Ad-spending update: $634 million spent, new groups on the scene

In just over the last four days, almost $30 million has been booked in presidential campaign ads. Television and radio ad spending across the country now tops $634 million, according to data provided to First Read from ad-buying firm SMG Delta.

Team Romney (the campaign, RNC, and outside groups supporting him) has expanded its advantage, spending $340 million to Team Obama’s $293 million.

Team Obama had been outspending Team Romney in Florida, Ohio, and Virginia. But now President Obama and his supporters only have an edge in Ohio and Colorado.

Two more outside groups have emerged onto the presidential scene with ad buys -- Americans for Job Security and Secure America Now.

Americans for Job Security has booked $8.7 million in ads across six battleground states, including $2.3 million in Florida, $1.8 million in Ohio, $1.2 million in North Carolina, $1 million in Virginia and Colorado, and $494,000 in Iowa.

Secure America Now is spending $501,000 all in Florida – and mostly in Ft. Myers and West Palm Beach -- with an ad that uses Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu.  They also placed $80,000 on cable in Miami.

TD Ameritrade founder Joe Ricketts’ group Ending Spending, which played in the primary, is pledging to spend $10 million on the race, the Wall Street Journal reported, but the bookings for those ads have not come across yet, according to SMG Delta.

Outside spending accounts $277 million, about 44 percent of the total – 80 percent of that money ($222 million) has gone to support Mitt Romney.

About 19 percent of the money supporting President Obama has come from outside groups ($55 million) whereas 65 percent of the money going to support Romney is from outside groups.

Here’s how the groups breakdown:

Obama $238,701,379
Romney $99,625,191
Crossroads GPS $60,772,380
American Crossroads $50,926,768
Priorities USA $49,494,474
AFP $46,469,165
Restore $43,421,505
RNC $18,703,104* (the RNC is not included in “outside spending” or as part of the campaign)
Americans for Job Security $8,667,287
CWA $4,783,656
American Future Fund $4,342,414
American Energy Alliance $2,491,572
SEIU $2,497,313
Planned Parenthood $1,447,734
Priorities/LCV $979,048
Secure America Now $501,533
MoveOn $166,891
Numbers USA $115,051

State spending:

FL $129,321,118
Team Romney $66,795,363
Team Obama $62,525,755

OH $122,485,400
Team Romney $58,399,632
Team Obama $64,085,768

VA $95,822,376
Team Romney $51,067,330
Team Obama $44,755,046

NC $59,960,865
Team Romney $37,855,010
Team Obama $22,105,855

CO $59,473,276
Team Romney $29,487,016
Team Obama $29,986,260

IA $48,612,965
Team Romney $25,319,350
Team Obama $23,293,615

NV $39,443,154
Team Romney $20,940,206
Team Obama $18,502,948

NH $28,415,277
Team Romney $14,355,976
Team Obama $14,059,301

PA $19,254,062
Team Romney $11,155,036
Team Obama $8,099,026

WI $16,931,285
Team Romney $11,282,307
Team Obama $5,648,978

MI $5,904,984
Team Romney $5,894,469
Team Obama $10,515

MN $3,146,098
Team Romney $3,146,098
Team Obama $0

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Well, Mn did get notices by Romney and Friends!!

Last poll had Obama ahead 50% to 40% in MN.

And we do have more electoral votes than Iowa, but Romney stradegy is a mystery still....

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 18 votes
#1 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:09 PM EDT

I can see why there's a Donkey for the Democratic Logo, because Democrats are JACKASSES!

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

F6 - It must really suck getting your ass kicked by us Jack-asses!

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O&Joe 2012

  • 18 votes
#1.2 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:21 PM EDT

GT - F6Zman gets his ass kicked by everyone. Little Shih Tzu's could kick his ass!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 17 votes
#1.3 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:42 PM EDT
Shady GDeleted

So are we counting the ads we Americans are putting on Pakistan TEEVEE?

O and Hillary have a lovely ditty out over there, talking all about that silly little movie.

'Cept now even the WH has admitted that silly little movie had nothing to do with the murder of our Libyan ambassador, so what's with the $70,000 Pakistani ad?

And what in the world is Susan "it was all about the movie, not the US" Rice up to this weekend? Anyone think she'll be up for another round of TEEVEE shows?

So in the end kids, score on for free speech and minus 1000 for the silly religion of the perpetually aggrieved.

  • 9 votes
#1.5 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:53 PM EDT
Shady GDeleted

GOP - one dollar one vote - from the Citizens United Case, thus SuperPacks of wolves drowning out people's voices

DEM - still one person one vote - but Photo ID laws passed by GOP will destroy this American dream

  • 15 votes
#1.7 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:16 PM EDT

With Romney's home state of Massachusetts and Ryan's state of Wisconsin firmly in the Obama camp, how can they possibly expect the rest of the country to follow them? Willard will give his usual sad performance at the debates and it will be all over for him, if it isn't finished already.

President Obama by default! There is a lot of money being spent by the SuperPacs but there doesn't seem to be anybody running against him!

  • 17 votes
#1.8 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:22 PM EDT
Shady GDeleted

You know, Shady, with a big enough crowbar you just might be able to pry your head out of the orifice in which it is stuck. You might want to look into that.

  • 18 votes
#1.10 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:30 PM EDT
Shady GDeleted

Obama's foreign policy is in ruins.

Funny. Romney's campaign is in ruins. Since he is not going to be elected, what is your point? Your senseless ravings have no bearing on reality, you know.

  • 17 votes
#1.12 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:59 PM EDT
Shady GDeleted

Now that we're only 46 days away from the first "Citizens United" campaign we can clearly see that President Obama was correct when he said;

“Last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law to open the floodgates for special interests -- including foreign companies -- to spend without limit in our elections,” Obama said tonight. “Well, I don’t think American elections should be bankrolled by America’s most powerful interests, and worse, by foreign entities. They should be decided by the American people, and that’s why I’m urging Democrats and Republicans to pass a bill that helps to right this wrong.”

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/01/obamas-state-of-the-union-address-criticism-of-the-supreme-court-campaign-finance-ruling.html

Americans knew he was right then, and Americans by a 2 to 1 margin STILL agree that money isn't speech, it's bribery.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2012/07/17/most_oppose_unlimited_corporate_campaign_spending/

  • 16 votes
#1.14 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:09 PM EDT

John,

Even with all this money being spent, Romney campaign is still spinning its wheels.

Sailcat,

"Funny. Romney's campaign is in ruins."

Heard on Rachel show tonight, Romney's surrogates are on their own tour.

Santorum, Jindahl, and Christy are where?

They are all appearing in IOWA in the next few days.

God, Romney's campaign is still breathing, but these guys have sent the sympathy cards and are moving on....

  • 15 votes
#1.15 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:26 PM EDT

The media storm on Benghazi will come.

I'm sure you have a lot of faith in your broken-down old Ouija board, but please believe me when I say your predictions are nothing but hot air and bull@!$%#. Romney is none and done. Read 'em and weep.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html

  • 13 votes
#1.16 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:26 PM EDT
Shady GDeleted

November is going to be a bloodbath

Then you will want to bring some wetwipes with you. You're going to be a mess!

  • 12 votes
#1.18 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:20 PM EDT

Pigotry - Posting the very same drivel all day long..........whether you like it or not.

Get a life and more than one line a day..

  • 4 votes
#1.19 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:02 AM EDT

Oh yes, Jindal and Santorum are already starting their 2016 campaigns by pandering to the Evangelical Right here in Iowa;

To curry favor with evangelical voters in Iowa, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum plan to be part of a statewide “No Wiggins Bus Tour” starting Monday. Its goal is to oust Iowa Supreme Court Justice David Wiggins, who is up for retention in November, for his part in a ruling that said under Iowa’s constitution, marriage licenses could not be denied to same-sex couples.

Iowa judicial retention elections are local. They are not partisan. They are not about issues. They are simply a way for Iowa voters to weed out incompetent or unethical judges.

Whatever moral or religious opposition some people may have to gay rights or gay marriage, when you have a unanimous Supreme Court decision by judges who were selected on a bipartisan basis, it cannot be called incompetence or wrongdoing. It’s called interpreting the constitution.

This campaign is nothing more than blackmail. It’s a continuation of the 2010 effort launched by Bob Vander Plaats, an unsuccessful candidate for governor, to punish every Iowa Supreme Court justice who was a part of that ruling in 2009. It’s a warning to future judges that if they vote a certain way, it could cost them their jobs.

http://abetteriowa.desmoinesregister.com/2012/09/21/basu-anti-wiggins-tour-could-flatten-judicial-independence-in-iowa/

The good news is that they're abandoning Romney. The bad news is that they're involving themselves in an effort to politicize the courts, destroy the independence and nonpartisan nature of the judiciary, and intimidate all those who administer justice in Iowa. Santorum and Jindal are demonstrating themselves to be the worst kind of authoritarians, those who use the tools of our representative democracy to attack the very government that was established by We the People.

  • 11 votes
#1.20 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:18 AM EDT

F6Zman

I can see why there's a Donkey for the Democratic Logo, because Democrats are JACKASSES!

You're just mad because you have to wait another four years until 2016 when your GOP 'shining star', Chris Christie, can personally embody the Republican logo: the ELEPHANT!

  • 10 votes
#1.21 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:07 AM EDT

Kaybeetoys: This Jersey boy loved that joke!!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 9 votes
#1.22 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:21 AM EDT

Pretty interesting about that ad, Spanky. . .

We know that the Cairo protests were actually about freeing the Blind Sheik- so, that expression of remorse released by the Embassy officials there was a diversion from the true cause;

We know that the Libayn attack was a planned, Al Queda act of war- there actually WAS no protest going on at the time;

We know that nobody knew anything at all about an amateur video until the administration began touting it- and continues to do so.

So, what the heck is going on here? Is Obama deliberately fomenting attacks on our people? Or is he just so damned determined to cover up his incompetence he actually doesn't care what damage he does?

Considering what he's done to the economy, to say nothing of what he did to his own party in 2010, I'm guessing the latter.

  • 4 votes
#1.23 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:00 AM EDT

Have any proof NJ, or is this just more of the unverifiable Conservative "truth" for which you're rightly infamous?

  • 7 votes
#1.24 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:39 AM EDT

Shady G is a REREG that is a PAID SHILL. He has been BANNED many many times, we have seen that laughing attached to MANY REREG'ed accounts that have been BANNED, and this present incarnation just started this month. NBC, Please get rid of this paid shill PERMANENTLY!

  • 7 votes
#1.25 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

[So, what the heck is going on here.]

Maybe you haven't figured it out yet NoJo, but what's going on here is what everyone else knows...seems you're a liar AND a hypocrite.

And as long as you want to hang your double-wide panties on conspiracy theories, well, that makes you a nutbag...fake PhD and all.

Oh and NoJo...if Hillary runs for POTUS in 2016, you gonna re-ignite that awesome crush you had on her in 2008? Cause I hear you put on quite the show..."tingles down your leg" awesome, in fact...

You were a Hillary supporter, no?

And just how much are you pulling down from that big fat teacher's pension check, compliments of the NJ taxpayer?

Hypocrite.

  • 10 votes
#1.26 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:24 AM EDT

Welcome back Mickey!!

  • 6 votes
#1.27 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:25 AM EDT

Thanks John...didn't even know what happened till after it was over (kinda like a colonoscopy).

Little Seizure pointed it out to me. Seems it bothers him more than it bothers me, but then again EVERYTHING bothers him. ;)

  • 7 votes
#1.28 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:46 AM EDT

Hey Mickey.......welcome back, we missed you. Great return post too

  • 7 votes
#1.29 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:46 AM EDT

Thanks GbM!

Say, was it you that wondered if Feisty has to wear one of those ankle monitoring devices while under "house arrest"?

Classic!

  • 7 votes
#1.30 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:50 AM EDT

Mitt the bully, as exibited in preppy school when he cut the boy's hair, would take us back to the cowboy diplomacy of Dubya. Shoot first and ask questions later is no way to gain trust and admiration of others. Fear is no way to govern. That was tried and everywhere it has been tried it eventually failed big time. Nazi Germany, The Soviet Union, Iraq, Idi Amin's Uganda, just to name a few such countries.

When we have ambassadors in dangerous parts of the world things are going to happen. That particular ambassador didn't want the heavy security as he prefered to be with the people of the country.

There is a nation wide effort to eliminate bullying in our schools and on our streets. We should not bully any other nation either. Gentlemen settle differences with words, thugs with fear and intimidation.

  • 7 votes
#1.31 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

Mickey - welcome back from your timeout! Just be careful not to wander off the reservation in the future!

No joe with a PhD? You've gotta be kidding me. I'd be very surprised if she even has a B.A. However, she's clearly always full of BS!

We did miss you terribly!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 3 votes
#1.32 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

Northstar.....the difference between Iowa and Minnesota is pretty basic. The Republicans haven't won Minnesota in like 50 years, not even in 1984 when they won 49 states and Massachusetts.

Whereas, they won Iowa in 2004 with Bush, and led there in a poll last week.

    #1.33 - Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:54 PM EDT

    But Obama is ahead in two out of three polls in Iowa. It's pretty basic: the Prez is going to take Iowa, too:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/ia/iowa_romney_vs_obama-1922.html

    • 2 votes
    #1.34 - Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:34 PM EDT
    Reply

    Team Romney (the campaign, RNC, and outside groups supporting him) has expanded its advantage, spending $340 million to Team Obama’s $293 million.

    All the money in the world isn't going to buy this election for NitMitt. But I just love watching the GNOP @!$%#s spend it.....

    -

    O&Joe 2012

    • 15 votes
    Reply#2 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

    All the money in the world isn't going to buy this election for NitMitt.

    I wish I could believe that - unfortunately, Citizens United allows unlimited donations to SuperPacs from wealthy individuals, corporations, and even foreign governments. With corporations holding onto 2 trillion in cash, they have the means to push these current number to levels we have never seen. We don't know how much Israel is giving to Romney - 0.00, a billion, a trillion. Hopefully, the Chinese have quit giving to Romney - he has been none to kind to them on the campaign trail.

    • 8 votes
    #2.1 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:17 AM EDT

    This election could be bought... which is why the American people have got to turn off Honey Boo Boo, get up off their couches, and go VOTE to re-elect President Obama, a true and tested leader.

    We must stubbonly refuse to let our democracy be bought, at any price!

    Republicans are always talking about 'American exceptionalism'... well, one person, one vote is one of the main reasons we are exceptional. It is a travesty that we hold ourselves up as superior to the rest of the world, that we monitor the elections of other countries, and yet we are fighting tooth and nail to have a free and fair election in the U.S.A.

    After we re-elect President Obama. we need to get rid of Citizens United (talk about Orwellian names...)!!!

    • 11 votes
    #2.2 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:21 AM EDT

    RedDevPS & KayBeeToys: Very well said. Willard greatest weapon is compliancy among the democrat voters, we must get out and vote.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 9 votes
    #2.3 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:28 AM EDT
    Reply

    Two pointless campaigns considering Obama and Romney are the same thing: Obomney.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#3 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:13 PM EDT

    Hey F6Zman,

    I tried hitting you up on a different post but to no avail. I'll try here and hopefully you check it out.

    I saw you have a lot of cited sources on some of your posts and was wondering if you could help me.

    Do you know how much the LDS church has given the Romney campaign? Also if the President has given any tax free contributions to a church who later donated to his campaign that would be great too. Either one, party doesn't matter. Need a cited source though. Any help would be apreciated.

    • 6 votes
    #3.1 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:26 PM EDT

    LASER-

    Churches and religious organizations are prohibited from contributing to political campaigns. If Governor Romney's church or President Obama's contributed to their campaigns, the churches would risk losing their tax exempt status.

    http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Charitable-Organizations/The-Restriction-of-Political-Campaign-Intervention-by-Section-501(c)(3)-Tax-Exempt-Organizations

    • 6 votes
    #3.2 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:46 PM EDT

    Thanks Candice, I didn't get that to open. Said under construction, but I was able to navigate around a little bit and get some info on it. It is still possible, but not transparently through the use of "super pacs." The "campaign" doesn't get it so my wording was incorrect, but how much did they spend on ads to support him.

    • 1 vote
    #3.3 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:00 AM EDT

    Northstar.....the difference between Iowa and Minnesota is pretty basic. The Republicans haven't won Minnesota in like 50 years, not even in 1984 when they won 49 states and Massachusetts.

    Whereas, they won Iowa in 2004 with Bush, and led there in a poll last week.

      #3.4 - Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:48 PM EDT

      President Obama leads in two out of three polls in Iowa. It's pretty basic: the prez is going to take that state:

      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/ia/iowa_romney_vs_obama-1922.html

      • 1 vote
      #3.5 - Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:35 PM EDT
      Reply

      $634 million - is no one sickened by that number? How many children living in poverty would that money have provided a hot meal, a good pair of shoes and a warm coat? - How many homless veterans would that have given a chance at recovery? - How many schools lacking in books and equipment would that have provided for? - How many small town library's would that have assisted? - how many small town roads would that money have provided safe streets for?

      Is no one sickened by that number? My vote is not for sale. I do not vote for the person who has raised the most money. I vote my consience, I vote for the person I think that will put us on the path to that golden place we were when we were the sleeping giant. And we were the giant. We fed and rebuilt Europe. We did, not russia, not china; we did.

      Issue: we need a third choice. where have all the good candidates gone? 'gone to flowers everyone'

      • 9 votes
      Reply#4 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:17 PM EDT

      We have Gary Johnson! Google Search him!

      • 2 votes
      #4.1 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:19 PM EDT

      Kate, I completely agree! You listed the many ways money like that could do some actual good for people. Instead it's spent on negativity dividing people.

      I also agree with Seeking (below). Campaigns should run 3 months tops.

      As for third party candidates....it seems like such a good idea but then 2/3rd's of the country would be unhappy their guy didn't win. I'd rather see two people running on a no party ticket. That way the candidates would be able to present their honest views, not be forced to conform entirely to Democrats or Republicans views, or to pander to the usual support assumed groups.

      • 9 votes
      #4.2 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:22 PM EDT

      all the money spent is crazy. then the only thing they can do is sling mud at each other in there ads. when Romney picked Ryan as his vp running mate there was a ad against him being run that same day up here in the north.

      • 2 votes
      #4.3 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:44 PM EDT

      Kate/ It would be great to find a bunch of Rep.s who would fit your criteria,but the behaviour of our present candidates would not fit any standard of reasonable behaviour. Allowing our employees to set their own benefits ,wages ,hours,accomplishments ,morals,punishment for immoral conduct and all of the other modes of conduct will never ,in this moral climate solve even the most rudimentary honourable behaviour from our elected representatives.

      • 2 votes
      #4.4 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:20 PM EDT
      Reply

      Kate - I'd love to see limits put on the Presidential campaigning. No one could spend more than $10 million - no Super PACS at all. And, they could only campaign 3 months. Anyone who doesn't abide by the rules can't be on the ballot. We'd actually have discussions about the things that matter and it would be over and done!

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 12 votes
      Reply#5 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

      And in addition, the incumbent would be limited to 2.5 million. After all, he has his record to run on right?

      • 3 votes
      #5.1 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:04 AM EDT

      Talk - no, $10 million for each candidate. Otherwise we could just as easily say the incumbent's opponent has THEIR record, whatever it is, to run on.

      • 2 votes
      #5.2 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

      The opponent has nothing on the national stage but what may filter out of his last position. Good, bad, or indiffernt. you have to let the opponent get his case across. The incumbent however, has his/her record and should need nothing else but a subtle reminder.

      • 1 vote
      #5.3 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:58 PM EDT
      Reply

      Kate:

      All valid points. But we spend close to one trillion every year on our national defense and intelligence. At what point do we rethink that? I believe in helping war veterans and I believe in supporting the troops. But perhaps at least a decade of peace would be nice. Those European allies of ours, that we often ridicule, sometimes go 20 to 30 years without war.

      As for our democracy, we have to be willing to demonstrate to change it. We have to be willing to find news sources again that we can all trust. And in the primaries, perhaps we should go out of our way to pick the more principled and less commercial of the candidates. Otherwise, we just get the same old crap.

      You're right, we do need a third and perhaps a fourth party. But it goes back to money. The media pays no attention to candidates with less than five million dollars in the bank. And the first reports in the primary season are almost SOLELY about how much money each candidate has raised. These problems have only been made worse by the Citizens United opinion. Our campaigns are too much about money. The politicians raise money year 'round. And they become beholden to the big donors. (Look at that Sheldon Adelson creep that made Newt Gingrich into a puppet.)

      And then there are so many warring half-truths and untruths in the TV ads, the average voter is left with less valid information upon which to base a choice.

      But I do believe that Barack Obama does as well as anyone has in the past few decades in trying to remain true to his core principles. You may not like his healthcare bill, but he promised it. He promised to make changes in the tax code to help ordinary citizens, and he has (and would have done more if not for all of the filibustering). He promised to end the wars, and he has ended one and is well on his way to ending the other. Sure, the economy could be better, but do you really think anyone could have caught the economy in free fall, turned it around, and have us all in clover in four years? When the banks failed? When the auto companies were failing? When the housing market was in a depression? History will reveal him to have been a good president. Unfortunately, millions of voters hate him and always will.

      • 9 votes
      Reply#6 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:47 PM EDT

      I find it really depressing that the American electorate generally elects the candidate who can afford the most commercials.

      When did we become so shallow?

      I'm just glad that Obama doesn't have the three-to-one advantage he had over McCain.

      • 7 votes
      Reply#7 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:50 PM EDT

      NBC FR - I have a request to make. Please let Feisty and Beverly come back. I don't know what they did, but this is a country of free speech and even if I do not agree with the crap that they put out they should not be silence.

      This is request is coming from a black latina woman (nick named Blatina) who will vote for Romney/Ryan. I just want it you to know that.

      • 6 votes
      Reply#8 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:54 PM EDT

      CC - That would require NBC to scrap their Code of Honor. I think that the kind of personal attacks that Feisty and Beverly were known for stifle civilized discussion. Should we choose their "clever" misspellings, personal insults, and childish name-calling, over rational civilized discussion? I say no.

      If we condone their behavior, Newsvine would quickly devolve into hate-filled screaming matches that would make the WWF preliminaries sound like Masterpiece Theater.

      • 7 votes
      #8.1 - Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:23 PM EDT

      Amen Kannin

      • 5 votes
      #8.2 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:05 AM EDT

      Free speech rules over censorship in America.

      Bring them back now!

      We like to have competition. I am also a Tea Party activist.

      The Tea Party does not care if you are Democratic, Republican or Independent.

      The Tea Party is for the Republic that America was founded upon.

      • 3 votes
      #8.3 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:51 AM EDT
      Shady GDeleted

      They haven't been banned- they've been suspended for a week.

      Personally, I've been struck by the difference between discussions on the "NBC Politics" threads, and those on First Read. On the former, usually those who engage in ad hominem attacks and juvenile name calling stay within the bounds of adult conversations. I've thought for some time that First Read would be a better site if they had the same standards of moderation as NBC Politics-but, alas, it seems that will never come to pass.

      Nevertheless, it looks like a couple of people didn't bother to notice the banner at the top of the thread. I'd like to think they'll learn something from this- but I have my doubts.

      • 5 votes
      #8.5 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:07 AM EDT

      Actually they sometimes move threads from First Read to NBC Politics. It's easy to get caught in that.

      Of course why would I tell you? You've just engaged in an ad hominem attack yourself just them.

      Pot, meet kettle.

      • 6 votes
      #8.6 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:46 AM EDT

      [Nevertheless, it looks like a couple of people didn't bother to notice the banner at the top of the thread.]

      Nevertheless, it looks like lying hypocrites such as yourself don't bother to get all the facts on a subject, such as where the article was posted in the first place, before commenting on it...

      ...PhD huh...oh the humanity!

      • 4 votes
      #8.7 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:58 AM EDT
      Reply

      Two dollars for every American so far.

      I guess the old saying of getting my two cents worth has turned into two dollars worth.

      Today's dollar is worth around 2.38 cents.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#9 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:44 AM EDT

      So you'll join me in calling for passage of the DISCLOSE act? It's time to put an end to the legalized bribery of Citizens United.

      • 9 votes
      #9.1 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:48 AM EDT
      Reply

      Wake Up America.

      The 1% is every man, woman and child in America.

      The 99% is the rest of the World.

      Obama's only HOPE is to CHANGE America into a third world country like Kenya where he was born.

      If Obama is re-elected Obama will move FORWARD to destroy America.

      • 8 votes
      Reply#10 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:57 AM EDT

      You probably didn't notice but the republicans broke America before President Obama was elected. It just slipped your mind that the market crash, people loosing their homes, jobs and life's savings were all republican policies.

      The very same policies that Romney wants to return to except for more and permanent tax cuts for himself.

      Interesting that the republicans want endless war, but don't want to support our veterans when they come home. Republicans actually voted against jobs for our veterans. I guess I forgot wearing a flag pin or using the word God means you are patriotic not how we treat our veterans.

      VOTE FOR AMERICA....VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012

      • 10 votes
      #10.1 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:55 AM EDT

      He didn't notice. As a Birther he's been immunized against facts and reality. Only the conspiracy theory matters.

      • 9 votes
      #10.2 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:50 AM EDT

      Trash from a birther piece of trash. Our President Obama is going to win this coming election. He was qualified to run and win the election because his mother came from Kansas which makes him a U.S. citizen. Barrack Obama was born in Hawaii and that means he is a U.S. citizen. I don't know how dumb that makes you with your birther idiocy, or how dumb you think people are when they looked for the qualifications necessary to run for president that all candidates have to meet. That is why the Supreme Court would not go along with the lunacy of you right wing fanatics who are the sorriest and most racist people in our country.

      • 3 votes
      #10.3 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:46 AM EDT
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      Do yourself a favor and vote a Tea Party candidate into office.

      It will be good for America and the rest of the World too.

      We the people need to get our country back to its roots.

      The Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.

      GOD Bless America. Land of the Free Home of the Brave. United We Stand Divided We Fall.

      • 7 votes
      Reply#11 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:04 AM EDT

      Voting the current Tea Partiers into office got us nothing but a fiscal downgrade and wars against women and voting by the "wrong people." The fiscal paralysis they've enforced in Congress and the massive austerity programs they've inflicted upon the states have only prolonged the pain of the Great Recession, itself caused by over a generation of Conservative economic principles.

      But good luck in your quest to repeal the 20th Century.

      • 8 votes
      #11.1 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

      "Wars against Women" lol, I thought you pathetic leftwing trash dropped that ruse already.

      Or you have to keep up the fantasy until Nov. 6th right?

      Errrr...we tried to force a new law on Catholics making them provide contraception, which they didn't like and that means there's a War on Women now?

      Kill yourselves, you stupid, emotional human garbage.

        #11.2 - Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

        Kill yourselves, you stupid, emotional human garbage.

        Really, Chesty? You seem even more irrational than usual today. Is everything going well for you at the home?

        • 3 votes
        #11.3 - Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:37 PM EDT

        You have an entertaining and innovative definition of "ruse." For people living outside of Conserativeland the dozens of bills introduced (and in many cases passed) around the nation to overturn equal pay, restrict access to contraception, eliminate abortion, and a lot more are reality, not "ruse."

        That's closer to "legitimate rape" than anything Republican candidate Akin had in mind.

        • 1 vote
        #11.4 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:56 AM EDT
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        The tea party members are the reason we have the most worthless do nothing congress in our history, just why would we want more of them?

        Ryan is a tea party darling and he wants to raise your taxes to pay for more tax cuts for himself. So tell me just how is that good for America?

        If you really want to return to the constitution then get the religious wackos out of our government like the founders intended. The word God is the republicans new flag pin.

        Funny how the republicans claims to be so patriotic but when it comes to passing a jobs bill for our veterans well the republicans just couldn't bring themselves to support our veterans. It takes some pretty low pond scum to vote against jobs for our war veterans.

        Just how can we be free when the republicans and their tea party friends want to make women into second class citizens with the government in charge of her body? Doesn't sound like the home of the free to me.

        Being united means we support each other in disasters and don't tell other states you are on your own. It means medicare and social security for our elderly to take care of us in our old age. These programs ended real suffering and made us better as a nation. Remember united we stand divided we fall.

        VOTE FOR AMERICA...VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012

        • 8 votes
        Reply#12 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:38 AM EDT

        How soon before Republican donors realize they're wasting their money?

        • 7 votes
        Reply#13 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:32 AM EDT

        Hopefully not soon enough to shift their money to Congressional races.

        • 6 votes
        #13.1 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:58 AM EDT
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        And for good reason: Most Americans have been dumbed-down by the corporate-controlled media, to a population of non-critical, vision/sound-bite junkies!! In that ad arena, lies and half-truths rein supreme!!

        • 1 vote
        Reply#14 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:37 AM EDT

        Looks like the Senate will revert to Republican control.

        This means Old Harry "WHOREHOUSE" Reid will no longer be Senate majority leader. This means the bills that have been crafted, and passed in the House, and have been collecting dust on Harry's desk, will finally be introduced in our Senate. They can be discussed, changed, voted on, or sent back to the House for further review. This is how our system is supposed to work.

        Harry Reid has been the number one obstructionist in our government. Never allowing any bill passed in the house to even be introduced in the Senate.

        That old fossil has to be put out to pasture.

        The House id totally up for grabs, and I expect people to vote along straight party lines more than ever before. If Mitt Romney carries the day, then expect the House to become even more Republican than before.

        If Romney prevails on November 6th, there is a chance that he may have the backing of congress for at least the first two years of his first term. Hopefully this time won't be wasted, and he will get the business of America well underway.

        Romney/Ryan 2012, and 2016

        • 4 votes
        Reply#15 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

        Only if by "looks like" you mean unlikely.

        Of the 8 remaining toss up states Republicans would need to keep ALL the seats they currently hold AND flip 3 out of 5 of those currently held by Democrats. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/senate/2012_elections_senate_map.html

        But why let facts get in the way of your chosen message?

        • 5 votes
        #15.1 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:30 AM EDT
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        The NBC Politics lead page has an interesting analysis: “A look at the candidates through social media” It shows that users of Facebook and Twitter intend to vote for Romney over Obama 36% to 32%, and express mostly negative feelings about Obama and mostly positive feelings about Romney.

        All polls are skewed by the group of people they choose to sample from, of course, but I would think that these would be a relatively young bunch. What would make them so much more favorable for Romney?

        • 3 votes
        Reply#16 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

        Facebook has also been deleting accounts of left leaning people and their organizations while leaving blatantly racist ones to exist. This has actually been documented on numerous occasions, so it is no wonder that the polls are skewed.

        • 3 votes
        #16.1 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

        Yah right, B Honest.

        • 1 vote
        #16.2 - Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:57 PM EDT
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        • Finally, Republican fat cats are trickling down to the media. There is a bright side to legalizing undemocratic corruption.
          Reply#17 - Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

          www.ourcommunistcommanderinchief.com ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,copy and paste

          A video about Obama and his REAL father.

            Reply#19 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:47 AM EDT

            www.NobodyGivesa@!$%#.com.........because nobody cares about your neo-fascist bull@!$%#, Rangewolf,.

            • 4 votes
            #19.1 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:49 AM EDT

            Sailcat

            Speak for yourself. There are people out there that care about our country, apparently you're not one of them.

            www.ourcomministcommanderinchief.com................................Copy and Paste......Watch

            Who is Obama's REAL father?................Who is the REAL Obama?

            A full length movie with TRUE facts. Send to everyone you know.

            • 1 vote
            #19.2 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:19 AM EDT

            I care about my country a great deal. That's why I show up here regularly to call BS on Conservative BSers who misuse the tools of our open society to spread hatred and lies.

            You have the right to say whatever you want. I have the right to point out your message is purest of fringe, radical Conservative nonsense with no basis whatsoever in fact.

            • 2 votes
            #19.3 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

            John B,

            Watch the movie before you make judgement about me. Are you afraid you will find out the truth about your Messiah Obama? If you care at all about our country you will take the time to watch it.

            • 1 vote
            #19.4 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:06 PM EDT

            Your fantasy world must be a dark and smelly place, Rangewolf. It's people like you that the GOP needs to broom out of its constituency if it ever hopes to regain its credibility. The insane political ideology of the right wing lunatic fringe is being rejected by normal Americans and the fact that your feeble-minded candidate is losing the election by a wide margin only serves to highlight that point.

            Face it, Rangewolf. Your creepy brand of extremist far-right fiction has failed to attract the support of America in any positive sense. You are a loser.

            • 3 votes
            #19.5 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

            Birtherism is done, disproven, as discredited as crop circles.

            History will not look well upon this time when the Republican Party mainstreamed crazy.

            • 1 vote
            #19.6 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:00 AM EDT
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            Stop. You might as well just stop. All of you. Republicans, Democrats, whatever. It's all completely ridiculous. None of this bullsh!t matters at all. It doesn't matter who becomes president or who does not. Do you really think that the guy who lives in the white house has any power to do anything at all whatsoever? This is all a bunch of crap. It really doesn't matter. No matter who is in the white house, congress, (who, by the way do nothing) will sit on their asses and not do anything. They are the people who run this country. And they do nothing at all. They take a bunch of vacations and they sit about in conference rooms and do nothing. I should know. I work for the government. It takes 28 signatures to buy a box of pencils. These guys are ALL fools who do nothing but sit around and talk about football.

              Reply#20 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:26 AM EDT

              I don't agree. When the Democrats had the House when President Obama was elected Democrats worked hard to help the people of the country who were in dire need when we were in a very serious recession. Then voters elected the most rabidly republican people who have done nothing because they are there to do the work for corporations that want to end regulations and want to harm our environment worse than they already have. And unlike Democrats who stayed on the job republicans have taken vacation after vacation. Work has not been what they really wanted to get done. They sure weren't there for job creation that they said they were going to do. That is why we need Democrats back in power in the House working to help this country and our people with job training, infrastructure and getting people back to work.

              • 2 votes
              #20.1 - Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:03 AM EDT
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              Really. I'm sorry to burst all your bubbles but none of these people have your back. They really don't give a crap about you. They just sit about and talk about football or baseball or basketball or whatever sort of ball is taking place at the time and they laugh and their big paychecks are deposited in their bank accounts and they laugh and go to the ball games and they laugh and have nice dinners with their families and the friends of their families. They really, really, really don't give a crap about you. All they know is that they are fat and happy and the steak is on the grill and wifey-poo is in the kitchen mixing up some potato salad to go with the angus beef steaks. They don't care about you. They are too busy having their cook-outs in Georgetown. I'm telling you and I know first hand...none of them care about you. Okay. Yeah. Vote. (Yay! Let's get the vote out!) It makes no difference at all. None whatsoever. I'm telling you...They Don't Give A Crap.

                Reply#21 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:47 AM EDT

                I'm not a 99 percenter or whatever the hell that whole Occupy Wall Street thing was supposed to be. I'm an old woman. I'm not rich at all. I go to work every day because I have to. I'm an old, black woman who has worked for many years for the government and I just think you all should know that THEY. DON'T. CARE. They really, really, really don't care about you. They really don't. It doesn't matter which "party" you're talking about. These guys don't give a crap about you. They really don't. I sometimes sit back on my couch after work and laugh about all of this nonsense.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#22 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:00 AM EDT

                IMPEACH OBAMA !!

                Who is Obama's REAL father?.................................Who is the REAL Obama?

                Why has Obama failed to show his Real birth certificate? Who has been financing Obama? Why

                hasn't he made his college transcripts public? Why does he want you to vote before this

                information is acknowledged by the public?

                www.ourcommunistcommanderinchief.com...........................Copy and Paste.......Watch

                A full length movie with the TRUE facts.

                  Reply#23 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:02 PM EDT

                  Still hanging around NobodyGivesa@!$%#.com., Rangewolf? You must be very lonely in your dimly lit fantasy world, little guy.

                  • 1 vote
                  #23.1 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:05 PM EDT
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                  Sailcay

                  Shut the fu*k up!! You may NOT want to know the truth about Obama but there are people out there that cares about our country that does.

                    Reply#24 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

                    Yes, people would like to know more about President Obama, but they also KNOW that, no, he is not a communist, he is not a Marxist, he is not even a socialist. He is not Muslim, he happens to be a Christian American, born on American soil from an American mother and on top of it, has been doing an outstanding job of GOVERNING even when faced with the most outlandish, extremist, obstructively racist Repub Congress in 150 years!

                    So YOU can go in your corner, pout and shut yerself up, us adults do not want to hear it!

                    • 2 votes
                    #24.1 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:46 PM EDT

                    Sailcay

                    Shut the fu*k up!!

                    Uh oh! I think you lower lip is starting to quiver, Rangewolf. Your arguments are as incoherent as ever, but their tone has become an octave higher and more shrill. Don't worry. You'll feel better after President Obama is reelected and reality reasserts itself into your sad, pathetic little life.

                    • 2 votes
                    #24.2 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:53 PM EDT

                    You people are so afraid of learning the truth about you phony Messiah. Why don't you take some time out of your non-busy day and learn what he REALLY is. His REAL father is Frank Marshall Davis, did you know that? Watch the darn movie and you will learn what a real phony he is. SHEEPLE !!!

                      #24.3 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:04 PM EDT

                      Trust me, no one is afraid of your fantasies, your candidate, or especially of you, Rangewolf. You are just a hysterical voice crying out in the wilderness.

                      • 2 votes
                      #24.4 - Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:11 PM EDT
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                      Some of you don't make too much sense. Obama is being blamed for getting 3 people killed. Compare and contrast that with over 6,000 and trillions of dollars down the drain. What is it .00000000000000000000000001 or something. First of all any life lost is tragic. But when you use it for stupidity it gets much worse. When and how did some of you get so absolutely clueless and nothing that happens seems to change that. Your mind is stuck in gear and thats it. You don't realize you are completely clueless of facts or history. Or anything.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#25 - Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:45 AM EDT

                      I looked up Frank Marshall Davis. I don't think he compares at all with Ayn Rand. A russian athiest who Paul Ryan admits freely that he follows and has for 25 years. He even used to have required reading for his staff of her work. I love how some throw out the communist scare. You mean you want the 1% to tell the other 99 what to do. And do you want them to have to work so much they need barbed wire to keep other workers out. Do you mean Obama wants a few rich to rule the other 47% or more? And that he isn't concerned about them at all. I like your description but you got the wrong guy. You guys keep throwing the word communist around but it matches Romney and Ryan and doesn't even hint at what Obama wants. At all. Too bad you guys can't reason or use logic either. And just like HItler the teaparty says pretty words and gets you to think one thing but notice they have never said they believe that. And they don't want to tell you what they stand for til they are elected. We have seen enough of WAlker, Kasich, Rand Paul and the rest of the do nothing congress Bachmann included to realize they are just bad for the country in every way. They have a plan but I don't know if it is based on Ayn Rand or who but I do know it would not be good for our country. The downgrade of our credit rating and they showed not a care should be the first warning. Kick them out. If they want to ruin some country let them go find a wilderness and start their own. The majority rules even if they are trying to lessen that majority with voter restrictions. Another communist tactic the Dems are doing. Well no! It is sad we have so many willing and gullible pawns.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#26 - Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:56 AM EDT

                      above person is a communist, using the 1% Commie propaganda.

                      Even though 15% of the country makes 100K, and half are over 44K.

                        #26.1 - Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:59 PM EDT
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