Friction mounts as Israel asks that U.S. give Iran an ultimatum; a tricky position for Obama, whose foreign policy has been lauded. NBC's Andrea Mitchell and CNBC's John Harwood report.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sought Sunday to assume a more neutral posture toward the American presidential election, distancing himself from Mitt Romney's suggestion that President Barack Obama has thrown Israel "under the bus."
The Israeli prime minister, appearing Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," downplayed longstanding indications of pressure between himself and Obama and urged more bipartisanship from Americans in support of the Jewish state. Netanyahu told moderator David Gregory that his primary concern was preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons, not influencing the outcome of the U.S. presidential election.
To that end, Netanyahu said that Romney's accusation about Obama having essentially abandoned Israel on the world stage was "simply not the case and simply not my position."
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu discusses violence against Americans in the Middle East with NBC's David Gregory.
"There's no bus, and we're not going to get into that discussion," Netanyahu said of Romney's charge, which the GOP presidential nominee first made in May of 2011 following a speech by the president calling on Israel to return to pre-1967 border lines as part of peace negotiations with Palestinians.
Romney has used Israel to distinguish himself most sharply from Obama in the arena of foreign policy. The Republican nominee visited Israel during a stop on his trip abroad this summer, and is generally seen as more sympathetic to Israel's hawkish stance toward Iran.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during his press conference with the Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi at the Prime Minister's office in Jerusalem, Israel, on 02 February 2010.
Moreover, the relationship between Obama and Netanyahu is generally regarded as tense, a charge which the Israeli prime minister rejected.
"I'm always pleased and happy to have a conversation with President Obama," said Netanyahu, downplaying reports that Obama had allegedly sought to avoid meeting with the prime minister during the upcoming U.N. General Assembly in New York. "We've had our discussions; our schedules on this visit didn't work out … but we continue to be in close consultations."
David Gregory analyzes a special hour of Meet the Press featuring interviews with US Ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice; and Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.
For all of Netanyahu's pleas, though, he has become a central figure in the U.S. presidential election. Romney seized upon the alleged snub during a fundraiser in New York on Friday.
"I thought the president's decision not to meet with Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu was an extraordinary confusing and troubling decision," said Romney, whose relationship with Netanyahu dates back to their shared days at Boston Consulting Group. "I don't know what the president is trying to send to the world in terms of a message but it does send a message. It sends a message not just to Israel but to the other nations throughout the Middle East."
A Meet the Press roundtable discusses recent upheaval in the Middle East and how the United States intends to respond.
Netanyahu himself argued his agitations toward Iran weren't meant to coincide with the American election.
"What's guiding my statements is not the American political calendar but the Iranian nuclear calendar," he said. "It's really not a partisan political issue."
The political fighting over Israel plays out against a broader backdrop in which Iran is reportedly advancing in its development of a nuclear weapon; the U.S. also suffered four casualties — including Ambassador Christopher Stevens — this week in Libya after protesters stormed a U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi. Other embassies suffered turmoil, and the State Department on Saturday ordered family and non-emergency personnel evacuated from posts in Sudan and Tunisia.
Those developments have injected foreign policy into the center of the U.S. presidential election as Obama tries to quell protests against American embassies related to an amateur video mocking Islam. After the attack in Benghazi, Romney controversially pounced and suggested the administration's condemnation of the video was tantamount to "an apology for America’s values."
Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, also appearing Sunday on "Meet the Press," termed that accusation a "vacuous charge of weakness."
"I think the American people welcome strong, steady unified leadership — bipartisan in times of challenge," she said.


May cooler heads prevail!
We have already witnessed where "knee-jerk" foreign policy lands us...
That is going to leave a mark!
Hopefully, it will put the POUTRAGE to rest!
How many times do we have to witness Romney being thrown under the bus ?
I almost feel sorry for the stiff .
But I don't .
Netyanyahu is trying to kill Iranian bird with American gun.
You did say "almost"! Hahahahaha!
Gregory is acting like an ass. When he doesn't like the answers, he re-asks them. Here's the point: Obama HAS NOT thrown Netanyahu under the bus.
Look, the current positions have Israel looking like a pitbull on a leash held by the United States. If the U.S. let's go, Iran would be toast. If the U.S. joins in, Iran would be toast.
This is exactly the SMART play on Iran. It is obvious to anyone paying attention that Netanyahu understands that the relationship portrayed by the two of them is the most effective... with Obama indicating "Look, I can't hold this guy back much longer!"
And Romney plays his simple games without one ounce of understanding of "strategy"... or if he does understand, even worse, he's putting politics above the appearance of unity.
Translated: Israel will need a partner after November, and Mitt is not going to be it.
What else is new?
MTP really needs to get rid of old Gotcha Gregory!
The guy isn't fit to fill Tim Russert's seat!
Never has been... never will be!
Netnayahoo is a "yahoo" and a bully, just like his buddy Romney. We DO NOT WANT TO KILL OUR CHILDREN, JUST TO "PLEASE" THIS BULLY. HE IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN all the other Middle East countries combined.
If you want a WAR, GO AND DO IT YOURSELF. Ask Mitt ROmney for the help of his 5 children. They can be on a "Mission from God"helping YOU. pfft!
Obama for PEACE!!!!
If Israel wants peace it needs to elect someone that has a plan for peace with the Palestinians. When Israel can settle its problems with them, a lot of their problems will go away. It won't be easy as both sides will have to give up more than they want. However, it must be done for both sides sake.
A good relationship with the Palestinians is a win-win for Israel. Unfortunately, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is not that person.
Gregory Is a little lame when it comes to holding these folks accountable, and bringing the truth out in his interviews. I won't say he's always bad, but sometimes he really pisses me off, especially when talking to a right wing nut.
Fiesty,
Nice AVATAR. Phine would have liked it. :)
You have to admit, it does look like Obama has distanced himself from Israel. He went to Egypt and did not meet with Israel. The reason for my comment is that he said Egypt is not our ally nor our enemy, while Israel has been our ally.
Why has he distanced himself?
Bibi is a dangerous man but he's not stupid. he knows it is unlikely that Romney will ever be president and he must keep what appears to be a solid relationship with president Obama.
Whatever it means on the world stage, there is something we need to know and hopefully understand. That is, Iran has no nukes and Israel has many.
While some in Iran may be willing to go on suicide missions for "the cause", most do not wish to perish in a mushroom cloud.
Also, and most important to know, the Iranian people have shown many times they are into being more westernized. This was again made clear in a recent demonstartion during which some Iranians were killed by their government.
I think it best we do not make some preemptive move as we have done in Iraq.
Bibi's view is that if the U.S. doesn't jump when Israel says it should jump, then the U.S. is not a true friend. He's brought this issue up before, and I doubt the Obama administration is unaware of what's going on in Iran. But Americans have heard this nuclear saber rattling in the past, which is the reason we ostensibly went to war in Iraq...because Hussein had purchased yellowcake in Niger and was close to producing a nuclear weapon.
It's no coincidence that Bibi is pushing his agenda during election season. I'm pleased that we have a president who's unwilling to mobilize the troops and pack the bombs when somebody gets skeered.
America gotta back that jew man and $mitt Robmey and ol lyan ryan too. Theys doing the lords work!
After what Mitt Romney did in Israel, he needs to be cautious. We can't afford to rage all the region. Israel has a beef with them, not us.
The President is being smart by avoiding him. He is like the in-law that wants to borrow money from us to pay his home, when we know that he WILL NEVER PAY US BACK!!!!
Netanyahu's, got slapped for panhandling his war with IRAN to the GOP now he knows that Obama is going to win now he back's down. This guy is a nut the US public does not want your stinking war.
Nettie is such a jerk. He wants the U.S. to eternally spill blood for his country, while his country sacrifices minimally for it. I can't stand the jerk. He always has that smug look of an evil used car salesman on his face.
Bibi has major opposition in Israel and he has been under fire in Israel for getting into USA politics.
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Seems that the Right Wing all over the world needs to use more common sense, less emotion, and try some reality and facts out for a change. (Gossip gets them in trouble every time!)
How many times is Mitt Romney going to have to backtrack on comments he make about international situations. We have the olympics, and more recently the killing of the U.S. Ambassador to Libya.
The man is not ready to lead. It''s going to be a oolossal train wreck.
Feisty:
He sounds sometimes as if he wants to imitate Tim Russet. Poor fellow! He is nothing like Tim.
yosolo -- I believe the definition for insanity is doing or saying the same thing and getting the same results. A word to the wise.
A new day, a new Conspirancy theory from our "Muslim loving" President. What will you post tomorrow?
Netanyahu's advisers are telling him that Romney is highly unlikely to win ---- considered in Isreal to be about a 1-in-20 chance --- and that once again he has screwed the pooch by pissing off Obama.
One option that may soon come to pass is a cutoff of military and economic aid to Egypt. If this happens the Camp David Accords require a similar cut to Israel's foreign and military aid. This would instantly devastate Israel's economy which is almost 30% dependent on US assistance in one form or another --- military aid, ecopnomic air, special discounts, free stuff, etc.
At this point Baby Netster is acting 180 degrees against Israel's best interests. Remember, he is the guy who calls Obama a "dumb schwartzer" --- equivalent to the n-word.
Thew shortest book in the world ---- "A List of Times Israel Stood Up With The USA". Stupid book --- no writing, only blank pages.
Romney/Ryan is in full scale desperation mode. Ryan is simultaneously fighting to keep his seat, wonder why? He sees the writing on the wall, they're toast.
Apparently relying on old white guys to win an election doesn't add up. Oh those darn Math issues again.
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Obama is the blame for the unrest in the Middle East? The Middle East has been a powder keg since the birth of the modern Isreal State. Netanyahu has already played his card, he has not so subtley suggested that Isreal is more vulnerable under Obama than it would be under Romney, this is a dispicable example of the reptilian nature of Isreal's conservatives. From the attacks on U.S. Naval vessels, to the Pollard spy incident, and now with Netanyahu interjecting Isreal's policy goals into the American Presidential campaign, the Isrealis have shown a very untrustwothiness in their relationship with us.
Liberals don't understand Netanyahu, nor do they care to. Netanyahu has to play the middle because Israel is dependent upon the strength of the US to back them up. He knows that US elections can turn a tide, or not. If you notice, he also said nothing negative of Romney... that's politics. While the liberals don't care what they say about Romney, world leaders know that Romney might be the next POTUS, so they don't rock the apple cart. Of course Netanyahu will not say anything negative about Obama due to the same reason. It's not an endorsement like the liberals so strongly misinterpret.
In other words: Netanyahu knows that Romney is loosing, and it is in his best interests to make sure that he is on the same page as the President of the United States.
jimmy: as much as I enjoy the "teabaggers" being totally intimidated by Feisty, stalking just makes you look, well, crazy. Feisty has no need to acquiesce to someone as pathetic as you.
If YOU have something to say about the strike, that is your right. This thread is about the Israeli Prime Minister.
Brianb: you DO know that re regging is against the rules...why do you keep doing it?
Brian, find a job yet? Maybe you could get a job as a re-reg...you seem to be good at that.
Tick tock, freeloader...tick tock...
Hello folks, Netsayahoo will do anything to start WWIII. The guy actually believes in armageddon and thinks he's the one to deliver it. If Israel wants to go to war, that is their call but they can do it alone and suffer the consequences for their actions!
USS Liberty was attacked in international waters by Israeli forces on June 8, 1967, killing 34 Americans and wounding another 174. When Israel can't get the U.S. to do its bidding in attacking the countries they want attacked they perpetrate covert military attacks against the U.S.
General Dempsey, Chairman of America’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, the man who flew to Tel Aviv and informed Netanyahu that America wanted no part of his scheming against Iran was the subject of an assassination attempt in Afghanistan.This wasn’t an act of terrorism or Taliban militants. It was a mob hit by Israel’s Mosaad against someone who failed to kiss the feet of Netanyahu. His response was to unleash killers, not a fact for the public but a fact just the same, one the American military knows very well. Netsayahoo is pathologically insane.
Israel is an evil entity and must be kept at arms length as they will try and lead us into WWIII.
Do you think it could be to be seen as a neutral mediator to the Egyptian public? Making it easier for a weak government to continue to support the 1973 peace agreement, which is the cornerstone for Israeli security? Ya whoo knows on which side the bread is buttered and Mitt is not only stale but a real threat to Israel continued existence. If Egypt goes to war all the Arab nations will join as in the 1972 war except this time Iran will join, so we will be hip deep in a conventional war know body can win. Israel could be forced to use it's nukes. Beginning of China's emergence as the only superpower. So how good is your manderin?
It is pretty well-known that both Gregory and the red-headed gal (whose name escapes me at the moment) are both rabid right wing Republicans under a thin veneer of civility. This came up a lot during McCain's campaign and when Gregory was selected to replace Russert.
@Mickey,NY
Brian will not be able to find a job under 0bama. Obama will just have him go on welfare and suck the government tit. That way the government can controll what he does.
You can say that again. What we have witnessed this week is what happens when the hot-headed right-wing extremist Christians, Jews, and Muslims try to take charge. Fear, violence, retaliation are their motto, and they are more than willing to take everyone down with them.
Kudos to Obama for staying the course. I can't help but believe that if Romney were in charge, he and Netanyahu would have been skipping hand-in-hand pressing red 'nuke' buttons aimed at Iran and other Muslim countries. That isn't leadership, that is warmongering, and I dare say nine-tenths of the world citizens are not in the mood to suffer the fools of the radical one-tenth right-wing extremist freaks.
oops, typo loosing should be losing, but you get the drift.
Hi, Mickey!
[That way the government can controll what he does.]
Nahh...Brian already thinks the Government has planted a microchip in his empty head...
Oh, and he is already suckling at the Government teat...seems he's holding out for a "management position" while on the dole.
Brian's a hypocrite.
Oh, but they do. He is a right-wing war mongering radical in charge of Israel. When are the Israeli's going to kick his ass out of office and elect a PM actually interested in peace?
OK, For the record for all you insolent liberals that think I have re-regged. My original account Brianb (numbers) was closed due to an e-mail problem. Someone hacked into my hotmail account and took it over. Since I never used that e-mail account I had no e-mail backups to prove the account. The password was changed so I could not use the account. The personal information was changed so I could not reinstate the account. I wrote to MSN and they cleared this account. So stop already with the re-reg comments. Pass it along to the other liberals so they will understand it. This is a legal re-reg and I have been given the clearance to have it because of the loss of the other account. Got it straight now?
RedDev said: Oh, but they do. He is a right-wing war mongering radical in charge of Israel. When are the Israeli's going to kick his ass out of office and elect a PM actually interested in peace?
Why would you be concerned about the politics of another country? Oh... I know... it's because if Israel defends herself it will effect you in oh so many ways.
Tell me RedDev... if Netanyahu is a war monger, how come he's showing restraint in attacking Iran? Iran is in violation of many resolutions... Israel would be acting in self defense. I mean, do you trust Iran with nuclear weapons? Do you think once they obtain them, they are not going to use them against western interests or Israel? You must be under the belief that Iran is a country of peace because they are Muslim... after all we know how peaceful Muslims are....
You my dear are a bold faced LIAR:
You were banned and have now re-regged for the FIFTH time!
See ya sucker!
Hey there NDD...how's your Sunday coming along?
No one cares! Brian.
When you leave God and Israel out of your DNC platform, then get booed and heckled, not once but THREE times for trying to install it, you're out!
Factor in Israel's general reaction was well expressed by Netanyahu the past few days, following Dempsey's statements: “You are more concerned to stop Israel than to avert an Iranian bomb”.
There's no way the Islamic Muslim loving president will get 78% of the Jewish vote like he did in 2008.
Bibi and the Jews know who has their best interests at heart...and it's NOT Obama.
Very well, Mickey! Took the dog out for a long walk and dodged the farm trucks along the way. Harvest in full swing here.
How's it going by you?
Brian,
You are on your 4th account and were banned after you used the first 2 in the same day … after you made the very same comment you just made.
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Sally banned you (Comment #1.150)
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/10/13786194-romney-tries-to-make-hay-of-chicago-teachers-strike?last=1347492153&threadId=3562242&sp=0&pc=25#c69934124
[This is a legal re-reg and I have been given the clearance...]
Sure you have Brian...
"We have clearance Clarence..."
"What's our vector Victor?"
RedDev said: You can say that again. What we have witnessed this week is what happens when the hot-headed right-wing extremist Christians, Jews, and Muslims try to take charge. Fear, violence, retaliation are their motto, and they are more than willing to take everyone down with them.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.... Do you run a ride called twist-o-rama? Where is all the violence happening and by whom? I haven't heard of a single christian or jew burning American flags, or burning Obama in effigy. I haven't heard of one Christian or Jew gunning down American diplomats, or soldiers... Do you actually watch the news? Or are you artfully trying to spin it to blame right minded people... yes, I have that correct... right minded people.... because your version is completely wrong.
Are you under the impression you can say anything and people will follow along in sing song fashion praising you for your keen insight? Liberals.... over the top and on the back side of events... sheeesh!
Hiya Mick!
Just like the J-O-B he was supposed to start last week...
This idiot is giving Snookie-Joe a run for her money when it comes to being truthfully challenged!
[Took the dog out for a long walk and dodged the farm trucks along the way. Harvest in full swing here. How's it going by you?]
Sounds like a great start for you! I'm good...did my long run for the week this morning, so I'm high as a kite at the moment...
Harvest in full swing here too...I'm almost done...tomatoes were awesome this year, as were the squash and zukes. I'll provide lettuce till mid Cotober, I think.
[This idiot is giving Snookie-Joe a run for her money when it comes to being truthfully challenged!]
Maybe Harley Skank and Brian will hook up... "LOL"
@TrustVerify,
Thanks for mentioning the USS Liberty. I had friends on that ship. We need not to forget.
Shady G ... from your post.
He said they told the diplomats that the security situation wasn't good for international business.
"The situation is frightening, it scares us," Mabrouk said they told the U.S. officials. He did not say how they responded.
I can tell you how they responded.....THEY DID NOTHING LIKE ALL DO NOTHING OBAMA ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS.
Just wondering if you were at that meeting... you seem to be so sure that the Libyan official are referring to American interest and not the general interest of the international community, you know, other countries besides the United States like United Kingdom, Germany, France, etc.
Israel loves the GOP WarMongers, we are drowning in debt and the TeaRTards in Congress give the WarHogs from Israel $18.7 Billion a year in foreign aid, this is insane when we have Citizens eating dog food to severe in America. I think Greedy Israel is trying to start World War Three !!!
Congress, Stop all Foreign Aid before we go belly up !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not quite Dennis. You may think you have the facts, but it has been cleared. But I am certain you would be very happy to have me gone for good... Just like every other liberal on this board that loves to stifle free speech, unless you are a liberal.
Tell me Dennis... where did you get all those other Brianb accounts from? Do you work for MSN? Is it you that has people banned from this site? Do you do it because you don't like their ideology? I'll tell you what... If I was trying to hide who I am... don't you think I'd choose a completely different name? I guess logic never prevails, does it?
BrianB - as usual, you leap to unwarranted conclusions, thus their is no reason to spend pointless hours responding to the idiocy you post. That said, I'll spend 30 seconds on this irrational question -
Nope, nor do I trust Israel, India, Pakistan, Russia, and a host of former USSR countries with them.
Netanyahu reminds me of Mitt Romney--they both walk backwards with predictable frequency.
Well, I guess I'm going to have to put the same liberals back on ignore again... they are still talking smack without knowing what they are talking about. Hey dumbfux - what happened to those well wishes you so sincerely sent me about getting a job? I guess the name "snake" is more appropriate for you... wish someone well, and then turn around and bite them in the @$$. Honest? Yeah, you are the epitome of honest.
Brian you crybaby, quit the effing whining already...the only thing of yours that needs stifling is your ignorance and stupidity.
tick tock, freeloader...
RedDev said: Nope, nor do I trust Israel, India, Pakistan, Russia, and a host of former USSR countries with them.
Well, since Israel has had nukes for well over 40 years... do tell me how many times they've even threatened to use them in all that time... How many times has Pakistan threatened India? Hmmmm? Your mistrust of Israel is unwarranted.
Brianb: if you were cleared, you received a message from Tyler or Sally saying you were. You can end this by simply posting that message.
I hope you were and you aren't lying. I like to think that Conservatives, who believe they are the party of God and country, hold truthfulness as a value.
I actually don't care if you post or not. I just wonder how ignoring the rules helps you make your case.
Mickey - Stop trying to provoke me. It's useless. I have you on mental ignore anyway. I don't banter back and forth with fools.
Come on little buddy - show us your papers! lol
Time to man up for a change!
Brian,
In enjoy comments/opinions that are different than mine.
As for your accounts – everything I posted came from Newsvine information that is available to all users if you know how to use the Newsvine software.
I can provide you the exact date (not just the month) that you created each account and your domain name – it is all available to all members.
Brianb, are the TeaReTards Water-boarding you ?????????????
Brianb - at least you can be counted on to continually leap to unwarranted conclusions. Russia has had nukes for well over 50 years, yet we saw them lost complete control over their nuclear inventory. So you see, length of time armed with nukes has nothing to do with trusting or not trusting a country with nuclear weapons.
Let the tag teaming begin. So predictable, and sad to see adults act like children.
"Don't forget the USS Liberty" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jimmy in phiily: You take up your anti union crap downtown with the Carpenters. Tell us about it tomorrow as jinny in philly.
Union and proud for Obama.
thetotas: just asking a legitimate question. I am always curious why people do the things they do!
While I support Israel's right to exist I take great exception to their current leadership inserting himself into our election in an attempt influence an outcome he wants. HE does NOT tell AMERICA when to go to war with ANYONE. That's a decision WE AMERICAN"S make in this COUNTRY. I appreciate the fact that we currently have a president that understands the he is beholden to the American people first!! Just take a minute and read some of the news from Israel and you will understand that their current leadership does NOT have the complete support of the county to go to war with IRAN or screw up the relationship between them and the US.
Sounds like Chicago thuggery is alive and well. Just another "perp walk" brought to you by the Obama administration. Anyone falling for this tripe only exposes their complete misunderstanding of the hideous behavior of our president and this administration.
I would guess the Jewish people are smart enough to recognize a thug / bullying when they see / hear it.
As for the libs that are supporting this two-faced criminal, I do hope that a world war is not on your list of costs necessary to uphold your lunatic view of the world.
[ I have you on mental ignore anyway]
Yeah, key word being MENTAL...right Brian?
You're a nutbag...face it.
Is there really any question that Netanyahu is a warmonger? A majority believe it - including a large majority of Israeli's. Are we to believe the amateurish uninformed views like those of BrianB, or stand up and take notice when even an ex-Israeli official thinks BiBi has gone of his rocker.
Watched Meet the Republican Press with David Gregory this morning. What a farce. Tim Russert is defiitely rolling in his grave. David Gregory is no more a journalist than he is a brain surgeon. It was almost embarrassing to watch. I swear the Republicans are paying him under the tabel - although I don't know why - they could just write him a check and hand it over on-air. It's that obvious.
If you looked at the other Sunday morning programs they all agreed that Romney showed how not ready for prime time or the Presidency he truly is. They all acknowledged how wrong he was to make his statements and that it is clear he made a major political gaffe - just one of his many!
Obama/Biden 2012
No question at all.
jimmy in philly
Feisty probably put you on ignore, so let me help here.
The teachers have every right to strike.
The Mayor has every right to negotiate what the city wants as part of the deal.
The teachers have every right to negotiate their concerns about how they will be measured.
Both have a right to negotiate and are now coming together on terms to form a new, stronger business relationship.
The process was f@#king perfect.
What would have been lame would be a back door law that would pull the rug out from under the unions altogether... like you Tea Party "no one else deserves this country but me" wing-nuts.
You okay with that?
I rather like that we have a president who is so adroit in handling foreign leaders. This is not the first time Netanyahu has tried to publicly goad Obama into making stupid decisions. Remember earlier in the year, when he said the Iranian situation was an 'emergency' and that Israel was going to have to bomb them? Instead of escalating the situation by scrambling to pander to the Jewish vote, as was obviously the intent, Obama just said - also publicly - that nothing had changed in the situation to constitute an emergency , and all the bellicose talk of war was not helpful in the diplomatic activity taking place. Done. Situation defused.
Nice to have a leader in the White House for a change. If we had someone who was more worried about politics than about doing the right thing, we'd already be in a war with Iran. Something to keep in mind when you vote this November.
$Mitt Robmey gonna le Metamyahoo run the mid-east. Man knows how to "outsource" - its a good skill man...
Good Morning all my Liberal and Progressive Friends, and the rest of you teaturds, American Taliban I can only hope this is your worst day, since you and your do nothing Congress has hurt Millions of Americans since coming into congress in 2010 on Jobs Jobs Jobs, you haven't create 1 jobs bill that doesn't have abortion Rhetoric or objects in women's Vagina attached to it.
Once again everytime Whiner Mittens opens his mouth 1 million Independent Voters go and Vote for POTUS Obama
MisterWonderful
Your post is absent anything to respond to, so here's my response...
:P
For the sake of maintaining good relations with the U.S. of course he's going to appear "non-biased". It doesn't mean he actually is. Do the people at nbcnews have any idea how politics works? Not likely.
LMarcT: Great post, I just got pi$$ed at that guy. ☺
I agree Snakebone. Furthermore, if we attack Iran, Israel will suffer any consequence Iran can bring to bear on them, Iran has no forces of any kind that can reach the USA, anything we do to them, they will retaliate by striking at Israel. Netanyahu, better be careful what he wishes for, because if Romney is elected he just might get it, and it is the Israeli people that will suffer the consequences not Americans. In the long run Israel must survive by diplomacy, it will never survive by war with other nations in the middle east, not even if we prosecute the war for them. They are in the middle of the zone, we would bear the cost, they would bear the pain of death and destruction. They must realize who is really looking out for their bests interests, and polls in that country show that the majority of their population believes that it is President Obama, and not the guy that seems anxious to start a war in which they will never be able to walk away from. We can bomb Iran and then leave, they can't, Romney would scare the hell out of me if I lived in Israel.
Keep republicans away from our foreign policy. Period.
I saw the following quotes from an article over at the Obama Diary the other day. I don't know who wrote it but the name "Sully" was mentioned. So it could be that Andrew Sullivan is the author.
It's terrific.
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“What people don’t note enough is both the self-discipline (that we know doesn’t come easily) and the zen-like calm he exudes. Occasionally I ask some sources close to him how he reacted to some piece of news or the other. They almost all say that his range of emotion is about a tenth of the average human being – and that he is as intent on being a good father and husband as being a good president. He is cool not in the pop culture sense, but in the “old soul” sense. This is why so many wavering Americans still like him. In an ocean of drama, he is an island of public calm.
… [W]hen I think of the characteristics I want in a president in turbulent times, this capacity for calm and poise comes pretty high on the list. And that’s why I think this past week was almost as damaging to Romney as the week before. He over-reacted in a petty, political way to a sudden, murky series of events that demanded restraint and calm and fact-gathering. Then he doubled down on his attempt to politicize it. This was talk-radio performance, not presidential behavior.”
I think that throughout the last 4 years, we’ve witnessed this extraordinary POTUS weather tragedy after tragedy, crisis after crisis, setback after setback. But still, even in the midst of all this harsh reality the world brings to his doorstep, he is still the most resolute, most hopeful and most productive PEOPLE’s PRESIDENT. He is beloved by so many because he has touched us all, slowly, over time – day after day, event upon event, promise after promise. He buoys his supporters and confounds his critics. He WINS.
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In other words, he is true to who he is and doesn't waste a moment's breath trying to please the pundits or inside the beltway anybody.
That's leadership. Strong resolute leadership. None of the "pundits" have to worry about the country's future. It is not in their hands as they so readily demonstrate. They are into negativity and ratings, which has nothing to do with leadership and America's future.
America, thank goodness, sees the difference.
We are fortunate as a nation that he wants to be our president. He has made us a better nation. A more informed nation. A more caring nation. A more prouder nation.
Barack Obama/Joe Biden. 2012. Please don't let up. We're almost there.
Funny you never mentioned the kids with what ... their 50% graduation rate?
Funny that you never mentioned the tax payers whose dollars are funnelled by the teacher unions to the politicians that give the teachers the absurd and unsustainable salaries / pensions of the teachers that are bankrupting the cities.
Perfect process?
Yeah ... for the unions and politicians.
Just chiming in to say good morning and great posts. Feisty, nice job on showing Brian his own facts!!! You'd think if you were going to re-reg that many times you'd change your name to something different! Not the sharpest tack on the board there!
My sentiments regarding the topic were summed up beautifully by Pat, above ....
Happy Sunday all ... off to watch a little football with the fam . .. .
Harley Chic...
Yep, Obama love Muslims so much that he has wiped out most all of the al Qaeda leadership in his continued assault on terrorism... which happens to be more than that of the Republican leadership! Bush didn't do anything on the 6 security briefings that documented bin laden as being a legitimate threat, Bush kissed and bowed to the Saudi king and did a sword dance, Let bin Laden family flee the US without having to answer any questions, they let Osama go in Tora Bora and then told the American people that he doesn't know where OBL is or gives (the murderer of thousands of Americans) much thought these days and so on...
If anyone loves the terrorists it would appear to be the Republicans who did absolutely NOTHING to either prevent the attack or bring to justice those who attacked us and if you think it's the Republicans who have kept us safe, then you are an even bigger idiot than I gave you credit for being!!!!!!!!
Netanyahu is a pathological liar, a fraud, and a thief. He has been repeatedly investigated for an assortment of crimes in Israel, and foreign leaders have found he will lie to their faces at the least opportunity until he has become a bad joke among Western nations. How can anyone assign the slightest credibility to this crook?
Only a Republican would find Netanyahu appealing: a rat always knows when he's in with weasels, you know.
netanyahu is not prime minister material, he is a pathetic working example of how israel has become to draw MORE money out of American's pockets. This despicable person is using KingGeorge TheVacuumBrained tactics about WMDs in iran to get US in Yet Another middle east war for israel's and the jew's profit and convenience which they can secure for themselves. No more of our Fine Young Men, which they call "Goys" from their evil sense of Humor; You israelis must put your "darling Jasons" in harm's way instead of America's Fine Young Men and Women to protect your American Paid For gas pipeline running through afghan to sell gas to india.
Hey Alan, Prez O KNOWS that meeting with the yaho will mean more money for you jews at OUR espense.
I have an idea for Israel: Perhaps Israel should allow international nuclear inspections of their own nuclear facilities so that all of their whining about Iran's nuclear power program won't seem so hypocritical?
When Israel keeps their own nuclear program under complete secrecy all that it does is encourage neighboring nations to do so too!
Our forefathers made some terrible decisions about Iran that put oil company profits far ahead of the average Iranian citizen's lives, and now we have to lie in that bed.
Unless perhaps, we can admit that the decisions that our forefathers made about the average Iranian's lives were very, very wrong and then we could move toward healing the wrongs of our past.
And the same thing goes for Israel and their treatment of their Palestinian Arab citizens too, from whom radical Jews stole that country in the first place!
PALADIN
you ask a rhetorical question, so i will ask you one in return:
when Netanyahu decided to become an obstructionist before our President was even inaugurated, just as McConnell and Company decided to do on the very night of the inauguration, because he is every bit as much of a bigot as our current Plutocrat party members are, just WHO created the "distance?"
Netanyahu + Romney = WWIII
{the Republican party is dead. long live the Republican party.}
You know what?...the Israelis and Iranians will never actually do anything. It's all talk on the part of the politicians. The Israeli and Iranian politicians need each other to properly keep their people uneasy, agitated, and easy to manipulate.
GOP all over fox saying its obamas fault he needs to lead?
Makes me sick to use this as a distraction from the fact these pathetic parties can't even lead their own country.
Get rid of these parties and vote for representatives.
McCain isn't a representative of the American people he represents the republican party!
Obama isn't a representative of the American people he represents the democrat party!
Both parties blame each other for doing the exact same things over and over again. I think they do it on purpose!
Party of one if u ask me
The corporate parties of these united states.
Gee, Romney now looks like a kiss Azz, is this really what America needs he will Flip at the drop of a hat, it's all about what he thinks people want to hear, this clown does not have a pair in his magic underwear.
Hey Bee Bee I Hate To Break The News To You But Even If Romney Wins You Are Not Getting America Drawn Into Another Not War With Iran.....We've Had Enough Of Wall Streets Not War Nonsense For Fun & Profit From The Obomination....Already!
Just A Week Ago Odumba & Billary Were All Fired Up To Jump Iran's Bones And The American People Expressed In Part Through The Chairman Of The Joint Chief Of Staff Shut That Stupid Idea Down! Remember ....General Dempsey Doesn't Want To Be Complicit In War With Iran?
So Mr. Netanyahu You Have The "Right & Means" To Go It Alone and If Iran Is Stupid Enough To Attack America Because Of Your Actions Then And Only Then We Will Clean Iran's Clock!
Good Luck And Wish You All The Best! Hopefully Afterwards We Won't Have Any More Middle Eastern Problems......
America..... If You Want To Understand What This Has REALLY Been All About Watch......
This Democracy Now Story .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&feature=g-all-f
This New PBS Documentary....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I
Once Again America....None Of These Wall Street Incumbents Liars Work For US So Refuse To Re-Elect ANY OF THEM No Matter How Much These Wall Street Monsters Offer US Cow Patty Candy!
Especially Not That Nobel Peace Prize Hypocritical Mass Murdering Back Door Specialist Obama!
Let US Send Obama Bush & Cheney To The Hague For Not War Crimes / Crimes Against Humanity In 2013 And Start Working On Undoing The Damage Wall Streets Terrorists Have Done To US By Beginning Their Prosecutions!
In the map with countries having protests over the film, NBC appears to have given the Sinai peninsula to Israel, They cut Egypt's border at the Suez canal.
All the war mongers in the republican party will support an attack on Iran and more efforts to make the US trying to police the World. I think we can see how well we can police the Middle East and create more hate for us. I hope we will stay out of this. We didn't stop China , Russia, France, England etc. from getting nuclear weapons why give Iran an excuse to use them if they have them or develop them?????? don't listen to McPain the radical war crazed tea party extremist republicans!
Thank you for setting the record straight, Bibi.
Romney, that shameless, lying panderer, has proven again that he will say anything to get elected... ANYTHING. Mitt Romney is the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing.
In fifty-one days, we will finally be able to shut him down and shut him up, for good.
Netanyahu calls for America to draw a red line in the sand and dare Iran to cross it. Something that he himself has not done. He wants more Americans to die for Israel's self interest.
Soon Won't Matter Either Way kaybeetoys.... Obama Is Starting The Hot Part Of WWIII To Insure His Re-Election And You & Yours Be Right In The Middle Of It....Russian / China / Pakistan / Syria / Libya / Egypt / Sudan / Etc etc etc......Against Israel Britain & US!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9545597/Armada-of-British-naval-power-massing-in-the-Gulf-as-Israel-prepares-an-Iran-strike.html
The King Bee Obama Might Survive.....BUT YOU AND YOURS WON'T!
So You Really Need To Stop Drinking The Obominations Flavor-Aid And Start Thinking For Yourself!
Once The Nukes Start Flying We All Have About 30 Minutes To Live.....I Hope The Vines Are Up During That Time So That I can Say...I TOLD YOU SO!
PLEASE REMEMBER THEN....THAT YOU SUPPORTED....THE DEVIL'S MINION & HIS DEEDS!
We Can Only Pray Someone Is Up Stairs Actually Keeping Accounts!
Pat Boston MA. "Keep republicans away from our foreign policy. Period."
Thanks for the laugh.
I did an analysis of American war deaths over the last 100 years recently, during which time each Party controlled the Presidency about equally - The results?
More than 96% of American war deaths during that time came under Democratic Presidents. Perhaps Republicans just have more realistic policies that are able to PREVENT wars, while the appeasement attitude of Democratic Presidents leads to far more cost in blood and treasure.
Lest anyone mistake my thanks to Netanyahu, please be aware I agree with Sailcat.
Netanyahu is a re-reg himself! LOL
Also know that I fully support the Jewish people... and believe that the majority of them want peace.
Whoa! Wait a minute, MUW...I thought you conservatives (or whatever you call yourselves) were calling Obama an apologist and an appeaser...so which is it? Is he a war monger now?
I think you need to come down off whatever it is you're high on before you comment again.
...and be careful, that stuff is addictive. It'll rot your brain.
kaybeetoys.....I Am Nether a "NWO Liberal Nor A NEO Conservative" For I Realize Both Are Part Of The Same One Party And Controlled By Wall Street!
Psst Your Petty Stupid Belittlement Only Prove Your Ignorance......
As My Grandmother Taught Me I Judge By Only The Facts, What Appears To Be The Motive And To Refuse To Listen To Their Repeated Lies!
Judge Them Not By What They Say But By What They Do And Obama=Bush!
Again I Refuse To Reward a Wall Street Sponsored LIAR & Mass Murderer With Re-Election and Once Again If You Judge The Obomination By What He Has Done i.e Passed Indefinite Detention and Assassination Of American's WITHOUT TRIAL Obama Is The Devil's Own Incarnate!
Don't Believe? Watch Back Door Barry Refuse To Deny His Presidential Kill List!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrRuNOaNYME
Again At Want Point Do You Understand Bailout Barry Is Willing To Kill and / or Destroy ANY AND ALL OF US To Get Re-Elected?
As George Said...."The object of terrorism is terrorism. The object of oppression is oppression. The object of torture is torture. The object of murder is murder. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~ George Orwell, 1984
So Did You Watch PBS? Hahaha Nope It Hurts Too Much!
Well For The Rest Of Us Here's The Who What & Why Of These Wall Street Terrorist Plans!
Watch This Democracy Now Story .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&feature=g-all-f
Then This New PBS Documentary....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I
And Please Ignore True Believer Obamans Like kaybeetoys Since They're Afraid Of Facing The Truth!
MUW; so Obama has detained US citizens without reason, you better go back and check Bush's record and who was it that was willing to release some of the Guantamano but the opposition party objected. I'm not saying I'll vote for Obama for re-election but I sure ain't voting for Romney/Ryan either. Ryan needs to sign up for Army or Marine Corps for about 8 years and be willing to serve on frontlines in Afghanistan before he becomes US VP or President, and Romney needs to tell his sons to do their honorable duty and sign up for military service also. I can just see it now, they'll authorize invasion of either Syria, or Iran within 30 days of taking office thus putting more Guardsmen/women and Reserve men/women in harms way.
Ed.... POMPUS Obama Has Back Door Lied His Way Into The Power To Indefinitely Detained And Assassinated AMERICA CITIZENS Bush Detained Foreigners On A Battle Field...See The Difference?
http://www.fox19.com/story/16336829/reality-check-it-was-the-obama-administration-that-demanded-power-to-detain-us-citizens-indefinately-under-ndaa
Bush = Obama = Obama / Romney It Makes No Difference At All.....This Is All About Starting Another Not War For Fun Profit & Re-Election If Possible!
An armada of US and British naval power is massing in the Persian Gulf in the belief that Israel is considering a pre-emptive strike against Iran’s covert nuclear weapons programme.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9545597/Armada-of-British-naval-power-massing-in-the-Gulf-as-Israel-prepares-an-Iran-strike.html
According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-inside-story-of-us-envoys-assassination-8135797.html
Of Course The American Dinosaur Media Doesn't DARE Cover This Story....Well TGFTI...And Here Is Some More....
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/01/us-usa-syria-obama-order-idUSBRE8701OK20120801
Obama inks 'secret order' to aid Syria rebels ... Syria : Obama approved covert CIA support for al Qaeda Rebels....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXTaRVf0BuU
Libyans See al Qaeda Hand in Embassy Attack
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444517304577653680320732176.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Pro-al Qaeda group seen behind deadly Benghazi attack
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-09-12/africa/world_africa_libya-attack-jihadists_1_qaeda-al-zawahiri-al-libi
America.... Want To See & Hear The Real Truth? Watch This......
Democracy Now Story .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&feature=g-all-f
New PBS Documentary....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I
OBAMANS So Spew What Nonsense You Want And I'll Keep Posting Facts Proving You Wrong!
Let US Send Obama Bush & Cheney To The Hague For Not War Crimes / Crimes Against Humanity In 2013 And We Need To Start Working On Undoing The Damage Wall Streets Terrorists Have Done To US!
Bibi understands which side of the bread is buttered,as does the new President of Egypt.Why not settle down and act as adults?
Fiesty the truly ignorant - Netanyahu went through painfully obvious rhetoric to avoid calling Obama an Idiot. Notice Amb. Rice stating numerous times a movie caused this, that came out in july? Not the DNC stating rightfully so 29 times Obama killed Osama. Own up to it! Obama can party in New York at a club but not meet our ONLY ally in the Mideast? Pathetic! Leaderless again!
You DemoRATs Repeatedly Claim bin NOBODY Was Gotten By Obama and Yet That Claim Is Still No Where Near A Provable Theory Let Alone A Proven Fact!
For Even A Theory Has To Have Been Based In Something Provable And Yet We Have Nothing But A Proven Lying Politicians Like The OBOMINATIONS Word For It And Strangely Enough Our Military Is Still Remaining Remarkably Mum.....National Security......Hahahahaha...Right!
Well Unless You Count The Magical Seal Story Or The Made For TV Fantasy Of Oh Dark Thirty Nonsense That Leaked Out Of The White House!.....Which Just Happens Now To be Scheduled To Be Released Just Before The Election!
Sorry....No bin Body.....No bin Credit!
But I Hope They PUT US ALL Into The Same US Army / FEMA Labor Camp So I can Watch You NWO Liberals & NEO Conservatives Making Big Rocks Into Little Rocks Right Along Side Of Me!
Come November Refuse To Reward FAILURE Refuse To Re-Elect ANY OF WALL STREETS INCUMBENT TERRORISTS.....Be They DemoRATic Or Otherwise!
You know, MUW, the reason you get no eye contact when you amble around town is that you tend to share your insane fantasies with normal people.
I watched the videos that you posted links for, MUW. The video about the destruction of the World Trade Center towers was interesting, but it raised only questions and provided no answers. What were you getting at there?
The video where President Obama is asked about a 'kill list', same thing. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. Do you expect the president to tip his hand on matters of national security?
The video of Wesley Clark discussing Bush's intent to attack Iraq only days after 9-11 reveals nothing that we haven't known for over a decade.
Comments like this make you look like a crazed conspiracy theorist. If that's not what you're about, then sell it, don't yell it.
Oh Snap Sailcat!!!
Still laughing over that one ... I do love a good dose of sanity on this board now and then ... and you, hit the nail on the head!
Thank you, Layton. Stating the obvious is my super power.
kaybeetoys crazed conspiracy? Sorry Conspiracy Implies There are No Facts Backing Up Their Claims (Not Mine) and That Being True The Only Conspiracy Is In The Continuing Demo/Republo Cover-up Of 9/11!
So Are You Saying POMPUS Obama Didn't Pass Indefinite Detention?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012
1 Indefinite detention without trial: Section 1021
1021: (a) Congress affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force . . . includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons . . . pending disposition under the law of war.
This provision includes people accused of certain terror-related crimes.... but it does not exempt U.S. citizens or legal aliens with U.S. territory. Thus, far, it appears they can be “detain[ed] . . . pending disposition under the law of war.”
As Signed Into Law By Barack Obama On 12/31/2012 After He Promised America He Would Not Sign This Atrocity!!
So Kaybee Are You Now Claiming That Barack H Obama Did Not Assassinate American Citizens WITHOUT TRIAL?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/18/us-citizens-drone-strike-deaths
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2097899,00.html
Wow Talk About A Conspiracy All Of These News Links Are Wrong And The King Bee Really Didn't Commit And / Or Cover-Up Any Of Those Crimes!
Well I Apologize Kaybee For You Must Be Right Obama Is A Saint And Not The Devil's Own Mass Murdering KILLER BEE DRONE ....NOT! That Is The Most Hilarious Response I Have Gotten To Date. You Agree With Exactly What I Posted And Then Foo Paw It All Because You Don't Like My Delivery! Then You Still Walk Away Supporting Obama Knowing Full Well He To Is Involved Up To His Eyeballs In All Of This And Yet Has DONE NOTHING ABOUT 911....PERIOD!
Please Explain If You All Have Know This For So Long Why Hasn't Anything Been Done? Isn't That One Of the Reasons We Elected Obama And He With A Wave Of His Royal Hand....Dropped All Criminal Investigations Against The People Who Violated American Law Including The CIA & Goldman Sachs!
So You Know Why I Don't Support President Obama Any More? He LIED TO US and I DO NOT REWARD LIARS AND FAILURES....At Least Romney Might Actually Believe In A Mormon Hell For Liars And Evil Doers (But Probably Not) Where As Obama OBVIOUSLY Doesn't In ANYTHING But Getting Re-Elected! Enough Said Kaybee For Your Own Words Show Your Lack Of Commitment To The Rule Of Law And America!
Sailcat-2064101 Got More Than A Little Problem With Your Ego I See! How About You And Lawton Go Get A Room And Go Do Your Thing There Instead Of Hiding In The Vines Spewing At Posters?
Got To Love How These Little Nasty One Line Sock Puppets Spewing Their Silly Nonsense As If Their Petty Insults Mean Something.....Hahahaha Post Content With Links Next Time Or Go Play With Yourselves Instead!
bob-1805084
Yes, Bob, because the teachers have the kids backs. Do you know any teachers? Did you ever know a teacher? Ever have one? (sorry)... It's simple. We do not have enough teachers. We do not pay teachers enough to do what they do. A government take-over of their hiring/firing process is going after an increment to a totally failed education system and basically boiling the issue down to a budget issue... and a false blame game to meet political goals (union busting).
Work with the school board and the parents and the kids' societal environment and influences and maybe you'll improve something.
MUW,
You need to watch/read more than just FOX news and hard right Internet sites... You make sense until you twist your conclusions... EVERY TIME.
You pretend to be in the mind of the President and that you KNOW his ulterior motives and his demon-like mind... when the facts and all indications are that you're dead wrong and maybe just drinking too much... koolaid, that is.
You lose me altogether when you call Obama the liar, say you refuse to support liars, then turn to Romney as our savior. Made me throw up. Romney has lied since the day he started running for office and never looked back... BLATANT lies... then he doubles down on them.
What a laugher.
MUW, with all due respect, that sounds suspiciously like the pot calling the kettle black (see below). Were you possibly talking about yourself there?
I wish I had a "link" to support my concern about your mental state, but I'm afraid I've got nothing but an opinion based on life experience.
My advice: calm down before you have a heart attack. Face the reality that we the people are not privy to state secrets. This is as it has always been, and so it will always be. Get a job in government if you want to make a change.
I think you have quoted George Orwell. Here is one you should take to heart, my friend:
Yeah, and now were seeing where a plain old jerks' foreign policy lands us.
Maybe the Arabic/Islamic-extremists who hate us, and who love killing Americans will leave us alone if Obama makes another apology to them.
Yeah, that's great, well-thought-out foreign policy.
NOT!
DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!
ZMAN
There are Islamic extremists who hate us. No American policy will placate them. However, most Mid East countries are governed by more moderate Muslims. We largely had their trust back during Desert Storm. When we invaded Iraq in 2003 without provocation, we alienated many of these moderate governments. Obama has been winning them back (ending the War in Iraq) and will continue to make progress here as he scales back the Afghanistan War.
Angry protests have not threatened to topple any governments in the Mid East in the past 8 days and consequently, the progress Obama has made in dealing with them, remains in place. It is easy to condemn hot-headed protesters of another faith. I understand that religious intolerance is the enemy of Americans and Muslims alike. This is the common ground that needs to be pursued to make the world a more peaceful place.
Hatred is the enemy of peace. Religious intolerance is the enemy of peace. Obama supports the peace process in the Middle East and the world. If we don't want to be always fighting wars, this is the way forward.
As I always say, MUW, if the bon mot fits, wear it!
TO: Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL who wrote:
I think Luke Russert, Tim's son, would be a great pick! He looks just like his dad!
RIP Tim Russert!
Obama/Biden 2012
If Netanyahu knows what is good for him and Israel, he better back Romney, because Obama really doesn't give a damn about Israel or Jewish people. Obama won't even meet with him when he is in the United States next time. I really think Obama is a closet Muslim that turned to Christianity for political reasons only. At the minimum, he is very supportive of Muslim causes, like the Arab Spring that may very well destroy the Middle East if its not controlled and is taken over by the radicals. I find it totally amazing that some Jews still support Obama. Incredible.
How about listening or reading next time?
Ohhhh the POUTRAGE!
Bless your hateful heart....you poor miserable thing you.
alan
Chill out.
Most Jews love their lives and home land more than anything else. With Ben and Mitt on the same side peace and longevity are over. Israel like Iran will revert back to being an empty sand box. We all must hope cooler heads prevail. And get Israel out of American Politics for good.
I read it, and Netanyahu "downplayed it" alright.
But when one nation is about to attack another and their PM wants to meet with you in person, President Obama should FIND A WAY to fit it into his schedule.
The problem here is Obama has spent very little time running the country and most of his time flying around the country campaigning for re-election. His priorities are screwed up. He would be at some fundraiser somewhere rather than have a discussion about a potential war between two countries. Pretty sad.
Alan, for starters your facts are wrong. But let us put that aside, shall we? Romney is a blundering idiot who would bring us into war with Iran to boost his own ego.
This is a dangerous world where cooler heads and reason must prevail. President Obama has displayed toughness, but not bluster. There is a huge difference.
BTW, Romney has said he would call his friend Bibi and ask "What do you want me to say? What so you want me to do?"
The last thing the United States needs is a President who is the lap dog to the Prime Minister of Israel or any other country for that matter.
Romney has shown no real interest in the details of anything, including foreign policy. Mendacity Mitt cannot be trusted with this country.
Romney threw himself under the bus and he should stay there.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012...in case you really wondered.
bob1,
And what do you think the Ben and Barack combo will do? It doesn't look good for Israel with that combination.
RRuin,
Fact: Romney would have a much better foreign policy thaN Obama and we would have a much better standing in the world, not a weak one that Obama has created. No doubt about it.
Oh, and yes, Obama/Biden- Four more MONTHS! ;-)
alan: Don't worry, Netanyahu is definitely rooting for Romney. But, unlike Obama, the guy understands statesmanship. Come November the libs won't now what hit them. Heck, they are still shocked that the Muslims are attacking America. Obama, Clinton and their media still can't believe what is happening. It wasn't supposed to happen because the One understands them and that has extended his hand, and that should be enough.
No matter how they spin it, their utopia is falling apart and the only way they know to stop it is to lie about it and blame Bush.
Why don't you start worrying about WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOU, AND THE REST OF AMERICANS????? We already spent many resources doing UNPROVOKED WARS, AND NOW YOU WANT to elect RSmney, so he can squander our SOCIAL SECUTIRY AND MEDICAID HEPING THIS JERK.
Go ahead and enroll in the Israeli Army. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A GOOD DUMN MEN LIKE YOU!!!!
RRuin
We need action. Cooler heads is just another phrase that means santions and more talk. The UN believes sanctions are the way to go. BS. They never work. We have numerous sanctions against Iran and yet they still have the capabilities to make the bomb.
No, we cannot be in every country but Iran is a global problem.
Enough talk. I do not want another war, but we need to let the dog off the chain and stop Iran now.
Sanctions do not and never have worked.
Republicans have always tried the balance the budget and help the economy through war.
The sanctions are working, but won't totally slow down the development of nuclear weapons. They have severely reduced the number and type of centrifuges needed. They are only enriching to 20%, and would need to enrich to 90% to have a viable bomb.
I believe Israeli and U.S. intelligence knows where things are at. Israel won't wait to act. The U.S. can support that process, but shouldn't be the attack dog of Israel necessarily.
Romney has no clue, I'm sure after next week when he begins to get security briefings he'll be somewhat embarassed about his stances on foreign policy. That or he'll divulge something he shouldn't for political gain.
Netanyahu CHOSE to attempt to meet with Obama only after meeting with Romney and then finding that Romney's prospects of winning the election were low and crashing. He knew that Obama was in the midst of a re-election campain where he was being outspent 4-to-1. And he wanted to make "hay" for Romney by getting Obama to refuse to meet with him. But the bottom line is that Netanyahu (The Big Yahoo) is a manipulative idiot who realizes that he has created a situation where he has married Romney for better or worse. When Romney loses, Baby will be kicked out of office. Maybe then Israel can start seriously considering stopping threatening the rest of the world with their "big brother."
@eric,
What people miss is that Iran does not have to develop an actual nuclear weapon.
1) Any reasonable smart high school graduate can create an "cannon" bomb such as "Little Boy" Hiroshima type with ease. All that is needed is enough fissile material, some lead, and some thick stainless steel pipe. A "Fat Man" bomb like the one that requires a little more knowledge of explosives, but far less fissile material. You have to remember that this technology is as much as 80 years old at this point --- literally childs' play.
2) 20% enriched uranium sounds like it has a long way to go to 90+%. In fact, it is about 82% of the way there. As the uranium is enriched it becomes easier to separate. A stockpile of 20% enriched uranium could be enriched to 90% in a matter of weeks using Iran's existing facilities. That is why they are concentrating on 20% instead.
3) For a "Fat Man" implosion bomb, the sophistication lies in getting a number of explosive charges to go off at precisely the same time. In the 1940's this was extremely challenging. Today the necessary technology cam be bought in any camera shop for pocket change. That is the aspect that the Iranians have been testing at the site they are currently cleaning up while denying access to UN inspectors.
4) For countries like Iran and North Korea, they can take an extra step to make warheads more "transportable" by simply eliminating most of the shielding (about 70+% of a bomb's weight and half its volume) and using fanatics (or people who can be sufficiently coerced) to suicidally set the warheads in place on missiles. It is an effect miniturization method that the US cannot use.
By putting all the pieces in place -- the plans, the explosives, the enriched uranium --- Iran can have about 80% of the threat of a nuclear arsenal for about 20% or less of the cost. It's not nearly as insane as it sounds.
No American Blood or American preemptive strike on a maybe, been snookered once on the WMD hysteria, not again. Gregory has to go, too Casper Milquetoast, why is he afraid to ask hard questions and push for decent answers, what is he afraid of, the "guests" won't like him, really. Bebe is belligerent and a bully, you Americans better hop to it, romney perfect tool for Netanyahu. Go home bebe and try to do something useful for peace between the Israel and Palestinians.
Obama 2012
OK, Wise guy! Your statement that "Obama really doesn't give a damn about Israel or Jewish people.", is absolutely not true. Even (remote possibility) if its true, I don't give a damn. All that matters to me, is whether Obama gives a damn about America, Americans of all color and creed, and American Interests. The resounding answer is "Yes, he does."
BTW, alan3008, Reading your postings here, any reasonable minded person would conclude "You are full of sh$#$#$$it. Better keep your mouth shut."
The question I'd ask Bibi is who the heck does he think he is, why does he think he can call the White House and say "I'll be in town this weekend, how about we meet for lunch?" It doesn't work that way and Netanyahu knows it. Bibi was inserting himself in our country's democratic election process, it's as simple.
alan, Netanyahu is not posed to bomb Iran despite all his bluster; he's smarter than that. He's been making these threats since elected as Israeli Prime Minister. He doesn't have to travel here to inform our President of anything--there are encrypted, secure phone lines in this modern age.
Irespond, obviously if they are looking for "A GOOD DUMN MEN LIKE YOU" who can squander our "SOCIAL SECUTIRY AND MEDICAID HEPING", you are their man!
People of your intelligence with your hands out are the very reason Oblama was elected. He will give you free money and you vote for him so he'll give you more money. Your type of person is going to destroy this country voting for giveaway politicians.
Ever think about getting a job, or education, or both? Try it. You might actually have to go to work, but you might appreciate the change. I know those of us who actually work for a living would appreciate it.
I'm with you Hyjak. I have witnessed sooo many lazy assss people living off my tax dollar, making false claims to get more money, women having baby after baby as their 'livelyhood' and those kids growing up doing the exact same thing. The problem is, there are so many illegal aliens coming into our country taking jobs and demanding benefits that even if these low-life blood sucking lazy assss welfare junkys actually DID go out to get a job there wouldn't be any. At least... none that would pay as good as Obama plan does.
Tea - correction, Obama cares about Americans who vote for him, and then only if they serve his long term purpose. He routinely insults 50% of Americans who do not support his ideas, methods, or lies and clearly doe not care nor support their lives - he only wants to limit their freedom and take their money.
There is ample evidence of this truth.
Mister Wonderful, where is your wonderful evidence to this truth? Don't give me the standard Teatards talking points. I forgot which Republican billionaire or wealthy guy who said this, but he said, "If you are a wealthy billionaire or multi-millionaire and if you want to increase your net worth and ensure the pot grows, you better vote for a democrat in the Presidential election."
It's true that under Democratic presidents, the wealth of the rich has increased (contrary to what people believe) and most importantly the wealth gap (so called GINI coefficient) between rich and poor does not (or hasn't) increase(d) as much or as fast as it does / did under republican Presidents. Both are facts and it means, the democrats are the ones who don't play class warfare.
I see the hate filled Republicans are out in force today. It doens't matter that they - as usual - are spouting nothing but lies and do it knowing full well they are lying.
Netanyahu was very specific that he did not feel dissed by Obama - they they talk regularly and their schedules did not mesh this trip. He was very clear that he feels Obama has supported Israel and has not thrown them under the bus - even as Gregory worked hard to get him to said Obama did.
Our President has had to make hard decisions during a very difficult time for our country. I see - again - the whining about people needing government help - even though everyone knows we have more people out of work. It is our jobs as Americans to help people who cannot find jobs - until they do. We have always been the country the world looked at in awe because we don't let people die on the streets of hunger - we help our own.
This new Republican idea that people who are down on their luck are somehow "less" than other people is disgusting; sick; and totally unAmerican. What has the radical right become? I hear you guys harping on being the true Christians - even as you hate people who are in need. It's the type Christian who is one during the hours of Church on Sunday - then goes back to being hate filled and despicable the rest of the week. Not the Christianity I learned growing up - not by a long shot.
hjack - the stupidity that you spout is beyond belief. So, according to you, anyone who doesn't believe like you had to be taking government assistance? You're a total jerk. I'm actually in my office today - as are many people. Most of us supporting President Obama work. So, get over the lies and ignorance you usually spout and try to talk some sense. I realize that will be difficult for someone like you but give it a try!
Obama/Biden 2012
@Mister Whatever,
If you want to look for it, there is a Nate Silver TED Talk on racism in the 2008 election.
His basic premis is that if you take everyone who voted for McCain, and subtract the percentage who told exit polls that the m,ain reason they voited for McCain was Obama's race, then Obama would have won the election by the largest landslide since George Washington ran unopposed.
I would agree that Obama cares about people who vote for him. But the issue is that the vast majority of people are not particularly racist and do support his ideas and methods.
This is ample evidence of this truth, not your version of "truth."
SS, I've seen your lunatic liberal posts numerous times. #1, you do not know me, my job, or my intellect, so don't pretend to be able to judge. #2, I doubt that you know Irespond, so your assumptions about him/her hold no basis in fact, any more so than mine, which drew your liberal ire. Off your high-horse for a while.
'Most of us supporting Obama work'. Is that a liberal guess? Assuredly, most people who don't work and get hand-outs support Obama, because that will assure their future hand-outs.
Whatever you do in your 'office', and whatever your income is, if Oblama gets in for 4 more years, you are about to get stuck for the most amazing tax increase you have ever imagined. If you really do work, under his 'guidance and leadership', you will probably go on the public dole, as have most of his other supporters. So funny that you libs have fallen for his lying blather.
Cliff is coming.
Well hjack I must disagree, I have recouped a half million dollars in my retirement account under Obama's economy, that I lost under Bush's economy. I have never been unemployed, except for a few weeks of my own choosing to take care of personal family concerns. I recently started the most lucrative position I have ever held, I have never been on the public dole in my entire life, and I have always paid twice the tax rate that Mitt Romney pays. Romney is not worried about my tax rate, he is worried about his own tax rate, Republicans will never allow me to have the same tax rate as he does. Id much rather pay taxes and have that money help this nation and those in it who need some help, than to simply provide more wealth for the extremely wealthy.
hjack - you should get off your radical high horse. You tout no facts - just your usual right-wing hatred joined by such intellects as Concern, Harley Chic - etc. You must be soooo proud.
You have no basis to say that most people who don't work support President Obama and you've shown that - you just make empty statements filled with GOP ignorance and rhetoric.
I work in the financial industry and do well because I work hard. Not everyone is as fortunate as me and I am well aware that many people are out of work and looking for jobs. I know no one who is out of work that chooses to be.
Mitt Romney offers no solutions to anything - he spouts whatever he thinks the crowd he is addressing wants to hear - then changes it for the next group of people. Get a clue - he is no leader!
Your ignorance about people and how they are voting is only overshadowed by your eagnerness to shout that ignorance!
Obama/Biden 2012
bob1/28
AMEN!!!!!!!
I smell fiesty on a Sunday!!! That's odd, stinking up the joint on the weekends. Oh boy, the unrest in the middle east is just what my boy Mitt Needed to completely pull away even further from Dumboma... He is already leading in many national polls. Our Muslim leaning president has everyone on edge. We are not sure if we can continue to trust our president to keep US citizens safe abroad. The middle east and northern African radical muslims have shown no respect for human life and should be dealt with firmly. We must act swiftly to bring these thugs to justice, and no, Eric Holder, you will not be in charge of prosecuting anybody, anymore.. We don't need a president with a soft spot ( the tide of war is changing ) for muslims, forien, or domestic. We need a strong leader that cares about our soldiers, and our vets, Obama does not!!! Our Military will not re-elect Obama, they show no confidence in him. It's time to take this great country back. Vote Romney/Ryan November
Chris-749391,
Don't even attempt to fool these people with your wikipedia knowledge of Nuclear Weapons, I used to teach Nuclear (Weapons) Physics, a comfortable 0700 to 1900 desk job, also trained in Chemical, Biological, Missiles, Conventional Munitions (including EOD); until I was told either resign my commission or become a US Military Asymmetric Warfare Middle East Qualified Officer sent into f**ked up covert Combat attached to the CIA's SAD/SOG during the so called "Peacetime" US Military (Rest of US Military sitting around comfortable at Snack Bars, weekends off, living with their families, running water, flush toilets, etc.).
As far as all the sabre rattling, it is TOO F**KING late to do anything about the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Underground Nuclear Facilities. Even the US "Deep Penetrator" Bomb cannot touch the below 250 feet Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Underground Nuclear Facilities; that would be like saying that that US Bomb could destroy US NORAD or the USSR Ural Mountain Complex.
The time to have attacked the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran was when the US Ally Sunni Government of Saudi Arabia begged (image that) the US and or Israel to do something. Instead of listening to the US Ally Saudi Arabia pleas President Obama snubbed them and sent Secretary of Defense Gates (yes, that long ago) to placate the US Ally Saudi Arabia.
The US Ally Saudi Arabia was so pissed, "President Obama gave Iraq to Iran as a Gift on a Golden Platter". And President Obama did with his previous idealistic March 2009 Iran Policy, that allowed Iran to do anything without US Interventions until the US told the Iran's first what the US was going to do to them with Negotiations ("Empty Word" - Ayatollahs of Iran), this was seen as President Obama negotiating from a position of defeat. The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran start their Overt and Covert Actions to Overthrow the US Allies Worldwide.
To advance the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran's Nuclear Program by DECADES their Ally, the Russian Federation did the hardest part, processing of rocks (uranium ore) to extract the uranium and processed into the metallic form of enriched uranium. The UN and US were outraged by the Russian Federations actions, the Russian Federation basically told them to f**k off (in politically correct terms).
Without too many details considered as CNWDI, fortunately for the US and US Allies the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran does not have two critical materials required to even build a simple rapid assembly nuclear weapon. Unfortunately, they have made negotiations to obtain these materials from the North Koreans and possibly Pakistan (blocked by current US Ally Pakistanis Government).
It has long been the Strategic Goals of the Chinese and Russian Federation to get the US and US Allies out of their Backyards (Resources) and Strategic Locations. The Chinese and Russian Federation have been using the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran as their "Proxy Fighters". The Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran has been using the Islamic Jihadists "Holy Warriors" Worldwide as their "Proxy Fighters" as funded by Trillions USDs per year of Mandatory Islamic Tithes from over 1.5 Billion Islamic Believers Worldwide as required with current Islamic Laws.
They (Chinese, Russian Federation, Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran) know that the US and US Allies must have the Strategic Resources to maintain the current US Standard of Living and to create the Future US High Tech Alternative Energy. By stopping these Strategic Resources the US and US Allies become Fourth World Nations like Somalia. (and don't give me the lame excuses about Mexican, Canadian, Saudi Arabian and US Oil (US Oil depleted during the 1900s "Black Gold Oil Rushes"); or something for nothing Alternative Energy (resources required to manufacturer), NG (Methane) Billions spent by the Oil Corporations to push NG and Fracking, etc.). This was proven during the 1970s Oil Crisis, with the US having to use the remaining US high sulfur content Oil resulting in Acid Rain (sulfuric acid, rain drops literally eating into the paint and windshields, killing plants by burning the leaves) until this was stopped by the Environmentalists.
By the way YOU do NOT Elect the US President and Vice President, the Rich Elitists (research "Millionaires") of the Electoral College do. (your lame justification for the Electoral College to exist, was also the justification of the Rich Elitist Founding Fathers to establish the Electoral College while their real reason (US Congressional Records), "The average citizen is too ignorant to determine the Highest Offices of the Land, President and Vice President". The Electoral College must be eliminated and Our Direct Votes determine the President and Vice President.
Do the Research. You want to know President Obama's Thought Processes (Decision Making Processes) and Goals read his book, Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance. Do NOT even attempt to use other peoples interpretations, cliff notes versions, out of context, etc..
article....Netanyahu said that Romney's accusation about Obama having essentially abandoning Israel on the world stage was "simply not the case and simply not my position."
Speaks volumes about Ntanyahu's take on who the winner will be in 2012 - talk about throwing under a bus. Romney just doesn't "get it", and the debates will be interesting since whenever he goes off script he makes comments that are laughable at best.
Obama 2012, and NO GOP votes for 2012
SRAGAN, you better check those polls again, Obama is leading in every national poll I can find with the single exception of Rasmussen which has Romney by 1 point. If you look at the remaining undecided states that will deliver the winning electoral votes, it gets even worse for Romney.
OMG! ALAN!
you really do believe that the ONLY dialogue that has taken place between our President and Netanyahu during the past four years is the few inflammatory sentences you occasionally read and hear in the media?
do us all a favor, Alan? STFU and go READ A BOOK, for the cryin' out loud!
David Gregory gives journalism a bad name. MTP with Tim Russert was informative and worthwhile, one of the few real news programs left on TV. Now Gregory has turned it into just another piece of cheap info-tainment, one more program that thrives on creating trumped-up controversy. His guests have zero credibility to discuss issues of national and international importance. Why put on the same old losers every week and throw them softballs? I have quit watching...it makes my blood boil. I'm tired of sending email after email to MTP, begging them to get rid of David Gregory and replace him with someone who has some integrity.
TO: alan3008 who wrote:
The only thing Romney knows about "foreign policy" is how to ship American Jobs to China.
Obama/Biden 2012
I have the feeling that Benny boy ( the bully of the middle east ) has been told to flat out stand down. His fiery hawkish speeches are doing more harm than good . As for Mr. Mittens , I would not trust him as far as I could throw him. Put mitt and ben together and you get WW-3.
Bibi cannot stand Obama a rightfully so. All the Jewish newspapers talk about this. I feel sorry for them being surrounded by crazy wackos. And Iran is one of those wacko who has almost completed their bomb.
I feel sorry for them being surrounded by crazy wackos. And Iran is one of those wacko who has almost completed their bomb.
I do not like the Iraninas that much, but they have come along ways IN eDUCATION AND TECHNNOLOGY, and they are not STUPID to throw a bomb to Israel, knowing that the US would pulverize their country overnight.
If they indeed have abomb, is just a guarantee that the Israelis WILL NOT BULLY THEM ANY MORE.
Obama's approval rating among Jews is 54% with 41% disapproving. That's higher than the U.S. in general (gallup.com).
In fact, the Jewish Journal from various polls predicts Obama 70% Romney 27%.
So basically, this is Romney pandering for the Jewish vote. Like anything else, do we know where Romney stands? He changes positions constantly, and doesn't give specifics for what he would do different. He just criticizes Obama and says, "trust me".
Bull, Eric. You just don't want to know where he stands. You, like so many other americans don't take the time to research and listen and then research more. This country is so far from what it use to be and should be with taxes, taxes and taxes upon taxes, government controlling how we live, where we live, why we live and who can make it or not. Permits needed just to say we're thinking about building, kids having to pay at the beginning of the year for their books, sports the 'might' consider taking through the year, required school insurance, bus fees... even though levies pass and TAXES are taken out even more. Licenses required at an outrageous amount of cost just so backyard farmers can sell their wares at saturday markets, not being able to sell milk from you own cow except out of your house and for 'animal' consumption only and you can't advertise you have it.. It has to be by word of mouth. Let's not mention the big banks who have been stealing homes out from under people illegally knowing that if they had to go to court they couldn't even prove they have rights to it but also knowing that the little man doesn't have the money to fight them for their own home. Say it how it is. There are so many gangs from ethnic groups in this country because they've been allowed to come into this country, not having to speak English (we accomdate them by putting THEIR language in our walmarts and taco bells, etc... we have little countries within this country and the melting pot has been filled with chaos. Groups living by their own laws and standards and trying to force the minority onto the majority. Lazy people who won't stand up for what this country stood for... family defined as between a husband and wife, religious freedom where there would be no persecution, a government ruled BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE. We are so far gone from that and it's time for this country to fall and start over. Obama would be the LAST person I would want in the line up as leadership in this spectrum. He does NOT hold Christian values, he is NOT about the People but about power and himself and 'his' government and he does NOT care what the people really need. He hasn't a clue. You people talk about Romeny not being in touch with the people... if you really knew him, his standards, ethics, belief, then you would figure out how WRONG You are. Eyes wide shut. The easiest way out. You are all but sheep using Obama as your shepherd.. only he's leading you to the slaughter house! Good luck with that.
Rather than politicizing this as these liberal posters today desire to do, have any of you bothered to read the foreign press? The "truth" about these attacks, how the Jewish people feel about Obama and many other topics are clearly different than what our pathetic press filter and twist to enable the thugs in the White House to continue their two-faced agenda, while throwing us as a nation under the bus.
Y'all should really open your mind, as there is much "truth" out there that NBC and the others complicit in the great lie will not tell you.
Mister Wonderful - the only group throwing Americans under the bus are the Republicans with their lies and deceit. And, the ignorant morons who follow them just eat up those lies because they are too dumb to read the truth.
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The BBC showed President Obama is the more favored candidate overseas.
The Brits dubbed Romney as "Mitt the Twit", and it kind of stuck. They are funny like that.
Well I know one thing its not for anyone in America to say at what point should Israel should act on Iran . How would us Americans act if Russia once again wanted to put missles inCuba ? Seeking Sanity and yes you can compare the both. you are the moron you seeem like you would like a 1 party system. If I was the leader of Israel Iran would never have gotten this far in making a bomb and your even a bigger moron if you think that the screwballs in Iran if they obtain the bomb they will use it on israel unless you been living in a cave you heard it yourself. If Iran had made the same threat against America do you honestly think we woulden't have done something by now your a fool. By America holding Israel back may be the worst thing posable cause maybe America wont know when they have a bomb able to cause Israel's destruction and maybe they will build enough so they have a few to send to America than what ? Our government is slowly putting Israel under the bus if you can't see that than explain why Obama is willing to (GIVE) THE FASTEST GROWING TERRORIST GROUP OUT THERE TODAY THE BROTHERHOOD EGYPTS NEW GOVERNMENT tell me why the hell would any of the free world give those Bastards a billion dollars did you moron know that . Israel is running out of time and even if America don't see that, I'll bet you every Israeli knows it and are in fear of nuts like the ones that run Iran. I hope Israel kicks Iran's ass all over the desert . As far as lies go most the politicians lie through their teeth not just one party like you seem to think. Just look back when Iran took innocent people our Diplomats and held them hostage like they were criminals and marched them through their ugly streets . Another thing had we acted back then we wouldn't be letting them get away with the @!$%# they are now . The leaders know what needs to be done and I hope they they do it soon
Keep Seeking that you will NEVER find that (Sanity) where you are currently at SeekingSanity.
You cannot make the fish living in a fish bowl understand that they are living in a fish bowl.
SeekingSanity,
YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUTH.
Let's start with President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts (Plural US Laws) that eliminated all US Citizen's Constitutional Rights. Monitoring and Censorship of All US Communications. Expanded Presidential Powers. Preemptive Detentions of US Citizens. US Military Use of Deadly Force Against US Citizens. US Military "Classified" Tribunals (legal defense no access to "classified", nor access to "classified" accusors). Material Support to Terrorist Organizations (no "Expert Advise" including Legal Representation, currently being fought by ACLU). Inclusion of the previously defeated as Unconstitutional US Senate S.1959 and US House of Representatives H.R.1955 aka the George Orwell 1984 Thought Crime Laws including the definitions like "Anyone Stating a Radical Change to (US) Government is a Homegrown Domestic Terrorist" (see preemptive detentions of US Citizens). Classified Sections.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE
2012 to close a loop hole in his January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts, President Obama signs into US Law his NDAA, the Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens. The US Military Use of Deadly Force Against US Citizens (Worldwide):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeuE16LLDY
By publicizing the President Obama NDAA, Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens, we (the People) got the US Courts to strike down as Unconstitutional the Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens; this is currently being fought tooth and nail by President Obama and his Administration "As the elimination of an essential tool in his War Against Terrorism".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWRZpESh3z0
This is like many of us (mostly US Military sworn to the US Constitution) that were previously aware of what US Congress was doing started to publicise their intent of passing into US Laws the US Senate S.1959 and US House of Representatives H.R.1955; we won that with the Judicial Branch of US Government declaring these Unconstitutional, and lost because these were included in President Obama's January 21, 2009 Patriot Acts as part of his Expanded Presidential Powers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKB4IPFO5ao
This previous defeat of the US Laws the US Senate S.1959 and US House of Representatives H.R.1955 as Unconstitutional, is why the Speaker for all Demoncraps as the Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, stated, "Anyone returning from the Wars is a potential Homegrown Domestic Terrorist". (retaliation against US Military, as Guilty Until Proven Innocent).
and the all boxes of rocks keep voting for this "Popularity not Substance", "Empty Words not Results", "Emotions not Logic", "Opinions not Facts":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=JpBnO5ICoN8&NR=1
When the missiles were put on Cuba's soil all Americans heard about was the very public statement for the Soviet Union and Cuba to make our day. What we did not hear about was Plan B where Kennedy and Khrushchev were on the phone constantly before Kennedy made such a statement and Kennedy agreed to remove missiles in Europe that the Soviets did not like and they would remove the missiles in Cuba. It was not Kennedy getting "tough" and putting out a red line.
And Netanyahu knows that even if the U.S. takes the lead on airstrikes in Iran,it will only delay Iran's nuclear program for 4 years. They are hoping to delay Iran's nuclear program until there is a regime change with whom they can negotiate with.
In the mean time - this is all about Netanyahu's political career that is on the line.
The key to world leadership is spelled "diplomacy". Prime Minister Netanyahu understands this, President Obama understands this, Romney doesn't have a clue.
If diplomacy is taking it up the arse and then saying I am sorry then Obama is a leader in his own way.
the, what apology, google bush apologies and surprise, surprise, your hero up to his weed whacker, besides holding hands and kissing Saudi Prince, w was the king of apologies, oh, what about W letting the Saudi family high-tail it out of dodge right after 9/11, comment please.
Obama 2012
Americans ridicule Romney while Muslims cheer in the streets after attacking America, with absolutely no response from our limp wristed president.
Obama is a disaster, as even now he and his cohorts blame a video for the unrest, while the Libyan President confirms this was an orchestrated attack from al Qaeda, which has been confirmed by al Qaeda.
These folks are laughing in the streets at the American fool, Obama, and the utter weakness he has shown.
Sadly, the liberals will again be "surprised" when Obama loses in a landslide, just like the 2010 Congressional election.
Every Tea Party member should hang their head in shame for giving the axe to many worthy Republican and Democratic congressmen and women who were willing to compromise and work together to find solutions to our nation's disastrous problems. Shame on all those uneducated fanatics in the TP and all the fearful GOP they control, for loving themselves and their own agendas more than they love America.
The Tea Party is a self-righteous, narrow-minded movement that has strong-armed the weak GOP into a shadow of the Grand Old Party they used to be, and every one of its blind members has worshiped their own personal interests more than caring about the future of the whole nation.
Silverton....Superdumb...
silerton - well said and right on target!
Obama/Biden 2012
silverton-2953905, SeekingSanity,
Your Ignorance is ignorance; no right to believe anything can be derived from it. - Sigmund Freud
President Obama's Actions to circumvent the US Congress "Will of the People" (keep clicking "next", see something you don't "like", tough sh!t):
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions
This guy has no more business in our election than I have in an Israeli election. Butt out.
Yes, let's not listen to him. Instead let's stand with an inexperienced azz clown that is partial to Muslims and hangs out with Beyonce and Jay Z.
Hope your kids like Sharia law.
jw101 - just a hnt - when you reference Sharia law we know you're an idiot!
Obama/Biden 2012
I'm an American. I do not take my marching orders from the leader of another country -- and certainly not one that is propped up with my tax dollars.
It's really very simple. The president of the United States, whoever he or she might be, is duty bound to place the interests of the United States ahead of the interests of any other country.
Totally agree with you Sigmund. Romney, however, is used to put his personal interests above anybody else's.
He will take us to war if that suits his wacko agenda.
How about congress stopping the 1 billion dollar payments to every foreign country. Until the people of the USA all have homes jobs and social security and medicare .The people of the USA owe no one anything..We need to kick these "BUMS" all out who continue to send aid to all these countries and chose that over the people why pay the taxes ! There is something very wrong with the USA !
How about congress stopping the 1 billion dollar payments to every foreign country. Until the people of the USA all have homes jobs and social security and medicare .The people of the USA owe no one anything..We need to kick these "BUMS" all out who continue to send aid to all these countries and chose that over the people who pay the taxes ! There is something very wrong with the USA !
***Sorry the corrections printed it twice
"Moreover, the relationship between Obama and Netanyahu is generally regarded as tense, a charge which the Israeli prime minister rejected. " Regarded as tense because reporters keep saying that! Why? Because it is easier than real journalism. i believe it is all political posturing on Israel's part.
No, he didn't.
Looking at the muslim world ove the last week, it would seem that Obama's foreign policy of appeasement is definitely working.
Feel free to go ahead and keep quoting that rocket scientist, Sarah Palin. But understand there is no "policy of appeasement." There is a concept known as "diplomacy" (which among other things means understanding situations BEFORE shooting) and that is a priority for all governments.
Further, isolationism does not work in a global society. This requires us to be able to work WITH other countries (in spite of what Sen. Inhofe says).
While I do not like what is happening, it's a seriously flawed and unsubstantiated statement to say that President Obama has a foreign policy of appeasement and that this (non-existent) policy is the reason for all the embassy attacks.
SO what is Romney's Foreign Policy then DemSocialist?
Romney just doesn't have any solutions...for anything. AM empty suit carrying an empty briefcase.
I am sure that bin Laden and 24 of the top 26 al-Quaeda leaders feel very "appeased."
It is bizarre how Republicans can twist anything into their racist worldview in a way that completely lacks any shred of common sense or critical thinking.
"Diplomacy" or as Obama claimed, the Muslim world would look at us differently. Here is the quote from 2007: He predicted, "I truly believe that the day I'm inaugurated, not only is the country looking at itself; but the world looks at America differently."
The truth is the Muslim world is now burning Obama's image, dragging dead Americans through the streets, attacking our embassies, and are preaching to kill our Ambassadors.
No one in their right mind after 4 years of "leadership" would agree with Obama's statement.
Obama is a failure with regards to "diplomacy", with dead Americans and burned Embassy along with unrest spreading around the world to prove the point. How many continents does this madness need to spread to before liberals admit that the current course is a disaster?
Mister Wonderful - Unrest around the world is due to President Obama? Where have you been all of your life? I know of no time when those areas you talk about have not had unrest.
Did we have a harsh situation this past week? Without a doubt. The loss of 4 American lives is devastating but you can hardly blame that on President Obama's foreign policy.
Do you blame the deaths of 9/11 on Bush and the Republicans? Do you?
Get a clue. You are so far off base you don't even know where the field is.
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He owns both running candidates. That sounds very neutral to me.
Sorry, Be Be, but I can't knowingly, willingly, morally and humanly support your religious/nationalist state with my hard-earned tax dollars. I refuse to be extorted (aka taxed) by my armed government, so they may take portions of my fiat money, and hand it over to you. In fact, I'm not sorry, I am instead REPULSED that there are human beings on this planet who still believe they are somehow more "chosen" than other human beings. We are all the same, at the core.......and I don't buy the obsolete religious indoctrination, domination and servitude.
Islam anyone?
Mormonism, anyone?
Catholicism, anyone?
Exactly what would Willard do? Of course, he doesn't alke about anything that he will actually do but emeshing ourselves with a "bomb Iran" mantra would be foolish and ill conceived. I believe Obama is trying his best to keep us out of another long and costly war but still destroy Irans nuclear arms. Without a doubt, something will happen and probably sooner than later. But I do give kudos to Obama for walking slowly and safely. AND there is now way that he has thrown Obama or israel under the proverbial bus.
Yes, I also give "kudos to Obama for walking slowly and safely" to our demise! Sheep anyone!
Are you done with the one you have right now? Nice of you to share!!
@sonman - the only sheep in this scenario is Romney and his followers, like you, being led by the Pied Piper Netanyahu to the black box with the red button, and delivering strikes against Iran. It begs the question, why do Romney followers want to be led by such a small minded man like Netanyahu. Yet another reason Romney will not be elected - Americans have no desire to live in a country led by the Israeli PM.
Teddy Roosevelt, a real Republican, said, "Talk softly, and carry a big stick." And time and time again --- in such areas as shutting down the Russo-Japanese War that threatened to engulf the world and completely humiliating the Kaiser by shutting down his plans to invade the US in such a way that the Kaiser was literally forced into WWI to avoid a firing squad --- TR was able to change the world with ONLY the soft talk. This was not ap[peasement --- it was complete and absolute military success using only minimal threat and force.
I'm sure Tom that Mitt would respect our nation and repel our enemies. Hussein however will do more of the same - golf, fundraise, sell hoodies while Americans die and Hussein denies that this has anything at all to do with his mixed messages that include appeasement / drone-assassinations.
How any thinking American does not understand that we cannot kill people at will, using drones, while us telling them we respect them, and not expect them to think us cowards and liars is really beyond me.
OH, you want the subtle approach, bombs from jets!
You seem to lack basic knowledge of how diplomacy works. When it does, you do not have orchestrated attacks on your own interests.
Romney is, above all, a successful businessman. As such, he understands how to negotiate successfully- a trait Obama does not posess in any way, shape, or form.
Obama has difficulty with something as simple as dealing with reality, as shown by his minions on today's talk shows. If, as they profess, this administration actually believes that all of this violence has at its root an obscure, amateur video trailer, they are in even deeper denial than anyone had realized. The president of Libya has told them that this was an orchestrated attack; the Jerusalem Post, on the morning of September 11, carried a front page story about credible threats to both our and their embassies in Cairo; the administration clams there were no threats, Obama is beloved, and everything is just hunky dory.
That may explain Obama's jetting off to Vegas on the day our Ambassador and three other Americans were slaughtered.
The remaining members of the Obama cult may share his delusions of magnificence, but it is clear that the world does not. They see Obama for what he is- a narcissistic fool who is destroying this country.
He's got to go.
no joe - I am always amazed that you continue to spout your stupidity over and over again. When it does, you do not have orchestrated attacks on your own interests. So the fact that orchestrated attacks have taken place in virtually every President's term means we've had no President's who have had great diplomacy, right? You are beyond stupid.
Diplomace and foreign policy are not what have dictated the attacks on our embassys. The Libyan leader said it best this morning - this is not because of a movie or because of foreign policy. It is because a country like America - with the freedoms we have - exists. The fanatics cannot stand that there is a country where freedom is prevalent as it is in the United States.
You post your hatred for our President over and over yet you base it on your own lack of intelligence and ability to accept that a man who you didn't want for President was elected. You and others like you make the Republican party look as ignorant as it has become.
Romney being a businessman would NOT help him in the diplomatic arena as we saw so completely as he made gaffe after gaffe on his European tour. The man doesn't have a clue about foreign policy and diplomacy is a word no one has explained to him yet.
The only narcissistic fool I see is you who continues to prove it daily. You are really a disgusting excuse for an American.
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Obviously, this nut job has never worked in a business a day in her life. CEOs do not negotiate, they dictate, and if you don't kiss your bosses ass, you are fired. There is nothing diplomatic about it.
RedDevPS - it is very clear that no joe has no idea of what a successful business person does and how they do it However, we all know they don't succeed by insulting those they would do business with, as Romney did in his European tour.
No joe has no clue!
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Obama, the Appeaser-in-Chief, could take a few lessons from BIBI on real foreign policy!
SO just what is Romney's Foreign policy, Sonmanvb? Please tell us. Because your candidate cant (chuckle) Throwing rocks at the president isn't enough. What are his foreign policy proposals? Please list them
No solutions, no vote. Romney is an empty suit carrying an empty briefcase
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So, @sonofdumb, how appeased are bin Laden and 24 of 26 top al-Quaeda leaders? Appeaser indeed. I seriously doubt that Osama bin Laden's last thought was, "I feel sooooo appeased."
sonmanvb, on second keep your sheep,you probably both lost your virginity at the same moment.
Last time I checked, Israel was still getting $BILLIONS of dollars in aid from the U.S. Not to mention, they have the BEST military firepower of ANY nation in the Middle East. They have biological, chemical, and NUCLEAR weapons. They can defend themselves. Netanyahu is trying to pull America into yet another war we don't need. Att he same time, next to China, and Japan, Israel has some of the largest amounts of money in the US financial system, helping to prop it up, so we have to kiss a little Israeli ass from time to time. Also, they have such a strong voting bloc in America, that US presidents are forced to bend over and take it from that community, otherwise they lose elections, they get labeled as anti-semites or against the Jewish people in some way. But like @Sigmund mentions, the responsibility of the American president, is to the American people. When Israel goes back to the U.N. Mandated borders, then we can start throwing some (more) muscle behind them.
Anyone who views his interview on Meet the Press as politically neutral is looking at the world through rose colored glasses. There is clearly bitterness over Obama's snub to meet, chosing in favor of Campaign speeches, David Letterman, JZ, and 'blaming' a movie.
Romney poses a clear and present danger to the United States:
WHY? there are many reasons, but here are 3:
Mitt Romney is totally devoid of curiosity... This is evident by a statement made by a senior campaign advisor, "the Romney campaign doesn't think it's important to fact check"... AND Romney has never disavowed that statement!
Without curiosity, one cannot learn from past mistakes!
Without curiosity, one can read a blog and decide to use the information (as Romney did for 2 points of his 5 point tax plan)... but, without fact checking and doing some research there is a high probability that the information is incorrect... as was proven by several economists... the math just didn't add up!
Without curiosity, once can jump to conclusions! Romney fanned the flames with his comments about the attacks in Cairo and Libya... before the attacked had even occurred! Again he didn't bother to check the facts!
Without curiosity, one cannot understand the masses! Romney has shown time and again that he is out of touch with everyday Americans... comments like "you people", I like firing people", I'm not that concerned about poor people they have a safety net", and so on... how can he fix the problem if he doesn't do research and check the facts? A Bain Capital presidency will not eliminate proverty, it will increase it!
Romney is easily led by others: A senior military advisor stated "the current middle eastern mess would hot have occurred in a Romney Administration", NO probably not bevcause we would already be at war with Libya... Romney would have followed John McCain's, Lindsey Graham's, Dick Cheney's and John Bolton's directive... put boots on the ground in Libya!
A president who is easily led, and has no curiosity is DANGEROUS!
Mitt Romney is dishonest: how can we trust a president who is a habitual liar, how can we trust a man who chooses to cheat the US by offshoring jobs and his money for the sake of profit, how can we trust a man who panders at every turn for his own self-interest, how can we trust a man who would sell out country to the highest bidder...ANSWER
WE CANNOT TRUST MITT ROMNEY... HE IS A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO OUR COUNTRY!
You should fact check yourself...Don't know where to begin, but see most of your statements and blind party line BS..
I'll pick one- Romney spoke after the attack that killed his ambassador on 911 and after those in Egypt shredded the US flag at his embassy after storming the walls and burning much of the flag, and erected a flag of an Al Q affiliate at OUR embassy...and after we issued an apology...and Obama said or did nothing, had no emergency response after hsi rep in Libya being killed..
Obama waas casual about the whole thing, before Mitt spoke up...and basically forced Obama to...Who is in charge? Seems everybodyfeels free to slander or attack the US these days...And Obama didn't even call a spade a spade and really say how innapropriate or outrageous the movie was, but yet state our free speech...He is not willing to be decisive w anyone, unless it meets his own selfish personal agenda..I know the type..
Curiosity killed the cat. In this case The Amateur King's continuing apology tour will sink his re-election.
@Lisbon,
Romney spoke before any attacks, attributing a statement that was put out by the U.S. Embassy in an attempt to diffuse a dangerous situation to President Obama.
Fact. Check, please...
All this blame game and STILL Romney has offered NO SOLUTIONS, NO FOREIGN POLICY
When will Romney say what HE WOUlD DO?
Romney is an empty suit carrying an empty briefcase
There was NO Apology, why regurgitate same old elephant gas.
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@Lesbian Vice,
You are not veing quite accurate:
1) The so-called apoplogy was issued BEFORE the attack on the Cairo Embassy, not after. It condemned a youtube video clip, conveniently translated into Arabic, that was being shown on Egyptian TV. There was no apology. Mitt lied.
2) The attack in Libya was not at the embassy in Tripli as Romney stated. It was the unopened consulate in Benghazi that was attacked. Obama did not react directly to the consulate destruction because it was not yet US sovereign soil. But well before the deaths were known, Obama had directed Marines to reinforce embassies all over North Africa and in Sudan. Mitt lied.
3) Referring to Obama as a "spade" is blatantly racist and should get you banned forever!!!!!!!!
4) There are people in the world who are so twisted and lacking in basic brainpower that they cannot see anything clearly. You are one of them. They tell lies to try to make non-existent points. I know the type.
So now it is illegal to be racist? You will be banned for being racist, and you get to define racism? Your pc crap is out of control. Maybe you could be banned for being a communist? Obama directed the embassies to be on alert? GREAT JOB
Don't forget that Romney will be taking direction from his church's Council of Elders in Salt L canake City. They can't wait for the day they will be running the country from Utah, deciding policy on everything from social to political to economic issues. Romney will be the sock puppet, the Mormons will be the hand. Easily led, indeed.
julio - it isn't illegal to be racist - just totally stupid and backward.
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That's dumb!!!
Lisbon Vice: You are very wrong. Mitt the Twitt, as he was called by the UK, criticized the President BEFORE there was knowledge of any deaths. Actually while our embassy, therefore, our nation was under attack. Mitt saw this is a possible political and smarmy opportunity to say everything the President does is bad...everything the Republicans do is good. Talk about deliusional. Mitt has been critized for his ill conceived judgement his "shooting first and aiming later" approach to foreign relations and knee jerk reaction, by virtually every news outlet in the world! Except Faux News, of course.
FYI , the President APOLOGIZED TO NO ONE....STOP LYING it's getting tiresome!!!
Vera - you'll find lies are just about all the radical righties have. If they didn't have their lies - they'd have nothing to post!
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Re-read his post. He never called Obama a spade, but you reacted in typical liberal fashion.
I'll copy/paste the line so you don't even have to scroll up to see how wrong you are:
You cannot tell us that you never heard that phrase before, it's origins go back to the 1st century. You just saw "Obama" and "spade" and reacted as you have been programmed to react.
Kind of like how a couple weeks ago, the "fact" of the day was that "Romney wants to bomb Iran!" It was actually Biden that said Romney wants to bomb Iran, but the liberals ran wild with it and put the words directly into Romney's mouth and treated as gospel.
Just because Obama never said the actual words "I'm sorry", does not mean it wasn't an apology. He's nothing more than a Lawyer, and Lawyers are trained to say things without saying them. Hell...it's Obama's strongest quality.
Look Ben N is correct! Obama has deep rooted contempt for Israel he has shown it on numerous occasions. All those who think this conflict will be ground war are Nuts. This will be with all Israel has and likewise with the Arab brotherhood. Wake up and smell the roses. Obama is weak and a paper suit. He rather play golf, party and fly around fund raising then tend to Americas real problems. He does have a major alley .........the Main Street press who twist and turn all his failures into accomplishments. Only one problem most regular Educated Americans aren't Buying.
No brok - educated Americans know the president is not weak and the empty suit is Romney. President Obama has no "deep rooted comtempt" for Israel and has never shown anything to make intelligent people think he does.
Your stupidity is showing - big time!
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I have to put that one in the Obama camp. If this Appeaser-in-Chief gets another 4, we will be dealing with a nuke armed Iran hell bent on the destruction of not only Israel but of America as well.
Obama/Biden 2012 - Preparing America and the world for a Nuke war in the mid-east
Netanyahu is facing reality... he knows who's going to be President for the next four years... and it isn't Romney.
huh? Speak up! I can't hear you.
There is no doubt that liberal, partisan, anti-Israel SOB, David Gregory, is trying to get Bibi to commit to a statement for the benefit of the jew-hater in chief Barack Hussein, to use against Romney. But again, a yiddishe kupf prevails!
L'shana Tova to my fellow Jews, and, as always, NEVER AGAIN!
Here, Here!
reality check by your post your the one with the hate problem.
sonmanvb by your posts you have the same hate problem.
Please spew your hate somewhere else. It might matter to you but your hate doesn't matter to me.
The President a Hater, labeled that because he won't hop to it in a timely fashion, that the President doesn't want to spill American Blood without all avenues explored. The only hate I hear is coming out the far right against the President on totally false premises. We just upped aid to Israel and that was from a Jew Hater, really.
Brok, deep rooted contempt for Israel, prove it, cite unbiased sources, betcha can't.
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Smitty....I will keep my hate right here....directed at the all too many anti semites on this site. Thusly, it should be apparent you comments meant nothing to me.
Are you a putz or what? Why is he giving money to Arab murderers? Its all somke and mirriors, but o the poor sand *******
NEVER AGAIN!
Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Obama, it's time to wake up and smell the global jihad
just remember sonmanvb, where there is smoke there is fire. it takes nothing at all to stir men of the middle east into a pot of boling water.
this action has been brought to you to take the pressure off romney and put it anywhere.
now, lets see what romney and his very wealthy supporters create to get him out of the debates, for as you and i know, if romney shows up he will be crushed.
Son, wake up its time to stop smelling the elephant s it. romney/ryan are bad for continued American Health.
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Romney/Ryan are the only option for health in this country at this point. I, personally, do not want to be living under another year of Obama and his failing "my government" antics. Have you all forgotten that because Arizona had tight immigration laws that Obama stepped in and said change it or 'my government' will do it for you?
Obama is the worst president this country has seen in so many areas it's frightening. You people that search the internet for news articles that work for the Obama administration just to write negative things about Romeny are disgusting. Get a better job! Working for McDonald's would even be better!!
YovGot - you're totally ignorant of what is happening in the real wold. Why don't you get out of Mom's basement for a few hours each day and actually try to catch up.
Mitt Romney has no idea about foreign policy; has no plans for economic recovery in the US and frankly only wants to be President so he can say he did one better than Dad. He doesn't care about this country - just winning
Your ignorance about our President is only overshadowed by your obvious hatred for the man. You're truly a sick person.
Oh and the worst President in the history of the US is and always will be George W. Bush! Bet you voted for him - twice!
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SS, please go take your medicine. Look back at your posts and observe the number of times you have used the words hate, ignorance, hatred, ignorant.
I'm afraid you are the typical liberal Oblama lover. You really should consider counseling.
Cliff is coming
Dear Kidding--we get it; you don't like Obama. But I will not change my vote for him to Romney, for Romney is not better. He is just Bush all over again. At least Bush had some compassion for the poor--Romney has none. Did you see Romney's press release trying to defend his premature comments about the Libyan situation? Stutter, stutter, stutter, scary grimace/inane, clueless smile, lies, etc. He is so out of his league it's not even funny. He totally jumped on that event for political gain, showing that he doesn not have America's best interests at heart--if he even has a heart (it's debatable).
hjack - you are seriously not one to talk to anyone about ignorance. Your hate filled and totally stupid posts reek of your lack of knowledge.
If we are near the edge of the cliff - we have the Republicans in Congress to blame since they have tried their hardest to push us over the cliff - all in their determination to make President Obama a one-term President - to hell with the US. Put your hatred where it belongs - with the stupidity of the Republican party.
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adelson is running this ship, his money speaks loud and clear and the netanyahu is attempting to walk this narrow and slippery line. the mideast is up in arms, using any excuse to attack anyone or any embassy, israel is surrounded and on top of it all, the leader of their greatest ally is taking senseless hits directed by adelson as an attempt to take presure off romney.
the debate is now foriegn policy and simply put the blame on the president to make romney seem to know what he is talking about. israel now has to back track quickly but after the message of fault was placed to be spread through lyin ryan and the rest of the american taliban party.
this is a very dangerous position for the israel leader to put his country and himself.
US successfully illegally invaded Iraq based on lies about WMDs and Netanyahu was promised by McCain that the US would invade Iran for Israel. McCain lost and everyone knows Iran has no WMD's but Israel does have many WMDs. Mitt Romney now promises to use US troops to invade Iran for Israel and yes go it alone. Romney asked for Jewish votes in the election. America will see World War 3 when the US attacks the Middle East as Russia/China will help those countries from an illegal attack. Netanyahu called the current President stupid for not doing as Israel has asked and is now doing his best to get Mitt in office for the US to go to War.
Who does Rmoney think is going to pay for all this? With tax cuts for the rich and raising taxes on the Middle Class is how.
Notice that the majority of you all that talk smack bout Romney are the same ones in each polictical news article. We that will back and vote for Romney because our eyes are not 'wide-shut' don't need to do an 'in-your-face' slam about Obama. His actions have spoken louder than words. There are millions of us out there remaining quiet and will voice our opinion on election day. God help us all! Maybe you all ought to read the book "The Message". It's an eye opener.
thanks, you said it well.
How about we annex some more Arab land to be a homeland for the evangelist bigots that are tearing the US apart. The Arabs already hate us over stealing some land to stick the Jews on, so how about we get rid of the evangelists too. We'll pretend to care about them by feeding them billions to keep their ill-begotten land secure too.
It's all a Arab leaders fault!!!!!!!!! Obama
YuvGot - maybe you should read something educational - you know, not a radical rightwing book but something with actual facts. Then you'd probably be a little more intelligent - maybe not but it's worth a shot!
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England, Israel and who else across the pond are U.S. friends/allies?