Romney camp: 'Don't get too worked up about the latest polling'

 

 

Responding to the early polling showing President Obama with a bounce -- and lead -- after the two conventions, Romney pollster Neil Newhouse argues in a memo to reporters that the presidential contest "has not changed significantly."

"Don't get too worked up about the latest polling," Newhouse writes in the memo. "While some voters will feel a bit of a sugar-high from the conventions, the basic structure of the race has not changed significantly. The reality of the Obama economy will reassert itself as the ultimate downfall of the Obama presidency, and Mitt Romney will win this race."

Related: First Thoughts: After Tampa and Charlotte

Newhouse adds, "The key numbers in this election are the 43 straight months of 8% or higher unemployment, the 23 million Americans struggling to find work, and the 47 million Americans who are on food stamps."

However, as we wrote in First Thoughts this morning, Obama went into the conventions with the lead, and emerged from those conventions with the lead.

And as Politico reported over the weekend, “The Romney campaign … said the post-convention bounce they hoped for fell well short of expectations and privately lament that state-by-state polling numbers — most glaringly in Ohio — are working in the president’s favor.”

“Their map has many more routes to victory,” a top GOP official admitted to Politico.

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Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Drip... drip... drip...

They were sure singing a different tune this weekend!

Willard came out of his convention loosing a point!

This country is not goingt to elect someone who wants us to look at his principals as to how he would govern!

The man has NONE!

President Barack Obama heads out of the national political conventions with a much clearer path to winning, top advisers to Mitt Romney privately concede.

The Romney campaign, while pleasantly surprised by Obama's lackluster prime-time performance, said the post-convention bounce they hoped for fell well short of expectations and privately lament that state-by-state polling numbers — most glaringly in Ohio — are working in the president's favor.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80949.html#ixzz264mQBVmT

Bring on the debates and turn off the lights! lol

  • 164 votes
#1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:10 AM EDT
Comment author avatarTalk to the HandExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Better change your Depends. You're leaking.

  • 43 votes
#1.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:12 AM EDT
Comment author avatarRon IndianaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I won't get too worked up about the poll numbers. I'll keep working for President Obama as our Medicare and Medicaid depend on it. Americans are not interested in vouchercare.

Additionally I have no intention of paying more taxes so Romney can get a tax break.

  • 201 votes
#1.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:18 AM EDT

"Don't get too worked up about the latest polling," Newhbouse writes in the memo.

Yeah right!

In typical GNOP fashion he refuses to let the facts get in the way and wants everyone else to drink more of their kool-aid.

Obama is increasing his lead and the numbers will grow even larger after the debates. Robotney is toast!

  • 163 votes
#1.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:18 AM EDT

All Romney has to do is keep flipping flopping like this and he's toast:

"UPDATE: 8:45 p.m. -- A Romney aide told the National Review that he does not support the Affordable Care Act's ban on discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions, despite suggesting on "Meet the Press" that he supported that part of the law.

Instead, the aide added, there has been no change in the Republican nominee's position. "[I]n a competitive environment, the marketplace will make available plans that include coverage for what there is demand for," the aide said. "He was not proposing a federal mandate to require insurance plans to offer those particular features.""

He was for, then against, then back to for and now not so much!!!

  • 146 votes
#1.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:22 AM EDT

On Meet the Press Romney said,

"he would balance the budget by the end of his second term."

Romney says he needs 8 to 10 years to fix the problem,

but he wants us to vote out President Obama because, he hasn't done

it in 4 years. LOL

Obama 2012

  • 205 votes
#1.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:24 AM EDT

Okay, let's not talk about polls. Let's just mention reasons WHY the American people are volunteering for and donating to our Democratic president. Let's see WHY people are showing up in the thousands to see our president. WHY we as Americans are standing tall next to him.

h/t The Obama Diary

One perspective:

The events from Charlotte this past week have reawakened the values that have begun to lay dormant within me, and I'm guessing many other Americans recently. From public displays of dishonesty, disrespect, insults, shootings, voter suppression, public union busting, racial slurs, and attacks on women's health rights, I've become accustomed to a hateful America in 2012.

But the speakers and, more importantly, the crowd in Charlotte this week have restored my faith in Americans. And what is the United States but a community of Americans?

From Tammy Duckworth's heart wrenching account of a journey thanking "God for the food stamps, public education and Pell grants that helped me finish high school and college," and her riveting account of November 12th, 2004, to President Obama's acceptance speech reminding us that "We don't turn our back. We leave no one behind. We pull each other up," my enthusiasm for America has been reinvigorated.

We don't turn back. We leave no one behind. We pull each other up.

John Kerry reminded us all of which candidate actually has a track record in foreign policy, and a successful one at that.

Bill Clinton has always been a personal favorite of mine. A masterful speaker and no less skilled in theater, on several occasions Wednesday evening during his speech, would caution, saying, "Listen to me now" or hit us with seemingly extemporaneously sound bytes like "Obama: 250,000. Romney: zero," when it comes to auto industry jobs saved by President Obama's auto industry assistance. He reminded us that producing a healthy economy is the result of "arithmetic."

We listened to a middle class guy, Joe Biden, rising from personal and family struggles in Scranton, and the personal tragedies of a newly elected member of Congress to become Vice President of the United States.

Some folks have said that Clinton's speech has even outdone President Obama's. Bill has always been a great orator, but the real finale was indeed the President's speech.

But all in all, the progress we have made in the last 3 ½ years is worth his reelection. From the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act to the final version of the Affordable Care Act to the executive order ending the federal government's deportation of undocumented immigrants under the age of 31 to 4 million new private industry jobs, it's clear that Barack Obama's reelection will continue to move us forward.

Thursday night the President continued the American theme that echoed throughout the week in Charlotte: that as Americans, our citizenship means that we take care of our own. He reminded us that, unlike the previous week's Randians, we're all part of something larger. Life in America is not simply another chapter in the annals of Charles Darwin.

President Obama led us through a remarkable number of reasons we are better off than we were in the first half of 2009 when we were hemorrhaging 750,000 jobs a month and when unemployment hit 10 percent. The Freedom Tower now rises above Lower Manhattan and it looks as though the economy may be resuming its stalled recovery. Indeed, Osama is dead and G.M. is alive.

The President made his case to finish an unfinished job.

His closing remarks renewed the week's underlying theme that's bigger than even the cause for his reelection, which is "our destinies are bound together; that a freedom without love or charity or duty or patriotism is unworthy of our founding ideals and those who died for them. We don't turn our back. We leave no one behind. We pull each other up." We don't just let them die if they lack health insurance or any other means of support.

Bruce Springsteen's song "We Take Care of Our Own" closed the speech. To quote the "other" Boss: "Wherever this flag's flown, we take care of our own."

http://veracitystew.com/2012/09/09/reflections-on-dnc-2012-wherever-this-flags-flown/

  • 135 votes
#1.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:27 AM EDT

Additionally I have no intention of paying more taxes so Romney can get a tax break.

Me either Ron!

It's bad enough we don't know what tax rate Willard pays due to his refusal to show us his tax returns!

I see where Larry Flint is offering a million dollar "bounty" on them! lol

Sorry about your Colts yesterday!

  • 108 votes
#1.7 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:27 AM EDT
Comment author avatarold fat guy-1144960Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Sandy...

The problem is MUCH more sever than balancing the federal budget

Jobs is the biggest problem we face and JOBS will create government revenue

Romney wants energy independence by 2020. This will fix our jobs problem and deficits too if we quit spending like drunken sailors on liberty

BARRACK OBAMA...FAILED LEADERSHIP

  • 39 votes
#1.8 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:30 AM EDT
Comment author avatarHarley ChicExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

42 months of 8+% unemployment, a record since 1948; labor participation rate at 63.6%, lowest since 1981; weakest recovery since WWII; $5.5 Trillion in new debt; attacks on the Constitution with contraceptive rule, Healthcare mandate/tax, appointments when Congress not in recess, not enforcing Federal laws, Holder;s contempt of COngress on Fast and Furious= that's what Hope and Change has brought this country....

America can't survive another 4 years of Obama!

  • 57 votes
#1.9 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:33 AM EDT
Comment author avatarXabreExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hey Harley:

You're so concerned about the debt, but you'll vote for a guy that plans to add $600B to the current deficit? You're either ignorant or extremely hypocritical.

  • 127 votes
#1.10 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:37 AM EDT
Comment author avatarHarley ChicExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The stimu-less was supposed to spark GDP, give us "shovel-ready jobs," green shoots, Recovery Summer, a ceiling of 8% unemployment, a CURRENT unemployment rate of 5.7%.

Fail, fail, fail, fail, fail.

Worse than fail, actually, since -- as the CBO and Greenspan noted -- the stimu-less reduced GDP over the next 10 years!

The notion that the economy was going lose 700,000 jobs per month until Barack Obama came along is laughable. In fact, the economy had already started to stabilize before he even passed his failed stimu-less.

Obama took a tough situation... and has made everything WORSE!

  • 52 votes
#1.11 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:38 AM EDT
Comment author avatarHarley ChicExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hey Xabre, find someone else to attack and stop stalking me.

  • 29 votes
#1.12 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:39 AM EDT
Comment author avatarXabreExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Yeah, Harley will just ignore and deflect.

In fact, the economy had already started to stabilize before he even passed his failed stimu-less.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Stop talking about things of which you have no idea. And hit the gym chunker.

  • 81 votes
#1.13 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:40 AM EDT
Comment author avatarConcern Citizen-856329Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

As a very well known saying goes,

Don't count you chickens before they hatch.

Like I said after the Rep Convention Romney had a lead of 4% and now as expected is President's Obama time to have that lead.

I will give it about 2 weeks before the Polls start to get even again. No matter how much the left gets to scream in FR, thing have not changed and we still have a close race.

It is still about the economy.

Romney\Ryan 2012,

  • 35 votes
#1.14 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:43 AM EDT

It is still about the economy.

Yeah, it's about the economy which is why the Republicans propose to not only return to, but expand on principles that have thirty years of recorded failure (unless of course you view increasing the debt as 'success'). Great plan.

  • 96 votes
#1.15 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

Dear Mitt,

I am not too worked up about the poll numbers and actually think they are giving you the benefit of the doubt. I expect this is the result of you drawing a blank on the Tax issue both personal and the ones you want to cut.

Your corporate BS will not work running for POTUS and you should expect the A beating of your life in November,

Sincerely,

Not Fooled - Middle Class Taxpayer

  • 119 votes
#1.16 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

Sounds like you're just a little paranoid Harley Chic. Your posts show just how desperate you republicans are.

  • 83 votes
#1.17 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:47 AM EDT
Comment author avatarColorado-ManExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Ron - But you are willing for me to pay taxes so the non-productive populace doesn't have to provide its own healthcare. An interesting hypocrisy.

  • 22 votes
#1.18 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:47 AM EDT
Comment author avatarHarley ChicExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Enormous amounts of data say Xabre is a liar. But the mental midget never lets facts slow him down. :-)

  • 24 votes
#1.19 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

Looks like we will have to wait for Wrongme's concession speech for their campaign to be dictated by the fact checkers.

So far, the numbers have been few and far between coming out of the Wrongme camp, and with good reason. One of his advisers admitted revealing the specifics would lose the election for the right wing.

Same for the tax returns. He will take the hit for hiding them, because it would all be over if he got honest with the American people.

  • 72 votes
#1.20 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

Enormous amounts of data say Xabre is a liar. But the mental midget never lets facts slow him down. :-)

Feel free to post said data.

P.S. What was the "job score" again? I seem to have forgotten.

  • 58 votes
#1.21 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

"Newhouse adds, "The key numbers in this election are the 43 straight months of 8% or higher unemployment, the 23 million Americans struggling to find work, and the 47 million Americans who are on food stamps."

Did anyone notice in this statement that no mention was made of the job growth under Obama..lower than we all would like for sure..but heck of a sight better than anything under Bush and the republicans..and so far...nothing Romney has said has shown he has a grip on this nation and its problems at all. If his idea of leting us know he will get something done is by saying "trust me" he has already lost in my book.

  • 76 votes
#1.22 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:51 AM EDT
Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Sounds like you're just a little paranoid Harley Chic.

It's the silicone talking...

  • 58 votes
#1.23 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:51 AM EDT

Romney camp: 'Don't get too worked up about the latest polling'

Nor fact checking, nor the truth, nor honesty, nor specifics, nor...

  • 88 votes
#1.24 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:52 AM EDT
Comment author avatarXabreExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

It's the silicone talking...

Sounds more like the cellulite.

  • 51 votes
#1.25 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:52 AM EDT

Better change your Depends. You're leaking.

Sad isn't when that's the best retort you can muster because the doofus you're having run against Obama is Romney. :)

  • 47 votes
#1.26 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

Here you go Xabre Jr...now wipe that egg off your face...at least i think that's egg ;-o

A Few More Obama Failures ---

http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/09/06/obamas-failure-on-jobs-four-damning-charts/

  • 23 votes
#1.27 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

Someone please tell vague Romney/Lyin campaign we're not worked up but revved up by the countless success of President Obama's administration hence his imminent re-election.

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 61 votes
#1.28 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:55 AM EDT

@oldfatguy

Romney wants 8 years to fix the problems.

His words. LOL

Obama 2012

  • 76 votes
#1.29 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:56 AM EDT
Comment author avatarXabreExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Here you go Xabre Jr...now wipe that egg off your face...at least i think that's egg ;-o

A Few More Obama Failures ---

Obama "failures" != GOP successes. Would you like to try again chunker?

  • 51 votes
#1.30 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:56 AM EDT

You're so concerned about the debt, but you'll vote for a guy that plans to add $600B to the current deficit? You're either ignorant or extremely hypocritical

as the current one runs it up exponentionally? stick to 'correcting' people on languages LOL

P.S. What was the "job score" again? I seem to have forgotten.

still dismal but you guys think if everyone stopped looking for jobs and the unemployment would be zero Hooray right? only in your world

  • 18 votes
#1.31 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

Yeah, Mittens... the only poll that actually counts is the one we'll be taking on November 6.

This is what you really need to get worked up over:

“New York’s attorney general is investigating whether executives at Bain Capital, the private equity firm founded by Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, improperly avoided paying $200 million in federal income taxes, according to a report by The New York Times,” per the Boston Globe.

When all is said and done, the history books will record that Willard Mitt Romney was not able to buy the election in 2012.

VOTE OBAMA/ BIDEN

  • 70 votes
#1.32 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:58 AM EDT

Harley,

Read the following article. Monthly job losses for the last several months of 2008 were the worst in six decades. Economists said we were on track to see 10% unemployment. The economy was hardly "stablizing" when Obama took office, as you stated. Funny how now Repubs are starting to rewrite history that it really wasn't that bad in 2008, so Obama should have no trouble turning everything around (with no cooperation from the Right) in less than 4 years. I saw another poster last week call what was going on in 2008 a "slow economy." What a sign of desperation! By the way if Congress had passed the President's jobs bill they have been holding hostage for the last year and a half, there would be another 1.3 to 1.9 million jobs.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/09/news/economy/jobs_december/

  • 62 votes
#1.33 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:01 AM EDT

as the current one runs it up exponentionally? stick to 'correcting' people on languages LOL

Hey Caesar, "adding to the current deficit" = current deficit plus $600 billion more. It isn't exactly rocket science.

  • 38 votes
#1.34 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:02 AM EDT
Comment author avatarConcern Citizen-856329Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Harley Chic, when you give the Liberals on this site, they will attack you personnally.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

It's the silicone talking...

Hey Beisty, not even Silicone would help you with that mouth of yours.

  • 23 votes
#1.35 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:02 AM EDT

Read the following article.

Forget it!

If it's not chock full of pictures, she's lost...

  • 42 votes
#1.36 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:03 AM EDT

People in general don't seem to realize that election year polling means absolutely nothing. The only poll that counts is the one they take on the first Tuesday of November.

I would remind everyone that Bush had a 10 point lead on Kerry right after the Democratic and Republican conventions, and wound up winning the 2004 election by only 3% of the vote.

Romney's spokesperson does have a point. For all the rah-rah we hear about the "underpinnings" of this economy, it still sucks, and it very well could be Obama's undoing.

  • 15 votes
#1.37 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:04 AM EDT

I saw Romney proclaiming that Obama thinks the role of government is to create jobs...and then he criticizes Obama when the unemployment numbers don't go down fast enough. How can it be Obama's fault the numbers aren't better, if it isn't the role of government to create jobs?

Shouldn't Romney be criticizing the "job creators" in the private sector for not doing their part? Democrats are accused of waging "class warfare" against the rich, but it seems Romney is the one who should be criticizing them for the failure of the private sector.

  • 61 votes
#1.38 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

Xabre

as the current one runs it up exponentionally? stick to 'correcting' people on languages LOL

Hey Caesar, "adding to the current deficit" = current deficit plus $600 billion more. It isn't exactly rocket science.

show me. but what youre saying 'hey as long as my guy does it, its ok. ' Got it. Im not really a fan of Romney however I know the destructive nature of the current narcissit. I am all for changing of the guard every 4 until the Pols listen

How can it be Obama's fault the numbers are better, if it isn't the role of government to create jobs?

Its called creating an environment that is friendly towards job growth. but you knew that right Amy or are you 24/7 Obama cheerleader?

  • 19 votes
#1.39 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:07 AM EDT

"Don't get too worked up about the latest polling," Newhbouse writes in the memo.

LoL The newest Republican mastermind, Neil Newhouse, reveals the paradigm for Republican campaign strategy --

  1. Don't let the fact checkers get you down. We'll just lie louder.
  2. Don't worry if those lies don't work and the polls show we're losing by a landslide. We'll just rig the vote, like we've been planning all along.
  3. No questions from reporters, please. Just print the lies we give you.
  4. Rinse and repeat.

Amy B --

Shouldn't Romney be criticizing the "job creators" in the private sector for not doing their part? Democrats are accused of waging "class warfare" against the rich, but it seems Romney is the one who should be criticizing them for the failure of the private sector.

Don't be too hard on those job creators, Amy. It's uncertain world.

After all, sitting on mountains of cash can be pretty shaky.

  • 52 votes
#1.40 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:08 AM EDT
Comment author avatarHarley ChicExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Yes CC, it's the norm here...facts scare the libs, so they attack.

The most important left-wing goal in any situation is winning.

The left-wing must rationalize everything in order to win, nothing or no one is off limits from attacks.

  • 23 votes
#1.41 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:08 AM EDT

"Don't get too worked up over the bump in the polls. It's still within the margin of our plans to alienate and block the poor, minorities, and elderly from voting. If all else fails, we can still depend on our boys in the Roberts Court to annoint monsieur Romney."

  • 32 votes
#1.42 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:09 AM EDT

but what youre saying 'hey as long as my guy does it, its ok. ' Got it.

No, I'm saying "my guy" does it less. Criticizing the deficit and / or debt when the candidate you support means you are either hypocritical, or absolutely ignorant of the fact.

Yes CC, it's the norm here...facts scare the libs, so they attack.

Yeah Harley, it's SOP here. Facts scare the GOP trolls, so they deflect.

The left-wing must rationalize everything in order to win, nothing or no one is off limits from attacks.

Rationalizing? Like trying to say Obama's "failures" are really GOP successes?

  • 35 votes
#1.43 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:11 AM EDT

For Ryan and Romney to spend the weekend on all channels talking about how they will work with Congress to close loopholes but never define what they are - CLASSIC for their campaign! We all (well those of us that can think on our own) know that the biggest ones affect the middle class the most. I don't know how the Republican posters on here can stand behind someone who refuses to state what his plan is!

AND FR - please return the ignore feature!!!!!

  • 42 votes
#1.44 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:11 AM EDT

Harley Chic --

The left-wing must rationalize everything in order to win, nothing or no one is off limits from attacks.

Well, actually, YOU are from now on. At least from me.

Some things are just too easy. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

See what happens when you give the left-wing gun rights, too?

  • 22 votes
#1.45 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:16 AM EDT

Just be ready for the really dirty tricks by the GOP come November. They have a lot of PAC money set aside for just this purpose.

  • 38 votes
#1.46 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

Here are more facts FR lefties. I say FR lefties because you are the extreme wing of the democrat party.

The information below comes from a well known left media.

Obama 46.8%

  • Romney 46.0%
  • Undecided
  • Other
  • Currently tracking 426 polls
    Updated 12 minutes ago

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2012-general-election-romney-vs-obama#!mindate=2011-08-16

    • 13 votes
    #1.47 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

    if conservatives are so concerned about the national debt....remember repuks control the purse string in congress.

    and what are the conservatives in congress doing about the debt? the same policy's that got us into dept.

    • 45 votes
    #1.49 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:20 AM EDT

    Here are more facts FR lefties. I say FR lefties because you are the extreme wing of the democrat party.

    Please go back to posting "three words". Anything more is a "waist" of time.

    Damn it, I need a "brake".

    • 24 votes
    #1.50 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:23 AM EDT

    No, I'm saying "my guy" does it less. Criticizing the deficit and / or debt when the candidate you support means you are either hypocritical, or absolutely ignorant of the fact.

    LMAO. You can't be serious. Romney isn't president but Obama is and has Double the debt and You say Obama does it less. Surely you jest.

    remember repuks control the purse string in congress.

    only half but you knew that right? Repukes (your words hack) control HOR and Senate is democrat controlled. Speaking of that why isnt the Senate voting on any of the budgets proposed by the HOR?

    • 15 votes
    #1.51 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

    Xabre --

    Damn it, I need a "brake".

    "Slow down, you move too fast, you've got to make the morning last ...."

    And by the way, stop stalking Harley Chic. She's getting a little overexcited.

    The yoke's on her.

    • 23 votes
    #1.52 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:29 AM EDT

    When the economy imploded in 2008, the Republican party initially rejected the financial sector rescue plan. The stock market reacted by going into a further tailspin, John McCain suspended his campaign (apparently being unable to do two things at one time) and "rushed" back to Washington. Then Congress acted and McCain went back to campaigning, once the economy, which was "fundamentally sound" was rescued with billions of taxpayer dollars.

    The funds were used initially, to preserve the financial industry and then the auto industry. There is no argument from Republicans that saving the hides of Citi, BoA, Chase, and others, through the money given to AIG, was a good thing. I did not read an opinion piece from Mitt Romney saying that we should let Wall Street go bankrupt.

    Now we have Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan tell us to just trust them. The "principals" by which they act will guide what they do. The only principals we have seen, thus far, have been for both of them to show their utter lack of principals.

    Willard Mitt Romney is stuck in the 1950's, when he grew up, and is apparently unable to realize that in the modern era, not only are the words you said months ago available to the media, but they are seen by voters, as are the statements you say in the morning which contradict what you say in the afternoon. Paul Ryan can't even tell the truth about something as unimportant as his running time in a marathon he ran 20 years ago.

    Why would anyone trust these two with the most important positions in the entire world ?

    • 33 votes
    #1.53 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:29 AM EDT

    See what happens when you give the left-wing gun rights, too?

    fortunately you can't hit the broadside of a barn

    • 10 votes
    #1.54 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:32 AM EDT

    Ensign Peak Advisors appears to be an instrument of plunder to transfer Wealth (i.e. money laundering) from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Ensign Peak Advisors Appears to have involved Mitt Romney, Bain Capital and Robert Gay and Goldman Sachs in this wealth transfer.

    http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/mormonreform

    =======================================

    Hmmm, what else is sinful "MYTH" hiding?

    • 21 votes
    #1.55 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:34 AM EDT

    Wonder if Bev has any info on Romney's taxes. Larry Flint is offering a cool mil.

    • 16 votes
    #1.56 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:41 AM EDT

    Quoth Auger --

    fortunately you can't hit the broadside of a barn

    LoL Maybe not. Although, I've been known to shoot one with my camera.

    You'd just better hope I can't hit the broadside of a blogger.

    Not that you'll ever get the chance to find out.

    • 12 votes
    #1.57 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:41 AM EDT

    @JC - your very first line is an epic fail.

    Selma March Got Me Born - NOT

    Obama never said that. Since the first item in your plagiarized list has been debunked, we can only assume the rest of your list contains the same amount of garbage.

    • 32 votes
    #1.58 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:55 AM EDT

    What ever happened to that story about the break-in at the accounting firm that has Mitt's tax information? Something about blackmail and releasing Mitt's records if he/she isn't paid. Did they catch someone or did Mitt pay a million bucks to keep it all quiet?

    Inquiring minds want to know! How much is it worth to keep Mitt's felonies hidden?

    • 19 votes
    #1.59 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

    You'd just better hope I can't hit the broadside of a blogger.

    Not that you'll ever get the chance to find out.

    should i be disappointed LOL. Tell me Beagle how come Obama's numbers aren't through the roof considering how 'Great' the DNC was and the 'numbers' as of last Friday? Not good for Obama methinks. GT said they were going to go through the roof

    • 7 votes
    #1.60 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

    Xabre - I see you have both biker broad and concern fascinated with you today. :-| Neither of them can post a single fact but they sure like to scream about their non-facts - or made up ones.

    No, I'm sure the Romney camp is telling everyone not to get worked up over polls showing Obama with a 4 point lead. They're waiting until after the first debate, when the lead is in double digits - to tell them to get worked up.

    However, it's very telling they are no longer running ads in PA or MI - realizing these are states they CANNOT win! Just wait - more to come!

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 28 votes
    #1.61 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:03 PM EDT

    Harley Chic, maybe you should've read the comments listed below that Forbes "article" you posted to see what a piece of garbage it was and how out of context those charts were.

    • 23 votes
    #1.62 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:05 PM EDT

    Just exactly how much does the Democratic Party pay you all for posting the same dribble on every page? That must be cutting into the Obama* re-election fund. After all, making a campaign ad look like a news story must cost some money.

    I will still keep lying to pollsters and so will everyone I know.

    The worst flip - flop in human history was the, "it is not a tax" while sending a u s attorney to the supreme court to argue for the tax.

    The U.S. Supreme court clearly ruled that, "if not for the tax, this whole thing would be unconstitutional".

    • 7 votes
    #1.63 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:06 PM EDT

    Harley - Not sure what rock you just crawled out from under - but to your really have no faith in our great country to state that we can't survive as a country with four more years of a Democratic Administration.

    Let's see we survived the British Invasion, Civil War, Two World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, Persian Gulf War, 9/11, Iraq war, Afghan-War, Natural Disasters -Extreme Weather events. "But four more years of President Obama and the USA is done - Really?????"

    I think you really need to reel your negative attacks and scare tactics in a little don't you? Have a little faith - that is why we have three branches of government to help balance issues. Take a breathe, relax and realize that everything will be ok - we are still here after four years, I am sure we will be here in four more!

    • 30 votes
    #1.64 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:10 PM EDT

    Quoth Auger --

    should i be disappointed LOL.

    Go ahead, make my day.

    Tell me Beagle how come Obama's numbers aren't through the roof considering how 'Great' the DNC was and the 'numbers' as of last Friday?

    Somewhat depressingly, this is quickly getting to be my most-used quotation --

    "You can fool some of the people all of the time ...."

    There's no accounting for it, Auger. Not if people are really paying attention.

    But what's your excuse?

    • 11 votes
    #1.65 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:11 PM EDT
    Comment author avatarBeverly in ChicagoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    J.C.-1016889

    TERRY ANDERSON,
    A BLACK LOS ANGELES TALK RADIO HOST, WENT DOWN A LIST OF THINGS SENATOR OBAMA
    SAID THAT AREN'T EXACTLY CORRECT.

    Hey J.C, Just because Terry Anderson is Black doestn't mean he's not a lyin tea-Banger

    MIXTURE OF TRUE AND FALSE INFORMATION

    Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

    This criticism is based on an overly-literal interpretation of Barack Obama's 2007 speech in Selma, Alabama, which we covered in a separate article.

    Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

    These attributes are not mutually exclusive: Barack Obama's (biological) father was all of these things at different times in his life, as Obama described in his book, Dreams from My Father:
    [My father] was as African, I would learn, a Kenyan of the Luo tribe, born on the shores of Lake Victoria in a place called Alego. The village was poor, but his father — my other grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama — had been a prominent farmer, an elder of the tribe, a medicine man with healing powers. My father grew up herding his father's goats and attending the local school, set up by the British colonial administration, where he had shown great promise. He eventually won a scholarship to study in Nairobi; and then, on the eve of Kenyan independence, he had been selected by Kenyan leaders and American sponsors to attend a university in the United States.

    Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

    We are unaware of Barack Obama's ever having claimed his father was a "proud freedom fighter." Obama has written (and spoken) at length about his father's returning to Africa from America to work for the Kenyan government, with that country's political turmoil eventually leaving him a "bitter drunk" and "a defeated, lonely bureaucrat."

    My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.

    As we discussed in a separate article, Kenyan politician Raila Odinga has recently claimed to be Barack Obama's cousin, but there is no substantive evidence documenting his claim, and the two men share no meaningful familial connection.

    My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. According to the New York Times: "I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith," Ms. Obama, 85, said in a recent interview in Kenya.' Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

    The author has apparently confused Obama's grandmothers. In the instance cited above, Obama was speaking of his maternal grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, not his paternal grandmother. (In 2007 Obama described his maternal grandparents as "nonpracticing Baptists and Methodists.")

    My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

    Many Swahili words and names are of Arabic origin (just as many English words originated with other languages). "Barack" is a Swahili name that entered the language via historical trade and cultural ties with Arabia.

    I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

    The topic is already covered in our separate article about the (false) claims that Barack Obama is a Muslim.

    My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

    Barack Obama attended more than one school in Indonesia, one of which was a public school that included Islamic religious instruction among its curriculum, and one of which was a private Catholic school.

    I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

    We are unaware of Barack Obama's ever having claimed he was "fluent" in any Indonesian language (beyond the level of competence that could reasonably be expected of the non-native child speaker he was at the time he lived in that country). He did acquire (and apparently still has) a passable command of Bahasa, as Time magazine noted in a 2007 article:
    When prominent Indonesians visit the U.S., the first person they want to meet is Obama, says Parnohadiningrat Sudjadnan, the Indonesian ambassador to the U.S. "Back home people think of him as one of us, or at least one who understands us," he says, adding that they are delighted to find that Obama speaks passable Bahasa, the language spoken in Indonesia and Malaysia.

    Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language.

    We have not found any citation for Obama's having claimed that his childhood in Indonesia qualified him as having "more foreign experience" (what the comparative "more" refers to also isn't clear). Barack Obama did live in Indonesia for four years as a child, and he could in fact speak the local language passably well. Whether his time in that country provided him more "foreign experience" is argumentative, but people other than Obama himself have suggested that it might:
    Some would argue that his childhood experiences, as well as his mixed heritage (his father was Kenyan, his mother from Kansas), gives him a better inner compass on foreign policy than most Americans. They cite the pioneering work of Ruth Hill Useem, the late sociologist of Michigan State University, who spent her career studying what she called Third Culture Kids — the millions of U.S. children (an estimated 20 million since the advent of mass air travel) who have been carted abroad by their missionary, diplomatic, corporate or military parents. These frequent-flier kids don't spend enough time in their adopted countries to become fully bicultural, but they take pieces and add it to their home values and traditions — creating millions of "Third Cultures." Studies have shows that kids who have spent time abroad are more likely to go to college, to relate to one another despite the influences of vastly differing cultures, and to latch on to one aspect of their culture — in Obama's case African Americanism.

    I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

    Barack Obama has lived in, traveled to, or otherwise spent time in countries in Asia, Africa, and the Middle East, including Russia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Israel, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, the Palestinian Territories, Afghanistan Chad, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Kenya, and South Africa, as well as serving as a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Whether his experiences make him "stronger on foreign affairs" is argumentative, but again, people other than Obama have suggested that it might:
    "Living abroad does give you a wider view of the world," says Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Security Adviser under Jimmy Carter, and a Polish-American who spent four years as a child living in Germany with his diplomat father. Obama is "a person with genuine sensitivity of world affairs," says Brzenzinski, who is supporting Obama. "It's not the conventional mouthing of culture sensitivities." Brzezinski points to Obama's greater willingness to meet leaders of hostile nations and his early resistance to the war in Iraq as examples of his superior intuition on foreign policy.

    I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

    Obama wrote at length in his two books about his experiences growing up as the child of mixed-race parents and the issues that accompanied that status, and he noted in his first book, Dreams From My Father that before entering politics he had used marijuana and cocaine. His drug use, he wrote, was "... something that could push questions of who I was out of my mind, something that could flatten out the landscape of my heart, blur the edges of my memory" and said in a 2006 interview that his drug use was "... reflective of the struggles and confusion of a teenage boy. Teenage boys are frequently confused."

    An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

    We could not find an instance in either of Barack Obama's books (or elsewhere) where he claimed that his decision to run for public office was influenced by an article in Ebony magazine.

    A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

    In Dreams from My Father, Barack Obama writes of a childhood experience occurring on a day when his mother dropped him off at a library on her way to work, and he began thumbing through issues of LIFE magazine:
    Eventually I came across a photograph of an older man in dark glasses and a raincoat walking down an empty road. I couldn't guess what this picture was about; there seemed nothing unusual about the subject. On the next page was another photograph, this one a close-up of the same man's hands. They had a strange, unnatural pallor, as if blood had been drawn from the flesh. Turning back to the first picture, I now saw that the man's crinkly hair, his heavy lips and broad fleshy nose, all had this same uneven, ghostly hue.

    He must be terrible sick, I thought. A radiation victim, maybem or an albino — I had seen one of those on the street a few days before, and my mother had explained about such things. Except when I read the words that went with the picture, that wasn't it at all. The man had received a chemical treatment, the article explained, to lighten his complexion. He had paid for it with his own money. He expressed some regret about trying to pass himself off as a white man, was sorry about how badly things had turned out. But the results were irreversible. There were thousands of people like him, black men and women back in America who'd undergone the same treatment in response to advertisements that promised happiness as a white person.

    I felt my face and neck get hot. My stomach knotted; the type began to blur on the page. Did my mother know about this? What about her boss — why was he so calm, reading through his reports a few feet down the hall? I had a desperate urge to jump out of my seat, to show them what I had learned, to demand some explanation or assurance. But something held me back. As in a dream, I had no voice for my newfound fear. By the time my mother came to take me home, my face wore a smile and the magazines were back in their proper place. The room, the air, was quiet as before.
    As far as we know, no one has yet found any matching article in the pages of LIFE magazine. However, that does necessarily not mean Barack Obama saw no such article; it may simply mean that, writing decades after the fact, he misremembered the title of the magazine he was viewing.

    I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

    In 2004, just after winning election to the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama said during a press conference, in response to a question about his possibly running for national office, that:
    I am a believer in knowing what you're doing when you apply for a job, and I think that if I were to seriously consider running on a national ticket I would essentially have to start now, before having served a day in the Senate. Now, there are some people who might be comfortable doing that, but I'm not one of them.

    Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

    A legislative "present" vote (which essentially counts as a "No" vote but does not go on record as such) is, as the New York Times observed, "not unusual in Illinois," a tactic often used in concert with other party members and leaders:
    An examination of Illinois records shows at least 36 times when Mr. Obama was either the only state senator to vote present or was part of a group of six or fewer to vote that way.

    In more than 50 votes, he seemed to be acting in concert with other Democrats as part of a strategy.

    In other cases, Mr. Obama's present votes stood out among widespread support as he tried to use them to register legal and other objections to parts of the bills.

    In Illinois, political experts say voting present is a relatively common way for lawmakers to express disapproval of a measure. It can at times help avoid running the risks of voting no, they add.
    Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

    We're unsure what supposed "misvote" this line references.

    I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

    Barack Obama was indeed a professor at the University of Chicago's Law School, a fact verified by that institution itself:
    The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer."

    From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.

    I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

    Between 1993 and 2002, Barack Obama worked as a civil rights lawyer with the Chicago law firm of Miner, Barnhill & Galland.

    Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.

    It's unclear what ethics bill this statement references. Obama did help pass a major ethics reform bill as an Illinois State Senator, and 110th U.S. Congress passed the Legislative Transparency and Accountability Act, which "closely mirrored and drew key provisions from a bill (S. 230) that Senators Obama and Feingold introduced in January 2007." We could find no reference to document Obama's supposedly having said that neither of those bills would exist if not for him.

    The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

    Again, it's unclear which ethics bill this statement references, nor could we find any reference to document Obama's supposedly having said such a bill was "hard to pass.'

    I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

    As the New York Times reported in February 2008:
    When residents in Illinois voiced outrage two years ago upon learning that the Exelon Corporation had not disclosed radioactive leaks at one of its nuclear plants, the state’s freshman senator, Barack Obama, took up their cause.

    Mr. Obama scolded Exelon and federal regulators for inaction and introduced a bill to require all plant owners to notify state and local authorities immediately of even small leaks. He has boasted of it on the campaign trail, telling a crowd in Iowa in December that it was “the only nuclear legislation that I’ve passed.”

    "I just did that last year," he said, to murmurs of approval.

    A close look at the path his legislation took tells a very different story. While he initially fought to advance his bill, even holding up a presidential nomination to try to force a hearing on it, Mr. Obama eventually rewrote it to reflect changes sought by Senate Republicans, Exelon and nuclear regulators. The new bill removed language mandating prompt reporting and simply offered guidance to regulators, whom it charged with addressing the issue of unreported leaks.

    Those revisions propelled the bill through a crucial committee. But, contrary to Mr. Obama’s comments in Iowa, it ultimately died amid parliamentary wrangling in the full Senate.

    I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

    We couldn't find a reference for Barack Obama's supposedly claiming that he had "released" his state records, only that he said he "didn't have the resources available to maintain those kinds of records" and that they might not exist. Politico.com noted in October 2008 that:
    Obama's Senate files became an issue after he pressed Hillary Rodham Clinton during their nomination battle to release the schedules from her eight years as first lady.

    When her campaign demanded Obama release his state Senate files, he told reporters he did not "maintain a file of eight years of work in the state Senate because I didn't have the resources available to maintain those kinds of records." The records "could have been thrown out. I haven't been in the state Senate now for quite some time," he said.

    His campaign later said that "files pertinent to ongoing casework" were passed to his successor, but Obama didn't save correspondence with the general public, state associations or lobbyists, or memos on legislation and correspondence with Illinois state agencies. Some of the records that have surfaced have done little to dampen the demand for a more complete accounting.

    I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

    In Barack Obama's book Dreams from My Father, beginning at the start of Chapter 9, he writes in detail about the efforts of community organizers to push a grassroots campaign advocating the removal of asbestos from the Altgeld Gardens housing project in Chicago. Although in his book Obama emphasizes his own role in the effort, many other people who took part in are indeed mentioned as well.

    My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

    It is unclear to us what bill or statement is supposedly being referenced here.

    I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

    We couldn't find a reference for Barack Obama's having described himself as a "bold leader in Illinois," but certainly some of his supporters have claimed that of him (just as some of his critics have claimed the opposite).

    I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

    Barack Obama did pass 26 bills in his final year as an Illinois state senator. We could not find any reference to his claiming that all of them were "my own" bills, but he certainly received a boost in passing them from Illinois Senate President (and fellow Democrat) Emil Jones, who "helped Obama learn the ways of the state legislature and gave Obama the chance to work on the ethics legislation and death penalty reforms that Obama now boasts about in his presidential campaign":
    Emil Jones Jr. helped Obama master the intricacies of the Legislature. When Democrats took control of the state Senate, Jones, though he risked offending colleagues who had toiled futilely on key issues under Republican rule, tapped Obama to take the lead on high-profile legislative initiatives that he now boasts about in his presidential campaign.

    And when Obama wanted a promotion to the U.S. Senate, Jones provided critical support that gave the little-known legislator legitimacy, keeping him from being instantly trampled by the front-runners.

    No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

    As FactCheck.org noted in March 2008 about the 'NAFTA-Gate' controversy:
    It's now clear that a Canadian news report that started this flap wasn't accurate. No evidence has surfaced to show that any Obama "staffer" telephoned the Canadian ambassador in Washington, and all concerned deny that any such conversation took place. But it is equally clear that Obama's senior economic adviser did visit Canada's consulate in Chicago on Feb. 8, and that NAFTA was one of the several topics discussed.

    Exactly what was said is not so clear, however. The memo says Obama's anti-NAFTA stance was described as just "political maneuvering," but the adviser says he said no such thing. The campaign says the adviser wasn't authorized to convey any message from the candidate anyway. No audio recording or verbatim transcript of the disputed conversation is available, and there’s no reason to expect that any exists.

    I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism.

    In September 2007, the U.S. Senate voted on a resolution to designate the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist organization:
    Charged with defending the system put in place after Iran's 1979 Islamic Revolution, the Guards answer to Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and are revered by many for their defense of the country during the 1980s war with Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

    The legislative move to classify Shiite Muslim-dominated Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard force as terrorist would be first such move against a foreign government entity and would freeze any of its assets under U.S. jurisdiction.

    It would also allow the U.S. Treasury Department to move against firms subject to U.S. law that do business with the Guard, which have vast commercial interests at home and abroad.
    Senator Obama was on the campaign trail at the time and did not return to Washington for the vote.

    I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

    On March 1, a Columbian Army strike on a FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) rebel camp in Columbia killed 24 people, including Raul Reyes, the FARC's foreign minister. Files in a laptop computer seized from the wreckage of the rebel camp included references to U.S. diplomatic overtures which the Associated Press described as "scintillating, if vague":
    In a Dec. 11 message to the secretariat, [Ivan] Marquez writes: "If you are in agreement, I can receive Jim and Tucker to hear the proposal of the gringos."

    Writing two days before his death, Reyes tells his comrades that "the gringos," working through Ecuador's government, are interested "in talking to us on various issues."

    "They say the new president of their country will be (Barack) Obama," he writes, saying Obama rejects both the Bush administration's free trade agreement with Colombia and the current military aid program.
    Exactly who the referenced "gringos" were and whether they had any substantive connection to Barack Obama is unknown.

    I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

    In August 2007, major Democratic candidates signed a pledge to not campaign in Florida because that state had moved its primary election up to 29 January 2008, one week earlier than the Democratic national rules allowed. In January 2008, the Obama campaign launched national television advertisements on CNN and MSNBC that were also shown in Florida. Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton maintainted that they had asked CNN and MSNBC to pull Florida from the ad buy, but those networks said they could not.

    I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.

    Senator Obama didn't seriously claim to have "won" Michigan; during an 8 March 2008 Today Show interview he misspoke and inadvertently mentioned Michigan among a list of states which he had won. In accordance with the agreement mentioned in the previous entry, Barack Obama's name didn't even appear on the Michigan ballot.

    I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

    Senator Obama didn't claim to have "won" Nevada (a state that holds caucuses rather than direct-election primaries); he noted, correctly, that although Senator Hillary Clinton tallied more overall votes at the Nevada caucuses, he actually picked up more national delegates from that state:
    Mitt Romney took Nevada's Republican caucuses, while Democrats debated whether their party had rendered a split decision. New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton won the vote count among those at the caucuses, but Illinois Sen. Barack Obama claimed a slight advantage in national convention delegates on the strength of his showing in rural areas.

    Obama said in a statement released by his campaign that he came from 25 points behind and nearly beat Clinton today because he did well across all of Nevada — "including rural areas where Democrats have traditionally struggled."

    Obama's campaign said his performance in rural areas of the state helped him win a total of 13 national convention delegates, versus 12 for Clinton.

    I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

    Senator Obama has no influence or power over the holding of caucuses rather than primary elections; that choice is made by each state individually, and candidates have to abide by whatever is decided.

    I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

    We could not find any reference to document Barack Obama's having claimed he passied "900 bills in the [Illinois] state senate."

    My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.

    We are unsure what "extortion" claim this statement supposedly references.

    I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

    In April 2007, the Chicago Tribune wrote of Barack Obama's first campaign for public office:
    The day after New Year's 1996, operatives for Barack Obama filed into a barren hearing room of the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners.

    There they began the tedious process of challenging hundreds of signatures on the nominating petitions of state Sen. Alice Palmer, the longtime progressive activist from the city's South Side. And they kept challenging petitions until every one of Obama's four Democratic primary rivals was forced off the ballot.

    Fresh from his work as a civil rights lawyer and head of a voter registration project that expanded access to the ballot box, Obama launched his first campaign for the Illinois Senate saying he wanted to empower disenfranchised citizens.

    But in that initial bid for political office, Obama quickly mastered the bare-knuckled arts of Chicago electoral politics. His overwhelming legal onslaught signaled his impatience to gain office, even if that meant elbowing aside an elder stateswoman like Palmer.

    I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

    Senator Obama didn't say that has never accepted money from political action committees. (He used PAC money in his previous U.S. Senate and Illinois state Senate races.) He pledged that he would not accept PAC money for his 2008 presidential bid, a pledge that he has upheld.

    I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

    As Politico.com noted in May 2008:
    In his campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, Obama is refusing donations from federally registered lobbyists and excluding them from his official campaign staff. (They can still be advisers and volunteers, and their spouses' checks are certainly welcome.)
    The Wall Street Journal observed in November 2008 that:
    Democratic lobbyists are wondering about their future in an Obama administration. Although Sen. Obama has taken a tough line toward registered lobbyists, he has allowed himself some maneuvering room. Like Sen. McCain, Sen. Obama has banned lobbyists from working on his campaign until after they quit their lobbying jobs.
    Senator Obama also said that his administration would not employ federally registered lobbyists, although (as the New York Times noted) he has allowed himself some "wiggle room" in that regard:
    Turning to campaign promises in which he pledged sweeping ethics restrictions, President-elect Barack Obama will bar lobbyists from helping to pay the costs of his transition to power or working for it in any area in which they have represented clients in the last year, his transition team said.

    The new rules do seem to leave some wiggle room. Aides to Mr. Obama, who declared during the campaign that lobbyists would not "find a job in my White House," said the guidelines allowed for lobbyists to work on the transition in areas where they have not done any lobbying.

    Further, the rules apply to lobbyists who must register with the federal government; many people who work for lobbying firms or in other areas of the influence business in Washington do not have to register, because they do not personally lobby federal officials on specific issues.

    My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

    A widely-circulated spoof of Apple Computer's famous 1984 television advertisement for their (then-new) Macintosh computer was not created by an Obama campaign worker. It was, as explained in a statement issued by the managing director of Blue State Digital (a firm contracted to provide technology services to the Obama Campaign), created without authorization by an employee of that company:
    Statement from Thomas Gensemer, Managing Director, Blue State Digital

    On Wednesday afternoon, March the 21st, an employee at our firm, Phillip de Vellis, received a call from Arianna Huffington of "The Huffington Post" regarding the "1984" video currently circulating online. Initially, de Vellis refused to respond to her requests. He has since acknowledged to Blue State Digital that he was the creator of the video.

    Pursuant to company policy regarding outside political work or commentary on behalf of our clients or otherwise, Mr. de Vellis has been terminated from Blue State Digital effective immediately.

    Blue State Digital is under contract with the Obama Campaign for technology pursuits including software development and hosting. Additionally, one of our founding partners is on leave from the company to work directly for the campaign at headquarters.

    However, Blue State Digital is not currently engaged in any relationship with the Obama Campaign for creative or non-technical services.

    Mr. de Vellis created this video on his own time. It was done without the knowledge of management, and was in no way tied to his work at the firm or our formal engagement [on technology pursuits] with the Obama campaign.

    I have spoken with David Plouffe, Sen. Obama's campaign manager, to inform him of this action and am appreciative of his understanding and ongoing support of our work.

    I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.

    Senator Obama expressed opposition to the war in Iraq well before he gained a seat in the U.S. Senate in 2004. (The vote that authorized U.S. military action in Iraq was held in 2002.) He has since voted in the Senate to authorize funding for that war, for reasons he defended in a February 2008 Democratic debate:
    The two Democrats exchanged pointed words over each other's records on the war in Iraq, which contrast sharply even as economic and domestic concerns become dominant in the race. Clinton voted in 2002 to authorize the invasion, which Obama opposed from the start. After Obama again touted a high-profile antiwar speech he gave in Chicago before the war, Clinton pointed out that he, like her, had subsequently voted for war funding, and that their records on Iraq were similar since he came to the Senate in 2005.

    "When it wasn't just a speech, but it was actually action, where is the difference?" she said. "Where is the comparison that would in some way give a real credibility to the speech that he gave against the war?"

    Obama shot back: "Once we had driven the bus into the ditch, there were only so many ways we could get out."

    I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem. There is a Cuban Flag with Che Guevara Displayed at Barack Obama Campaign Office which you allow to be displayed. You voted against making english the official language of the United States. You voted to give illegal aliens social security benefits, which would bankrupt the social security system for Americans legally paying into it.

    Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp#FjmuFOiEbyZw1BgY.99

    =========================================

    Now take your scam and get Lost!!!


    Fired Up Ready to Go

    4 more years

    Obama /Biden 2012

    FYI: More people are paying attention to GOP LIES and bigotry. That's why President Obama is leading the polls and has out funded "MYTH".

    • 30 votes
    #1.66 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

    Concern Citizen-

    Did you read further than the headlin on this site? The average used includes several polls taken before President Obama's speech.

    ALL the polls taken after the speech show President Obama with a significant "bump".

    Again, polls aren't important except for the by swing-state trends. Let's see where those polls are after the DNC and again after the debates.

    Paul Ryan - The Deficit? I Built That!

    • 18 votes
    #1.67 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

    The two major political parties have explained their vision of the role of government.

    One party's vision is that society and the government is intertwined and should complement each other. This vision believes in the "one for all, and all for one" approach.

    One political vision is a federalist vision, where states rights trump the federal government bodies of the presidential, legislative and judicial branches. This vision sees society and government as separate from one another. This vision takes an "everyman on his own" approach. This vision of the government's role was asked and answered during the 1860s.

    One vision is the correct vision. We must look at our nation as a whole, not as fifty separate entities. Take for an example this planet Earth. Every aspect of it is fully integrated. Take the human body for another example. Each of these examples have evolved with time as a whole, not as parts.

    The approach to society and government that was started by our Founding Fathers must evolve if it is to survive and continue. We must become "whole" rather than "parts". Society as we know it is much different than that known by the Founding Fathers and in so much, it must evolve, not devolve.

    We must move forward, away from the "me first" creed and the culture of selfishness and greed expressed today by one vision, towards the culture of the "we are all in this together" vision, and must look to becoming whole and complete.

    • 18 votes
    #1.68 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

    There's no accounting for it, Auger. Not if people are really paying attention.

    But what's your excuse?

    au contraire people are paying attention and you see the lack of numbers shifting to benefit Obama is telling. That is my excuse. As for making your day you lost me on that.

    Obama is Forward right but Forward where? Prosperity? Pursuit of Happiness?

    Obama's one ring has lost its luster, time to send him packing back to Mordor

    • 6 votes
    #1.69 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

    Harley - your "tons of data" is a Forbes article from 2011??

    • 12 votes
    #1.70 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

    Auger --

    As for making your day you lost me on that.

    LoL Sure enough. You made it.

    time to send him packing back to Mordor

    He's busy right now, but if you care to go on ahead and scout out some real estate, I have a currently unemployed undead witch king sidekick who knows the area pretty well and would be happy to provide a lift ...

    ... for a small fee, of course.

    Just don't look down.

    • 7 votes
    #1.71 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

    Sandy,You know this thing "I can't get rid of the deposit in my first term" should be death to Rommey. How can anyone knowing the media is all over something admit that he can't do the thing that he has constantly hammered his opponent for. Obama has never said something like that because he knows it takes both parties in congress to do anything of the sort.

    Fixing something in your "second term" is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard!!!!!

    Oldfat guy, you need a new reality because not recognizing this reality means you will never be able to succeed at anything. You one of the welfare people you are always pointing at?

    • 10 votes
    #1.72 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

    “Amy B. Portland, ME

    I saw Romney proclaiming that Obama thinks the role of government is to create jobs...and then he criticizes Obama when the unemployment numbers don't go down fast enough. How can it be Obama's fault the numbers aren't better, if it isn't the role of government to create jobs?

    Shouldn't Romney be criticizing the "job creators" in the private sector for not doing their part? Democrats are accused of waging "class warfare" against the rich, but it seems Romney is the one who should be criticizing them for the failure of the private sector.”

    He’s right, it’s not government’s responsibility to create jobs. For every job government creates, your taxes (if you’re one of the lucky few who actually get to pay) go up because we the people have to pay the salary and benefits. It’s government’s responsibility to get out of the way so the job creators can do what they do best and that’s the problem with Obama. He doesn’t want to get out of the way. He wants to put in place policies that will effectively raise their taxes by as much as 40% which will ensure they can’t or won’t create the jobs necessary for people to feed their families. But not to worry, if he succeeds, there will be enough for the poor and newly working poor to remain on food stamps and receive government paid healthcare for their lifetime. As long as a person is good with sponging off others, that should work well for them. Not so much for those of us who believe in personal responsibility.

    Obama wants us all to “belong to the government” to the point that he thinks government should provide for our every need, including a one payer insurance system. He has said as much in several of his speeches to various groups. I for one don’t belong to anyone’s government. I am an individual who is solely responsible for all of my successes and failures and I’m good with that because then when I succeed I get to enjoy the benefits and when I fail, I am the only one who suffers for it.

    What I find interesting is that the dems want to blame the republicans for this mess when in fact, the dems have had control of congress for the majority of the years since the 1950s, of particular note are the years 2007 – 2010. Budgets and laws are set by congress, not the president and yet the dems throw up their hands and shout “it wasn’t me” when things fall apart. Maybe if they took responsibility for their screw-ups instead of trying to shift the blame to Bush and other republicans they might learn something and improve their record.

    Romney/Ryan 2012

    • 2 votes
    #1.73 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

    It's becoming obvious that Romney can't win unless he does two things:

    1) lays out the specifics of his tax and job plans

    2) releases his own tax returns

    Does he have the guts to do it? Or will he stick with the game plan he said he learned last time he ran for President?:
    "Don't give them any details to criticize."

    • 20 votes
    #1.74 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

    Old Rummey is toast and he knows it. I wonder if he will move back to Salt Lake City to be an Elder in his Mormon cultist church? I know of another political appointee of the same faith who quit his political appointment right when Rummey announced his candidacy to take a position as an Elder of the Church of Morons. Got to love these cultist creeps. They do hang together so as not to step on each others toes and do internal damage to their beloved boys club the Church of Morons. They are something for sure.

    • 12 votes
    #1.75 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

    Steven - that's such BS.

    The Republicans used the filibuster a RECORD number of times in the 111th Congress. They then took control of the House in the 112th and have proceeded to do NOTHING.

    Only 61 bills have passed Congress this year - the lowest number in over 60 years.

    While the Democrats supposedly had "control" of Congress from 2008 to 2010, they NEVER had the 60 votes to override a fiilbuster except for 24 days when both Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy were in their seats. For the rest of the time, the GOP said NO! to everything and got away with it.

    And now the Republicans desperately hope that the American people don't keep up enough to realize what they did so they can blame it on the Democrats.

    Well, here's some news for you, GNoP - we know.

    From USA Today:

    Just 61 bills have become law to date in 2012 out of 3,914 bills that have been introduced by lawmakers, or less than 2 percent of all proposed laws, according to a USA Today analysis of records since 1947 kept by the U.S. House Clerk's office.

    Congress' historically low approval ratings hit 10 percent Tuesday, according to Gallup polling.

    In 2011, after Republicans took control of the U.S. House, Congress passed just 90 bills into law. The only other year in which Congress failed to pass at least 125 laws was 1995.

    These statistics make the 112th Congress, covering 2011-12, the least productive two-year gathering on Capitol Hill since the end of World War II. Not even the 80th Congress, which President Harry S. Truman called the "do-nothing Congress" in 1948, passed as few laws as the current one, records show.

    The difference between 1995 and now is that Republicans rebounded in the second year of the 104th Congress in 1996, churning out 245 laws with a Democratic president, including a tax-cut package, a minimum-wage increase, an overhaul of the nation's welfare system, and requiring law enforcement to disclose where sex offenders live.

    • 12 votes
    #1.76 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

    2) releases his own tax returns

    Does he have the guts to do it? Or will he stick with the game plan he said he learned last time he ran for President?:
    "Don't give them any details to criticize."

    so you are ok with pressuring Obama to release his college transcripts right? Or is the devil in the details?

    LoL Sure enough. You made it

    I'll take your word for it. As for Witch-King, so Pelosi is going to be Obama's sidekick? Biden is in the wrong fairy tell, dopey was in Snow White.

    • 4 votes
    #1.77 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:04 PM EDT

    ntellect-1949393

    Old Rummey is toast and he knows it. I wonder if he will move back to Salt Lake City to be an Elder in his Mormon cultist church?

    a shock, a liberal religious bigot. whats next reverse racism

    • 3 votes
    #1.78 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:10 PM EDT

    If tax cuts worked to create jobs, we should have been SWIMMING in jobs by the time Bush left office.

    Instead, this was the CNN Money headline in Bush's last month of office:

    Job loss: Worst in 34 years

    Employers slashed 598,000 more jobs in January as unemployment rate climbed to 7.6%.

    The only way the GOP can win is LIE!

    • 14 votes
    #1.79 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

    Wow! Bill Clinton really could have been speaking of either Romney or Ryan last week when he said: You gotta hand it to someone who does it and then criticizes the exact same plan. And now Mitt says he can't erase the deficit in his 1st term? but, but, but - isn't President Obama supposed to ease the deficie in one term? Sorry Mitt, most of us know you don't get a double standard just cause you are part of the 1%.

    • 14 votes
    #1.80 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

    Releasing college transcripts vs. tax returns.

    Which of these two, obviously comparable issues (sarcasm) will be a topic of the 1st debate?

    Candidate Romney will either release additional years or allow it to be an issue for his opponents to attack for the remainder of the campaign. Which would help/hurt his chances of winning more?

    • 14 votes
    #1.81 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

    All the polls are suggesting is that the majority of Americans want 4 more years of lackadaisical non-performance from their President. After all, government that governs least governs best, eh? Perhaps the majority are really Libertarians, after all!

    • 3 votes
    #1.82 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

    Congratulations, caesar - you've bought the red herring!

    What grades someone got at age 20 has nothing to do with being President. And if it matters so much to you, Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law in 1991, so we know he had at least a 3.5 GPA at that point.

    But that's nothing but a diversionary tactic - caesar's red herring.

    Who pays your President, where he keeps his money and how much he pays in taxes DO matter.

    President Obama has released 11 years of tax returns. Eight when he was running for President, and three in the years since.

    And for good reason.

    Can you imagine the Republicans saying to Obama, "Never mind, Mr. President, we don't need to see your tax returns." ?????

    H Y P O C R I T E S

    • 18 votes
    #1.83 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

    dangerfield

    Releasing college transcripts vs. tax returns.

    Which of these two, obviously comparable issues (sarcasm) will be a topic of the 1st debate?

    me me me I have the answer. Neither and that is my point. Of course RealAmericans first say I bought into the red herring (isnt the tax returns a said red herring?). I've explained the tax returns, it won't sit well with the uber left (he's rich right?) Although it will be an issue as the far left paint being rich bad. Just ask George Clooney and Sean Penn and host of other richies that support the left but think being rich is bad. In short, pure stupidity.

    • 2 votes
    #1.84 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

    RealAmericansFirst

    It's becoming obvious that Romney can't win unless he does two things:

    Hmmm...I'd change those two things to "lie" and "suppress the vote".

    I'm counting on the good sense of the American people and their stubborn refusal to allow Romney to lie and buy his way into the White House.

    Thank you, Bev, for debunking all those lies that J.C. posted.

    RE-ELECT PRESIDENT OBAMA

    • 14 votes
    #1.85 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

    The GOP reminds me of the bunch of little boys who found some fireworks, lit them and stuffed them into the local gas station's storage tank.

    Then they ran away and watched it blow up from a hill.

    As the cleanup crew picked up the pieces, they ran back down the hill and said, "Wow, you sure made a mess!"

    "Can we have some of the leftover fireworks?"

    • 12 votes
    #1.86 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

    See, ceasar - the left has no problem with rich people who actually earn their money.

    We do have a problem with those who steal if from working people and then use their ill-gotten gains to legislate themselves into more riches.

    Now, tell us one more time what Mitt Romney did to "earn" $21.6 million from Bain last year?

    Of course, it might not actually be $21.6 million - could be $41.6. Since he hasn't released his 2011 tax return yet.

    • 15 votes
    #1.87 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

    Red head is losing her marbles again. I'm shocked!

    • 2 votes
    #1.88 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

    The Obama record:

    43 consecutive months of unemployment over 8%

    labor participation rate at lowest level in 30 years

    16 trillion dollar deficit increasing at over $1 trillion per year

    USA drops to 7th place in global competitiveness survey, we were #1 when Obama took office.

    Obamacare contains 21 new taxes built in to it and does not reduce healthcare cost or increase access.

    Legalizes over 2 million illegal aliens and circumvent congress to do so.

    High level national security leaks and release of Bin Laden info to favored media outlets

    Botched Fast and Furious operation resulting in deaths on both side of the border, Eric Holder cited for contempt by Congress for withholding relevant documents.

    No comprehensive immigration reform as promised in 2008 campaign

    No unemployment reduction as promised in 2008 campaign

    No improvement of transparency of government or elevation of political discourse as promised in 2008 campaign, in fact the exact opposite.

    Anybody that wants four more years of this is delusional.

    • 6 votes
    #1.89 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

    Here's a great chart:

    Public vs. Private Employment under Bush and Obama

    Here's a chart showing the growth of private employment (red line) and state/local/federal government employment (blue line) during the past two administrations. The government employment line has been shifted up so it starts at the same point as the private employment line.

    Under Bush, government employment increased by 1.7 million and private employment decreased by 0.6 million. Under Obama so far, government employment has decreased by 0.6 million and private employment has increased by 0.3 million. Just thought you'd like to know

    • 9 votes
    #1.90 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

    RealAmericansFirst

    See, ceasar - the left has no problem with rich people who actually earn their money.

    seeing as how you know something the rest of us don't, Larry Flint is offering a cool mil for the info.

    Of course, it might not actually be $21.6 million - could be $41.6. Since he hasn't released his 2011 tax return yet.

    so you're just making things up and attempting to pass them off as fact.

    • 2 votes
    #1.91 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

    So is Romney. And you're voting for him?

    Tell us what the "fact" is, caesar. How much money did Romney get from Bain last year? Or in 2009? Or during those years when he went to Salt Lake City and supposedly "retired".

    C'mon. Give us your facts.

    • 10 votes
    #1.92 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

    "While some voters will feel a bit of a sugar-high from the conventions, the basic structure of the race has not changed significantly. The reality of the Obama economy will reassert itself as the ultimate downfall of the Obama presidency, and Mitt Romney will win this race."

    TRANSLATION: " Our GOP voters did not get a sugar high from the GOP convention. They're still trying to figure out how to pay for their diabetes medications without Medicare. The basic structure of the race hasn't changed. We're still losing and even worse now. The reality of the Romney candidacy, with no specifics, and now flip-flopping on pre-existing conditions and dependent's coverage, depends solely on seeing the American economy tank faster than it did under George W. Bush. The GOP continues to hope for failure. That's the mainstay of our margin in the House. We believe the GOP love of failure will put Mitt Romney in the White House. If we add Switzerland and the Cayman Islands to the US, we'll have the electoral votes to do it."

    • 9 votes
    #1.93 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

    caesar - $21.6 million is the estimate Romney released for his 2011 income. If you don't believe it, I suggest you ask Mr. Romney to give us his tax return.

    • 9 votes
    #1.94 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:06 PM EDT

    This didn't happen in the United States, but the story it tells is international in scope;

    Last month, Suzy McLeod received the backing of more than half a million Facebook users after the airline charged her €300 (£236) to print out five boarding passes before a flight from Alicante to Bristol.

    Ms McLeod wrote on the social networking site: “I had previously checked in online but because I hadn't printed out the boarding passes, Ryanair charged me €60 per person! Meaning I had to pay €300 for them to print out a piece of paper! Please ‘like’ if you think that's unfair.” More than 500,000 people lent their support.

    But the Ryanair boss branded her “stupid” for falling foul of the airline’s boarding card reissue rules.

    “We think Mrs McLeod should pay 60 euros for being so stupid,” he said.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/9522191/Ryanair-boss-slams-idiot-who-forgot-boarding-pass.html

    In other words, not being able to find a place in a foreign country where she could print boarding passes on her own subjected Mrs McLeod to a $360 fine...and she deserved it. She's a mark, a rube, someone who DESERVES to be victimized for not being sufficiently careful.

    That's a common attitude for the CEO class these days. People who couldn't read, understand, and implement any one of the rules contained in DOZENS of pages of fine print deserve 30% and higher credit card interest for breaking those rules. People who believed their bankers when told that their mortgage was "a great deal you can easily afford" DESERVE to spend year after year in bankruptcy-enforced poverty, paying a trustee for homes they no longer have. People who have serious illness or sudden, catastrophic injury DESERVE to be paupers for the remainder of their lives for buying the wrong insurance, filing the paperwork incorrectly, having a preexisting condition, or exceeding their lifetime coverage caps.

    Fortunately that last scenario is now less likely thanks to the Affordable Care Act, but there's a common thread here;

    You DESERVE to be victimized by business.

    That's the reality that Mitt Romney represents. YOU are a rube. YOU are a mark. YOU are a target. The CEO class DESERVES to take what you have "if you're stupid."

    Here's the problem--once business DESERVES to act like carnival shills, DESERVES to sell snake oil, DESERVES to lure the unsuspecting into blind alleys known as "user agreements" and mug them we ALL deserve to be victimized. All that's required is to build the right trap for us and WE ALL DESERVE TO BE VICTIMIZED.

    So that's what we're voting for this November. Do you want a society that we all build together, a place of fairness where each of us is able to achieve whatever our abilities and ambition will allow? Vote for Barack Obama and the Democrats.

    Do you want a world where you have no expectation of fairness? One in which you'll never realize in advance when it'll be your turn to be victimized by those more powerful than yourself? One where your chances of falling on hard times increase steadily and the resources available for your recovery diminish rapidly?

    If that's your ideal world vote for Mitt Romney. He doesn't just represent that way of doing business, he embodies it. Just ask the folks who worked at Cambridge Industries, GS Industries, Ampad, DDi, Dade International, Anthony Crane, or Mothercare.

    • 9 votes
    #1.95 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:16 PM EDT

    Newhouse adds, "The key numbers in this election are the 43 straight months of 8% or higher unemployment, the 23 million Americans struggling to find work, and the 47 million Americans who are on food stamps."

    Then he added," That's why the GOP is putting itself forward as the party of unemployment benefits, job placement, and food stamps. It's probably unfortunate that we haven't supported any of these programs in the recent past, however. In fact, we've tried to cut them all..."

    • 9 votes
    #1.96 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:19 PM EDT

    Auger --

    If Obama releases his college transcripts on line at the exact same time Romney releases his last 10 years' worth of tax returns, which icon will you click first?

    And therein lies the difference in their importance.

    • 12 votes
    #1.97 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

    "...the basic structure of the race has not changed significantly..."

    That's exactly what Mitt Robme's problem is!

    Usually, nominees will get a "bump" in the polls when they name their running mate (it didn't happen for Robme), and they'll get another "bump" in the polls after their convention (it didn't happen for Robme).

    Now that's a great way for Republicans to say, Hey Mitt, we don't care for Paul "Medicare Voucher Demolition Plan" Ryan!"

    Mitt Robme is getting so desperate he's starting to repeat everything President Obama says because his teagagging hate-speech talking points aren't getting him any support. Even the teagaggers are losing their interest in old Etch-A-Sketch Robme!

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 12 votes
    #1.98 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

    I hope my faith in the American people will be renewed for another few years in November. I hope I see an America where lies, fabrications and dishonesty are not the traits of a candidate.

    We all know how politics and politicians are the province of liars and even the Democrats/Obama can throw a few lies and half-truths around too. But no where near to the level I have seen from camp Romney and those behind the secret campaign of lies.

    I watch completely and confoundedly in awe at just how deceitful the lies were told by Ryan at the RNC convention. And then to follow up on the interviews last week with all sorts of, "I meant this", deflections and more lies to try and cover.

    I know there are blind partisans who no matter how bad their candidate looks will still vote for Romney. But come on, some of you Republicans were honest and don't like it either.

    WHERE THE HE77 ARE YOU REPUBLICANS???

    I do hope my faith is renewed. I know you don't like Obama, but you don't like him so much that you'd rather sell your honesty out? Really?

    • 14 votes
    #1.99 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

    Remember how Mitt lied about the other Republicans.... The Republican debates were eye opening. Mitt hasn't changed at all but this time he's lying outside of his party.

    If you vote Mitt you vote for lies.

    • 12 votes
    #1.100 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:50 PM EDT

    Do you want a world where you have no expectation of fairness? One in which you'll never realize in advance when it'll be your turn to be victimized by those more powerful than yourself? One where your chances of falling on hard times increase steadily and the resources available for your recovery diminish rapidly?

    If that's your ideal world vote for Mitt Romney. He doesn't just represent that way of doing business, he embodies it. Just ask the folks who worked at Cambridge Industries, GS Industries, Ampad, DDi, Dade International, Anthony Crane, or Mothercare.

    Add Kay Bee Toys to that list.

    Excellent comment, John B.!

    • 8 votes
    #1.101 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

    RealAmericansFirst

    caesar - $21.6 million is the estimate Romney released for his 2011 income. If you don't believe it, I suggest you ask Mr. Romney to give us his tax return

    what if i dont care and it matters not? It does to you but it is irrelevant. It will be droned on and on by pundits and bloggers. Neither Romney or Obama will bring up either. Why? its poor form but as Dangerfield stated earlier, you think it will be the first question at the debates? (or along those lines)

    Anna Molly

    Auger --

    If Obama releases his college transcripts on line at the exact same time Romney releases his last 10 years' worth of tax returns, which icon will you click first?

    And therein lies the difference in their importance.

    Except Obama wont so lets stop with the hypothetics. Bottom line Romney is rich so you hate rich people cuz you're not? Wonder how many of you have had to lay people off.

    • 2 votes
    #1.102 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:08 PM EDT

    Bottom line Romney is rich so you hate rich people cuz you're not?

    So you're going on the assumption that people who hate Mitt do so because he's Rich and we're all after Rich people. :)

    Wonder how many of you have had to lay people off.

    I'm not a Catholic priest but I know pedophilia is wrong. Are you trying to make a logical connection? :D

    • 8 votes
    #1.103 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

    I'm worked up and happy. Mitt and the lying republicans who are bigots, racist, homophobic, zenophobic, anti-woman and anti-poor are going down!

    • 9 votes
    #1.104 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:18 PM EDT

    For those independants and Republicans leaning Dem. It's not enough to vote for Obama for president and then re-elect your local Republican congress person. The GOP has made it perfectly clear - if Romney isn't elected, they will do everything they can to make Obama fail - meaning they will sabotague every effort to put people back to work! They can scream "jobs, jobs, jobs," all they want, but they have no interest in providing jobs unless they can take credit for it. They did it for 4 years, they'll do it for 4 more!

    Oh, and love the comment about blaming the job creators for the jobless rate! They are indeed the ones who are withholding up to 40 trillion dollars from our economy, while they wait to see what who wins the next election, and what their best tax strategy will be. They call this a perfectly legal business strategy. It can also be called immoral, unpatriotic, and traitorous.

    If Obama and enough dems were to win the election, and they could put their economic platform in - then those 40 trillion dollars would all come rushing back into the economy - and there would be jobs a plenty for all.

    As for those who claim all the zillionaires will take their money and run - Bull cookies - the US is still the largest economy in the world - if they don't stay and play here, then they won't have the same protections and opportunities that American citizens and corporations enjoy - yeah, enjoy!

    Rise above the mucky, muck! Vote for what's best for all americans.

    • 10 votes
    #1.105 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:18 PM EDT

    Caesar, Did you read what Kr wrote? Probably not! The truth hurts man , it hurts like heck. Remember this former Young Republican has turned on his party for its extremism. Even my votes for Nixon, Goldwater and Reagan were for moderates compared to the new breed of right wing nuts!

    • 9 votes
    #1.106 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

    Don't you just love how those on the right were bragging about how the polls showed a tight race right after the RNC convention but now dismiss them after they show Obama leading by a greater margin?

    @ clwyd-2621393

    I hear you. The Republicans today scare the hell out of a person like me that has worked all his life to retire and hear these idiots calling the money I get from the contributions I made to SS all those years as entitlements.

    • 10 votes
    #1.107 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:33 PM EDT

    Well, I won't get too worked up about the polls (although I think they are bad news for Romney and what else is he going to say?) but that's really not Romney's biggest problem.

    Mr. Romney is viewed with suspicion by the hard right wing of the Republican party. They aren't sure he's conservative enough and may, in fact, be a moderate (gasp!) So any move to the middle will cost him their support and without them he'll lose the election.

    He chose Ryan as his VP to bump up his Conservative cred and he's got to worry about losing them.

    But...it's time to shake the etch-a-sketch and start moving towards the middle before the general election. If he doesn't he risks losing the independents and those members of both parties who are centrists. Without them he'll lose the election.

    It's a lose-lose situation with no good solution.

    It must suck to be Mitt Romney. No, really, I mean it, it must suck to be him.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 7 votes
    #1.108 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

    The $3 Billion Obama "outsourced to a Finland car company" would come in handy
    right now to help some black male youths in Ohio get a job. Why does Obama
    continue to pander to wealth, even foreign wealth, when American working men and women are suffering so?

    • 2 votes
    #1.109 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

    The Obamabots need to enjoy this while it lasts. Tonight, ABC News is interviewing Bob Woodward about his new book, "The Path to Prosperity," another unflattering depiction (a trend seems to be developing) of Obama's poor leadership skills and general incompetence. How much longer will they blindly follow Dear Leader, with no regard for his skillset, or lack thereof?

    Both Clinton and Reagan knew how to get things done,even when his party didn't control Congress. Obama simply doesn't know what he's doing; no wonder the blame-game is all he's got going for him...

    • 1 vote
    #1.110 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

    Mitt's business experience will turn this company around...I mean country. It's ironic that him breaking up companies, firing workers(which he loves), and outsourcing them to India, China, and Pakistan...then hiding assets offshore, is the very background he will use to get this company going again. Damn, I did it again...COUNTRY! I have to learn the difference between a company and a country...and so does Mitt.

    • 10 votes
    #1.111 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

    Not only does the Romney camp not want you to worry about polls, they also don't want you to worry about facts. They just want you to do what they want you to do. Please go to http://factcheck.org/ when they talk and do your homework. Anyone who votes based on talking points or commercials isn't fit to vote. PLEASE do your homework.

    OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!

    • 7 votes
    #1.112 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

    It seems to me that before last week when Romney was ahead, then the polls counted, as a matter of fact republicans can't wait to bring Rasmussen into the conversation which is a republican leaning poll every time. But now they don't count? Hmmm. Seems a little hypocritical to me. Oh yeah, hypocrite and republican should be one word. Hypocriticrepublican.

    • 8 votes
    #1.113 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:10 PM EDT
    Radcliffe4Deleted

    I guess the Republicans think people are not aware of the Mess they put our country into, We all know everything is not all that great as We would like but We all know there was NO way a disaster that took 8 years to create was going away in 4 years, Obama has stopped the train from going over the cliff the Republicans created and now it will take some time to pull it back over that cliff, so of course things would not change that greatly for their party, people are not as dumb as the Republicans hope, We don't listen to Talk Radio or view Fox News, so it's like a waste of spin, We are not going to buy into that BS Vote me in then I'll let you all know after I'm the President BS.

    • 5 votes
    #1.115 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

    Harley Chic

    The stimu-less was supposed to spark GDP, give us "shovel-ready jobs," green shoots, Recovery Summer, a ceiling of 8% unemployment, a CURRENT unemployment rate of 5.7%.

    Fail, fail, fail, fail, fail.

    Just stopping in to point out the dumbest thing I have read today. Most economists (you know - the people with brains who analyze markets and trends?) agree the stimulus was not only good - but should have been bigger. Lets see - who should I pay attention to? A rambling dolt on a message board or PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEIR TALKING ABOUT?

    Worse than fail, actually, since -- as the CBO and Greenspan noted -- the stimu-less reduced GDP over the next 10 years!

    Sorry. I seriously laughed out loud with this part of it. Alan Greenspan? The same "The markets will regulate themselves" Greenspan that ended up in front to of congress in 2008 eating crow in front of the world? No wonder your posts are so ridiculous. Look who you listen to for christs sake.

    • 5 votes
    #1.116 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

    Once the Presidential Debates start, Romney will falter. How can you get elected with no specific game plan? I bet that these debates are going to be a train wreck for Mitty and Pauly. I will be sure to watch them all this year.

    "We will work with Congress to close tax loopholes..." (Paul Ryan)

    My question is, what makes Mitty and Pauly believe that Congress will work with them? Really, wtf!?! Why can't Congress work with our current president to get this country back on track? Oh...., thats right..., its because he is a Democrat. I hope that the fact that Obama is black has nothing to do with it either. How sad would that be? God forbid a black Dem set this country right after a Redneck Republican douchbag wrecked it to begin with. This whole thing seems a little rigged, but that could be just me.

    • 2 votes
    #1.117 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

    I may be paranoid but I think we are going to have to be very very careful about tampering with the vote tallies. It's been done before and I wouldn't put it past the GOP to tamper with the results.

    • 6 votes
    #1.118 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

    Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

    Don't you and all your little cling-on dingleberries get your knickers all up in a bundle.....we know you need these kinds of little treats - moments of fortification for your failing confidence - to keep your team spirit up.........but everyone knows (maybe even you) that the only polls that matter are the ones that run during the last week or two (because the pollsters have to be truthful then - their reps. are on the line) before the elections and the final one on election day. But go ahead and have your little moments of glee - you all obviously need them.

    • 1 vote
    #1.119 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

    Trusting these polls will only leave a peron disapointed as most of these pollers call the same people. Should you get one calling you and you answer they want to put you on their list to call for future polls.

    • 2 votes
    #1.120 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

    Shock? Surprise?

    Anyone?

    Bueller? Bueller?

      #1.121 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

      The question is, do we want a government in which the greatest number of voters decides which way we go--or do we want a government dictated by the few billionaires who can buy an election?

      Do we want a government in which the commander-in-chief fails even to mention we're a nation at war, in his most significant address? Or do we want a president working towards ending that war, telling us exactly what, when, & how we'll go forward?

      Do we want a president who refuses to inform us about his policies, or do we want a president who actually has policies and can tell us about them effectively?

      Mitt Romney won't tell us anything real about himself or his would-be policies; he wants us to vote in the dark. His double-tiered strategy for winning consists of: 1) dumping on the the president's 4-year failure (although he also admits it will take 8-10 years--even for him--for our economy to be fixed) and 2) denying the vote to usually democratic voters--thats all he has.

      On the other hand, in his first two years, our president had Congress pass 386 bills--the 111th was the most productive Congress since the 1960s.

      Isn't it morally wrong for a political party in elected office to refuse to work with a sitting president?--hamstring him, then criticize his record? Well, it's also criminal

      As an attorney and retired criminal prosecutor, I think those republicans who met on his inauguration day and conspired to just say no to everything the president put forward committed a high crime while in public office: treason. I also believe those crimes can be proven in court beyond reasonable doubt, the standard of proof required in such cases.

      Of course, beginning with Nixon, we've consistently failed to hold our elected officials responsible for high crimes committed in public office. It's the primary reason our government's been highjacked by corporations.

        #1.122 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:10 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarTicked off in OhioExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Hey Feisty,

        Ya know a little penicillin should take care of your drip, drip, drip!!!!

        .

        • 1 vote
        #1.123 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

        You know the republicans are in trouble when the righties come here and start calling liberals names. No comments about the artical just start calling names and try and change the subject.

        Well here is some info for you. A couple months ago when Obama was up in the polls, we heard, its early Romney has time to give details about his plans. Then the polls switched and Romney was up and they said, see the polls show Obama is going to lose. Now the polls are for the pres again and they once again say dont pay attention to polls. The thing is guys, if the guy cant give us any details about how he is going to do the things he says he is going to do, then we dont vote for him. You see I dont drink the right wing kook-aid, I actually listen to what they are saying, and right now they are trying to say nothing specific. That speaks loud and clear that what they have planned is not what the people will want and for that reason Obama will have my vote.

        • 1 vote
        #1.124 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

        Ticked off in Ohio

        Hey Feisty,

        Ya know a little penicillin should take care of your drip, drip, drip!!!!

        Now that's funny!

          #1.125 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

          It is all about perception. The perception that the GOP wants to yank the safety net out from people when they most need it. The perception that the GOP would rather shove a theocracy down our throats by legislating womens health, by not allowing women equal pay for equal work, by wanting to have women raped by their doctors as in vaginal probes when they don't need it or want it. The perception that Romney will cut taxes on the super wealthy but close loopholes for them so the net result will be the same. That is going to bring more revenues? The perception those revenues will be made up by those loophole closures by not allowing tax deductions for average homeowners interest and less personal deductions. The perception Romney and Ryan wants to take us to war with RUSSIA?? And now we have a new perception, the perception that Romney is just a puppet. We all heard him say he would keep the pre-existing condition clause in the ACA (well in his NEW healthcare law) and now the party says he didn't mean that? YUP, we don't know who is running for president on the GOP side at all.

          Someone earlier suggested President Obama's bounce will wear off in a couple of weeks. OK, fine, just in time for the debates which I predict will be the finish of whoever is running in Romney's empty suit.

          It is all about perception.

          • 1 vote
          #1.126 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:09 PM EDT

          Did you guy's see that Video of the Guy giving Obama a Bear hug, he was a Republican he voted for Obama in 2008 and this up coming election he will vote for Obama again, I guess I was wrong about all Republicans being stupid and Racist, the guy was beyond happy and he was a pretty big guy, I bet the security team almost sh_t themselves, that was someone you would not want to meet up with in the dark .... I just though it was worth the mention that NOT EVERY Republican is an A-hole, Hell I have a lot of Republican friends We just don't discuss Politics, I guess that's why I have a lot of Republican views, nothing wrong with that, they have quite a few valid points which I share. OBAMA 2012

            #1.127 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:37 PM EDT

            rednawt3

            Sorry red.....that's something you've been told and you believe because your leader told you. But if you took the time to research you'd find that it just isn't true!

              #1.128 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:39 PM EDT

              I wonder when/if Romney will actually state his plan, aside from the "Ryan budget". He's avoided saying how he will pay for the $5 trillion tax cut for millionaires and billionaires...saying he's going to get rid of tax loopholes isn't an answer until he says how and what loopholes he would close. He flip-flops around on the ACA like a fish out of water...he should change his name to "Fish Romney". His foreign policy experience consists of insulting the British at the Olympics and calling Russia our biggest enemy and not al Queda.

              Time to go back to class, Mitt. Obama is going to school you in November...

              • 2 votes
              #1.129 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:22 PM EDT

              Romney refuses to release his tax returns for more than 2 yrs... REALLY?? In the year 2012 there is a guy arrogant enough to run for president without showing us his own finances? Absurd!!!!

              He can't win unless he does, but of course I strongly suspect that he won't release them because then he certainly couldn't win.

              Better voters just suspect your a crook rather than have direct proof of it.

              Obama 2012!

              • 2 votes
              #1.130 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:34 PM EDT

              What part would that be izzy? That perceptions count? I have not been told this by anyone. These are my perceptions, but I bet many would see it similarly. I perceive Mr. Romney, or should I say Governor Romney, is a bit of a flip flopper and that he is also being controlled by some other. You did not see Meet The Press Sunday? He would keep the provision for pre-existing conditions in his health care bill. And now the "party" says no. Did he come back and correct the "party"? I haven't heard it yet. This man is probably very likable, but I just can't trust someone who changes what he says not only daily, but sometimes hourly. Why can't he mention just ONE loophole he will close for the super wealthy after lowering their taxes once again that won't effect middle class workers? And how will this change anything if he can do that? The super wealthy will still have to pay their armies of CPA's and tax experts. Sounds like at best net neutral. Also, is he expecting insurance companies to make affordable insurance policies for people with legitimate pre-existing conditions? That would be like Scrooge awakening on Christmas Day.

              I perceive the GOP trying to legislate women's health-care. They have many different conditions than men have, some of which contraceptive therapy helps with. Because of this, I perceive them to legislating morality, in their eyes. And my perception of the GOP reinterpreting rape. There is nothing wrong with a rape victim getting an abortion if she wants. Or the morning after pill, which would be best, if she wants. Do you think the rapist will be paying child support? I don't think he will.

              These are just a few perceptions I have. I have many more as I am sure you can make perceptions about President Obama. The Democrats don't have all the answers. The republicans don't either. Why can't they work together for the American people and nation? It really comes down to weighing all these perceptions.

                #1.131 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:39 PM EDT

                Come on, DG_W, you know how Romney will fund more tax cuts for the rich--through Medicaid cuts, food stamp cuts and essentially ending Medicare. When private health insurance premiums get too costly and price most seniors out of the market, Medicare savings will help fund the tax break for the rich, and, of course it is easy for the repubs to get tax money for tax breaks for the rich from those who truly need help the most, the most vulnerable--poor children and infants and debilitated handicapped people and old seniors who will not be able to fight those cuts. These cuts and plans are all right there in Ryan's budget bills.

                • 1 vote
                #1.132 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:45 PM EDT

                The Romney - Ryan ticket is simply using smoke and mirrors to cloud every issue. It would be interesting to hear what their views really are instead of what their puppet masters want want us to hear. Rove could have hired robots and he would have had a better outcome.

                The 2012 Republican campaign will go down as one of the most mismanaged debacles in the history of the party.

                • 1 vote
                #1.133 - Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:44 AM EDT
                Reply
                kr-2875346Deleted

                Tough day at the salt mines, Fisty?

                OBAMA MOVES TO COPY GOP ON MEDICARE

                President Obama has for the past several months attacked Republicans for Paul Ryan's Medicare "voucher" plan but now that the DNC is over, he's waffled and is attempting a similar program through the HHS.

                In his convention speech in Charlotte, President Obama vowed to block the Republican Medicare reform plan because “no American should ever have to spend their golden years at the mercy of insurance companies.”

                But back in Washington, his Health and Human Services Department is launching a pilot program that would shift up to 2 million of the poorest and most-vulnerable seniors out of the federal Medicare program and into private health insurance plans overseen by the states.

                The administration has accepted applications from 18 states to participate in the program, which would give states money to purchase managed-care plans for people who are either disabled or poor enough to qualify for both Medicare and Medicaid. HHS approved the first state plan, one for Massachusetts, last month.

                The difference between the Ryan plan and Obama's HHS program is that seniors have thefree choice to opt in.

                Most states are proposing to automatically enroll people. Those who don’t want to participate would need to opt out. The Massachusetts plan includes that feature.

                Under Obama's plan, they do not, and in only a few states will seniors have to opt back in to their previous coverage. It's the poorest seniors who will be used as a test group for Obama's plan. Democrats will have to revise their "Ryan throwing randma off a cliff" strategy.

                http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/09/Obama-Copies-GOP-On-Medicare-Vouchers

                • 11 votes
                #3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:15 AM EDT

                Aw Poor Elliott - is someone on the defensive fence cause you found out mitt has been either lying about healthcare, or once again flip flopped about it? Sorry buddy, can't sugar coat what came out of Mitt's mouth and there is no way on earth to classify it as anything but a huge flip flop. I do believe he and Ryan have been campaigning on eliminating Obama Care/the ACA - didn't Romney say it was the first thing he'd elimiate the morning after he was sworn in? And now, he'll keep most of it, changing a few things, we don't know exactly what yet - but I'm guessing it will be to allow health insurance companies to go back to the good old days of holding claims for extra days, weeks, or even months before paying them, denying claims for pre-approved treatment, and denying care if it is deemed too expensive - pulling the plug on grandma and others just so the health insurance CEO's get a big bonus. Sorry, thanks, but no thanks, that dog just won't hunt. I've tried shopping in that store, I'm not buying what romney/ryan are selling.

                • 36 votes
                #3.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:23 AM EDT
                Comment author avatarHarley ChicExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                The President is simply "A Man With No Plan", his Cheshire Cat grin is all that will remain as he fades into oblivion. In the face of Europe's debt crisis and our own yawning budget gap he persists in falsely claiming that higher taxes on a small (and shrunken) component of the population is the cure.

                Sadly, he is a one trick pony and the legitimate if not wildly overhyped excitement over the election of a young and telegenic black President has given way to reality: he simply was too ideological, inexperienced, divisive and indecisive to lead this country.

                Romney-Ryan 2012

                • 12 votes
                #3.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:34 AM EDT

                The President is simply "A Man With No Plan"

                Yeah, that's why Romney goes into specifics on "Meet the Press"...oh wait.

                • 40 votes
                #3.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

                The republic cons are out in full force flooding the forums with their fake optimism and enthusiasm. Everyone knows the President is doing the job, and Wrongme is sitting on the sidelines jawing about how much better he could do it.

                Hey, if I was coaching the Pittsburgh Steelers last night, they'd have won 98 - 0.

                • 27 votes
                #3.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:52 AM EDT

                kr-2875346 - Just three words like Biden would say. Dream on.

                You just waisted space on FR.

                • 11 votes
                #3.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:55 AM EDT

                Just three words like Biden would say. Dream on.

                Here's my three words... OH MY GAWD!

                First Read, I am begging you to get the ignore author feature up and running again!

                You just waisted space on FR.

                Talk about irony!

                GIVE ME A BRAKE!

                • 22 votes
                #3.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

                You just waisted space on FR.

                LOL!

                • 19 votes
                #3.7 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:07 AM EDT

                The President is simply "A Man With No Plan", his Cheshire Cat grin is all that will remain as he fades into oblivion.

                Oddly enough we know Obama's plan, it's Mitt we're all unclear about. :)

                In the face of Europe's debt crisis and our own yawning budget gap he persists in falsely claiming that higher taxes on a small (and shrunken) component of the population is the cure.

                Small? LOL The RICH in American have 90% of the wealth in America.

                ATTN Folks. This just in, Republicans changed statistical math, 90% now is considered a statistical minority. :)

                Sadly, he is a one trick pony and the legitimate if not wildly overhyped excitement over the election of a young and telegenic black President has given way to reality: he simply was too ideological, inexperienced, divisive and indecisive to lead this country.

                Ah, so it's all about being Black. Well that settles it then now doesn't it. :)

                LOLZ

                Hardly Chic, word of advice. Wear a helmet. Next time you won't receive brain damage in a motorcycle wreck. :)

                • 18 votes
                #3.8 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:14 AM EDT

                Awwwe Xabre and Feisty, you beat me to it!!!! Great morning giggles ... and yes ... both Concern and Harley Chic so need to get back to being ignored!

                I don't which was funnier ... three words or waisted!

                • 15 votes
                #3.9 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:15 AM EDT

                aww Elliot .... you are quoting from Brietbart.

                You just lost credibility.

                • 14 votes
                #3.10 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:32 AM EDT

                I don't which was funnier ... three words or waisted!

                Rosetta Stone should be working on a "Blatina" edition, it is sure to be a best-seller! ☺

                • 16 votes
                #3.11 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

                Feisty - best seller for who? Spanish for Dummies????

                Isn't it sad she just keeps posting like she does and doesn't have enough sense to be embarrassed? But, she's following biker broad's lead - not a single fact but she's proud to shout her ignorance!

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 14 votes
                #3.12 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:08 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarCaesar Augustus-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                its funny how fisty picks on those that are not up 'to par' to its standards. Tell me fisty why dont you try that crap with me trailer trash. I didnt think so. What branch of service were you in again? you never answered? Now call on your attack chihuahua's.

                Yeah figured out which re-reg or pre-reg I am LOL. FAIL

                • 2 votes
                #3.13 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

                elliot-3020456

                Tough day at the salt mines, Fisty?

                Oh Nooooooo, you didn't. How could you go there? Briebart is obsessed with smearing our President Obama. Briebart.com is incredulous. After all the times he has been disproved: Shirley Sherrod, the fake pimp social security etc.

                More people are paying attention to GOP LIES and bigotry as evidenced by the polls and the fact that more new people have given to President Obama; in addition to President Obama out funding him.

                Fired Up

                4 more years

                Obama/Biden 2012


                • 15 votes
                #3.14 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

                Here's my three words... OH MY GAWD!

                I'm crying - blatina counts like every other GOP/TP politician - 2+2=5.

                Here are my 5 words - Holy Hell Help Us All

                May the 3 R's (reading, writing, arithmetic) prevail over the 2 R's (Romney/Ryan)

                • 11 votes
                #3.15 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

                Speaking of 'waisted', now we have pantywaist trailer-trash disgustus chiming in, all up in arms. Remind us again, disgustus, were you army, navy, air force, or just your run of the mill rent-a-cop in a golf cart brandishing a rubber-band gun?

                • 10 votes
                #3.16 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

                Just three words like Biden would say. Dream on.

                Yo Layton/Feisty - I think that is what is called a ceequell statement.

                • 6 votes
                #3.17 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:14 PM EDT

                RedDev ... Thanks for that! Still giggling and the 5 words and Rosetta Stone ... OMH!!!! (Sometimes you need a little laughter after spending Sunday morning yelling at all of the news programs!)

                • 7 votes
                #3.18 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

                Yo Layton/Feisty - I think that is what is called a ceequell statement.

                LMAO Red!

                "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein

                • 8 votes
                #3.19 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

                Hey, Elliot,

                Andrew Breitbart is DEAD (rest his soul, WHEREVER he may be)

                Why are you still quoting him so much?

                Playing Ouija?

                He was a liar and a despicable human being when he was alive, too, you know.

                In the hours immediately following Senator Ted Kennedy's death, Breitbart called Kennedy a "villain", a "duplicitous bastard", a "prick" and "a special pile of human excrement".

                • 10 votes
                #3.20 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

                Concern Citizen-856329

                kr-2875346 - Just three words like Biden would say. Dream on.

                You just waisted space on FR.

                Whatever it is you're smoking or drinking, please stay sober on election day or stay home.

                Your country will thank you!

                • 8 votes
                #3.21 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

                Honestly Layton, I thought I was the only one to do that... :)

                • 4 votes
                #3.22 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

                All republicans have is attacking the president. It would be nice if just one would explain what they like about Romney's plans and not simply arguing that Romney can't be worse. Is that really all they have?

                • 3 votes
                #3.23 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

                Harley Chic

                The President is simply "A Man With No Plan", his Cheshire Cat grin is all that will remain as he fades into oblivion. In the face of Europe's debt crisis and our own yawning budget gap he persists in falsely claiming that higher taxes on a small (and shrunken) component of the population is the cure.

                Shrunken component? Are you on drugs? OH NOES!!1! The US isnt turning out millions of millionaires each year. Boo - hooo.... cry me a river.

                Higher taxes on wealthy Americans will decrease deficits. That is a fact. Coupled with some spending cuts and we can have an adult conversation about it. You are too far gone for an intelligent discussion.

                • 2 votes
                #3.24 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:21 PM EDT

                Absolutely false, Elliott. Ryan's budget calls for massive decreases in both Medicaid and Food stamp funding--that would crush all the poorest seniors along with the poorest infants and children and even handicapped people or else crush state budgets while trying to make up the difference. In Ryan's first budget bill from 2011 (the one without the Democrat kindness influence of a choice for traditional Medicare--remember, that one?) the voucher would have averaged only $600 in 2022 to pay for a product that would probably cost (based on calculations of average policies for 64-year-olds in 2010 with 10% annual healthcare inflation as has been) over $1500 per month in 2022. That is not affordable for very long for most seniors, and the voucher value would constantly be decreasing because its value would not increase in relation to the actual inflation of healthcare. Both bills are moot points now, but Ryan would likely pick his own, the first harsh bill with no traditional Medicare choice, as that was from the Democrat's input. Fact remains, privatizing Medicare is Ryan's baby, and private health insurance coverage for seniors failed before Ryan was even born; that is why Medicare was begun. The many age-related conditions and diseases are too costly of a liability for private insurance, and they will price most seniors out of the market even with the pitiful Ryan vouchers. And actually Obama's ACA would make up any difference for any poor seniors or otherwise.

                • 3 votes
                #3.25 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:59 PM EDT
                Reply

                Wonder how worked up Mitt's campaign would be if the numbers were reversed? Just asking, but we all know it is true - the only real and accurate poll is the one on election day. We will keep working for President Obama - be sure to register to vote, register as many people as you can, and in states with new voter ID laws - get those folks to the DMV for a photo ID. That is what we have done in Tennessee and stand a better than excellent chance of picking up an extra state house seat in November! Yippiee.

                Obama/Biden 2012

                Hillary 2016

                • 34 votes
                Reply#4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:16 AM EDT

                A campaign build on LIES will always crash! Bye Bye Willard and co.

                • 29 votes
                #4.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:48 AM EDT

                Don't boo. Vote.

                • 22 votes
                #4.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:52 AM EDT

                Mitt Romney will win this race."

                I see the Willard camp is still in denial,

                • 20 votes
                #4.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

                This voter ID thing cuts both ways. I don't think they have figured that out. The GOP is constantly in denial and can't see two sides to anything. With the ID requirement I suspect it will hit both parties but the party of No is not willing to believe that they will need ID, only dems need it right?? Ha Ha, I am suspecting it will actually catch more "do nothing" GOP voters than progressive Dems!!

                Yep Al, Denial always means you get bit in the but because you can't see it coming.

                • 7 votes
                #4.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

                Union,

                good input on the voter ID. All people voting should be required to have photo ID.

                Can we pull Hillary into this election and do away with Obama? I am still waiting for Gitmo to close. So disappointing.

                • 2 votes
                #4.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

                "Mitt Romney will win this race."

                ...with a time of about 2 hours and fifty minutes, maybe??? :)

                Look out, Mittens. Your pal Ryan's pants are on fire too.

                Two burning butts!

                good input on the voter ID. All people voting should be required to have photo ID.

                Great idea...when are you going to take your 93-year-old great-grandma down to the DMV to get her photo ID? Have you forgotten that she quit driving when she was 87?

                Or maybe you think her vote shouldn't count anymore beacuse she's a woman and a senior?

                Good luck trying to steal the election from the American people!

                OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

                • 3 votes
                #4.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

                Sandy, and that 8-10 years is after OBAMA stopped the train wreck, So how bad was BUSH's mess up and they want another try, HELL NO !!!!!!! Oh I all most forgot Romney is pass Bankrupting companies he has out grow that one so NOW he wants to shoot for a whole country, got to admit he has aspirations.

                  #4.7 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:02 PM EDT
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                  winning congressional votes on issues was an unprecedented 96.7% for his first year in office.

                  And he had such a battle doing it. Oh wait, no he didn't. His party controlled both branches. See how easy that was? Can't block anything in his first year. That would make you a racist.

                  • 7 votes
                  Reply#5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

                  Get rid of the tea scum and watch this country move FORWARD!

                  • 27 votes
                  #5.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

                  pud-2552338

                  Get rid of the tea scum and watch this country move FORWARD!

                  Forward without direction Brilliant. Do you do that with your car in your garage too?

                  • 2 votes
                  #5.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

                  Dang... I smell Fiesty and she stinks, and Realameridork, Unionbabyloser, and bjob 1. I even think Amy from Portland is stinking up the place. I thought this post had a stinch..lmao

                  • 1 vote
                  #5.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

                  See how easy that was? Can't block anything in his first year.

                  Yet another case of denial... ever hear of the filibuster? did you realize the Republicans used it more than any time previously in history - by a huge margin?

                  Oh, yeah geee! Anyone that pays any attention knows that you can't possibly pass a law with the Republican filibuster blockade constantly in place.

                  • 2 votes
                  #5.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:06 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  I think the republicans are finally seeing the writing on the wall. They know they are going to los big time.

                  • 27 votes
                  Reply#6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

                  All I can say, is it's about time America woke up to the BS coming from republicans! Vote a straight Democratic ticket!

                  • 25 votes
                  #6.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:50 AM EDT

                  I think the election has already been bought and paid for so Romney will win. HOPE NOT GOOD BYE MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY

                  • 4 votes
                  #6.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

                  Clayton: The one thing the Republicans cannot buy is your VOTE. Vote a straight democratic ticket. Once the Teabags fade away, we can roll up our sleeves and get this nation moving again. We can pass the Jobs bill the House has refused to vote on for 1-1/2 years, and also the Transportation bill, hung up in Congress for a year. Those two laws proposed by our president, once enacted, will provide 3 million and 1-1/2 million jobs, respectively --better paying jobs than those coming up in the past three years. And those hired will be paying taxes again.

                  We can get government out of our bedrooms and our uteruses--and quit trying to legislate morality by overturning settled law (Roe v. Wade) supported by a huge majority.

                  We need to give President Obama a democratic Congress--let's win this thing!

                  Obama/Biden and a Democratic Congress like the 111th (2009-2010) in November!

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

                  Los big time.. Retard..

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:42 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  "Don't get too worked up about the latest polling." - Neil Newhouse

                  "Remain calm. All is well" - Chip Diller, Animal House

                  • 24 votes
                  Reply#7 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:18 AM EDT

                  "I won't reduce taxes on rich people" OMG who does this clown think he is fooling?!?!

                  • 20 votes
                  #7.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:51 AM EDT

                  Let the vote counters be the last fact-checkers for the republic cons.

                  • 16 votes
                  #7.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

                  "We place absolute confidence in the Titanic. We believe the boat is unsinkable." -

                  White Star Line Vice-President P.A.S. Franklin (after the ship was already on the ocean floor)

                  • 16 votes
                  #7.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:05 AM EDT

                  I feel almost sorry for them. In the face of the poll numbers and seeing that the voter suppression isn't going to work as well as planned, they see Romney as losing but what are they supposed to say? If they admit that, the fund-raising will evaporate (and there go their salaries) and the down-ballot candidates will lose as well due to turnout. So they have no choice but to soldier on (sorry to use the word soldier in connection with the Romney campaign---I've now made more mention of our soldiers than Romney did at his convention).

                  • 11 votes
                  #7.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

                  Keep vetting our dog eating, cocaine doing, pot smoking president!!!! Thanks

                  • 1 vote
                  #7.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

                  "I will close Gitmo in my first year of office."

                  "I will reduce the deficit by fifty percent in my first term."

                  "You didn't build that!"

                  "The individual mandate in Obamacare is a penalty, NOT a tax"

                  Barack Hussein Obama, 2008-2012

                  Reflecting on four of his biggest lies. What a joke. He is a baldfaced liar. LOLOLOL

                    #7.6 - Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:59 PM EDT
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                    It must be that whole denying G_D and Jerusalem thing...I know that always gets me excited! :/

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#8 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:24 AM EDT

                    The Dems put God back in their platform.

                    The GOP platform takes

                    God Out

                    of victims of rape choice.

                    • 8 votes
                    #8.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:23 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    the only folks getting worked up is mitt's camp-- or should i say panicked

                    • 18 votes
                    Reply#9 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:26 AM EDT

                    Mitt Romney likes to say he won't "apologize" for his success in business. But what he never says is "thank you" – to the American people – for the federal bailout of Bain & Company that made so much of his outsize wealth possible.

                    According to the candidate's mythology, Romney took leave of his duties at the private equity firm Bain Capital in 1990 and rode in on a white horse to lead a swift restructuring of Bain & Company, preventing the collapse of the consulting firm where his career began. When The Boston Globe reported on the rescue at the time of his Senate run against Ted Kennedy, campaign aides spun Romney as the wizard behind a "long-shot miracle," bragging that he had "saved bank depositors all over the country $30 million when he saved Bain & Company."

                    In fact, government documents on the bailout obtained byRolling Stone show that the legend crafted by Romney is basically a lie. The federal records, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, reveal that Romney's initial rescue attempt at Bain & Company was actually a disaster – leaving the firm so financially strapped that it had "no value as a going concern." Even worse, the federal bailout ultimately engineered by Romney screwed the FDIC – the bank insurance system backed by taxpayers –out of at least $10 million. And in an added insult, Romney rewarded top executives at Bain with hefty bonuses at the very moment that he was demanding his handout from the feds.

                    • 1 vote
                    #9.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

                    Larry: You're right. And--do you know, Ryan's already asked for fed money from the Affordable Health Care Act for his district? From one side of their mouths to the other....

                    Somebody here wanted to know the difference between Romney changing his mind and Obama--why is Romney criticized when Obama is praised for 'evolving?'

                    The difference is simple: Romney and Ryan contradict themselves--and each other--in the same speech! Wait--no--in the SAME SENTENCE! We can see, on the other hand, Obama's slow-moving, naturally evolving stance, for example, on same-sex equality. It feels genuine.

                    Is there anything--besides his wealth--that feels genuine about Romney?

                      #9.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:42 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      The main Obama route to victory is that he's being honest with the American people.

                      • 30 votes
                      Reply#10 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:27 AM EDT
                      Comment author avatarDonna Riesvia Facebook

                      He's honest with the American people?? Telling us that things are getting better, when all the numbers clearly show we are in trouble? How is that being honest???

                      • 7 votes
                      #10.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:33 AM EDT

                      Telling us that things are getting better, when all the numbers clearly show we are in trouble?

                      Like what Donna? All the numbers I see point to improvement.

                      • 27 votes
                      #10.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:39 AM EDT

                      SteveR-2067355

                      I agree. When I saw the President's acceptance speech at the convention, it sounded to me like he was preparing America for the challenges we will face in the next four years. He wasn't promising us a rose garden. He wasn't whipping up his base - it was an "earthbound" speech, as one pundit called it.

                      • 21 votes
                      #10.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

                      I've said it before: If you TRULY believe that times were better 4 years ago, please use your magic tea dust to go back in time. We will all be better off! It's the same magic tea dust that RMoney promises to create all the miraculous jobs.

                      • 21 votes
                      #10.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

                      Umm, sure he is??? Really?? You are dumb...Thanks

                        #10.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:51 PM EDT
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                        How can the Republicans expect anything different; when their idea of running the country means running the people who dont fit into their mold- which is most of the country.

                        • 11 votes
                        Reply#11 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:34 AM EDT

                        no @!$%#, because most of the country wants a handout, we all know what that party is. We all know who preaches it best too.

                        • 5 votes
                        #11.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:08 AM EDT

                        because most of the country wants a handout, we all know what that party is. We all know who preaches it best too.

                        Oh, I thought you were talking about corporations and military contractors...my bad!

                        P.S. Which states use the most federal "welfare" again? I seem to have forgotten.

                        • 19 votes
                        #11.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:20 AM EDT

                        no I am talking about welfare, food stamps, etc. Oh by the way, most farmers I know are Dems. Live in the heart of the Midwest, so what were you saying?? Way to take out farmers from your comment. You guys are funny!

                        • 4 votes
                        #11.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

                        Xabre, you forgot all of those oil subsidies . . . .

                        • 11 votes
                        #11.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:25 AM EDT

                        Oh by the way, most farmers I know are Dems.

                        Live in the heart of the Midwest,

                        This is from 2008.

                        http://grist.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/2008-county-electoral-map.jpg

                        I'll leave it at that.

                        Xabre, you forgot all of those oil subsidies . . . .

                        Bah! I need more coffee T_T

                        • 10 votes
                        #11.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

                        Unless it has changed in recent years back when I was a boy I lived on a farm in Ohio and all the farmers but us were Republicans Still live in a rural area in Florida not on a farm and I am the only Democrat aroung

                        • 4 votes
                        #11.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:48 AM EDT

                        Handouts

                        Do you know how many GOP Congress members get Farm Subsidies?

                        • 9 votes
                        #11.7 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:53 AM EDT
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                        GOP knew way back when they didn't have a snowball's chance in Hades to win. That's why none of the serious candidates decided to run.

                        • 18 votes
                        Reply#12 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

                        I agree. I thought, in the spring, with the field of the ten GOP goofies, that they weren't serious about getting to the WH; just going though the motions. Obviously Mitt had the most money and lasted the longest. He probably didn't expect to do well in the general....otherwise he'd have some type of plan or general outline for the future. Platitudes and Obama blaming doesn't get you votes Mr. Romney. Give us an outline, some type of vision....other than the 'Obama blah-blah-blah' crap you've been shoveling so far. SAY SOMETHING.

                        • 14 votes
                        #12.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:17 AM EDT

                        The single thing that stands out to me the most is in the last two GOP contests, the other candidates body language and some comments showed a pretty clear dislike for Mitt. Come on, when the other guys ON YOUR OWN TEAM don't like or trust him, don't some of you wonder?

                        • 6 votes
                        #12.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:09 PM EDT

                        The Congress sees a lot of information we don't and I think the Republicans not only think but they know, that this Presidents policies are working so they are on a "get out the misinformation" campaign that is on steriods. Mostly a lot of lies.

                        Has anyone else noticed that the 12 million jobs Mitt said he would create in his first four years were already projected under the Presidents present policies. Nice of him to take credit for something he would have had nothing to do with. I guess we can add that to his list character flaws. Trying to take another mans credit. I guess lying isn't enough.

                        • 4 votes
                        #12.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                        bckrd1: But we know Romney likes to take credit for the next guy's actual work! Remember how he "would've let the auto industry go bankrupt?" (his words) Then he actually said he felt he could take "much of the credit"(his words) for what Obama did? Anybody buy that??

                        If Romney had ANY KIND OF A PLAN other than denying voting rights to dems and spending a billion on deceptive ads cutting down the president, he might've been a realistic candidate. As it is, Romney's nothing more than the right-handed empty suit Grover Norquist and a few other billionaires want to sign his (their) legislation.

                        Which makes Romney extremely dangerous for our nation--

                        • 2 votes
                        #12.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:53 PM EDT
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                        Try try again...

                        Defeat from the jaws of victory dept.

                        So can someone explain why the race is so close, with the unemployment rate over 8% with the legislative gridlock in Washington, and the threat of the "financial cliff" the country faces in January?

                        Consumer confidence is in the 60 percentile and no President has won reelection when it was below NINETY-FIVE percent.

                        With those numbers the Republican candidate should be ahead if not well ahead on the week after the conventions. Why is this race so close?

                        • 8 votes
                        #13 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:39 AM EDT

                        Do the calcified positions and simplex rhetoric of the two sides represented here make the actual discussion of any issue devolve into infantile insult fests and one liners?

                        • 4 votes
                        #13.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:42 AM EDT

                        I'll give it a try, dangerfield, if you are serious about a discussion without insults.

                        Some of it is that the country is polarized into two political camps that are about evenly divided. You aren't going to shift the position of those folks, no matter what you do.

                        Some of it is suspicion about Romney's inability to stick to one position, without shifting it almost immediately when he gets challenged on it.

                        I believe (and you may accuse me of being partisan here) it is simply that the Romney's don't wear well. They appear to be utterly divorced from the reality of the challenges that most people live with. Ann Romney in particular, with her "you people" and finger shaking is off putting.

                        I also think that there is some genuine affection for President Obama, and the feeling that he has been treated unfairly by the far right.

                        The biggest problem? Romney is not making his case well, muddies it up with the weather vane approach that he takes.

                        That is my 2 cents. Hope it provides the discussion you were seeking.

                        • 22 votes
                        #13.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

                        I think hiding tax returns and not having a plan with 57 days left before the election is hurting. It should. Romney thinks he can waltz in and buy the office, and then start getting his picture taken looking all Presidential. Ann would be busy redecorating and overseeing the car elevator installations.

                        Just like private school where money buys everything. Willard, world. World, Willard.

                        Reality. It is not just for tv anymore.

                        • 15 votes
                        #13.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:09 AM EDT

                        New, it's also due to the fact that Romney hasn't proposed anything that people believe will create jobs quickly.

                        On most other issues (social, foreign policy), Obama has an advantage. On this one, Romney can't or won't articulate the one policy that people say "yeah, that will work". If he could, he'd be well ahead. I think people now realize that there is a limit to what government can or should do, and we've hit the limit.

                        • 16 votes
                        #13.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:09 AM EDT

                        You both make good points. The biggest problem I see with the Romney campaign is his insistence on keeping "secret" what he will do when he is elected. He wants the public to trust him, and then says that if he tells what he would do, he won't be elected.

                        Interesting way to run a campaign, and I think it will cost him.

                        The social issues are a definite negative for the Republicans.

                        • 15 votes
                        #13.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:14 AM EDT

                        Newday-

                        It's a start...;-)

                        It isn't about being partisan, it's about being open and honest. There are lots of liberals and conservatives and whatever falls in between who have spirited exchanges of ideas and opinions, RESPECTFULLY.

                        Liberals LOVE America

                        Conservatives LOVE America

                        But there is disagreement about how best to govern the country and the general philosophy and the policies that we choose to make for a more "perfect union"

                        I have said that this election "feels" like 2004, with a generally unpopular incumbent versus a ponderous, stiff challenger. The difference is that President Bush had a (then) thriving economy, ultra-high consumer confidence, and a low unemployment rate.

                        Is it the President's "likeability" or Romney's "otherness" and lack of that same likeability that has this race so close, or are folks waiting to see what they look like on stage together in October? How large do the debates, and especially the first debate, loom in moving the needle?

                        • 5 votes
                        #13.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:17 AM EDT

                        his insistence on keeping "secret" what he will do when he is elected.

                        I don't mean to pile on, but....keeping secret? Or not knowing what to do, after he's elected?

                        • 9 votes
                        #13.7 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:23 AM EDT

                        What you have said, dangerfield , is exactly the problem that I see. Neither side will agree that the other loves America. Instead of the "loyal opposition", we treat each other as the enemy, and believe me, I am not excluding myself from this.

                        If we all started with a position of love of country, it would eliminate the "my way or the highway" attitude that is getting in the way of solving the problems.

                        Will the debates change things? Not sure. I honestly do not believe that Romney was challenged in the primary debates. His colleagues were trying to take each other down, and not attack the putative front runner. So Romney may be weakened by that.

                        President Obama? He can generally be quite good in the debate process, when the chips are down. Does he see the that the pressure is on?

                        We will learn that after the first debate. May tell the story, or the story might continue on....

                        • 13 votes
                        #13.8 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

                        Anybody see this weeks Bill Mahr? He had a GOP strategist that had interesting things to say.

                        • 2 votes
                        #13.9 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

                        Dangerfield,

                        Although I agree that his election has a striking similarity to 2004, I don't think you can judge it through the prism of modern presidentital elections and look a things like Unemployment and Consumer Confidence.

                        The Great Recession was the worst economic period since the Great Depression, and the President in power at the time is given the majority of the blame by the Amrerican public. Also, most major indicators have improved dramatically since the depths of the recession, so although things are not good they ARE better than they were in 2009.

                        My one-sentence answer?

                        I think the election is close because independents and swing voters don't totally blame President Obama for the current economic situation, and don't entirely trust Mitt Romney to fix it.

                        NDD-

                        Neither side will agree that the other loves America. Instead of the "loyal opposition", we treat each other as the enemy,

                        I don't disagree with your statement, and I admire the fact that you accept some responsibilty on the Democratic side.

                        Although I agree both sides are partisan, I strongly believe that the majority of the hatred and division comes from the Republican side.

                        Democrats may argue policies and even question other's intelligence, but Republicans are the first to question patrotism.

                        Rmeber, Republicans have questioned President Obama's citizenship, patriotism, and religion. That is unprecedented in modern history.

                        • 13 votes
                        #13.10 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

                        Newday,

                        That is a big part of the problem. Rowing in different directions only makes you go around in circles. The question is how to get at least some of the "statesmen and women in congress to care more about the good of the country and less about their own fortunes and petty single issue constituencies.

                        The Simpson Bowles commission was the perfect illustration of what it will take to right the economy over the long term, and the ridiculous transformation of their bipartisan recommendations into a political football by both sides, neither of whom are capable of actually embracing, let alone implementing the total package, is a perfect example of why we are stuck in the mud....

                        • 6 votes
                        #13.11 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

                        his insistence on keeping "secret" what he will do when he is elected. He wants the public to trust him,

                        NewDay - to top that, he is also secretive about his taxes. Somehow we are to trust his prior tax returns are just peachy-keen.

                        Well Romney, if that is so, why won't you release them?

                        • 10 votes
                        #13.12 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:34 PM EDT

                        I think another factor is that Romney says his Bain experience qualifies him to be President but that people have come to associate Bain and Romney with outsourcing. Anyone who is in fear of losing his/her job (or a loved one's job) dreads outsourcing.

                        • 8 votes
                        #13.13 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:35 PM EDT

                        TNSEVOL:I believe that the intransigence is mostly on the Republican side just now. I can't remember a time (and I am an ex Republican, who worked in party politics) that a party said it was job one to win the next election, instead of doing what is necessary for country. Having said that, I don't think Reid is particularly good at bringing folks together either. Both sides need to quit throwing bombs at the other.

                        dangerfield: The Democrats have been seen as weak in the past, because they have supported Republican positions, especially in a time of emergency. Compromise and negotiation are pejoratives now, when that used to be the way things got done.

                        Can we make the tough decisions and support the party in power when they have to do things that aren't particularly palatable? Nope. That political football starts flying.

                        Which brings us right back to the problem...how can we solve these problems and not take political advantage?

                        My answer? I just don't know. As silly as it sounds, I wish the administration and Congress would go back to having a bump after work, and see each other as people instead of the enemy.

                        So, as you can see, I am not being particularly helpful in solving the problem. Wish I could.

                        • 11 votes
                        #13.14 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

                        Guys, Excellent Discourse.. I did enjoy the sides discussing the problems and not doing Swoop and Poops...

                        I can fix the problem, but I'm just not so sure about pulling a monkey out of my butt....

                        • 3 votes
                        #13.15 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:44 PM EDT

                        dangerfield: Excellent discussion! But I question your statement:

                        no President has won reelection when it was below NINETY-FIVE percent.

                        The 'it' you were referring to was consumer confidence. I doubt that consumer confidence has always been 95% or above when an incumbent was re-elected.

                        Can you please provide us with a source?

                        Thanks for acknowledging we all love our country. I believe it's the democrats who want us to be moving together as a whole, and the Republicans who mostly promote hatred and division.

                        But I also think without the interference of corporations, the Republicans would not be so keen to play 'divide and conquer.'

                        It's in everybody's best interests to get corporate influence out of government altogether. We start by taking corporate money, in election campaigns and lobbying, out of the equation.

                        We saw at the RNC all those corporate banners flying high--fed almost exclusively by corporate machinery,the Republican Party will not work for this.

                        Therefore our best hope is with a democratic president and a democratic, undivided Congress.

                        • 2 votes
                        #13.16 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:06 PM EDT

                        Really good points, Dee Turner, thanks for adding them.

                        It is clear the Citizens United has changed politics and not for the best.

                        • 3 votes
                        #13.17 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:48 PM EDT
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                        "The key numbers in this election are the 43 straight months of 8% or higher unemployment, the 23 million Americans struggling to find work, and the 47 million Americans who are on food stamps."

                        I just love how the concern for the unemployed just oozes out of Republicans right up until it comes time to reauthorize unemployment benefits. In a blink those "poor, suffering unemployed that can't find jobs" are transformed into lazy, shiftless parasites that won't take one of the many jobs available out there because they would rather sit in their hammock made from government safety net.

                        • 18 votes
                        Reply#14 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

                        Dont pay attention to any polls correct? lololololololololololololol If you dont see it then its not true lolololololololol The 19% chance to win is an illusion lololololololololol Its the "Lame Stream Media" lololololololololololololol

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#15 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

                        Pissedoffperson - you DO know your post makes you look very disturbed, right????

                        • 3 votes
                        #15.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

                        And?

                          #15.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:27 PM EDT
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                          Ignore the polls. Ignore the Republican notion of smaller government means they decide who marries and if you have to give birth. Ignore the tax cuts to the rich and the tax hikes on the rest of us. Ignore that women can be bought, as the Repub Veep said that they will ignore their rights as long as you promise them a job. Ignore that Romney doesn't really have a plan to produce jobs, other than to give tax cuts to the rich and hope they will spend the money on their workers. Ignore that he believes that God spoke to Josepeh Smith throuh Joe's hat to form the Mormon church. Ignore that "pro life" means to get rid of health care. You have to ignore a lot to vote Republican, but 1/2 the people are willing to do it and the rest of us better not ignore it! Don't ignore the disaster that will result from having Carl Rove back in the White House. Carl Rove was our last President, do you really want him and Willard being the next?

                          • 13 votes
                          Reply#16 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:54 AM EDT
                          Comment author avatarTopDrumExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                          Barack Obama:

                          Alias Barry Soetoro pawns himself as Barack Obama, the humanitarian, the POTUS, the campaign for hope and change. But we know better. Barry is a radical Marxist who was raised by Communist parents and Communist grandparents. His mentors were known Communists, his contacts in college were strictly Marxists supporters, Marxist professors and a group of Pakistani activists as stated in his book, "Dreams From My Father".

                          Barack Obama, tell us about Frank Marshall Davis or Bill Ayers. Surely you remember Mr. Davis. After all, your mother knew him all too well. Mr. Ayers, a known terrorist, responsible for at least a dozen bombings, helped your early Illinois campaign by raising money, thru his organization Underground Weather. Davis, a well known Communist. Tell us about your trip to Pakistan ('81) with Pakistani Wahid Hamid.

                          Share with us your ideals of socialism, after all you're a member of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), referred as the "New Party". Please tell us why you have been influenced by the writings of Karl Marx, the prelude to Communism. Share with us your association with Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Do you justify this man's message by condemning our country by saying, "God bless America? No, God Damn America"? Was this a forethought supporting your belief in Marxism?

                          United States of America………………you didn't build it Barack Obama.

                          • 8 votes
                          Reply#17 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

                          well that strategy didn't work in 2008....but hey "Top Drum" - give it another spin!

                          • 13 votes
                          #17.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:12 AM EDT

                          Please up your medication dosage before you have a "HaterAid" seizure.

                          • 8 votes
                          #17.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:20 AM EDT

                          It looks like President Obama has received a pretty Big Bouce after the NNC Convention.

                          The newest research from Nate has it as the NOV 6 factors:

                          “Obama chance of winning 80.7% Romney 19.3%”

                          “Projected Winner Obama 318.8”

                          “Projected Loser Romney 219.2”

                          However, if the election was being voted in “Now Cast” Today:

                          Totals

                          “Obama chance of winning 83.0% Romney 17.0%”

                          “Projected Winner Obama 308.5”

                          “Projected Loser Romney 229.5”

                          • 9 votes
                          #17.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:48 AM EDT

                          Yo Top Dumb - Why don't you tell us which policies sway you to support Romney/Ryan, rather than simply calling Obama a socialist. Obama as a socialist/Marxist blah, blah, blah have been so thoroughly debunked, they aren't even worth further discussion.

                          Now I realize you may find that hard, considering over the weekend Romney said he wants to repeal Obamacare but implement Romneycare, that he wants to cut taxes on the rich without cutting taxes on the rich, that he wants to increase defense spending even though the GOP cut defense spending, and although he wants to eliminate abortions, he won't overturn Roe v. Wade.

                          • 9 votes
                          #17.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

                          .Obama the promise BREAKER!! Equals a LIAR!!! BIG EMBARRASSMENT to the USA!!!

                          Obama’s promise that his healthcare proposals would “never be purchased with [a] tax increase on middle-class families.” The SUPREME COURT & JUSTICE DEPT say it is a TAX!!! .Attack on the middle Class! Taxation by misrepresentation---the LARGEST TAX in World History!!! Does he remove the tax part????....NO!!!

                          …….…NOW Obama wants to invade Syria and Iran!!!

                          ..mr. American businessman..YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT!! It was stolen from the back of the worker---PURE MARXISM!!...this is PURE

                          …ANTI-American…tell it to Ford or Steve Jobs or the Mom& POP store on the corner>>>How is it that NON taxpayers built an Infrastructure??

                          Remember these?
                          THE OBAMA CHRONICLES:
                          “I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
                          “I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
                          “I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
                          “I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
                          “I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
                          "I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."
                          “I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
                          “I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
                          "I'll close Guantanamo."
                          "I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
                          "I'll unite the people of this great country."

                          “The TROOPS will be home for CHRISTMAS.” WHY ARE MORE LEAVING EVERYDAY???? AND DYING every day…

                          NOW Obama invokes Executive Privilege( as a Sen. called it’s use a RUSE!) for Holder on GUN SMUGGLING and killing US Agent Brain Terry!!! That only applies if Obama was part of it!! Obama & Holder should be on trial for giving Machine Guns to the Mexican Drug cartels!!
                          BETTER KNOWN AS LIES.
                          Fool me once shame on YOU!
                          Fool me twice shame on ME!

                          Even Joe BIDEN has endorsed ROMNEY for Prez!!!!

                          BozoHussan=Chicago MOB politics=NBC=GE= no taxes from the bought and paid for cronies ==twist every crises toward Pravda PressPROPAGANDA!!

                            #17.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:49 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            We're not worked up about it. We already know Obama is going to win!

                            Romney/Ryan 1040

                            OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

                            • 13 votes
                            Reply#18 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

                            We will have Barry and Moochele scrubbing the white house clean for Mitt in January..

                              #18.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:48 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              Sorry Willard, your supporters and all republicans are already worked up about the the latest polling numbers. Heck they've been worked up ever sense you were nominated.I use the word supporters loosely, they're really President Obama haters.

                              • 16 votes
                              Reply#19 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:00 AM EDT

                              No-681343

                              You make the point I see on this blog every day: the rightwingers have nothing good to say about their own candidate. Even Chris Christie barely mentioned Romney - and he gave the keynote address to the Republican convention!

                              • 14 votes
                              #19.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:16 AM EDT

                              I think you're right, Amy. It was obvious in the primary that repub's weren't happy with their choices. But Mitt had the most money so he made it to be 'last man standing'. The subsequent endorsements were bland and soft, at best.

                              Of course repub's don't want Obama to win, unfortunately they have to support a basically unknown Romney-Ryan ticket. In essences...they're not able to vote FOR something they believe in....they have only to vote AGAINST Obama. It'll be interesting to see if many repub's fail to show up, in November.

                              • 14 votes
                              #19.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:34 AM EDT

                              Hey, I'm not sure if Mitt made it because he had the most money, but he was certainly the nasiest GOP candidate in their primaries! I think he simply bullied his way to the top of the heap.

                              • 12 votes
                              #19.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:17 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              That's Ok Neil, um cool with the poll!

                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#20 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:02 AM EDT

                              Of course I'm worked up because I'm tired of being worked over by the gop's minions.

                              Obama 2012

                              • 13 votes
                              Reply#21 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:08 AM EDT

                              The Dems have a party and the NATIONAL DEBT hits $$$16 TRILLION..they can not even count all the zeros in that crazy number!!...talk about a National DISASTER!!! Have Jimmy Fallon explain how many somollians, claims, bucks, dough, bread, etc that is to our baby -minded obama!! THE BABY Obama DOES NOT WANT MORE JOBS, MORE ECONOMY GROWTH!!!

                              obama says he would grade himself 'incomplete'...in my school that was an ..F !! You did not try, you Failed !! Again, twist the truth. Chicago MOBpolitics!!

                              How many" black chidder-rhen "were murdered while Rahm spoke??!! Another great leader..NOT!!

                              Like Eastwood said, We the people hired you, you have not done the job, now it is time to Fire you!!

                              Mouchweelll talked about a rusty beat -up car that Barry Soetoro drove while they were dating, and tried to make it sound OK that with high gas prices and no jobs , Americans can not drive at all!!..Her dad made the equivalent of $$300K in the 70’s and they let their daughter get in such a rust heap??.DOES NOT EQUATE!!!..Danger, /Danger Will Robinson!!!

                              obama had shoes too small??? He was working for a law firm in Chicago..SaY WHAT?!!! Why are both obamas disbarred?!! Lavish vacations at tax payer expense and $$500 tennis shoes!!!??talk about her big beer arms and nothing about her LARGE french-fry rear!!

                              She did not say what conversations she 'valued' from Barry's father, Frank M. Davis, the Marxist pornographer in Hawaii. Dreams of my father....or of Barry's brother George still living in a hut in Kenya!!

                              Dems take GOD out of their platform, of course, obama is the messiah, why look to a faith-filled God??

                              they read letters from the peasants while they feast at the tax funded, Chief prepared expensive meals..regular Americans could not afford one of those meals a year, much less nightly!! talk about how bad We the PEOPLE have it, REALLY!!.. Let them EAT cake, right?!! where does Mr. Prez get his news?? On the golf course while drinking with Biden?!! If they were to tell the truth, it should have been, people are writing to the Prez. about how he has dismantled the Middle-Class, ruined the economy, people a losing homes and jobs, HE needs to STOP what he is doing!!

                              • 1 vote
                              #21.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:18 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              "Don't get too worked up about the latest polling," Newhbouse writes in the memo.

                              To this I would add: Don't pay any attention to the man who went on record saying "We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers"

                              • 17 votes
                              Reply#22 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:10 AM EDT

                              Both the quote you used, as well as your comment reminds me of the Wiz of Oz. Where the GOP is saying....'don't mind with what's behind the curtain'. As if to imply...'don't believe in polls and don't believe in facts....just 'trust me' lol.

                              • 10 votes
                              #22.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:39 AM EDT
                              Reply

                              You can tell Romney/Ryan are getting more and more desperate. They are lying more, avoiding questions more and flip flopping more toward the center.

                              • 18 votes
                              Reply#24 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:12 AM EDT

                              Good. The more lies the better. I think, and hope, that these lies will finally be their undoing. Karl Rove at his best, may be failing this time. God I hope so.

                              • 3 votes
                              #24.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:21 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              I don't trust Romney at all. I do not believe for one minute that he and Ann ate at an ironing board or used a door on saw horses as a desk. He ran from his responsibility to his country to go to France to promote his religion. He lied about his state of residency in 2002 when he ran for Gov. of Mass.. He uses his religion to hide his tax returns. Ryan is no better, voting for every deficit busting bill Bush wanted, like not taxing and spending is ever so much better. I have nothing against Ann, she is just doing what any good wife would do. Michelle on the other hand is more believable telling her history with her husband. They came from the middle class and didn't have all the advantages of the Romney family's money. I do not begrudge the money they have, I just hate the fact that they do not seem to understand the options that money gives them. It is not the wealth I have an issue with, it is the fact that they can not relate to most of America because of it. I also cannot stand the smirk on Romney's face all the time, like he knows the election can be bought for him. Sad, so many direct quotes from republicans about voter rights stomped on so he has a better shot. What about a better shot for a majority of us?

                              • 19 votes
                              Reply#25 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

                              wow....you are pathetic

                              • 1 vote
                              #25.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                              Where do you buy your tinfoil hats?

                              • 1 vote
                              #25.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

                              .Obama the promise BREAKER!! Equals a LIAR!!! BIG EMBARRASSMENT to the USA!!!

                              Obama’s promise that his healthcare proposals would “never be purchased with [a] tax increase on middle-class families.” The SUPREME COURT & JUSTICE DEPT say it is a TAX!!! .Attack on the middle Class! Taxation by misrepresentation---the LARGEST TAX in World History!!! Does he remove the tax part????....NO!!!

                              …….…NOW Obama wants to invade Syria and Iran!!!

                              ..mr. American businessman..YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT!! It was stolen from the back of the worker---PURE MARXISM!!...this is PURE

                              …ANTI-American…tell it to Ford or Steve Jobs or the Mom& POP store on the corner>>>How is it that NON taxpayers built an Infrastructure??

                              Remember these?
                              THE OBAMA CHRONICLES:
                              “I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
                              “I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
                              “I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
                              “I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
                              “I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
                              "I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."
                              “I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
                              “I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
                              "I'll close Guantanamo."
                              "I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
                              "I'll unite the people of this great country."

                              “The TROOPS will be home for CHRISTMAS.” WHY ARE MORE LEAVING EVERYDAY???? AND DYING every day…

                              NOW Obama invokes Executive Privilege( as a Sen. called it’s use a RUSE!) for Holder on GUN SMUGGLING and killing US Agent Brain Terry!!! That only applies if Obama was part of it!! Obama & Holder should be on trial for giving Machine Guns to the Mexican Drug cartels!!
                              BETTER KNOWN AS LIES.
                              Fool me once shame on YOU!
                              Fool me twice shame on ME!

                              Even Joe BIDEN has endorsed ROMNEY for Prez!!!!

                              BozoHussan=Chicago MOB politics=NBC=GE= no taxes from the bought and paid for cronies ==twist every crises toward Pravda PressPROPAGANDA!!

                              • 3 votes
                              #25.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

                              Oh please.

                              • 2 votes
                              #25.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:49 PM EDT

                              The paid Trolls are out in force.

                              "I don't care if Mittwitt don't relate to me"

                              "I know he can fix this economy"

                              Who talks like that but a buffoon.

                              The GDP has fallen 8.9% worse than any recession in history. And Mittwitt solution is to give 5 Trillion more dollars to the rich and this buffoon calls that a fix. NO ignorant azz that would put us more in debt which is why Mittwitt wont tell you how he will pay for it.

                              President Obama 2012

                              • 7 votes
                              #25.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

                              You'd take the "cool" smooth talker with bad ideas that have NOT worked...at all...over a dorky rich guy that has proven he can take things that are failing and turn them around. Obama got elected without having a lick of experience in turning anything around and what do you know...he's done a terrible job. We're just as bad off as we were before he was elected only now we're 5 trillion more in debt. Wow Thanks Obama! So glad we elected a community organizer into office.

                              • 1 vote
                              #25.7 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:48 PM EDT

                              And he believes that when he dies he will get to rule and populate a planet. Come on... really? Look at the WHOLE man. I have, and there is NOTHING there that even comes close to convincing me he has the economic savvy, the foreign policy, or the ethics to do what's best for this country.

                              • 4 votes
                              #25.8 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

                              Thats seriously laughable Watching. So then you looked at the WHOLE Obama picture and saw something better? hah! His brilliance has landed us where exactly?

                              Things have gotten no where on ANY front. The Country is more partisan, more divided. Less transparent. More in debt (by a startling degree). More people on welfare. More on disability. He's had to count 'jobs saved' to try and make it look like the numbers aren't so terribly bad. Even with that the numbers haven't gone anywhere and yet like an oblivious child he says that "the private sector is doing just fine". He chose the worst time to force clean energy and health care on a system that was already teetering instead of focusing on the immediate issues that really needed to be solved. He waited three plus years to even acknowledge in some slight way that the jobs situation sucks and put forward a @!$%#ty jobs plan that not even his OWN party would vote for. He is SOOO savvy its staggering. Hah hah hah!

                                #25.9 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

                                Just think if Obama does get re-elected????? Just look at the mess he will inherit!!!!!

                                  #25.10 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

                                  Make that up all by yourself?

                                    #25.11 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:30 PM EDT

                                    SRAGAN - President Obama will continue to make progress for America in spite of those Republicans who would see him fail even if they must sacrifice the America citizen...secondly, what is a slut lover like you doing in a thread like this if not trolling and espousing your nonsense.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #25.12 - Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:38 AM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    Obama presidency, and Mitt Romney will win this race we all on this, the usa dont have time to chanage presidency it will be like start again.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    Reply#26 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:20 AM EDT

                                    Romney camp? With all that super-pac money they should be in a nice hotel

                                    • 1 vote
                                    Reply#27 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:21 AM EDT
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