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Subscribe to RSSHARRISONBURG, Va. and PAINESVILLE, Ohio -– Moments after the bodies of four American diplomats killed in Libya arrived in the United States, the Republican candidates held separate campaign rallies in two battleground states, where each paid tribute to the fallen Americans.
They also refrained from criticizing President Obama's foreign policy -- for the first time since the current Middle East unrest began.
“In the last few moments, the bodies of four individuals who were killed in the service of our nation were brought back to the United States and welcomed home and placed in hearses. And one of the reasons that we delayed my coming out is I wanted to make sure to have my hand over my heart in recognition of these men and women,” Mitt Romney, the Republican presidential nominee, told a crowd in rainy Painesville, Ohio.
“I'd ask that you might each place your hand over your heart in recognition of the blood shed for freedom by them and by our other sons and daughters who've lost their lives in the cause of America and the cause of liberty," Romney asked the crowd at Lake Erie College.
His running mate, Paul Ryan, also asked those in attendance at the Republican vice presidential nominee’s rally in the Shenandoah Valley, to pause and remember the fallen “heroes.”
“I'd like to ask for a moment of silence for our Ambassador Christopher Stevens, Sean Smith, Glenn Doherty, and Tyrone Woods,” Ryan said. “Let's have a moment of silence in prayer and recognition for these heroes.”
President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had just concluded remarks at Andrew’s Air Force Base, during which the president praised the four fallen Americans as “patriots.”
“They loved this country and they chose to serve it and served it well,” the president said during the Transfer of Bodies ceremony.
The four Americans -- including the U.S. ambassador to Libya -- were killed Tuesday after the U.S. consulate in Benghazi came under attack. Protestors also breached the U.S. embassy in Egypt on Sept. 11
A political firestorm in the United States ensued between the Republican candidates and the White House over handling of the attacks, but for a moment at least today, that battle was muted.
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I find it highly hypocritical for these two diplomatic cowboys to be "honoring" anyone!
After Willard's shoot first, aim later debacle earlier in the week, he should probably just STFU for a change and leave it to the adults!
If Willard's such a foreign policy expert, you would think he could of mentioned the military at least once during his big speech!
He plays his base like a fiddle...
Honoring after dishonoring sounds like another flipidy do da to me.
Willeard and Eddie have no concept of the word honor.
You know, I might could cut Romney some slack if he had said something like:
"We honor the fallen and offer condolences to their families. We'd also like to apologize for our hasty misstatements regarding this horrific incident."...
...but of course he said nothing like that. That would make headlines and make Romney look like an actual human being.
Obama has to send Hillary and/or Bill Clinton out to honor any diplomat, since they are the braintrust behind our Department of State.
Without either of them we'd be in big trouble, since Obama wouldn't know the difference between his big toe and foreign policy.
By the way, still waiting to hear and see what Obama says and does to make the islamic world understand that we will not tolerate violence against American citizens anywhere in the world.
I'm not talking about issueing aplogies here, I'm talking about him making sure these scumbags understand the might of The United States Sovereign Power.
ZMan, have you spoken with Osama bin Laden lately?
President Lead from Behind took 5 minutes out of his busy schedule to make a statement on his way to board Campaign 1 and fly to keep his Beg-a-thon appointments for money and votes ....One would think some precautions prior to the 9/11 Anniversary should have been taken at all these hot spots in the Jihadist World to protect our Citizens -- Oh sure, NOW,...he's moving a few Navy ships and sending 50, count them, 50 Marines off the shores of Tripoli....Yemen and 14 other countries joined the chorus this morning....More US Embassy's are now under attack....The Arab Spring is in full bloom, and we have a blooming idiot for a president.
Looks like the Obama World Apology Tour has expired.
Silicone Sally,
Do you honestly believe anyone pays attention to the @!$%# you spew anymore?
Hardly....Obummer's ramping it up!
And if the libtards on FR didn't Obummer's "Tootsie Roll" in their mouths they'd see that he can't even figure out if Egypt is our friend or not!
What an absolute failure and embarrassment!!
Keep up the great work Harley! You got a fan here!
You obviously do Filthy Carrot-top, you replied. ;) Bwahahaha!
He has to "make sure" of it? Can't he find it otherwise?
Has anyone else seen it?
Are you saying they're rioting BECAUSE we apologized or that we DIDN'T apologize?
Because your hero Mitt Romney thinks we did.
And if we did, why would they riot?
Just wondering, Brainiac.
They just couldn't stop campaigning long enough to honor those killed in Libya with a formal tribute. Hope it wasn't too much of a bother to mention the fallen Americans during their campaign speeches.
Thank you kindly Michael, the more they hate, the better i like it.
Is there a suggestion that Obummer has NOT campaigned since the deaths of Americans?!?!PFFFFT
Birds of a feather. Dodo birds.
Equally extinct.
Ditto....they make it waaaaaaay too easy on this board......that's why I come on here!...LOL....liberal tools!
What do "The Obama World Apology Tour", Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy, The Loch Ness Monster, UFOs, vampires, zombies, werewolves, The Lost City of Atlantis, unicorns, leprechauns, dragons, wizards and Bigfoot all have in common?
None of them ever existed.
Found a place to park you non-existent chubby, did ya? Good for you .. hope you are as thrilled when you find out Silicone Sally will be the one sporting a chubby in that cozy relationship.
This coming from the
gas bagsilicone hag who gets off posting pictures of a tortured Stevens...And YOU want to accuse someone else of hate?
Now, now....don't get upset and take it out on others because your boi can't figure out which end of the basketball court all of the grown-ups are at taking care of business!
Hey Feisty DumbFux......I'll put a Jackson in your PayPal account if you post your pic......that way you can buy a pack of Kools and a 40.....after all, the 1st of the month is a long way off!
Gas Bag...lmao....kettle-pot
Obama has been MIA at the Intelligence briefings before the attacks happened and he was a no show AFTER the attacks too.. Just like he's skipped out on meeting with his jobs council. He does not care, his head is no longer in the game. His only priority is getting re-elected at any cost.
Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood have aligned them self with the Democratic party, and all we hear is crickets from the MSM. Please take a minute to watch this very informative video & share it with like minded Patriots. You won't see this anywhere in the MSM.
http://youtu.be/Ip4t0is1_Eo
Reading comprehension issues? No such thing was hinted or suggested. At least Obama wasn't on the campaign trail as he honored the murdered victims.
I see the trolls are back. I wonder what those RWNJ trolls who don't approve of how President Obama is handling the problem in Egypt etc. would rather he do. Would they want WWIII or simply punish an entire nation or over 1 million Muslims for the actions of a band of thugs. Which is it?
More sources with the credibility of each of your falsie implants.
The view is good from the cheap seats.
My apologies, you are correct....Obummer DID in fact take 5 minutes away from campaigning to grieve for his f*ck-up!
I read this exact same drivel on another thread.
Are you practicing the Republican mantra that if you say a thing enough times it becomes true?
Because it isn't working.
And hey, look what attending his briefings did for George W. Bush. He was able to prevent those A-rabs from blowing up those aero- ... what? ... he didn't prevent it? ... never mind.
Harley Chic - "the more they hate, the better I like it." You are such a demented excuse for a person I'm sure you feel that way. And, considering the filth you post, I'm sure you're in little piggy heaven filled with hate. You are the lowest of the low. You have no honor and show no class. You really are a biker broad - and it shows!
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ReekingInsanity - I thought you had me on ignore? LMAOOOOOOO! You Fake!
Get back on your street corner, it's happy hour :P
Harley - you can't even come up with an original thought. The street corners and back alleys are definitely your style -if you can call your dumpster diving "style." You stoop lower and lower every day - no surprise. You clearly don't have the values of a gutter rat!
LOL...Too Funny!
This may go some way toward debunking Harley Chic's hate-filled video insinuating that the President sent money to Egypt to benefit the Muslim Brotherhood.
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-administration-sends-13-billion-in-aid-to-egypt-2012-7
Folks, pay attention. Harley Chic is a fine example of where immersing your soul in ignorance and hatred gets you.
We were paying FOR security against the sort of thing that just happened.
I wonder how much security the embassy would have had if the President had not authorized that aid.
For all you know, Harley Chic, that check may have saved American lives.
But you don't really care about that, now do ya?
Having once had the luxury of owning and riding a Harley, I can just say that none of the women I rode with were like this! We organized so many charity runs and constantly worked to support many different causes. Harley Chic is NOTHING like a true biker.
Anna - you're talking to someone who is devoid of rational thought. I just put her on ignore. She is so hate filled she is beyond help. The radical right ignorance she posts is beyond reprehensible. And she posts more and more stupidity every day!
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To truly honor the military give them the resources they need and let them do their job.
Marines with empty weapons and don't shoot for fear of hurting someone is making people laugh at us.
BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA...FAILED LEADERSHIP...
This JUST in for Spanky and JoAnna and the gang --
A Dane County Wisconsin judge just struck down in its entirety the law that destroyed Wisconsin public employees' collective bargaining rights.
And NOW the fun really begins.
http://www.channel3000.com/news/Judge-strikes-down-Wis-law-limiting-union-rights/-/1648/16610408/-/112crw0z/-/index.html
"Would they want WWIII or simply punish an entire nation or over 1 million Muslims for the actions of a band of thugs. Which is it?"
The answer is:
a) Yes -and -
b) They don't care, as long as it's not whatever their President does.
Edit to add to Anna Molly - Look out for exploding heads!
Frankly, JoAnne, even I'm stunned by this. Holy cow.
But we do have to remember who controls the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
Since the decision was made under federal law, I wonder whether this will now end up in federal court, where the result may very well be more favorable.
But this ought to make the national news, anyway, and put a little bit of egg on our smug governor's face.
Have a great weekend.
This is not a band of thugs.
It is too widespread and too organized to think it is individuals acting alone.
The sound of American Jets will bring understanding.
BARRACK OBAMA...FAILED LEADERSHIP...
Not all conservatives disgust me but there are some here who certainly do and there are many GOP legislators who have sullied the very word patriot today with their wild-eyed, irresponsible remarks. What happened is a tragedy, one would think that at least GOP legislators could step back and be statesman. On 9/11, we ALL came together; we put aside politics. Yet today, republican legislators, Mitt Romney, conservative posters take cheap shots at President Obama, take a horrible event that cost the lives of 4 public servants dedicated to America and turn it into some disgusting political game of finger-pointing--not because they love this country but because they cannot find any sense of compassion in their hard-ideological hearts. For the right, this tragedy is just fair game, just one more way to try to win an election for their side. How dispicable, the right led by Mitt Romney has stooped to a new level of low.
Whether it is Michael 1969, or Harley Chic disrespecting the family of Christopher Stevens by linking photos of his last hours found somewhere because she looked, or Old Fat Guy giving the right-wing battle cry; whether it is Romney still telling lies, or McCain beating the drums of war. It is simply more proof that the GOP has lost all sense of citizenship, all sense of patriotism, all sense of what is and is not appropriate and most of all they have lost all sense of respect in times of sorrow and tragedy--for the right, it is all about winning, nothing more and nothing less.
Anna Molly -
We'll see how it plays out. I always enjoy your "boots on the ground" reports from Wisconsin, so in return, here's one from Pennsylvania. Some interesting trivia on the PA voter ID case, which is being appealed this week at the state Supreme Court. It'll be decided by six judges, three of whom are Democrats and three Republicans. In the event of a split decision (golly gee, what are the odds???) the lower court ruling stands and that's the end of that. What's interesting is that maybe the only reason we have any chance at all is that the seventh judge, Joan Orie Melvin - another Republican - has been suspended and is awaiting trial on charges of forcing her former court staff to do political campaign work for her. Her sister Janine - one of her former staffers - is also being charged in the same case. And their OTHER sister, Jane, a former state senator, has already been convicted and is currently serving 2 and a half to 10 years in prison for the same thing. Nice family, huh?
You have a great weekend too!
Jody, Iowa.....
Your president Obummer props up the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, a known terrorist organization, the animals freak on the 11th aniversary of 9/11/01, and the conservative Americans are unpatriotic????
Put Bev and Feisty's crack pipe down babe! It's f*cking up your mind!
Obama - The American Muslim Sympathizer
PS.....the muslims are so ignorant, the vast majority do not even know why Americans are in Afghanistan!
Anna Molly,
That is tasty news! Keep us posted & have a great weekend!
@ JoAnne --
LoL That is hilarious. Pennsylvania sounds like fun. I'm envious. Here, we just have the Fitzgerald crime family, which is in charge of the State Assembly and the State Patrol and used to be the State Senate. Can't compare with the Weird Sisters. But, on the bright side, we do have a justice who choked his progressive colleague and apparently is going to get away with it because the review board is stacked with Republicans.
@ Feisty --
Will do. You have a great weekend, too. Sorry about the Bears. Well, actually ... ;-)
I knew you couldn't resist! ;op
I'm not into pain, so I had to switch over to Lawrence O...
LMAOOOOOOO....what a hack!
And how will that demonstrate failed leadership?
Or do you actually have some idea that Romney will win?
And when he bombs Libya, what do you suppose Iran will do?
Be careful what you wish for.
Some of the comments Harley Chick makes reminds me of Easy Rider; you know the last part she is the guy(haha) in the pick up truck.
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Hey Hardly Chick;
Show us your "before" picture. You know. Before you had that operation in Sweden.
Sweden?
This broads botched boob job came from a Doc in the Box!
Jody: Not all conservatives disgust me That is a very good point, and some of those old fashion conservatives are getting disgusted with the teabaggers.
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Hey Fat Man - organized by who? Netanyahoo, Adelson, or worse, Romney? Sounds like something your team would stoop to in order to win an election.
There you go again talking out your tush. I live in a community with the largest Afghan population outisde Afghanistan and believe me they know why we are there and they support our efforts agaisnt the Taliban. They have friends and relatives still over there and those folks also know why we are there. So now who is the ignorant one?
Listen all, don't be to hard on harley, she's tired from pulling the train, she needs a shower and nap.
Shady, we are going to listen to the German's seriously, the same crowd that burned up some Turks in an arson set Apt. fire? I don't think so, and what is romney going to do, nuke'em. Absurd.
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CHOOO CHOOO! Harley loves her good & plenty! lol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2035160/Most-Afghans-know-9-11-according-disturbing-poll.html
I know a douche will never admit when they're wrong, however, I have posted the link backing up my statement because I realize how lazy the liberals are!
......and this from a liberal rag such as the Daily Mail!!
Anna...
Remember what the sound of Reagan's jets did for Gaddafi ?
Standing up to bullies is step one to winning, they only kick us because they have nothing to fear.
As for Iran, this president is allowing them to get four years closer to a nuclear bomb and nothing will stop them from using it on someone and then where you gonna be?
BARRACK OBAMA...FAILED LEADERSHIP...
All the slime on here knows that Obama is one useless ass of a man and worse than that of a president. Everything he did was wrong and now he has blood on his hands. I believe this should wake up the American people to his incompetence. I hope all the Jews wake up as well as they see their homeland -- the homeland of our God -- facing annihilation at the hands of our Muslim in chief.
Poor Mikey...nature can be so cruel, right?
http://www.fubar.com/michael1969/photo-3042466-0-2301561262
Hey, your mom still trim that neat goatee of yours?
Sure she does...right after she's done washing your dirty underwear, right?
Yeah, I'm right.
Feisty Red Head...please don't associate Nitt-Witt Mitt RoMONEY and Lyin' Ryan with "Cowboys." Those two "Bobble-Heads" are not of the same thread as cowboys. They have NO IRON. They are nothing but pinheads graveling for anything to hang on to. Those two have zilch experience in "Foreign Policy." They have thrust themselves into the "Political Sea" and no one (not even their own Party) wants to throw them a life preserver. Every time they open their mouths, they just suck in more "BP Oil Spill" water. Someone ought to "pump" them--they'd be rich with spewed crap!
RoMONEY and Lyin' Ryan said, "All hell is breaking loose in the Middle East." NO...all hell breaking loose is all the lives lost in 9/11, Iraq and Afghanistan.
If Jeb Bush didn't "fix" the 2000 Election, Al Gore would have won. And if Al Gore was President, 9/11 would NOT have happened. And if 9/11 wouldn't have happened, WE would not have gone to war (in the wrong country.) And if we had not gone to war, the deficit would have been on schedule to be "balanced" by 2012--by NOW.
The only people who should be "housed" in Guantanamo should be: Bush (Dubya), Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove and Libby.
Yes. Pan Am Flight 103.
You mean like September 11?
Will it matter? We'll all be dead. If not that day, then soon thereafter from nuclear winter.
Which is why the threat is mightier than the bomb. Russia knew this, too.
Pakistan still has all of its nukes, even though they're crazy there, too.
Reagan's jets? Didn't know he owned any. And besides, under Ronnie's watch, didn't 280 Marines get killed in Beirut? What did St. Ronald do? He pulled out of there and let the place go to hell. Yeah, talk about failed leadership. You wouldn't know a good leader if it bit you in the a$$. You dopeheads just love your sabre rattlers, don't you? Makes you feel like your a tough guy. Well how about this, fat man. If you and your militia type buddies hate Arabs so much, why don't you get together and go over there and take care of them and let our over used and over abused soldiers deployed come home and resume a normal life.
What I have gotten from #1 thread here.
Liberals LOVE the name calling and smearing (for example piling on Harley Chick)
And they blindly follow a mediocre leader.
Funny how when Romney's taking heat for his many screw ups his right wing defenders always try to deflect with it's the economy stupid but as soon as they think they can make points against Obama with any other issue they jump on the band wagon. No single building in a foreign city can be made impregnable against thousands of attackers, it's up to the foreign country to provide protection. If they aren't willing to do what it takes we should leave.
Your hero Reagan cut and ran when almost 300 Americans were killed in a bomb blast or did you forget? The embassy hostages were released because Reagan promised them parts for their American weapons purchased under the Shah that they couldn't legally buy. Popping a few antiquated aircraft is one thing boots on the ground another.
Well, at least they both had a moment of good sense. I was beginning to wonder if either had even a shred of decency.
Neither one of them has any decency Jody. This is just for show.
Romney lies. Ryan makes me sick to my stomach. And, I am not a Democrat, I am more akin to being a Libertarian. I choke when I say that Obama is your best choice for President. But, it is almost true. As long as people feel the need to vote for either of these parties, he is your best choice. I, myself, keep hoping that people will change (en mass). Vote for real change, vote for a party other than Democrat or Republican.
Mitt's initial comments about diplomats' death were EXTREMELY INAPPROPRIATE.
bad judgment. How can we trust him (- Mitt).
For those, (particularly the reporters on this site), who buy the Obama administration baloney about the lack of intelligence about these attacks
http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=284684
Read the dateline. That's right. It was published hours BEFORE the embassy was attacked.
Are they prescient? Or do you suppose there actually was intelligence that Obama simply ignored.
Since I do not believe in the paranormal, my money's on the latter.
One of you journalists might want to bring it up at the next press conference- provided there is one, and you are allowed to ask the question.
HAHAHAHA!
The old broad found a new bone to chew on! lmao
This is a reputable news source HOW again?
Say Snooks, tell us again how rape disrupts ovulation again, it's one of our favorite bull@!$%# stories of yours!
Go take a nap and leave the discussion to those who don't have to rely on pathological lies!
Earlier today I was sorry to read of the passing of Phinephancy.
I was rooting for her remission, but I guess the higher being had other plans.
She was a nice lady, and a moderating voice here.
Gonna miss having her around, and I hope her soul knows eternal peace.
Feisty - no joe didn't REALLY say rape interrupts ovulation, did she?????? OMG - what a moron! Is she related to Akin???? Sheish - just when you think the GOP can't get any dumber - it does!!!!
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Then what did the Libyan and Egyptian Governments do to ensure the embassies were protected? You do know embassy protection is up to the hosting country, right NJBJ?
Girlfriend... OH yes she did, read it in it's entirety;
This coming from the dingbat who expects us to take her claim of having a PHD... seriously! lmao
What a Dumb @!$%#!
Oh good one dumbass. Go ahead and trust our diplomats and citizens to the hosting country. IDIOT. But along that lines, when Obama visits another country let's rely on that country -- let's say Afghanistan -- to protect him. Let all in the country know where he is staying and what his itinerary will be. Then lets see if he is tortured and sodomized in the streets before he is killed.
Ben, whats wrong with you, when America opens an Embassy it is up to the Host country to provide over-all security, what do you want 1,000 or so Marines guarding the Embassy, if that were the case then every other country would be entitled to surround their Embassies, here in the US with their private armies, Embassies are supposed to be honored sovereign extensions of their countries. OK lets just shoot demonstrators and even those that crawl over the walls and see what happens, moron.
Anymore posts like this one, even hinting of sodomizing, torturing, killing the President fantasy, I am going to report your post as inflammatory and have your ass out of here. Be civil and voice your opinion but when it comes to what you just fantasized is unacceptable. Nasty useless mutt.
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Hi Jody, Feisty, Red, Seeking and the others! <waves> I was so sorry to read about the passing of Phine this morning. She truly was a voice of reason in this crazy world! I salute your flying the flamingo avatars in her honor.
Michael, I ask again, don't you have a militia weekend to prepare for? Something about cleaning your little 22 caliber gun.
Skyparrot- there is, actually, a Marine contingent trained and utilized to protect our Embassies. Obama does not bother to deploy them when necessary,mpreferring, instead, to rely on the adulation of a world that worships him as he does himself.
Don't believe it?
That was Obama on November 21,2007, on New Hampshire Public Radio.
You are seeing the results of that particular narcissism.
Who is Secretary of State, no jo? Why (GASP) your crush Hillary! You going to cast blame on her, or just the black, Democratic President?
Anyone who desires to understand just how high this foreign policy disaster ranks with Obama needs only to look to one thing-
On the day our Libyan ambassador and three others were killed, Obama jetted off to Vegas for a fundraiser.
Enough said.
Answer the question, no jo: I know you read my posts.
[Answer the question, no jo...]
She can't...
She won't...
NoJo the liar just doesn't like black people.
[...the lack of intelligence...]
You got that right, NoJo...you are lacking in the brains department.
PhD my ass...another lie.
It is a little late for you to be honoring the deaths of those whom you tried to profit from by scoring cheap partisan political points. I'm glad you will never be commander in chief as you probably would take the Larry Kudlow approach to foreign policy. That approach is that it iis OK to start a war if it makes the stock market go up.
Yes...he honors those who died...but only after he disrespects them by using them as pawns in his game of political one-upsmanship. How magnanimous of him.
How anyone could think Mitt Romney is fit to be President let alone putting Ryan a heartbeat away from the office is not paying attention. BTW--what is the immigration status of the person responsible for the film that has turned the world upsidedown? Bet they'd REALLY welcome him home in Egypt.
They probably got a phone call from their bosses Adelson and the Koch brothers who informed the dunce duo that their numbers were slipping and to shut their traps! The average person would have corked it after the first FACT appeared. Not these two .... And why again are you voting for them repubs????
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I'm reminded of those ribbon magnet things that people put on their cars - support the troops, support breast cancer research, support the local peewee football team, etc. They're kind of running out of colors anymore. But the company I get my bumper stickers from was once testing one that was just plain white - with the words "Empty Gesture" on it in beautiful flowing script. I'm still sorry I didn't get one.
I wish Romney and Ryan had made their own empty gestures a little earlier in the week instead of trying to divide the country even more than we already are.
Sorry, guys - too little, too late.....
i would like to know why msnbc i not reporting that obama did go his intel briefing the day after our embassies were attacked???
Such an embarassing episode for the Republik Party...
Romney is a sociopath and as such doesn't really give a rat's patootie about the fallen diplomats. If it doesn't give him what he wants he isn't interested. His handlers told Willard what to say so as to not get in any more trouble. Ryan does have a heart but he has to be careful not to oppose his running mate so the fact that he said something nice without the pot shots is a good thing.
Those in charge are doing what they need to do. They have expert advisers who have advised presidents of both parties on the protocols and the sort of things to say. IF, I doubt he will, but IF Romney gets in the big chair he will have the same advisers and will look good saying just the right things and doing the right things to try and defuse the situation. I am glad to see that the Libyan people are not supporting the mob that took down our diplomats.
Adler - agreed. He only wants to win the Presidency to do "one better than his father." What a pathetic excuse for a man.
And, the Republican party could have run Huntsman who has integrity and honor. Of course that's exactly why they didn't run him. He is far too good to be a Republican. My hope is he'll come to his senses and become and Independent. He can and has done so much for the country.
I think President Obama could appoint him to another ambassadorship in his 2nd term. He really is a great representative for the country.
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Agreed, there is something wrong with Willard. ..
Where are the mental health professionals....betcha they've analyzed Willard and his behavior....but unfortunately we will never know!
Three blind and fu%%ing stupid rats.
shut ben, go home, your just a click in being dumped.
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skyparrot,
Ben has gone round the bend....
but I really appreciate you calling him on his ranting posts.
ooopsie Mitt....even your base is turning against you!
Bryan Fischer, of the American Family Association, a conservative Christian group, slammed Mitt Romney on Friday for running a “lackluster campaign” void of any ideas and accused the campaign of “putting a bag over” vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan’s head.
“Mitt Romney right now should be leading by 10 or 15 points and the fact that he’s not is Mitt Romney’s problem,” Fischer told reporters at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C. “It’s because he’s running such a lackluster campaign that has been so vague on ideas. What plan is he offering the American people?”
Conservatives are becoming cowards. They should be shouting from the roof tops support for their candidate. It's okay to be successful - in fact, we want everyone to be. Governor Romney's comments on the travesty in Libya were not out of line - in fact the White House agreed with what he said after he said it (except the part about the President's failed policies- true but probably ill timed). 5% unemployment and economic growth during the first 6 years of President Bush's administration was a good thing.
And while intricate details of his plan might be nice - the role of the President is to set an agenda and then have Congress figure out how to get it done. President Obama certainly hasn't been very specific about his intentions.
Bryan Fischer may have succumbed to believing everything he reads in the news. Romney is up against a left leaning media. Getting his message out - and he actually does have one --- isn't easy.
Candice, what romney does he does to himself, what's in his head falls out of his mouth. What kind of Presidential job applicant makes asinine comments without first getting all the facts, what will happen if he got elected, push that red button and then say oops. He is unfit for the job.
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Dragon - Mittens has no plan, just "trust me". His trustworthiness factor wains with each passing lie. His support in the all important swing states (especially Ohio) slips with each passing day! I love the smell of GOPer desperation in the morning, or evening as the case may be!
These two Chicken Hawks only Honor the dead when it's convenient for their election. If they are in the White House, there will be more wars, more dead, more debt.
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What happened in Honoring these heroes yesterday, mitt blames the lack of a moment of silence on a heckler, really. A true narcissist, the overweening arrogance.
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Typical low brow responses from the haters on the left who honor nothing but themselves and their messiah.
Speaking of the Obama administration and being low brow. They continue to either be in denial or are just falling back on Obama's go to solution....lying. I believe it's a little of both.
He sent his chief propagandist and Gibbs protege in front of the lapdog media to proclaim that muslims still love Obama and the protests are not against him or the USA. He made this proclamation apparently ignorant of the fact they were burning Obama in effigy. The attacks on America which have spread over half the globe is because of a 13 minute 51 second movie; which, even with all the free publicity as of late, has only been viewed a little over a million times since it's been on YouTube. King O tells us that is the root of all of our woes. It is not enough to break campaigning for. He is far more important than America. Like most in America who lean left, he is a deluded joke.
The Muslim Brotherhood, Iran, and Al Qeada are testing him and have found him weak. The Iranians have seen this before and know what to expect.
As the Egyptian illiterates prepared to storm the embassy, egged on by the state and al qeada operatives, they were chanting "Obama,Obama, there are a billion Osamas".
The Muslim Brotherhood, Iran, and Al Qeada have declared war on America and will not stop until they drive us out of land controlled by Islam or we flex our muscle and end the abuse.
To do so we need to get rid of the Appeaser Administration.
Conservative Rebellion - when you talk about a deluded joke you should do that facing the mirror. You and your ilk are totally demented and thrilled to show how totally ignorant you are by shouting your stupidity at the top of your lungs.
The people found to be weak and weak minded are the radical righties like youself; Romney; Ryan. The fact that you don't have a clue about what is going on is really sad. But, it is not unexpected
Please crawl back under your rock. Your skin is drying out and you're really beginning to look awful!
Obama/Biden 2012
Maybe, but Osama bin Laden, Quaddafi and Hosni Mubarek,......not so much.
Never send a Repub to do a man's job.
Obama/Biden 2012
You poor bastards are about to be murdered in November!!
Intel from my sources in Michigan's Democratic Party say that we are polling ahead in 51 Congressional races. We only need 23 to take control.
You poor saps are about to be massacred.
Like I said you are like Bruce Willis in that ghost movie. You have no idea you're dead yet.
Cons, sure let's just nuke'em, that will teach them, half a continent of glass sheeting, wrong, so what do you propose we do, we live in a globall environment, can't build a wall, stuff like this is going to happen. Did you know that 10 Libyans lost their lives trying to defend the embassy. Beyond comprehension your reasoning, try the following on for size:
Markos/DailyKos:
Donald Rumsfeld: The attacks on our embassies & diplomats are a result of perceived American weakness. Mitt Romney is right to point that out. — @RumsfeldOffice via Twitter for iPhone
Donald Rumsfeld was Secretary of
WarDefense between 2001 and 2006, so none of this should be news to him:June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.
February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Truck bomb kills 17.
February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.
July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
Suicide bomber kills two.
December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.
March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomat directly targeted by the assailants.
Ronnie Reagan: Beirut, over 250 Marines Killed, Iran Contra, arms for hostages. USS Cole, 17 Killed, Bush, 9/11 3000 people slaughtered of all nationalities ignored warnings, nearly 5,000 Americans Body Bagged in a bogus War, 11 years of war started by Bush. Your argument is spurious at best.
Obama 2012
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Kindergarteners or Democrats should not be considered "intel".
Another fool actrually cited the Dailykos. LOL. Since you're intent on bringing up the past, where are the Clintononian episodes? Somalia? USS cole? Failure to kill bin Laden? WTC bombings? etc,etc.etc?
Last I checked, our embassies are considered United States soil. Our embassies are under what appears to be coordinated attacks in Cario, Lebanon, Sudan and Tanzania. Did I miss the discussion about the depth and severity of these acts?
You didn't miss it. The subject is "isn't it terrible that Romney and Ryan dare to being up the abject failures of Obama's foreign policy".
Hell, they will not even bring up the outrage of Obama jetting off to Vegas the day of the attacks. (try to imagine the howling if he were a Republican. Now, think how you and I would be joining in.)
We are just to sit here and believe with all our hearts that the fact that these attacks occurred in 9/11 is a pure coincidence.
That Obama missing 2/3s of his intelligence briefings means nothing at all.
That the world LOVES Obama- really- but all thesis the result of some lame, amateur video that nobody ever heard of- but that has been out there since July, with no notice.
So, therefore, putting our Ambassador and staff in a building protected by nothing but a door lock was a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
I used to be a liberal- Jimmy Carter cured me. Seems I have this habit of thinking for myself.
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Yeah, that's why you supported Hillary Clinton, right you lying bag of crap?
How's that big fat teacher's pension chech working for you NoJo?
Hypocrite.
Snooki - That Obama missing 2/3s of his intelligence briefings means nothing at all.
Continuing to lie to yourself is a sign of a delusional mind. You were corrected on this lie in particular earlier today. Repeating it does not make it true. Opps, I forgot you follow the Karl Marx Rove playbook!
You do comprehend the difference between reading a sheet of paper, and attending a briefing, do you not?
No?
Well, let me explain- when a president is briefed, he can ask questions, prod, explore all the nuances, and otherwise engage the briefer.
Obama cannot do that with a sheet of paper.
Now, I understand that Obama believes that all of that is unnecessary; that the brilliance of his own mind is sufficient for him to fully comprehend any and everything involved in these intelligence reports.
And, look! We are witnessing the proof of that thesis!
Obama's narcissism is the worst enemy .of his administration. Those of you who continue to believe in his brilliance are delusional. Limping GDP, soaring debt, incredibly high unemployment kept artificially low by dumping millions out of the labor force- and, no, it is not because baby boomers are retiring; their employment levels are at the highest level since measurements began in 1948. It's because younger workers have not entered the workforce, or have dropped out- and a foreign policy so incoherent that the Middle East is in flames and anti-Americanism is at an all time high.
That's Obama's success story.
no joe, no bo, nj
Ever hear of a telephone NoJo?
You should start your own show:
"The NoJo Liar Show"
A new lie with every post, and whatever other crap you can cut and paste from bull@!$%# emails youget.
You disgust me, NoJo...
Get real. Obama believes he knows more than anyone about any subject, and has stated as much.
You are witnessing the results of his narcissistic view of the world.
Happy with it?
no joe, no bo, nj
There is zero happening other than Obama's successes in eliminating terrorists that can be placed at his feet. Look to your fellow Islamaphobes for the rest.
Ring... Ring...
Snookie has never upgraded from the Progresso soup can lines...
I have no intention of attempting to penetrate the Obama fog that clouds your brain- but, for those who read, but do not post. . .
The Jerusalem Post had a story in their paper- published early in the morning of September 11, 2012-which I linked to, above- that stated that there was a credible threat against our, and their, embassies in Cairo.
I do not think they are psychic. I think Obama is out to lunch.
Obama has adopted a strategy that is akin to a video game- targets are identified, and he pulls the "kill switch"- obliterating anyone on the "enemies list". There are two problems with this method-
1. Lack of proof, to say nothing of the harm that comes to innocents who may be with said targets- women, children, other innocent bystanders.
2. When you simply obliterate a terrorist, your options regarding gleaning intel from them are nil. Now, I realize that Obama thinks that obliteration is vastly preferable to dunking- I cannot even begin to argue with that illogic- but he has negated the possibility to gain intel with every "hit" he makes.
Moreover, even were intel gained, Obama would not know about it- because he cannot be bothered.
I ask those who are fair minded to consider the priorities of a man who would take off for Vegas on the very day our Libyan ambassador, and three others, were slaughtered.
Tells me all I need to know.
Poor NoJo...she chose the wrong profession. Instead of teaching, she could have secured a position with the Bush Administration as a Foreign Policy Analyst...it seems YOU have all the answers, right?
Sure you do.
Now go cash that NJ teachers pension check, hypocrite.
When you obliterate a leader and planner of a terrorist organization you disrupt future attacks and throw fear into the remaining leaders. The logic against torture may evade you but it's called civilized behavior and honoring an agreement that we've made and honored called the Geneva convention until Bush. Unless you consider invading Pakistan obviously capturing these people aren't an option. You simply take which ever side you think makes Obama look bad. If Bush was president you'd praise him for taking out so many leaders.
Your concern for the few innocents who might be killed when taking out these terrorist heads is touching however supporting those that go in looking for imaginary WMD and killing 100's of thousands in that quest your concern is nothing but another right wing talking point. You're hardly the party concerned with killing innocents. I'll take Obama's method over yours.
CR- George W. said: I don,t think about Bin Ladin anymore.
Mittens said: It's not worth moving heaven and earth, to find "one person."
Seems you repukes aren't doing so well.
I can only reply that under W, after being attacked, we did the attacking and very successfully. No coordinated attacks on multiple embassies worldwide.
I'm hoping Obama has a plan. But, judging from the administration's overall disasterous foreign policy and the response to the recent attacks on America, I'm skeptical to say the least.
The "repukes" are not in charge my friend. Unless you think that somehow (gasp!) they are sabotaging our fearful droner-in-chief.
Seems George and Mitt's comments were right on. Bin Laden is gone, yet thousands of radicals are still storming our embassies, killing our people, and hating our country. Go figure.
If you, President Obama and V.P. Biden really thought after eliminating one leader, others wouldn't pop up, they were obviously wrong.
eye2eye-3869672 - You're just repeating another lie from the Obama Propaganda Machine
According to http://factcheck.org/2012/09/democratic-disinformation-from-charlotte/ Vice President Biden quoted GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney as saying “it’s not worth moving heaven and earth” to catch Osama bin Laden. Actually, Romney said he’d target more than just “one person.”
Conservative Rebellion
I can only reply that under W, after being attacked, we did the attacking and very successfully.
Holy - How did that Tora Bora debacle work out for you? Rumsfeld did a great job there! Left the back door wide open. Bin Laden just turned tail and ran off to Pakistan and good old boy W, decided he didn't matter any more! Pathetic!
The Tora Bora episode was based on logisitics and the need to trust our "allies". It didn't work as hoped. You have no point to argue except the fact that you are lite on facts.
The left only make themselves look even more foolish when they post such idiocy as "good old bot W decided he didn't matter any more!"
Con Reb - Lite on facts? I suggest you watch the Frontline documentary on the Tora Bora debacle. It was a political infighting between Rumsfeld and the CIA director at that time that left the back door open. Rumsfeld refused to help because he didn't have the lead in the operation. Our "allies" were few and far between in the field at that time. Your boy W. screwed the pooch on the Bin Laden issue, President Obama closed that book. You GOPers can't accept the truth. Quit the deflection and accept the facts. It is you who is the foolish one!
Conservative R.---You say that Al Qeada is testing our President and they see him as weak?
I wonder what they thought of George W. Bush after 9/11?
Just when I thought you guys couldn't sound more desperate, you prove me wrong again.
My guess is they thought,"OH SH*T!" considering they went into hiding and stayed on the run as they were killed by the tens of thousands.
It would appear they waited until W could no longer hold office anymore and apparently have regained strength since the second coming of Carter.
I would imagine this coordinated attack was planned for some time to coincide with the 9-11 anniversary, to assume the date was a coincidence is far fetched. When Al'Queda wanted to get our attention when Bush was president they killed 3000 the best they could do this 9-11 was kill 4. Seems like they've been defanged.
First of all, I want to comment on the regular posters here on FR who changed their avatars to honor the memory of Phinephancy. She really didn't lose the battle. She lives on in everyone's heart. You do her proud by flying her flagship. Simply wonderful.
I watched the ceremony at Andrews Air force base to honor the fallen members of the US embassy in Libyia. These heros gave up their lives as honorable as any soldier on the battlefield. They died serving their country.
It is just inconceivable that their deaths would be politicized. Romney and Ryan represent the lowest form of politics beyond my memory. Every ploy these two mental migets apply seems so callous and anti-American.
Yet, a truly ignorant base supports their every misstep. It's just unbelievable how an ideology can morph into an "idiotogy". It escapes reason. Hatred plays a big role here. It clouds common sense.
Why would ANY American want to replace their CIC with an AHIC??
Why would ANY American want to replace an historical president with an hysterical lackey?
Why would ANY American want to replace a president WITH a strong character with some who IS a character?
Why would any American want to be on the wrong side of history and have to tell their children and grand-children that they couldn't tell the difference?
Thank you so much for your thoughts...
I also ♥ the rest of your comment!
RIP Phine
Though I only knew you here on the vine you were always gracious
May you be blessed enough that your light shines and you are remembered thru your family and friends who knew you well and loved you.
I raise my glass and propose a toast
this one is for you
Tom - what a wonderful post. Phine would be so pleased.
And, Conservative Rebellion - we totally disagree on politics but I voted you up for the Phine post!
I always enjoyed Phine's posts. She will be missed. May her soul be at peace.
Maybe she can talk to the Big Guy and see what he can do to assure Democrats win in November. Just to be on the safe side. It can't hurt.
I always enjoyed Phine as well. However, several months ago, she started to try to see the middle and posted some things in talking with me that I said that she better be careful or she would be excommunicated from the lefty club. She replied she already had. and HYPOCRITE Feisty responded that she was the one that excommunicated herself. RIP Phine and I know Feisty will sleep well since she is Obama-like who slept as our ambassador was being tortured and killed.
@Tom -- You are a fricking idiot. It was today's ceremony that was a political display of our fallen with Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest in attendance. Followed by thunder thighs mentioning the movie again. What a group of morons.
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I can assure that when it came to Feisty and Phine, you have no idea what you are talking about and even less when it comes to Phine's thought processes over the past several months. I do, so STFU.
BCWC - Ben numbers is really worth ignoring. Its great, you should try it!
I am so sorry, didn't know she crossed, sorry for her family. I do remember her posts and agreeing with her, my kind of woman.
Ben, your just a click away from being dumped, go home.
Obama 2012
Stop it already! I put Ben on ignore long ago. Same with Harley Chic, Michael###, Caesar, GermanJim, and others. If everybody just put the idiots/trolls on ignore, maybe we could start to have some real discussions!
Hiya Holy Handgrenade!
*waves*
All I can say is thank you Jaysus for allowing the ignore author feature to function again!
Little Bennie just can't cool his jets...
CoinFl makes a point I have wanted to make for a long time. We allow these threads to be derailed by people who are not here to discuss issues, but merely to insult and degrade other posters. CoinFl mentions some of the worst offenders, I add Concern to that list.
Please quit feeding trolls on FR. The discussions we used to have are gone, replaced by first grade insults. Time to get back to important issues.
CoinFl: check your friend's list.
Liberals mourn when others are killed when we are attacked. Conservatives pretend to mourn so they can blame liberals for doing too few attacks to keep these heathens in line. Maybe if Romney's elected he'll invade Iran, Egypt and Libya killing a few million in the process so these things don't happen.
Saw the headline and, considering the nature of the event was to honor our dead, stopped by to see if the uber left would not spew.
As it turns out...spew away, ladies, spew away.
And God Bless Phancy, she was often the sole voice of reason.
Republicans have called for a National African-American Museum. The plan is being
held up by finding a location that isn't in their neighborhood.
Just like mosques and Sikh temples!
Better than yesterday when he said "I wanted to ask for a moment of silence; but, there's a man who doesn't want to be silent so we'll just go on."........
Republican values begin at conception, and end at birth.
Are you ready for this?
Romney says he fears that in the debates Obama will not be honest.
This coming from a man who lied about his name during the primaries!
Most voters think President Barack Obama will have an advantage in the three debates, according to a new national survey.
Fifty-nine percent of likely voters questioned in the survey say that Obama is more likely to do a better job than Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney in the debates, with 34% saying that Romney will beat Obama.
By a 55%-39% margin, women approve of the job Obama's doing, with men divided (48%-49%).
Pres. Obama can be more comfortable debating with a strong position for the majority in the middle class.
Pants-on-fire Romney will not be able to get away with his numerous lies and flip-flops in the debates.
All four people were very special. They were selfless, dedicated, accomplished, loyal Americans. It is about time that BOTH sides involved in the presidential election focused on that.
I also believe that Americans should understand that many people in the world despise us. In Libya, that is extremely ironic because of the assistance we offered the rebels in their successful civil war against Quadafi. But perfectly logical, competent people can be caught off guard in such an environment. Certainly Ambassador Stevens and the two Navy Seals with him understood the potential dangers, and they were surprised by the attack on the consulate. And endless condemnation of the governments in the Middle East will have diminishing returns. We should condemn the attackers and we should hunt them down. But apparently the film that caused the clerics to call for demonstrations is a piece of garbage (although I certainly have not seen it). And it is in the best interests of our soldiers and our diplomats to call it garbage and disassociate our government from that film. That too is only common sense. We don't apologize as a government; we simply express our disapproval for an insult to a major world religion. That is what Kennedy, Johnson and Clinton would have done. It is what Eisenhower and Nixon would have done. If Romney can't fathom that, then he might be a bull in a China shop (in addition to being a weather vane).
CNN Election Board: Obama 53 Romney 46
Michigan Obama 47 Romney 37
Ohio Obama 50 Romney 43
Virginia Obama 49 Romney 44
Florida Obama 49 Romney 44
CNN Question: Who would have the economy in better shape one year from now?
Obama 67% Romney 33%
538blog:
Electoral Votes: Obama 308.3 Romney 229.7
Chance of Winning Obama 76.2 Romney 23.8
Popular Vote: Obama 51.2 Romney 47.7
For more details:
http: //fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
538blog does include Gallup and Rasmussen polls, plus others.
Rasmussen poll of only humans with brains (meaning no democrats or liberals) have Romey beating Obummer by a landslide.
[Rasmussen poll...]
booby, FoxMussen has Romney over Obama?
I'm shocked...SHOCKED I tell you...