAGE THIS PRESIDENT!!!

STOP LYING!!!!!

IRESPOND...sible...

And what about O's first two years of unbridled "leadership?" He and Nancy Pelosi had the world by the tail.

He is not my David Gregory. I always though Chris Matthews should have gotten that job, Or Keith Oberman. Chris is my hero. I loved the way he went after the GOP Chairman. Chris made child's play of him, Hell he was going to walk away because Chris turned him inside out. Matthews wouldn't have served up those soft balls that Gregory did to the Rep's. And he would have never let Bay go on and on while others were trying to get a word in edge wise.

Hey Seeking,

So how about a job bills that doesn't cost BILLIONS? Perhaps THEN Congress would act...

Independent Thought -- "And what about O's first two years of unbridled 'leadership?'"

Although "unbridled" is in no way accurate, I do remember those years. Not only did President Obama help the nation to avert another Great Depression, he was also able to put in place the historic beginnings of health care reform.

JK1963 -- "So how about a job bills that doesn't cost BILLIONS?"

My first instinct is to scream back at you: "How about Republicans put forth a tax policy that doesn't cost TRILLIONS?" But I'll try to tone it down and answer your question: Not just yet. Investing in infrastructure does cost billions, but it also creates jobs and benefits the country in the long term. At this time, with interest rates so low, we should be investing in the nation's infrastructure. Let's get the economy growing again, then we can attack the debt. If we just give up hope like Ryan seems to be encouraging we're doomed.

This is a REALLY SMART Republican. You guys picked him. Wow!!

Romney Doesn’t Understand Why You Can’t Roll Down Windows On A Plane

By Annie-Rose Strasser on Sep 24, 2012 at 2:05 pm

Fire fighters board Ann Romney's plane

On Monday, Mitt Romney offered a remedy to the problem that caused his wife’s airplane to land prematurely last week: Allow passengers to roll down the airplane windows.

Lets not forget who got us into this mess, can you say "W" !!!!!!!!

It took "W" 8 years to Destroy our Nation and you want President Obama to fix it in 4 years, you Clowns are a Joke !!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny how liberals are constantly attacking Romney and at the same time accusing conservatives of hating Obama. If the country could run on promises, Obama would have this economy rolling. Talk is cheap and it works on liberals, but luckily the rest of the nation is not as gullible.

And Romney said Obama is a failure for not turning this around in four years but if we give Romney eight years he could do it.

I'm not giving up hope at all...even with CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, David Letterman and all of the media outlets that are in the tank for Obama, he still can't claim a respectable lead in the polls...and polls now are showing that that Romney is even with Obama.

and polls now are showing that that Romney is even with Obama.

THOSE ARE THE POLLS FROM FOM FOX
MITT ROMNEY'S LEAD WITH senior citizens lead has dropped from 20% TO 4%

I agree juanita... You would think with nearly every media outlet falling over themselves with Obama that he would be in the lead...sadly, he is just neck and neck with Romney. That doesn't say much about hope and change does it?

juanita

Your paranoid delusion comments not withstanding

the entire worlds news out lets are not in some kind of conspiracy to promote Obama.The only biased news outlet is Fox which would make Joseph Goebbels proud.

I think you have given Juanita too much credit. I am sure she has no idea who Joseph Goebbels is.

Dear IRESPOND:

Guess what? YOURESPOND dead wrong. The polls came from Gallup and Rasmussen, among others. Do your homework before you shoot off your mouth; it keeps you from sounding uniformed!

You obama zombies are a joke. Goebbels would be jealous of obama's control of the media. And you libbies are no smarter than the German's that followed Hitler to the end. Obama is leading you to destruction as Hitler led the Germans.

Ja wohl, herr gem.

Obama/Biden 2012!

Ya know GermanGem, Harley Chic got banned last week for pretty much saying the same stuff. Your days are numbered.

Obama/Biden 2012

Witchking,

Please don't tell tell me you believe that...this network you post on every day is slanted to the left...you don't see that because it caters to your beliefs... The bias in every media outlet is unmistakable... And even with all this invisible support, Obama can just barely muster a neck and neck tie with Romney... Really pretty sad...

GermanGem - You need to lay-off the peroxide. Really hateful post.

No but Willard and Paulie are being equivacle on their values, where they stand and what their real plans are should they win. They are against individual and human rights by trying to control a woman's uterus, and denying equlaity for gays. They are also against democracy with all their voter suppression efforts. The Obama campiagn could hire Eddie Munster Ryan to write their talking points!

"We are being equivocal on our values, we are being slow to speak up for individual rights, for human rights, for democracy"

No, you're not being slow Ryan, your party will NEVER speak up for these rights, denying these basic rights is part of your platform. This is just one reason you and your partner in crime Rombot are toast.

Ryan lost me when he expected women to be forced to bear their rapists' babies! Forget the tax breaks he would give the wealthy, his "voucher" plan for Medicate that would funnel billions to corporate interests at the expense of senior heath and his distain for people who depend on government for assistance, even as he has drawn a taxpayer funded paycheck for almost his entire life!

Jody I say this. If Ryan think we american's have given up, he has a big surprise coming don't he. Hell We haven't begone to fight yet. I have seen where under President Obama's leadership, We have for the first time sense Bush 41 how a war should be fought. The president fights these 2 wars he was handed, smarter and more efferent. The Taliban didn't know what hit them. OBL didn't know what hit him. Under President Obama, I see a new way of doing business where the unions and GM work hand and hand to save jobs. The Unions gave back to work with GM. I see that being the model from here out. There really is no reason that the Unions and Management can't work hand and hand. Everyone wins like this. Under President Obama we have been bringing back many of the jobs the Reps sent to china and India. Romney just said last night that he wants smart people to come to america. God forbid we Educate our people to do those high paying jobs. I am in Michigan, they are trying to get us to build a new bridge to Canada. And guess who our Rep Governor wants to have build it? Foreigner and Foreign Steel. That's right use out tax dollars to support Foreign Country's. I would like to know where the steel is coming from to rebuild the Twin towers and who is going to be building it?

that's all you get from obama.....hopey and changey feelings....

that's all you get from obama.....hopey and changey feelings....

No. My retirement investments are back above where they were in 2008 after your boy George had them lose half of their value under his watch. And you're a very low information voter. So low, you don't even register. Too funny.

mcpaddywack - I'm doing MUCH better now. I was laid off twice 3-4 years ago when Obama was just beginning to dig us out of this mess. I now have an advanced degree, great job, secure investments, and have always paid all of my taxes on earned wages - unlike Robmey.

And you have proof of Romney not paying his taxes, right? More noise from the left...

Hey JK

George Romney released 12 years worth of tax returns to the American people when he ran for president. Since then, presidential candidates -- Republicans and Democrats -- have followed his lead and released multiple tax records for public scrutiny.

All presidential candidates, except one.

Mitt Romney has only released two years of records after persistent pressure. It raises the question: What does Mitt Romney have to hide?

Romney has some explaining to do:

Romney admits he has huge amounts of money in offshore bank accounts -- but won't say how much money, how many accounts, or where they all are Vanity Fair reports that Romney set up shell companies in Bermuda and tax shields in the Cayman Islands and Swiss Bank accounts

And, Romney's campaign said it was "unseemly and disgusting" for people to scrutinize his tax returns and business holdings

Unseemly? Disgusting? It's the same thing every presidential candidate has done since 1968. Everyone except Mitt the TWIT Romney. So, we have to ask: What's he hiding?

THE FACT THAT HE HAS FOREIGN ACCOUNTS TO TAX DODGE AND STEAL FROM THE US TREASURY AND HE AMERICAN PEOPLE

I CALL THAT A TRAITOR AND THIEF!

What has Obama done with $6,000,000,000,000.00 of U.S. taxpayer money?

Plenty, dear! He built us a really cool planetarium in Rahm Town, gave us all kinds of wonderful research on Mormon crickets and Hawaiian Monk Seals, built a great 'all teen zone' in Atlanta Georgia, funded a tattoo removal clinic in California, and sponsored 'weed removal' in Maryland! Those are only five or six of the 9300 earmarks he shoved into his stimulus bill. Sounds like money well spent, hmm?

Well, I'm ok with the tatoo removal place lol. California spent some crazy amount on an erectile dysfunction study. I'm sure all you men are ok with that;) some of you ladies too:)

Ja wohl, herr gem.

Obama/Biden 2012!

Witchking,

Well...I can see that you are no tax professional. Since when does having money in accounts outside of the US make you a criminal? Please point that regulation out to us all. And while you are at it, please also cite where the IRS has brought charges against Romney for tax evasion? It must be nice to live in a fantasyland where someone that makes more money than you is automatically "guilty".

I will admit that you are good for a laugh at least...

@ JK1963 It may not be Illegal but I would prefer a President that cared enough about his Country to pay his fair share, Than try to hide his wealth. Not very American

So Vulture/Voucher '12 is the answer? Ha!

yes...get rid of obama....things will improve dramatically...

most of you are probably too embarrassed that you voted for this fraud.....

Nope, not at all. Gonna vote for him again as a matter of fact. I would be embarrassed to say I supported Mitt Romney, though. Oh wait, that's right. YOU don't support Romney, you just the POTUS so much that it doesn't matter who would replace him. AND THAT'S WHY YOU ARE F#####G LOSING THE ELECTION!!!!

not embarrassed and voting again for Obama. Could never vote for party with leader who denigrates half of all americans, who wants to destroy medicaid, take away health care for millions, focuses on the wealthy..those job creators who instead of creating jobs over the past 12 yrs just increase their own wealth. Nor could i vote for a party that thinks war first, not diplomacy, a party that does not believe in equal pay for women and a party that thinks men should tell women what kind of medical treatment they can and can not have. there are more reasons..those are just starters.

americans have denigrated themselves by electing obama...

I am proud to support my president, Barack Obama! I will go to the voting booths on Nov. 6th with my "Obama" button worn proudly on my shirt!

mcpaddywack has nothing intelligent to say - just spouting more anti-obama hate. The only thing the Republican party does. Obama could probably sit back and say nothing at this point. It's evident based on their own words that Robmey/Ryan will bury themselves - nothing productive to say - just pointing fingers. It's quite redundant, and mcpaddywack hasn't learned that yet.

mcpaddywack - and what would Romney do - specifics? I'm proud I supported President Obama in 2008 and still support him.

You - stick with the loser Romney who doesn't give a damn about people like you!

Obama/Biden 2012

arrghh, typo in post #9.3.
Meant to say: you just hate the POTUS so much

the trolls get me so riled up sometimes that I mistype things.

most of you are probably too embarrassed that you voted for this fraud.....understandably so......

The only ones that should be embarrassed are the ones that voted for Romney in the GOPTP primaries. Of course, as Santorum said, they aren't the smartest ones on the block, so they don't understand the word embarrassed - rather they double down on stupid. Notice the actual intellects of the GOPTP are distancing themselves from the party as fast as they can. George Will, Noonan, and dozens of others have already all but conceded the race because they know Romney just plain and simply and piss-poor candidate.

But go ahead Whacko-paddy - show us how well you triple-down on stooopid!!!

mcpaddywack

americans have denigrated themselves by electing obama...

You have a stain on that sheet you are wearing, coward.

4 more 4 44

This is a REALLY SMART Republican. You guys picked him. Wow!!

Romney Doesn’t Understand Why You Can’t Roll Down Windows On A Plane

By Annie-Rose Strasser on Sep 24, 2012 at 2:05 pm

Fire fighters board Ann Romney's plane

On Monday, Mitt Romney offered a remedy to the problem that caused his wife’s airplane to land prematurely last week: Allow passengers to roll down the airplane windows.

don't think so. Four years ago we were on life support. Now we're at least off of the ventilator. Nice try, though.

mcpaddywack:

If I vote for Obama you'll kill yourself? Sounds a bit drastic but okay.

don't think so. Four years ago we were on life support. Now we're at least off of the ventilator. Nice try, though.

I disagree. 4 years ago, we were in a free fall. Today, we are on life support, but it is too early to take us off the ventilator. We still have a "fiscal cliff" we need to get through. How much do you want to bet that Congress does nothing or better yet, pushes it down the road AGAIN?

pj - then it's time to kick all of congress out and start again with a group willing to work together to get us back on track. You know, one that doesn't sign pledges to Grover Norquist but instead does what they are hired to do!

Obama/Biden 2012

a vote for obama is a vote for national suicide....

There is a hotline for that, just google suicide assistance hotline - but if you insist....

Just ignore that racist pig.

Obama/Biden 2012

Seeking,

Or people like Reid and Pelosi...once we clear the air of those individuals then America might start moving forward...

Exito,

Nice with the "racist" comment...oh so typical...

Vote Romney/Ryan!

forget it, seeking sanity. pj thinks Gary Johnson's the answer.

I hope people like pj and many others do vote for Gary Johnson. I hope they realize that a vote for Gary Johnson takes away the votes to Romney! So, go ahead Johnson supporters! Vote away!

forget it, seeking sanity. pj thinks Gary Johnson's the answer.

You are an azz, really you are. You think Obama or Romney, or what ever corperate shill is the answer, that is fine. I pick someone who is outside of the boys club that may actually have an answer, because who ever you candidate is, AND I DON'T CARE, they are most certainly not the anwer.

AlaskaGirl, my vote for Johnson is a vote against Obama, not Romney. I stated earlier, that I would never vote for Romney.

Then you obviously don't know how it works. So, please, do vote for Gary Johnson. LOL

they're done with the GOP.

If so, then why is Boehner have no challenger? If so, Why is Sen. Brown's advantage dwindling?

DB Akron -- "If so, then why is Boehner have no challenger?"

He comes from a highly Republican safe district,filled with an abnormal percentage of unthinking people.

"If so, Why is Sen. Brown's advantage dwindling?"

Do you mean Sen Scott Brown? (The Republican). I think you may have shot yourself in the foot. You could probably get a job with the Romney team, you'd fit right in.

To quote bob's ur uncle" "Ohio...done with the GOP."

I owe DB Akron an apology. It occurs to me a little too late that he was talking about SEn Sherrod Brown. Sorry. I'd take it back if I could.

I jumped to a conclusion and I was wrong.

tony, you seem to be a very low information person. I understand you are a communist mooch, lazy, and unemployed. I just don't understand why you are a victim. Maybe you would be happier if you worked for a living, instead of voting for a living.

Sure Joe. Funny, I just got done working ten hours today. How many did you? I'm going to guess zero since you're seen trolling on here at any hour of the day or night.

tony, you seem to be a very low information person

we're trying to educate tony. stubborn as a MULE lol

Joe - you epitomize the low information voter. How sad for you!

Obama/Biden 2012

ss - it's funny that Joe Blow never answers back. Maybe it's too complicated for him, whaddya think?

You are right tonybeeerm

It is much to complicated for Joe Blow

Caesar Pizza Boy always answers back because he never stops making a fool of himself

Hey Caesar every notice your posts get one maybe 2 point while your opponents get double digits

It's great you making the case for the President keep it up

and that just shows how ignorant you are.

I last voted for Reagan and had a choice between dumb and dumber ever since. We have had dumber for almost 4 years so I would vote for Elmer Fudd over this failure - heck just having Biden one person away from holding the office should be enough to make you NOT vote for Obama.

after that reply, I stand by my original statement but will ad that you really don't give a rat's a$$ about this nation at all.

tonybeeerm - Jeff always spews hatred of the man he knows he couldn't hold a candle to. And, he's deflecting because he knows Romney isn't half the man President Obama is.

Bet he voted for Bush - twice!

Obama/Biden 2012

"ignorant" "hatred" towards an adminstration that should be behind bars for writing checks they can not back then blaming the rich, wants to crack down on Banks and Wall Street while he continues to borrow money from China to give to failing green companies both here and overseas. He is to busy trying to meet with other world leaders here in our country while the middle east is boiling over. He is out buying votes giving things to woman, money to black colleges, and hispanics a free pass. My hope is not to give this administration 4 more years to turn us into the third world country Obama is from.

Jeff -725167

Its not as much as being for Romney as much as against giving the worse president in our lifetime 4 more years to ruin our country.

I am glad that you voted in 2004. Thanks for voting. This time we are going to reelect the man that is cleaning up the mess left by the one you voted for in 2004. You gave Bush 4 more years and he was, indeed, the worst president in US history. Just think about it; the family of James Buchanan can now be proud of their ancestor how is now the sencond worst president in US history. Obama, so far is rated by historians as in the middle and may well climb.

Oh Jeff - I think you've had too much Savage Nation and Rush Limbaugh. Simmer down or you'll hyper yourself into frenzy.

I love my country and for that reason I am voting Obama/Biden. 4 More Years!!

wow jeff, ignorant was too kind of a word to use describing you. Disturbed now comes to mind. But I guess that's what happens when you overdose too many times on FOX

Thanks Jeff for giving me the opening

Bush / Cheney arguably the worst presidency in American history

It was on their watch that 9/11 took place: it was Bush who failed to kill or
capture bin Laden: it was Bush / Cheney who failed to destroy Al Qaida and the
Taliban after 8 years of war: It was Bush / Cheney who lied to the entire world
about WMD in Iraq: It was Bush / Cheney who turned a record Federal surplus
into a record deficit: It was Bush / Cheney who created the conditions that
have lead to the biggest economic crises in since the great depression: it was
Bush / Cheney who failed to act when New Orleans was hit with a natural
disaster; It was Bush / Cheney who destroyed Americas standing in the world and could go on.

And where was Dick Head Cheney while all this was going on HIDING IN AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION JUST LIKE the WIMP DID DURING THE ENTIRE VIETNAM WAR while Dubya was drunk high and AWOL from the air guard that his Daddy got him in too.

Witchking,

Let me remind you...it was during Clinton's watch that the World Trade center was bombed and yet Osama wasn't captured or killed. It was under Clinton's watch that the bombing in Oklahoma happened. It was under Clinton that the USS Cole was attacked. It was also Clinton that pulled his pecker out and had a fun time with an intern (although I don't think she had a very fun time) and then perjured himself...and lest you forget it was also Clinton that also hid in England during the Vietnam war and to quote..."I never inhaled..."

I just want to remind you of the good old times we had under Clinton just like you reminded us of the good old times under Bush...

• Jeff -- the worst president of your tie left office in January, 2009. It will take a generation to clean up the mess he left us.

Charlie,

That is the excuse that the left uses to justify their lack of accomplishment.

"That is the excuse that the left uses to justify their lack of accomplishment."

No JK -- that is reality. It took Bush and his gang or Republicans in Congress more than a 4 years trash this economy. It won't get fixed in 4 years. And if Romney wins (he won't) it will take even longer because Romney wants to do exactly what Bush did. We didn't get out of the Hoover depression in 4 years and we won't get out of the Bush depression in 4 years either.

But..but...you lefties like to point out how bad it was just in the last few months... Keep believing that excuse the left wing media keeps feeding you to prop up Obama and his lack of accomplishments...

And need I remind you, the worst part of the fallout happened while the Democrats held a majority in both houses...just thought you might need a refresher...

Worst president in our lifetime? Bush Jr. has that award hands down. Little Ryan's work history is what?

Americans are giving up hope -- PERIOD!

Speak for yourself, loser. The only ones giving up hope are those who can't get past the fact that this man was elected by wide majority in 2008 and stands a good chance of being re-elected by an even wider margin in 2012. Get over it. I still love this country no matter who is President, Senator, Congressman or any other elected official. As long as there are free elections, I will always feel that way. If you don't feel the same way, then you are not really a patriotic American.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!

STILL WAITING ON ACTUAL TAX RETURNS, ROMNEY! Mr. Romney stated that any person who pays more than required on their tax returns doesn't deserve to be president of the U.S. So, WHY did Romney pay more than he was required to on his 2011 return? Ponder that one, Republicans!

G, G and G

From the article above:

"People are beginning to give up hope. People are beginning to think that the American dream's not for them because of this stagnant economy," Ryan told the nearly 1,500-person crowd along Ohio's key I-75 corridor. "And when you take a look at what your government's doing to you in every nook and cranny of America, it's not good."

Ah, the old tried and true GOP classic; Make the United States government the cause of all your problems.

The article continues…

"We are being equivocal on our values, we are being slow to speak up for individual rights, for human rights, for democracy. We are seeing countries stifle freedom in Iran, in Russia, in all these other areas and we are saying we are going to gut our national security, our military. That projects weakness," Ryan said, noting that turning on the TV makes you think of 1979 Tehran.

The congressman's speech has all the old catch phrases that make the Tea Party congregation all warm and fuzzy; God, Guns and Guts.

As usual, it's the Wisconsin Congressman and the GOP that offers no hope to the American public, and offers nothing new.

Same old same old.

The majority of Americans are hopeful, because we support President Obama and we are going to move America FORWARD into the 21^st Century come November 6^th. We're also going to take back the House.

Salud

Americans are giving up hope -- PERIOD!

No -- REPUBLICANS are giving up hope -- PERIOD!. And they should. The only demographic where they have a majority support is among old white people. They's nominated one of the most worthless candidates of all times. they have no ideas other than the failed policies of the past. At their convention, they talked about what their grandparents did, not what they did. They want to take the nation back to some imaginary time in the past. Sorry Republicans --- Sorry Republicans --- Mayberry RFD was a TV show --- it never actually existed. We're not going back ti it.

and willie..please tell me what the tea party really stands for?......you obviously are ignorant

The Teabag Party is just the old "Family Values Party" that needed to change their names because many of their leaders were caught screwing around on their wives.

really?...wow.......are you high?

JT-456250 . . .

Excellent post and comments.

Obama/Biden 2012

Excellent post and so true!!

Yawn.

Go back to sleep. We'll wake you up on Nov. 7th.

JT...You can blame congress for the past two years, but what about the two years prior when he and Nancy Pelosi had no discipline? Resulting in a massive spending spree. My kids call me obstructionist sometimes too. This said, I am thoughtful, I am worried, I have four children depending on us to not leave a trash pile as a future. Those numbers show right where we are headed, in the dump. Maybe you should consider thinking closer to moderation? I am an independent thinker, fiscally conservative and socially moderate.

I agree Independent... The vast majority of the independents still have not made up their mind on who to vote for... Four years ago, everyone bought the "hope and change" and the fuzzy warm feelings of Obama's speeches. Now fast forward to now, the independents see the true picture of the man that promised everything and delivered very little. The independent base will be the ultimate voting bloc that will decide this election. Obama had better start courting those folks if he intends to stay in office another four years...

Independent Thought - Nancy Pelosi had no discipline? How about they worked their butts off - more days in Congress than these free-loaders - more bills passed than ever before

First of all aren't we all independent thinkers - I have three children - five grandchildren and two great grandchildren

You think liberal thinkers are the scourge of this earth - may I remind you it was liberal thinkers that started this country - all educated men

And what we have now is a wish to former days - What Leave it to Beaver - Father Knows Best - it was a TV Program that really did not exist in America

My Mother owned a Beauty Shop - my husband's Mother ran a Deli in Jersey City - all the while these fantasy shows where on TV

Yes husbands worked - my dad at a Zinc Mill, my husband's dad as a Mechanical Engineer at an Insane Asylum

But we were middle America - where - I attained my degree as my sisters and my children - and my grandchildren - because we were able to better ourselves

But today since the 1980's there has been a war against us - cheap labor, schools not teaching science - or should I say the real science

Darn, my almost midnight rant - and I think this President has caught on to these disparities and I for one - a White Senior Citizen - over 70 - will never on the face of this earth will ever vote for a Republican

Fooled once shame on you - fooled twice shame on me!

Barbara,

Simply because Pelosi passes a bunch of bills does not make her a good representative...it's about quality, NOT quantity... Pelosi made a fool out of being a representative... And explain to me how you corner the market by saying that only liberal minds are educated minds?? That is the kind of arrogance that the vast number of us loath about liberals...

65 million and g r o w i n g!

65 million and dying.

Joe Thomas - not even close. There are an estimated 67,000 Tea Party members across the country. This is why no one takes you idiots seriously! Let's see - ya just added 3 zeroes! LOL!!!

Obama/Biden 2012

I did not add you, willie, or tony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3 zeroes. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

60's veteran -

People under Obama are giving up hope? B.S B.S. B.S. B.S.. B.S. B.S B.S .B.S. B.S. B.S. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard fom him and I have heard some real zingers from him. This guy is stupider than Sarah Palin, Michele Bachman, Anne Coulter and Rush Limbaugh all together.

Leave it to "The Duke" to tell it like it is.

Bravo!

Salud

Lyin Ryan is a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR

Hey Paul how about those Marathon times you LIED ABOUT

Like Dubya and his WMD

or THE BIGGEST CROOK OF ALL RICHARD NIXON

The only President to resign or GO TO PRISON

B.S, all you have to do is look at the job seeker numbrs. And the millions that have just given up hope of finding a job. Unemployment is not going down, the debt is nealy doubled. It is hard to find a bright spot during his term of office. Just look at the food stamp numbers. And he thinks that having a larger Republican Congress is going to help him do a better job. He should take his own advise,and try to effect change from outside Washington, since the only change he has effected so far, is for the worse.

Witchking, Chemical weapons (gas) is considered WMD's) which he used against the Kurds, several times. The Term Obama lied and people died could be used for "fast and furious" too.

One more time ----

All you teatards, birthers, flat earthers, religious fanatics, mindless dittoheads, evolution deniers, Fox noise cultist, conspiracy theorist, gun crazies and all around 15^th century Republicans --- you better get used to President Obama because he's not leaving office until January 2017. Mitt Romney is one of the most worthless candidates in the history of this nation with no ideas to fix anything other than the failed policies of the past. Talking about In God We Trust on money, birth control, birth certificates, teleprompters, college transcripts and wars on religion while writing off 45% of the population and yelling socialist and Marxist over and over doesn’t attract many voters. And if you don’t come up with some new ideas and find an entirely new group of leaders, we just may have another President Clinton in 2017.

Yup, the GOP nominates Thurston Howell III and Eddie Haskell, so America is giving up! What tools!

Don't forget what Santorum said, "the smart people will never be for us", basically says it all, even the publics think they are stupid!!!

Correction the Public Knows they are STUPID.

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