Many less "collapses" this week. In fact, didn't see even one in the FT's section.

Now why would that be?

Making last minute “demands” that would ensure his success, indeed
threatening to “reschedule” if he wasn’t allowed an exemption to the student
only rule and then packing the forum with rowdy, bused-in supporters who ignored
the rules not to applaud, the Romney campaign later gloated that the Hispanic
forum was more “excited” for Mitt than for Obama, whose also partisan crowd did
not ignore the rules.

A GOTP crowd and canididate that doesn't follow the rules? I'm shocked! What's not shocking is JAS1's lame attempt at derailing this thread.

Dennis, I don't think Mitt could have screwed that interview up more than he possibly did. I fet bad for Jorge Ramos ... who, by the way, was excellent yesterday morning on George when trying to respond to crazy Ann Coulter!

JoAnnaSmith1

Many less "collapses" this week. In fact, didn't see even one in the FT's section.

Now why would that be?

Because her soul is on forced 'vacation'. The dance is duller without her.

Actually JAS - it's the new view of FR - nothing is collapsed. I haven't seen one in about two weeks and the ignore feature is beautiful. You can't see their posts, nor can you open them (without logging out), and you cannot post on an ignored poster's thread. I so hope you do have Feisty on ignore so that when she comes back, you won't be able to post on her threads. THAT would be pleasant!

To all the liberals on this board, Feisty wants you to know she's well and relaxing during her timeout!

Day 5 from the Newsvine poky;

Greetings to my fellow lefty liberals!

I wanted to check in and let you all know what an exciting weekend we had here in Newsvine prison!

After we finished landscaping Warden Tyler’s lawn on Saturday, and doing his laundry, he decided we did such an outstanding job he would reward us with “Movie Night”!

Wouldn’t you know, Sergeant Sally chose one of the greatest movies of all time; “The Shaw Shank Redemption”?

It should come as no surprise, I was put in charge of the *popcorn* while the red Kool-Aid ran freely! Some merry prankster who shall remain un-named “spiked”.

The best part was I got to sit next to my fellow convict & BFF, Beverly!

I found a lot of similarities between Warden Norton & Warden Tyler, but I will leave it at that, since I’m still on track to attend his art & craft class today due to my continued good behavior! ;o)

Which reminds me, anyone have a George Clooney poster & rock hammer they could spare?

Keep the light on for me...

{{{hugs}}}

Feisty

The dance is duller without her.

or more civility.

Because her soul is on forced 'vacation'.

no, simply suspended for her behavior. same with Bev. I like how you guys are trying your hardest alleviate any of her responsibility for her actions or at the least sugar coat it. How many times have I heard already about me 'enjoying' my timeout? I got what i deserved. lets see if Feisty learns. I have little faith.

Which reminds me, anyone have a George Clooney poster & rock hammer they could spare?

there was a major difference. He was indeed innocent.

Dennis - I watched both Univision programs with Romney and Obama. The revelations that Romney packed the halls with non students and bused in supporters is telling. During the Romney event I was surprised to see the adulation and chanting when Mitt was introduced. Similarily was not sure why people screamed in support for his non descript, talking points lacking specificity. If Romney pressured for a retape and almost cancelled I bet he warned Ramos and Salinas (Univision anchors) that certain questions were off limits. Case in point when Ramos tried to follow up on a question the audience (presumably the bused in sycophants) booed Ramos. The ever evasive Romney said, "I think I already answered that question." No follow up allowed on the question about the 47% are vicitims and don't take responsibility. No follow up about why Romney said he would keep portion of Obama care (per Meet the Press) and then a few days later flip flopped and said all of it would go. It seemed as if the Univision either willingly or unwillingly muzzled appropriate follow up questions.

In contrast, Obama got a warm welcome and received a smattering of applause to the real students that attended. In addition, it was noted that Ramos asked hard questions and followed up with the President. Obama answered. On a third follow up, Ramos even bypassed transalation and asked Obama why he broke his immigration promise. Obama responded by saying that the economic quasi depression had to be dealt with first. He also noted that he needed partners from the other side in immigration reform. Ramos pressed him that he failed to complete his promise despite Obama's support of the Dream act. To which Obama responded that he can't do everything from the White House that he needed allies and compromise in Congress. He also said that change can come from the outside. The electorate can convince their reps. to support immigration reform or replace them. He said he has learned that change can come from outside Washington.

When pressed the president explained that he can back and suggest bills but legislation has to come from the legislative branch. As none came he went forward with the executive order to limit deportations and allow the Dreamers whose bill was rejected by the GOP to get work permits. Later, when Salinas asked what was Obama's greatest failure was she aluded to his inablity to pass immigration reform. He noted that well from what Jorge is saying my greatest failure is not passing immigration reform. Right after he said that he expressed his disappointment that some things he wanted were not done. To remedy that he asked the crowd and audience to give him their vote to help him finish the job.

I thought Obama's interview was good even despite the hard questions and tactics from Univision. They are journalists and when doing Obama they acted as the media should. However, when Romney was there perhaps due to his earlier tantrum they were very meek and let the Gov. spout talking points without a challenge. Despite my belief that Obama did a good interview the right quickly saw their angle of attack. From a few brief clips, without understanding or caring about the context new GOP talking points emerged.

GOP false talking point 1 - I, Obama can not change things, change can come from the outside, therefore I have failed.

GOP false talking point 2 - I, Obama believe that the most important failure that I've had is not getting immigration reform. Therefore, I Obama think that immigration is the MOST important issue overshadowing everything even job creation.

Caesar Augustus-

FR is where one can romp with all that is the 1st. Amendment. It is where we mostly choose to post because we can be unbridled of CoH. Feisty got nabbed on an NBC thread. So as the saying goes, @!$%# ART LET'S DANCE.

BTW, anyone here who hides behind a profanity filter is a traitor to the full force of language.

FR is where one can romp with all that is the 1st. Amendment.

that is the biggest load of crap yet. Why, as Feisty et al with the treehouse gang tried to get posters banned for merely just being the opposing view. They would flag posts as spam to get them collapsed. The same crew that had an in with a 'journalist' for FR articles and met with the guy. The same guy once exposed had to claim he would meet with conservative bloggers if they so chose. This further proves my point that FR and NBC lefty bloggers pick and choose what parts of the constitution to trash at their leisure.

Translation, FR is the Arizona Territory for certain posters. Nothing more

I wonder what our President's view on the Iran story this morning, the one that claims they will attack US bases...

http://news.yahoo.com/iran-threatens-attacks-us-bases-event-war-143141162.html

If he can spare a moment from campaigning and please let us know what his plan for the tensions building between Israel and Iran, we would know what to expect... or does he just wish it would all go away?

Caesar Augustus-

I am a member of the treehouse gang and we do not do that. We share personal stories. There is no conspiracy. NONE!

Don't worry about it, bcwc: people like poor Caesar, who do not have a life, have to drum up internet conspiracy to comfort themselves that they have a purpose in life.

The thing I have learned about this: People who claim to be "conservative" are control freaks. If they don't have friends, no one else can either. If they don't have a chat room, no one else can either. If they don't have a meet and greet and invite a speaker, no one else can either.

Basically, they are lazy and want others to be as lazy as they are.

So CA: you have revealed yourself. I wouldn't be in a hurry to condemn Feisty. Given your behavior, you will be banned again.

It is fitting that the left wing nut jobs honor Feisty with dog tags since they are all a bunch of Obama purse poodles..

I am a member of the treehouse gang and we do not do that.

au contraire. then you are either lying or not a part of the previous activities. As to the conspiracy, the proof is my own eyes reading (and multiple witnesses still on here No Joe, Spanky, where is Mixedbag again?) what was written during the LIBSRUS debacle and well the trusty internet has. I am done arguing this with you, they know who they are. You don't have a leg to stand on. However you should have about half a dozen chime in soon with screaming that I am a re-reg. Apparently that is the only way to know what happened (NOT!).

have to drum up internet conspiracy to comfort themselves that they have a purpose in life.

for starters, its no conspiracy secondly only to demostrate the lefty hypocrisy of the 1st Amendment. Stings doesnt it Newday

So CA: you have revealed yourself.

ah the re-reg thing again. Yep i was just suspended and if you hate the slightest idea how quick they are to nail re-regs not suspending them.

Given your behavior, you will be banned again.

stop with the idle threats newday, I'm not getting banned. never was. You dont have to be a member to read the comments. google Libsrus and safecracker. and NO i am not him. you can try to link that. go tell tyler or sally LOL. they know I am not that is why

newdayDAWNING...RETURNED

Pretty condescending tone there... maybe you can grace us with the Democrats "love everyone" garbage...

I wonder what our President's view...

I'm sure Obama is meeting with his National security team and discussing this new threat and weighing our options and possible responses. Discussions are surely being held with Israel. Perhaps outreach with other allies, Jordan etc to tamp down Iran's threats. I believe that delicate foreign defense issues should be kept in private.

The GOP hasn't learned that politics ends at the water's edge. Romney no doubt, will blurt out some bellicose language about the Iranian regime. I'm sure the radical right would want Obama's discussions public record, this is something best left to our President and his defense and diplomatic team.

Brief diversion from the topic - Only trolls care more about suspensions, individual posters and/or delight in slinging insults rather than discussing the actual topics or posts.

Newday,

It is all too amusing. Feisty is accused of being a paid poster and being a power behind the throne and somehow she ends up in the penalty box. Idiocy seems to have no bounds.

You gotta hand it to Feisty, she's still thinking outside the box, even if she is in a box.

PS More likely, in real life, she's down at the Democratic phone bank, entertaining the volunteers!

Sirie: this may come as a REAL surprise to you, but I don't very much care what you think.

bcwc: I have been waiting for the pinheads that are SO afraid of Feisty to come up with their new meme.

Let's see, she can't be an employee or she wouldn't get suspended.

NO! WAIT! I KNOW! FR is just trying to throw us off the track!

God, You can't make this stuff up with people like CA.

my point exactly NDD, preach one thing, but live differently...

like living a lie....

sirie, pay no mind to newday RETURNED. they hate reregs but half of them are. they claim they were hacked (no, one of your own left the door unlocked to your clubhouse). they get awfully uncomfortable when I bring it up and start the Re-reg garbage.

God, You can't make this stuff up with people like CA.

yep, kinda like holocaust revisionists eh NEWDAY? newday and Clara get nervous. watch them squirm. however I am done with this particular convo, I made my point about the hypocritical 'freedom of speech cry' from the FR lefty posters.

And I recant that Feisty is a paid blogger seeing how justice outside the AZ territory(FR) does happen

Romney is such a control freak.

He can't even campaign on his own. He has to have his children, his wife, Ryan, or several other Republicans do most of the speaking.

Many Republicans are again pointing out that he couldn't even stand on his own two feet to win the Republican nomination. Romney had to have his outside groups spend 10 times everyone else in order to barely win because Romney couldn't connect with voters.

I so hope you do have Feisty on ignore

Who?

And isn't it odd how I never mentioned safecrakcer or re regging. Fascinating, yes?

Sirie: one more time: You don't define who or what Dems are, and since you aren't terribly insightful, I just do not care what you think.

Plus, you bore the snot out of me.

Caesar ... get a @!$%#ing life! You are becoming most boring. Sheesh, Bermuda triangle syndrome.

JoAnnaSmith1

I so hope you do have Feisty on ignore

Who?

That was good for a chuckle JAS1

Nah, you are just doing what you always do CA: RUNNING when you get uncomfortable.

Bullies are always cowards, and no one proves it like you do.

By the way, CA: you moron: you are a paid blogger too. EVERYONE who posts on Newsvine is paid. So, how do we interpret that! GASP! A CONSPIRACY! CA is on the take!

And isn't it odd how I never mentioned safecrakcer or re regging. Fascinating, yes?

not in particular. Considering Libsux was safecracker and a host of many many monikers. He comes back, gets banned. its simple, its the default play Newday. now go run along blissfully ignorant.

Nah, you are just doing what you always do CA: RUNNING when you get uncomfortable.

nope, the conversation ran its course, you can chase your tail but like i said, the real bullies are the Libsrus crew and the proof is in the pudding

Sirie like I said, Newday is an extension of Feisty. nothing really there but attack. Im over it. no point in playing with it. let them live in hypocrisy. its the Helen Keller approach to politics and life

Caesar ... get a @!$%#ing life! You are becoming most boring. Sheesh, Bermuda triangle syndrome.

oh no, I bore another sanctimonious lib. Well I proved my point. back to sticking your fingers in your ears LALALALALA

Dem's sure like to preach how intelligent they are compared to all us "dumb non followers", yet when something isn't getting done their way-- blame, blame, blame.

I wonder what life is like in that little bubble they live in...

Dennis,

How are you today? I guess Ohio is still getting bombarded with campaign ads. Must be helping your economy some, lol.

Do you have some other source as politicususa is a very liberal publication. I am not saying it didn't happen but I just question the source. Also I wish the interviewer would have asked Obama about his often repeated statement "I have deported more illegals in my three years than President Bush did in 8 yrs, (or words to that effect)."

BTW, Since Obama currently has an 60+ poll numbers among Hispanics and he touts his so called "dream act" by Executive Order I would expect him to get a better greeting from a college crowd.

And how sad for the poor little fellow. Nothing better to do in life than re reg. Please, do tell me what that is like CA, since you have SO much experience with it.

But, it is always the same with you. Fun and games until you start looking the fool again CA! Deflect to sirie, who is about your intellectual level, which is not saying much.

The conversation is over when I decide it is over, CA. See, I can be a control freak too.

I wonder what life is like in that little bubble they[Dems/Libs] live in..

By all indications, very angry.

Life in my Dem bubble is pretty good - especially since it looks like President Obama will be re-elected!

the level of intellgence from FR lefty posters degrades into Beavis and Butthead. They talk of control freaks but sheesh I cant buy large sugary sodas in NYC or happy meals in SanFran both liberal dominated. And Obamacare telling me I have to buy insurance or get taxed er fined.

I wouldnt hero worship any canidate or president but heck, the liberals here make FR and altar. He does no wrong and his record is poor. I wonder if they beat themselves about the head area?

CA - I cant buy large sugary sodas in NYC or happy meals in SanFran

it is because they know what is best for everyone... don't you see?

it is because they know what is best for everyone... don't you see?

as clear as mud

In the most recent 60 Minutes interview, Scott Pelley asked Romney what he feels are the essential qualities of a leader.

Romney's reply:

"A leader has to have the capacity to build trust in the people he or she works with.

People have to look at that person and say, 'I may disagree with him, but I know where they stand and I can trust them.'"

Was Romney serious? Does he understand that--as a flip-flopping liar extraordinaire-- he has placed himself outside his own definition of a leader?

Love it! Go Mitt! STFU and go away!

...six more weeks...

And now we have poor JoAnna, who tries to step in: Tell me, poor JoAnna: are you adjusting to your candidate losing? He has made a right mess of it, don't you think? But, I am quite sure you will be able to cope.

Poor CA: still trying to spin his way out of this. I should get "good day" from him soon!

Caesar Augustus-the level of intellgence from FR lefty posters degrades into Beavis and Butthead.

So go to FOX blogs ... what? The Repubs there have have their Beavis up a Butt and not a brain in site. You post here because you are a glutton for punishment. Closeted bunch of self flagellates.

I do love a feisty fist fight, but Miss Caesar, do come up with some game.

JoAnnaSmith1 -By all indications, very angry.

Makes me wonder what the average life span comparing Libs vs Conservs, if anyone has ever done a study on it...

ROCCO - What a stunningly intelligent post. Why now, we're all just hanging on every work you write! NOT!

sirie - from where I'm sitting we "liberals" are much happier than you on the radical right. Oh, and as for lifespans - just buried my wonderful great Aunt who was 111 - when she died she was the 72nd oldest person on record.

See Liberals love to learn and are always looking for ways to improve things unlike conservatives who just hate everything that isn't exactly like them!

NDD - you're not actually trying to reason with JAS? It's almost as bad as pretending to have a conversation with no joe - almost!

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sheesh I cant buy large sugary sodas in NYC or happy meals in SanFran...

You can't get a happy meal? O!M!G! Whatever will you doooo Caesar?

*gasp* Have we discovered the root cause of your discontent? LOL

Sorry, that was just too easy. I couldn't pass it up. :)

They have done IQ studies, and the Conservatives rank lower, higher in areas of the brain that control fear and anxiety.

In other words, YOU sirie.

Closeted bunch of self flagellates

Pontificating your higher order of intelligence Prometheus LOL? Sure Brit go play with fire.

So go to FOX blogs ... what?

freedom of speech right? or did you forget? what do you care, you have the Magna Carta

You can't get a happy meal? O!M!G! Whatever will you doooo Caesar?

sue somone successful because its not fair!

Makes me wonder what the average life span comparing Libs vs Conservs, if anyone has ever done a study on it...

Obama up by 5?

more personal attacks and name calling, almost like Feisty never left!

Good one, kaybeetoys.

Dennis, I did confirm what you posted about the interview/debate on Univision to be correct. I am sure Univision would acknowledge that Obama had many more supporters on the campus than Romney, I mean it's a Hispanic forum. As for requiring a new introduction, it was based on Ramos saying Romney would only be appearing for 35 minutes while Obama was giving 60 minutes.

IMO, it's not a real big deal. We know that Romney is not going to win the Hispanic vote, no matter what he does.

For those wishing to know what was said during the Univision town halls, Google it. Or go to the univision webpage.

While Romney was avoiding follow up questions and allowed to spout talking points. "I'm running for 100% of the electorate." Ramos paraphrasing - But your recording from Boca Raton seems to suggest (Loud boos, catcalls from the crowd.) Romney -"I already answered that question."

______________

President Obama fielded tough questions from Univision anchors Jorge Ramos and Maria Elena Salinas at the University of Miami-Dade Thursday afternoon. The most difficult question came from Ramos, an advocate of immigration reform, who asked the president why he had not kept his promise to pass immigration reform.

During his 2008 campaign, Obama had specifically promised Ramos that he would pass comprehensive immigration reform during his first year in office.

"A promise is a promise, and with all due respect … you didn't keep that promise," Ramos said in English. (The majority of the one-hour interview was conducted in Spanish, with Obama listening to a simultaneous translation via an earpiece.)

Obama replied, "When we talked about immigration reform the first year, that was before the economic collapse." He added that since he failed to get a single Republican to support immigration reform, the bill was never passed. The immigration reform proposal was floated by congressional Democrats in April, 2010.

Salinas pointed out that Obama was the president who had deported the highest number of undocumented residents to date, with more than 5,000 children in foster care because their parents had been deported. She then asked whether Obama had undertaken his recent "deferred action" program to allow a path to citizenship for the children of undocumented immigrants merely to gain votes from Latinos.

"Part of the reasons that deportations went up was Congress put a whole lot of money into it and when you have a lot of resources and a lot more agents involved, then there are going to be higher numbers," Obama responded. He continued to discuss general programs for children and promises of aid to college students for the next 9 minutes.

___________

In addtion to this, fast and furious was discussed with Obama and a question was asked about the DOJ clearing of Holder. They asked Obama if he would support the newly elected President in Mexico in border control, narcotic enforcement etc. As a funny bye line, the Mexican Pres. and his party was caught paying their PRI voters to vote, cheathing and allowing them to regain control of the presidency. Political corruption in Mexico is not surprising. Unfortunately here in the US the voter purges, false issue of false voter id voting may well help the GOP go third world and cheat themselves into the white house.

Univision reporters asked questions to Obama, either because they were muzzled or afraid Romney would cancel they let Romney speak in platitudes without specifics. No follow ups were allowed.

Why is Obama ahead with Latinos? Obviously we are not a monolithic source the other option, a President Romney would be bad for not only us but for the rest of Americans. Funny that even with some of us, not me, having English as a second language we understand that Mitt is lying.

more personal attacks and name calling, almost like Feisty never left!

more like Siamese twins connected at the head.

Thanks, NDR! All together now:

Now Romney and Ryan's coming,
They're leaving us on our own.
In six weeks we will be voting,
Mitt's dead in O HI O.

Mitt's dead in O HI O.

Sung to the tune of "Four Dead in Ohio", by Crosby, Stills Nash & Young

When asked about the large number of deportations, Obama - "Part of the reasons that deportations went up was Congress put a whole lot of money into it and when you have a lot of resources and a lot more agents involved, then there are going to be higher numbers," Obama responded.

When asked about immigration reform and his broken promise, Obama -- "When we talked about immigration reform the first year, that was before the economic collapse."

BLAME - when you look that up in the dictionary, there should be a picture of Obama

BLAME - when you look that up in the dictionary, there should be a picture of Obama

he Evolved LOL

sirie - just like a conservative - poke a stick at someone then you're surprised when they break it off for you!

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SeekingSanity: I loved the post from Feisty. It is nice to know she and Bev are only just in a penalty box. Whatever they did it can not compare to some of the teabagger post.

4 more 4 44

So the Gov. Romney's Univision interview was like his previous meet and greet with the NAACP where he bused in supporters?

CA

You seem to be ill informed about the matters you 'claim' to be so informed about,...

Perhaps you should educate yourself?

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2011/06/24/6933237-first-thoughts-eyeing-the-general-election#c55300369

The bottom line,...As far as I know, no one in the Treehouse Gang has EVER been banned from First Read or Newsvine. Therefore, re-registering a new account is completely unnecessary.

Ironic that you want to portend to be an arbiter of rule following.

Perhaps you shouldn't stick your nose in matters that don't concern you? Unless, of course, you are admitting they concern you?

It's the retelling of the ancient history - that tips the moderators off to banned folks. But, by all means, keep our LEGEND alive. It gives us a certain CREDIBILITY that apparently trips your paranoia into HIGH gear. I for one find it amusing as hell.

As you were Beckistanian Soldier, as you were.

Clara Pavlovian LOL.

that tips the moderators off to banned folks

well i dont about you but you can read the blog without being registered LOL...DOH! and really, since i was just suspended perhaps you can let sally and tyler know that I am re-reg. Maybe they know something you don't. Always with emotion with you guys.

Perhaps you shouldn't stick your nose in matters that don't concern you?

but it does, its hypocrital when talking about FR being all about free speech.

As far as I know, no one in the Treehouse Gang has EVER been banned from First Read or Newsvine

i dont see the point of returned, 2.0 or complete change of name. be proud of being a retired Naval person.

It's the retelling of the ancient history

only to prove a point about freedom of speech, I'm assuming you read what started it. I'm doubting it since it was missed upon you. LIke i said, you get awfully nervous. Pavlov would be proud

i almost wish that i could expand CA and Sirie's posts to see what all the fuss is about. almost...

Happy to tell you myself Tzalaran: Newsvine allows chat rooms. Some of us who have posted for some years on FR became friends, had a chat room where we discussed all and sundry. There came a time when some of the group decided to meet, meeting was set up, a speaker was invited. Since the group met on FR, a journalist from FR was invited to speak. He accepted.

Along comes a poster named safecracker, who has since been banned, but comes back from time to time, his nose was out of joint, since in his world, no one can do anything if they don't have his permission. He decided that since the privacy controls were not set properly, it gave him permission to publish pages from that chat, to embarrass and intimidate those who had formed these friendships. A very limited number of right wing nut jobs who post here have a conspiracy brewing about the whole thing similar to the birthers.

Generally, when it comes up again, it is safecracker posting under a new moniker. He does love him some conspiracy.

So that's it in a nutshell.

As you can see, CA continues to spin about in the throes of conspiracy, proving yet again that the studies regarding I.Q. and conservatives are correct.

[CA continues to spin about in the throes of conspiracy, proving yet again that the studies regarding I.Q. and conservatives are correct.]

You can also throw in the 2003 study that concluded that Conservatism is a mental illness.

Little Seizure is proof positive...emotionally devoid of a cognizant thought.

PIZZA! PIZZA!

Exito - well said. But she's making the most of it. I know what you mean about the righties posts. Oh well!

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oldfatguy .. . . did you seriously just state that all of those that watch Univision are closed minded people and that Mitt should dictate to THEM?????

Layton - the radical right is much more comfortable DICTATING to people. If people actually think, they know they won't vote Republican. Sad, isn't it?

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the radical right is much more comfortable DICTATING to people

Says Obamacare to the kettle. lefty liberal circular logic. too funny

If people actually think, they know they won't vote Republican. Sad, isn't it?

Santorum said it best, and truthfully....."we'll never have elite, smart people on our side"!

...the 'Our side' is the low-informed, following the guidance of the drug addict Limbaugh, and not concerned about the pathological lies of Romney/Ryan!

...and Yes, It really is Sad!

Layton...

What I said was he should say what he was thinking and not be a pandering democrat

Our country needs real leadership !

old fat guy ...

No you just insulted all of the Univision viewers by stating that someone who self-tans himself orange in a very feeble attempt to be likeable should dictate how his interview should go.

That is not leadership, that is bullying and racist.

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Layton...

When racist bullies start paying attention to the truth we will all be better off. The lie of political correctness is pricey indeed.

But you will not understand, look in the mirror for the racist bully

old fat guy,

I insulted the Candidate. You insulted me. Look in the mirror for a great understanding of what is truly wrong with this country.

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Layton...

You have no legitimate reason to insult the candidate except your own bigoted, racist, bullying mindset.

It must be really sad to be you.

old fat guy, I have every reason in the world to insult the candidate that continues to roam this country insulting my President.

I'm a happy, loving, progressive, liberal, Christian Democrat. That being said, why on EARTH are you an old fat guy? (I do get the old.)

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I get that you are a liberal.

I am older than you but probably not as fat as the name implies

people insult your president because he has not done his job.

his lack of leadership is fixing to do for foreign affairs what he has done to our economy

the truth is incontrovertible, you may attack it with malice but in the end truth always prevails

BARRACK OBAMA...FAILED LEADERSHIP !!!

I am a liberal and none of us liberals want our country to go further into debt with another "war" that this country cannot afford. Mitt has done NOTHING but insult our allies. If you think his little chit-chat with Netanyhu had any substance ...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/netanyahu-obama-backing-romney/story?id=17289324

I get that you believe the President has failed. Go back to your wonderful years of Bush, get out your pom poms and continue to root for all of his failed policies because R&R are not offering anything BUT that!

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Hate America...vote for a republican to prove it

Nope. To in love with her to hurt her. The Tea Bags? They hate everything she stands for.

The republicans have no love for Americans as the stinking pond scum republicans vote against jobs for our returning veterans proved.

What exactly were they voting against with the Veterans Job Bill?

PAYGO anyone? Wikipedia says this:

The Act was introduced in the House of Representatives on June 17, 2009, by Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Maryland) and has been cosponsored by 169 of the 257 HouseDemocrats.^[1]

The Act had initially passed the House of Representatives 265-166 as a standalone bill in July 2009, then was attached in the Senate to legislation raising the debt limit to $14.3 trillion. A majority of 241 Democrats supported the bill while a majority of 153 Republicans opposed it.

In the Senate, the amendment attaching pay-as-you-go language to the debt limit increase passed on a party-line vote of 60-40, and the debt limit bill subsequently passed 60-39.

After the House passed the bill by a vote of 233-187 on February 4, 2010, the bill was sent to Obama's desk. He signed it into law on February 12, 2010.^[2][3]

So the democrats wanted rules in place saying that legislation had to be paid for at the time it is passed, not with borrowed funds. They pushed through the bill and got it signed into law by the president. Except that now they don't want to follow those same rules. Interesting.

Let's fast forward to the piece of legislation that was JUST voted down...It was the

Veterans Job Corps Act of 2012!

The bill needed 60 votes to advance. The final tally was 58 to 40, and all 40 opponents of the proposal were Republicans.

As proposals go, this should have been a no-brainer. The Veterans Job Corps Act of 2012, sponsored by Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), sought to lower unemployment among military veterans, giving grants to federal, state, and local agencies, which in turn would hire veterans -- giving priority to those who served on or after 9/11 -- to work as first-responders and in conservation jobs at national parks.

The bill was fully paid for, and entirely bipartisan -- Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) had his own set of ideas for the bill, and Murray incorporated all of them into her legislation. And yet, all but five Senate Republicans voted to kill it anyway, 48 days before a national election. Even Burr sided with his party to defeat the bill, and it was filled with his provisions.

A New York Times editorial added the other day, "It makes sense for the 99 percent of Americans to find new ways to pay their debt to the 1 percent who serve in uniform. To most people, Senator Murray's bill would seem like one decent way to do that.

But not if you're one of those Republicans in Washington who thinks it's more important in an election year to deny Democrats a success or accomplishment of any kind."

The GOP/TP DO NOT care about anyone or anything but defeating President Obama by any means necessary!

@chilled:

got a link for that quote?

Navy times () says:

Supporters needed 60 votes and got only 58 to overcome an objection by Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., that the $1 billion in costs, although paid for through budgetary gimmicks, would have pushed VA over the spending limits set by last year’s Budget Control Act.

So basically the republicans are trying to follow the rules and the democrats just want their way?

Sounds a little childish.

Here ya' go Chef.......

As usual, the GOP/TP voted down amendments that they supported....All of a sudden they are concerned about spending limits in Budget Control Act, which they are now NOT supporting!....that whole sequestration thingy.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/09/military-veterans-job-corps-act-senate-091912w/

I hate to be fussy, but, nobody voted for or against that bill. Those repubs refused to allow the bill to be brought up for vote. Where a sufficient number of votes, 50 would of passed it.

Question: can a repub senator say he never voted against that bill?

4 more 4 44

chilled:

Let's take a step back and look at what the LAW says. It says, pay as you go.

The fact that the democrats are trying to skirt the law speaks volumes. I get that it is an election year and they are trying to pander to a group that traditionally don't support them, but the law is the law.

Those repubs refused to allow the bill to be brought up for vote.

Spot on! It's the GOP/TP way to control!

Chef, the cloture vote was to bring the bill forward. The 40 votes of the Republicans kept the bill form coming to the floor. This was NOT a "paygo" issue as this vote was simply to bring it forward.

Further, if you read the Army Times, paygo was further not truly applicable as "budgetary gimmicks" (like THAT'S anything new and has never been used by any Senator on either side of the aisle) per Sen. Sessions (R-Alabama) were used to offset the cost. He insisted that budgets be cut elsewhere to pay for this.

... with Romney, all the Islamic radicals would fear him so they would stop riots and calm down. Stretching the truth is getting old. If they simply said that Obama migh be understating the issue they might have a little more credibility.

Not if you're the Weather Vane. He thinks he's the second coming of St. Ronnie. Too bad he lacks charisma, has poor speaking ability and was born with a silver foot in his mouth.

What is it the RWNJs don't get? If "W" and Dick didn't scare them what chance does the Weather Vane have of doing so? That's right, NONE!

Yes jesse, isn't it wonderful to have such a tough minded President that he believes that the violent and torturous deaths of four American Diplomats are nothing more than "bumps in the road' to his Wonderful Foreign Polocy!

He's as tough when it comes to the death of other people as he is generous with the spending of other peoples money! What could possibly be wrong with these policies?

... about half the American servicemen and women are on food stamps,...

Jesse, And the sad fact is that this sorry state of affairs has been going on since long before I was in the military back in the early 1980s.

Bob in VA - they've shown polls with Romney ahead in the past. Please, try to keep up!

Obama/Biden 2012

Bob - precisley my question on previour poster. All this left wings listen only to left wing media, and it is no wonder that is the way they think. I just spoke to a very good girlfriend of mine who thought that government revenues came from something other than taxes. Well, this good freind of mine went and did her homework and was she surprised at the breakdown of what Revenue is.

Nothing but taxes equals Revenues for the government. She was quite surprised and by the way she is a liberal from NY.

So what do you expect frm someone like SS? He has been brought up on NBC she probabley thinks that CNN leans to the right. I would ask her to look at all media left and rght and middle, but I'm sure her brain has been already developed to follow blindly what ever NBC says.

jDoes anyone out there know what the deal is with Feisty and Bev?

jDoes anyone out there know what the deal is with Feisty and Bev?

they're suspended for being such nice individuals.

Just like you were, right CA?

Just like you were, right CA?

right and your point was what? Seeking Approval. I am shocked you didnt throw the word stupid in there.

Speaking of conspicuous absences, where is Xabre. I do enjoy how s/he tells everyone they need an education.

Speaking of conspicuous absences, where is Xabre.

who cares, it gets old with the same liberal diatribe 'you're stupid or get an education'. Most of them barely made it out of HS and think they have some intellectual void to fill by demeaning others intellect. Most don't have the credentials and if they do, I'd ask for a refund. Because you just spent 100k for brainwashing indoctrination believing government should be responsible for you.

Chef, Xabre's around . . .

CA . . .

Most of them barely made it out of HS and think they have some intellectual void to fill by demeaning others intellect

And you have a source for your statement that "most" of them barely made it out of HS or is that just one you fished out of your CA Pearls of Wisdom and Great Price handbook?????

"most" of them barely made it out of HS or is that just one you fished out of your CA Pearls of Wisdom and Great Price handbook?????

experience and mere observation shows that those are smart dont need remind everyone. Unless your a narcissist of course. So yeah pearl of wisdom it will be. its a chip on the old shoulder for you lefties. you own it.

but then i did say this

Most don't have the credentials and if they do, I'd ask for a refund. Because you just spent 100k for brainwashing indoctrination believing government should be responsible for you.

which one layton? I have you pegged for a refund.

CA ...

I was referencing and making a bit of fun about the Mormon doctrine book, Pearl of Great Price.

So sorry if it went over your head . . . just a little snarky Mormon humor. And I'm taking the refund comment as a compliment.

Obama/Biden 2012

blackcatwhitecat- okay, I'm sure that had to be to one of two posters - CA or Concern. Either way I'm lmao!

Obama/Biden 2012

Mockingbyrd

I wonder what eloquent words Mitt would have used to express his views of the 47%? I think someone should give him a second chance to clarify

An excellent question for a moderator to ask at the debate. I hope they take your suggestion!

Amy, I want the moderator to ask why anyone would sign an oath to Grover Norquist when they have been elected to represent this country. I really want an answer!

Obama/Biden 2012

Amy - that is a good question and I'm positive that it will be asked not once but in all presidential three debates.

Insanity and cat of many colors, Polls just give you a temperature of what it could be and as we all have said, "it anit over until November Elections.

However just to give you another view form polls other than your world of NBC, I'm posting Rasmussen for you, just to give you a little bit to think about..

Currently, 43% of voters nationwide are certain they will vote for Romney, and 41% are just as certain about voting for Obama. Three percent (3%) are likely to vote for Romney but could change their minds. Six percent (6%) say they expect to vote for Obama but could change their minds.

Electoral Map has it.

Rasmussen Reports

- Electoral College Breakdown

Safe Romney

178

Likely Romney

3

Leans Romney

15

Toss-up

105

Leans Obama

0

Likely Obama

21

Safe Obama

216

Real Clear Politics (RCP)
RCP (Average of polls) as of 9/19/2012 After Conventions, before 1st Debate
8 Tossup States: Obama leads in 7, Romney leads in 1.
Delegates: Obama = Solid(142)+Likely(37)+Lean(68) = 247 +Tossup(85) = 332
Delegates: Romney = Solid(76)+Likely(74)+Lean(41) = 191 +Tossup(15) = 206
Total Delegates: [332+206 = 538] Win = 270

Everyone agrees the polls are skewed left. RCP average or not.

Get the unbiased results.

unskewedpolls.com

It reflects the real world.

wow. i think there might be a slight tear in your tinfoil hat. might want to fix that before the 'Obama conspiracy team' TM is able to tap directly into your cerebellum and reprogram you into a worker drone...