Citing a 14-year-old tape featuring Obama's comments about redistribution, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney accused Obama of wanting to redistribute wealth instead of creating it. The Obama campaign dismissed those remarks, and Democrats launched TV ads replaying hidden camera clips from Romney's headline-grabbing fundraiser. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.
The White House called Republicans' efforts to charge President Barack Obama as a supporter of "redistribution" as a "desperate effort" of a campaign looking to regain its footing.
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White House press secretary Jay Carney said there was little damaging about a video edited circulated by Republicans and the Romney campaign which purportedly features Obama, then a state senator, speaking about "redistribution."
“All of us who follow politics and policy… have seen circumstances like this where a campaign is having a very bad day or a very bad week. And in circumstances like that, there are efforts made -- sometimes desperate efforts made -- to change the subject,” Carney said during the daily White House briefing.
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In the video, Obama is heard to say, “the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution – because I actually believe in some redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody's got a shot."
At an October 19, 1998 conference at Loyola University, Barack Obama spoke against "propaganda" that said government doesn't work and the need to "pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution."
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Carney said the then-state senator had simply been calling for more effective city government, not the redistribution of wealth.
He added that the 2008 McCain campaign “tried and failed” to label Obama a “redistributor,” by playing up a clip in which Obama was heard telling Samuel Wurzelbacher (better known as “Joe The Plumber”) that "when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
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Like that effort, Carney said, this one would not succeed in defining Obama as supportive of wealth redistribution.
“The charge based on this 14-year-old video sounds very familiar to one that was tried and failed in 2008,” he said.


I'll bet if someone looks hard enough, you can find a video 14 years ago of Willard agreeing with Obama's position. Lord knows he has flipped and flopped and held every conceivable position on every issue during his political career.
LOL! Good point, Al. Or, a video of Romney speaking in front of low income Americans promising to cut their taxes (or, wait, he's said that thousands of times in his TV ads.)
First he complains 47% of Americans don't pay federal taxes, then he promises to cut taxes. I don't think Romney listens to himself.
I can still hear the nightmare that was Sarah Palin, with that shrill voice, screaming, about the 'redistribution of wealth'!
Willard should just bring her along......
A 14 year old video old clip made the rounds in 2008.
It didn’t make a difference then it won’t now.
You're right, Amy. Furthermore, he should be proud of the fact that 47% don't pay taxes. Lowering taxes is one of their top priorities.
How about this form of redistribution, when the FED announced QE3 Gas Prices shot up! So now It increase's the amount of money I pay Oil Company's! It has nothing to do with supply and demand.
Please don't. I have had my fill of Scary Flailing. While I'm at it I would like to say I'm much better off since 01/20/2009. I don't see or hear "W"s voice anymore (too bad I can't say that about Cheney) and after 11/06/2012 I won't have to listen or see that smug Mitt either.
Obama/Biden 2012 "The Choice is All too Clear."
And everyone who has ever breathed has died. Clearly breathing causes death.
It's the wrong 47%. Hence why you see the GOP clamoring for a flat tax.
So Obama calls for redistribution of State Funds and all of a sudden it's a war on the wealthy again? :D
You guys are desperate. :D
You got that right. If they can keep Bush locked in the basement after winning 2 presidential elections, you know the Republicans will run from Willard like he is radioactive. In a few short years, Willard will be nothing more than the answer to a trivia question, kind of like Michael Dukakis. Now go ride that tank Willard!
Actually going to the bathroom does. I don't know anyone who died that didn't go to the bathroom once in their life. Well except Rush Limbaugh, he hasn't. :)
Please step in front of one... you're an embrassment to your party and your country.
I'll bet $10,000 that Rombot didn't mind the 10 million dollar F.D.I.C. "redistribution" that saved Bain Capital.
I'll also wager Rombot didn't mind the 200 million dollar redistribution for the Salt Lake City Olympics.
It wouldn't suprise me if the oil companies enjoy their 10 billion dollar redistribution they get EVERY year.
"Socialism", it works out for the rich, apparently.
Rombot; wishing he were Hispanic, instead of having his panic.
You've gotta love what Stephen Colbert said about Romney:
...and what Romney said about his wife to those supporters at the fundraiser in Florida:
Sorry, Mitt...I was tired of her the first time I heard her speak.
Al in Visalia -- Too funny! Bet there are thousands of clips to choose from.
Fore -- Don't forget that they SOCIALIZE losses and privatize profits.
Actually, he does, every day, for over an hour, flinging that crap of his around over the airwaves.
So true, devie......
Talk about redistribution of wealth.....Sarah sucked millions out of her rabid base into her personal accounts!
ForePlinger: it was not $200,000,000 that saved the Olympics, it was a 1.3 BILLION DOLLAR us bailout of the Salt Lake City games that saved Romney's hide. That's why he won't talk about the Olympics, it was federal money that saved the games, not Mitt Romney.
You know, I didn't think it possible but he has biologically evolved from being a fat man to something else altogether new. Something which defecates verbally rather than biologically. Stupendous!
I find it HILARIOUS that a film clip of Obama talking about redistribution is deemed desperate by the left. It's part of his DNA ... take from those who have and give to those who have not. It doesn't really matter whether those who "have" earned it, or whether they have lived a frugal lifestyle and planned for the future. God forbid that I have planned for the educations of my children in the past, Obama now wants to take my money and give it to someone else ! Jeffrey, Michael and Rachel will be so disappointed !!
Obama wants to tax and redistribute to those he deems should have it ... not the American way !!!
Ever notice how Limbaugh resembles Cartman. Both of them even crap out of there mouths.
LMAO!!!! You too? I thought I was just jaded. That woman makes Mitt's act look humble.
You people!
Dirp:
Thanks for the correction.
T. Money Trim 'n' Rapy Luau, hittin' the mad scrilla.
Jim-1455434... Do you have any ACTUAL examples? Thought not.
So how does Obama achieve his promise of equal opportunity for all without redistribution of wealth? I'm still waiting to hear how he's going to open up all those new places at Harvard for the unlucky. After all didn't Mayor Castro admit that he was simply "lucky" to get into Harvard and everyone deserved the same chance he got?
Well there are his remarks to Joe the Plumber in 2008, and then there is Obamacare which is a huge pooling of resources to re-distribute. In an insurance pool everyone pays the same and pools the same risk for the same premiums. That is not true of Obamacare where taxes are used to subsidize the premiums.
Grover Dorkquist banned, rereg of Hugh Class=.
There is a GOD! Well, at least there is a Tyler! ;~)
Devie, with all due respect, bite me! Don't like what I say, then use the "ignore user" feature. I really could give a rats @$$ whether you read or like what I post!
Alan, NJ: are you a firm believer in the modern Republican final solution for the poor (and the disabled, and women, and veterans, and students, and minorities, and immigrants......)
DIE you moochers, DIE ?
Devie, after re-reading your post, I think it was Willard you wanted to step in front of the tank, not the guy who wrote that. Please accept my apology and I will go sit in the corner for one hour wearing a Mitt Romney mask. I also flagged my own post.
Al, Take it easy. No harm, no foul. I love your posts, they make-a-me laugh. I tend to forget to be more precise in my posting. Sorry for the confusion.
BTW: I don't like the reporting and collapsing feature it ruins the continuity of the threads.
Your posting pal, devie
Well drip, if you are incapable of finding a reasoned response to Alan's post, why not just throw out some INFLAMMATORY BULL$HIT ? You libbies are such "drama queens" ! Pull out the film clips of a man pushing granny over a cliff and DENY, DENY, DENY that Obama said what he said !
Obama wants to redistribute what little wealth I have earned and have saved for my children. You can lie about it all you want, but he has said it before and his "give everyone a fair shot" quotes are simply proof !
Why would Carney even try to debate that Obama is a redistributionist. He has proudly stated he is a
socialistI mean wealth redistributor. How many times does he have to say it.F|_|CK ME. God liberals are stupid. Obama is on record countless times and his actions are clear.
Romney said the sky was blue and Carney said, "No its not. He's desperate!"
Stephen Colbert is wrong because Romney never said this. I don't see how Colbert & Jon Stewart can live with themselves when they purposefully say things that are not true.
What Obama said back then is no different to what some say Romney said.
What people don't understand is that Obama doesn't care for the poor people or for the minorities. Watch 'Obama 2016' and you will see that his mindset is very different from a normal person.
Obama worships to one person and that is to his late father. Obama is following exactly to what his father wanted. Sadly, the American people, along with Jon Stewart & Stephen Colbert, are being duped by Obama's very cool appearance.
Yeah, really stupid looking at a "clip" that long ago.
Now.....let's take a look at what Mr. Obama has accomplished/not accomplished/promised:
Transparency.
ObamaCare.
Stimulus.
Government Motors.
Lobbyists.
Immigration.
Leaks.
Terrorists.
Those are the things which should be considered when voting.
Romney-Ryan 2012 to take back America from the Progressives and the Radicals.
One could ask the same of Rush Limbaugh. Somehow those talking heads spreader of elephant dung and donkey dung have no problem "entertaining" us with their insightful banter.
Yep, Media Matters is the ONLY place to get your current information. After all, the information is coming directly from the White House.
You need look no further than when Romney was governor of Massachusetts, when he took positions that he described himself as being to the left of Ted Kennedy.
And then, of course, there was that time when his own father was on welfare.
http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/09/19/mitt-romney-father-george-romney-was-public-aid-recipient-child-after-family-fled-mexico/RJOgNPBaAxJkH1vqWVnGDL/story.html
Romney referred to that period in his RNC speech as a proud and determined man, pulling himself up.
http://www.npr.org/2012/08/30/160357612/transcript-mitt-romneys-acceptance-speech
He sort of skipped a few steps there, but translation: My dad was a hero. Everyone else who, for whatever reason, may need temporary help while trying to do the same thing is just lazy.
It's all relative, you know.
Let me quote Mitt Romney on that for you, Jo Ann:
From his lips to your ears.
I await your spin.
Pssssssssst, Don't tell anyone; but Obamacare was an old Republican idea of 'shared' pain. The mandates were proposed by Bob Dole, if I recall.
Republicans are FOR personal responsibility - all the way up until President Obama is FOR it,...then they can't run away from the concept fast enough.
It's about as mature as a game of 'cooties' on the playground in like 2nd grade! Be proud Republicans,...this 'credibility' gap? YOU BUILT IT!
If it was a "desperate effort," Obama's people wouldn't even have responded to it.
The fact that they did, tells me it struck a nerve with them, and they are trying to limit/preempt the damage they feel it may inflict on their own (Obama's) message.
DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!
What are you talking about? That's EXACTLY what he said. From the transcript --
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/us/politics/mitt-romneys-speech-from-mother-jones-video.html?pagewanted=all&_moc.semityn.www
If you don't believe me, watch the video --
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/watch-full-secret-video-private-romney-fundraiser
What perplexes me is that you obviously have never listened to the comments or read the transcript. You're letting yourself by led by someone -- someone not reliable.
Frankly, I don't see how you live with your own ignorance.
Smitty, in '04, Tulare County went for Bush 2-1. In 2008, I think it was something like 58-42 McCain. Our Congressmen is Devin Friggen Nunes, a bagger's bagger. While California is a blue state, we do have a section of Oklahoma right here in the Central Valley.
ldo, FANTASTIC post. Please keep posting it on every article. The libs will just ignore it, after all, they have no argument to truth and fact. But, hopefully some independents and/or undecideds will see it and it will make a difference.
Mitt Romney and Ann Romney should get T-shirts that read: "I AM WITH STUPID" AND WEAR THEM TOGETHER THE SAME DAY.
J.C.-1016889.....
Yep, I noticed "Progressive cricketts".
Shucks, even FLYeisty is not on this thread today. She must be in the "Obama Bucks" line at the Social Welfare Office in Chicago.
Typical REpublican: Insulting someone that IS NOT PRESENT TO DEFEND HERSELF!!! OBVIOULSY YOU GET BEAT EVERY TIME BY Feisty, and she is not here on this thread to tell you off.
This is the only time that you can write something without getting it right back.
O.K. Folks
After You listen to Comrade Obama extolling the virtues of wealth redistribution, Google,"Newspaper shows Obama belonged to Socialist Party by Aaron Klein", the article is from the Democratic Socialist for America's OWN Newspaper, showing Obama was a card carrying , dues paying member of the New Party, a marxist socialist organization whose stated goal was to infiltrate the Democratic Party with candidates and move the party to the far left, Obama won his election to the Illinois State House that year,(1996) and in the article appears in photos with some of his fellow Comrades thanking the party for their support. Once You listen to this tape and read the article You have been informed, so You no longer can use the excuse that You didn't know, that You were just a useful idiot duped by radicals, if afterward, You still support this man, You are either a Communist, or a Communist sympathizer, there is no other choice.
Of course they are communist sympathisers.They have been brainwashed to believe, despite all facts and history to the contrary, that communism is the way to go. Hell, Obama ADMITTED that he sought out those Marxist professors, he wrote that in his 'autobiography.' The only thing the Obamabots have going for them is deep denial. They are like alcholics, blame anyone and anything except the truth for their problems.
They're not real educated either, they are perfect little sycophants who only parrot what Dear Leader tells them to say and they only think what they have been programmed to think. Too much television and pop culture and not enough research and education will do that.
IRESPOND-2315268.....
I spelled FLYesity that way for a reason. Glad to see a fellow Progressive on Newsvine is sticking up for her.
Bummer she is not here to "defend" herself. Better yet, I would like to see her DEFEND my comments in # 1.34 instead of deflecting to something else as she always does.....or calls other posters names.
The video do not bring anything new about Obama. However the media bias is doing a good job not publishing anything that damage the "moderate" image of President Obama.
OBAMA IS A RADICAL LIKE HIS FRIENDS
Radical Friends Of Obama
Valerie Bowman Jarrett. Senior advisor to U.S. president
Barack Obama. She is Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Engagement, and Chairs the White House Commission on Women and Girls. Prior to her current position, she served as Co-Chair of the Obama-Biden Presidential Transition Team, and Senior Advisor to Obama's presidential campaign. She was also a Director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.
Valerie Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran to American parents, James E. Bowman and Barbara Taylor Bowman. She spent the first five years of her life in Iran before her family moved to London. Following a year in London, the family moved to Chicago's elite neighborhood, Hyde Park.
In 1983 she married Dr. William Robert Jarrett, son of famed Chicago Sun-Times reporter Vernon Jarrett. They were divorced in 1988 and William Jarrett died in 1993.
The Jarretts and the Bowmans were family friends.
Vernon Jarrett was a one time political associate of Communist Party USA activist and Obama mentor Frank Marshall Davis.
Valerie Jarrett is the great niece of prominent Democratic Party leftist Vernon Jordan.
Whenever I hear Mitt Romney trying to explain away what he meant on that hidden tape, I'm reminded of the Grinch trying to explain to little Cindy Lou Who why it was that he was taking the Christmas tree up the chimney instead of leaving presents. The Grinch goes on to explain:
"Why my sweet little tot... there's a light on this tree that won't light on one side. So I'm taking it home to my workshop, my dear. I'll fix it up there, then I'll bring it back here."
At least the Grinch had the cojones verde to offer Cindy Lou Who a DETAILED explanation, even if it was a lie. Give us SOMETHING, Mitt. This standoff is getting old.
***************Breaking News**************
The republican party is reporting they have video of Obama smoking a cigarette and drinking a beer!
Word on the street is they also have a reliable witness that is willing to come forward and state on the record that they have it on good source that Obama did not put the toilet seat back down back in 1982.
Ido -
Your list is pathetic. You fault the man for things your kind believe in... Unlike your kind, Obama makes decisions based on FACT and substance and does not live in fear of political fallout for doing what is right. Sick and twisted are the GOP. Here's some FACT and TRUTH for you to swallow:
FACTS YOU'LL NEVER HEAR ON FOX
NEWS:
FACT: Roger Ailes is president of Fox News Channel, chairman of the Fox
Television Stations Group. Ailes was a media consultant for Republican
presidents Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George H. W. Bush.
JOBS -- Under Obama, 4.5 Million private sector jobs have been
created in just the past 3 years - this after Bush losing 750K per month at the
end of his term. Labor Force Statistics from the Current
Population Survey (Source: BLS Rpt. LNU02000000)
GOP MISLEAD WITH:
"LESS PEOPLE WORKING NOW THAN 2009" - These job losses occurred during Obama's
first year. It took time to turn things around after Bush's 750K jobs lost per
month. If you read the graph at bottom you can clearly see that under Obama job
losses were turned around.
DEBT - - per Congressional Budget
Office -- BUSH LEFT Obama $1.2 Trillion DEFICIT, and 3 Trillion in DEBT
projected into Obama's term. Add to this the worst economic crisis in 80
years. GOP 2006 Senate, 49/49/2. Who's to blame for our
debt?
STOCK MARKET- Under Bush, DOW closed at around 8000. Under
Obama, we're now at 13000! Obama's policies have benefited "ALL our retirements
and 401K" with stock market recovery!
ECONOMIC GROWTH - Positive Growth
now AFTER BEING HANDED Negative by Bush.
TARP - with the threat of
further regulation, most of TARP has been paid back w/ interest! Under Bush,
this $$$ was loaned unconditionally amounting to corporate
welfare.
TAXES, taxes are lower for all but the richest, despite GOP
obstruction! GOP recently fought tooth-and-nail to increase the burden on the
middle class via the payroll tax. Thank You Mr. Obama. Furthermore, Tax Policy
Center -- taking a close look at Romney's proposed tax and economic plan ---
concluded that it would cut taxes for the richest Americans and actually raise
them on the poor.
OBAMACARE: Nixon, McCain, Romney and Gingrich, all FOR
mandate before they were against it! Romney implemented the ORIGINAL Obamacare
and mandate was originally a GOP idea!
TERRORISM - under Obama's
leadership and renewed focus he promised during the 2008 election - we got
Bin!!!
AMERICAN LIVES - Egypt and Libya uprising - NO AMERICAN
DEATHS!!!
*** All of these things and more with NOTHING but GOP
Obstruction and fingerprinting!
IN TRUTH, IT TAKES A
FAILED PERSON TO CALL OBAMA A FAILURE.
Sarah Palin? would that be the Jungle Fever Sarah Palin? The Sarah Palin whose Boyfriend was African American ( black for you rednecks). I wonder if The Teaparty of the KKK crowd still supports her?
Jim....
I love that I had to read about 20 posts before I saw 1 of you right wingers trying to defend this idiot. I imagine that will resemble the election turnout this year, since Willard has now insulted the majority of his non-1% base, if not ALL of it. LOL...you guys are such great comic relief, especially your boy Willard!
WHERE ARE YOUR TAXES MITT??!?!?
VOTE STRAIGHT DEMOCRAT THIS ELECTION AND GET AS MANY REPUBLICANS OUT OF OFFICE AS POSSIBLE!!!! THEY ARE ALL THE SAME
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Well all you righties must feel pretty bad about yourselves the way old Mittster is calling 1/2 the nation freeloaders etc. Doesn't give a Patoot about you because you might not be paying income taxes. Mitt wants to kill your Social Security, your Medicare, your Medicaid, and your Post Office! Yikes Christmas cards and cookies coming via fed ex or not at all because you won't have any local delivery?....On top of that the ol Mittster wants to deduct you prancing dancing supporters as a tax write off like his prancing ponies!
So why not come down to the Chatterbox cafe tonight and have a big piece of BeBop a Rebop rhubarb pie?
Wouldn't this be a great time for a piece of rhubarb pie? Yes, nothing gets the taste of shame and humiliation out of your mouth quite like Be Bop a ReBop Rhubarb pie!
"Obama wants to redistribute what little wealth I have earned and have saved for my children. You can lie about it all you want, but he has said it before and his "give everyone a fair shot" quotes are simply proof " Jim, watch the video, the whole thing. He is talking about pooling resources and "redistributing" them so everyone has a fair shot. Much like taxes being divided among school systems so all schools have a shot at success, NOT just the ones in wealthy neighborhoods. For the record, Capitalism is in and of itself a redistribution of wealth. Social Security is also. President Obama is not "redistributing" your wealth, like he is going to empty your bank accounts or take the food from your kids. What utter nonsense. He is talking about those who have more pay a little more to fix the mess this nation is in. Your comments are without merit.
So beautiful.
You bet! And how about that US Army training film from 1995 where Willard said he couldn't wait to check out his M-16 and kill him some anti-American Jews! Oh, wait--Willard didn't serve in the US Army, did he?
The Republicans have been making sure the wealthy get to keep more of their money percentage wise for years and making it easier for them to hide money outside the U.S. so they don't have to pay taxes on it telling us to wait for it to trickle down. I call that a form of redistribution! The Republicans don't of course because it just helps their wealthy get richer and the rest of just have to struggle along.
My husband and I pay taxes, have for the 44 years we have been married, every year! We pay a larger percentage than Romney or Ryan paid last year!
The wingnuts are going insane, Obama is a Communist, Obama is a Socialist, Obama is a Alcoholic, Obama is a Muslim, Obama is blah blah blah.
What Obama Really is a Good President who has led our Country out of a Great Abyss, That the previous Administration did to our Great Nation. If you dont see how much better off we are now than 4 years ago. Don't blame the President Blame the Do nothing Republicons in Congress, They have been talking about Abortion and Womens Rights instead of Jobs Jobs Jobs. Vote Straight Democrat this election send a Message to the American Taliban that if they dont straighten there $hit out there will be more hell to pay in 2014
Well, Jim, while we are touting what "is not the American way," let us not give in to the distraction. You know what I find "not the American way?" The references from Republicans about freeloaders. My 88 year old father is dying of heart failure. When my mother died of ALS two years ago, it took a huge financial toll on a lifetime of savings and investing, badly injured by Enron and the economic issues of the last few years impacting their investments. He just sold his modest home of 54 years to pay for the 24 hour care he needs and survives on a small pension, Social Security, and Medicare, which he paid into all his adult life. He does these things without a single complaint, despite the pain of leaving the home where his memories of my mother are most poignant.
This is a man who volunteered in WWII to go overseas and fight, where he was wounded. After he left active military, he went to work for the military as a civilian, until he retired. Life-long Republicans, gave 10% of all earnings to church and charity, worked hard, active in the community, honest as the day is long, lived frugally and saved like crazy, the moral model of responsibility ... that was my parents.
Now, suddenly, this wonderful man is declared a Freeloader by his own party because he isn't currently paying federal income tax???? THAT is UN-American. My dad is one of the 47%... and I am incredibly proud of him. A million Mitts wouldn't be sufficient to equal one of a man of my father's great character. The condescension and derision he showed is simply unforgivable.
GOP eyes just popped out of their skull! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's amazing these GOP nuts demonize ANY and EVERY opposition candidate to a point of sickness and think somehow the EVIL isn't theirs to own.
Just keep pointing that finger GOP, you'll find the mirror eventually.
:)
Ro Mar
you have a great father, Romney couldnt hold your dads shoes...
Romney a bad choice for President, lets not go Backwards Vote Obama/Biden 2012
Why is this new? Barry said the same thing to Joe the plumber in 2008.
NObama 2012
Gee, I would think the Poor and Middle income people likes the idea of redistribution, does this weaken OBAMA or makes him stronger?, Romney is just not to bright this could be beneficial to OBAMA more than the 47% comment ..... What a Moron, now at least the common folk knows OBAMA's stance is real and he don't FILP FLOP ..... He was for the people long long ago.
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Democrats deriding their own tactics when the tables are turned on them? What a surprise.
When we have nothing of substance to run and stoop to digging up year's old secretly recorded video it is meaningful... when people respond to it ... well that is "desperate". Pathetic.
The good thing about the whole situation is that it highlights Democrats inability to face the reality of the new welfare class they have created, highlights how empty their campaign is, and highlights how low they are willing to drag American politics just to distract the sheep.
Ok, among his wealthest supporters, those he love, he told them 47% of the useless people will vote for President Obama, I guess he was telling his friends the truth so he could get more dollars from that setting he was in. Than this happens:
So, is he saying he was lying to his financial supporters that day, only told them that to get more money, and now he's going to "reframe the message," and tell the truth, that he was lying?
OBAMA/BIDEN....2012!!!!
crisp....yeah let's talk about Joe the plumber.....or shall we say, Joe the liar! Wasn't his name, wasn't his game. Not even a plumber...just another liar repub. Samuel Wurzelbacher, better known as Joe the Plumber, tells TIME he's so outraged by GOP overspending, he's quitting the party in 2009.
BUSTED....but if a liar is your hero, he is your albatross!
People that like Obama cannot handle the truth. They will say or do anything right along with the liberal media. NoMORE LIES this is for you.
1. I watched Fox News and MSNBC side by side. While I pretty much hate both stations it was very appearant Fox at least was more unbiased which for once was refreshing. (Most times they are anything but unbiased). Perhaps we should dig into MSNBC a bit. So your arguement about Fox while may be true MSNBC is in bed with Obama for sure.
2. Job: He actually created 4.5 million although Ben Brernanke says he created 2.3 million of those through his policies. If you have noticed the real unemployment rate has ticked down only .3 % and the number on unemployment have ticked down much more. The reason being is peoples unemployment have run out and some have just given up. The numbers you have given also do not take into consideration that companies had over unemployeed people in a panic and many were rehired because of that. It is just like the stock market, when it goes into apanic whether it be a stock or a market you always see a bounce back. Thats human nature at work. So did Obama really create all those jobs. No would be the correct answer.
3. Look at 2. There are more people still unemployeed according to the department of labor and Obama. So what part of that are you arguing about?
4. The debt question. You are again wrong. You see things you want to see that have nothing to do with reality. We are now at 16 trillion in debt. Obama has added more to debt than the last several presidents combined. And the real recepients were Unions. Look at what percentage of contracts went to union based organizations. Many of them no bid. How much additional debt, waste and fraud do you think that racked up. According to government oversight committees the numbers are in the high billions.
5. Stock market: You ever hear of the phrase you can't fight the fed. Thats why the markets are high. What do you think is going to happen to those retirement accounts when the feds take away the punch bowl. The market is artificially inflated because of the fed. What do you think will happen when we see a downgrade to junk status of our debt. Thats the path we are on right now. Your retirement account will be worthless to say the least.
6. Economic growth: Our growth would be much higher and much faster if Obama knew what he was doing. He has added so much regulation and cost to business that they are running very lean on labor and will stay that way in order to make their profits. Profits are up but revenue is actually down. That pretty much says it all.
7.Tarp: You obviously forgot about AIG and money still owed by the auto makers. I cannot say all tarp was bad though. We did make some money off the program but AIG is certainly not one of them. Also not all of that was done under Bush. I also have read some news clippings from that period that said Bush consulted with Obama on all of these items and Obama was for it. So on this you cannot have your cake and eat it too.
8. Taxes: Policy tax center. Not exactly a shining example of evidence given their past. Obama basically has helped to redistribute wealth and create a welfare nation. Thats not what this country is about or should be about. Most number of people on welfare and foodstamps. Most number of people not paying taxes. Obama and Romney both have bad ideas regarding taxes. Obama says just raise taxes on the rich. Romney says cut everyones taxes. Both are wrong and both know it. The math is not their to simply raise the taxes on the rich. You have to broaden the bases in a huge way to get additional revenue to balance the budget and bring down debt. Cutting taxes on everyone decreases revenue and increases debt. By the way Obamas plan to raise taxes on just the rich actually increases our debt. The reason is his spending plan far out strips his new revenue. If he gets re-elected this would be his last term. My guess is he will end up raising taxes on all becuase he will have no choice. Same for Romney.
9.Terrorism: Sorry but you have no legs to stand on here. Obama even said thanks to Bushes policies he was able to get Laden.Under Obama we now face even bigger threats than before and we are less secure. Sorry but Obamas polices have made the middle east even worse.
10. American Lives: You must be grasping at straws here.
11. I am now glad there was obstruction. But you seem to leave out one very important fact. There was a lot of obstruction from his own party. His jobs bill for instance.
I am amazes at how many people see obama through their rose colored glasses and have dispensed with reality. Those are the people that will help him destroy this country. When we go off this fiscal cliff you will see an America in shambles. Obama your fearless leader says he is OK to see that happen if he does not get his way.
The best thing about clinton was that he had to work with the republican party. That was a set of checks and balances. Having democrats in both houses is a true failure and we learned that quickly during Obamas first two years. Why do you think republicans won back the congress. It would appear there is a good shot of that happening in the Senate. If Obama wants a second term fine but I say make him work across party lines.
T'was the night before elections,
And all thru' the town,
Tempers were flaring
Emotions ran up and down.
I, in my bathrobe
With a cat in my lap,
Had shut off the TV,
tired of political crap.
When all of a sudden,
There arose such a noise,
I peered out my window,
Saw Obama and his boys
They had come for my wallet,
They wanted my pay
To hand out to others
Who had not worked a day!
He snatched up my money,
And quick as a wink,
Jumped back on his bandwagon
As I gagged from the stink.
He then rallied his henchmen
Who were pulling his cart.
I could tell they were out
To tear my country apart!
'On Fannie, on Freddie,
On Biden and Ayers!
On Acorn, on Pelosi'
He screamed at the pairs!
They took off for his cause,
And as they flew out of sight,
I heard him laugh at a nation
Who wouldn't stand up and fight!
So I leave you to think on this one final note...
IF YOU DON'T WANT SOCIALISM GET OUT AND VOTE !!!!
Author unknown
Can you say, "Desperate"? RoMONEY is reaching for anything to hang on to--he's drowning. Any you know he's drowning when the GOP is reeling him in. A 14 year old video? Are you kidding me? Tell you what, how about RoMONEY show us his last 14 years' worth of TAXES?
U.S. budget experts have revised their estimate of Americans who will pay taxes in 2016 because they don't have health insurance from 4 million to 6 million. 50% increase. Personally, I think it's still too low. Employers will be dumping employees because the tax is cheaper than insurance, but not to worry. The government has a wonderful plan for you.
whether its 2, 4, 9, 14 or 18 years ago... when i hear someone that leads our country say he believes in redistributing wealth i want to know about it. That is not a principal that founded our country. Taking from one class and giving to another is a tenant of socialism. People that want the state to be a big central part to everyones life won't care about this.
This is what redistrubution, Republican style, looks like:
CBO | Trends in the Distribution of Income
Well it won't post my link! Google growth in real after-tax income from 1979 to 2007
The bubbling BOOB VoMItt looks more and more like A LOSER EVERYDAY
Even the GOPee is deserting the LOSER,
Sort of like RATS deserting the sinking Mittins Ship
Bird, the rich get richer in all forms of government and in every country. Always have and always will. Why do people like trashing successful people? Jealousy maybe? Instead of bemoaning successful people why don't people try to improve their own lives and of those around them instead of complaining all the time.
Bird, you think you deserve a piece of their pie? This is a free country and everyone has a chance to pursue monetary gain if thats your thing.
But what Obama said to "Joe the Plumber" in 2008 is even more clear by what Obama wants, that is DISTRIBUTION. A video from Obama's 2008 campaign, when speaking to Joe the plumber illustrates that Obama's hasn't changed his spots in the least. So forget the, but, but, but that video is 14 YEARS AGO. The Joe the Plumber video is just 4 years ago. He said the very same thing to Joe as he said on the older video. We have to redistribute the wealth, spread it around. Let the government hold the purse strings and decide what is fair, on their terms. Trouble is, there will no longer BE any wealthy or even moderately successful people left. They'll be tapped out. As in, the money will run out. How about people having the opportunity to live with dignity, on their own merits, wealth through their own creations, independent of government deciding how much they deserve. How about we stop shipping billions to the M.E. and billions to other countries so they can drill for oil, build automotive factories, and we keep that money here and drill our OWN oil, and create jobs?
Howdyi to Al in Visalia: I've been enjoying your comments for weeks. Agreed, Mitt Romney is a regular disco ball when it comes to all his different points of view. When what he says doesn't work to get him votes, he suddenly reflects a different opinion. See Mitt. See Mitt Spin. Spin Mitt Spin.
Next we will see a reflection of "Poor, misunderstood, mistreated, Mitt" - a victim of nasty politics. Sure Mitt, I believe that you aren't playing as rough as the Democrats - I believe you Mitt (Sure I do!)
mike-2598123, now thats a funny and cool poem. My daughter wants to use it in her class.Dude you got talent
Another graph demonstrating redistribution Republican style:
Income Gaps Between Very Rich and Everyone Else More Than ...
Good Gwad! I hope the President doesn't try to defend this remark. The republicans are attempting a straw man accusation. This is the USA, the bastion of Capitalism. We damn well better have some redistribution soon. Distribution, redistribution, distribution, etc., is the lifeblood of a healthy, consumer based, capitalistic society, and economy. Our currency, the symbolic exchange medium of our nations wealth is out of balance. Too few hold too much currency, and too many have too little, thereby creating wealth inequity and inequality, which is the underlying cause of our economic doldrums. Its simple arithmetic, or for those who prefer, the rule of Oc-cam's razor. Either way, the basics won't change.
Republicans desperate?
The REAL Obama is beginning to surface.
It's SO bad that Jay Carney has (like Obama) started using a teleprompter to explain his screw-ups.
You AIN'T seen nothing yet.
Many are predicting a "LANDSLIDE" for Gov Romney in November.
This ANTI-AMERICAN PRESIDENT is at the end of the road as most folks are beginning to realize just how "phony" and incompetent Barack Obama really is.
Please don't subject your children and grandchildren to the consequences of 4 more years of what he says will "transform America" regardless of your personal gains in the market or maybe your home is worth a little more now.
The people at the top of the VERY RICH you quote bird are democrats bird. Gates, Buffett , Ellison etc. So the republican style is to give to the democrats, who are the richest of the rich?
The top 400, majority democrats.
So Mac, for the ones you claim have too little (whatever standard you use) shouldn't try to better themselves, but just expect handouts from the wealthiest in the country?
I made the comment some time ago that Democrats like to get as many people as possible dependent on government assistance by promising ever increasing 'free benefits', and then using that 'hook' as a campaign issue by saying "Republicans want to take away your benefits", this creating a base of support for Democrats - at taxpayer expense.
Now that we have about 47% of families in that category, they appear to be within striking distance of their goal of "A majority voting themselves raises by electing politicians that will keep promising more and more 'freebies', and forcing someone else to pay the tab".
It appears that Romney agrees.
The chaos in Europe should be a lesson for those that think government benefits are 'free'.
By the way - for those that claim that the 'working poor pay payroll taxes', keep in mind that those payments for Social Security and Medicare are supposed to go into each employees individual "Trust Account" to provide for their retirement and health care when they retire - it's shameless that the government confiscates those 'Trust Accounts' and spends them pandering for votes.
Hey NBC how about actually doing your job and start asking Obama to answer the questions about his ideological outlook and his vision of the role of government, redistribution, taxes, deficit spending, payment of the debt and balancing the budget, etc... rather than allowing Mr. Obama to hide behind Jay Carney.
And while you are at it, you can also ask Mr. Obama why he insisted upon sending his team out to say the terrorist attack on our Consulate in Libya was simply a spontaneous protest of a film when the Director of the National Counter Terrorism Center testified before a Senate Panel, the day after Mr. Obama repeated the same lie on David Letterman, that it was actually a planned attack coordinated by a guy released from Gitmo with ties to Al Qaida?
I never thought I would see the day when the President of the US would use the same cover story (read lie) terrorist were using as a cover for an attack on US in order to keep himself from suffering a setback in his reelection campaign. It is one thing to bloviate, misdirect, and misrepresent your opponents position. But it is quite another to use a lie, fabricated by terrorist to cover an attack that resulted in the murder of an Ambassador and 3 other Americans and the capture of sensitive security information, to act as a cover on news the President does not want the public to hear because he is afraid it will negatively impact his reelection campaign. This is the lowest of the low, I is an unprecedented breach of the trust the American people place in our Presidents. Simply disgusting.
As I've pointed out, the rightwads lie all the time about everything. I was scrolling down and saw Ido's BS about the stimulus. Point 1 was about the 800 billion for "shovel ready projects" said IDO. Unfortunately, ido was lying. About a third of it was for tax cuts. And quite a bit of it was for other things.
Rightwads lie all the time about everything.
Except perahps this:
Willard's papa was on welfare for a couple years. Willard identifies him as an irresponsible moocher. Cool. Could that be true? Is Willard the poisonous fruit of the poisoned tree? Or just a puddle of long rotted fecal matter in search of yet another tax break for the rich?
Yes, we all know he hasn't changed from State Redistributor to Redistributor in Chief. So what? Will that change the minds of the 47% that are in true need? Of course not, they see their subsistence being sucked dry by the moochers to the point help won't be sustainable. THey'll vote to get rid of the moochers and that won't be a vote for Oredistributor.
Any time money exchanges hands it's "redistribution of wealth". Every administration does it, it's just a question of priorities? Trickle down or trickle up? Either way it ends up in the hands of the rich.
Now back to Myth Robme's 47% gaffe....
Can someone tell me what is a FREE Benefit, I know we have 7% on Welfare , Who are the other 40%? Are they the Senior Citizens who have paid into the Social Security INSURANCE part of the 40% are they the Military who fight and die for YOUR FREEDOM part of the 40% are they the struggling college STUDENTS who have a part time job part of the 40% Is it my 2 young kids (12 and 13) part of the 40% who dont pay Federal Taxes? I pay 22k in federal taxes, about 28% of my money. I have no problem being a good AMERICAN for my kids,your kids,My Military Your Military, My Senior mom and Your Senior Mom and Your College Kids because 1 day Hopefully my Kids will go to College. Why is it OK for Mittens and the top 1% not pay there Fair Share? are They and You REALLY THAT UN AMERICAN?
SOCIAL sECURITY INSURANCE
DISABILITY INSURANCE
UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
They are not Freebies They are Insurances That I and you all pay into
StopTheLiesNOW
The wingnuts are going insane, Obama is a Communist ….I'm not sure, Obama is a Socialist …Yes he is Sociaist and distribution of wealth is part of the socialist ideology, Obama is a Alcoholic ….No but he consume drugs in college, which is illegal if he was arrested he never could be President…Obama is a Muslim ……No he is not, he is a "Christian" now, his Pastor was Rev. Write until he throw him under the bus, however his father and step father both where Muslims , Barry Soetoro move to Indonesia a Muslim country, he learn the Koran and pray in the Mosque, Obama is blah blah blah. …..Yes we all know about that too.
What Obama Really is a Good President who has led our Country out of a Great Abyss,?????????????????
GOP eyes just popped out of their skull! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's amazing these GOP nuts demonize ANY and EVERY opposition candidate to a point of sickness and think somehow the EVIL isn't theirs to own.
Just keep pointing that finger GOP, you'll find the mirror eventually.
Wouuuuu Remember this ?
Thank you Tea Party Terrorist
GOP, your candidate is scum. You are scum. About the only thing you can do is admit that you have been pointing the finger all this time and have almost destroyed this country with your GREED. ….Pathetic . Next....
StopTheLiesNOW
Obama is exactly what he seems to be on the clip. He believes in redistributing income, not for "fairness", but to cement his and the liberal elite's power! It is obvious that at some time there will no longer be any wealth to give to the bottom 50%, but by then it will be too late! This was the same mantra preached by the Communists in the USSR and by Hitler in Nazi Germany. They promised that everyone would be treated the same but when they got power they eliminated everyone who got in their way. If you think that just because these socialists seem to "care" there will be a different result, you are being naive.
Remember, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely! By using class warfare, Obama and his liberal cohorts are playing the same card as the Communists and Nazis pulled. Comparison: Obama and his Occupiers hate the so-called 1%. The Soviet Communists hated the royalty and the upper classes. Hitler hated the Jews and used his brown shirts to intimidate and terrorize! (Don't think that the Occupiers would not do the same if they knew they could get away with it!) Obama pushed through socialized medicine. Hitler and the Nazis forced Bismark to socialize Germany's health care and the Soviets took over all portions of the industry. Hitler and the Communists both nationalized their car makers to create a war machine. Obama and his enviros are trying to force "Green" cars down an American public which really doesn't want them. (Look at the Chevy Volt and the lack of sales and the fact that GM is loosing tens of thousands with each one sold!)
If one does not learn from history we will be bound to repeat it! If you think that I am just being some kind of "right-wing wacko", just remember that even the Jews thought that they could "work with" Hitler and find a way to survive. We need to remember that we have the greatest country on earth and we can overcome the first four years of Obama's rule, but, I really do not think that we can survive another four.
The rich have been redistributing wealth for years. As increased productivity over the last 30 years has increased profits , the business owners have chosen to pay themselves (on average) an increasingly larger amount of the productivity increase and the workers a smaller share of their productivity gains. This has redistributed more wealth to the owners and less to the workers than prior to this period. It is a business owner's right to do this. Labor unions used to help keep the worker's share of productivity increases, but their power is waning.
However, the macroeconomic impact of shifting these rates of distribution has resulted in an oversupply of capital and and shortage of consumer demand. This has been amplified by the extra large tax cuts given to the rich over the last 30 years. Essentially, we have an economy where consumers cannot afford all that our companies can produce.
There is a balance that needs to be maintained in an economy. When the rich have 24% of the income as they do now(only 10% in 1980), they have a surplus of money that they have no real use for (0% 10 year T-bill rate). Meanwhile, consumers (these companies' workers) don't have enough money to spend (70% of our economy is consumer sales). So, millions of workers remain unemployed until consumer sales go up and rich begin investing more again.
And there's the catch. What is going to make consumer sales go up? Pay raises from the ownership class? More consumer debt? Tax cuts for rich people? A balanced budget?
PAY RAISES WOULD HELP. EASIER CREDIT WOULD HELP. Tax cuts for rich people won't increase sales, they already are sitting on a pile of money. A balanced budget, Nope. The "fiscal cliff" budget would put our economy into recession (CBO) and cost 700,000 jobs and that's just a step towards a balanced budget.
We need to improve sales to have greater job growth. If the rich would pay their workers 10% more tomorrow, the economy would improve, sales would go up (all companies taken together), and companies would start hiring more. The economic engine would be running faster.
So, when the rich complain about redistributing wealth, they can help our economy by taking some of the money they are sitting on and use it to pay their workers more. (voluntary redistribution of income). And if they won't do this how do we increase consumer sales?
A tax increase on the rich and continued tax cuts for the working class would be a start. But that pay raise would be better, wouldn't it?
Ozzy, I could not have said it better! The leftist establishment mass media (or lemmings as I affectionately call them) is in lock step with all of Obama's plans! Have you noticed a lack of the death totals from Afghanistan and Iraq since Obama's rise to power? Every day during Bush's term you saw these totals on page 1 or two of every major paper in this country! Now, it is ignored!
The Labor Department took millions of workers off of the rolls in order to reduce the reported unemployment rate to make their "chosen one" look better! The actual unemployment rate is above 11%! Would Bush have been able to get away with this? Please! Obama and his liberal handlers are liars and unrepentent socialists at heart!
Here we are once again faced with the same problem we have had for the last 2 decades. Two candidates and thier running mates that if we put all of the good from them into one person we wouldn't have someone good enough to be a pimple on the as of a good President. So sad that a nation of over 300 million people and we get these four clowns as our only hope.
A close look at Barack Obama's career reveals it has been even more mediocre than generally recognized.
Before being elected to the Illinois state Senate, Obama worked as a community organizer and a lawyer in Chicago.
In his memoir, Obama says being a community organizer taught him how to motivate the powerless and work the government to help them. His chief example is an effort to remove asbestos from Altgeld Gardens, an all-black public housing project on Chicago’s South Side.
But those who were involved in the effort say Obama played a minor role in working the problem and never accomplished his goal. A pre-existing group at Altgeld Gardens and a local newspaper, the Chicago Reporter, were working on the problem before Obama came on the scene, yet Obama does not mention them in his book, “Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”
“Just because someone writes it, doesn't make it true,” says Altgeld resident Hazel Johnson, who had been pushing for a cleanup of the cancer-producing substance years before Obama showed up.
Rep. Bobby L. Rush, D-Ill., says it was Johnson's work
, along with asbestos testing by the Chicago Reporter, that got Chicago officials interested in the issue. Rush, who launched an inquiry into the situation when he was a member of the Chicago City Council, says he is “offended” that Obama did not mention Johnson in his account.
After three years working as an organizer, Obama could say he helped obtain grants for a jobs program and got asbestos removed from some pipes in the project. But as the Los Angeles Times has noted, the “large-scale change that was needed at the 1,998-unit project was beyond his reach.” To this day, most of the asbestos remains in the apartments.
Fruitless though his efforts were, Obama devoted more than 100 pages to his experiences at Altgeld Gardens and surrounding areas. Michelle Obama has said his work as a community organizer helped him decide “how he would impact the world,” assisting people to improve their lives. Yet, in a revealing passage in his book, Obama wrote, “When classmates in college asked me just what it was that a community organizer did, I couldn’t answer them directly.”
After going to Harvard Law School, Obama returned to Chicago, where he briefly headed
a voter registration drive and then became a lawyer. While Obama’s campaign has touted him as a civil rights lawyer, “Over the nine years that Obama’s law license was active in Illinois, he never handled a trial and mostly worked in teams of lawyers who drew up briefs and contracts in a variety of cases,” according to David Mendell’s “Obama: From Promise To Power.”
“A search of all the cases in Cook County Circuit Court in which Obama made an appearance since he graduated from Harvard in 1991 shows: zero,” the article said.
Instead, his practice was “confined mainly to federal court in Chicago, where he made formal appearances in only five district court cases and another five in cases before the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals — a total of 10 cases in his legal career,” the paper said.
If Obama had virtually no impact as either a community organizer or as a lawyer, he was even more invisible in the state Senate and later in the U.S. Senate.
In both bodies, Obama had a reputation for voting “present,” thus avoiding controversial decisions that could be used against him later. In the U.S. Senate, he has missed more than one in five votes.
Only one of the measures Obama has sponsored as a U.S. senator was enacted: a bill to “promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo.”
The truth hurts Ozzy
Ahh, the mark of the Manchurian Candidate...too bad the media is in bed with him, it would be interesting to discover the 'real' Obama...if there is such a thing. Good post.
It isn't just the left, but the middle and a growing number of the right that really aren't watching what Mr. Obama is doing but rather, we are watching what the right is not doing and what they say they intend to do that is deciding. Do we want to let the right corporate wing incorporate the tea party completely into our government? NO!!!, Do we want to increase the taxes on the middle and lower classes? NO!!! Do we want to give up our job protections? NO!!!, Do we want to give up our environmental protections? NO!!! Do we want to give up our healthcare or what is left of it after the right wing has almost completely irradicated any benefit it used to give us? NO!!! Do we want to give up our socail security we've worked our butts off all these years in return for nothing? NO!!! Do we want to give up the medicare we have worked all our lives for and paid for to date? NO!!! Do we want to see the gay community forced back into the very closets the right wing has kept them in right up to this past year? NO!!! Do we want to strip women of the right to control their own bodies? NO!!! Do we want to take away many other rights that belong to differant sects of our community? NO!!! Do we want to let the religious right wing sector determine how we are going to live our lives based on their fanatical beliefs? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! It is time to simply get the republican party back their party and get the right wing fanatics out of our politics where they simply do not belong and whether it is with Mr. OBama, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton or Harry Reid or mickey mouse if that's what it takes, we simply cannot make the same mistake the Afghanians did with the Taliban in the 90s by letting them take over their countries politics and laws, we need to get these unpatriotic tea partiers out of our government now!
For more than three decades the wealth has been destributed upwards untill we now have a very large class of poor people and almost no middle class left. I don't give a crap about invented principles that says the rich are entitled. Why? If they can be entitled so can we all.
Anything can be legal or made to appear that way, but I'm not buying the fact that the fat cats, who apprently can never get enough, are entitled to corner the wealth based on laws they bought and paid for.
I see an anger I haven't seen since 911 and the Pearl Habor attack before that. Romney is so far out of line he'd better watch his ass.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
What amazes me more is that there has to be some old video telling us what we already know about Barrack Hussein.
He is a redistributionist!
More accurately he's a statist, most likely the worst in American history. And with Wilson, FDR, LBJ and to a degree GWB he's in some impressive company. It's no wonder since 2009 Ayn Rand's, Atlas Shrugged, has been selling off the shelves. TARP was straight from its pages. Now as the administration laments Obamacares impact on the inevitable doctor shortage, they never consider that the brightest and best are considering a career not based on orders coming from unelected bureaucrats.
Everything about this administration reeks of redistribution. From TARP, GM, Dodd-Frank, the $timulu$, to his multiple agenda's of pandering and division. The only goal is to spread the wealth around and create the nanny-state. The most embarrassing evidence is the childish cartoon fairy-tale, "The Life of Julia". This is the epitome of Liberal/Progressive womb-to-the-tomb indignity.
It's funny when you look at Barrack Hussein outside his emperors costume, telling the people of Ghana that the government shouldn't confiscate more than 20% of a company's income via taxation. But then he turns around, back here as emperor, and demands American small businesses pay almost 40% in taxes. Then he states it's time to "let the market work on its own", but only when he talks to China.
After the Greek elections Barrack Hussein acknowledged the dangers of class-warfare, increased taxation, government spending and the consequences of redistribution when addressing the results of the defeat of the pro-big government Syriza administration and the victory of the conservative New Democracy Party. But God forbid we would implement those policies here.
Redistribution runs through Barrack Husseins veins. Statism demands it, and he willingly obliges. The problem is, everyone who has tried it has summarily failed. Demonizing the productive to romanticize the unwashed masses is simply campaign fodder.
Romney understands the concept of “free-markets” and the successes they can bring to a person and a nation. Barrack Hussein only understands the concept of “free”. This will be the collapse of our great Republic if he is reelected.
This election is not a referendum about Barrack Hussein or Romney, it's about America. Do we want it to be dictated by the irrational and unachievable nonsense of social and economic justice or free-market principles that have created the greatest economy and standard of living in history?
The latter will lead to success, the former inevitably failure.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
shaak322
Hmmm, are you sure?
If it were that simple why didn’t the economy boom in 2007 when Bush raised the minimum wage from $5.15/hr. to $5.85/hr (12%)? Then again in 2008 from $5.85/hr to $6.55/hr (11%)? And once more in 2009 to our current $7.25/hr (10%)?
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
Simple, landlords and oil industries took 5$ of that 2.10$ an hour raise right off the top the very same way they always do so there is even less to spend on the local merchants.
Thomas Jefferson: "...Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise."
(In other words Jefferson was later called "Progressive taxation" The more you had the more you payed in taxes)
Benjamin Franklin: "no man ought to own more property than needed for his livelihood; the rest, by right, belonged to the state."
I wish Obama really was a re-distributor of wealth in this country, we need one badly. Unfortunately he's a fraud who gets a lot of help from the corporate media who help him in his deception as much as possible (Remember Obama let the tax cuts for the rich stay in place when he could have honored his campaign pledges and ended them in December of 2010)
From roughly 1933 to mid 1970's we had redistribution of wealth, a tax rate on the top income bracket of 90% during the 1950's (during the Republican Eisenhower administration) 70% until 1980's and before WWI during the Wilson Administration it was 70%.
These two periods, especially the last, had a lot to do with creating the large prosperous middle class the U.S. used to be famous for. (though Europe during this period was even more redistributionist).
Heres some more quotes from american history about....EEEEK!!....REDISTRIBUTION
Populist Louisiana Governor and presidential candidate Huey " The kingfish" Long speaks during the 1930's (no wonder they shot him):
Huey P. Long (1893-1935): "Unless you redistribute the wealth of a country into the hands of the people every fifty years, your country's got to go to ruination. Too many men running things that think they're smarter than the Lord."
Matthew Arnold (1822-1888): "Our inequality materializes our upper class, vulgarizes our middle class, brutalizes our lower class."
Theodore Roosevelt: "The absence of effective state, and, especially, national, restraint upon unfair money getting has tended to create a small class of enormously wealthy and economically powerful men, whose chief object is to hold and increase their power. The prime need is to change the conditions which enable these men to accumulate power which it is not for the general welfare that they should hold or exercise. We grudge no man a fortune which represents his own power and sagacity, when exercised with entire regard to the welfare of his fellows. Again, comrades over there, take the lesson from your own experience. Not only did you not grudge, but you gloried in the promotion of the great generals who gained their promotion by leading the army to victory. So it is with us. We grudge no man a fortune in civil life if it is honorably obtained and well used. It is not even enough that it should have been gained without doing damage to the community. We should permit it to be gained only so long as the gaining represents benefit to the community. This, I know, implies a policy of a far more active governmental interference with social and economic conditions in this country than we have yet had, but I think we have got to face the fact that such an increase in governmental control is now necessary."
Oops. Correction to my post above. Matthew Arnold was british.
What you're missing here is that the average, middle class American is not looking for or asking for a handout or for any kind of riches. We only want a fair chance to live a decent life unmolested by people like Romney and his ruthless drive to turn the U.S. into a plutocracy.
This is America, where we are entitled...I'll say it again: ENTITLED to a decent public education. We are entitled to keep the money we saved in our 401K's for retirement, not be robbed of it by greedy crooks on Wall Street. We are entitled to have the Social Security that we ourselves have already paid for. Our entitlements make us stronger as a people. The poverty and unemployment that have resulted from corporate greed have made us weak.
One of the main problems with American culture is that too many people have been blinded by the bling. They equate 'success' with money. Sorry, but that is not the way I was raised.
My parents embody 'success' to me. My mother grew up on a farm during the Great Depression. Her father died when she was five years old, and her widowed mother struggled to raise her children alone and keep the farm afloat. My mother attended school in a one-room schoolhouse until high school, when she moved into town and boarded with her aunt and uncle so she could graduate. She went to college with a grant from the U.S. Army.
My dad lost his father as a child too. He lived with his grandparents while his mother worked two jobs to support her children. Never have I known a more honest, decent man than my dad. Romney couldn't hold a candle to him.
You will never find two harder-working people than my parents. They never paid anyone to do anything they could do by themselves. They raised their children to be independent and self-reliant as well. In their elder years, are they to be insulted by a charlatan who doesn't know the meaning of hard work, deprivation and sacrifice? Not if I have anything to say about it, and this is what I say:
VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN NOVEMBER 6
The charlatan who doesn't know the meaning of hard work is Obama. Interesting that you state how your parents raised their children to be self-reliant and independent and yet you support Obama, the man who states that it is government that will take care of you.
mygirl... please provide a source for your allegation. Can you quote President Obama saying government will take care of us?
Of course not, because there is no such statement.
Get past the pigmentation.
VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN NOVEMBER 6
The man and his taxes behind the Bain curtain!
JimSpence,
Raising the minimum wage affects only lower wage workers. It did help spending in the economy but not nearly enough to counter other negative forces at work in the economy then such as rising gas prices and the financial meltdown.
Now that the financial market is stable and the housing market is in recovery, pay raises will help economy grow faster. And I am talking about reducing rich's share of profit due to productivity increases to historic levels to pay workers more without raising prices.
Jim Spence - What is a Real American?
Good stuff Arch Stanton - take bag of gold out of petty cash.
It's a desperate effort by the GOP to prey on their uneducated and ignorant base. It's exactly the same as all the 'marxist' or 'socialist' bull@!$%# they spew.
GOP members better not read the 5th Amendment of the US Constitution, I hear it contains wealth redistribution.
From the article above ....
Obama is heard to say, "the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution – because I actually believe in some redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody's got a shot."
Carney said the then-state senator had simply been calling for more effective city government, not the redistribution of wealth.
"more effective city government?"
Who is buying that crap ....
Who is preying on their ignorant base?
Typical GOPTP morons - first they cry over too much Federal Government involvement, then they cry and whine at efforts to give more control to city/state government. As Santorum claimed, the party will never have smart people. They can't even figure out that giving more money locally empowers their core belief of less Federal Government control.
But hey Bob - thanks for pointing out you folks can't figure what you are for or against.
Flip Flopping, it must be contagious. It's breaking out all over the GOP ranks. Thanks, Mitt! Now your whole party is rudderless.
The S.S. Weather Vane is going down and looks like it will take down GOTP with it.
"Ramming Speed!"
Hey RedDumAS,
The Obama quote above says ... "I actually believe in some redistribution."
Just how does "city" government redistribute wealth .... they set personal income tax rates, capital gains taxes ...
You guys can't be this dense ..... can you?
Because a local government doesn't have property taxes, sales taxes, or anything of that nature. Nope.
The GOP is very aware of what they believe in, they want to redistribute wealth from the middle class to the already wealthy, where it belongs.
"I don't worry about the very poor." Mitt Romney.
Of course, the middle class become poor and the poor can just DIE.
dirp
Yes, that's true.
The redistribution of wealth occured with the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003.
REPUBLICANS took the Middle class's hard-earned tax dollars and redistributed them to the wealthy.
Governor Romney wants more of the same.
Salud
dirp, you are so dense. The GOP does not want to hurt the middle class or any class. Mitt was total correct about the 47%. Yes the working part of the 47% paid federal taxes through withholding during the year. Then a large percentage of them received back in an IRS refund much more than they paid in. Now just how did that extra money that they got come about? It came from the top 1% of tax payers, the rich. Now just tell me that is not income redistributation. Obama wants more taxes from the rich to fund more government spending and give more money or goods (food stamps as example). Come on, nobody owes me a living, my parents told me so and I taught my kids that too. We take care of ourselves and work hard. We were taught that and it seems not many other parents teach their kids anything at all. I think they should eliminate all deductions and everyone and I mean everyone should pay 6 to 10% in federal taxes and be done. Why should the poor pay nothing? Not right, everyone needs to pay something. If a person can't afford to take care of his kids, then don't have them. Not my responsibility to support someone elses children. My husband and I had two children because that was all we could afford to raise. A lot of you on here may not support the constitution of this country but I studied it in school and I support it unlike Obama who put a total wierd spin on it and believes that Socialist Democracies of western Europe are the way to go. I want my country back from the progressives and socialists. Thank you for your time in reading this comment.
Yes, that's why Mitt's plan totally won't give tax breaks of $250,000 to those making over $3M a year, and totally won't raise the average middle class family's taxes by $2000. Nope.
Clint Eastwood is a DEMOCRAT at heart. He said "If someone is STUPID eough to ask me to talk at the Convention"
And that STUPID was MITT ROMNEY...WHAT an idiot!!!! Clint Eastwood talked during the Super Bowl about how Obama saved the CAR INDUSTRY...
The whole thing was a STUNT to sink ROMNEY!!!!!
Clearly, if the Romney campaign calls comments made in May of this year old, how can they try to deflect/distract/confuse with statements 14 years old and have any credibility?
These are simply not smart people.
Romney is such a liar, he brought this up with "a tape that just surfaced".
Yeah right, your campaign released something they had dug up from a long time ago.
This guy just can't be trusted.
Dari, it's not that we're afraid he wants to "hurt" anyone. It's the total, utter disdain the man has for people who didn't have wealthy parents to give them a leg up. It's the dismissive, arrogant, downright snotty way he stated that seniors, military, disabled, etc. don't want to pay their own way and feel that government owes them food, shelter, medical care.
A 14 year old video that was circulated in 2008 "just surfaced" LMAO. What a desperate, pitiful man. I almost feel sorry for him. Almost. But I once heard a quote "never feel sorry for a man who owns his own jet airplane" Ryan is probably wondering "what did I get myself into?" As far as "redistribution of wealth" goes' if you are a father with kids, you "redistribute the wealth" DAILY. If you pay your bills, you "redistribute the wealth" monthly. What a joke and a non- issue to those with a rational mind. But we are talking about Teapublicans and Obama haters as well as the stone cold southern redneck racists who want Romney in the "Whites (only) House"!!
Republicans are all for the redistribution of wealth too. They just want to take it from the poor and give it to the rich.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 if you don't want the opposite of robinhood
Romney 1040
IMHO - You're right, Romney does not ignore laws and attempt to buy the favor of many with other peoples money, Obama does.
Robin Hood was a thief, not a leader.
"You know, we've only owned our home for the last few years. He was a refugee from Mexico. He was on welfare relief for the first years of his life," Lenore Romney responds.... Too bad Mitt is not as endearing as his little old mother was. As it stands Mitt is just an affront to rational people who actually care about America.
(Note from article...Born to American parents in Mexico, George Romney's family fled the Mexican revolution for the United States in 1912.)
Read more:-Romneys-mom-Lenore-on-how-her-husband-received-welfare-relief
didn't hear the news i imagine. well...better read this...obamacare taxes are coming due 2000.00 out of pocket. guess that shows the true obama. he sure is kicking the middle class in the teeth.
Xabre, its not BS, redistibuting wealth is a basic tenant of socialism.
JS ... paying your bills and taking care of your family is SELF RELIANCE borne from the fruits of your own labor. Redistributing wealth takes from the fruits of my labor and GIVES it to someone else for them to enjoy the fruits of MY labor. Your example had zero to do with redistributing wealth.
As BO said in Chicago.... at some point you've made enough. Who is he to tell me at what point i or anyone makes enough. This is no joke at all and a VERY unamerican idea.
This is what redistribution, Republican style, looks like:
CBO | Trends in the Distribution of Income
So what are you liberals telling us? That we shouldn't listen to what obama says? Is that because what Obama says are lies?! Thanks for confirming what we already knew. Unfortunately for you libs, we do believe what Barry says in this video. It's who he is and always will be: a MARXIST.
Also, this one:
Income Gaps Between Very Rich and Everyone Else More Than ...
Yes we must redistribute the wealth . The rich shouldn't have so much. Just make sure you redistribute it to Americans only, no other country's poor. That wouldn't be really fair, as they deserve to suffer. Just like we fought wars where communism threatened because we wanted them to be free and not because we wouldn't feel secure if they were communists. Just like we helped Afghanistan wage war against Russia, but wouldn't give them any money for schools or anything after they drove Russia out. We are such altruistic people. Always thinking about someone else. The U.S. makes up 5% of the world's population, yet owns 27% of the world's wealth. That sounds fair to me.
When you buy bread at a store you are "redistributing wealth". It's just a term used by right wingers to scare the rich and upper middle class that they are going to be "robbed".
If the bank bailout had instead went to people who could then pay off their mortgages and pay off debt, the rich would end up with the money in the end anyway. But it's far more lucrative to pay off the bad debt the banks hold and then allow them to repossess the houses they sold so they can do it all over again and make even more money.
The system is rigged.
BigATC -Bob-Too damn many no's: Neither of you appear to know your ass from a whorehouse door knob relative to our capitalistic system. Socialism is the "EQUAL DISTRIBUTION of WEALTH"by the state to the generators of that wealth. Capitalism is both the DISTRIBUTION and REDISTRIBUTION of wealth generated by the efforts and ingenuity of free people under prescribed tenets of, in our case, a representative government. In China, Its much the same, yet, under a Totalitarian government, which is communistic, but not very socialistic. You may think you don't like a system of wealth redistribution, but, if you're citizens of this country, and have bought or sold, you've both participated in such a system. This is a gwaddamn silly, straw man argument being mounted by a gwaddamn pissy g o p political party candidate. Won't fly. Romney and Ryan keep this up and they'll both end up strangling themselves on bullsh^t before the election.
Xabre, I really think that if you look at the Republican base you will find that they are, as a rule, more highly educated than the Democratic base! Just because some Republicans are religious you paint them as "uneducated" and the village idiots! Many Democrats are just there to get as much as they can get from their elected representatives. The day has come where the producers in this country have come together to say "no more"! I really think that just because the liberal intelligensia think that they are smarter than anyone else in this world and they deserve "more" in pensions and benefits than the "pee ons" in fly-over country! Just look at the teachers in Chicago who expect more and more even though the rest of us have to live with less every day!
@Dan M-1100664#2.26:Highly educated huh? Maybe in the realms of delusion, superstition, paranoia, dishonesty, and all other generalized foolishness. In fact, American republicans, if measured, would top the worlds crop of the most lauded lunatics.
That's rich. If the republicans do it it's a "desperate effort". When the dems do it it's politics as usual.
Chef--in your comment
What exactly is the meaning of "it"
Are you talking about the APPLES of Romney who is trying to become the leader of the FREE WORLD saying less than 15 weeks ago - that 47% of this UNITED STATES OF AMERICA consider themselves victims and feel entitled compared to the ORANGES of an almost 15 year old statement made by a STATE senator involving STATE policies?
Because that is desparate!!!
BethanyB, Reading is NOT your strong suit is it ? The article is about Obama wanting to redistribute the wealth and there are tapes of him admitting that. Besides, Obama also mentioned redistribution of wealth when he ran for President the last time.
But I guess you were too wrapped up in the warm, little fuzzies of something vague like "Hope and Change" to realize he was waging war on all who have earned their wealth, big or small, and lived their lives WITHIN their incomes !
jim: reading is NOT your strong suit, then state Senator Obama was (in the same sentence) talking about redistribution of government resources, not wealth of individuals.
The only people talking about redistribution of wealth have been the GOP, taking benefits from seniors and increasing taxes for the middle class and giving tax cuts to the rich. You know, Romneyhood.
Drip, Apparently you were asleep or taking some serious "hits" off the bong when Obama told "joe the Plumber" the same thing about 4 years ago.
Obama was talking about redistribution of wealth, you are merely trying DESPERATELY to Spin the reality of his leftist, extreme ideology. Under Obama's vision, you raise the taxes on all you can and redistribute to those who do not have as much. Obama is merely a modern-day ROBBING HOOD !
Think, dirp, think!!!!!
Where does the government, any government, obtain "resources" to redistribute? From we the people.
And how does government obtain said "resources?" By taxing the daylights out of we the people (and the companies we own & operate).
And how do we earn those "resources" that we the people are to be taxed upon? By working for a living.
And to whom are those "resources" to be distributed? The people who sit on their butts and don't work(and I don't mean people who have worked for 40+ years and want to enjoy their idle senior years).
And when there are no more "resources" because all the "resources" have been redistributed, where does the government obtain more "resources?" Duh-oh!!!!! At that point the daisy chain breaks because no one works to generate "resources." We are all on the government dole! (For a case study, see the PIIGS countries and the
painagony those people are having to go through because the government ran out of "resources" and people to tax.) (For another case study, see the current exodus of wealthy from France to Belgium that has occurred since the new SOCIALIST president announced that the tax rate on the wealthy would be 75% with NO deductions.)Think, dirp, think!!!!!
The Koch Brotehrs and Addelson need to ask Mitt Romney for a REFUND. HE CERTAINLY CAN AFFORD TO PAY THEM BACK!!!!
THey are looking stupidier than him for payiing for his Campaign, after all he is JUST ANOTHER LUNATIC THAT HANGED HIMSELF, JUST LIKE THE OTHERS; PALIN, BACHMAN, SANTORUM, CAIN, ETC. ETC.
Hey republicans want to redistribute wealth too. It's just that the Democrats want to help the poor and to get the rich to pay at least the same as the middle class. The republicans want to take it from the middle class and poor and give it to the rich.
Desperate republicans want their ultra rich buddies to have more. I can see that. I have something the rich will never have, ENOUGH.
Taxing the workers at a higher percentage than the rich, giving the rich and corporations loopholes to reduce their taxable amount which working people do not get, giving taxpayer money as subsidies to corporations like the oil companies who are already making huge profits. That's just peach keen, hunky dory? Not redistribution of the wealth in any way shape of form???
I guess if it's just the wealthy getting wealthier while the middle class waits for a little trickle down?
imho - "The republicans want to take it from the middle class and poor and give it to the rich."
Really? Name an actual example of that?
Perhaps you missed the trillions in taxpayer-funded "stimulus" that went straight to Wall Street and the union bosses, or the creation of "too big to fail" to keep mammoth corporations and their greedy incompetent executives afloat.... or how Obama's favorite billionaire and propagandist GE CEO Jeff Immelt who not only was given a position WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENT, his company didn't have to pay any taxes last year.
When dealing with politicians you should know by now to look at their actions instead of believing their words... you have failed miserably at that.
Bob, thinking isn't anything the democrats have mastered yet
Redistribution, Republican style:
CBO | Trends in the Distribution of Income
and this one:
Income Gaps Between Very Rich and Everyone Else More Than ...
Pjam you gave an example of "That" yourself with Bushie's Bank Bail out he gave money to Rich bankers.....DOH!
You nuts can't argue very well without a numbered list given out by the GOP through their talking points machine....
Read Obama's book "The Dreams of my Father" If there is nothing to defend about his view on redistribution, then why defend it? He talks about redistribution all the time(i.e. fairness).
George Romney released 12 years worth of tax returns to the American people when he ran for president. Since then, presidential candidates -- Republicans and Democrats -- have followed his lead and released multiple tax records for public scrutiny.
All presidential candidates, except one. Mitt Romney has only released one year of records after persistent pressure. It raises the question: What does Mitt Romney have to hide?
Romney has some explaining to do: Romney admits he has huge amounts of money in offshore bank
accounts -- but won't say how much money, how many accounts, or where they all
are
Vanity Fair reports that Romney set up shell companies in Bermuda and tax shields in the Cayman Islands and Swiss Bank accounts
Romney's campaign said it was "unseemly and disgusting" for people to scrutinize his tax returns and business holdings
Unseemly? Disgusting? It's the same thing every presidential candidate has done since 1968. Everyone except Mitt Romney. So, we have to ask:
What's he hiding?
THAT HE IS A TAX EVADING THIEF?
Immelt's Company ( GE ) didn't pay taxes because of GOP policy....Not Obama's policy...
@ozzy1957: Your retorts are weak and rather silly. Course most republican retorts are.
This is funnier...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pat+paulsen+for+president&oq=pat+paulsen&gs_l=youtube-reduced.1.0.0l4.163973.168187.0.171127.11.7.0.4.4.0.56.345.7.7.0...0.0...1ac.1.oVFbCDnULsQ
and this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0-FWweJLRc
and this
http://zvbxrpl.blogspot.com/2008/03/wkrp-episode-carlson-for-president.html
Romney made fun of Jimmy Carter. THE GRANDSON OF JIMMY CARTER WAS THE ONE WHO LEAKED THE VIDEO.
PAY BACK TIME A*****E
Irespond - You mean it was a petty act of revenge by someone who was incapable of behaving like an adult? Everyone already knows that, the grandson openly admitted it was personal and otherwise of no importance.
One can understand how the grandson feels though, everyone makes fun of Carter and refers to him as a bad president but with every passing day of Obama in the White House Carter looks better and better... its no wonder the poor guy would attempt to make his grandfather, and therefor himself, more respectable by keeping Obama in office.
Pjam-----There you go back on message, which is better for you......Rush Limpballs said the same thing on his show..
When you nuts go it alone you sound even dumber.....
Carter is a stud. Plain and simple. If we had kept with his vision for energy independence, imagine where we'd be today.
God man both parties believe in redistribution, the GOP for the rich and the Dems for the people. It is just a matter of who you are going to support the rich or yourself. It should be a no brainer...
Go to a bank on welfare day and watch all the people with their little debit cards waiting for free money.
Oh, sorry, maybe YOU are the 1 out of 6 in poverty.
jw101, it's easy to join them, but then you would need to suffer their misery too. It's a no brainer but your lack of brains seem to still be in the way.
Even if it happened that way, the money isn't free. The money comes from a system that we have all paid into at one point or another. Not from the 'rich'. The desire is that the money gets fairly distributed among those who need it as was originally intended.
imho - "it's easy to join them"
Gee, really? You mean dropping out of high school and breeding isn't difficult?
It's not easy making yourself into a success.... and look at what Democrats consider worth rewarding and who deserves to be penalized. It doesn't take a genius to see the direct connection with America's hastening decline.
..and what day would that be?
Mitt - just admit you're clueless - just say it, "I don't understand people who aren't millionaires, don't have multiple vehicles, multiple homes, hide money in oversea bank accounts, etc."
This whole video thing from 1998 reminds me of somebody getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar and trying to point to someone else to take the blame. Get over yourself, Mr. Romney, most Americans have.
"trying to point to someone else to take the blame."
Clearly you have him confused with Obama.
Unlike Obama Romney stands by his words, its what people with backbones and integrity do. It's no surprise liberals can't cope with a politician pointing out real problems to them instead of pretending everything is just fine while it gets worse.
@pjam09: I really shouldn't, but gwaddammit!, I just can't help it! "pjam": Do you have wire nailed to you? Maybe a mailbox where humans heads normally are? Waaaa,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, um, ahhhh. Sorry "pjam", but I've been scanning your incoherent dribble for 2 years now, and it never changes. Waaa,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ummm, ahhh, ahem.
pjam,
You need to check out: http://www.RomneyFlop.com - speaking of 'stands by his words'....LOL
Yes indeed ! Showing the President espousing his beliefs, in his very own words, is truly heinous !
How is Obama showing his real desires "desperate" ? Was he lying then, or is he lying now ??
There are many more possible film clips possible ... showing Obama saying one thing, and doing the opposite. Obama contradicting Obama is a gold mine yet to be fully explored !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama does not run on his record. He just goes around ripping apart Romney. THAT'S desperation!
But his record is so crappy ... why would he choose to run on massive increase in the national debt with no budgets, numerous lawsuits against various states, high unemployment that has never been below where it was when he came into office, massive government growth through passage of Obamacare which controls 1/6 of our economy, and "shovel-ready jobs" that weren't ?
Then there is the massive union pension bailout before GM filed for bankruptcy anyway, the Fast and Furious program where he invoked executive privilege to hide the truth, bad loans exceeding $535 to green companies who were giving him campaign contributions and the failed "Stimulus" that stimulated nothing more than the pockets of his supporters.
Why would Obama NOT want to run on that ?????????????????????????
and what was Romneys record? Borrowed from the US Gov't to save the Olympics...took all the computers after being Gov of Mass so no one could see what a terrible job he did...We haven't figured when he retired retroactively from Bain..(maybe he still works for them..and of course he won't answer any questions Bain) Won't show even 5 years worth of tax returns..(even though all his possible vp picks had to)....and what are his plans for the future.....he'll let you know AFTER the election....
GNOP can't stand facts...THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
C'mon Mythe..show us the 1040's....What ARE you hiding@??
Paul, I think all the $7 Starbucks lattes are causing you harm. Romney has been letting you know what his plans are; you just don't listen.
Cmon Jim give it a rest already. Are you really Rush Limbaugh?? LOL. Because you are desperately spinning that propoganda so fast. Whoop there it is... LOL. Whoop there it is. LOL. President Obama could say that it is sunny, warm and not a cloud in the sky. And you, would argue that fact. Just because of his ______? Please fill in the blank, I am so tired of the lame petty excuses that all of you GOP, tea party obstructionists are using simply because you don't like his _____?? Please fill in the blank. It is so blatant that everyone knows what the answer truly is.
No, Pennybrain. I am a Certified Public Accountant working in private industry who UNDEDRSTANDS FINANCIAL MATTERS ... unlike yourself ! I have 3 children and worry about them carrying on their backs the tremendous financial load that Obama is placing upon them because he does not have the common sense or the ball$ to try and have any kind of budget .... and govern within our country's income !
Glad to see you could contribute nothing of relevance other than a weak attempt to disparage my remarks.
I really don't understand what the fuss is all about. Ok, in 1998 Obama said something that is being presently held against him. Now, let's go back to 1998 and let's listen to Romney. Wasn't he for choice as conserns abortion at that time http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/222htyos.asp, wasn't he for the mandate as concerns health insurance, hell - here is a list of things he was for, before he changed his mind. http://mittromneysflipflops.com/. I believe that in a war of reflection in which we go back in time and try to get someone on his/her past words - be careful. Romney has changed his mind more times than any modern candidate.
Obama was for gay rights before he was against them .... before he favored them again.
Obama, while in the Senate declared that no President had the right to enter the U.S. into a war where our national security interests were not at risk .... WITHOUT congressional approval. Then, of course, Obama makes a decision to attack Libya, where our national security interests were NOT at risk with about $1 billion in Crusise missiles. How's that workin for you after our ambassador gets murdered and the White House ignored warnings ?
Obama declared he would have Gitmo closed within a short time of his election ... Gitmo is still open.
Obama lambasted then-President Bush for raising the debt ceiling .... declaring it would be on the backs of our children for years to come. Since becoming President, the national debt has risen MORE in Obama's 3.8 years than the total of all 8 years under Bush.
Obama said there were thousands of "shovel-ready jobs" that would be funded by "The Stimulus" ... only to later laugh about it and say the jobs were not so shovel-ready.
Obama declared the health care meetings would be televised on C-Span ... only to see the Democrats close the doors to ALL Republicans while the Dems were bribing other Dems with the Cornhusker kickback, the Louisiana "purchase" of Mary Landrieu's "integrity" and the outright lies STUPID STUPAK swallowed.
Obama declared it would be wrong to raise taxes while our country was in recession ... only now he wants to raise taxes and the recession is still here.
OBAMA CONTRADICTING OBAMA ........ a GOLD MINE OF FLIP-FLOPS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are the same fools that voted Bush into office but now you think Obama is our saviour
After this election, there will be so many poor people on food stamps and illegal immigrants with free citizenship, you will NEVER have another opportunity to get the government out of your lives. Govt will OWN you, tell you where you can work, which doctor to see and ya'll better get bilingual REAL soon
'
FOOLS
That is probably how the American Indians and Mexicans felt when the immigrants started to show up from Europe. We are all immigrants when you go back far enough.
LOL....How the hell did you come up with that stupidity? The same people who voted for Bush, voted for Obama?
Is this still Earth?
OBAMA/BIDEN....2012!!!!
martin - "That is probably how the American Indians and Mexicans felt when the immigrants started to show up from Europe"
Of course it is... and how did that work out for them? Are you too dense to learn from history?
Mitt Flip Flop Romney, the one time governor of Mass. Has supported Abortion, Gay Rights, Gun Control, Stem Cell Research and has reverse himself on all of these issues.
He took both sides on the financial bailout, the stimulus bill, the auto loan package;
His biggest Flip-Flop of all Health Care Reform The national Law is modeled on the one that he championed as governor in Mass that requires every citizen to have health insurance. Now he has Flipped-Flopped Mr. Flop has taken a hard slide to the right pandering to the tea party.
Mitt Flip-Flop Romney, a wishy-washy, flip flopping Politician without any core convictions, principals or believes a man who will say or do anything to get elected telling one crowd one thing and another crowd another.
You simply can’t trust this guy to tell you the truth.
Are you a student needing government help for college?
Mitt Romney doesn't want to be your president. He thinks you're a taker.
Apparently he must really hate Paul Ryan then.
I'm starting to think Romney has a man-crush on Ryan's 'guns'. While not as built-up as Arnies, they do make for a great VP photo op (NOT).
More irrelevant "libbie chat room talk" from RedDevPS ... oops, it looks like you left out a vowel between the "P" and the "S" !
Jim-
For someone working so hard to keep your three kids clothed and fed, you sure do spend a lot of time on this blog. Does your boss know about this?
My job gets done. I save the company money. I spend considerably LESS time than the PAID Obama trolls such as Feasty the redhead.
As usual, you avoid the subject and try to turn the focus to me .... typical liberal ploy by an Obamabot !
Are you a student who doesn't want the government to be your only option for student loans? Obama doesn't want to be your president. He thinks only the government should give student loans and now thanks to the financial reform package that vision is a reality.
P.S. Obama also doubled the interest rate on unsubsidized loans, and it is now almost double the prime rate.
Soetoro/Biden 2012
steveR - "Are you a student needing government help for college?
Mitt Romney doesn't want to be your president. He thinks you're a taker"
HaHa, hilarious. You've got to love it when liberals attempt to make a point out of hypothetical conjecture.
How a bout a bit of REALITY?
Are you a student or college graduate with a ton of debt and yet no job?
Obama is your president.
Yes, because it's all Obama's fault... You do know U.S. history didn't start in 2009 right?
There reports that Romney's fundraising video may be missing one to two minutes surrounding the 47% comments.
Mr. Carney, anyone who believes anything you say is a mental case. You and the folks you work for continued to say that the Libya attack was response to some stupid video clip. The evidence has proven otherwise so now you imply that it's possible it was planned. In the old days when there were only three news networks you could get away with the lies. Those days are long gone you weasel!
Right. Now it's the lame stream media cutting out 2 mins of the tape. Sure. And if that were the case - why didn't Romney defend himself by saying that? Why did he simply double down on everything he said.
Quite the contrary, mhrjhn, Romney seems pretty proud of his comments as he said them.
Guess he thinks Nixon's Sec' y Rosemary Woods made those recordings....(18 minutes of silence...NOT)..
GNOP can't stand facts...THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
C'mon Mythe..show us the 1040's...What ARE you hiding @??
The left can't handle the truth. The truth is that 47% of working people don't pay federal income tax. The truth is that Romney's planned tax cuts will not resonate with them because they already don't pay. They are likely the one's who will vote for Obama! And yes, there is a victim-hood mentality being perpetuated by Obama and the democrats! That's why Obama always talks about leveling the playing field.
mhrjhn,
the 47% is mostly made up of senior citizens on social security, military personnel, and the working lower class - which one would you like to call having a 'victim-hood mentality'?
Many on social security still payfederal income taxes, depending on their total taxable income. So they would not be part of the 47%.
@Maga: How many of those lower working class people have internet service and cable and cell phones? How many of those military personnel get the GI bill, free housing and meal plan, etc. in addition to their salaries, plus lots of additional benefits? How many of those senior citizens are still healthy enough to work, especially in our more service-oriented economy? Everyone who has an income should pay some income tax, even if it's only a couple hundred dollars.
@argumentativebufair:
In other words, the poor are never poor enough for you Republicans. They should not have any cell phones, any internet access, any technology for that matter; they should never be able to enjoy a cold beer on a warm summer day; they should never be allowed to have any relief from their poverty unless they work-- even if they are disabled. Indeed, perhaps they should not qualify for help of any kind unless they are living in a cardboard box?
You also don't seem to get it that some people had computers, had cell phones, and had other luxuries before losing their jobs, and that they are hanging on to these services by a thread and using them to look for work, to contact prospective employers for interviews, and to do other necessary tasks toward pulling themselves out of the gutter. Your disparaging stereotypes sicken me. You Republicans need to be dethroned by the 47% that you seem to think have lost their citizenship and civil rights simply because they are poor. And that's just what they'll do in the next election!
To anyone that thinks this election is now a slam-dunk Obama victory, just remember GW Bush was elected, twice. Never underestimate the huge swath of ignorant, low-information, gullible voters in this country.
Intelligent people, please get to the polls in November to ensure an Obama landslide.
If you have to encourage them to get to the polls, they are not intelligent people. If they don't care enough about issues to vote every year, they should not be voting.
But don't worry, there are enough people who will vote for him because of his race to ensure a victory.
gravis - "Never underestimate the huge swath of ignorant, low-information, gullible voters in this country."
2008 made that abundantly clear, we are still paying for it.
2010 you mean? Thought so.
An intelligent person would NEVER vote for Obama once...let alone twice.
It is amazing anyone would vote for the President. We need to focus more on the educational system in America.
Wow - more ancient tapes "creatively edited" to make Obama look scary? If this isn't desperate, I don't know what is. The last attack ads I saw used 2007-2008 edited clips, now 1998??
And it's so heavily edited it reminds me of that The Simpsons episode "Rock Bottom" where Homer is villified by the creative editing of a "news" show interview. Sound familiar?? Ahem, Republican SuperPacs and Fox "News" I'm looking at you...
Oh heck, if you heard him in person you would say the teleprompter edited it for him !
Joe the Plumber knows what Obama said.
newsgirl24, Carney and NBC says there edited. Carney is paid to lie and NBC has been caught editing tapes to push an agenda. I don't believe anything they say.
Like the tape of Obama talking about the infrastructure and saying people who build businesses didn't build the infrastructure. Of course it got edited down to "You didn't build that" and they made an entire convention out of it. I'm guessing their attention span is only about three seconds.
Huh - Obama is lucky the comment got edited down, his attempted justification for it was even more condescending.
This is something the President has been trying to focus on since he's been office gbob2!!! So you're kind of way off when you say we need to focus on the educational system because the President has been trying to do just that!!! By the way, with the cuts in student loans pell grants, and training programs that Republicans want to do it's a slap in the face that they keep talking about it as if they're trying to help the American people become more educated.
It is amazing anyone would vote for the Romney. We need to focus more on the educational system in America.
Would that education include a basic course in economics that discussed ongoing, annual deficits of $1.3 trillion a year to $1.7 trillion per year ? Are you "educated" enough to realize that the U.S. charge card DOES HAVE A CREDIT LIMIT ? Or are you a naive Obambot who never faces economic reality ?
Jim, even an education couldn't help you realize that Romney's proposals will increase the annual deficit by over $600 billion.
Prove it. Put the numbers to the paper.
Obama has proved he would rather "govern" without a budget. But a BUDGET is one on those "legally required", bothersome things that gets in his way so he submits unrealistic budget proposals that have yet to get 1 SINGLE VOTE from his own party !
If you actually had a single clue on how the budget works, you'd know the the WH Budget Proposal is merely a suggestion. Congress drafts their own Budget Resolutions and votes on them.
You really need an education.
Xabre,
Jim says he is a CPA concerned about how his three kids will survive in the coming economic chaos. You know, the one the wingers have been forecasting since 1932. As for his expertise with budgets, he needs to educate me on his budgeting process which apparently only has one side to the ledger. As you know, Republicans can build a budget with no revenue side, as Grover will see they're cast into the lake of fire if they even raise the subject.
And to Jim himself; for someone who is so concerned about providing for your kids, you sure do seem to spend a lot of time on this blog. Does your boss know about this?
The education system is working fine, the poorest neighborhoods in the big cities, have the worst standardized test scores. They also vote Obama and that proves that idiots will vote for candidates that are proven failures. Every year they release data showing how poorly African Americana nd Hispanic students are doing compared to white students, this year african american student will vote 99% for Obama, so I guess that blows a hole in your getting intelligent people to the polls to prevent a Romney win. Go with your proven strategy of keeping them in the dark so they vote democrat.
All Presidents prior to Barack Hussein Obama have had budgets passed ... sometimes the negotiating was tough, but they got the job done. Barack Hussein Obama actually chooses NOT to be restricted by a budget and that is why his own Democratic Party has never voted for any of his silly proposals.
dksouthern, Truly you DO need an education. Rule #1. When income is down, you reduce expenses.
Obama has refused to cut anything of superfluos waste like the GSA, the ineffective education, foreign aid, government GIVEAWAYS for failed "green" iniatiatives ... other than the military. Obama wants to "GUT" the military and render them weak and ineffective. Why do you think the radical muslims are getting so sggressive ? They "SMELL" the growing weakness in our military under Obama's failed leadership.
Jim - BZZZZZZT!!! Wrong! The purpose of government isn't to make money. At best government should be a break even proposition. Obviously missed that part when you got your degree. Sometimes the government needs to inject funds to get things moving, that was what the stimulus was about. But it doesn't do much good when the money is left sitting in banks. Now let's look at a retail business. Our hypothetical business is losing money.... Badly. Sometimes even in a business you need to spend money to buy new stock or redecorate or if it's manufacturing your may need to retool. It's called 'investment' and here's a hint for you, you can often write it off your taxes! In business if you use just belt-tightening as a strategy your competition sails right past you. So you're wrong on that side as well. You sure you're a CPA?
Oh! And there it is... the invocation of the middle name: Hussein. As if that were a damning thing in and of itself. The damning issue really being that jim believes that by name alone The President is in league with "The Muslims". Muslims are not our enemy. Radical idealists are. Be they of any religion, those who believe they are righteous in the killing of others for their beliefs are dangerous fools.
How can you say Obama wants to gut the military and make them weak and ineffective? As "ineffective" as they were when they took down Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein?
I have a video of Obama when he was one year old, and I swear he has a teleprompter attached to his crib. I think I'll post it on youtube.
Romney/Ryan 2012
A one year old who can read! I say that proves what a smart guy our president is!
Obama/Biden 2012
Hillary 2016
Wonder if it was one of the TWO teleprompters Romney used at the convention. But of course he needed two, he needed to look at two different feeds and decide what his principles were at that moment. Kind of like Palin having to write her core values on her hands.
Sueb1 - Who said he was reading?
Nice of you to instantly display that "Obama is the messiah" mindset that liberal are famous for though.
P.S.
Would having a teleprompter make him a spoiled rich kid born into a world of privilege who couldn't possibly relate to Americans?
Romney's silver spoon kept damaging his crib teleprompter ...
I think I will start up a business on how Americans can emigrate to other countries...
Where is John Galt?
I know, use that old "meet without pre-conditions" thing again.
Mitt REALLY needs a Joe The Plumber right now, obvious as it would be, to see that.
Oh yeah, that'll do it.
Problem with women voters? "Ann talks to lots of women and reports back to me on what they think."
Another Joe the Plumber? Didn't help McCain. And, Well, Joe's not doing so well running for Congress with his "build the damn fence and start shootin'" platform. But he does have the endorsement of nut job Allen "there are 80 Communists in the Democratic Congress" West (R-FL). Good luck with that!
What I meant was: he needs a major distraction right about now, and I'm very concerned as to what that might be.
Because it has to be in the works.
Where Are The Jobs???
Simple. They're all frozen along with the jobs bills that are languishing in the bowels of the GOP "jobs morgue". All these bills, that will help Americans get back to work, run against the purpose of the Norquist/Rove "Benedict Arnold" style politics. Sure, these bills would really improve the economy, but the collateral damage that would be caused to the power brokers that control the US congress would simply be too great. This must not Happen before the national elections in November.
But if the American people will endure pain for just a little longer, and vote for their "henchmen" (ie, Romney/Ryan), they promise to trickle-down a little economics. But don't hold your breath.
The plight of each attempt to improve the economy can be traced to the obstructionism of these few greedy, power-obsessed individuals. They use fear, labelled as a mutual ideology, to control the members of their political party. Grover Norquist knows that if you give a strong laxative to someone with a bad
cough, in a very short period of time, they'll be "afraid" to cough. He is able to apply this same tactic to 259 GOP house and senate members with his "pledge". They are too "afraid" to vote without his nod.
In early 2009, closely following the inauguration of President Obama, we saw the "new" political teaparty form. These new "concerned" citizens arose almost out of an eight year "coma", and decided the country needed to be taken back from something. They didn't know from "what" yet, until they received more
instructions. The purpetrators who organized this "new" group could never tell you who they "really" were.
For decades, our political party system had a "fringe element" that attached itself to whatever party more closely matched their ideology. With the 2008 meltdown of GOP politics, from a disasterous economic policy, the republican party had to bring up these reserves and "give them a microphone". They were not really republicans, or disgrunted democrats. Karl Rove had use for these people as we would witness.
In January of 2010, SCOTUS gave us their controversial "Citizens United" ruling, which allowed huge donations to the election process, without disclosure. It also established corporations as "people". In the 2010 midterm elections, running on a jobs, jobs, jobs platform, and with huge financial input (cue citizens united ), a large number of this fringe group was elected to office in both the house and senate.
When this "new" group of legislators took office in Jan. 2011, all progress in the nation's economic recovery, magically seemed to slow to a crawl. So who are these "legislators"? They vote exactly as conservatives. However, their only accomplishments have dealt with social issues. They seem hell-bent on blocking anything/everything resembling economic progress. They really seem to prioritize only on repealing or restricting women's rights, instead of compromising on jobs or the economy. Is this a new "Utertarian" wing of the republican party?
With the citizens united ruling, we had only to wait for the first GOP candidate for president to repeat the words: "corporations are people, my friend", and we would know exactly who the first candidate of "The monied interest" groups would be. Mitt Romney was catapulted to the front runner status. They needed a
CEO and not a statesman. With citizens united, money decides who the selected candidate will be. Unfortunately, for them, President Obama was elected by the people and is not their team player for the monied groups. If citizens united is not repealed, all future candidates will be corporate choices.
With the 2012 general elections pending, we are given a choice between moving forward with President Obama, and a democratic process, or choosing another failed attemt at corporate, trickle-down economics by a corporate lackey.
Below is the link to the american jobs act of 2011. It lies in state in the GOP jobs morgue. visiting hours are 24/7.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr1745
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I didn't know you libs started referring to Harry Reid's a$$ as the "jobs morgue".
If you will go to the Senate chambers, physically lift up Harry Reid's a$$ (yes, I know it will be gross), you will find a plethora of bills passed by the House that Harry Reid has his "butt-prints" upon.
Remember, genius ... the Constitution gives legislative power to the Congress. It is the President's job to see to it that the laws that have been passed are carried out. Obama enforces only the laws he chooses to enforce, ignores others, and/or makes executive orders to skirt those which do not meet his extreme left-wing social ideology ! Obama has ALL the instincts of a dictator !!
DOES THE WORD FILIBUSTER MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU. I would look under Mitch McConnell's skirt to find all of the bills that never got to the floor because he just didn't want to pass them and he wanted President Obama to fail. HOW ABOUT THE WORD OBSTRUCTIONIST. Is that a word that you are familiar with.
Filibuster: Defined as the use of irregular or obstructive tactics by a member of a legislative assembly to prevent the adoption of a measure generally favored or to force a decision against the will of the majority. to impede legislation by irregular or obstructive tactics, especially by making long speeches.
STUPIDITY is to be obstructed ! That is why all the Republicans were elected in November, 2010 ... because the majority of U.S. citiizens saw the totally reckless behavior of the Democrats and wanted it to stop !
Did the reality of those elections escape you ? The Republicans and the Tea Party candidates were elected to stop his government takeovers and because the majority of U.S. citizens reacted very negatively to the contrived political deception in ramming through Obamacare !!
Even Obama said "We got shellacked". Did you ever, ever figure it out .... yet ???????
STUPIDITY is to be obstructed ! That is why all the Republicans were elected in November, 2010 ... because the majority of U.S. citiizens saw the totally reckless behavior of the Democrats and wanted it to stop !
Did the reality of those elections escape you ? The Republicans and the Tea Party candidates were elected to stop his government takeovers and because the majority of U.S. citizens reacted very negatively to the contrived political deception in ramming through Obamacare !!
Even Obama said "We got shellacked". Did you ever, ever figure it out .... yet ???????
Jim-
It would be helpful to readers of this post if you could list the names of the House Bills on Senator Reid's desk, i.e. HR-123, so that people can get check your claims.
Salud
Are those the same "jobs bills" with the ridiculous pork spending riders and deep, fatal, government cuts to social programs attached by the GOP to ensure that they never get through the Senate?
Why are Republicans so angry? Why do they REALLY hate President Obama so much? I'm afraid "the economy" isn't the real reason. Aren't a significant number of Republicans today the children and grandchildren of former Southern Democrats who fled to the Republican party because they were against the civil rights movement?
Is that a rhetorical question? Most of them cannot stand having a black man with a foreign-sounding name in the White House. Period. They will cloak their hatred with all sorts of excuses, but I'm afraid that is the bottom line.
Back to the race card already ? In other words, you cannot explain Obama's TOTAL INCOMPETENCE and now have to make up excuses for him !
The fact is, their last hero did a poor enough job for that to be the situation today:
G.W. was replaced with a guy whose middle name matched that of his sworn enemy!
As a conservative and Tea Party member, put Condy Rice and Allen West up for election and see how may of us vote for any white democrats who would oppose them. You guys are living in La-La; we could give a good @!$%# about what color the President or Vice President are!
Gravis and Reality Check 1
Its comments like that put complete faith in the ability for some people to be lead around like sheep. The racial mantra of the liberal masses rears its head again. It has no bases in fact, but if repeated enough for you liberals it becomes your own reality. Its much easier then having to think for yourselves.
There was something ELSE very new about Obama being president, but I've forgotten what that was, myself.
Well, isn't it a FACT that Southern Democrats in the early 60's fled to the Republican Party after they vehemently opposed the civil rights movement? They took all that hate and passed it on. It is very clear to see this if you want to. If you don't...well that's called denial. Good luck with that. We have a country to run and there's no room for '60's southern mentality here.
Hey Typical Politician...you just described your own party and YOU KNOW IT. Tried comparing President Obama to Hitler lately too? Your party is a bunch of displaced angry souls that can't stand people who don't watch Fox and don't hate President Obama. What's weird is you come to this website to try and incite people. Isn't that what bullies do? Good luck with that.
I wonder why on the MSNBC home page I see no coverage of the reported relationship with the DOJ and Media Matters. To me there is concerned when a "so called" protector of the truth, non profit entity, in the media has direct ties, as well as targeted direction from the DOJ. When our government starts to control what message is being covered by a so called unbiased media watch dog and directs their actions as to which way to go...this entity is no longer a protector of the truth...or should be considered a nonprofit entity.
We, a nation of fools, will bring our own downfall if he gets in again to complete his obvious goals to the world
SHOCKING - CBS gives an honest, but disturbed, assessment .
I saw 2016 last weekend and in a packed theatre. In a word "Freightening"! Audience stood up a clapped and cheered at the end of the movie. The truth is here for all those who want to see it.
Hot Daddy - cool your jets there. Paulson does NOT work for CBS, but writes for the National Conservative Examiner. This is a guest OPINION piece at a LOCAL CBS station. Please read the disclaimers at the end of your "truth-telling" articles. Here, at the end of the piece from the local CBS website:
"Scott Paulson writes political commentary for Examiner.com and teaches English at a community college in the Chicago area. The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of CBS Local."
That movie was produced by the RNC. We all know it because we know Republican tactics. They just kicked it up a notch.
you didn't happen to catch the interview with the producer of the film who stated that they entire thing was just an elaborate conspiracy theory that he outlined with no basis in fact? he just wanted to make a buck off the ABO crowd... There is your "truth".
@ Punjab: You are correct that it is "scary." You may not know but crowds stood up and applauded another piece of propaganda too in 1915 called "The Birth of a Nation." Crowds stood in the Southern states of The United States of America and applauded for hours a film that glorified and promoted racial hatred and the Ku Klux Klan. Your argument is lame that because people applaude propaganda it must be true. Obviously, if you accept the false words of patriotism from Rupert Murdoch, the richest Australian and Denesh D' Souza an India born hatemonger, who isn't the great grandson of John Phillip Sousa, neither Murdoch nor D'Souza have our Nation's best interest at heart and in fact Murdoch has gotten richer and richer as Australias economy has boomed while the United States was spending $4trillion for Fox/W. Bush/Neocon War on Terror depleted our Nation's ability to build our economy. What do both of these charlatans have to gain from severely naive and outwardly uninformed people? HINT: it starts with "mo" and it ends with "ney" When you go chunk down your $15.00 think of the source of your hate-filled information. Denesh D' Souza laughing all the way to the bank.
For months, Mitt Romney and his Republican allies have been falsely claiming that President Obama "made the economy worse." This week, Romney preposterously declared Obama "knowingly slowed down our recovery." And today in Missouri, the Republican nominee doubled-down, charging that the President "slowed the recovery and harmed our economy," a result Romney insisted constituted "a moral failure of tragic proportions."
As it turns out, Thursday would have been a good day for Mitt Romney to stop sniffing glue. Because just 24 hours earlier, the director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Officeblew the Republican slander out of the water.
As the Washington Post reported, the House Budget Committee heard testimony from CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf to answer simple question: did the $787 billion Obama stimulus work? Unfortunately for Republican propagandists, Elmendorf clearly refuted Mitt Romney's claim that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) was "the largest one-time careless expenditure of government money in American history."
Not content with that response, Kansas Republican Rep. Tim Huelskamp tried again. "Where did Washington mess up?" Huelskamp demanded. "Because you're saying most economists think it should've worked. It didn't." As the Post's Lori Montgomery detailed, Elmendorf drove home the point:
Elmendorf's agency released its latest assessment of the stimulus just last week. And as the table below shows, at its peak in 2010 the ARRA added up to 3.3 million jobs, cut unemployment by as much as 1.8 percent and boosted GDP by up to 4.1 percent. (It's also worth noting that the CBO once again confirmed that aid to the states and purchases by the federal government delivers the biggest bang for the buck, while upper income tax cuts provide the least.)
Still, the Romney campaign remains determined to whitewash that message. As one Romney aide described President Obama's stimulus program, "He spent $800 billion of everybody's money. How'd it work out?"
As it turns out, it worked pretty well.
Sadly for the myth makers of Team Romney, the facts and the overwhelming consensus of economists - including John McCain's 2008 brain trust - prove otherwise. President Obama not only did not make the American economy worse; no thanks to obstructionist Republicans in Congress he saved the United States from "Great Depression 2.0" and put the nation on the path to recovery.
The proof starts, but certainly doesn't end with the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). Despite Republican mythmaking that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) "created zero jobs," in November the CBO reported that the stimulus added up to 2.4 million jobs and boosted GDP by as much as 1.9 points in the previous quarter. As The Hill explained, the CBO has found that "President Obama's 2009 stimulus package continues to benefit the struggling economy":
In February, the New York Times assessed the impact of the Obama stimulus and rebutted its Republican critics who looked instead to the UK for inspiration:
Among those economists is Mark Zandi, who in 2008 served as an adviser to Republican John McCain. Federal intervention, he and Princeton economist Alan Blinder argued in August 2010, literally saved the United States from a second Great Depression. In "How the Great Recession Was Brought to an End," Blinder and Zandi's models confirmed the impact of the Obama recovery program and concluded that "laissez faire was not an option":
But their modeling also suggests that the totality of federal efforts to rescue the banking system dating back to the fall of 2008 prevented a catastrophic collapse:
Even Douglas Holtz-Eakin, former head of the CBO and chief economic adviser to John McCain during the 2008 election, acknowledged the impact of the stimulus. Certainly no fan of either Barack Obama or the design of the ARRA, Holtz-Eakin told Ezra Klein that:
Lamentably, we still need to do something. As May's disappointing jobs numbers show, the slowdown in China and the deepening crisis in Europe are already having an impact in the U.S. But the same Senate Republicans who gave the February 2009 stimulus bill only three votesfilibustered President Obama's proposed $447 billion American Jobs Act last October. Nine days later, the GOP blocked $35 billion in aid to states to pay the salaries of teachers, firefighters and police. (Forecasters estimated the AJA stymied by the Republicans could have added up to 1.3 million jobs and 2 points to GDP this year. Nevertheless, Mitt Romney charged on Tuesday that Obama "hasn't put forth a plan to get us working again."
As it turns out, the 600,000 jobs shed by state and local governments since December 2008 not only added as much a full point to the unemployment rate, but meant "the current recovery is the only one that has seen public-sector losses over its first 31 months." Despite that "anti-stimulus," Mitt Romney pretended once again today that "President Obama has expanded government."
No, President Obama has not expanded government. He has not "made the economy worse." And as the CBO's Doug Elmendorf made very clear to disappointed House Republicans yesterday, the stimulus was not a failure.
* Crossposted at Perrspectives *
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CBS didnt give an "honest" assessment of anything. A right wing, conservative blogger posted about a film exactly what you would expect from ... well, a right wing, conservative blogger. You know, I think hell would freeze over if any of these right wingers actually told the truth.
Reality Check 1
You do need a reality check with that type of comment.....this is what paints liberals as having no intellectual ability to debate issues. I don't know if my Grandparents came from the South...it doesn't make a fat rats ass bit of difference if they did. I have been in the North all my life! I am conservative and for you to speak what amounts to be racially motivated drivel is the reason I loose more faith in our voting block. It always has to come down to race, gender, age, for you liberals to think that is the reason someone disagrees with this President.....it's simply his policies I dislike. Our country has lost the direction of giving a hand up when people have fallen vs always a hand out. I believe in helping anyone in need...reaching out my hand to lift them up but the policies of this government as well as those in the past increasingly allow people to lay there while we keep giving them a hand out. They soon loose their desire to get their ass of the ground. Again you need a reality check...your name fits perfect for you!
YOU LIE!!!
RC, is that the best you can do? Obviously another left-wing genius-level product of our educational system! You want to try to rebut Typ again and this time type something coherent that smacks of sensibility and cleverly-reasoned argument?
If you give a man a fish, you have fed him for today. If you teach the man to fish, you have fed for the rest of his life.
We seem to have lost target on fishing and are way too focused like a laser beam on eating.
This is a desperate attempt by the White House to make Obama look good as usual. Obama believed in Redistribution then as well as now, plain and simple. The usual cover up for Obama and the smearing of Romney continues... Do you really think no one can see the outright bias from the Libby media and White House? Fools... ~(:>)
RE: Obama 2016 - Dinesh D'Souza has worked for a Conservative Think Tank in DC for years, and has had a personal hatred for Obama for longer. Dinesh is clearly working out HIS own daddy issues through the book and film by trying to make Obama look like he's been psychically controlled by his dead father who he met once at the airport when he was 10. Yeah, sounds totally plausible. NOT.
This film is ridiculous, using O's words from his book and overlaying scary images of chaos around the world. Frightening! - For those with no aptitude for cognitive thought. It's manipulative propaganda. At least Hilary the Movie was interesting, this is insulting garbage.
Obama 2016 ultimately coming off more like "The REAL Bigfoot - REVEALED"!
Hey Newsgirl - What in the movie is untrue?? Who his parents were? Who their friends and mentors were? Who mentored Obama as a child? Who raised Obama.? Who his friends and associates are? How many half (or some part) brothers and sisters does he have? Did he not write Dreams of My Father? Why would anyone with his background understand capitalism and what made America great?
I keep waiting and waiting for some Obama spokesman to challenge the details of the documentary; non yet!
All you got is to compare Obama 2016 to Bigfoot? Obama is in front of us evey day and has a history and record. Anyone can dismiss Bigfoot as a "fairy tale"; I wish Obama was a fairy tale!
All Republicans have is this stupid self produced movie to fall back on? Really? Talk about a backfire! People are on to Republican tactics and aren't falling for them anymore. But they still try...expecting a different result. Hey, isn't that the definition of insanity?
Reality..........you got to be kidding? You need to change your name. You really DO need a reality check!!! All we have to fall back on is 2016??? What plant are you living on? Unemployment, Debt, Regulation, Divider in Chief, Class Envy, Lower Credit Rating, Middle East termoil, Obama Care, Job Destroyer...........Are you for real?
It is ironic that the bigots on the right actually buy into the propaganda sold to them buy a man from India, Denesh d' Souza. He isn't John Phillip's great grandson I'll assure you. So when you cite a propaganda movie consider the source of who made the movie and exactly what it is they are trying to accomplish. Do you think d' Souza, as a man from India, really has the US's best interest at heart and that is why he is trying to "expose" President Obama just out of the goodness of his heart? The naive people who even pay to see this movie are the same group of people who listen to and swallow hook, line and sinker the rubbish from Fox News and accept it on its face as true even though the source company is owned by Rupert Murdoch who is an Australian. Look at the state of the Australian economy during the American War on Terror that was bought hook, line and sinker by the naive Republicans who assumed that because they show some pretty faces and flash flags across the screen they must have the United State's best interest at heart. Is it coincidence that during the eight years of W. Bush's/Fox's War on Terror that the Australian economy has grown exponentially and the Australian Dollar has strengthened against every major currency and against gold? They don't you morons. Turn off Fox and let the space between your ears have a break trying to find out where President Obama was born.
Every election cycle Republican money rolls out another right wing fantasy thriller that just makes their nerve endings tingle. And every cycle they go on a blog binge yelling, "this time's it's really, really true"! And every cycle the same 12% believe everything the editing crew feeds them.
One of you just asked, "well, why doesn't the left dispute what the movie says"? Because we have better things to do with our time than waste it trying to talk sense to a winger. There's your answer in as simple terms as I can muster, the kind even a winger can digest. Feel free to get back to me with any other asinine questions you might have. I might not waste my time on the next one, though.