Great job Romney, their bodies are still warm and you're already attempting to use their deaths for political gain. You disgust me.

not on the absolute failure of Obama's foreign policy.

Ah yes, it has been an absolute failure. That's why foreign countries (especially Europe) have a higher opinion of the USA than they have in quite awhile. Maybe you should go back to things to know, like Congressional committees and the US Budget...

Not sure who's post is stupider Joe or TexasT. At least Texas didn't need 500 words to articulate his drivel.

Ron - Perfect description of Romney's dilemma, and reinforces the man has no bottom line or starting point when it comes to providing direction and leadership when it comes to government. At least the man had a starting point when he led Bain, which was make a profit. From their, nothing else mattered, and he doggedly pursued that goal. That does not mean he should be the leader of this country. That requires a set of principles from which one leads, principles he clearly doesn't have, as pointed out by your post.

By the way Romney, tell us again your response to the uprisings in Libya and Egypt .. were you aching to go nuclear on them without even researching the facts? Something tells me if you were in charge, those two countries would be a nuclear fallout wasteland this morning.

but in the Liberal bastion of Chicago

Hey if we want to play the stereotype game, I could link (again) the map showing high school graduation rates by county. In which states do you suspect they are lower?

Or perhaps yours. "Stupider". Really?

Ironic from someone who posts the very definition of "separation of Church and State" from the US Constitution and then asks others where it is.

Obama 2012 - "I've got my own priorities"

JoAnnaSmith1 reminds me of terribly programmed software. It sounds like it is so over the place that it is burning out the CPU. But I guess that's what happens when you have terrible "developers".

Xabre --

I could link (again) the map showing high school graduation rates by county. In which states do you suspect they are lower?

Same with teen pregnancy rates, for all that the red states teach "abstinence only."

http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/11/24/explaining-variation-in-teen-pregnancy-rates-by-state-race-and-sex-education/

But they always know better than the rest of us, don't they?

So with attacks going against US embassies in the Middle-East, Obama is booked on Letterman, but he has no time for Israels Prime Minster Netanyahu.

Source:

Obama 2012 - "I've got my own priorities"

Sorry, Smiffy, but I'm not paying to read your link.

The importance of free speech in this great country cannot be over-emphasized. As such, no President can be responsible when a nut-job pastor promotes a home video that mocks Mohammed.

Most of us realize that Mohammed is an extremely symbolic person to a large portion of the world's population and hope that they would respect our love for Jesus or any other religious belief in return.

Unfortunately, the narrow-minded fruitcakes who produced and promoted this video are instrumental in the deaths of four brave Americans.

Would Jesus have wanted to mock another's beliefs?

It's not over the top to criticize a foreign policy

It sure as hell can be dangerous. Romney's lack of credentials is showing again.

Belfast Lad - I get your point. My issue is our President appoligizing to muslims for our free speech. and blaming it on the nut-job pastor. Not condeming THIER actions!

Is there any more reason to doubt that Romney is a low-life who'll tell any lie and exploit any tragedy in his desperate attempt to get himself into the White House?

As for the Israeli who made the inflammatory film and the Libyans who attacked the consulate and killed our diplomats, they're all morons.

Romney is despicable. When you put your own needs for aggrandizement over the foreign policy concerns of the nation and the world, you prove one thing and one thing only:

Romney is not suited by temperament and knowledge of world events to be POTUS. He ought to be ashamed of himself. But he is too damn stupid to know that.

Those of you voting for Romney do not love your country. You just hate this black, Democratic President to the point of being irrational.

He and Queen Ann ought to go home now, whichever home gets them furthest away from the world stage.

"how much time do you give an administration to work through a diplomatic and international crisis before trying to score immediate political points? You’d expect the Sarah Palins and Joanna Smith's and No Jo No Bo's of the world to quickly pounce on something like this, and she predictably did."

JAS1 said -"Arab Spring Has Sprung A Leak"

No Jo the White House statement did not apologize they condemened the attacks as did Clinton. As the article said the Cairo message was addressing something else. I didn't expect this from you.

Four people are dead and Romney and apparently his "followers" are leaping at the chance to score cheap political points. Only a person lower than filth and pond scum would try to use this to get some sort of political bounce. JAS1, TexasT have you no shame?

Four people are dead, don't know if they were D, R or I but they were Americans. I am saddened that their service to the country cost them their lives; equally saddened that partisan hacks would look to this tragedy without compassion only seeing a political opening. Let me ask you this when those people were fighting to survive, during the throes of death do you think they were thinking about politics? I would bet they were thinking about their families having their lives flash before them. My thoughts and prayers to the families.

Anyone who would use this as a source of an attack has no morals, no compassion, no shame. People who would point to this and say it is Obama's fault and try to use this are disgusting. The offical statement condemned the attacks.

That being said, strengthen the defenses, give the marine guards more reinforcements in our embassies, give them full authorization to use deadly force at their discretion (rules of engagement) etc.

Pitiful graduation rates. 4th graders that can't read, 8th graders that can't handle basic math, shortest school days, along with the best paid teachers in America, and they want more. Welcome to Chicago!!

http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2007/dropout05/images/figure_04.gif

I'm sorry, what states have higher graduation rates again?

no joe whatever,

go back to fox news if you want to talk about Netanyahu - I assume that is where you are reading your articles since it's all over their site. Interestingly enough, there is NOTHING on fox news front page news about Romneys response to the Obamas admin on his comments. Because even they know it was inappropriate.

no joe, no bo, nj

No wonder he refuses to meet with Netanyahu- it might offend the religious sensibilities of those sworn to kill us.

Yeah, doggone right.

I say, send Condoleezza Rice. As a Russian expert, she knew so much about the Middle East, after all, and she had so much success with our allies in 2008 when she went begging for help in Afghanistan.

Most of all, who can forget her brilliant decision to encourage Benazir Bhutto to return to Pakistan just as rebel forces were rising and there were huge riots in the streets? That shut it down, didn't it?

How you dare, with a straight face, to criticize President Obama's foreign policy chops is beyond me.

Maybe I should send George W. Bush right over to rub your shoulders. At least HE was able to look into Putin's eyes and not be fooled.

Or maybe we need to invade Granada again. Just to show how tough we are.

Seriously.

Netanyahu needs to STFU! If Israel wants to go to war with Iran, They need to grow a set and do it on their own!

As for the makers of the film, If you are directly responsible for the death of anyone, YOU should be held accountable!

Freedom of speech does not include inciting violence!

My condolences to the families of those slain.

Romney has accused Obama of starting a “War on Coal”, but it is the oil & gas industry that stands to benefit most from the Clean Air Act. Oil & gas giants have donated nearly $2,285,000.00 to Romney’s campaign; Exxon, the Koch Brothers, Oxbow Corp, Chesapeake Energy and Chevron plus the nearly $300,000.00 Paul Ryan has garnered from them ^[1] . Follow the money. The oil & gas companies are delighted about restrictions on coal; it benefits them immensely.

The CEO of natural-gas giant Chesapeake Energy, Aubrey McClendon, donated more than $25 million to the Sierra Club for its “Beyond Coal” campaign, which included lawsuits that produced both the mercury and greenhouse-gas rules Romney says are the basis of Obama’s war on coal ^[2]. The coal-fired power plants say, in order to meet emission standards, they may need to convert to natural gas. Who stands to benefit?

The regulation proposes emissions targets of 1,000 pounds of CO2 per megawatt-hour of generation, and coal-fired power plants will need to use carbon capture technology to meet the standards, BUT it applies only to new, non-peaking natural gas & coal-fired power plants that might be built in the future, NOT to existing power plants, existing power plants that undertake upgrades that deem them a “new source” or to peaking gas-fired power generators^[3].

That’s key to understanding this regulation. There are no new coal-fired power plants in the pipeline that this rule might cover & no prospect of any unless natural gas prices hit at least $9.60 per million BTU on a sustained basis. Nearly all the gas-fired power plants that will be built will meet these standards without any additional costs. The regulation will impose negligible costs^[4]. Conservatives should be euphoric about these regulations & environmentalists spitting mad.

The question that you should be asking yourself is, when the gas & oil industry have pushed the coal industry out of business, what then will you be paying for the gas? Who is the real enemy of coal? Who would profit if the coal companies lose?

The coal industry has shown employment growth over 9% in Pennsylvania since Obama took office. In 2008, there were an average of 7,829 employees working in the coal industry in Pennsylvania according to a fact check by the Mine Safety and Health Administration. In the first half of 2012, there was an average of 8,567 employees and in Ohio coal jobs have increased 10% under Mr. Obama and there is strong evidence that the coal-burning power plants being closed would have been shut down soon without the EPA regulations because of their age. Ed Good, a Steubenville utility worker at Sammis Coal Plant in Stratton says Republicans are misrepresenting Obama's position on coal. "We see these signs all the time without disclaimers, we see this perception that there's a war on coal, it's simply not true," he said. "There are more mining jobs right now than there has been in the last 14 years."^[5].

Romney's record suggests he favors regulation. In 2005, Romney lauded the state's establishment of carbon emission limits that he said, "will provide real and immediate progress in the battle to improve our environment." He hired environmental activist Douglas Foy to head four Massachusetts agencies; Transportation, Commonwealth Development, Housing and Environment & Energy. Foy served as negotiator on a regional climate-change initiative and helped draft regulations to put emissions caps in place for coal-fired power plants. Foy stood at Romney’s side outside a coal-fired plant while Romney explained, "I will not create jobs or hold jobs that kill people, and that plant, that plant kills people."^[6]. Romney also backed a regional cap-and-trade system. In Dec. 7, 2005 press release, Romney announced, "These carbon emission limits will provide real and immediate progress in the battle to improve our environment," and touted Massachusetts as "the first and only state to set CO2 emissions limits on power plants."^[7].

Romney talks of the need to keep energy jobs in America, but he opposes vehicle fuel efficiency standards that have resurrected the American auto industry and put thousands of Americans back to work. Romney opposes the wind production tax credit, an industry employing more than 75,000 Americans, while he supports subsidies of billions of dollars to the oil and gas industries. There is no doubt about Mitt Romney's allegiance to fossil fuel interests.^[8].

The bottom line is that Oil & Gas stand to profit from limiting coal production. Romney has already profited, and stands to profit even more, from them. It is Romney who has declared war on coal. Obama is simply trying to keep the coal industry responsible to the people who are impacted by their operations.

Sources

[1] OpenSecrets.org
[2] New York Times 2/13/2012
[3] EPA / epa.gov
[4] Mine Safety and Health Administration
[5] CBS News 7/16/2012 / cbsnews.com
[6] Press Conference – Collins Cove, Mass
[7] Scribd.com
[8] Wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Mitt_Romney /Energy & the Environment

Additional Sources:

PolitiFact√.com
3/30/2012 Romney-Supported TV advertisement; promise to oil industry re: subsidies
The Week 8/29/2012
Fox News archives
MSNBS News archives
CBS News archives
Boston Globe
Washington Post
Tampa Bay Times
Cleveland Plain Dealer
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
The Hill

nojonbo

Sorry, First Read, but I agree with Romney. That statement is a disgraceful,, cowardly pander to the lowest elements of human society.

Of course you would, even though Romney was full of crap and so are you. As FR pointed out the statement released by the US embassy in Egypt was made BEFORE the Muslim idiots who attacked the consulate and killed our diplomats.

When Romney did move to the left, like he did on supporting some components of Obamacare, he received pressure from the right and immediately reversed himself. Just another flip-flop!

Ron:

Repeal and replace. It's not a flip-flop, it's smart politics to advocate the continuation of the only aspects of the POS ACA the the electorate seems to like. BTW, 3.4 trillion dollars is a high price to pay for the pre-existing conditions mandate and having the ability to remain on you're parent's policies until you're 26. Couple this price tag with rising premiums, higher copays and deductibles and maybe you'll understand why the majority of the population doesn't like Obamacare.

Your telling us.

Another brilliant sentence from JoAnnaSmith1. Showing real intelligence.

Ron:

Repeal and replace.

Yes, replace. That's why all thirty-some of the House's votes to repeal also included a replacement. Oh wait...

For all you foreign policy nay-sayers who criticize President Obama's handling of the Middle East, I don't need to remind you how he got us out of Iraq and is working to get out of Afghanistan and how he made the tough call that got Osama bin Laden or how he engineered the routing of Moamar Khaddafi without spilling a single drop of American blood.

I don't need to remind you how he has worked tirelessly to bring Al Qaeda to its knees, such that one of its dead leader's brothers is now proposing a peace plan.

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-09-10/middleeast/world_meast_zawahiri-peace-plan_1_zawahiri-islamists-al-qaeda-leader

No. I only need two little words to remind you.

Beirut. 1982.

TexasT-2966501

I don't need to cut and paste to make a point or spew propoganda.

At least he admits to spewing propaganda...

I see the Albanian Idiot is positively giddy this morning rambling on and on about transparency. The welfare queen's giddiness must be glee at the Mideast uprisings which he hopes will translate to an increase in his monthly big oil welfare dividends courtesy of government subsidies combined with tensions in the Mideast. It mirrors the same elation he feels as farmers founder due to crop failures caused by drought and the government steps in with subsidies to prop up his 'investments'.

But I digress - and back to transparency. The resident welfare queen sure finds it HILLY-BILLY-ARIOUS over some trivial issue as to whether a famous Hollywood actor did or didn't visit the president. Buck-o, let's talk transparency. Get Romney to release those opaque Romney tax returns. Are those so hard to produce, or is Romney like the Albanian welfare queen, reliant upon government subsidies to fluff up the financial portfolios?

Please don't edit my posts.

Nice job editing it. Thankfully I still have the post in my browser cache. Would you like a screenshot? Of course, you'll undoubtedly claim it's edited.

geo --

Bev - After reading your posts, how long were Chicago teachers on strike when you went to school?

Seriously. An ignorant, insolent, disrespectful clown like you wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes in my classroom.

NJNB -- You wrote:

No wonder he refuses to meet with Netanyahu-

Read up.

Washington (CNN) -- President Barack Obama talked with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in a call Tuesday night about the threat posed by Iran's nuclear program, according to a White House statement.

Obama placed the call to Netanyahu, a senior administration official told CNN.

The one-paragraph statement from the White House, which referred to the Obama-Netanyahu discussion as "a part of their ongoing consultations," followed reports earlier in the day that the White House had rejected a request by Netanyahu to meet with Obama this month to discuss Iran's nuclear program.

CNN's Wolf Blitzer, citing Israeli sources, reported that the Israelis were told Obama's schedule would not permit a meeting even though Israel offered to have Netanyahu travel to Washington.

Obama and Netanyahu are both due to address the United Nations in New York in late September but not at the same time.

The Obama administration pushed back later Tuesday.

"Contrary to reports in the press, there was never a request for Prime Minister Netanyahu to meet with President Obama in Washington, nor was a request for a meeting ever denied," the White House said Tuesday night in its statement, which made reference to "our close cooperation on Iran and other security issues."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/11/politics/obama-netanyahu-iran/index.html

Romney is an amateur when it comes to office holding. His premature statement on Libya is outrageous and wrong. I don't member anything like this coming from him after 9/11 or from other republicans. Now we even know that bush was warned about 9/11 attacks and ignored them. Where was your outrageous comments then?

Not only is Romney's tax plan terrible for the middle class and the poor, it is an extreamley good deal for the 1%. The International Business Times had an article yesterday that talked about how much Sheldon Adelson would benefit from Romney's tax plan should he get elected. The article sites a study by The Center for American Progress (yes it is left leaning) They used only public info for their study so the savings (or return on investments for his political contributions) Adelson gets could very well be bigger then what they estimate. The estimate is that under the Romney plan Adelson would see over $2 billion in tax savings and his airs would get over $8 billion in tax savings when Adelson passes. Again, this is using info that we know of... That is not the guy I want chaging the tax code when we cant even see ROMNEY'S TAX RETURNS!!

I wonder why there's nothing on the NBC web site about the explosive New York Times article that exposes more damning evidence that Bush ignored dire warnings from the CIA as early as four months before the 9/11 attacks. Bush blamed the CIA for his own incompetence. Talk about playing the "blame game," Bush was a champion at it.

Yesterday we saw Mitt insert politics in his 9/11 speech and now this............what a shame. Another sign this man's campaign is drowning and desperately in need of a life line.

Anna Molly

geo --

Bev - After reading your posts, how long were Chicago teachers on strike when you went to school?

Seriously. An ignorant clown like you wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes in my classroom.

Yeah, AM the legal beagle pedagogue. What lectures did you give again Dewey Cheatem, tax evasion 101?

JS1 believe Xabie? The same guy that told me nouns in German aren't capitalized unless they are proper LOL. The same guy that argued come meirda was comemeirda? Yeah Xabie is full of crap 5 out of 4 times. If he's gonna lie about stuff like the above posted, which was insignificant god only knows what else he'll lie about.

JoAnna --

I can't see what you're saying, JoAnna, but to the extent you may be insulting me, I can say that you wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes in my classroom, either.

I never bothered to suffer fools. There were always too many children who actually wanted to learn. Emphasis on too many.

No time for sullen narcissists with God complexes.

Xabre - I'm sorry, what states have higher graduation rates again?

Really? A 2007 study showing a 2003-2004 graduation percent by state map? I guess you had to work quick though and took the first Google result you could find.

No time for sullen narcissists with God complexes.

so you experience self loathing? I notice its a Liberal genetic defect. Next you'll say you have no time for hypocrites LOL @ U

billybob --

am -- did you show as much respect to your students as you just showed to geo?

sounds like you may be a corporal punishment advocate

Just goes to show where your foolish head is at. I didn't need those sorts of tricks. Classroom control was not my problem. And I taught some pretty rough kids under some pretty tough conditions.

One day I made a joking remark to my class about my being short. One of the students shyly raised his hand and said, "but we don't think of you as short."

By far, the majority of teachers know what they are doing, but more and more they are facing challenges like the Chicago teachers. It's the principal reason I got out and went to law school, instead.

Those who, like you, know nothing at all about it should stay out of it and leave it to the people who care enough to do it every single day for lousy pay and no respect. THEY are the ones who love children.

People like you just love money.

ROMNEY SPEAKING NOW

At no point does he condemn Terry Jones or Bacile... he actually seems to applaud their horrible abuse of our Free Speech.

Our Country was founded on promting RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE... but Romney doesn't get it.

Jones & Bacile caused DEATHS and HARM...and Romney is exploiting HIS Candidacy....

He is making a CAMPAIGN speech...and defending is knee jerk reaction as a war monger.

This guy is unbelievable...

I'm sickened by this guy's stupidity on foreign policy and his stupid remarks.

Did Romney's buddy Adelson fund this Inflammatory Movie?

i

Caesar Augustus --

Next you'll say you have no time for hypocrites LOL @ U

Nonsense. I always make time for you, Caesar.

Really? A 2007 study showing a 2003-2004 graduation percent by state map? I guess you had to work quick though and took the first Google result you could find.

Yes, because I'm sure it's so drastically different now.

YDMD: Anyone who would use this as a source of an attack has no morals, no compassion, no shame.

Another moderator. Guess you weren't around here when the Gabby Gifford assassination attempt was made and innocents were killed. The Tea Party was (wrongly) blamed extensively by the Left on these very pages for that issue. You might have been critical of them, I don't recall. You tell us.

It's understood the Left needs to insulate Obama from the problems he is accountable for, it is election time. The truth is that many have been critical of Obama's foreign policy and have said that it is destabilizing to the region. We are seeing the results of that destabilization.

NJNB -- You are entitled to your ignorant opinion and spin but the facts speak louder.

"The President arrives in New York for the UN on Monday, September 24th and departs on Tuesday, September 25th. The Prime Minister doesn't arrive in New York until later in the week. They're simply not in the city at the same time. But the President and PM are in frequent contact and the PM will meet with other senior officials, including Secretary Clinton, during his visit," National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said in a written statement.....

UPDATE: President Obama and Netanyahu spoke for an hour on the phone Tuesday evening.

"The two leaders discussed the threat posed by Iran's nuclear program, and our close cooperation on Iran and other security issues. President Obama and Prime Minister Netanyahu reaffirmed that they are united in their determination to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, and agreed to continue their close consultations going forward," according to the White House.

The Obama administration also denied reports that Netanyahu offered to come to Washington to meet with the president. "Contrary to reports in the press, there was never a request for Prime Minister Netanyahu to meet with President Obama in Washington, nor was a request for a meeting ever denied," the White House said in a written statement.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/obama-will-not-meet-with-israels-netanyahu-this-month/

no joe, no bo, nj

Uh, no, Houston, but that statement came out as a RESULT of the attack on our Embassy. That First Read desperately tries to spin this as something less than a Carteresque failure is as unsurprising as your buying it, hook, line, and sinker.

Uh, no nojonobo. What I buy is that a response follows the event to which the response is made in time. The statement by the US embassy in Egypt PRECEDED the attacks in Libya so it couldn't possibly have been "in response" to the attacks as Mitt Romney claimed so stupidly. But of course, you're too far gone in your Obama Derangement Syndrome to think rationally.

You and Mitt may be praying for some tragedy like the one that killed US troops in Carter's failed raid to free US diplomats in Iran that you can blame on Obama. But nobody is going to blame Obama for this tragedy, except those in the terminal stages of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

Mitt Romney is Vapid. Yeah! that's a word, it means Empty of substance!

Mitt Romney is also a known Liar, admitted Tax-Cheat. and a probable Felon!

I'm Not preaching to the Choir here. If you Uneducated poor White Trailer Trash Republican Teabaggers want to Lose your lower Middle class standing and have your Kids go off to fight in Foreign Wars that support the 1% of the Republicans that the GOP Party really represents, then by all means vote for the Mormon. Your kind is too Dumb to get it.

Plus the "little-turd" Karl Rove and the Koch Brothers are Buying the Election and using Mitt Romney as their Stooge, their Dope. It's True.

So if you really want to enhance your white Trailer Trash Teabagging Life to a Higher Level, then Vote a straight Democratic ticket come this November 2012,

Let's send Mitt Romney, Karl Rove, the Koch brothers, and all the Republicans "Back to the Dung Heap of History" where they all belong.

It's the Right thing to do.

Anna Molly

Caesar Augustus --

Next you'll say you have no time for hypocrites LOL @ U

Nonsense. I always make time for you, Caesar.

lost in translation once again Dewey Cheatem, IRONY LOL @ U . hitting the scotch a little early this am AM?

Xabre

Really? A 2007 study showing a 2003-2004 graduation percent by state map? I guess you had to work quick though and took the first Google result you could find.

Yes, because I'm sure it's so drastically different now.

so assumptions can be passed off as Fact huh? Or is it because you say it so number 1 and ergo it is? talk about God Complex

YDMD: Anyone who would use this as a source of an attack has no morals, no compassion, no shame.

what about the Auroa shooting? Wasnt the false accusation of a person bearing the same name as the real shooter a tea party member? Brian williams? Liberal Media = Pravada

Each with their own outrage, fortified by "journalism" tailored to their preconceived notions and biases...

Each again crowing that this "proves" what they (their side?) have been saying all along.

More concerned with promoting their team's spin than the truth, they repeat whatever "Rachel" or "Greta", who "nail it!" had to say as gospel.

This is a tragedy. Good people died. Good people who know the danger they face serving their country. Good people who are by and large career diplomats, serving not a political ideology but our NATION, just like our troops abroad.

Those on the left and right who choose to use this tragedy, and the murders of our diplomats as a soapbox for their petty partisan politics are to be pitied...

and the murders of our diplomats as a soapbox for their petty partisan politics are to be pitied...

Pitied? No. Pity is for other human beings.

One more time, Houston-the apology from our government was issued as a response to the attack on our Embassy in Egypt.

It was a sniveling, cowardly response to an act of violence. Totally unacceptable. I honestly do not care how you try to spin it. It is what it is- disgusting.

By the way, here is what Obama DOES have time for

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/11/obama_talks_football_rapping_with_dj_known_as_pimp_with_the_limp.html

Gee, how could he possibly make time to meet with Netanyahu- he has to appear with the "Pimp With A Limp".

Not surprised you didn't know- its not like NBC would bother reporting it. Might make Obama look, well, bad.

Romney is a total Moron for inflaming the situation, his diplomatic experience is in his Toilet, this Clown was a loser in 2000 and he's a loser in 2012 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JoAnnaSmith1

The Democrat on Democrat violence continues while the teachers in Chicago remain on strike.

Hey Joanna the teachers in lakeforest Il. are on strike as well, and they make alot more than the lowley chicago teachers.

Teachers in Lake Forest High School District 115 went on strike today after
failing to reach an agreement over salaries during negotiations that ended just
before midnight.

Teachers set up picket lines in front of Lake Forest High School this
morning, carrying yellow signs that read "Lake Forest Teachers for a Fair
Contract."

Some parents were clearly displeased by the picketers.

"You make three
times more than the average citizen in Chicagoland," a woman yelled. "What is
the lesson for all the students today?"

A man joined the picket line but
carried a sign telling the teachers to get back to work.

Unlike chicago this is rich against rich!!!!

In an effort to prevent the gatheirng outside of the US Embassy from becoming violent, the US EMBASSY issued the statement:

The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others

I see no "apologies", only condemnation of a movie mocking other's deeply-held religous beliefs, issued in an effort to PREVENT violence - not in response to violence. EVERYONE in the Obama administration has been crystal-clear that there is NO excuse for violence, and appropriately condemned the idiotic actions that provoked it.

Only a desperate politician would use this tragedy as an opportunity to score political points, and only blind partisans would support his words - especially on the anniversary of 9/11.

Romney has proven once again how unfit and unprepared he is to be Commander-in-Chief. He lacks the diplomacy, patience and judgement required to deal with different cultures and countries.

I pray we are not ignorant enough as a nation to elect a man who will return us to the Bush era of "Cowboy Diplomacy" that damaged our standing in the world.

BTW...First Read wants to somehow rewrite history saying the statement was released before the attacks. The full text reads:

"The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others"

How about a little honesty in reporting First Read...oh yeah, this is the network of Andrea Mitchell...honesty isn't expected.

Dangerfield:

Those on the left and right who choose to use this tragedy, and the murders of our diplomats as a soapbox for their petty partisan politics are to be pitied...

We know who on the right is trying to exploit this tragedy: Mitt Romney and his surrogates. So please tell us, who on the left is doing the same? You wouldn't be engaging in a little false equivalency, now, would you?

To those right wing pundits!

It is obvious that you lack the same measure of foreign policy experience that Willard lacks! Your condemnation of the President at a time like this is as inexcusable as those responses from the likes of the barfly, Reince Priebus or that of the ½ Governor, Sarah Palin!

At a time when Americans should be taking time to Honor those whose lives were taken in this callous, senseless and malevolent act and offing sympathy to their families, those of the right have used this to enact some sort of political gain! And you and those of the extreme right claim to know how to run a country?

Instead of directing your ire at those individuals who would make and promote a film of this sort that was designed to inflame the Muslim community you choose to lie by castigating the President for remarks that he never made, you choose to rebuke that same President by bundling all of his foreign policy into this one event and calling it a failure! The shame of those who would politicize these events is theirs and theirs alone!

I for one condemn those who lack the morals and intelligence that led them to create and promote a film that for all purposes was intended to enrage those of the Muslim faith responsible for these events as being morally culpable every bit as much as I condemn those who engaged in the assault on our Embassy and the murder of our diplomats and their staff.

My heart felt sympathies and prayers go to the families of those who gave their lives in the ongoing struggle to make the World not only a safer but a better place to live for all people!!

JoAnnaSmith1

So with attacks going against US embassies in the Middle-East, Obama is booked on Letterman, but he has no time for Israels Prime Minster Netanyahu.

Hey, Sniffy

"Contrary to reports in the press, there was never a request for Prime Minister Netanyahu to meet with President Obama in Washington, nor was a request for a meeting ever denied," the statement said.

[source] New York Times

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Besides that Tehran knows its forces are no match for those of the United States.

BiBi is just trying to help the right wing fear mongers and the insane fox t-party to a war to garner votes against President Obama.

Most Israeli citizens don't want a war with Iran

Binyamin Netanyahu and western hawks who seek an early strike are ignoring Israel's security experts and people

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/29/israel-citizens-dont-want-war-iran

Majority of Americans say Hell Na to an Iran war in all circumstances, support direct talks

Interestingly, support for direct talks between the US and Iran is on the rise, with 67% support, up from 61% support in the 2010 survey.

All of this is in spite of the survey's findings of significant levels of misinformation about the status of Iran's nuclear program:

http://www.niacinsight.com/2012/09/11/majority-of-americans-oppose-iran-war-in-all-circumstances-support-direct-talks/

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Romney blew it, and should be ashamed of himself for jumping to conclusions, much like our current president has done for the past 4 years.

If only the media were as quick to correct our current president.....

As for Israel, it is clear that Obama would rather appease Muslims than our greatest ally.

Robme Fans, Which Romney are you Voting for ???????????????????????

Oh, I got it, Caesar. You're not nearly as smart or as funny as you think you are. Mostly just an irrelevant, if amusing, diversion.

Back on the JoAnna detail today, I see.

Good luck with that. So far, you're no better than she was.

And I don't need scotch to know a buffoon when I see one.

how did you put it? Rattle your cage did I? No, what it is, is a lack of civil discussion because the majority of the left on FR don't like those that won't cheerlead and carry Obama water. you rather worry about what the Real Caesar Augustus did 2000 years ago with taxes. You would rather worry about the liberal indoctrination of students and abusing those that refuse to assimilate. AM you're no better than the SRP of the early USSR. as i told some of your lefty dip brethren, spare us the sanctimonious attitude.

SW430: I for one condemn those who lack the morals and intelligence that led them to create and promote a film that for all purposes was intended to enrage those of the Muslim faith responsible for these events as being morally culpable every bit as much as I condemn those who engaged in the assault on our Embassy and the murder of our diplomats and their staff.

You have the right to condemn those who made the film, but do you defend their right to do so?

For those buying into First Read's attempt to rewrite history, please note the timing as reported by USA today:

"After the protest, the U.S. Embassy issued this statement..."

no joe, no bo, nj

One more time, Houston-the apology from our government was issued as a response to the attack on our Embassy in Egypt.

No matter how many times you lie, it's still a lie. The only thing that changes is that you're more of a liar every time you tell it. The statement was issued in response to a hateful movie in an attempt to keep protests in Egypt from turning violent. They were not issued in RESPONSE to the violence. Romney made a fool out of himself by making stuff up in hopes it was true before he knew the details. You KNOW what you're saying is false and so do Romney's hacks who are refusing to admit they were wrong.

So, is this the wealth of foreign policy experience Obama possesses on display?

If he'd simply taken the proper action and released grain, corn, and soy from our reserves when he was warned about the ramifications of food shortages in the area back in early 2010-NONE of this would be happening.

And, sorry- but pointing out that Obama is a complete failure is a statement of fact- not a political position.

I'm as outraged by these attacks as I was by the attack on our Embssy in Iran- due entirely to the incompetence of the office holder at the time- a man I had campaigned for, even though I was too young to vote for him.

Continued belief in the abilities of someone who has proven totally incompetent is not just ridiculous- but dangerous. It's time for Obama to go.

"It is obvious that you lack the same measure of foreign policy experience that Willard lacks!" - ScottW

So you support the foreign policy experience of Iran's continual unabated march towards a nuclear weapon and having our ambassadors murdered at the hands of protestors. Nice.

Also, lest you and Obama forget, I'll note that Romney has the same exact amount of foreign policy experience as "The Great One" had when taking office only Romney will likely have a Secretary of State with copious amounts of experience instead of naming the novice Clinton.

After all "tolerance" remember??

you'll be tolerated if you would only join the cult. You have to read the fine print.

Peace prize my azz. Nobel is turing in his grave

Mitt-the-Twit is as big an IMBECILE as Sam Becile.

"No matter how many times you lie, it's still a lie. The only thing that changes is that you're more of a liar every time you tell it. The statement was issued in response to a hateful movie in an attempt to keep protests in Egypt from turning violent. They were not issued in RESPONSE to the violence." - Houston!

Actually Houston! it's you and First Read who are lying. Please see post #1.108. Violence had already started as the embassy had already been attacked, walls scaled even in the face of warning shots fired.

Caesar--I hear that!

D. Appel

Romney has accused Obama of starting a “War on Coal”, but it is the oil & gas industry that stands to benefit most from the Clean Air Act. Oil & gas giants have donated nearly $2,285,000.00 to Romney’s campaign; Exxon, the Koch Brothers, Oxbow Corp, Chesapeake Energy and Chevron plus the nearly $300,000.00 Paul Ryan has garnered from them ^[1] . Follow the money.

So true D. Appel

Whatever happens it all starts with the"Insane Fox Tea Party" from beginning to the next bit of minutiae.

http://www.disorderlyreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/T-Alice-TeaPartySmall.jpg

Obama/Biden 2012

It sickens my Stomach to see Romney politicize the 4 American Deaths, There family members haven't even been told and this POS is politicizing this. I could never vote for a man that has no MORALE COMPASS. Mitt GO TO HELL

Yep,

I am sure that a rich spoiled Israeli-American real state developer, making a hateful and disrespectful movie of Islam, is another one of Obama's presidential faults, Right?

All right Mr Romney, we hear you!

Enjoy the spotlight while you can, after all you are entitled to your opinion, under freedom of speech, just like this idiot Bacil did, in making that movie!

Just remember something Mr Romney or Mr Bacile, your freedom of speech rights are " Only guaranteed on US Soil ".

Now, having said that, your specific brand of freedom of speech ( hate and ridicule ) of others religion, race, social status, etc, etc, should not be protected even on American Soil, let alone overseas, and that is exactly what happened here.

Mr Bacile's ( Imbecil ) shotgun movie loaded with hate and ridicule of someone else's religion backfired, and because of that 4 American citizens are dead.

Mr Bacile passport should be confiscated, and he should be tried at a Court of law in the US for being responsible for the deaths of 4 American diplomats.

Real state developer my Arse!

This worldwide network of Israeli extremists are just as bad as the ones in Notzy Germany in 1938, and yes, given the opportunity, they would kill and fund wars, not only against Islam, but any other religion that gets on their way, just like the Notzies of the late 1930's Germany did.

They are doing their damnest to drag the United States into another war, now with Iran.
Our detachment from foreign oil, and new efficiency CAFE rules should have started 30 yrs ago, not today.

So now, we are still stuck in the Middle East due to oil dependency.

Oh, by the way Mr Romney, there is another low budget youtubish movie out there, and it is called Obama 2016, and I'm pretty sure that it is also another one of Obama's presidential failures.

What a pair of morons ( Bacile and Romney ).

Obviously, the only way the cult members can continue believing is to lie to others, and themselves.

No matter how many times you repeat the lie, the FACT remains that the apology statement was out out ADTER our Embassy in Egypt was attacked, AFTER our flag was torn down and replaced.

I suppose there is some hope for you- after all, you do not attempt to defend the indefensible. Lying, however, does not change the facts.

I not helps you continue to blindly follow a president actually worse than Carter.

Whatever happens it all start with "Insane Fox Tea Party"

yeah Brian Williams tried to paint that picture too, too bad he looked like a petulant azz as a result. So Bev I see you want to be heir to that crown.

Obviously, the only way the cult members can continue believing is to lie to others, and themselves.

and the lame bully, gang bangin tactics used against those not part of the Liberal People's Temple

In 2004, Mitt Romney signed an assault weapons ban for Massachusetts, although he now supports, and his campaign is in part funded by, the NRA. He says that his position, now, is that he opposes most gun control.

Romney is careful to downplay the fact that he, in fact, holds a law degree in addition to his business degree. He is as much a lawyer as Obama. Clint Eastwood’s gaff regarding lawyers, at the RNC, was interesting.

Romney promised, when running for governor of Massachusetts, he would keep his state's pro-abortion rights position, which he did. Now his position is that he opposes legal abortions and will work towards overturning Roe v. Wade. The position has shifted even farther and his running mate, Paul Ryan, opposed abortion even in the case of rape, incest or danger to the life of the woman.

As governor, Mitt Romney penned the Massachusetts health-care plan, which mandated that most individuals in that commonwealth purchase health care insurance. Mr. Romney says that his health-care plan was good policy for Massachusetts, but that as president he'd work to overturn Mr. Obama's health-care law, which also includes an individual mandate. Who is burdened with paying for HIS health care insurance? – the Taxpayers!

Romney wants to make Medicare a ‘voucher’ system. If Romney becomes president, those of us not yet collecting Medicare benefits, but were MANDATED to pay into that system for years, would have to find health care through private insurance companies. Not surprising when you realize that Romney’s collected over $1,730,000.00 from the insurance industry for his campaign this year and over $850,000.00 in 2008 for his ill-fated try at the seat; over two and a half million dollars to ‘insure’ that he looks out for the interest of the insurance companies.

Romney's record suggests he favors regulation. In 2005, Romney lauded the state's establishment of carbon emission limits that he said, "will provide real and immediate progress in the battle to improve our environment." Now he claims that emission standards are a “War on Coal” and he wants them eliminated.

Romney hired environmental activist Douglas Foy to head four Massachusetts agencies; Transportation, Commonwealth Development, Housing and Environment & Energy. Foy served as negotiator on a regional climate-change initiative and helped draft regulations to put emissions caps in place for coal-fired power plants. Foy stood at Romney’s side outside a coal-fired plant while Romney explained, "I will not create jobs or hold jobs that kill people, and that plant, that plant kills people.". Romney also backed a regional cap-and-trade system. In Dec. 7, 2005 press release, Romney announced, "These carbon emission limits will provide real and immediate progress in the battle to improve our environment," and touted Massachusetts as "the first and only state to set CO2 emissions limits on power plants.". Romney was against coal … now he’s for it?

Romney has accused Obama of starting a “War on Coal”, but it is the oil & gas industry that stands to benefit most from the Clean Air Act. Oil & gas giants have donated nearly $2,285,000.00 to Romney’s campaign; Exxon, the Koch Brothers, Oxbow Corp, Chesapeake Energy and Chevron plus the nearly $300,000.00 Paul Ryan has garnered from them . Follow the money. The oil & gas companies are delighted about restrictions on coal; it benefits them immensely. The CEO of natural-gas giant Chesapeake Energy, Aubrey McClendon, donated more than $25 million to the Sierra Club for its “Beyond Coal” campaign, which included lawsuits that produced both the mercury and greenhouse-gas rules Romney says are the basis of Obama’s war on coal. The coal-fired power plants say, in order to meet emission standards, they may need to convert to natural gas. Who stands to benefit?

The Wall Street Journal (Jan. 9, 2012) examined 77 businesses Bain invested in while Mr. Romney led the firm from its 1984 start until early 1999 to see how they fared during Bain’s involvement and shortly afterward. Among the findings: 22% either filed for bankruptcy reorganization or closed their doors by the end of the eighth year after Bain first invested, sometimes with substantial job losses. An additional 8% ran into so much trouble that all of the money Bain invested was lost.

Mitt Romney profited personally and was the director of Damon Corp. In 1996 Damon Corp. was convicted of Medicare fraud. It had defrauding Medicare of millions of dollars and the company was fined $100 million. Romney made a fortune.

Romney believes that “corporations are people.” If that is so, then the CEOs, etc. should not have protection from personal legal action; their personal assets should be fair game in lawsuits instead of having the protection afforded by a corporate veil.

In 2003, Romney and Bain Capital surfaced in a federal securities investigation that alleged Lehman Brothers had improperly inflated the value of stock in the Bain-financed DDi Corporation. The Romney/Bain takeover of DDi included a quick dump of hundreds of employees, and there are strong indications that Romney/Bain influenced a Lehman Brothers analyst to issue a favorable stock rating (they have it a 1-Buy, its highest rating) so Bain could reap huge profits and escape before allowing / causing the company to tank. Lehman Brothers paid $80 million to settle the SEC charges that it had manipulated the stock recommendations for five companies, including DDi. More people out of work, more investors tricked into buying worthless stock and more money in Romney’s pocket. (And, before anyone yells that Romney had “retired” from Bain before some of these things happed, let me remind you that, as part of his retirement agreement, Romney still continues to get profits from all of Bain’s deals. Does anyone really think that he isn’t influencing the Bain decision-making when he has millions of dollars on the line?)

Romney, speaking at Emory University in 2010, responded to a question about helping people who were laid off this way: “I think it’s important to underscore something, which is that economists and business people can acknowledge that creative destruction does enhance productivity and raise the standards of living of the people of a society. That sounds great. Except creative destruction does not sound real good if it happens to you. And for an economy to thrive, as ours does, there a lot of people who will suffer as a result of that.” So, Mitt, are YOU suffering?

Mitt Romney claims that he didn’t raise taxes in Massachusetts when he was governor, when in fact he raised hundreds of millions in new government “fees.”

Romney boasts of Massachusetts’ financial turnaround due to his “vetoing hundreds of bills; making 800 vetoes while governor, but he fails to mention that 700 were overridden including a minimum wage bill that he vetoed in 2006, which was overridden unanimously. Apparently Romney didn’t think ‘those people’ needed more money in wages. Spin it, Romney!

Romney has stated that he would cut all funding to Public Broadcasting.

Romney has stated that he would cut all funding for the National Endowment for the Arts & Sciences.

Romney has made it clear that he would allow the removal of natural resources from our national parks … because he doesn’t see any other value in that land.

Romney has made a $250 million fortune buying struggling companies - offering them empty promises, loading them with millions of dollars in loan debt against their assets, taking the money from that loan debt as a ‘consulting fee’, then bankrupting the companies because he had sucked the life from them, leaving in his wake unemployed Americans and empty buildings. Romney’s motto is: Profit Before People (the ‘little people’, that is, not HIS people).

If Romney’s record is an indication of the future he is planning, all Americans would end up paying for his acquisition of America.

Obama / Biden 2012

Obviously, the only way the cult members can continue believing is to lie to others, and themselves.

Yes, like raped women cannot get pregnant. You're a real intellectual.

Wow, no jo: you are about to spin a hole in the ground, so irrational are you about your President.

Romney was not only wrong to step out ahead of getting the full story, he was imprudent. He is listening to the neocons who have caused this world such trouble.

Here is what both you, posing as a patriotic American, and he, posing as something other than a stuffed shirt, should have said:

"We extend our sympathies to the victims and families of this tragedy. We have confidence that our President and Secretary of State (your crush, Hillary) will act with the best interest of our nation, as well as the world, as their watchword and duty. It is not for us to politicize this but to deplore this violence."

See, no jo? That's what patriots, a word alien to you and Romney, should do.

no joe, no bo, nj

I notice there was no mention of the fact that the very people who killed our Ambassador are the people Obama engaged in an illegal "kinetic military action" to assist in taking over their government.

So exactly who are the "very people" you speak of?

Seems to me your jumping the gun as your boy Mittens did

am @ 1.82 -- how very nice of you. i was a teacher in downstate Illinois many years ago. i faced many challenges from students of factory workers who aspired to be just like their parents.

i grow weary of your day-to-day whining about others.

i grow weary of your day-to-day whining about others.

Then throw her on ignore, as it is working again. I'm sure she'll care. A lot.

Mike SA

Actually Houston! it's you and First Read who are lying. Please see post #1.108. Violence had already started as the embassy had already been attacked, walls scaled even in the face of warning shots fired.

As much as you hate Barack Obama, you can't change the flow of time. It's not only First Read that's debunked Romney's disgraceful political attack:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/analysis-attacks-attack/story?id=17216915#.UFCmo7Xi58E

However, as ABC's Jake Tapper points out, the attacks by Republicans, including Romney's, do "not stand up to simple chronology. The US Embassy in Cairo issued a statement 'condemn(ing) the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims' -- referring to the anti-Muslim movie allegedly inflaming the demonstrators, rioters, and attackers --- but that statement was issued before the attacks on the diplomatic missions."

ToxicChemist

(Obama): "To all of the Muslim extremists out there, I would like to apologize for America.......".....Oh, and here's a few billion taxpayer dollars to buy some American flags to burn at your next rally."

Yeah, you liberal morons....What a great leader we have.

ToxicChemist,

Here is the translation for dummies:

The apology tour that never was. Your Pants are on Fire!

President Obama's words fell short of an apology, mostly because he didn't use the words "sorry" or "regret." "I think to make an effective apology, the words 'I'm sorry' or 'we're sorry' always have to be there,

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/31/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-said-barack-obama-began-his-presidency/

Can you find a way to handle the truth?

Obama/Biden 2012

Clinton's statements on the day's events, released through the State Department's website and Twitter feed, condemn "in the strongest possible terms" an attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya in Benghazi that left one American dead, but offer no condemnation of the attack on the U.S. embassy in Cairo.

Instead, Clinton reiterates an apology issued earlier today by the U.S. Embassy in Cairo--now deleted--which said: "We condemn the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims."

"The U.S. deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others," Clinton said. "Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation," she added.

However, the White House has distanced itself from such apologies, according to Politico, saying that they were not "cleared by Washington."

Clinton and the State Department issued the apology AFTER the attacks! The State Department and Clinton are apart of the Obama Administration, Obama himself can try to distance himself but only because he didn't make any Statement about the attacks for 8 HOURS!

Why is it he is distancing himself from these apologies and be ok, but Romney can not say that they are disgusting?

AGAIN, The State Department and the Embassy both doubled down on the apologies after the attacks. Is Obama the Commander and CHief or not? Just another finger pointing excerise.

Mike and others,

It seems you are missing or ignoring a major piece of this equation regarding Romney's response. They condemn the statement put out by the Embassy and say that Obama didn't condemn the violence. The Embassy's statement (not cleared by Washington or the State Dept) was put out BEFORE any of the violence even started!!! I believe CNN, NYTimes, American Spectator, and Politico, amongst others over USA Today anytime! They all indicate the statement was put out in the morning, before the violence began. The Embassy put out this statement along with another warning statement to Americans in the area about possible protests. This was widely reported on all the news channels this morning. CNN reported this morning that rumors had circulated that the movie was being shown in the US nationwide on 9/11, not just that it was a youtube video. This rumor fueled the fire and the Embassy knew this could cause problems, so it does what it supposed to do, invoke diplomacy to try to avoid anything breaking out. Obviously it did break out and then, after the Ambassador was determined to be unaccounted for, but no one yet could confirm he had been killed, Romney puts out this extremely irresponsible statement condemning the Administration for something it didn't even do! They really seem to have no clue! Coming from the person who wants to be the President, this is a completely irresponsible move to not know or even check when the statement from the Embassy had been put out, what it was in relation to and, as we have seen time and again from this campaign, get the facts straight, particularly in such a volatile and fluid situation. It really does seem that they have NO diplomatic sense whatsoever. And for those of you who think we should have already begun sending in the bombs and Obama is sitting around doing nothing, you really are delusional. The responsibility of the President (any President) is to gather all the information, take in the advice from his diplomatic and military personnel, and make an informed decision. Unless you missed it, the statement in response to the violence and deaths that Pres Obama and Sec Clinton did put out were very strong. But, don't let the facts get in the way of your igorance and "anti-Obama at any cost attitude." I mean, why start now?

Caesar Augustus --

AM you're no better than the SRP of the early USSR. as i told some of your lefty dip brethren, spare us the sanctimonious attitude.

Quoth the virtual king thereof.

But, hey, I get the point. And actually, I've gotten it just about enough.

You've perhaps noticed that I've stopped using any nicknames for you since the "sarcophagus" comment yesterday. There's a reason for that. If you don't like my "sanctimonius attitude," then stop addressing me, and I'll do the same.

Simple as that. Have a nice life.

Or .... "Is it the real life ...." See you in your dreams, Mercury Man.

LogicRequired I was about to post the same tweet from the State Department and Hilary, apologizing again at nearly 8 PM yesterday...well after the attacks. You beat me to it.

Politico is NOT a news organization!

Politico shills for Obama and tries to change the subject when it fits and writes non sense pieces such as this that the rest of the media pick up on. A little research by the other media groups would have found that the issued apology was issued both before and after the attacks, and that the State Department also issued the same non sense.

So I guess it's okay for President Obama to criticize that disgraceful apology but not Romney. And now the left is claiming the apology in question from the U.S. Embassy in Cairo was made before the compound was attacked. But it's just a fact that the on Twitter and elsewhere, even after the attack, that the Embassy defended and stood by the apology. And let me reiterate that after the attack, Hillary doubled down on it.

Sheep

Logic its called Liberal Media and libby sheep hypocrites. Doesnt Obama have a Nobel Peace Prize? Someone kindly remind me how and why? I'll wait for you lame libby response, lefties.

Simple as that. Have a nice life.

Or .... "Is it the real life ...." See you in your dreams, Mercury Man.

Vale Cicero HAHAHA.

Eight hours later, President Obama finally got around to condemning the monsters who attacked us on our own soil and killed our fellow citizens.

Why does it take so long for Obama to even make a statement? Because the apologies being issued were attacked so he had to distance himself from them and say they were not approved while he and his staff write something better. HE is a joke of a leader!

The fact that Romney - who is no one - decided to open his mouth on this matter is beyond unbelievable. This is a person who has had no job since 2008 - does absolutely NOTHING - and yet he feels he should open his mouth on something he knows NOTHING about!

This moron has to be sent back to the Caymans! He's dangerous for this country.

Obama/Biden 2012

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/09/12/tragedy_in_libya

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/09/12/romney_campaign_links_embassy_attacks_to_obama_s_failed_middle_east_policies

geo-1957883

Bev - Who's side are you on? The useless Democrat Mayor, or The Democrat Teachers Union, who graduates 40% of thier students? I thought you told me there would be no strike?

Bev - After reading your posts, how long were Chicago teachers on strike when you went to school?

geo, First of all, I attended parochial school for 12 years. NUNs don't strike.

The next think is the operative words there are "you thought". Something your pea brain can't do is" think"

Obama/Biden 2012

This moron has to be sent back to the Caymans! He's dangerous for this country

Wait Romney is American why would he go back to the Caymans? Then I guess I can say Obama needs to pack and head for Kenya? What did you say, Romney's rich yet you're whining he has no job? What about you, nah guberment teat eh? You're a partisan hack, SIMPLE AS THAT. Now come back with some quip on my intelligence. Look in the mirror and do some soul searching, but something tells me you're too self righteous.

billybob --

@ 1.82 -- how very nice of you. i was a teacher in downstate Illinois many years ago. i faced many challenges from students of factory workers who aspired to be just like their parents.

i grow weary of your day-to-day whining about others.

And just what do you think YOU'RE doing?

But that's easy to fix.

Listen to all the squealing , whining and diversion, trying to save noble leaders bacon by blaming anybody, everybody, but the author of this debacle,because the Dems know if people are allowed to actually reflect upon Obama's actions ,He's done, but facts are facts,and they will come out, it was Obama that bypassed Congress to take it upon himself to overthrow the Governments of Egypt and Libya, with no idea,(I hope to God), of Who would replace them, and who has replaced these governments that were aligning themselves with the United States? Radical Islamists, who since being put into power by Obama, have murdered, raped,and crucified Christians,burned churches, and now pose a direct threat to Israel and Our interests in the region, and as a final note, If anyone believes that these "incidents" were not coordinated to occur on 9-11 to show that Their "Jihad" is not really over, I have some badly dog eared and faded Obama Hope and Change posters I'll sell You, Cheap,(Chinese currency only).

Why does it take so long for Obama to even make a statement?

I don't know...

Maybe, because had the President come out earlier you would still find something to bitch about?

I'll take the man, who takes the time to asses the entire situation & be briefed by his SOS rather than some war mongering nut who shoots himself in the foot at every turn!

But hey, that's just me...

When is Mitt Romney going to condemn the hate speech in the Israeli movie that sparked the violence in the Middle East? Probably never, because he mistakenly thinks he can win a significant share of the Jewish vote by pandering to the worst extremists in the Jewish population. He might actually get more votes by showing some integrity and condemning the hate speech as well as the violence it triggered, but integrity is just not part of his character.

FOOLS RUSH IN.....

After saying he was “outraged” by these attacks and the death of an American consulate worker, Romney said, “It's disgraceful that the Obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.” Yet after learning every piece of new information about those attacks, the Romney statement looks worse and worse -- and simply off-key. First, Romney was referring to a statement that the U.S. embassy in Egypt issued condemning the “efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.” But that embassy statement, which the White House has distanced itself from, was in reference to an anti-Islam movie and anti-Islam pastor Terry Jones, and it came out BEFORE the embassy attacks began.

HOW PRESIDENTS REACT TO THE INFORMATION THAT THEY ARE GIVEN IS IMPORTANT. ESPECIALLY ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11, THIS SHOULD REMIND US, WE CANNOT AFFORD A ROMNEY PRESIDENCY.

just24

Yesterday we saw Mitt insert politics in his 9/11 speech and now this............what a shame. Another sign this man's campaign is drowning and desperately in need of a life line.

Even Odder

Fox News Uses 9/11 to Falsely Attack Obama for Omitting God

Again, the couch potatoes (Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade ) in juxtaposition to the rotten tomato (Gretchen Carlson) spead false hoods to their viewers to achieve the FOX EFFECT. According to them "GOD Got The Boot".
Obama has "called for a moment of silence, but has not called for the word God. So some people are asking, why is God being left out again?" Later, her colleague Steve Doocy said: "On this most somber of days, get this. Does the President of the United States call on people to pray for those lives lost? No."

But the reality is that President Obama followed the example of President George W. Bush who did not include the word God in his 2006, 2007, and 2008 Patriot Day proclamations.
As reported by RawStory.com, President Obama's proclamation reads as follows:

Obama called on "God's grace" and asked people to pray for the lives lost in a separate official proclamation declaring the days between September 7 and September 9 as national days of prayer and remembrance in commemoration of the September 11 terrorist attacks:

"I think it's also good just to keep politics out of this in this election year," Kilmeade said

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/11/fox-news-uses-911-to-falsely-attack-obama-for-omitting-god/

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Hypocrites! How about FOX & Fiends keeping religion out the discussion? After all, FOX NOISE is not a religious channel. In fact, it is not even a news channel. But, FOX NOISE does this to achieve the "FOX EFFECT" for their stooge audience.

Unbeknownst to Steve Doocy, most people think FOX Noise is full of crap.

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Obama/Biden 2012

J.D. Still is exactly right about the Arab Spring Obama and the media were trying to spin as accomplishments for Obama. The Arab Spring was radical Islamist taking over corrupt but practical Governments. Libya was not so friendly to the United States but he did keep his radicals in line, Egypt on the other hand was very friendly, kept piece with Israel, and kept the radicals in line. Now we have radicals controling a couple more middle east Countries. Remember Obama's Arab Spring came after he completely ignored the uprisings in Iran. Good call Obama, now Iran has more radical allies to work with.

Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Brooke Brower:

Romney was exactly correct in his statement, and, I am as outraged at Obama Administration's original statement overlooking the US lives lost as Romney is. THE PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES ARE US FAMILY! What is wrong with you people?. Look on Gretawiredotcom on

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BREAKING NEWS: AMERICAN DEAD! ATTACK ON US CONSULATE

by Greta Van Susteren

SEP 11 2012 - 8:01 PM ET

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Libyan security official tells the Associated Press that one American was shot dead, another wounded in attack on U.S. consulate.

9/11/12 at 8:12 P.M: "

US Official Killed In Libya Prophet Protest

Sky NewsSky News –

A US official has been killed and others wounded in Libya as an armed mob protesting over a film they said offended Islam attacked the US consulate in Benghazi."

At 8:22 p.m. on Gretawire dot com: (and US bodies in the embassy)

“The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”

(note: I lifted this response from Byron York’s article – linked in the previous blog posting.)(By Greta).

At 10:39 pm on 9/11/12 "

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Presidential candidate Mitt Romney on the developments in Libya and Egypt -

“I'm outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It's disgraceful that the Obama Administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.” Gretawire dot com.

9/12/12 at 12:14 a.m. Subject: Response to Governor Romney's Statement"

“We are shocked that, at a time when the United States of America is confronting the tragic death of one of our diplomatic officers in Libya, Governor Romney would choose to launch a political attack.”

Anna Molly- you as a teacher didn't have time for sullen narcissists with God complexes, so you wouldn't have had time for Obama huh?

It is unfortunate that a lie like this will be spread and gobbled up by the massess, spoon fed by Fox.

The "lie," that Cairo diplomats, later shortened to Obama only for ease, (apologized to the attackers) will run through the backwood lots and suburban homes across the country. In a time when people should allow the families to grieve and the government to respond, anger that should be directed at the murdering mob is leveled at the administration.

The statement of Cairo was directed at the makers of the movie. Even in a warped reality that some GOP find themselves, the White House condemned the attacks as did the Sec. of State. A honest person can see that, but much like those who lie that Obama's speech in Egypt after election was an apology tour, they will lie.

The more you look at Mitt Robme, The more he looks like Bush 43. Cowboy Diplomacy, He shoots off at the mouth before any facts are in. Are Americans ready for many many more wars if Romney becomes POTUS. A VOTE FOR ROMNEY IS A VOTE FOR MORE WAR, and we know it wont be his children fighting and dieing

I'll take the man, who takes the time to asses the entire situation & be briefed by his SOS rather than some war mongering nut who shoots himself in the foot at every turn!

8 hours is a long briefing. How hard is it to say I condemn these attacks on America?

In fact Obama had time to first condem Romney before he got around to saying anything about the attacks!

Romney has never "war mongered", he never said anything about military action, and he didn't shoot himself in the foot. I completely agree with his statement of disgust for the apologies, that as I have pointed out from media sources not vetted by the White House out DID COME both before and AFTER the attacks!

So if Romney isn't qualified on Foreign affairs why is it that the neophyte Obama qualifies?

Google Egyptian Embassy attack timeline - then try and find any publication that supports the timeline advocated by our resident rwnj's (you know who you are). Repeating a lie often enough does NOT make it the truth.

Please note: the statement of apology was composed by those at the embassy and issued from the embassy.

Who did Obama condemn first Romney or radicals killing Americans?

Answer = Romney

LogicReguired

Look above at my somewhat long comment for the actual time record, or, go to Gretawire dot com and see for yourself.

Romney was representing the US Family. I do not know who the Obama Administration was originally representing, but, it was not the US Family.

smitty1118

My thoughts are with those families who lost their loved ones in Cairo.

There were no deaths in Cairo. Please keep those families who lost their loved ones in Benghazi, Libya in your thoughts. As, I hope, we all will.

I understand where you are coming from, but, when any of us make a misstatement of where or who, there are hundreds who pass it on as being a fact.

What a day for obama... -(1st..he sends $$$ 1 BILLION tax -dollars to Egypt ..-(2nd. he shuns the leader of Israel.. -(3rd..he has a jimmy carter experience with his mulism-broHOOD buddies.. -(4th..the Egypt USA compound is over ran and the US Flag is burned--obama will not salute it anyway... -(5th. Syria kills the USA ambassador and many more Americans.. -(6th.RA--.emmanual and the union thugs in Chicago stage a riot that puts children on the street when murders in chicago have escalated...(7th..nbc says credit for USA to be downgraded again. (8th.. Russian and cartel submarines invade the US undetected.. (9th. obamaDoNOTcare is the largest tax in world history, that NO ONE can afford...

yep, our prez is doing a great job...NO economy or jobs, NO foreign respect, NO concern for Americans being murdered by muslum-terrorist or by street thugs, NO security on the US border....Increases taxes on the middle class and kills Medicare--700 billion removed, cuts the pay to our TROOPS..

as Eastwood said, this craziness has got to stop!! WE the people hired you to do a job and you have FAILED..now WE will replace you!!

If this idiot were to win in November (not bloody likely), I can just see him rushing in guns ablaze every time some incident occurs somewhere on the planet. Why wait for the facts to be ascertained when the Mighty Romster is on the job!

What an !#*$ing buffoon!

Well, I just watched Romney double down on his criticism of the Egyptian embassy statement even after acknowledging that the White House quickly distanced itself from the statement. Romney implies that the embassy statement came directly from Obama, even after acknowledging that the official State Department and White House statements differed.

Let's put things in perspective. First off, a protest of about 2000 people occurred in Cairo. No weapons fired and for the most part non-violent although about 20 protesters climbed the walls a captured an American flag replacing it with sign proclaiming Allah as the one true god or something to that affect. The protesters were ultimately repelled.

So then the Cairo embassy, in an attempt to calm things down, issues its statement. One might view it as being apologetic, but if you put it into perspective, it's a pretty well worded statement that is about separating the official US position from the movie that created the disturbance. What they are saying was they are #1 not behind the movie and #2 don't support religious intolerance. The point however was about trying to calm a situation that looked pretty threatening to them.

Now I suppose they could have issued a Romney styled statement that said, "Hey Muslim Brotherhood, Go F--- yourself, we have a right to say whatever we want and it doesn't matter if it's official policy or just some nut job, we stand behind it."

Of course if you have a thinking mind, inciting a non-violent crowd that is angry already, seems like a poorly thought out strategy.

All that said, it was hours later that the violent attacks at the Libyan consulate took place. Then the Romney campaign comes out with their criticism after learning of deaths in Libya. Romney tries to make it look like the US response to the violent attack with weapons and death, was to apologize. Now maybe they are just so stupid as to not understand that Egypt and Libya are two different places or that two significantly different events took place. Regardless of what they really understand, the saw an opportunity to attack the President and simply couldn't resist.

Romney is pretty good at creating their own reality by misrepresentation and lies. When caught, he doesn't correct the record or clarify, but just doubles down with the thinking that most stupid Americans he's appealing to won't figure out that he's lying. I suspect that many hearing him don't even understand that two different incidents took place at two different places. Romney's statement was carefully crafted to avoid making any distinction whatsoever because it would be more effective for his listeners to think the statement was Obama's response to the attacks that resulted in US deaths.

I will just ask, not really expecting any of you righties to admit it, how many of you actually thought the statement was about the Libyan violent attacks and the deaths of Americans?

Maybe you learned more accurately later, but doesn't it bother you that your candidate muddies the facts to try to make his claims more credible? Doesn't it bother you that the guy lies virtually every time he opens his mouth and then continues to support the lie even after being called out on it? Is that really the kind of man you want as President? I doubt it, but you'd take the devil himself if that was the only other choice than Obama.

It becomes more starkly obvious with each passing day. The American republican party, is, in fact, interpretation, and imagination, a pack of fully ripened fools. Nary a thing, from the most basic to the most abstract complexity relative to the function of human reasoning can escape their various conjured, idiotic idioms. Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood, organized crime, and/or the cumming through of a 12 year old girl giving Her heart to Jesus during an Evangelical tent revival, anywhere in the US, displays no more malodorousness than an accomplished republican. Romney, along with so many, thinks this is the stuff of leaders. What a gwaddamn indictment of the general American character.

Look above at my somewhat long comment for the actual time record, or, go to Gretawire dot com and see for yourself.

Yeah, because Greta is such a fountain of truth! lmao!

I also see where the RWNJ's have resurrected the Carter comparision!

By all means, run with it, it worked so well the last time you dug it up! lol

Effen parrots!

CA - again, nothing but stupidity from you. Our President doesn't have his money stashed in a foreign country. See, he actually believes in the US. So, I'd love to have Romney go to where he clearly feels most comfortable.

You and your idiotic radical right friends think that because you don't work and are on the dole, everyone is. Sorry, moron, I work every day and do well. I'm able to multi-task so I get to post as well as work.

I've NEVER received government assistance but I don't begrudge those who do. After all, the economy that Bush trashed, is taking a while to recover (thank you Republicans in Congress for slowing the recovery) so people need help. See, unlike you, I have no desire to see anyone suffer because they have fallen on hard times.

You get more moronic every day and it shows in each and every post you make.

border joe - to even reference Clint Eastwood in your post shows how totally desperate and completely ignorant you are!

Obama/Biden 2012

NJNB -- You wrote:

I have a one word response to the White House pushback- BULL

No one should dictate to the United States of America on when talks will take place with our President.

WE LEAD we do not follow.

Yeah, because Greta is such a fountain of truth! lmao!

since I am on ignore I suppose Mario Batali won't see this however its funny that Mario Fisty Batali has a single nerve to comment on truth. YOU ARE A PAID BLOGGER AND POLITICAL HACK!

SeekingSanity

CA - again, nothing but stupidity from you.

Did i not call it or what. Self Righteous Seeking HAHAHA. What college and degree did you obtain your wisdom from again LOL

Heil Ceasar, while you talk about the lefties reminding you of the USSR I want to tell you the righties remind me of Nazi Germany 1930's that I lived through.

1. voter registration and ID's. Hitler used it to limit those groups voting against him. Mostly the poor. ( We have no mass voter fraud in this country as evidenced by the lack of cases.)

2. Get the Supreme Court to grant unlimited funding for elections. Hitler used this to get businesses and the wealthy he would have prosper from war pay for his election. Robert's PAK'S

3. Nazi's ran fake Christian Democratic candidates to confuses the voters. In Wisconsin the republicans ran fake Democrats in hope to confuse voters. What is next in store? Arm bands with, "Don't Tread on Me?" and the Goose Step?

Feisty

You are missing the point. The point is the timeline. You can feel however you wish about Greta as a news reporter / journalist / talking head.

However, Greta was putting on her website the news as it was coming in and putting the time on it. That cannot be disputed.

These are US Citizens serving their country who died. What is with you people who will defend Obama over them? What am I missing?

Do not answer. There is no legitimate answer, IMO.

Bev - "The next think is the operative words there are "you thought". Ahh what? Bev your showing what being a Democrat is all about. All incoherant thought!

Where is congress? With Bonehead Boehner crying in back rooms and doing nothing!

Yeah, because Greta is such a fountain of truth! lmao!

I also see where the RWNJ's have resurrected the Carter comparision!

By all means, run with it, it worked so well the last time you dug it up! lol

Effen parrots!

@Feisty: Scroll down. Concern provided us with another gem.

DAVIDE AND CONQUER!

That cannot be disputed.

Not only CAN it be disputed, it HAS been by multiple sources!

Anyone with an IQ higher than a rutabaga knows it!

You can lead the dummies to water but you can't make them think! ;o)

Feisty

"also see where the RWNJ's have resurrected the Carter comparision!

By all means, run with it, it worked so well the last time you dug it up! lol

Effen parrots!"

Who is 'RWNJ and Carter'?

I do not visit MSNBC often. I am beginning to see why. Try to stay on topic while I do visit.

clwyd-2621393

Heil Ceasar, while you talk about the lefties reminding you of the USSR I want to tell you the righties remind me of Nazi Germany 1930's that I lived through

sure you did. lets see gun rights being taken away and registration thats a Nazi thing too right? I dont see many Repubs wanting that but plenty of lefies (DC, Chi town). Voter Registration is across the board across the country and both left and right support that.

Get the Supreme Court to grant unlimited funding for elections

yet the Repubs couldnt get the SC to overturn socialized ACA. odd dont ya think

Nazi's ran fake Christian Democratic candidates to confuses the voters

atypical religious bigotry.

. In Wisconsin the republicans ran fake Democrats in hope to confuse voters

ok sure if you say so. but beat that Nazi drum. I'm sure you're familiar with Godwin's Law. Google it then

Xabre

Yeah, because Greta is such a fountain of truth! lmao!

I also see where the RWNJ's have resurrected the Carter comparision!

By all means, run with it, it worked so well the last time you dug it up! lol

Effen parrots!

@Feisty: Scroll down. Concern provided us with another gem.

DAVIDE AND CONQUER!

poor Xabie fears CC. or is it you lack the intestinal fortitude to actually take on someone your own size?

Geo, As a former Young republican , many years ago, I can assure you that after voting for Goldwater, Nixon and Reagan I can across almost all republicans who were capable of incoherent thoughts! By the way, these three names would now be considered liberals or lefties by the extremism of the republican party today!Shame on the republican party

Ever the Dumbplomat, eh, R$mney?

In your next shoe leather moment are you going to announce that we are all Libyans now, too?

Boy, if ever there was someone who should be NO WHERE NEAR a potential World Ending button, it is this moron.

This was what I said on HuffPo:

“If R$mney wants to "ACT" presidential,...he probably ought to hire an acting coach.

His FAUX outrage today was completely OUT OF LINE!

Extremists created the video and incited the violence. Embracing extremists in your party tacitly implies you're okay with it.

I cannot wait until November 7th when this TOOL finally heads off into the sunset over the Cayman Islands.”

Apology? Not unless the Obama administration has mind-reading powers.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/09/12/834861/following-murder-of-american-diplomats-romney-stands-by-misleading-attack-on-obama/

But the timeline of events undermines Romney's claim that Obama "apologized" for the nation.

The Egyptian embassy issued its statement on Tuesday morning at 6:11 AM, before protesters broke out. Once they did, and another group of demonstrators attacked the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, the Obama administration distanced itself from the early statement. "The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind," Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in a statement.

"While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants," Obama clarified in a statement on Wednesday morning.

Interestingly, former President George W. Bush struck a similar tone in 2006, after cartoons surfaced poking fun at the Prophet Muhammed and sparked protests in Europe. "Anti-Muslim images are as unacceptable as anti-Semitic images, as anti-Christian images, or any other religious belief," Bush administration State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said.

(emphasis added)

Feisty:

"Not only has CAN been disputed by multiple sources, it HAS been!

Anyone with an IQ higher than a rutabaga knows it!"

List the sources. I am more than willing to read other sources that you list. Perhaps, others on MSNBC would like to read other sources that you list, as well.

Who is 'RWNJ and Carter'?

I can see you don't get out much...

Anyway, go back and read the comments above by the right wing nut jobs comparing President Obama to Jimmy Carter.

Do try to stay current!

List the sources.

Again there are multiple sources already listed above!

Geeze, you should stick with the NewsforDumbFux site, appears to be much more your speed!

Romney is President Obamas Secret weapon, Every time Romney opens his mouth another Million Voters will go and Vote Obama. Romney an Empty Suit who constantly slams his Dick cheney in the door.

Feisty, I think this is more accurate

You can lead the dummies to Knowledge, but you can't make them think! ;o)

Caesar,

You can't face the similarities and see that it is scary. You go off on some lame excuses to ignore the similarities I mentioned. Typical of the righties and the Nazi mind set of the 30's.

Oh, by the way I'm all for gun control as we had a man in a neighboring town kill a teen on his porch that was hiding and the old guy thought he was a criminal. Killed the kid and got away with it. If I had a gun !!!!!!!!! I won't say it! (50,000 lives lost, FT. Hood, Texas Christian University, Siek Temple, Columbine. Yep, we sure need guns to protect us. Oh, all the soldiers at Fort Hood had guns and didn't stop the guy.)

A few more AK 47 's might make you feel safer?

I mentioned once on line that my cousin came to my house and unloaded a pistol from her suitcase. I told her she couldn't have it in my house and she refused to put it in her car. I called the cops and she slept at a motel. We don't even lock our doors in this town. Glad you have to live in fear each day from you description of why we need guns!

Romney is like many CEO's in that he gives orders, plots a strategy, and all those people working for him do exactly what he tells him to do if they want to keep their job.

In foreign policy, this predisposition will not work. In the middle east, people learn the history of their country's occupation by colonial European countries (1800's to 1950's). They are predisposed to resist being told what to do and being given ultimatums.

Our President understands this. The former CEO leaders of our country Bush and Cheney never understood this. And look where that got us, two wars and a trillion dollars drained from our treasury.

Romney doesn't get it either. Tough talk will only create enemies among these former colonies of Europe. Cooperation and discussions are the way forward as we try to regain their trust in us.

Meanwhile, Romney's old buddy from his pre-Bain days on Wall Street, Benjamin Netanyahi, tries to make waves to help his old buddy win this election.

Romney- BAD for America, BAD for the world

And on the anniversary of 9-11, Romney tries to gain political advantage in a time of crisis, by undermining Obama's message to the Muslim world, giving those angry mobs another reason to cheer "Yeah, we killed the American Ambassador, take that USA. Yeah, Romney's hammering Obama, that'll show 'em to make anti-Muslim movies."

You can lead the dummies to Knowledge, but you can't make them think! ;o)

Bingo Indy!

You nailed what I meant to say, good catch!

That will teach me to get distracted when commenting! ☺

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/12/hillary_clinton_libya_attacks_should_shock_the_world.html

Not only CAN it be disputed, it HAS been by multiple sources!

Anyone with an IQ higher than a rutabaga knows it!

Your multiple sources all got there information from one source - POLITICO -.

Politico started this narrative that has been shown to be wrong, but because so many other leftest media outlets have followed their lead you still think it to be true. Forget about the Cairo Embassy, the United States State Department issue a statement both condemning the attacks and apologizing after the attacks. If the State Department is not apart of the Obama Administration please tell me which administration they do belong to.

What happen to Romney's head, it doesn't look like it's on Straight ?????

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Do try to stay current!

List the sources.

Again there are multiple sources already listed above!

Being a consumer of Fox News BS, he probably has learned how not to see anything that contradicts the BS.

Anyway, go back and read the comments above by the right wing nut jobs comparing President Obama to Jimmy Carter.

Obama is no Carter, and Romney certainly isn't a Reagan. While I'm no fan of Reagan, he didn't lie and cynically exploit tragedies the way Romney does as if by knee-jerk reflex (emphasis on "jerk").

First thoughts and MSNBC are the ones going "over the top" and "throwing the kitchen sink"! You media shills are so desperate you have completely lost touch with reality. You have copied a propagandistnews outlet like Politico, and can not bring yourself to do anything but shill for Obama while attacking Romney at every chance you get. Not only are you biased, but you have become a tool of the current government. Most see you for what you really are, part of the DNC campaign machine. The only ones who deny this are either working for you or the machine. (Same thing I guess.)

The Republican leaders do not seem to agree with ROMNEY.

But no Republican leader criticized President Obama on Wednesday morning, and called instead for stronger security at U.S. diplomatic facilities, the swift capture and punishment of the perpetrators and a renewed commitment to pro-democracy efforts in the Arab world.

“We mourn for the families of our countrymen in Benghazi, and condemn this horrific attack,” House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio)said in a statement. “Eleven years after September 11, this is a jolting reminder that freedom remains under siege by forces around the globe who relish violence over free expression, and terror over democracy — and that America and free people everywhere must remain vigilant in defense of our liberties.”

Following his statement, Boehner ordered flags over the U.S. Capitol to be flown at half-staff in honor of Stevens and the other American personnel killed in Libya.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) added in a separate statement that, “These attacks will not deter America from continuing to promote peace, democracy, individual and religious freedom and an unwavering respect for human life throughout the region and the world.”

In the Senate, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) usually reserves his morning Senate floor remarks to sharply criticize Obama administration policy. But Wednesday he struck a more somber tone and expressed support for “employing every available tool at our disposal to ensure the safety of Americans overseas and to hunt down those responsible for these attacks.

“Among the things we can all agree on in Washington is that attacks on the U.S. and its representatives will be met with resolve, and that America’s presence and defense of our national interests across the globe will not be deterred by the acts of violent extremists,” McConnell said.

Even Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.)andLindsey Graham (R-S.C.) — a troika that regularly critiques the Obama administration’s foreign policy — urged Obama to continue supporting democracy efforts in Libya and Egypt.

“We cannot give in to the temptation to believe that our support for the democratic aspirations of people in Libya, Egypt, and elsewhere in the broader Middle East is naive or mistaken,” the senators said in a joint statement. “We cannot resign ourselves to the false belief that the Arab Spring is doomed to be defined not by the desire for democracy and freedom that has inspired millions of people to peaceful action, but by the dark fanaticism of terrorists.”

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) appeared to call out Romney for attacking Obama in the early hours after the attack. In a statement condemning the attacks, Lautenberg added, “At at a time when we should be standing together against these senseless acts of violence, Mitt Romney offered an atrocious political response that undermines our unity in the face of threats to Americans around the world.”

Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) expressed similar sentiments, saying in a statement: “This is one of those moments when Americans must unite as Americans. It is exactly the wrong time to throw political punches. It is a time to restore calm and proceed wisely.”

Later, in a conversation with reporters, Kerry called on Romney to apologize for his comments, and call them irresponsible, callous and reckless, according to reporters present for the exchange.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/gop-leaders-less-critical-than-mitt-romney-in-response-to-libya-attack/2012/09/12/f7c0c2e0-fce1-11e1-8adc-499661afe377_blog.html?hpid=z1

You have copied a propagandistnews outlet like Politico,

Careful there illogical one - you do know that Politico is the Idiot from Albany's bible!

Want proof? Look at his comment #1.7!

He copies & pastes from it daily and I would hardly call him a lefty! ;o)

Ahhh... the sweet irony! lmao

Mike in SA

I usually don’t waste my time by responding to folks like you but….you stated “So you support the foreign policy experience of Iran's continual unabated march towards a nuclear weapon and having our ambassadors murdered at the hands of protestors. Nice.” – Obviously you didn’t read past my initial paragraph, maybe my post was too long or I used words that confused you.

Didn’t Reagan sell weapons to Iran after our hostages were released??? I thought Conservatives were pro-Iran?, anyway, I never said that I supported Iran, matter of fact I never brought up Iran! But, do you have actual proof that Iran is building a weapon or are you relying on Fox for your so-called intelligence (LOL)? Actually we have sanctions against Iran but you stated that we weren’t doing anything, most of their nuclear scientists have been targeted and killed but why stop there!

Lets just invade!!!! Because we never know when that mushroom cloud will appear over a US city right!! They received the aluminum tubing, they are weaponizing the plutonium, they are on the verge of creating ICBM’s!!! We listened to that very same rhetoric coming out of the Bush administration that led us into Iraq and BEHOLD………. some 4,487 KIA and 32,223 wounded soldiers later WE NEVER FOUND ANY WMD’s which turned out to be a big joke by Bush at the Correspondents dinner!!!!

You want to go to war with IRAN then I suggest you and those of the conservative right including Willard’s boys pick up a weapon and fly you’re a$$es over there and fight it instead of being the HAWK COWARDS that the right has become in getting Americans into the GD wars based on lies!!! GET US THE PROOF as I will no longer believe anything that comes out of the mouths of any individual associated on the self-proclaimed “Right to Life” or “Christian” conservatives!

hey FR libbies who are you are war with today Eurasia or Eastasia LOL

JoAnna Smith - You mentioned that I jumped to the conclusion about Gabby Giffords. Look through my past files, I welcome it. I do not remember doing so.

You blast Obama's foreign policy in Libya even though it was done without loss of life. Your candidate and the GOP angrily said he would have done it better and quicker. If you remember, I put my partisanship aside. I questioned and was totally against US involvement in Libya - didn't cheerlead for an unneccesary and questionable use of "humanitarian bombing". I questioned the use of forces without Congressional approval. I questioned the siding in a civil war without knowing who we were helping.

To all of you who complain about the Arab Spring and try to pinpoint some food shipments or lack thereof for the total reason for the movement you are sorely mistaken. Not you or I know all the reasons for all of the suffering and division there. Do not try to simplify it down to food shipments. Believe me the century long division between Shia and Sunni sets, the oppressive military strongmen regimes, and the Israeli Palestinian conflicts weigh far more heavily as to why things happen in the Middle East not food shipments. What of the intervention of Al Queda on the side of the Sunni's to cause havoc in Iraq and Syria. The intervention of militants and who know who else in Libya and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt has muddied the waters even as the old school dictators have fallen. In addition to all of these internal forces there was a force of people who wanted more freedom, but still are very alien to us in culture and values. Even though they wanted our help a mere year ago they will never be exactly like us. Should we continue to have diplomatic relations with them as they try to form freer governments, yes. However, I don't want one more troop or diplomat to die over countries or areas that are not in our best foreign interests.

Regarding jumping to conclusions. To the troll ^ above who asked me to consider what Brian Willaims said after Aurora - I didn't hear what Williams implied or said. I did hear what George Stephenopolous and that other reporter implied about the mistakenly same named Tea Party guy. I clearly stated that ABC should apologize for trying to get a scoop and say that the shooter was the Tea party guy when in fact he wasn't. Read my files to see my post, back in July. I have no time to prove myself to a troll like you.

Oh, by the way I'm all for gun control

Sieg Heil mein Freund.

This is just desperation from Romney. But if you doubted that he would say absolutely anything to be President, doubt no more.

What really saddens me, though, is how easily led our friends on the right are. They have no more sense of shame than Romney does.

JoAnnaSmith1

You stated "You have the right to condemn those who made the film, but do you defend their right to do so?"

Absolutely I defend their right to do so, but as someone who yells "Fire" when there is none in a crowded theater is held accountable for their action there needs to be consequences for the actions of individuals who promote and incite hatred and violence or use issues as a catalyst knowing what the outcome will be based on past history! Terry Jones, whose burning of the Koran resulted in not only riots but the deaths of 19 people including some U.N. officials and now as the promoter of the movie he can add 4 more to the list.

When are those on the right who claim to be Christian going to start to act as Christians and stand opposed to these hate filled actions and rhetoric and if you feel that he and those surrounding this movie are faultless, well then, you are part of the problem and not part of the solution!

Dear Republicans,

We know what you did and you will be brought to justice.

Sincerely,

The American People

Mitt Romney has surpassed Newt Gingrich as the biggest pile of filth, garbage and slime in American politics. He will exploit any situation, tell any lie, change any position if he thinks it will gain him one more vote than it will cost him. I would suggest Mitt get the facts before he starts running his ignorant yap but then -- Romney could care less what the actual facts are. Fortunately after November 6 we will no longer have to listen to this disgusting excuse for an American.

Were any of these President's attacked by political opposition when these attacks happened? Was Mr. Bush attacked on 9/11 right after the towers were bombed? No! Do you know why? Because it's Un-American to attack a President when a crises happens.

December 7, 2004-
U.S. Consulate in a Saudi City Is Hit, Killing 9.

What did President Bush do?

Sept 18, 2008 a deadly attack on the US embassy in Sana'a (Yemeni)

What did President Bush do?

April 19, 1983- Pro-Iranian terrorists Monday claimed responsibility for a gigantic explosion that ripped through the U.S. Embassy, killing at least 39, including six Americans.

What did President Regan do?

October 23, 1983-
Marine Barracks, Beirut Lebanon bombed 241 Americans killed.

What did President Regan do?

Sept 12 2006-
DAMASCUS — Four gunmen attacked the American Embassy there early Tuesday, storming the compound with grenades and automatic weapons.

Who was president?

I guess after listening to all that talk radio and FAKE NEWS you have forgoten how to be americans, and have learned to hate this country.

I watched Politico's founder the other night and he sure did not seem to me to be a lefty. After listening to his comments, I concluded he was center right. I may be wrong here, but I did not detect any liberal bias.

Romney should learn to keep his mouth shut until he gets more information. I'd hate to see him as President making such rash judgments. That's how wars are started.

Angry mobs seldom reflect the overwhelming sentiment or opinion of a society. Just remember those angry mobs here in America that yelled at Congressmen and refused to let other dissenting opinions be heard at their town hall meetings back in 2009. Luckily for us, they had more sense and/or less hatred than those angry mobs in Egypt and Libya.

So where are the stories where people protected themselves from a threat with a gun Caesar? how about the more common killings and murders in malls,college campuses, at work places, on government property (forts) in the home killing family members? Sieg Heil yourself you misguided fool!

Dumby fake Republicans, who pretend to be conservative, you make me laugh.

Poor Romney has to get advice from these pinheads. You know, stupid advice like, "pounce on this," or other nonsense.

Its like Democrats listening to Barney Frank...always a bad idea.

Go on with your idiot selves, Santorum lovers who now realize your idiot ideas failed to put up a candidate...go on and try to make Romney into Santorum. Because it is full of fail.

One day, the Republican party will actually have conservatives in it, again. Until then, wake me when the radical Muslims leave the Republican party.

TO: Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL who wrote:

This man [Mitt Robme] has absolutely NO shame... what so ever!

Didn't he learn his lesson after his screw-ups on his marvelous overseas adventure last month?

Come on now Feisty! You know Mitt Robme is just the kind of Candidate Republicans LOVE -- a stumbing, bumbling idiot!

(See also, Sarah "The Bimbo" Palin and George "Curveball" Bush)

Obama/Biden 2012

clwyd - " I can assure you after voting for Goldwater, Nixon and Reagan I can across all republicans who were capable of incoherent thoughts". Well as Reagan said, there you go again!!!!!!!!!!!!!

geo, That is why and you are why I became a Democrat. God save us from republican incoherent thoughts?

WOW. About 5% of these posts are NOT simply about tearing apart the other side. We'll never get anywhere like this!

No candidate for public office has ever stepped into an international crisis to criticize a sitting president before all the facts have been published. It's never done because it is extremely dangerous to our national security.

Mr. Romney leaped in before he understood the facts, and his grasp of the situation turned out to be incorrect. The timing of the embassy's statement--whether before or after the protests began--is irrelevant. That statement was NOT an apology. It condemned the misuse of free speech.

Jo-Anna Smith is legally incorrect when she asks us to defend the filmmaker's 'right' to make a film attacking one of the world's major religions. Our 1st Amendment right to free speech does have limits; for example, it's against the law to yell "Fire!" in a public theater when there is no fire. Free speech is in fact CRIMINAL when it becomes "incitement to riot." As an attorney, I assure you these laws are well-established as settled law and have been for a hundred years and more--at both federal and state levels. Mr. Romney is a lawyer; he should know the lawful limits of free speech. Apparently, however, he no longer recalls what he was taught in law school.

Sadly, not one post here has pointed out that Mr. Romney came out with his scathing attack not only before the facts were out--HE ANNOUNCED THE DEATHS BEFORE THE FAMILIES HAD EVEN BEEN NOTIFIED.

In the first instance, Mr. Romney reveals his lack of statesmanship or any dignity of office--proving himself unfit for the presidency. He's willing to put our national security at risk to score political points.

In the second, politically motivated to bust somebody's chops without consideration for the relatives of the deceased, he proves himself a contemptible human being.

He'll do whatever his handlers tell him to do. Days ago, they said, "Lean left. We've already got the right." So he said he'd keep some part of the Healthcare Act. Then Palin said, "Get personal. Be seriously aggressive." So he stepped in, and now has egg on his face.

Bottom line? The man can't control his own campaign. This is the most feeble campaign I've witnessed, at 62. If he can't even do that, he surely can't handle being president.

His statement--and he announced the name of the deceased ambassador--was how those families first heard the devastating news. Shocking. Deplorable.

Dee, if there is indeed a law that makes it criminal to speak freely if the words "incite a riot," then we need to use this law or amend it enough to slap Pastor Terry Jones and his band of fanatic followers in jail anytime they spout this anti-Muslim rhetoric intentionally provoking the wrath of these terrorists. First, Terry Jones and his hate clan got innocent U.N. workers killed, now they are indirectly responsible for killing the U.S. Ambassador and other Americans. They are an anti-Christian group that claims falsely to be Christian (not the first imposters to do this) and should be dealt with as criminals of our nation for the hate language they employ to serve their bigoted views.

This man and his band of hate-filled followers are endangering every American life.

The President handled himself with class? What an asinine thing to say or believe.

More distractions from the amateur in chief. let the leftylibdem decentralized propaganda machine ask some adult questions...

like what security precautions or investigations were undertaken after the June 5 bombing outside the consulate in Benghazi?

like what security did the Libyan government provide when 2 bodyguards were injured in the June 6 attack against the British ambassador in Benghazi?

like what level of security alert did BO/Hillary invoke after the attack on the UN Red Cross in Maserati?

like what did the amateur BO do in the 12-18 hours between the attack on the US embassy in Egypt and the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi?

like why weren't there any US Marines stationed at the consulate, especially after previous violence?

like does the POTUS or SecState feel in any way responsible for failing to act responsible to the intelligence and threats and 8-10 hour demonstrations preceding the deadly attack in Libya?

like did any Libyan demonstrators attempt to impede the assassination or did any intelligence surface before the attack, given the obvious planning, coordination, and likely 2 waves of attack by 20-50
jihadists.

like after Libyan security forces "drove off" the attackers, how many attackers were killed, wounded, or captured (preliminary answers are 0, 0, and 0). amazing isn't it? not a single attacker
harmed in a 2-3 hour raid.

but please leftylibdems, don't hold your breath to get any answers to these questions. most of you don't really want to know how our amateur POTUS reacted and those who do, are too busy angrily blaming and
castrating Republicans or non-liberal biased news organizations.

and don't wait on the liberal media to do any fact-finding or investigative reporting. It's not gonna happen with a leftylibdem administration. we all know it. so these leftylibdem hypocrites can stop with the soft, touchy "we really care" statements, and faux strength statements...it's benign negligence at best and stupid ignorance and naïveté of the kind that gets people killed at worse.

But they'll blame somebody other than themselves. Lord knows the leftylibdems can consume vast quantities of Kool-Aid without slating their unquenchable self-righteousness.

Why won't the media cover the real story here, the utter incompetence of the Obama White House, caught flat footed unprepared for a terror attack against or Libyan embassy, killing the ambassadorand 3 others. That IS the story and Mitt is right on to trash the pretender and chief. I'm stunned that this could happen at all, where was our military? Obama promises justice, HA, good luck with that. They'll be lucky to find any of the butchers that carried this out.

It appears that Mitt has jumped the shark.

Hey Steve and all you other apologists for the idiot who made the video that set all this off:

It appears that the maker of the video is one Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, alias Mark Basseley Youssef, alias Youssef M. Basseley, alias Nikola Bacily, alias Malid Ahlawi, resident of California and felon convicted in 2010 of bank fraud.

In fact, it appears that Mr. Nakoula not only owes $794,000 in restitution (making it likely that money he raised for the video was hidden from authorities) but that he may also still be on probation for his crime. He was sentenced in June, 2010 to 21 months in prison plus 6 months probation - a term which may not yet be over.

United States of America vs. Nakoula Basseley Nakoula

Still defending him, Steve?

Be careful who you call your "friends".

"Bottom line: This was news-cycle campaigning by the Romney campaign gone awry. Why didn’t the Romney campaign wait until it had all the facts"

Since when did facts matter to right-wing, GOP Tea Party ideologues getting ever more desperate to take control of the White House, so they can oppress this nation and the rest of the world under their neo-fascist, theological, unregulated, divided, "States Rights" and anti-labor, anti-civil-rights, anti-women's rights, anti-immigrant, anti-minority, anti-environment, Big Business tyranny?

All they have left is misdirection and lies in their campaign messages.

To paraphrase one of the NewsVine bloggers, "If you have to lie and cheat to get elected, then your ideas must suck."