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ORLANDO, Fla. – Former President Bill Clinton on Wednesday painted Republicans as a party controlled by its most extreme members, unwilling to compromise and too conservative for former GOP leaders like Richard Nixon and Dwight D. Eisenhower.
"Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower – Richard Nixon’s too liberal for these people. It’s amazing," Clinton told the 2,000 people packed into a hotel ballroom here. He said the most right-wing members of the GOP control the party's nominations and "political operations."
Clinton has spent the past two days campaigning for President Barack Obama in Florida. The tour comes a week after he delivered a well-received speech at the Democratic National Convention in which he laid out the case for the president's re-election.
His stops here and Miami were largely an extension of those arguments.
"The American people have to believe me on this; I have traveled all over the world, not just when I was president, but since I left,” Clinton said. “I work everywhere. I'm telling you what works; what works is cooperation. What fails is constant conflict. You've got to vote for cooperation."
He did not mention the attacks on the U.S. Consulate in Libya, which took four lives and were condemned by top U.S. officials. He stayed away from foreign policy, continuing to focus on the economy, and making the case that America is better off now than when Obama took office nearly four years ago.
"I want to say again something I said in Charlotte, because the whole election could come down to this. I honestly believe – it doesn't matter who caused it or whether the contributing factors all happened under President Bush or something I did or something Ronald Reagan did 30 years ago." he said. "Regardless, President Obama didn't cause it ... but if he just kept telling us that and not done anything, we'd still have to replace him, because we hired him to take the job and you don’t get to pick only the good and not the bad. So he took it on."
Clinton said calls for austerity measures and tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans are irresponsible given the country's slow economic growth.
"I was always taught, when you're in a hole, the first rule is to quit digging," he said.
Clinton's biggest applause lines during his Florida tour have been criticizing Republicans for their inaccurate arithmetic and saying that hypocritical attacks against the president take “real brass."
Tying up his speech, Clinton urged the crowd to choose "arithmetic over illusion."
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No kidding. The Republican Party has driven their circus car off the road. It appears that Romney is taking advice from the neocons, you know, those people that love them some war, as long as their hides are safe.
It is a shame what a once great party has become.
A lot of people, and republicans, have no idea how safe Clinton kept us.
2000 millennium attack plots
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Year 2000 attack plots were terrorist attacks planned to occur on or near January 1, 2000: the bombing of four sites in Jordan, the bombing of Los Angeles International Airport (LAX), and the bombing of the USS The Sullivans.[1] The first two plots were foiled by law enforcement agencies; the third was aborted after a mistake occurred. While the various attacks were planned to occur around the same date, there is no evidence that the three plots were coordinated in any way.
[edit]The Jordan bombing plot
In Jordan, members of the group planned to bomb four sites: a fully booked Radisson hotel in Amman, Jordan; the border between Jordan and Israel; Mount Nebo, a Christian holy site; and a site on the Jordan River where John the Baptist is said to have baptized Jesus. These locations were chosen to target tourists from the United States and Israel. The most active participant was a Boston taxi driver named Raed Hijazi.
On November 30, 1999, Jordanian intelligence intercepted a call between Abu Zubaydah, the leader of the plot, and Khadr Abu Hoshar, a Palestinian militant. In the conversation, Zubaydah stated, "The time for training is over." Sensing that the attack was imminent, Jordanian police arrested Hoshar and fifteen others on December 12, 1999.
The authorities put twenty eight suspects on trial. Twenty two of them were quickly found guilty. Six of them, including Hijazi, were sentenced to death. Abu Zubaydah was sentenced to death in absentia. Loa'i Mohammad Haj Bakr al-Saqa and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, were sentenced in absentia in 2002, for their part in the plot which included using poison gas during the bombing.
[edit]LAX bombing plot
Ahmed Ressam, an Algerian citizen living in Montreal, Canada planned to bomb Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) on New Year's Eve 1999/2000. He was arrested at Port Angeles, Washington, the U.S. port of entry, on December 14, 1999. Customs officials then found a cache of explosives that could have produced "a blast forty times greater than that of a devastating car bomb" and four timing devices hidden in the spare tire well in the trunk of the rented car in which he had traveled from Canada.[2][3] He and three other Algerians stood trial for the crime. Ressam began cooperating with investigators in 2001. He was initially sentenced to 22 years in prison, but in February 2010 an appellate court reversed and remanded the case based on procedural errors and recommended that his sentence be extended.[4]
[edit]USS The Sullivans attack plot
In Yemen, members of the group planned to bomb the USS The Sullivans with a boat laden with explosives. Militants deployed a bomb-laden boat on January 3, 2000, but the over-loaded bomb boat sank before detonating.[5][6] Richard A. Clarke, in his book Against All Enemies, says that at the time, no law enforcement agency in the world knew about this plot.[7]
[edit]Aftermath
After the attack on The Sullivans failed, al-Qaeda tried the same type of attack a second time. They successfully bombed the USS Cole on October 12, 2000.
On July 19, 2004, it was revealed that the U.S. Justice Department was investigating former National Security Advisor of the Clinton administration, Sandy Berger, for unauthorized removal ofclassified documents in October 2003 from a National Archives reading room prior to testifying before the 9/11 Commission. The documents were five classified copies of a single report commissioned from Richard Clarke, covering internal assessments of the Clinton administration's handling of the plots. An associate of Berger said Berger took one copy in September 2003 and four copies in October 2003.[8]
The Radisson SAS hotel in Amman was successfully bombed by terrorists in 2005.
While in prison, Ressam revealed that al-Qaeda sleeper cells existed within the United States. This information was included in the famous President's Daily Brief delivered to President George W. Bush on August 6, 2001, entitled Bin Laden Determined To Strike in US. Ressem's interogation also led to the apprehension of Richard Reid the "shoe bomber."
A 2011 NPR report claimed some of the people associated with this plot were imprisoned in a highly restrictive Communication Management Unit.[9]
That's right Newday. If defense contractors were non-profit organizations we would all be a lot better off. Romney's friends will make a killing on war profiteering thanks to confilicts of choice in Syria, or Libya, or North Korea, or God help us Egypt, or all of the above. Oh, and let's not forget that Romney felt our number one enemy is Russia. Romney/Ryan, they're not in it for you!
You poor libtards.....I almost feel sorry for ya for being so duped!......almost, however, you still gotta pay for your stupidity!....lol
I understand your latest tantrum today......you wish your boy could act like a man and presidential like Mr. Romney....You discovered today how utterly incompetent Obummer actually is. He's been prez for over three years and still doesn't get the whole foreign affairs deal.
......and it only took ya 3.8 years to figure it out!....lmao.....I lost a twenty to a neighbor on that one! I thought you'd catch on sooner...*wink**wink*
That's for sure, Wayne! Good to see you.
Your comments make me think you are a socialist. Non profits or socialism. What else do you want as nonprofits? Car manufacturers, energy, banks?
The TParty is BAD news. They should just call themselves what they are: NAZI'S
Fine michael. I would guess you have no children of military age. Oh, that's right, you are still a child yourself.
Michael, don't you have a militia weekend to prepare for? Your comments are inane and superfluous.
It's good to see you too Newday! Mom has been keeping me very busy. We seem to be at the beginning of the long goodbye. I won't have too much time to post for some time, I believe. I hope all is well with you.
Wow ya tool......you rock!....Say, if it's not too much trouble next time can you COPY & PASTE the entire internet on your thread?
I don't think you have enough! (#1.1)
Sometimes less can be more!.....LMAO
Today's republican party is a disgrace to what our founding fathers envisioned for our political landscape. Our founding fathers wanted a politician that would create laws to help the people who they represent. Instead, the republican party encrusted by a bunch of right wing nut jobs called the Tea Party has done everything in their power to thwart job growth that would help everyone. It is their idea along with the rest of the republican party to do everything that the leaders of the party want in spite of what is in the best interest of it's supporters and the rest of the population.
The GNOP compromises the very stability of it's constituents livelihood by stifling jobs in the name of ousting President Obama. While the majority of the republican party may be affluent, they couldn't win an election without the support of average middle income workers. Instead of helping those workers, they have bolstered tax deductions to the affluent and done nothing to help the middle class people they need for support. But they'll stand in front of you, look you in the eye and say that you are important. The fact remains that they have done nothing and will do nothing in the future to help those same people they have lied to eye-to-eye.
....and then this....
Yep....you seem stable!....LMAO...Freak
I'll be thinking of you and yours Wayne, during this difficult time. Keep well, and know we are thinking of you.
Good luck and God bless you and your Mom Wayne.
Boehner is a fanitical drunken weeper who is the posterchild of the demise of the GOP. No compormise like any good alcoholic.
Hey Mike 69',....... which is what your Mom shoulda' kept doing,......presumably you are calling our President "boy" to compliment him on his youthful appearance.
Right?
Thank you Newday and Forrest. That means a lot. It is very tough to witness this in your own mother.
@nomore. Ok so what do you expect in job growth. 100 bucks per hour for flipping burgers? How are they stopping job growth? Most business people say the problem is uncertain regs, healthcare costs, tax concerns. The Obama administration wants coal energy to stop. How many jobs will that cost especially in the hardest hit states? I am a believer in multiple sourced energy but Obama seems to see it only in renewables. It has to be all of the above.
.......or his sheer incompetence!
Right?
Wayne - my thoughts are with you as I know the feeling all to well. Five years ago next month for me.
Michael1969 - you have just confirmed what a complete tosser you are. As if you didn't have to prove anything, you show how classless someone can be. I hope to hell something really good happens to you. You're absence on here would be a delight.
NDD - Even other GOPers are saying Romney's comments about Libya are miss informed! The R/R ticket is in it's death throws. Code Blue, Code Blue!!!!
4 more for 44!
Wayne ....all good wishes to you and your family. The final journey is a difficult time for all concerned, stay strong and be well. Stop by when you can we'll keep a light on for you. Peace.
LULU. If you don't know how the republican has done everything in their power to stop job growth by denying passage of bills to help the average American worker and their complete failure to propose any jobs bills at the same time, you need to gain a great deal more knowledge about what goes on in Washington.
If you feel I'm wrong, I invite you or any other republican supporter to present as little as half a dozen bills that the republican party has introduced and passed into law during the past 4 years that has helped the average American.
It's very tough Wayne, but it is the price we pay for having great family and friends, we all have to say goodbye at some point.
Awwww, and this from the party of "compassion & tolerance"......lmfaooooo....and then ya type this....
Are you smokin crack tonight? You may wanna try and make up yer mind on which way you're going there....you're starting to sound like Wayne boy
P.S. - I think it's safe to say Obummer is in wayyyy over his head on this Middle East stuff! Even you libbies are having a tough time defending this crap!
If you all had "great family & friends" you wouldn't see timestamps at ALL hours of the day next to your screennames......correct?
If you're starting your opinions at 8 am and are still on here at 8 pm you may wanna get some new friends!...or be nicer to your family!....lol
Thank you all. With good friends and family, and most of all my fabulous wife, we will all get through this.
Yeah Mike. Let's put that razor-keen mind of yours to work and tell us what Hosni Mubarak, Mohamar Quaddafi, and Osama bin Laden think of that prescient statement.
Next up: Bashar al Assad.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
All these extremists in the Republican Party. Why is it that it always takes the Democrats and REAL journalists to expose them for what they are?
Why is it that the GOP finally come around after the Romneys of the world are exposed by the Democratic politicians and bloggers and real journalists?
It took forever for the GOP to see that Sarah Palin was in over her head. It took forever for republicans to see that the Iraq War was wrong and torture was wrong. Why is it that they believe every single republican who comes down the pike is authentic? Why don't they speak up for goodness sakes, before it's too late? Why are they always the last to know?
All these pundits on tv thought Romney was legit right up until today. Just about every single one of them.
The GOP is now coming around to seeing that Romney is unfit to be President of the United States. What took them so long?
We've been saying it for years, yet the republicans - being republicans - didn't happen to notice until the GOP convention. Today only sealed the deal.
Why is Dan Senor STILL on tv? Why does he hold so much power over Romney? HIS POLICIES ARE WRONG.
When we were growing up, never once do I recall anyone questioning Walter Cronkrite or Roger Mudd or Edward R. Murrow or any journalists back then.
Today's pundits are ruining our country. Every single day we have to expose their lies. Every single day.
They are apologists for the neocons and extreme right. They are liars.
Yep, because you and your boy know exactly who those rebels are that you're propping up!
.....might wanna get a refund on that crystal ball!
Mr. Clinton, it is time you gathered your wife and headed back to Arkansas to complete your Whitewater deal.
Extremists in the Republican Party ? Best to check the White House staff and the visitor's log. There are as many "extremists" there than Ex-Goldman Sachs employees in this administration. Of course we don't want to forget Trumpka, VanJones and those extreme Czars.
Wait a minute.....maybe you should go back to Haiti and check your Global Initiatives INC. account for the re-building effort. Sheeesh, how long ago did that earthquake hit and families are still living in tents. Oh, the money HASN'T been distributed.
BTW: how do you feel after getting slammed by Mr. Obama in the 2008 campaign when he called you a "racist" ? My oh my, how little we forget after we are thrown under the ObamaWagon with Oprah, Rev. Wright, and the Kennedy family littering the street.
A proper U.S. response comes from the sound of American bombers on approach to these mobs.
Barrack Obama ...FAILED LEADERSHIP...
Wayne - Lost my Dad in 2001 and Mom in 2009, Mom had Alzheimer for 8 years We were her care takers. Just remember, suffering does happen, confront it head on, everything is impermanent, it will be better. Most importantly of all, take good care of yourself! A sick caregiver cannot give care. All the best to you and your family!
Bill Clinton is certainly right. The only strength of today's republicanism is it's weak and deluded convictions. In truth, It's a party that supports only the wealthy, and hands everyone else illusions, and, nowadays, due to ineptness and lack of care, fewer and fewer sclupted turds, opting more toward the cheaper bullsh^t.
Mr. Clinton, you have sold whatever was left of your soul to whatever you were promised by President Obama. Please keep in mind that he brakes most of his promises. I voted for you twice back then when you were different.
My old Democratic party has been and is controlled by the extreme left. Please don't believe them, you are better than that.
Been there myself with my mom Wayne. Lost her to ALS.
Good advice Holyhandgrenade. I am trying to do all of the right things to maintain my own health. You are absolutely right.
Ha really Michael you are on this blog quite a bit yourself, quite a bit indeed, are you unemployed, are you one of those welfare queens you pretend to complain about, but guys like me pay for. I see you end a great many of your posts with LMAO, but I notice there are never any posters that laugh along with you, how sad is that Michael, are you a sad clown, laughing on the outside, but lonely and bitter on the inside. Don't you have any friends Michael, is constantly denigrating and insulting others the only way you can feel better about yourself, you seem to have self esteem issues. You seem to constantly feel the need to tell everyone how stupid they are and how smart you are, but again I notice there are very few posters that agree with you, did you ever notice that Michael? Do you just need a hug Michael, but don't know how to ask?
Holyhandgrenade: When your own party calls you out...Romney has got to know he is in trouble.
Hiya, Forrest!
Thanks again Newday. I have been through it with my great aunt, a woman who was editor in chief of Encylopedia Americana. Thanks to her job she knew something about everything. She was the most brilliant conversationalist I ever met. It all went away. The toughest part was when she still knew she was losing her mind. That is where I am with Mom now.
And that is so difficult. But, you know what Wayne? She knows you are with her, and being present is the greatest comfort you can offer.
Whew!......long-winded much?!? I hope ya feel better!
Life will be okay....tomorrow morning is almost here with new headlines for you and yer buddy, Feisty DumbFux, to bitch, complain, and sh!t on America! It's all good!
Hi Ya New Day, I'm in "Maybery".
"Miss informed", HolyHangrenade.....really, how perfectly literate!
Wayne and newday: What's with the private conversation on a public discussion site?? Very boring, not to mention rude.
I feel fine Michael, I was just wondering why you never do, and as usual all you have are insults, you do more than your share of bitching and complaining, I have often said how much better off I am than I was four years ago. It's not my fault, or any other posters fault that it sucks to be you, like you say, for me it is all good.
Hope you are enjoying Mayberry Forrest!
spider: because a discussion site is designed to allow one to have a discussion with another. Is that a NEW concept for you? Really?
Michael: You are uninformed and ignorant of fact. You must be a child of fox news. Go back there, where you're ignorance will be applauded. You gender nothing but pity and contempt on Real News channels.
The Republican Party does not exist anymore. Instead, there is A HERD of extremist IGNORANT BIGOTS THATARE UNWILLING TO COMPROMISE. tHEY ARE CALLED THE "tEA PARTY"OR THE "NEW TALIBAN
Tell it like it is , Bill ... and Amen. Note that everybody wants their picture taken with Bill Clinton - even the Bush'es. You're currently not seeing a lot of Republicans backing Romney publicly. If Romney was really better for the country, Bill wouldn't be doing this. You know it - I know it - and so do most of the voters in this country. M.T. Suit is a nice guy; who often makes bizarre statements at inappropriate times, but he would make a terrible president.
The new job kicks tail New Day, doing what I like to do, and at the risk of sounding immodest what I am extremely proficient at, but evenings in the hotel get boring pretty quick, that is how I stumbled across FR about four years ago.
Michael has too much time on his hands because the Civil War re-enactments are over for the summer.
President Harry Truman, 1948:
“The Republicans … will try to make people believe that everything
the Government has done for the country is socialism. They will go to the people
and say: "Did you see that social security check you received the other day—you
thought that was good for you, didn't you? That's just too bad! That's nothing
in the world but socialism. Did you see that new flood control dam the
Government is building over there for the protection of your property?
Sorry—that's awful socialism! That new hospital that they are building is
socialism. Price supports, more socialism for the farmers! Minimum wage laws?
Socialism for labor! Socialism is bad for you, my friend. Everybody knows that.
And here you are, with your new car, and your home, and better opportunities for
the kids, and a television set—you are just surrounded by socialism! Now the
Republicans say, ‘That's a terrible thing, my friend, and the only way out of
this sinkhole of socialism is to vote for the Republican ticket.
’" And! And!! AND!!! THAT was 64 Years Ago. The Republican Crime Cartel was up to their same filthy old tricks to exploit America and Her people as they do now. A vote for Rommel, Iran war monger, is a vote against your and your family's Well Being.
Where is W?
You'd have thought that with the GOP parading his policies around at the convention they'd at least have invited him to stop by and talk about them for a little while.
Right?
Aww - Michael misses Feisty so much he talks to her even when she's not here.
Isn't that sweeeet?
You mean the sound of one of those $24 million Harrier jets dropping $720,000 SLAM missiles?
Since we're on pay-as-you-go, which upper-income tax deduction are you going to eliminate each time one is dropped? We'll need a list.
Ronald Reagan, the most conservative and intellectually vapid of presidents, is too liberal for this current crop of extremist Republicans. How can we ask other nations and religions to denounce their extremists when we don't denounce our own?
Michael1969
Romney is a punk without a spine. Punks are the only ones that like other punks.
Wayne,
The long goodbys are the hardest. It effects everyone, and you know that's the last thing she would have wanted.
Stay strong, do what ever you can to make her transition comfortable and just love her. She will know that you are there, and that will give her peace.
My heart goes out to you and your family.
@ nomoresameo- "Today's republican party is a disgrace to what our founding fathers envisioned for our political landscape. Our founding fathers wanted a politician that would create laws to help the people who they represent. Instead, the republican party encrusted by a bunch of right wing nut jobs called the Tea Party has done everything in their power to thwart job growth that would help everyone. It is their idea along with the rest of the republican party to do everything that the leaders of the party want in spite of what is in the best interest of it's supporters and the rest of the population."
Actually chief, you are EXTREMELY UNEDUCATED, IGNORANT TO HISTORY, and Blatantly Partisan. IF you knew ANYTHING OF HISTORY you would know George Washington (you know one of those founding forefathers you speak of) said of political parties "they serve no other purpose than to divide what we fought, bled, and died for." So basically, let me spell this out for you since you seem to think DEMOCRATS have all the answers - is that NO POLITICAL PARTY serves the best interest of the people. Party Politics have done more harm to this country than anything. We are so damned consumed about the stupid (D) or (R) next to a candidates name that we believe anything they say. We are too damned sheepish to question the motives, the agendas, and the truth of those "sheppards" we blindly follow. I can certainly point to quite a few DEMOCRATS who have violated the law, done stupid stuff, even BLATANTLY LIED while staring into a camera addressing the American Public with comments like "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN." Story sure does change once the dress is made public right. And I don't give a hoot about how it is a private matter. PRIVATE ENDS when the chief exec LIES BOLD FACE TO HIS BOSS - the American People. Private ends when they abuse thier position. Republicans are no better. But to think one party is better than another shows just how ignorant and misguided people are.
DID YOU EVEN REALIZE the American People DO NOT ELECT the president. That comes from the electoral college, where in case you don't get it, the delegates are free to cast votes INDEPENDENT of what the people in their states decide. DID YOU REALIZE the electoral college quashes the very democratic notion of voting. You don't believe me, then why are there "battle ground states"? ISN'T EVERY VOTE IMPORTANT? If the individual voting really mattered, then why are there presidents elected by ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES when they clearly LOOSE THE POPULAR VOTE. That alone should tell you your vote don't mean sht.
IF the people we elect were so damned concerned about "The People", then why do you see them hosting $25k dinners. How many of "the people" can afford a year's salary for a half of a plate of food for 1 person. You never see our "representatives" hosting a $5 wienie roast. How many of "OUR REPRESENTATIVES" accept bribes (I mean donations) from special interest groups, from PACs, SUPER PACS, and Lobbyists? How about ALL OF EM. So don't say republicans are the problem, when clearly the entire system is the problem. GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS NEITHER A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN. He was an AMERICAN FIRST. But sure as hell NONE followed that lead.
Politics are not, should not, and should never be the issue that divides us as a nation. And quite honestly, the asshat in the White House right now is not the messiah, nor is he even close. It has nothing to do with his race, but it has everything to do with his performance. "Transparent Government", but let's seal my education records. "Strong Immigration Policy", but half my damned family are illegal immigrants and I sure won't deport them. "I will turn this economy around", but unemployment has been over 8% and has not decline (though even the GAO admits this number is closer to 12%). "CHANGE THE WAY WASHINGTON DOES BUSINESS", but yet Chuck Rangle can committ TAX FRAUD and no punishment. And let's certainly not forget his affiliation with Jerimiah WRIGHT. Yeah, this is a guy that is objective, well rounded, and morally adept. "Transparent", tell that to the border patrol agent killed by the Fast and Furious Debacle. Or the wonderful policies we have concerning the influx of illegals. No one remembers Robert Krentz, whose family has been ranching in southern Arizona since 1907, was gunned down in 2010 by an illegal immigrant while out on his ATV tending to fences and water lines on the family's 34,000-acre cattle ranch in Cochise County Arizona, 15 miles north of the Mexican Border. Obama's solution wasn't a fence, wasn't using the national guard to protect the border, no what was HIS MASTER PLAN. How about a few signs warning Americans NOT TO WALK IN THIER OWN COUNTRY NEAR THE BORDER. So what does that say about this administration's support of its own citizens. It is perfectly ok for US CITIZENS to be killed ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY, and I think the best way to deal with illegal immigration is the DREAM ACT.
I guess the Supposed HARVARD LAW grad doesn't realize that ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS IN FACT A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW. But hey, let's reward em with an amnesty program. Hey let's stomp on a state for wanting to defend it's borders and citizens. I wonder how his UNCLE's DUI and Deportation Case is going. Wonder who is paying for that defense. I sure bet the nephew in the White House is sparing no expense. Amazing to see the AUNT, who had a deportation order for 10+ years and living off social assistance got her amnesty as well. But hey, it's all good right?
MAYBE we all need to be a bit more EDUCATED about the people we vote for. We might not directly elect them, but let's not be stupid enough to believe any of em are better than the others. They are all full of sht. Promise the world, get your vote, and forget about you in the morning... At least until the next election, when we sheep still believe the sheppard as they lead us to the slaughter house...
Right. Both Reid and Pelosi are far left loons, and Obama is a left wing extremist. But it doesn't seem to matter how far to the left the Democrats move, their fingers still only point one direction, and there are no mirrors allowed. Besides, doesn't this story depend on what the meaning of the word "is" is?
Michael1969
I really hate giving any credence to your posts, but this one was stupid and short and easy to make a point off of...
The current stress in the Middle East is easily explained, expected, and dealt with... although your dip-@!$%# king Romney doesn't seem to get it.
We know how the Muslim world takes criticism of their religion from the United States... whether from trolls and demonizers like you of from stupid f@#king preacher using his freedom of stupidity. They don't take it well after we've been in their like we owned the world for decades.
That said... we've made progress with many, but not all. Add to that the subversive elements still trying to stay relevant that will use anything they can to rile up their base (you guys know THAT trick, right?) and you get these protests. We killed the 2nd in command al qaeda leader in Yemen just a few days ago, remember?
And the rocket(s) in Libya? We don't know or haven't said what we know yet. Be patient. My bet is that not too many people are betting we won't find the killers and make short work of them.
The real problem? The very REASON for posts like yours... with lame statements and the overuse of "Obummer" or whatever? Romney cannot compete with Obama on the world stage. Not even close. He only plays the fool with any consistency.
Rick-3416939
"Left", and the strength of "left", is dependent only on how far "right" you start from.
Obama has managed from the center... left-center at the most. But when your position on the field is somewhere in the parking lot, he looks oh-so left.
Here's an interesting notion for you...
The Republicans, in an attempt to stay relevant, have moved right, then right, then right... to the point that the ONLY reason they're even close in this race is because their opponent is black. Manufactured and latent fear is "all they got left".
Whatdyathink?
LMarcT Very well said! All of michael1969 posts are lame he's just a troll. Zombie trolls is what I think of when I read all the rightwing republican/tea party lies that some of them post.
WTF?! Presidential like Mr Romney???? I thought this was sarcasm at first.. Even the repubs are condemning him for his poor judgement and being unpresidential.
He stands for nothing. Changes his position depending on which direction the wind is blowing, and he has the credibility of a Wigi board.
Michael1969,
Could you possibly be "related" to MichMike, MikeMich, or whatever that was banned? hmmmm
It's a bizarre world where a serial rapist criticizes a party for "extremists" leading it. Who was leading the DNC when the vote to reinstate God and Jerusalem as the capital of Israel in the platform failed (but as is typical, the Democrats rigged that vote count)? A bunch of left wing loonies from the GLBT, unions, and the abortion industry.
@Colorado-Man
Free Speech: Your mama is a serial rapist she had you.
All I have to do is read down this first set of comments, all the extremist views on both sides, all the twisting and contorting of facts, minimizing of bad facts, maximizing minute details, etc. and say to myself, "This is why I'm an independent."
In reality, I'm glad that these comment sections represent the most emotionally volatile and polarized of both sides, and are not a reflection of the general public. If they were, this country would be well beyond any hope.
The only reason why Flip Flopping MittWitt is even close is due to President Obama being a black man period.
MittWitt needs the whole 68.1 of the white population to vote for him because the rest of us knows he is an extreme racist period. He has no clue of how economic, domestic and foreign affairs work. He's gasping at straws hoping to pull the long one, but he already pulled to short ones.
Flip Flopper you don't have the temperament, the understanding or grasp about world events and since your college days you are losing grip on reality and replacing it will delusional alternate world friction that belongs in a software game.
You will never get the 3:00 AM call.
President Obama
When Rush Limbaugh became the spokes person for the failed GOP. Extrememist took over and the decline began. The GOP needs better packaging if they they plan on being involved with our free democratic government. Better leaders then Robmehood/ruin would help too.
Typical liberal response, denigrate, deny, deflect. Good job "solutions"!
LMarcT
ROTFLMAO!! Yeah right, that's why the democratic convention featured soooo many moderate democrats. Oh, wait... that's right, there was only Clinton. The rest ranged from "far left field" to "which direction is the fence even in?".
@John in Battle Creek
I know quite a few republicans and they all think Limbaugh is full of @!$%#. The ONLY people who believe he is the spokesperson for the GOP is liberals looking for an excuse to bash a whole group without bothering to look at what they actually stand for.
Socialism only works
in two places:
Heaven where they don't
need it and hell where they already have it."
RR
Today's Republican party is an insult to such great Republicans as Reagan, Goldwater, Eisenhower, TR and Lincoln. Today it is nothing more than a party fear, ignorance and hate.
@ Michael ...
Anyone who cannot manage a post without name calling is little more than a bully on the playground. Please grow up and then return to talk to the adults.
@Charlie
Both parties have extreme elements say Pelosi, Boxer and Fienstinker just to name the worst.
Moderate Republicans and Democrats do exist just unfortunately they are far outnumbered by the Ultra Crazy Liberal Left and Ultra Crazy Conservative Right.
Solutions539 - It appears that you don't have any cognitive abilities. You might try to take some lessons on comprehension.
Col M--/A voten our country to make Jerusalem only the capital of Israel would have meant denying the Palestinians their rights to having their city considered their capital too. It was a city of the Philistines before the jews entered Cannaan, and throughout the wars to defeat those original inhabitants they always considered it as theirs. The Romans ,who later conquered the area,tried to have the jews live in harmoney with the Philistines ,which they would not do.The result was the Jewish Diaspera,or dispersal.A portion of the Jewish population remained in Cannaan,with the assistance of Palistinian neighbors,but the majority were banished.After W.W.2,with the assistance and financial support of American Jews they were able to return to Palestine and through the persistence of Jewish terrorists/freedom fighters,they established the nation of Israel. When the British / French refused to turn over the Suez Canal,which they were obliged to do They sent military forces south through Palestine to occupy the canal. Israeli forces joined them and occupied another area of Palestine. The U.S. government compelled the British French Forces to live up to their commitment to turn the Canal over to Egypt and leave the area,which they did but the Israelis were not required to do the same thing. This has been the root cause of the conflict in the region ever since. Our Government has been,without success, attempting to have this problem resolved diplomatically and although we support Israel we cannot refuse to support the legitimate claims of the Palestinians to have their occupied Territory's returned to them.
Listoire - But the Democrats modified their platform (without the number of votes they needed, but I've already addressed that) to include it. It was a minority view among Democrats to exclude Jerusalem, but not among the radical Leftists that control the party (as evidenced by the vote(s), which was the theme of the thread.
GOPisextinct,
Clinton narrowly averted a disaster of his own making. Now, to cite a few examples not from wikipedia. Clinton's overt (weapons, money) support of the el-Mujahed unit (foreign fighters from Algeria etc who went to Bosnia in the early 1990s at the behest of the Bosnian president) led to them staying in the country. What happened is that close to 1,000 of these Salafist mujahedeen types established enclaves in Bosnia from which they trained future jihadists for the struggle in the Causcasus and elsewhere. The Millenium plotters (originally GIA members from Algeria) came from one of these villages in Central Bosnia (Donja Bočinja to be exact) prior to going to Montreal, as did the al-Qaeda financiers for 9/11 and two of the hijackers. Mohammed Ata was living in another village 3 km away (making this three). The list of future terrorist operatives who lived and trained at one time or another in this tiny village between 1997-2000 is mind-boggling. Look up "Christopher Caze" who eventually ended up in a shoot-out in France. Clinton was so convinced in the "victim" status of muslims in Bosnia that he did not press Bosnia to expell the mujahedeen, despite the fact that they were causing serious problems for NATO peacekeeprs there from 1995-2000. Clinton made a deal with the Devil in flying these mujahedeen into Bosnia. They received Bosnian citizenship, passports and false identities, which they then went on use as cover for operations across Europe and North America.
Those same mujahedeen which Clinton allowed to take root in Bosnia have now "given birth" to a new generation of Salafists. This generation has been responsible for the 2005 plot to assassinate the Pope, the 2007 plot to attack the Embassy in Vienna and the 2011 shooting up of the Embassy in Sarajevo. Until this Spring the most active enclave was in another tiny village, Gornja Maoča. In addition to being a transit center for foreign fighters to Iraq and Afghanistan, this place gave the weapon to the Sarajevo shooter and they even gave him a lift into town. What is frightening is that these Salafist (sometimes erroneously labelled as Wahhabi) jamaats still exist and are spreading. There are a number of books on this subject, however, my research is the most recent and covers the 2007-2012 time period. Christoper Deliso ("The Coming Balkan Caliphate") covers up to 2007.
Andrea Mitchell interviewed Huntsman today. He is the only former Republican candidate with any gravitas and credentials for leadership, but they shot him down. Why? I guess it is not because of his religion, because he's a Mormon. It seems it might be because he's not an extremist.
He had a number of really good things to say about Romney's foolishness about the Cairo memo, and the general need for a thoughtful approach to the situation in a possibly 100-year shift in the volatile Muslim world, to protect US interests there.
But then, when asked, said that he supports Romney because of his economic/tax/energy chops.
Finally, Andrea asked him how often he talks to Romney. He said "I never talk to him." End of interview.
Cognitive dissonance much? Here, even the most respectable Republican kneels to the Party even though it is obvious that he has little regard for Romney. I am disappointed in Huntsman.
Obama 2012
if you have time to keep up with everyone's timestamps and match them up with their ideology, you may need to get away from this more yourself.
Apparently the intern perv ex-president forgot about the growing deficit Obama is digging deeper. Go away Clinton, go find some fat intern. That is what you are suited for.
Why isn't George W Bush campaigning for Romney? How about Cheney or Rumsfeld? At least the Democrats aren't ashamed of their past leaders and don't throw them under the bus.
You must be on Beer or maybe Whiskey
better than denial, like you.
Why is Ryan running for his old congressional seat? ...................... Because he knows that he has a snowballs chance in Hades to be Vice President!
It is common to run for both. Grow up.
Common? Give me a list. We will see how common it is. Make it recent too! None of this 50 years ago LBJ bull hockey please.
Holy.....he needs a back up plan as he has to know plan A is not working out. he's lucky he lives in a state that allows him to keep his hat in the ring for his congressional seat. Not all do.
GBM - We can all hope the good people in the great state of Wisconsin make him a double looser on election day!
Actually , if Michael 1969 Died tonight . It would not bother me a bit .
E S and D. FORGET a fool like that .
Clinton gave his speech and now he should move on. Tough to stomach listening to opinions on the state of the Repub party from a serial sexual harraser who was disbarred.
Bill, your time in the sun was twenty years ago....now go give a paid speech.
Rush, the real leader of the Republican Party, laid out the Republican marching orders in early 2009 --- "we want Obama to fail". That's been the Republican objective ever since --- to hell with the nation, let's get Obama. There's a difference between being in the opposition and being an enemy. Republicans have always viewed President Obama as their enemy and in their fanatical desire to destroy President Obama at any cost, they have lost all focus on what’s best for America. The 21st century Republican Party doesn't care if the US crashes and burns as long as they can destroy the President. Bottom line, you cannot be a 21st century Republican and be a good American at the same time. The two positions are polar opposite.
tony,
Why isn't Carter up there touting how great he was when he was president? You whine about the Republicans, but it was clear that Clinton (the EX-president) gave a better speech then Obama. It's clear the Democrats are too dense to see the huge mistake they made by having an ex steal the thunder from the current prez...
JK - Did you miss Carter's speech at the convention?
He delivered it by video (he is 88, you know) - here it is, since you didn't get to see it the first time.
Watch it - you might learn something (like graciousness):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0z-cOe5wzQ
Biden did it. That recent enough for you? I know, he doesn't really count, because he's Joke Biden.
graciousness??
Yes...exactly like the kind of "graciousness" we see daily from the liberal posters on this board, right?
I actually couldn't stop laughing after Villaragosa made the utter fool of himself with that umm.."platform" amendment. Unfortunately for us that live in Los Angeles, we have to live with this idiot daily.
Republicans invent the republican who "is plain spokin' and tell's it like it is." It's a mythologic figure in the Republican pantheon. None, at least since Eisenhower has existed.
But Joe Biden is that person. Except that Joe used the f*** word once, in a positive sense, saying "This is a big f***ing deal." What he referred to was a big deal, one of the biggest in recent domestic policy history.
Let's compare that to the most recent Republican VP's use of the f*** word. "you can f*** off". Pithy, sophomoric, childish, and negative.
Now, Republicans and conservatives, how can you possibly say you like politicians who tell it like it is and not love Joe Biden, who has always been the best at that very thing?
Is it that you don't like the "as it is" part of the statements, because you believe only the Republican party line lies?
Facts don't really mean much to you, do they?
It is a fact that the quality of health care in the US is falling to third world standards at the same time that the gap between the wealthy and the middle class falls to the same third world standard. Understand that fact and look at the tax rates under Eisenhower. If you want to be part of this country, right wing, start to think.
Biden is a person well past his prime who makes more blunders than any VP around... Ask about the time we wanted a person confined to a wheelchair to stand up...that is one of the most embarrassing moments for a VP I think the nation has ever witnessed... God help us all if anything were to happen to Obama between now and the first of the year...this nation would be sunk with Biden at the helm!
Clinton isn't trying to help Obama because he likes him. Clinton made a deal that guarantees Hilary will be the nominee in 2016 if he help Obama stay in the Oval Office, and no one wants back in the White House more then Bubba. So Clinton will say or do anything to get Obama elected, even if that does call into question what the meaning of the word "is" is.
Did you not get the memo Dick? Hilary is not going to run for the presidential office again.....EVER.
Bill Clinton's analysis is correct because I've run into people, mostly Tea Party members, who said the same thing about Teddy Roosevelt, Richard Nixon, and even Ronald Reagan, that they were too liberal.
Clinton's biggest applause lines during his Florida tour have been criticizing Republicans for their inaccurate arithmetic and saying that hypocritical attacks against the president take “real brass."
We admire brass and moxie here in America. What we don't admire is arrogant ignorance, and that is what has taken over this republican party.
I listened to some of the Michael Savage radio show last night. In addition to an ad for a remedy for male sexual underformance (what does that say about the target audience, Ha Ha), I listened to him label all Democrats as Godless. He quoted some rabbi friend of his saying ( I'm paraphrasing here) Obama was put on this earth by God to wake America up to the Godless Democrats who seek to destroy this country. He said all our troops hate Obama and Obama is trying to keep them from voting by absentee ballot repeating his assertion "Obama doesn't want the troops to vote".
After listening to his rants, I realized why so many of the posters here are filled with hate for our President and Liberals and Democrats in general.
It is sad that Michael Savage makes millions of dollars each year spewing hatred and lies to his adoring listeners. If only they would realize that they are being misled so this guy can live in a mansion and vacation in the Cayman Islands (I really have no idea where he vacations).
People are only as informed as the news and opinion sources they listen to, watch, and read. It is important to vary your news sources so you know what is really going on in the world around you.
Personally, I watch ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN. I tried Fox but they have their own agenda which often does not reflect reality. I read my daily newspaper, Time, Newsweek, and some other newspaper articles online. I listen to NPR daily. I believe that these varied sources help keep me well informed.
Clinton is so right when he says the Republican Party is controlled by its most extreme members. I believe their extremism is the direct result of the hatred and lies they hear and see from extremist commentators such as Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, some of those over at Fox, and the internet rumor/hate speech sites. This leaves the Republican Party with a substantial falsely informed, hateful part of their base. When a candidate such as Mitt Romney has to appeal to this base, what can he do other than perpetuate the lies of extreme right wing radio and TV?
This misinformed part of the base (37% of Ohio republicans say the think Obama is not an American citizen) will be the downfall of the Republican Party. Our problems are just too pressing to let their solutions be affected by such a misinformed block of voters.
Switch the channel, listen to NPR, read your newspaper. At the root of any successful democracy is a well-informed electorate.
shaak322,
I agree with with you re Limbaugh et al ( though McConnell vowed to destroy Obama first ). They're treasonous in my opinion. The behind the scenes guys are even more destructive, for example, Nordquist, Rove etc. I'd like to suggest you broaden your perspective even more though, by checking out the rest of the world's view on the BBC, CBC and others. It's amazing how differently things are looked at from other shores
Jon132/ I agree with your post script.With the connivance of the T.P. The Republican party are attempting to turn the majority of us into third world inhabitants. They are only interested in obeying the demands of their masters and have no desire to work for the betterment of their employers,we the people. This remake of the Republican Party should be eliminated.
The only way to reform the republican party is to vote out every republican we can, then maybe they will realize that they are on the wrong track.
The American people do NOT want them to run the country, they had a chance in 2010 when they took the house, but what have they done? Where are those jobs you said you were going to create?
Pinky & the Brain have no chance !
This should not come as a shocker to anyone with common sense and a brain. This will however be a shocker to, yup you guessed it, the GOP and their fellow ankle biting friends, the Tea Baggers.
The Republican party is simply a disaster now. And anywhere it gets power -- city, state, county, or D.C. -- it will inflict disaster upon the populace it governs.
Oh SteveR...
The Democrats are a flipping disaster...look at YOUR country....dissolving before your very eyes
what country do you live in? Mine, the United States, is doing much better than it was in 2008 when Bush and Cheney nearly destroyed our economy.
Look what happened to our country after 6 years of absolute repub power:
failed banks
home values tanking
bankrupt businesses
auto industry auguring in
World Trade Centers gone
New Orleans destroyed
5,000 Americans dead in Iraq and Afghanistan
Stock market at 6,500
Unemployment skyrocketing
Record high deficits hidden from republican idiots
CIA agents outed
So the republic party conjures up a sleight of hand called the "Tea Party" selling itself as the same thing,........ but,......different. American idiots bought it.
.....and you want to hire these people again?
yes...we are much better...millions STILL unemployed...the largest defict on record...America's credit rating being downgraded...should we go on? And you want ANOTHER four years of this guy again?
If you think this country is doing better, you need to open your eyes. The rest of us don't want to merrily skip off the precipice with you.
I know how hard it is to admit you're wrong about something when you are so dead set in support of it. We get it. It's embarrassing and some might call you weak. But let's face it. The current administration is sh!tting the bed, and something needs to change.
In a workplace, it's a terrible situation if management cannot terminate an employee based on poor performance (due to tenure, unions, etc.) Why would it be any different with the person that we voted in to lead our country? We don't need a buddy in the White House. We need a leader.
It is never weak to admit you are wrong, and everyone makes mistakes. But it's a grave error to cover your ears and your eyes to what's going on, and pretend that what we have now is working. It's not.
from JK1963
millions still unemployed - true, but why blame the POTUS? Clinton handed Bush a 4.5% unemployment and Bush handed Obama a 10.2% unemployment. This has gone down to 8.2%. Corporations offshored 54% of their new hirees, which means if they had hired all American workers, unemployment would now be 5.9%. Why would you support policies that increased unemployment by 5.7% instead of Obama's policies, which have lowered unemployment by 2% and would have lowered it by 4.3% if American companies had done the right thing?
the largest defict on record - yes, but it doesn't belong to this POTUS. Obama's policies have contributed precisely 0.4% to the national debt, and that figure is constantly shrinking as the stimulus is repaid. A full 95% of additions to the national debt since January 2009 are from only 2 sources - the running of 2 wars, and tax cuts. Put the blame where it belongs.
America's credit rating being downgraded - If you really believe that is Obama's fault, better read the S&P report. They blamed it on a lack of cooperation from congress. Incidentally, the other 2 agencies did NOT downgrade our rating.
0.4%?? He has increased the deficit by BILLIONS of dollars... Additionally, to correct your figures (as reported in the Washington Post), average unemployment in 2009 was 9.3%, average unemployment in 2010 was 9.6% and average unemployment in 2011 was 9.1%. Also remember that any figure that is reported is grossly understated because it doesn't include the millions that are unaccounted for because they have given up looking for work. By modest estimates, the real unemployment figure is 12+%.
Why do you hand tie corporations to want them to hire more expensive U.S. labor? If companies are to compete in the international market they have to offer their goods and services at competitive prices in line with companies in other countries where the cost of labor is much cheaper.
I don't know why anyone even tries to debate teabaggers. I mean really. They keep talking, almost cheering, for the demise of our nation, despite a complete turnaround from the worst recession since the Great Depression. In 2008, jobs were bleeding out at a rate of 750,000/month, banks were collapsing, and the stock market was on a nose dive to obliteration. Now we are gaining jobs, banks are becoming healthy, and the stock market is up 60%. The Christian Taliban can cry and stamp their little feet as hard as they want, they can bash America as much as they want, but their reality seems to be somewhere near Kolob.
The Republican party, as it exists today is doomed in the long run. The only demographic supporting them are OLD, high school educated white men and -- they are dying off. Republicans have no support among blacks, next to no support among Hispanics, very little support among young people, and less than 50% among women. elections are numbers games and the numbers simply aren't adding up for Republicans. The party will not go away but it will change. If not it will simply become a regional party of the deep south.
@JK1963
"millions still unemployed" DUE TO Republican Policies PERIOD. NOT President Obama's policies stupid.
Or are you claiming the economy collapse on President Obama even if he was not in office?
You have to be the dumbest person on this post or Lying. Which one your choice.
solutions,
You are the one that is lying to yourself if you are STILL blaming Bush. Case in point...mind telling me how many jobs were created with those "shovel ready" jobs and at what cost?? That certainly qualifies as the most STUPID thing a president has ever done...
And actually, I think you are the dumbest person, but don't just ask my opinion...I'm sure the majority think so as well...
If you think the country is NOT doing better, you have a poor memory!
...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.
April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.
DJIA Dec 26, 2008 8515
DJIA Sep 13, 2012 13539
Dec 29, 2008 (Bloomberg) U.S. corporate earnings fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.
May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.
from JK1963
The Washington Post is NOT the official source of unemployment figures in the USA. And we're NOT talking about somebody's idea of "average" unemployment over a calendar year, are we? Fiscal years do not follow calendar years. Duh.
And the percentages I quoted are the correct and accepted ACTUAL figures, not just some made-up BS that you apparently pulled from the fertile ground of your imagination.
Now, 0.4% - let me set this straight. Obama's policies have contributed exactly and precisely 0.4% to the current national debt. The original contribution was about $400 billion (due to the Bush tax cuts), but the stimulus is constantly being repaid. Last figures had about $60 billion remaining. Get out a calculator. Divide 15 trillion by 60 billion and divide 100 by the answer - you should get 0.4.
If you righties had any facts on your side at all, you wouldn't need to lie.
Ya know, I used to remember my folks talking politics back in the 60's when neighbors actually used to get together and enjoy each others company. Never can I remember even a heated word exchange between two people who were on opposite sides of the political spectrum. Too bad it can't be that way today. I do miss the likes of Dwight Eisenhower. A man of wisdom and restraint because he knew the horrors of war firsthand. If he were running on the Republican side, I would consider giving him my vote.
He was the ONLY Republican since Lincoln, or maybe Teddy, that deserved to be serving as President of the USA. I wasn't quite old enough yet to vote for him, since I was only10 years old at the time, hehe. And he also warned us about the developing military/industrial complex and we failed to heed his warning. Now look at the mess that has created for this country.
Eisenhower was proof that commanding generals can make a good president. He had the wisdom from being the SAC in Europe. He used that during some of the diciest times of the Cold War. Now flash forward. I could not imagine Romney or Dubya being in that position. The world would have ended in nuclear holocaust. Thank goodness for Ike and JFK.
Ike certainly was a great man, but I'm still "Madly for Adlai!" Governor Stevenson was a great leader who happened to run at the wrong time. Defeating a true war hero was an impossibility for anyone. Given the choice, though, I'd go with Stevenson every time! They were both great American leaders though.
@L H C in Pittsburgh#5.3: I really liked Stevenson too. Ike had a good 1st term, but the 2ed actually deteriorated into a real bad recession from the middle of 58 through 60. Took JFK the better part of 2 years to pull us out of It. Agree, they were both great leaders, but I think Stevenson would have been better. Regards
Ike was a good president but he couldn't get the Republican nomination today. Ronald Reagan couldn't get the Republican nomination today. Today's Republican party is the party of fear, ignorance, division and hate. Neither of those men qualify.
The Republicans idol, Regan, wouldn't even live up to the TEA party's standards.
It's Reagan...with an "a" Satanick. Are there ANY Democrats or Liberals who managed to stay in school past the fifth grade?
My apologies on the misspelling. The point is still valid however.
LMAO Ray- GUN
Not only Reagan, Barry Goldwater would have disowned these twits a long time ago. Barry may have been a conservative but he knew how to compromise.
By the way, I seem to recall that Regan was in Reagan's cabinet.
Okie, yup, that was Donald Regan, Sec of Treasury. But the point about Reagan being too liberal for today's GOP is correct, especially with his at least 8 tax increases and doubling of the national debt.
2000 more on welfare, The only people the Democrats can get to vote for them. Clinton and Gore were worse than the two fools We have in the White House today. At least We know who Obama is sleeping with.
Gary you represent the GOP so well.
Yeah, 20 million jobs created and the final two years with a surplus, man that was terrible. I really don't know how we survived those years. By the way, I hope people remember that during Clinton's last six years in office he had a GOP congress that worked together with him instead of today's obstructionist congress. The GOP is truly anti American as their only goal is to defeat President Obama, they care little for anything else. That is all one needs to know about the GOP that they are willing to take down the country just to win. Pathetic.
Hey Gary -- if Bill Clinton cold run today, he would win in a landslide. If George w. Bush could run again, he would be lucky to carry Texas. At the Republican convention we didn't see George W. Bush, George H. Bush, or Dick Cheney. Republicans want the people to forget their past.
Know the difference between Mitt Witt Romney and Sarah Palin?
Lipstick !
Know the difference in Obama and Osama. Nothing they are both extreme Muslims.
Really Gary?? Really That's all you got?
One is a POTUS about to be re-elected to a second term, the other is dead. NEXT!
Mitt wears lipstick???
Yes, Mitt wears lipstick. It is brown from kissing the Koch brother's, Grover Norquist's and Karl Marx Rove's asses!
All those that keep refering to Obama as a Muslim need to have their asses kicked. That's where they keep their brains that surely need a shake up.
Gary -- you a poster child for Republican Party of the 21st century. All you do is spew out fear, hate and all around ignorance. You're the kind of fool Bill Clinton was talking about.
Tony,
And Bill Clinton did not weigh in on the happenings in Libya during his speech.
He is a man that knows the wisdom of silence while events are unfolding around the world tonight and the true facts are being found.
Men of wisdom don't get caught with their pants down while holding a job entrusted to them by the American public, and then lie through their teeth about it.
and men of wisdom don't send our troops to war and then lie through their teeth about it either.
So the take away here is...there hasn't been a 'man of wisdom' in the white house for quite a while eh?
Never before have so many owed so little to so few. Meaning that the GOP voters owe so little to the so few who are trying to run the party like, like, like Pinky and the Brain.
Brain, What wre we going to do tonight ? Same as every night Pinky, try to take over the world !
GOPinky and the Brain.
Pinky & the Brain a good description of Romney & Ryan, of course Ryan is the Brain, so that means pinky is Romney !
WOW, what a visual !
What are we gonna do tonight Brain?
Bill Clinton talks a lot of sh*t, doesn't he? He is so over...go get a BJ and shut up. Fortunately for Mitt Romey, anyone who Bill Clinton stumps for loses EVERY time. HAHAHA! Obama is ruining my county and yours...isn't it time we did something about it? Even Barack said, 3 years ago, "If I can't get this country back on track I'll be a one term President."
OK....YOU ARE FIRED!
shanaldo - are you normally that stupid or just plain ignorant? Bill Clinton campaigned for Obama in 2008. Guess what? He won.
Ignorant would mean he had the ability to learn, no his words would lead me to qualify him at best simple minded, but probably just stupid
It's time to pull the plug on Cold War defense spending, out of control health care costs, subsidies for the stinking rich oil companies, and let's get our troops out of Afghanistan. A dozen years after Bush went in to save the US oil company's wells in Kuwait for the Exxon, Mobil, Chevron, Arco boys who bought and paid for his presidency, it's time to stop this silly notion that we need a defense department that costs more than 20 times more than the next largest defense department in the world! We need highways, bridges, an upgraded power grid, more electricity from other sources beside oil and coal. Not bigger aircraft carriers, super expensive strike aircraft to fight off those imaginary Russian Migs. It's not the 1950's any more. If you think it is you need to go back to the home and take your pills. Get some rest. It's a fantasy.
Gee!! I have learned that for some Republicans (Not All) they refuse to give the President credit for anything and the blame for everything. It does not matter if their evidence to the contrary of their views all that means is the evidence is a lie. Whether ye be Republican or Democrat remember the things that make this nation of ours great and one of those things is Fair Play, Giving Credit where Credit is Due even if it gives your opponent a Kudo. When will there be a Republican who has the courage to say whats Right at the risk of being Tea bagged because they cherish Honor and Patriotism over political gain. If a Republican emerges with that type of Courage they may find a new following for the Grand Old Party!! Remember NO Mud Slinging at each other we are all Citizens of the Greatest Nation on Earth The United States of America!!
Oh they get thrown out of the party and get labeled something just shy of a traitor.
Arithmetic Over Illusion?
Oh....that's why we owe China so much money! That must be why the Stimulus was enacted! That's gotta be why the defect is astronomical! Clinton is a friggin idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shanaldo numbers - I hope Karl Marx Rove is paying you less than minimum wage. Your comments are not even worth reading let alone paying for. Opps, you are now being ignored.
They don't understand arithmetic, but, hey, at least they know where the exclamation point is on the keyboard. Isn't that wonderful?
I'm beginning to think Shanaldo is sitting in an overly cramped cubicle in Rawalpindi typing these responses. You know how Mitt and the Republicans love outsourcing.
You mean the Rhodes scholar? That idiot?
Idiot is defined on many levels...like an idiot that couldn't keep his pecker in his pants??
Or how about the idiot(s) who are still obsessing over the sex life of a former President?
Or perhaps the idiots that STILL blame someone that has left office 3 1/2 years later and still can't defend the current president, right PJ?
And last I checked, it wasn't because he couldn't keep his member in his pants, but it was because he LIED under oath...and especially being a lawyer to start with, that just compounds the moronic behavior of Clinton.
Or idiots that tear down the only President to right the economy and leave us a surplus? That kind of idiot? We've had a little too much of that kind of idiocy.
Or the President who launched cruise missiles into Sudan in 2008 to divert attention from a very embarrassing decision concerning a certain Miss Lewinsky on the same day. Or the President who smuggled 1,000 mujahedeen into Bosnia between 1993-1995 (including members of the Algerian GIA), armed them and then let them remain in the Balkans where they then went on to plot the Millenium attacks, 9/11 and set up training camps for the Caucasus, Iraq and Afghanistan. Or the President who bombed the wrong side during the Kosovo conflict because he was so intent on demonizing the Serbs and allowing muslims in the Balkans to have a permanent "victim" card. Or the President who authorized the U.S. bombing of purely civilian infrastructure in and around Belgrade and killed European civilians. Or the President who had the terrorist status of the KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) amended so that we could ship arms to yet another known radical islamist faction.
Despite his academic credentials (which were unfortunately tainted by misguided '60s radicalism), he knew surprisingly little of the Arab world and thought that being "placater in Chief" would win their hearts and minds. He was so intent on righting historical wrongs that he saw wrongs where there were none.
I meant to write "Sudan in 1998". These decades tend to blur as I get older.
But even mr grover, the gop, the rushbo, & foxnews.com will tell you the same thing. That mr grover, the rushbo, & foxnews.com call the shots. But they get their talking points and marching orders from the coal & oil kocks. Who pay them $100M/month. It's the kock's way or the highway. Govt by the kocks, of the kocks, & for the kocks. And govt for the people shall vanish from the earth they will tell you. You should have seen the look on the faces of saint paul ryan and his wife when the clint man began talking about how politicians work for you. Hehehe. Everybody knows the gop works for the kocks.
Is this the same Clinton who became the only president in modern times to operate within the budget? Or was that a different one?
Clinton was lucky. He was elected in a year where the internet was just coming into it's own. The dot.com bubble created thousands if not millions of new jobs with all that tax money pouring into the government coffers. Those of whom have brains and were at least young adults at the time know exactly how it happened. Clinton never lifted a finger to get the surplus. It was all on the back of hard working people and technology. It disgusting that he takes credit for something that was happening long before he came around.
If Clinton was lucky then you have to agree that Obama was unlucky... An economy that staggered to produce 95,000 last month is certainly better the the 750,000 jobs loss when Obama came into power.
You can't have it both ways.
heck he don't have to tell me that..2010
Elvis good to see you back here buddy.
Bill, these days an extreme republican is a moderate democrat of 30 years ago. It's the democrat party that has moved to the far left of America.
no corporations are people??
I will believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.
Elv, that statement is a nuance of the Constitution. If we don't like it, let's pass an amendment.
In the meantime, lets not use it as a uber left talking point.
we had order at one time the tea nuts change it
Bill Clinton was paraphrasing what Jeb Bush said about Reagan, what David Eisenhower said about his grand father, and what Patricia Nixon said about her father.
Nothing left in the GOP but a hand full of moderates and a freak show.
I think you have the direction wrong. The Republicans have moved RIGHT, and everyone who didn't go right with them moved to independent or democrat, it's not that the democrats have moved, it's the republicans, we just picked up the people they left behind.
The further they move to the right the smaller the republican party will be, it's as simple as that.
Clinton said calls for austerity measures and tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans are irresponsible given the country's slow economic growth.
Austerity has never worked. Look at England. They were on about the same track to recovery as we are, until they got a conservative in charge. He slashed the budget and what happened? A double dip recession.
Voodoo economics has a 30 year history of failure. The aristocracy got their tax cuts and what happened? Their income went up 380% while ours shrank. The numbers of Americans looking for work peaked in 2000 and has been going down ever since. That's when people started giving up on participating in this economy because their jobs were being exported.
The republicons passed a law giving tax cuts to corporations that export American jobs and have blocked the Democratic attempts to repeal that POS not once, but twice.
So.....after 30 years Where are the jobs!!
miklkit - so true, so true! Time to vote as many GOPers out of office as possible.
Funny that only a few short months ago, Clinton endorsed continuing the current tax levels and calling Obama an Amateur. How time flies.
commonamerican1 - That is a fact that these extremest lefties can google if they do not believe it.
Poor Bill, he wants to get back, even as first dude. Do not believe whatever they have promissed you.
I too will believe that a corporation is a person when Texas excutes one!
Pinky & the Brain have ZERO chance of winning. They have no plan that they will share with the american people because they know if they told what they will do they will lose sooooo big it will set a new record !
OBAMA 2012 move foward not backward
Sheldon Adelson? The Koch bros.? The 100 Israeli donors who pooled their resources to finance an anti-Islamist movie?
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Hussein Obama continues his tacit approval of Muslims killing Americans.
Hussein Obama hates Israel and loves his Muslim faith.
He calls it 'leading from behind'.
I call it 'furthering the Muslim goal of world domination'.
“The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.”.
-Barak Hussein Obama
“today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we’ve long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay — and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.”
-Barak Hussein Obama
Failed POTUS
look down..and read...the constitution is on your party's agenda..meaning more changes
so tell me who would be the ruler if that happens...your party only
Obama is trying to get so close to Clinton, he's leading from Clinton's behind.
sorry did you have a brain fart commo
Obama's lips are so firmly planted on Clinton's behind that if Hillary wants to talk to the president, she has to say "turn around Bill, I need to talk to Barry"
look how many local state laws they have changed just for their cause alone people.the tea party?
just a few more tea party in the senate a tea party President...and the new picks of the supreme Court judges..and the mark of the beast will Begin..a new constitution..and this is no joke
Next time we feel the need to go to war with radical extremist perhaps we can look in our own back yard rather than in other nations.
The Tea Party and radical religous nuts are the American Taliban.
yes they are...this is who God talks about in the bible...but they are to blind to see its them.they are the ones who God talks about ..not some camel jokey in the Arab world
when Christ left the earth he told his disciples the enemy will come from within you..meaning the Church.they will come in my name sake..now look at all the tea party
And yet you extremists survive.
I'm a believer in Christ...just like peter Paul..john so forth...they were killed and tortured..by people who were teachers of the law of god..and worshipers of God...I'm a believer of Christ..just like my father before me...your cause by force are no different that them com
American By Birth Southern By the Grace of God - Do you think you could have gotten a bigger name?
If the Tea Party are the American Taliban then the Lefty Liberals are al qaeda.
Wow Elvis, you are a radical one. Guy, you are in the wrong Country.
the left don't want to change the constitution..yeah funny a lefty that believes in God and Christ something huh
concern..now read what i said again..slowly
It's hard to believe the polls...B.O. should be losing by a mile!
Pete-3829689
Why because of all the money spent to defeat him? Or, is it because you liked the Republicans a lot as they took the country down the drain the last time they had the power?
Explain yourself ... if you can.
Pete-3829689,
The answer is simple as to why Romney is not winning by 10 points plus. He never inspired any excitement in the Republican Party during the primaries and in fact had to withstand a series of "Tea Party Darlings" propped up to take him out (Perry, Gingrich, Cain, Santorum) but each was a better outlier ideologue than the last. The "good" Republican candidates (serious, thoughtful, fact-based) like Pawlenty and Huntsman never had a chance.
Now? we all KNOW things aren't as good as they should be but what do we get from Romney and Ryan? Our "principles" should be enough...and they are not. The Democrats have done a good job of painting Ryan as a leader in the worst Congress since Reconstruction (with positive job ratings below 20%) and his numbers haven't added up either. Why can't Romney pull ahead? His likeability numbers SUCK...people. just. don't. like. him.
Finally, the Republican Tent has become so small that the demographics are killing them. 1/3 of the population of Arizona is Hispanic and over 800,000 Hispanics in North Carolina who feel painted with the illegal immigraiton brush. Elderly in Florida concerned repealing Obamacare will hurt them and Ohio is MUCH better off today than they were four years ago because of the auto Bailout. And Romney has to basically SWEEP those Swing states to win...
And please notice I did that without name calling or personalizing...
And yet Obama is Beating him in all the major polls! I guess Pinky & the Brain just can't cut it.
"What are we gonna do tonight brain? "
Same thing we do every night Pinky, try to take over the world! We start by running for President of the United States then......"