MILFORD, OH – Citing Mitt Romney's appearance on NBC's Meet the Press earlier in the day, Vice President Joe Biden took aim Sunday at Romney's failure to name specific tax loopholes he would close to lower taxes and balance the budget.
"He said that he's gonna pay for all these tax cuts by closing the loopholes, but when asked by Mr. Gregory what loopholes he'd close, he couldn't name one," Biden told a crowd of 700 supporters at a western Ohio high school.
"All this has a giant price tag and it's not going to come from closing loopholes for millionaires," he added.
On NBC, host David Gregory asked Romney to specify how he would eliminate tax deductions and exceptions in order to compensate for the enormous financial consequences of his deep tax cut proposals.
Romney responded only by noting that "people at the high end" would have fewer opportunities for tax exemptions, but he declined to pinpoint any specific numbers or policies.
“High income taxpayers are going to have fewer deductions and exemptions... Those numbers are going to come down. Otherwise, they'd get a tax break. And I want to make sure people understand, despite what the Democrats said at their convention. I am not reducing taxes on high income taxpayers. I'm bringing down the rate of taxation, but also bringing down deductions and exemptions at the high end so the revenues stay the same, the taxes people pay stay the same. Middle income people are going to get a break. But at the high end, the tax coming in stays the same. But we encourage small business, because small business is able to keep more of what it makes and therefore hire more people, which is my priority.”
The stop in Clermont County, a heavily-Republican area that supported John McCain by a 2-1 margin in 2008, was Biden's final campaign event of a two-day swing through Ohio. He will return to the Buckeye State next Wednesday to campaign in Dayton.


Amerigal, we appreciate your morals. You never used birth control and if you were raped by a relative you would have the baby. Even Mrs Santorum had a late term abortion- it's good to see we have real morals represented on this forum. I suspect Ryan has practiced birth control- OMG!
It is time to stop
wasting our breath by asking the "Republicans" in congress to
cooperate on behalf of the American people. There are no longer any Republicans
available to ask. The Republican Party is DEAD! Left in its stead is an amoral
minority ... an organization that is corrupt from the top down. The
choice has become clear.
This November you will
vote for a president or you will vote for a board director. You
will vote for someone who looks at our country as a cherished possession
in need of protection or you will vote for someone who looks at our country as
just another company with a bottom line. You will vote for a man who
respects you as a fellow citizen in possession of a good amount of
intelligence or you will vote for someone who looks upon you as only human
capital and has judged you to be as dumb as a herd of cattle.
This November you will
vote for a Democrat or a Plutocrat. In other words, this November
you will vote for a sole proprietorship --- YOU --- or you will
vote for a corporation --- THEM.
This November you will need to THINK!
Yea, we could all be in CA, NV or RI after initiating your plan.
How's broke ass liberal chicago doing right now? Obamas, hometown, teachers striking because unions knw despite the city being bankrupt, they will get what they want. You libs are pathetic.
Shery Lou...the democrats have voted with the republicans against Obama's "budgets" 97-0 and 99-0. Are they not "cooperating on behalf of the American people?"
Harry Reid won't even let more than two dozen republican jobs bills on to the floor for a vote, why is he not "cooperating on behalf of the American people?"
Let's pull out our taxes and investments in 2008, then let's pull out our paycheck stubs and investment statements for 2012. OMG, rithmetic is a real problem for the hommie schoolin crowd. Darn, Obama's plan is working. It's real simple, let me help out the numbsculls posting for Romney-
don't go into a fruitless war, don't play with the tax code that was working fine in 2000. Don't put SS in the stock market. Don't claim there is a 6K health plan for seniors- or anyone else for that matter. Get deadbeats to buy health insurance so we don't have to pay for their ER visits. Invest in new technology. believe in science, not some Mormon bishop. stop outsourcing jobs, don't out CIA agents like Valerie Plame. Kill Bin Laden and other terrorists. Gosh, I guess the big O did do a few things after all!
Last- my idea-renounce citizenship for anyone that wants to offshore their money.
Yeah, the unemployment numbers from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics are lies!! ALL LIES!!! They're LYING I TELL YOU!!
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
People are MUCH better off now, now that millions more people are out of work, getting foreclosed on, and running out of unemployment, and getting on welfare!
Too bad all those dems voted for fruitless wars, right? Oh wait, that's a LIE, too!!! D'oh!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution
And don't believe anyone who tells you that Obama added more to our debt in three years than Bush did in eight! It's a LIE!!!!
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57400369-503544/national-debt-has-increased-more-under-obama-than-under-bush/
Our country has never had it this good! Don't believe all these LIES!!!
Good luck with that, all kinds of Americans would lose their citizenship, including hypocrite lefty Debbie Wasserman Schultz:
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/jul/18/mary-matalin/debbie-wasserman-schultz-had-offshore-accounts-mit/
Poor Mitt, in the primaries he struggled to beat the "not-Romney" candidates, and now he's running as the "not-Obama" candidate.
I bet the irony escapes him.
I wonder if the irony of Obama's rightfully earned Nobel Peace Prize that he "earned" just for not being Bush is lost on him.
Naaaah, Obama truly deserved that Peace Prize.
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Its a secret!!!
Trust me!!!
lolololololololol
Republicans can't really be that stupid, can they???
Romney claims that he will close some loopholes that the rich exploit... doesn't that mean that the rich will pay more taxes??? Didn't Romney also swear that he wouldn't raise anyone's taxes and doesn't he support Norquist's tax pledge??
Republicans can't really be that stupid, can they???
Our unemployment has been above 8.1% for 43 straight months, and our national debt has been augmented more in three years than the previous administration's eight years...after the president himself said if he couldn't fix it in three years, he should be a one-term president...and the democrats want to continue down this ridiculous failure of a path??
The democrats weren't this stupid back in 1980 to re-elect Carter when he presided over such a horrible stagflation-riddled economy (even that economy's unemployment averaged only 7.6%)... the democrats of 2012 can't really be that stupid to re-elect Obama, can they????
Yes bill bob philly, the crippling 18%+ interest rates, horrible stagflation and high unemployment had NOTHING to do with it.
@ Jax A,
Yeah, we voted in Reagan who gave weapons to terrorists for keeping the hostages prisoners until after the election... it was called the Iran/Contra scandal...
Mitt Romney and his "pig-in-a-poke"campaign...!
Mittwit Robbme is disqualified, due to the FACT he is refusing to show atleast 10 years of his tax returns.
On top of that Mittwit Robbme refuse to let the American public know what he would do and how. That too is a disqualification.
He wont tell the American people he will keep it a secret and tell congress. WOW
President Obama 2012
Where as Obama's refusal to give us any specifics on how he plans to fix the economy and why his "plans" from the last four years obviously didn't work...and his refusal to show any academic transcripts whatsoever make him A-OK, right??
JAX...just curious...why are you using an icon that looks like a dead iraqi tyrant? just sayin'...
Sheryn_Lou...sorry you're too blind to see it's really Obama Crying and screaming how it's not his fault.
Any other stupid questions?
funny how you should guess that i am legally blind. however, no ... no more questions. out of you, i would only get more stupid answers.
He can't name his loopholes to close because there ARE none. It's an empty promise for stupid people to get elected. Even if he DID close "loopholes", it wouldn't be nearly enough!
Even getting rid of discretionary spending, which is 12% of the budget, that looks out of the poor, infrastructure, Research, Education and other programs.
That still would not add up to the 5 Trillion Mittwit plans to give the rich.
We already had $100 Billion from Obama's stimulus that went to education. Where did it go??? Still trying to find the money trial. It went to unions and pension buy outs. Why? 30 states are broke!
We already had $46 billion for transportation projects, including $27 billion for highway and bridge construction and repair and $11.5 billion for mass transit and rail projects.
Where did that money go? The construction contracts went to the lowest bidder who employ illegal Mexican labor. That is why they can bid so low.
Does anyone see 27 billion worth of highway improvements and repair???
Where is this money going???
it went for tax breaks for the rich, instead of its intended targets, as soon as bush took office. "education, transportation, infrastructure be damned" was the bush motto. long live haliburton.
Sheryn_Lou, explain to me how Obama's tarp money could "go to tax breaks for the rich as soon as Bush took office" when Obama was elected after Bush.
This ought to be good...
now who's the blind one. lolol
Sheryn_Lou...you said, and I quote:
So again, please explain to me how tarp money from Obama could go to the rich "as soon as bush took office."
sorry, i'm not the secretary of 'splainin' stuff. i leave that to clinton. but if you heard his speech, he put it real simple so even a child like you could understand: they call it ARITHMETIC.
and by trying to pick a fight with me, especially on the subject of accounting practices, you only show how pathetic an opponent you really are. so ... end of conversation. you're now on "ignore." have a good day.
Another lefty BS'r unable to back up their BS. Shocking, I know.
I heard that all of Mittens friends call him Mitt "Loophole" Romney!
Mitt??? Loopholes?? What about GE??? This is the same GE that made $5.1 billion in the United States last year paid no taxes-the same company that employs more people overseas than it does in the United States.
GM is the same. Bush signed TARP, as well as, the Bail-Out of GM which at the time was only $17 Billion placed in a working escrow. Obama signed the checks and over saw the administration of the funds, as well as, the re-structuring of GM.
http: //www.financialexpress.com/news/general-motors-opens-new-plant-in-china/399643/
http: //voices.yahoo.com/uaw-furious-over-gm-plant-china-426020.html
http: //careers.gm.com/careers-worldwide/asiamiddle-east/china.html
With $50 Billion in their pocket in 2009, GM closed 13 plants, including the one in Janesville, laid off 21,000 workers. These plants were not of Obama's approved re-structuring plan for GM.
Investing in China was. They opened 11 new plants, and hired 35,000 Chinese.
Those GM Chinese cars have been imported for a year now.
If we give $50 Billion to a failing car company, is it not reasonable to have them use those funds to keep plants open here and not closed them like the one in Janesville?
GE outsourced its entire X-Ray division to China, and what were GE's taxes?
I guess being Obama's buddy has worked out quite well for Imelt.
It is horrible. GE has a 1000 man tax unit who only purpose to find ways not pay any or the least amount taxes.
And these liberals cry about Mitt???
Romney can't be specific because he has no plan ~ just the overwhelming desire for the office. He had no plan at all until he picked up Ryan ~ and it is the Ryan economic proposal that will prevail in a Romney administration. Romney believes very strongly that his good looks, pile of money, past business success, and connections are enough to win the White House. He is and shall remain Mr. Clean while Ryan is the nuts-and-bolts mechanic for budget and policy. Romney just wants to be president while Ryan has larger dreams ~ he wants to be king of the Sanhedrin and Romney will grant him that power.
Obama's plans for the last four years have worked wonders, so his plans (the ones we haven't heard any specifics on yet, yeah, those) for the future MUST be good, right?
1). Repeal Obama's $500 Billion tax on the middle class and business otherwise know as Obamacare.
2). Cut the highest corporate tax on the planet from the current %38.9 to %28.
3). Cut the cap gains tax on dividends from %28 to %18.
4). Repeal the %30 tax on small business owners in the $200K to $1 Million THI range.
5). Restructure and manage the Roman Legion EPA to be a part of business plans.
That is fairly specific
@Publius *
All vague thoughts at best.
Did you forget MittWitt latest Flip Flopper he would keep Obamacare so #1 is done. Now #2 Exxon, GE, Romney & Apple pay on average 3.45% of taxable income. Each one of the companies paid zero taxes in 2010 Romney was the highest at 13.9% so #2 is done. Moving to #3 cutting the capital gain would do nothing for the middle class or the poor. The capital gains are for rich people. It would also lower Mittwitt capital gains to 0.85%, so # 3 is done. Moving to # 4 Small business taxes have been cut three times already. So # 4 is done. Moving to # 5 eliminating the EPA will let your corporate master poison the water of the poor and elderly. So that takes care of all 5 of your stupid policies that Mittwitt Robbme NEVER adopted. NEVER.
If so prove it. Send link to flip floppers.
Vague?? Typlical liberal, your brain-washing makes clear facts fly over your head like frizbeees.
Mitt said he would repeal Obamacare, and introduce another bill keeping some of the sensible ideas like not being denied care for pre-existing conditions, above all do away with the mandate, and the $500 Billion tax on the middle class.
You need to take some economics, and some history. Both Clinton and Reagan cut the cap gains tax and created over 40 Million jobs between them.
Clinton also cut government spending. These two policies of cutting the cap gains and cut spending are trickle down policies. Clinton lied to us all again the other night.
You nothing of manufacturing either. Each company has an enviromental officer. I have held this position for 15 years. All chemicals are tracked and the PH monitored from water out put of the scrubbers. A report is given to Osha and the EPA. Just give a tax break for scrubbers and monitoring. That is not doing away with the EPA numbskull. that is working together.
Not once, I repeat, not once in history has trickle up policies saved any economy. Why? The middle class has no money and are in horrible debt. This will get worse with companies and jobs running to China escaping the highest corporate tax rate on the planet, the Roman Legion EPA, Unions, and abave all, Obama care.
Trickle up has added a measly $700 Billion to the GDP. That will not even cover the stimulus. A debt headed north of $16 Trillion, and a net job loss of 292,000 right now. Job claims negate job gains and translate to a net jobs loss. That is why you see the un-employment head north while Obama says the opposite.
Tricke down are policies championed by JFK. And have pulled us out every down-turn. Bush added over $5 Trillion to the GDP, and ended up with a million net jobs gain even after the losses in 2008. Reagan doubled the GDP and added 21 Million jobs. Both did itwith out a DOT COM boom like Clinton did.
Innovation and jobs are driven by private investors who are willing to risk their money. No rich person just sits on their money, they invest it.
Try to grasp these facts and truth,
Sure he has a plan...brought in his coat pocket from Massachusetts.
What is happing in France is what is starting to happen here in the US under Obama's taxing for "fair share".
What would be people paying thier "fair share" would be those 49% that pay no federal taxes. That would be a "fair share".
Not only that, Obama and Bumbling-Blithering-Biden can't even agree on what "rich" is. Obama says singles at 200k/yr and households at 250k/yr are "rich"...where as Drooling Biden says he's "middle class" at 379k/yr.
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/07/11/biden-considers-379k-income-middle-class/
Some of the best comedy, ever.
This just in. Mittens says he's going to release his tax returns.
He just can't remember which house he left them in!
He now remembers he left them in a house with a car elevator.
But he still can't remember which house he left them in!
He also remembers it's in a house that he used as a huge tax deduction.
But he still can't remember which house he left them in!
Read the 2700 pages, it is full of hidden taxes. is an abbreviated list of taxes on families and businesses introduced by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), known as Obamacare, totalling more than $500 billion over the next ten years as prepared by the Americans for Tax Reform:
Excise taxes on charitable hospitals ($50,000 per hospital if they do not meet HHS criteria of "community health assessment needs," billing and collection," and "financial assistance" (PPACA, 2010, pp. 1,961-1,971)
Codify "economic substance doctrine" (IRS will not allow any legal deductions or tax-minimizing plans because it lacks "substance" and is intended to reduce taxes owed); this is a tax increase of $4.5 billion (Bill Reconciliation Act, 2010, pp. 108-113)
"Black liquor" tax on a special bio-fuel (Bill Reconciliation Act, 2010, p. 105)
Tax on innovating drug companies (PPACA, 2010, p. 1,971-1,980)
Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Increase (PPACA, 2010, p. 2,004)
Ten percent tax on indoor tanning (PPACA, 2010, pp. 2,397-2,399)
Medicine cabinet tax disallows Americans to use health savings accounts, flexible spending accounts, or health reimbursement pre-tax money to buy over the counter medicines except insulin (PPACA, 2011, pp. 1,957-1,959)
HSA Withdrawal tax hike from 10 to 20 percent (PPACA, 2011, p. 1,959)
Employer reporting of insurance on W-2 forms, taxing health benefits on individual tax returns (PPACA, 2012, p. 1,957)
Surtax on investment income for families that make at least $250,000 or $200,00 single (Bill Reconciliation Act, 2013, pp. 87-93)
Medicare payroll tax increase (PPACA, Reconciliation Act, 2013, pp. 2,000-2,003, pp. 87-93)
A 2.3 percent excise tax on medical device manufacturers (PPACA, 2013, pp. 1,980-1,986)
Medical expenses can be itemized if they exceed 10 percent, no longer the previous 7.5 percent, resulting in fewer people being able to itemize (PPACA, 2013, pp. 1,994-1,995)
Flexible spending account cap of $2,500 which is now unlimited (PPACA, 2013, pp. 2,388-2,389)
Eliminate tax deductions for employer-provided retirement prescription drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D (PPACA, 2013, p. 1,994)
Limit of $500,000 annual executive compensation for health insurance executives (PPACA, 2013, pp. 1,995-2,000)
Individual mandate excise tax starting in 2014 if a person does not buy a "qualifying" health insurance, 1 percent in 2014, 2 percent in 2015, 2.5 percent in 2016; exempted are hardship cases as determined by HHS, religious objectors, undocumented immigrants, prisoners, those earning less than the poverty line, members of Indian tribes (PPACA, 2014, pp. 317-337)
Employer mandated tax, non-deductible of $2,000 per employee if the employer does not offer health coverage and at least one employee qualifies for a health tax credit; if an employee receives coverage through the government exchange, the employer penalty for that employee increases to $3,000 (PPACA, 2014, pp. 345-346)
Tax on health insurers based on premiums collected per year (PPACA, 2014, pp. 1,986-1,993 (this all but forces employers to stop offering insurance, forcing their employees onto the government exchanges)
40 percent excise tax on comprehensive health insurance plans or "Cadillac plans" (PPACA, 2018, pp. 1,941-1,956)
Except the unions got a waiver for this one.
What kind of people or companies would have this stuff? The rich or well off companies.
For example: Codify "economic substance doctrine" (IRS will not allow any legal deductions or tax-minimizing plans because it lacks "substance" and is intended to reduce taxes owed); this is a tax increase of $4.5 billion (Bill Reconciliation Act, 2010, pp. 108-113)
What middle class or poor American has such a plan? NONE stupid this is loophole for the rich. So call them out on it and get rid of it
You need to take some classes in economics, manufacturing, and history.

You know nothing of manufacturing. Each manufacturnung company worth their salt has an environmental officer. I have held this position for 15 years in the past. All chemicals are tracked and the PH monitored from water out put of the scrubbers. A report is given to Osha and the EPA. Just give a tax break for scrubbers and monitoring. That is not doing away with the EPA numbskull .That is working together.
Rich people do not hold on to the money, they invest it. Why? Because they will be taxed on it.
Investing in stat-ups is far from a loop holes idiot. That is how the Silicon Valley got started.
And cutting goverment spending and the cap gains are Trickle-Down policies. Both Reagan and Clinton did that. Obama certainaly is not doing that.
Mittens wants to run on the party of "change".
Change his position hourly!
Barry is running on the party of "division" and taxation.
Divide and Conquer and tax the hell out of every one
Against it. For it. Against it. Against it. Against it. For it. Against it. Against it. Against
it. For it. Against it. Against it. For it. Against it. For it. Against it. For it. Against it. For it. Against it. For it. Against it. For it. Against it. For it. Against it. For it. Against it. For it. Against it. For it. P-L-E-A-S-E... Will someone give Mitt a ONE HEADED COIN!!!
Obama 2006: "Gay people should be able to get married."
Obama 2008: "Gay people should not be able to get married."
Obama 2012: "Gay people should be able to get married."
Obama 2006: "It's a failure of leadership to raise the debt ceiling."
Obama 2009: "Let's raise the debt ceiling... a few times."
Obama 2008: "I'll repeal the Patriot Act."
Obama 2011: "Give me that pen, I need to sign the extension of the Patriot Act."
Obama 2008: "I'll close Gitmo."
Obama 2011: "Yeah, guess we have to keep Gitmo open."
What were you saying about a "one-headed coin?"
The Koch Brothers MUST be stopped. They are buying our country for their own personal benefit. Today, the Denver Post reported that William Koch, who has built a private playground in Colorado, is buying the Royal Gorge Railroad, dismantling in and rebuilding it in his private compound. They are buying your vote so they can dismantle our country for their own profit and pleasure. A GOP vote this time is selling America to the highest bidder.
@Ronacrone
Don't forget about the paid shill on this blog posting Sh!t that is totally wrong.
Sorry Ronacrone but the likes of George Soros has already bought and paid for our country and Obama/Dems have the reciepts.
Stopped? They are private citizens speaking their minds and supporting the causes they believe in.
Are you going to send jack-booted brown shirted thugs after them for that???
Mitt/Willard Romney - The Fill In the Blank and Multiple Choice Test Candidate....only problem is the GOP lost the key to the answers on the test so they can grade you any way they want after you turn it in.
The right thinks the poor and middle class don't pay enough in taxes. And they support tax cuts for the rich.
Good luck with that in November!
What's not to like about mittens proposals...we don't need no stinkin facts
Larry Flynt is offerring one million dollars for Romney's unreleased tax returns.
That's $1,000,000. That's a lot of zeros.
This is not a joke!
I'd be worried if I was as unlikeable as Romney!
Romney's net worth is more than the last eight U.S. presidents combined.
His trust fund for his grand kids is seven times Obama's net worth.
Not if John Kerry got elected.
You just pointed out that Romney is successful and Obama is a failure.
The way Romney and Ryan lie they will soon tell us that Kerry won!
Uh oh, here come more pesky facts!
http://www.cnbc.com/id/46070801/10_Richest_US_Presidential_Candidates
Wow, look at all those rich democrats! In fact, there are more democrats than republicans on that list!
10. John Edwards (D) Current estimated net worth: $45 million
9. Rudy Giuliani (R) Current estimated net worth: $65 million
8. Jon Huntsman (R) Current estimated net worth: $70 million
6. (Tied) Hillary Clinton (D) Current estimated net worth: $85 million
6. (Tied) Bill Clinton (D) Current estimated net worth: $85 million
5. Al Gore (D) Current estimated net worth: $100 million
4. John Kerry (D) Current estimated net worth: $240 million
3. Mitt Romney (R) Current estimated net worth: $250 million
2. Steve Forbes (R) Current estimated net worth: $450 million
1. Ross Perot (I) Current estimated net worth: $3.58 billion
Darn those pesky facts!
Romney can't give specifics because his proposals are malarkey, and he knows it.
We all know that Romney wears magic underwear.
Was he born with magic diapers too?
In Clinton's speech he said "2 + 2 = 4".
Fox News is fact checking this!
CNN is still counting the 57 states, too. ;)
Your post on all the Democrats from Bill Clinton to Nancy Pelosi, even Joe Biden, who all saw the intel data with solid proof that Iraq had a WMD program including nuclear weapons development is spot on.
Every Intel Agency on the planet confirmed it as well.
Fast forward to 2008, 550 Metric tons of yellow cake were found in Iraq, reported by CNN.
Now, Syrian defectors confirm that Syria received the centrifuges that manufactured this material. The Syrians used the very same centrifuges for fuel for their own Reactor that Israel took out.
Get gets worse. All the equipment from Saddam's nuclear program including 65 engineers and technicians were transferred with those centrifuges.
Syrian defectors also say that most of Saddam's WMD was move out of Iraq into Syria prior to the invasion. By guess who? Russia.
There is evidence that some Democrats and Republicans alike know about all this well.
The truth needs to come out on what really happened.