MANSFIELD, OH -- Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney delivered a scattershot attack on President Barack Obama on Monday, emphasizing a series of issues other than the economy.
Romney veered from his laserlike focus on the economy as several polls released in the aftermath of party conventions suggested that the incumbent president emerged with the advantage. But in looking to get his campaign back on track, the GOP nominee decided to discuss military issues and his commitment to keeping God in the public square, making his focus on the economy (an issue on which he enjoys an advantage over Obama) secondary.

Charles Dharapak / AP
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney stands on a table as he addresses an overflow crowd as he campaigns at PR Machine Works in Mansfield, Ohio, Monday, Sept. 10, 2012.
"I will be a president, if elected, that honors that pledge and all the pledges that I make," Romney said at the top of his remarks before a crowd of about 1,200 in swing state Ohio. "That pledge says that we are a nation under God, and if I am president of the United States -- when and if I become president of the United States -- I will not take God out of my heart, I will not take God out of the public square and I will not take it out of the platform of my party."
Romney also served up fresh lines attacking Obama for his handling of last summer's bipartisan deal to raise the debt limit, a deal reached with the approval of both the Republican-controlled house and the president. That deal called for automatic defense cuts to take place in January 2013 if lawmakers couldn't reach some other sort of deal to address the nation's mounting debt. Lawmakers failed to reach a consensus, and the defense cuts loom on the horizon.
In anticipation of the politically difficult defense cuts, Congress earlier this summer passed a law requiring the Obama administration to detail where cuts would fall if they were to reach fruition. But the Obama administration missed the deadline to report back to Congress, giving political fodder to Romney and other Republicans.
TODAY's Savannah Guthrie discusses the presidential election race with NBC's David Gregory, including the crucial battles in swing states. Gregory also talks about his "Meet the Press" interview with Mitt Romney.
"He won't describe all the jobs that are going to be lost -- no, not probably until after the election," Romney said. "It seems we found one secret relating to national security that he's willing to keep."
Here in Ohio, where the unemployment rate is 7.2 percent, nearly a full point better than the national average, a senior Romney campaign adviser insisted voters were still primarily dialed in to economic issues, including debt and the deficit, and that Romney's economic focus could persuade voters who had not made up their minds.
"The number one issue in Ohio is the same as, I think, the number one issue across the country, which is the economy," Romney senior adviser Kevin Madden told reporters after the event here.
To be sure, Romney, as per usual, laid out his five-point plan for the middle class during today's stop, and hit the president for what he claimed was the administration's lack of a job creation plan. But other economic-based elements of the Romney stump speech were absent, including any mention of welfare reform, and the once ubiquitous "You didn't build that" attack.
While campaign advisers downplayed the significance of Romney's time spent on non-economic issues today, at least one supporter told NBC news that kind of talk was exactly what Romney needed to win over undecided voters in the Buckeye State.
The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd takes a look at the recent poll numbers and campaign stumps made by both candidates.
John Goodwin, a retired firefighter who shares a mutual Mormon faith with Romney, said before the event that Romney needed to communicate his personal values better to wavering voters who don't yet feel they know and trust the man personally.
"If he can take those values and turn them into the presidency, our country will come back," Goodwin said.
In turn, the Obama campaign accused Romney of the very same secrecy for which he attacked Obama.
“What we saw today from Mitt Romney is more of the same evasiveness that has defined his campaign. He said he would repeal Obamacare, but didn’t offer a solution for the 89 million Americans who could be denied coverage if they have a pre-existing condition. He said he would cut taxes, but didn’t say how he’d pay for $5 trillion in tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires without raising taxes on the middle class. And he said he would put students first, but left out how his deep cuts to education would hurt schools. Mitt Romney knows it’s political suicide to level with the American people about his ‘secret’ agenda, so he’s evading the truth at every turn," said Lis Smith, a spokeswoman for the president's re-election campaign.


Bishop Willard is all over the place!
Willard is singing to the choir! lol
Today's flavor of the day is; God!
I can't remember ever seeing a more poorly run campaign...
Now he has resurrected God into the spotlight, Guns and Gays are sure to follow. The GOPTP love their GGG mantra.
Speaking of mantras, did Romney acknowledge the troops in Afghanistan in this new campaign approach?
Honest to God (speaking of God), while this man has a proven ability to screw people over to make a fortune, he clearly can't run a campaign. Pray tell (speaking of God), how are we to believe a man that can't run a campaign can suddenly pull out a bag of secrets and run the country effectively? Hint, he cannot. As the Lord is my Savior, if this man is elected to office, we are all doomed to Hell.
...but you will have to give me the job before I tell you what those pledges are...
Only God can save him now
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
I wonder how Republicans would feel about Jesus if Jesus was alive today. After all, Jesus was a flamin' Liberal who said: "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
It's about time that Mr. Romney start pointing out more of the problems that President Obama has. When Americans finally wake up and see just what Barack stands for he will be toast. I know the 15%'s on MSNBC will never wake up but most of the country will.
Have fun back in Chicago ex-President Obama.
Maybe he could get on his hands and knees and beg.
7 years campaigning and he still can't answer the questions.
How will you
bayllie--Romney means he will especially honor his pledge to Grover Norquist and his uber wealthy friends, if he gets the chance--regardless of his pledge to the American people --you know--the rest of us 99%!
@JH your buddy is not qualified to be president get over it.He is in over his head.
Your buddy is going to sink the middle class don't you get it
Can't wait, Lets Debate and put it to an end.
Republicans are only religious on Sunday the rest of the week they're a bunch of flamin drunks and heathens
Only Romney can talk about God while his religion calls the actual bible a worthless piece of garbage
The Mormon Church has bragged the Book of Mormon is “the most correct book on the face of the earth”. Those words were uttered for the first time by none other than Joseph Smith himself on Sunday, October 28, 1841.
“I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.”
romney does not want to talk about guns because he ban assualt rifles as gov. of mass
TO: JH-479998 who wrote:
He can't. President Obama is ahead in almost every State excepting only the redest of the Red States, and although Republicans "claim" that President Obama has "problems" those very "problems" Republicans are referring to are the ones Republicans themselves made-up.
The fact is, Romney is trailing President Obama badly, and Romney's entire campaign is falling apart because if Republicans actually tell the truth and actually try to campaign on their own agenda, there is no way Republicans can win, NONE.
So Romney has been going around the country repeating nearly every word that President Obama says.
Republicans KNOW that as a result of President Obama's policies, the economy will grow by 12,000,000 Jobs in 2013, which Republicans are trying to take credit for even though Republicans did NOT do anything to try to create even ONE job, nor did Republicans do anything to expediate our Economic Recovery, because Republicans believed they could run on "hate" alone.
Obama/Biden 2012
"That pledge says that we are a nation under God, and if I am president of the United States -- when and if I become president of the United States -- I will not take God out of my heart, I will not take God out of the public square and I will not take it out of the platform of my party."
Mr Romney needs to be careful here. Right now his Mormonism isn't much of an issue because people think he will keep it out of his politics, but this says otherwise. Do the republicans really want a Mormon to try to force his beliefs on the public? As a group that believes wholeheartedly on forcing their beliefs on the rest of us, I can't imagine this will go over very well.
correction, only the Mormon god on planet Kolob, can save him now.
Obama/Biden 2012
romney/ryan 1040
nurse-1006475
yes, I forgot about THAT pledge
I hope he does not but then again, GWB got elected at least once
as he did in Mass and that is why even Fox News says that Romney has no chance winning Massachusetts. Now if only all people would listen to people of Mass....
tucker-3366727
just like he pretended to be pro-choice...even gave a sob story about his friend (or a relative, don't remember) being afected by a illegal abortion...he did some Oscar-winning acting during that speech!
"I Bishop Willard, do solemnly swear on this blasphemous excuse of a comicbook called the Mormon bible, that I will uphold & defend the idiocy of the GOP & the CoLDS (not in that order) to do whatever I see fit in the furtherance of the equivocations, deceptions & outright lies I have perpetrated on the American citizens for the past 7 years in an attempt to get America to like me ."
Chris@SLC
Another Liberal that is a religious bigot whodathunk.
did I state something wrong? dose there god not reside on Kolob?
doesn't make me a bigot, if I state there (mormom) beliefs. OK.
quick to pull out the bigot card to, huh.
TERRY ANDERSON,
A BLACK LOS ANGELES TALK RADIO HOST, WENT DOWN A LIST OF THINGS SENATOR OBAMA
SAID THAT AREN'T EXACTLY CORRECT.
1.) Selma March Got Me Born - NOT
EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had
no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
(Google 'Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its
various untruths.) ! !
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT
EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work
with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter- NOT
EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments
Kenya has ever had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY; your cousin Raila Odinga has created
mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya
. It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is
pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law.
Your half-brother, Abongo Oba ma, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your
New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the
following link for verification of that....and for more.
Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia Muslim
law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned
Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian
church where they took shelter... Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the
election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No
one wants to know the truth.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at
5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't
allow her to have been one of 14 wives to1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT
EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came)
means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. He is the first Arab-American
President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian
from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his
father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's
family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African
Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not
African Negro). Go to:
http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-Americ<http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_...
an,_only_6.25%25_African
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT
EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as
a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so
you could run for office.
4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in Islam''
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8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian- NOT
EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in
Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times: Mr. Obama recalled the
opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate
accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama
voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the
prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela
is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced
and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT
EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience – NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to
10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn except how to
study the Koran and watch cartoons?
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs- NOT
EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger
surprise); you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO
experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high
school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to
identify - your classmates said you were just fine
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article
you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you
mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08- NOT EXACTLY, despite saying, live on TV, which you
would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having
experience first.
16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but
not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Miss-voted - NOT EXACTLY,
only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your
misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT
EXACTLY; you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT
EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it,
change it or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass- NOT
EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT
EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and
lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from
which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records- NOT
EXACTLY, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be
released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of
people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but
yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America- NOT
EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal
which lost 99-0, and even YOU
voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois- NOT
EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD
action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year- NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather
handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a
future bid for higher office.
28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the
names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT
EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your
good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel .
30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT
EXACTLY; you said let the delegates decide.
31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT
EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters,
force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate- NOT
EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.
33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics- NOT
EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running
against you.
34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT
EXACTLY, you take loads of it.
35.) I don't Have Lobbyists - NOT
EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad
on his Apple in one afternoon.
37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq- NOT
EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted
to fund it every single time.
38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for
the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.
39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp - NOT EXACTLY, your mother had no brothers and the
Russian army did the liberating.
Does this guy ever tell the truth???
why dont you cry about it. I can really care less just demonstrating the hypocracy of the left, now quick make up some excuse as you weren't making light of the religion.
Step One:
Calculate how many years you plan on living past retirement.
For example:
Retire at Age 65
Life Expectancy: 85
Planning for: 20 years survival.
Step Two
Subtract Five Years from your 20yrs of survival = 15 yrs.
Step Three
Now calculate how much you will need to save for the 15 years to supplement the Romney/Ryan Medicare voucher program ~ $6,500/yr
$6,500 X 15 = $97,500
Allow for Inflation (let’s say $10,000 over the 15 yr period)
$97,500 + $10,000 = $107,500
Step Four
Calculate the last 5 yrs of survival. These are usually the most expensive and often require nursing home or assisted living.
This range is very wide; we will calculate the maximum you will need to just be on the safe side.
Average Nursing Home Care in today’s dollars is $60,000-$80,000 a year. We’ll use $70,000/yr as an example.
5 yrs of survival * $70,000 = $350,000
NOTE: Medicare doesn’t pay for nursing home care. Medicaid may help to pay for some care. But we can’t be sure with Romney/Ryan – most likely this will be defunded as well. So you will need to come up with most of the cost out of pocket.
Step Five
Add up the totals.
$107,500 + $305,000 = $457,500
Step Six
Financing your $457,500 in cost for your care.
Option One:
Reverse mortgages may be an option to fund your costs until you need nursing home care. If you move out of your home, your family will need to sell the property to help fund the last five years of your survival.
The money plus interest paid to you before you move will be taken out of the total proceeds of the sale of your home.
Option Two
Long term health insurance. It’s much cheaper to get this insurance early in life, so when you need assistance it may help to cover a large percentage of your costs. You will need to factor in the cost of the premiums.
This cost could range from $500/mo to $1,100/mo or more! But there are severe restrictions to collect if you need it and you need to be in good health when you apply.
Option Three
Go bankrupt. You cannot be forced to pay for care if you have no assets.
A word of warning though. If you “give away” any of your assets to family, they can attach the bill of your care to that gift. In other words, your family will have to come up with it or be forced to sell whatever has been given to them.
Option Four
Save Early! Get a second job with health benefits, if your health permits and work as late in your life as possible. The closer you can get to your life expectancy, the less overall it will cost.
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Note: As you age, do some estate planning with a qualified attorney to map out your best approach to pay for your care when you get older. The earlier you start the less of a financial hardship to your family.
JC - posting a long lie is still posting a lie!
Obama/Biden 2012
Caesar, hypocrisy? (correct spelling). Hypocrisy thy name is gop'. first President Obama did not go the right church later is accused of being a Muslim.
Hypocrisy in deed. The emperor wares no clothes.
Romney is giving me whip lash. He flip flops within hours and changes the focus of his campaign more than he changes his magic underwear. Why doesn't this bother Republicans?
but you said this first
Does and their would be the correct spellings but i won't bother you with trivialities.
Sure, if you say so but i remember him being critized for the radical christian church he attend for 20 years and the pastor was one Reverend 'God Damn America' Wright.
Does anyone realize that the GOP has passed a bill in the House of Representatives to eliminate the caps on skilled foreign workers coming into this country?
It is now in the Senate. We need to speak up NOW and put a stop to this garbage! These are American jobs!
So much for the GOP's blathering about "illegals" taking American jobs. They just want to make them "legals" when it's cheaper for their corporate masters!
The Senate bill is S. 1983:
So more foreign workers to take American jobs. And many more Chinese by eliminating the offset reduction for foreign worker visas.
Does anyone here not see that this is just a ploy by American corporations to avoid raising wages for American workers? Companies can get these foreign workers at 1/3rd to 2/3rds the rate of qualified Americans.
STOP the GOP from offshoring our jobs here at home!
J.C.-1016889
Get your troll ass off the vine.
This idiot aside, after the line-by-line liar calls coming from the DNC, all Romney has left is the "God" discussion and other false-drama issues? He's toast.
It's Simple
I noticed there was no "side-by-side" comparision with the Obama plan for NO Medicare after 2024.
Other than that, your post did show some originality.
Sure, JC - because I always get the gospel truth fromTERRY ANDERSON,
A BLACK LOS ANGELES TALK RADIO HOST,
Are you sure he's right because he's BLACK?
Or because he's a TALK RADIO HOST, like Rush?
CA ...
Of course he was because it's not a religion, it's a cult and Chris lives in SLC and I live in Utah as well. Pretty sure the both of us know the difference - Catholicism is a religion, Seventh-Day-Adventist, a religion, however Mormonism, based on creepy rituals and secret temple ceremonies, is a CULT. Even the previous GOP candidates had issues with it. Santorum especially!
J.C. posts that on every story. Sometimes more than once. It's annoying.
M.J. - CT
Thank you. Yes, Obama's plan will extend Medicare until 2024. Romney's plan would cause Medicare to fail by 2016.
We do need to address this issue. My way thinking is that getting 12 yrs to come up with other options under Obama's plan is better than 4 yrs with Romney/Ryan's plan.
Either way we MUST come up with a plan.
I hope my posting raised awareness that theses are actual cost you can expect unless a workable plan is enacted.
So it really isn't about the Economy. It is about the religious right taking our personal freedoms and claiming this is a Christian nation. Sorry, but it is NOT! The Founding Fathers (and Mothers!) were trying to escape the tyranny of the Church, but Mitt seems to want to take us right back to a theocracy. A Mormon Theocracy?!
So, no Gay Marriage but Polygamy will be okay?
There was an obvious shift toward ecumenical religiosity at the Republican convention, and they are clearly continuing with that movement. The question is, if Romney is still trying to fire up his base, isn't that a sign of weakness? Doesn't he need to aim for independents, or does the party really think injecting religion into politics is something mainstream America outside of the religious right wants?
Every voter should read "Under the Banner of Heaven" by John Krakauer before the election.
Then decide.
Here are a couple of items I thought my friends here on the vine might enjoy:
and this:
Disillusioned "Obama Supporter" In Romney Ad Is Actually GOP Staffer
Republicans debuted a new ad Thursday in which a frustrated former "Obama supporter" expresses her disappointment with the president. The only problem: The woman in the video is actually an RNC staffer.
The new ad features Republican National Committee Director of Hispanic Outreach Bettina Inclan, who in the ad purports to be an average woman voter who supported Obama in 2008.
Just becuase you don't like it doesn't mean it's a lie. Links and search keywords are there, look them up. Unlike all of you still yapping about when Romney left Bain. Annoyed? Tough, I'm going to keep putting it on ALL these boards hoping it will resonate with some.
I keep waiting for someone to give me a reason to vote for Romney, instead of just Obama bashing.
Wow some really ignorant folks here...
Seeing as I was raised LDS and later left (disagreements of faith) I'm quite a bit more qualified then most if not all of these posters to discuss their tenants. The LDS are Christians, the believe in both the Old and New testament, I know because I had to study them for Sunday school and young mens. Their only major differing belief is that what happened in Israel wasn't the "whole story" and that "God" appeared multiple times. The Book of Mormon is another testament that happened after Jesus "died". Joseph Smith was supposedly given a divine vision about the location of the plates that other testament was written on. And thus the LDS church was a schism from the various protestant churches that had been settling in. They believe in the same "God" just different details on the faith.
Now I don't exactly believe in their tenants, but at least I'm not ignorant of their beliefs. Modern Protestants persecute Mormons for the same reason Islamists persecute Christians, ignorance fear and hatred.
Myself, I'm an "independent centrist" aka "swing voter", so far Obama has my vote. Romney just comes off the same as McCain did, a "party man" who will say / do anything their party tells them. Thus their nothing but a figurehead for their respective political party and right now the GOP is about as bad as you can get.
They say patriotism is the last bastion of the scoundrel. Religion is the last bastion of those kicked out by the scoundrels. Mitt – you have replaced Newt Gingrich as the slimmest politician in the nation. You will say anything, tell any lie, suck up to any dirtball in the nation as long as you think you can gain one vote by doing so.
JC - Cutting and pasting a huge lie doesn't mean you're right. It means you're in kindergarten.
For a minute I thought I would have to go through all of your cut and pasted idiocies to debunk them all, but I don't have to, fortunately. Snopes already did the work for me.
The main gist of it is that Obama never said the things being attributed to him. Which makes you a liar too, JC, for posting these fabricated statements and attributing them to Obama. You're wrong and you are a liar, JC. You are wrong and you are a liar.
I'll say it again. JC - you are wrong and you are a liar.
Real American stop spreading your lies about those two bills. As I posted else where after your lie:
The bill you cited was actually sponsered by a democrat and is still at the committee level it hasn't been passed. Get your facts straight!
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s1983
The HR 3012 was passed in the house 389-15 so what does that tell you? Obviously the Republicans aren't the only ones to blame for that if it is bad. Also that was passed in the house almost a year ago, Nov 2011. Also more Republicans voted against it than did Democrats, 15 and 2 respectively.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2011/h860
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr3012
Romney better stay far away from God talk. The 'god' of the Mormons, according to their own script, was born a man on the planet Kolob. He somehow acquired god powers. Read up on the LDS Church. It will soon seem like the LSD Church.
This cult is so fruity, it makes Scientology look mainstream.
A man with convictions and honor in the white house?
That would sure look different from the current mess we have in there now.
Mitt is going back to his Republican roots........Gays, Guns, God and Abortion. But why not it's always worked in the past..... LMFAO.... What a tool.
RealAmericansFirst - I read Under the Banner of Heaven. While it is a true story about Fundamentalist Mormons, it sure does give an amazing breakdown of Mormon beliefs and a concise history of the religion. The Garden of Eden is in Missouri? Really?
Highly recommend the book!
and there are several good reasons for this:
...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.
Considering that Romney hired most of Bush's economic team, he probably doesn't want to emphasize this!
April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.
DJIA Dec 26, 2008 8515
DJIA Aug 31, 2012 13090
Dec 29, 2008 U.S. corporate earnings probably fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.
May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.
So let me answer the question that Romney asked at the Republican convention:
"Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"
Not only yes, but HELL, YES!
“Why doesn’t the public know Romney better?”
There are going to be continued questions about Willard Romney.
Willard Romney Olympics documents aren’t being released for the public to view. We the People want to know Why.
Willard Romney is not being honest about his time at Bain Capital. We the People want to know Why.
Willard Romney and staff spent nearly $100,000 in state funds to replace computers in his office at the end of his term as governor of Massachusetts in order to keep his records secret. We the People want to know Why.
Willard Romney refuses to release his tax returns We the People want to know. Why.
We the People want to know Why. Because this man Willard Romney is hiding many things, and don't we the people have the right to know what he is hiding.
Most of all you can't believe anything that Willard Romney tells you, because he is DAMN GOOD AT LYING."
@Job1 - Dontcha know we are suppose to overlook all those issues, and just TRUST him?
Yo Romney - tell us more about that Bank of New England failure caused in part by failed investments in Bain. We sure would like to know if you walked away with millions while the FDIC covered deposit losses.
Willard is good at Lyin - just like his partner Lyin Ryan
And of course you people do not care to know why Obama paid his White House Council millions to hide his College records including his transcript and College Applications? And of course you do not care to know why Obama issued an executive order to hide records pertaining to "Fast and Furious" which resulted in the death of an agent? But you need to know why Romney spend 100,000 to replace computers in his office if that is even true??? GMAB!!!!
The only liar that I see is Obama!! You believed him that unemployment will go down to 5% under his Presidency? You believed that if he doesn't turn the economy around during his first term he will be a one term President? Guess what? He has the nerve to ask for 4 more years with unemployment over 8%!
Dee Patriot
most if not all presidential candidates made their school records private. The only reason why we know Bush was a C student is because someone lese leaked them.
Your school record fairy tale is up the with Obama's birth certificate and SS number claim. It's been debunked many times over. Now go read some tabloids.
Job1..
Please tell us three lies Romney is telling
Dee, would you be willing to put Romney's taxes up against Obama's school records? I'm quite sure you (Romney) would come out a loser in that battle.
old fat guy-1144960
easy, pick any Romney speech and cut out 29% of it. The rest is lies.
Absolutely!! Releasing any additional tax returns would reveal what you and I know all along, that he was successful and made a lot of money. Why should he give Dems more ammuntion to villify his success since it is what they do best, villify the evil successful businessmen as being out of touch with the people. Obama's past is one great mystery isn't it? I think it would be interesting to see if he wrote he was a foreign exchange student on his application which has conveniently gone missing. What was in his thesis? Doesn't a thesis tell you a lot about the beliefs of a person? No one cares to know this? This is our President and no one cares to question anything about his radical past associations, records or anything else because you guys want to like him so much!
Another Democrat criminal taken out of office today:
Trenton, New Jersey, mayor arrested on corruption charges
"A Democrat who began his term in July 2010, Mack has been beleaguered by questions about public finance and accusations of cronyism.
Last May, his deputy mayor, Paul Sigmund IV, was arrested and charged with heroin possession and assaulting a police officer, which led to Sigmund's prompt resignation."
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/10/justice/new-jersey-mayor-arrested/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Somehow NBC missed the story.
Dee Patriot
Bernie Madoff also made lots of money...it's not about HOW much he made; it's about how he made it.
Dee Patriot
you and Queen Ann don't know the definition behind the phrase "giving someone ammunition." Look it up.
I will give you a hint: if there is nothing to find, there is no ammunition!
Don't be naieve, Obama and Democrats will twist anything to their advantange to make Romney look bad even if there is nothing new that they have not seen before!! And don't insult my intelligence and tell me they would not do it. This is what they do!!
Wow!! Comparing Romney to Madoff is reaching!!! Romney created hundreds of thousands of jobs for people turning failing businesses around with an 85% success rate (but ofcourse you will highlight on the the few that failed because it suits your purpose, won't you?), Madoff stole from people. You dare to compare the two? This is such nonsense!!!!
bay lie...
job1
If 71% of a speech is a lie it should not be difficult to list three specific lies.
On the other you are liberal democrats and generally trashing people is easier than backing up your trash
Dee Patriot - Please provide verifiable sources for your claims that:
1) "Obama paid his White House Council millions to hide his College records including his transcript and College Applications?" (Note - college records contain private and personal information and are sealed by the colleges AND it's been proven that Mr. Root is a liar.)
2) "Romney created hundreds of thousands of jobs for people" (Note - even Bain states they were not in the business of creating jobs and as such never tracked them. And when you make that claim you have to net out the jobs that were lost from the businesses that were closed or jobs that were shipped overseas.)
We ALL look forward to you proving your statements . . .
TO: Dee Patriot who wrote:
That is SUCH a weak subject to keep harping on. He graduated from college, and he passed the Bar. I seriously doubt if Harvard Law School would hire President Obama as a Constitutional Law Professor if his grades weren't up to parr.
Mitt Robme hiding his financial records is much more important. Romney said we should judge him on his values, but we don't know much about his values other than he doesn't mind one bit to take employees' pension plans and put their money in his pocket and leave them with no job, no pension plan, and no retirement money because Robme took all their money and kept it for himself, and then made even more money shipping their jobs overseas!
Obama/Biden 2012
Dee, if your man is so good, why does he not stand a chance in Mass. Those people in Mass. saw the real side of the swindler. I cant believe he has people like you fooled. Duh!
TO: Dee Patriot who wrote:
That's a lie and you know it!
Mitt Robme came in 47th out of 50 in job creation while he was Governor of Massachusetts, and we ALL know that for a fact.
Mitt Robme created approximately 100,000 jobs in his entire lifetime.
(Google it!)
President Obama has created over 4 MILLION JOBS in just 3 years.
Obama/Biden 2012
You know when a Willard is lying, because his lips are moving.
Dee - you're a damned liar - and stupid to boot! EVERYONE'S college transcripts are sealed - even mine! (My guess is you never finished high school). Repeating the radical right lies just makes you look even more foolish!
Not only did Romney not create "hundreds of thousands of jobs" (what an ignorant post!) he didn't even create thousands of good paying jobs.
Obama/Biden 2012
Job1 Willard Romney and staff spent nearly $100,000 in state funds to replace computers in his office at the end of his term as governor of Massachusetts in order to keep his records secret. We the People want to know Why.
If I had touched my files at retirement I Would not have a pension.
Obama/Biden 2012
d fat guy-1144960
as the crickets chirp, no Job1 and no Bay lie.
Who is the ignorant person? A person like you who can not even have a civil debate without name calling. BTW, not only I finished High School, I have a Masters so stop with the intimidation, it only makes you look more ignorant!!
First of all, Obama is a public official, the President of the U.S. Nothing is private, even College records. We know Bush's grades, don't we??
Secondly: facts about Romney's job creation:
Staples, 42,000 jobs (now 89,000 employees)
Sports Authority, 14,000 jobs
Garter. 3,000 jobs
Steel Dynamics, 500
Wesley Jessen Vission, 2,600
OBAMA JOB CREATION IN PRIVATE SECTOR - ZERO!!!!!
During Romney's leadership as Governor of Massachussets, unemployment rate went from 5.6% to 4.9% and the stat had a positive record of 50,000 new jobs created!!
OBAMA'S LEADERSHIP, unemployment up to over 8% unemployment!
[Another Democrat criminal taken out of office today...Somehow NBC missed the story.]
Uhm, no...they didn't...you just failed to look hard enough (or at all):
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48974518
And if he's guilty, good riddance...if he was a Republican, he would be glorified and put on a pedestal.
Thank you. Seeking is called out on that crap daily. dont worry it is only a bot. and seeking will now continue to drive home the 'you're a liar' line.
not hardly Mickey but if it makes you feel better then go for it.
Poor "Seizer"...still without a clue I see...
So, just how many times have you lost your empty headed arguments today.
1?
5?
10?
You know, lying is a sin, Pizza Boy.
then stop doing it. but what is empty headed? you mean this was cholked full of insightful info
get back to me when your head isnt fully up your azz. what a pity you dont understand. See tomorrow Mickey, im sure it will be as charming as always.
Job 1 ...
Because his entire life he has been taught to stay "behind the veil" and that us "gentiles" don't need to know anything until we are one of the same faith. Secretiveness and lies are what Mormons do best.
Dee --
"not only I finished High School..."
Why do I not believe you? Where to start, oh where to start?
Want some Romney lies?:
Here are just a few - you can find plenty more if you look:
Three lies that Romney told:
These are all from Politifact "Pants on Fire". If you want more examples, there are plenty there. I didn't even get into the ones that are false or moslty false.
And Romney's biggest whopper:
"Corporations are people, my friend."
Seriously old fat guy, everyone in politics lies to get what they want. If you believe your guy is the exception, you aren't living in reality. Especially Mitt. How can he possibly change his position so often and not be lying at least some of the time. Either he has no real opinion of his own or he is lying half the time. For instance, for months he has been going on about repealing Obamacare, now he says he would keep some of it. Which is the truth?
[...you mean this was cholked full...]
Chock full...the term is "chock full"...
[...get back to me when your head isnt fully up your azz. what a pity you dont understand...]
Doublespeak for:
I got my ass handed to me again...or owned...or tweaked...whatever you prefer...
Right Little Seizure?
Yeah, I'm right...
LA 9999...
1. Not sure this is not in the plan so hard to call it a lie.
2. The defunding planned for defense will make this true statement a understatement
3. Ending Medicare as we know it is a fact no matter who becomes POTUS
I do not like calling anyone a liar. Because we disagree does not make me a liar or you either, it simply means we disagree. Show me the point we disagree on and discuss it but when you call anyone a liar you lost.
The person claiming Obama created 4 million jobs is sadly mistaken but I would never call them a liar.
At no point did I call you a liar. You asked for 3 examples of lies that Romney told and I gave them to you. I pretty much said you are delusional because you refuse to admit that Romney lies, but I never said you are a liar. Like I said, all politicians lie to get what they want. Unfortunately if they were to state the truth they wouldn't win a nomination let alone an election. And all of those statements were judged to be lies on Politifact and I would believe them before I believe anything I hear on Fox. But I guess they are biased also. When everyone except Fox and Rush tell you something is a lie, it probably is.
Dee -
First, your assumption that a person loses all civil liberties, to include the right to privacy, when they are elected President is bogus. And if you remember, President Bush's school records were leaked. Also, you never provided a source for your statement that "Obama spent millions hiding his records" nor did you even try to validate that statement you made.
Secondly, while the total of the jobs as you listed do top 100,000 you forgot to net out the jobs that were destroyed via outsourcing and bankrupting companies nor did you net out the jobs that were already there and remained there after Bain came along, you added them into your numbers. Do the total of jobs is also NOT "hundreds of thousands" (note the multiple number you used) and you still provided no source.
Lastly, if Gov. Romney is given credit for job creation in Mass., it would be hypocritical to NOT give President Obama credit for jobs created while he is President. That makes the job creation score over 4 million for President Obama and less than 200,000 for Gov. Romney.
Your posts are inaccurate.
Dee Patriot
and yet you believe in the "ammunition" propaganda. And yet you don't question the fact that the very person who DEMANDED tax returns from Kennedy some 20 years ago is the same person who has not done it himself in some 20 years.
Don't you think that if Romney's taxes were hiding nothing, they would have been released just to say FU to the Democrats??? You are naive.
And the only thing that Romney loves more than Romney is money.
show me any law that states nothing is private. And we know Bush's records because someone leaked them - not because Bush was willing to release them.
Master Dee Patriot, Obama is 2:0 - he's released his taxes and after being harassed by the birthers, he released his long form so before you demand yet ANOTHER thing from Obama, why don't play fair and let Romney catch up with his returns!
Bain initial investment: $5 million
Bain profits: $100 million
Jobs lost: 1,500
Bain took over a Marion, Indiana, paper plant andlaid off one-fifth of its workers, cut wages, sharply reduced health benefits and eliminated the company retirement plan.
By 1999, Ampad’s debt reached nearly $400 million, up from $11 million in 1993. Ampad couldn’t pay its debts that Bain created, and plunged into bankruptcy. Workers lost jobs and stockholders were left with worthless shares. Bain Capital, however, made money—and lots and lots of money.
there are other stories like Ampad but Romney will not talk about them.
And you keep talking about Bain like its mission statement included creating jobs. Please show me mister Master's, where in the Bain's mission statement does it state that the company's goal was jobs? Bain/Romney never cared about whether jobs were cut or created; that was just a by-product and the number one goal was to maximize the return on investment .
in 2008, we lost 2.6 million jobs.
In Jan-March of 2009, we lost another 2 million jobs.
We have seen an increase in jobs in 30 months under Obama.
Tell me, how did Romney do in teeny weeny Masachusetts. As a resident of Mass I will tell you one thing, there is a reason why we don't like Romney. He was used Mass for his political gain and he made this state 47th out of 50 in job creation while he increased our fees from renewing a license to making a blind person pay for a certificate that states she/he is blind. He cut education budgets while he gave tax cuts to the rich.
Massachusetts don't want Romney - even Fox News knows and say it.
Why is it that Romney never talks about his time as governor of MA? He seldom talks about his time at Bain other than in glittering generalities, never any specifics? Why won't he release his taxes? And -- why is it that none of your Romney supporters are asking for his college records?
I find it hard to count most of the jobs at Staples and Dominoes. They are taken mainly by high school kids because the pay is so low. A family of 4 trying to survive on one of these jobs is living below the poverty level.
To DEE -
The DEMS with FACTS is lighting your AZZ UP on this post.
I personally think you should quit while you are behind, based on your posts not producing ONE FACT to back them up, which was based on ROMLIES.
President Obama 2012
The GOP stunt of the day is to claim that Mitt Romney doesn't lie because he doesn't say anything. Hiding out at FOX News and refusing to debate will round out his campaign as the brainwashed boomers run to the polls to vote for him in November. GOPs been doing it for 30 years so why stop now?
Well, I would like to. Particularly, I'd like to know about his finances. How about releasing more of his tax forms? You know, like his father did when he was gearing up to a presidential run?
*DING-DING-DING*
Time for Round 3 of the religion debate!
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...GO!
4 more for 44!
Obama 2012/Romney 1040
I'll bet ya $10 thousand bucks my God can beat up your God.
What makes it even more entertaining is I swear just 2 days ago I heard the Romney campaign was going to go after the economy and keep the talk away from other issues. Romney can't even stay focused for a few days.
Leaked GOP SuperPAC Memo Proposes Attack On Pres. Obama's Character
A memo from a GOP-affiliated political consulting group commissioned by a major donor proposed a $10 million general election campaign strategy targeting President Obama's character and revisiting his association with the controversial Rev. Jeremiah Wright, according to the New York Times.
The newspaper obtained the detailed, 54-page proposal from someone "alarmed by its tone" and published selected excerpts in today's print edition, with the full memo posted online. Fred Davis of Strategic Perception, Inc. was in charge of the proposal, which was presented to the family of Joe Ricketts, the founder and former CEO of TD Ameritrade, Inc. Ricketts' son, Tom, is chairman of the Chicago Cubs.
Obama is bizarrely referred to as a "metrosexual black Abe Lincoln" in the memo, which aside from a flood of television commercials, advocates further measures like full-page newspaper advertisements and aerial banners highlighting some comments made by the president's estranged preacher.
The strategists grappled with the quandary of running against Mr. Obama that other Republicans have cited this year: “How to inflame their questions on his character and competency, while allowing themselves to still somewhat ‘like’ the man becomes the challenge.”
The document calls for "including an extremely literate, conservative African American in our group" and recommends paying $25,000 to Larry Elder, "a prominent ABC talk radio host in California" to fill that role. "We have discussed our approach with him in confidence and he immediately understood and 'got it'. Larry was considered a potential U.S. Senate candidate in California during the last election cycle."
Have you ever seen a campaign this unfocused, this undisciplined, this out of touch, this stupid while trying to make people any people hate a black man that happens to be President? Short answer: NO
President Obama 2012
This obvious tactical error will be corrected within the news cycle, but the strategic underpinnings are evidence of a campaign in conflict if not crisis.
Jimmy Carville is STILL correct...
Romney: "
Romney: I want Rep. Steve King 'as my partner in Washington'
speaking on the campus of Northwestern College in Iowa.
You want Congressman Steve King as your partner? We're talking about Iowa Congressman Steve King? The guy who is against laws against dogfighting, boasts that his laws allow more animal cruelty, blasts "multiculturalism" as "victims groups," gives long sermons on how the demon government is oppressing his God-given right to slightly less efficient lightbulbs, says that some Americans just don't need health care, flirts with birtherism,hangs out with racists, pines for the time when only male property owners could vote, says that high American unemployment is caused by a "nation of slackers," and just recently was opining to a reporter that he just plain never "heard of" anyone getting pregnant from incest or statutory rape? Steve King the sociopath?
That Steve King?
newsone.com/2031965/steve-king-rape-incest/
www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/07/1129050/-Romney-I-want-Rep-Steve-King-as-my-partner-in-Washington
www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/rep-steve-king-minority-students-feel-sorry-themselves
Willard is such a disgrace...
Sounds like Stephen King has some new terrifying material for a new novel. If only Steven King were a work of fiction.
Happy to be called a former Republican
Certainly better than being called a Democrat.
uaw-779887
So you're happy to no longer possess any self respect
self respect? -- How can anyone who believes the crap from Rove, Romney and Ryan have any self respect???
TO: pjam09 who wrote:
Ignorance is bliss, eh pj.
Obama/Biden 2012
No Caesar, he obviously got tired of having ZERO integrity.
lol JOHN,
smackdown of the thread!
TO: pjam09 who wrote:
Ignorance is STILL bliss in AMERICA, eh pj.
"Non-economic issues . . . dominate?"
Well, of course. Look at all of those manufacturing jobs that Ohio had but which super-rich basturds like Romney had, from his corporate standpoint, outsourced to other countries to make higher profits on their (the super-rich) stock investments. The people of Ohio, unfortunately, really lost big due to crums like Romney.
Another Democrat criminal taken out of office today:
Trenton, New Jersey, mayor arrested on corruption charges
"A Democrat who began his term in July 2010, Mack has been beleaguered by questions about public finance and accusations of cronyism.
Last May, his deputy mayor, Paul Sigmund IV, was arrested and charged with heroin possession and assaulting a police officer, which led to Sigmund's prompt resignation."
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/10/justice/new-jersey-mayor-arrested/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Somehow NBC missed the story.
pjam is following the Karl Rove playbook for right-wingers:
Repeat it over and over and finally some of them will believe you.
That's on MSNBC, pjam.
The point it that it doesn't matter a rats a$$ to the economic problems facing this country.
Will you GNoP'ers PLEASE pay attention long enough to get SOMETHING done?
pj:
you mean this story:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/10/13778785-fbi-arrests-trenton-nj-mayor-others-in-corruption-probe?lite#
TO pjam09 who wrote:
| "Another Democrat criminal taken out of office today"
If that disgusting mayor of Trent NJ is linked to President Obama as you are trying to assume.
Than Steve Racist, Bigot, KKK, King is linked to Mittwitt based on his own statement. - "I need Steve King as my partner"
You wack Job mother hubbers are the craiziest MF I know in Town.
President Obama 2012
Let's get serious. Romney is going to talk about anything and everything - with no specifics at all - from now to the election. He thinks the shotgun approach is best - don't stay with any topic long enough for the opposition to hone in on you because if they do - he's toast!
Obama/Biden 2012
Hey Sanitation - what happen to Bain Capital and how bad Romney is with outsourcing jobs.
Oh I forgot, that GM is now fallen to third place and that is even including that GM is shipping our jobs to China. Let's not forget General Electric which does not pay its fair share of taxes.
Again I say to you, President Obama had 4 years and failed. Its time to give someone else the Presidency.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2012/09/02/unions-and-university-endowments-have-invested-billions-bain-press-virtu#ixzz25iOGkRUO
SeekingSanity
as someone had mentioned before me, Romney's plan is: "stop me if you hear something YOU like"...that sums it up.
Concern Citizen-856329
you need to find out from Romney because Romney, for some reason, refuses to talk about Bain...or Mass...or the Olympics.
I have three words for that; Duh ream on!!
cc are you just making things up? or are you....i'll bite my tongue.
WTF are you talking about??
reuters.com/article/2012/09/04/usa-autosales-idUSL4E8K43VO20120904
kind of looks like there the king of the hill from this report.
No, again your wrong. GM as well as other car makers are EXPANDING INTO CHINA!!! Honda, Toyota, Buick. and even Hyundai has MOVE into china.
factcheck.org/2012/06/is-gm-becoming-china-motors/
CC your clueless, lair or simply misinformed you decide. I believe you hear the lies on you TV & radio and simply spew them here for the rest of us to laugh at your idiocy.
Good day madam.
One more thing Reuters is NOT A LIBERAL NEWS OUTLET, before you try to pull that weak defence.
To: Concern Citizen-856329
You psychopath you obviously forgot bush was in office for 8 years with a surplus and bush policies and tax cuts put us in the deepest recession since the great depression. By the way that great depression took the United States 15 years to dig out of. How long will it take for the US to dig out of this great recession? OH OH OH I know....... The First day President Obama is in office.
That same day you scum bags GNOP had a meeting to do absolutely SH!T for the country. Because it would make President Obama look good.
Word of Advise: If you go around blaming the wolf, eventually the town will look at you.
That is what's happening today.
President Obama 2012
Of course he is - because he isn't doing anything but running against Obama. He isn't running for anything. And every time anybody asks, all we get is vague nothings... "I'll have to work that out with Congress" (yeah, right, that's worked so well in the last 4 years!) "We will close tax loopholes" (which tax loopholes? [crickets chirping]) "We will lower taxes AND reduce government deficit" (How - since so much of our deficits right now are due to reduced government revenue - can you further reduce government revenue and still reduce deficits? [crickets chirping])
Gotta ask yourself why didn't Mitt run for reelection as governor in MA?
Gotta ask yourself how did John Kerry(perhaps not the warmest man that ever lived) barely feel Mitt under his wheels in their Senatorial race?
Gotta ask yourself why was Mitt nothing but redlights and exhaust shortly thereafter?
Gotta ask your self will he join his money in the Caymans after the election?
Gotta ask yourself why was Sarah Palin a better VP choice for McCain?
Gotta ask yourself what ammunition for the democrates is in Willards tax returns?
thomas tetreault
Two reasons:
1. Romney had a ver low approval rating as gov. of Mass (he has no chance to carry Mass on Nov. 6)
2. He never had any interest in the position really; he only used Massachusetts to make connections for his 2008 presidential bid which he lost to McCain and later to Palin for VP.
Telling the nation if you produced 10 years of tax returns that would give the Dems more ammunition. You just told us there is bullets - ammunition behind the cabinet. You just made me want to go get the ammunition behind the cabinet.
It's like saying " I have no money under the mattress"
I'm going straight to the bedroom to look under the mattress.
President Obama 2012
I was born and raised in Harlem, New York City.
I want to give my condolence to the people who died in the 9/11 attacks and to their families who still carry the pain.
With that out the way.
Mittwitt Robme "YOU LYIN PIECE OF SH!T"
Pesident Obama 2012
I was watching CNN and Fox over the weekend to get a feel for fairness of each network on the election. There is no doubt Fox is favoring Romney and CNN is putting a favorable light on Obama. Saying either channel is fair and balance is drinking the Kool-Aid. Both channels are trying to hold on to their core audience. Propaganda machines.
Fox News called Ryan a liar
Deceiving
On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/?fb_action_ids=10151189044597182&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=timeline_og&action_object_map=%7B%2210151189044597182%22%3A430876850304107%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210151189044597182%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=[]#ixzz266e0ZjMJ
One thing is certain with Mr. Romney, If you don't like his position on a issue, just wait and it's bound to change. At the RNC he wanted to repeal Obamacare, but on Sunday's "Meet the Press" he said, he wants to keep aspects of healthcare reform known as ACA, or as it's known in the south "Obamacare".
I guess Clint Eastwood was wrong, he can do that to himself?
Within Hours, Mitt Romney Takes Back Everything He Said About Preexisting Conditions
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/09/within-hours-mitt-romney-takes-back-everything-he-said-about-preexisting-conditio
That's funny Dave...
What CPaul - I did not hear that. Geeze - so now it goes like this. He was for it before he was against, then he was for it before he was against it again. Willard sounds like a broken record. Flip flop, flip flop
Everyone knows the plan...
GOP wants to repeal ACA in its entirety and then put back everything piece by piece (except the mandate...which was actually a Republican idea in the first place) and then take credit for the whole thing.
Yeah. Mitt flip flops like a fish out of water. Symptomatic of the dying Republican party.
Hoping down the bunny trail, Flipping and Flopping Easter is on its wayyyy.
Revomit Party = Old white male slave owners
DEMS = A reflection of the current nations makeup. A little bit of everyone.
You know Romney is getting desperate. He's dropping in the polls. He has no real answers to the economy so now he's playing the "I'll strengthen the military" card and to God card. Before long he's going to the last republican fallback plan --- calling for a constitutional amendments banning flag burning and gay marriage and trying to get prayer in schools.
BEFORE, I believe romneys comments, I've got one thing to say to him!
SHOW ME YOUR TAXES!
"Why doesn't anybody really know Romney?"
Well, I would like to - particularly about his finances. Why won't he release the tax forms?
There you go again!! Mitt boldface lies about our president who showed leadership by making sure God was included in the party platform. In Tampa Mitt showed no such leadership when it came to having language that stated abortion could be offered in cases of rape even though that is his belief and promise to the american people.
Irish, The only reason Obama made sure God was included in the party platform was because of all the negative controversy from Democratic moderates who were furious with this decision. Don't believe for a minute that he would have taken it out if there was no controversy!
To Dee Patriot the paid SHILL
Wrong the party took it out. President Obama showed leader ship and put it back in.
Fact do matter DEE your 5 seconds are up, I am the President of the United States.
The Republican TeaBilly Conservatives are all about the Constitution, unless it doesn’t fit their Evil Agenda. They also seem to think da Constitution and da 10 Commandment are from da same Document.
Can you say Self Righteous Hypocrite?
You Bet Cha…Fer Sure.
"Laser-like focus on the economy"? Has there been a Romney campaign in a parallel universe that I missed? A laser-like focus would entail something close to a realistic (i.e. the numbers add up) economic plan that make sense to the sane people of the country. Romney's only laser-like focus is to get his empty-suited self elected President, because, after all, it's his turn.
Don’t worry Folks, the Republicans Tea Billy Conservatives are going to Focus on the Economy and Job Issues, just as soon as they solve those really Important Social Issues like Gay Marriage, Babies, and Gawd . You Bet Cha….Fer Sure
TeaBillyism = Selling your Soul to da Republicans.
Republicanism = Selling your Soul to da Devil.
You BetCha….Fer Sure.
Yup. sounds about right.
Attention all Republican TeaBilly Conservatives:
Michelle “ Bat Crazy ” Bachmann and Ricky “ Religious Extremist” Santorum were the last Two TeaBilly Republican Conservatives pulled by their Ankles to da Curb while Screaming , “Babies and Gawd….Babies and Gawd”.
And now ya have another Whack Job ……Todd Akin fighting all da way.
The Two Main Issues are: Economy and Jobs…..Economy and Jobs.
Republican TeaBilly Conservatives Love to Force their Blind Faith and Beliefs into everybody’s Personal Lives and bedrooms!
Hope ya Learned your Lesson. Buh Bye.
You BetCha…..Fer Sure.
Sincerely,
Sarah P.
Republican TeaBilly Conservatives Agenda and Thought Process:
Guns, Babies and Gawd, Guns, Babies and Gawd, Guns, Babies and Gawd, Guns, Babies and Gawd, Guns, Babies and Gawd, etc.
If they would spend Half the Time and Energy on The Economy and Jobs, The Economy and Jobs. this Country would really begin to Move Forward.
Some Men you just can't Reach..........and they wonder why their Ratings are falling to record Lows.
You BetCha.......Fer Sure.
Feisty really is George Soros!
Can anyone spell
FLAILING ABOUT AIMLESSLY
Romney can't run a dog walk in the public eye because he can't bully people into submission.
Romney has never, ever had to explain himself - he has always just moved on - well the internet ended that forever.
If I was a republican I'd be trying to figure out how to get him and ryan off the ticket.
This could be worse than McCain/Palin!
It is worse than McCain and Palin - it's Mitt the Twit and Lyin Ryan.
MITH MATH & LYIN RYAN
in the pan they are frying
the truth is plain to see
all you have to do is trust me
I am Bishop Romney !
Don't gloat too soon. Now is the time to push very, very hard. The stakes are too high. If Romney/Ryan won, with a Republican House and a strong Senate presence, a lot of damage could be done very quickly, when we are still trying to recover from Bush, Jr.
This just in...........Da Republican TeaBilly Conservative Whack jobs have just added "Drew Peterson" to their "War on Women".....Committee.
They had to wait for the Blood Test's to make sure that he did have "Todd Akins Disease".
You BetCha.....Fer Sure.
So..........after da Clinton Speech............Ryan looked at Romney and said............"Do ya think handing out Walmart Applications for Job Creation is a Good Idea"?...................and them Romney said..........."I think we ought to put on Our Life Jackets..............this Ship is gonna go down Fast"..................LOL
You BetCha....Fer Sure.
Sarah P.
Romney has two awful choices:
Choice 1: Admit he believes in universal healthcare (which he helped develop), admit his love of money at any cost to others, own up to a socio-pathology that has been frightening at times, and concede that he has a lifetime of tax evasion.
Choice 2: Deny his own history, hide every business and political activity rather than shed light on it, and suggest that he has succeeded at . . . well . . . nothing of interest to anyone else.
Good luck selling this odd set of experiences to an intelligent electorate.
Well Romney already loves Obamacare
1. It's a tax! There wasn't much for Republicans to love in the Supreme Court's ruling that Obamacare is constitutional, except that they concluded the individual mandate is, for constitutional purposes (but not for others), a tax. The soundbites write themselves. Republicans can now brand Obama as raising taxes on the middle class, or, if they're feeling particularly blustery, "the biggest tax increase in the history of the world." But ABC News' Michael Falcone pulls up video from a January 2008 Republican presidential primary debate in which Romney seems to think such a tax is pretty great. When the debate moderator asks, "Governor … you imposed tax penalties in Massachusetts?" Romney defends the mandate by framing it terms of personal responsibility. "Yes, we said, look, if people can afford to buy it, either buy the insurance or pay your own way," he said. "Don’t be free-riders."
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2. It's "ultimate conservatism." In 2007, Romney said that when the uninsured show up in emergency rooms and get free health care, that's a "form of socialism." By contrast, his health care law was conservative and inspired by the Heritage Foundation, something that is true and that the Heritage Foundation would probably like people to forget.
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Romney said a version of this multiple times. In January 2008, he told Fox News Sunday, "I think it's the ultimate conservative plan." Last year, Romney also said his law was based on "fundamentally a conservative principle."
3. It's a good national model. Romney boasted that Congress and the President could learn a lot about health care reform from his Massachusetts plan during an interview with CNN in 2009, "I think there are a number of features in the Massachusetts plan that could inform Washington on ways to improve health care for all Americans," he said "The fact that we were able to get people insured without a government option is a model I think they can learn from." Start at 1:05 and note the lack of concern about constitutional issues.
4. It's humane. When Romney left office in 2007, his staff erased his office's emails from a server computer in an attempt to wipe them from the public record. But earlier this month, The Wall Street Journal found a few survivors, including Romney's own early drafts of his April 2006 Journal op-ed about the passage of Romneycare. Romney used language that would surely irritate many conservatives, and it was toned down when eventually published. Nevertheless, Romney's original thoughts are preserved forever:
The problem is that too much of the electorate is not very literate, and this section of the electorate is very, very afraid. Afraid of the economic uncertainties and afraid of all the social change going on in the country. Fox news, Rush and the wealthy capitalize on this fear, making the message very simple and demonizing Obama as the very symbol of all the change and uncertainty. Fear is a great motivator.
Over the long term, conservatives can not win this thing. The demographics will continue to change no matter what conservatives do, the internet has made communications too easy and those with a new-found voice will not be shut up without a major fight. However, there are still two months to go, Romney and his SuperPacs have a lot of money, they will not go down easy.
People who believe America is more than just being able to make more money than your neighbor have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity here. It will only get better in the coming years. This is our chance to show that Big Money, Ads and sound bites don't win every time. Sometimes the people really will be heard, but only if we care enough to push very hard and make it happen.
iN THE AIR FORCE, there is a saying, CRASH AND BURN, The flipper, is going down, and if don't pull the lever, he too will crash and burn.
SHOW YOUR TAXES! or, Shet or get off the pot!