In rest of '98 clip, Obama speaks of 'competition' and 'the marketplace'

President Obama is seen speaking at a conference held at Loyola University in October 1998 about city government and public policy, in which then-Illinois state senator talked about making government more efficient.

 

Updated 11:29 p.m. — Mitt Romney's campaign this week has pounced on a 14-year-old clip of Obama speaking about "redistribution" in October 1998 at a conference in Chicago, in which the future president seems to extol the virtues of redistributing wealth.

Yet NBC News has obtained the entirety of the relevant remarks, which includes additional comments by Obama that weren't included in the video circulated by Republicans. That omission features additional words of praise for "competition" and the "marketplace" by the then-state senator. 

In the whole clip, Obama says:

I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody's got a shot.  How do we pool resources at the same time as we decentralize delivery systems in ways that both foster competition, can work in the marketplace, and can foster innovation at the local level and can be tailored to particular communities.

Obama continues in a few words after that to describe the use of tax credits in setting public housing development policy in Chicago as an example before concluding.

The video circulated by Republicans, which has used as fodder for an attack on Obama, includes a longer reflection by Obama about talking about how government action can be effective. But the clip has been cut short after the word "shot;" Obama's words about competition, the marketplace and innovation are omitted from the clip. 

Romney has nonetheless seized upon this clip as his campaign looks to regain its footing after the release of a surreptitiously-recorded video of the GOP presidential nominee speaking at a private fundraiser in May. Romney's campaign has been bogged down in criticism from conservatives and Democrats alike since the release of the clip, in which Romney talks about how he couldn't count on the support of 47 percent of Americans, since they pay no taxes, and are "dependent" on government.

The Republican candidate has used it as campaign fodder as recently as Wednesday.

"This is how America works. It does not work by a government saying, become dependent on government. Become dependent upon redistribution. That will kill the American entrepreneurship that’s lifted our economy over the years," Romney told donors at a fundraiser this afternoon in Atlanta. "The question of this campaign is not who cares about the poor and the middle class? I do.  He does. The question is who can help the poor and the middle class? I can! He can’t!"

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the Lefts silly motto is "Forward".

too bad left-wing lemmings dont realize they are hamsters on an excercise wheel; moving "foward" but going nowhere. the "jobs gains" are JOBS LOST ON OBAMA'S WATCH that EXISTED under Bush; no matter how many jobs were being lost at the end of the bush years; whjen Democrats were the majority of the US government for 2 whole years. we are still not back to even bush's highest unemployment number. and you can give obama a 2nd or even a 3rd term; jhe WILL NEVER HAVE BUSH'S UNEMPLOOYMENT AVERAGE; it would take WWII- type economic expansion and that isnt going to happen in the 1.-something GDP of the obama years

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Reply#484 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

You would do well to take the blinders off. You never know what a complete view of the facts will do for you. Your readers may even believe that you are an astute person.

    #484.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:09 PM EDT

    sure genius; net loss of jobs on obama's watch. which part of my post is the "blinders' part? what did i not get right?

      #484.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:14 PM EDT

      You said something bad about OBUMMER. Ignorance is BLISS just ask a LIBERAL.

      Romney/Ryan 2012

        #484.3 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:48 PM EDT
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        The Faux-Gaffes the Rightwing concocted for Obama off of these old videos were slightly more meaningless and non-controversial than the Faux-Gaffes the Leftwing concocted off of Romney's critique of the Obama embassy's weak response to attacks, and the 47% pay no taxes comment.

        Pretty much all worthless. Nothing Obama said was controversial in these old vids, it's pretty much standard Democrat beliefs...Romney's comments weren't a big deal either, even if the last one on the 47% was stupidly phrased.

        Wow! Romney criticized the Obama embassy for a weak response to attacks. Ooooo. And then the Muslims got more violent, so that uh...errr...makes the original criticism err...less valid...or something.

        Wow! Obama said pretty mild things in the 90's....what a shocker!

          Reply#485 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

          ChestyPuller

          He looked like the same old arrogant Odumbass. Looked like a prick then too.

            #485.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

            So we knew he was a marxist, communist, anti-capitalist back then, but yet the idiot liberals still voted for him. Some people are easily fooled. A vote from a fool for a fool. Why would we want anything to do with socialism when it has NEVER worked anywhere it is tried. The proof is all over Europe and is why we are in trouble now. Wake up people!!!!

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            #485.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:11 PM EDT
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            Romney has no problem with taking stuff out of context - LIAR!

              Reply#486 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

              And the blah blah and excuses from conservatives continue!
              This article is about Contards manipulating Obama's words in their favor. Just like they have done with Obama's writings like the "siding with Muslims", crap, "apologizing" and many more.
              Some dimwits here don't realize that on this era it is real easy to expose facts and lies.

                Reply#487 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

                JJsee

                Your drunk from the Odumbass crotch perfume. You wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you up side the head. Your Pucker Punch Drunk.

                  #487.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:02 PM EDT

                  STFU dumbass and go F%$k your mama

                    #487.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

                    you poor poor moron; obama is a hard-left progressive and EVERYTHING in his past says nothing else. too bad you are either an idiot ignorant of who he is supporting; or willingly and purposefully trying to deceive others of obama's true ideological leanings.

                    you are lying to your self; or lying to us. either way you are a liar

                      #487.3 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:06 PM EDT

                      Another failurecratzy stupidity

                        #487.4 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

                        BTW failurecratz and your moronic friends, go check some factual sites now and then and skip Fox entertaining.
                        Like:

                        factcheck.org

                          #487.5 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:11 PM EDT

                          JJsee

                          STFU dumbass and go F%$k your mama

                          Why would I want to do that when yours is so good at the BJ's ? Really good when she takes her teeth out.

                            #487.6 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

                            Why would I want to do that

                            Just because that's all you redneck hicks do!

                            BTW I'm taking your mama in the ass but I've seen much better

                              #487.7 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

                              JJsee

                              Figures, My mother past away 10 years ago. But that is still probably an upgrade from your usual.

                              By the way Libtard, get a job.

                                #487.8 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

                                Yeah and Obummer has been out on the campaign trail telling EVERYONE about his stellar performance the last 4 years. He is a failure and the only way to get re-elected is to talk $h!t about his opponent.

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                                #487.9 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:38 PM EDT

                                FactCheck. org is a laughing stock of libby BS. FACT. Factcheck says Obummer registered with Selective Serivice for the draft in 1980. FACT you did not have to register for anything in 1980. Draft registration was over in 1976 and Selective Service registration didn't start until 1984. SO factcheck is wrong. Factcheck. org is FULL of BS information. One of many select sites on the internet full of lies. I am the same age as the President, so I know his select service is bs. And by the way, He would have needed a Social Security number to register. He didn't get that until 1986

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                                #487.10 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:50 PM EDT

                                onermailliw

                                Thank you for those facts. & I know they ARE facts. I'm just a couple years older & I never had to register either. Do the lies for Odumbass ever stop. When will America quit giving him a by on all his lies.

                                Please keep posting this over & over.

                                  #487.11 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:05 PM EDT
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                                  Good job self-described Media Matters Hit Man, Michael O'Brien. You are doing your job as commanded from the WH. Now, where is the rest of the hidden camera tape. Seems Carter's buddy has curiously seemed to have lost the complete tape of Romney's private meeting with contributors. I wish we had a secret camera recording of some of The Amateur King's private George Soros or Hollywood socialist meetings. For that matter, maybe a bit more of those secret Russian or Muslim moments.

                                    Reply#488 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

                                    woah!! JJsee is quite the angry leftard huh? calm down o-bot b4 you blow a gasket or something.

                                    lemme guess you are one of obama's Black lemmings on a racist power trip? not living up to the stereotype?

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                                    Reply#489 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:10 PM EDT

                                    Read the comment I answered to, dumb ass

                                      #489.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

                                      awww go cry poor angry idiot; whats the matter? they trying to kick you off the library computer??

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                                      #489.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:17 PM EDT

                                      awww go cry poor angry idiot; whats the matter? they trying to kick you off the library computer??

                                      Who's talking about Idiot! If you think I'm angry when I'm having fun then you might be surprise at some other point.

                                        #489.3 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

                                        surprise at some point? i doubt it leftard. go use your obama cellphone and call some one who give a crap!! lol

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                                        #489.4 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:24 PM EDT
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                                        Why didnt Romneys Campaign Headquarters say anything about this? Oops I mean Fox News entertainment.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#490 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:17 PM EDT

                                        Like the LIAR NBC network with the LIAR OBUMMER. I meant DUMBASS LIAR OBUMMER.

                                        NOBAMA 2012

                                        So you IGNORANT liberals think Fox news supports Republican. For you info ALL media news sources support DUMBORATS more than they do REPUBLICANS, yes even FOX news.

                                        Why doesn't the OBUMMER campaign tell the truth about the economy. Truth hurts I know.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #490.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

                                        But your here getting the news so what does that say about YOU!! lolololololol NBC isnt banned in Canada for not telling the truth. lololol

                                          #490.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:00 PM EDT
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                                          The boneheads that get their News from the likes of NBC and MSNBC are getting nothing but a bunch of editted "sound bites" and more opinions than the actual facts.

                                          Why don't you "redistribute" some on your own $$$, before you try to "redistribute" mine.

                                          Take RESPONIBLITY for YOURSELF ... get off the Government TIT.

                                          WE ARE BROKE ... NO MORE MONEY TO HAND OUT ... QUIT THE SPENDING.

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                                          Reply#491 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:19 PM EDT

                                          @ ICan't,

                                          If we are broke - how can we afford to keep giving millionaires and billionaires tax cuts???

                                          How can we afford to keep giving tax breaks to corporations???

                                          Obviously, we are so rich - we have plenty of money to give away...

                                            #491.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

                                            BobbyG-420766

                                            Ask Obama & Biden Remember? GM lives & Bin Ladin is dead. They gave billions to GM. Where did that come from? OUR money. Now we are going to give billions more to his Bretheren, The Muslim Brotherhood after they kill our people? Where does that money come from? OUR money. Them spiking the football is probably what stired up his Muslim buddys.

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                                            #491.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:37 PM EDT

                                            @BobbyG ... better start clean house on your end ...

                                            John Kerry (D-MA) ... mooring his yacht in RI to afford MA Taxes ... Charles Rangel (D-NY) ... hiding income from Offshore rental property. And there are many many others ... if you got the $$$, you find ways of keeping your $$$.

                                            I do agree ... enough of the subsides ... enough of the foolish spending, i.e. $500+M thrown away into Solyndra ... millions wasted on leftwing, one-sided organizations like RealClear Politics, Plan Parenthood and the NPR.

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                                            #491.3 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

                                            @ Kevin,

                                            Nope - I'll ask the "job creators" that just got another tax cut for all those jobs they keep creating...

                                            @ ICan't,

                                            I'm not the one saying that America is broke... Republicans that don't want to pass a jobs bill for Veterans, but want to give more taxpayer money to their rich corporate buddies are the one's saying that we are broke...

                                              #491.4 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

                                              I am saying we are BROKE, I am not a rich person, but I see the IGNORANCE of this president and his DUMB policies and his giving money to Solyndra after they knew it was NOT in the taxpayers intrest. Like GM he only bailed out the UNION not GM, they would of been better off if they would of filed bankruptcy protection.

                                              Do away with all the contract including the UNION ones.

                                              NOBAMA 2012

                                                #491.5 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

                                                @ Steve,

                                                sounds to me like you are anti-union...

                                                I'm betting that you aren't going to give up all the benefits that you have in your workplace, like: 40 hour work week, overtime pay, vacation time, safety regulations, health benefits, greivance procedures, etc. - benefits that were fought for by UNIONS.

                                                Also GM supports million of outside jobs - jobs like transportation, steel mills, car parts stores, etc. - most of which are non-union

                                                  #491.6 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:40 PM EDT
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                                                  As Margaret Thatcher (former Prime Minister of Great Britain) once said "Socialism is GREAT - UNTIL you run out of other people's money"

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                                                  Reply#492 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:19 PM EDT

                                                  Or "tax the rich, feed the poor, 'till there are no rich no more" Ten Years After

                                                    #492.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

                                                    Great quote ... the more they attempt to take other people's money, the more the other people find ways of keeping it ...

                                                    The Tax burden in the USA and the lack of tracking / controlling the spending, lead me to open a few Offshore entities ... and Obama can't touch the $$$ they generate.

                                                    So much for his redistribution policies ... I guess I did follow some of his policy ... like MANY other Companies, I "redistributed" my income sources Offshore ... which, by the way, is perfectly legal ... the monies generate, stay Offshore ... thank goodness for Offshore Online Banking!

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                                                    #492.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:30 PM EDT
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                                                    President Obama is an authentic comrade in arms. He understands that wealth redistribution is a prerequisite for the promotion of a classless society. Please support the Movement.

                                                    Workers of the world, unite!

                                                    Join: cpusa.org

                                                      Reply#493 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

                                                      When you run out of other peoples money, what will you do?

                                                        #493.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

                                                        Sorry ... I am not interested in living in a classless society ... I worked my butt off to working my way up the ladder.

                                                        In a classless society EVEYRBODY get a "trophy" ... if everybody gets a trophy, does anybody real win?

                                                        Take responiblity for your own life, I have ... and I am winning ... and you and Obama aren't redistributing my hard earned Lifestyle.

                                                          #493.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:49 PM EDT
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                                                          I'm shocked!!! Shocked I tell you....

                                                          Republicans brietbarting President Obama again... Santorum was right, there are no smart Republicans... ;-)

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                                                          Reply#494 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:22 PM EDT

                                                          so u pikced up the 100 grand brietbart offered for slurs allegedly hurled at Black
                                                          Congressmen?

                                                          or are you just an idiot and a hypocrite/

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                                                          #494.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

                                                          I heard rick say dumborat are the stupidest people on earth. DUMBER than muslims even.

                                                          So bobby grow up and quit the name calling and I will also.

                                                          NOBAMA 2012

                                                            #494.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:14 PM EDT
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                                                            Mitt putting out the snippet of Obama from 14 years is so elementary trying to divert attention from his foot in mouth moment, It won't change the facts he is for the rich he is a lier, and could give less then a damn about us little people

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                                                            Reply#495 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

                                                            p.Mack

                                                            That's not as bad as talking about Romney cutting a queers hair in school? I think there was something else that the Odumbass camp was trying to use from his childhood too. Why can't the BOTH be held to the same standards?

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                                                            #495.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

                                                            Obama camp did not put info out about Mitt bullying other kidds just like they didn't put out the video of Mitt demeaning half of america, They both should be held to the same standards atleast we should compare apples to apples.

                                                              #495.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:49 PM EDT

                                                              Biden puts his foot in his mouth regularly ... we haev all gotten use to it.

                                                              "Put ya'll back in chains" ... and you got to LOVE the 'lil hood he put into the statement.

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                                                              #495.3 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:57 PM EDT
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                                                              BobbyG; corporations dont pay taxes no matter how much you tax them; they pass on the taxes to you in the cost of the things you buy.

                                                              2. tax cuts increase revenues because they lead to mroe investment.

                                                              educate yourself and you wont be a liberal

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                                                              Reply#496 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

                                                              NBC is showing it's bias again. This BS organization is real quick to slam and spin what Romney states, even to the point of blatantly lying then putting up no retraction or correcting themselves when the truth comes out. Scurry from the light you roaches. NBC Obamas protector.

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                                                              Reply#497 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

                                                              Oh the hypocrisy of it all !!

                                                              NBC you have now shrunk to a lower low.

                                                              The rest of the tape?

                                                              Seriously, why did you not use the rest of the Romney 47% tape then?

                                                              Why does NBC continually edit tapes to only show one side of a view point?

                                                              The point of the Obama tape is not "the rest of it" but what it says about redistribution of wealth which equals socialism in all its forms.

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                                                              Reply#498 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:36 PM EDT

                                                              "corporations dont pay taxes no matter how much you tax them; they pass on the taxes to you in the cost of the things you buy."

                                                              Cost of "things" coming from China are not too bad

                                                              "tax cuts increase revenues because they lead to mroe investment."

                                                              In foreign companies, but you can tell that to the Chinese

                                                                Reply#499 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

                                                                Except for the QUALITY of the stuff coming from china. Then you go to china and see how they are living there. you want the same for us here. I thought you DUMBORATS said that the republicans want to bring the wages lower. NOw I see you think its a good thing.

                                                                WOW can you liberals get your crap together and keep your lies straight.

                                                                NOBAMA 2012

                                                                  #499.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:18 PM EDT
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                                                                  If u want a diversion lets talk about why the repukes come back to the senate with there same old partison bull@!$%#

                                                                    Reply#500 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

                                                                    p.Mack

                                                                    We don't need ANY diversions to know that Obama has done NOTHING he said he would do. He has spent money don't have, no jobs, more people on welfare, more people on stamps, won't stand up to his Muslim Brethren, no nothing. If we all did our jobs the way he does his, we would all be on the Government TIT. Vote for who you want, but I won't get fooled again.

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                                                                    #500.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:55 PM EDT

                                                                    He has done a lot rather u choose to recognize it is your problem. Let me remind u when he came into office the economy was shedding between 700 and 800 thousand jobs. With his leadership he stopped the bleeding and added more than 4million jobs to the economy and he is not done even with the obstructionist party blocking every jobs bill he put out.

                                                                      #500.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

                                                                      You forgot about the JOBS bills the house passed and Harry tabled because he did NOT want you to know that the republicans have passed JOBS bills. Get the IGNORANT DEMORATS out of there so we can get our country back to WORK.

                                                                      Romney/Ryan 2012

                                                                        #500.3 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

                                                                        Well actually that nonsense they passed in the house was not a jobs bill it just cut taxes if cutting taxes was a job bill un employment would be zero

                                                                          #500.4 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:56 PM EDT
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                                                                          Obama is a waffling fool who has no personal mantra. One week after one of his ambassadors has been murdered in a terrorist attack as defined by the entire world, Obama finally figured out it was a terrorist attack. What is going on in this administration? Is Obama out partying every day with his appointees. Neither he nor his appointees seem to know what is going on in the world. Obama should be impeached immediately. If the President doesn't know a terrorist attack from a demonstration in over a week, they are massively ignorant with massively ignorant staffs. The guy should be cleaning toilets in some Chicago grade school! He'd be with his peers.

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                                                                          Reply#501 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

                                                                          I am surprised ... Obama hasn't blamed Bush for this ... yet.

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                                                                          #501.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:52 PM EDT

                                                                          If you have been paying attention he was being Presidential unlike Mitt he didn't jump to conclusions he wanted an investigation a responsible approach.

                                                                            #501.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

                                                                            That would be called a lack of Leadership. from the top down. Holder, didn't know anything about fast and furious? Lack of Leadership. Obama, lack of Leadership. Napalitano- lack of Leadership. The list goes on and on. And let's not even discuss the Czars that answer only to Obummer.

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                                                                            #501.3 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

                                                                            @p.Mack ...

                                                                            I don't know where you have been during the last week, but, Obama sure did jump to conclusions ... his conclusions "a video" started this.

                                                                            Now that the "investigation" (truth) is started to come out, Obama switches to "an act of Terrorism".

                                                                            I beleive what Mitt said was "We don't need to apoligize for our 1st Admenment" ... sounds Presidential to me.

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                                                                            #501.4 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

                                                                            Show one piece of evidence where the President has apologised, just one, and again the President waited for an investigation unlike Mitt he was ready to declare war on the President rather than the idiots responsible for the attacks on our embassies. Mitt got it wrong just like wrong wrong wrong,,,,,,

                                                                              #501.5 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:27 PM EDT
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                                                                              Anything and everything is fair game for spin doctors who twist and distort facts for a living. Any time I see a video snippet I immediately become suspicious since clipping and editing statements is just too easy these days (I have audio and video editing software right here on my workstation at home), and most of the edited stuff is being used to stir up antagonism within the ranks of voters.

                                                                              Divisive and incendiary rhetoric is very much in vogue these days as a viable political tool. The present day American political landscape is littered with hate mongering and outrageous propaganda, the likes of which have not been seen since Joseph Goebbels' heyday, nearly a century ago. The "Divide and Conquer" philosophy, though despicable, is nevertheless one of the most efficient and effective methods known to man for achieving power and leadership over the mass populace, and it's making a big time comeback.

                                                                              As a nation of free, enlightened, critical thinking people, we should never shirk, or take for granted our responsibility to carefully examine and question every political contention, assertion, and argument, as well as the possible motivations behind them that drive and sustain them. As big money from obscenely wealthy corporate plutocrats pours into the political fray, the message gets mixed, and the truth distorted to the point that even the most astute members of the electorate become hard pressed to separate fact from fiction. And while this benefits those who would mislead us, it also undermines our trust in the very people we need to be able to trust the most (our elected representatives).

                                                                              Now, with a major election a mere month and a half away, we all need to start by taking a deep breath, clearing out all the partisan political rhetoric we have been deluged with for the last nine months, take a moment to consider the condition of our country with regard to our economy, our security, our future goals, and most importantly, our basic rights under the constitution.

                                                                              There's a lot on the table this time around, and a lot has been said about the choice we are facing. What it comes down to is what you want in your government and what your government is going to require from you. Because as we all know, we can only ASK of our Government, whereas our government signs into LAW, and MANDATES from us.

                                                                              The choice could not be more black and white. If you value the right to collectively bargain with employers, if you value your Social Security benefits, the education of your children, or the healthcare rights of your wives and daughters, the medical assistance for your elderly parents, the veterans benefits for our kids who serve in the military, the laws that protect our bank and retirement accounts, and that prevent usury and fraud, our basic right to vote, etc.

                                                                              All of this...either the continuation of it, or the elimination of most or all of it altogether, depends entirely on which party we vote into power this November. Regardless of all the loud jangling rhetorical background noise, the heated and acrimonious name calling, and the daily visual media distractions, the core issues are still crystal clear, and they directly affect the quality of you and your family's lives over the next several years.

                                                                              I don't know how to state it any more plainly, this election is more than just the usual choice of which talking heads and self serving opportunists we allow to rule over us, it's about what our state of existence is ultimately going to become.

                                                                                Reply#502 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

                                                                                That is how OBUMMER wants it. Divide and decieve.

                                                                                NOBAMA 2012

                                                                                  #502.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:24 PM EDT

                                                                                  Last I check Mitt was the divider and deciever he said it straight from his own mouth 47%

                                                                                    #502.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:30 PM EDT
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                                                                                    S0-0-0 NOW the W.H. is saying it was a terrorist attack!

                                                                                    OBAMA & CLINTON need to be found GUILTY of Treason!!!

                                                                                    I for one (if it was legal ) would be one of the first to volunteer to put the BULLET between their LYING EYES !

                                                                                    They said in front of the coffins and FAMILY at Dover that it was because of the film and Clinton even went so far as to say we need to re-elect this INCOMPETENT President because under his leadership we will be a better country. What a F--King LAUGH !!!!

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                                                                                    Reply#503 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:54 PM EDT

                                                                                    Four years ago, Billy was speaking a different tune about Obama.

                                                                                    I would suggest you Liberals / Democrats go back and relisten to Billy's view on Obama's policies. I believe Billy said Obama was "living in a fantasy world".

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                                                                                    #503.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

                                                                                    Some more of that fine oustanding leadership this administration has.

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                                                                                    #503.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:07 PM EDT
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                                                                                    JJsee; obama's Jobs Czar is OUTSOURCING JOBS TO CHINA; even as his HUGE CORPORATION; GE; PAID ZERO IN TAXES under obama.

                                                                                    so you are a laughable loser to have the gall to even mention jobs and China

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                                                                                    Reply#504 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:09 PM EDT
                                                                                    BoneChinaDeleted

                                                                                    It's interesting stuff being told by both sides, and I'll say this both sides need to own up to what they've been caught on tape saying. This is what the debates are going to be about quotes and statements of both men so as an Obama supporter I think he should answer what he meant "I do believe in redistribution" just like Mr. Romney should answer what he meant "i don't care about the poor the poor have a safety net if the safety needs fixinf I'll fix it" neither one sounds like they made a mistake in there statements and meant what they said. SO let's see the answer.

                                                                                      Reply#506 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

                                                                                      We believe you this time, Mitt!

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                                                                                      Reply#507 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:13 PM EDT

                                                                                      Big deal, President Obama used the phrase "redistribution of wealth" in the context of helping communities wallowing in poverty with no foreseeable way out of their morass without serious help. Anyone with half a brain understands what he said when he used that phrase. He did not mean some communist ideal of equal distribution of wealth, but a fair distribution of wealth which is fast becoming less and less fair. We all know this, but some are unwilling to admit it due to their political persuasion. If you listen to what was cut from the Republican version of the recording you will hear Obama discuss attracting business and entrepreneurship into these communities to create jobs and hope for the people who live there. This is a legitimate method of "redistribution of wealth" understood in all civilized countries. You can't create a fair distribution of wealth, if you are exporting millions of jobs overseas. This is something the Republicans don't seem to understand or choose to ignore. It's extremely disingenuous when the Republicans choose to criticize someone like Obama who is trying to make things better for those in poverty by providing them with jobs and to misconstrue what he and the Democrats in general have been trying to do as socialism, Communism, Marxism, etc. How pathetic.

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                                                                                      Reply#508 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:15 PM EDT

                                                                                      who is "wallowing in poverty with no foreseeable way out of their morass withouth serious help"???

                                                                                      see this is what the big brains on the Left really think of poor women and minorities, mostly.

                                                                                      they are all helpless and hopeles losers in need of a Progressive to come to their rescue with handouts that come at the price of their freedom.

                                                                                        #508.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:25 PM EDT
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                                                                                        the fact that you neocon trolls are so afraid of the "r" word here is a little fact......the wealthy have increased their income while workers wages are stagnant. If that is not enough reason to look at how wealth is distributed in this country I do not know what is

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                                                                                        Reply#509 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:20 PM EDT

                                                                                        which "r" word is that leftard? your tired and pathetic race card??

                                                                                          #509.1 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:26 PM EDT

                                                                                          Joe

                                                                                          Don't feed the troll and they will go away. They're more attention seekers than anyone with anything substantive to say. Notice the use of libtards, lefties, leftards, etc. That's a sure sign of a no-nothing troll.

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                                                                                          #509.2 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

                                                                                          AMEN rational!

                                                                                            #509.3 - Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:09 PM EDT
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