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For the first time since four American diplomats were killed during violent protests at the U.S. consulate in Libya, the White House spokesman acknowledged that the attacks were an act of terrorism.
During a gaggle with reporters on Air Force One, Press Secretary Jay Carney called the attacks “terrorism” in the sense that they fit the definition of such an act.
“It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack. Our embassy was attacked violently and the result was four deaths of American officials – that's self-evident," Carney said to reporters traveling en route to Florida, where the president participated in a forum hosted by the Spanish-language network Univision.
The White House has confirmed that the terror attack that killed four Americans at the Libya consulate was orchestrated by al-Qaida sympathizers, but questions remain about when it was planned. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.
The mention of “terrorism” – first made Wednesday by National Counterterrorism Center Director Matthew Olsen (an Obama administration official) during Capitol Hill testimony -- was a marked shift in tone for Carney, who, until Thursday, had used the less-charged word, “extremists” to refer to the perpetrators.
Related: White House says Libya consulate siege that killed four was terrorist attack
“There has certainly been precedent in the past where bad actors – extremists who are heavily armed in different countries, in different regions of the world, have taken advantage of and exploited situations that have developed in order to either attack Westerners or Western assets or American or American assets,” Carney said at Wednesday’s press briefing, which took place about 45 minutes after Olsen called the attack terrorism.
But President Obama did not call the attack “terrorism” during the Univision forum, sticking to “extremism.”
“The natural protests that arose because of the outrage over the video were used as an excuse by extremists to see if they can also directly harm U.S. interests,” Obama said, declining to comment on whether or not the attacks had been premeditated.
He suggested, however, that if the attack had been planned, it would have been orchestrated by a smaller organization than al-Qaida, as Olsen suggested Wednesday. Olsen said the perpetrators were likely an offshoot of al-Qaida, similar to its North African branch, al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb.
“In Yemen, in Libya, in other of these places, increasingly in places like Syria, what you see is these elements that don't have the same capacity that a bin Laden or core al-Qaida had but can still cause a lot of damage,” Obama said.
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That's because this President waits until he gets the facts before jumping off of the cliff. Unlike that other political party who wants to go to war with everyone.
Tony,
No drama Obama is the one I want in assessing the facts that he has before him as our President.
Except he didn't assess the facts first. He went with "the spontaneous outburst during a protest because of a movie. "
As it's turning out, and as information continues to flow, it was not spontaneous, it was pre-planned, it wasn't just regular people, it was al-Queda; the ambassador feared for the embassy's safety for weeks prior, and we will likely find out it wasn't because of a film.
This is a tough spot for the President to be in. He's going to have to walk back his original story. He's going to have to acknowledge that even having eliminated Bin Laden, the mid east still hates us.
Candice - Poor little Candice, looking for that smoking gun that will be the "game changer" the GOP is desperate for. Not there. Just like fast and furious and all of the other garbage the right comes up empty with.
yep and it was foolish to think Bin Laden was the Middle East. Never underestimate your enemy and yes most of the middle east is our enemy. Al Qaida, taliban, hamas, PLO and every other savage group out there is. I saw the photos of Stevens being drug through the streets dead. I was appalled.
extremism. quit putting cute names on what they are. Terrorists!! HOMICIDE BOMBERS!
glad to see you love your transparency and hope and change. Tony, you're a cultist end of story. Sad to see such blind devotion. Enjoy being an Obama Thrall
Candace,
I agree with you that information is still flowing about Libya and the death of Ambassador Stevens.
but to say the "whole Middle East hates us" is exactly what the extremists on both sides want you to believe.
Again, if that is the basis of the GOP foreign policy it is a dead end.
I am glad the president is not Romney today or on November 7.
Walking back a story is what you do when you have intentionally misrepresented the the the truth (think Iraqi WMDs). As the investigation unfolds and more information becomes available, Obama will relay that information to public. The attack on the American and European Embassies and the uprisings in North African and other Muslim countries doesn't translate to the mid-east hates us. It translates to radical elements of the Muslim religion hate the U.S. and its allies. One size does not fit all, and to assume it does is irresponsible and disingenuous to all the citizens of those countries that do support the U.S. and its allies.
Does the entire world judge the U.S. based upon the extreme ugliness of the radical Christian neo-cons and extremist right wing Tea Party? NO, they do not.
nice try, erroneously blaming it on a movie without full details? I'd say that is intentionally misrepresenting the truth. I can't believe you guys, it seriously is Obama does no wrong with you. PATHETIC
not even the same thing. All emotion and zero facts. Congrats RedDev, the most ignorant statement of day.
Actually Caesar, Libyan citizens found Stevens in his 'safe room' still barely alive, and tried to get him to a hospital, carrying him to a car. Apparently the film was misconstrued by folks relishing the worst so they could make things look even worse. If anyone was dragged through the streets by an angry mob it was anyone but Stevens!
Best to not watch Faux Neuz too much, scientific studies have shown that Fox viewers have less of an idea of what really goes on than folks who do not watch any news at all.
I dont but its best to just B. Honest. Stop watching Obama cheerleading network
Now we have liberals saying that lybians were breaking in to save Stevens. TOO FUNNY YET SICK
Follow your Pied Piper.
Actually, I do not watch TV but a few rare times there is actually something interesting on.
On Stevens, first one of the MANY articles when googled about it is: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/chris-stevens-death-case-new-video-video-show-libyans-trying-to-rescue-ambassador-in-benghazi
So, no, it is not just me or Some Liberals...it is actually in the news services and reported MANY times. The story is Associated Press, which is actually very neutral politically.
Nice try!
nice try, erroneously blaming it on a movie without full details? I'd say that is intentionally misrepresenting the truth. I can't believe you guys, it seriously is Obama does no wrong with you. PATHETIC
Caesar -
Before you mention details, it was NitMitt that neglected to look at the details before accusing O of apologizing to the terrorists. Its that kind of nonsense that shows that Mitten's isn't ready for the big times....I do agree with you that most of the people in the ME, if not just dislike us, do hate us.....They are an envious lot....
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O&Joe 2012
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you're right, i emotionally attributed the Al Qaida with the libyans. I do apologize there. Nonetheless his death is downright disgusting but the rest of what i have said stands.
sure and it looks like O has a bigger problem now. Guess he has to 'walk it back' . Problem is, he's president. Oh well Mitt did it first right. My assessment stands that you guys give a free pass to Obama regardless
The phone rang at 3 a m and Obama or Hillary had any idea what to do
BARACK OBAMA ...FAILED LEADERSHIP !!!
tonybeeerm
OMG, are you blind? The news was out early this morning before he spoke in Miami. It was a act of terrorism and they new about it days ago. Furthermore they were warned days before it happened.
Our Lier in Chief or someone in the administration dropped the ball. We all new about it before he did?
The following was reported yesterday 9/19/2012/
Give me a brake.
Libyans held a vigil for Stevens. More citizens showed up for that vigil than were participating in the attack on the consulate. Thinking that all humans living in the middle east/north Africa hate the US is precisely what the terrorists want.
Take a look at their long objective (speaking of radical Islamic terrorists, not Muslims in general): Sharia law over the globe. geopolitically, the only deterrent to them achieving this goal are the Western powers (US, Canada, Europe, Japan) and China/Russia. China/Russia have developed a live and let live policy with the terrorists because the terrorists are focused on their hatred of the West. Were we to evacuate from the Middle East, these extremist ideologies would be able to consolidate power and turn the entire region into a haven for extreme terrorist groups, much like Afghanistan prior to the US invasion.
Helping to establish democratic government, even if in control of those who we wouldn't prefer, and showing the citizens of these nations how a democratic system can be better for all of them will help to prevent the spread of terrorists havens. Those democratic governments will grow into helpful members of the world community, providing new markets for us and security for their people. It won't be pretty as these people express their freedom, and we will be vilified in the short term by those radical groups, but the long term goal of spreading democracy shouldn't be thrown out the window just because it will be hard.
CA, Candice im just gonna ask a simple question.
Do you want us to get into another war after the two we JUST got or getting out of? cause if so, go ahead vote Mitt because that is most likely what will happen if Mitt Romney gets into office.
for me i would rather like to avoid war it is a damn waste.
Revelation: The death of our ambassador was an act of terrorism.
Interpretation: The death of our ambassador was not a reaction to the video as we were led to believe.
It's reasonable to assume that a terrorist attack is not a random act of violence because of some bogus video. This was a planned reprisal for 9/11 on 9/11. That is an aggressive act of war. Also, now Obama's press secretary says this act of terrorism is "self-evident." Well, self-evident is a synonym of obvious! He is saying this was obviously a terrorist attack but it took a week to deduce that?! C'mon. Sounds like a cover-up or attempted cover-up.
Annoyedperson, look up Neville Chamberlain. You two have a lot in common.
"whole Middle East hates us"
Hi, Northstar. It's not the "whole" Middle East. But the truth is, regardless of whatever leader of theirs survives, there are going to be factions whose intent is to do us harm. It was, and is, wrong to believe that because Bin Laden was taken out, the extremist groups would dismantle.
Reminds me of a quote: You cut the head off a snake, and it grows another one. You cut that one off, you find another. You can't kill it, because it's something within ourselves. (Except in, this case, within them).
I wish President Obama would have waited to gather the facts, and then state them honestly, regardless of how they wind up effecting the perception of his campaign. We're entitled to the facts, I think.
deasel your post is pretty ignorant cause you assume that because i don't want to go to war means that i am weak-willed pacifist
ill say it now NO SANE person wants to go to war (except people who will profit from war they love war) war is a damn bloody waste
but just because i say that i hate war doesn't mean i wont fight, i can and will fight if i have to but you better have a pretty damn good reason.
annoyedperson -
No side is eager to get into another war. With the happenings going on right now, we'd have to engage Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Sudan, Somalia and the rest who are attacking our embassies, and burning effigies of our President. That's quite a few countries.
President Obama says he "told them they are supposed to protect our interests." That he thinks because he said it, it will be done is crazy.
The action to take is somewhere between a strict talking to and lobbing a few missiles (which Clinton at least bothered to do in Beruit). Somewhere in the middle.
Not the sidelined, preoccupied with politics policy we have now.
Face it, whatever President Obama says or does, the right-wing will find fault in it. Mitt Romney will criticize it and so will John McCain. That is what conservatives/republicans do these days. The right is as extreme in their hated of President Obama as are the radicals in the Middle East's hatred of the US. The questions which should be asked of the GOP: What would republicans do? What is Romney's plan for the Middle East. Odds are, both responses would be invasion and war if they thought they could get away with it.
Anyone with a brain cell knows that it will be sometime before all the pieces of this puzzle are in place. Right now, we can assume that the anti-Islamic film ignited much of the anger and the protests. We can assume that radical groups in the Middle East, which engage in stirring the hatred, did just that--we can them thugs, we call it encouraging mob mentality. We can assume that radical terrorists assassinated Ambassador Stevens and three others. What we cannot assume is to know how all these link together. President Obama is correct, they were extremists and by nature of the act, that automatically makes them terrorists.
Terrorists can be used to describe the Columbine shootings, the theater shoots, Oklahoma City, the Gabby Giffords shootings and it also describes car bombings, 9/11, and the attacks on our military. Terror is what terrorists do.
Candice i have to say its interesting to see that a few years ago you guys where outraged that Obama was "lobbing" a few Missiles to help the rebels when the Lybians where rebelling against their leader and now you casually criticize Obama for not "lobbing" a few missiles in response to a few extremist radicals
please just choose a side
and in a city full of some odd thousands of lybians just how many were attacking the embassy. stop lumping everyone who looks Muslim as a Muslim extremist out to kill us
while i agree that we need to take a stand and be strict, we shouldn't just react
candice,
Of course there are extremst groups in the ME and will be for years.
The point is that in the new emerging countries like Libya, Tunisia , these factions will take advantage of the situation to promote their own hate and their agenda for power in these countries.
Obama and his security counsel gets the latest information, in spite of what CNN is reporting from an unnamed source about knowing what Stevens was thinking.
What I think the American people are entitled to is a government that understands all the various threads of any one event. And makes decisions based on facts, anticpating the whole series of actions that are needed and implements them.
It was Romney who jumped into the fray late on the evening of Sept 11. Looking for a political angle with his quick press release and tweets from his compaign advisors .
If you think Romney has the temperament and acumen to be president and getting the late night call about a crisis, then vote for him.
I defintely think he would be a disaster in foreign affairs ,let alone handling a crises.
President Obama is the one I trust in these very dicey times.
annoyed -
I used the terms: somewhere in the middle, some factions. You're the one making extreme generalizations.
We should react. We should get all of the facts first. We should have had facts pretty quickly, I think, with the intelligence agencies around the world that are supposed to be paying attention. I'm getting the feeling neither the White House nor State Department had nor has much of a clue of what's going on. I'm not feeling warm and secure with that.
We should take a stand. Unfortunately, we're too busy campaigning, it seems, to do so.
So how do you excuse ignoring intel reports which led to the needless deaths of 4 people?
That 3am call came and the administration was passed out drunk.
George W. Bush knew al qaida was responsible for Twin Towers instantly but Obama can't figure it out after a week ? Wake up people!
He even had three days advance warning that it was coming on 9/11 and did not have the embassies re-enforced and on high alert.
I am not sure what the right response is at this point but I know bullies keep pushing you around until they are shown that it is no longer in their best interests.
These muslims are bullies and the movie clip has nothing to do with any of it.
Red, Jody and Northstar -- Well said.
Here's what the Australian Treasurer is saying about the Republicans here in the U.S. today:
Northstar,
I want to believe the President and his security counsel get the latest information but the way it seems to be coming out, I'm wondering what's going on.
On the first 9/11, pretty much immediately it was known that the attacks were coordinated by Al-Queda. I was comforted, I guess, that it seemed Washington was aware of what's going on in the world with our enemies. (At the same time, I wondered, if they knew of these groups and their intentions, how come we didn't know enough to stop it). Sort of conflict of confidence and lack of confidence.
This time, it's been over a week and they're still trying to put the pieces together. Has our intelligence weakened? Or are warning signs being dismissed? If this wasn't election time, I might not be so cynical. I'm afraid the President is preoccupied. I don't feel as confident as you.
Regarding Romney's comments that night. I don't know if he spoke too soon or inappropriately. It may have seemed so at the time, but once the time lines were reviewed and with the emergence of new events, it sort of appears he was right.
I think a President Romney would be thoughtful in foreign affairs. He's not the hard core right wing the conservatives want him to be and the left thinks that he is. (in my opinion, of course).
I wish it could be different, Northstar, but looks like you and I will be cancelling each other's votes.
It's always nice to exchange ideas with you.
Alrighty ... haven't been posting today because some idiot decided to share their cold bug with me ... but ...
Jody - what's up with your avatar and what is going on with Feisty??? (e-mail me, please!)
Concerned ....
Sweetcakes, please take a brake on your breaks.
That being said, I've watched a lot of news programs today in my hazy Dayquil/Nyquil fog and the only conclusion that I have is this. President Obama is doing very well on the foreign policy front. Had he HAD information prior to some little insurgent crowd going bananas he would have acted on it. Seriously people!!! Did we have information on the Columbine shooters? They were two crazy radicals that yes, in hind sight, left a trail, but to want to look backward and place the blame finger. Good he!!!!!!!
My concern today was more about Boehner shelving the farm bill and telling Congress to go home for 7 weeks. No matter WHAT you all think today, if our Congress can't act or do a thing to help this nation, how on EARTH are we going to help others??????
Candice,
It is hard for me to know what Romney stands for these days. I do know he has lots of the neocons from the Bush era as his foreign policy advisors. There will be a debate which will be about foreign policy , so everyone will hear him and President Obama lay out their policies and answers to specific questions.
We defintely are two people who have already made up our minds about the election. We are indeed in the majority. There is only a sliver of folks who are truly undecided.
Our votes will not be canceling out each other unless you live in MN? :-)
Mn will go blue, as we have for years.
If you live in a swing state, your vote will have some weight but right now Romney is trailing in the important swing states.
It is always a pleasure to discuss topics with you.
Northstar,
I live in Illinois - My vote won't make a difference at all. :-(.
Layton,
Don't mix your Dayquil and Nyquil together! Did you see Senator McConnell's speech on the floor today? He was asserting the same exact thing as you mention- how the Senate isn't doing anything and there's so many things that need to get done.
I hope you feel better soon.
Thanks, Candice! And no, I don't mix them .... I can't stand taking anything .... not a pill kinda gal! Netti pot works and a lot of Vit C.
On my cold note ... PEOPLE! If you have a cold, stay home from work!!! ARRGGHHHH!!!! Share your joy but NOT your bugs!
what's really terrorizing is Mitt's decision to blame the whole tragedy in Libya on the President.
AND if George W. Bush was still president dealing with this Libya tragedy, Bush would definitely invade Iraq again.
Tony said,
"Unlike that other political party who wants to go to war with everyone."
Alright Tony... I'm calling you out... show the world where Romney has said he want to go to war with ANYBODY...
I'm sick and tried of you liberals saying "who wants to go to war with everyone" when you have NO PROOF at all of Romney or Ryan saying anything remotely close to wanting to go to war with ANYBODY!!
C'mon... Tony ... The World is waiting for this BREAKING NEWS you have...
old fat guy-1144960
that's because GWB had 40+ intel memos warning him about al Qaeda's planning an extreme attack which he dismissed as no big deal. 3000 deaths later, he decided to know instantly.....
Maxx Power
show me that GWB has said during campaign that he would start two unapid wars? Yet he did- he lied and cheated and misinformed and got his wars.
I don't buy your contention that most of the Middle East is our enemy. I lived there and I know the people.
Are there extremists and terrorists in every Middle Eastern country? Yes, of course there are. We have extremists here in the U.S. too. Most of the population of the Middle East are the same as people anywhere else on earth: they want to live in peace.
The Middle East is made up of vastly different countries and cultures. We turn 'everyone' there into our enemy, either verbally or physically, at our own peril. President Obama understands that, and he is moving with his usual deliberate speed to actually resolve isssues there rather than slap a bandaid on the situation and send someone over for a handshake and a photo op (see Condoleeza Rice).
Did you hear what Romney said behind closed doors about 'kicking the ball down the field' in the Middle East? Yet he talks tough in public. Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up?
As for the tragic death of Ambassador Stevens, there are unsubstantiated rumors flying around about how he died. Romney needs to be cautious at a time like this and get the facts straight before shooting off his mouth.
Romney should take his cues from President Obama if he wants to look presidential, although quite frankly, I don't think he has it in him. Just watch.
Excellent point, Tzalaran. President Obama looks at the big picture and sees the situation in the Middle East in terms of decades, not months. Anyone who thinks there is a quick fix over there is smoking something. One of the main problems with our foreign policy is its inconsistency, as one president does a terrible job (Bush) and the next one gets blamed because 'they all hate the U.S.' Where did the hate come from? (Hint: Bush invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.)
Tell me this, neocons, how would you feel if our country were invaded and our innocent civilians were slaughtered to go after a group of terrorists?
Did you notice that most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis? Did you really believe Rumsfeld when he told you American soldiers would be welcomed in Baghdad with flowers and parades? Did you really buy Bush's lies about WMD in Iraq? Who is that gullible?? Please educate yourselves.
Obama has done an excellent job fighting terrorism. Look at all the Al Qaeda leadership that has been removed. Did you really think all terrorism would end with bin Laden's death? Did you really think it wasn't worthwhile to go after him anyway?
RE-ELECT A CAPABLE LEADER, PRESIDENT OBAMA
Bayllie said,
"show me that GWB has said during campaign that he would start two unapid wars? Yet he did- he lied and cheated and misinformed and got his wars."
Hey dip s-it Bush is not running!!
Thanks for playing...LOSER!!
Candace, has it ever occurred to you that matters of national security are not for public consumption, and why they are not?
Obama's administration has been unfairly criticized for discussing the details of the SEAL Team 6 mission that took out bin Laden. Maybe when conservatives stop attacking the President over every issue for political gain, and maybe when the day arrives that the average American citizen has the knowledge and the sense to understand the difference beteen places like Benghazi and Baghdad, you will be told what-- at this point-- you cannot be trusted to handle.
Candice, you have to realize (and its obvious by many posts here) that obama could have physically stormed the embassy and killed all 4 people with his bare hands, and that would have no effect at all on these libs worshiping him.
Everything you said there was completely true, and more so, showed absolutely no lean to the left or right, it was a non-partisan statement, yet you got attacked because it didnt just blindly support obama.
Anyone who has ever been on the ground at a violent incident or an attack of any type, anywhere in the world, knows that there will be conflicting accounts of what happened. CNN almost ALWAYS gets the facts wrong. Don't even get me started on the useless 'reporting' of Fox. It can take weeks for the truth to come out. News organizations never seem to apologize for their incorrect stories, do they?
President Obama has nothing to walk back. He has wisely said very little about the attacks for many reasons, one of which has to do with the safety and security of the millions of Americans living and working overseas. Those people are living with a bullseye on their backs. Personally, I'd feel much safer and more secure with Obama at the wheel instead of that hotheaded (or is he really milquetoast?) flip-flopper, Romney.
The protests in Cairo were clearly the result of Muslim extremists using this film trailer to provoke their followers and other Muslims. In Benghazi, reports suggest that the same thing happened there except there were heavy weapons used there.
My understanding of Benghazi was that a screaming mob approached the front gate of the consulate. As the mob approached the front gate, security personnel headed there too where they were surprised by a grenade attack from areas adjacent to the front gate. This could have been a strategy to use the mob as a distraction to draw security personnel into the fire zone.
What was clear at the beginning is that there was a screaming mob approaching the gate. And that is what US UN Ambassador contended. With further investigation, it became clear from intercepted communications that there were terrorists talking about these attacks. This info linked the violence in Benghazi to known terrorists and that is now the story.
There is no coverup here, just a methodical investigation that says what they know when they know it. Speculation can be left to posters and media types as well as political opportunists, but our government must operate based on facts and they should not say anything in a situation such as this that is not based on fact.
Attacks on our people --> Obama in Las Vegas --> Sec of State Hillary apologizing for movie??
If anything, Obama should have cleared his schedule and find out what was going on... but that would have interupted his campainging
then yesterday...
Obama told the Hispanics that he failed them as president, but that they should give him another chance.
Obama, you failed more than just the Hispanics, let me tell you! Illinois job numbers out today, unemployment at 9.1%
Dems, please take an economic class before trying to run for office, you might just learn something!
Seriously, Obama is going to say or do whatever he thinks is going to help him save his job, and lucky for him the lapdog media is doing everything they can to help him out, ignoring the reports that we knew 48 hours ahead of time what was coming and did nothing....trying to make it appear that all of this was about some stupid youtube video.
This is Obama's foreign policy blowing up in his face, but Obama has never accepted responsibility for anything in 4 years. It's always Bush's fault.....and now he points the finger at some stupid youtube video......and amazingly his worshipers and followers in the media continue to help spin all of this so that Obama can appear blameless. Today's media has shown itself to be nothing more than another arm of the Obama Re-Election Propaganda Machine.
Common No Sense Mike
Obama is no Romney. Obama is truthful and careful when he speaks, unlike Romney who pursues a campaign of LIES and rash talk.
Just today, Romney cites CBO (Congressional Budget Office) report projecting that more people may have to pay a penalty (or tax) for not getting health insurance under ACA (Romney called people in this category "free riders".
But when the CBO projects that ACA will reduce the deficit, that $716 billion in Medicare cuts are cost savings (that will be used to fill doughnut hole in Prescription Drug Plan), Romney campaign simply ignores these nonpartisan, most reliable projections and simply LIES about it.
You can't have it both ways Mitt. Either the CBO is to be trusted (as most people, in the know, do) or not.
Romney LIES on Medicare, ACA, Welfare Reform, 47%, 100%, and apologizing.
shaak:
Yeah, careful and truthful.
Lots of truth, right?
Some of these were promises such as Gitmo that were blocked by Congress. You did not build that referred to roads and bridges which are fully funded by government. Racial profiling in case of black Professor was pretty obviously a stupid tactic of police. Whatever health care debate there was, was on C-Span. That Congress sought to limit debate here was in response to Republican obstructionist tactics which were not anticipated. The serving of Administration officials as lobbyists within 2 years of leaving their post is a major improvement here.
So, I conclude that OBAMA has been truthful and he cannot always predict the future. Who can predict the future?
I notice you did not defend Romney's LIES. Say it ain't so, Mitt. Mitt is a LIAR.
He had no plan to close GITMO other than to blame congress (that was stacked with dems).
"You did not build that." is what he said. I'm not going to infer meaning when he can perfectly well speak for himself. He did, however, riff that from Elizabeth Warren (who did expound upon it) which shows he can't even plagiarize properly.
Was it racial profiling when the professor said "Do you know who I am?" and got all peeved when the cops wanted to see ID?
He promised all debate on CSPAN and we didn't get it. Congress was stacked with dems so your cries of obstruction are kinda worthless.
You can conclude all you want but that doesn't make it true.
As the incumbent, Obama has to convince me to vote for him a second time. Simply being the president isn't enough.
Obama and Obamaites always have some excuse for the failures of this President. It's always somebody else's fault or there is something else to blame. Like I said earlier......this President has not accepted responsibility for anything that has happened since he took office.....and we are suppose to believe that 4 more years of the same crap will some how make everything alright. What's even more unbelievable is how some people swallow up his lies and propaganda and want 4 more years of the same crap!
Concerning Gitmo.....haven't you heard...the guy who lead the attack in Libya was at Gitmo...we had him locked up....but all the liberal bleeding hearts insisted he be released.....and look what that accomplished.....4 more Americans dead!!
To be fair, the president has taken credit for the health care act - the one that he had to gut and make look like Hillary Clinton's even though he said in the 2008 debates her plan was stupid and looked like the plan they had in Massachusetts and bribe his own party with pork spending so they would go along with it.
And we can't forget that night when he put on his cape and flew overseas, killing Osama with his bare hands.....(at least that's how some make it sound).
I wonder why the media hasn't questioned the possibility that maybe having every single speaker at the DNC brag about Obama killing Osama might have something to do with the Middle Eastern protests? We have seen Osama signs and watched them burning Obama's picture.........naw....it's just about some stupid youtube video. (and all the partisan blinded worshipers of Obama in the media just follow along like good little puppies)
And whatever we do, we can't discuss the fact that we had warnings about what was going to happen 48 hours before it happened and did absolutely nothing......(well I say nothing but actually there was quite a bit of campaigning and fundraisers that happened)
Well, he probably didn't get the memo yet. I'm sure he'll read about the word change in the daily briefing tomorrow.
it was work place violence?
Candice,
Jorge Ramos the co-host put the pressure on Obama when he questioned him about Fast and Furious.
The best part was when Ramos asked the president “But if you have nothing to hide, then why are you not releasing papers ?
Obama - The truth is we’ve released thousands of papers.
Ramos - But not all of them.
Can you image if our media asked questions like this?
You guys are bonkers. Guess you didn't hear that the President is leading comfortably in three battle ground states. Ones that Romney desperately needs and one is even the VP candidates home state. Talk about a rough day. The Republicans have had quite a few lately. And there are more to come leading up to the election.
lets just hope so. No more whiffle balls to Obama. He needs to start answering. both of them do
Good for Mr. Ramos! Although they really need to, our media won't ask hard questions. There seems to be a bit of a bias in most of them. And then there's always the threat of being treated like the White House treated the San Francisco Chronicle.
Yes, imagine if the President - or any politician - actually had to respond to the American people through the press. I wonder if they would make better decisions knowing they'd have to explain.....
Or any politician running for the president. Romney earned his dodge-ball badge by using his press avoidance tactics.
Gee, great "debating" skills you got there taxman...still can't seeem to come up with ONE reason to vote for Romney...only "abo"...funny, but I hear Noot quit...or you gonna write him in?
Btw, how was your little vacay? Still haven't learned a thing, right?
Sure you haven't...
Poor Pizza Boy still doesn't get it.
ask B. Honest. The Libyans were trying to save Stevens. These sad cultist will worship Obama like Jim Jones.
How was yours? we shared the same corner.
Keep defending the BIG O. I see yours havent even surfaced. You cant even tell me why you vote for O. PATHETIC MICK. Im done with you.
I love Pizza Pizza.
[How was yours? we shared the same corner.]
Really? Cool...I had no idea...but see...it bothers YOU more than it bothers me... ;)
[PATHETIC MICK. Im done with you]
Of course you are...don't forget that little ignore button Pizza Boy...but I bet you can't...you won't...even big brained Spanky couldn't do it...just another one of his many fabrications, just like you.
But do go away mad...just go away, carrying your ass out the door in a sack.
So, still can't come up with a reason to defend your candidate Romney, I see...seems bashing the president is all you have...so very sad...precious, but sad.
PIZZA! PIZZA!
Ignorance is nitpicking over word choice. It is obvious, the right prefers nitpicking word choice rather than waiting for all the facts. Ask Darryl Issa how that worked how for his Witch Hunting GOPers.
What is sad is how conservatives posters seem to relish the events in the Middle East hoping it helps their presidential candidate. Mitt Romney is more Neville Chamberlin than Barack Obama has been or ever will be.
How many times did Romney emphasize 100% on Univision????? I got so tired of listening to all of the quips on it. He is not a 100% President and his shift yesterday just proved that the man can't find his own center. How does he even stand upright????
Layton,
I agree.
When Romney keeps using 100% , it reminds folks that he also said 47% at his private fund raiser.
If he really wants to pivot, why doesn't he just use the very good words "all or everyone" instead of 100%?
Hope you get better soon.
Northstar, thank you!
If Romney was Obama, he would turn white.
Republicans find democracy and the Constitution a nuisance. The Party is the thing. Germany, Italy, and Russia revisited.
AffinityGW
If Romney was Obama, he would turn white.
Affinity you difinetly have it wrong. It isactually Obama who has said about changing the Constitution.
Weird, can't find that anywhere in a credible news source.
Weirder, the republicans are using black panthers to intimidate voters now?
Was that Carney's moron twin saying exactly the opposite just this week?
Where's UN Ambassador Rice?
Where's Obama?
When do we hear retractions from their non moronic twins?
To quote Dick Cheney, "so".
The Ambassador didn't want the higher level of security because of the fact that he wanted to get out among the Libyan people. He died doing what he loved to do. There are still very dangerous places in the world and when one is there they can expect possible trouble. We don't rule the world and we can't expect that everybody has to be just like us.
Stevens actually wrote of his fear of being killed by extremists due to inept foreign policy.
conservative,
Can you provide a link for the your statement " fear of being killed by extremists due to inept foriegn policy"?
I agree with Northstar, Conservative, please post a link. If you don't have one, then cork it with your so called facts.
The whole administration is amateurish and stupid.
Come on November.
con: Talk about amateurish and stupid.....just look at Romney's campaign...LOL! Even Repubs are deserting that sinking ship!
Nothing in this world is "self evident." Always ask to see the evidence.
This puke pathalogical LIAR president and administration are just stupid,totally inept or just out and out LIEING to the American people AGAIN! Maybe it is all 3. I just prey our country can survive untill we fire this pitiful excuse of a leader along with his socialist libtard regime. Romney/Ryan 2012!!!
Murphy, if your going to insult ... you ought to take the time to do so correctly. Last I checked, lieing is not a word, nor is prey (unless you're hunting.) All of your Romney/Ryan lovers are so in need of those that you deny jobs too . . . . like teachers!
We get our point across. WE do not talk in platitudes and innuendoes like socialist lib democrat godless babykillers as we do not allways feel we are the smartest people in the room as you also. Take your smug obama a$$ smelling nose and stick it back up in their while you think of more lies and hatemongering to spew to the American people.
I'll grant you this much, Murphy: you were right about that part!
Hatemongering? Did someone mention hatemongering?
You're a Romney supporter, aren't you? I thought so. Get out there and represent him in your community! He needs guys like you to show undecided voters what kind of people support him.
For a moment, put away all the sound bites, remarks taken out of context, "clever" misspellings, and childish name-calling. Let's take a quick look at just one of the things this election means to us personally.
Last week the Obama administration started its third round of printing fiat money (currency that a government has declared to be legal tender, despite the fact that it has no intrinsic value and is not backed by reserves). $600 billion is the current estimate. That's almost $2,000 apiece for every man, woman, and child in the country! In the past, when governments print money to cover their own expenses, massive inflation results. To us, personally, that means the buying power of our savings and income will be severely reduced within about a year, if Obama is reelected. Think about what you will need to do to survive - it will happen.
Romney is a proponent of fiscal conservatism. That is, he recognizes the effects of deficit spending.
Sure he does, Kannin, and he wants to walk into a war that Israel wants. If that event happens, God help us all. Please read your Bible ... the Palestinians/Israelis have been fighting it out since the days of Abraham.
Layton - Have you ever heard the term "non-sequitur"?
Yes, Kannin, I have ...
And when looking up the definition, it so defines your candidate. Your post did not relate to the Biblical reasons of the tensions in the Middle East. Nice deflection.
Layton,
Looking at the original post, nowhere does it mention the bible, or Israel/Palestinian issues. So STTS?
Actually Kannin, it is the Federal Reserve, which is NOT a part of the Government, it is privately owned (look it up if you do not believe me) that has started their QE3. President Obama and our Government has nothing to do with it, it is a matter of the Fed doing what it's charter requires them to do. It is not Government that the Fed is shoring up, it is using this QE3 to buy up toxic mortgage derivatives that have kept home loans and lending at record lows. It is a matter of stimulating the economy by helping the banks, which I, myself, find wrong in some ways, but it is NOT the Government that is printing money.
You seriously need to quit working for the spin shop that only pays you $.25 per post!
Romney has no idea what fiscal conservatism is, he is a fiscal vulture that has used Government money more times than you can shake a stick and pays a MUCH lower tax rate as an actual percentage of his ACTUAL income than most Americans when you figure state income and sales taxes, Federal Excise taxes etc. which usually combine, even for those who pay no income tax due to the REPUBLICAN tax cuts in the Bush Admin, to be around 25% of their income....Romney barely pays half of that, and only pays "Income Tax" on his speaking fees, otherwise he weasels out of paying his fair share by tax loopholes (bought and paid for by those with more money than they know what to do with) and "Capital Gains" taxes, which he weasels on as well. What?? You say he has not done these things?/ Show me his tax returns then, or YOU have no proof to confirm nor deny!
B. Honest:
Interesting that you try to vilify Romney for taking advantage of the tax code (which is the law by the way) but not the legislative branch that writes the laws (and can change them) nor the president who EXTENDED those cuts that Romney (and the rich of all political persuasion) enjoy. Why is that?
Good luck with that wait.
Chef, somehow you forget the the very reason that President Obama extended the tax cuts is because the Repubs blackmailed him with trying to cut off the unemployment extensions at a time when millions of people were depending on them due to the HUGE jobs loss from BUSH. (Yes, I said the name of He Who Must Not Be Named)
President Obama looked after the NEEDS of The People.
Vilify Romney, no, he does that all by himself, I only put the facts out there that he uses tax loopholes not available to most people, ones that the Uber Rich, those with more money than sense, have bribed their Congress critters to pass, which did not take much due to the amount of money that they, themselves, have and want to keep sheltered. Just because it may be legal does not mean it is moral and just. Slavery was legal once too, and that was no where near moral nor just. The tax code needs to be rewritten, so that neither the Uber Rich nor Corporations pay less of a percentage than the people that do the labor that the rich and corporations make their money off from. They have been stealing from all of us with preferential tax treatment since Reagan. It is time to close off ALL tax loopholes and deductions after the 1st $1 million and tax capital gains just like any other income.
Anything less than this is just continued theft from those that actually MAKE the money that the rich and business owners/management class skim from them! Higher tax rates have been proven to help the middle class because the owners/management class leave more money in the business, investing in the workers and structure of the business itself because they would rather pay a lower tax rate on what they take for themselves.
Again, put away all the sound bites, remarks taken out of context, "clever" misspellings, and childish name-calling. Let's take a quick look at another of the things this election means to us personally.
During most of the Bush years, unemployment was in steady decline, averaging 5%. When the Democrats took over Congress in 2006, the decline was first halted and then reversed. After Obama's failed "stimulus", unemployment rose even more and stayed between 8% and 10%.
There is no reason to believe that Obama is capable of making that any better. To us personally, that means that, if we are looking for a job or worried about losing our job, our prospects are dim, if Obama is reelected.
Romney has grown companies that were on the brink of failure to create hundreds of thousands of new US jobs. As head of the Executive Branch he will be able to guide the economy toward that same kind of recovery.
Kannin,
You are so correct and yes, he did that at Bain. But those "jobs" that he created were for hard working people that did not qualify for benefits and only increased the profits of the business. People that work at Big Box stores work hard, meet and pay federal and state income taxes, and yet do not qualify for any type of benefits and in fact, meet the qualifications for food stamps. Those are the kind of jobs Mitt Romney supports. DISGUSTING!
Let's just use WalMart as and example .... sure ... I could launch into Staples ... but here's a link to WalMart profits. For every store that employs, let's say 400 employees, only 50 qualify for benefits as WalMart makes darn sure that the majority of their employees never have 40 hours per week.
THOSE are the Mitt jobs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/16/walmart-profits-up-but-us_n_928030.html
Obama/Biden 2012
Layton,,,The huffington post??? That is not a biased site? And you do not dare tell how your prophet king obama is considering 30 hours a week ,full time work. So does that not make a little more expense for not only wallmart but any small company?
The only thing that's self evident about this Administration is that Obama is incompetent to the point that he doesn't even agree with what his little monkey spokesman says and the result is, Obama's getting Americans killed.
God it would be nice having a leader and President back again!
So what is it libs....was it just a bad movie review or a terrorist attack??? Do you think you could at least get that straight???
God why did you make life so friggen hard.....by making liberals so friggen stupid????
Libs..... is true that up until last week, Joe Biden thought "Arab Spring" was a new bath soap made in the Middle East??
This President is sympathitic to the Muslim world in a way that endangers our soverneity and freedoms. I don't know why except to turn to Obama upbringing. I'm concerned that his judgement is clouded by his internel compass concerning our enemies, he simply wants to make friends with a people that has a different agenda for Islam. Islam has told him in no uncertain words that they see him and his efforts as non-Islam and would, I believe would kill him just as they did our diplomat and others. He spoke of Mitt Romney's inexperience in foreign policy and what a gaff in light of his own failed policies in the world. We need a change for no other reason than his incompetence in driving us futher indebt, trying to make America into a socialist country, dividing the America into groups that fight one another, and apologizing for who we are as americans. Mitt Romney will help us move in a direction of pride of country. a balanced budget, energy independence, jobs, jobs, jobs, and more unified people.
Is that Colonel Hillary Clinton on Pakistani television apologizing to the Muslims in the Middle East? On the taxpayers dime? You just cannot make this shytt up.
Joe..., it is called propaganda and has been done since the Cold War. Yes we do it to spin a favorable image of the U.S. in foreign countries.
I really find it hard to believe.....That everybody in the Country knew this attack was a planned terrorist attack that the Administration was warned about 3 days earlier. The Administration did nothing to beef up Secutrity because it was reported that Obama stopped reading Intel Briefs in the morning. This was 911 ...and the President was to pre-occupied about heading to Vegas for his Campaign speech.. Why was the Administration still lying to the public as of Sunday last week. I understand Obama is still blaming a stupid Video. Republican or Democrat...this is very scary for our National Security......
mike..., The failure to communicate started with the Intelligence officers who supposedly knew and the chain of command who should have acted on the Intel. The President doesn't have to make ALL the decisions on security on down to the staffing of our Embassies. Big Problem is there are still too many Cheney loyalists and incompetents in the Federal Govt. who haven't left for the private sector.
Milo ..I appreciate what you are saying...I disagree with you about the President. He is not present and he is not making good decisions ...and we cant keep going back to Bush and Cheny. This is 3-1/2 years on his watch.....nothing to do with anybody else....This is very scary the President is still telling people it was a Video......Even his Press Secretary dissagrees with him ...is he(Obama) lying to us? it sure looks like it.... to save face Politically.
Of course our esteemed leader isn't going to admit that this was a terrorist attack, admit that he knew about it 3 days before it happened and yet did nothing to beef up security and protect his people!! It's a crucial time in an election year-and he isn't going to risk losing votes by admitting he screwed up!!! Somehow, he'll find a way to blame it on Bush!! LOL!! What an idiot-incompetent a$$ we have for a president!