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Subscribe to RSSPresident Obama is seen speaking at a conference held at Loyola University in October 1998 about city government and public policy, in which then-Illinois state senator talked about making government more efficient.
Updated 11:29 p.m. — Mitt Romney's campaign this week has pounced on a 14-year-old clip of Obama speaking about "redistribution" in October 1998 at a conference in Chicago, in which the future president seems to extol the virtues of redistributing wealth.
Yet NBC News has obtained the entirety of the relevant remarks, which includes additional comments by Obama that weren't included in the video circulated by Republicans. That omission features additional words of praise for "competition" and the "marketplace" by the then-state senator.
In the whole clip, Obama says:
I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody's got a shot. How do we pool resources at the same time as we decentralize delivery systems in ways that both foster competition, can work in the marketplace, and can foster innovation at the local level and can be tailored to particular communities.
Obama continues in a few words after that to describe the use of tax credits in setting public housing development policy in Chicago as an example before concluding.
The video circulated by Republicans, which has used as fodder for an attack on Obama, includes a longer reflection by Obama about talking about how government action can be effective. But the clip has been cut short after the word "shot;" Obama's words about competition, the marketplace and innovation are omitted from the clip.
Romney has nonetheless seized upon this clip as his campaign looks to regain its footing after the release of a surreptitiously-recorded video of the GOP presidential nominee speaking at a private fundraiser in May. Romney's campaign has been bogged down in criticism from conservatives and Democrats alike since the release of the clip, in which Romney talks about how he couldn't count on the support of 47 percent of Americans, since they pay no taxes, and are "dependent" on government.
The Republican candidate has used it as campaign fodder as recently as Wednesday.
"This is how America works. It does not work by a government saying, become dependent on government. Become dependent upon redistribution. That will kill the American entrepreneurship that’s lifted our economy over the years," Romney told donors at a fundraiser this afternoon in Atlanta. "The question of this campaign is not who cares about the poor and the middle class? I do. He does. The question is who can help the poor and the middle class? I can! He can’t!"
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hummbird.. No need to look it up.. I know all about Fox news and that they are leaning repubs.. No big surprise, you think you made a revelation? But now, I like to see you admit, ABC news, NBC news, CNN news, CNBC news, CBS news.. Liberal headquarters 24/7. So, 1 Fox channel versus 5 other channels.. So, why cry about Fox? Blame them all for leaning any direction instead of being honest and reporting the news as it happens instead of selective reporting? Remeber the big name anchor man who went as far as reporting fake documents to try and make Bush look bad? Lost his job.. He didn't work for Fox he worked for CBS or NBC.. Can't remember which liberal media outlet he was with right off hand.
Joebob, I listened I heard, many of those 47% are retiree's that worked hard all their lives, and are on SS and medicare. And many are in the base of the republican party. Disabled veterans etc. Many are the working poor having jobs at Staples and wal mart etc.
What did you think about his none plans for Israel?
I listen to people and many of our Republican friends are embarrassed at the whole lousy field of Republicans, and don't like Romney at all. And will tell you in private they are voting for Obama.
Fact Romney has been a moderate, a liberal more liberal than Ted Kennedy his words, now severely Conservative! He has held every position that there is. He takes both sides of every issue, he tells people what they want to hear.
Sorry he lies, he made millions off the backs of workers benefits and pensions, Fact: legal but not moral!
hummbird
The issue is 46% of the working public-get that-working public-that pays zero in federal income tax. That 46% does not include retirees or people on medicare.
correct. that 46% have been living off the dole from the government for a long-long-long time Thery are the "what is your's (those who contriubute into the system), is mine and we demand to have it. They are the bums, scumbags, moochers. don't know why people don't undewrstand this. But that is what romney was trying to convey. won't get their vote. And not going to try. waste of energy.
It includes everyone who doesn't pay federal income taxes, some of whom are retirees who live on Social Security. Medicare is irrelevant.
But the vast majority of them are working poor - 3 out of 5 of them - which means they do pay federal payroll taxes at a higher percentage than Romney pays income tax on his millions.
No, that is incorrect - see my comment above.
Romney showed his true colors at that 50k a plate dinner. He cares about the rich and the elite. He dont care about us he says that middle class is 200 to 250k a year. How many of you make this kind of money a year? Fact is Romney has zero concept of the real world. People who struggle daily to put food on the table and gas in the car these people to Romney are Throw aways.The man is an empty suit with no plan for America. He can not grasp any plan as he grasps at straws. He cant define any plan as he has no plan. The republican party is in trouble and they know it, They are ashamed of Romney and cant belive this was the best they had to put up against the President. Obama will get his second 4 years he will have my vote. and my whole extended familys vote. Obama cares about the whole country not just a %.
Didn't Obama just attend a $40,000 a plate fundraiser?
Now if NBC could only find the missing 1-2 minutes of missing tape relating to the 47% comments of Romney.
IPCMFG.....FACT CHECK. YOU DONT THINK people can check this online. Get the facts right. Obama DOES NOT HAVE 900 federal executive orders. You are a MORON. Obama only has 136 as of 8/31/12. That is alot less than your 900.
George W. Bush (2001–2009) -288 federal executive orders.
Ronald Reagan (1981–1989) - 380 federal executive orders.
Everyone knows this only came out because of Romney's video. Plus Obama's video is Fourteen years old who gives a crap about it now.
you better. That is all i got to say.
Obama is talking about government control. He clearly states he is for redistribution. But he goes on to say "foster innovation" & "Competition" ....."Tailored to fit particular communities". That is the operative term here. Obama wants to tailor government to fit communities . ...this guy is off the wall. A black radio talk show host in LA states the following about Obama...."He is openly hostile to business and aggressively hostile to Israel. His wife treats being the First Lady as her personal American Express Black Card (arguably the most prestigious credit card in the world). I condemn them because, as people are suffering, losing their homes, their jobs, their retirements, he and his family are arrogantly showing off their life of entitlement - as he goes about creating and fomenting class warfare." (Mychal Massie is a respected writer and talk show host in Los Angeles)
Redistribution of wealth upward to the top few per cent has been working since 1976 when the Supreme Court declared that it's legal to bribe politicians.
When poor people manage to lift themselves out of poverty, with or without direct government assistance, that's a redistribution of wealth. In his comments 14 years ago, Obama said that government systems ought to facilitate this. Do Republicans claim to disagree with that?
Dick
We have had government funded poverty assistance programs since Johnson's Great Society and today we have more poor people than ever, record numbers of poor people. How well do you think this has worked out?
Let me give you a hypothetical: you get a knock on your door. opening it, there is standing a man holding out a badge and asks if you are blah-blah? You stand at the front door, wondering what the hell is going on. You answer the question. The guy says, how many rooms do you have? you look at him funny as to ask that question. you answer, 4. he asks what is the four. Now you think, what in the hell is going on. and also, you see a man. woman. and three children standing behind him. You say, three bedrooms and a large family room. He looks at the family standing behind him and says "Here is your new housing." You look at him and say "These people are not coming ninto my house." The guy says. "sorry, but you don't own this home, it belongs to nthe federal government," You say, "federal government?" the guy says yes. "you say. "I never heard anything to this effect." the guy says, a law was passed three weeks ago. Don't think that this can't happen. Oh yes it can. It is called redistribution of personal property. and the reason you didn't hear about it, is because the mainstream media has been exempt as a token thank you for re-election. The conservative news outlets have been stiffled with the help of the DoJ. Yeah...vote for obama and his "everyone gets a shot."
BTW...obama is going to sign an exe order on the content of the internet. and...it is coming down the pike that obamacare ins. will be considered income and will have to be put down on the w2 form.yeah. mainstream is keeping all this from you fools. vote for obama. "Moving forwards."
jim-1963167- It was Obama 4 years ago who said the middle class was anyone who made under 250K.. No memory? he wasn't going to raise taxes on anyone who made less than that. You know what, my son works for pizzahut. made a little over $12k last year and had to pay over $230 more in federal taxes when he filed at the end of the year.. he got no refund, he had to pay. 5 years ago he would have got a couple hundred back. Not now. So dude, if left to Obama no one in this country will ever get a refund unless they have 5 or more children and no one will make 250k ever! And if you think Obama fundraisers aren't made up of millionaires just like Romney's then you are delusional. Obama's 50k a plate dinners are just the same except without classless dems hiding cameras.. But I think it would be nice now to see a hidden camera at one of his or of Michelles. The main difference between Romney and Obama is Romney likes all Millionaires and Obama only likes his Millionaire buddies!
hummbird - Romney wasn't talking about ssi or medicare. Those are paid into by the tax payer and aren't handouts, they are repayments when you are ready for them. He was talking about the people who sit at home, haven't had a job in 15 years but managed to have 6 children, draws $890 a month in foodstamps and cash child assistance of $500 a month. These are the people he was talking about. Arizona is full of them but they also don't vote here because that would mean getting off their asses and going to vote. He was talking about the people like that.. Not hardworking people who are getting back what they worked so hard for all their lives. But of course you didn't seem to get it. All you heard was bla bla bla 47%, bla bla bla etitlement, bla bla bla victims, bla bla bla. You heard what every liberal heard, just what mattered to you to jump on it. It took real class for someone to plant a hiden camera in a republican fundraiser didn't it? Is the liberal base so afraid of Romney that they needed to go to those lenghts? Really it doesn't matter what he said to anyone. People say he has no plan, he hasn't said what he was going to do for the econmy or anything else. It has been almost 4 whole years and I haven't heard what Obama is going to do.. he ran on the platform Change all that time but never said what that change involved. We know now and that was change the deficit over 6 trillion dollars. Change the size of the government by over a 1/3. Change all his unemployeed friends into Czars. Change the way the muslims can kill us without making them pay. Yeah, I finally figured out what his change was. Now, he said if he didn't make things better in 4 years to fire him. He made things worse so, why doesn't he want to be fire.. He needs another 4 years to do what? he still hasn't said how he plans on doing anything just move forward.. Forward means a lot of things to someone who has enlarged the government, spent 6 trillion dollars, passed laws that make his beloved poor pay for insurance they can't afford already, let gas rise almost $2 a gallon since taking office. He has done everything once already, what does he need another 4 years for? Can anyone please tell me what he will do to reverse any of it? Has he said what he is going to do? Oh I mean has the media said what he is going to do?
He was a rabble rouser then. He's a rabble rouser now... Big difference between him and Al Sharpton, is he's in better shape.
...and he thinks that comprises 47% of the electorate.
That's just stupid.
The vast majority of that 47% are the working poor and the elderly. The working poor, however, do pay payroll taxes which means they pay a higher percentage of their meager income in federal taxes than Romney paid on his millions.
BTW, the amount of your son's refund or payment is set in large part by the W4 form he filled out when he got the job - it doesn't necessarily reflect how much he paid, but how much he had his employer withhold.
Pizza Delivery guys usually get tips, unfortunately the get taxed on the tips (they don't get) based on a %rate. Being in the delivery end and in public you are expected to maintain a certain appearence standard. Hair Cuts, 4-5 pair of trousers, Buy a Pricy pair of shoes, a package of sox and underwear are all your expense. If you can make it add up to $1,200 or so you can get it back as a legal tax deduction. If you drive (example) 20 miles to get to work you can claim those mile as a tax deduction also but you must keep track of the miles seperately. Keep every stinking receipt and put them in order weekly! Hire an accountant to do your Taxes, Mine charges me $150 at Tax time and he is my First deduction every year. Your not going to get back all that you paid but you certainly can get a return check. The only reason people pay is they claim nothing.
Dick-bagby... Nowhere does Obama state that the prupose of the redistrubution was to lift any poor out of anywhere. he wanted to use Tax credits to help fund housing projects which is a nice way of saying slums and setting policy on them. Do you build slums to lift people out or keep them down where they need government help? Keep them thinking you are going to be making their lives better while you control how they live. That is where our country has been heading for 4 years that is why our credit rating has fallen to the ground. The USA has a credit rating on the same scale as Guatamala this year. Now will Romney win? I don't know but he might, he might not but I will tell you now.. Say what you want but if you vote for Obama remember, 4 years from now when the national deficit is at over 9 trillion.. Don't try to put them blame anywhere. I don't care who you are, take the blame you'll all deserve if you vote for him. But as liberals you'll all forget that you voted for the debt increase when the time comes and try to blame republicans. If Romney wins and he screws up in 4 years, I hope you all say he needs another 4 years to make it worse.. Your saying it now about Obama.
Redistribution is done everywhere every once in a while and it is usually done the keep body counts equal in districts for voteing purposes. People come and People go and districts size changes, the needs of districts changes to. It is also done so as to know how much each District needs finacially, some times they have to much and sometimes to little. They just did a redistribution where I live 5 years ago and they will probably do it again in another 5 years. Yes in some cases a District will grow or shrink due to business in the area and more housing is needed by ALL levels of income. From houses to apartments. If Obama was for redistribution than it was needed or that time again. This is all part of the job for people in that position. So tell me, Are you guys that dumb? Or trying to play me for a Chump? I'm not that dumb. Look up the word Redistribution.
I smell a "rat" here - a Willard Romney "rat" (Like the rat in the "Willard" movie).
The Repubs have had this all along, they have held this in reserve, and were probably planning to use this closer to election day (it might even be Beitbarts final "game-changer" he said he had before he died) but with the Romney campaign imploding they had to use it now. Unlike Romney's comments, though, where no one had to edit it to change the meaning, this 14 year old comment was taken out of context, just like the "built that" comment. Typical Republican half-truthing.
Mark my words, the Repubs probably have other "ammunition" about Obama like this. Smokes and mirrors and confusion. That's all they were good at in Congress these last six years and it seems that is all they are good at in running a Presidential campaign.
I have news for Mitt Romney, its not 47% of Americans that depend on government spending, its 100%. Just about every perons in this country in one form or another depends on government spending. Whether its the
defense industry, government workers, construction industry on government funded or financed projects, and countless other businesses and workers who benefit directly or indirectly from government work, or all of the workers of businesses that provide goods and services to those workers, just about every one of us is
on the take of government spending.
Add to the list seniors on medicare and social security, students with government loans, colleges with research grants, schools, government mortgage holders, veterans, hospital workers, and just about everyone else fortunate to live in this country.
Oh, did I forget those in the military who help make it possible to live free in our nation.
Time to see Romney's tax returns so we know the kind of benefits he's gotten.
Gee Mr. Michael O'Brien of NBC News, perhaps your "story" would be more creditable if you had include the "fodder" that team Obama is using concerning the edited version of Romney's talk concerning the 47% of population who take from society more than they put in. I think they call that "fair share."
Gunner,
Sorry champ, there isn't anything in the Romney video that contradicts what he was saying.....the Romney quote was not "inartfully stated" as they like to say....he said exactly what they think. The Obama quote talked about redistribution...but then talked about it within the context of the free market. As usual, to get their talking point, Romney/Ryan play only part of clip (brings back memories of the 'we didn't build that' nonsense).
Plus, again.....the Obama clip is 14 years old while Romney's is a few months. Give me a break.
To make matters worse for Romney, there is even more coming out from that video.....there is a snippet where Romney states he would "take advantage" of a foreign crisis if it arises (hence the statement about the comment from the embassy). That is unpatriotic and completely disqualifies Romney from being commander in chief.
In short, Romney is the scum of the earth.
Logic,
Sorry champ, the current mayor of Chicago (oh no, I must be a racist) said back in 2008 or 2009 "Never let a good crisis go to waste".
How would you know what is in the missing 1-2 minutes relating to the 47% comment?
How would you know what "hasn't been released yet"?
Perhaps you're an NBC hack or the felon that took the video?
Don't you feel dirty prostituting for Obama?
DoctorLogic ... my point is not about what Romney said or as to what it "really" means. It is that NBC seems to go to great lengths pointing out that Team Romney is using an edited version of Obama's interview but refuses to mention anything about Team Obama's use of an "edited" version of Romney's answer to a question in a private setting. I can only surmise that Mr. O'Brien issue is not that "edited speech" is being used for political gain ... it is that Team Romney is doing so.
Wow, what a shocking revelation! Romney/Ryan takes a clip of the President, play parts of it, and expect the American people to be stupid enough to buy it. What makes this so pathetic is that this clip is not even from this millennium for God's sake.
Throughout the entire campaign, Romney/Ryan have distorted and contorted and look where it has gotten them. Therefore, naturally, their prescription is to continue doing more of the same.
What I love is the fact that Romney/Ryan are doing such damage to the GOP brand and the GOP downticket.....now the talk is that it is very possible that they could lose the House in November...and this country will be all the better for it.
I bet you believed that the attacks on the embassies were based on some stupid movie clip.
Romney has shown the Party he can't handle it. Now the Republicans are coming back at what they do best They will show you or tell you something that there is truth in but stop at a point to where they can twist it into a lie to make it sound like something it isn't.
I guess we will go back to finding the truth ourselves and be called fact checkers and liars in the same breath by the 50% OF THE 47% of Romneys Minions.
Look sorry, as an inquisitive Aussie I read these blogs but I don't comment, usually. And i do understand if you feel offended that I have on a post of your upcoming election. However, what Obama is discussing in the video is not tax redistribution, what he's discussing is a version of providing basic community resources to non-government service providers, for example meals-on-wheels (do you have that there ?, church based care for the elderly?), with the government (I,m guessing state or local government) providing oversight. It's an approach using community networks and was, (and still is), popular in public policy. The individual that 'should be given a chance' in context is an individual (private) provider of a service. Sorry Vince, like the photo though.
@Tassie, no your not interupting. Redistribution goes on about every 10 years or so or when they feel that it's needed pretty much for the reasons you say. Sometimes a district will have a sudden rise in population and someone will ask for a Redistribution sooner. If they are not asking for one when it is badly needed than they aren't doing their job in my view. Most people don't realize one has happened even after it happened. Over hear the Republicans like to make a mountain out of a mole hill especially at election time. As for me I like to put them straight, it's fun watching them squirm.
I think it's interesting to look at these two competing clips of the candidates. The more of the Obama video (from 14 years ago) that is viewed, the less of an issue his use of the single word 'redistribution' becomes - it's clear he's not espousing some sort of socialist manifesto as some of his more rabid detractors would have us believe. But the more one watches of the Romney video (from last May), the clearer it becomes that he not only disdains those less fortunate than himself, but also that he doesn't even realize it.
I also think that what will make the most difference in the impact of these revelations about both candidates is the public's willingness to trust their intentions in each case.
And in that respect, Romney is the clear loser.
The clear losers are people like you who don't admit that he was talking about getting votes and not trashing 47% of the population.
No the clear losers are people who don't listen to what he said and what he says out in the public. Same thing. Nothing. He would not be running for president if his dad had not been wealthy. That is a fact and the only reason he is running. He has not even shown us he is capable of running a meeting or a business. In fact he hasn't shown us anything including proof of where he got his money. Did he? And he can't seem to say a paragraph without insulting someone. Can he? Why would anyone want that in the White House. And just look at the candidates the republicans put up for election. Dole, McCain, Romney, Ryan,. They are like Dukakis and Kerry and Gore. What is wrong with Condi Rice, Jeb Bush, Colin Powell? There are people there to run. They may not be as rich but as we have seen that is not even a consideration. In fact it may be a negative. Because people like Romney think you can run some ad and win an election. Besides with all that money wouldn't you think Romney could at least put some hair color on his white sideburns? At least he is not painting himself orange. I don't know about the botox. In the real world most of us don't do botox, paint themselves orange or have fake sideburns. Why do people think if you are running for president you have to do that. it just makes you look fake! Which I guess you are if you do that.
We all understand that. It was his characterization of 47% of the population as being unwilling to take personal responsibility for their lives that was the big issue.
It's astonishingly cynical, and condescending. I can't imagine why anyone would vote for someone to be president knowing they think of half the population as irresponsible parasites. Imagine how such a misguided perspective will inform his domestic policy decisions?
That's right he was talking about 47% of voters were Obama commited voters THAN HE SAID 50% of the population (That includes Republicans) are Welfare Riders so to speak. Go back and listen again. This time use a Q-tip first.
ktiln,
Romney gave away his inheritence.
Tim,
1. It's hard to dispute the fact that the democrats have been telling their base that they are victims. I saw that dating back thirty years already.
2. Almost half of workers do not pay federal income tax which, as Romney said in relation to the 47% which the left seems to leave out, means when he talks about tax cuts it means nothing because they already don't pay.
This is nothing more than a distraction from Obama's failures.
Actually, I was basing my statement on reading the full transcript of Romney's statement, but I don't see any reference to 50% of the population. Here is what he said (with or without Q-tips):
I'm sure you wish it was that simple.
Because 3 out of 5 of those who pay no federal income tax are working but don't make enough after deductions to owe any taxes on their wages. In fact, Romney himself doesn't pay federal income taxes on wages because his income is from investments. But, unlike Romney, the working poor pay payroll taxes in excess of 15% of their income, which is a higher percentage of their income than Romney pays on his millions.
But the really disgusting thing about his comments is that it clearly shows that not only does he seem to think that nearly half the country is dependent on the government because they pay no federal income tax, but they cannot be convinced to "take personal responsibility and care for their lives".
That comment is reprehensible.
NBC has become the media outlet for the Obama campaign. OMG, Romney used parts of the speech, but didn't play the entire thing.
Obama has distorted and LIED so many times about Romney, yet the media says nothing, or even worse, lies and distorts in support of Obama.
They both use these tactics, and they're not necessarily wrong. While Obama may have used other words, he did use "redistribution", which is a core component of socialism. DUH!
What has NBC lied about? What ex democrat presidential candidates do they have working for them. And what Obama advisors do they have working for them? Fox News is the Romney/republican campaign. And how in the world did we all hear all the bad stuff about Obama if it wasn't on the news? You guys just can't stand it when you people are repeated. And shown for what you really are. I was a republican for over 50 years. And boy am I now embarrassed. I used to want a network who only provided one side of the story. Now when I think that NBC is covering the other side a bit too much or saying something negative about Obama, I think good. We don't need another biased network that will do anything in their power to smear the other side. I was wrong. A network like that is not good for America especially when the owner was born in Australia and has Chinese children. We need networks that are fair and are balanced and not in name only. We need journalists or commentators who aren't just money making robots with the intent of changing elections based on false info. And for you righties who are always worrying because people aren't proud to be American, why don't you start acting in a manner that we can be proud of? Try it. YOu might even like it yourself!
Besides what would you like us to tell you about Obama? We had to hear it from somewhere since we don't listen to Fox Propaganda or whatever they are calling themselves these days. What you guys don't realize is that when they make up stuff naturally the other side is not going to repeat it. And what makes me mad is in incidents like recently they don't play the original tape with what is on it but they do play his explanation or rewrite of it as well as a lot of speeches. They take out the parts like responsiblity and hard work. So you guys will believe the worst. I try to watch Fox but I only go until I hear a lie or am insulted which is usually only seconds or minutes. Fox News should not call themselves news. It should be Fox republican opinions and that would be fine and dandy but when they pretend they have both sides and then say the other side is lying how can that be. Why would they even be worried about the other channel since they have all the info on their show already. Clue. They don't. They just want you to think they do. Why not try listening to both and see what happens. YOu will realize soon that someone is lying. When that happens listen to the ORIGINAL version. That will show you who and why someone is lying. Easy isn't it. Apparently not because it is done so little. I like Obama and I don't even mind when you guys win some argument. In a football game it would be very boring if the score was 100 to zero all the time. It is usually pretty close. Now I would say team Obama is about 200 and team Romney may be 10 or so. After a while you will be getting a sympathy vote if nothing else.
Look up the word Redistribution, never mind your a TROLL.
ktlin,
You use the work "we" a lot in your response.
So are you an NBC employee or an Obama Campaign employee?
Oh wait, there is no difference, so never mind :)
I think the problem most of us older people have is that the redistribution means communism and invokes fear. Period. And this is not news. Remember this is what got people mad about Joe the Plumber who wasn't Joe and wasn't a plumber. I think the intent of Obama is for people to work so they can havesome of the money instead of just the wealthy. Some just refuse to listen when Obama says with hard work and personal responsiblity you can succeed. They just refuse to let that go in between their ears. And as far as communism when they worry about Obama they have the real deal with Paul Ryan. He does not deny his economic policies are those of a russian athiest to this day. And then Romney recalls visiting factories with barbed wired around them in China so that it would keep people out. All this time Romney apparently thought the Iron curtain was to keep the rest of the world out. Well what I want him to tell us is why were the land mines on the other side of the fence instead of outside the fence and why did they not allow two people to work together very long. And all this time Romney was raking in his money. I do not see how these two can possibly be elected. Surely American citizens are not that brainwashed and dumb. Certainly something has to be get through to them. At the very least people should know when you have to lie continually there has to be a reason.
But then he talks of "leveling the playing field" and loses me. No one made the field level for me. It took hard work and long hours to start my own business. The sooner poeple figure out there is no such thing as "fair" in this world the sooner people will understand it all on you to determine if you succeed or fail.
True, success or failure in on the individual. "Leveling the playing field," is about getting things more even in other countries, China comes to mind, with import taxes on products and parts, especially complete parts like car fenders. China charges a high tariff on stuff we send there yet expect us not to tariff their items. Of course Big Business doesn't want to hear that, the ones outside this country, But I have a Tough Sh@@ attitude about that.
Ha ha!! Good ol' MSNBC, do everything you can to defend your man the Pres and do all you can to denegrate Romeny. You are a piece of work. The only reason I come here is to see what propaganda you've come up with next for your boy Obama. You are worthless as a news organization. Obama still talked about redistribution and this is the very concept that worries people, it is socialistic, he said the words and he meant them. Ha ha! Nice try MSNBC. The fact is your boy has lost 5 points to Romney since the DNC despite all your efforts!!
Of course 47% of America wants handouts....his words (Mitty)....Protect the rich - sounds more like Russia and Venezuela where the poor gets poorer (middle class Included) and the rich gets richer. News Flash unless you are some millionaire commentator that 47% includes you.
I made 40,000 and I paid federal income tax so NO! I'm not part of the 47%.
I AM THE 53%
Well, when you have an understanding of Redistribution and your neighborhood, needed red lights, street maintainance, etc and how you benifit from it, by all means come back and talk to me. Your children benifit from Redistribution and it is done by Republicans and Democrats that are doing the job we pay them to do.
elliot-3020456 - ARE YOU SERIOUS?????.....Ha! Ha! Ha!. Call it what it is. Willard is thowing in desperation anything that he can. Even his Repub constituents are voicing his disapproval......nice try......
He can! But he won't!
So If I've got this right, the Romney video released by Mother Jones doesn't include ALL of the footage and NBC "news" is silent on that.
BUT! The Obama video doesn't include all the footage and STOP THE PRESSES! Seriously you bunch of @!$%#ing lap dogs just stop trying to act like you're reporting objectively.
The entire Romney tape was released before the Obama part tape. You have got to be wearing Blinders if you can't see the partial tape of Obama is part of the Republican Refooling, excuse me, Retooling of Romney.
What!!!!! Seems that 2 minutes of the romney audio was clipped by, ta-da jimmy carter the 1111. Who's got blinders on? BTW, the LA times has been on lock down with an audio tape going back two years ago with obama and (?) They are not going to release it. Must be a doozie that obama's re-election could explode in his face. But if they had a tape on romney, that would be an exclusive for the paper to get it out.
And what of the film clip of Obama nodding in agreement when Rev Wright was screaming G-D d-m America? Or Michelle Obama hanging with the Black Panthers in her beret?
"redistribution" why are all you lefties in denial, this is exactly what you want. Obama said it 14 years ago and it is his plan today.
Obama's keep talking about helping the middle class, what a bunch a BS. His policies will crush the middle class. Anyone who votes for this moron will only have themselves to blame. Mark my word children.
All government is in the business of redistribution.
The problem the right is having is that they've identified the word as some sort of code that has all sorts of nefarious connotations.
Get over it.
At least he didn't indict half the population as being welfare queens.
Dan from the left: do read my posts very informative in content.
Tim, the redistribution from the government is what the republicans have been screaming about for years. Everything the government does costs more money than in the private sector and it is not the governments job to pick winners and losers.
That's not true. Medicare overhead is far less than that of any insurance company in the country, and on a much larger scale.
Wow...you mean MSNBC did some digging on an article. Oh wait..it helped Obama. God forbid they show how the democrats do the same thing.