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The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd shares details from the latest NBC News/ WSJ poll, which is the first national one after the conventions.
*** Reaching 50%: Back in May, we noticed in our national and state polls that President Obama was at or near 48% in these surveys, which represented a sort of tipping point for an incumbent president. You're very close to that all-important 50%, but still not there. Well, our latest round of national and state polls conducted after the conventions now shows Obama at or near 50%. For instance, our brand-new national NBC/WSJ poll finds him leading Romney 50%-45% among likely voters and his approval rating sitting right at 50% among registered voters (the first time he's reached that point since March). In addition, last week's NBC/WSJ/Marist polls of Florida (49%-44%), Ohio (50%-43%), and Virginia (49%-44%) had him at or near that 50% threshold. There are exceptions, however: A national AP/GfK poll has Obama at 47% among likely voters and Romney at 46%, and USA Today/Gallup has Obama at 48% in the swing states versus Romney at 46%. But there also are other polls showing Obama at or above 50% -- new NYT/CBS/Quinnipiac surveys have him at 51% in Wisconsin, 50% in Virginia, but 48% in Colorado. So Obama's prospects are looking stronger than a month ago. The question is: Can he hold on to this 50% support? If the election were held today, it would probably look a lot like Obama’s job rating in our new poll -- 50% to 48%.
*** Did Obama and Romney succeed at their conventions? Here’s another way to read our poll: Did Obama and Romney succeed at their conventions in shoring up their weaknesses? Remember, this is our first national poll after the conventions and after the natural bounce time. For Obama, his convention had the dual purpose of trying to make the nation feel better about the last four years, as well as make the case that it would be better off if he were re-elected. Well, our NBC/WSJ poll shows that the percentage thinking the country is better off since Obama became president jumped seven points from August, and it also shows him leading Romney by 11 points on who is better prepared to lead the country over the next four years, 47%-36%. Another goal of the Democratic convention was to fire up the Democratic base, and the evidence there is more mixed. Per our poll, 71% of Democrats express high interest in the upcoming election, which is up three points from August. But that percentage trails Republicans, who are at 80%. What’s more, Romney leads Obama among the highest-interest voters, 49%-46%. As for Romney’s his convention’s goal was to attempt to make him more likeable and close the empathy gap. On this score: mission NOT accomplished. Romney’s fav/unfav rating is pretty much unchanged at 38%-43%, and Obama leads him by nearly 20 points (53%-34%) on who best looks out for the middle class.
*** Economic optimism on the rise: Fueling Obama's horserace numbers in our NBC/WSJ poll is increased optimism about the economy and nation's direction. Per the poll, 39% of registered voters say the country is on the right track, versus 55% who say it’s on the wrong track. That right-track number is a seven-point increase from August, and it’s the highest percentage on this question since Sept. ’09. What’s more, 42% of voters believe the economy will improve in the next 12 months, which is a six-point jump from August and 15-point rise from July. And now get this: Obama is tied with Romney (43% to 43%) on which candidate would be better on the economy. (The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent points out that this is the sixth recent national poll to show Obama and Romney tied on the economy.) In July, Romney held a six-point edge on this question. As NBC/WSJ co-pollster Peter Hart (D) says, “Simply put, it Romney doesn’t win on dealing with the economy, he doesn’t win.” The jump in economic optimism isn’t just being fueled by more Democrats, but also by high single-digit and double-digits shift among self-described indies.
Tony Dejak / AP
President Barack Obama speaks at a campaign event at Schiller Park Monday, Sept. 17, 2012, in Columbus, Ohio.
*** Comparing 2012 to 2004: Still, NBC/WSJ co-pollster Bill McInturff (R) cautions that the race promises to be close. Why? Because the numbers bear a striking resemblance to those from 2004, when George W. Bush narrowly beat John Kerry. Consider: In the Sept. 2004 NBC/WSJ poll, 39% believed the country was on the right track (vs. 39% now); 43% thought the economy would improve in the next year (vs. 42% now); Bush's fav/unfav was 49%-45% (vs. Obama's 48%-42%); Kerry's fav/unfav was 42%-42% (vs. Romney's 38%-43%); and Bush led Kerry by three points among likely voters (vs. Obama's five-point edge now). "If you look at '04 as a model, '04 was really close," McInturff says. "And that's how we should continue to think about the campaign." But do note that in 2004, Kerry won October, besting Bush in the debates to make the race competitive. Can Romney do the same? He lost July and August, and he’s losing September. The next month is his last chance.
*** Who's still up for grabs? Indeed, our poll also shows that the pool of up-for-grabs voters -- those who are undecided or leaning only to either Obama or Romney -- is getting smaller. From April through July, these folks represented 18% of the respondents; in August, they were 16%; and now they are just 12%. So who is this 12%? According to the poll, they are pessimistic about the direction of the country (22% think it's on the right track). They are down on Obama (just 31% approve of his job). But they also don't like Romney (his fav/unfav with them is 21%-38% vs. Obama's 29%-46%).
*** Obama’s big yellow flag: foreign policy. Finally, ours is the first major national poll to test the president’s job rating on foreign policy since the tragedy in Libya and the protests all over the Middle East. And, so far, the crisis appears to have taken a toll on the president. His approval rating on foreign policy dropped to 49%-46% (it was 54%-40% last month). While some of the increase in “disapproval” came from Republicans, there was also a precipitous drop in the president’s rating from independents.
*** The “47%” story continues: While 50% remains the number for Obama, Mitt Romney continues to be dogged by 47% -- that is, his remarks at that secretly taped fundraiser back in May. The campaign has tried to fight back, resurrecting a 14-year-old comment from Obama on “redistribution.” “The president’s view is one of a larger government; I disagree,” Mr. Romney said on FOX yesterday, per the New York Times. “I think a society based on a government-centered nation where government plays a larger and larger role, redistributes money, that’s the wrong course for America.” But make no mistake: This new line of attack is all about reassuring the base. Just look where this argument is being made -- on FOX and Drudge. In fact, perhaps the bigger development yesterday were down-ballot Republicans (like Scott Brown and Linda McMahon) distancing themselves from Romney’s “47%” remarks. "That's not the way I view the world," Brown said in a statement yesterday. "As someone who grew up in tough circumstances, I know that being on public assistance is not a spot that anyone wants to be in."
*** Conservatives growing restless: And while some conservatives have come to Romney’s defense, others are beginning to unload on him. The Weekly Standard’s John McCormack: “The reason such remarks keep slipping out of Mitt Romney's mouth is not that Romney wants to wage a class war against lower-income Americans. The likely problem is that Mitt Romney is not a conservative--or at least wasn't a conservative until late in life--but he is running for president as the nominee of the conservative party on a conservative platform. So he has trouble defending conservative ideas.” Here’s Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal: “I think there is a broad and growing feeling now, among Republicans, that this thing is slipping out of Romney’s hands.” And here’s the Wall Street Journal’s editorial page: “Surely a man as smart as the former CEO of Bain Capital can give a better speech on taxes and dependency than he delivered at that fundraiser. If he can't, he'll lose, and he'll deserve to.” What has to concern Romney and the GOP is that the conservatives who were never really for Romney in the first place are beginning to sound or read as if they are simply exhausted from defending him.
*** Dem Super PAC seizes on Romney’s “47%” comment: Meanwhile, the pro-Obama Super PAC Priorities USA Action is out with the first TV ad seizing on Romney’s “47%” remarks. “Behind these doors Mitt Romney calls half the American people ‘dependent upon government, who believe they are victims,’” the ad goes. “Victims? Behind these doors middle-class families struggle. And Romney will make things even tougher. Raising taxes by up to $2,000 to give multi-millionaires a $250,000 tax break.” The ad will air in CO, FL, IA, OH, VA, and WI.
*** Romney borrows $20 million: Finally, the news -- first reported by National Review Online -- that Romney had to borrow $20 million to get him through the period where he couldn’t tap into his general-election funds shouldn’t be THAT big of a deal. He has plenty of money now that we’re in the general-election phase (which legally began after his convention acceptance speech). But it does become somewhat of a problem when you add it to all of Romney’s other problems. The 47% remarks. The conservatives who are growing restless. The polls showing Obama at or near 50%.
*** On the trail: Romney raises money in Atlanta and then heads to Miami, FL, where he participates in Univision’s "Meet the Candidates" forum and then holds a "Juntos Con Romney" rally at 8:55 pm ET… Paul Ryan stumps in Virginia… And First Lady Michelle Obama campaigns in North Carolina.
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I'm fired up and ready to go vote for our President!
robmehood and lyin are the President's best advocates
4 more for 44
This is what a true leader believes!
Not someone like Willard, who can't even articulate WHY he wants to be President, other than he feels it's "his turn"!
I have to admit, the conservative hand wringing sure is hysterical to watch!
GALLUP (09/19/2012): One in Five Swing-State Voters Could Change Minds
5% of swing-state voters are undecided, while 7% said there is "some
chance" they could change their vote, and 10% gave it a "slight chance."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/157517/obama-romney-swing-states.aspx
IMO it is exactly as the campaigns and other pollsters have said … this is a base election and both sides are fighting over a very small number of voters. So while Gallup says 20% could go either way the reality is the fight is only over 5% to 8% of persuadable voters, most likely closer to the 5%. So we are looking at about 2 million voters in 12 swing states that will determine the next President. All the campaign and Super PAC ads are pointed at this small sliver of voters.
I’m a lazy no good 47% victim – Go Big O
Over five thousand
years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel ,
"Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead
you to the Promised Land."
Nearly 75 years ago, (when Welfare was introduced) Roosevelt said,
"Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this
is the Promised Land."
Today, Congress has stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, raised the
price of Camels and mortgaged the Promised Land!
I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, the
economy, the wars, lost jobs, savings, Social Security, retirement
funds, etc .... I called a Suicide Hotline.
I had to press 1 for English.
I was connected to a call center in Pakistan . I told them I was suicidal.
They got excited and asked if I could drive a truck......
Folks, we're screwed.
“If I Were Iran”:
Mitt Romney suggested that the entire video of his
fundraising meeting on May 17, 2012 be released and that is exactly what
happened. To say that 47% of the
American people are dependent on government and see themselves as victims was
outrageous. To say that “My job is not
to worry about THOSE people” was even more outrageous. But for Romney to suggest that Iran could
threaten Chicago with a “dirty bomb” was the most outrageous comment of
all. It borders on sedition.
“If I were Iran,
if I were Iran, — a crazed fanatic, I’d say let’s get a little fissile
material to Hezbollah, have them carry it to Chicago or some other place, and
then if anything goes wrong or America starts acting up, we’ll just say, ‘Guess
what? Unless you stand down, why, we’re going to let off a dirty bomb.’”
I have to wonder
if Willard understands the significance of his careless statements. A radioactive dirty bomb in Chicago would
make a portion of that city uninhabitable.
It would kill innocent people. It would inflict long term illnesses like
cancer on people who were exposed to a dirty bomb. It would be an act of terror.
So we have
candidate Romney telling Iran how to blackmail the United States by using a
dirty bomb in Chicago. And on the other
hand we have President Obama working to keep America safe from terrorist
attacks. What an incredible contrast between the two candidates.
So I ask, how can
a rational person vote for a man who has so little regard for his country that he
would suggest to our enemies that America could be blackmailed by attacking its
“second city”? Willard Mitt Romney has disqualified himself as a viable
presidential candidate.
Who's entitled? Mitt Romney pays 13% in taxes - lower than most working Americans.
1) Americans who paid payroll taxes in 2011 without income tax liabillity - still paid about 15% of their income. 2) Tax Policy Center reports only 7% in the U.S. have no federal taxes to pay & most make less than $20K a year. 3) Those who come under the lowest income tax bracket - still pay federal payroll taxes - plus state/local sales, gas, excise taxes, etc. 4) Tax credits are for poor working families, elderly no longer working or disabled, and students without yearly income. 5) Folks who fall into the category of no federal income tax liability, are disproportionately higher in Republican states, probably due to work-for-less-and-less laws.
Whether Democrat or Republican, these folks aren't avoiding their tax liabilities. They're not 'freeloaders'. And there's no Romney cookie cutter reality. Yet Republicans in Congress like Eric Cantor, keep on asking our vulnerable Americans to put more “skin in the game". Romney's arrogant "47%" statements, only highlight GOP's utter disregard for the lives of millions of people.
In the wake of the "Lost decade", we don't need a plutocratic puppet in the White House. We need a president who can help the middle class get the ball - and run with it. We have such a leader in President Barack Obama.
Romney's Horrible, Awful, Very Bad Weeks Continue. I admit, I'm still recovering from the shock of Romney's declaring me, along with 150 million other Americans, to be part of the 47% of Obama supporters who are lazy, no good, victims who pay no income taxes and sit home and wait for the freebies to arrive. To think all those years I thought I had worked, saved, spent money to help the economy, donated to charities, all those tax records with my name on them, the paycheck stubs, the bank records showing paychecks deposited--it was apparently a dream, a really nice dream but turns out it was only my subconscious desires because according to Mitt, I didn't take responsibility for my life.
Turns out Mitt Romney has a low opinion of Latinos, too; millionaires they joke about Latinos--good for laughs. Oh, and Romney gave advice to terrorists in his little speech to millionaires, told them how best to hit America. He told the millionaires that peace between Israel & Palestine is not worth any effort; he'll kick the ball down the field. The only thing missing about Iran was Mitt singing "bomb, bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb Iran". Nice, that's real nice, Mitt.
Doubt if Mitt realizes that in those 47% he disparaged, many are retired seniors, disabled, many are republicans. Wonder if he realizes that joking about Latinos or blacks or Asians with a bunch of millionaires is not just rude but reflects a serious judgement flaw, reflects a serious character flaw. I doubt it. Romney seems unable to grasp basic information beyond how to make a million or two. He makes inappropriate comments at the oddest times. He seems incapable of realizing that what he says is not just rude but often irresponsible.
Mitt Romney was successful at Bain Capital by sucking the lifeblood out of profitable, private businesses, shipping jobs overseas and creating minimum wage jobs here but if one looks beyond Mitt's success in making money--he has none. He was a failure as Governor of Massachusetts. Now, there's nothing wrong with being good at only one thing, nothing wrong with being good at making lots of money except if one is running for President of the United States. Being President requires a set of many skills. Romney has only one skill.
One incredibly stupid position after another, and still Romney and Ryan remain in a virtual tie with President Obama. Widows who stuck by their husbands through thick and thin, in sickness and in health now face a life on a meager Social Security check. Parasites on the hard-working millionaire and billionaire class. Veterans who had the nerve to be wounded in combat, to lose limbs, to lose their sanity, are now dependent on the VA. More parasites on the hard-working millionaire and billionaire class that desperately needs Mitt Romney's help.
Kill Medicare. Kill Social Security. Increase the defense budget. Get that desperately needed tax cut for the millionaire and billionaire class. And, by the way, trust us, we'll get back to you with the details later. No matter that we lie like rugs. No matter that Romney hasn't released a single complete tax return. Not one.
Yet, the race is close. How can that possibly be? Well, it's because we have forgotten our history. You see, we want to pretend that the United States is a nation based on equality. All men are created equal. Well, that's just not true. This was a nation that was created with a single ruling class in mind. To be a part of that ruling class you had to most importantly be a male. Women were not invited to govern. Barefoot, pregnant, subservient, and just shut the hell up.
Not all males were invited to this ruling party either. You had to be free, 21-years of age, landed, and you'd damned well better be white. Still, knowing that times change the framers allowed for amendments to the Constitution. Yes, it is a living document.
Over time, and earned at the cost - literally - of blood, sweat, and tears, the stranglehold of white males was lessened. In the bloodiest war in our history, we outlawed slavery. All of us were free. Then, less than a century ago, women got the right to vote. Being a white male was no longer a ticket to legislated supremacy. Half a century ago, voting rights received federal protection. Then 18-year-old's got the right to vote. Why not? We could send them off to be killed.
In spite of the laws, in spite of the sacrifices of millions of Americans, voting rights remain under attack. Those attacks must be crushed. It must be made absolutely clear that it doesn't matter how many dollars an individual can throw at an election. It doesn't matter how many shadowy PAC's can try to influence an election. What matters is understanding that the lowliest citizen's vote is equal to the richest citizen's. The citizens who would strip us of our voting rights are clearly the enemy.
So, that's why Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan remain so close to President Obama in the race. White males and their subservient women were automatically the governing aristocracy. That's not true any longer, and nothing is more galling than to see a guy with dark skin running THEIR country. That's why they'll vote for anyone but Obama.
Make no mistake, for all their talk about a meritocracy, that's the last thing these people want. Merit trumps white, it trumps gender, and it even trumps age, and they really hate that. Truth to tell, they can't compete. That's why they want to go back. They don't have the brains to compete on a level playing field. Being a white male should be enough, and to hell with everyone else.
And mowing their grass... cleaning their mansions... cooking their meals...
Well, you get the idea!
Can you hear it?
It's the pitter patter of little rat feet jumping off the S.S. Rombot.
T. Money Trim 'n' Rapy Luau (running on empty)
WOW, good morning, Chris, Feisty, Dennis, Ron, Jody, David, Foreplinger >>Foreward>>>
RomneyRyan propose a new $5Trillion tax cut that will give Romney's billionaire donor Adelson, a $2.3Billion tax cut.
And to pay for this tax cut, families with children will pay an additional $2,000 a year!
GOP/Koch's consistent position is that vulnerable Americans should pay more, so that wealthy Americans can pay less.
Whatever it takes and whoever it hurts - to put more money into the pockets of the corporate right.
Our Great President Obama believes in the people of these United States. However, that other guy Willard Romney doesn't care about 47% of the people. News for Willard, more than half of these 47% you dislike plan on voting for you. Stupid is as stupid does.
Rombot only responds to $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Rebooting won't change a thing.
"""One incredibly stupid position after another, and still Romney and Ryan remain in a virtual tie with President Obama."""""
Awwwww, Poor David. That's drives you people crazy doesn't it? That's what I love. Romney should not apologize ONE BIT for what he said. Leave the apologizing for Hussein while apologizes to filthy Libyans and Egyptians who tear up our embassies, burn our flags and kill our citizens.
Romney is at least partly right. The percentage of people who lay about waiting for their handouts are NOT going to vote for him. The remainder of the 47% are people like you twits.
By the way, BEST NEWS OF THE WEEK- Some Pakistani DIED from smoke inhalation after burning one of our flags. Maybe you people can take up a collection for his family. I hear Obama has already APOLOGIZED to them.
So, what happened to Obama's post-convention bounce? With the exception of the NBC/WSJ poll which oversamples Democrats by 6-7 points, all of the recent polls show the race is once again a dead heat. If anybody is telling you otherwise, they are either lying, or simply don't know what they're talking about.
Despite the liberal media's attempt to make the claim that this race is all but over (NBC?), Romney just keeps hanging in there. Remember, because of faulty methodology, if polls show the race tied on election day, Romney wins. The media knows this, which is why they're beginning to look so desperate. Look for the polls to become more accurate as the election nears and liberal pollsters realize that their reputations are on the line.
So what now liberals? Maybe you can find another secretly recorded video of Romney speaking the truth.
 Seems "video" is still the topic of the week- we would not want to fixate on the murders of four Americans at a Libyan consulate protected by a door lock, or ignored intelligence reports, or anything that might serve to undermine Obama's greatness; so here's a little video of Obama, freely espousing what can only be identified as socialist ideas
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/18/obama_in_1998_i_actually_believe_in_redistribution.html
Oh, and by the way- Â the media frenzy over the Romney statement? Â Epic fail.
See, it doesn't surprise me in the least that Jimmy IV-35 and unemployed, spending his days surfing the web for anything that might look negative for republicans- didn't know this, but, just a few days ago, Gallup did a poll.  Turns out that a majority  of respondents think the government does WAAAAY too much for people. Â
http://www.gallup.com/poll/157481/majority-say-government-doing.aspx
It's so sad that liberals don't even understand their fellow Americans. Â Maybe if they did, we would not be in this mess.
Job1 and Don't Carry - a good Wednesday to you!
"I served in the army while Romney rode his bicycle around Paris. Now I'm a freeloader because I feel "entitled" to medical care from the V.A.? I also worked for more than 40 years before collecting Social Security. Whoa! Entitled again! Apparently I'm scum in Romneyland. Wow."
"Question for Mitt: Why is it OK for him to pay only the taxes legally required and not one penny more and at the same time deride people as lazy and moochers who legally pay no federal income tax. It seems to me that he might have some sort of entitlement mentality ." (WaPo Postscript)
You know the old story where the philosophy professor writes the word 'why' on the blackboard for the final exam, and all the students who returned their papers with the answer 'why not' got A's. This is what the GOP is doing now. When the whole world questioned why Romney made his "47%" remarks, the entire GOP idiot world yesterday said "hell yes and damn staright he's right". Hey Mitt, do you feel like the world is a black tuxedo and you're a pair of brown shoes?
It's sad that conservatives (like you No Joe) don't have a single ounce of education. Why don't you run your "biology lesson" by us again?
The GOP supporters are too stupid to realize that most of the "47%" live in red states in the South.
I’m a lazy no good 47% victim...
And I always suspected as much.
I keep hearing the slogan "4 more for 44" and keep wondering 4 more years of what?
a. adding 1.3 trillion a year to the deficit? for a total of ~21 Trillion by the end of his second term.
b. another 4 years of 8.1% unemployment - more realistic number is ~15%
c. health insurance cost up 17% a year through 2020
d. more taxes across the board for EVERYONE not just the 1%
e. approximately 60 weeks of vacation for President Obama
f. four more years without a budget getting passed by the Senate for a total of 7 years without a budget.
Enlighten me on what four more years of President Obama will bring?
Fool’s Gold,
Yep, all us retired men and women are
Good morning, everyone.
Just one thought today. Frankly, I've been getting very tired of being accused of envying the one percent, and engaging in class warfare. It became pretty clear over the past few days -- if it wasn't before -- that, if there IS class warfare, it is resentment coming from the top down, rather than envy running from the bottom up.
As I have long held this view, without any help from the "liberal media," I found this particular article re-affirming.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/opinion/mitt-romney-class-warrior.html?smid=FB-nytimes&WT.mc_id=OP-E-FB-SM-LIN-MRC-091912-NYT-NA&WT.mc_ev=click
What I find so interesting about all of this is how much anger and goofy paranoia the top income class has developed, and how much money they are willing to spend just to save money on their personal taxes. Their personal security is in no way threatened if the middle class does better. And yet, they would rather spend money to put the rabble down than to share their good fortune with those who are less fortunate than they.
As Backhouse observed,
A pretty good return on Adelson's $25 million investment, you'd have to agree. Now, think about how many school lunches for poor kids that $25 million might have bought. I can pretty much guarantee you that none of the $2.35 billion tax cut would go to school lunches, either.
It seems quite clear that this privileged group does not evince the "Christian" values they espouse in any meaningful way. Even the pandering Mitt Romney has said there is nothing he can do for the 47 percent, just like apparently there's really nothing he can do -- or is willing to do -- for Israel.
So, to my conservative friends, unless you can show in what way these conservatives DO espouse Christian values and DO NOT harbor anger and resentment against those who are not as fortunate as they are, I suggest you stop talking about "Class Warfare." Don't be ashamed. Don't hide behind closed doors in "quiet rooms." Bring your greed and anger out in the open for everyone to see. Embrace it.
Romney said that if he had "more time," he might have said his message better. Well, he's had more time, and he sure hasn't said it any better. And that's because he can't, without offending his angry base.
As I observed yesterday, all Mitt Romney has proven here is that, if we common folk actually see him speak the words, we know he's lying.
And, finally, he's proven, once and for all, which way the warfare really runs.
Ditto what Backhouse said, terrific posts from thoughtful leftie, liberals.
Not sure where Sirie got the notion, likely from right-wing notion preachers for 30 years, that President Roosevelt told folks to stay home and do nothing. In fact, his legislation was a reward to the elderly for hard work during their productive years. It was at that time called an old age pension and was established so that when the time comes--and it does eventually come to all of us--when we are no longer physically able to work, we will have paid into a guaranteed pension plan that will let us buy food and keep a roof over our heads.
If Government fails to ensure that the least among its citizens are provided some relief, some assistance, then as a country proclaiming to be "exceptional"--we will have failed the very ideal of Americanism. We do not discard the sick, the disabled, the tired or the poor--we embrace them and above all, we help them. That is United we Stand. That is American Exceptionalism.
feisty said --
This is what a true leader believes!
Not someone like Willard, who can't even articulate WHY he wants to be President, other than he feels it's "his turn"!
I have to admit, the conservative hand wringing sure is hysterical to watch!
Actually feisty you are correct, a true leader is for everybody, not just for some. but when it comes the the current occupant of the white house that claim does not hold any credibility -- "If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, 'We're gonna punish our enemies, and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us..."
our dear leader was not talking about terrorists or the like but rather talking about Americans with whom he disagrees.
so sad to see all of the lemmings still trying to find something positive in this guy when nearly everything he does goes into the bit bucket.
50% and rising. And the Nations approval of our President will just keep rising through election day. Loving it. Well Romney may have delivered to himself the final death blow with his idiotic statement to his fundraiser friends. Maybe the top 1% think this was a great speech, but I can assure you the other 99% found it beyond offensive. Who does this egotistical jerk think he is? He throws half the people in America under the bus. Insults them and then degrades them. And he expects to get elected. I don't think so.
Well he says "it will just blow over". Boy is he in for a surprise. This will stick to him for the rest of his life.
OBAMA IN 2012.
Gee, Romney should be OBAMA's campaign manager he is doing a HELL of a job getting the vote for OBAMA.
>>>>>>>> OBAMA 2012/CLINTON 2016 <<<<<<<<<
50%? Well when you chalk up 47% being leeches that don't really contribute to society...that only means 3% of the population have no understanding of economics and little intelligence... 3% I can believe have zero understanding of what is going on in the world and our country.
But riddle me this: If you're paying in taxes, you are paying for your right to vote. If you're not paying in taxes, why do you get a vote? If you're not helping split the cost of the pizza, you shouldn't get a say in toppings....let alone a say in which pizza place we order from.
The 47% act like victims? Well expect Obama's numbers to go over 50% next week when new polls come out. Mitt finds self sufficiency in a $$70,000.00$$ Horse deduction ie:not paying tax. More money deducting tax for his Poor Victim Horse then a majority of American Workers make in gross income in a year! Yep he wants you to "Pony-Up" so he can care for his Horse. But damn the 47% for trying to care for their family's on meager wages, wages Mitt promotes!
@ Backhouse
"Why is it OK for [Romney] to pay only the taxes legally required and not one penny more...?"
What a stupid question!
Let me ask you this: Do you pay more taxes than legally required? If so, how much more do you contribute beyond your "legal" tax liability?
Two weeks until the first debate, and a little less than 4 weeks until he is forced to file and release his 2011 tax return. The bumpy ride is only going to get bumpier. Willard has to be sweating bullets after a disasterous three weeks, knowing it will only get worse.
Here's a fact for ya...
In 2000, before the Bush tax cuts, that percentage of people who didn't pay income tax was only 30%. After the tax cuts and the Bush recession, it's up to 47%. Republicans have no one but themselves to blame!
Obama to Russia - "Wait until after elections, I will have more wiggle room."
Russia to Obama - "GTFO"
Hey skanky redhead,
Your bungler in chief is working hard to get himself re-elected and that's it! I really feel sorry for your pathetic a$$ that you believe otherwise.
He doesn't give a rats a$$ about you or anyone else but himself.
The American people will vote this ass out of office come November and you will all see in time what a lying conniving shyster you worship
ONE AND DONE !!!
OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake America !!!
ROMNEY / RYAN 2012
I'm still waiting to see the poll that shows Hussein's HUGE jump ahead because Romney supposedly offended half the nation. Where is it? You know who Romney offended? LIBERALS. Who the hell cares. He's supposed to be offending liberals. That's his job as a candidate and hopefully what he'll do as much as possible when he takes back the White House for real Americans. Then, maybe some of you pissy-pantsers who always claim you're going to leave the country when someone you don't like gets in, will finally do it. Ahhhhhh, there's a sweet day-a-comin'...
To quote Joe in Albany:
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
You know who Romney also offended? The independents in that very video that he said he had to win over. You know who should have been offended? Those 47% who (for the most part) are in red states. Apparently GOP supporters are too stupid to realize their own candidate insulted them.
Except that every american pays some sort of tax. Be it payroll tax, sales tax, gasoline tax, etc. Nice try though.
No matter how the RWNJ's want to slice & dice it, there is NO viable path for Willard in the electoral map! lmao
Figures don't lie... but... liars sure figure!
So good that it needs to be repeated, over and over and over again.
Do you get it, conservatives? -- What you keep talking about is not "Exceptionalism."
It is no better than third-rate banana republicanism, or even feudalism.
Romney thinks that 47% of Americans are parasites, but he's totally clueless about the fact that a large portion of those "parasites" who pay no federal income taxes are Republicans who are going to vote for him. How is Romney going to lead a country he knows nothing about, a country he despises?
#1.30:
Suggest direct your question to the poster on Postscript, or to Mitt Romney.
Sirie,
Spoken like a true patriot!! Why go on? Why should we spend the time to make life better? Why don't we just call our local vet and be given the "Green Needle"…. LOL
As I wrote before, people like you are what drove me out of the Republican Party! Your brand of fatalism, narcissism, and bigotry was more than I could stomach. You call yourselves patriots and yet you show No patriotism, you call yourselves Americans and yet you hold an animosity toward America and Americans. You claim to love freedom and democracy and yet you try to obstruct it by either disenfranchising millions of Americans from voting or by selling our democracy to the highest bidder.
You are a self-loathing, bitter, intolerable individual who will end up voting for a guy who finally came out and told the truth for once…. That he doesn't care about anyone who isn't rich, that he doesn't care about this country and he sure as hell doesn't care about you and considers you a waste of fresh air! Finally.... I can agree with him on something....LOL
Anna Molly, cheers! And thank you.
For 30 years, conservatives have been waging class warfare against the have nots, against the middle class through demonization of teachers, unions, public-sector workers, public education, the poor all while claiming to be compassionate Christians.
Are we to believe that only Republicans live in these states?
No. He thinks that 47% of Americans will not find his plan to lower taxes by 20% meaningful to their situation, because they pay no federal income taxes.
Anna Molly --
Isn't this what the right would call throwing Israel under the bus.
Wonder why they're not calling out Rombot on this?
Romney is doing a great job of getting Obama reelected. Keep up the great job Mitt. :D
Romney Completely Implodes and Claims Americans Like to Pay Taxes
By: Jason EasleySeptember 18th, 2012 on PoliticusUSA
Mitt Romney went on Fox News and managed to make his situation worse by refusing to release his tax returns, yet claiming that Americans would like to pay taxes.
Neil Cavuto pushed the Fox News lie that 47% of Americans don’t pay taxes, and asked Romney if the percentage should be higher. Mitt responded by telling America that he thinks they would enjoy paying taxes.
Romney said, “Well, first of all of course you’re right. There are a number of retirees, members of the military and so forth who aren’t paying taxes, and that’s as it should be, but I do believe we should have enough jobs and enough take-home pay such as people have the privilege of higher incomes that allow allow them to be to pay taxes. I think people would like to be paying taxes.”
Mitt Romney is the nominee of a party that has refused to raise one penny of taxes, and yet he goes on Fox News and claims that the American people would like to pay taxes. Romney apparently lives in some sort of abstract unreality, because the truth is that no matter no matter how much people earn, they aren’t going to like to pay taxes.
I guess if you are Mitt Romney and can hide most of your taxable income offshore, paying taxes is no big deal. Mitt Romney, who won’t release his tax returns, is probably the last person in the world who should be talking about how much Americans like to pay taxes. Until Romney releases his tax returns, he has zero credibility on the issue. We don’t even know how much Romney paid in taxes, yet he is telling everyone else that they should enjoy it.
Romney’s answer is nothing short of brand new disaster for his candidacy. Now, Republicans are left wondering exactly what did he mean when he said that Americans enjoy paying taxes? The GOP’s mantra is that taxes are too high period, but in a desperate attempt to save his campaign, Romney just threw that out the window.
The worst part about his comments was that this is his campaign’s scripted strategy to handle these videos. Romney wasn’t speaking off the cuff. This is how his campaign is trying to push back.
It doesn’t get more desperate than relying on an edited Obama video from 1998 via Drudge to bail out your sinking ship of a campaign. Romney strategy is to scream that Obama is a big
government socialist while telling America how much they will like paying taxes during his presidency doesn’t sound like a winner to me.
Romney still thinks almost half the country are deadbeats. He confirmed that the video was accurate, and now he is screwing with the Republican Party’s anti-tax ideology.
For Mitt Romney, things have gone from bad to much worse.
And you still haven’t shown us your tax returns. Will they show how much of a deadbeat you are, how much of a welfare queen? Ever mindful of the Rovian tactics, accuse others of doing something, that you yourself are a dab hand at practicing.
Obama's weak on foreign policy. So what do the Democrats and the press have to do? Well divert attention of course. Jimmy Carters non-working grandson, how hillarious is that, a true Democrat if there ever was one. Does everything to change the attention away from the Middle East and the economy. Still waiting for the FIRST Obama budget. Sheep! What Romney said was correct, Democrats think guvment is all about taking care of them. After all home many votes has Obama bought. but what happens when the money runs out? Not everyone can be like Jimmy Carters non-working grandson, someone has to pay in, don't they?
If you're not paying in taxes, why do you get a vote?
Dietrich:
There are a lot of people who feel this way. Google: No representation without taxation.
While I personally don't advocate taking peoples votes away, I do think it's a conflict of interest for these people not paying federal income tax to have a say in who does pay it and in how much they do.
several have said -- "RomneyRyan propose a new $5Trillion tax cut that will give Romney's billionaire donor Adelson, a $2.3Billion tax cut."
so what you are suggesting is that only one person will benefit from this tax cut? will warren buffett not benefit??
nonsensical argument.
Bravo Anna! That's one of the most rational arguments on the board today!
All this article is is pure Propaganda, meant to keep you liberals feeling good about our current President. Next week, when they are not doing the polls, this will be in the news:
It's amazing how quickly Liberals forget...... makes you think they are like children!
I didn't even get to discuss our foreign policy yet. How much more space will that take up?
FR:
The only way I can see Romney winning the debates is if he gets a personality transplant first. He just comes off as a stiff, humorless phony - a robot who's been programmed to recite meaningless talking points when the correct button is pushed. The only time he has seemed natural was in that devastating video where the contempt he expressed for the American people seemed totally genuine.
How many times to you have to watch the video before you acknowledge that Chris Stevens himself did not want heavy security so that he could have better access to the Libyan people?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/16/world/middleeast/us-ambassador-to-libya-knew-the-ways-of-the-arab-street.html?hp
You say a false thing once, and it might be attributable to misinformation. But when you keep saying it, after having been advised as to the truth, sooner or later it becomes a lie.
What you said, to the extent you are implying that the US didn't adequately protect Chris Stevens, is nothing more than a lie, no joe.
The next time makes you a liar.
Oh, well, now THERE'S news.
Good Morning to all.
I'm not going to gloat as you , the usual childish lefties have done time after time. I have been warning you of surprises that would be coming out this week. I also told you that the ones about Obama and his administration would be more damaging.
In reality Obama and his administration have lied about how things came down in Libya, but it does not stop there. The tape on Obama really saying how he feels on re-distribution and how the government could accomplish it.
Care to wonder why we have not had a recovery, why we are still at 8.1 unemployment, why are we at such a high debt? Never let a crisis go without taking advantage of it?
Guess what lefties (and you know who you are), The big surprise is yet to come out.
I will ask those that do not think like my fellow Liberals (and you know who you are) not to rub it in for them. These kids have no other life than to post their lies on this site.
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Well, how about a few chorus' of "The Party's Over" in honor of both this election and the GOP.
Romney said one thing I agree with when he was joking about if he were Latino it would improve his chances. He said if the party doesn't find a way to attract Latino voters the Republican Party will be in trouble and he is dead-bang correct. They ARE in trouble. They are the party of the past, not the future and that's their problem entirely. That, and their very frightening move to the far right.
Of course it didn't help that he actually said (and I'm paraphrasing) if the Democrats attract the growing Hispanic population the way they attracted the blacks then the GOP is in trouble, and THEN he doubled down and "and so is the country." Bad, call Ripley, bad call. Kind of makes it sound like the Latino and Black populations are a "problem" for the country doesn't it?
I don't know about you but I just can't wait to see what the polling says about the 47% comment. I think Mr. Romney just single- handedly raised that number to well over 50% and I'm proud to be one of them!
WAY TO GO MITT! You've put us over the top! I always knew you could do it.
It must SUCK to be Mitt Romney. (I"ll bet Ann kicked his butt when he got home)
Obama/Biden 2012
How about sharing some of your $millions with the needy and walk the talk Mr. Prez.
Mr. "tax me more Buffett", oh yes, has Warren paid back the $billion plus in back taxes that he's fudging and fighting to avoid for years now? As the lying hypocrites continue grow their noses.
Did anyone catch Jimmy Carters grandson on CNN. Boy the apple dosen't fall far from the tree. The interview matched the worst President in US history! Carter would be proud!
Do you suppose that's what President Obama was thinking when he forced through the Affordable Care Act using political tricks, even though poll after poll indicated that the majority of people did not want it?
Or, perhaps, it was what he was thinking when he told Republicans "We won".
The "Secret Tape" the Media Will Ignore: Obama Praises Redistribution, Talks About Propaganda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge3aGJfDSg4
Almost 200,000 views in less than 24 hours!
Thing is, I don't wonder. It's because corporations have been sitting on mountains of cash and not reinvesting in THIS economy. Either they are doing it deliberately, hoping to throw the election, or they are doing it negligently, at the expense of their shareholders.
It's also because jobs are being sent overseas rather than developed here. It's also because there has actually been a drop in public sector employment, while Reagan used increases in public sector employment to get himself out of his first recession.
If public sector hiring was at the same level it was at during the Reagan recession, the unemployment rate would be about 7 percent. If big corporations were not so bound and determined to see this President fail, it would be even lower.
Think how many jobs the Koch brothers could create, for example, if they invested the same $400 million that they are spending to defeat President Obama into clean energy technologies.
Don't keep us waiting. If you think you've got something, bring it on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge3aGJfDSg4
So THIS is it? LoL If wealth can be viewed as finite in relative terms, any time you help the working classes do better and provide good paying jobs that improve people's circumstances, that has the natural effect of redistributing wealth in the favor of the less fortunate to the detriment of the more fortunate, comparatively speaking.
Or what do YOU think Mitt Romney means when he says he will create jobs? Will that naturally require some redistribution of wealth, relative to the upper classes? Or are you just planning to print money to pay them?
Seriously. You both talk like you have rocks in your heads.
Me too, so stop. People that earn their money aren't evil. If money drives people to success great. Do you realize even if we had no millionaires there would still be a '1%'? Or is it that those that want to drive a 1% vs 99% wedge support communism, theoretically a classless society. Tell you what, like unicorns, it dont exist.
I dont expect to change most of your minds but nonetheless what we are experiencing today is just further sissification of the United States of America. A place where you once had a drive to succeed now we have people no longer entering the workforce, just going straight to unemployment/SS line.
It's time to encourage a business friendly environment, not demonize it. Especially when the person that demonizes said businesses benefits greatly from them.
i say deliberatlely. One word though. OBAMA
First Read said:
Being a statistics guy...I decided to take a look at the sampling that was used.
In Virginia, they used Dem 35, Rep 24, Indy 36...for a sampling of Dem +11!? Independents favor Romney 53-42. Now I can understand a slight positive Dem sampling...but doesn't +11 seem like way too much? I was always under the impression that it was a pretty close split in Virginia between GOP and Dem. Anyone from Virginia wanna chime in?
Wisconsin was Dem 35, Rep 27, and Indy 32...for a sampling of Dem +8. This seems high, although I would expect Wisconsin to be more Dem than Virginia. According to the poll, Independents favor Romney 50-44
Colorado was Dem 30, Rep 31, Indy 35...for a sampling of Rep +1. Pretty even, which seems right although maybe slightly skewed Rep...but I'm just relying on anecdotal evidence. Independents favor Obama 47-46.
Just my $0.02...any thoughts from the peanut gallery?
Happy Wednesday all! :-)
JC-1439099
Romney said quite a bit more than that. Romney said that the 47% who pay no taxes don't want to take responsibility for their own lives. They want the government to provide them "food, housing, you name it." And they're all going to vote for Obama because he's going to fund their parasitic lifestyle, so Mitt the Great isn't even going to bother trying to those freeloaders to vote for him. Romney's off-the-cuff opinion of Americans said a lot more about him than it did about America.
I think any non-billionaire conservative who watches that secret video of Romney's disdain of middle class Americans and still supports Romney is crazy. I mean, to get bit ch slapped like that and still stand by their man, well, that takes a real pathetic loser. Come on conservatives, man up! It's okay to care for yourselves. You deserve better.
Fools Gold…
You’ve lived up to your name!!! “No Representation without taxation”??? how then are the upper 1% so heavily represented??? You, and the rest of the misinformed right feel that just because someone is rich that they are either overtaxed or pay more than the rest of the country combined. Somehow you feel that tax havens and tax evasion are patriotic and someone who doesn’t pay taxes shouldn’t vote….
Personally I think that moronic people shouldn’t vote…guess that eliminates the whole right wing!
Thats all you got? A video from a decade and a half ago? You geniuses need to go back 14 years get something on Obama. With Romney - you go back 4 months. You people are clowns.
Frank, why is there an oversampling of Democrats. I do want to know why. maybe you can shed some light at least to me
Hmmm I trust these NBC polls like I would a muslim with an AK47 behind me!. Total biased BS skewed to their flavor of the day.
geo -- You wrote:
FACT IS it's Romney who's weak. He showed the world how weak and malleable he is when he was willing to CEDE our leadership, thus standing in the world to another.
In case you missed it:
Anyone else want to call this clown out on his ridiculously inept quantitative math skills?
GBM, well said. Romney hides his millions off-shore, then claims he has paid every penny he legally owes. How do we know that. VP Ryan submitted 10 years worth of tax returns to Mitt yet Mitt refuses to release an equal number to the American people he is asking to vote for him. Shameless hypocrit. Trust him? Romney didn't mention the 4,000 Americans who earned $1 million or more and paid ZERO federal income taxes in 2011.
Grumbling about paying taxes is what we Americans do yet when polled about their tax levels, a majority says they pay about the right amount.
Absolutely true, depending on HOW they earn it and what they do with it, then.
And thanks for the affirmation. Now I'm off to earn mine so I can pay my fair share of taxes without being a whiny baby about it. I get tired of listening to that, too.
So, stop.
Frank "Grimey" Grimes, Springfield, USA
Here's my 2 cents: Party identification is not very strong for a lot of people. It can change rapidly, depending on the circumstances. If Mitt Romney were a better candidate, there would be more Republicans in the samples collected. If the survey samples are chosen randomly, the breakdown of party preference should be accurate to within about the same margins of error as the breakdown for candidate preferences.
I dont trust polls (until election day) but yeah i agree NBC does have a negative image which further calls to question their polls.
What they do with it is their business. Like I said quit promoting Communism. It doesnt work and there is proof of that. How they earn it, if illegal will catch up to them but that is an infintesimal number and you know it.
I cant help but to think you are placing emphasis on fair share, which I would love if you can define.
Like I said, those that seem to demonize wealth (those in the public limelight) also greatly benefit from it. Stop with the Class Warfare.
It will be interesting to see which polls are correct.
Ohhh..I've got plenty more Mikey, and so does Team Romney...Axelroid /Obama is going to get schooled.
Hide and watch, like a good little sheeple ;)
Check out realclearpolitics.com if you want to know more than NBC's lapdog reports.
REALITY will always win in the end (no amount of "HOPE" and "moving forward" can change that).
Understand reality before you vote is my suggestion.
49 days and counting down - So looking forward to reading all the post on November 7th from the GOP. There is an old country song that I will have to play on that day " There's and tear in my beer"!
sirie... the ass you're riding on is named MITT ROMNEY.
Your own champions Bill Kristol, Peggy Noonan, Joe Scarborough, etc. have called him out.
Kristol said Romney's comments were "stupid and arrogant."
Romney doesn't even acknowledge the criticism of his own party or the damage he has done himself. He doubled down on his insulting comments by saying that the people he was referring to are "...those that are dependant upon government and those who think government's job is to re-distribute."
Admittedly, there is a segment of the population that can be described as welfare cheats. But Romney confidently lumps almost half the American population into that category. He forgets that we haven't seen his tax returns...he forgets we suspect he is among the 47% who pay no income taxes.
Romney is an idiot, clearly unfit to hold the highest office in the land. Was he really the best you guys could do?
I hope its better than what you clowns have been posting lately. Pretty pathetic I would say.
HARD TO SEE HOW ROMNEY PULLS THIS ONE OUT....
Ok, so let's assume of that 12% undecided, 47% are receiving Social Security or are active duty military. Romney just insulted them by calling them deadbeats. Figure a 2-1 break among them for Obama, because there's always 34% of people who are too dumb to know they've been insulted, and too dumb to vote their own self interests. So, that's another 3.76% for Obama, leaving Romney and Obama splitting the remaining 6.36%, or 3.18% each. That, puts the race at 56-44 going into the debates. Based on Romney's proclivity for foot in mouth, and the fact that he has to defend a program that rewards millionaires and punishes middle class families, this turkey is done. So, let's concentrate our efforts on defeating the Republican Congress that has obstructed American progress.
Geo.....So you think President Obama is weak on foreign policy?.........Guess you wanted so badly to forget about Mitts trip overseas during Olympics , when he even angered our best ally England, that you DID forget about it. Wherever Mitt went overseas he screwed up worse. Mitts only foreign policy is to nuke Iran and go to war against BeckyBeckyBeckystan for war profits!
Geo.....you also forgot...hands down forever...president Bush Jr. will FOREVER be the WORST president ever for all time. What president in his right might would lie a nation and world into war in Iraq for War profits and to be "known as a war president because war presidents are remembered." Oh yeah, Bush will be rembered as the Liar in chief for all time, even outing CIA agent when he was proving the Bush administration lied about Iraq rrying to get "yellow Cake for a bomb. When Bush sr first heard about the outing of CIA agant he called this person who did it a "TRAITOR!" He calls his own son a traitor!
Romney hired 17 of 24 of Bush advisers...why would we want to elect Romney who hires the Bush cabinet from the WORSE PRESIDENT EVER?
Romney has a problem....no common sense. Romney wants to be the worse president ever, so he hires the worse advisers ever! Romney... for a worse today forever!
says the idiot that thinks Romney has an income tax. Something tells me you can't see the greater picture, being myopic and all.
Quit wetting yourself Mike416. What a baby...
Now thats funny! Thanks for the laugh Sirie
The problem with conservatives is that their core philosophy is flawed (making the top 1% richer is not helping us create jobs), and their passion is driven by lying wacko pundits who say anything to get higher ratings. Hence the only possible candidates are morons or flip floppers. You cannot be sane, consistent, and truthful and win in GOP primaries. Hence the GOP's choices were limited, and this is the best they can do. It makes you wonder if the GOP will fade away. You cannot have a political party that hates 47% of tax payers, union members, gays, latinos, blacks, school teachers, intellectuals, women, modern science, muslims, atheists, and a host of other categories that, frankly, add up to America.
Sorry MSNBC......those aren't the numbers I'm reading:
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
Obama
47%
-1
Romney
46%
+1
7-day rolling average
http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx
But nice try anyway!
Looks like the Convention bump - where absolutely nothing but more hopey changey BS was said - is all but dwindled away!
23 million and counting unemployed
5.9T added to debt in 3.75 years
2 credit rating declines
HASTA LA VISTA Obama
Thats right. Romeny wouldnt have an income tax because he doesnt work. Sorry my bad. LOL Clowns! All of you! LOL
These polls were before the "47%" REMARK, NO?????
Reboot...? Reboot?????...No,,,,,,,, republicans already have a name for it....Mr. Etch a Sketch! Romney shaking his etch a sketch failed everything, and now he wants to etch a sketch to try and start over.....Life does not work that way, it only works for those Romney supporters who wished yesterday and days before that never happened. It is the same going forward with Romney. Romney for a worse tomorrow today!
We won't have to concern ourselves with any poll numbers once Hollywood's version, with Obama's coopertion, comes out about how he killed Osama Bin Laden,coming to a theater near you, just before the election. The libs will probably be selling their bumper stickers "Osama Bin Ladin is Dead and GM is Alive" in the lobby. Nope, poll numbers won't matter because we'll all be blown up or overrun, now that the military is being shaved nearly bare. You think that cheesy UTube video made them mad???...Did anyone not notice many of the rioters waving Bin Laden's picture? So, how about America just rubs it in and pokes that sleeping dog. Those radical Muslims will be exacting revenge in spades. They had blood in their eyes. But, what the heck, Obama is willing to risk Americans' lives...and all for votes. Oh yeah, he CARES. What's that Obama likes to say?.....he (and Biden) acted STUPIDLY! Not that Obama gave the go-ahead to kill Bin Ladin, but that they make it their slogan, help Hollywood to make movie to depict it on the big screen, full color (what, no 3D?) and brag and crow about it.....all for votes. So thanks Obama, for CARING. In the aftermath of God knows what carnage is in store for us, Obama will have 100% of the vote...for being an irresponsible JERK!
Going to the eye doctor in Chicago thursday. My little guy had eye surgery and needs a check up. Last time I went I saw a lot of Democrats. None of whom spoke any english. When I went to use my insurance card, they said I had a $25.00 deductalbe. OK fine. the funny thing is that when the non-english speaking Illegals went up to pay they had a guvment issued card with no deductalbe. How long can this possibly last. Chicago is a sanctuary city. Chicago is over a 100 BILLION in debt. Chicago is run by Democrats. Obama is a Democrat. Democrats suck! Romeny is RIGHT! Democrats buy votes! Hispanics are about to be enslaved.
and yet he's rich, now who's the clown. keep repeating it, wont make you any more credible.
Anyways I look forward to another barrage of NBC FR attack articles today. You know NBC the objective newsplace LOL
I will make a bet with Fiesty...If O'bama wins this election, I will never post under this name again. If Mittens wins, you do the same. While I know you have a bit more to lose being paid and all, you should really try to mix it up anyhow. How about Brawny Brunet? Boastful blond? Radical Red?
Cheer leaders for Barrack are looking for the most biased poll to start shaking their legs and have orgasm. Hold your car, you are looking at the wrong poll, go back to reality. I will be less shocking when you lose in November. Democrats had Wisconsin recall in their pocket; Democrats in their poll had the House in 2010 Election. Obama is going down after the jump post- Democrat convention.
POLITICO “Romney Rip---No so Fast" By Glenn Thrush
Romney / Ryan. 2012 For Strong America
One question...
I suggest just doing a search. I think you will find that President Obama spent much of his childhood in several foreign countries. Mitt Romney spent his time at private schools, including one where he viciously attacked one classmate, cutting off his hair.
Boy, that's sure helping our foreign relations, huh?
I see Damage123 and Fools Gold show up one right after the other with their matching Avatars demeaning our POTUS. So fellas, when you two gettin' hitched?
If I found out you masturbated with a Raggedy Ann doll as a youngster, I wouldnt hold it against you. I'm sure we all have things we have done in our youth that we would not consider proper.
The problem with liberals is they have been duped into actually believing that making the top 1% richer has anything whatsoever to do with their core philosophy.
The right is so far right, that the left is now in the middle. WE NEED THE MIDDLE. That includes not only the president position, but the Senate and House too. Else, it will be obstruction as usual for the Republicans. We need to shut down the Kochs, Rove, Norquist, Reed, etc., influences. We need a strong EPA and SEC (Kochs). We need more revenue (Norquist). We need more separation of church and state (Reed). And we need less rhetoric and BS from the right (Rove). We need the success that will come from, and can only come from, the middle.
Obama gets his way to spread the wealth you could be looking at giving half of your home you work for to someone else, sounds like communism, the political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. Another 4 years of Obama will give you Communism..
You can't tell when you're being insulted to your face, apparently.
You actually believe that the leader of this country has a duty to offend our citizens? You actually think anyone can govern a democracy--let alone get elected in the first place-- by insulting and marginalizing half the population? You feel some of us are not 'real' Americans?
You really think... hey, nevermind. The only thing left to say is that we-- the liberals you despise, the President you belittle-- are the future of this country. The haters are on their way out, kicking and screaming as they go. You know who you are...you with the ugly, disgusting comments.
We should all be grateful to have the right to vote, grateful the the U.S.A. is not yet a plutocracy.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
How to Get Rich (NAALCP)
Or
Obama’s Vision for America
“The Breadwinner”
Produce them children
like a bunny rabbit
Never ever get married
Mo sperm donors the better
Keep doing it till you get it right
It’s all mixed up!
Whos’ the daddy, you never know
Was it Barry, Alfons, little Dickey or Jeremiah too!
It’s hard work lyin on yer back
But the pay is Goood
Free food, housing, healthcare, abortions and a cellphone to boot!
Need Mo Money, put hm on disability
Need Mo Money, let Mamma foster care them.
Then I herd Shamicka proudly say, I’m the breadwinner and
I sur love my President!
He’s my Obama money honey!
Obama has bought my vote!
And yet another brilliant mind that equates money with qualitative worth. LOL
We are a Republic. I think O'bama may have insulted half the population by admitting he favors redistribution of income. It depends on your personal view point now doesnt it.
Same Liberal drivel different day ooooobama you've done so much for me exactly what I haven't a clue
Laker Steve: actually, that initial upbringing by President Obama probably has helped our foreign policy. It enabled us to put together a strong coalition which aided the overthrow of despots in Egypt and Libya, without the need to actually commit US troops to a ground war.
What I would like to know is how you think Mitt Romney's privileged upbringing, including getting away with violent assault, will assist the country ?
Mitt Romney's problem, and the problem of the Republican party, is that their basic core philosophy of destroying the government, taking what little the poor have away from them, and giving more money to the already wealthy just does not result in improvement of the United States. No jobs result and, contrary to their thoughts, the end result is actually the destruction of the country.
I saw the full Romney video last night. He said if voted President the economy will automatically improve and he wouldn't have to do anything.
Really??? Lazy Mitt.
Obama/Biden 2012
Mitt Robme is a plutocrat, which is worse than a socialist and way worse than a communist, how in the he!! can you Republicons vote for this guy. He only cares about himself and the 1%ers. and yes Mittens we are tired of wealth redistribution. WE ARE TIRED OF THE RICH TAKING FROM THE MIDDLE CLASS AND POOR, HEY YOU WEALTHY SOB PAY YOUR SHARE OF TAXES AND QUIT MOOCHING OFF THE SYSTEM.
and btw
GAWDAMMIT MITTENS WHERE ARE YOUR TAXES, we know you paid zero in taxes in 2008,2009, you gawdam moocher
The idiocy of Fools Gold and Deitrich is absolutely dumbfounding. They completely and utterly fail to realize everyone pays taxes in some form or another. The interesting part is they represent the complete and utter snobbery of the 53% Club, of which Romney so wants to be the head cheerleader. The stunning arrogance and ignorance of these blind posters is so appalling, one simply wonders if they shouldn't be relegated to another country. Indeed, representation without taxation - name one individual in this country that isn't taxed from birth.
the only poll that will count will be in November!
Lets simplify this discussion. I make 0 dollars for posting here on First Read articles. Fiesty makes....well I dont know. I have asked her this question before, but she refuses to release her financial information. Wouldnt it be fair if the rest of us got a cut from her earnings? We all work just as hard dont we?
Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Mitt Romney has now taken the lead in the swing state of New Hampshire.
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in New Hampshire shows Romney with 48% support to President Obama's 45%. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and three percent (3%) are undecided.
I can Lie, Steal, Cheat, and Divide this Country. I am Mitt Romney, I am Paul (mush mouth Lyin) Ryan, I am the GOP, I am the Teaparty, We together are the American Taliban
Re: Post 1.64:
My 2 cent guestimate: I think when they sampled for this poll, they may have randomly selected Dems,Reps, Indies based on the proportion of registration in each party. Dems are often registered at higher numbers than Repubs, as are Indies/Unaffiliated.
The desperation, anger and downright ugliness we see in some of these comments comes from one side.
Not to point fingers GOP, but if all you have to do today is vent your frustration over your candidate's sorry performance, his failing campaign, and his squandering of your donation money (Romney pretends he's financing his own campaign? There's a laugh!!) may I suggest that you go for a walk instead?
Let the rest of us get about the business of salvaging what decency and brotherhood we have left in this country.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Anyone still wondering, after looking at the major candidates, why the US is in the toilet and being laughed at by the rest of the world?
Watched a 1933 movie last night and it was just comical to hear the right wing rehtoric in the movie, exactly the same as it is today and the comment by the liberal "you can't just water the leaves of the plant and hope the roots will grow" just had me rolling on the floor. That was a long time before the Trickle down Economics name was tagged. Frankly it was sad to hear the script in the movie, it sounded like it was written in 2012 rather than 1933. Isn't it time to move on? Why do we continnue to try to protect the 1%. Love it, those Hitlerists that think some people should vote and others can't. Wow, I wonder if that includes the wealthy that don't pay taxes. And tell me that there is anyone in the US that does not pay some tax, someplace. Every thing we do is taxed. Some states don't have income taxes, does that mean they should not be able to vote. What an idiotic statement and un-American, go away.
And here’s the Wall Street Journal’s editorial page: “Surely a man as smart as the former CEO of Bain Capital can give a better speech on taxes and dependency than he delivered at that fundraiser.
Here's a shocker for the right wing - CEO's and other big paycheck guys REALLY AREN"T ALL THAT SMART!
They're usually hired for their connections, not their thinking ability.
Does that mean they're not actually worth all that money? That it's just a cult of wealth?
You be the judge.
Readers Poll:
1) Is Rmoney trying to throw the election because he thinks he gets to keep all the left over
campaign money? 2) Has Rmoney placed a large wager against
himself to loose the election by a landslide?
It also appears Lying Paul Ryan is in on it. He has placed
$2 million worth of ads running for reelection in his congressional district. I
guess he’s not planning on winning.
From NPR:
By grouping those who don't pay income taxes together with those who he says are "dependent upon government" and therefore support President Obama, Romney has earned "three Pinocchios" from The Washington Post's The Fact Checker. It writes that:
In fact, while Romney seemed to say that the president will draw most of his support from those who pay no income taxes, a Tax Foundation map highlighting the 10 states with the highest percentages of "non-payers" shows most are Republican territories:
— Alabama
— Arkansas
— Florida
— Georgia
— Idaho
— Louisiana
— Mississippi
— New Mexico
— South Carolina
— Texas
hahahaha
Romney insulted his own voters
I am surprised no one found this as offensive as I did. No taxes no vote? So if the government passes laws that removes your liability to pay taxes you can no longer vote? Did you even think of that consequence?
This may sound like hyperbole but it really isn't. What you have stated right there is turning poor people in to second class citizens. Read that over and really think about what it says. You may sneer at all the left posts on this site, but its honestly people like you that drive them. I
I don't CARE what Romney SAYS. I care about what Obama DID (or didn't do if you want to view him through the eyes of campaign promises).
49% of Americans reported they received welfare in the last census (not including Social Security or Medicare). If that's not the true "underemployment" number, we have alot of fraud going on or too many abusing the system. THAT'S what Romney was eluding to. I'm sorry if some of you can't comprehend that, but he was talking to people who didn't need that explained to them in the recording. 49% is WAY too high to sustain.
I hope you're ready for 3/3 of gov't being in Republican hands and in control of structuring your personal health care.
*facepalm* - NOBODY on the right talks about Trickle Down Economics. That's a term tagged and used only by the left. The only true "trickle down" is government handouts or this bitter outcry that the "rich" should send more money to Washington so they can get bigger cuts of the pie themselves.
Good comment, Akeem!
I'm not surprised anymore by right wing 'logic'. It's either self-serving, hypocritical, racist, or willfully ignorant of the consequences, as you just pointed out. Sometimes it's all of the above.
This is why we so desperately need good public education, for everyone.
Meanwhile, while NBC is busy concentrating on the meaningless, Obama has his State Depart. continue lying about the events in Libya and the extent of the security. Please not the part about the RULES OF ENGAGEMENT that called for security to carry WEAPONS WITHOUT BULLETS. now an Ambassador and 3 other Americans are dead because of Obama's neglect
by MICHAEL PATRICK LEAHY 18 Sep 2012 73 POST A COMMENT
In her daily press briefing on Tuesday, State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland admittedthat she provided false information Friday about the State Department's hiring of private security firms for the American mission in Benghazi attacked on September 11th:
Nuland continued with reporters, "There’s nothing else that I have that needs correcting at the moment."
Only four days earlier, at her daily press briefing on Friday, Nuland emphatically denied that the State Department had hired any private firm to provide security at the American mission in Benghazi:
Solid investigative reporting by Wired's Danger Room may have forced the State Department's hand to finally disclose the truth. On Monday, Danger Room strongly contradicted Nuland's claims:
As Breitbart News reported on Tuesday, Blue Mountain Group is a British security firm hired by the State Department to provide security at the American mission in Benghazi. Blue Mountain Group was chosen by State, in part, because it was willing to accept the State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya that prohibited security guards at Benghazi from carrying weapons that contained bullets.
The State Department has refused to release the document that describes the State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya to Breitbart News. On Friday, Breitbart News filed a Freedom of Information Act request to obtain the document.
POLL AFTER POLL AFTER POLL, EVERYDAY THE BRAINWASHING CONTINUES AND THE LAMBS EAT IT UP!
The Media is so left wing biased it's a travesty to the process. You know the Polls are rigged and why must they take one everyday? To continue the onslaught against Romeny, I've never seen anything like it and hope to never see it again against any candidate. They are most definitely piling on.
Come November we'll see how smart the electorate really are; I seriously have my doubts.
All of a sudden, the non-producers, the miscreants who pay nothing in taxes, yet look to get all they can from the government without lifting a finger are mad at Mitt Romney for calling them out.
But. these are the same people who whine and moan about him paying "only" a few million dollars in federal taxes.
As time goes on, and as more people start to understand what Romney was saying at that fundraiser, the polling numbers will change.
He was only saying that about 47% of the population is going to vote for Obama because they feel entitled to something from the government. So, he cannot "worry about them" as he campaigns, because he isn't going to get their vote under any circumstances.
He never said he wouldn't represent them if he was elected, and he never said he was "writing them off' as has been inferred by the news media.
What's more, he spoke the truth about people who feel that the government owes them something and should take care of them. He's not talking about veteran's benefits, or unemployment assistance for people who are out there legitimately looking for work.
He's talking about people who go down to the SS office and take disability benefits when they aren't disabled (Not everybody. But a lot do, and I've seen it!!!!), people who are dependent on welfare, and food stamps, and other forms of government hand outs, instead of getting up off their butts and going to work. (Some people need welfare, I understand that. But many are capable of working and don't.)
These are the people who's votes he knows he's not going to get. So, why bother?
There are a lot of us out here who've been through hard times, and who didn't look to the government to get us through them.
At the end of the day, we are all responsible to take care of our own families, and ourselves first. Anybody who can't see that, or who doesn't understand that is obviously part of that 47% .
As for me, I'm part of the 53% who work, produce, take care of their families, and pay taxes..........and guess what?
Obama hasn't done squat for us!
Democrats for Romney 2012!
Harley Chic -
Your argument is pathetic - the "Secret Tape"... from 14 years ago, wow lame "secret"... the the media will ignore... except for when they addressed previously... in which Obama says "I actually believe in redistribution"... and then when you listen to the rest he says "... to a certain extent, to where everyone has a fair shot"... so your smoking gun is in actuality another lame a$$ "you didn't build that" shot that everyone easily understands as being taken out of context, that merely becomes comedic fodder, and makes your argument look even more foolish.
Long and the short of it is the more that you attempt to make an argument, the more you fail and drive "sheeple" as you call them, away from your side...
I am sure most of your peers would either say please stop, or please just go away.
I'd defend your freedom of choice, so you can do either and be fine by me.
Ahhhhh, another Media Matters "input" to the article, compliments of this administration.
Seems anytime TRUTH is required from this administration, it takes a Freedom of Information Act request to obtain the information (i.e., "Fast and Furious", White House visitor logs, Media Matters connection, etc.). Chicago thug politics at it's height.
Wait a minute.....Mr. Obama promised......:
Then, this administration can always send the SofS or the U.N. Ambassador on media blitzes to cover for Mr. Obama.
WRONG Backhouse...another liberal lie. According to CNBS, YESTERDAY, the average American pays 5.6% in taxes and 50% pay NOTHING. 47% of 50%, thus, pay nothing.
You really think these people on entitlement programs (lazy crack whores, for example) are going to vote for Romney. At least he spoke the truth.
You lie like o'bama's prayer rug.
There could not be better news today!
Obama is going to win,win, win the 2012 Election!!! He is a brilliant politician and President! Go Michelle! Go Biden!!---it's been a great 4 years!
Romney is a Elitist, and has shamefully degraded the Middle Class with his Superior Rich attitude.
Obama/Biden 2012--Go, go---"WINNING"!!!
The lying, left-wing scum are out in full force today. Of course, the wh0res at NBC have just released the latest issue of NBC Pravda. The dishonesty of these so-called "journalists" is almost funny.
You have only to note the organizations that the NBC wh0res AND OBAMA cite as their "sources". You need only to select one of these "sources" and type it into a search engine (adding the word SOROS) to reveal the foul stench of the Marxist convicted felon that holds Obama's leash. After all, he also holds the leashes of much of the mainstream media in his blood-stained, liver-spotted hands.
They perpetuate the LIE that Romney called 47% of the country "deadbeats".
Retirees and the military know that Romney is with them. The military also KNOWS that the Republicans have ALWAYS had their backs and that the Democrats, that are now trying to USE them for political reasons, are the SAME low-lifes that were spitting on them when they returned from Viet Nam.
They realize that the "deadbeats" referred to are the crack wh0res, gangbangers, welfare frauds, tax cheats, junkies, and baby mamas that ARE the Democratic Party.
They, along with other ardent Obama supporters such as The Socialist Party of America, The Communist Party USA, Hamas, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ARE Obama's base.
ZMan2012
soldiers in combat don't pay their federal income taxes - are you calling them non-producers, and the miscreants as well?
ZMan2012
Can you give me proof that Mitt Romney has paid federal income taxes every year? If you cannot provide his income tax returns, I'll settle for Romney saying "I paid FEDERAL INCOME tax every year up to 2010" (2010 since Romney is still "working" on his 2011 returns).
I'll bet 10,000 Romney bucks you cannot provide either one.
Can we see yours? I mean, really, scan in that 1040 short form
Republican desperation is way up. I can tell by reading the posts here. Calling the President by his middle name has increased 50%. Desperation among Romney/Republican apologists here is up 50%.
My question to Romney/Republican apologists is this. When will you tire of defending Romney lies and Republican efforts to slow the growth of our economy and cut taxes for those rich people that pay you so well?
Jobs bill blocked, infrastructure bill blocked, what other Republican accomplishments can you brag about?
These last 2 years have seen little if any help from Republicans to speed the recovery from that horrible 2008 recession. Don't you realize that all this talk about budget deficits and the national debt is not what you talk about with unemployment above 8%. The solutions to these long term problems cannot be solved if you increase unemployment by cutting spending in a high unemployment economy. Laying off government workers will only slow our growth and prolong the recovery. This is STUPID.
If we increase the growth rate of our economy, unemployment goes down, government's unemployment costs go down, revenue from taxes goes up. This is how you reduce budget deficit and unemployment rate at the same time. To increase the growth rate, we invest in needed infrastructure (we always do this in recession and recovery). The rich will not invest their money in expanding their companies until their sales outpace their productivity gains.
That is how it works. It's called macroeconomics. It is no secret. Check it out.
Reality Check-1104333
hahaha, that's your way of explaining Mitt's lying by omission?
How about Mitt saying he paid FEDERAL INCOME tax every year - I'll settle for that first. Since Romney has a degree in business from Harvard, he should have no problem understanding the significance of those two little words: "federal + income."
So Mitt is either really stupid or he is lying by omission because no one deliberately avoids saying "I paid FEDERAL INCOME tax" for 20 years.
Zman -- Read. These are the people who REALLY need you to carry their water. Right?
Contrary to what you believe. Democrats work hard. They run businesses and PAY TAXES. They worked hard for their retirement and they served are country with honor. These are the Democrats that will never vote for someone like Romney. He thinks they are freeloaders. What ass he is.
correction above: Should read our country. Not are.
Too easy. Not every issue involves taxes. Some are purely social issues. And some of the people not paying them now have paid a heck of a lot of taxes in their lives. Many of them more than you. And some of them have given their service to this country so that you could be free to be such a carpy.
Tell your parents and grandparents that you feel that way.
Tell it to the disabled Iraq War vet living under that bridge.
Better yet, tell it to your servants.
What a moran.
LoL Can't defend your view of it anymore, can you?
Deitrich,
Because they're still effected by the policies put in place by elected officials. It sounds like you're advocating for a poll tax. Yeah, let's only let the people who can afford to, vote. That will result in fair and just legislation. Great idea.
Everyone Else,
This breaks down the 47% pretty good.
http://www.businessinsider.com/mitt-romneys-47-who-are-dependent-on-the-government-2012-9
I feel like that's all that needs to be said.
Obama is a liberal star and "godlike" creature until he runs out of our money!
“Takers” conversation on
October 8, 2009 with Ken Rogulski reporting on WJR in Michigan
Rogulski: Why are you here?
Taker Female #1: To get some money.
Rogulski: What kind of money?
Taker Female # 1: Obama money.
Rogulski: Where’s it coming from?
Taker Female: Obama.
Rogulski: And where did Obama get it?
Taker Female #1 I don’t know his stash. I don’t know. (Laughter) I don’t know
where he got it from, but he givin’ it to us, to help us.
Taker Female #2 and we love him. That’s why we voted for him!
Taker’s (chanting) Obama! Obama! Obama! (laughing)
This unfortunately
represented the views of the “Taker’s” in the good ole days when every thing
was given and nothing was expected except your vote for the Progressives.
“Takers” conversation on October 8, 2012
with Ken Rogulski reporting on WJR in Michigan. “Them Chickens have come home
to roost. “
Rogulski: Why are you
rioting?
Taker Female # 1 No Damn welfare
Taker Female #2 We worked for it!
Rogulski: You worked for it?
Taker Female #2 Yea, we supported Obama, the Democrats
Rogulski: Why steal, murder, rape and plunder?
Taker Female #1 They said, we didn’t have to
Rogulski: Have to what?
Taker Female #1 Work!
Rogulski: Where did the money come from?
Taker female #2 I don’t know, Obama’s Stash
Takers (chanting) We earned it, we want it,
give it to me!
Rogulski: Stay back, I didn’t do anything!
Rogulski: Help! Help! (Gurgle sound, inaudible, silence)
Takers(s): We got Whitey, we’ll get Zimmerman!
The largest landslide in American presidential history was when Reagan beat Carter. Carter had a bad economy and high unemployment). Carter only one Georgia (just barely) and Washington DC. I don't think the way this country is divided, that is likely to happen anytime soon. If shows you have no credibility to anything you say. Quit wishing and present facts. The only person that is doing the taking is Obama and redistributing it, Just like he said in his own words. I notice MSMBC didn't bother to put that clip out.
Marchant, really what exactly has he done for you
Why are all of you on both sides so excited about this poll? I mean, it's NBC, you know the folks with the brown noses who are openly camapigning for Obama. Gallup, which leans left, has it 47-46% Obama; I believe that to be much more realistic.
I can readily believe that.
But you might have, if he had never done it at all.
Because when a candidate officially climbs over 50 percent and the margin of error drops to 1 or 2 points, that means the undecideds no longer count.
Why is our muslim president turning his back on our best ally, Israel!
My brother and his family live in Jerusalem - he is a minister - his office is close to one of Israel 's largest underground military bases.
He called me last night which is very unusual - usually it is email.
He called to tell me that he is sending his family back to the US immediately due to what he is seeing happen within the last week and what he is being told by his military contacts in both the Israel and US military.
He said he is seeing with his own eyes military movements the likes of which he has never seen in his 20+ years in Israel .
What he called a massive redeployment and protective tactics of forces is underway.
Over the last two days he has seen anti-aircraft missile deployments throughout the Jerusalem area including 3 mobile units that he can see from his office windows.
In addition, he has seen very large Israeli armored columns moving fast toward the Sinia where Egypt has now moved in Armor.
There are reports of the top military leaders meeting with Israel 's Sr. Rabi which is something that has happened preceding every prior military campaign.
His admonition is to watch carefully and pray for Israel and its people.
He is convinced that barring something extraordinary Israel will attack Iran - with or without the US - and very soon.
It is the belief in Israel that Obama does not stand with Israel but with the Arab countries.
He has told me before that Israel will saber rattle from time to time but that this time is very different from what he is seeing and hearing.
He was at the Wailing Wall 2 days ago and there were hundreds of IDF soldiers there. As he was leaving he passed at least 20 military buses full of soldiers in route to the wall.
He has never seen this before either.
Just thought I would pass this along.
My brother is not an alarmist by any means.
When he talks like this it gets my attention for sure and usually I find he knows more than he shares.
There are reports that Israel is asking Obama to come to Israel immediately but they are being answered with silence.
My opinion is that I see the making of the perfect storm.
Sep 11, 2012
Does anyone smell fire???? Ahhh, that must be Romney's campaign going down in flames.
By the way you Rombots, foxbots, Limbag followers and teabaggers guess what.... MITT ROMNEY PAYS NO INCOME TAX WHAT SO EVER NONE ZILCH ZIP NADA. Does he include himself in the 47% who don't pay income tax? Of that 47% a LARGE majority are seniors. There must be atleast 2% within that 47% that don't pay income tax because they pay capital gains taxes (AND ARE WORKING AGE) and therefore don't pay FICA either. He and his ilk are the drain on society. Mittens should not receive medicare/aid or social security either.
Nazrite plagiarizing again - just type in the the above into Google, and see the thousands of hits of where this right-wing bullcrap is being posted.
The thing that is so telling here is just this one thing. We all see it, we all know it, the polls say it, but as long as you deny what this rommey guy is doing you can't hope to fix the problem (in this case the election). Denial is an important and difficult hurdle to get over but hating other people while denying what your prophet is saying means you can't move ahead with your agenda. Go slap the guy/robot (I laugh at te way he walks..looks just like R2D2 walking accross the stage) and get him on track. Oh wait we don't know what track you follow, the Rove/Grover crap or the GOP hard line or the Tea Party stupidicy or what the heck do you guys stand for anyway? Make up your mind and tell us, you allready told us you hate Obama but that isn't enough, you have to stand for something, something for pete's sake.
Does this poll mean Biden is voting for Romney?
Romney is wrong about the 47%, RobMeHood remarks to wealthy Billionaire donors at a private fundraiser, RobMe said 47% of Americans pay no taxes and believe the Government has a responsibility to care for them and are entitled to Social Security, Health care, to food, to housing. RobMeHood goes on to say all Americans should take personal responsibility and care for their lives and stop taking Government handouts. Washington poll - Who doesn't pay and why, 42% of the 47% are retired seniors, low-wage workers, house wife's, children, military Veterans handicap from wars, this is the bulk of those who Romney is talking about that pay no taxes, this is beyond insanity, Mitt Romney is heartless the way he looks at our Country !!!
American Airlines layoffs combined with the coal miners laid off today really shows just how much this economy is NOT improving. fuel prices double in last 4 years, insurance costs rising because f new rules that are going into effect, utility rates rising, people on food stamps increased by almost 40%, the American flag being torn down and al-Qaeda's flag being flown over our embassies. AND yet there are still idiots that will vote for a president that stated energy costs would necessarily increase dramatically, anyone in coal would be bankrupted due to fees, and he would fundamentally transform America. So how is it going having our embassies attacked, ambassadors killed, inflation rising faster then earnings can ever compensate and more people left with little hope as they have a harder and harder time finding a decent job??? MANY MANY people have received change, very very few have hope with no decent job prospects in sight or any way to predict how they will support their families.
Yet Mitt Romney and the Republicans apparently forgot that redistribution is a part of CAPITALISM, no Communism. Whenever somebody spends money or pays taxes, money is redistributed to another sector of the economy, like the government or the auto industry or the retail industry. And by the way, Romney does not oppose redistribution; he likes it when it is redistributed UPWARDS.
Republicans always bitch about wealth redistribution and how the "communist liberals" want to take from the "givers" (as Paul Ryan calls them) and give to the "takers." Numerous Republicans, like John McCain, criticize people who argue for a more equal playing field and a more economically equal society. And this argument works pretty well, as it resonates both economic conservatives and supply-siders AND independent moderates. However, Republicans fail to tell the American people that their "beloved free market" ALREADY REDISTRIBUTES wealth. Much of the money a person makes goes to pension or 401ks, goes to local restaurants, mom-and-pop stores, and large retailers, not to mention gas stations. In fact, redistribution of wealth is the very essence of capitalism. Now, you conservatives (like Jim Spence) may argue that the government should not do what the private sector can do (aka offer services like education and/or healthcare) and that wealth redistribution is unfair, but you fail to admit that YOUR POLICIES have redistributed wealth. Every @!$%#ing income and investment income tax cut has sucked wealth to the 1% of Americans, allowing them to more than double their share of total national income. In fact, Republicans (with the possible exception of the New Deal) have pulled off the largest redistribution ploy IN THE HISTORY of the United States. They undermined the New Deal, weakened what remained of it, and let the economy collapsed due to massive tax cuts for capital gains (which, if you check the history, can often cause investment bubbles) and deregulation. This is the biggest scam in the history of the world; the supply-side scam.
And by the way, I am a FIRM believe in wealth redistribution. And I'm not ashamed to say it. Wealth redistribution is okay in moderation and when it is done for the common (or collective) good. And conservatives, enough with your "communist" accusations. Adam Smith even advocated for helping out the disadvantaged (which requires wealth redistribution via taxation), and YOU also support wealth redistribution; you're just keeping quiet so nobody realizes that you support it when it goes TO the 1%.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
Ok...for one, all you people that think the republican platform is about 1% need to clean out your ears and actually listen. It is about freedom, it is about jobs, it's about the economy, it's about Americanism instead of socialism.
Secondly...I can't believe the media is insisting on continuing to report these old video's while our embassies across the globe are under attack. Pakistan has 50,000+ protesting the United States...and we've funded these extremists for years.
What does the white house come out with? We should keep funding them. You have to be kidding me!
The ineptitude of this leadership on foreign policy is amazing. That is enough right there for newsstories for days.
The administration MISSED the warnings from Libya about an imminant attack?? (why...because Obama was skipping all his security meetings). Eric Holder is either a criminal, or he is completely useless as the head of any department. The economy continues to tank and gas prices continue to increase.....
Yet, NBC is still talking about a video.
First Read authors should turn in any press credentials they may have since they have completely neglected their duty.
Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Brooke Brower...do everyone a favor and go work for the national enquirer.....that's about as reputable as you misleading clowns can handle.
HEY GREAT NEWS...........obama has the election in the bag! Hugo Chavez has come out and endorsed him saying "I would vote for him!" Only one problem though, obama has to get him into the US illegally and have him registered to vote fraudulently......Oh wait, that should be no problem for THIS president!
How about this - get Chavez legal in the US, run him for president in four years after obama's next term is over, get obama as Chavez's VP, then we can all celebrate with a TRULY "out-from-the-closet" Socialist government! HOW GREAT WOULD THAT BE!
Romney seems proud of the fact that on the one tax return he's released, he paid not one penny more than the tax code requires. Yet he denigrates those who don't have an income tax payment because the tax code doesn't require it. So what does that say about Mitt and his world view?
The RWNJs always falsely claim that we liberals hate rich people. But we don't, unless you think "hating" means that we think they should pay the same tax rate that they did under Clinton.
Obviously though, the Republican standard-bearer has nothing but destain for those in the "other half" of the country.
This is exactly why Mitty needs to get his taxes out where they can be analyzed! Let's find out EXACTLY how dependent Mitty and Queen Ann are on the American people!
We still need to see Willard's tax returns from the past 5 years. It must be great to not to pay your fair share. I wonder what he is hiding, because It is a biggie.
The only reason so many of you people want to see Romney"s tax returns is because so many of you would like to KNOW WHAT ONE LOOKS LIKE. You people are all about distractions. The economy still sux and our people are being murdered by filthy savages in the Mid East.
RTFS -- Great point. Congress wrote and passed these tax laws. The right are beating up people for following the TAX LAWS. They all take advantage of these same credits and deductions afforded to the working man and then they have a whole SPECIAL SET OF TAX LAWS they take advantage of. Those special laws were written just for them.
Job1 - I believe there will be no cheating or tax evasion, but the reason he is hiding his 2010 and prior years tax returns is that the numbers themselves will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this guy is not just rich, but crazy rich. He knows that will totally blow his claim to be 'one of us' out of the water. The 2011 return will do the same thing. He just was not smart enough to know that if he got all this out of the way in April, it would be long forgotten. Instead, he put it off until right before the election. If this is any indication of his business acumen, it makes me wonder how the hell he made all his money. It sure wasn't due to his intelligent strategy decisions, because this one was just nuts.
LOL but I would also say they want to see them so they can further whine about his wealth. Its not fair? then grow a pair, get some ambition and get some.
Nothing. It does, however, say that he doesn't believe that a 20% tax reduction will sway people who pay no taxes to vote for him.
Conservatives don't claim that liberals hate rich people... they claim that liberals think the rich should give more of their money to government so that the government can provide more and more and more services and benefits to liberals.
If this is any indication of his business acumen, it makes me wonder how the hell he made all his money.
One thing we are learning from Mitt and Donald Trump - it doesn't take intelligence to get a lot of money. It take inheritance and a disdain for average people, and a willingness to work with others in your class to enrich yourselves at the expense of America.
If Romney loses - look for him to renounce his citizenship for tax reasons.
Ancient Prophesy
There once existed in
Central America a highly advanced Mayan Culture. They were noted for the only
fully developed written language of Pre-Columbian America. They excelled at
art, architecture, mathematics and astronomy. The Maya Calendar was very
sophisticated and extremely accurate. Their Calendar predicted the end of the
world in the year of my lord, 2012. Did the Mayan’s know of the coming of
BaRack Husein Obama? How could they know that a charismatic historic
transformative man lacking wisdom would arise? Those Mayan intellectuals must
have been aliens. How could any man accurately predict that future? The
prophecy was so grim, that in panic they fled from their cities hundreds of
years before his coming.
Most prophecy is very vague, so anything they have said or written could be
construed as true. These prophets are often deceased for hundreds of years
before their predications become realized. We are soon to witness the wisdom of
the Mayans, expressed many years ago.
Atop the Mayan temple
many important procedures were undertaken.
Mayan Priests performed the first open heart surgery. Using a flint knife, they
cut open the chest of those sacrificed and held up the still beating heart to
the delight of the crowd. Then the sacrificed moved on to the next stage.
The Mayan created many inventions still used today. Most notably was the early
form of the “Chop a matic”. With just one swipe of your hand, the head of those
sacrificed would be cleanly cut. I was sold on the product after the first
demonstration shown on the Mayan Home Shopping Network. The Mayan Priest and
gathered crowd watched with delight as the severed head bounced down the steps
of the temple. Children learned math by counting the number of bounces made by
the severed sacrificial heads. In unison they counted out loud - 1, 2, 3, 4, -
- - - - - - - - -. A new show was started called “As the head bounces”. It was
the number one educational program on Mayan Public Theatre. (MPT)
How could the Mayan’s
predict our doom but not their own? A recent discovery at a Mayan Temple
yielded information on the end of their culture around 900 AD.
The following words were the last ever carved in Stone by the Mayan’s:
“Liberals took over; many people stopped working, depended on government” the
final words were “king emptied treasury, and went broke”. The Liberals in Mayan
Government at first was pleased with this early form of “Social Justice”. It
guaranteed forever they thought the support of the people. They created the
original “Takers”. The remaining producers were taxed and regulated until they
could no longer carry the financial and moral burdens of society. The Mayan
King had emptied the treasury to appease the takers and the civilization
collapsed. The ancient Takers then rioted, demanding social justice. The riot
turned violent, with the Takers robbing, killing, raping and doing all kinds of
insidious activities. Once stolen supplies were depleted, with no producers
left to support them, the people of the Taker Tribe had no choice but to
abandon the cities and blend into the countryside, forever searching for someone
to blame.
The Mayan culture
disappeared well before the arrival of the Spanish Europeans. Unlike many
ethnic groups, they had no other racial groups to blame for their shortcomings.
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Nothing. It does, however, say that he doesn't believe that a 20% tax reduction will sway people who pay no taxes to vote for him."
But it also means that the point of the tax cut is to enrich the rich, not to improve the economy or create jobs. That is honest, but not the message he gives to the poor conservative base.
"liberals think the rich should give more of their money to government so that the government can do more for liberals."
That's the claim, but it is a stupid one. Spending increases were higher under the GOP government of Bush & company. Spending has nothing to do with taxes. And the government spends way more on rich people than on poor people (all of welfare is just $20b). Those of us who want tax increases are those who can do arithmetic, and who can remember all the way back to 2000 when we had a giant surplus.
Actually I want to see them to see if he paid a lower tax percentage than I did. If he did - I find it ridiculous that a multimillionaire pays a smaller % of his income than I do (no where near a millionaire).
When poor and elderly people dont pay income taxes because they dont make enough - they are called parasite.
When millionares dont pay income taxes - they are considered smart law abiding citizens.
You people are clowns.
nazarite - your analogy (and history) is terribly flawed on a number of points, but just remember this one prior to Obama - every Democratic president since WW2 has lessoned the national debt as percent GDP; every bit of the huge debt explosion was the fault of Reagan and the two Bushes. Clinton set us on a path to zero debt by 2011.
Get it? The crazy irresponsible ones have been Republican conservatives. True, Obama did not balance the budget yet, but look at Romney's budget plan - it increases the deficit short term and doesn't pretend to balance the budget for 10 more years!!!! How can you blame Obama for not balancing it in 4 years from the midsts of the worse economic crisis since Hoover?
This are facts. Another fact is that Romney thinks middle Americans are crap. Why be a pathetic loser? Be a man and vote against him.
do you have a job?
if yes you paid an income tax. Doubt you're going to see an income tax from Romney since he doesnt have an income.
no they are not, its people like you that perpetuate that lie.
now say that looking in the mirror
If he doesnt have income and doesnt pay income tax? Doesnt that categorize him with the same leeches he is referring to? Along with poor people and old folks?
FACT: The majority of the 47% he was referring to are old people on SS and poor people who live around the poverty line. Just because your pea brain cant comprehend it doesnt make it fallacy.
Derp derp - what are you 10 years old? Nice witty response. Real jeopardy contestant here.
you lack of understanding and over emotional responses doesnt make you credible. just foolish.
calling people clowns is highly intellectual. what wit you possess. You're dismissed
I don't think Romney takes issue with people having enough deductions to pay no taxes as much as those who are content to stay there...there are plenty of folks working their butts of to scrape by and probably have a low tax obligation(although I still think everyone should have to pay something) but he's referring to those who have no desire to improve or to do better or to work harder or learn more...like inner city folk content to waste their food stamps on beer and cigarettes.
My lack of understanding that I probably paid more taxes as a percentage of my income or worth than Romney did - who is worth millions? Stop spinning your little mind.
I called you what you are. Your retort was "I know you are but what am I". I'll go IQ for IQ, college degree for college degree and put my work record against yours any...day... of the week. 10 bucks says this lazy liberal owns you in every category.
and you would still be in error in your thinking.
who likely paide millions. Im sure you paid thousands. You're a baby, entitled, class warfare brat.
is that like saying my dick is bigger than yours HAHAHA? You're a fool but how bout this. I'll quote Will Hunting. You spent 100k on an education that you could have gotten for a buck fifty in late charges at the public library. APPLESAUCE.
I love it when a hard lefty brings up how Ubersmart they are and 5 out of 4 times are idiots.
When is Nazarite going to be kicked off this site for plagiarizing?
Romney is a tax evading draft dodger that hates half of America. He has proven it.
Who wants to vote for the hating, evading dodger? Anyone?
Ha...OBAMA is also worth Millions. Roughly 12 ish.....And his wife spent 10 million of taxpayer money on vacations over the last year. During the last 2 years Romney paid 6.2 million in taxes. 6.2 million. Can't say he isn't supporting the country. He also paid 15% of his income to charity. How much did Obama pay? 1%...yep that right 1%. (oh that right, he would rather redistribute YOUR money!) In 2008 Obama made the comment that Republicans are bitter voters who cling to guns and religion.... Sounds oddly like the Democratic National Convention's platform.
Polls are tightening up! GO ROMNEY/RYAN! Speak more truth!
Since you love your stereotypes .. why not cite the outer city mid-west white meth addicts that use food stamps to buy ingredients to do some 'cookin'? We can only assume it is to close to home..now take your piece of trailer trash butt and run back to your cooker and stir that pot. We don't want to see your home explode like your heroes campaign.
Oh my God .. the right are so desperate, they are resorting to citing the National Enquirer for facts. Poor losers - what's next, channeled messages from Madam Zelda. Personally, I find the articles from National Enquirer about Ann Romney and her birthing babies from Mars more interesting.
"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. ----Mitt Romney May 2012
Here is where Romney is so far out of touch with what's going on in America that he should not be a viable choice for president. He is basically saying that 2/3rds of that 47% are a liability because they don't make enough money to be required to pay income taxes although they work for a wage and pay payroll taxes as well as state and local taxes. He says they feel entitled to free health care even though many buy health insurance through their employer. I can see why he feels as though they are a liability since they don't make enough money simply because of the Bush policies which he plans to emulate that cut their earnings and force many of them to be laid off from their jobs.
Romney says he could do better but his track record is to close plants in this country and send the work to China. I don't see how that helps anyone but Romney.
Chicago MOBpolitics...you can not run on you sorry record..belittle the other guy with lies and innuendos!!
Our fearless leader, the chosen one, the messiah --only has the Barney Fife type of security(except for himself)....Americans can only shoot beanbags.. not even a bullet in the pocket...ask the parents of dead HERO -Agent Brain Terry!!
If armed Marines had of been the security, the headlines would be...Americans kill, rape and mutilate defenseless children and women...Ask Jon Kerry ( UNFIT FOR COMMAND) about his lies to Congress in 1971!!!!. Anti-Americans show up in many forms...ETERNAL VIGILANCE is required and all due caution expected to be afforded by our leaders!!!! THAT is too much to ask of the Chicago MOB!!!
Can I write off my dog as a "Therapy Dog" like Mr. Romney did for Ann's therapy horse ($77k)? After all I have been ill for two years fighting off all sorts of precancer, cancer, missing organs now.
Obama/Biden 2012
Please refrain from lying when you post (I realize that is a difficult proposition for a liberal). He didn't denigrate anyone; he pointed out that they (non-income tax payers) don't see a reason to support him because he won't reduce their tax burden, but he will try to reduce the burden on those of us that do pay taxes.
Noncoms
Your statements are totally false. Obama has spent more than all the previous Presidents combined to the tune of $5 TRILLION! Taxes have nothing to do with spending? To stay within in your means they do, but you're right, under this President they don't because he prefers the Chinese Credit Card, never mind that it costs more to use but it's more convenient. With the Card, he doesn't have to worry about available funds.
You can do arithmetic? Great. Can you be logical? If you have a body of men who are habitual spenders and have exhausted all the tax funds they are responsible for, would it be logical to increase their revenue so they can continue their ways, or should you contain the spending and start cutting their debt? Which avenue will get you to that balanced budget you speak of?
Also, if the implication is to give a "tax cut", to whom should that be directed? Would it make sense to give it to those who don't pay a tax (we're talking income tax), or should it be to those who pay the majority of the tax? Which is fair and practical?
Vince, can you do the math??? If it were true that Obama has spent $5 trillion (which is debatable that it was all Obama's doings) and the national debt is $15 trillion then take the 5 from 15 and you have $10 trillion from the other presidents combined.
The problem with your math and the math of the rest of those on the right is you fail to see that the major problem is the debt that Bush left Obama has to have interest paid on it to the tune of $380 billion a year when Obama took office.
Another thing you fail to understand is that the wars and defense budget that Bush started has to be paid at another $711 billion not counting the rebuilding of Iraq.
Add those up and you come up with nearly a trillion dollars a year extra that was caused by Bush every year under Obama's term. Then you add the piss poor economy Bush left Obama with tax cuts for the wealthy it comes out that there is very little money to run the government including paying the worthless POS we call a congress.
Here's what I don't understand about Romney's statement about the 47% who pay no Federal income tax:
When I was in high school, a long time ago, we had a unit in math class called "set theory."
Romney says that the set who pay no Federal income tax is identical to the set who will vote for Obama, and is thus lost to him.
What about the people who do pay Federal income tax and will vote for Obama?
What about wealthy Democrats and Independents?
What about working, salaried Democrats and Independents?
Not the lazy, moochers who think they are entitled to food, housing and medical care for goodness sake!
What is there in Romney's rhetoric or policies (insofar as they have been made known to us) that is attractive to that set of voters who are leaning towards the Liberal agenda and do pay Federal income tax?
As so often happens, I am puzzled by Romney's assertion that the 47% who pay no Federal income tax is the same 47% who seem to be committed Liberals.
Must be he believes that anyone who does pay Federal income tax is a Conservative.
Therefore, he has already got the election in the bag with 53% of the vote, no?
colorado man -- Your tax burden will INCREASE under Romney. That's the truth.
Madeline,
The bottom line is that it doesn't really matter. Romney was simply using hyperbole (something anyone on the Vine should be incredibly familiar with) to try to get potential donors to contribute to the cause. It wasn't meant to be factually accurate, it was intended to convey the idea that he needed the money to go after the undecided voters.
Larry 226
Thank you for catching me doing the same thing I accused Noncoms of, I was wrong and I apologize, I am guilty of using a sound bite without doing my homework. So let me make my point using information from PolitiFact of New Jersey.
Previous 43 Presidents total Public Debt $6.307 Trillion Jan 20, 2009
Total Debt $10.60 Trillion
Obama
Projected end of fiscal 2013 Public Debt $12.636 Trillion Sept , 2013 (Obama + = $6.329 Trillion) One Term
Total Debt $17.5 Trillion
If you feel this is good for America, give him another 4 years and let's see if he can out do himself.
Maybe the President is shooting to set a record debt that will never be broken by any future president...'Obama-Fluke'...They're Number One !!!
x
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What a deep and moving comment!
Yup - and shows his true inner-self - completely empty of coherent thought. But he does love to go on about nobody pays any taxes except for him, Romney, and his fellow GOPTP.
and here I thought it was the reason for the grumpiness (sic, literally!)
. = cramps?
Fool's Gold, that's the most intelligent thing I have ever seen you post! Please keep it up.
09-19-12
The newest research from Nate has it as the NOV 6 factors:
“Obama chance of winning 74.9% Romney 21..7%”
“Projected Winner Obama 302.6”
“Projected Loser Romney 235.4”
Popular Vote:
Obama 50.9% Romney 48.0%
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However, if the election was being voted in “Now Cast” Today:
Totals
“Obama chance of winning 90.3% Romney 9.3%”
“Projected Winner Obama 318.8”
“Projected Loser Romney 219.2”
Popular Vote:
Obama 51.3% Romney 47.4%
Not even close!
Romney wins by landlslide popular vote with 53% and also racks up 320 electoral votes vs barry obrainless with 218....sorry!
University of Colorado Professors Ken Bickers and Michael Berry (both DEMODORKS) have quite a set of bragging rights up their sleeve – namely, they’ve devised a mathematical model of the Electoral College that has predicted every Presidential race correctly since Ronald Reagan won the Presidency in 1980.
And despite recent polls showing the presidential race deadlocked both nationally and in key swing states, Bickers and Berry‘s model shows a race that isn’t even close. According to them, not only will Mitt Romney win, but he will win big, taking 320 Electoral Votes to President Obama’s 218 – a result almost as decisive as President Obama’s win against Senator John McCain in 2008.
To predict the race’s outcome, the model uses economic indicators from all 50 states and it shows 320 electoral votes for Romney and 218 for Obama, according to The Associated Press. The model also suggests that Romney will win every state currently considered a swing state which includes Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota, New Hampshire and Colorado.
LOL
Got to had it to you guys, you do a great job of even lying to yourselves. :D
Ticked off in Ohio, that University of Colorado poll/study has already been debunked along with their methodology. Using their new model, they are falsly advertising the claim they have "predicted the last 8 elections correctly". They went through the past 30 years of elections and used their flawed method to "predict" or force their method to conform to the results! Bull@!$%#! They haven't predicted anything yet-it's a new model filled with some very huge flaws. It's a total bull@!$%# methodology. Go ahead and hang your hopes on it. I'll stick with Nate Silver@538 each and every time.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own." ;-)
Obama/Biden 2012
Good Morning to all.
I’m not going to gloat as you, the usual childish lefties have don time after time. I have been warning you of surprises that would be coming out this week. I also told you that the ones about Obama and his administration would be more damaging.
In reality Obama and his administration have lied about how things came down in Libya, but it does not stop there. The tape on Obama really saying how he feels on re-distribution and how to the government could accomplish it.
Care to wonder why we have not had a recovery, why we are still at 8.1 unemployment, why are we at such a high debt? Never let a crisis go without taking advantage of it?
Guess what lefties (and you know who you are), The big surprise is yet to come out.
I will ask those that do not think like my fellow Liberals (and you know who you are) not to rub it in for them. These kids have no other life than to post their lies on this site.
HuffPost Model Estimate
Currently tracking 453 polls
Updated about 2 hours ago
The only poll I look at is Rasmussen. They predicted the Wisconsin recall vote almost exactly while the Huff Post, Daily Kos, NBC, CBS, etc. all had Walker losing.
They also nailed the Brown senate election in Mass a few years ago when the liberal polls had the other guy winning.
And most importantly, they were dead on when Bush was losing in all the liberal polls in 2000 and 2004.
I actually have predicted the previous 6 presidential races correct using gut instinct. I called Obama, Bush & Bush (even though I cant stand him), Clinton and CLinton and Bush Sr.
Looks like Im just as accurate as those guys.
If you're following Rasmussen,...just a little tip to check,...
They didn't tighten up and become 'accurate' until 4 days prior to the election. All summer of 2008 they had McCain ahead or tied. Even THIS week in 2008 = Deadheat,...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2008
Good Luck with that,...I too will take Nate Silver over any of 'em every day of the week. The CONSISTENCY is worth far more than the 'final' claim,...
Rass needs it to be a 'race' to keep the pubbies from jumping over a ledge. Which this thread today indicates is a possible outcome if the heads a popping doesn't kill 'em first.
People, ask yourself, Why is there a poll everyday? . . . . . . Why does the Media continue to put a poll in your face everyday of the week? Because they want to reassure you that THEIR CANDIDATE, Obama is in front and going to win. They are sending you repetitive signals so you'll be good little sheep and follow their lead.
Notice how the Media takes a shot at Romney every chance they get? It's by design folks. They must be awfully worried because the bu rage is escalating.
Romney's awkwardness is because he's not a career politician, he's a stellar businessman but his upbringing gets in the way of him being "your typical politician". Those of you who come down on him hard do so for a variety of reasons, but mostly because he is wealthy you are not. Is he flawless, NO.
What history tells us about politicians out of Chicago, one needs to be careful. Ever hear of beware of smiling faces? The voters don't want to hear about the pain they must endure to get this country back on track, but it's not going to happen any other way, we also know that is a historical fact.
You're being bated; be careful what you ask for because if you get it, it comes with a ludicrous price tag.
What becomes clear from revelations this week is that "Mitt Romney the CEO" is getting in the way of "Mitt Romney the Presidential Hopeful".
Summarily dismissing 47% of the country as people who are never going to vote for him and therefore he can't worry about them? That's a CEO talking. If 47% aren't going to follow you in the business world you can fire them and get rid of the problem. You don't have that option as President. If you believe in your ideas then you need to work on that 47% and try your best to explain why you are right.
I'm curious, though, why more isn't being made about Mr. Romney's comments about the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. Am I mistaken or did Mr. Romney just throw up his hands and say there's nothing he can really do about it so why bother? Again, that's a CEO talking. As CEO, you can pick and choose your path and which projects you want to take on as a company. If something is going to be too challenging, you have the option to simply pass on a project. You don't have that option as President...and the GOP has no right to point a finger at President Obama for what they call "leading from behind" when on the issue of Israelis and Palestinians Mr. Romney has chosen to give up and not lead at all.
Once upon a time, I wondered what it would be like to have a CEO elected President and to see what it would be like if this nation were run more like a business. If Mr. Romney is any indication, no, thank you, I'll pass.
On the Israeli - Palestinian conflict...IMO Mr Netenyahu outht to be careful of the friends he chooses....looks like Mythe is all smirk while twisting the dagger in the back.....
GNOP - can't stand facts...THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
C'mon Mythe - show us the 1040's...What ARE you hiding@?.....
Paul -- He speaks out of both sides of his mouth and grins while doing it. Scary.
This candidate and his backers' strategies were failed from the start. They believed they could buy the White House in a hostile takeover like Bain, and once that happened, they'd have a friendly CEO to manipulate the country to benefit Adelson and the Koch Brothers.
Turns out the American people don't want to sell out. Wrongme badly underestimated the moral compass of his own country. This is understandable, because not having any morals himself, he has nothing to compare it with.
Da Noid,
Obviously you never owned a company Slappy. LMFAO!!
Owned? Why, yes, I have been a share-holder in a publicly traded company, thank you.
DaNoid, great points. On Israel and Palestine, Romney said he'd kick the ball down the field.
Bobster, the United State is NOT a company; it cannot be run as if it were. Republicans see everything through the prism of private business.
Why is it so many private businesses demand tax payer "freebies" to entice them to expand or build a new facility in the area? Iowa's GOPer Gov Branstad just gave $110 million of Iowa tax-payer dollars to an Egyptian firm to build a fertilizer plant in southeast Iowa. Sure, it will create jobs but honestly, why is it necessary to "bribe" private business to do what they should do automatically. While Branstad cuts education and cuts taxes for the wealthy, he gives corporate welfare to an Egyptian business.
So...please tell us where is your logic in supporting MITT ROMNEY?
...sheesh...
It's been fun to see Willard fumble the football. What's even more funny is that Carters grandson spilled the beans. Romneys true colors came out in the videos and they aren't Red White and Blue. He's not American if you know what I mean.
I'm on the edge of my seat- What will Romney do today to help Obama get reelected?
Well he will be doing an interview with Univision - Meet the candidates. Can't see that going well at all.
Two weeks until the debates...I almost feel sorry for Mittenman. Almost.
Why does Gallup and Rasmussen show the race much tighter than the polls suggested by NBC? Why the big push to escalate the rhetoric on the NBC website? Even the President and the propaganda artists know this election is too close to call.
Good morning.
First Read publishes what David Axelrod tells them to.
Good morning to you!
Check out intrade: when people put their money where their mouth is they predict an Obama victory better than 2 to 1.
Statistics 101, "TexasT"...the problem with any opinion poll is that your sample is always 100% of people who cared enough to respond to the poll and people respond to different polling groups in different ways.
Are there people who respond to Rasmussen and Gallup who don't respond to NBC/WSJ? Are there people who repond to NBC/WSJ who don't respond to Rasmussen and Gallup? The answer to both is obviously "yes".
Well, I can tell you one way to muddy the results-
NBC published the result of the choice of likely voters. All well and good.
If you read through the poll, you see that, for all REGISTERED voters, the breakdown was democrats +5. This is not far off the mark- the electorate is projected to be democrats +4. Again, all well and good- however. . .
Given that they are trumpeting the poll of Likely voters, we should be given the breakdown of that group, rather than that of registered voters. That it is missing leads me to conclude that the likely voter pool was skewed more heavily democratic.
Turning in a poll like this in a class, with that information missing, would earn a failing grade.
texas -- rasmussen and pew research were tied for the best predictive poll at the end of the 2008 campaign. gallup was further down the list at 17th place; nbc/wsj came in at 13th.
could it be that the company that got it right in 2008 is doing it again?
Similar to your grade in Biology No Joe?
No Joe - maybe the pollsters were trying to follow the President's lead and were going for an "incomplete"......
You just have to laugh at conservatives whining about the polls. Now these same republicans love to quote Rasmussen (known to over sample republicans) or Gallup which rises and sinks depending on the day's news. No doubt if the NBC/WSJ poll had shown Romney with a lead--it would clearly be a poll done right in the eyes of conservative poll dancers!
Obama is done! don't believe any of these polls ...
Bet you ten-thousand bucks?
:)
Where would you get 10K if you are part of the 47% who are victims and are supported by the US Government?
benramz2 - you are not well informed my friend!
— 53.6 percent of households pay the federal income tax. Presumably Romney is okay with these folks.
— 28.3 percent of households pay no federal income tax, but they do pay the payroll tax. That means they don’t need Mitt Romney to convince them to “take personal responsibility and care for their lives.” They already have jobs. Their average payroll tax % is 16.9%, Romney paid 13% in 2010...
-Most of the households in this group don’t pay any federal income tax because they qualify for enough deductions that their income tax liability has shrunk to zero. The Tax Policy Center gives an example of “a couple with two children earning less than $26,400. They get an $11,600 standard deduction and four exemptions of $3,700, and that takes their liability to zero.” Indeed, it’s worth noting that many of these deductions and credits were part of the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts, which Romney wants to extend.
— 10.3 percent of households pay no federal income tax because they’re retired and elderly. Many retirees aren’t taxed on their Social Security benefits, which they earned by paying into the system over many years. If Mitt Romney secretly thinks that these households are all irresponsible freeloaders, he has a weird way of showing it, as he keeps insisting that he doesn’t want to cut Medicare or Social Security benefits for those over the age of 65.
— That leaves 6.9 percent of households which are non-elderly and have incomes less than $20,000 per year and aren’t paying the payroll tax. These poorer households pay neither income taxes nor payroll taxes. Perhaps Romney thinks that they should all pay more in federal taxes. It’s hard to say. But this is also a much smaller fraction of Americans.
We do quite well for ourselves, thank you. It turns out that a lot of that 47% are voting for Rmoney- poor people voting against their own interests.
robert,
Thanks for the breakdown of the statistics.
Having read all of the above comments, I conclude the ABO posters see the writing on the wall.
They are attacking the polls, MSM, etc. not one promoting what a great president Romney would be.
Robert,
So, you would agree with Governor Romney that his plan to reduce Federal Income Tax by 20% would have no effect on them, right?
So, you would agree with Governor Romney that his plan to reduce Federal Income Tax by 20% would have no effect on them, right?
So, you would agree with Governor Romney that his plan to reduce Federal Income Tax by 20% would have no effect on them, right?
Do you think that breaking it down makes the point any less valid? His plan to reduce Federal Income Tax by 20% will not sway their vote. They may already be voting for or against him, but his tax plan will have no affect.
Northstar,
People already know that Governor Romney has the experience and knowledge to assume the office of the President. They know that he has a track record of successfully turning around problem situations. He would make an excellent President and would certainly be a major improvement over the White House resident.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 - Because Competence Matters
No, they're voting FOR their interests, as they're tired of being one of the 23 million unemployed people!
JC-1439099
Actually Governor Romney's new Tax plan increases the tax base for the lower income families. People that don't make enough to get by are going to get hit with a higher tax % that they have to pay or they will see less deductions like child credits and earned income credit. The upper class tax base will Decrease 6.9% while the bottom 20% of the income spectrum will Increase 2.7%.
Sorry to use facts and numbers that have been published by Romney's web site but truth is truth, he obviously is not concerned about anyone but those making over $200,000/year, that is the cut off in his plan that defines the middle class, the middle class to Romney starts at $200,000.00/year.
Yeah JC
facts and numbers are a bad thing. Decrease the tax base by 20%, that decrease is NOT across the board, it does favor his country club buddies and donors. Yeah, I think it is important when the potential President of the United States says that 47% of the country considers themselves "Victims" and are "Entitled" to housing, and FOOD and health care and he is not concerned with them, yeah I think a breakdown proves what a fricken boob Romney is and who he cares about.
As far as Romney being ready to be president, why because he made millions buying and selling companies, sending jobs over seas and "Firing People? Or because he ran Minnesota into the ground as Governor? Which quality do you think makes him Ready? Maybe his disdain for America since he keeps his money hidden in the Caymans and in Swiss accounts, why wouldn't the potential president of the united states invest in America, if you believe in America invest in her, if not what the hell are you doing running for office Mitt?
Nothing but disingenuous demagoguery. You and others know full well that what he was talking about was trying to get people to vote for him and that statement indicates that he is not concerned with trying to get that group of people to try to vote for him.
It's obvious that you are just parroting the DNC talking points.... you can't even get the state that he governed correct - it was Massachusetts. If you actually took the time to look into the truth about Governor Romney you would find that he made millions by working with companies to make them succeed, not by making them fail. The fact that some of them didn't work out is a shame, but the vast majority of them did.
JC at #9.6
I am laughing my butt off,...are you for real?
Does this campaign that R$mney's running give you ANY sense of competency?
Sorry,...can't catch my breath. Laughing too hard! Thanks for that!
Obama/Biden 2012
R$mney/Ryan 1040
Yes. It does. Perhaps you missed the part where this is a tight race. If you think otherwise, check with the Obama campaign. I'm sure they'll tell you the same thing. And, he is heading down the back stretch with a significant advantage in available money.
It seems pretty naive to me to think that a Republican that was able to win the Governorship in Massachusetts (of all places) and a moderate that was able to win the Republican nomination against a host of conservative challengers, is anything other than extremely competent when it comes to competing in the political arena.
If you really want to laugh at something, you should consider laughing at the foreign policy debacle that is shaking the credibility of the President's foreign policy. Or, perhaps you could laugh at the abysmal jobs reports that continue to come out each week and each month, shaking even further any remote credibility that anyone could possibly have in the President's ability to deal with our economy.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 - Because, Yes, Competence Really Does Matter
JC-1439099
No, he said they believed that they are "Victims" and are "Entitled to Health care, Food, everything... I know he was referencing not trying to get their vote but he flat out said they believe they are "victims" and that he would never be able to convince them to take responsibility for themselves! Sounds like to me he has no use for that 47% he referenced!
Robert,
Again. He was working a room full of potential donors and trying to get contributions. What he did was engage in hyperbole and say that 47% of the people wouldn't vote for him and then cast them in a negative light using stereotypes so that the listeners would agree that those were, in fact, people that would not be swayed.
Why? Are you somehow confusing his off-the-cuff remarks to potential donors with a policy statement. And, for the record, since we all know that there is no group that actually fits the demographic he identified, just what 47% would that be?
"Just look where this argument is being made -- on FOX and Drudge."
So Democratic operative Chuck Todd, on the Democratic shill network NBC, snarks that Fox and Drudge are biased?
LOL...
It looks like many republicans are now going through buyer’s remorse for picking this foolish man, Willard Romney, the talking lying buffoons, as the Republican choice for President of the United States.
Also, Virginia is looking good for President Obama!
Obama - Biden 2012 Forward with the Truth!!!
Chuck Todd is a Republican and has said he was on air
Hello Kettle? This is me, the Pot.
Once again, Bob, you appear to have missed the point.
Rich Lowry, David Brooks, Bill Kristol, Daniel Foster, Linda McMahon, Joe Scarborough...conservatives, all of them...they all came out with criticisms of Mr. Romney's comments about the 47%. These are people who are supposed to be cheering you on to victory on FOX News and The Drudge Report and in The Wall Street Journal. Instead, Mr. Romney has left them collectively shaking their heads.
You would love to think so Job1, yet no one has slacked away from Romney in favor of Obama despite these supposed "gaffes" that NBC is clearly escalating over recent weeks. But keep telling yourself whatever you need to convince yourself that the President has it in the bag. NBC is the laughing stock of journalistic integrity.
Chuck Todd is a former Democratic Party staffer....in reality he still works for the same employer, as NBC is a media arm of the Democratic Party.
Dennis my fellow Buckeye, don't fool yourself. Even Laura Ingraham had to call Chuck Todd out for inserting his bias into his reporting. He had to defend his comments in lieu of being in the tank for the President.
By the way, I give you props for not slinking to name calling in any of your posts. I can respect that.
Bob in ol Virginnie............Fox news snarky? Ya I thinks so too........Well.... I do know that when you do search on Fox news dumber you see studies that prove people who watch Fox news are dumber after watching Fox news.....That's do search on Fox news dumber!
So Bob McDonnell who won't be VP, what is FOX News? Oh, that's right, the GOP is a wholly-owned subsidiary of FOX. Never mind. Amusing, GOPers come to MSNBC's web site because FOX shut theirs down --too much hate and violence--accuse MSNBC of leaning left yet they see nothing wrong with right-wing media. No wonder these folks vote republican, fair and balanced media choices is only acceptable if those media choices express the GOPers "we're right and the left is wrong" ideology.
Yeah, baby!!! And it's only going to get better from here until Nov. 6th. Mittens is so lost right now, you can actually see it in his face. I wonder if that little guy Eddie Munster is kicking himself right now for signing on to this disaster. Along with Mittens, Eddie can kiss his political career goodbye. And good riddance.
Oh, and by the way....all you rightwing crazies.....just because you don't like the message, don't shoot the messenger.
O & Joe 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Two weeks until the debates, this should be a royal trouncing of Mittenman.
Oh well.... just goes to show you almost half the country are complete morons...but when Romney wins....the LIB TARDS are gonna be pissed.......
Only in the feeble mind of a far right republican.
Yeah....you're right LIB TARD I saw it on FOX NEWS.....DUH!!!
bucsdad You wear your dunce hat well. It fits you perfect. Did they give you that dunce hat because you spelled liberal wrong?
Hey Smitty....no, that's Barry in the dunce cap....have you been smokin too much choom again?
bucsdad You need your eyes checked. That don't look like him. That "choom" has make you go blind. LMFAO!
Dear Maureen: Post 9.
Would you please post the electoral college path to victory for Mittens?
Thanks.
Propaganda for the faithful. He's dropping among independents like a lead balloon.
The ONLY poll that counts is the one in November. Get out and personally vote! Help others get out the vote!
The only way to go is vote for all Democrats across the board, and send these far right crazies a packing.
Yes lets vote democrats across the board and be bankrupt in a few years. Smart statement... You libtards are all these same. They should take away your right to vote.
I think these pollsters are smokin the same choom that Ray was sellin Barry....ROMNEY in a landslide!!!
bucsdad Rmoney in a landslide!!!
I think bucsdad is the one smokin the "choom".
Nope sorry...I can't get any. Ray (Barry's dealer) was knocked off by his gay lover...so that source dried up. I wonder where Barry is getting it now.....
bucsdad Why did you kill Ray (Barry's dealer)? No wonder why the source dried up. I thought you were the source now?
No really Smitty..do you know where Barry is getting his choom these days? Sounds like you hang out with him. All you LIB TARDS run in packs.....I seen it on FOX NEWS....DUH. Making fun of LIB TARDS is so cool.....
bucsdad What's a lib tard? What does that mean? The right can't spell. Its LIBERAL. Did they spell LIBERAL wrong on fox news to? You say you watch fox allot so thats where you get your information. So that explains it.
More bull@!$%# about Obama who cares about him or Mitt no matter who wins America still loses.Still waiting for those jobs that Obama created.Six Months 150 apps later still nothing.
NONE OF THE ABOVE IN 2012
It took you six months (over 180 days) to fill out 150 apps? That's extremely low.
apps? Get a resume like a grownup.
Angry....................Maybe its your attitude that's at fault.
With that atitude I think it will be another 150 apps before an interview and then he will get turned around at the door as his hate filled auora will shut the doors in his face.
Think positive and don't let this blog crap interfere with your daily life.
Romney's campaign is imploding....they have to spend each and every day walking back, denying, "explaining" what their backassward nominee said.
According to Norquist Mitt got his issues "mixed up" at the fund raiser.....wow...Mitt can't even keep things straight when he is talking to a friendly audience....how will he ever manage in a debate???
Even many Repubs are tired of defending the indefensible, tired of trying to put lipstick on a pig, tired of wasting their money on a losing campaign.
That's OK Repubs it will soon be over and you'll have 4 more years to rant and wail about President Obama.
Obama/Biden 2012
"Back in May, we noticed in our national and state polls that President Obama was at or near 48% in these surveys, which represented a sort of tipping point for an incumbent president. You're very close to that all-important 50%, but still not there. Well, our latest round of national and state polls conducted after the conventions now shows Obama at or near 50%"
Yes, since Obama didn't reach 50%, "we" just oversampled more Democrats, to please our boss David Axelrod.
Yes, and I'm sure FOX oversampled on Democrats too.
vagina bob Keep that wet dream of a Rmoney win alive.
When you are complaining about polling techniques, that means you are losing.
you know how you can tell an oboma voter from a romney voter.oboma voters sign the back of thier check and romney voters sign the front of the check.
Yea, and you know what smarty pants . . . there are more of us than there are of you . . .
So if you do the arithmetic . . . you lose.
Did you come up with that gem all on your own? I doubt it.
You know how you can tell a Romney voter from the South? The check bounces.
So you actually believe these corrupt polls.. Go check some real polls. Check polls with real people not just liberals... So how in the hell are there more of you... Yes there are more idiots in the world you are correct.
MeLuvULongTime1:
See post 19.3.
Please and thank you.
Congratulations on regurgitating a tidbit from hate radio. Believing Savage is a mental disease
Wow there are so many @!$%#s where do i start. First off I don't listen to talk radio or watch liberal corrupt news. So your wrong. Second I've read many different books from different sources. So if you don't know don't act like you know. Third this is what is wrong with the liberal they tell so many lies they believe what there saying. They also will never admit when there wrong. Why whhaaa waaaa I'm a liberal I know better then you... Right check the history books see how your @!$%# theories worked out previously. You dumb arrogant bastards...
Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel, "Pick up your shovels, mount your #$%$ and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land."
Nearly 75 years ago, (when Welfare was introduced) Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovels, sit on your #$%$, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised Land."
Today, Congress has stolen your shovel, taxed your #$%$, raised the price of Camels and mortgaged the Promised Land!
I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, the economy, the wars, lost JObs, Savings, Social Security, Retirement funds, etc. I called a Suicide Hotline. I had to press 1 for English. I was connected to a call center in Pakistan. I told them I was suicidal. They got excited and asked if I have a Back Pack!!.
Folks, we're screwed.... OMG====Obama Must GO!!!
*plays world's tiniest violin*
This for all the poor, mistreated rich people who pay income taxes. Just completely ignore the fact that the top 10% of Americans control over 70% of the wealth in this country . . . leaving the bottom 90% to survive on less than 30% of the income.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-chart-graph
No, the victims are the rich folks who have to pay TAXES on their horded "income" . . . at least the parts they are not hiding in overseas tax havens . . . poor babies.
I mean, all these freeloaders who go to work for these poor mistreated souls for wages that don't even keep up with the cost of living are just leaches who can't seem to take "responsibility" for themselves . . . I mean, clearly these CEOs are earning their huge salaries by working hard at figuring out where overseas to ship these already low paying jobs so they can make even MORE money . . . the least these low paid loser workers could do is say thank you.
Damn.
I can't believe 50% of Real American's, believe this loser is good for the country. I'ts just BS to make sure "We The People!" vote. "Obama, There's NO HOPE with this DOPE!"
ok, say you believe what you just said about the President of the United States, and say I agree with you, what is the alternative to Obama? It's not Romney, the GOP is not trying to get Romney elected they only want their party elected, they want their ideology to become the law of the land and that my friend is not an alternative the Average American wants.
History has shown when a party decides who is worthy, what religion and beliefs are the right one's, the right race, only the healthy are accepted and only the true followers of the party are allowed to live under the umbrella of the Governments protection then you are permitted into the Party, the rest became members of work camps. Sound familiar at all?
Gee robert, sounds exactly like the democratic party. They've been dictating exactly what's to be with no regard to the wishes of the people. All republicans will report to the work camps because someone has to support the Givemecrats and thier leaders.
Everybody watch this one sentence video. Then take a poll.
so I watched the video and listened to the sentence and nothing was mentioned about the people that "Obamacare" has already helped.
No more pre-existing conditions, my mother-in-law had a heart problem and when she retired with her husband at age 60 she lost health insurance. She was unable to get any coverage because of her pre-existing condition, her only hope was waiting for medicare. She had to go to the hospital one time and it cost them $125,000.00. She could not even afford the medication, she died at 64 years old.
As for me personally, I work always have always will but starting in Sept 2011 I had a hip surgery, it went bad and by the time all was said and done I had gotten an infection in my bone and in the course of 9 months I had to have 14 total surgeries. No fault of my own, nothing I could have done but insurance was billed a total of more than $1.3 Million which was way past my lifetime medical but because of Obamacare I still have insurance. My point here is this could happen to anyone, even you and what would you do? Run out of lifetime coverage with a pre-existing condition, you may as well just give up, thank God Obamacare helped me to get better.
The "bad" part of Obamacare is what trying to make sure everyone has insurance? Isn't that maybe a way to decrease the need for medicaid and government funded health care? Lower taxes for you maybe, less people on Gov aid? Is it the fact that I can decide to not pay health care insurance premiums for my employees, I pay a $2000.00 per employee fine to the Government but the savings for me is about $7000.00 per employee per year even after the $2000.00 fine.
I get the Every man, woman, and child for themselves attitude the GOP has, hell the Koch brothers will just invest in insurance companies and get even richer! Otherwise, it is time that insurance companies be held accountable and price be regulated in the US, Medical issues are the number one cause of personal Bankruptcy files in the US.
or this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tsu1EOnTXY
Right on the money!!!!!!! Obamacare helps no one. I repeat no one. Robert 1960 I am not sure what you are smoking but lets start by telling the truth. How can you regulate the free market. You want to do whats right. Scrape Obamacare and start making the insurance companies compete for our business. That is what works!
Hang in there Robert!..........You certainly contribute and express yourself on the blogs with good knowledge due to your personal experience. Healthy people have no idea what happens to a persons life when something goes wrong health wise. Romney and Ryan plan to privatize everything only helps the rich to get richer and everyone else be damned. President Obama and Democratic party proves everyday, we CAN do better than that!
Vote President Obama/Biden and Democratic party 2012
For real facts and info on ACA healthcare....go to the official site and skip the drivel blather from rt wings who lost on the issue and remain ill informed or just being a spinmeister.
www.healthcare.org
Insurance companies have been regulated by the states for years and have to justify their increases. They also have dictated to the insurance companies what must be included, which is part of the reason the prices have gone up over the years.
Yo Mammy & JC
ya really should get educated on the insurance industry. find out who controls cost and regulates how much we pay versus how much is allowed. JC, what exactly are the regulations on insurance companies by states? I really would like to hear specifics not gibberish. Premiums? Maximum Lifetime Coverage? Pre-Existing? What they pay providers?
And the idea of Free market driving the price of insurance down, that is pretty damn funny. The old economic theory of Supply and demand sound familiar? If this were the case the more we use gasoline the lower the price would be right? Free Market Insurance is Wall Street and the GOP forcing everyone out into Free Market Shopping, especially as a senior in the future would be like throwing chum to sharks. There is no regulation on health care insurance, auto and home yeah but not health care...
God forbid anything ever happens to any of you but if it did and it were catastrophic I hope no lifetime maximum causes you to loose a leg or pass of a heart attack because you can't get insured because of a pre-existing condition.
Don't you understand, getting everyone insured under Obamacare would drive the cost of medicaid and government assisted health care down.
Obamacare = $1.5 Trillion over 10 years
Medicaid = by 2013 will cost an estimated $500,000 Billion/year, by 2017 estimated at $767,000 Billion
do the math
Does anyone else feel like these polls might be manipulated by powers that be from up on high to skew towards the King?
YES!! The voices in my head told me that the vast liberal conspiracy is trying to STEAL the election because they HATE FREEDOM!
I'm going down in the basement now to count my toilet paper and ammo.
HEY BARRY.....don't let the door hit cha where the good lord split YA!! All of your supporters will have to go back to their true calling "hoarding cats and whining incessantly.....YEEEHAAA." I can hardly wait.....
Exit Stage Right
From the article above:
It's obvious to most Americans that President Obama is fast becoming one of the best presidents this great nation has ever had.
Salud
Buchsdad, better lay off the crack pipe so early in the day, dude.
Are you people out of your mind. Obama is the worst President since Jimmy Carter... Your all on some serious Big Pharma Obama's friends drugs...
meluvulongtime1 Speaking of drugs I would like 10 dollars worth of yours.
Well if it was in the WSJ it must be true...NOT...your King is going down...get used to it.....NBC bias BS never ends.....and it's good to see the King is once again the media whore that he is...by pimping the office on Letterman.....
This president spends more time being coooool than being a president....from telephone interviews with "a pimp with a limp", interviews with David Letterman, JayZ, Beyonce, playing golf and fundraising.
I'm sick of a president who wants to get down and hang with the cool people. I want a president that does his job.
This man is not the everyday guy like he would like to portray...HE IS ONE OF THE POWERFUL MEN IN THE WORLD and needs to set his priorites as such.
sharri.....yeah....the prez...is....cool...isn't he........I see........You noticed huh? You also noticed he is one of the most powerful men in the world.........the real fixation comes out in you........cool! You go Sharri...!
I want a serious president!!
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012
sharriannie-
You want a seroius president - ROMNEY/ RYAN 2012???? now, who's not being serious!!!
The Obama Administration has failed!! Obama has no foreign polocy nor hope!!!
Obama: On his own grade card for his job "Incomplete", My grade for him is more correct an "F".
Valerie Jarret: " Unemployment is good for the economy"
Nancy Pelosi: " First we need to pass the bill so we can see whats in it" Obamanocare
Sorry - Socialists, progressives/liberals
Romney/Ryan
The GOP list of accomplishments.....
44 Bills..........on Abortion
99 Bills..........on Religion
71 Bills .........on Family Relationships
36 Bills..........on Marriage
67 Bills..........on Firearms/Gun Control
522 Bills........on Lowering Corporate Tax
445 Bills........on Government Investigations
The GOP failed , where are those Jobs they promised oops!!
Seems you must be confused. The vast majority of the jobs that have been created have been in GOP led states following the 2010 elections......
PO'ed....no the GOP can't pass anything because of your garbage Democratic party in the Senate and White house.
If you scum block every bill that the GOP passes on the budget and the economy, then you can't blame them for anything.
Unlike 2009-2010, when the Dems passed their "stimulus" which failed to get us on a steady, strong upward path towards recovery, Dodd-Frank and Obamacare.
The Dems policies are still in place on the economy, the Repubs' haven't been tried yet, cuz the Dems have blocked it all.
Yeah JC, just like here in Texas. There are jobs to be had and if you want to support a family come and get two or three of the jobs. Texas average salary is just under $13.00/hour, that is a total of all income levels in the second largest state in the country.
The 47% Map, did you see all of the Southern "RED" states from Texas to Florida, all typical GOP Red States. They contain about 67% of the 47% Mitt Romney was speaking of. Red States produce typically low wage jobs for a lot of people. The big industries here, retail and restaurant workers. The majority of job openings here are retail and restaurants, not high paying oil field or gas field workers, hell the highest paid of the Labor force is the Wind Farm workers which Texas receives millions of federal dollars for Green Energy initiatives.
ChestyPuller
the GOP house has not passed one CLEAN BILL since 2010, every single bill they passed was a GOP Poison Pill Loaded with GOP ideology and demands, nothing like a clean bill proposing jobs and say infrastructure not unless it included jobs and Cut Social Security, Cut Medicare, Cut Medicaid, yeah demands like that. Like me passing a law saying you have to give me your paycheck every other week and I will create a new job, would you vote for that? You know the concept, how did the GOP and the Right like Obamacare being passed? That was a Democrat Poison Pill Bill, it did not taste very good to too many on the right, see what I mean?
The reason the wages in Texas are so low (I will give an example) is because of the Failed immigration policies of our country. Houston being a sanctuary city doesn't help either. The average plumber in Texas is making approx. 17.00 hourly due to illegals in the construction trades. Not to mention the quality stinks. You hire illegals and your overhead goes down. Why pay an American when you can hire Manuel Labor?