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MILFORD, OH – Citing Mitt Romney's appearance on NBC's Meet the Press earlier in the day, Vice President Joe Biden took aim Sunday at Romney's failure to name specific tax loopholes he would close to lower taxes and balance the budget.
"He said that he's gonna pay for all these tax cuts by closing the loopholes, but when asked by Mr. Gregory what loopholes he'd close, he couldn't name one," Biden told a crowd of 700 supporters at a western Ohio high school.
"All this has a giant price tag and it's not going to come from closing loopholes for millionaires," he added.
On NBC, host David Gregory asked Romney to specify how he would eliminate tax deductions and exceptions in order to compensate for the enormous financial consequences of his deep tax cut proposals.
Romney responded only by noting that "people at the high end" would have fewer opportunities for tax exemptions, but he declined to pinpoint any specific numbers or policies.
“High income taxpayers are going to have fewer deductions and exemptions... Those numbers are going to come down. Otherwise, they'd get a tax break. And I want to make sure people understand, despite what the Democrats said at their convention. I am not reducing taxes on high income taxpayers. I'm bringing down the rate of taxation, but also bringing down deductions and exemptions at the high end so the revenues stay the same, the taxes people pay stay the same. Middle income people are going to get a break. But at the high end, the tax coming in stays the same. But we encourage small business, because small business is able to keep more of what it makes and therefore hire more people, which is my priority.”
The stop in Clermont County, a heavily-Republican area that supported John McCain by a 2-1 margin in 2008, was Biden's final campaign event of a two-day swing through Ohio. He will return to the Buckeye State next Wednesday to campaign in Dayton.
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Will Romney cut the $77,000 deduction for "dancing horses"??
Who knows ? The Republican Shadow Knows ! Mwuhhhh hah hah hah....... Just the Republican corporate loopholes that have NO reality consequence con. Loopholes are Republican specialty as in "Legitimate Rape" OFFShoring Swiss bank accounts. What is the accurate Romney wife count ?
He can't say how many because he doesn't know or it is "ZERO" and a multitude he would either open and make new.
Rmoney won't do anything to hurt his rich cronies & friends. He is just out to take everything he can from the middle class and poor. Rmoney isn't deserving to be in the race for president. just ask the now governor of Mass. how he left the state when his term ended. It was a mess and that's just what he would do to the country. he may be a very good businessman, so let him go back to Bain capital [if he ever left] and run it to steal jobs , pensions and send those jobs overseas and create jobs for them. Willard Rmoney is a lying , backstabbing Republican--------------BUT HE'S A CHRISTIAN..........PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!!!
And just what is Obama going to do differently? Nada, just more of the same..more broken promises..after all elections have consequences..don't they. Ready for $8.00 a gallon gas and your electricity rates "necessarily sky rocketing" And don't forget about the transportation costs added to your food costs, clothing costs,utility cost, school bus costs, and oh yeah...your costs to get to work........If you work or still have a job...When Obama came into office gas was $1.86 a gallon and is now $3.78++..that means if it cost you $50.00 in gas to go to work in 2008 it now costs you $100.00..hmm. That's $2600 a year extra out of your paycheck, ain't it. Yup, $2600 less to buy more expensive groceries, and clothing and utility bills. Gotta just luv Obama right...shut down all drilling in the Gulf, the pipeline and put the best oil leases on Federal lands into a wild horse preserve and off limits to drilling.. Don't forget about the 2 billion that went to Petrobras in Brazil so we could become their best customer with THEIR drilling off OUR shores and theirs. Hmm. Soros just happens to own a huge chunk of Petrobras doesn't he...and then to top off the insult to injury, guess who the Brazilians best customer is...CHINA. They are buying the oil we paid to drill for.......what a dum a**.
$8.00/gallon gas - makin stuff up
President impact on short term gas prices - fairy tale
George Soros - liberal donator who can't hold a candle to Koch brothers ruinous affect on our economy.
So, I'm not the only one who heard Romney say he would eliminate the capital gains tax.
Since he, and lots of the vastly rich, get the majority of their income through capital gains, this would reduce his taxes to near zero. Nice.
The Republican David Gregory let this giant piece of news slide by without comment.
If the capital gains tax is eliminated. The rich would suddenly derive all their income through capital gains and no other loopholes would be necessary. They would be paying no tax at all. Nice try Romney.
Finally you're letting slip parts of your true policy.
Ed, Show me where Romney said he would eliminate the capital gains tax. This was an issue in the primaries and Romney told Newt that if he (Newt) were to eliminate the capital gains tax he (Romney) would pay no tax. He supported the 15% tax on capital gains.
He said it on Meet the Press. 09/09/2012
There are various types of investments regarding the Cap Gaines, as such, there are various percentages that apply,
It is dependant on the investment type and return.
Hey evangelical Dems...personally I'm going to vote for the party that didn't have to take a vote to INCLUDE GOD...Can't spin that...can you.
You also can't spin that the vote was RIGGED... the teleprompter showed the "ayes" have it even before the vote was concluded...sheesh, they even rig the vote for their own delegates and you wonder why the Repubs want voter ID..and the Dems don't.....Get real.
Most evangelical Democrats can go to their CHURCH to see the word God written on a document.
Boy, Mittwit and Eddie Munster really screwed the pooch on those Sunday shows didn't they?
At least THAT pooch isn't screwing the taxpayers for a $100,000 per year part-time education....
Right Bo?
Barack Obama:
Alias Barry Soetoro pawns himself as Barack Obama, the humanitarian, the POTUS, the campaign for hope and change. But we know better. Barry is a radical Marxist who was raised by Communist parents and Communist grandparents. His mentors were known Communists, his contacts in college were strictly Marxists supporters, Marxist professors and a group of Pakistani activists as stated in his book, "Dreams From My Father".
Barack Obama, tell us about Frank Marshall Davis or Bill Ayers. Surely you remember Mr. Davis. After all, your mother knew him all too well. Mr. Ayers, a known terrorist, responsible for at least a dozen bombings, helped your early Illinois campaign by raising money, thru his organization Underground Weather. Davis, a well known Communist. Tell us about your trip to Pakistan ('81) with Pakistani Wahid Hamid.
Share with us your ideals of socialism, after all you're a member of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), referred as the "New Party". Please tell us why you have been influenced by the writings of Karl Marx, the prelude to Communism. Share with us your association with Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Do you justify this man's message by condemning our country by saying, "God bless America? No, God Damn America"? Was this a forethought supporting your belief in Marxism?
United States of America………………you didn't build it Barack Obama.
What's up flasher?
Yes, and last week he was a communist and before that a Fascist.
All the while being a Kenyan muslim.
The laughable part is two-fold, your complete ignorance of every idealogue of those "isms"and your irrational fear of them.
Could you at least get FOX to tell you which totally unfounded BS accusation is the one for this week??
All this is old sour food , it will give you vomiting and diarrhea, get to something which is more relevant to todays happenings, like Romney telling his friends not to worry over polls.
Bill Clinton was right. . . . . . . The arithmetic doesn't add up for anything Romney has said. How can you lower tax rates for everyone, increase military spending, leave medicare and Social Security alone and cut the deficit??? The easy, truthful answer is that YOU CAN'T!!!!!! This guy has no idea about anything, he can't relate to the ordinary American because he can't get that silver spoon out of his yapper. What a total buffoon, and yet, because of Obama's policies we have no choice but to vote for Romney and watch him make billionaires out of his millionaire friends. . . . . Sad, just sad
Does Biden actually even know what a loophole is?
Does Mittwit know how to calculate 2 plus 2?
No, but Biden DOES know that someone who makes 379k/year is middle class!
LOL!!!
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/07/11/biden-considers-379k-income-middle-class/
Great answer ed, you never fail to disappoint that your previous post's stupidity will always be out done by your next post.
When you apply for a job with the federal government you're required to submit five years of tax returns.
I guess if Mittens is elected President that requirement will be changed to one incomplete year!
dispatches, Where is that written. I applied for and received a job for the federal government and I had to show transcripts of my college records but not tax returns.
SMuCK - You're right.
Janitor does not require five years!
You are so right, regulations will change to fit the Mitt
Mittens we want to know if your better off than you were four years ago?
Why don't you release your tax returns from 2008 forward so we can see if your better off or worse off?
Mittens, what are you hiding?
While we're at it, could we get Debbie Wasserman Schultz's tax returns? I mean, democrats certainly don't have any money offshore, now, do they?
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/jul/18/mary-matalin/debbie-wasserman-schultz-had-offshore-accounts-mit/
Also, while we're at it, can we see Barry's academic transcripts?
Jax Ahole - Debbie Schultz's isn't running for President.
Romney brought up the question about are better off?
Don't we have the right to know if he himself is better off?
Why won't he release his tax returns?
Jax Ahole - Why would you want to see a candidates college transcripts?
Who was the last candidate to show their college transcripts?
I don't care if Romney is better off than all of us, Obama makes more than twice the amount necessary to be considered in the 1%...they're BOTH better off than most of the country. If Romney's done something dishonest with his taxes, the IRS will take care of it...and if there were any problem whatsoever, the whiney democrats would have been all over it.
You want to see taxes to see how rich someone is, or where they put their money? Great! I want to see someone's college transcripts to be sure they're not an idiot and lying about what they did during their high school and college years and how they got a scholarship that was supposed to be for foreign students ...especially when they've lost the trust of so many by refusing to product a birth certificate for three years. You can't demand someone show you that kind of documentation when you're own moron hides his with all his might.
JaxOff
So tell us, who was the last President to ever be required to show his birth certificate. NO ONE, that's who. You jerk offs have shown this man an unbelievable amount of disrespect. You obviously have zero shame. Who is the only sitting President to be heckled during his State of the Union Address, PRESIDENT Obama, that's it. For some reason you idiots seem to think that it's OK to treat this President like garbage. You've done this since the day he was elected so my only guess as to why you've done this is because he's not old, pale and stale like you are.
This is why we will never let you have a seat at the head of the table until you get rid of the tea party scum destroying the Republican Party.
Denise, you're kidding, right? You think Bush was shown any respect at all during his presidency? He was the most-maligned president that the press ever blasted...and is STILL getting blamed for things even when he's been out of office for four years...and you're crying about Obama not getting any respect?!?? The guy got a Nobel Peace Prize simply for not being Bush!! The liberal press has been kissing his a$$ the last four years as our economy goes further down the toilet...you disingenuous hypocritical douchebag.
As far as the birth certificate, it's part of the vetting process. You have to be able to prove you're a US citizen to run for president. Sorry that the Constitution offends you.
Yes you do, and he did. You idiots just didn't think it was real. So tell all of us, why when he was elected and vetted by7 the Secret Service, FBI, NSA and every other security agency in the government before he was allowed access to this nations most sensitive and closely guarded secrets including the friggin FOOTBALL they didn't have any problems. Scheese, you people are ignorant.
Bush was maligned in the press and by a lot of us because we saw right through him. He NEVER had to endure being heckled during a State of the Union by Congressmen, never. You seem to think it's OK to do it to President Obama though. What a bunch of single wide queens you clowns are.
I'll tell you jaxoff, you wouldn't know the Constitution if it bit you on your incredibly ignorant butt. I believe in the Constitution and unlike you low life's, I have zero desire to change it.
Sorry denise, he shouldn't have taken 3 years to show his birth certificate then. He could have shut everyone up in a matter of seconds but decided he was "above it." Well, he was so "above it" he finally did, right? Yeah..right. And now he thinks he can demand tax returns while he hides his college transcripts. You say Obama wouldn't be trusted with all those things if he never showed his birth certificate! GREAT! Then the IRS and the lefty whiners would be all over Romney if he had any tax issues that the IRS found! Having a hard time picking a lane, huh, a$$hole?
Hypocrite, much?
Bush was never maligned by the press "by a lot of us?" Now you're just lying. The press never stopped bashing Bush, and STILL are today. You're not fooling anyone with your blatant and deliberate stupidity.
You and Obama know jack $hit about the constitution, especially when Obamacare has to be taken to the Supreme Court to FORCE Americans to buy something from the private sector...yeah, sparky, that's a CHANGE.
Idiot.
You know why he took 3 years to show it to you low life's? It was because it was none of your damn business, that's why. He showed it to the various security services before he was sworn in, that's all that was needed. You guys just didn't want him to be an American and eligible to be President. Sucks to be you.
Mitts father showed us 12 years and every President since has shown at least 5 years of tax returns. McCain saw them and went with Palin, what does that tell you.
You are in no position to call anybody and idiot single wide. It was the Republicans that took Healthcare Reform to the Supreme Court. It's well on it's way to becoming the law of the land. You don't like it? Tough. I'm tired of paying for people like you to use the Emergency Room like a GP office. It makes my insurance rates go up. Buy your own insurance, I'm tired of paying your lazy trailer park way.
Bush lied and dragged us into an unnecessary war that cost thousands of lives and left scores of our young people horribly wounded. You you're right, I will always hate him for that. I knew it was a bad idea when he started it and unfortunately I was proven correct.
You don't get tired of making yourself look like an idiot, do you?
Tax returns, even those for public figures are PRIVATE INFORMATION. I know facts are kryptonite to lefty whiners like you, but here you go, read 'em and weep, cupcake:
http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/web/presidentialtaxreturns
Just because candidates have willingly provided this information since the 70's, it doesn't mean you get to see it. See the above? PROTECTED BY LAW?? Let me know if you're still lost.
And Denise, I've had insurance all my life, because unlike welfare-sucking, job-dodging, babby-daddy ghetto trash like you, I actually work. It's the entire country that's sick of paying for your welfare and food stamps for GENERATIONS. It's the hand-outers like you that are bankrupting the country.
Wait, I'm not done embarrassing your ignorant ass, yet.
Again, I know facts hurt, but your precious dems VOTED for those wars:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution
And here's the quotes from all those democrats, with the same intelligence the republicans had, that believed Sadaam had WMD:
Funny how you lefties seem to forget how the democrats believed Iraq had WMD before the war, too. But it sure is fun trying to rewrite history, huh?
Dennis - You DO KNOW that it was people in the Democrat Party who started the "birther" movement and filed the first law suit against Mr Obama. So what IS wrong with you "jerk offs"?
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/02/08/the-secret-history-of-the-birthers.html
Yup, Hillary herself was question it. Hmmmmm...
OK scum bag. I made my first payment into the Social Security system when I was 13, my parents had to sign a work permit for me to work. I worked all through High School and afterwards before I went to Viet Nam. After I got back I was continuously employed till I retired last year at 62.
I get so tired of low life's like you blaming everybody else for what's wrong in this country. Man up and admit your Republican presidents have screwed us over and as usual and Democrat has had to come in and clean up your mess.
I take pride in being my brothers keeper and helping others when they need help. I believe my tax dollars should be spent to help others. The cheaters are far out numbered by the truly needy. Just because you possess zero humanity doesn't mean the rest of us don't. So you can shove your ghetto trash crap back up your sleazy butt jaxoff. Go pollute the faux boards.
Yes, Hillary did. Now she has worked with the man for almost 4 years. It was put to rest then. The birther movement was a true tea party invention and you know it. You low information scum wouldn't let it die.
That's great Denise, I'm glad you've held whatever illustrious positions a genius like you must have held all your life.
I notice since I've embarrassed you on the fact that the dems voted for Iraq too and the fact that taxes are private by law, that you just decided to turn the discussion towards how you've worked and how everything is the republicans' fault.
Great. Jimmy Carter "inherited" a mess because of OPEC before him, which I'm sure you remember if you're as old as you claim. And unemployment just got worse under his "guidance" and mortgage interest rates topped 18%. Stagflation under Carter sure did hit that ol' misery index, didn't it? As bad as Carter was (and he was bad!) I don't quite remember him blaming Ford and Nixon before him. Nor do I remember the press blaming them, either. What I DO remember is that common sense ruled back then, and the country voted his ass out. And rightly so. We need to do the same with Obama.
And if you're as generous as you claim, just write a higher amount of what you owe to donate to the government come tax time...they'll gladly take your money. Or you can volunteer at church groups and feeding the homeless like I do, or get involved with literacy for adults like I do ...either way, it's up to you. Just don't rewrite history and make up silly facts just to suit your ridiculous and transparent bull$h*t and to support this absolute failure of an administration...which all economic indicators PROVE.
I'll continue posting here, thank you for your concern. This board is in desperate need of facts.
They voted for it because they got lied to and they believed what they were told. WMDs my butt.
Well, they sure won't be able to look to you for facts. You and facts aren't very close friends.
I volunteered close to 400 hours last year alone. What can you say? Oh, I forgot, your type doesn't help others.
I'm gone. I have better things to do then converse with the likes of you.
Oh yes, the democrats had different intelligence than the republicans...and even while Clinton was still president! Brilliant. Please keep the comedy coming!
I guess you need the kind of adult literacy my volunteer group provides, because you missed all the volunteer work I clearly typed above. Sorry, those words are kind of big...I'll try to use smaller words for you next time.
What a joke, Mittens and Ryan can't remember which lie they told last!
OBAMA 2012!!!!!!!
I know, right?
Like lying about closing Gitmo or repealing the Patriot Act? Or keeping tax cuts after promising to let them expire? Like "putting on a pair of comfortable shoes" and marching alongside everyone else if collective bargaining were ever taken away from labor?
...oh, wait...
Interesting... Closing loopholes won't cover a "giant price tag", but a tax increase for millionaires WILL cover President Obama's "giant price tag"?
I get using Mr. Clinton's words to associate with a successful president, but at least try to get the "arithmetic" right...
"Romulian Romney" loves tax loopholes for the top 1%, and he especially likes his own tax loopholes. "Richie Rich" Ryan at first likes his own Tax Plan that would crucify the Middle Class, the Working Poor, the elderly, and the disabled. Now "Richie Rich" Ryan is pretendng to not understand his own plan for taxes, and has blindly accepted the "Bain Tax Plan" which has no specifics. No new numbers, and no vision for the future.
Just like Ms. Pelosi & Mr. Reid let the opportunity pass to create a "fairer" tax code? Perhaps the wealthy Democrat legislators like the code just the way it is...
Hey Joe have you noticed that your boss can't even get anyone in congress, including those from your own party, to vote for his budget proposals? Obviously even the Democrat's in Congress think the big Mr Obama's ideas are fiscally irresponsible.
Yet again Mitt Romney doesn't offer specifics. He also stated that voters should trust him based upon his principles. But if history tells us anything, Mitt Romney doesn't hold to his principles. He has been a flip flopper of epic proportions. If you want a longer analysis of Romney's "principles", check out:
Joe Biden is certainly proving to be the "Pee Wee Herman" of the Democrat party. Or maybe he was just pulling a "Bill Clinton", snuggling up to the biker chick. Only difference, Clinton did it in the people's oval office. Joe was probably thrilled that someone actually wanted to sit on his lap. I suspect if a journalist asked Mrs Biden what she thought of it, her answer would be "rather her than me". This administration has certainly lowered the bar. Low morals, No. No morals is more like it!
President Obama's attempt to tie himself to President Clinton is wrong on so many levels, including the "Biden Show".
He can't name any because he has no intention of closing any loopholes for the wealthy.
That's right.
We all know the problem with the economy is that the poor and middle class don't pay enough taxes!
Mittens: "I'll say whatever you want me to say. Pleeese vote for me!"
Obama 2006: "Gay people should be able to get married."
Obama 2008: "Gay people shouldn't be able to get married."
Obama 2012: "Gay people should be able to get married."
Obama 2006: "It's a failure of leadership when we raise the debt limit."
Obama 2008: "I'll close Gitmo."
Obama 2008: "I'll let those tax cuts expire."
Obama 2008: "I'll repeal the Patriot Act."
Obama 2008: "If they ever try to take collective bargaining away, I'll put in a pair of comfortable shoes and march alongside everyone else that protests."
Now what is it you were saying about saying anything to get elected??
That's the whole problem; not just with Romney, but Republican ideology. To reiterate: Lower taxes, no cuts to defense, no immediate cuts to Medicare.
Those positions cannot be reconciled with fiscal responsibility. Not with the deficit we've got. (and the Republicans themselves helped create).
I've long thought that the strength of the tea party was based on the fact that most Americans benefit from big government spending but don't know it. Things like the home mortgage interest deduction are taken for granted. And that once Americans figure out how spending austerity actually affects them, they would be caught by surprise, and lash out at the party making those cuts.
So Romney can't spell out what he'd do, because what he plans to do will affect the middle class and poor seniors that rely on certain tax expenditures and Medicaid just to stay above water. He's enslaved by an ideology that doesn't give him any wiggle room
Romney is asking the middle class to trust him that wealthy people won't be able to find creative ways to avoid taxes after he eliminates loopholes - none of which he's willing to pin himself down on.
That's not trickle down, it's tinkle on.
What has obama and biden said that they are going to do to improve the economy. raise taxes on the rich.. BIG DEAL that will run the country for two weeks....what happens afterwards? ZERO..........
wind farm subsidies
Hey downwind of a GP speech would generate some real Kilowatts!!