Biden: Romney can't say which loopholes he'd close to lower taxes

 

MILFORD, OH – Citing Mitt Romney's appearance on NBC's Meet the Press earlier in the day, Vice President Joe Biden took aim Sunday at Romney's failure to name specific tax loopholes he would close to lower taxes and balance the budget.

"He said that he's gonna pay for all these tax cuts by closing the loopholes, but when asked by Mr. Gregory what loopholes he'd close, he couldn't name one," Biden told a crowd of 700 supporters at a western Ohio high school. 

"All this has a giant price tag and it's not going to come from closing loopholes for millionaires," he added. 


On NBC, host David Gregory asked Romney to specify how he would eliminate tax deductions and exceptions in order to compensate for the enormous financial consequences of his deep tax cut proposals. 

Romney responded only by noting that "people at the high end" would have fewer opportunities for tax exemptions, but he declined to pinpoint any specific numbers or policies. 

“High income taxpayers are going to have fewer deductions and exemptions... Those numbers are going to come down. Otherwise, they'd get a tax break. And I want to make sure people understand, despite what the Democrats said at their convention. I am not reducing taxes on high income taxpayers. I'm bringing down the rate of taxation, but also bringing down deductions and exemptions at the high end so the revenues stay the same, the taxes people pay stay the same. Middle income people are going to get a break. But at the high end, the tax coming in stays the same. But we encourage small business, because small business is able to keep more of what it makes and therefore hire more people, which is my priority.”

The stop in Clermont County, a heavily-Republican area that supported John McCain by a 2-1 margin in 2008, was Biden's final campaign event of a two-day swing through Ohio. He will return to the Buckeye State next Wednesday to campaign in Dayton.

 

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Its simple, Mitt can't say because he will either flip flop on it or tell a LIE about it!!! What a set of TOOLS!!!!! MIT & Cryin -lyin RYAN

    Reply#224 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

    Of course Mitty has no specifics and he has no plan other than hope that there is enough hate for Obama in the country to propel Mittens into the White House.

    Romney is pretty much an empty head. His only claim to fame is that he was born into money. Romney is proof that having lots of money is no useful indicator of intelligence.

      Reply#225 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

      And does your pole dancing provide income. You are barely as smart as the pole.

        #225.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

        Romney donated his inheritance to charity, worked as gov with no pay, and the Olympics with no pay. What is Obama's Specifics? Besides he needs more time... it's Bushes fault...... job growth that can't even keep up with our population growth. He can't throw any more money at things and hope it gets better, he just stagnated the economy with borrow and pretend it's stimulus that will create jobs. I don't want another program that the US can not pay for.

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        #225.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:32 PM EDT
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        There is no debth to Romney and this works fine as long as you live your life in a world that is filled with "yes men" but that would be a disaster as Pres> and I think that was George W. biggest problems. His probably could not would not say no even when they needed to.

          Reply#226 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

          ARE YOU STILL RUNNING AGAINST GW Bush? HINT: He can't EVER run for President AGAIN.

            #226.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:58 PM EDT
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            Why is it that obama and bite-me know all about what Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan are planning to do to us, yet obama and bite-me haven't articulated the slightest thing that they intend to do either for or to us? Except RAISE TAXES! RAISE TAXES! RAISE TAXES!

              Reply#227 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

              pull your head out of the sand and you might be able to hear something besides the romney/ryan drivel

                #227.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:44 PM EDT
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                that's right, Romney can't say which loop hole to close. we should take it on faith that this corporate raider and serial flip flopper will do whats right for the middle-class and poor. lets make a guess about some of what he will do. cancel obama-care, give the rich and corporations your money, invade Iran, instead of pulling out put more troops into Afghanistan, reduce or eliminate women's reproductive rights, get rid of social security and medicare and Medicaid, deport all immigrants, pore tax money into vouchers for alternative schools who have not been shown to be anymore effective than public schools (another words encourage discrimination), no wonder Romney can't discuss his true plans.

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                Reply#228 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

                You're so used to obama lying to you that you can't fathom that ssomeone else may be telling the truth. obama's a LAWYER. HE LIES with every breath.

                  #228.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

                  DAWN, Eat your heart out, this nation is rapidly learning about what a shameless, flip flopper your party's candidate is. ALL politicians deflect and equivicate, that's a given. But I have never, ever seen one who is as shamelessly shallow and opportunistic, regardless of party or ideology as your boy Willard. This guy believes in NOTHING, his only concern is advancing himself. And if you doubt me, I suggest you take a look at his record in Massachussetts. He termed himself a "PROGRESSIVE" but evidently has now evolved into someone who is "Severely Conservative". Go figure.

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                  #228.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:08 PM EDT

                  Insipid, I thought we scared you away a month ago.

                  I hope he is CONSERVATIVE. I'm tired of your SOCIALIST PROGRESSIVES trying to play Robin Hood (and being only robbin' hoods) with my money.

                    #228.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:15 PM EDT

                    DawnV: Come on, old girl, calm down. Stop your addiction to fox and you won't be nearly as high strung ... and WRONG. All the nonsense they are feeding you is giving you intellectual melt dosn. Did you read that university study that showed the more that people watch fox the less accurate is their view of reality. So please stop with all the name calling and give us some facts. Like how Romney bankrupted companies, stole pension money, sent jobs overseas, destroyed records, "saved" the Olympics with $1.5BILLION in tax money. You know, stuff like that there.

                      #228.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

                      Lake Elsewhere Man,

                      alli I see from you are bumpersticker bytes copied directly out of the Official DNC Talking Points Coloring Book. Have you ever had an original thought?

                        #228.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

                        DawnV: As two presidents have said "There you go again." Your man Romney is a failure. Oh wait, that's not original. His record shows that. Your man Ronmey is a liar. Crap! Not original again because that is shown by his endorsed ads where he, well, lies. Your man Romney is a flip flopper being on different sides of so many issues it's hard to keep track of them all, Oh, but wait, that's not original because it's a matter of public record. Your man Romney is ... I guess I can't be original since I only rely on facts. You got me there DawnV. I guess only the CONServatives can be original since they invent all their "facts"

                          #228.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:28 PM EDT

                          How do you gage failure lakerman2 if making million of dollars and being a sucessful business man is a failure I would hate to see your definition of Obama because he is the ultimate failure.

                            #228.7 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

                            If unemployment is 8% and 23million ppl are out of work that mean more than 200million ppl have jobs so why would that make him a failure

                              #228.8 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

                              You are kidding,right? and the number is much higher than 8%. They do not even know how to count those who gave up or those who supposedly retired early.
                              .

                                #228.9 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:29 PM EDT
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                                You can be sure it won't be any loopholes that will affect him or his rich cronies.

                                  Reply#229 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

                                  BFD Biden is an idiot and people kind of ignore anything thyis loser says! However, the rest of the far left liberal nuts keep harping on Romney and his success because the are jealous and too lazy to work hard and become successful themselves. Romney knows how to create jobs while the current morons running our country don't know how to do anything to help the citizens except blame others for their own failures.

                                  I get sick to my stomach when happen to tune in to one of the mainstream media sites and here idiots like Nora O'Donnell interview someone like Paul Ryan and when he tries to answer the question, she like other journalists or hosts become combative and never listen to the answer anyway. However, when they have the liberal idiot like Plouffe they are very intentive and let them speak until the time is up!

                                  One real idiot is Tamara Holder who would be a great running mate for BFD Biden in 2046 or 2080. These losers don't know what fair and balance means!

                                  Now the polls are indicating Obama and Biden are ahead of Romney but it ain't over until the the fat lady (Pelosi) sings!!

                                  A prime example of the latte suckups is Jun06 who makes stupid comments about Romney because she is very locked into her welfare check and wants to keep it forever!! Good luck Jun, keep licking the food stamps!!

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                                  Reply#230 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

                                  Rick: Thank you SO much for showing us the depth of CONServative thought. BTW, ANY comment about Romney is stupid because Ronmen is the epitome of stupid.

                                    #230.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

                                    If all democrats are on welfare, then all Republicans are moonpie eating racists from a Hooterville trailer park.

                                    Stereotypes work both ways, don't they?

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                                    #230.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:42 PM EDT

                                    You want all journalists to be Republican lap dogs like on Fox?

                                    Governor Romney, what's your favorite color?

                                      #230.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:54 PM EDT

                                      You mean the lap dogs like Maddow, Matthews, Sharpton and Bashir? MSNBC is no longer a creditable news source.

                                        #230.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:31 PM EDT
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                                        Joe Biden goes after the biker vote! Hopefully, you have all seen Joe Biden with the biker chick on his lap as she laughs and Biden whispers in her ear. You will also notice the looks on the faces of the two bikers watching. It was reported that Biden was asking the lady what she would do in chains!

                                          Reply#231 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

                                          In other words, what she would do if Romney was President.

                                            #231.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

                                            Most of the "bikers" you seen on Harleys these days are lawyers, accountants, and doctors, and probably Republicans. Harleys are expensive.

                                              #231.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

                                              I own a harley and im a democrat. guess that comment has no basis whatsoever.

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                                              #231.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

                                              My point is that riding a Harley and wearing a cut off jean jacket with some pins on it doesn't make you a "biker".

                                              Besides, I said "most", not "all." Did you miss that part?

                                                #231.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:36 PM EDT

                                                Do you think the Hell's Angels are big Obama fans? I'm guessing not.

                                                  #231.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

                                                  Sam, I think you should ask them. Just guessing but they propably like him. He really is a good guy. Likes Harley as a business in WI.

                                                    #231.6 - Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:52 AM EDT
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                                                    In the immortal words of Rick "Ni66erhead" Perry, "Oops".

                                                      Reply#232 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

                                                      DAWN, sorry honey, I ain't going anywhere. And I find it interesting that you refuse to address the specifics of my post. It is common knowledge that Willard has no spine. And even many currently serving Republicans in Congress have acknowledged the fact that Mitt has taken 3 or more positions on any given subject.

                                                      He was for abortion before he was against it.

                                                      He as for gun control before he was against it.

                                                      He was for Gay rights ......................

                                                      He was for the minimum wage..............

                                                      He was for the "Path to Citizenship" for illegals before........

                                                      He was against the Bush Tax Cuts before........

                                                      He opposed the Grover Norquest tax pledge before.........

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                                                      #233 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

                                                      Intrepid why dont you try to talk about all of Obama's non exisitent policies. We are still waiting for Obama to tell us his plan to fix the economy which in 4 years he still does not have a plan.

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                                                      #233.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:40 PM EDT

                                                      usaf: you mean the jobs bill that Obama sent to Congress ONE YEAR AGO that is being held up by Ryan and Cantor. The Rublicans have been obstructing recovery for 4 years so they can make Obama look bad. The Republicans have been hurting the American economy and Americans so they can defeat Obama and grab more power.

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                                                      #233.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

                                                      How about all the bills the Senate is sitting on lakerman. Nothing personal what goes around comes around.

                                                        #233.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

                                                        And what bills would those be?

                                                          #233.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

                                                          30 bills lakerman that Harry Reid is sitiing on and refuses to vote on. You Democrats are Hypocritical.

                                                            #233.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

                                                            USAF, How about your respond to the specific points in my post? And I've got a lot more of them. You won't respond because you can't respond, all of my points are FACTS. And I'll repeat, many CONSERVATIVE members of Congress feel the same way about him. They don't trust him and they accuse him of flip flopping all the time and for once in their lives, they happen to be right.

                                                              #233.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

                                                              I dont think so Obama has been president for 4 years where is his plan I am tired of this bulls hit from you liberals where is Obama's plan.

                                                                #233.7 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

                                                                usaf: And which 30 bills would those be? 30 is FAR LESS than the over 100 filibusters the Republicans pulled in one year of Obama's presidency. And that is counting the judges that the Republicans have refused to confirm. And it also doesn't include the jobs bills the Republicans SAID they were going to propose in order to win the 2010 elections and the intervening time have done everything BUT jobs.

                                                                  #233.8 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

                                                                  Lakerman your an idiot Reid has refused to vote on any bill put forth by the house Reid is sitting on 30 bills quite a few which would help the economy, you cant have it both ways.

                                                                    #233.9 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:00 PM EDT

                                                                    Give it a break Lakerman you are full of @!$%#. You didnt even know that Democrats where holding bills and not voting on them and it proves how narrow minded liberals are.

                                                                      #233.10 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

                                                                      Where are the jobs where is the plan to fix the economy 4 years still waiting.

                                                                        #233.11 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

                                                                        So, no response at all to the original post USAF50?

                                                                        You're okay with Romney's flip flops?

                                                                        ..and if you don't have an answer to that question, don't bother responding with, "but what about Obama's <whatever>"

                                                                          #233.12 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

                                                                          Romney flip flops and Obama evolves. The difference is?

                                                                            #233.13 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

                                                                            It's one thing to change your mind on an issue. It's something else to completely change your position on EVERYTHING because the tea party demands it, or because Rick Santorum was kicking your as s.

                                                                              #233.14 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:57 PM EDT

                                                                              Hay USAF

                                                                              Every one of those bills have nothing to do with jobs. Each and everyone of them is about killing "Obama Care", the EPA, Department of Education, XL Pipeline, which the Republican governors don't want because of the potential problems and damage to their state. Defund Planned Parenthood, etc. They are incapable of sending a clean bill anywhere. They are dishonest pretenders who are ripping the American public off by excepting their paychecks.

                                                                              If you had actually researched these bills you would know this you ignorant jerk. As usual all you can do is spew lies, hatred and BS on the vine. If you really were in the USAF what rank did you rocket to, E-2, E-3? Or did you never get above E-1.

                                                                                #233.15 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:27 PM EDT

                                                                                Same for the Democrats. The bill are ammended with junk....mostly so it will not pass.

                                                                                  #233.16 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:36 PM EDT
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                                                                                  Its a FACT (something cons dont let get in their way) that the obstructionist party of NO and jobs,jobs,jobs (meaning abortion) refused to pass the jobs bill which wouldve created 2 million jobs. But they wouldnt pass it unless they could attach an abortion bill or a defund family planning services bill to. Romney/Ryan/Rove/Koch are all one trick ponies. Its ALL about the economy to them. Untill they get into office then its ALL about the social issues which they say now are not the issue! You women want a government mandated vagi probe? Then vote Romney and you'll get one! Because women are just too stupid to know how to make a decision without the government mandating one for them

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                                                                                  Reply#234 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

                                                                                  A total a$$.

                                                                                    #234.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:38 PM EDT
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                                                                                    Why dont you talk about all of Obama's non existent policies to fix the economy. We are still waiting on Obama's plan 4 years and nothing.

                                                                                      Reply#235 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

                                                                                      You mean the jobs bill that Obama sent to congress ONE YEAR ago that Ryan and Cantor are blocking?

                                                                                        #235.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

                                                                                        You mean the bill Democrats wont even vote for.

                                                                                          #235.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

                                                                                          Why would anyone assume that any individual bill should pass just because? If they ALL would STOP adding partisans amendments maybe something would get done.

                                                                                            #235.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

                                                                                            USAF

                                                                                            The discussion is about Romney. Try to stay on subject. That's all you can do, try to steer the topic your way.

                                                                                              #235.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:30 PM EDT

                                                                                              The bills are crap. Loaded with nonsensical amendments. It is political meaning designed to not br acceptable so fingers can be pointed.

                                                                                                #235.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

                                                                                                lakerman2

                                                                                                Do you even know what's in the jobs bill?

                                                                                                My personal least favorite; federal aid to pay for a public servant's salary. It's like I offer you a down payment and 12 mortgage payments; what are you going to do for the next 29 years?

                                                                                                Local governments get to keep someone for a year, but then is still on the hook for future salaries and benefits. So taxes will go up or jobs will be cut.

                                                                                                  #235.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:33 PM EDT
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                                                                                                  4 years no plan if you liberals think he is going to be able to continue with out telling us his plan you have another thing coming.

                                                                                                    Reply#236 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

                                                                                                    In one ear out the other with you cons. Theres more to this election than just the economy. And your tool romney fails on every level with all of them.

                                                                                                      #236.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

                                                                                                      You should have listened to his acceptence speach, Mittens. Instead of putting your fingers in your ears and chanting "I can't hear you, I can't hear you."

                                                                                                        #236.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

                                                                                                        So being a sucessful business man is a failure compared to a community organizer who has failed at every level.

                                                                                                          #236.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

                                                                                                          usaf: successful? if you define success as making yourself rich while impoverishing others, destroying records to cover up what you have actually been doing, keeping your money in offshore tax havens while you "offshore" the jobs of people you have thrown out of work then Romney is a "success". You must be getting paid a lot to support this loser.

                                                                                                          BTW, Romney has NEVER been a businessman. He was a vulture capitalist and that is all he ever was.

                                                                                                            #236.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

                                                                                                            You know lakerman popularity and whether you have the intelligence to do the job are two different things. Obama does not have the intelligence to run the economy but he is really popular for with trailor trash welfare liberals and Hollywood leftest trash.

                                                                                                              #236.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

                                                                                                              Oh thats rich! Lets see...a sucessful business man. Yes thats true. And Obama failed in his sucessfulness how? The man was elected by Americans to the highest office in the country! Oh i know...you'll just spew more drivel about his failures. But you go on and spin it...Romney will still lose in Nov. Hes bought and paid for by the koch bros and intellegent people know it.

                                                                                                                #236.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

                                                                                                                The rich the rich you sound like Tattoo from fantasy island.

                                                                                                                  #236.7 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

                                                                                                                  And you sound brain dead. Your comments are all the same. Another con with nothing new

                                                                                                                    #236.8 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

                                                                                                                    As Bill Clinton said, this is the biggest fairy tale ever!

                                                                                                                      #236.9 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:28 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                      Romney doesn't pay taxes, so he doesn't care which "loopholes" get closed.

                                                                                                                        Reply#237 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

                                                                                                                        MB that is a lie he pays millions in taxes. So do yourself a favor shut up.

                                                                                                                          #237.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

                                                                                                                          USAF: how do we know he pays millions in taxes? Oh yeah, he said we could trust him! Like the workers of all those businesses he closed. Like the workers whose pension money he pocketed. Like the citizens of the state of Mass who were left with $MILLIONS in debt and 47 in the nation in job creation. usaf: how much are you getting paid to lie for this loser?

                                                                                                                            #237.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

                                                                                                                            USAF, Still waiting for you to dispute the specific points in my post. I know you can do it buddy, don't be bashful. Why don't you point out all the inconsistencies and misinformation and make me look foolish???

                                                                                                                              #237.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

                                                                                                                              MB that is a lie he pays millions in taxes.

                                                                                                                              says who?

                                                                                                                              I say he took a tax amnesty from the IRS to avoid prosecution for bringing his millions home from Switzerland and the Cayman Islands.

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                                                                                                                              #237.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

                                                                                                                              USAF, Still waiting for you to dispute the specific points in my post.

                                                                                                                              Nope. that's his M.O. respond to anything you say with vague accusations against Obama without addressing the original question.

                                                                                                                                #237.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                I say Sam and his tax records prove he pays million in Taxes.

                                                                                                                                  #237.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                  Your going to be waiting along time intrepid I am not going to engage in bulls hit with you. Where is Obama's plan tell me what Obama's plan is I am still waiting.

                                                                                                                                    #237.7 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                    I say he only paid millions in taxes for one year. The rest of it he hid offshore.

                                                                                                                                      #237.8 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                      Sam you cant prove anything you said also if he wasnt paying taxes the IRS would be all over his as s. Its time the lies stop. ok there is absolutely no proof of what you say and to continue to say it is disengeinous

                                                                                                                                        #237.9 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                        The proof is in the tax returns he won't release, and that's why he won't release them.

                                                                                                                                        The IRS WAS all over his as s. They offered a tax amnesty to people with money stashed offshore and allowed them to avoid prosecution if they brought the money home.

                                                                                                                                        Mittens took the deal and brought his money home. That's why he won't release his returns. There is no other possible reason not to release them. He's dirty. Prove I'm wrong. Oh wait....you can't because you don't know.

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                                                                                                                                        #237.10 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                        So Sam, how do you know that the IRS was all over his a$$? You have special telepathy? And he surely paid more than you, if you paid any at all.

                                                                                                                                          #237.11 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:31 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                          USAF, you won't engage because you can't answer, it's that simple. All you can do is speak in bumper sticker slogans, that's it.

                                                                                                                                          You just keep spewing BS and garbage USAF. We always have a good laugh when you post. Maybe you need to just crawl back to your single wide and let the adults talk.

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                                                                                                                                          #237.12 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:35 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                          Obama gave us a $867 Billion stimulus package filled with his trickle up policies. Did it work?

                                                                                                                                          No. It added a measly $700 Billion added to the GDP, that will not even cover the stimulus. A net jobs loss of 292,000 as of today. Did he use his time focusing on jobs and bring down debt? No. He championed and passed a bill handing off health care to the government who can not even run a cash for clunkers program and runs to Vegas partying or on dime. Geez, where can I find an off shore account to keep my hard earned cash from these idiots.

                                                                                                                                          The results show, corporations and jobs running to China escaping the highest corporate tax on the planet, the Roman Legion EPA, Unions, and above all, Obamacare.

                                                                                                                                          Obviously the job was to big for him to solve. Taxing the %1, borrowing more money from China to fund his spending programs, and having the FED simply print more money, is not a plan for success; it is a recipe for more failure.

                                                                                                                                          If Obama could not fix this with $867 Billion in the last four years, what makes anyone think that he can fix it in the next four years with out it?

                                                                                                                                            Reply#238 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                            Where is Obama's plan to fix the economy 4 years and counting 6 trillion dollars wasted and still no plan.

                                                                                                                                              Reply#239 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                              What is Mitten's plan?

                                                                                                                                                #239.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                He layed out a 5 point plan and if your liberal media was fair they would report that.

                                                                                                                                                  #239.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                  Oh yeah, he's going to close some mysterious unnamed "tax loopholes" to pay for everything? Is that the plan you're talking about?

                                                                                                                                                    #239.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                    Where is Obama's plan still waiting 4 years where is the plan.

                                                                                                                                                      #239.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:31 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                      Where is Mitten's plan?

                                                                                                                                                        #239.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                        Obama has no plan. That s why we continue down this absurd path. Read the Woodward book. Calls Obama arrogant. And clearly his own team is not playing. Pelosi puts him on hold so she does not need to lsten. If Obama had concentrated on the economy and jobs, his AV
                                                                                                                                                        CA might have passed later. He focused on the wrong thing.,l

                                                                                                                                                          #239.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:36 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                          President Obama has visions, allusions to values, he touched President Clinton, he set goals, and... wait a sec... it'll come to me...

                                                                                                                                                          My mistake. NO PLAN.

                                                                                                                                                            #239.7 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:38 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                                            By far the largest deductions taken from Federal income taxes are: Home mortgage interest, charitable contributions and health care premiums. Who do you think would be most disproportionately effected by those if they were ended? Guess what? Willard's tax plan would increase the debt $5 trillion over 10 years. Where is he going to find $5 trillion in deduction/loopholes to counter that plus another $2 trillion he wants to INCREASE defense SPENDING?

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                                                                                                                                                            Reply#240 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                            We have to start someplace Obama is not willing to fix the economy Romney is.

                                                                                                                                                              #240.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                              Well, you see, after we bring democracy to Iran, they will throw flowers at us and we will pay for everyting with Iranian oil revenues.

                                                                                                                                                                #240.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                You missed to that boat when Obama failed to back the uprising.

                                                                                                                                                                  #240.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:30 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                                                  I am tired of the liberal lies you can tax the rich to a 100% and it wouldnt do @!$%# to fix our problems. We have a population with 45% of the people who pay no taxes at all they have to pay thier fair share its that simple. You cant expect the middle class and upper middle class and the rich to shoulder all the burden.

                                                                                                                                                                    #241 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                    Yeah, let's raise taxes on the people who work at Walmart who work full time and still quality for public assistance, which Walmart encourages.

                                                                                                                                                                      #241.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                      USAF, bending the truth again? That 45% you are referring to pays property taxes, payroll taxes, and sales taxes. True story.

                                                                                                                                                                        #241.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                        So they should pay no taxes is that what you are saying.

                                                                                                                                                                          #241.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                          Ed you are a liar and that is a fact 45% pay no taxes a fact and it cant continue.

                                                                                                                                                                            #241.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                            USAF, you do realize that there are middle class people that pay no federal income taxes?

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                                                                                                                                                                            #241.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:36 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                            UH........USAF, if you own a home, you pay property taxes.

                                                                                                                                                                              #241.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:39 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                              Uh...........USAF, if you purchase things from a store, you pay sales taxes.

                                                                                                                                                                                #241.7 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:40 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                Uh............USAF, if you have a job, you pay payroll taxes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                #241.8 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                IF we tax the top 1% we will only run the federal govt for 8.5 days. Which is probably about how many working days we get out of Congress.

                                                                                                                                                                                  #241.9 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                  So how much should the poverty stricken pay in taxes?

                                                                                                                                                                                  Yep, let's tax the poor. That should bring in a few hundred dollars.

                                                                                                                                                                                    #241.10 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                    Federal income tax Ed they pay no federal income tax you clown.

                                                                                                                                                                                      #241.11 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:50 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                      Been there, it's not an all or nothing proposition. Nobody except conservatives talks about running the WHOLE federal government from additional tax revenues from the wealthy.

                                                                                                                                                                                        #241.12 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                        46% are not in poverty. When I made little money, I still paid federal tax. What has happened here?

                                                                                                                                                                                          #241.13 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                          I just think we should "cut" programs and studies that have no value. How much have we paid on the worthless hearing on steroids - who cares? We have kids borrowing for student loans for degrees in Art History - wow that's going to be useful getting a job in this economy. Taxes can only pay down the debt so much and then it's going to pinch the pocket book because now China is slowing down they might want us to pay our loan.

                                                                                                                                                                                            #241.14 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                            @beenthere. Right on!

                                                                                                                                                                                              #241.15 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:55 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                              I think we should cut military spending that has no value. A lot more money there than in subsidizing student loans. True story.

                                                                                                                                                                                                #241.16 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:00 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                should "cut" programs and studies that have no value.

                                                                                                                                                                                                I don't disagree, but like food stamps and aid to dependent chirldren, they make up an insignificant part of spending and are NOT the Republican targets.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Make no mistake, when the teabirthers talk about "welfare", they're talking about Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, not food stamps. We already reformed real welfare in 90s. "Welfare Reform" is not part of the Republican party platform.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  #241.17 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:01 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                  When I was young and uneducated and worked menial manufacturing jobs, I sitll made twice the minimum wage (which has not kept up with inflation since that time), and I got medical insurance almost as an afterthought that cost almost nothing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  If someone advertised a job for double the minimum wage with insurance, they would have 1000 applications for every position.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #241.18 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Let's talk about the 800billion in health care mismanagement every year. Some is fraud but a lot is just mismanagement. Too many admin costs, too many unneeded tests, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    #241.19 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:50 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    Oh wow. Now Romney, a mormon, is on the stump with Pat Robertson, an evil parasite spreading lies and blasphemy everywhere he goes. LOL that will go over well

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Reply#242 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:39 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Awesome. Pat will say something really stupid that all the teabirthers believe, and then Romney will have to make up some excuse and tell us how he doesn't agree with Pat.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        #242.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:48 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                        lol so very true

                                                                                                                                                                                                          #242.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:53 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          if there was really something to Romney's tax returns wouldn't the I.R.S. have something to say?...and Joe Biden?...really?... poeple actually give a sh#t what that idiot has to say? and all of you out there who collect a government check you had better thank your lucky stars for the upper 5% as they pay 70+% of all federal taxes payed without them you get dick...yet allways bitching for more

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Reply#243 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                          HADENOUGH, The "People who collect a government check" are in many instances members of the GOP pal. Your party LOVES WELFARE. Welfare for rich people. Sure, let's give more tax subsidies for big oil, big agriculture and numerous other special interest groups.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          You know, your boy Paul Ryan who rants against the Stimulus and loves to tell people how horrible it is, evidently thought it was not too bad, cause he went begging with hat in hand to the Obama administration for some of that dirty, "Big Government, Socialized, Nanny State" money.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          And I'll remind you clowns on the Right yet again that it is the Red States that receive more in federal dollars than do the Blue states. The GOP loves to say "Government has never created single job". What a great bumper sticker. And now they are whining that if the tax deal that they endorsed and stood by, is carried out, it will cause the loss of thousands of military contractor jobs. I never knew that our "military industrial complex" was in fact a jobs program for the GOP but evidently it is. Had Enough, can you say HYPOCRISY??? Your party is so transparent it's downright embarrassing to watch you fall over yourselves, jockying for a poltical advantage and instead proving what a pack of liars the Right is.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            #243.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:23 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Welfare for rich people.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Intrepid

                                                                                                                                                                                                            What exactly is that?

                                                                                                                                                                                                              #243.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:32 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Tax subsidies and legislation created specifically to benefit the uber rich and corporate American. Who do you think has all those fancy lobbyists on K Street who buy favors with Congress? You think it's poor people? Hardly, which is one reason why a mulit millionaire like Mittens pays a tax rate at least half of what you or I pay. And we don't really know, do we cause this gutless weasle won't reveal his taxes even though IT WAS HIS OWN FATHER THAT BEGAN THE TRADITION and said "I'm releasing a dozen years worth because one or two might be a fluke".

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              #243.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:43 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                              How does someone paying taxes receive a subsidy?

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mr. Buffett and Mr. Romney pay a lower rate because their income comes from investments, which is taxed at a lower rate.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mr. Romney paid over $3M in '10; available on line.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              The problem isn't Mr. Romney or Mr. Buffett; it's Congress, which writes the tax code.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Personally I was peeved that the Democrats didn't write a fairer code when they had a majority.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                #243.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:02 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                hey intrepid where in my post do I claim to be a republican?...I think both parties are completely full of sh@t. I merely point out if Romney has tax issue you would think the I.R.S. would be invoved. second you gonna really try and tell me Biden is not a f-n idiot? and yes I will stand on the statement that without the upper 1-10%ers the people collecting their monthly checks wouldn't be getting a dime and DO SEEM TO BE CONSTANTLY BITCHING FOR MORE...that is not a message from the republican party that is an obsevation made by an independent.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  #243.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:33 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  So Intrepid, how much should the 1% pay? The 2 %, the 5 %, the 10
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  %? How much do you want to confiscate? How much in estate taxes? I will burn my money first which would be an improvement over what thevfederal government will do.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    #243.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:56 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I understand that BFD Biden doesn't drink alcohol! Maybe he should start! This guy is three sandwiches shy of a picnic!! He has the audacity to say he is going to run for president in 2016!! He could not qualify for dog catcher in his hometown! Of course you never know look who was elected in 2008!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The hope and change is not coming with this team of Obama/Biden now and not in the next 4 years or 20 years with these losers at the helm!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Obama talks about driving the car into the ditch, well Barry look what you have done to our country!! You messed it up and you have no plan or no leadership to improve the situation!! You need to go!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Reply#244 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:15 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    U sound just like lying a$$ mitt and ryan just making u crap, do u repukes have no shame

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      #244.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:20 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      RICK, You are so right. What we need is someone with a towering intellect, unimpeachable credentials and the spirit to rally the entire nation. Someone like Sister Sarah Palin, cause that's what your party deserves a mindless bimbo with ZERO ability to be a leader. Hell, she can't even answser a trick "gottcha" question like "what news publications do you read" or "name some significant Supreme Court decisions"?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        #244.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:26 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Whats truly amazing is that once McCain saw all of Mitts tax returns he chose Palin to be his VP.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        How bad does that make Mitt? Pick that loser Palin above Mitt.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          #244.3 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hey Rick, here's a news flash for you. Joe Biden has always had and always will have so much more class then the likes of you, Rombutt or Ryan. He has suffered terrible loss and still has gotten up everyday and given this country his all. I'm sure neither you, Rombutt or Ryan can say that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Jerks like you are dime a dozen.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            #244.4 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:55 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            And Bidèn milks his tragic story for every minute. It was a Tracey but others have had the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              #244.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:39 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mitt is such a liar big time LIAR, mumbling bumbling LIAR

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Reply#245 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:16 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Mitt lies so much his own surrugates can't keep up with him

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Reply#246 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:25 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  If Mitt plan is so good why don't he share it with the American people, because approving a pipe line and cutting taxes for the rich increasing military budget that's not much a plan that's just a bunch of bull

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Reply#247 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @p.Mack . Present the Obama plan. Oh, you cannot since there is none.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      #247.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:40 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      p.Mack

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      When is President Obama going to put forth an economic plan?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I like how he can talk the talk, but he's balking at the walk...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        #247.2 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:42 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You are a liar. Where is Romney a bigamist? You are too mental to vote. Please check into a facility.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          #247.5 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:58 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @how you say. So what are Obama's policies?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            #247.6 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:24 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Romney's encoded economic plan is written on gold plates and is buried in the ground somewhere in Massachusetts. After he is elected he will use a seer stone given to him by Ryan to decode the message written on the plates by Ayn Rand upon her deathbed and transcribed by the angel Itsaboutmaknigmoneyyoumoron-i. Romney will then reveal to a select group of Republicans the great Rand Plan for self-enrichment and control of the masses.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Reply#249 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:53 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              So what is the Obama plan?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                #249.1 - Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:03 PM EDT
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