as Eastwood said, this craziness has got to stop!! WE the people hired you to do a job and you have FAILED..now WE will replace you!!

That's right. GOPTP were elected in 2010 on a JOBS platform, and they have completely and utterly failed us - they have failed to produce one damn job. It is time to give them the boot.

At 11:53pm last night Talking Points Memo released a statement from the Obama campaign condemning Mitt Romney for criticizing something the White House itself disavowed -- an appalling apology issued by the State Department.

Eight hours later, President Obama finally got around to condemning the monsters who attacked us on our own soil and killed our fellow citizens.

Yesterday, on the 11th anniversary of September 11, the Obama White House snubbed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,accepted an invitation from David Letterman, and apologized to Islamists upset over a film that mocks Islam and Mohammed -- something "artists" in America do to Christianity with my tax dollars on a fairly regular basis.

First off: Why is our Embassy apologizing for a film no one has seen and apologizing for freedom of speech and expression? In a word, that's un-American. And let's remember that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton doubled down on the apology. Last night, though, the White House finally disavowed the apology, but now the hypocritical and wildly dishonest Obama campaign is lashing out at Mitt Romney for being critical of the same apology the White House itself disavowed.

Here's the Romney statement:

I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.

So I guess it's okay for President Obama to criticize that disgraceful apology but not Romney. And now the left is claiming the apology in question from the U.S. Embassy in Cairo was made before the compound was attacked. But it's just a fact that the on Twitter and elsewhere, even after the attack, that the Embassy defended and stood by the apology.

And let me reiterate that after the attack, Hillary doubled down on it.

Via TPM: Here's the hysterical and dishonest response from the Obama campaign:

“We are shocked that, at a time when the United States of America is confronting the tragic death of one of our diplomatic officers in Libya, Governor Romney would choose to launch a political attack,” Obama’s campaign press secretary Ben LaBolt said in a statement.

Not only is the Obama campaign's "shock" completely manufactured -- damn that Romney for criticizing the same apology Obama just disavowed! -- but the Obama campaign is dishonestly trying to make it sound as though Romney was exploiting a tragic death. Moreover, I'm unaware of any condemnation of the Islamists who attack and killed our embassy personnel made before the campaign condemned Mitt Romney.

So who's really playing politics here?

If only the Obama campaign could find half the outrage they saved for Romney to level at the murderers.

Well, you know, priorities.

Follow John Nolte on Twitter @NolteNC

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/12/Obama-Camp-Condemns-Romney-Before-Terrorists

Why Myth's Money Advantage is No Game-Changer

Romney probably won't win on turnout alone. He trails among likely voters, can't and won't count on the wide gap between likely and registered voters persisting, and demographics don't give Romney an unusual large untapped reservoir of potential new voters, so closing the gap will require him to persuade undecided voters, presumably with a barrage of campaign advertisements.
Even in the plausibly competitive states where Team Romney ran uncontested advertisements, millions of dollars do not appear to have put the states into play. Given that Team Obama maintains a lead after being outspent by a two-to-one margin for two months, there is no reason to assume that a deluge of advertisements will hand Romney the lead in the race's final hours.
http://www.tnr.com/blog/electionate/107100/why-romneys-money-advantage-no-game-changer
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Hummm, gazillionaires ads are for them struggling to afford their yachts, Hummers, private islands, as opposed to people struggling to pay their bills. So they need more tax breaks???? What a crock!

Soon the gazillionaires putting their money on the wrong party to try to buy the election and this country will learn money can't buy everything.

4 more 4 44 ☑

Obama/Biden 2012 ☑

We elected the TEA party to stop 0bama from turning the US into a socialist dictatorship.

They succeeded

Statement by the President on the Attack in
Benghazi

"I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in
Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris
Stevens. Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in
our thoughts and prayers. They exemplified America's commitment to freedom,
justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in
stark contrast to those who callously took their lives.

I have directed my Administration to provide all necessary resources to
support the security of our personnel in Libya, and to increase security at our
diplomatic posts around the globe. While the United States rejects efforts to
denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the
kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants.

On a personal note, Chris was a courageous and exemplary representative of
the United States. Throughout the Libyan revolution, he selflessly served our
country and the Libyan people at our mission in Benghazi. As Ambassador in
Tripoli, he has supported Libya's transition to democracy. His legacy will
endure wherever human beings reach for liberty and justice. I am profoundly
grateful for his service to my Administration, and deeply saddened by this
loss.

The brave Americans we lost represent the extraordinary service and
sacrifices that our civilians make every day around the globe. As we stand
united with their families, let us now redouble our own efforts to carry their
work forward."

Citizen #3020456,

We have a government for the people, BY THE PEOPLE.

NOT a government for the Corporations, by the Corporations.

FR: Add spending tops $581 million

Fiscal 2012 federal deficit tops $1 trillion. Maybe FR can break that down at some point.

Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/10/govt-officially-tops-1-trillion-deficits/

Bh: We have a government for the people, BY THE PEOPLE.

We should, they are the ones paying for it. Well, at least the people that are paying taxes.

elliot-3020456

Not only is the Obama campaign's "shock" completely manufactured -- damn that Romney for criticizing the same apology Obama just disavowed! -- but the Obama campaign is dishonestly trying to make it sound as though Romney was exploiting a tragic death. Moreover, I'm unaware of any condemnation of the Islamists who attack and killed our embassy personnel made before the campaign condemned Mitt Romney.

elliot

We can do without your Stalking Points. The place for that is over @ FOX NOISE. That is WHERE morons get their FOX EFFECT.

According to the White House calendar, there is no public record of President Barack Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing--known as the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB)--in the week leading up to the attacks on the U.S. embassy in Cairo and the murder of U.S. Libyan Ambassador Chris Stevens and three American members of his staff:

9/6/2012- http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-06

9/7/2012- http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-07

9/8/2012- http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-08

9/9/2012- http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-09

9/10/2012- http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-10

9/11/2012- http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-11

The last time prior to the slayings that the White House calendar publicly confirms Mr. Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing was September 5^th. (The White House did not provide an official public calendar for the weekend of September 8-10.) Mr. Obama and Vice President Joe Biden met with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta at 5:00 p.m. yesterday.

According to a recent study by the Government Accountability Institute, Mr. Obama has only attended 43.8 percent of his Presidential Daily Briefs in the first 1,225 days of his Administration.

The White House responded by claiming that President Obama reads daily intelligence reports, even if he does not attend the briefings personally.

Apology? Not unless the Obama administration has mind-reading powers.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/09/12/834861/following-murder-of-american-diplomats-romney-stands-by-misleading-attack-on-obama/

But the timeline of events undermines Romney's claim that Obama "apologized" for the nation.

The Egyptian embassy issued its statement on Tuesday morning at 6:11 AM, before protesters broke out. Once they did, and another group of demonstrators attacked the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, the Obama administration distanced itself from the early statement. "The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind," Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in a statement.

"While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants," Obama clarified in a statement on Wednesday morning.

Interestingly, former President George W. Bush struck a similar tone in 2006, after cartoons surfaced poking fun at the Prophet Muhammed and sparked protests in Europe. "Anti-Muslim imagesare as unacceptable as anti-Semitic images, as anti-Christian images, or any other religious belief," Bush administration State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said.

(emphasis added)

Great post Border Joe, Fortunately I think many more Americans realize we need better leadership in the White House to move this country Forward. ROMNEY/RYAN 2012

We can do without your Stalking Points. The place for that is over @ FOX NOISE. That is morons get their FOX EFFECT.

translation, join us or die

Fiscal 2012 federal deficit tops $1 trillion. Maybe FR can break that down at some point.

Hey JoAnnaSmith1: your boy Romney will add $600 billion more to that by 2015.

The President has an Intelligence briefing every morning.

The President has an Intelligence briefing every morning.

The President has an Intelligence briefing every morning.

The President has an Intelligence briefing every morning.

The President has an Intelligence briefing every morning.

..................................................

The lie contrary to this fact is beyond, BEYOND Faux Scam. Think!

But keep pushing, as Democrats will rightly ask why the Bush Administration ignored all the advance warnings they received that are on record - about the 9/11 attack.

As usual, President Obama, and now, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, appear to be the only adults in the room.

Every news website I have visited today is reporting that the Romney campaign issued a misinformed statement before the situation in Libya was clear.

(Except FOX News, which is not so much a news website as it is the propaganda arm of the Republican Party.)

border joe - when you have to post something that is all lies it says everything about you and the candidate you support - you've got NOTHING. When all you can do is lie - you've got NOTHING! When you back someone who says absolutely anything to get elected and means none of it - you've got NOTHING.

In other words border joe - YOU'VE GOT NOTHING! And, Romney - he IS nothing!

Obama/Biden 2012

Hey JoAnnaSmith1: your boy Romney will add $600 billion more to that by 2015.

proof? Did you get this info from the Ministry of Oceania outlet known as NBCNews?

Careful Joe, Seeking will label you as an 'unperson'

My thoughts and prayers are with the families of those whose lives were taken in the Embassy attack.

@ Backhouse --

It's one thing to not attend a briefing because you are doing something else.

It's another thing altogether to ignore the warnings you get when you DO attend, as Bush did on August 6, 2001.

As I recall it, he then -- in that very Presidential way he had with words -- summarily dismissed the briefer, saying, "Okay, you've covered your A$$."

Too bad Bush felt no further obligation to cover America's back.

If he didn't take heed from that, then no number of Presidential Daily Briefings could have made him competent.

why the Bush Administration ignored all the advance warnings they received that are on record - about the 9/11 attack

....and the GOP/TP today will NOT acknowledge those advance warnings, in the daily briefings, that came as early as May of 2001.

Those war mongers were intent on invading Iraq...no matter what!

I was curious always at the speed at which Dubyas' Administration identified that murderous lot.........How'd they do that?

border joe

yep, our prez is doing a great job...NO economy or jobs, NO foreign respect, NO concern for Americans being murdered by muslum-terrorist or by street thugs, NO security on the US border....Increases taxes on the middle class and kills Medicare--700 billion removed, cuts the pay to our TROOPS..

border joe,

Obama's Stimulus Package was not an failure.

Think Again!! Despite the stimulus not being large enough it worked.

For starters, there is voluminous evidence that the stimulus did provide real stimulus, helping to stop a terrifying free-fall, avert a second Depression, and end a brutal recession. America's top economic forecasters -- Macroeconomic Advisers, Moody's Economy.com, IHS Global Insight, JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, and the Congressional Budget Office -- agree that it increased GDP at least 2 percentage points, the difference between contraction and growth, and saved or created about 2.5 million jobs.

The economy shrank at a Depression-level rate in the fourth quarter of 2008, and job losses peaked in January 2009. After the stimulus bill passed in February, however, output had its second-biggest quarterly improvement in 25 years, and employment had its biggest quarterly improvement in 30 years. The recession officially ended that June. A Washington Post review of Recovery Act studies found six that showed a positive economic effect versus one useful study (by prominent Republican economist John B. Taylor) that concluded the stimulus failed -- and critics noted that Taylor's data just as easily support the conclusion that the stimulus was too small.

Here's your option:

Crazy Beck Ship

http://farm4.static.flickr.co/3524/4071878975_fa0c29e2d1_o.jpg

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Bon Voyage

4more years 4 44 ☑

Obama/Biden 2012 ☑

elliot-3020456

We elected the TEA party to stop 0bama from turning the US into a socialist dictatorship.

They succeeded

the only thing they succeeded in beside a total sabotage of the Middle Class is spending taxpayers' money for personal gain:

GOP freshmen (80 out of 87) sent more than 25.6 million pieces of unsolicited mail last year at a cost of nearly $9.8 million.

Of the 10 lawmakers who spent the most taxpayer money on franked mail, eight were GOP freshmen. Of the 25 who spent the most, 18 were GOP freshmen. Republicans Joe Heck of Nevada ($319,251), Bobby Schilling of Illinois ($293,021) and Scott DesJarlais of Tennessee ($282,385) topped the list.

So once again, the TP/GOP proved to us how fiscally IRresponsible they really are. It's all about do as I say, not as I do.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-05-15/house-republican-freshmen-mailings/54976668/1

Obama 2012/Romney 1040

It's one thing to not attend a briefing because you are doing something else.

yes golfing is more important. FR = Orwells 1984. Look at backhouse, Seeking, Amy, chilled, AM and a whole host of others in here.

Amy, I wonder if Fox WILL call Willard out on this. Even they are getting increasingly disgusted with the R&R campaign.

Anna Molly, thanks for the link to the timeline!

JoAnnaSmith1

We should, they are the ones paying for it. Well, at least the people that are paying taxes

yes, the famous 50% that don't pay taxes, those damn: retirees, single moms, single dads, high school students, college students, disabled, unemployed and underemployed and possibly Romney and others like Romney.

chilled --

I was curious always at the speed at which Dubyas' Administration identified that murderous lot.........How'd they do that?

I don't think they needed PDBs to do that. I never saw any, and I knew it was Al Qaeda well before lunch.

Republicans used to like to say that Clinton ignored the warning signs leading up to the Cole attack in October of the previous year.

Well, maybe he did, but then they ignored the lessons it taught, as well.

Not everybody ignored it, though. After all, it was in all the papers.

"Condolences to the 4 families of the Americans killed in Libya."

Is the ONLY statement the heartless POS Romney

should have issued.

It's one thing to not attend a briefing because you are doing something else.

It's another thing altogether to ignore the warnings you get when you DO attend, as Bush did on August 6, 2001.

So if Bush didn't attend his briefings, you'd be okay with him.

It's amazing the lengths the Libs go through to excuse Obama's failings. Seems like hard work.

I don't think they needed PDBs to do that. I never saw any, and I knew it was Al Qaeda well before lunch.

You are just so smart. Who do you have today in the 3rd race at Pimlico?

THIS JUST IN FROM NBC

Treaty signed with Eurasia!

We are now at WAR with EASTASIA

RedDevPOS -

That's right. GOPTP were elected in 2010 on a JOBS platform, and they have completely and utterly failed us - they have failed to produce one damn job. It is time to give them the boot.

But I thought there have been 4.5 million jobs created over the last several months? Guess I missed something.

And that still leaves us SHORT 4.3 million from the highest rate in January of 2008.

| We should, they are the ones paying for it. Well, at least the people that are paying taxes

yes, the famous 50% that don't pay taxes, those damn: retirees, single moms, single dads, high school students, college students, disabled, unemployed and underemployed and possibly Romney and others like Romney.

Was thinking GM and GE (zero taxes), but okay, we'll go with your list too. Corporations are people too you know.

Was thinking GM and GE (zero taxes), but okay, we'll go with your list too. Corporations are people too you know.

only in liberal dystopia

Well, maybe he did, but then they ignored the lessons it taught, as well.

The GOP/TP refuse to admit/learn anything.......Their mantra has always been and will be to blame 'the other guy', never accepting responsibiity for what they do or fail to do!...It's the GOP way!

The Dubya Administration knew there was an AlQaeda cell here, determined to strike, they ignored it in order to justify their invasion of Iraq.

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11......15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia!

The Dubya Administration knew there was an AlQaeda cell here, determined to strike, they ignored it in order to justify their invasion of Iraq.

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11......15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia!

did you get your info from Minitrue too? So if G-Dub was aware where was Clinton again? Keep working at spinning the webs of deceit there libbies. Obama is incapable of leadership judging by how he is not responsible for anything (a good leader gets the good and bad) yet you want to GIVE him 4?

Im thinking half if not most (Amy and seeking, Mario Batali to name a few die hards) would love to see him crowned Rex Perpetuus.

The GOP/TP refuse to admit/learn anything.......Their mantra has always been and will be to blame 'the other guy', never accepting responsibiity for what they do or fail to do!...It's the GOP way

Funny. More like the Obama way.

Here are some quotes from those war monger Dems regarding Iraq:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

Ummm chilled, am I missing something here? We didn't invade Iraq until 2003. Please 'splain Lucy.

Here are some quotes from those war monger Dems regarding Iraq:

Here's a fun quote from our (rather intelligent) JoAnnaSmith1 on the US budget going through Congressional committees:

"That's a lie."

Good job Xabie but i think it would be more fun to post some more of your idiotic moments. The real question is where to begin.

Gee HandSOB - you make it too easy. Those jobs were created in spite of the obstruction by the GOPTP. Further proof it is time to kick every single GOPTP political candidate out of office.

Further proof it is time to kick every single GOPTP political candidate out of office.

not a bad idea really as long as we remove some those far left SRP democrats as well. We can start with the Presidency and 'trickle down'

You say that Romney will add 600 billion to the debt by 2015 as if its a bad thing.

At our current rate 0bama will add 2.5 trillion to the debt by 2015.

You really are that stupid aren't you.

RedDevPS - Jobs are jobs. You said (and I quote from above):

"they have failed to produce one damn job.

I personally don't know who to "credit" for those jobs but I guess you know it wasn't the House at all. You're entitled to your thoughts and opinions however, I think it was said on an earlier thread that opinions don't constitute facts.

Besides, without direct involvement and spending, the government, I don't care which branch you choose, can only create the environment and certainty in the American people and nation as a whole to promote jobs.

Gee HandSOB - where did I once say the House created any jobs. What I said was jobs were created in spite of obstructionist actions by the GOPTP. It goes to show you can't converse with a hand - even sign language requires a brain to formulate and communicate coherent thoughts and ideas.

JoAnnaSmith1

Was thinking GM and GE (zero taxes), but okay, we'll go with your list too. Corporations are people too you know.

make that 66% of corporations that don't pay taxes but according to your boy, Romney, corporations PAY TOO MUCH.

And I wasn't aware that corporations think, dream, eat, sleep, crap or give birth. I thought that was exclusive to human beings.

Talk to the Hand

And that still leaves us SHORT 4.3 million from the highest rate in January of 2008.

hahaha, you are funny. I guess you forgot about the 2.6 million jobs lost in 2008 and another 2 million jobs lost between Jan-March of 2009. That's 4.6 million jobs lost just in 15 months but keep cherry picking to fit your propaganda.

Talk to the Hand

Ummm chilled, am I missing something here? We didn't invade Iraq until 2003. Please 'splain Lucy.

very simple. Congress needed a reason so Bush had to wait to "cook" one up. It takes time to fudge and fabricate "evidence," you know.

RedDev,

In looking at the iists and all the millions being spent these 1% certainly do not need the bush tax cuts to be extened for them.

they have money to burn....

the money being spent by both campaigns is doing more to stimulate the economy than anything else the president has done since his 2008 campaign spending.

@Northstar - No doubt Murdoch is laughing all the way to the bank as Adelson pours his Chinese money directly into the Murdoch coffers.

billybob-6210632

the money being spent by both campaigns is doing more to stimulate the economy than anything else the president has done since his 2008 campaign spending.

How? Wait, I know. It stimulates the no J-O-B creator gazillionaries to party on their yachts sipping champagne while they laugh at us peasants.

"Cracker Bay"

Mitt Romney's campaign toasted its top donors Wednesday aboard a 150-foot yacht flying the flag of the Cayman Islands.
The exclusive event, hosted by a Florida developer on his yacht “Cracker Bay,” was one of a dozen exclusive events meant to nurture those who have raised more than $1 million for Romney’s bid.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/romney-party-yacht-flies-cayman-islands-flag/story?id=17105028#.UD6K75bN103

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"MYTH" R-money's gazillion donor friends are living it up as America suffers instead of putting that money into J-0-B-S and the economy.

Greedy Bas-turds!!!

I think it "stimulates the economy" as much as "food stamps" (Nancy Pelosi)

bev -- please tell me that you understand that when an ad is run for a candidate on television that many people benefit from those paid to write the ads, to those paid to produce the ads, to those paid to sell the ads, to those that receive payment for all of these things.

did you attend the CPS? that could be the explanation for your ignorance.

Surely, even a talking hand can understand something as simplistic as spending money on food stimulates the economy.

In a way you may be correct however, wouldn't those people also be eating and stimulating the economy before they went on food stamps and worked? Where is the gain? Please, I would like to know your thoughts.

Would it be because with the handout they have more money to buy stuff they don't actually need to survive?

Billionaires supported Bush in 2004 because he was pushing to privatize Social Security, which would have generated a bonanza on Wall Street.

Billionaires supported Obama in 2008 because they didn't trust McCain to understand what needed to be done to save the economy after the financial crisis, which began on Wall Street.

Billionaires support Romney in 2012, to protect their tax breaks and allow them to go back to pillaging on Wall Street.

Maybe we don't need a new President in this country, we need a better class of billionaires, and a new center for finance, instead of New York. I nominate Portland, Maine.

The 1% has all this money to spend on political ads and yet nothing to spend on job creation. Shows me their priorities.

I really hope this election proves that there is a saturation point with negative ads and they become ineffective. I'm not optimistic about that but it would be nice to see an end to them.

steeler -- is your point that everyone contributing to obama is from the 1%?

obama is testing to see where that negative saturation point is if indeed there is one.

The 1% has all this money to spend on political ads and yet nothing to spend on job creation. Shows me their priorities.

steeler thinks only the 1% is republicans. Tell me steeler how is your running diatribe not class warfare?

Karl Rove: Democracy for sale! Democracy for sale! One democracy up for the highest bidder,

He's pretty powerful huh? If he were that powerful you think Obama would be president at all?

You are missing my point---the 1% has sold people on "trickle down" economics---lower their taxes and the excess money in their pockets will be used for job creation. Well---where are the jobs? They have excess money in their pockets to use for lobbying and SuperPACs but not for jobs. And still they want even lower tax rates.

you have a point? sounds like classware rhetoric to me. Tell me when people are spending 38k a plate for obama, those are the poor?

Uncle Lenin wants you!

You are missing my point---the 1% has sold people on "trickle down" economics---lower their taxes and the excess money in their pockets will be used for job creation.

I don't think that's actually true. While results would likely vary with how the question is phrased, a strong majority of Americans, and even a majority of Republicans agree that raising taxes on people making over $250k a year would either help the economy or make no difference.

The plutocrats haven't convinced the public that trickle down economics works, but they do control the money, and so they control the opinion of the Republican party establishment, regardless of what the average American thinks. On the scales of political influence, your opinion just counts a lot more if you are rich, and that's why the current state of campaign finance is such a problem.

Bravo Paul - I too have up my $120 per month cable addiction and was pleasantly surprised to find I have over 28 over the air TV channels. Included in that is BBC, Al Jazeera, and CCTV news. I get all my other news sources a day late via internet pages (MSNBC/CNN etc).

I will never return to those dark days of cable either - paying for TV ads is utterly ludicrous.

I applaud you two, I really do. Unfortunately I am addicted to football and yes, we have all of the packages to see all of the games! :)

Great post, Tom! I really enjoyed your summation. The food storage thing is 100% Mormon. It's required and all based on Revelations but that is a story for another day.

Contact the newsvine people and ask them to let you link. Sometimes they forget.

Layton - I suspected the food storage thing was Mormon related, but it's self-defeating. Everyone else will be in heaven a year before you!

Tom, I'm NOT Mormon!!!! I'm an ex-one - the worst kind and live in Utah. I'm going with you! :)

Layton - my bad. I meant to say "a year before THEM" LOL

Amen

Maybe one seven year Presidential term, instead of two four year terms, so a President could focus on governing for most of his term, and we wouldn't have to go through this quite so often.

Just have dedicated airtime for (or better, no) political ads and have everything ride on the debates.

One six year term for senators and POTUS alike.

For once Amy, I have to say I kind of like that seven years thing. Maybe even just six with no reelection possibilities. Take the job and do it because you want to and have to. Otherwise, we leave the door open for a referendum on the POTUS's performance say at 5 years so see if he/she gets the last two.

And Xabre - I like your idea too. One and done for all. That way we have people who really care and are not looking to make a career out of it.

Isn't his fun just having an exchange without the nastiness and name calling and demeaning stuff. Thanks guys.

And Xabre - I like your idea too. One and done for all. That way we have people who really care and are not looking to make a career out of it.

If we do this 6 year thing then HOR should be two 3 year terms. 2 year terms are so small that by the time you get settled (if you do) you are running for reelection. It's pointless.

danger -- public financing was the norm for the presidential election beginning in 1976 until one of the 2008 candidates changed his mind and went for private donations instead.

amazing how one little lie (the candidate had agreed to public financing) has taken us to a place where more than a billion dollars will be spent trying to get elected president.