CHARLOTTE, N.C. – President Barack Obama will ask voters for another four years in office tonight, arguing that he needs more time in order to fully address some of the nation’s deepest-rooted problems.
“I won’t pretend the path I’m offering is quick or easy. I never have. You didn’t elect me to tell you what you wanted to hear,” Obama will say tonight at the Democratic National Convention, according to excerpts released by his campaign.
“You elected me to tell you the truth. And the truth is, it will take more than a few years for us to solve challenges that have built up over decades,” he will add.
NBC's Chuck Todd, Savannah Guthrie and Tom Brokaw join Brian Williams to discuss the events of the last day of the Democratic National Convention.
Related: Obama faces another defining convention speech
The president’s pitch seems, in part, to acknowledge voters’ disappointment that the “change” Obama had promised to bring about during his 2008 campaign had come slowly, something the president himself often notes on the campaign trail.
But as Republicans continue to argue this week that voters today are no better off than when Obama took office, Obama will lay out elements of a second-term agenda he would seek if re-elected.
Slideshow: Democratic National Convention
Among Obama’s promises would be a $4 trillion reduction in the deficit over the next decade, and creating 1 million new manufacturing jobs by the end of his second term. Obama will also call for halving net oil imports by 2020 and cutting the growth rate of college tuition in half over the next 10 years, too.
It’s not clear whether Obama will offer much detail as to how he might accomplish these proposals, especially since tonight’s speech is essentially a political one. The preview offered by his campaign says, though, that savings associated with ending wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would be re-invested in the economy.
“But know this, America: Our problems can be solved. Our challenges can be met. The path we offer may be harder, but it leads to a better place. And I’m asking you to choose that future,” Obama will say. “That’s what we can do in the next four years, and that’s why I’m running for a second term as president of the United States.”


I, for one, can NOT wait!
People seem to forget that is a pen in his hand, not a freakin magic wand!
4 MORE FOR 44!! We got your back Mr. President!
ps: The Dow appears to have confidence in him! On the night of the President acceptance speech it closed at it's highest level during his Presidency!
Get a job. You have been on here all day. Do something with your pathetic life.
Joe; You know Feisty has been on here all day....so you have too!
Why don't you take your own advice....."get a job, do something with your pathetic life".
Thank you President Obama for your diligence and commitment to America's future. There are an awful lot of wet blankets out there (particularly in the media), but people who pay close attention to the job of the presidency know you have given it all for the middle and working classes and veterans.
We have followed you closely and are stunned at the what you have accomplished, not for your benefit, but for the American people.
Democrats on your behalf have fought hard for you this week at the Convention. It's what you deserve.
No one has fought harder for us than you. The stress and strains are evident whenever we see you. That's what hard work will do to a person. We ourselves will be a little worn by the time this campaign is over. We intend to work just as hard for you as you did for us.
We are proud to call you our president.
Four years isn't enough.
Thank you for always believing in America. It's why we believe in you.
Feisty must spend her entire day in front of the computer to pounce on each article posted on MSNBC. She wouldn't know the truth if it smacked her in the face. She is a typical kool-aid drinker with no brain to think for herself.
Oh lookie. One of feists little guppies. Get a job Drag, you have been here all day also. Oh, and Pat, your little mushy post makes me want to vomit.
I'm with him Feisty, all the way. Early voting starts in Texas on 22 Oct 12....I'm there!
Last time is was' Silence GOP LIES' which they continue....now we must 'Stop the Party of No'!.......
Vote for all Democrats!....4 more for 44!
Another deep thinking cerebral twit chimes in!
Could you try to comment on the article and not on my comments, Snookie?
Thanks for your cooperation! ;o)
Dragon,
That's above Joey's pay grade! lol
Why shouldn't Feisty be on here all day? It's convention week for the democrats.
First Read just isn't the same without her.
it would be pleasant
I think the Prez had a rude awakening when he himself realized that was a pen in his hand and not a magic wand. Perhaps he over promised just a wee bit???
Mr. Prez couldn't even steer us in the right direction in 3 1/2 years, what in the world makes people think he can get us out of this recession? His policies only work when there is money in the ecomomy and even then money runs out.
Thanks Pat!
What is UP with all the right wing control freaks?
They may talk to the women in their lives like that, but, this one isn't taking any @!$%# from them!
Oh look - "Christian" Joe is back with more of his nastiness! Joey and Jersy - many of us have jobs and multi-task - something apparently beyond both of your abilities!
Feisty - CANNOT WAIT for tonight!!!! He will put Romney's speech in the garbage where it belongs! My guess is Mitt will be curled up in a ball before tonight is over wondering what he got himself into - and Annie will be screeching "but it's OUR turn!!!!"
Obama/Biden 2012
DailyKos: Today
With all the great speeches from the Democratic Convention, it's probably easy to over look the fact that investors are bullish on the prospects for corporate earnings.
The Standard & Poor's 500-stock index closed at 1432.12, its highest point since January 2008.
The Nasdaq Composite closed at 3135.81, its highest level in more than a decade, reaching a level not seen since the dot com crash of 2000.
The Dow closed at 13292, its highest point since December 2007.
Don't go anywhere Feisty. We're almost there. 2 months.
Seeking,
Willard is such a puss, he claims he won't be watching the speech tonight! lmao
Obviously, he has never heard of Sun Tzu!
Never Pat!
We have been doing this far to long to take our foot off the gas now! ;o)
Picture looks almost like Obama is puckering up getting ready to do a lip lock with Wild Bill Cllinton.. LMAO
I am sorry I haven't posted in a long time. I hope the President has a great evening. Everything has been a great builldup to his acceptance speech. One thing is for sure, he has never lied and will not in the future.
Feisty, I always appreciate your comments.
Oh my Chuck! So good to see you. Where have you been?!
How I have missed you.
OMG Chuck!
Loooong time... no see!
I hope you won't be such a stranger from now until the election, I miss your strong progressive voice!
Ditto what Pat said!
Hope everything is well in your neck of the woods!
The Dow and stock markets have nothing to do with the potus !!!
"Among Obama’s promises would be a $4 trillion reduction in the deficit over the next decade, and creating 1 million new manufacturing jobs by the end of his second term."
Wow what a lofty Goal. 23 million Americans are unemployed,230 thousand people are added to the workforce each month, but he says he'll create One million new jobs in the next four years.
We have a $16 trillion dollar debt, the Federal Government is spending at least 1.2 trillion a year more in deficit spending than the Fed is taking in, borrowing 40 cents of every dollar the Fed spends, But he's going to cut that deficit spending by $4 trillion over the next ten years.
Wow I'm impressed.
Instead of Spending 1.2 trillion a year in deficit spending he'll reduce it by 400 billion a year so we'll only be borrowing 800 billion a year instead of 1.2 trillion?
Yea that will put the U.S. on Firm Financial footing.
Joe Thomas, you're mistaken if you think I care what you think of my posts. I don't.
I can't afford another 4yrs of CHANGE.
No one knew when this mess would bottom out or that it would turn into a depression. 20/20 hindsight doesn't count. He sure learned his lesson about speaking too soon. Humbled him. I can't wait for his 2ed term, and then, Hillary.
BTW, I'm retired, so I can be on here 24/7 if I want. Just in case some of you ran out of posters to attack.
@Janine
Neither can Nevadans
12% unemployment
housing market destroyed
skyrocketing food prices
national debt over $16 TRILLION
"There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt."
John Adams 1826
Janine, then vote Republican. They need you so they can raise your taxes while the rich get the breaks. The GOP's idea is that the system work only for them.
Good for you, Feisty! Most of these guys have no women in their lives because they lack the maturity and intellect to cope with strong, intelligent females.
Hi Feisty, Pat, and S-cat
If Clinton's speech took the wind out of the Repubes sails last night, I think O's speech tonight will sink their boat for good.....
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O&Joe 2012
the feisty deadhead says she's got Obama's backside. As a matter of fact, she has her head so far up his backside, she looks like she is wearing an Obama mask.
As dumb as they come.
NO MORE YEARS. END OF THE ERROR.
Feisty has nothing better to do. Since work , cleaning , shopping and doing something intellectual is out of the question for her. All she does now is just wait for her welfare check and pray that someone will buy her food stamps so she can buy more booze.
That's why she supports Obama, the welfare president.
It's time we get a REAL president and a change for the better.
Romney - Ryan 2012
GT,
Bill sunk Willard's battleship! lol
The RWNJ's are positively rabid today!
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
Hi GT, the GOP have no one like him. Christie's speech was a dud. A major dud. So wasn't Romney's. Ryan's speech will always go down as the speech of lies.
We have people in our party who truly care about the future of America. Wonderful wonderful convention. Can't wait for President Obama.
masochist.
Pat Boston: are you eating shrooms?? Obama hasn't done crap for my small business or any small business here in the U.S. , but he had no problem finding $800B for the corporate giants. All he accomplished was taking money from my pocket and other hard working middle class Americans to fund illegals and his social agenda. I do have to admit that i'm better off in one area of life and that is i have alot more ammunition for the civil uprising that brews behind the scenes, and when all hell breaks out, the first ones i'm aiming for are DEMOCRATS!
JERSY GIRL 1
Yo! Jeysey goil! jyou wanna go eat som fillie stake!?! ba tha waey, jyou got a brane naw....no waey
the vitriol from the right is getting as bitter as an overripe lemon. They show their desperation by multi posting around the clock. They're worried that the President will seal the election with tonight's speech. That may well happen, but we still need every last vote to send these tea baggers back to their mothball scented closets. I won't argue tonight. I am going to enjoy the President's acceptance speech. But tomorrow, the gloves come off once again.
Feisty, I have an IQ of 140. I have a college degree and own my own business. I definitely can think for myself. I doubt your IQ is anywhere close to that and I seriously doubt you have a degree in anything.
speakthetruth: nice. Real nice.
The Dow was higher because of new from Europe....not anything to do with Obama or faith in him.
Obama himself said that if he couldn't do it in four years, he didn't deserve another term. Unemployment is still higher than when he took office. Only the rich are getting richer, unless you think the stock market is the playground of the "middle class" and "the poor". We have the largest tax increase on the middle class in contemporary history in ObamaCare and we're still living GWB's foreign policy, even though Obama promised to end it.
The idea that people's votes are still up for grabs is ludicrous. Liberals aren't voting GOP and conservatives aren't voting Dem...the few percentage points of "swing voters" will make the difference. Their cnoice is between a guy who is clearly in over his head still after 4 years as President and has introduced the enslavement of every American to the corrupt health insurance corporations or a guy who made millions by running a business under the rules that Bill Clinton put into play. Oh, wait a minute...no one likes to talk about how Bill Clinton is the father of offshoring jobs...I forgot.
I don't really like the idea of the rich getting richer but Democrats look at economics like complete imbeciles. Bill Clinton created the sub-prime mortgage industry. Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law. Bill Clinton repealed Great Depression Era laws designed to prevent banks from gambling with depositors' money. Bill Clinton removed the tariffs on Chinese goods and gave China the "most favored nation" trading status. And Democrats get absolutely giddy at the thought of Bill Clinton blaming the GOP for all the economic mess that imploded our economy...? It absolutely must take a complete lack of ability to see "cause and effect" to be a Democrat...
Oh...and it was Bill Clinton who attacked al-Queda in Somalia and provoked the first World Trade Center attack as well as the attack of 9/11. We all know what that has cost us. Hell, Osama bin Laden was offered up to Bill Clinton on a silver platter and he said, "no thanks...let him go." I can't think of any single person in our government who could be held more accountable for the attacks on our country by al-Queda than Bill Clinton.
Yet, Bill Clinton is a Democratic demi-god....which only proves that Democrats are absolute morons.
Oh please send this clown packing, he don't hold up one honor that should be given to President of the United States. He's out of there!! No more, Nada!!!
Sandra Fluke's speech last night was an embarrassment to all educated women. She basically said that she needs Obama ( a man ) to make the decisions for women's reproductive health.
Given it to the middle and Working class righ up the Keester !
Anybody who thought that this recession could be cleaned up in a few years was delirious, and that includes many Democrats (including myself). But through growing knowledge from research and experience, we have realized that this type of recession is hard to overcome, particularly if one half of the political establishment seeks to oppose you at every turn. The stimulus was a great legislative accomplishment, but it was too small to deal with the recession entirely. Republicans took the supposed "failure" of the stimulus to advocate their usual supply-side remedies; more tax cuts for the wealthy, more deregulation for bankers and corporate leaders, and less government spending on social programs.
In 2010, Americans elected Republicans to the House and the Senate, not to obstruct Obama and the Democrats, but to "moderate" them (even though they already were pretty centrist) and to cooperate with them to get the economy going. Instead, the Republicans stonewalled with increasing vigor, threatening a government shutdown in April of 2011 and a default on the debt in July, which would have sent stock markets deep into the red and thrown the United States, and possibly the world, back into recession. They rejected centrist ideas on economic stimulus (aid to states, infrastructure spending, tax breaks for small businesses) and on deficit reduction (a combination of tax increases and spending cuts), preferring gridlock and chaos to compromise and order. Hell, they put the nation's creditworthiness on the line for tax cuts for the wealthy, but balked at cutting taxes for middle and lower income Americans, citing the need to "pay for them," while tax cuts for fat cats had been put on the nation's credit card.
On November 6, America will decide which path it wants to take for the next generation. One side offers a simple message: cut taxes for the rich even more, let the banks do what they will, severely ax federal programs for the poor, the malnourished, and the elderly, and restrict the rights of voters merely because of their political preference. This side refuses to admit that these policies, which have been enacted for the past 30 years, have utterly failed at producing economic growth and prosperity for all Americans. This side does not serve the American people; their loyalty lies not with the United States and the ideals of democracy and social and economic equality, but with the corporations and billionaires that line their campaign pockets.
The other side, although somewhat tainted by corporate greed and the scourge of big money, is the only side offering a realistic path. In a more perfect world; hell, in a world that actually believed in reason and facts, the paths that the two parties would offer would not be so starkly contrasted, and the ideas that this side, the Democratic side, offers would be offered by BOTH parties. But alas, we do not live in a rational world. This path, the path of rationality, offers a reasonable approach to our nation's problems. Instead of gutting social programs and throwing seniors to the mercy of the monster that conservatives dare call the "free market," this path offers a way to strengthen social programs, reduce the deficit without abandoning critical investments in crucial sectors, and pave the way for a more efficient and egalitarian healthcare and tax system that demands that all men pay according to their ability, not their social status. I am not entirely for the Democratic platform; I would personally repeal the Bush tax rates and raise taxes on everyone and establish a single-payer healthcare system modeled, but this is as good a start as any. America, this election is the election of a generation. We botched things up in 2004 and 2010, and we will pay for those decisions for years to come. But if we mess up this election, you can kiss the America that you and I know and love, the America that embraces both rugged individualism AND community-style collectivism and refuses to tell people that you're on your own, goodbye. Please, please America, don't botch this election.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
Just one question there right wing nut jobs. If the republicans are so great, why was there no sign of Bush or Chaney at the RNC? Could it be that you pathetic losers just can't justify Stupid! Look at Mr. etch-a-sketch and Lyin' Ryan! Just as clueless as Bush.
You should have seen fiesty deadhead rail against Aken when she couldn't pay a guy to rape her.
And fiesty......when we want your opinion, we will tell you what it is.
Sorry darling, from what I have read out of your pie-hole, YOU couldn't compete with a carrot!
At best, you managed to pass the GED test on your 12th attempt!
Oh, and, you won't mind if I just don't take *your word* for it! lmfao!
How much is pooper-scooping paying these day?
Do the unicorns reside in your front or back yard cup-cake?
Now be a good keyboard warrior and STFU! You are making an ASS out of yourself!
Pat Boston MA.
#1.3 - 'Four years isn't enough.'
Apparently it wasn't. Still at least 8.3%m more than 20,000,000 out of work, deficit hasn't been halved. Think four more will do it?
Feisty,
(directly above)
Classy.
F&B666
Our “feel good” experiment is about to expire. It’s time to move on Mr. President.
Feisty has declared that she works for a company that she hates and has constantly criticized her REPUBLICAN BOSSES. Therefore unless she has been fired or taking a day off to sit on her computer she is robbing her bosses of money by not working at her job and using the time at her job to be on the computer and stealing money from her bosses by using the time she is paid for to watch the comments and write the comments.
So what is it? Has she been fired or is she taking time off to spend it on the net or is she at the job using the work time to spend on the net.
She has never come up with an original idea, a problem she shares with Obummer. Most people will agree a lot of noise, no sense and constant criticism about other commenters and nothing that has any substance.
Hey y'all quit complaining about Feisty being on here all day! It keeps her off the street, where she'd undoubtably scare the crap out of small children!
Obama will likely lose and America will win. This election has become a struggle to restore the individual liberties our founders bequeathed to us.
Obama will not state his goals, only tell the liberal zombie army what they want to hear so that he can stay in long enough to pursue his real agenda as laid out in the smash hit 2016 Obama's America, an agenda that actually has as little to do with liberal goals as with those of conservatives.
I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who votes for this self serving idiot because they are voting their own freedoms away.
......................"Here we go again".......................
More excuses for NOT completing his PROMISES. Yep, I agree totally with Mr. Obama and give him an INCOMPLETE (F-) also.
First excuse: "I inherited a mess."
Second excuse: "I didn't get Republican support."
Third excuse: "The American taxpayer money ran out."
Four more years of Obamamania and we (less Progressives) will have to LOOK high and low for any reminiscence of America.
ofcourse............................you didn't believe any of that job crap did you. Definitely a handouter.She possibly could claim a small business, welfare fraud.
Bill Clinton said it best. What Clinton was able to glean from the entire RNC Convention week can be summarized by three GOP statements:
1.) We destroyed America's economy and left you one gigantic mess
2.) You haven't cleaned it up fast enough
3.) Re-elect us so we can DO IT AGAIN!!
I just spit up a little bit in my mouth.
Aw, hell, I say give him more time. He hasn't got the national debt up to $20 trillion yet which it's projected he will do by 2016, and we still have some nuclear warheads he needs to get rid of and make us a nuke free nation. That will all mean the irretrieveable end of 'Merica as we know and (used to) love it. That's the long range, long dreamed-of goal of the Democrat Party, so let him get on with it so he can stand among the ruins with Pelosi, Reid and the progs and say--Mission Accomplished! Forward!
We understand, Mr. President. The Republicans want to go back in a hurry and dismantle everything again. They enjoy chaos, poverty, and they enjoy WARS.
All the work that you have put into the Health Program, all the work that you have done trying to re-estructure the economy, and on top trying to be sensible with the enviornment.
The REpublicans are ready TH THROW IT ALL AWAY
wE SUPPRT YOU president Obama
Obama/Biden 2012
I can hardly wait for the debates to begin! Romney lacks even rudimentary thinking skills as evidenced by this quote from the GOP debates:
"I'm Mitt Romney, and yes, Wolf, that is also my first name."
—Mitt Romney, addressing Wolf Blitzer at the November, 2011 GOP debate, getting his own name wrong (his first name is ''Willard,'' and his middle name is ''Mitt'')
President Obama is going to clean Willard's clock!
WOW! Jersey girl must be trying to compete with Snooki, Fesity. Snooky has much more class, though
John-2032532
John, so did I, but then I realized it was subtle satire and he meant it very ironically. Much better than anything I could have posted, for sure. It's actually pretty damn funny when you think of, say, Chris Matthews who would write it seriously and worshipfully with a str8 face. Pat in Boston is a genius.
See ya on the golf course. :)
Romney is thinking about time too!....Time in the big house! Not the White house! Romney show us your taxes.....Prove you are not the tax cheat dodger! There is only one reason not to show them!
BAIN BEING INVESTIGATED ON TAXES!
From Forbes.com 9/1/12
The New York Times is reporting that Bain Capital, the private equity firm founded by GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, is among a number of firms being investigated by New York Attorney General, Eric Schneiderman, for failing to pay taxes.
The New York AG's Taxpayer Protection Bureau has issued subpoenas to at least twelve financial firms, including Bain, looking into whether the companies converted management fees (taxed as ordinary income) paid by investors into fund investments which are taxed at a dramatically lower rate.
The controversial tax avoidance scheme came to light last month when Bain Capital internal financial information was published online by Gawker.com , however the investigation had reportedly commenced prior to the publication and is not believed to be tied to the document dump.
According to the Times
While Governor Romney has not been active at Bain Capital for quite some time, he does continue to receive profits from the company and held investments in some of the funds that utilized the tax avoidance strategy.
In answer to the republicans question:"Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?" Yes, Yes, Yes! The stock market hit its highest level since 2007 today!
I'm sure that Romney is shaking in his boots soooo afraid of the nonsense that Obomination will spew tonight.
Romney will row, row, row the boat gently down the stream and for dear old BO being POTUS in 2012 is just a dream!!!!!!
Naturally, you will hunker down a swallow hard like a good truck stop troll.
Repubs want to simplify and make people forget the damage they have caused and will cause. So they simply say are you better off then you were 4 years ago?
We all know the economy was crashing and losing over 700,000 jobs per month because of greedy rich. Dems and President Obama stopped it.
We all know repubs on the night Obama took office promised to obstruct every bill that would make President Obama look good in 2012, and they tried, even blocking health care for 911 responders. Record amount of blocking bills to take the economy down.
Repubs are waging social war against women on health care, equal pay, and control over their own bodies, with laws which will turn the clock back over a hundred years.
Repubs are creating voter suppression laws all over the country to prevent the elderly from voting to protect Social Security, Medicare, medicaid, ACA care, the Poast office, etc. Voter suppression laws to stop the young from same day registration to keep them from voting democratic party, voter suppression laws to keep the poor and middle class from voting...
Yes the repubs want you to forget how they want the greedy rich taking all of the rest of your money they didn't get when they crashed the economy.
Repubs don't want you to remember what Bush/Cheney did when they lied nation into war killing thousands of our troops and wounding and killing thousands more.
Repubs want to to forget the debt they caused with the two unfunded wars etc.
So they simply say are you better off?.......Why don't they ask... How good are repubs doing at obstructing recovery from the damage they caused? That is the question you should be asking!
Yes the repubs don't want you to remember how they obstruct you from recovering the economy crash.....
Remember what the repubs have done and what they will do to you if elected again. Destroy the nation even more.
Vote Obama/Biden and Democratic Party, and finish the recovery for the middle class.
For you Libs...
Joe Thomas , Feisty Redhead has a job. Its called getting paid by the Campaign to keep pumping up Obama. She has always chimed in first. Well that's because she has a job to do for her failed Messiah. What many of you fail to recognize is that your all falling for the biggest and oldest game in the world. Divide and Conquer. You keep blaming Bush and the Republicans.
Yet all of you want to twist it to your parties liking. The problem is very clear in America. Its time for a Third Honest Party that does Care for America and her traditions and values that extend to all Americans and a party of United Common Sense States People. Those who are not interested in pleasing their donors and special interests. Both parties are at fault.
You sit there and listen to the man who helped us get here by signing in to law the Graham,Bilel, Leach act. and they all called it the Bill that would be the greatest they have done. Go ask any Finance professor and you will be told that law was a very big tool that moved our economy this way. Allowing banks to get in the futures markets taking away the Stegal Act that protected us in the first place from things like this. Then Clinton wanted the lending laws to be loosened so that those who could not afford a home because of bad credit could now get one. So yeah remember the Clinton and Bush economies. Since Obama has no answer for this mess he speaks and lets speak on his behalf one of the culprits in this mess.
Hey Jennifer Psaki,
AKA FEISTY REDHEAD (obumbo's press secretary)...Why don't you post under your real name and stop lying to the American public that just think you are an average citizen.
Typical behavior behind the back demonpuke tactics!
Californiapagen...
Good for you that you are retired, however by currnet economic measures the great recession ended around july of 2009.
What we have here is nearly 4 years of the obama recovery plan. The first 2 consisting of trying to "save" public sector jobs at the expense of the private sector and creating over 4000 pages of legislation impacting the private sector with uncertainty as to even if will do what obama says it will.
Seems that obamas ego is so great that with the uproar of a stalling economy in 2010 and the rise of the teaparty he commissioned a bipartisan debt reduction panel and promptly ignored them.
His leadership skills are practically non existant. He couldn't even get the democrat controlled house and senate to create a budget plan to work our way back economically over time and now he is begging us to give him 4 more years of his arrogance and his profound willingness to promote divisiveness within our society.
No thanks californiapagen. I can overlook a lot of political screwups and foot in the mouth rhetoric from both sides, but promoting divisiveness over unity I refuse to except.
One and done for obama and if romney can't create unity one and done for him as well.
I just want to know, who lowered the troll bridge?
Ya'll need to make up your mind, am I Jen Psaki or Rachel Maddow?
Get it together little toll-be's...lol
BTW: Have I mentioned how flattered I am that I cause you all to go even more bat @!$%# crazy?
I imagine in your fantasy world you are also pretty and popular with the boys, too, right?
Jersey girl,
Every Jersey girl I met at the Shore was a bimbo. I think most of them are. and yes, I have two degrees and 28 credits toward my Doctorate Jersey girl! I also think that republicans need to go back to school to take Economics which says "Trickle Down Economics" doesn't work!
Wow! You're a true splinter of the Tea Party nazis. That's exactly how they plan on running this country.
Thanks for making that clear.
By the way, did you copy that from the RNC Platform?
Hello Feisty.......Going to be another great night! Republicons were forced to watch the truth about themselves last night by Pres. Bill Clinton. Trolls attack him , but forget about the candidate Skank Newt and Skank number 3 who they wanted in the white house!
republicons....party of Newt Gingrich who was cheating on his first wife while trying to impeach President Clinton. Repub party of Skank Newt who waits til his first wife goes into hospital to tell wife he is divorcing her for skank wife #2. Then divorces wife #2 as she gets sick and marries another wife ...number 3 who he was cheating with on wife #2. Repubs..... the party of Newt who cheated on his first two wives and then runs for president with skank #3 and repubs had him on top of the manure pile for a time. Imagine all the impeaching and screaming and whining including the whiney rants on this blog about Clinton...and repubs wanted Skank Newt and first /3rd skank in the White house......This is your republicon party. The party that tells everyone else how to live their life through the republicon god, but is acting godless themselves!
Hey Jennifer Psaki,
AKA FEISTY REDHEAD
You're not denying it....
Feisty....It has been pretty tough to name one highlight of last nights speechafyin! So many to choose from...
Yes.....Hard to pick out a highlight of the speech. Maybe calling out Ryan and Romney stealing the 716 billion from Medicare and giving it to the greedy rich......instead of putting it back into health care like Obama plan entails.....Yeah...I think that lie repubs push and the Ryan plan that takes that money from health care and gives it to the rich for more tax breaks....Yeah that one was the highlight.
Arithmetic.....Romney knows how to make money, he simply wants to pass laws to take YOURS!
Obama/Biden 2012
Do you think he will try to tell the truth for once tonight? Doubt it. Like GM for instance. GM never paid back any of the money. They paid the first loan off by taking out a second loan so that doesn't count. Then we bought stock to give them more money but the problem is we bought the stock for over $34 a share now it is worth about $20 so billions again lost there. In June 79% of the cars GM sold was bought by the government, looks like more like GM Welfare to me. In July they were down 6%. Obama can't even tell the truth about them being first again, I guess he doesn't count Toyota because they took over that title.
Sorry, bozoboy, but your time is UP! You've lied and excused yourself for your failures long enough. now we're going to get back to capitalism instead of your socialist crap! Go back to IL!
StarSailing,
Let's celebtrate with some *popcorn* and red kool-aid... shall we? ;o)
I am still trying to figure out why, after the right wing nitwits stellar performance last week, they are foaming at their rabid mouths???
If it was such a success, why are they such an angry bunch of bee's?
What the @!$%#???? What do you mean "restore the individual liberties our founders bequeathed to us????" The "right" to be fired for joining a union and demanding better pay and work conditions??? The "right" to exclude people from the democratic process in order to win elections??? The "right" to have stagnant wages and increasing health and education costs while the wealthiest Americans glean trillions from our hard-earned labor??? The "right" of corporations to muck up the environment, make risky financial bets, and run the United States government??? What kind of rights are those??? Those are not the rights of equality and freedom that the Founding Fathers gave to us; those are the rights to allow others to dictate how we work, what we get paid, and who gets to write the laws of the land. This is not freedom from oppression; this is oppression, corporation-style.
Great, another partisan-hack movie. You guys should really stop trying to make Americans hate him and just accept that he is popular.
And I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who votes for that selfish corporate shill in the GOP because they are voting both their freedom and their livelihoods.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
If you think that this is some far out accusation, just listen and watch this interview that George Romney's wife gave when he was running for governor of Michigan in 1962 (courtesy of The Political Carnival).
Lenore Romney, Mitt's mother, says that her husband, Mitt's father, "was on welfare relief for the first years of his life."
Mitt Romney wouldn't be a multi-billionaire today if it weren't for the federal aid safety network provided to his father, period.
http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/11727-george-romney-mitt-s-father-was-on-welfare-relief-for-the-first-years-of-his-life
"If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
The man straight up said this, I don't know how Feisty/other libs, can defend him.
Hope and Change! Yeah!
Oh that was 4 years ago... What happened? Why is our soldiers handing loaded weapons to Afghanistan Nationals and then being told to turn around? Twelve dead in the last week and nothing on the news about it? Why do we have almost a 100k troops massed on the border of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia? Why did our President tell our troops in Afghanistan to retreat to the cities and allow the Taliban to regroup and attack? Why do we have twice the number of troops in Afghanistan and none of them being allowed to bring the fight to the enemy?
What happened to the Peace Protesters?
What the @!$%# is going on?
Why are you saying that increasing taxes will solve the debt problems when it won't even amount to a 1% increase in Federal Revenue? How are we going to solve a 16 Trillion dollar deficit? How are you going to fix Social Security now that it is going into the red? Will you be able to fix it in 3 years before all the money runs out? Medicare is going to be insolvent in 1916, what is the plan? What the @!$%# you mean you don't have a plan?
Oh... I'm to run around waving a little flag yelling out, "Hope and Change!"
That is what good little Feisty Redheads do...
All I want is answers.
No Hope, No Change... Vote Obama for 4 more years of the same.
speakthetruth,
I started my small business during Obama's term. Taxes have been reasonable and with a quality product and great customer service I have done very well. A little supply and demand + hard work=the American Dream or we could just sit around like you and threaten people. Idiot
"ps: The Dow appears to have confidence in him! On the night of the President acceptance speech it closed at it's highest level during his Presidency!"
Are you really that stupid? That was due to news from Europe about bonds, and absolutely nothing to do with the "Great Promiser".
Jersey Girl....don't worry about the libtards spewing their evil disease while HIDING behind the computer. You know they would never confront any of us face to face. We all know they're balless except for Fisty Ginger, she's got 4! By the way Clintons (the woman abuser) speech did not hit the mark for real Americans. THE DNC WAS AN EPIC FAIL AND WILL CONTINUE TONIGHT WITH THE BIG CLOWN!! Also look at where the camera goes and you will see where all the homeless people were placed.
http://townhall.com/columnists/briandarling/2012/07/16/obamas_outsourcing_of_jobs_foreign_policy_and_debt/page/full/
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 to save America!
Oh, but Mr Obama, you did say that if you didn't get it done in 3 years it would be a one term proposition. It is very convenient now that you are begging to keep your job that you conveniently forget your promise. That promise included, if you weren't the man for the job, which clearly you aren't, you would politely leave the stage.
I guess we can chalk this up to another of Obama's failed promises. Considering that he can't keep a promise, why should anyone vote for his re-election?
So, unoitall, just because you have lost the battle of wits in this venue you now want to meet on the playground for a slapfight? Sounds like you're being pretty damned immature not to say downright cowardly, little man.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Haven't we heard the deficit reduction thingy somewhere before?
Yeah, yeah, it was February 22, 2009 if I'm not mistaken. Something about the budget deficit of $1.3 trillion will be cut to $533 billion by fiscal year 2013, the end of the first term.
Maybe Barrack Hussein needs to put his training wheels back on his fiscal policy bicycle before he tries to lie to the American people about cutting anything again.
Better yet Mr. President, HOW ABOUT PASSING A FU**ING BUDGET!!!!!!!!!!!!
Running your picnics on continuing resolutions may have worked in Chicago but you can’t do it running a nation with $2.5 trillion in revenues. But then again how else can you hide what is really happening with the $2.4 trillion increased debt-ceiling we just passed last August that will need to be addressed at the beginning of next year. I’m sure some more hocus-pocus Keynesian economics will get it all straightened out.
Now, let’s look at them-thar manufacturing jobs.
Will this be 1 million manufacturing jobs including the 500,000 we have added in the last 3 ½ years or brand-spanking new ones? Will they be created, or created and saved? Will they be here on our soil or will GE CEO, Jeff Immelt, our “Jobs Czar” create them in China, his “second home market?”
Regardless, it doesn’t matter. The Information Technology & Innovation Foundation report, released in March, showed we have lost over 5.7 million manufacturing jobs in the last 12 years.
The cause of this can best be described by the “four T’s”.
Taxes. We have the highest corporate tax rate in the world. Of course this will never be addressed by Barrack Hussein because he hates big business. He prefers creating the 4 million low wage, low-no benefit service sector jobs that will never restore out economy.
Trade. Our useless and discriminatory “free-trade” policies that are anything but free. They’re managed at best and restrictive at worst. NAFTA (thank you Billy “Blue Dress” Clinton) is 2,000 pages long and 900 of which are tariff rates. Tariffs are NOT FREE!!!!
The simplest example of true free-trade can be found in our own Constitution. It’s in Article I, Section 9 which states:
No tax or duty shall be laid on articles exported from any
Statecountry. No preference shall be given by any regulation of commerce or revenue to the ports of oneStatecountry over those of another: nor shall vessels bound to, or from, oneStatecountry, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay duties in another. (changes mine)In 54 words we have the original North American Free Trade Agreement. Free trade equals NO taxes, duties, tariffs or other fees. And all you Libbies claim the Constitution is outdated.
Talent. Education must be a priority. Not college education, our K-12 education system. Our government run Public School Education system is an embarrassment. Just like our incompetent government continues its criminal progressive tax system and our unfair trade policies our education needs to be totally reformed. Sending illiterate students to college will do nothing to help us restore our manufacturing base. When most Americans read at an 8th grade level and we rank in the bottom 1/3 in math, science and reading when compared to other OECD nations we will languish in this recession for decades as the 21st century economies run by us.
Technology. This includes innovation, automation and understanding that decentralization will be a part of the new global economies. We will never see the menial monotonous assembly line jobs that were populated by an illiterate, unskilled, unmotivated labor force that existed in the 50’s-80’s. Those jobs will be outsourced to emerging nations with economies just like ours was at the turn of the 20th century. Increased, and more efficient, productivity will be the driving force in the new economies.
So, we’ll see how many of these things Barrack Hussein addresses tonight. I’m not holding my breath. I’m sure he’ll just repeat many of the same ideologies he spewed at us in 2008 and since.
I hope those of you who voted for Barrack Hussein in 2008, to pretend you weren’t racist, don’t do the same thing this November and prove you’re ignorant also.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
I have no problem meeting you somewhere in Cali tough guy......but I know you only want to pick on a jersey girl....punk bitch!!!
The truth? Does MSNBC ever tell the truth about this mysterious Socialist president??? The main stream liberal media keeps refusing to reveal Obama's background. Why is that? You attack a good moral man who has spent millions of his own money trying to help people, unlike Obama who wants to take YOUR money to redistribute the wealth and make us all equal. You lib's just can't analyze the facts. Obama was a pot smoking, got bad grades and hung around with communist radicals. Doesn't that raise a red flag with you dopes? He is spending millions to hide his college records. Who is backing that? One of his back room billionaire backers? What is he afraid we are going to find out about him? That he was stupid and received mediocre grades or that he was a foreign student who had his education paid for they the American taxpayer. What's he hiding?? Do you care?
Hey Brian, find a job yet, you freeloader? I'm getting tired of supporting you.
Hey folks, I think what bothers me the most is how divided we are. It's very hateful the way we speak to each other. It hurts. I don't like it.
We are all Americans here. We are all passionate about our political beliefs. I respect that. We need checks and balances. I'm thankful for opposition. It's a choice at least. But why so dirty and personal? Damn, it's a tough time for America.
Everyone has simple one liners about what both sides have done or will do when we all know it's not that simple. It is government after all. Some politicians in both parties are crooks and saints. Some have good intentions and make bad decisions, some have personal agendas and make dumb decisions.
I can't even imagine working in high political office in this country. No wonder why we always end up with half ass choices. Real hard working individuals with honesty and integrity wouldn't touch that job with a ten foot pole, lol. Would you? Not me.
I don't understand why we are so hateful. I'm thankful that there are people still out there willing to put themselves through all of that crap to serve and take the job.
We watch when Pres after Pres through the years gets old and grey from the stress and lack of rest. Imagine what they know. It's way more than we ever will. They have to ingest and face real and serious problems that affect all of us, all day and everyday. It must be absolutely brutal.
The other thought I had is that there are no great Presidents. Some have done great things, no doubt. They all have had tough decisions and have made mistakes. They are human.
Personally, I would have liked to see a woman be President for a real change. Not Sarah or Hillary. Maybe Hillary but she is a bit of a career politician. I think a woman can be hard and decisive yet compassionate and understanding more than any man could. Just my opinion.
I guess to wrap up my thoughts here without going on and on, I want to remind people that we are one nation here. We can't forget that it's ok to agree to disagree, lol. Just because we don't see eye to eye doesn't mean we don't care about our country, our home. I love this place. I love our differences and diversity.
Repubs, I don't always agree with you, but, I have to say that I respect you and how you feel. I have said some crappy crap on these boards before and I'm sorry. The bottom line is, we are all in this together. We don't always agree but we all live with the results. We don't all have to like them, lol.
I had a strong dislike for for W. There were some things that I did like. Not a lot, lol. But, my point is I wanted him to be successful for all of us. I want Obama to be successful for ALL of us. If it's Romney's turn then so be it. I will stand behind him too. Whoever our President is, that's our guy. They get 4 yrs and if the people want him out then that's it. He is out. Let's just hope things get better for everyone regardless. That is all I honestly care about. I want us all to be great. Thanks for reading.
Hey Mickey - Who cares what you are tired of supporting. I certainly don't. It's none of your F'ing business if I'm employed or not but if I'm not you can thank your worshipful master Obama. You see, being unemployed sheds a whole new light on what the government actually does for individuals. I can tell you in a nutshell - NOTHING. You see, you don't support me or any of the unemployed. I realize that liberals are short on facts and long on guessing. You haven't a clue as to who pays unemployment and I can assure you, it's not the government... so for all your whining and bitching you still don't know what you are talking about. All you care about is bitching about anyone that's not a liberal...
It is obvious the IQ level of most of the Obama supporters is pretty low since most of their posts have to do with name calling and profanity and not anything of intelligence. Go watch Obama's America 2016, if you have not yet. I urge you to do so. Regardless of your political stance, be it Democrat, Rebuplican or any other party, it is a must see. This election is not about, or rather shouldn't be, one party vs another. It is about keeping America strong. This movie is full of facts about Obama. Such as him paying off people to keep them quiet about what he plans to do. About the fact that Obama's whole life and decisions are based on someone else's philosophy and goals. Not his own. He is not a leader. He is a follower of someone else's ideals. His plan is to split the United States apart. He wants us to be small. He also plans on passing a law which would enable him to a third term........ and eventually having no election at all. He is not interested in democracy. His is a dictatorship
Gonna blame Bush for everything--4 more years?
There are loyal supporters and then there are Obama supporters. Masochists one and all or else they are getting the Obama stash and want those freebies to keep on rolling in. Putin 'likes' Obama. Now, if ever there was a reason to NOT re-elect someone, Putin's endorsement should seal the deal. One communist to another, Obama needs time to finish 'radically transforming America' into the Soviet Union. The New Peoples Democratic Party. Interesting how the least democratic organizations always tack 'democratic' onto their label.
I've made my decision. I am not watching Obama tonight. I was somewhat divided over it but coming to this board and reading all the comments from the sniveling liberals, it turned me against it. I already know what he's going to say to the democrats... he's going to say:
"PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE vote for me so I can keep the big truck airplane, the basketball court, the bowling alley and the prestigious address. I don't want to have to pay a mortgage for four more years. I promise to be a good boy and I also promise to keep to all of your liberal tendencies. I want to have the 7 layers of security surrounding me and I can't afford it if I leave office... they will only give me a bodyguard. You can't give all this to Mitt Romney because it'll prove that I am a loser and my narcissistic ego will not be able to bear it. I tried hard to improve my golf game and that's cool, isn't it? I did take plenty of high profile vacations but you understand why, don't you? I promise not to ever give in to a republican again and you like that, don't you? So you have to fight for me to win... Thank you for your support liberals!"
disappointed: Yes we SHOULD be all together. Instead President Obama has been more of a divider than a uniter. It's been very unfortunate because the majority of Americans truly believed he would bring hope and change. I also did not vote for Bush W. the first time but I will admit I'm glad he was our president during a time (9/11) when we needed our president to lead. We can't afford another 4 years of Obama.
Ive read the snippets sent out, Brian- and was struck by the familiarity of what I read.
Then I did some research. Kind of odd- I wonder if Carter minds being plagiarized by Obama's speech writers? Some of it is word for word.
On another note- it has become obvious that Chria Matthews needs help
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/06/chris_matthews_if_clinton_landed_on_mars_he_would_know_how_to_reproduce.html
I'm serious here- I met Chris some years ago, and he was a brilliant, creative, observer and commentator.
He's off the rails-and in serious need of intervention.
If anybody on this network cares, it's time to take some kind of action.
Remind us again why we give a @!$%# what YOU do?
With any luck, you will be looking for a freakin J-O-B so we NO longer have to support you any longer, dead beat daddy!
There is NO one on the vine who needs more help than you do old gal!
Tell us again, how rape disrupts ovulation again will ya? That is one of our favorite Snookie-Joe bull@!$%# moments...
The old broad is a master of all trades and a Jack of NONE!
PS: Any idea where Mr.Snookie-Joe is tonight? It's obvious he is not home cuddling with YOU! lol
Samantha, My family plans on going to see the movie this weekend. I'm not an Obama supporter, but I am very interested in seeing how the producers laid out the movie. I already know that the movie shows the communist roots of Obama's father and takes off on his book "Dreams of my Father." That alone should tell anyone what Obama is all about.
Obama: Look, I'm at the start of my administration. One nice thing about the situation I find myself in is that I will be held accountable. You know, I've got four years. And … a year from now, I think people are gonna see that we're starting to make some progress. But there's still gonna be some pain out there. If I don't have this done in three years, then there's gonna be a one-term proposition.
And a one term you shall have sir.
The party for women?????really????....Hart...with a woman not his wife on a yacht...Edwards....Love child while his loyal wife dies of cancer....Clinton.....Hummers in the oral office with a woman barely of age....and my fav....Teddy Kennedy....running drunkenly home to Mommy while a girl drowns in his car. I think these guys are pretty used to using women....and continue to do so.
I can fix the headline:
"Pres. Obama out of excuses, begs for four more years, claims he'll get it right this time."
Ok Sure. Time to move on people.
Me too Mickey! Dead beat daddy Brian needs to quit trolling FR and start looking for a job to take care of his kids!
For someone who hates the government as much as he does, he can't help but sign those unemployment checks, which WE are paying for!
Thanks to OUR tax dollars, you unemployed parasite!
Nice that daddy dearest takes government assistance out of his kids mouths to pay & watch propaganda!
Get a J-O-B and quit sucking my tax dollars dry.. you loser!
Dumbfux queen said:
Remind us again why we give a @!$%# what YOU do?
With any luck, you will be looking for a freakin J-O-B so we NO longer have to support you any longer, dead beat daddy!
I never expect you to give a @!$%# about what anyone else does. I wasn't typing my message to you... because.... you aren't the only person who uses these boards... I hate to break that tidbit of bad news to you... Queens... their male egos always supersede their brains.
Another liberal that is under the illusion that they support the unemployed. I have an idea for you queenie... get an education before you speak... it will make you look much more sophisticated. We all know how badly transvestites want to look sophisticated. Much better to lure your prey in that way.
No...deadbeat daddy - you tell US who is supporting your lazy gubment sucking ass!
Another liberal that is under the illusion that they support the unemployed. I have an idea for you queenie... get an education before you speak
No...deadbeat daddy - you tell US who is supporting your lazy gubment sucking ass!
Be a man for a change, quit procreating and take care of the kids you can't you slug!
If YOU put hald the amount of time in looking for work, that you do spreading your bull@!$%# & hatred around here, you should of found gainful employment a year ago!
Be a man for a change, quit procreating and take care of the kids you can't you slug!
Jersey Girl,
Did you really post your IQ score? Like anyone either believes you or cares? I mean, if you want to impress us with your intelligence, then explain the inherent flaws in right wing logic, please...
You've had 30 years of tax cuts for the wealthy, if that works, why are we in the economic situation we currently are? If that doesn't work, which, admittedly it can't if the economy is as bad as the GOP says it is, why do you support a party with failing economic policies?
Please show me the math, that makes balancing the budget possible without raising revenues?
How do you claim to want limited government, but advocate for the government invading our privacy, be it in our bodies, our religious buildings, or our contracts, and how do you reconcile that with expanding the government's power of search and seizure?
I've been watching the Pitt Cinci game over on ESPN.
Has Barrack Hussein started his Hopey Changey
speechblathering yet?The games pretty boring but I'm sure so will be Barrack Husseins begging for 4 more years so he can continue to live in a nice government subsidized house.
Hope has been changed to "Hang in there" and Change has become “put y’all back in chains”.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
No wonder Hollywood loves the Democrats! Man do they know how to tug the emotional strings. Biden can act! Put this man in a movie!
Jim,
We all know that his middle name is Hussein. No one cares except the most vitriolic Islamaphobes and racists.
Why do you feel the need to use it?
Oh, by the way Libbies, is it raining in Charlotte, N.C. yet?
Thunderstorms?
Sprinklers on?
I didn't think so. Another bust for the "Recovery Summer" circus we've been forced to live through for the past 4 years.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
For the record, I think promising to reduce the deficit was a stupid proposition, at least during an economic crisis. However, Obama did come close to that; his $4 trillion deficit deal modeled in part off of Simpson-Bowles. $1.2 trillion in revenues; $2.8 trillion in spending cuts. But your bastards in the House couldn't even tolerate ONE dollar in new revenues, so they refused the bargain. THEY, not the President, caused the credit downgrade with their refusal to compromise.
Apparently the self-implied Constitutional expert doesn't know that CONGRESS makes the damn budget, no the President. Obama had his own budgets; you can oppose them all you like, but he still offered 'em. And by the way, the President already signed $2.2 trillion in SPENDING CUTS; I am @!$%#ing tired about arguing how to cut the deficit. The whole thing should be easy: repeal the Bush tax cuts for everyone, cut defense by $750 billion, increase the taxable maximum on the payroll tax and raise the tax by 2% points on Social Security, and increase the Medicare payroll tax to 3.2% and move it to a fee-for-care system, with payments based on quality of care, not quality. Then bam, budget is balanced in the long-term.
Actually, if we simply let the fiscal cliff happen, we won't have to deal with the deficit in the medium-term. The deficit would be eliminated over the next decade, and we would have time to focus on tax reform and entitlement reform without the specter of looming deficits. And by the way, what kind of economic proposal are you going for??? How the hell would you solve our crisis??? And don't give me that supply-side, classical, Austrian, monetarist, or austerian bull@!$%#. None of them have worked (with the exception of monetarism), and Austerianism is being proven as junk science by the current crisis in "Socialist Europe."
Oh bull@!$%#. If we hadn't wasted our blood and treasure on foreign military adventures, tax cuts for the wealthy, and bailouts for the banks we COULD HAVE fixed our economy to keep manufacturing here. And what company pays 35% in taxes???? Most pay less that 25%; hell, some of them pay ZERO in taxes. The tax issue doesn't work because our corporate tax code is stuffed with loopholes.
Ughh, more free-trade nonsense. Let me make it perfectly clear: FREE TRADE DOES NOT WORK. Want to know why??? BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO ARE DOING IT. If the rest of the world was doing it, we've wouldn't have lost so many jobs. But they aren't; every rational country out there is protecting their core industries to prevent a drain of manufacturing jobs that we got "blessed" with our stupid free-trade policies. When the rest of the world laid off the free-trade stuff, we should have wised up and did so as well. If they won't open their markets, why the hell should we open ours??? And don't give me that crap about consumer protection; who is going to buy those imports if all the good-paying jobs will be gone???? I am not an opponent of free-trade; I once supported it, in fact. But free trade ONLY WORKS when the rest of the world is doing it. And with a massive trade deficit with China, I don't think opening our markets to their cheap-labor costs will do any good.
The problem with saying that is that free trade requires a GLOBAL COALITION. We need a global coalition of every economy in the world with the authority to prosecute those that violate free trade, and we all know that the WTO ain't it. Yet you conservatives shudder at the concept of a global coalition; hell, you'd call it a leftist ploy to get us to "world government,"
While I agree with you on premise that education needs to be reformed, why the hell do we have to turn to the private sector??? We can use their advice and skills, but that's it. The private sector is out for one thing: profit. Not good education, not acceptable costs, but PROFITS. We could easily reform education while keeping it public; hell, I say federalize the whole damn thing and let the states use their money on other things.
I agree with you on this.
Romney's tax plan would CUT TAXES for millionaires and RAISE TAXES on lower-income Americans!!! How the hell can you support that??? I personally support raising taxes on everyone, but not only on the middle class. You guys are just angry with the fact that Obama embarrassed your party in 2008. Romney and Ryan will DESTROY our nation and turn it into a corporate plutocracy, where the rich get all the gain and rule the land while everybody else just scrapes by. If you want that kind of country, go to Somalia....
OBAMA BIDEN 2012 for SANE Americans.
Hey Dumbfux - have you ever had a man sock you in the nose after they found out you were male? I can just imagine the scenario... Dumbfux starts kissing on the guy... the guy reaches down and puts his hand on Dumbfux's johnson... and the next thing Dumbfux realizes is he's on the ground because the guy hauled off and gave him everything he had right in the middle of his face.
Actually that is quite funny.... So embellish on how many times this has happened to you queenie. I'm sure the audience would love to hear about it.
For effect? Dems are ruled by emotion...what better way to hit it home?
Biden is such a dope. Obama has his idiot minions spouting his greatness tonight. Obama is an f-ing socialist. If we give him 4 more years he is going to finish what he started....to finish Colonial America. He hates America because of what she stands for. Wake up you lib's. GM stock has dropped. No one is buying GM cars except the government who is buying fleets of GM cars. Obama is such a consummate liar. Like the devil is.
Cnn just said it was a Republican style 80's speech. Joe Biden used the word God. They just voted last night to use the word Israel and God.
What a bunch of losers. The people they bused in are not looking to good either. I have never seen such frenzied liars in all my life! America? I sure hope not. Ok now Joe is talking about how Obama got Laden. Geez. It is looking like Jim Jones and Koolaid before to long.
At the expense of making yourself look like a flaming, ignorant racist? I guess hitting home just isn't that important to some.
Well, anything the opposition says is defined this way by libs. Grats on diluting the waters.
Or, you know, just the things that actually ARE, like Jim's post. You all don't like being called racists all the time? Well then, try calling out the real ones in your party. Your silence in the face of it, only confirms those accusations.
Sarah-3043284
Awwwww, did I hurt your wittle feewings Sarah? I know Hussein is his middle name you silly wabbit.
Does it embarrass you when I use his real middle name? I didn't choose it. If you have a problem with it you'll have to take it up with his alcoholic daddy and his communist momma.
But you know what? I do remember all you little limp-wristed Libbies trying to appear witty and clever calling President Bush "Dubya", so I feel it's just right to use Barracks middle name also, just for clarity.
That's all.
Anything else bothering you tonight?
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
I have been around a long time here on the vine...trust me, it doesnt matter. This is what happens when you cry wolf too many times.
No, not at all. Are you incapable of answering my question? Why do you feel the need to use it? Can't you make your case for Romney without going there?
And, if you can't see the difference between your use of his middle name and "Dubya", you're seriously blind. They're are a lot of things you could call him, without the blatant, underlying of racism. Why don't you do that instead?
Not currently, I'll let you know when something comes up.
Korn,
It ain't my first rodeo either. This is what happens when you don't address the issues in your own party, and stand up to the crazy people.
Exhibit A: Jim.
The President's family is lovely - the face of America.
Heard on NPR tonight:
Tweets per minute during speech:
Mitt Romney 14,000
Joe Biden 22,000
Michelle Obama 28,000
Pretty bad to get out-tweeted by Biden!
Go Michelle!
Obama/Biden 2012
YES WE CAN!
YES WE WILL!
When far left feisty prattles on and on relentlessly about nothing this is what normal peole hear: blah, blah, blah, yackety, yak, yak, name calling here and there, some more blah, blah, squeal, moan, bitchety, bitch, bitch, bitch...#&#&@ this and #^#$^ that, some more yakety, yak, yak!!! Feisty, remind us again what actual relavance there is to anything you say to or about anything or anybody!! Oh, never mind...the prattle really isn't worth asking about. Being a sarcastic, rude, nasty little snot is NOT something most of us admire or aspire to be so from here on out I'll choose to let feisty lose and ignore the lunacy!!!! Nitey, nite feisty!!! Sleep tight in mommy's basement!!!!
Man, those grapes are sour!
:-D
Korn,
I am well aware of that...an elephant never forgets. While Jim's style does not match my own, I can understand his frustration. When you pit race against race for long enough, fodder will fly.
Jim,
I thought of something! My new couch from Ikea came with a cushion missing and I've called them twice to get it shipped, and they STILL haven't.
THAT'S bothering me!
Wooow, our President is bringing it. Romney/Ryan don't stand a chance. They are done.
Woooow , ♥ that line our President dropped on Myth and Ryan’s foreign experience. How can MYTH say Russia is our biggest threat and not Afghanistan? How about his insulting remarks at the Olympics.
Yup, our President just took Pinocchio MYTH and Eddie Munster to the wood shed. The crowd is FIRE UP and shouting: "4 more years"
Obama/Biden 2012
Emotion is very powerful. But the problem with emotion is...it wears off, and reality settles in. It's going to be fun for political junkies like us. But to tell you the truth, no matter who gets in, troubled waters are ahead. Nothing is free, and we have much to pay for...
Sarah-3043284
Tsk, tsk Sarah, shame on you. IKEA is from Sweden. That's what you Libbies get when you support foreign companies.
HEY!!!! Wait a minute, don't you Libbies scream from the mountaintops about outsourcing and all that other stuff? Isn't Romney the worst thing in the world because he sent GAJILLIONS of jobs and companies offshore?
Yet you buy from IKEA?
You shoulda bought a La-Z-Boy.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
Pat Boston MA,
Pat, it's too bad you use a picture of Langston Hughs as your avatar while making excuses for an obedient servant of the rich and corporations like Barack Obama.
I think if Hughs had still been around he would agree more with black progressive journalist Adolf Reed. Reed is from Chicago, so he had while to watch Obama's rise to power and Reed's verdict was that Obama was a "vacuous opportunist".
Obama hasn't lifted a finger to help black people even though he expects them to pull the lever for him
The rich white people and corporations who funded and backed Obama have been right so far that a black president would placate black communities and keep them from exploding, but who knows for how long?
You know what happens to a dream deferred.
Obama-Biden opened a tall, frosty bottle of Whoopass and served it to the GOP's favorite losers this evening! The right wing lunatic fringe really ought to celebrate the inevitable failure of their candidates by toasting the event with their favorite malt liquor and a sack of pork rinds! I mean, it's just going to be a steep downhill ride for them until November when President Obama is reelected, so they'll need plenty of refreshments to occupy them until then!
President Obama in November! He is clearly our only rational choice!
Pitiful doesn't come close to describing your right wing extremist views. A new class of republicans. You Pities are disgusting!
Romney is campaigning on closing the home mortgage deduction. That will raise my taxes by about $10,000 a year. How much will it raise yours?
Arch:
What do you expect in a country with a far-right party and a center-right party?
The Occupy movement you've advocated, didn't move. They did nothing. Zero. They didn't field or support political candidates, they didn't make alliances with other political groups, even those who strongly supported their ideas. They took a whole lot of public and political support and squandered it, apparently because they were just too 'above it all' to get involved.
I supported Occupy. I would have supported candidates from the movement. None came. So now I'm stuck just trying to help Obama hold the line against a concerted attack by the far-right against the middle class, the poor and the elderly. I'm disappointed too, but I'm just as disappointed at Occupy, I refuse to be naive about the political reality we face, and the fact is, center-right is all we've got now, and it is a hell of a lot better than the far-right.
So, time to make the call. Are you with us, or not?
ROMNEY 1040???
After the abortion of the Bush years of war mongering spending it is really amazing that the country actually made the turn. Billions a day pumped into Arab lands and it is still a mess to clean up. I shudder to think where we would be at with McCain and the dingbat from Alaska. The changes are happening for the better and will stay that way without the corporate raider.
So if Bush was a warmonger, what do you call Obama? He has gotten us in a couple of battles himself. And, one as I recall without Congress's approval. Oh, I forgot that darn Constitution is meaningless to you on the Left.
Shouldn't be a problem for you to name them, right Snookie?
Bush:
Iraq
Afghanistan
Obama:
Libya
Yemen
Uganda
How many boots on the ground did/do we have there again?
How much did it cost as this time it was ON the books unlike Bush & Co. creative accounting practices...
He has gotten us in a couple of battles himself.
Libya
Yemen
Uganda
JerseyCow1 - Be a little more specific, please.
I have never called anyone a name other than what they have posted, but I cannot say the same for some of you. You guys are nothing short of nastiness. You just follow suit after your divisive leader with the name calling and mud slinging.
Let see if my memory serves me right the Congress of the United States has been in power under Democratic watch for 6 of Bush's years and the first two of Nobama. Everything goes through Congress, Bush always came to Congress for approval, Nobama not so much, he has his Czars and they run everything he don't want to handle. So all the glorious wars we got into, approved by Democrats in Congress.
Joesy Twit,
How many lives did we lose in Obama's battles?
"How many boots on the ground did/do we have there again?"
Does the number of boots really matter? I believe the point would be, what are we even doing there in the first place? When we have enough to worry about right here at home, let alone over seas.
Feisty must not have a job, notice she/he/it is always the first to post?????
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012-2016
PUHLEEZE Snookie, you do remember what you said to me in your comment #1.4!
Save your self-righteous self-indignation for someone who believes your crap!
You want to swerve into my lane, you better expect to meet resistance...
BTW: If your IQ is what you claim, why are you having so much difficulty answering the question I posed to you above?
I'm tired of *crickets*... pull up your granny panties and take the challenge cup-cake!
Feisty, GT, confused, how many American troops died in Afganistan while Bush was in office? How many under Obama? Obama runs a war like LBJ, stupidly!
Old Dog: you obviously lack the intellect or the honesty to own up to the ugly fact that more US troops died in the illegal war in Iraq under Bush than have died in Afghanistan under both presidents. If you are going to twist facts to suit your insane fantasies, please have the courtesy of doing it where the adults don't have to look at it.
Jersey Girl..just laugh at the Libs. They are lashing out with nastiness just like they did before the midterms and they are all in big ole funk again because they know that was just the first coat of shellac. The final coat is coming in Nov. when the senate gets flipped and Obama is One and Done.
Is that called deductive reasoning? Sheryl sounds more like a shill, and a hysterical one at that. To bad she can't reason her way out of a room with 4 doors and 8 windows.
Well, let's see...
Nope! No mud slinging there....But what do I know. I don't have an IQ of 140, nor an EGO the size of Mt. Etna.
The maturity level of Feisty and her minions is just astounding!!! Name calling drivel, blah,blah,blah,blah!! IF feisty and crew had daughters they'd all look and act like Snookie!!!!! Cheers and have a nice day!!!!
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!!!!!!!
Hey Jennifer Psaki,
AKA FEISTY REDHEAD (obumbo's press secretary)...Why don't you post under your real name and stop lying to the American public that just think you are an average citizen.
Typical behavior behind the back demonpuke tactics!
Ugly Red Head or Fiesty, what ever you call yourself. Her real name is Jen Psaki, she works for the Obama re-election Campaign. Google her name. That's why she's on here all day, it's her job to get her master re-elected. She's a faithful little dog. She's as ugly as her mouth.
Just tally the cost of the Bush(s) wars. We could have built a golden ladder to the moon tp replace the Space Shuttle with that money. Not even close, do the math braniacs.
It never cease to AMAZE me how the Republicans ALWAYS dish out a lot of S***T, but they start WHINING WHEN SOMEONE STRIKES BACK.
whaaaaaa!!!! whaaaaaa! I demand an apology!!!!
Poor FR lw nut job posters... poor things. The only post that was really relevent was 2.9 by "only in america" kudos to you sir/ma'am
Very good question! Did you ask Georgie Boy that when he sent us into IRAQ?
People lets remember. Leftist always answer a question with a question. Now lets look at what has happened Geo Politically since Obama took office. Well lets see we allow and assist with tax payer dollars "The Arab Spring" without Congress approval. Then we aide those Al Qaida Democratic Rebels to take down Libya's Dictator. Since he won't cooperate with the " International Community". So since when do we walk over a Sovereign Nation's laws. Oh yeah when the UN says so. So he aides the take out of Qaddafi and his government. Now replaced with a Islamic Govt. Then Egypt loses Mubarak which was a staunch ally of the US and worked with Israel. Now we are seeing Assad go down. Yes these men where not good leaders. Yes they where very oppressive. We always think we know how to manage others problems when we can't even manage our own. Now we have Iran and the Islamic Community ready to strike Israel. Thank you Emon Obama.
Oh and to chime in on Feisty and being a plant. Well look at her icon. That alone shows me a person's true mentality. When I see icon's like hers. I just think how much brain power did it come up for you to find a avatar that shows your an arse!
Olddog....I just asked Bin Laden of what he thought about president Obama and his capabilities as Commander in Chief, he answered....Gurgle gurgle blub blub!
Bush gave up trying to capture/kill Bin laden and Romney said he would not go after Bin Laden as it was too expensive! Yep , worried about money over justice. After Bin Laden was killed by President Obama and Team America, Romney said he would have made the same decision!...From where, his Swiss bank account?
Obama/Biden 2012
Feisty........look at TheSwordnpen logo.....Birdbrain!
Obama/Biden 2012!
StarSailing,
The little guy is practically begging for some Feisty attention!
Sorry, the douche-bag is not worthy of my time!
I wouldn't bother to wipe his brand name stain off my shoes... ;o)
Shouldn't that be blue kool-aid? By the sounds of your nastiness tonight, you have had enough of your liquor induced kool-aid.
TheSwordNPen79
C'mon! Tell us who you really are.... Assad's nephew perhaps.
But you just acknowledged him......lol can't keep up with us can you FR?
Say, has anyone seen our girlfriend Snookie?
Why OH why do the trolls run off after getting bitch-slapped?
A 3rd grader could of answered my simple question...
And when Bush left, the debt clock for the war was under 900 million, I know because I looked at it. Now under Obama, the cost is over 666 billion. That's alot of war money spent by someone that got an unearned peace prize. Fail- one and done. Wonder if he will go into his tent revival preacher voice?
I'm still here FR or whateverthehellyourrealname is.......
Fess up....scared to let us know what your real name is????? Hmmmmm
So you get off, getting your ass kicked... eh?
What's the matter sweet-cheeks? Old man isn't up to the job!
So, you have no choice left other than trolling the internet looking for validation?
You my darling is evidence, there is NO sure for being stuck on stupid!
I do thank you for playing... though...
A few more years? A few more years to accomplish what, exactly? The complete bankrupting of a country. The Obama plan is frighteningly similar to Cloward-Piven's plan. Overwhelm the system with welfare and unfunded or unfundable liabilities, have the system collapse and then instate radical liberation theology or some other collectivist ideological system.
Obama was raised and schooled and mentored by Marxists, those facts are indisputable. In his 'Dreams from my Father' tomb he tells the reader his ideology, his mentors and his goals. He boasts of seeking out the 'Marxist' professors in college, he attends the rallies and his career as 'community organizer' is straight out of the collectivists lexicon.
Like Hitler's Mein Kampf, it is all there, written by the man himself. His goals, his ideals, his agenda. He is following through with those goals and the endgame, what he wants another four years for, is to radically transform America into a third world communist/socialist nation. Those who support him are supporters of Marxist ideology. You may label it 'progressivism,' liberalism, radical liberation theology or 'new' democratic party but regardless of the title the contents of the book are always the same.
Feisty I am also a person that hates a bully. Get er done Girl. i honestly don't call myself a D or and R. But this time I have to admit The Dems got it all. I guess i consider myself more of a moderate person. Don't like welfare but also I don't like the Government telling its citizens what religious views they have to take.
IE a woman's right to choose. And I am a person who was raised catholic. AKA a recovering one. What the NEO cons far right seems to forget is that there is a separation between church and state.
And I cannot Vote for a person who cannot even. Acknowledge our current Veterans for their service. Mitt Romney is a draft Dodger, A Job loss creator. And most of all a liar. For the Republicans who have read my post. do one thing for yourself. Take a look At Romney's eyes when he talks. He always looks left. Sure tell of a liar. Pay attention to what the GOP is saying.
New war in Iran an Syria maybe even N. Korea. Why?
mygirl1 I took a class or two in college about History both US and World. And learned that Hitler was not a socialist but believed in fascism. Take a look at the two in a bit more depth. It looks more like what the Republicans want to do. And Already have attempted to do. AKA the patriot Act.
Thanks Joey!
These keyboard warriors NO LIKEY when you hit them back!
Sorry, after watching 30+ years of the American Tealiban screw this country, I will hit them at every chance I get!
Where did my GF Snookie go?
Why can't she give a simple answer?
I've been watching this nonsense since the last election.. "FiestyRedHead", "IRespond", etc... there are a couple more... They're not you and I out there making everyday decisions to survive and pay our bills.... they are part of a propoganda machine.
SO... If the glorious president is so wonderful, why does he need these people to get on these boards and try to distort facts???? Because He thinks it works! Because he thinks you American workers are stupid! Prove him wrong.
Those are some of the strangest looking people I have ever see in my life at that convention. Taking credit for others accomplishments and blaming everything on someone else. Man up for once and quit being so wishy washy and you might stand a chance. Grow a back bone. And they are right republicans will not let them do anything. Biden is talking doing a decent job but now into the spin. I think they are on magic mushrooms.
Just make sure to check under your bed tonight you paranoid tea-bagger!
Wow, another time-worn and overused attempt at an insult. What next, calling someone a poopy-butthead? When you resort to insults you have lost the argument. Stinker, doo-doo, nannie-nannie poo-poo booger.
Joey: Ask yourself one pertinent question. If NDAA and the Patriot Act were so awful, why did OBAMA sign them into law AGAIN? Perhaps your college courses would have explained the similarity between two men, writing what were essentially 'autobiographical' statements of intent. Both Obama and Hitler wrote about themselves and their ideology. Fascism and Socialism are similar in content, one has the corporatons controlling the masses, the other has the government controlling business and the masses.
Joey: did your college courses cover Cloward-Piven?
ticked of in ohio & down-with-obama - any chance your real names are one of - Lewis Libby, Karl Rove or Dick Chenney?
"I will use the money we've been spending on war to pay down the debt and put people back to work here at home."
YES WE CAN!
This was the CNN Money headline in Bush's last month of office:
Job loss: Worst in 34 years
Employers slashed 598,000 more jobs in January as unemployment rate climbed to 7.6%.
Here was last month's number from the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 163,000 in July.
Tomorrow's numbers look like they'll be even better.
There's your choice.
The only way the GOP can win is LIE!
mygirl1 Actually it did. Have you expanded yours past the 12th Grade to include. Clinton's Welfare to work? Allot has changed past the 60's Don't you think? Oh wait you don't at least not past political party lines.
"Very good question! Did you ask Georgie Boy that when he sent us into IRAQ?"
Hey confused, you're sounding like a talking political sock puppet. By the way, I don't belong to either party, so yes, I did ask that question both times. And one more thing, trying the old switch it to the other party ploy really doesn't get you anything but a middle finger these days.
didn't see that coming.
"I couldn't do it my first term, I had many obstablces. I had Bush, Republicans, Constitution, Americans and Bin Laden preventing me from carrying out the fundamental Changes need to make America 'Great' again. I got Bin Laden, not even Romney can say that. I shaved two strokes off of my game and corrected that nasty slice I had. Make no mistakes America, you may not have built that but together with 99% we will correct America"
Mitt Romney – I will get unemployment down to 6% by the end of my first term
Mitt Romney – I will create 12 million new jobs
Neither are a case to hire him because these numbers are identical to what the CBO and most economists say will happen with the current recovery trajectory.
So, let's see- if Obama ran up over five trillion in debt in three and a half years- how high would the debt be if he got a second term?
If, after three and a half years of Obama there are 23 million unemployed, underemployed, or just plain discouraged workers- how many would there be if he got a second term?
If the economy, rather than recovering, is scraping along at the bottom of the recessionary trough- what are the odds of improvement in a second term?
Funny thing- Obama is using the same, tired excuses Carter used- the good times of great growth are over, I inherited this mess and since I tried everything I know how, there is no way to fix it, and you need me at the helm to steer us into the waters of decline.
It was rubbish then, it is rubbish now.
Obama is the head of a party that believes that profits should be declared illegal; that believes that we, all, "belong to the government"; that none of us is n any way responsible for our circumstances- and that includes not just business builders, but those who, by their own choices, lead desperate lives of dodging bill collectors, bankruptcy, or, even, drug and alcohol abuse.
Their own party platform was amended- against the will of their delegates- in direct response to criticism from the other party. Did that change reflect a change in attitude? Not a chance. It reflected, instead, their dismay at, once again, having deeply held, core beliefs rejected by the overwhelming majority of the electorate.
Courage of conviction is not, exactly, a hallmark of Obama democrats.
Instead, he will say anything at all to retain a job for which he was clearly unsuited.
The electorate is no longer buying what Obama is selling.
Dennis: They why is Obama only promising 1M new jobs?
You know, I was doing some research and digging around in the FR comments "vault", back in 2004 and after.
The one thing I noticed was not a ONE of you phony deficit hawks said @!$%#, when Bush was racking up the deficit at a record rate!
So, save your POUTRAGE, no one is buying what you're selling!
So, let's see- if Obama ran up over five trillion in debt in three and a half years- how high would the debt be if he got a second term?
If, after three and a half years of Obama there are 23 million unemployed, underemployed, or just plain discouraged workers- how many would there be if he got a second term? Blah-blah
Snooki Joe - You stupid drunken twat! didn't you listen to Clinton last night when he said "It's simple arithmetic. Why don't you start using it. You keep posting the same BS but never seem to do your arithmetic.....
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O&Joe 2012
FR archives only go back to 2006. How is it you can go back to 2004? Would you care to share?
Obama has created jobs, but what type of jobs. I could hire a person to count the cars passing my home each day. That would employ one man but what does he build or create. Granted he has money to spend and taxes to pay, but I can deduct his earning from my taxes, so it's a wash.
(to the paid Obama surrogate who trolls this liberal website and is most likely in fact a man by the name of Chris Matthews) Bush spent too much too. I said it now and then. But your loving tyrannical potentate has spent more than 42 presidents COMBINED. The people on your liberal website are sick of your nonsense, the people of AMERICA are sick of all of the nonsense.
Oh.. my...
Look at little Sheryl will ya?
You go girl, how much more original can you get than that? lmao!
timbofosho, best post by anyone all week! You made my day, thanks.
Hey Jennifer Psaki,
AKA FEISTY REDHEAD (obumbo's press secretary)...Why don't you post under your real name and stop lying to the American public that just think you are an average citizen.
Typical behavior behind the back demonpuke tactics!
Yeah! Feisty! Show us your birth certificate!! LMAO!!!!
Nahhh!
For now,I am going to keep my blood type super secret! lol
REPUBS HATE AMERICA AND LOVE STEALING YOUR MONEY SO THEY CREATE VOTER SUPPRESSION LAWS TO GET AT YOUR MONEY!
Pro voter suppression laws = repubs rigging the elections, that simple. Just rigging the elections.
Vote Obama/Biden and Team Democratic party, save your right to vote!!!
FEISTY, REALLY!?!?! POUTRAGE???? is that supposed to be the new catch phrase for the brainwashed Obama supporters?? LMAO at your nonsense!!!! You talk alot about others but your don't have a single original thought ofyour own other than "poutrage"?????? Save your drama for your mama feisty,that is if she can hear you from your subdweller unit in her basement!!!!
OH NOES! Not another parasite chiming in between his Cheeto snacks! lol
Try to focus for a change my little slug!
Well feisty at least I post under my REAL NAME.......unlike you. Kissed obama's ass lately? Oh wait you do that everyday! LOL
Feisty, If you really are not Jennifer..why won't you just deny it??
Is it Ms 1137681 or Mrs 1137681?
Bless your heart dalin...now try again
Romney says...corporations are people.......Birthers should be all over this one....Protect the country from Citizens United allowing Foreigners to buy an American republican politician. ...Republicans allowing Foreigners to buy the republican candidate of their choice. Meanwhile, real Americans were dying and getting wounded In Iraq fake WMD war. Did a corporation get blown up by IED? Did a corporation get wounded, or serve 3 terms in Iraq? Did a corporation come home in a coffin?
Don't forget ever what Bush/Cheney/ repubs did to economy and to our soldiers. Romney wants to do it all over again.
Corporations are NOT PEOPLE! Vote President Obama/Biden 2012
feisty, feisty, feisty am I supposed to be impressed, distressed. intimidated or just amused by your drivel???? Slug indeed!!! Parasite, HA HA!! Right back at ya babe!!!! And BTW I'm a "her" and cheetos suck much like you!!!!
BTW maybe when you stop acting like a condescending biotch maybe people will give a crap about what you have to say!! Try not acting like your better than you oughta be!!! And have a nice day sweet pie!!!
Tsk, quit picking on Feisty. Her usual group of supporters, aka: the clique, aren't out in their usual numbers this evening so she has to be twice as unpleasant to compensate.
Corporations aren't people, they are machines or fantasy creations? The corporations, the one's that hire people, aren't people? But unions are people? The unions have the same clout in election support as corportations and they have the added benefit of only giving money to (buying) democratic politicans. This gets sillier and sillier.
The Obama supporters have run through their script, their insults and rhetoric. The Play is, and always has been, one act that repeats itself over and over and over....ad nauseum. Nothing new, their hero has lost his luster and it is getting harder and harder to put any shine on him. Have to give his supporters credit, they are loyal. They may not understand why but they are loyal nontheless, loyal in the same way that dogs are loyal.
Starsailing: Stop being "dumb"!!! People who work for corporations are people, too. Are you on the governments payroll that you can't understand how business people speak.
Lets go middle CLASS lets show up these wanna be 1 %ers. There is a difference between Being Rich and WANTING TO BE. The republicans are selling WANNABE tickets and you all are buying it. And Cheetos are awesome. An American product Made in the USA.
I actually saw someone posted on here that the dow was up because Lord Barry was actually gonna speak tonight. Wow public schools must not teach economics anymore. It was because a deal was struck in Europe for buying debt.
Far better to stand a chance of being rich than to have the government taking what I earn and 'redistributing' it. Best that can be said about the Obama democrats is that when they are finished redistributing, everyone will be equally poor. How come no one ever asks Obama how he's gonna pay for all the government funded free 'stash' he keeps offering? Gutting the military, raising taxes (only on the rich, of course) won't begin to pay for his 'largesse.' He's like the guy who promises the moon and the stars to get laid and once he gets laid, he forgets all about those promises and the person he was seducing.
Nice post Mygirl. As far as the picking on feisty thing, come on, no sympathy to waste there!!!!
Joey have at it and enjoy those cheetos!!!! If you vote Obama that's about all you have left to enjoy!!!LOL
Believe....show me a corporation coming home from war in a body bag......corporations are money, an object.
Hey skrewd so sorry your world is that way. Mine is just fine. And for your info I am not on the dole. FOOL. Go ahead and vote for the party that want to make it easier to BUY MADE IN CHINA.
Dems for the middle class
Republicans for the Corporations and clueless. Still waiting for MITTS tax Returns that Fricken DRAFT DODGER. If you want to support a war machine vote Republicant. Talk about mindless sheep.
How big is a GOD that wants mindless sheep to follow him. Even your Jesus questioned everything. Thats why they hung him on a cross.
He who seeks everything has nothing! He who seeks nothing gains it all.
mygirl1 I would rather have my government Spending my tax dollars on things that benefit society as a whole than. Corporate handouts. You are going to be taxed either way. Do you honestly think that 2 wars. Came at no cost. Talk about challenged. 1+1 does still = 2 you know. And if you charge 1 billion on a cradit card that CHINA holds AKA BUSH. it does end up taking more than 4 years to pay off. Unless taxes are raised.
Even REAGAN understood this. A true Conservative not like our current Fascist Party acting like the Republican party
We cannot survive another few years of this, go away.
End of days!!! End of days!!! End of days!!!
Will it be the 'rapture'......?lol
Evil Democrats, the only ones left behind.....Yeah!
Golden Age Golden Age Golden Age. just look at the last 4 years (last 8 really)
I'm thinking Zombie Apocolyse, myself! ;o)
That would be because you are a zombie following your king obama right off the cliff.
I sure hope they are not paying this Mensa member by the word!
The RNC should demand a FULL refund!
So how do you get paid Feisty, by number of stupid posts?
Hey Jennifer Psaki,
AKA FEISTY REDHEAD (obumbo's press secretary)...Why don't you post under your real name and stop lying to the American public that just think you are an average citizen.
Typical behavior behind the back demonpuke tactics!
Yo Wilfred - don't you have a stuffed animal to hump, some bubbles to chase, or a chew toy stuffed with peanut butter to lick? Internet posting clearly isn't your forte.
Oldog, if that is how she gets paid, she is a billionaire.
Don't worry. The zombies are looking for brains, so ALL THE REPUBLICANS should be SAFE!!!!!
ROMNEY>>>THE KING OF OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS, AND THE REPUBS THAT SUPPORT ROMNEY SELLING OFF AMERICAN JOBS FOR PROFIT!
Well here is another reason why economy could be doing better, but it is not what repubs want!
WHY DID REPUBS BLOCK REMOVING TAX BREAKS FROM COMPANIES LIKE BAIN< WHO TAKE AMERICAN JOBS OFFSHORE?
On 7-19-12, repubs blocked the bill that would remove tax breaks for companies that take American jobs overseas. These corporations take the profits then and hide them in offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes to the U.S.
.......WHY DID REPUBS BLOCK THE BILL TO GIVE TAX BREAKS TO COMPANIES THAT WOULD BRING THE JOBS BACK TO AMERICA?
On 7-19-12, repubs blocked the bil to give tax breaks to companies that would bring back jobs to America.
WHY DO REPUBS HATE AMERICAN WORKERS? Because they love profit and greed and pledged to vote against any bill that would make President Obama look good. Repubs including Paul Ryan, pledged the night Obama took office to vote against America just to make Obama a one term president!
....Killing good paying American jobs is good for the economy?......unemployment, cost of retraining, taking a lower paying job, losing your savings, your home, your family, everything you worked for...to buy cheaper goods that you now cannot afford? HORSE HOCKEY! All the profits go to the greedy rich.
SO HARD TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THE LIES ROMNEY SAYS EVERYDAY....BUT LET'S DO IT ANYWAYS!
Below from www.patheos.com
Mitt Romney tells 533 lies in 30 weeks, Steve Benen documents them
August 29, 2012 By Fred Clark 63 Comments
I've written about or linked to a great deal here "chronicling Mitt's mendacity" — to borrow Steven Benen's phrase.
Mitt Romney says many, many things that are not true. He says this despite being in possession of the correct facts of the matter.
Which is to say that Mitt Romney lies. A lot. He lies more than any other national candidate for office in my lifetime. And I was born before the Nixon administration.
This is documented. Proven. Validated, verified, demonstrated, catalogued and quantified. Mitt Romney lies.
Here are 30 — 30! — of Benen's weekly "chronicling" posts. These are all backed up and sourced. These are not assertions, interpretations or allegations. These are facts, actual instances.
Over the past 30 weeks, Mitt Romney has told lie after lie after lie: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII, XIV, XV, XVI, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XX, XXI, XXII, XXIII, XXIV, XXV, XXVI, XXVII, XXVIII, XXIX, XXX.
Oh go write a book starsailing!!! BTW did you ever take a look at the newsweek article featuring your hero BO. Somethings stinking up American and it just might be BO!!
wake the f up bud, what u will not survive is a return to republican control, unless u are in the top 10% of wealth holders in this country, and i say wealth holders rather than wage earners because THAT is the reality of the top 10%.....they HOLD wealth, they do not CREATE JOBS.......unless you are a domestic - maid, gardner, etc. Small business and consumer confedence create jobs, a living secure wage creates money to put into consumer goods, which drives the growth of our economy, which in turnand again, CREATES jobs. The deficit and spending is a topic known as "the out of power talking point" you flaming @!$%#, If all of you who don't understand economics 101 basic principals think you AND the republican politicals in this country BOTH care about run-away spending and the deficit, wait until your boys re-take the helm, at which point you will see spending beyond your worst imaginings......BECAUSE, as any economist or democrat knows, the only way to get out of a deficit recession and stop the decline is to spend your way outof it ----you give those effected a safety net, you give them unemployment and food assistance - which GOES DIRECTLY BACK IN TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY = and thus the economy at large, and you invest,invest, invest in public works projects, private sector expansion,new sciences and technolodgies, and you decrease waste, fraud, and tax loophoiles, and take that money and put it back into the economy, and slowly but surley, AS A MATTER OF SHEER ECONOMIC FACT - the economy recovers. BUT - this works with CONTROLLED TARGETED SPENDING COUPLED WITH A BALANCED APPROACH OF REDUCING SPENDING WHILE RAISING REVENUE.....AND YOUR BOYS SPEND THREE TIMES AS MUCH AS ANY DEMOCRATIC LEADER EVER HAS. AND YOUR BOYS ARE OWNED BY THE VERY PEOPLE WHO NEED NON-REGULATION AND LITTLE TO NO TAX LIABILITY TO CONTINE TO RAPE EVERY LAST DIME THY CAN OUT OF A ECONOMY THEY HAVE ALMOST KILLED, BEFORE IT FINALLY EXPIRES.....AT WHICH POINT THEY WILL BE LAGE LARGE BOATS OFF THE COAST OF FRANCE, OR GREECE LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE SWISS BANK, OR THE OFF SHORE CAYMAN ISLAND BLIND TRUST ACCOUNT, READING HAPPY TEXTS FROM BUFFY AND PRESTON IN PRIVATE SCHOOL, WHILE ALL U DELUSIONAL TEABAGGERS ARE GOING TO FIND YOUR SELVES CHEEK TO JOWL WITH THE REST OF US IN THE NEW HOOVERVILLES (and google anything you dont understand or havent heard of, because it isent my job to educate you any further than I have......as it is this is seven to eight minutes of my life i will never get back that had little point because FACTUAL INFORMATION is the teabagger kryptonite)
I think the republicans just screwed the pooch Biden just did one thing. HE
AWOKE THE SLEEPING GIANT. If you do not know what that means. You need a history lesson. Don't ever BET against THE MIDDLE CLASS. DON'T EVER BET AGAINST THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS.
PS I would rather drink some Kool AID than SAKI
Yes... so what you're telling me is, that right now... while I'm struggling, my family's struggling, my friends are struggling; is that I just need to do what all the wise old Democrats and "Economists" know to do and "spend my way out of it"? How's this Obama payrolle doing folks??? Sounds like common sense to me right? IF YOU'RE BROKE YOU NEED TO SPEND MORE MONEY! Everyone knows this is the true way to stimulate your own economy! If you barely pay your mortgage, you should go buy a new car! If you can't buy food, you should add some antique furniture! THANK GOD (sorry libs, I say His name) I know that the American people aren't fooled by any of the nonsense anymore! Glad it's become obvious to all that these "comment posters" who are portraying themselves as everyday people are infact propoganda spewers!
President Obama, as President Clinton said in his speech and we all know, inherited some of the worst problems from prior administrations and needs the time to fix the mess! He has done a great job so far and
he will continue to make necessary improvements and progress given the time needed to do so. Clinton's speech was enthusiastic and electriying. Tonight should be just a wonderful continuation of a great convention with excitment and life to it unlike Tampa!
Obama didn't inherit the bad economy, he campaigned for it and spent a ton of money doing so.
What a week it's been... it gets better with each evening!
It's a good day to be a lefty libtard!
JERSY - read your post and see how totally stupid you look!!! You are the poster child for Republican buffoon. Your family must be SO proud!
Obama/Biden 2012
SeekingSanity - When you attack JERSY GIRL 1 personally, rather than her arguments, it is your clear admission that her post is entirely accurate, and that you have no valid counter to any part of it.
Even Clinton left Bush with a recession mess, the last two quarters of 1999 were horrible.
Seeking, what are you going to do when the staff at that institution you're obviously in discover your computer?
Oh really now .. the economy was crashing when Obama started campaigning in the primaries. Better check that IQ and your facts - both are farces.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL Comment collapsed by the community
First tings first. Gabbie is a hero to me.
Second, short and sweet. You Feisty ain't no LADY. I thought a woman should be treated the same as a any man.
Obama is quoted by MSDBC
Sorry my President, you have pretended the quick and easy path.
Cut in half the deficits. Unemployment would go down to 5 1/2 by your third year. You would be the president to all Americans. You would be transparent.
Should I keep on?
You had four years and I and my family are not better off.
WHY DOESN'T ROMNEY SPEAK OUT ABOUT HOW REPUBS ARE CREATING VOTER SUPPRESSION LAWS TO KEEP AMERICAN VOTERS FROM VOTING?
Romney ...how about protecting American voting rights from voter suppression laws?
You will see repubs creating voter suppression laws all over the country. Alec( American legion economic council) is a group of people from corporations that meet with repubs twice a year to create bills that favor corporations. The repubs get campaign contributions for handing over the prize. Pennsylvania top repub just admitted to getting the voter suppression law passed to give the election to Romney.There was zero voter fraud! Rove /head of repubs commented that if they could get 1% of 9 states not voting they would win the election. Voter suppression to stop the young people from voting because young usually vote democratic because they care more about people.
tangeant: Clinton also sold us out to China via the Chinese Trade Agreement. The Asian people think he's a "god" North Korea wouldn't let the hostage go until Clinton visited them at their request. Remember? Also Clinton left a bigger mess for Bush W. and that's why we were attacked on 9/11 only 7 months into office by Bush. Al-Quaida had been planning the attacks for over 2 years during Clinton's time. Clinton was too busy doing other things at the time.
Of course we all know that Bill doesnt lie . yeah right
The next big thing on his agenda is gun control. Good Luck with that HUSSEIN.
Don't worry, gun owners would sooner the Earth itself be devoured by fire and humanity live in eternal damnation than give up their guns. Isn't that how you feel about your guns?
Yes.
I don't own a gun but I believe everyone has the right to do so. What's the big threat that there are gun owners in America?
In case you didn't know, the right to bear arms was provided in the Constitution by our forefathers so that if the government became out of control, Americans could take up arms to prevent what is happening in Syria. It is not law abiding citizens with guns which causes the problem, he is the gangs, drug lords, etc. Just take a look at Obama's home state of Illinois.
High fives Jersy Girl!
The next big thing on his agenda is gun control.
The gun control needed is against you tin-foil hat types that make up crap as they go along. A sanity test is clearly needed. FYI - Obama has not touched gun control.
Ah come on Sheryl - you and Jersey Girl are clearly sloppy seconds, possibly even trashy thirds, and perhaps filthy fourths. Keep climbing you way to the bottom, where you belong.
Jersey Girl, you're spot on. Now, would someone please shut Funky Red Head up? She's so pissed that we took 1/2 control after 2 years and will take full control soon. I work in health care as a nurse and if any of the doctors or nurses (important people) needed 4 more years to get it right, their character and license would be lost and a court case would follow. It's called malpractice.
It never fails. At soon as the Republicans feel their "gun"is threatened, they grab and reach for it, to make sure that it is still in the same place where they left it.
Governor Granholm: Romney has an elevator for his cars. And he gives the workers the "shaft"
Right, he's coming after your guns. If anything, he's allowed more guns than I would like by allowing people to carry guns in the national park near where I live. You have NO evidence that he is coming for your guns. On the other hand, I have true reason to believe the Republicans are coming for my vagina. And, heaven forbid, it they should want me to have equal pay for equal work.
Obama/Biden 2012
Joey.. gun control..ok......which side is Romney on today?......quite well documented switching back and forth, because after all, Romney is King Panderpants!
Jersey and crazon you go!!!! NIce posts!!!! Jersey don't let those subdwellers in their mommy's basements get to ya!!!! Have a nice day!!!!!!
RedDevPS-should be RedDev the poser!!!! Your nasty remarks are uncouth, uncool and unecessary. Grow up!!!
@Screw the World in 80 Ways - what's the matter? You certainly seem happy to let the GOP/TP act like nasty-smelly back-alley cats and junk-yard dogs, but the minute those cheap useless trolls are challenged on their level, it is suddenly uncouth, uncool, and unnecessary? Why the double standard? You still gold digging your way to the top? Tell me something you uncouth sub-human, when Moochille (you word) invites you to tea, will you address her as Mrs. Obama, Michelle, or by your parties preferred name of Moochelle, the cheeseburger fat ass? When you get off your indignant high horse, please let me know.
No one has answered my question. Why are gun owners a threat to America?
Presidents Clinton and Obama won't say it I will, Vote Down Ticket Democrats if you want change, jobs, education, because the Entire Republican Party has proven by Blocking the Jobs Bill and every other bill and spending 100% on Women's Bodies, Abortion denial even if raped or incest, don't forget Ryan also sponsored a bill Defining "Forceable Rape" Any woman who votes for the Republican ticket knowing they have such a "distain" for women shame on them.
Republicans have never mentioned the Men who participated in getting these women pregnant that consider abortion, they simply place the burden on the women. For every Abortion a MAN was involved and responsible, but the Republican party lets them off Scot Free...............go figure!
America should demand that the entire Republican Party "Refune" the American People for those 67 Abortion Bills they have pushed through the Congress when they ran to every camera in sight promising JOBS
Don't let the Republican Governors off they have attempted to push through over 1100 Abortion Bills including Governor Probe McDonald requiring women to be Probed with an instrument.
President Clinton made the case Experienced, he's been there and done that Lying Ryan and Willard absolutely no experience just one lie after the other
I never thought in my lifetime I would see any Presidential Candidate who Lies Continously to the American People and to Old People and DIsabled People, Disabled Kids wink wink at the same time planning to Cut Billions from Medicare Recieptants who are in Nursing Homes, Disabled Kids shame on that party.
Funny you mentioned Bill Clinton, a serial sex maniac that called women BIMBOS in your post. Shame on your lies.
Sandi,
The exposure of Ryan/Romney and the cut to Medicaid in their budget is indeed appalling.
Clinton nailed them with these facts.
Vote Republican if you want to see this true safety net program for the most vulnerable in our society gutted in the next four years.
Remarkable, isn't it Sandie?
I never thought I would see in my lifetime, a party who hates the black man occupying their perceived White House, they would vote for a couple of pathological serial liars!
No, it would just be cooler if it was a black Republican you race baiting POS.
Don't forget a democrat shot Lincoln and another one started the KKK :)
Will you people get off the race crap? Good Lord. We can dislike Obama and His politics without being racist.
That Line is Old. You need some new Material.
Eraser, don't forget that Lincoln, whom the Liberals say represents the NEW Democrats of today, wanted to Deport all the freed slaves back to Africa. He did not believe that whites and free blacks could ever live in the same country peacefully. That's the new Democrats huh?
Clinton gave a good speech. But Clintons Successes cannot make up for Obamas failures. We cannot afford 4more years of this.
Romney/Ryan 2012
I'll keep my Money, my Religion and my guns. YOU can keep the change.
Yeah, you're right. I disagree with his policies and his way of governing so I MUST BE a Racist. Great mentality you've got going there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Oh Dear!
I seem to have twanged a nerve with the KKK!
Mr. RubberHead doesn't like it when someone smacks him in the face with the truth!
Must suck to know you & your ilk are a rapidly dying breed and will soon be the minority in this country!
It's NO wonder you feel so powerless!
What you gonna do when they come for you? lol
Don't worry I'm 18, I'll be here for a while :)
The truth of Ryan so called Medicare cuts are the biggest line of crap going, i heard a local hospital adminstrator talk on end about what was happening out there, and the republicans plan, and he said it was no worse than the obama plan. Not a bit, and it would allow people to keep their present insurance company and they wouldn't have to carry the Federal plan. Which he said wasn't very well written for the public to understand. It needs to be tightened up a lot to accually save anybody anything. He said it will just be higher taxes, and he was afraid for everybody on that reason alone.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL needs to be in a straight jacket.
So Feisty, why aren't you talking about the cuts to Medicare and Medicaid provided in your new health care law? Or, maybe you aren't talking about these cuts because you don't know they are in the health care law.
Me neither.. but I've seen it for four straight years and I'm smart enough to admit the evidence regardless of my party
Speaking of Lyin Ryan, looks like he got his hand caught in the cookie-jar again!
Here he is begging for ObamaCare Cash;
Hey Jennifer Psaki,
AKA FEISTY REDHEAD (obumbo's press secretary)...Why don't you post under your real name and stop lying to the American public that just think you are an average citizen.
Typical behavior behind the back demonpuke tactics!
jerygirl,
There are no cuts in Medicaid in the new law. The law provides an expansion of medicaid in the states to provide health insurance for the uninsured for those making 133% above the poverty level. For a single person it would be about $15,000. a year and for a family of four it would be about $30,000.
The cost of this expansion will be 100% paid by the federal government with the states picking up 10% after ten years. My State of Mn has begun to expand this for over 88,000 Minnesotans. Many governors especially in the South has not begun, because they are waiting for the results of the election.
For them ,their states are paying the uncompensated costs for those who are uninsured who show up at the emergency room for care which is you the tax payer and you in increase in premiums fro your private insurance.
If R/R had their way all Medicaid payments would be block granted to states. It would mean there is no federal standard. so if you have a family member who is disabled, or elderly with dementia who needs nursing home care, you better find out which state to live in if you want them to get proper care under R/R budget with the repeal of the heath care law.
@Ticked in Ohio - why don't you post your facebook page so we can dislike your nasty ass.
Governor Romney cut Higher Education funding in Massachusetts. "Ask your parents for a loan" Romney says
He raised the cost of drivers licenses, he raised the cost of FORMULA FOR BABIES
He was BAD for Massachusetts, and he is BAD for the US. He wants to "fire us" Democrats. He does not like us.
Oh Sure! I can see from here how "generous" you have been. You probably donated your used underware to "charity" and expected to have taken out of your taxes.
The Republicans are the WORST Christians. They are the TALIBAN. The Tea Party is the WORST group of ignorant BIGOTS that have existed in this country. They do not understand SCIENCE
Joey...yeah...let's talk about the sex freak...the republican cadidate they just put up...Newt Gingrich...I like how repubs forgive Newt who was cheating on his wife while trying to get Clinton impeached. Then when skank Newt's first wife is in the hospital he tells her he wants a divorce. Now skank Newt's second skank wife is sick and he dumps her for skank wife # 3. Skank Newt and Skank wife #3 are repub candidates for the White house...Imagine First skank Newt and Skank first lady top choice during repub campaign.....What is wrong with this republicon morality issue? DUHHH!
There is absolutely NO point in bringing the Newt into this conversation. NOBODY likes him from either party!! His era is over and he's basically a washed up non-issue!!!
Skrew........you and righties nominated Newt as candidate for president after he admitted he was cheating on his wife the whole time he was trying to get Obama impeached. Newt cheated on the 2nd mistress skank when she got sick also......Then mistress skank number 3 and skank Newt you want in the White House to represent your morals....this is the republican party ....This is the reflection of who republicans are.....Newt Gingrich the skank!
Oh here we go again pulling the race card out....ummm isn't BO half white? Oh and if you voted for him because he is black you are a racist! FR really what is your REAL NAME oh wait BO didn't have to provide his REAL BC so why would you need to tell us your real name?
Hmmmm remember this: Three Dog Night "Liar"
I won't ever leave, you want me to stay
Nothing you can do, that could turn me away
Hangin on anyway
Believin the things you say, bein a fool
You've taken my life, so take my soul
That's what you said, and I believe it all
I want to be with you
as long as you want me to
But don't move away
Ain't that what you said?
Ain't that what you said?
Ain't that what you say?
Liar, Liar, Liar
First repubs took the oath of office to protect the nation constitution, then they threw it out the window when 95% of all repub politicians signed the Norquist pledge, like traitors pledging to their king Norquist. Then 14 of those pledged to each other to obstruct every bill that would make the president look good. They pledged to act like the Taliban(their own words), like insurgents(their own words) to take the economy down to make President Obama a one term president. The same thing Bin Laden pledged to do. Take the economy down. repubs are traitors to our Constitution! Reference Richard Draper new book.
7-19-12 Repubs block bill that would end tax breaks for companies taking jobs overseas, then repubs block in the same bill a tax break for companies who bring the jobs back to America. Pretty much shows still proceding with record obstruction to take and keep the economy down. Just like Bin Laden pledged. Just like Ryan, Cantor, DeMint, and the Newster pledged the night Obama took office.
Vote Obama/Biden and Democratic party.
Vote Obama/Biden 2012
Starsailing if you had paid attention to the things I post you'd know that I was a Democrat who did NOT vote for Obama. However, I did not leave the party until last month when I change my affiliation to Independent. I have never supported the Newt in anything!!! I believe he has less morals than an alley cat!!!! However, I DON'T paint every repub with the same brush or every Dem. Dems are equally able to be worthless POS as repubs are!!!! In my opinion Obama has wasted America's time, money etc.. and I will not support him When and if a decent dem candidate runs for POTUS again I will give that candidate every consideration. Maybe you should stop assuming that everyone is as consumed and obsessed with with one candidate, opinion, stance etc.. etc.. as you are. I belive there needs to be a lot of change in government across the board. None of these politicians can be completely trusted to do what they say. NOt from the "show me" state but I think that way. Any pol I vote for will have to put up or shut up. Obama has failed and it has absolutely nothing to do with his color so don't even try and go there and call me a racist.
BTW star you must never have seen my posts reagrding the Newt when he was the topic of the discussion or you'd never have said what you did!!!!
Wow, old Feisty had to pull the race card, the refuge of last resort to deflect blame from her hero. Interesting. Truly, when the standard Obama supporter has to resort to the race card because their argument is so weak, invalid and essentially unwinnable, you realize they are in the last round and hanging on the ropes.
The minute you angry
broadsbirds go into a full blown tizzy tells me all I need to know!Your dryer is buzzing and your white sheets are dry, ladies! lmao
Please enjoy....
mygirl1,
No worries...pay no mind to that poster. She/He/It is just background noise.
Just like the Democratic party...when they see the numbers slipping all of sudden it's "We need God!!" "We need the Jews!"
Awww, we are only reacting to her pathetic attempts at defending her hero.
So, is the alter complete? Is the picture of the hero prominently displayed? Are the candles lit? Have the Obama hymns and paens been memorized?
Is all in order and are you ready to commence worshipping? Have you assumed the proper worshipful position? You know, the one where you bend over and....
Star: Newt was never nominated, it was Romney who was nominated.
Skrew........you... don't want Newt in discussion when repubs rip on Bill...too bad...Newt represents who YOU are voting for. Deal with your new image...it is you now. The repub party...party of NO...morals!
No morals?? Really?? This coming from the party of the Philanderer-in-Chief??
Feisty,
"Your dryer is buzzing and your white sheets are dry, ladies! lmao"
Now that "lmao" was as fake as our joke in chief. Way to go Funky Red panties. Quick, grab a tampoon before it gets all over the place like our food stamps, unemployment and, deficit. Isn't the symbol for a Dem a Jacka*s?
Ooooh, weee .. we got us a live high-wire bible thumping moralist on board. Shall we count which side holds morality high-bar? Tell ya what Thumper, when you get through your list of 'moralists' and can give us all a tally, let's talk, and then let's talk about the what morality entails. For example, is consensual sex outside of marriage more immoral that molestation or rape? Is preaching against homosexuality while participating in the pleasure a morality issue? Is insisting on birth for unwanted children more moral than birthing them in dumpsters on prom night? Is leaving a dying wife on a deathbed to marry a dumb-blond who thinks diamonds are a girls best friend the moral high-road?
Notice, the right, never explains morality when it comes to feeding starving children, starving adults, or stopping extermination of living breathing people. The only time it comes into play is when a President dallies on the side or when it comes to unborn zygotes. Philandering presidents may be irritating, but putrid prudes are despicable.
Red,
Gee...how about not pulling your tally whacker out in the oval office for starters? Is that too much to ask for the dignity of the office of president? Or are you that far down the path that you just don't give a @!$%# about the image of a president? Also, have you also heard a little thing about perjury? Or is that something that slipped your frail mind as well? And since you on the left like to stand up for the choice of a woman, why don't you have the same balls to stand up for the life of an unborn child?
Yep, easy to break stuff. Hard to fix it.
Joe Thomas - President Obama has signed more laws removing more gun restrictions in one term than President Bush did in two.
MR. PRESIDENT ,
You need to stand up against the lies the right is making on the National debt.
They are accusing you of spending $6 TRILLION during your term.
I know for a fact that they are all GOP policies that caused it.
Fixing the GOP screw ups is not your spending Mr. President it is theirs.
Stimulus to save the GOP screw ups are LOANS not spending.
INTEREST on the GOP TRILLIONS of debt is NOT yours to be responsible for.
MR. President,
They will say the Democrats had a “majority”.
But we all well know the filibustering, obstructing GOP has the “CONTROL”
The unfunded wars were GOP started wars based on deception.
Mr. President,
The $16 TRILLION National Debt is GOP Policies of the past 32 years.
Stand up for your record and denounce those accusations.
Use their debt clock against them.
Mr. President,
Use ARITHMETIC against them.
Democratic policies that added to the National Debt = ????
Deduct that from $16 TRILLION
The balance will equal GOP DEBT.
This is NOT blaming the GOP or BUSH.
This is ARITHMETIC Mr. President.
He promised to cut it in half in 3 years too lol
LOL???
What did the GOP promise??
What did the GOP do?
Rooting for failure is a bad move.
He promised to cut it in half in 3 years too lol
Hey
dickheadEraserhead, Show me where he ever said that. "cite it"Eraserhead it's so refreshing to see someone your age that actually has a brain. You keep it up; don't let the dems drag you into their den of lies and decit.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012-2016
Not to mention the fact Romney has stated publicly that with all these people unemployed, he is going to cutwelfare ENTIRELY if you don't have a job. Wait.. so if you aren't working, even if it's because your last job went out of business, you get no assistance? PERFECT EXAMPLE OF ROMNEY SAYS THE POOR CAN BURN!!
Or, the poor can always ask their parents for a loan :p
He can't he's too busy lying again to the people!
Ruled: Stop making stuff up because you become NOT credible. Romney is a good person and he will get people back to work which is our biggest crisis right now. Millions of people STILL unemployed and underemployed, food stamp and welfare recepients at the highest level in our history.
A major problem that we can get rid of right away,is him.
Let's do it.
johninpa - you clearly took the wrong turn. Oh, that's right - you only make radical right turns - got it!
Obama/Biden 2012
Dude(or maybe dudette)....would you let somebody work on your house or car for four years without fixing it?
The man is in over his head,he knows it,but don't want to give up the perks.
He even screwed up selling guns to the Mexican cartels.
@Johninpa - How many guns did he sell to the Mexican cartels? Surely you have the details and can explain it clearly to us. Or wait .. are you just another @!$%#ty piece of disinformation?
President Obama will get 4 more years and America and Americans will be better for it.
Now we just have to ensure Dems regain control of the House (they will keep the Senate), and recovery will move much faster.....with the Repub obstructionists out of the way.
He SUPPOSEDLY has been working on it for 4yrs now..and all he's done is increase debt, and divide the nation.
If you look at the current polls more than half believe they are worse off now than they were 4yrs ago.
Sorry..I cannot afford 4 more years of this CHANGE
He had all that already and blew it on Obamacare instead of fixing the economy.
A DNC Dictatorship isn't the answer.
Obumbo Report Card:
A gallon of regular gasoline the day Obama was inaugurated was $1.79 on average in the U.S. Today that price is $3.59, a 100.6% increase. The number of food stamp recipients has risen since Obama took office from 31,983,716 to 43,200,878, a 35.1% jump. Long term unemployment soared 146.2% during the same 32 month period from 2,600,000 to 6,400,000. Staggering hope and change isn't it?
American citizens living in poverty have risen 9.5% from 39,800,000 to 43,600,000, and the number of unemployed has jumped almost 25% from 11,616,000 to 14,485,000 as of August 31, 2011.
The number of unemployed blacks has risen from 12.6% at the end of George Bush's term to 15.8% today, a 25.4% increase, and finally, our national debt is up 34.4% from 10.627 trillion to 14,278 trillion *
Keep these figures in mind as we recount the number of firsts for this presidency:
First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, and then deny he was a foreigner.
First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
First President to preside over a cut to the credit rating of the United States
First President to violate the War Powers Act.
First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .
First President to defy a Federal Judges court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
First President to spend a trillion dollars on shovel-ready jobs and later admit there was no such thing as shovel-ready jobs.
First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.
First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
First President to terminate Americas ability to put a man in space.
First President to encourage racial discrimination and intimidation at polling places.
First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly speak-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state they are allowed to locate a factory.
First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN)
First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
First President to appoint 45 Czars to replace elected officials in his office.
First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office.
First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
First President to coddle American enemies while alienating Americas allies.
First President to publicly bow to Americas enemies while refusing to salute the U.S. Flag.
First President to go on multiple global apology tours.
First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends, paid for by the taxpayer.
First President to refuse to wear the U.S. Flag lapel pin.
First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000.00 a year at taxpayer expense.
First President to repeat the Holy Qur'an tells us, and openly admit the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.
Remember that 32 months of Obama White House we the people have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our nation's entire history, as the Obama's plan their next extravagant vacation to the Indonesian Island nation of Bali .
Hope and change anyone ?????????
* sources: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Wall Street Journal, Bureau of Labor Statistics, US Dept of Labor, Standard & Poors/Case-Shiller, Federal Reserve, US Treasury, Heritage Foundation
Anyone want to explain why OBUMMER-Biden gave a Finnish Car firm $500,000,000 to build competing electric cars in Finland after they promised Biden to use a factory in his home state Delaware to build the cars and use American workers?
Can OBUMMER produce his high school, college and law school transcripts? If not why not? If he wants to be elected, we the people who pay his salary want to see what we are getting. Also we want to know who paid for all this education and we want to see his pre law school test scores.
If he got scholarships and and why did he get them?
Who paid him during his high school, college and law school breaks, summers and expenses.
We know Romney worked as a security guard at Chrysler. What did Obummer do during his breaks and did he file irs reports on his income?
How much money did he get and if it was over $10,000 did he file reports on that money as required by law? Lots of questions too about his Pastor Wright.
Why did Obummer sit in the front pew and allow Pastor Wright to blame America for the 9/11 attacks?
Why did Obummer allow Pastor Wright to Jew Bait?
Why did Obummer help finance a 1.2 million dollar mansion for Pastor Wright?
Why did Obummer give Pastor Wright a government job and refuse to reveal his salary and his duties and refuse to reveal if Pastor Wright ever show up for his specially made job?
Why did Obummer's wife in a public interview say that Obummer's mother was definitely single when Obummer was born?
Why was Obummer's birth specially publicized in all the Hawaiin newspapers?
Why did Obummer's mother immediately after Obummer's birth move to Washington State and never see or live with Obummer's father?
Why did Obummer's mother immediately move back to Hawaii after Obummer's father leave Hawaii?
Why was Obummer's father wanted by immigration before Obummer was born?
There are a thousand more questions that Obummer refuses to answer.
poodlefan007 These are similar to his 130 initiatives that were not passed when he was state senator a lot of words and no bite.
Ask Obummer why the federal budget has $3 billion dollars specially designed for unions.
Ask Obummer why $3.9 billion dollars have been wasted on federal renewable energy programs he helped and failed.
Ask Obummer why China, Japan, Norway and England are spending billions on the renewable cheap hydrogen fuel and Obummer has cut the research budget into hydrogen fuel 90%
Ask Obummer why Norway has hydrogen cars that do not pollute and has hydrogen service stations?
Ask Obummer why he is against clean burning, unlimited hydrogen as a fuel!
Ask Obummer why he did not in 2008 send advisers to the American and Canadian companies to work with them on the oil pipeline from Canada to the U.S. so that the final plan would be automatic for his signature?
Why did he wait until the last minute to cancel that plan to supply America with thousands of jobs?
Ask Obama why he threatened Boeing for their S.C. plant and 5000 jobs?
Ask Obama why he refuses to analysis the successful private schools that send 100% of graduating seniors to 4 year universities?
Ask Obama why he took a 17 day vacation and did spend one day answering a court summons in Georgia? Ask Obama if he believes himself above the law?
Ask Obummer why he toured Gila Bend Solar Energy plant and claim it as his own success when it was created and built before he became president.
Ask Obummer what he did for black males besides double their unemployment rate from 10% in December 2008 to 19.1 % in December 2011.
Ask Obummer what he has done to promote family unity in black families. Two parent black families have decreased from 75% to 45%.
Ask Obummer why 60% of black children live in a one parent home and what has he done about it.
Obummer talks and does nothing.
Ask Obummer why he has not asked congress to repeal the 20 special laws for unions that are basically illegal for any business or company?
And while you are at it, ask Obummer why he hasn't had his relatives who are in this country illegally deported?
This is gonna cause some name calling! Where you at trolls?! Get in there and call some names to distract intelligent American citizens from these facts!
Watch out boys and girls, the BOGGY MAN is gonna make more promises!!
.Obama the promise BREAKER!! Equals a LIAR!!! BIG EMBARRASSMENT to the USA!!!
Obama’s promise that his healthcare proposals would “never be purchased with [a] tax increase on middle-class families.” The SUPREME COURT & JUSTICE DEPT say it is a TAX!!! .Attack on the middle Class! Taxation by misrepresentation---the LARGEST TAX in World History!!! Does he remove the tax part????....NO!!!
…….…NOW Obama wants to invade Syria and Iran!!!
..mr. American businessman..YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT!! It was stolen from the back of the worker---PURE MARXISM!!...this is PURE
…ANTI-American…tell it to Ford or Steve Jobs or the Mom& POP store on the corner>>>How is it that NON taxpayers built an Infrastructure??
Remember these?
THE OBAMA CHRONICLES:
“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
"I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."
“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
"I'll close Guantanamo."
"I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
"I'll unite the people of this great country."
“The TROOPS will be home for CHRISTMAS.” WHY ARE MORE LEAVING EVERYDAY???? AND DYING every day…
NOW Obama invokes Executive Privilege( as a Sen. called it’s use a RUSE!) for Holder on GUN SMUGGLING and killing US Agent Brain Terry!!! That only applies if Obama was part of it!! Obama & Holder should be on trial for giving Machine Guns to the Mexican Drug cartels!!
BETTER KNOWN AS LIES.
Fool me once shame on YOU!
Fool me twice shame on ME!
Even Joe BIDEN has endorsed ROMNEY for Prez!!!!
BozoHussan=Chicago MOB politics=NBC=GE= no taxes from the bought and paid for crony ==twist every crises toward Pravda PressPROPAGANDA!!
Mitt ROmeny said that it would be "naive" to go after Osama B. This is the A***e that wants to send YOUR CHILDREN TO WAR.
He has 5 sons that "ARE HELPING HIM" TO GET RE-ELECTED, SO HE WON'T SEND THEM TO COMBAT.
COMBAT IS FOR THE SERFS, NOT ROYALTY, ACCORDING TO ROMNEY. BUT HE IS R E A D Y TO START A WAR ANY MINUTE!!!!!
ANYBODY THAT IS NOT RICH IS A RAT TO ROMNEY
WHY DO REPUBLICANS HATE SENIORS? Seniors vote to protect their Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and the Post Office. Repubs want to privatize it all for greedy profit!
WHY DO THEY CREATE VOTER SUPPRESSION LAWS TO STOP THE ELDERLY FROM VOTING? Seniors vote to protect their Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and the Post Office. Repubs want to privatize it all for greedy profit! Romney and Ryan want to kill those programs for their greedy rich friends who want part of that action!
Vote President Obama/Biden and Team Democratic Parfty 2012, protect the elderly and yourselves from the greedy rich!
I volunteered back in '71,spent 15 yrs in the army,my only regret is that I had to defend worthless pieces of garbage like yourself.If you did serve you should do some self refection but chances are that you were protesting and had other "things to do".Most people who serve do it for love of country as for the "SERFS" you fools are paying out welfare to healthy adults who should be working but choose not to.Those people are your Serfs..poor and needy the way the Democrat party needs them....But explaining reality to a Communist is like peeing in the wind...:o(
Big Hooah here sir... That is a paid Obama employee making that comment, under the same name for at least the last four years. Same with starsailing, fiestyredhead, etc. If people understand that they work for this administration, then there is your insight into what has become of the highest office in the world. How shameful an employee of the administration would make such a ridiculous and awful statement about good men who they know nothing about in an effort to blind the American people. And to carry on as if you know anything about military life... DESPICABLE Right there is why these people HAVE TO BE SHOWN THE EXIT.
I think you did say you could do it in your first term, Mr. President.
Oh yes he did. Remember all that "yes we can" crap 4 years ago???? Well, yes he can, NOT!
PAUL RYAN PLEDGES TO TAKE ECONOMY DOWN THE NIGHT PRESIDENT OBAMA TOOK OFFICE WITH 14 OTHER REPUBS, THEN WHEN RYAN AND REPUBS ARE SUCCESSFUL IN TRYING TO SLOW THE GROWTH OF ECONOMY, RIGHTIES BITCH ABOUT THE ECONOMY NOT GROWING FAST ENOUGH!
RYAN TAKES PLEDGE AGAINST AMERICA , TO VOTE AGAINST ANYTHING GOOD FOR AMERICA.
Tomasgrande posted this on 8-12-19....Notice Paul Ryan on the name list?
The "Mother of All Wars"
From the article above:
Courtesy of Daily Kos,June 8, 2012
Courtesy of the National Journal, October 25, 2010
your a nitwit
and fake... Get off the taxpayer payroll starsailing, get off the message boards, and get to work at a new job!
And that would be six years after he leaves office!
He could add greatly to his credibility if he starts out by admitting that he was naive to believe that he could cut the deficit in half during his first term and then argue why he is much more realistic now.
kannin: Romney lost what little crediability he had by making all those "day 1" promises, like repealing ACA, and suddenly creating 250,000 jobs a month.
This article is about Obama, correct? He said it would be a long process in the article, however, when he was elected he said the follow:
“A year from now, I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some progress,” Obama says. “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
So what say you? Did he fix it? Or should he stick to his words and have a one-term proposition. Keep in mind, he thinks his job on the economy is "incomplete".
The old lies didnt work out, time for some new ones.
He promised within a year that Gitmo would be closed. It's still open
He promised that the unemployment rate would not go above 8%. When was the last time it was BELOW 8%?
The so called 4.5mil jobs he's created have mostly been low paying part time retail/fast food type jobs, while the jobs lost were higher paying jobs that could actually support a family.
Yes he did say that but that was before McConnell & the other republicans did say, "Lets make him a one term president" not exactly quoted, but to the point.
Also, I didn't see President Obama sign a pledge to Norquist to not raise taxes". All of the republicans pledged & I believe a few Democrats did to, aren't they suppose to pledge an alliance to the USA & its people. During the 2010 elections, wasn't the republicans & teabaggers running on Jobs, Jobs Jobs, well stupid us we thought they meant that they were going to help create jobs, but we must of not heard them right, since I haven't heard of any jobs bills being offered & the ones that have been brought forth from Democrats haven't even been able to come to the floor or filibustered. They sure didn't waste any time getting rid of that nasty bargaining rights for unions. I for one believe that a woman should be the only one that decides what she should or should not do. I believe that President Obama might not have realized the full extent of what was going on before taking office, how could he, he was not president & couldn't have access to highly confidential information. But
WHAT WAS SO "HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL"???? Are you off your rocker? Where was this gigantic recession that was "bigger than we thought" hidden????
Actually DO some reasearch and see how many bills Harry Reid is sitting on in the Senate. The House has passed TONS of legislation but Reid won't bring them to the Senate floor because they might actually pass (WITH BI-PARTISAN SUPPORT AS THEY HAVE IN THE HOUSE) and be good for people.
What else are the repubs trying to do to keep the 1% in power over the middle class with their money?
You see repubs creating voter suppression laws all over the country.
Alec( American legion economic council) is a group of people from corporations that meet with repubs twice a year to create bills that favor corporations. The repubs get campaign contributions for handing over the prize. Pennsylvania top repub just admitted to getting the voter suppression law passed to give the election to Romney.There was zero voter fraud! Rove /head of repubs commented that if they could get 1% of 9 states not voting they would win the election. Voter suppression to stop the young people from voting because young usually vote democratic because they care more about people.
In Florida, the first wave of people removed off the voter registration by repubs, 20% were legal voters that now have to jump through hoops to prove they are not dead, etc. That is 20% ...first wave...the repubs do not want you to vote! Only the rich 1% count!
In Maine the repubs created voter suppression laws when there was only 2 cases of voter fraud in 38 years!!! Clearly it is not about voter fraud, it is about keeping the elderly, the middle class, the young and the poor from voting. Roadblocks to keep you from voting.
Vote Obama/Biden and democratic Party 2012. End voter suppression on Americans.
Vote Obama /Biden 2012 protect Americans right to vote!
Signed--A PAID OBAMA EMPLOYEE FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS (thank you for your taxes), LOVE
STARSAILING
Fortunately the dems give no special treatment to their donors ...like unions. If people are too stupid and too lazy to get an id to vote.....I will not be losing any sleep over it.
“A year from now, I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some progress,” Obama says. “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
CJ: Presient Obama did not factor in the obstructionists Repubs....whose only goal was to make him fail....who on President Obama's first day in office got together and pledged to obstruct everything he did.
President Obama succeeded anyway...and will continue over the next 4 years.
I forgot that - thanks Dragon. By the way, did he have full control of the House and Senate in years 1 and 2?
Context, CJ - context please!
"But while there is no doubt the U.S. economy continues to struggle, an examination of the context of Obama’s 2009 comments to NBC’s Matt Lauer suggests his “proposition” might not have been as sweeping as Republicans make it out to be.
Obama was responding to specific questions about the Troubled Asset Relief Program and whether its economic benefits would merit the costs, then estimated at $700 billion.
“At some point will you say, ‘Wait a minute, we’ve spent this amount of money. We’re not seeing the results. We’ve got to change course dramatically?’” Lauer asked Obama.
“Look, I’m at the start of my administration. One nice thing about the situation I find myself in is that I will be held accountable. You know, I’ve got four years. And, you know, a year from now I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some progress,” Obama said. “But there’s still going to be some pain out there. If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
(source: http :// abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/fact-check-obama-and-the-one-term-proposition/ )
But I guess now we all get to see the "You didn't build that" and "We have to pass it to see what's in it" (partial) quotes taken out of context and used as speaking points too?
Dragon - Obama failed to factor in either facts or logic when he made those empty promises.
When Obama blames Republicans for his first-term failures, he is admitting that he would be equally incompetent in a second term: He is not getting any better at creating consensus, Republicans are not going to magically disappear, and his socialist plans for our economy are still going to be unacceptable to conservatives.
Thanks for clearing up the context Matthew. I was thinking he meant that if he didn't have an economical plan for the country in the years he would be a one term president. Clearly that's not what he meant - my bad. I'll have to educate myself more on his budget that he passed and check out the unemployment rate from when he came in office to what it is now.
CJ: Can you say filibuster...which Repubs used more than any time in the past....they set a record.
As we have seen when both Dems and Repubs, "full control of the House or Senate"....doesn't mean all their party will agree and vote with them. Dems have Blue Dogs, Repubs have Tea Party....both of which have vote against their party.
Kannin, let's not go there. You can't cooperate with folks that refuse to work with you AND deliberately set an agenda to obstruct.
It's like being in a traffic gridlock with no way off of the road. Being gridlocked in traffic has NOTHING to do with the individual skill of the driver. It has to do with being blocked from going forwards by circumstance you can't control.
kan: There is something to be said for when you know it is your last term at a job, you tend to "take the gloves off" and that is exactly what President Obama will do....he doesn't have to "play nice" with the Repubs....he can, and will, get things done without them.
He got many things accomplished during his first term, in spite of the Repubs, and will do even more his second term.
CJ - actually he did NOT have a filibuster proof Congress except for 44 days. We have explained this over and over. Please, try to keep up!
Obama/Biden 2012
Matthew - I don't see how your context in any way helps Obama's case. At very best, he was hopelessly naive. At worst, he was just lying to aggrandize himself.
He defined "failure" for himself, and then proceeded to fail, by his own criteria.
"Filibuster". How'd I do? I know in his 4 years of presidency, the school district I teach in lost jobs, froze salaries, and closed schools. I also know that my brother (who started up a business), lost money mainly b/c of Obamacare. He received $30 less per client that he saw. He looked to hire more Physical Therapist but could not b/c of his net gain was less then projected after Obamacare was put in place.
To continue the analogy Matthew, if your driver is hopelessly gridlocked, and has absolutely no control over the situation; then get out and walk.
Go for it CJ! Go check out facts, I encourage it!
You can find the President's proposed budgets at whitehouse.com (of course he can't pass them by himself, that requires Congress).
And while you're at it, check the unemployment trending curves and analysis studies that he inherited coming in to office. You can find those at the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the NBER.
And while you're at it, remember that even Gov. Romney admits that the consequences of economic policies (to include unemplyment) during a person's first year in office belong the previous adminstration.
CJ: Schools are the states responsibility, not federal. Many Repub govenors laid off teachers, cut school spending and froze salaries. Repubs are not big on education.
And Repubs say if you can't make it in business...that is your own fault.
Matthew - I now want to be a democrat b/c of that post. Thanks for pointing all that out. Now that I share the same views as you, could you please do the research on unemployment for me? Also, I would appreciate it if you would just send me some of your income my way as I sit on this couch. Since we are on the same page now, could also send me some birth control pills (paid by you of course) so I don't have to keep doing the pull and pray method with your mom.
Kannin, the quote was in response to questions about TARP which was used to stabilize the financial system AND which was fully repaid (with profit). He was referring to stabilizing the financial system, not everything having to do with all aspects of the economy.
Dragon: You are so right man. Republicans in fact HATE education. They believe in a holistic approach of just naturally absorbing information through social media.
You're an idiot.
"But CJ.... what about the stooockmarket????"--says absolutely no middle class person ever or anyone who knows anything about the stock value rocketing in direct proportion to interest rates declining (or in our case being held artificially low by the gov.) Yet that is what the trollers like Redhead point out for the blind kool-aid drinkers to repeat as talking points and neglect their own reason and sanity.
CJ: Glad you agree with me that Repubs hate education....at last you see the truth.
As for name calling, let me get down to your level "I'm rubber, you're glue, what you say bounces off me and sticks to you".
Yes, tell him Matthew, tell him about how he proposed the budgets that no REPUBLICAN voted for! Oh, wait a second, I'm actually doing the research as we speak.... hold on WOWWWWWWW
You're soooo right! I DID learn! NOT A SINGLE DEMOCRAT VOTED FOR THEM EITHER! NOT ONE, because your beloved potentate is such an arrogant money spending slob! I guess he really can't pass them by himself! "of course"
Dragon: You know what is awkward for you. I am a Republican... and a teacher.
CJ - Here's a discussion that shows the unemployment curve from December 2007 to Dec. 2009 http ://www .bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_01082010.pdf . Remember that the unemployment peak didn't cap until March-April 2010 but has since been going down partially because of the stimulus package and partially because of the increased confidence in the market after President Obama's efforts started to pay off.
When you have facts to validate your economic statements, post them and we can discuss it.
Kannin - (continuing the analogy) where he could, he did get out and walk. Quite often by himself.
Executive Order -- Accelerating Investment in Industrial Energy Efficiency;
Executive Order -- Accelerating Broadband Infrastructure Deployment;
Executive Order -- Promoting International Regulatory Cooperation;
Executive Order -- Improving Performance of Federal Permitting and Review of Infrastructure Projects;
etc.
Remember that it wasn't him that stopped the "American Jobs Act" (which would have helped in creating 2,000,000 jobs) or the "Bring Home Jobs Act" (providing a tax break to companies that returned jobs to the US from off shore locations)
Also, there were several small business tax cut and support bills that were passed in 2009 and 2010.
Presient Obama did not factor in the obstructionists Repubs.
Well then he should have! He knew that there was a chance his party would loose control at midterms. He knew about fillibusters. And yet he made the statement anyway. So if that's his excuse then he should have either said two years instead of three or he should have said "three years-in less the republicans get elected in 2010) He did not make either disclaimer.
Matthew and Dragon, give it up! You're out of your league and getting smacked around like little pu$$ys.
OldDog, unsubstantiated denial of facts doesn't mean the facts are wrong. It simply means a person chooses not to believe them.
Regardless of peoples' positions, I encourage folks to do their own research and engage in civil discussion that is based on evidence. That's how consensus is achieved, not through efforts to brow beat or to diminish others.
Sure CJ. I'll give up birth control when you give up all that free viagra you didn't take a pass on. For some women, to regulate horomones as they reach perimenopause, birth control may be a medical necessity. I find it a rather grand stretch of my imagination to classify viagra as a medical necessity yet that is offered for free. Where's all your outrage?
I see Slick Willy is still speaking out of both sides of his mouth! He doesn't agree with Obama, but endorses him for President. I'm tired of this biased media NBC. I don't want to let Obama add 5 trillion+ in debt for 4 more years! Unemployment numbers are not even accurate because you don't add the people who can no longer collect unemployment. Our nation is in trouble. Middle class is dissolving! I was one of 59 people from one school district who lost our jobs in May. We all have college educations and have had trouble finding jobs. Let's get our heads out of the sand and who would take the jobs of 100,000 soldiers if he really wanted to help with employment? We are heading into socialism if we continue with the current administration!
Kathy - Arkansas, well that explains your ignorant post. 'nuff said!
Obama/Biden 2012
Good one Seeking. Did you like the Clinton speech last night? Great, wasn't it? Where is he from again?
Hey Jennifer Psaki,
AKA FEISTY REDHEAD (obumbo's press secretary)...Why don't you post under your real name and stop lying to the American public that just think you are an average citizen.
Typical behavior behind the back demonpuke tactics!
Obviously "Sanity" is still seeking.....
SeekingSanity
kathy - I would not take SeekingSanitation seriously, you see she has a big problem. She does not have a real job, she hopes to grow up and be like feisty beisty. She will use the race card when they have no answer.
Feisty, NorthStar, Seeking what ever, and a few of these libs that live here, will call a black democrat a good person but a black Republican or any black that does not have her ideas is a bad black. They make fun of me because I'm a black latina and they call me ignorant and stupid.
This is my country and I will vote for Romney/Ryan this November.
Kathy from Arkansas, Good Post! Have you seen Obama's America 2016 yet?
i am looking forward to President Obama's speech tonight as the grand finale.
it has been excellent convention.
Factcheck has verified the numbers in Clinton speech from last night.
He will be the best surrogate for the President. Poor Romney has a couple of Southern governors making his case.
Fired up and ready to move forward...
I thought it was hilarious last night when they took the vote 3 separate times and it was more than clear the Democrats wanted no part of putting God or Jerusalem back into their platform. Yet the poor sucker taking the vote pulled an "Obama" and side-stepped reality. It was the funniest thing I ever saw. Better than the circus!
amerigal,
Care to comment on Elizabeth Warren and Bill Clinton great speeches that laid out the differences between the Democratic vision for America and Republican/Tea party vision?
I did not think so... that makes me laugh.
Glad you will be tuning in to the convention tonight.
Then Clinton went back to the hotel and partied with Monica while Hillary is away :)
"Then Clinton went back to the hotel and partied with Monica while Hillary is away :)"
Nahhh, Monica is so yesterday. I am sure there was someone to party with but not her. :)
MITT ROMNEY WAS MAKING AN A****E OF HIMSELF overseas, without being a President.
Do we really want to be back to be the laughing stock of the world, just like we were with George Bush?
Obama/Bidden 2012
Forward...straight into the ditch...under the bus...out of the frying pan into the fire... NOBAMA IN 2012. He failed...get over it and move on....by his own words...it'd be a one term proposition if he didn't deliver!!!! And some of you folks talk about liars.....????
Seeking Sanity - leave Arkansas alone. It - puke - gave you Bill Clinton, and that should thrill you; send a tingle up your dim-ocratic little leg.
Forward????? My foot. Record foreclosures, bankruptcies, unemployment over 8% for over 43 months - brilliant "Dims"
EREASERHEAD....YOUR REPUBLICON NEWT GINGRICH ...is on the prowl for his skank number 4....is number 3 sick yet? You know number 4 will be by Newt's side for you to put up for president and skank of the white house in 2016! How did that feel wanting mistress skank number 3 for first lady? Nice image huh?
Romney was watching the President's speech tonight from BeckyBeckyBeckystan and thought it was so good, Romney is going to flip flop once more and Vote for President Obama /Biden and Team America 2012!
Star have you completely lost your mind??? Newt is a joke, a pariah, yesterdays news!!!! HE won't ever be elected for dogcatcher much less President of the United States of America!!! Newt is pretty much a loser slut, we all know it!!! Get over trying to bash him becasue nobody CARES!!!
And if your silly little post #16.9 was an attempt at humor please stop wasting your time!!!!
I think most intelligent people recognize by now that Obama can't run on his record of failure. But a less-recognized corollary of that is that he can't fool the people with grandiose-sounding promises anymore either. If Obama now says: "Elect me and I will close Guantanamo within one year!" or "Elect me and I will cut the deficit in half by the end of my next term," he should be laughed off the stage.
He can't run on his record, he can't run on his lies and empty promises. So how can he run? Attack, attack, attack ... That's all he has left.
Kannin....has selective memory......pick up that bar of soap off the floor so you won't slip and fall and hit your head again.
President Obama is running on his record....where you want to start...saving millions of jobs in the auto industry or when he and team America killed Bin Laden?
Obama couldn't squash a fly if he tried!!!! Our military did the job, Obama had nothing to do with it!!!!
Poor Repubs....the DNC has outshone the RNC on every front, from speakers, to enthusiasm, to telling the truth instead of lies.
No wonder Repubs are in such a foul mood....it hurts to be humiliated they way they've been.
Yeah, we are upset that a former president.. only one of two who have ever been impeached did not make a speech, that our platform already had God in it and did not have to be altered after opponents pointed out it was missing.. and some our our delegates did not boo when it was announced it was being altered like the dems did.. that we did not leave the Jewish State out of the platform and then have to add points about it to the platform. yup, we really need a yes man and buffoon like Joe Biden and the Rev Wright, Rev Al and Rev Jesse, all racists of the first degree... yet called Rev. What a bunch of phonies.
prof: RNC did not even want Bush to appear....that says alot.
Did you know the Constitution does not mention God at all? You know that document the Repubs keep touting. I wish the Dems kept God out of their platform....majority of Americans want politics and religion kept separate.
Draggin' - in this case, dems are dim.
And just how many republicans have you talked to that say they feel humilitated etc.. etc..???? Dragon you do drag on and on and on!!!!
Dragon: Of course, the RNC didn't want Bush to appear. He's so yesterday. Republicans are the ones who are really forward moving. The Obama campaign is really the one who is moving backward. They have a dead guy "Kennedy" film and then they have a PAST guy president who lied to the world on TV and cheated on his wife. What a party.
Be sure and buy the new book coming out soon, it is an auto-biography titled AN IDIOT IN THE WHITE HOUSE THE OBAMA STORY and it revolves around a little boy who screamed racism, and then became a teenager and screamed racism, and became a little man and screamed racism, and ran for president of the U.S. of America and screamed racism, and then became President of the United States of America and continued to scream racism in spite of the fact that he has never been a victim of anything other than the bad joke god played on him by making him a crying complaining idiot who has it all, but whines anyway. Good story line and great title AN IDIOT IN THE WHITE HOUSE THE OBAMA STORY available in bookstores and brothels soon. Use your EBT card to buy it or obama your welfare momma can take some more money from the middle class to pay for a free copy for all the current freeloaders.
PAID FOR BY THE RE-ELECT AN IDIOT CAMPAIGN with donations from dumbocrats EBT cards that surprisingly still had a little change left on them even after the strip club, booze and casino expenses.
Nice yoyo!!! LMAO!!!!
Obama theme song:
Give me just a little more time, I find somebody else to blame!
Give me just a little more time, I give the rest of your country
away
In the anticipated line from him "I never said it would be quick or easy", really I remember someone who promised to cut the deficit in half in his first year, hmmmmmmm adding 6 Trillion later, now he says he never said it would be quick or easy. BAHAHAHAHA, he who can't remember his lies is doomed to repeat them.
yoyoma - when you can't bring reason to the discussion bring stupidity. As far as IDIOT....the old folks say "it takes one to know one!"
You just can not trust this President. He said if he didn't get the job done in three years he'd be a one term President. Now he's going back on his word and trying to run again. With that abysmal record, he should be ashamed of himself. However the American voters will definitely have their say in November, and I am looking forward to seeing the moving truck packing up their belongings.
True amerigal. I am in agreement with you. He also made a campaign promise that he would "end the war" and I don't see any fewer troops overseas than when he took office, the troops that were in Iraq are now in Afganistan. Once he was in office I believe that he realized that the troops had to stay. But most of all, I am concerned about the deficit. We as a nation can't afford another 4 years of this guy in office.
Security better keep a close eye on just what Moochelle thinks belongs to her on the way out the door!!!!
Fed ...you lied...the last troops out of Iraq are now home in Minnesota.....You are a liar!
Hey the convention is on....
Ok now they are saying anchor babies stand a chance It snot their fault... you know what that means.Have a bunch of kids Illegals we will take care of you.
You go Obama! The ILLEGALS are counting on you!
Obama/Biden 2012
freedom..not.....you know that President Obama sent more illegals packing across the border in 3 years than Bush did in eight years........ignorant or lying?
OH pleeeasse Star!!! That is a complete load of BS!!!
Obozo had enough time. It's time to go. You don't need any more eleaborate vacations you had enough at our expense.
You screwed up for 4 years, you don't deserve 4 more.
Paul.....how about the record amount of vaction by Bush the old brush cleaner....cleaning up brush to avoid being president, cleaning brush so Cheney could handle the job of president.......BUSH AOL from the president office. Like his service record....AOL.
Four more years? He said he was going to have the defecit that was left cut in half by the end of his first term. Instead he tripled it. Now he says he can fix it with more time? Phooey.
"Phooey??? Well that's putting it mildly Dean.
when Obama opens his mouth the words that come out are different,The devil
what does the democratic national convention and a nut house have in common?
they both have the same people in them
PAID FOR BY THE RE-ELECT AN IDIOT CAMPAIGN with donations from dumbocrats EBT cards that surprisingly still had a little change left on them even after the strip club, booze and casino expenses.
why did the democratic national convention switch from a 76,000 seat capacity to a 20,000 seat venue?
because the homeless people they were busing in to fill the seats demanded more money than obama your welfare momma had left in his campaign fund, what a surprise obama your welfare momma over budget again, go figure.
PAID FOR BY THE RE-ELECT AN IDIOT CAMPAIGN with donations from dumbocrats EBT cards that surprisingly still had a little change left on them even after the strip club, booze and casino expenses.
What do feisty and her minions and the DNC have in common. EVerything they say and do amounts to much ado about nothing!!!!!
Really? And what fine and cogent thoughts have you contributed here tonight?
Feisty: all I can say is you are doing some wonderful work. Amazing how one poster can get so many people so upset that they humiliate themselves in public the way this bunch has.
Geez, yoyoma, your ugly is showing. Hate much?
Newday, "returned", from where?? The sanitarium that feisty is based out of??? Don't really care what you think of my comments. Wasn't really intending to be completly serious or looking for an undeserved Nobel Peace prize like feistys' hero!!! And newday, it's feisty who is humilitaing feisty, quite publicly!!! IF you take anything that feisty says seriously then you really have a problem. You have a real nice evening now newday, ya hear!!!!
Undeserving? Was that the first time anyone ever received the award who was undeserving? I think not, don't be a jealous A-hole. Maybe one of these days you'll actually see things the way they truly are, not perceived through the eyes of FOX NEWS, the Teabillies, or fear of a black dick.