Two polls out Wednesday show President Barack Obama on top of GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney in the swing state of Wisconsin.
Obama leads, 54 percent to 40 percent, in a Marquette University Law poll released Wednesday afternoon. The same poll found Obama with a narrower, 49 to 46 percent, lead over Romney before both party conventions, and shortly after the Republican candidate named Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan as his running mate.

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President Barack Obama greets guests during an event to honor the WNBA champion Minnesota Lynx , at the White House on September 18.
A separate poll of Wisconsin voters conducted by Quinnipiac University, the New York Times and CBS News also found Obama with an advantage in the Badger State. Obama led by six points, 51 to 45 percent, in that poll released this morning.
NBC News considers Wisconsin a "toss-up" state for purposes of its battleground map. NBC News will have the results of a third poll of Wisconsin, conducted in partnership with Marist College and the Wall Street Journal, on Thursday.
The Marquette poll was conducted Sept. 13-16 and has a 4.1 percent margin of error for its sample of likely voters. The Quinnipiac/NYT/CBS poll was conducted Sept. 11-17 and has a 2.5 percent margin of error.


I bet that right about now Paul Ryan is thinking that it's a good thing that he kept himself in the running for the congressional seat.
Why, would you vote for him? He is probably thinking Rubio would have been a better selection. He is slowly becoming a laughingstock. You can only have the national media call you a liar so many times before people start to notice.
4 more for 44
maybe if Ryan had 20/20 vision he would have declined being Willards VP as this has probably eliminated any chance of Ryan in 2016.... Glad he's blind :)
Yup. You right wingers can toss that toss-up state. Best focus on Colorado. Ryan might want to hang out there after losing the election. He can smoke doobies while living . . . .
IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!
Enjoy your one week suspension Feisty.
Obama supporters, Google Search "NDAA".
Paul Ryan is not shy to let us know that he is trying to run for SENATOR in Wisconsin.
He probaly fears that President Obama may win the elections.
IF YOU DON'T VOTE, YOU ARE GIVING YOUR VOTE TO THE REPUBLICANS.
REGISTER AND VOTE!!!!!
Here is Barack Obama's Main Accomplishments
Barack Obama's Main Accomplishment:
Signed the National Defence Authorization Act (NDAA) Bill into Law allowing any US citizen to Be Detained WITHOUT trial (A federal Court Blocked it in May because it Violates the Constitution, but Obama is not trying to get it UNBLOCKED!). (Source: rt(DOT)com/usa/news/obama-indefinite-detention-forrest-070/ )
He has Killed HUNDREDS of Innocent people (Including 3 American Citizens) in Pakistan and Yemen with Drone Strikes (He’s Ordered even more drone strikes than Bush!). (Source: www(DOT)slate(DOTcom/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2012/06/obama_drone_strikes_the_president_ordered_more_than_george_w_bush.html )
The rate of National Debt under George Bush was Around $60 Billion a Month. Under Obama, it’s been $190 Billion a Month, so that would be Nearly $600 Per US Citizen (Thanks Obama!). (Source: cnsnews(DOT)com/node/72404 and www(DOT)cbsnews(DOT)com/8301-503544_162-57400369-503544/national-debt-has-increased-more-under-obama-than-under-bush/ )
Obama Care: Page 22. MANDATES, The Government will Audit Book of ALL Employers who Self Insure. Page 50, Section 152, Health Care WILL be Provided to ALL Non US Citizens, Illegal or otherwise. Page 126, Lines 22-25, Employers Must Pay for Their Part time Employees Health Care AND Their Families. Page 127, Lines 1-16, The Government WILL Tell you How much Money you can Make.
Obama has By-passed Congress to Enable the DREAM Act (Unconstitutional to By-Pass Congress, and the Illegals he allowed to become Legal Citizens has Committed over 19 Murders and Over 142 Sex crimes). (Source: www(DOT)theblaze(DOT)com/stories/obama-orders-his-own-version-of-the-dream-act-video/ and www(DOT)westernjournalism(DOT)com/breaking-documents-show-obama-implemented-dream-act-despite-congress-rejection/ )
Obama Claims he Campaigned in 57 States (Maybe he wasn’t Born in this Country?). (Source: www(DOT)youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=OrsBKGpwi58 and latimesblogs(DOT)latimes(DOT)com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html )
Obama abused his powers and ATTACKED Libya without congressional Approval (Source: www(DOT)nytimes(DOT)com/2011/03/22/world/africa/22powers.html?_r=1
Now, if you still like him, you're either an Absolute IDIOT or a Communist.
Bet Ryan is wishing he could spend more time campaigning for his House seat. He may need it because even Wisconsin voters in his district are likely seeing what a liar he is. Nothing like having FOX News and dozens of other media outlets call his VP nomination acceptance speech an attempt to set a new record for lies in one speech. Guy couldn't even tell the truth about his marathon run time. It's also a new district so he may not be the shoe-in he was before.
I'd love to be able to pop the champagne and declare the GOP run for the presidency over, but the truth is there are still 49 days 'til the election. Lots could still happen between now and then. Flip side is, I don't think Romney can win any of the debates unless he comes out with more substantive policy for this country, and maybe not even then.
So, I'm cautiously hopeful for an Obama win, but with politics you never really know...
THE GOP still can win BY PREVENTING YOU TO VOTE IF YOU DON'T REGISTER AHEAD.
DON'T LET THE REPUBLICANS STEAL AGAIN THE PRSIDENTIAL NOMINATION, JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH AL GORE!!!!
REGISTER AND VOTE!!!!
Jimmy Carter was way ahead at this point too.
LOL, funny how Jimmy Carter name always comes up when talking about Obama-
Both had US Auto manufacturing issues, Obama bails out GM (your welcome UAW) while back in Carters time Lee Iococco fixed Chryslers problem.
Both had the worst consumer confidence in 20 years
Both had attacks on American Embassy's
Both had banks with money that would not lend
This list is endless and down right scary!
A little girl asks her dad here dad how people choose their leaders. Her dad says: People must vote for the person they want to become president. The little girl says: What if more dumber people vote? Her dad says: Then the Democrats win.
Now, if you still like him, you're either an Absolute IDIOT or a Communist.
Or option C, you are a rational, educated person who thinks that a handful of exaggerations and conspiracy theories can't tarnish the legacy of the man who lifted us out of recession.
Really, folks, at this point I feel very sorry for poor Mitt, he is a human being after all. He gained some of my respect back in the primaries when he said: "[The Right Base won't support me] because I can't say crazy things". Say all you want about Mr. Etch-a-Sketch, but he did have some "red line" in his head that he wouldn't cross.
Fast-forward to about a week ago, the Libya thing. He did cross that line. What happened between then and before then, the primaries? Oh, he got to draw from the "general election" pool, that was not available to him before. That means, more pressure from the Bat-Sh*t Crazies with all the money who DO want their candidate to say [Bat-Sh*t]"crazy things"! I am thinking he was forced to do it, or, more "elegantly", he was "made an offer he could not resist".
Which makes me think that poor Mitt must've thought already about getting out of this Bat-Sh*t Crazy Race, and he may have even tried, but imagine the Bat-SH*t Crazy Republican Supporters who are H*ll-Bent on getting the Black Man out of the White House: they'd be going: "Uh-uh, Mittney, honey, you can't bail on us now. Yeah, we know you are a pathetic misfit, but it's too late in the game now, can't change our horses. And - that little "red line" in your head? You better cross it now and start saying Bat-Sh*t Crazy Sh*t, or you gonna have a lot of p*ssed off billionaires and their p*ssed off Hillbilly Army come looking for ya, Rep Gabby Gifford Style, if ya know what I mean".
... My husband and I were pondering last night if Mitt is making his preparations for his self-imposed "Mitness Protection Program", like skipping to the Cayman Islands to re-unite withe his money or something. He's certainly a "marked man" here in the US now, poor guy.
Peace, ANV
Let's define idiot - F6Z that likes faux talking points from a non-existent book he pretends to have read named something like Dreams of my other brothers fathers.
Oh, and to F6Z talking points - here is just one debunk.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/kithil.asp
@Massachusettz Really? Conspiracy Theories? I gave you sources for what I said, and you can Google search them and find them almost anywhere on the internet.
Vote for ANYONE besides the Democrats, replace the Democrats with third-Parties.
I've never seen anyone with an IQ higher than 125 vote for a Democrat. That should tell you something.
Ahhh this is good news!!!
Fox News and Rush Limbaugh are the only ones mentioning Jimmy Carter. Plus, they keep getting the facts wrong. Carter was not ahead of Reagan at this point. He was never more than 3 points ahead in the entire election. It was neck and neck until the only debate just before the election.
Other differences: Carter did not run unopposed for the Democratic nomination as Obama did. He had at least two strong Democrats running against him in the primary, which he barely won. Carter had under 30% approval. Obama's approval is hovering close to 50%.
Fox News viewers are welcome to cling to their version of history if it makes them feel better. The problem is, if they pretend that everything is just fine, they won't make any effort to right the Romney ship before it sinks. I have an IQ of 136 and I voted for Obama. I am planning to vote for him again. I have never received SNAP, unemployment or welfare.
Politifact looked at Romney's statement that voters who support Obama are "people who pay no income tax." Not surprisingly, it was rated false. He offended many of his own supporters (or maybe former supporters):
Romney said that the "48, 49 percent" that supports President Barack Obama are "people who pay no income tax."
But the polls and income tax data don't back this up. Obama gets substantial support from people earning more than $50,000 -- and 90 percent of them, or more, do pay taxes. And Romney gets lots of support from seniors, many of whom have no income tax liability. We rate the claim False.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/sep/18/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-voters-who-support-barack-obama-a/
I've never seen anyone with an IQ higher than 125 vote for a Democrat. That should tell you something.
What does it tell you that the states that house Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Columbia, UofChicago, Stanford etc all vote Blue, and the states that house colleges with more emphasis on football than academics vote Red?
As usual Sirie - you are lying and have proven once again, your posts are completely invalid. But then, I don't mind reminding everyone here that it is what you do best.
Best candidates in order: Gary Johnson, Ron Paul, Vigil Goode, Jill Stein, Mitt Romney, Adolf Hitler, Barack Obama.
Polls are a funny thing, you usually can get whatever numbers you want to get, decidedly.
F6Zman you are an embarrassment to America to prefer Hitler to Obama. A through and through embarrassment.
@Massachusettz Not much, thanks to the Democrats and Corrupt republicans (Like the Bushes) our education system in America is horrible.
DEMS VOTE!
@Massachusettz At least Hitler did some good for his Country, Unlike Obama.
Polls are a funny thing, you usually can get whatever numbers you want to get, decidedly.
Skepticism is a funny thing too, it only really surfaces when the facts contradict your cause.
link - http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/25/business/banks-flooded-with-cash-they-cant-profitably-use.html?pagewanted=all
There you go RedDV! you're welcome!
Anything else you would like to contradict RedDev?
@RedDevPS Really? Non existent? IT'S EVEN ON WIKIPEDIA! Are you Obama supporters so retarded you can't even move your mouse to the google search Bar and type "Dreams from my real father"?
No, he wasn't. By mid September, Carter and Reagan were in a dead heat tie.
http://books.google.com/books?id=naQJQVEwUCsC&pg=PA163&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false
Gee Sirie - what does this article have to do with the price of tea in China, or better yet, your claim that money was/is tight under Obama/Carter? Nada, nothing, zip, zilch, zero. Capiche. Again, your posts are full of crap.
So F6Z - you are claiming you read the book Dreams of My Real Father on Wikipedia? Ever use Wikipedia? Do you know what it is? Maybe you should try the line that you read Dreams Of My Real Father on your Kindle - and you downloaded it from 'the Cloud'. We at least know Kindles and Clouds exist. You are so full of crap, I'm surprised your address isn't Rural Route Outhouse.
Clotho: the Republican party does not want people who think to vote. They know, from experience, that once people think, there is nothing the GOP can say which will convince an intelligent person to vote for the GOP. That is part of the reason behind there two part strategy: part one, prevent college students from voting and part two, cut funding for poor students to get grants and middle class students from getting student loans. If there are no poor and middle class college students, there won't be anyone going to college except the children of the wealthy, who are all the GOP support.
RedDev - ?? Are you serious?? Dig youi bump your head on the way down your mom's basement steps?
This is utter BS.....just like the Walker poll MSNBC touted....him losing handily.
I work in Wisconsin & drive here from Illinois (since the dems have that state's economy screwed)
Everyone I know up here is voting for Romney......and the yard signs I see all over the place verify it.
A little girl asks her dad how people choose their leaders. Her dad says: People must vote for the person they want to become president. The little girl says: What if more dumber people vote? Her dad says: Then the Republicans win.
As Romney supporters try to push away the free fall they are currently feeling because of Mitt's incompetence they increasingly bring up Carter hoping that will save them. But they forget that in 1980 there was a 3rd party candidate John Anderson that pulled away lots of votes from Carter and that the 1980 election is nothing like 2012... If anything Libertarian Gary Johnson will pull votes away from Romney... This election will be more like the 1996 Clinton-Dole election if anything. With the incumbent Democrat winning again!
God save us in Wisconsin from Mitt and the 1% who want to buy our government! if they haven't all ready!
Save us from Mitt Romney and the republicans in Wisconsin and the buying of America by the corporate and big business interests. If they haven't done so already?
God save us from Mitt Romney and the republicans in Wisconsin and the buying of America by the corporate and big business interests. If they haven't done so already?
Marquette University is where Scott Walker went to college before he allegedly got kicked out for cheating, which pretty much describes the rest of his political career.
The point being that this poll is generally biased Republican. I wonder if the goal is to suppress Democratic vote -- Obama's got it in the bag, so why go to the polls?
I think there was a little of that strategy employed in the recall election as well, as turnout in Milwaukee and Dane Counties never quite matched what all the pundits were predicting.
So no dancing in the streets yet.
F6Zman
Yes, it tells us that you do not associate with any intelligent people, and none of us is surprised !
Romeny votes please google WHEN ROMNEY CAME TO TOWN
Thumbs up. This is far from over and let's not take anything for granted. Vote like your life depends on it as it very well may.
I don't know which part of this comment is more despicable, but I do know which is more revealing.
Seriously. Hitler would be SO proud to know you supported him.
F6Zman sounds like he has a man-crush on Hitler. I'm not surprised.
sounds appropriate to what has happened to Mittenman's campaign
And then he won the election and became the President.
If I was a Right-winger, I would be focusing on winning Texas.
"Jimmy Carter was way ahead at this point too."
You Republicans are grabbing at straws when you compare this election to the Carter/Reagan election of 1980. Carter was running against a REAL candidate with REAL ideas. Carter was running against a person who knew what he believed in. Carter was running against a man with character. Romney is NONE of this. Romney has no core, no spine, and no character. He’s for and against then for then against everything. He has no ideas, no solutions, and no answers. He has no base beliefs. Reagan was REAL. Romney is a fraud. Plus – he’s running one of the very worst campaigns of all times.
Right, those bombing raids over Berlin really changed the landscape there.
Just remember folks; the only poll that counts is the one they take on the first Tuesday in November.
Obama had a lead of almost ten (10) points after the conventions, and now he's leading Romney by just five (5) points nationally.
...and that with all the hoopla over Romney's fundraising comments.
This thing is, and is going to be a lot closer than a good many of you think, and in the end, Romney could (...and just might) win.
DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!
Obama had a lead of almost ten (10) points after the conventions, and now he's leading Romney by just five (5) points nationally.
10 points after the convention?? Said WHO?? You cons live in a fantasy land.
It's called believing a repetitive lie. Another old Nazi trick.
How could a party like the GOP stand by for eight years and watch a Jacka$$ like "W" destroy this Nation, this is beyond insanity. Now they are standing behind a flag burning yellow belly draft dodging warmonger coward and a pathological liar, some call this 1% money pimp Mitt RobMeHood, America deserves better, this guy is a Clown !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
irespond: Which count or recount did Gore win? Didn't think so.
You'd think that with ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, etc. all making up news and proclaiming the election all but over, that Obama and all the dems would be leading by double digits. But, fortunately the reality is that most people know that all Obama and the dems have done is drive the country further into the ground. Not one lib can stand up and say what a great job Obama and the dems have been doing. The only thing they do is what Allinsky advocated doing and that is ridiculing and calling the opposition names and avoid answering the real questions. How 8.1% unemployment (after writing off all the people who stopped looking for jobs because they can't find one) is better than the 7.6% that Obama inherited remains a mystery. How never being below 8% unemployment with all the fudgeting of the figures is a mystery.
flag burning? that would be Obama's pal Bill Ayers..../draft dodger? Clinton.../Warmonger? Wait, if one was a warmonger, would they want to dodge the draft? Pathological liar? 'I will close Guantanomo in my first year', 'I Will Cut the Deficit in Half by the end of my first term', 'If we can't turn this around, it'll be a 1 term proposition', 'We shouldn't mandate the purchase of health care', 'The Health Care Act is not a tax', 'I believe marriage is between one man and one woman','When a bill lands on my desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it', 'I didn't know Rev. Wright was radical', 'Bill Ayers was just a guy in my neighborhood'.....any of those sound familiar? Oh wait, it was President Hollywood!!! .....~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention!~
"W" was a "Interloper" !!!!!!!!!!!
are these the same pools that predicted Walker wouldn't be re-elected?
September 19th, 2012 by Dean Chambers
I'm against the government spending the wealth of the country on these stupid wars and bailing out the damn thieving banks. I'm against the folks who want to put nude scanners in the airports and trains and buses, and who think it's okay to murder Americans or throw them in prison forever without a trial. I'm against the people who want to make Americans slaves in their own country. And that means I'm against BOTH Obama and Romney. Vote for one of those traitors, and you're doing something worse than wasting a vote -- you're selling out your country.
uh.... you do know that anyone can edit Wikipedia..... don't you? Even you can edit Wiki.
wi·ki/ A Web site developed collaboratively by a community of users, allowing any user to add and edit content.
What was your previous comment about others' IQs?
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Anna Molly - I agree with you that I am very skeptical about polls. What the Dems/Libs/Progressives and any independents and Republicans for Obama should do IS NOT BE COMPLACENT. IT IS IMPERATIVE EVERYONE SHOULD MAKE THEIR VOTE COUNT. WHY?? BECAUSE THE Greedy Obstructionist Party of NO under Rove and their teabag lackeys am sure are plotting and planning to steal this election. GOOGLE True The Vote - the radical rightwing that are set to be poll watchers or better yet poll intimidators.
And why is MSNBC NOT putting this in the NEWS? JUST TODAY the GOP ONCE AGAIN BRAZENLY BLOCK ANOTHER BILL. This time it's the Veteran Jobs Bill! One more reason everyone should vote all their Repug representatives OUT OF OFFICE. This is beyond hypocrisy!! Claim you love your country and send our young men and women to war where they could lose their life or be all mangled up??! And not support them to get jobs when they return?! These Rethug politicians are callous and heartless. This is the reason you all should vote Democrat. Vote early. Vote by mail, just vote.
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/g-o-p-blocks-veteran-jobs-bill/
http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/09/19/13966931-senate-republicans-kill-veterans-jobs-bill?lite
Of course. Romney can't really be losing this horse race because he's an idiot, can he? There has to be a conspiracy of lies and subterfuge being used against him. He can't really be as stupid as the media makes him look, can he? Can he???
"We use Ann sparingly right now so people don't get tired of her." —Mitt Romney, referring to his wife while speaking to a room of wealthy donors in Florida, May 17, 2012
"When you give a speech you don't go through a laundry list. You talk about the things you think are important." —Mitt Romney, when asked about failing to mention the troops in his nomination speech at the Republican National Convention, Fox News interview, Sept. 7, 2012
2008 turnout 39% Democrats, 33% Republicans, and 29% Independent.
Obama wins 56-42 over McCain
Marquette University Poll Obama 50 Romney 46 - Used 34% Dem, 26% Rep, 38% Ind
CBS.NYT/Quinnipiac Poll Obama 54 Romney 40 - Used 35% Dem, 27% Rep, 32% Ind
Rasmussen polled there last month and uses the 2008 Partisan mix. Romney was ahead 48%-47%. Public Policy polling agreed 4 days later. If Obama is ahead, it is only by a couple of points - Big Deal, he is leading by less than the 2008 democrat registration advantage.
Jimmy the peanut brain...makes BOZOhussen look good!! How is that Arabspring thing working for ya??!!! HE gave away IRAN, The PANAMA CANAL and let CASTRO empty CUBA’s prisons into the USA.. The MARIEL boat-lift—that was were “SCARFACE” starts.
..He couldn’t even get the lie straight about his employment…claimed he was a Rocket Scientist and a Farmer… NEITHER one is correct. He had a peanut warehouse.
Do NOT forget GAS RATIONING, long lines, gas prices went up 300%,..
INTEREST rate was 22%,….. if you had gas you could only drive 55 mph ( GO SAMMY HAGER)!!!! The summer was HOT..you could NOT set your AC to cool!!
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WORST INFLATION since FDR and the GREAT DEPRESSION!!
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HE started the flow of AMERICAN jobs to CHINA!!
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Created the DEPT. of Education.. shifting control of our children’s teaching to the AFL-CIO!! Very much like a HITLER YOUTH ED PROGRAM!!
PARENTS do NOT count, “ IT takes a village’..of idiots!!
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Formed the Dept. of ENERGY.. to make USA “FREE OF FOREIGN OIL”..
That has been a great success and use of TAX DOLLARS!! NOT!!!
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CARTER DOCTRINE to keep the USA TAXES and MILITARY supporting the
OIL CARTEL of the PERSIAN GULF!!
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Was ON WATCH when ‘ 3 MILE ISLAND’ in PA . nuclear MELTDOWN happened!!
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Kept AMERICAN youth from OLYMPIC gold and dreams!! 1980
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Made sure that our young men could DIE in NON- SUPPORTED WARS—the DRAFT!!!
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WANTED to give away the USA nuclear MILITARY superiority to the SOVIETS
At the same time they INVADED AFGANISTAN—SALT II,
Sounds familiar, doesn’t it??!!
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FEMA was a CARTER prez mandate # 32 in 1979. Do NOT forget the UNCONSTITUTIONAL seizure of law abiding citizens’ guns during KATRINA.
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Is it any wonder the REAGAN gave him such a good old southern style AZKICKEN !!
You Rasmussen fans should get out more. Five Thirty Eight projects a 305.4 - 232.6 electoral college Obama win on Nov. 6.
Obama's Lead Looks Stronger in Polls That Include Cellphones
By NATE SILVER September 19, 2012, 5:24 pm
As I http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/sept-18-obamas-bounce-erodes-in-two-tracking-polls/%E2%80%9D">observed on Tuesday, and as The New Republic's Nate Cohn http://www.tnr.com/blog/electionate/107446/obama-pulling-ahead-in-live-interview-surveys%E2%80%9D">also found, Barack Obama seems to have received a much clearer bounce in some types of polls than others.
Although there are exceptions on either side, like the Gallup national tracking poll, for the most part Mr. Obama seems to be getting stronger results in polls that use live interviewers and that include cellphones in their samples — enough to suggest that he has a clear advantage in the race.
In the polls that use an automated dialing method ("robopolls") or which exclude cellphones, Mr. Obama's bounce has been much harder to discern, and the race looks considerably closer.
The difference seems especially pronounced at the state level. Mr. Obama got very strong results in a series of NBC News/Marist College polls last week in Ohio, Florida and Virginia, which included cellphones and used live interviewers. Likewise, Tuesday morning's series of http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/sept-18-obamas-bounce-erodes-in-two-tracking-polls/%E2%80%9D">New York Times / CBS News / Quinnipiac polls had reasonably good news for Mr. Obama in Virginia and Wisconsin.
By contrast, the automated polling firm Rasmussen Reports has recently released polls showing Mr. Obama two points behind Mitt Romney in New Hampshire and three points behind in Colorado — the worst results that it has shown for him in those states all year. Another automated polling firm, Gravis Marketing, recently put Mr. Obama at a five-point deficit in Virginia, in contrast to three traditional polls that put him ahead by margins ranging from four to eight points there. A third automated polling firm, Public Policy Polling, has shown stronger results for Mr. Obama, but they also had him with good results before the conventions, and so haven't shown him gaining much ground.
These results are consistent with some past research. Read more…
Rasmussen & Gallup use what the voter mix in registration. These are based on history, current registrations, and trends observed. We know from a number of sources, that in the swing states the Democrat registrations are greatly down, Republican Registrations are down slightly (1/10th those of democrats) and that independent registrations are up to the tune of about half what the democrats and Republicans have lost.
Why then are many of these polling companies using sampling that shows the democrats as more than ever and the Republicans down much more that the democrats?
The only real answer is that's because these manipulations they are doing are to create a certain result.
Here is a NY Times report on the unreliability of Rasmussen in the 2008 elections. Rasmussen does not try to be unbiased nor does it make an effort to hide its bias:
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/rasmussen-polls-were-biased-and-inaccurate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/
F6Z,
You want to know what Obama's real accomplishments are:
Kept Promises: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-kept/
Compromised Promises: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/compromise/
That second one is more than Republicans in the House and Senate can ever say.
Here is what you can ding him on:
Broken Promises: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/
I do not like the fact that he passed the Patriot Act nor the NDAA but listen, be fking real about it. You have to be a moron nor to realize that nearly all of Congress voted for both of these bills. That is way more than enough to override a Presidential veto. And let's be honest even further, if he had vetoed the NDAA and the PA people on the Right would have attacked him for weakening the country against terrorism.
DB,
are you saying Independents never vote Democrat?
All these rightwingnuts bringing up Jimmy Carter is odd considering they didn't even mention their last president at their convention and blast anyone who utters the "B" word.
Now, I know teabaggers want to bring the country back a few decades, but really, do they know Carter is not president now?
Let's say you're walking along, and someone comes up and stabs you in the leg. They stand there watching the blood gush out for a bit, until someone else comes along. The new person bandages you up as best they can (which takes a few minutes), but can't magically heal you, and the bleeding doesn't completely stop right away. It does eventually stop, and your body starts replenishing your blood supply. It would replenish faster, but unfortunately there's a bit of a food shortage and you can't quite get all the nutrients you need.
Now, at what point were you better off? When the first guy was there and you were actively gushing blood? Or now, when you don't have quite as much blood built back up as when the first guy ran off, but you're slowly healing?
Wisconsin Will Support Obama and Should Reject Ryan as just another GOP phony...
from NPR August 16, 2012
Romney no longer leads in even a single poll:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
And for those of you chanting "Obama is Carter", let me remind you that the ONLY way Reagan won that election was by stealig Carter's debate prep book and using it to cheat in their single debate - held one week before the election.
Don't you remember?
There's no way in hell Reagan could ever have pulled off that performance without knowing what Carter would say in advance. But Carter made a mistake in scheduling only one debate, held a week before the election.
And the rest is history.
To Republicans:
Sheldon Adelson ($36.5 million and counting) and the Koch brothers (multiple hundreds of millions and counting) are investing in this election. BIG TIME.
Don't you wonder what they expect their return to be?
Did you like the Citizens United ruling? Because it looks to me as though they're trying to buy a couple of more Supreme Court seats.
So when Rush takes a crap you rush over with a spoon to eat don't you?
Reality of course doesn't always play the same and when some a$$hole tells you a lie.
Here. Take a peak at reality.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/154559/US-Presidential-Election-Center.aspx?ref=interactive
Yep, that's right. At this point in time Carter and Reagan were in a statistical dead heat. Much more than Romney. And worse is now what's shown by the data. Carter had more problems to deal with. Romney is his problem.
God I get sick of morons having to lie to keep Mitt looking viable.
Only morons use straw man enlargements.
How ironic that Obama may get the benefits associated with the Walker Policies in WI. In a poll asking WI. residence if they are better off today than 1 year ago, more people answered in the affirmative. This is a direct result of Governor Walker and the policies implemented in the past 2 years under his and the republican leadership which has put the state on solid financial footing, with no talk or need to increase taxes. The business climate is also improving here. Unfortunately, the latest polling seems to indicate that people failed to associate their improved outlook on conservative policies at the state level as apposed to Obama's policies that have failed miserably across the nation. I'm still optimistic that Romney will carry WI. in November however it will be a hard uphill fight with virtually the entire national media glossing over Obamas major blunders, all the while stories about Romney are overblown to the point of a shameless smear campaign.
With Mitt stuffing both feet in his own mouth at every opportunity, what major news organization has time to talk to President Obama at all?
Honestly, stop whining because your candidate is swirling the drain. He is all you deserve because he is the best your party can offer. Enjoy the election: I know I will!
Does this mean that Romney is going to lose both his home state and his VP's home state? Astounding.
If we can get all the Dems out to vote on election day, Romney/Ryan will get beat like a Drum. Romney is going to make McCain look like he won. Obama is going to beat him so bad.
It depends on which home state you are talking about. Romney claims New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan and maybe even Mexico as his home state.
Michigan yeah right. Let us not forget he is the one voting for bankrupcty and no auto nation bailout. I guess a couple more million people unemployed though would not matter right?
Starderup,
You left out Utah, his spiritual and for a time actual home. He will win there. He will probably lose in all the other "home" states, which also include California, home of his cars and car elevator.
He left Michigan 45 years ago. We don't claim him even if he thinks the trees are the right height. You will see on Nov. 6 that this is state is solid blue for Obama.
SteveR - I think that is a correct statement. I've known since late July that Mitt would not carry MA and all the polls and the people I know in WI don't think paulie helped his cause much in WI - I think this might be a first for a candidate to lose his home state and that of his running mate! Yippes, that's gotta be a big, big ouchie for the right wingers. Don't blame me, I've never crossed over in a primary in my adult life (even though we could do it in Tennessee and the republicans do it to us all the time).
Don't forget the Caymen Islands- doesn't that saying go 'home is where your money is'?
Tony, I agree. His dad was a good governor and did a good job of consolidating the new American Motors. But Mitt! Mitt was born in Michigan but he isn't of Michigan. He doesn't know what it is like to work 12 hours over molten iron, breathing in soot, and making the cars. He doesn't have a clue what it is like to see your city decline around you and worry that you are sending your children to sub-par schools because the tax base has left and the schools have no money. He doesn't know what it was like to be laid off time and time again in the one industry Michiganders really know...
Growing up in the shadow of the Turnstead plant in Flint, and starting my career at Chevrolet's Nodular Iron foundry in Saginaw, I saw this and more.
I love the bumper sticker: Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive!
And, I have the President to thank for that. Not some, former, native son.
I am tempted to conflate Mitt-Romney-Style the number of Wisconsinites who reaffirmed their Gov. Scott Walker last June and blew up the recall, with the number of Wisconsinites who would vote for Obama today: I am seeing the same percentages: 53% for Walker, 53% for Obama. Umm, what the heck could this mean? Either Wisconsinites are totally oblivious to what's happening around them, or are *true* "Honey-" Badger State kinda people?
Wisconsinites, please explain yourselves!
I think the house with the elevators for the cars is in California. Romney will lose that one, too.
"Obama is dead, GM is ALIVE" -- apparantly those Al Queda guys don't like that saying too much, from what I hear!
And GM is back in trouble again.. go figure!
http://www.thepassinglane.ca/2012/08/why-is-gm-in-trouble-again-just-consider-the-2013-malibu.html
"Osama is dead, GM is ALIVE"
that must have been a freudian slip!
The only thing the GOP can come up with to represent them is: 2 egotistical, arrogant, ignorant, self-serving, flaming liars, thieves, born with a gold and silver spoon in their big trap mouths, have no realistic understanding of what is going on in life or what it is like, shoot first and aim later, guaranteed to insult foreign countries, off-shore accounts to avoid paying their taxes, etc., etc. It's amazing that any state would want this type of thugs for a House or Senate position. I guess the Republicans in their respective states in order to belong to the GOP must have to sign a document declaring that they have not read or seen any documentaries or National News for the past 10 years.
Also, add to those 2 characteristic list: clueless losers, buffoonish clowns, minute by minute manipulators, and flip-floppers. But they are good for late night comedy shows. The U.S. doesn't need such low standards for a Pres. and V.P. There are far better people out there, who are capable of leading all of our Country, and not just the 53% or more accurately the 2% elite.
Don't hold back Independant Thinker, tell us how you feel!
Pretty much sums up all politicians if you ask me...
The GOP said they will give a apology for Romney's Stupidity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Patriotic but lying, uneducated American U.S.A....they said no such thing, and if they did, they would have said AN apology. I love catching mistakes when someone tries to criticize another person.
Could it be? Not only is Romney going to fail to take the state in which he was governor but now Ryan is going to lose the state in which he was congressman? How could this get any worse for the Republo-nazis' favorite losers?? Oh yeah...the debates are coming up, aren't they?
President Obama by default in November! There doesn't seem to by anyone running against him!
Hey Sal, big deal, you are a big time smarty, go sleep it off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Sailcat, Romney says Voter ID law is how he will win !!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Pat, fortunately the courts take a dim view of Romney's failed resurrection of Jim Crow. He's toast now.
Mass - F6ZMan doesn't KNOW anyone with an IQ higher than 75 so of course he doesn't know any smart Democrats. He only hangs with the low information voters who are Republicans! (F6Z wants us to believe he knows people's IQ's - yeah, sure he does
More Democrats have advanced degrees than Republicans. Plus, Democrats and a lot of Independents are WAY too smart to vote for Romney - so that says it all.
Obama/Biden 2012
A long-awaited report on the U.S. government’s controversial gun-trafficking operation known as “Fast and Furious” released Wednesday found no evidence that Attorney General Eric Holder knew of the botched effort to trace the flow of guns to Mexico’s drug cartels prior to its public unraveling in January 2011.
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/19/13966068-investigation-finds-no-evidence-ag-eric-holder-knew-of-fast-and-furious-gun-running-sting?lite
Shocker!
lolololololololololol Really? I did not read that in the article lololololol
And that has to do with the topic?
Its breaking news, capiche?
Yeah me too, thetotas.
Who could have ever ... ever .... imagined Holder's Justice Department would clear Holder.
Simply amazing how that worked out, huh?
I had my employees investigate what I'm doing right now. They concluded that I am not writing this.
bob, you sound angry. Maybe you need to move away to a place with less government. I hear Somalia is real nice. Might be a good place for all of you "survival of the fittest" types.
tony, evolution is just a theory, remember? just like gravity (as my keyboard floats into space).
First off scientific theories are often misconstrued as just 'theory' when they have quite a bit of supporting fact.
Second, gravity isn't a theory, there are scientific laws regarding gravity.
As Bugs Bunny used to say as he waived to Elmer Fudd dropping from the side of a cliff, "I don't worry about the law of gravity, I ain't ever studied law."
Let the lawyer jokes begin :)
well, thank goodness for that. The thing about gravity that I like is that it keeps us planted.
There is an old saying about lawyers. And that is "you hate them until you need one."
two DOJ officials have resigned. He knew as did Obama..it will all come out. there is absolutely no leadership in the white house.
Talking about Polls and which ones to trust. Read below.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2929256/posts
If you link to the site you will also see a list from 1 to 23 of best to worst Pollers.
It is no wonder that number 16 is NBC/WSJ. ABC and CBS follow after 16. Wow Fox is 13 place
Number 1
1T. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**
1T. Pew (10/29-11/1)**
You lefties keep relying on NBC and you will have a rude awakening.
the real poll will come in November!
GOP thinks Romney is a false dream !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For those of us who do watch the polls, we generally look at serveral or as many that are availible. And we always keep in mind the error factor which is generally plus or minus 3 to 4%. You look for trends not what it is on a specific date. And of course we all know that what is true today could change tommorrow. Its that the trend has certainly favored Obama since the conventions and there appears to be nothing in the news so far which will reverse that trend.
I think you mean those NBC and that far left wing WALL STREET JOURNAL polls right?
I grew up in Wisconsin but haven't lived there in 12 years, but I can tell you that people there are too simple and too smart to not have been completely offended by his latest attack on the common people. Good for you Wisco!
Mr young I live in MI and we were to smart to fall for Romney too. I only wish we would not have elected a Rep governor. But I will say this, Snider didn't drink the Scott Walker kool aid. I don't think he sold out to the Koch Brothers.
50% of Americans got thrown under the bus, and the Republicans just dump all of us together into a ball of useless garbage that does not pay taxes, lazy, and whiny.
I am not sure about you, but I have worked all my life since I am 16 years old. I am SERIOUSLY OFFENDED BY HIS COMMENTS. IF ANYONE HAS A SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT is the Romney's that think that they worked hard. In reality he inherited his wealth from his father to begin with, and then he swindle from the MIDDLE CLASS.
chuck - Snyder hasn't done squat except repeal the motorcycle helmet law and lift the ban on the sale of formerly illegal fireworks. If it weren't for Obama stepping in to help GM and Chrysler, this state would be in deep do do. But hey, the people wanted less government and they're getting it. The "tough nerd" is a one termer.
tonybeeerm
What is it with the right-wing and fireworks? Legalizing their sale is also our Tea Party governor's greatest accomplishment, so far. That and making it legal for health insurance companies to charge higher premiums for rural seniors in our state.
Obamacare that stop the insurance companies from charge higher premiums for seniors and not the tea bagger.
Blowing things up is a big deal in their world, I guess.
You can take WI off the "tossup state" list.
That one is over....Obama.
Dream on! Stick your head back in the sand!
President Obama is leading in every swing state except North Carolina. If this continues he will end with 330 votes in the electoral college. With the economy in the shape it's in he should be way behind. What this election shows is the total disconnect of Romney specifically and the Republican Party in general has from the american people.
What this election shows is the total disconnect of Romney specifically and the Republican Party in general has from the american people.
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This election shows that no matter how many advantages you start out with it is still possible to snatch
Defeat from the Jaws of Victory...
The challenger is running a campaign for the ages...
"The challenger is running a campaign for the ages..."
Yeah - the Dark Ages, that is. Or as Wiki calls it, "a period of intellectual darkness and economic regression".
What this election shows is that there is still a segment of the population who don't think or research for themselves, and who blindly follow the talking points of the people over at MSNB SeeChrisMatthewsSwoon. Read some newspapers from out of the country, articles by people who don't have their heads jammed firmly up Obama's azz. Go to factcheck and politifact and you'll see that over half of what you're hearing and spreading is false...~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~
Poor Mittless. :D
TO: Jeff-1592116 who wrote:
Mitt Robme has no idea of what the definition of "Poor" is, but I'm sure that even in sympathy for Robme's pathetic situtation, he'd still take exception to be referred to as "Poor".
Obama/Biden 2012
American Girl It has been awhile since I read of you. I always appreciate you posts since you are a woman who thinks for herself.
This is great news, but now we will see even more super pac money and a More anti-Obama ads.
Hummbird........it is great news, fortunately I think they'll just waste their money as most have decided and after a while, the ads don't work. You may see the money being spent on House and Senate races instead and really the only winners are the media outlets.
Are there any polls on how Mr. Marvelous is doing in his race to retain his congressional seat?...Guess plan B?
Pew just came out with their national poll of likely voters and have Obama up 8 points 51-43. The wheels are coming off the GOP.
There's an old saying - You made your bed; now you have to lie in it.
(No, that wasn't referencing Ryan. At least on purpose.)
Would that GOPTP bed me populated with outsourced Russian hookers or good old fashioned American prostitutes.
With an eight-point lead over Mitt Romney among likely voters, Barack Obama holds a bigger September lead than the last three candidates who went on to win in November, including Obama four years ago. In elections since 1988, only Bill Clinton, in 1992 and 1996, entered the fall with a larger advantage.
pewresearch.org
According to RealClearPolitics, here are the 4 most recent national Presidential polls released (based on date of interviews):
Rasmussen: Romney +1
Gallup: Obama +1
Associated Press: Obama +1
Pew Research: Obama +8
Maybe, just maybe that Pew Research poll is an outlier. My best guess is that President Obama is slightly ahead right now, somewhere between even and +3. Not +8.
You forgot a few polls Frank --- Fox News -- Obama +5, Wall Street Journal Obama +5. Also -- Obama is leading in every swing state except North Carolina.
Romney needs to control his inner-Snobney before its too late. Ha! Who am I kidding... tick... tick... tick... Times Up!
Great news. We just need to make sure to go out and VOTE. As a native New Yorker living in Wisco, it's kind of cool knowing that my vote counts that much MORE in Wisco than in NY.
Humpty-Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty-Dumpty had a great fall !
And ALL the Kings Horses, and ALL the Kings men couldn't put Humpty-Dumpty back together again.
Where-as "Humpty-Dumpty" is the Romney campaign, And "all the kings horses and all the kings men" are all Romneys uber-rich donors.
And while Romney "doubles down" on his dissing of 47% of the American Electorate, Obama shows TOTAL CLASS by his statement on the David Letterman show by saying you have to be prepared to be President of ALL The people.
Of course Obama says he wants to be President of all the people. Too bad he has alienated (or dissed, as you so eloquently expressed it) the other 47% with his socialist class warfare bs. ...~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~
Is it just me or does it look like the president was just kicked in the nuts before that photo was taken?
I was thinking he was either talking to someone with bad breath or the camera caught him in the middle of an excellent fart.
Honestly, I was thinking how handsome he looks.
And genuine.
What I was thinking actually is that he looks darker than before. And of course that would make me a big ol' racist according to people who don't know me, my political affiliation, or my race. ~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~
I have no idea who they are polling in Wisconsin!! Obama will never win Wisconsin! Twist it as you may, it is just not in the cards. The only reason Obama may be up in some polls, is that the people being polled are on the "dole" and are very afraid they may have to look for a job soon!!!! Sounds like that probably includes most of the people who are posting here!!!
49 days till I paste my "O" STILL the President bumpersticker on my truck...Tick..tick...tick...
Maybe your Republican Party heroes need to change their mascot from the elephant to the ostrich, head in the sand and all...
Kate, maybe they are polling all those teachers and government workers that walker screwed? Anger is a very powerful motivator and I think walker will come back to haunt the gop, just like their choice of romney and ryan.
Kate,
"On the dole?" Which dole would that be exactly? Social Security? Medicare? Public schools? Guaranteed student loans? That deduction you take for your mortgage? Medicaid which pays for many of our elders to be cared for in nursing homes? What dole are you talking about exactly?
NHLucky: You forgot to mention those ungrateful people who feel a real sense of entitlement, the ones who truly are moochers who are dependent on a government check to get by, the ones who haven't been paying taxes for the last 10 YEARS, the members of the military serving in Afghanistan and Bush's war in Iraq.
The ones Mitt Romney hates so much that he didn't even mention them once in his acceptance speech.
TO: Kate-782156 who wrote:
They used to say the same thing in Ohio where I was born, until Ohioans started realizing that Republicans were shipping Ohio jobs overseas to China (Steel Mills), and were leaving Ohioans to go broke.
Obama/Biden 2012
What the heck would you know Kate. I know I pay 10 times what you pay in tax and I would never vote Nazi/Republican. I guess they even have a name for people like me anymore, RINO. Doesn't bother me better than the Klan or the white trailer trash that makes up most of the Grand Old Party. The republicans thought they could co-opt the trailer trash that makes up the tea party and then ended up being it. Then you got Sirie or F6Zman on this site and they make up the rest of the party, men with tiny little penises that just can't handle women with a brain so they hate them and put them down. That Romney is going to get his behind kicked in this race with this unemployment rate and this economy shows just how out of touch the party has become. Kind of like McGovern got beat by Tricky Dickie, yeah I am that old and I pay the max into Social Security and have for years, that is not an entitlement that is owed. I am also from WI and Paul Ryan is thought of as garbage in this state and even in his district. He can't even bring his own state, the wimp he is and as for Sirie and F6Zman, do us all a favor, but the barrel against your forehead and pull the trigger firmly.
"The only reason Obama may be up in some polls, is that the people being polled are on the "dole" and are very afraid they may have to look for a job soon!!!!"
That's a typical moronic statement from a typical moronic teatard. Tell is teatard -- if the Romney campaign is doing so well, why are conservatives all over the nation -- conservatives like Limbaugh, Bill Kristol, Peggy Noonam criticizing him? why are they in such panic??
dirp -- I stand corrected. Of course those soldiers are among the biggest tax evaders and freeloaders around. LOL. Thanks for pointing that out.
The polls are in. Just remember to vote. Romney has no business being leader of this country. Obama/Biden 2012.
I am honestly starting to feel sorry for the Republican's
OMG!
Not me. I feel sorry for Mr. Obama and the Democrats. Look at the mess he will inherit should he get re-elected.
Just wait a minute, Thomas; the feeling will pass.
WTF was that that just went by?? The wheels coming off the wagon!
Obama Biden 4 More
This shouldn't be surprising at all. Wisconsin got screwed by Citizens United and the out-of-state money that propped up their crooked governor.
He may lose in all his home states
I think the land is sliding..least they luv mitthead in texass and az
Good News
From the article above:
This is indeed good news. The Eisenhower/Reagan Republicans, Reagan Democrats, and Independents are puting their trust in President Obama.
We need to Re-elect President Obama, take back the Boehner House of Obstructionists, and keep the Senate, then America will lead the world out of this Bush created recession.
Salud
I'm a supporter of President Obama but I wouldn't say the Eisenhower/Reagan Republicans and Reagan Democrats are putting "TRUST" in President Obama. More that they don't trust Mittwit.
Reality has a liberal bias.
The basic problem that Mr. Romney and the Reps have is that the more people understand their message, the less they like it. There is nothing morally wrong with a country putting together a government that makes life better for its citizens.
Where is the moral failure in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment Insurance, Workmen's Compensation, public schools, publicly supported higher education, government guaranteed student loans, medical research, clean air and water, public health, disaster relief, tax deductions that favor home ownership and families ... on and on.
What Mr. Romney (and conservatives on this blog for months) has said outright is that people who benefit from government services are lazy freeloaders mooching off him and his pals. Finally, we have something to respond to. I don't believe most Americans oppose any of the things I list above. Personal responsibility and caring for your family has nothing to do with it.
Many people who say "I never took a nickel of government aid" simply conveniently forget that they took the mortgage deduction, or that grandma is in a nursing home paid for by the US government, or that their Dad got his college degree on the GI Bill. Think about it for one minute, people, and then don't be so quick to sneer.
NHLucky: my God, you mean we have a government that wants to "promote the general welfare" of the nation and not just increase the net worth of the wealthy ?
Blasphemy, sacrilege, and just plain evil thoughts you have.
:)
Dirp,
Umm, well, you don't mean to tell me that promoting the general welfare isn't Constitutional, do you?
Oops. (Sorry, Rick Perry)
I AM disappointed. I thought that's what it said. Anybody got their pocket Consitution handy? I know you do, Tea Party People. Has that purpose for organizing the country been deleted while I wasn't paying attention or is it still there?
In general, the people opposed to Government spending have no idea how much they have, and do, personally benefit from that spending.. But they think of it as a deserved entitlement rather than a "handout".
That's why Romney has been so afraid to offer up specifics in his plans. His power, like the GOP's is in the abstract IDEA of smaller government. The specifics of who benefits from that spending or stands to lose when that spending is cut is what will be the downfall of the GOP message.
Who benefits most from big government spending? The rich, the retired, the rural (farmers) and veterans. Cutting the budget invariably means cutting spending that benefit one or all of these groups; groups that tend to vote GOP.
So Romney can't win without offering specifics, and he can't win if he does offer them.
They don't oppose government spending so much as they oppose the government spending money on people other than themselves. Oh, and they oppose PAYING for he services they're provided. I know some well off folks who are kind and generous but some of the richest people I know are also the cheapest. And wow! The cheap ones know how to lie!
Irony is that most of the 47% that Romney vilifies are in red states. Romeny is eating his own.
We, a nation of fools, will bring our own downfall if he gets in again to complete his obvious goals to the world
SHOCKING - CBS gives an honest, but disturbed, assessment .
LOL. You are a dupe of conspiracy nuts who have fallen off the edge.
Hot daddy
The point of vetting a candidate is to predict how he will perform in his job. We already know how President Obama has performed over the last four years: brilliantly.
So you can try to frame President Obama's past in the worst way possible, it doesn't matter, because we know him.
Republicans in Maine are having the hardest time knocking down the Independent former governor Angus King, in his senate race, for the same reason. All Angus has to do, in response to the Republicans' attack ads, is run his own ads saying "You know me." And we do. And we will vote for him.
Imagine the irony that the GOP has apparently chosen the ONE candidate who voters apparently identify with LESS and are MORE frightened of than president Obama.
GOP.... da da da DA DA... I'm luvin it.
@Amy B. Portland, ME ....Brilliantly??? Did you really say that? Do you really believe that? How on this God's green earth can you possibly use that word to describe the condition of this country after just 3+ years? The fact is you don't know him; you know what he shows, which changes like the wind, just like most every other politician. Like HotDaddy said, if you've made up your mind, you won't see the movie; which is a shame, because then you really might find some things that you didn't know before. Notice how his administration has not come out against the movie as GW did with Fahrenheit 911. No one can deny what is in this movie, because 90% of it comes directly from Obama's books! The rest is opinion of the author. ~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~
Why report on just these two university polls? They are totally useless as anything but free Obama campaign ads.
Quinnipiac University has Obama ahead by 6 +/- 2.5, Marquette University by 14 +/- 4.1. Even adjusting each by the maximum amount of error you can't make them agree. Marquette admits that “Our September poll makeup is about two points more Democratic and three points less Republican than average, which is within the margin of error,” said Franklin. If the sample were adjusted to match the yearlong average partisan makeup, both margins would tighten, with Baldwin leading 48 to 43 percent and Obama leading 51 to 43 percent." And their "yearlong average partisan makeup" is already biased toward Democrats and women.
The Rasmussen poll has Romney ahead by a point in Wisconsin - why not report on that, as well?
Because Rasmussen is wrong a lot. Please don't respond with one example of them being right. Your gonna say they called 2008 dead on. I will admit they did, but would you like 10 more examples when they were wrong?
CC - I wasn't touting Rasmussen at all (actually I don't completely trust any polls. They are always biased by the way in which questions are asked, and their selection of cohort) - I was just pointing out that NBC was cherry-picking polls to support a left-wing viewpoint.
reality has a liberal bias.
Conservatives have a bias against reality, too. That's what will make the morning after President Obama's reelection so much fun: listening to the shrill squeals of the right wing lunatic fringe as they search for excuses to explain the devastating loss of their imbecilic candidate.
I can hardly wait!
and Scott Walker was going to lose his recall election and he won by an even greater margin the second time around!
R&R2012!
Some "old news": "A November Wisconsin Public Radio survey found that 58 percent of voters supported a recall of the governor"