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OWENSVILLE, OH -- By Wednesday afternoon, Paul Ryan took a harsher tone against President Barack Obama and aligned himself with his running mate, Mitt Romney, regarding the attacks on Americans in the Middle East.
“The administration sent mixed signals to those who attacked our embassy in Egypt, and mixed signals to the world. I want to be clear: It is never too early for the United States to condemn attacks on Americans, on our properties and to defend our values,” Ryan told the crowd in the battleground state of Ohio. “That’s what leadership is all about.”
The GOP vice presidential nominee continued: “This administration’s policies project weakness abroad. Undercutting allies like Israel, outreach to enemies like Iran, national security leaks and devastating defense cuts. A weak America breeds insecurity and chaos around the world. The best guarantee of peace is American strength.”
At Ryan’s first event of the day, in his home state of Wisconsin, the seven-term congressman focused less on policy and more on the tragedy itself.
“The attacks on our diplomatic missions in Egypt and Libya and the loss of four American lives including our Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens – this is outrageous,” Ryan said in De Pere, Wis. “Our hearts are heavy and our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families and I would just like to ask at this moment that we join together in a moment of silence in memory of them.”
While at both events, Ryan promised the crowd here that a Romney-Ryan foreign policy would follow the “peace thru strength” doctrine, the event seemed to coincide with rhetoric Mitt Romney used towards Obama Wednesday morning.
Speaking at a press conference in Jacksonville, Fla. early Wednesday, Romney said the president "demonstrated a lack of clarity as to foreign policy” regarding the attacks.
“It’s their administration that spoke,” Romney told reporters at a press conference in Florida. “The president takes responsibility not just for the words that come from his mouth but also for the words that come from his ambassadors, from his administration, from his embassies, from his State Department. They clearly sent mixed messages to the world.”
President Barack Obama fired back at the GOP ticket during an interview with CBS's 60 Minutes.
"There's a broader lesson to be learned here, and, you know, Governor Romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later. As president, one of the things I've learned is you can't do that," Obama said. "It's important for you to make sure that the statements you make are backed up by the facts, and that you thought through the ramifications before you make them."
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One of the things Obama has NOT learned- what to do when adversaries do not swoon at your feet, and swear undying fealty.
No extra security at out Embassies on 9/11.
Blaming a film clip for the attacks.
The first statement- an apology to the Terrorists.
Eight hours elapse before a statement condemning the attacks.
Obama =Carter- sans morality.
He's got to go.
There is NO excuse for a Presidential candidate inserting himself into fast breaking issues that he knows nothing about.
You step forward, you say "at this time we are all Americans" and you SHUT UP.
But that would require sense, and love of country, something the right wing lacks.
Right no jo?
Hey- this new systems GREAT. There isn't even an "ignoring author" line to click,if you happen to be curious.
You're talking to yourself, new day.
Really, no jo? And yet you respond.
Obviously, you could say the same thing about Obama. And he's our leader.
newday...she's not that bright...
Truer words never spoken, Shockedanddisgusted!
The first statement was issued before the walls of the embasy were breached.
Is there no end to your distortions?
[He's got to go.]
NoJo, another non-spiracy to cuddle with I see...just like Bidens "outrageous" nerve to CHARGE the Secret Service detail protecting him RENT for RENTING a cottage on HIS property...
So, what's your next false outrage going to be...no more tampons at WalMart?
Oh, hey...hows that big FAT teachers pension check working for you, compliments of the New Jersey taxpayer?
Classless hypocrite you are....
It was said before the attacks AND it wasn't an apology. It just pointed out that attacking religion is not the American way; a sensible point to make distancing our government and the majority of Americans from the nutcase that made the film. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts!
Feel free to check the timeline at ht tp ://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13831714-timeline-political-fallout-from-the-attack-on-diplomats-in-libya?lite
Ms. nojo's comment, "The first statement- an apology to the Terrorists" is false and a reprehensible accusation that only demeans the deaths of those folks that stood up for American values of freedom of religion.
Oh, and NoJo....while you're whipping up another tall tale of fake outrage:
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2012/09/12/13834807-fact-check-romney-misstates-facts-on-attacks
And stop the lying, please...you are just as ugly without them....
If he has to go, then you and everyone else agrees to bring criminal charges for abdicating his responsability to protect our Country to the one person who was told, forwarned, showed, that Bin laden was to attack the US . and He did nothing to protect our Country.
Agreed??
How do you Republicans sleep at night exploiting the death of our ambassador to score cheap partisan points. Just when you thought the right reached a new low, they somehow manage to dig deeper.
What a STUPID comment. Do you know that Osama B was KILLED by orders of President Obama, and do you know that Obama has kept his promises, and HAS DISMANTLED AL-QUEIDA.
WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ARE YOU???? can't you see or hear or are you so BRAIN-WASHED THAT CAN'T SEE BEYOND YOUR NOSE??????
50 US marines have been DEPLOYED TO SECURE THE EMBASSY. THERE ARE US DRONES TO IDENTIFY MILITANT ATTACKERS, ALSO THERE ARE 2 NAVY DESTROYERS POSITIONED OUTSIDE THE LYBIAN COAST; TOMAHAWK MISSILE CRUISERS.
DON'T SHOW YOUR STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE REPUBLICANS
Not even "cheap Partisan points"! They are nothing but lies designed to attack President Obama. For God's sake, how many kinds of slime and nastiness does a person have to have to knowingly slander using a subject like this?
Ranks right up there with lying about Pat Tillman for political gain.
Just when I thought Romney/Ryan had finally hit the bottom of their slime campaign......this new low. No sympathy extended to the victims, no ability to take responsibility for a monumental blunder, desperately using wrong propaganda from a extremist blogger, attacking Americans WHILE they are trying survive. Romney is not only ignorant, he is dangerous.
Indecent. Despicable. Shameful. Unpatriotic.
Pathological liar nojo nobrain got in early. Whee. And got it all wrong.
You democrats that want to keep throwing up the past...Lets take a look at your tally of wars that you have gotten Americans into and killed
1. Korea
2. Vietnam
and i won't count WWII but as i see it you all have been more responsible for getting us into and killing more Americans than the republicans, so if you do want to get stuck in the past, go way back and you should hang your heads in shame.
JimD-406742 -- Just like Romney!
Not only is there no excuse it's dangerous. He is stepping on ground best not tread on.
Brutus was a traitors name you know.
All of the Repubtards hopping aboard Romney's bus to nowhere are ignoring the timeline of events. They continue to ignore facts. Romney was fact checked on his criticism of Obama's handling of the crisis and determined he twisted events and distorted timelines. He also lied about an apology given by Obama.
http://factcheck.org/2012/09/romney-gets-it-backward/
wake up Republitards, you selected the wrong candidate... Ron Paul or Perry would have been a much better choice. Romney has been anything but presidential in foreign policy matters...
What hyperbole from Romney/Ryan.
Did the President make and show that movie on YouTube? NO.
What "mixed signals" were sent. NONE.
If Obama is responsible for everything his administration says, then Romney is responsible for everything the Republican party says.
AL said, "How do you Republicans sleep at night exploiting the death of our ambassador to score cheap partisan points. Just when you thought the right reached a new low, they somehow manage to dig deeper."
I say...How do you libs sleep at night ignoring the death of a border agent to score cheap partisan points and hide from the truth. Just when you thought the left has reached a new low, they somehow manage to dig deeper.
Obama knew about violence coming our way courtesy of the Egyptian intelligence days in advance. Did he beef up security especially considering 9-11. Maybe he didn't know being as he doesn' attend all security briefings and Valerie Jarrett didn't tell him or Biden forgot. Obama either they are an ally or an enemy no inbetween. Cheap political points I think not. Romney can not defend America before Obama so it is wrong. If we wait for Obama it could be days, remember the underwear bomber in Detroit. Obama cannot stick around D.C. while all these protests go on in the Middle East nor meet with the Israeli PM because of scheduling conflicts. Yeah I guess fundraising and golf would be a higher priority than Israel and Iran and nuclear weapons. Romney and Ryan a better choice than what we got now, Mr Apology, whiner teleprompter-in- Chief and Mr. I don't know what century I am in.
Romney openly condemns the White House during an international crisis; and then he accuses the White House of sending mixed signals. A smart man knows when to shut up.
I'll count WWII; you're right. The Democrats were responsible for going to war with Fascism. Many Republicans, in fact, embarrassed Fascism. One of the most notable was Prescott Bush (GW's grandfather). You might also google "Business Plot".
Korea - Yep, under a Democratic President. I'm sure the Republican Party would have had no problem with South Korea falling under the Communist north.
Vietnam - First troops deployed under Dwight D. Eisenhower - Republican. 1955
Americans are dead Ryan u freakin turd take off your political hat for a second. GOP and consrevatives are pure garbage.
Headlines;
The U.S. ambassador to Libya was raped sexually before killing by gunmen who stormed the embassy building in Benghazi last night to protest against the film is offensive to the Prophet Muhammad”
-”The sources told AFP said that ‘Ambassador was killed and representation of his body in a manner similar to what happened with Gaddafi, such as murder.’”
Wake up stupid Americans and realize that islam and democracy cannot co-exist, what is it going to take to get that in your heads. Pull every American soldier out from all muslim countries and tell the civilians who choose to go or stay there not to call on Americans for help when they turn on them and stab them in the back. Do not give them another dime of our tax dollars, these people want to kill each other and when other countries interfer they turn on them. I say let them do so. Our President should have a news anouncement and tell all islamic countries that they are on there own, and if they attach America or any of its true allies every one of them will be sent to meet their Allah. If we would treat our closest neighbors fairly we could purchase all of the oil we need from them and would not need any arab oil. Aside from that, we really have enough oil in our own country to supply our needs for hundreds of years if we had a President with a backbone that would do everything he could to open up these reserves, we would not need oil from anyone.
So Ryan decided to roar...but I'm guessing with Myth doing a walk back on his earlier rhetoric, we will be seeing Ryan do the same in 5, 4, 3, 2....
What a pair of maroons.
God how nice it will be to have a REAL President again!
You will not find a real president in Romney, was that a presidential performance today???
Perhaps you considered "W" a real president. That is hard to believe.
Oh, yes, it will. President Romnit-witKochBuffetAdelson will do fine. The chair behind the desk in the oval office might be a bit crowded, but Mitnit-wit can always sit on the floor.
justaplumber - You have a real president your just too stupid to notice it
What hyperbole from Romney/Ryan.
Did the President make and show that movie on YouTube? NO.
What "mixed signals" were sent. NONE.
If Obama is responsible for everything his administration says, then Romney is responsible for everything the Republican party says.
It will be nice to have a President you can respect again. One who has leadership skills. One who has morals and a love for his country again. We have been without that for four years now.
Justaplumber
Amen !! Have to agree with you. We have to get the Muslim leader we presently have in office out .
rukidding47
"It will be nice to have a President you can respect again. One who has leadership skills. One who has morals and a love for his country again. We have been without that for four years now."
Already have one thank you and just to let you know....we intend to keep him. Go back to sleep since that must be what you have been doing for the last 12 years.
Rangewolf, what Muslim President are you referring to? If you are referring to the President of the United States you would be wrong.
If you had bothered to educate yourself before showing us all that you are indeed not an educated person, you would have found that the President of the United States of America is a Christian. Too bad you are not. Do us all a favor please just LOOK IT UP. It only takes a second and you will not seem so ignorant or hateful.
bck
I need hip boots to get thru what your shoveling.
Obama a christian? Sure he is. I can say I am a liberal and that would have as much truth to it.
I havent been asleep 12 yrs but you sure have for four if you think this clown is anything but a clown.
Plumber so a real president in your mind invest in foreign economies, takes American pensions for self profit, ships jobs overseas, takes a $700,000 tax credit out for a show horse, insults allies, insults and talks down to the middle class, thinks this tragedy is a joke (smiking 15 times during the incidents press conference), politicizes tragedies (like your boy Bushtard).
Just to name a few if that in your mind is a real president than I'll take the one we currently have.
Go back to your made up church and eat another chicken sandwich you conservative hack.
BUCKEROOBONZI what the hell are you talking about? Since when did we decide to add extra security on 9/11 to our embassies? You just came up with that because YOU think you could be president? Sit down and shut the @!$%# up, we've got enough backseat drivers in this country and its real easy to second guess from the sidelines. Extra security on 9/11, what the hell are you talking about? Show us evidence that has ever been a problem at our embassies?
bckrd1
Wrong !!! Obama has admitted to being a Muslim and has said that if he had to choose sides he would go with the Muslims. Do your research and stop believing all the smoke the Libs are blowing up your azz.
We have the four stooges running our country
The clown, Obama and his three stooges, Biden, Polosi and Reid. You Libs are a laugh a minute but we aren't laughing now. The chicken-in chief and his chicks have failed us American citizens and our country. We are fighting to get our country back and we will win. !!
Ryan now joins Romney as a callous, opportunistic, politician who will do anything to get elected, even when it is against the interest of America. His true colors are showing and they aren't red, white, and blue.
I am sorely disappointed that they have chosen to take this path and use the death of a vibrant youg Ambassador to misstate comments by our state department and president is such a callous and underhanded way. Apparently they believe in going back to the old days of sabre rattlling and pompous belligerence. To go forward choose (D) to go backwards choose (R) it is your vote. I am so ashamed that these politicians claim they are patriotic. This is one of the slimiest things I have ever seen done in politics.
I seem to remember another candidate blaming a sitting president for a situation at one of our embassies.
I seem to remember the press making much of the "political nature" of the attacks.
I also remember hostages being released the very day that candidate was sworn into office- because they took seriously his threat to turn their country into a hole in the ground if they did not.
Obama =Carter- sans morality.
no joe, your comparison of Carter to Obama is absurd, but Romney and Bush, pretty similar, even the same "advisers".
Carter and Obama. Both 1 term presidents. That's pretty similar.
"Well before Reagan became president, the deal for releasing the hostages had already been worked out by the Carter administration's State Department and the Iranians, ably assisted by Algerian diplomats," said David Farber, a Temple University historian and author of Taken Hostage: The Iranian Hostage Crisis and America's First Encounter with Radical Islam.
"No Reagan administration officials participated in the successful negotiations," Farber added
PolitiFact| Mitt Romney says the Iranians released hostages in 1981 because they feared
Ronald Reagan's approach to foreign p
There is no end to the lies you spout
Navy,
I agree.
Ryan is talking to two audiences, those who want to vote for the GOP ticket and of course his congressional district voters.
He has nothing to lose to in the middle of Wisconsin today.
it is a sad day.
President Reagan also negotiated with terrorists on more than one occasion.
PAUL RYAN HAS always been callous, opportunistic and now he has proved to be STUPID AND A LIAR.
Wow ... Paul "CUPCAKE" Ryan got his panties in a twist again? Must be serious ...Oh yeah his bromance is about to end ...His partner in crime stepped in "deep Mitt today "..all but ending his bid for the presidency ...his 3am call came and Mittens hit the snozeeeee ! Back to the country club for these two knuckleheads !
Being from Ryan's district, I cannot wait to see him fall on his face for the next 2 months. RMoney AND Ryan will lose both of their home states. What an embarassment! The reality of a Democratic house increases every day. You can see the panic in republicans really kicking in, and they deserve the a$$kicking they are going to receive on election day. This will be a landslide election year, mark my words.
spud - I hope - there is a pretty good candidate running against Ryan in his district
He might be driving the weiner mobile again - Wait - he did get himself wealthy - in Congress didn't he?
How do you go from a weiner mobile driver to the 25th wealthiest person in Congress?
Matthew - Reagan and the Bush machine sent Bill Casey head of the CIA to Iran and promised weapons if they held the hostages until after the election
Heard of the Iran-Contra affair - all tied together
Too bad Casey died of a so-called brain tumor before he could testify before the Iran-Contra hearings
Isn't it strange now that Iran is our arch enemy to think that the hero of the right wing sold arms to them to fund another unpopular and illegal covert war?
It is to me, and this is after years of seeing them say one thing and do the exact opposite, but this still seems out of place.
Selling missiles to the Axis of Evil. Brought to you by Ronald Reagan. I guess that was before you just went to the Koch Brothers and asked for half a billion dollars.
Obama = Failure
Romney - Ryan 2012
Obama is Carter on steroids.
(St)rangewolf
Get your meds ready on Nov 6th when Obama and Biden get to go for another 4 years. I suggest Xanax for you and all of your ilk - and lots of it so that the veins in your forehead don't burst. Romney is the worst candidate the Repubs have ever served up.
"We don't need no education"
Pretty well explains it all.
Get off your Xanax and stop trying to push them on others. You druggies are all alike, you want others to do the research and thinking for you because you know you are incapable.
Obama is a weak wimp and waits for the radical Muslims to tell him what to do. As an American, you area failure, just like your Messiah.
Go back to school and get an education, a job and make yourself useful.
Navy Pilot
You haven't been paying attention to the Obama administration then. There is NOTHING Obama won't do to be re-elected, including letting high security secrets leak. Obama was fully aware of what was going to happen. He has a personal vendetta against the Navy Seals. Okay, you can go back to sleep now.
Google search Drone strike American in Yemen. Then realize we have no Constitutional rights with Obama as President!
When will the press ask Obama about this MURDER?
OMG!!
We we have no Constitutional rights????
Well you do, until Obama has you terminated.
How infantile.
No constitutional rights, but yet you see to have the right to post on this site. Just goes to show you, that you can't fix stupid.
Well Joe, if you allied yourself with terrorists, were not in America at the time, and were planning to kill Americans or inciting others to harm American, I would cheer if they shot a drone up your a55.
I guess you revere Anawar Al-Aulqai, If he's your idol and you identify with him, feel free to move to Yemen as you clearly seem unAmerican and pro-terrorist or an American Taliban. Either that or your a complete moron. My money is on both.
Bottom line, these drone strikes work. I didn't know you belonged to the new cowardly republican class.
joe finds truth and dinner in the toilet drain. You can't expect too much from the poor guy.
I am fine with the drone strikes. That is how the U.S. is killing the al qaeda maniacs who want to kill Americans. It is a way to kill the terrorists without having to put our soldiers in harms way. President Obama is using high tech drones that can find those devious killers planting those bombs on the roads to kill our soldiers. Then they know right where they are and they aren't going to kill anyone. President Obama is doing things wisely and you can see that Romney is not wise and he cares nothing about most Americans. He is a one percenter for the one percent like the Koch brothers and so many other republican billionaires that don't want to pay fair taxes that they have stashed in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda and Switzerland.
Wasn't it Bush that said you are either with us or with the terrorists. Clearly that drone strike was aimed at the people who were with the terrorists. If one of the terrorists happened to be born in America and defected to Yemen for ideological beliefs - THEN SO BE IT! You will reap what you sow!
America -- Nov/12 will put the repubtards and all of their ignorance but in their place! And that is not in the House or Senate.
REP heads will be exploding on Nov 7/12 and I am already stock piling the popcorn and treats to watch!
We can see why you are just a plumber. Your head has been in the toilet too long.
Romney and Ryan -- loyal only to their own cause.
Who really gives a rats @$$ what that lying little turd Ryan has to say!
Al, I believe you asked this question,
"How do you Republicans sleep at night exploiting the death of our ambassador to score cheap partisan points. Just when you thought the right reached a new low, they somehow manage to dig deeper."
Let me ask you a question. Why do the democrats parade around Gabby every chance they get? I would call that exploiting a terrible tragedy. Hypocrite.
(Dis)informed02 - very classy retort - I'd rate it a number 2 just like in your post name.
Myth Robme and Lyin have no clue, there was no apology, yes there was a condemnation of the film before any violence, and there was condemnation of the violence once it was underway. Myth statement was a baseless lie which he is now deeply regretting.
Yes, I agree. Except for the "deeply" regretting part, for this seems to imply that Mitt has a conscience.
Conscience: "The sense or consciousness of the moral goodness or blameworthiness of one's own conduct, intentions, or character together with a feeling of obligation to do right or to be good."
Doesn't sound like Mitt at all.
"Peace through strength". Here we go again. Another hawk ready to throw other people's kids into the hell known as the Middle East.
Why is it that every Republican's solution is "let's invade!"?
"Peace through strength" is just an excuse to shove us into another war. "Let's flex our military muscles!" Blah, blah, blah.
And how much will it cost us this time?
By the way, the only apologizing that has happened has been from the Libyan government. The Muslim Brotherhood condemned these attacks and are asking for PEACEFUL demonstrations.
You know, like Christians did for "The Last Temptation of Christ"?
Steel rain. Use the drones. I do not want our men and women in harms way. Lets just rain steel on their heads.
We have to do something to get their attention. As long as they do not fear a reprisal, they will continue to do the same thing over and over. They have done it time and time again.
Use drones on WHO? You want to bomb population centers over the death of 4 people? It's like you don't even care to take a minute and work thru the problems of what you are proposing.
The civilians in Libya very much fear reprisal. The attackers WANT it. They want war, it's what they've dedicated their lives to - dying for this cause. Normally I'd be happy to oblige them, but there are much bigger stakes here than revenge.
Romney/Ryan attacks are irresponsible during a diplomatic crisis. A clear sign they are they are not ready to lead this country. They have no foreign or diplomatic experience between them.
I do not understand why this administration does not and will not take a harder stance against the Muslim world.
Why do we constantly walk on egg shells around them. Because we are afraid. That is why. We are afraid that they will do something like what they did in Libya.
Why appease them. The kill each other, they own the governments and they murder any one in the name of honor.
Why does this administration kiss their collective asses? We need to have peace by strength. They do not believe we are willing to do what it takes to win. So far we have not shown them our resolve.
We threaten and sanction to what end? None.
We need to kick their a$$. Let the dog off the chain.
When they know that we will, then they will be running scared.
Obama, ROmney does not matter but someone needs to get their crap together and as Tobey Keith would say...Put a boot up their a$$.
And yet, Osama bin Laden is still dead.
right and the democrats cannot stop spiking the ball which our dear leader promised he would never do -- but it was said 21 times during the convention.
disgusting behavior by disgusting politicians on the left
Knight: What's the "Muslim World'? Our allies in Jordan, Kuwait, Turkey, Egypt, Tunisia and the United Arab Emirates? Should we "bomb them" for no apparent reason?
Why is it right-wingers can't understand that not all "Muslims" are the same person? Some are radicals who hate us. Others are indifferent to us. Some have mixed feelings. Many are our allies. Is the right-wing mind so simple it can't grasp that?
new day,
yes he is and if there is a God, burning in hell with no virgins, but that was one man, We still need to step it up against the muslim extremists. This is not a case cut off the head of the snake and the snake dies, it is cut off the head and 2 take it place.
Tracey S,
You are right. If you will see I said muslim extremists in 10.4. Why is it that libbies like to be so technical. LIke when Obama said no one asked him about his Muslim faith and then corrected himself. Take it in context.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M
NDD - Is that all you have, "OBL is dead"? I am glad that the President gave the order to take OBL out with a covert operation. However, he could have used a drone, as he has used numerous times in Pakistan and Yemen. BTW, President Bush had already given an order to kill or capture OBL and the military could have carried it out without Obama's approval, unless Obama withdraw Bush's authorization.
BTW, the purpose of going into Afghanistan was to capture or kill OBL and his Lieutenants. That has been accomplished, so why in the hell are we still there? OBL has been dead for well over a year. We don't need Afghanistan, who by the way, just signed an agreement with Iran for use of a seaport.
Knight: which your President has done, taking out more of them than George Bush did.
NYTimes:
But the strikes that have eviscerated Al Qaeda — just since April, there have been 14 in Yemen, and 6 in Pakistan —
You obviously don't understand anything!
Using a Drone Strike against OBL would have left no conclusive proof of his death. Since facts are your weak points. Reagan was the toughest Repub in the past 30 years. Remember Lebanon, 200+ Marines were killed in a bombing. So what did Reagan do, oh that's right he pulled out right away.
BTW, I see nothing wrong with playing nice as long as we are relentless in the pursuit of these terrorists. Yes OBL is dead, but to pull out the day after his death would have set up the situation to start another OBL type in Afghanistan. It could still happen but at least we will be out of there on 2014. The right would not have us leave at all.
I'm sorry Billybobbin if the previous administration had something to crow about they would have. You know like Mission Accomplished then another 2000 soldiers died. BTW, if the right keeps up with the BS that Obama is weak in foreign policy despite the results then Obama can shove a REAL mission accomplished feat down the right's throat.
The President has also had killed many of the top Al-Qaeda leaders. It's almost a running joke. Everytime a new #2 leader is appointed a few months later he ends up dead.
The top guy now, Hyman Al-Zawarhiri, is too scared to show his face. He leaves that to his numerous #2 guys, who usually end up dead. Usually by way of what you call "steel rain": drones.
~Knight - So you are saying that we should invest more money that we do not have in another failed mess in the middle east? I know Desert Storm was a success, but other than that we have accomplished absolutely nothing in that area. The people do not want us there. We do not belong there. Let them blow themselves up and spend the billions on our own country. That sounds patriotic to me. Jobs jobs jobs, not war war war. Let's get the US up and running again and they can waste away in the stone age for all we should care.
-Knight - have you even been paying attention to the Libyan situation? Whose ass are we supposed to kick, the people holding up signs apologizing for the attack? Those are the civilians most likely to suffer from any type of retaliation.
They very much realize what we can do (hell we just helped them topple a 3 decade old dictatorship in a matter of weeks), and the normal people who live in these countries fear it. The people perpetuating these attacks DON'T CARE. They WANT to die. The threat of a violent response is EXACTLY why they commit these atrocities. You would have us play into their hands.
Hahaha. No Ryan, a reduction in the rate of growth of the defense budget is not a cut. I thought this guy was the policy genius? He doesn't even know what a budget cut is. If I gain 10 pounds every year but this year I only expected to gain 7, I wouldn't say that I lost weight. There is no defense 'cuts', just reductions in how fast the defense budget will grow.
Not to mention, the Department of Defense fully supports the restraints on the U.S. military budget.
Damn, Satan
I was beginning to think I was the only one that understood that.
You are 100% correct - no defense CUTS have been even suggested - only slowing down the rate of growth.
Another departure from the truth for the radical right.
Obama Nero, fiddling and fund raising.
His utter lack of leadership contributes to Islamist and Iranian hegemony.
Frankly, we're gonna be better off if he does absolutely nothing but campaign until November.
Then he can start packing his bags.
Go Ryan!! BUT, no one has yet chastised Hillary, for not seeing to it that, of all times, 9/11 was the time to secure all of our embassies abroad...she's a lousy leader as well...
traditional Catholic - Hillary Clinton is one of our best Secretary of States ever - and it is not her job to secure anything
By the way you do know this is 11 years after 9/11 - and our Embassies have always been secured
Look at Condoleeza Rice - Osama determined to strike in the USA - Condaleeza's expertise was about Russia - not the world stage
And how many Secretary of States have we had since 9/11? Rice 8 years and Clinton 3
Your ignorance defies logic - Say three Hail Mary's - three Glory Be's and three Our Father's and grow a brain
What do you people think, they told all the security guards to go home? Or Embassies rely mainly on the goodwill of the host country to remain secure, they are not fortresses. Often just houses surrounded by a fence.
The Libyan diplomat wasn't even killed at the embassy, BTW. He was trying to get back there.
The draft dodger and his little boy toy have reached a new low...i'm sure they'll dig deeper.
bob -- to whom are you referring when you talk about a draft dodger?
billybob, Obama was not old enough to be drafted during the Vietnam War - the last war for which there was a draft. Therefore, Obama can NOT be a draft dodger simply because in the absence of a draft you can't dodge it.
Romney ACTIVELY dodged the draft by absenting himself from our shores during Vietnam. He decided that he had "more important things to do" by taking a mission to France and EXTENDING IT so as to not be available for the draft. Also, there was GWB who "enlisted" in the National Guard to avoid the draft and went AWOL during Guard duty. Romney also has said that his 5 sons have work that is "too important (working in their dad's campaign) to serve their country in the military.
Unlike some men that I know (like my dad) who VOLUNTEERED during Vietnam (first in the ROTC and then as a commissioned officer when he graduated in 1968) and SERVED during Vietnam.
There is a picture of Romney carrying a sign supporting the war with others for the Viet Nam War. But then we find out he spent three years in France and did not go to war like so many who joined or were drafted. Kerry joined up but was swiftboated by lying republicans and republican billionaires who wanted to harm his military experience. Kerry was brave for going to war and serving valiantly. The GOP is so ruthless at attacking the good of someone to bring that down so people stop supporting the good of that person. Kerry was treated horribly and unjustly.
Wow Ryan is talking about real issues..now??????
just think tomorrow he can talk about another thing taxes
How many muslems have we killed...pull out the wiki leaks.Ryan
How many confirmed Kills of American citizens has Obama scored? At least one!
Theres a Obama first! Best at Killing his own people!
I'm ok with killing any American who fights alongside Al-Queda.
You gotta problem with that?
Hey Mr Plumber man, how many American lives have been lost because a warmongering RWNJ who happened to be in the Oval Office wanted personal revenge against Saddam Hussein? Over 7000! (And on April 06, 2004 my cousin became one of them) SO... Until you are ready to put YOUR and your family's "Boots on the ground" over there, I would respectfully insist that you STFU!
I was wondering when Miss Mittsy's butt-boy was going to chime in and attempt to defend his unAmerican sugar-daddy.
Pathetic. They should both close their mouths and lose with a little dignity.
Obama's foreign policy has failed thus destabilizing the Middle East.
Obama owns this.
Obama's policies are working. It is people like you trying to undermine those policies. Romney/Ryan are loser and not fit to be President and Vice President of the United States. The America people are not looking for war.
The Middle East was never stable to begin with, what planet have you been living on the last 4 decades?
I wounder how R/R will handle Iran..you think they will give weapons of mass destruction to them like Reagan did.to get in office.that's how carter lost .secrete meetings with Iran..The republicans
As if it all wasn't reprehensible enough, Fox had to double down on the gutter behavior by posting a picture of the ambassador on their website, a photo of him being dragged through the street. It's unknown if he was already deceased or not. Fox seems proud of themselves, bragging "We'll be the only website that will post this!" This makes me SICK for this man's family, as there's likely no way to avoid that once it starts going viral by the gutter scum that inhabit the right wing.
I've been around a long time, have seen many many elections go by. This behavior by Romney, and now Ryan, is about as bad as anything I've ever seen. Just sick.
That is horrid and if Fox did that they should be censored for showing that evil. How pathetic.
What is it about these RWNJs that make them want to attack every other nation on earth? Do they not realize that anything short of going nuclear will bring reprisals from the rest of the Muslim world, and going nuclear will bring reprisals from the REST of the world. The answer is not, as ~Knight suggested above, "rain steel" on them, as that will only incite greater resentment and anger and death. I am SO THANKFUL we have a statesman and diplomat as a president.
Yes the only folks Obama attacks is Americans! What about that?
You Libs are so all about peoples rights until it gets in the way of your Hero and his Ideoligy!
I'm ok with killing any American who fights alongside Al-Queda.
You gotta problem with that???
Well,I had a little respect for Ryan when he was in Wisconsin today and did not slam the President at all.Instead he said all Americans should come together.Now that Romney has pulled him aside he comes out with this almost verbatim statement.Like I said,I did have some respect for him but not now.
It's inspiring to see how a great leader responds to unfathomable problems and crisis's, cool, methodical, and wise. Reactionary outrage typically reflects weakness and stupidity. President Obama is intelligent, masterful, and lethal when he needs to be.
Don't underestimate the President's capabilities.
Yes that American citizen in Yemen doesn't underestimate Obama being "lethal" anymore.
Yup... he sucked a drone.
He was an enemy combatant.
You must be a pinko.
Support our troops, not theirs.
justaplumber is obviously an extremist Muslim sympathiser...he just spouts this same dreck over and over again about an enemy combatant. Yep, obviously a traitor to our country.
Left Wing Nut Job
Obama is the Muslim leader and does whatever they tell him to do. Take your blindfolds off and use your brain instead of listening to MSN. What has Obama REALLY done for us and our country? Nothing !!!
Uber left, I don't really blame you for doing nothing but Romney bashing. It's all you have.
Sorry common, many conservatives believe Romney had a royal f_ck up. True story.
Its always easier to call for the proper plan afterwards--"this is what I would have done." The Republican candidates are armchair quarter backs but lets recall that neither R or R have a plan for anything, and neither R or R have experience in these situations so cooler heads must prevail. I believe that the president will have a plan for restitution for these recent events. Dropping bombs or justifying another war with Iran is not a wise option. We cant continue to do this--think Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan.