The first debate is going to be more important for Governor Romney than it was for President Kennedy or P{resident Reagan. Has there ever been more pressure on a candidate to do well since the advent of the televised debate?

I guess this is good news for somebody, 38% of the people think its better than 4 years ago and 41% don't and 21% say its about the same and if I remember correctly it wasn't that good 4 years ago, yes indeed this is good news for somebody.

Jack in Jax - First off this isn't a test??? This is what is great about numbers - see (41%) less than half the country thinks we are worse off than 4 years ago. (52%) or more than half say we are either the same or better off than 4 years ago. This pretty much falls along party lines. Republicans are trying to scare people into think that the country is worse off when it is actually doing better. (Stock Market and 401K's Increasing, 30 consecutive months of continued Job Growth.)

Notice I said country on individuals. For Individuals to be doing better we need the Congress to get off their butts and get back to work passing the Jobs bill that President Obama sent to them over a year ago and make the necessary budget decisions including raising taxes on the top 1% and reducing spending at the same time. Lets get back to work Congress -

The SS Mitt Romney has been taking on water ever since it left port. Now it's listing heavily to one side and the crew is unhooking the lifeboats. I would call that a dire emergency. In fact, for him, it's MAYDAY!!!

Well mr dork...

Why not give us those links that proves what you are trying to say in 1.39? I have no problem in tax reform across the board and for all income groups, why do you?

Yep, President Obama is still ahead and if the election were today I think he would win. But it isn't and the trend of the polls, even the RCP pols, show that the convention bounce is fading and the race is back inside the margin of error.

With regards to the NEW NBC/WSJ POLLS, you only need to check back in August when they declared that a poll on blacks voting for Gov Romney was 0%. They were flooded with tweets from black conservatives who proved them 100% wrong.

The moral of this story is, the new poll was created for the sole purpose of what their implying in this article that Gov Romney is loosing ground when in fact it is only "rubbish."

Does Romney know what FICA is? Most of those so called Lazy seniors and disabled people. Paid into a insurance policy (TAX) so it is not an entitlement.

See since Romney made his money VIA dividends he really bypassed working for his money. Daddy gave it to him. Remember the silver spoon GAFF. Now he calls the middle class. 47% both Republicans and Democrats Freeloaders and lazy wanting to pay no taxes and entitled?

And some still support this Guy. He is not even close to being a true Republican. He showed on Video what he thinks of 47% of Americans who would vote for Obama. And also shows he thinks that nearly HALF of our Citizens are lazy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Insurance_Contributions_Act_tax

And he stated that all he needs to do is convince the ten percent that are thinking people. So does that mean the other 33%. Of our citizens DON'T THINK? Or just that 33% cant think? Because we are beneath him?

Any way we slice it He just dissed a huge chunk of our Nations citizens as either stupid. Lazy or that they feel entitled. Ron Paul would have been a better choice for the republican party. This guy makes G.W. look like a rocket Scientist. You cant think so lowly of 90% of America and think that 10% of thinking people will vote for you.

Let me see if I get this straight:

Less than 4 out of 10 Americans believe that their respective living situation is better today than it was 4-years ago, and somehow that is an endorsement of the job President Obama has done to date?

I guess I need to get out my college economics and algebra textbooks on this one - because I must have missed something when I studied back in the late 70's!!!

Most of the "reliable" polls that I see have Obama and Romney within 3-points with a margin of error of +3-points, which as I understand it means that they are basically in a "dead-heat". How can an incumbent POTUS feel comfortable being in a "dead-heat" at this point in the campaign? If his policies were working, wouldn't / shouldn't his numbers be +10-14-points or better???

Want "Hope" & "Change"? Change your believe in the two-party cesspool system and Hope that honest Americans begins to consider "REAL" Independent LEADERSHIP soon!!!

That improvement and the Romney "foot in mouth" comment that he doesn't care about half the American population says Obama Nov. 7th. My mom is in her 90's and in a nursing home. She pays no taxes and after working 50years at her job I guess she can be swept under the rug by the B-word Romney.

Probusiness, you are a disgrace with your comments. Are you in the top 1%? 5%? You sound so out of tough with the people of this county and their wants and needs. Would you support a war with Iran? How about Libya? Send troops into Syria? If you answer yes all your comments about the deficit go right out the window.

I agree we need a third party that could actually stand up to the other two. And make some sweeping changes. But for at least this election campaign we have to choose from the lesser of two evils. I think it is Obama. Mitt R. Was a very bad choice for the Republican party. Ron Paul would have been better. And might have got my vote over Obama. But not Mitt.

WOW! Here we have what Mittens and the GOP think of working-class America. This man is talking about working class American, single WORKING Moms with children who after credits and deductions pay no federal taxes -- never mind every other form of tax they pay. I think it's safe to say the GOP have totally lost their minds and Romney is perhaps of less intelligence than any presidential candidate in recent memory. He is wrong here on so many levels that it defies credibility. And don't forget, middle-class is 200K to 250K per year in his world. The GOP continue to argue wiht an empty chair absent facts or logic...

clwyd-2621393

Then die Caesar!!!!!!!!!

I see we have a cry baby. Advocating death on another poster. See my point. Raw emotion, no substance.

ProBusiness - are you still arguing how our current economic crisis, having improved under Obama, is NOT a report card on SS Economics? It's all about growth but not when the growth is distributed the way it has been... simple terms for you.

:)

Am I better off now than 4 years ago? Absolutely!

Four years ago the economy was in free fall and we could not see the ground. We have now had 30 months of growth in spite of the extortion and filibusters of the party over country republicons.

Four years ago the value of both my house and 401 had dropped by over half. Both have recovered.

OBL is dead. Mission Accomplished.

Why did this happen? Because there is a Democrat in the White House.

It definitely helps Obama that Romney is such an obvious representative of "of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich ONLY" fellow.

Polls are spiking for Obama. This time 4 years ago Obama was down. Come debate time this thing is OVER. No empty chair this time. LOL

If Romney currently lives off capitol gains income, then I bet he is better off today than he was 4 years ago. That's probably one of the reasons why he won't show his taxes. He doesn't want us to see how his portfollio has doubled since Obama took office. Also, he doesn't want the mormon church to know how he has been stiffing them of their full 10% of his income.

So Mitt Romney admits half of the country are victims that he himself created. Romney knows about victimhood after taking jobs away from those now victims. We are all interconnected and those Romney bankrupt businesses made a lot of victims.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/09/06/charlie-crist-says-he-didnt-leave-gop-it-left-me/
“I didn’t leave the Republican Party – it left me,” Mr.
Crist told the Democratic faithful gathered at the convention Thursday night.
“Then again, as my friend Jeb Bush recently noted that, Reagan himself would
have been too moderate and too reasonable for today’s GOP.”

In his remarks, the party-switching former Florida
governor lauded Mr. Obama for his swift response to the financial crisis and
accused the Republican nominee Mitt Romney and his running mate
Rep. Paul Ryan of practicing an unyielding brand of partisan
politics that would make it impossible to revive the economy.

“They’re beholden to ‘my way or the highway’ bullies,
indebted to billionaires who bankroll ads and allergic to the idea of
compromise,” Mr. Crist said. “Ronald Reagan would not have stood for that.
Barack Obama does not stand for that. You and I won’t stand for
that.”

With Bailout number 3 less than 1 week old, were talking about Mittens comments of 3 months ago,

If you work you pay tax's , if you are retired you payed tax's, if your a vet you served, if your disabled you pay through services rendered.

WORK the new 4 Letter WORD !, FREELOADING , America is running scared, WORK !

First comment of the thread, well said Bev.

Obama/Biden 2012

Rasmussen Daily Swing State Poll: Romney still leading Obama by 2 points in the Swing States

The 11 states included in this poll are: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.

38% are so uninformed as to say we are better off?

The question asked was "Are you better off" so you are telling me you know the lives of those 38%, better than they do?

I can definitely say I am better off, I was under employed working two jobs, my husband's company had just shut down. We were on the verge of losing everything. So yeah, working 1 job for twice the amount as both of the other jobs put together, and my husband has had steady employment for 2 years, definitely puts in the the better off category.

optimism is up. i cant believe how many people think he will win! of course their only on this page. starting to think most of the people on here are on obamas staff or sitting at home collecting cause they dont wanna work!

I just like to try and drag her into a debate, then throw facts at her.

snowballs chance in hell i say

Its fun to watch her try to pull out witty insults like she is writing for TMZ.

NBC/TMZ whats the difference. both Shill for Barry Kardashian.

Read into it what you want. Its amazing how some of you twist his words around. He is not saying he doesn't care. He was saying he can't convince them. That is much different than saying I don't care. We can go tit for tat on some of the other stuff that Obama has said and done to us already.

We are over 16 trillion in debt, 23 million people plus unemployed, more people than ever are on some sort of govt. program because of this economy. Yes we need help and that help won't be sustained by the government giving to us. I might recommend to you to study what the Mormon belief is. Then you will understand his comment.

For we believe in self government. That is we govern our selves and take personal responsibility for our selves our actions. We are responsible for our own living through the gifts endowed to us by our creator. We don't rely on man to take care of us other than we believe in the words of the Lord to take care of poor, the orphan, and the strangers within your gates. That means to take care of those around you. How is that suppose to be.

Well by the giving beyond your own tithes to the Church to help in human service to all mankind. We do not run down another belief nor come against those who believe different. It is not in the Spirit of the Lord to argue. That is why you don't see a man who comes out and is loud and proud. He walks with a humble spirit.

Yet many of you rail against a man you know nothing about. You only know what the Liberal, Middle, Conservative Press tells you to think and believe. You might want to walk in a Mormon's shoes or get to know one before you pass judgement on one. Coming from one who persecuted the Mormon believers in my own state for many years. Till one day the LORD used a young Mormon man to save my life and get me back on track to a better life and cleaner life without all the stuff from the old.

Yes I am a Jew by blood, I followed for many years the supposed Christian ways and saw stuff that dismayed me. Then I met people who really do care and not just because they have to or should. Because they want to and love to help people out.

I know in my heart that Romney will make this Nation a better place for all. He led the most liberal State in the Union and worked with all people in his state. Why? Because be believes he is a servant to all the citizens of this nation. Yes he can't convince all to take there role to self govern their lives. Yet he can be an example of how to become.

What bugs you about them , because he has never used a drug, drank, or cheated on his wife of 40 years, or that he has stayed the course through all trials of life and blessings. Believe what you want. He's right many of you he won't convince to vote for him. Well I know he will turn this nation around and it will be that Shining Light on the Hill for all to see from afar away.

I have hope.

So far there are 62 replies to statement 1. I am curious how many of them were written or paid for by the 1%.

My hope? My hope is that every working man/woman who votes for a 1%er does not get his/her face defecated on while he/she is kissing his rectum.

Just met another Republican yesterday and he had what I call an interesting view of this whole thing, he said he did not like Obama and it had nothing to do with Race, and said what he See's is all Black countries are corrupted, and the people are in poverty, and he thinks Obama will lead America down that path, but he also said He would never vote for ROMNEY and I asked why, he said he did not trust him and he lies too much and he'll flip either way he thinks he'll get the votes, I have to admit he was a nice guy for a Republican, and he had good points. Oh, another interesting thing he also said Romney would lose, gee, I guess they the Republicans are not all brain washed some know the difference.

Grover Dork,

Again you dodge one simple question. What is Obamas plan?

As far as Romneys tax returns............who gives a sh-t? Pretty sad that is all you have. Not sure how that means the right is imploding. I hope he does turn them over, what will Barrys campaign do then? Call him a racist? Where are Barrys transcripts? Why did he have them sealed and pay millions of dollars (thats right Obama is a millionaire as well) doing it? I dont think Mitt paid millions to keep his tax records sealed.

Twenty Seven "Forward" and "Betting on America" reasons Progressives will vote to re-elect Mr. Obama (domestic issues only):

1. Had the most transparent administration in history (most notable: ObamaCare, "Fast and Furious", and White House visitor logs).

2. Ensured all legislation was put on CSPAN for 5 days prior to signing.

3. Cut the National deficit in half his 1st year in office.

4. Signed legislation to implement the Simpson-Bowles (Obama's deficit commission) Deficit Plan which will cut $ 4,000,000,000,000 from the deficit over the next ten years.

5. Ensured the "National Deficit Super Committee" made the right choice by not compromising which resulted in NO ACTION but required budget cuts to all government agencies across the board with emphasis on gutting the DOD.

6. Vetoed ALL legislation which had pork barrel spending embedded.

7. Consolidated, or combined, duplicate Federal Agencies and eliminated Fraud, Waste, and Abuse in ALL government agencies (except for White House staff, GSA, IRS, DHS, DOE, HUD, Agriculture, Commerce, Interior, and Labor).

8. Did not receive any campaign funds from any special interest groups.

9. Did not appointment any Ex-Wall Street "Fat Cats" to his administration.

10. Signed comprehensive Immigration Reform legislation during his 2nd year in office.

11. Signed comprehensive Health Care "Tax" Reform legislation during his 2nd year in office.

12. Stimulated the economy with his Stimulus Package by keeping unemployment at or below 8% and subsequently reduced to 5% during his 3rd year in office.

13. Put America on the path for "Go Green" energy by providing taxpayer funding to Solyndra, Abound, Beacon, First Solar, Cash for Clunkers, Cash for Appliances, Weatherization Program, Electric Vehicle Finnish Company (Fisker), Ener1 Battery Company, and Geothermal Plant in Nevada.

14. Put America on the path for energy independence by giving billions of taxpayer dollars to Venezuela for off shore drilling, curtailing natural resource(s) extraction, and stalling the Keystone pipeline.

15. Stopped Climate Change dead in it's tracks by eliminating CO2 emissions through DOE Cap and Trade regulations, terminating most coal mine operations, and dismantling coal fired electrical plants.

16. Stopped the housing foreclosure crisis by providing homeowners with HAMP #1, #2, and #3 and directing Fannie and Freddie to "sell" their toxic assets to banks.

17. Prosecuted Wall Street "Fat Cats" for illegal financial manipulations (except for MF Global and Goldman Sachs).

18. Completely secured both borders from Illegal Alien (Immigrants) and potential terrorists entry.

19. Dramatically reduced the number of families on food stamps and doubled families' wealth.

20. Did not allow transferring captured terrorist suspects to GITMO (Hezbollah commander, Ali Mussa Daqduq) and closed GITMO.

21. Demanded no classified information be released by anyone in the administration which would put our military members or foreign intelligence contacts in jeopardy.

22. Signed comprehensive tax reform which will affect ALL American citizens....including Grandma, the poor, and the elderly.

23. Signed an Executive Order to ensure ONLY African Americans are placed "on the road to education
equality".

24. Signed an Executive Order to allow about 1,400,000 Illegal Alien (Immigrant) Illegal children to stay in the U.S. calling it a "work visa" and allowing them to obtain a SSN for use to get Social Benefits without going through Congressional procedures.

25. Protected the American dollar Standard and Poor's rating.

26. Continued throughout his administration to promote unity of the American people.

27. Set Presidential records for the number of rounds of golf, for the number of campaign tours/fund raisers, for the number of White House parties, and for the number of "First Lady dates" in other cities.

Romney-Ryan 2012 to take back America from radicals.

IS ROMNEY OUT OF TOUCH WITH 47% OF THE VOTERS??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU9V6eOFO38&feature=youtu.be

Bob-180....

Did any of those other presidents have to deal with 2.1 million jobs disappearing into a communist country since 2001? To be fair, that's probably a major contributor to the recession/depression that started under GWB and continues under Obama. Thank you Mitt and all you other non-patriotic businessmen who value their bonus's over country then withhold taxes owed by hiding profits outside of the US.

Since when has moving jobs to China and withholding taxes become acceptable behaviour? Since when has it become acceptable to be rewarded for moving those jobs to China? Why did the repubs stop legislation to cease rewarding the flow of jobs to oversea sites and begin the process of rewarding the return of jobs to the US.

Why do repubs hate the US?

While Mittwitt avoid taxes by putting money in overseas accounts is call the tax code.

While people that don't make enough to pay taxes is called tax cheats and lazy.

Rob from the poor to give to the rich. WOW.

Seeing President do NOOOOOOOOTHING as the Arab Spring HE BUILT caused his Ambassador to be killed, his naked body dragged dead through the streets of Libya, and then sodomized... and then still skip his security briefing AGAIN the next day and then not even know if Egypt was an Ally of the US or not... I have a feeling these poll numbers will change drastically very soon. LOL

Frankly, I still wonder why the media did not question Obama's total lack of a REAL response while he was off "campaigning" in Las Vegas instead of making the necessary calls to properly defend our embassies? I wonder if Obama was "campaigning" out in Vegas in a vertical or horizontal position? I guess what happens in Vegas stay in Vegas, huh?

Grover Dork,

Still dodging the first question, What is Obamas plan?

Great, have Romney release those tax returns and at the same time have Obama release his. THe reason his birth certificate was an issue is because he is the only president where there was a question on where he was born because of his own writings. And if I recall correctly it was Hillary that started that. How many years did Obama release on his returns? And with Barry being the president he cant find a way to get his hands on those returns? Another thing, why does it concern you that Romney earned his money? It doesnt bother you that Barry is a millionaire? What about Reid or Pelosi? Thats right.....they are dems so its okay that they are loaded.

You know I would have alot more respect for you dems if you just said that you are voting for Obama because you are a life long democrat and you vote straight party. Instead we get a bunch of attacks against the other side so you can deflect from Obamas failures. Its a nice tactic but everyone caught on after the first few months.

The "fisting redhead" ............. that's a worse visual than thinking about another 4 yrs of the nitwit we have in the WH now.

See Grover your exactly what is wrong with America. You just made a stereotypical judgement of me that I am some sort of White Trash Hee Haw watching person. For one I hated HEE HAWW and vowed never to watch it or allow it in my home. Not to say that some who watch it did not find entertainment value. I for one did not. There was your first mistake. Then you showed your arse by stereotyping me. Good luck to you Progressives who seem to live on ONE WAY STREET, unless you believe like them then you must be some sort of WHITEY TRAILER TRASH. Your what's wrong with America you and your President. Who has brought so much division to this nation. Now with the aide of this page and MSNBC and all the other Media outlets are once again dividing us. We need a leader who will Unite USA.

FYI I am from a multi-ethic background and not Caucasian. Shows how messed up you are.

NBC News??? There is a contradiction of terms. NBC reporting isn't news..it's a giant democrat advertisement.

Where is the real news NBC? Where is the story about jihadists across the world attacking our embassies? Where is the news about the DOJ breaking the law yet again? Where is the news about the incompentence of Obama's appointment to the UN and her lack of knowledge of world affairs?

Where is the story about the current adminstrations complete failure in Afghanistan? Where is the story about Iran and it's threats to Israel?

This is news? That 38% of the people YOU called agreed with your political viewpoint? Where is the sampling? Where are the questions asked?

NBC you fail...again.

Again Grover you prove my point. You dodge a question because you dont know what his plan is so you try to direct me to Barrys website? I dont need to read what Obama puts out there as a plan because he has proven time and time again that he says one thing and does another. You are a typical liberal that tries to insult people that dont agree with your wacked out leftist views. It just proves that you are not as bright as you think you are and that you are out of touch with reality.

Grover your here commenting on Romney's comments about the 47% and you make a comment like this. What a hypocrite you are.

"Its ALL spelled out for you there..in simple english...even poorly educated republicans can understand it."

It's comments like this that show who you really are and how narrow minded you truly are.

It is a sad day when anyone goes to the polls to vote for the lesser of two evils...

My vote currently goes to the one that has not failed at the position, as of yet. I just pray that in 4 years we will have some acceptable presidential candidates.

I think the real question here is whether there is real optimism in a second Obama term, or if it is just a lack of trust in Romney and the GOP's idea that we are all gonna see that trickle down sooner or later.

You know what also truly amazes me is why is the Obama Campaign spending so much Campaign dollars on the Air here in Oregon a Liberal state by all means. Yet He's spending alot of money here to keep his message alive with the Liberals here. Why? I see or hear 5 times the ads from Obama's campaign then Romney's. Very interesting.

@13en

Dont get your hopes up. I see an Obama win in November, so if history proves true it will be the VP versus whatever Neanderthal the tea baggers force the GOP to put up.

We are screwed unless we get a moderate third party to form.

BTW NBC the poll jump that you saw come up saying that they feel we are better off. Well if you look at it in real numbers. These are those Democrats who where becoming dismayed with the Party until the Convention and they just got all fired up again. So yes of course they will feel better. I will say the Dems are good at making you feel warm and fuzzy. Then like going out on the town for the night you will wake up in the morning with a hangover. Time for Aspirin. They don't taste good but they get rid of the headache!

Time For an Aspirin

Romney/Ryan 2012

Well then that makes perfect sense. These guys are spending money on there own Party. That is why we need to get away from the Electoral College. They are just battling for the swing states and then keeping there mantra's alive in the states they already own. Makes no sense to me why these guys don't get out and hit every state in the Union. You see in my state my vote won't count in the Electoral College. All will go to Obama. Yea its probably time for a third party of common sense.

Grover,

I know what Obama says his plans are but he hasnt followed up on anything from 2008 so why would I believe what he says now? You are a party hack, period. When he became president in 2009 I was not happy but I said he is my president now, lets see what he can do. I was behind him because I love this country. After almost 4 years he has showed me that he is the worst president we have ever had in this country. So me reading more of his typical politician bs isnt going to change my mind. Actions speak louder than words.

Living in California, it's almost like there is no election going on. We have seen nothing in the way of ads. Both candidates have given up us because we are basically a one party state.

@TheSwordNPen79

It is not that hard to understand. 4 years ago Obama split the Democratic party. He was not the favorite, Hilary was. Like Mitt today with the Republican party he is their man but not what they really want. I dont feel like Obama got good support from the DNC and was not as effective a president as he could have been. Many Dems feel the same way for different reasons and may feel a bit apathetic about this election or feel that the GOP doesnt have a chance so why vote. With as close as some recent elections have been not keeping the base involved and actively voting could cost someone reelection.

How can anyone be optimistic about Obama and his administration? After all, in his acceptance speach he readily admitted that he is incapable or perfforming the job he was elected to do. He gave the lame excuse of all losers just before they are fired, "you shouldn't have expected me to do the job because no one could do it.." Well, there are lots of people that can do the job, including Mitt Romney at the forefront. Obama's slogan, "Forward" is a joke, like he is capable of moving forward carrying the mess he has created.

The "Secret Weapon" for Obama/Biden 2012 is Nitt-Witt RoMONEY. Every single time he opens his mouth, out spews his ignorance.

Here's Nit-Wit Mitt's take on Gun Control in his words: "We need a president who will enforce "current" laws not create new one's that only serve to burden lawful gun owners. President Obama has not...I will." (What a bonehead statement.)

Then Mitt said: "We need a president who will stand up for the rights of hunters and sportsmen and those who seek to protect their homes and their families. President Obama has not." WTF?! (Two bonehead statements)!

And finally, RoMONEY said: "If we're gonna safeguard our 2nd Amendment it's time to elect a president who will defend the rights President Obama ignores or minimizes." Really Mitt? What? Now you think the President is secretly planning to make all firearms illegal and have them confiscated or something?

How about RoMONEY and Lyin' Ryan (AKA The Bobble-Heads) tell the family members who lost loved ones in the theater in Colorado, and everywhere else these past years? Heaven forbid tighter gun control measures be put in place and "burden" the lawful gun owners.

No one is trying to take away anyone's guns--just tighter gun control measures, which clearly, are needed.

RoMONEY is a "Corporate Tool." I think Clint Eastwood gave ol' Nit-Witt some acting pointers, because he sure has his lies...er..."lines" down pat.

Paradoxical Quote of The Day: "Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires

every citizen to prove they are insured...

but not everyone must prove they are a citizen."

Now add this, "Many of those who refuse, or are unable,

to prove they are citizens will receive free insurance

paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance

because they are citizens."

Think about it when you vote in November !

BOZO HAS TO GO!!

OBAMA can afford to be optimistic. He can drop his last name and get elected anywhere in the Muslim world as BARACH HUSSEIN.

Were the disenfranchised including newly homeless and students living back home in their mother's basement, the unemployed, the partially employed, every American earning a living who gets $4K a year less money than in 2009 part of the poll? Why would a political convention change a person's perception whether or not he is "better off now"?

These polls are very suspicious if you ask me. No poll foretold the mandate election of 2010. Come on Democrats, get this lack of jobs problem corrected, get rid of $6500 annual mandated health insurance payment to big insurance companies under ObamaCare, or expect the "mother of all election polls" come November.

We've never, never, never, never, never, never, been this bad off before , Idiots !!!!

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Really, Beverly? Obama's only tactic is to vilify and stir up resentments and anger among different groups of Americans towards another. It obviously has worked on you. I don't have any optimism as far as he is concerned. Five TRILLION in new debt. Deficit spending through the roof and climbing when we need to be cutting back and getting out of this monstrous burden. Horrible things happening overseas and he goes out shopping for more money instead of standing up for the country he is supposed to lead. Gas prices doubled and still going up. Energy prices going up, food prices going up. I am not looking forward to spending my winter in a 60 degree house eating only beans and rice and potatoes because that's all I will be able to afford.

An MSNBC poll ? You might as well call it a MSDNC poll ! Funny how this comes out as FEDEX comes out with a downgraded, pessimistic projection of earnings. I guess they won't be hiring too many new faces. Our national debt is $16 trillion and Obama has never signed a budget. Obama wants to raise taxes ... that will not bring out a POSITIVE reply !!

But who cares right ? As long as the propaganda arms of the Obama administration are painting a picture as pretty as the yellow brick road, they hope no one will notice the national debt, the high unemployment rate and the despair that continues to grow.

Only in the parallel universe of the liberal media spin machine do people get attacked for telling the truth. Obama is a proven failure in every sense of the word, his ineptitude and lack of leadership are painfully obvious. We already knew that with regard to the economy, the national debt, jobs and healthcare but now its showing up on foreign policy where the middle east at large is spinning out of control and all the administration does is trot out their hacks to attribute blame to an obscure film trailer few muslims have even seen. No indignation on the left to the feeble explanations? This administration's only priority is self perpetuation by any means necessary. No answers, no plan, no accountability. Truly pathetic!

edandbunny,

Very true. What I have said to this point. In the beginning I was all for Obama and his message back in 2008. In fact being of mixed races. I thought this would give America the chance to heal from its race issues from the early years up until now. Then when he said he would bring our infrastructure back up to speed. Then take us down an energy Independence road. I was all for his message. Then he said he would work with both sides.

Well he had control of the House and Senate in his first two years. I think the Democrats feel he spent too much time on the Heath Care Bill rather than other issues. This in my opinion is where he failed. Once he got to the President's office he realized he was going to have to play ball with some heavy duty Power Brokers. These people control both Parties.

I for one said Hillary/Powell would of been the Democratic Dream Ticket. IT would of brought the middle, middle conservatives, liberal conservatives, and Democrats all under one umbrella. I've said the GOP needs to widen its Umbrella. This is what people see that dismays them when they see these weirdo's dressed up in these red, white and blue clown suits in attendance and they ask themselves are we a part of this party. That is my read.

We need to take back our parties and bring them both back on track. More in line with the People of this Great Nation. I will close with this. Bill Clinton was the Democrat's Best Statesman ever. Therefore why Obama asked Clinton to give the pre acceptance speech. The Clintons know what their doing. 2016 is in their sights.

Of course some are quite excited about these polls. But the reality is that most of these polls have been oversampling Democrats by +11 over Republicans & Independents. So of course Obama will be up this large of margins.

I say bring it on, will just make it more likely to get more Republicans out to vote and Democrats less likely since the polls indicated Obama has such a large lead. All you have to do is read the post by Democrats. "I think Obama is going to win easily". Whereas Republicans "this is going to be a tight race".

@Laker Steve

Funny.....the damage started a year and 1/2 after the Democrats took over Congress in 2006 and we've been bleeding ever since to the tune of 23 million unemployed and trillions of debt along with 2 credit rating declines.

If you are talking about the economy, the damage started with George W. Bush taking office. We had budget surpluses then and the national debt was actually going DOWN as some of that surplus was going to pay the debt.

8 years of corporate tax cuts and tax cuts for the wealthy, along with more lax regulation of industry (the banking industry in particular) and 2 wars is what got us here.

It's funny how short republican's memories are.

Irish,

Your online beating of this Dork fella is awesome! LOL! It's like you are the LAPD and Dork is Rodney King. LMFAO!

Liberals. God Love em! LOL!

Optimism about free handouts and putting our grandkids in chains is up! Yea more for me!!!

To no one's surprise, NBC's poll is bulls**t. The Gallup poll out today show's Obama's lead cut to one point, 46% to 45%.....and Gallup is verrrry pro-Obama.

I must say people must be getting dumber if I were to believe this tall story. Romney sp[oke the truth and people did not like it. So what! NBC and all the other liberal stations made something out of nothing. Let me get this straight though so I can be sure what people are happy with Obama about:

1. We just got another debt downgrade with more on the way because os Obamas out of control spending sprees.

2. Unemployment is still above 8% with real unemployment above 14.7% which before anyone yeps these are numbers from the Obama adminstration. Which most likely means they are higher.

3. We have the highest number of population on welfare and food stamps than at anytime in our history. Again these are numbers from Obamas own people.

4. Obamas answer is to do the same and spend yet another trillion dollars.

5. Obamas own policies have created uncertainty and fewer jobs.

So here is the list why people are so happy? Romney tells the truth and he gets lamb blasted by the liberal media and Obama lies and he gets the key to America. Sounds like a lot of stupid people to me or many too dependent on the government.

NBC - I believe in the Easter Bunny! what is getting better? My job will be gone the first of the year and I pray Obama is also!

Laker Steve

Funny.....the damage started a year and 1/2 after the Democrats took over Congress in 2006 and we've been bleeding ever since to the tune of 23 million unemployed and trillions of debt along with 2 credit rating declines.

Seriously? Your really going to blame Wall Street deregulation, two wars (unfunded), Medicare Part D (unfunded) and the Bush Tax Cuts (unfunded) on the Democrats of the 2006 Congress? How many consecutive mouths of growth have we had since electing Obama? How many jobs were we losing when Bush left office...750,000/mo?

This is what you have left? ...we win.

Here's the deal, you may not like Romney. You may hate his guts. You may think he is a liar and a cheat and maybe he is.

But he can create wealth. He has a proven track record. This election is about economy, it's not about social issues as much as the DNC wanted to paint it that way. We can wait 4 years to get a visa or get married. We cannot wait 4 years to pay bills and feed families. Social issues fix themselves when the country is fat and happy. Right now we are operating lean and everyone's pissed at everyone else.

On election day, the only question you have to ask is: Who's done a good job making money?

The answer is astonishingly clear.

MmmMmmBeer

Here's the deal, you may not like Romney. You may hate his guts. You may think he is a liar and a cheat and maybe he is.

But he can create wealth. He has a proven track record. This election is about economy, it's not about social issues as much as the DNC wanted to paint it that way. We can wait 4 years to get a visa or get married. We cannot wait 4 years to pay bills and feed families. Social issues fix themselves when the country is fat and happy. Right now we are operating lean and everyone's pissed at everyone else.

No, he can inherit wealth. He can live his life of wealth and privilege. He can build an elevator for his cars. He can make millions loading companies up with debt then stripping them of assets. Then he can dump their retirement responsibilities on the American Tax Payers.

On election day, the only question you have to ask is: Who's done a good job making money?

The answer is astonishingly clear.

I don't know how to break this to you slick...but the purpose of government is not to turn a profit. There is a huge difference between government and the private sector. The government is the US Army; the private sector is Blackwater. Any questions?

The way MSNBC bashes anything Republican, and praises anything Democrat, makes you almost wonder if they are on the Democrats payroll.

This news is pathetic; It's a joke !

The new Democratic agenda, which MSNBC seems to be endorsing is damn near Communism. No thanks to that !

You got your ass spanked on this BS yesterday, and now you want seconds? lol

Typical right wing nitwit, when in doubt, double down on stupid!

LMFAO!! Oh Feisty you kill me with your comments. You just saved the flip flopping hypocrite from my rhetoric.

Ol Croc, If the federal government keeps losing its a$$ financially ... to the tune of $1.3 to $1.6 trillion a year or so the United States will be like Greece, or worse, BANKRUPT !

When our proverbial BUTT is $16 trillion in debt, denying the reality of financial calamity is like being up to your neck in the floodwaters of New Orleans after Katrina .... and saying "I'm not wet" !

I am optimistic about the way he has straightened out both the economy and the Middle East. Four more years and everything will be perfect, just you watch!

Obama/Biden 2012

Ol_Doc

MmmMmmBeer

Here's the deal, you may not like Romney. You may hate his guts. You may think he is a liar and a cheat and maybe he is.

But he can create wealth. He has a proven track record. This election is about economy, it's not about social issues as much as the DNC wanted to paint it that way. We can wait 4 years to get a visa or get married. We cannot wait 4 years to pay bills and feed families. Social issues fix themselves when the country is fat and happy. Right now we are operating lean and everyone's pissed at everyone else.

No, he can inherit wealth. He can live his life of wealth and privilege.

I hate to break it to you Doc, but Romney donated his entire inheritance to charity. All the money Romney has, he earned himself.

Will we remember where we were when we first heard the Gov. express

his disdain for the combat soldiers whose military wages are exempt from fed tax,

his dismissive reaction to those seniors who spent their lives funding the Social Security that now keeps them alive and

his indifference to those deadbeats laid off of good paying jobs who are surviving on unemployment checks while searching for a job that a prosperous equity firm will provide?

Will we remember where we were when Romney announced that he would rather the 47% just go away and let he and his buddies run the country for themselves? When the Republican party finally realized that it was eating its own.

MSNBC is dredging the sewer now, looking for any spark that may provide a faint hope that their dear leader Odumbo will get 4 more years to play golf, blame Bush, blame the rich, etc., etc., etc. The 7% more who say things are better now than the 31% who responded likewise 1 month ago represent nothing more than 7% more democrats being asked the question. If that is not the case, tell me what has happened in the past 30 days to inspire optimismin in those 7%? Gasoline went up, groceries cost more, unemployment still on the wrong side of 8%, and the middle east is getting more unstable by the minute. All the usual suspect who support the a$$ clown Odumbo can hardly contain their glee, convinced in their own parties propaganda that its getting better and better every day. Kool-Aid anyone?

Wait - I checked the U.S. Constitution...

No mention of any requirement to show one's tax returns in any run for Office of the POTUS.

Go back to your reality TV shows, 'tards.

Perhaps my eyes are shut because I don’t see what the article sees, optimism in Obama’s presidency?! In my neck of the woods all I see is negative sentiment towards the president, division, mounting debt, falling living standards, depressed small business owners, poverty and despair.

Another 4 years of the same in the White House would be disastrous for the country. What will remain of our golden years, will be archived in libraries and with historians. I fear for the future of our next generations, our debt will be their nightmare.

Vote No to the continuation of the status quo in the WH.

38% are so uninformed as to say we are better off?

YOU obviously can't remember 4 years ago. A little contrast, then and now:

...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.

April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.

DJIA Dec 26, 2008 8515
DJIA sep 17, 2012 13564

Dec 29, 2008 (Bloomberg) U.S. corporate earnings fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.

May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.

And that, my friend, is why you and the Republican party are having such a hard time selling your "doom and gloom"!

Here is Mr. Obama's PLAN IF, and that is a big IF, he is re-elected:

1. The re-creation of a 21st-century version of FDR's Works Progress Administration program within the Department of Labor that would oversee a massive new bureaucracy and millions of new federal jobs;
2. An additional government-funded jobs program that provides "good jobs" capable of supporting a family with a "decent standard of living."
3. A new government mandate to force businesses to provide twelve weeks of paid benefits to employees who need time off to care for a new child, a sick family member, or their own illness. Plus, a higher, required minimum wage that would raise the floor for all employees.
4. An expansive, de facto amnesty program for illegal aliens via both executive order and interagency directives linked with a reduction in the capabilities of the U.S. Border Patrol.
5. Plans to bring in untold numbers of new immigrants with the removal of caps on H-1B visas and green cards.
6. Government-funded, neighborhood-based programs to better integrate the newly amnestied immigrants into society, including education centers and health care centers. A "federal solution" to ensure that the amnestied immigrants are treated "equitably" across the United States.
7. A National Infrastructure Bank that would evaluate and finance infrastructure projects of substantial regional and national importance" and would finance "transportation infrastructure, housing, energy, telecommunications, drinking water, wastewater, and other infrastructures."
8. The wresting of control of the military budget from Congress by placing an "independent panel" in charge of military spending while slashing the defense budget.
9. Spreading the vastly reduced resources of the U.S. Armed Forces even thinner by using them to combat "global warming," fight global poverty, remedy "injustice," bolster the United Nations and step up use of "peacekeeping" deployments;
10. A new "green" stimulus program and the founding of a federal "green" bank or "Energy
    Independence Trust," which would borrow from the federal treasury to provide low-cost financing to private-sector investments in "clean energy. "
11. A "green Manufacturing" revolving loan fund to create 680,000 manufacturing jobs and 1,972,000 additional jobs over five years
12. Detailed plans to enact single-payer health care legislation controlled by the federal government.

    Source: Aaron Klein's book: "Fool Me Twice: Obama's Shocking Plans for the Next Four Years Exposed."

Bottom line: MORE spending, MORE government control, reduction of our military forces (and what is left turn into BLUE Helmets for the U.N.), OPEN borders, and Amnesty FOR ALL.

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Voted for Mr. Obama in 2008 ? Embarrassed yet ?

Romney-Ryan 2012 to take back America from the Progressives and the Radicals.

gubby900......"straightened out the Middle East ?"

You have to be kidding. There are 27 countries shouting "death to America" and guess whose picture they are burning ? Your idol.....Mr. Obama.

Yeah, he has really straightened out the ME with his "appeasement policy".

Get with the program.

What's wrong with going straight to a primary source and pull out Barack Obama's plan from, gee, I don't know, Barack Obama's own Web site, Ido? It surely sounds more reliable than pulling it out of an obscure book written by some nutjob who STILL thinks there's any doubt as to Obama's birthplace and whose first and foremost allegiance is not to America but to Israel?

"Detailed plans to enact single-payer health care legislation controlled by the federal government."

Oh, that would be sweet. Single-payer, universal healthcare so that the citizens of the greatest country on Earth can finally enjoy full access to the best, most talented collection of doctors on Earth without some profit-minded insurance company as a middleman? That would be a dream come true. Sign me up.

Oh, right, the right doesn't want it. Because they're too religious to want it. After all, Jesus Christ was the first promoter of private-insurance healthcare, right?

Tickedoffin Ohio,

If you check the polls of the 10 leading pollsters your Rasmussen Poll is the only one with a Romney lead. It was also one of the oldest ones taken. All the rest have a 3-6% lead for Obama. With the "inarticulate" comment of Mitt's it will probably grow. Remember Paul Lying Ryan used the word !"

Ido, And why are they saying "Death to America? Because of Pap bush whacker and Baby bush whacker who fought three wars there and we are still there, in Kuwait, Iraq and Afghanistan. American Colonialism is what they see. The burn who ever is the leader of the country at the time, just like the burn the flag.

You are correct sir or madam. Fun fact: Mitt will lose almost every state he could claim as his home state: Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Michigan, California. Well, he does have a nice crib in Park City; so let's give him Utah.

What does it say about a candiate who will lose overwhelmingly in the states that know him best?

Just keep hoping. Just remember this - for an incumbent to be tied or marginally ahead even BEFORE the debates start is a very bad sign. Even Jimmy Carter was up by 2 points 10 days before the election in 1980 and Reagan won by a landslide. I was expecting Mitt to be down 6% to 8% prior to the first debate. If Mitt can stay tied or below by 3% or less just prior to the first debate then Mitt is in an EXCELLENT position to win this election.

I wouldn't be so giddy with still almost two months to go. Not looking good for Obama and you don't want to be known as the person so "confident" about 60 days out and then get possibly "spanked" in the election. I would tone down the excitement for just a little while to reduce your increased embarrassment later. An incumbent tied or marginally up by just a couple is a very very bad sign for the incumbent.

"I will cut the deficit in half during my first 4 years" LIE, he added 4 trillion to it, more than any President in history.

"I will close Gitmo" LIE

"I will end these wars" LIE

"With this stimulus that just passed unemployment will never get above 7%" LIE

"I will bring about a "new era" of cooperation in Washington" LIE

Dude, your a total failure, and I don't care what standard is being used. Your getting a big fat F!

"Thirty-eight percent of registered voters now say the nation is better off"

Trillions more in debt and only 62% DON'T think we are better off..... my what success!

Trillions more in debt and only 62% DON'T think we are better off..... my what success!

and what plan does Mitt and Ryan have to change that? None that i've heard of that will work. Any ideas?

ROMNEY EVEN LIES TO HIS OWN PARTY!

During repub debates they all asked him to show them his taxes and he said he would. ANN SAYS HE WON"T show his taxes......she said so!

Ann wears the pants in the family and Mittster wears the Pander Pants!

Show us your damn taxes Romney. You already proved to your own party you are a liar! Prove to the world you are not the lying tax cheat we all believe you are!

yep, you can just never tell by those polls. Besides, there's a lot of things that can happen in the interim between now and Nov 6. A mixed bag of tricks can make President Obama shine, even look sublime depending on how he handles things. And by the same token, there is plenty of time for Mittwitt to say more wistful, incredibly predictable and repulsive things... none of which are going to win him votes. Let's look forward to the debates. I'm rather certain both Romney and Ryan are in for an asswhoopin'. Barack is no easy take in that arena and I think ol' Joe was pretty easy on Palin in '08. He knew she would step off in it without him having to be intentionally mean. But, I do remember the Watergate Hearings where Joe was a young and tough mo'fo'... rather instrumental in Nixon deciding to resign before he faced that bunch. You see, Joe's been at this political game for a very long time. Ryan is really still a newbie and one who has proven to blab off brazen lies. Yes, it oughta be some mighty good debates! Prime time entertainment I would guess.

You gotta love these Tea Baggers dressed up as Republicans! Who else could come up with such an idiot as Willard Mutt Romney?! The man is incredible. Every week its some new stupid, insensitive comment he's made. Well, you should now be able to tell why he would tie his dog to the roof of his car. His campaign knew months ago they couldn't sell him to the American public, so they are banking on Fat Cat Super Pacs and rigging elections. They know how close the election was in 2000 when the Supreme Court decided for us. They are hoping for the same thing again. JUST VOTE - PLEASE!

Thurston Howle Robme The 3rd

You piece of sh!t, rwnj dumb azz mother f-ucker. I knew you hated me although I worked my whole life since age 13 make a good living but pay no taxes due to tax deductions.

I currently will be switching my vote: PRESIDENT OBAMA 2012

Seeing as this is nbc saying this,we all know to take this with a grain of salt,as they never say anything that goes against ovomit! He has done nothing good since taking office,our credit rateing has dropped twice because of him.All he does is spend spend spend when there is no money to pay for all his bailouts.Name one good thing he has done! And dont give me the crap that he got osama bin laden,becaues he didnt,the Navey Seals did,he hesitated on giving the order three times.Romney wasnt my choice, but at least come 2016 we will still have the right to vote him out.If ovomit gets it you can kiss the rest of your freedoms by by,because he will gut the constitution the rest of the way by them.Wake the hell up!

FACTS YOU'LL NEVER HEAR ON FOX
NEWS:
FACT: Roger Ailes is president of Fox News Channel, chairman of the Fox
Television Stations Group. Ailes was a media consultant for Republican
presidents Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George H. W. Bush.

JOBS -- Under Obama, 4.5 Million private sector jobs have been
created in just the past 3 years - this after Bush losing 750K per month at the
end of his term. Labor Force Statistics from the Current
Population Survey (Source: BLS Rpt. LNU02000000)

GOP MISLEAD WITH:
"LESS PEOPLE WORKING NOW THAN 2009" - These job losses occurred during Obama's
first year. It took time to turn things around after Bush's 750K jobs lost per
month. If you read the graph at bottom you can clearly see that under Obama job
losses were turned around.

DEBT - - per Congressional Budget
Office -- BUSH LEFT Obama $1.2 Trillion DEFICIT, and 3 Trillion in DEBT
projected into Obama's term. Add to this the worst economic crisis in 80
years. GOP 2006 Senate, 49/49/2. Who's to blame for our
debt?

STOCK MARKET- Under Bush, DOW closed at around 8000. Under
Obama, we're now at 13000! Obama's policies have benefited "ALL our retirements
and 401K" with stock market recovery!

ECONOMIC GROWTH - Positive Growth
now AFTER BEING HANDED Negative by Bush.

TARP - with the threat of
further regulation, most of TARP has been paid back w/ interest! Under Bush,
this $$$ was loaned unconditionally amounting to corporate
welfare.

TAXES, taxes are lower for all but the richest, despite GOP
obstruction! GOP recently fought tooth-and-nail to increase the burden on the
middle class via the payroll tax. Thank You Mr. Obama. Furthermore, Tax Policy
Center -- taking a close look at Romney's proposed tax and economic plan ---
concluded that it would cut taxes for the richest Americans and actually raise
them on the poor.

OBAMACARE: Nixon, McCain, Romney and Gingrich, all FOR
mandate before they were against it! Romney implemented the ORIGINAL Obamacare
and mandate was originally a GOP idea!

TERRORISM - under Obama's
leadership and renewed focus he promised during the 2008 election - we got
Bin!!!

AMERICAN LIVES - Egypt and Libya uprising - NO AMERICAN
DEATHS!!!

*** All of these things and more with NOTHING but GOP
Obstruction and fingerprinting!

IN TRUTH, IT TAKES A
FAILED PERSON TO CALL OBAMA A FAILURE.

I think your babies will starve easily too!

* MORE YEARS!!! GOOOOBAMA! ...because having enough money to feed your children is WAY too overrated anyway!

I just want Romney to continue to be himself. President Obama doesn't have to do much from now on to win. He will eat Romney's lunch during the debates and it should then be a done deal. I find it amazing that Caesar and his minion of fellow cretins don't have much to say about the recent tape that was leaked. You can bet you A$$ that they are part of the 47% that Romney is dismissing and referring to as "those people". Why would you vote for someone who has so little respect for them.?

ProBusiness - God, how I'd like to meet you in person. LOL.

I'd think long and hard about your comments about others being "embarrassed..." like all GOP, your comments stand in direct contrast to reality as any poll or metric shows. I think we both know the conventions showed us where the GOP stand on "substance." They do fine with an empty chair but come debate time your dead-end talking points will go the way of the dodo.

How did you like that bounce? Pretty much count on the debates having the same effect. Substance over hate and propaganda.

LOL.

PLEASE REMEMBER YOUR WORDS BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO SAVOR YOUR FAILURE AS A GOP, AS A DEBATER, AND AS A MAN.

If Romney currently lives off capitol gains income, then I bet he is better off today than he was 4 years ago. That's probably one of the reasons why he won't show his taxes. He doesn't want us to see how his portfollio has doubled since Obama took office. Also, he doesn't want the mormon church to know how he has been stiffing them of their full 10% of his income.

PS. BTW Grover, keep getting the boneheads with the facts. Maybe one day you will get through their thick, bigoted skulls.

Gail Arvizo, you are perfect fodder for the likes of Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Grover Norquist and the Koch Bros. Dumb as a box of rocks. And that's overlooking the terrible grammar and embarrassing spelling errors.

Vote Republican 2012!

Obama bad for US. Wants to implode America. Agenda most ignorant people ignore or refuse to believe.

pinheads for obama

Mitt's tax returns will probably show him to have commited voter fraud. That's a felony and would make him ineligible to run for president.

Obviously, a majority of wingers on this blog have not been listening to their own pundits and strategists. Check out last week's Values Summit and listen to the comments your own people are making about your clueless candidate. Don't take the word of people who can think rationally, hear what winger leaders are saying. They can't figure why, in such a bad economy, Romney isn't running away in the polls. That, in and of itself, is a scream, and tells you how little they listen to anyone except those who will fill that void above their shoulders with more right wing pablum.

I shouldn't do this, but I know they won't pay any attention to it so here's the answer to your clueless question: Republicans will lose in November because A) you have an EXCEPTIONALLY weak candidate, 2) you have an EXCEPTIONALLY weak message, and 3) you deliver that EXCEPTIONALLY weak message in a way that really, really pisses people off! There - now you know, so go fix your campaign strategy.

Grover Dorkquist

Is that what Faux Noize, Dildo, Beckerhead, Fatbo, Boortz and Lush is saying now??

That's your response to everything that you don't agree with. It's like the 10th time you've copied the same post.

You can't go around saying that when most conservatives don't watch them.

What about you, who reads this "NBC firstread" stuff every day? Talk about brain washing. At least the conservatives here look at both sides of the picture... Or they wouldn't be here.

Bev..."...our Presidents thinks of '' We the people"...

LOL! That is unless he's referring to the bunch of Americans who cling to their guns and their bibles. You know, "those other people".

hs321,

Or maybe Bev likes his other line: "My grandmother was a typical white racist woman"

Tell us hs321, do you own either of those?

That was 4 years ago by the way. The subject today is what the Republican presidential candidate said regarding 47% of the electorate whom HE EQUATED with the 47% of the eligible tax paying population that don't pay federal income taxes.

Do try to stick to the subject at hand, even though we know you have no rational defense of your candidates position on this particular issue.

To StopTheLiesNOW -- Great post with FACTS YOU'LL NEVER HEAR ON FOX NEWS and right on every single thing in your list.

I didn't know until last night that at least 5 of the paid politcal pundits on Fox news are members of the Mitt Romney campaign which is probably very convient for his campaign:

Elaine Chao is a national chair of the Mitt Romney for president campaign

Walid Phares is an advisor on foreign policy and national security to the Mitt Romney campagn

Jay Sekulow is a Romney adviser

John R. Bolton is a campaign foreign policy adviser

They work for the Romney campaign while they work on Fox News.

Karl Rove, Fox News politcal analyst does not work for Romney's campaign but his most definitely a financial player in the 2012 election with his American Cross Roads super pac.

So basically, Fox ?News? is a subsidiary of the Romney campaign. Surprise, surprise.

ProBusiness

Just keep hoping. Just remember this - for an incumbent to be tied or marginally ahead even BEFORE the debates start is a very bad sign. Even Jimmy Carter was up by 2 points 10 days before the election in 1980 and Reagan won by a landslide. I was expecting Mitt to be down 6% to 8% prior to the first debate. If Mitt can stay tied or below by 3% or less just prior to the first debate then Mitt is in an EXCELLENT position to win this election.

Now why would you have an icon depicting Richard M. Nixon? Oh...I get it, you're a republican. For any incumbent to even be within striking distance with kind of economy Obama inherited is nearly unheard of. This is not a good harbinger for Willard. And Willard still has a couple of months to alienate the American people...even without the debates...and the debates will be the nails in his coffin.

JCB-1236504

"I will cut the deficit in half during my first 4 years" LIE, he added 4 trillion to it, more than any President in history.

More like 6 trillion. He started at 10.2 trillion, today he is at 16,039,000,000,000.00

Looks like a lot of trolls from mediamatters on this thread. The DOJ must have sent out the new mail all at once.

Looks like the GOP are in trouble... nothing left but stupid little quips. LOL

I was expecting Mitt to be down 6% to 8% prior to the first debate.

Well, there is still time. All Mitt Romney has to do is open his mouth again. Barring any sudden attack of laryngitis, I fully expect Romney to hit 10% down before the debates!

Mitt Romney was the best out of a sad clown posse of candidates the Republicans put up this election. But that's not saying much. Too bad for the Republicans that Romney is saying sooo much!

This article says optimism for Obama increases. What did he do? Promise more free stuff?

Actually according to most fact checkers, Mitt's the pathological liar. In fact, he'd make a darn good sociopath!

Lets not get overly confident; we are only in the bottom of the sixth. Fight like hell, get out the vote. Ha!! even the Cubies can make comebacks. Don't get lazy.

4 more 4 44

MakesSense-3389651

Am I better off than I was 4 years ago? Not even close! I cannot vote for more of the same...

Then don't vote for the Republicans.

MakesSense-3389651

The past decade has been bad for working Americans. (Been great for the wealthiest, however, whose incomes didn't go down even during the recession.) Bush's tax cuts did not create prosperity for all.

But what gets me, is that, when I was a teenager, I could only hope Mom and Dad would buy me a Walkman for Christmas. Today's teenagers are walking around with technology my teenage self would ascribe to characters on Star Trek. I see 18 year olds with iPhones, iPads, and iPods riding the public bus. Some country we live in. Yeah, we got it bad.

How ionic, partisan thinkers arguing about who is the biggest liar, just when you thought you had seen it all...

Amy - Nicely stated.

AmyB...

Yep, spending money like there is no tomorrow is cool? Seems that regardless of how you feel about the obama (bush) tax cuts discretionary spending by all income classes is still around (by your observations).

Seems that our parents knew a thing or two about spending wisely that has obviously fallen on deaf ears today. I can hardly wait to see the tearing of clothing and hearing the nashing of teeth when the FED starts increasing interest rates.

You know you're right Amy. It was much simpler back then. I'm 26 but I still know that it's crazy that kids are walking around with $600 phones that will be outdated in less than a year. That's when they'll mysteriously drop in the toilet lol. Shoes that cost $250 a pop and don't even ask them to pack a sack lunch! How embarassing! (says my teenage sister) That's another $5-$10 a day on fast food, candy and sodas.

American children are the real entitlement society lol.

Mitt Robmey is toast in case anyone is still thinking otherwise. All they have to do is play that tape saying "I don't care about the 47%" over and over again in ads.

• It's over, over, overrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... whoops got carried away there..

Amy..."Bush's tax cuts did not create prosperity for all." You do realize that Obama kept Bush's tax cuts in place, right? So if the tax cuts didn't help, then explain why the economy has improved under Obama?

Well, never mind, everyone just twists the "facts" into whatever shape they want to see.

Of course the economy is better off. It hit bottom and has been very slowly improving. The question is, could it have improved faster than it has, or would it have done worse if nothing was done? Back to twisting.

The economy is falling again, hs321. The GDP is shriveling up like a Shrinky Dink and unemployment is getting slowly worse. What he's tried hasn't worked.

"... explain why the economy has improved under Obama?"

Talk about out of touch. Dude, what planet have you been living on for the past four years?

Suds in Denver...

Swing State who believes Mutt is an idiot.

Wow excellent comment. If you list success by income EARNED then Mitt is a genius and you my friend are not even in the ballpark. If you are saying that intelligence is graduating from Harvard then again you have missed that target again. Keep trying because the more people like you blog the more you show your ignorance and bigotry. Your comment lends one to believe that you hate successful people because you have failed miserably in your life. Now if you don't agree with Romney's politics that fine but the typical name calling just show your lack of class and ignorance.

hs321

Amy..."Bush's tax cuts did not create prosperity for all." You do realize that Obama kept Bush's tax cuts in place, right? So if the tax cuts didn't help, then explain why the economy has improved under Obama?

hs321, you do realize that the only reason that President Obama extended the tax cuts is because the Republican controlled House refused to extend unemployment benefits unless he agreed to extend the Bush Tax cuts for all incomes brackets.

Nice try at deflection but as my uncle would say, "That dog won't hunt."

Fed Up-2683606

Obama is merely reality challenged... telling lies for him is pathalogical....

You clearly didn't do any research what so ever before posting this neo-conservative dribble.

Would you like to compare the number and depth of Obama's lies with the number and depth of Willard and Ryan's lies...do you really want to go there...?

commonsense53

Suds in Denver...

Swing State who believes Mutt is an idiot.

Wow excellent comment. If you list success by income EARNED then Mitt is a genius and you my friend are not even in the ballpark. If you are saying that intelligence is graduating from Harvard then again you have missed that target again.

And what exactly is your point? It appears Satan is fairly intelligent...but I won't vote for him either.

You do realize that Obama kept Bush's tax cuts in place, right? So if the tax cuts didn't help, then explain why the economy has improved under Obama?

Well, first of all, Obama was blackmailed into extending those tax cuts by Republicans in the House. They held the extension of unemployment benefits hostage to get Bush tax cuts extended.

Now, Republicans are crying over the increase in national debt under Obama. If they were sooo concerned over the growth of our national debt, then why did they insist on keeping revenues down by insisting on keeping the Bush tax cuts?

And, no, those tax cuts did not help the economy while Bush was president and they aren't helping now. Why is the economy improving? Can you spell "stimulus"?

The Economist, Jun, 2012:

Here's the CBO's latest report on the now-waning effects of the stimulus. Previous reports showed it creating as many as 3.3m jobs in a quarter. It should be noted that even the CBO admits some uncertainty in its findings. So at the hearings Mr Elmendorf also cited a survey of a diverse group of economists which found that 80% of them thought the unemployment rate was lower at the end of 2010 as a result of the stimulus. I think deep down, many Republicans believe this too. This week I've received a flurry of emails from a conservative group touting the job-creating benefits of defence spending, suggesting suppressed Keynesian sympathies.

As long as the Republicans keep saying "no" instead of working with the president you are right. The country will be destroyed.

THAT'S ROMNEY RYEN'S PLAN TO TOTALLY DESTROY THE COUNTRY & you fall right in place with them both ALI-CAO- remember you are in with their 47% to destroy you pathetic loser,just like your party a party of liers.

The fact he had the house and senate in the first 2 years is the only reason we stabilized in the first place. Yes, positive job growth is stability BTW, fact check me on that if you will.

So, if the TEA No Party would work with the President we'd be over the hump for sure but the "One term crowd" poisoned the well and it may backfire with Myth Romney.

MakesSense - he DID NOT have a filibuster proof house and senate for 2 years - just a mere 44 days. During that time he made the mistake of trying to work with Republicans and after that Republicans in Congress used the filibuster more than it has ever been used in the history of the country. Next lie from you????

Oh - President Obama has singed 135 executive orders. President Bush signed 291.

Obama/Biden 2012

During that time he made the mistake of trying to work with Republicans and after that Republicans in Congress used the filibuster more than it has ever been used in the history of the country.

flat out Lie, he never worked with congress, he never worked with republicans.

'We don’t mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.'

flat out Lie, he never worked with congress, he never worked with republicans.

you're so full of sh!t, the Roto Rooter guy won't even touch you.

"...Yes, positive job growth.." "Positive" or "net" job growth?

Even if it's growth, it's dismal growth. OK, back to twisting facts.

I have to double down on the comment above concerning the President having the house and senate. A president is not a dictator as we have learned very well watching him try and deal with the "Party of No" only to have nothing get done. When he had the slight majority he got quite a few things done that he wanted. Republicans decry the president of being ineffective because he hasn't done anything "they" wanted. But he has in fact done some things that we, "his voters" wanted. We are all happy the auto industry is saved. We are happy that people who couldn't get health insurance before, can get it now. We are happy that he wants to make sure the rich pay their fair share legally. Its not about how many entitlements we can give. We're giving out what we need to give out. There is a very robust fraud detection industry that works with social services departments everywhere and when people cheat they get in trouble just like white collor criminals like Bernie Madoff. No one is getting away scott free without the risk of getting caught. Its time for people to just wake up and realize that this is a nation of hard workers. Sure there are slackers in every race, and social status level. But most of us of every creed and color work hard and we are proud of what we have achieved. Let the fraud departments worry about the cheaters and lets get on with continuing to "create a more perfect union" for "everyone" in the Union. Our problem is that we refuse to ask questions and find out what the reality is for people. We call people slackers who are not slackers. We stereotype people who in reality don't fit the stereotype so we are acting on bad information. People who can afford to pay for every bill, expense, college, etc. because of inheritance or because of parental assistance are not frowned upon. But people who have never had wealth or inheritance handed down are frowned upon when they need assistance from the government. The government protects all of us in different ways. The rich get to keep their wealth and land because they are protected from foreign invasion by our government's military. The poor and elderly are protected from starvation, disease, lack of education but our governments social services programs. Everybody is getting one form of protection or another so its time to let go of the petty arguments and look at the bigger picture where everyone has an opportunity to be successful.

In 1996, both the Chinese and the Walton family (Walmart) contributed to Clinton's campaign. China entered the WTO after Clinton negotiated the trade agreement with the Chinese. This was followed by U.S. companies going under as manufacturing and jobs were shipped to China. Walmart was one of the single largest importers of Chinese goods. Yep, Bill Clinton really helped the U.S.

Sorry, but Obama and the Republicans did vote together on free trade agreement and the majority of Democrats voted AGAINST Obama.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44989775/ns/politics-white_house/t/obama-signs-trade-deals-biggest-nafta/#.UFjUwVGJ1VY

"Party of No". Please! The Democrats would not allow the Republicans to have any say on Obamacare the Democrats, party of no, repeatedly shut the Republicans out and to them NO, you cannot participate.

But when the Republicans play politics and say no, they're evil or something.

P.S. Pelosi and Reid ran DC for Obama's first two years.

• Along with NOT putting Mitt Robmey into the Presidency, please vote the TEA BAGS out of Congress.
• Then perhaps we'll get something done!!!

In the liberal media, if optimisim were 1% in August and 2% in September, the headline would read "optimism increases by 100%".

hs321

"Party of No". Please! The Democrats would not allow the Republicans to have any say on Obamacare the Democrats, party of no, repeatedly shut the Republicans out and to them NO, you cannot participate.

That is a LIE. You must work for the Romney campaign since every response you have posted is full of half truths, distortions and omissions.

hs321

In 1996, both the Chinese and the Walton family (Walmart) contributed to Clinton's campaign. China entered the WTO after Clinton negotiated the trade agreement with the Chinese. This was followed by U.S. companies going under as manufacturing and jobs were shipped to China. Walmart was one of the single largest importers of Chinese goods. Yep, Bill Clinton really helped the U.S.

Oh, I see. American Corporations shipped jobs to China because of Bill Clinton. And those patriotic neo-conservatives and tea baggers have been struggling to get those jobs back ever since...right? I know they said US Jobs were their highest priority during the 2010 election and look what they've done!

...very impressive indeed.

• 44 bills on abortion
• 99 bills on Religion
• 71 bills on Family Relationships
• 36 bills on Marriage
• 67 bills on Firearms/Gun Control
• 522 bills on Taxation
• 445 bills on Government Investigations.

Romney and Ryan don't need propaganda to make themselves look bad. They do a perfectly fine job of it on their own. Romney is running the most woefully incompetent campaign of the modern age. You can't blame it on the media - Romney keeps sticking his silver foot in his mouth.

Are you suggesting Romney is a communist propaganda machine...? because he is the only one speaking in the tape. The media doesn't make him say the stupid things he says, he does that on his own.

Should we investigate F-UCK UP Noise as a communist propaganda machine?

Of course we should. "Off with their heads" as the English would say.

Ron, you are so right.... er.... left? I always get so mixed up !! Sometimes I even forget who is trying the most to destroy America. I'm not sure why everybody seems so keen on doing that. Maybe it's 'cuz nobody listened to them when they were growing up.

Anyhow, thanks for enlightening post. It's always good to know where I should stand on these issues. I always say "left is right and right is wrong", ..... well, sometimes I say that. Sometimes I just say "no".

Ron, I am so sick of you people and the way you throw around this communist, he is a communist, and you probably don't know the slightest thing about communisum. First of all, communisum is not just about big government, it's about taking away freedoms. And if there is ever a group of people who would take away more and more our personal freedoms its the conservatives, and that you can bet on. I do know about communisum.

Obama has taken away the freedon to "NOT BUY HEALTH INSURANCE" if one is young, healthy and willing to take the risk.

Beverly from chicago....I still think you were the beverly i knew for a couple summers in northern wisconsin....those were some crazy nights....never thought you'd turn out to be a lib...too bad.

lu, and composer, and MireVo3,

I really think Ron was being sarcastic. Think about sarcasm as he writes, "We need hearings on the media. Unless, of course, it is accurate." [bold italics added].

Would anyone who really believed the commie conspiracy theory add that last zinger?

jim-1455434

Obama has taken away the freedon to "NOT BUY HEALTH INSURANCE" if one is young, healthy and willing to take the risk.

Nope...Congress passed it.

The Republicans on the Supreme Court took away our Democracy with the Citizens United decision. Welcome to the Corporate States of America. See...you can keep all that CSA civil war memorabilia...it's back.

communist propaganda to make someone like Romney/Ryan to look as bad as possible

That doesn't take any communist propaganda. All Mitt has to do is open his mouth.

Besides, why in the hell would communists attack Romney. Romney/Bain has done more to improve Communist China's economy and undermine America's manufacturing base than ever before in American history. Just imagine what he can do if he gets elected as president. America may only survive as a Chinese colony! It is a Communist dream that Romney/Ryan get elected!

Commie? Still stuck in the 50's I see, Marla. How's that working for you?

Jim, I figured three syllables may be too much for some of you....so I shortened the very accurate term. If you'd like to read books without pictures, try reading the one your hero wrote himself about the dreams "from" his father..... Call me, guys, if you need help with the big words like anti-colonialism.

Marla ...

Romney was right-- people do feel entitled

As they should be to the benefits they have EARNED! In your little diatribe I noted that you didn't state ONE thing that you felt was worthy of a vote for Mitt Romney. Just the usual President bashing. Do you have a thought of your own? Some worthy statistics of how a Romney presidency would benefit this country???? ANYTHING?

Romney is not a communist, Layton-- getting the communist out of office benefits the country.

Happy now?

That's right, Marla, don't even attempt an intelligent reply. It'll only hurt your pathetically few brain cells.

Please-- like your original one showed stellar intellect? Get over yourself.

ummm....what?

I see you are still, not repub, not indep. not tp not demo, I called you when you first posted. Keep believing a liar and I wish you could get what you hope for which is Rmoney as president. But I'm not willing to vote him as president, maybe next time. You so called christian always forget the part "It would be harder for a rich man to make it to heaven than a camel thru the eye of a needle" and even with that in YOUR bible you never asked why? Lady go back and make the cookies.

we all know barak obama has communist leanings....he even says his mentor was frank marshall davis. it's well known he was nudged into running for office by bernadine dorn and bill ayers, admitted communists.

look, all of us have read his books.....obama does not throw these people under the bus....in fact he is quite open about his relationships with communists.

what i dont understand is.....where is the outrage ? ...democrats used to be anti-communist...but they dont care, they embrace van jones...even after he said "yeah, i am a member of the communist party of america" (obama sacked him a few days afterward but democrats still love van jones to this day)

there are so many ways i think barak obama has committed treason just by having ties to communism....most us had a family member fight the cold war....but the democrats have no problem what so ever with this.

i dont feel good about america anymore.....i certainly dont address barak obama as "president"....because for half of us....barak obama is not our president.....we live under the obama rule, we have to sit and take whatever the obama regime says. ....we are an oppressed people, because obama only wants his side...his party members....his campaign donors....to have a say in what happens in america.

when obama started doing things....forcing obamacare down the throats of all americans. there was opposition....but that opposition did not count. i heard "shut up, you lost" repeated time and time again.

the america we all once knew is long gone.....this is "obamas america".

Marla, I noted in your comment back to me you didn't respond to my question about why you are touting Romney. I said nothing in my post about your communist remark. Reading comprehension not your bag, eh?

Marla - when you spout the "communist" nonsense you prove to all of us you have no intelligence. Did you even finish elementary school? Only a totally ignorant fool is clinging to the communist stupidity. And, when you throw it out it shows you have absolutely nothing to tout about your candidate so you stoop to the gutter - which, I'm guessing - is your usual habitat!

Obama/Biden 2012

Marla - I assume that you will not be participating in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid when you retire. That if god for bid you or a family member losses there job that you will not seek unemployment. That you plan on being totally self sufficient. Your own policeman, fireman, emergency response personnel. That you will pay for your children education and build your own roads and transportation systems and not use the ones provided to you by this communist government.

Seriously seems a little silly that you are that brainwashed and paranoid about President Obama. While I am pretty sure he doesn't have a clue what his father's views would be today - I sure he know what his Grandfather fought for in WWII and his Grandmother help build as well. It's OK to be scared by the unknown, until you actually do some research and thinking on your own and then you might see that he is actually trying to make this a better country and that he is not the big bad buggy man that you make him out to be.

So stop the Hatitude - come on over and vote for Obama we won't tell your friends. It's OK

Layton, I absolutely replied to your question: I said Romney wasn't a commie. I would vote for Bo, the dog before I'd support Obama. Take time and read his own words in his own books, people-- he has as his mentors socialists and communists, and is proud of it.

I have one vote, so will cast it for anybody who has a chance to win against him.... Whether Romney wins is out of my hands.

Self-educated voter-- you are ignorant of the man you are supporting. Do your own homework. He very much understands the views and dreams he inherited from his father. They are in his own words.

Seeking Sanity-- keep seeking, my friend-- yours will hopefully appear one day. Until then, why don't you color a nice picture for all of us and tell the nurse it's time for your meds.

Marla is raising a child - that should scare the crap out of most of us. She thinks the Commie's are coming. This beautiful little child is going to grow up with the same distorted, paranoid views as his mother.

deafening silence to your post and questions, Keck.

Excellent post.

Correction, Kim-- I am raising nine children.....

Be very afraid-- LOL

Turn off your iPod and try reading a book....try "Dreams From My Father." Try learning anything about what you're supporting. Try being educated about what you profess to believe. It won't hurt....promise.

LOL! Obama is a Communist?!?!?!? He is a very authoritarian right winger by his actions. He is not even a Democrat.

Go here and see how he is ranked by his actions. The Political Compass.org

Btw I'm to the left of Jill Stein.

read obamas books....find out who frank marshal davis is.

obama leans toward communist ideals....everyone can read it for themselves.

we are living in 'obamas america'.....one day we will get rid of the obama regime all we have to do is vote in 49 days.

...then we can get our country back....this can be our america again.

Curious, too, how nobody seems to be interested in talking about Obama's "hot mic" slip-up earlier this year....telling Medvedev secretly he has more "flexibility" after the election....asking for space. Kinda creepy.

Keck-- there are some here who are not sheep.... Keep up the message.

Marla and Keck, next thing the two of you are going to start with the birth certificate statements. Good Lord! All the CRAP your spewing is the very same you spewed 4 years ago. It was BS then and it's BS now.

Romney says 47% are on some kind of assistance. He also says 12 million jobs by 4 years.

thats a lot of Ramen noodles 47% will have to live on by 2016

Marla, if Obama really were a communist, you wouldn't own your own tooth brush, let alone your own house.

Maybe you mean "socialist", because Obama has nationalized all the important institutions -- the banks, the airlines, the supermarkets, the mining and timber industries. I don't know if I'd blame Obama for all that. After all, Benjamin Franklin was our first Postmaster General. You know the postal service -- that big, government-run monopoly?

But -- "socialist". Yes, that must be what you mean.

Marla - Nine children! I am afraid - for them. By the way, I don't have and iPod and I have read Obama's book. So much for you stupid assumptions. Robert Maxwell above is correct so perhaps you should pay attention to what he said. Read some current books. Being a Communist is not the same thing as being a Socialist. But of course you and your little buddy Keck knew that, right? Calling someone a Communist is a little outdated.

Robert, it is silly for you to assume that "if" he were this, then "I" wouldn't have that. Although he's made a terrific grab for power....he isn't quite that amazing to have enacted such a shift in such a short time...despite the ignorance of his entitled sycophants.

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Romney says 47% are on some kind of assistance. He also says 12 million jobs by 4 years.

thats a lot of Ramen noodles 47% will have to live on by 2016

Yeah, what's Obama's plan? (((crickets)))

His plan was even absent from the Democratic Convention!!

Nothing about 5 trillion added to the debt, 23 million now unemployed, etc etc.

Just a bunch more hopey changey BS.

If Clinton wasn't there, it would have been a real snoozefest!!

keck.......

You have rarely (maybe never) sounded so forlorn. Perhaps it is because only those, who so admire a defeated Nazi as to choose him for his avatar, are still so fanatically obsessed with the "communist menace".

Don't be such an anachronism. Are you not aware that one of our largest trading partners (China) is a communist nation and they seem to be doing quite well fiscally. Really, you would do better with the "Obama is an Islamic terrorist" ruse.

Perhaps when you realize that what makes this country great isn't an economic system (i.e. capitalism, socialism, communism, etc.) but a political system (democracy), you will comprehend that our nation is strong and remains defiant to your insidious forces of fascism. But then, you are keck. So, that's not likely.

Truth always bears repeating:

Benito Mussolini Quote....
"il corporativismo è la pietra angolare dello Stato fascista, anzi lo Stato fascista o è corporativo o non è fascista"
Translation:
"corporatism is the corner stone of the Fascist nation, or better still, the Fascist nation is corporative or it is not fascist".....EndQuote

Franklin Delano Roosevelt Quote....."The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. " .....EndQuote

Theodore Roosevelt Quote......The great corporations which we have grown to speak of rather loosely as trusts are the creatures of the State, and the State not only has the right to control them, but it is duty bound to control them wherever the need of such control is shown......EndQuote

Thomas Jefferson Quote.....I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country......EndQuote

Our government is the only effective non-violent counter to corporate fascism. That is why you folks wish to make it (government) weaker.

BTW---You are the perfect provocation for the fascist warnings from the past. Thanks for that.

Obama does not seem to understand the difference between being elected President and being made King.

Laker Steve-- and what cracked me up the most, as the Democrats like to decry the "War on Women," is they have as their keynote speaker the greatest lothario of modern political history. Gennifer Flowers, Juanita Broderick, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky..... The guy couldn't keep his pants on if he tried-- and THIS is the guy they want to be the face of the "women friendly" Democrat party?? Hell, I'd be surprised if he hadn't made a pass at Fluke while he was there, too.... Assuming she could afford birth control. *eye roll*

I still have to laugh at Monica's unofficial title ... Presidential Knob Polisher ! But the "Polishee" who declared under oath he "did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky" ... doesn't consider a blow job as "having sex". LOL ! Tell that to Monica's blue dress !

The only reason Bill Clinton was worth a damn as President was because a Republican Congress worked with him to have a budget and worked to end welfare dependency. But "BJ Willie" is their hero !!

Marla - as I always say, seekig sanity in the Republican party but gutter trash like you prove daily none exists.

Obama/Biden 2012

And as I always say.....I love how you "like" your own posts....LOL

I am fairly liberal and my objection with Obama is that he has surrounded himself with big bankers. I find it amazing this man is called a communist. Even his health care plan left thieving insurance companies running medicine and stealing people blind. Even though he is a disappointment, Romney makes Obama look great.

The 47% may get what they wish for.

You know, you have to look closely at what that 47% number really means. Before Bush implemented his tax cuts in 2001 and 2003, the number was 30%. After Bush tax cuts, the number jumped to 47%. Who was responsible for the people who don't pay taxes? Democrats? I don't think so!

In fact, Republicans, from 2001 to 2004, were responsible for exactly what they accuse Democrats of - buying votes!

Abortion has been legal since 1973,Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113. I don't care what a women does with her body but I do care who pays for it.

I get your sarcasm, MireV03, but I think it's clearly over the heads of your average neo-con...