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HANOVER, NH -- Vice President Joe Biden on Friday called Mitt Romney's characterization of the American electorate during a spring fundraiser "profoundly wrong" and declared "this is not a country of victims."
Listing off a series of typical Americans who benefit from government aid -- an elderly widow on Social Security, a veteran now in college because of GI Bill, or a working couple who receive a child care credit -- Biden accused Romney of labeling hard-working Americans as "dependent."
"He thinks all these folks, he thinks these folks believe they’re entitled. That they’ve become dependent, they see themselves as victims who wont take responsibility for their own lives," Biden said, raising his voice before a crowd of 1,300 at Dartmouth College. "How could he be so profoundly wrong about America. How is that possible? Not in my neighborhood. Not where I grew up. Not the people I know."
Quoting his father, Biden won cheers for professing that the majority of Americans agree with the sentiment that "I don’t expect the government to solve my problems, but at least it’s got to understand my problems."
On Monday, Mother Jones published the secretly recorded video of a May fundraiser at which Romney lamented the "47 percent" of Americans who support Obama because they "who are dependent upon government."
Earlier this week in Iowa, Biden declined to answer reporters' questions about the controversial video at least three times, saying only that he would "let his words speak for themselves." But the vice president did not hold his fire Friday as he kicked off a two day tour of New Hampshire, telling college students that "this is not a country of victims."
Ryan Williams, a spokesman for the Romney campaign, responded in a statement: "Mitt Romney will be a president for 100 percent of Americans, with a plan for a stronger middle class that adds millions of jobs, get our economy growing, and results in more upward mobility, not government dependence."
On Friday, Biden also hit his GOP counterparts on education, saying that the budget backed by Romney running mate Paul Ryan would "eviscerate" education programs.
"It will literally mortgage the future of this great country at this moment of incredible international competition," he said.
Biden's pitch for Democrats' education initiatives wasn't the only instance of the collegiate atmosphere at the outdoor rally on Dartmouth's campus, which sparkled under a picture-pefect autumn afternoon.
At the beginning of the rally, Dr. Jill Biden, the vice president's wife, earnestly professed to the crowd in her introduction of her husband that she has "seen Joe up close."
That comment - interpreted as a double entendre by the young crowd, fostered an eruption of giggles that crescendoed as she continued on to praise his "big strong heart."
"It's in my remarks, really!" she added laughingly as her husband beamed.
"I want you all to know that the only reason I hang around is so she can see me up close," Biden joked as he took the podium, resulting in a fresh wave of snickers. "You can tell you're on a college campus, man."
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Here is Barack Obama's Main Accomplishments
Barack Obama's Main Accomplishments:
Signed the National Defence Authorization Act (NDAA) Bill into Law allowing any US citizen to Be Detained WITHOUT trial (A federal Court Blocked it in May because it Violates the Constitution, but Obama is now trying to get it UNBLOCKED!). (Source: http://www.rt.com/usa/news/obama-indefinite-detention-forrest-070/ )
He has Killed HUNDREDS of Innocent people (Including 3 American Citizens) in Pakistan and Yemen with Drone Strikes (He's Ordered even more drone strikes than Bush!). (Source: http://www.slate(DOTcom/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2012/06/obama_drone_strikes_the_president_ordered_more_than_george_w_bush.html )
The rate of National Debt under George Bush was Around $60 Billion a Month. Under Obama, it's been $190 Billion a Month, so that would be Nearly $600 Per US Citizen (Thanks Obama!). (Source: http://cnsnews.com/node/72404 and http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57400369-503544/national-debt-has-increased-more-under-obama-than-under-bush/ )
Obama has By-passed Congress to Enable the DREAM Act (Unconstitutional to By-Pass Congress, and the Illegals he allowed to become Legal Citizens has Committed over 19 Murders and Over 142 Sex crimes). (Source: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-orders-his-own-version-of-the-dream-act-video/ and http://www.westernjournalism.com/breaking-documents-show-obama-implemented-dream-act-despite-congress-rejection/ )
Obama Claims he Campaigned in 57 States (Maybe he wasn't Born in this Country?). (Source: http://www.youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=OrsBKGpwi58 and http://www.latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html )
Obama abused his powers and ATTACKED Libya without congressional Approval (Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/22/world/africa/22powers.html?_r=1
Obama has repealed the law prohibiting people with AIDS/HIV to travel to the United States. (Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/31/us/politics/31travel.html?_r=0
ANYONE BESIDES OBAMA IN 2012! Replace Democrats with third-Parties!
If Obama is that bad a president, the Republicans should have put forward somebody who can beat him. Still early, still debates and all that. But so far it looks like they didn't and the president will have a second term.
Bush was about the same as Obama, Romney won't be as bad but still not great. Your best bet is to vote for Gary Johnson! Libertarian! Live Free!
F6Zman - At least we'll never have to find out about bumbling Romney! He's gone 11/7/2012!
Obama/Biden 2012 and replace the do nothing Republicans in Congress with Democrats and Independents!
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1970204/pg1
Just one more place Zman likes to post his crap.
@RedDevPS How did you find that?
Actually I like Johnson. I wish the Republicans had paid more attention to him in the primaries. He's got libertarian leanings, which I share. But he's also got a sense of pragmatism about him. He's less of a pure libertarian than is Ron Paul, which allows Johnson to avoid some of the usual pitfalls (assuming you agree the drug war has not only been a failure but counterproductive in that it makes the associated problems worse - there, Johnson is pretty much a full-on libertarian).
But the only question for the LP is whether they pull .1 or .2 percent of the vote. So it's going to be Obama or Romney next January, and given what we've seen so far, odds are looking better that will be Obama.
F6Z - if you want to get anywhere with that list of yours, I'd suggest stop harping on the 57 states thing. It can sound desperate when the people opposed to the president keep going back to that. For the rest of it, well, honestly it's out of my field of view and I can't remember a bit. Guessing you probably pinged on health care, slow recovery with high unemployment and growth of debt. There's nothing there people don't know. If they are leaning toward Obama now, it's because they've already absorbed all that.
OMH RedDevPS! So glad we're on the same team! You're one weird dude F6Zman!!!
HAHAHAHA!!!
@Layton-3733410
Sorry for telling the truth. The best way to piss off a Liberal is to tell him/her the Truth.
The Government has me tracking you via a super secret agency founded by Hoover that is an offshoot of the IMF.
RedDev - thanks for proving what we have all suspected - F6Zman is a certifiable nut case! Not like we didn't know it!
F6Zman - you don't have any idea what truth is - just the stupidity you've been spoonfed by the radical right. You are truly a pathetic person who lacks a brain!
Obama/Biden 2012
@RedDevPS I quit posting on Godlike, http://beforeitsnews.com/ is a lot better.
@SeekingSanity Anyone who supports Obama is a pathetic Moron. Just look at what he has been doing to our country.
RedDev,
Your post about the blogging life of F6Zman is hilarious.LOL
You Red of course are the best troll finder there is on this site.
Love it when you uncover another sock puppet.
I hear Jody and NDD hare buying birthday drinks for everyone at the DDI.
See you over there.
RedDevPS - he deleted his account!!! But F6Zman, I will never be able to read your posts without remembering that! Do sites like that come with tinfoil hats????
Totally made my afternoon!
OMG - Too funny - guess he never watched Mission: Impossible.
What ever it takes to get rid of spamming trolls.
F6Zman - you are the pathetic moron for not accepting the truth - the Republicans have stopped everything good President Obama has worked to do - to hell with the country.
You really should try to gain some knowledge. You just look stupider every time you post!
Obama/Biden 2012
A little truth straight from Mitt's mouth:
"I'm not familiar precisely with what I said, but I'll stand by what I said, whatever it was." —Mitt Romney, asked in a press conference about remarks he made to Fox News host Sean Hannity (Jacksonville, Florida, May 17, 2012)
F6Zman,
Fortunately we live in a free country so please feel free to vote for any crack pot, pie in the sky, impractical nut job you want. It is your right.
[@RedDevPS How did you find that?]
F6Zman, as an "eeeeevil librul lefty", RedDev as well as others are indoctrinated into the S.O.O. It is the Secret Orwellian Organization, a tippy-top secret spinoff of the Bilderbergs. They are charged with implanting cattle like you with RFID chips, and by tracking your every move, thought, action, and tinkle it is logged into a huge database manned by Dick Cheney and Ron Paul...that database is called H.A.L. 9000...
...be afraid...be VERY afraid...and for God's sake, don't scratch the back of your neck anymore! It really eff's up the datalogging.
I've been saying for the entirety of the campaign that Republicans think vast swaths of the American people are worthless "takers" and only a tiny number are the "makers" upon whom we all rely for our well being. It's the fundamental flaw in Conservative thinking from which all their other flaws originate.
I'd like to thank Mitt Romney for accidentally allowing what he really thinks to become public knowledge.
Actually we are all victims of Obama's policies!!
It's time to turn the page on this failed presidency...
The middle class and your children/grandchildren can't afford 4 more...
16 TRILLION and counting... tick tick tick
JOE BIDEN, you ought to be ashamed of yourself - propagating a misconception of what Romney said. You are a part of the political problem in this country.....capitalizing on and promoting a continuing lie just for the sake of keeping the peoples anger up and for political division and opportunity! How dare you - and many of us, even though we knew you were a dumbazz with a big mouth and a bigger foot - which interchange regularly - we didn't think of you as a knuckle-dragging political party moron who capitalizes on the public ignorance and belief that you speak the honest truth - "they're gonna put ya'all back in chains"......yelling fire, fire in a crowded theater is right up your alley, isn't it!
You are a disgusting piece of political opportunism!
What misconception could there be about this?
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/full-transcript-mitt-romney-secret-video#47percent
Romney's own words are more damning than anything ANYONE else could say.
Leave it to a republican to think that taking someone's direct quote verbatim is a misconception. I'm interested to hear what the real meaning of Romney's words were, since the rest of us are misunderstanding a direct quote.
Really? I wonder seriously if you have read or listened to the whole speech that Romney gave....because if you did you wouldn't be reacting as you are - or you're just simply so hyped up on party koolaid that you're too far gone to let reason temper your anger.
And Biden gets out there and rabble rouses the party minions by feeding them inaccurate interpretations of Romney's speech, fires them up, then steps back and watches them react - and btw, both sides of the isle are just as guilty of this type of yellow politics - it's all very childish and tiring to listen to and to watch and also very predictable. I'd like to see both sides stop this crap and get down to being truthful and focusing on the issues that are important to America.
I just gave you a 10 line direct quote and link to the rest. Is there something that forgives
Hmmmmmm?
Romney is contemptuous of middle America, regardless of our political persuasion.
"Don't try to stop the foreclosure process. Let it run its course and hit bottom." —Mitt Romney, defending banks and kicking people out of their homes
Paul, I totally agree. I am a firm Obama supporter but I find it tragic that this bumbling idiot is the only alternative the American people have. What were Republican primary voters thinking?
There is another alternative, the Libertarian party, Gary Johnson, he is the only Honest person in this race. That is why the Media does not pay attention to him.
Ha, ha, you are a libertarian, aren't you. True, the media doesn't pay attention to him, but it's no conspiracy against truth tellers. The media reacts to momentum. Whether it's a GOP nominating race or a third party candidacy, if you want media attention, show some strength of support. They aren't going to promote a candidate on ideas and positions alone. Maybe they should, but that's not the real world. Look at Ron Paul. His media attention throughout his career as a presidential candidate has been directly proportional to his support. Four years ago, wasn't much of either. This time, he did better with both.
F6Zman,
Your poor little victimized Gary Johnson is such a crackpot with idiotic, unworkable ideas it is no wonder he is ignored. We can't pay attention to every crackpot that comes along.
I said the same thing when the democrats nominated OdumbO in 2008
Romney and repubs had a pretty bad week. You can count on Vice President Joe Biden to put his wisdom in perspective on the damage repubs are doing and want to do in the future. Romney and Ryan tried hiding their agenda for months and now that they are opening their mouths in front of all Americans it is plain to see their plan to sell America to the GREEDY rich.
Ryan went before AARP today and was soundly booed every time he spoke.
Romney released part of his taxes and hid what he knows is damaging to him causing even BIGGER RED FLAGS!
Libya routed out terrorists today destroying hopes of repubs who cheer against America.
Yes this is an all around embarrassing week for rt wingers!
So why not come down to the Chatterbox cafe tonight and have a big piece of BeBop a Rebop rhubarb pie?
Wouldn't this be a great time for a piece of rhubarb pie? Yes, nothing gets the taste of shame and humiliation out of your mouth quite like Be Bop a ReBop Rhubarb pie!
Your statement is very predictable ....and speaks to what has been said before - no matter what Romney produces to your demands you will always find more "dirty" questions and assumptions that are all unprovable - but you will make them any way. So I'll ask, once again as I have asked so many times in the past....where's your proof that he has hid damaging information? Saying something, however unsupported or untrue, long enough and it will become fact to those weak minds that do not question your assumptions.....again, so sad!
It's all in your comprehension, perception and intelligence as to how you interpret Romney's speech - it's very obvious where you all stand on this and I'm not here to change your minds - that would be an impossible task.
I will say one thing regarding Biden: you can put a suit on a monkey, but it's still a monkey!
Yes, I comprehend that Romney said almost half of Americans are freeloading victims who can't be convinced to take responsibility for their own lives.
Do you?
It isn't a matter of perception and it CERTAINLY isn't a matter of intelligence. If there's some other way to take those statements you don't seem to be able to convey that.
Why waste time explaining to someone who wouldn't understand it if it smacked in the face or would deny even the truth if it was self evident. You are so deep in your addiction to obama and his empty, meaningless - but eloquent - speeches that nothing but his words would be seen as truth by someone like you and the other minions. Blind obedience is your calling. If you read my posts you might (even given your handicapped comprehensions) would note that I said both sides are equally guilty of promoting out of context and misconceived statements. At least I call a skunk (I would have said spade but knowing people I know you'd have labeled me a racist) a skunk when I see it - MY eyes are WIDE open - not sure I can say the same thing about yours!
Biden has had the good sense to refrain from saying idiotic things unlike Romney who puts his foot in his mouth on an almost daily basis. Don't complain about Biden; tell your candidate to shut up!
Sailcat-2064101
he's still a monkey in a suit, and he's said many documented idiotic things, in fact he has that reputation in congress- and you're his dingle-berry!
You sound bitter, Izzy! Are you angry because your Republican monkey is stupider than Biden? And dingleberry?? Are you in grade school still?? I mean, damn.
Give it up, Izzy. You can't muster the intellectual horsepower to argue the point and while you are straining to come up with something clever to say, your candidate and his failed campaign are disappearing down the drain. Read 'em and weep.
You know Conservatives have lost the argument when they pull out "both sides do it."
The President never said it's not his job to worry about almost half the nation. He never said large swaths of Americans are "dependent" with no intention or ability to be otherwise.
Both sides didn't do that. ONE side did that...and average Americans won't forget it.
President Obama is heads above Romney in every positive way! Romney can't do a thing without his puppeteers!
The Deputy PM of Australia had it right: 'Cranks and crazies' in GOP threaten US economy' Could not have said it any better!
Obama/Biden 2012
Says the guy who supports a candidate who can't speak without his teleprompter!
You must mean Romney, he uses a teleprompter regularly. It's a pretty good one too...it counts votes that haven't yet been taken! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kze8JwWtiI
Went to your link this is what it told me:
Published on Sep 8, 2012 by Pam474
"WAKE UP! The system is rigged! You have no choices! Elites controls Democrats AND Republicans! Mitt Romney is just as bad as Barack Obama! SPREAD THIS VIDEO AGGRESSIVELY!"
**This is what I've all ready alluded to, my apologies I thought I was posting in response to another adult, I was wrong - please don't respond to my postings anymore, my patience wears thin with people like you.
And the poster of that video is free to his/her own opinion on that. Show me where the Democratic convention put up the results of a procedural vote before the vote was even taken.
Let's talk about the subject of that vote, shall we? The RNC pushed through a rules change over the obvious and audible objections of floor delegates, pretending those objections were not in evidence. The rules change allows the RNC (effectively the presumptive nominee in that position) to REPLACE delegates at will...delegates that were selected by their state and local parties. It was widely referred to as a "power grab" and Conservatives ranging from Michelle Malkin to Mike Huckabee to Mark Levin were extremely upset. It's a blatant move to make the GOP more autocratic, less democratic.
Both sides didn't do that. Only one side did that.
Way to go Biden. The GOPTP declared Class Warfare, and if that is the road Romney wants to take, let's turn on the fan and fling it back in his face.
If the GOPTP have declared class warfare, they are going into the battle unarmed. Based on their comments during this campaign, Romney and Ryan have no class.
The American people are finally warming up to the fact that Conservatives have been waging class warfare against the middle and lower classes for decades.
Oh, but it's ok when your man obama does it, right?
Only in the Conservative world would having the wealthy elites pay at least the same effective tax rate as the middle class be considered "class warfare." In any case the Forbes 400 now holds 1/8 of all the wealth in the country. It's about time someone fought for the average American.
I see. So you're one of THOSE people! The poor, the down-trodden who want to blame others, who are successful, for their own lack of accomplishment - it's the system controlled by the rich elite-- boo whoo! Get a life - history is full of that scenario - the Right didn't invent it, fool! As a matter of fact there are more "RICH" democrats in congress than republicans - how do you account for that??
Romney has paid his "fair share" as prescribed by US IRS Tax Laws. So he puts money in overseas accounts so do most ultra-rich - if you were one you'd do the same thing and don't deny it! The fact is you are just jealous AND he's NOT YOU MAN, right, now be honest!
I asked that you not respond to me before, but I read your foolish remarks and I felt it necessary to respond!
OK, so average Americans have no right to demand the wealthy pay at least the same tax rates as "lesser mortals." That's the whole problem with today's Conservatism...drunk on Ayn Rand, totally incapable of rational thought.
The real issue here isn't the Romney made a careless remark that sounded bad from a distance. The real issue is that Romney and lots of other Conservatives (including you) actually BELIEVE the fiction of Rand and her world of "makers" and "takers."
And if you don't want me to respond, don't post on a message board. It's really your choice on that point, as it's my choice whether or not to respond.
"Romulian Romney" is NOT Presidential at all, and has made it clear that he will NOT represent 100% of all Americans. Anyone who believes that the GOP/RNC "Romulian" will represent all Americans is "Severely Cognitively Disabled." That is fact! The "Speculator and Chief" has NO intentions of creating a fair Tax Code for all Americans. Citizens that believe this lie has obvious "Behavioral" issues. The "Romulian" has made several facts very clear. Those who are collecting any Government Support are not worth representing. The GOP/RNC "Speculator" and Chief" has NO Foreign Policy Plan, and is willing to risk doing NOTHING. That is the same attitude that the GOP/RNC "Hoodlum's On The Hill" have in Congress. The GOP/RNC "Romulian" has NO ability to relate to most Americans? How does America think the GOP/RNC "Speculator and Chief" will relate to World Leaders? His blundering in London is telling America that he will fail badly!
Unfortunately, next time Mitt will hand out drawings or pictures to the libs or drive by media lap dogs to explain what he is talking about, or making reference to so there won't be no misunderstanding.
Notice how the rt wingers always cheer if something bad happens to the United states and whine when something good happens to the united States?
So programmed that way since Rove and Norquist took over the republican party along with the extreme rt wingers Tea Baggers.
The night President Obama took office 14-15 republican politicians and Frank Lutz of Fox news met to pledge to vote against any bill that would make president Obama look good in the next election in 2012. pledged to vote against the country for 4 years to make president Obama a one term president. And obstruct they did in record amounts! After obstructing the recovery of America for almost 4 years, the repubs whine that the recovery which they tried to stop is not good enough! John Boehner even told his fellow repubs not to have anything to do with Lutz from Fox because he was toxic, so they did not invite him to the pledge meeting.
Stand up and shout for the recovery of America, stand against the rt wingers who pledge to take the nation down.
Vote President Obama/Biden and Team Democratic Party 2012.
I don't think there is anyone who can honestly say they don't like Vice President Biden. They may not like his policies, but he really is a very likable person.
How is it that the Democratic Party has truly nice people and the GOP ends up with people like Dick Cheney, Carl Rove and Paul Ryan ?
One buys the vote while the other has to work for it.
He's about as likeable as a downs syndrome baby.
That line officially identifies you as a scumbag, Tim. Not that anyone will be surprised by that revelation.
Tim W.-1074098:
There, but for the grace of God, goes your child. . . or YOU!
You could take a lesson from the caring, loving and gentle nature of these Children of God.
BTW:Just what is the cause of YOUR diminished mental capacity?
There is no God. Next.
See above.
Being raised by Democrats.
It was bad enough when GW was caught on tape giving that speech to the super rich donors and saying things like "you are my base" but to allow a guy like Romney to become president after saying this much worse of a wide open condemnation of half the country's human beings would be an international screw up worse than not seeing through Nixon sooner.
Obama has screwed it up and Republicans, recognizing that fact, nominate a predatory freak who has taken capitalism to its ugliest extremes and thinks 47% (well, really 99%) of Americans don't count. Wtf.
There are people out there from all parties who could fix the problems but our broken political process allows weirdos like Willard to appear out of the ether pretending they're real and grab nominations.
Willard's America would be all about the 1% who are doing just fine, thanks, while 20 or 30 million Americans are jobless.
O'bama, least of the evils.
I though OdumbO created the 20 to 30 unemployed on his watch. So all of a sudden Mitt is responsible for the unemployment picture?
Romney campaign slogan: "You can fool some of the people some of the time.....and these are the people I want to speak to!"
When Ol Cisco Kid Romney went before the Latinos the other day, everyone noticed he had his face spray tanned to look darker. If he was any darker repubs and he would not be able to vote for him!
Marco:
You are the dumbo! No unemployed created by Obama after February of 2010. And almost all of the unemployed created between January of 2008 and October of 2009. So who is to blame for that, dumbo? W. left Obama a car falling off a cliff and said, "Catch it!" So the millions and millions of unemployed were created before Obama had time to take a leak. But within less than a year of the stimulus passage we were creating jobs.
'
Romney really looks bad at this juncture. He would need a platoon of henchmen to keep his feet out of his mouth. He sounds more and more like someone with no intuition at all. And he is such a flip-flopping weather vane, it would be hard for anyone in a foreign capital to know what he would actually do in a given situation. It is NOW CONFIRMED that average people (those that don't own their own businesses) just aren't very important to him. It's not like he hates the lesser thans, he just doesn't worry about (or even think about) the bottom 47% (or even the bottom 97%). He clearly thinks that everybody that works for the government is worthless. And all he has to offer women is that he is nice to his wife (as far as we know). All he has to offer Hispanics is free enterprise and bootstraps for those with green cards and citizenship and a good swift kick in the ass for the rest (although he would prefer that they kick themselves out of the country). And for the college kids: "Get a loan from your parents." And lots of cheerleading about how great the country is and how he understands what it is to be an American with American values. Cue the balloons. Whoopee!! Any person in the middle who votes for this crap is clueless.
I am one of the 47% and I ain't voting for that muslim/communist in the white house!
Joe bite me pilling on 47% comment give me a very comforting feeling. I am one of the 47% going to vote repub. for first time. Hope and change has turn out to no hope and need change in the WH
We know who we need to vote out. Bonehead, turtle face mc connell and cantor. These were 3 of a dozen rethugs that swore their alleigence to a lobbyist ( here all this time I thought they were supposed to be serving us) And a cabal of repthug swore alliegence and signed an oath to obstruct and fillibuster everything our President tried to get passed. President Obama bent over backwards to work with these thugs who never intended to work with him. For they had sworn to OBSTRUCT everything . EXCEPT the bills that had anything to do with women's heath issues , and those they would rewrite to ban every possible health procedure for women. They had TIME for the war on women's health. Lyin ryan had all the time with his buddy akin to write rape bills, and write redefining rape and write and determine their "legitimite rape" definitions. No time to do the country 's work, but plenty of time to play word games with women's body parts. Well these women paid attention to your War on Women and we will be voting you thugs out of office come this Nov. We know who you are ! And to add insult to injury, just Wed night as you are rushing to your mercedes and your limos to head out of town, you found time to VOTE NO on the Vet's Job Bill for returning warriors of our longest wars! This bill , which was bi partisan ( whatever that means to you in congress ) which would have provided training into jobs for all returning armed service members so that would help re-integrate these men and women back into our communities into good paying jobs. These people have been serving this country in a war zone for 12 years. The least we owe them is a job training problam to help them back into society. BUT NO The RETHUGS had to VOTE NO and once again OBSTRUCT anything that could be viewed as from President Obama. WEll WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE REPUBTHUGS and you are FIRED . I urge all service members and retired service members to vote these traitors out ! And I urge all women to help protect your daughters, moms, aunts, sisters and ourselves. VOTE THESE MEN out of our bodies !! Send a strong message , you are toast come Nov's ballot box. Straight Democratic ticket across the USA. We are taking back our government and states from the crazies. OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 Vote for our Democratic Senators and Congressmen. Vote Democratic in the State houses. You repubthug s are NOT going to steal an election with your puppet masters money of Adelson, Kock bros and Rove .
Isnt it amazing that the patriotic party that is so proud of american exceptionalism is the party that when they lose an election decide to meet on the FIRST day of the new presidents term to devise a strategy to make him a failure. Imagine what this election would look like if unemployment was at 5 or 6%.
Did you think 180+ filibusters were a coincidence? Hell, on the day Congress adjounted the RepubliCON party FILIBUSTERS assistance to help veterens finding employment. Just another demonstration of what a chicken s hit party the Republicons have become
The party of no, political safe haven for racists and religious fanatics,
LTC Rattus, USA, ret.
The 47% are Obamabots, so who cares?
We are going to win.
Tim, you are buying into the conservative fable. You kow, the story that fails the "who", "what", and "where" evaluation of the 47%.
The "who" part - Involves the make-up of the 47%. It includes elderly on fixed income (who paid taxes their entire lives), disabled vets, and working poor. The 47% is not solely made up of couch-sitting-bonbon-eating-gimme-gimme-gimme people. Oh, and it also consists of at least 4,000 millionaires that paid excatly zero dollars in federal income tax last year.
The "what" and "where" is you refusing to acknowledge the VERY high percentage of the 47% that live in predominantly conservative states. Go ahead and check out the states that recieve the most federal assistance.
And I'll even throw in a "How" (as in how they vote) - You fail to connect the previous factors with voting results in the conservative states from last election.
Your candidate is using a hugely incorrect stero-type to create a false sense of outrage against a group of people. He is portraying them as leeches on society that need to be controlled. Heck, that sounds to me like 'class warfare.'
Why waste your breath? If Romney wins, you'll hate it. If Obama wins, you'll likely die. Kind of a lose lose for Democrats.
LOL! So in effect you are say that there is no sense providing facts because you've already made up your mind based on falsehoods and misrepresentations.
Oh, and regardless of who wins, people will die. That's a natural part of life.
Wake Up America
The 1% is every man, woman and child in America.
The 99% is the rest of the World.
Obama's only HOPE is to CHANGE America into a third world country like Kenya where he was born.
If Obama is re-elected Obama will move FORWARD to destroy America.
Mr. Parks, your position lost all potential validity when you said "like Kenya where he was born."
That said, the industrialized nations make up far more than 1% of the world so your argument fails. And since the US population makes up a little over 4% of the world's population, your postion fails there too.
I want to express my anger at whoever suspended the informative voice of the redhead.
I think we should vote to remove this person/persons who are responsible.
I thought this thread was about class warfare and victims.
But if Democrats didn't create victimhood, who would vote for you?! Think about who the Democrats "fight" for and make into victims. Just about everyone!
Joe Biden is lying through his teeth! C'mon, you Dems turned victimhood into one big national membership club!
Women are victims (especially potentially wealthy female law students!). Blacks are victims. Seniors are victims. Labor union members are victims. Latinos are victims. Gays are victims. The poor are victims. The middle class are victims. The Bernie Madoff rich investors are victims (well, but you don't feel sorry for them).
Bill Clinton was a victim a of a vast, right wing conspiracy. Foreclosed home owners are victims. Muslims are victims (well, most of them). Veterans are victims. The unemployed are victims.
College students are victims. Single moms are victims. Single moms with multiple kids by different fathers are victims. Drug addicts are victims. Criminals are victims. Convicted murderers are victims. Teachers are victims. Native Americans are victims (this must mean Elizabeth Warren is a victim).
Illegal aliens (OOPS, undocumented workers!) are victims. Employees with 401Ks are victims. High school dropouts are victims. Anyone on food stamps, section 8 housing and Medicaid are victims. Bullied teens are victims. Medical malpractice victims...are victims.
Gitmo detainees are victims according to the Democrat lawyers that defended them pro bono and now work at the DOJ!! Children of divorced parents are victims. Anyone who dies because of a defective product is a victim. The OctoMom children are victims. Grownup childhood actors and actresses are victims.
The country is a Wall Street victim (including all the wealthy liberal Democrats who work there). Obama is a victim of Republican obstructionism (I guess that's how he passed the Stimulus and the ACA so easily). The polar bears are victims (although not an official voting block). The planet is a victim of carbon dioxide! DON"T BREATH!!!
See, you guys are victimhood champions! C'mon Joe, Don't deny it!
Let's see, what I'm reading here is that you can't debate factually, so you fall back on sophistry.
Your argument fails first at the assumption that Democrats created "vicitmhood" and secondly because it creates a generalized notion that you then apply to large categories of people that is not substantiated by facts.
Seniors that plan to vote Republican don't like the definitive term "entitlements". When they were younger, in the 1950s and '60s, they acted the same. In July they would go shopping at Montgomery Ward, where they would put a new winter coat on layaway. They made biweekly layaway payments for three months. Upon their final payment, the saleslady would present them with their new coat. Then they would say, "Oh my, no, I couldn't possibly accept that beautiful coat you are offering to me. I don't feel entitled to it". Many freezing winter days kept them in their houses and prevented them from shopping for much needed groceries.
Social Security is an entitlement program that workers and employers pay into for 45 or 50 years. But, the government has borrowed trillions of dollars from the fund, which appear as part of the national debt. Then Congress has the gall to claim that the Social security trust Fund is depleting and benefits need to be cut.
Things SENATOR Barry Mohamabama SAID THAT AREN'T EXACTLY CORRECT. Their all Lying just to earn your yote.
1.) Selma March Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY , your
parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your
birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google 'Obama Selma ' for his full March 4,
2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.) ! !
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY , he
was a privileged, well-educated youth, who went to work with the Kenyan
Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY ,
he was part of one ofthe most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever
had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT
EXACTLY ;your cousin Raila Odinga created mass violence in attempting to
overturn a legitimate election in 2007 in Kenya. It was the first widespread
violence there in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga
wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother,
Abongo Obama, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire
campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for
verification of that....and for more. Obama's cousin Odinga ran for president
in Kenya and tried to get Sharia Muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his
followers burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children
alive in a Christian church where they took shelter... Obama SUPPORTED his
cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and
see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT
EXACTLY , she does her daily Salat prayers at 5 AM according to her own
interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one
of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY , your
name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that
language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama. Barack Hussein Obama is not
half black. Obama is the first Arab-American President, not the first black
President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and
43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. Although Barack
Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was
mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African and 87.5%
Arab (his father's birth certificate states he's Arab, not African.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY , you
practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept
that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change so you could run for
office. 4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in Islam''
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY
, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic
Studies for making faces (check your own book). February 28, 2008. Kristoff
from the " New York Times " a year ago: " Mr. Obama recalled the
opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate
accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama
voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the
prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when
she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to
whitewash troubling facts.' "
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY , not
one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign
Experience - NOT EXACTLY , you were there from the ages of 6 to
10, and couldn't speak the language. What did you learn except how to study
the Koran and watch cartoons?
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY ,
except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise); you have
never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our
closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT
EXACTLY , you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no
mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates
said you were just fine
13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT
EXACTLY , Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It
doesn't, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life -
NOT EXACTLY , Life has yet to find the article you mention in your
book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY ,
here you are, despite saying, live on TV, which you would not have enough
experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT
EXACTLY , they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Miss-voted - NOT EXACTLY , only when
caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY ; you
were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY ,
you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT
EXACTLY , you didn't write it, introduce it, change it or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY ,
it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your
bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all
regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David
Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY ,
as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be
released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT
EXACTLY , you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld
Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY
, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which
lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT
EXACTLY , even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on
your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT
EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation
by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA -
NOT EXACTLY , the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of
the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you
missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali
Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY ; you
said let the delegates decide.
31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY , you
prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote,
and only operate during small windows of time.
32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT
EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.
33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY,
you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY , you
take loads of it.
35.) I don't Have Lobbyists - NOT EXACTLY , you have over
47 lobbyists, and counting.
36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT
EXACTLY , your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one
afternoon.
37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY ,
you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every
single time.
38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT
EXACTLY , your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't
have to buy it.
39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp - NOT
EXACTLY , your mother had no brothers and the Russian army did the
liberating.
So, who EXACTLY is this Obama guy and what is he trying to sell
us?!
Please let your loved ones and friends know about this fraud.
God Bless America
In GOD we STILL TRUST
your own campaign
worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq
- NOT EXACTLY ,
you weren't in office
to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.
38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care
- NOT EXACTLY ,
your plan leaves us
all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.
39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp - NOT EXACTLY ,
your mother had no
brothers and the Russian army did the liberating.
So,
who EXACTLY is this Obama guy and what is he trying to sell us?!
Please
let your loved ones and friends know about this fraud.
God
Bless America
In GOD we STILL TRUST
GHU, first, please provide the source for your cut and paste, otherwise it's plagerism.
Now with respect to the post, it's a misture of lies and misrepresentations with a few truths thrown in. Feel free to check them out yourself at http ://www .snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp .
I'd also suggest that if you indeed believe in God, that you also understand the concept of "bearing false witness" which is what your post does and you do if you kowingly and deliberately choose to repeat lies.
Joe Biden vs. Paul Ryan - you have to think about 1 person will sit in for the President when needed. Mr. Ryan - you have my vote.
ly'n ryan .... RUN RYAN RUN ..... run as fast as u can ... oh thats right you are the fastest man in any marathon .... your mother must have been sooo very ashamed of you and your lies when the seniors boo'd you ... and most (that could without assistance) walked out on your speech .... DONE AND GONE .... lying b*stard ..... run ryan run !!!!
I've already thought of that...and have no intention of voting for a guy who thinks it's a great idea to destroy Social Security, then lies about it. Then again most of what Paul Ryan says are lies, so that would be no big shock.
John B,
Destroy Social Security? Lie about it? How about Medicare and Medicaid?
In case you haven't been listening or reading, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) has been telling us for several years now that the three big mandatory spending programs (SS, Medicare and Medicaid) will self destruct on their own.
Tell me what plan Obama and/or Democrats have put forth to save them other that demagoguery about taxing the rich.
The GAO has said, in order for them to continue in their CURRENT form, we will have to have double digit GNP growth (we've never had that even in the best of times). And we would have to increase tax revenue by 50% for all those programs. This means EVERYONE'S taxes will have to go up including the middle class and the poor.
This model is akin to the Scandinavian countries where the people pay damn near 70-75% of what they make to the government. Is this what you'd like?
But I say again, Democrats have no plan. You may not like Ryan's plan but it's at least a plan.
Just lifting the cap on SS contributions would fill HALF the projected shortfall over the next 75 years, without even touching the middle class. These problems are solvable. Leaving Seniors with an additional $6400 in medical expenses to cover every month because Romney/Ryan's vouchers won't actually cover the expense of an insurance policy is a plan all right...a plan to wage war against Seniors, one of their most reliable constituencies.
John,
Apparently, you know very little about the Federal budget. You say if we lifted the cap on contributions, that would fill half the shortfall. Half the shortfall of what? SS?
OK. A big "IF". If you assume you'd get that revenue in this horrible Obama economy with 23 million out of work, you still haven't solved Medicare and Medicaid. You do realize, don't you, that we use just about all the revenue from all tax sources (FITW, SS, Medicare, corporate, excise taxes, estate taxes) to cover the three mandatory funded entitlement programs (SS, Medicare and Medicaid) and interest on the debt. So essentially, we must borrow the money to run the rest of government.
Even if you totally eliminated DOD and rescinded the Bush tax cuts you'd still have approximately a $500 billion annual deficit. However, don't economists tell us that these tax increases will send us over the cliff?
BTW, Obama keeps running false ads. That $6400 in additional medical expenses you quote that Romney/Ryan won't cover came from the CBO and they have since retracted that figure. The lame stream biased media and Obama's ads keep saying it though.
So why do Republicans universally insist the problem can be solved by eliminating "wasteful spending" while reducing revenue even further?
Count me among those who believe in a balanced approach to the deficit. Yes, some spending needs to be cut, but some revenue needs to be generated as well. Paul Ryan apparently isn't familiar with your numbers, having already rejected the concept of 1 dollar of additional revenue for every 10 dollars in spending cuts.
With no (or at least very little) disrespect to Biden, he's the LAST person who should be 'piling on' anyone's comments....
Biden is a nitwit.
Biden isn't the one making almost daily gaffes as Romney has, and saying such stupid things that even Ryan is saying he's "inarticulate." MItt's mouth is the reason his campaign has failed.
"I think the best answer is as little as possible." —Mitt Romney, when asked what he wears to bed at night, interview with ABC's ''LIVE! with Kelly and Michael,'' Sept. 14, 2012
What an idiot.
Hmmm Illinois is broke, the U.S. is broke,
and Barack Obama and his Democrats run both
of them.
I think I'm beginning to detect a pattern.
Let me get this right. Democrats Will Not
vote for Mitt Romney because he knows how
to use an IRS form 1040, but Democrats Will
vote for Barack Obama because he does Not
know how to use an IRS form 1040.
Democrats have to be the only people in
the world who take pride in the ignorance
of their presidents.
Barack Obama and his Democrat Congress and
his Democrat Senate gave a trillion tax
dollars to Wallstreet CEOs who kept billions
in bonuses for themselves, and gave away
billions in bonuses to their executives,
who ran their companies into bankruptcy.
After four terrible years, ain't it damn
well time we had a president who knows how
to handle money?
Jerry,
You forgot California! They're broke too. And run by the public sector unions.
Actually California is run by a tyranny of the minority, radical Conservatives who use the supermajority requirement of Prop 13 to hamstring the budget process. They're a lot like the US Senate that way.
So much for the myth that Republicans are the "party of fiscal responsibility."
Amen to that...
Run by the MINORITY?
What are you guys smoking?
First of all, I thought a MAJORITY of CA voters voted in prop 13 years ago in order to protect older homeowners from hikes in property taxes they couldn't afford.
Prove to me CA isn't run by a liberal Democrat majority in the state house and senate. And that the unions don't have the state by the cajones when it comes to wages, benefits and pensions.
In spite of one of the highest state income tax rates and corporate rates in the country, isn't CA going bankrupt?
In fact, if it was actually run by "radical" conservatives who want balanced budgets, wouldn't that be so?
Here 'ya go, champ;
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-10/california-senate-republicans-block-brown-s-10-billion-gap-closing-plan.html
I apologize that the facts as usual have a Liberal agenda.