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Subscribe to RSSCHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Despite Bill Clinton's rousing defense of President Obama last night at the Democratic National Convention, the Romney campaign is doubling down on trying to use the former president to its advantage.
In a new video, the campaign dismisses Clinton's endorsement of Obama now as merely him being a "good soldier." It then cuts to video from the hotly contested 2008 primary battle between Hillary Clinton -- Bill's wife -- and Obama, when Clinton said, "Give me a break. This whole thing's the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen."
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It's unclear where or if the ad is running. The campaign did not immediately respond to an email on where the ad may run and rarely shares any guidance on its TV strategy. If it does run, it would be the first TV ad for the Romney campaign in more than a week and comes on the heels of the Romney campaign's $4.5 million TV buy made today and first reported by First Read.
The Romney campaign has been invoking Clinton on the campaign trail and in advertising as a way to draw a wedge between the president and moderate Democratic voters, particularly in the industrial Midwest.
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But by elevating Clinton and turning him into a fair arbiter, the Romney campaign took a big risk. And last night, Clinton showed he can speak for himself, clearly.
Here's the script of the ad:
ANNOUNCER: As the economy gets worse, Barack Obama calls on Bill Clinton to help his failing campaign.
CLINTON FROM OBAMA TV AD: “It’s about which candidate is more likely to return us to full employment.
ANNOUNCER: He’s a good soldier helping his party’s president. But what did Bill Clinton say about Barack Obama in 2008.
CLINTON FROM 2008: “Give me a break. This whole thing’s the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”
ANNOUNCER: 23 million Americans struggling for work. The middle class falls further behind.
CLINTON VOICE FROM 2008: Give me a break. I’m Mitt Romney, and I approve this message.
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That the problem???
Romney is stuck in the past. He is a Neanderthal on policy and issues.
Bill Clinton's speech at the Democratic National Convention last night the Big Dog just makes you feel so good about being you and believing the things you believe that he's a walking tab of Ecstasy, you feel good al over
Watch out for that baby boom of future dems; Myth
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President Clinton told the truth, and that is hard for Rinse and the RomneyRyan Voucher Brigade.
President Clinton explained how President Obama laid the foundations for a recovery that will last, and that we will feel it ourselves in the next four years if we stay the course. President's has paved the way for a more energetic, balanced, successful economy and shared prosperity.
President Clinton said our President was and is still, committed to compromise, despite GOP's open and devout obstruction to his recovery proposals and 2 milion jobs in the American Jobs Act.
President Clinton reminded us that President Obama is far more committed to deficit reduction than the Republican party. The RyanRomney budget would put $10 trillion on the deficit, while giving a new $5 Trillion tax break to the very wealthiest. RyanRomney would also make the Bush tax cuts permanent.
ON MEDICARE President Clinton tells it the way it is: "Here's what really happened....President Obama and the Democrats didn't weaken Medicare, they strengthened it."
Democrats put years on Medicare's life, while RomneyRyan would END it in 2016.
The RomneyRyan policies are tailor-made for the super-rich Adelson few.....versus what the 99% of Americans need to grow and thrive in a competitve global economy, while recovering from the most devastating recession in over half a century.
Ahhhh!
I see where Team Willard has resorted to selective editing! lmao
Desperate MUCH?
Where did Willard approve it from since he's been in hiding all week?
Maybe he's busy rehearsing answers to the "soft-balls" Gotcha Gregory will be lobbing at him on MTP Sunday...
Got to love Gotcha!
If he's not playing basketball with Lyin Ryan, he's rapping with MC Turdblossom!
Good Soldier – for sure !
Why wasn’t Bush in Tampa … bad solder ?
Hey, like Romney knows anything at all about "good soldiers".
Check out what he told this Vietnam veteran (and by all means, hang around for after his handlers hustle him off to another person). Too bad he never learned about not judging a book by its cover.....
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/284296_Oops!_Romney_Sits_Down_to_Chat
He took a page from Vietnam and just skipped it.
edit:
Romney is stuck in the past. He is a Neanderthal on policy and issues.
Bill Clinton's speech at the Democratic National Convention last night was the Big Dog just making you feel so good about being you and believing the things you believe. That's like walking in Ecstasy, you feel good all over!!!
Watch out for that baby boom of future dems; "MYTH"
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From the article: "...by elevating Clinton and turning him into a fair arbiter, the Romney campaign took a big risk. And last night, Clinton showed he can speak for himself, clearly. "
And by trying to diminish Clinton's successful appearance at the Democratic Convention, Romney is obviously speaking less clearly...and far less rationally...than Clinton himself.
Yet another FAIL in the Romney column.
"A good Soldier of the Truth" he is Mitt and one we're very proud of. It shows that Pres. Bill gutted Mitt and his campaign yesterday.........bloody soldier Bill. Actually, we dare you to embrass Bush in the public eye like Pres. Obama did with Pres. Clinton............never.
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This line should be edited. Here's what it should say: Clinton showed he can speak about himself, clearly.
When doesn't Clinton speak about himself... He's not nearly the narcissist that Obama is, but he runs a close second.
I know that Obama showed up after the speech to remind everyone that it was Obama running for president and not Clinton. Amazing how the Obama campaign was worried that Clinton would steal Obama's faux thunder. Obama doesn't have to worry about Clinton... what Obama needs to worry about is the electorate... and how dissatisfied they are with unemployment, national debt, and overall economic conditions of this nation. Not to mention the price of gasoline, price of food and the still very low values of property that are under water.
Yeah, a damn good solider with a argument that is devastation to your campaign.
Our President is fighting back against the Lyin a** GOP/Karl Rove Tea- tards/Koch Bros/ALEC
Promises Kept video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lA2fCs-_fyo
See more of President Obama's accomplishments at http://www.barackobama.com/issues
4 more years
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Mockingbyrd
The entire RNC argument was mocked by the good soldier Pres. Clinton last night. They didn't see it coming.
Nice to see at least one GNOPER is capable of recognizing the truth;
Bill is indeed a good soldier Willard, thanks for noticing!
hey guys you're so worried about Bush not being there for the RNC where is Carter? Would Carter being present symbollicly show that Obamao is worse? we'll skip the foreshadowing, he is LOL @ Libbies.
I wonder if Clinton would even bother with this stuff if his wife didnt have such direct ties to Obama's Admin?
Feisty
Secretly, GOP recognize the truth. They've got nothing. Hence, they make things up.
Good one, Dennis!
Why wasn’t Bush in Tampa … bad solder ?
Romney is a good little ho-ho of the Rich. He looks cute in his school-girl pigtails. Ryan and Romney=Ayn Rand love.
I want to know why CHICKEN Romney won't go on the air live and answer a few questions about his MATH.
Feisty - so let me see - the desperate group called on Gingrich? Let's compare Gingrich to Clinton - hmmmmmm. 'nuff said!
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I dunno ... maybe Romney can stand on his own feet and isn't desperate to bring in a guy from the last century, a guy that pretty much was the antithesis of Obama.
Clinton lowered the capital gains from 28% to 20% .... Obama wants to raise the capital gains tax along with other taxes.
Clinton lowered spending as a percentage of GDP .... Obama has exploded it to non-WW II record levels.
Clinton promoted trade agreements .... Obama does nothing after belatedly signing 3 agreements put together by Bush. Meanwhile ... China, the soon to be number 1 economy in the world, has signed 15 and is negotiating 20 more.
Clinton dropped national healthcare ... Obama crammed it down our throats against the majority of American's approval.
Clinton de-regulated ... Obama is an uber regulator - most regulations and costs to the economy in history.
How many do you want .... and how do these guys even compare for anyone with a functionin brain stem?
How come Obama has to trot out the good soldier on everything from commercials on bin Laden to the Keynote address.
Don't we need a big boy as president, someone that can defend his policies and himself?
Why doesn't the Romney gang wheel out George Bush to stump for him? George has been mighty silent.
just24
At record speed I might add...
Looks like Romney ain't changing his tune, poor Republicans instead of sound policies we get hatred, the Mormon way.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
just24
At record speed I might add...
AHA....Rep. Ryan beat you to it.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
just24
At record speed I might add...
Yup, I know that's right; GF.
Especially that LYIN' Ryan
http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/29/2012/09/05/118150_600.jpg
Caesar: "hey guys you're so worried about Bush not being there for the RNC where is Carter?"
Give us a break, Caesar - the guy is 88 years old. And I guess you weren't watching Tuesday night when he gave his speech anyway via videotape:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/04/jimmy-carter-speech-video_n_1852469.html
How old is George W. Bush? For that matter, how old is Sarah Palin?
next Romney will claim he is Santorum's best friend
you're right, i didnt watch the RNC either.
So you pretty much admit that Carter would be a bad idea. Age has nothing to do with it, hell even Eastwood get up there. Now go ahead and belittle Eastwood.
Member you guys have Biden and he does truly talk to oranges
Yeah, because age doesn't limit mobility or anything. You really are absolutely clueless.
Hey Ceasar (aka REREG -I guess now I know why my "ignore" is not working), Carter has left the White House 31 years ago. Bush2 was a president 3.7 years ago.
getting more desperate with each post
So.... Clinton hit a nerve I see. :D
coming from you Xabie, i find it rather comical. with advancements of modern medicine. Nevermind its Xabie
you keep calling me a re-reg but its just nonsense from your keyboard. Prove it or apologize for being a liar. anyways its not that carter hasnt been in office in 31 years, its that was labeled worst Pres until Obama, wait Obama is prez right? You guys keep deflecting any responsibility to him.
As for desperate not sure why you'd say that.
Jeff-1592116
big time but we all expected that
Actually it's getting better but lies are all the Republitards have. Bill Clinton did a fine job last night pointing out how much of a bunch of lying dick****s the GOP actually is.
Or Cheney (and his brand new ticker), or Rumsfeld, or Powell, or Ridge? The ONLY one from the last admin was Condi Rice.
If I may paraphrase:
"You don't go into an election with the party you want, you go into an election with the party you have."
The fact is the GOP has become a party of lies and hate and no new ideas.
Watching Clinton's speech last night I had visions of Rush Limbaugh hotboxing a cigar with rage in his eyes. :)
bob-1805084
I dunno ... maybe Romney can stand on his own feet and isn't desperate to bring in a guy from the last century, a guy that pretty much was the antithesis of Obama.
Clinton lowered the capital gains from 28% to 20% .... Obama wants to raise the capital gains tax along with other taxes.
Clinton lowered spending as a percentage of GDP .... Obama has exploded it to non-WW II record levels.
Clinton promoted trade agreements .... Obama does nothing after belatedly signing 3 agreements put together by Bush. Meanwhile ... China, the soon to be number 1 economy in the world, has signed 15 and is negotiating 20 more.
Clinton dropped national healthcare ... Obama crammed it down our throats against the majority of American's approval.
Clinton de-regulated ... Obama is an uber regulator - most regulations and costs to the economy in history.
How many do you want .... and how do these guys even compare for anyone with a functionin brain stem?
How come Obama has to trot out the good soldier on everything from commercials on bin Laden to the Keynote address.
Don't we need a big boy as president, someone that can defend his policies and himself?
#1.20 - Thu Sep 6, 2012 2:05 PM EDT
Bob: where should we start?
1) Obama wants to raise the tax BACK to the rates that Clinton had them ('remember when the economy was gangbusters').
2) Why do you think that spending to try to turn around the economy destroyed by his predecessor is not warranted? What did you want him to do? Stop spending money which would suck even more $ out of the economy? What economist thinks that makes any sense (don't say Hannity).
3) So Obama signs trade agreements but this isn't good enough? Literally you made the point of bringing up the agreements he signed and are arguing that he didn't "do anything". That seems contradictory.
4) Umm... Obama ran on a platform of doing the healthcare reform. If he HADN'T passed the plan you would be arguing he didn't keep a promise. What do you think people were voting for when they elected him? For him to NOT fix healthcare???
5) Regulations aren't good for the economy huh? So its total coincidence that just a short time after the Glass-Steagall repeal the economy goes into another depression? GTFO.
Look if you are not proud of your past presidents we understand: we're not proud that you got them elected in the first place. But don't argue that our presidents can't show up and support our current administration when you're party is running SCARED from your past presidents. SCARED.
Carter had a strong 20 minute endorsement of Obama that was taped or done remotely on Tuesday night.
Caesar Augustus-
too bad the modern medicine is not advanced in facial transplants enough because maybe then GWB and Palin could have attended.
Why would anybody want to speak of Bush avoiding Viet Nam, when we are speaking about draft dodginging, women molesting President Bill Clinton?
Jeff-1592116
Picturing Limbaugh in general would make me want to vomit. The guy is scum. And Romney is scum for not having balls to stand up to that scum.
basedummy -
What part of .... Clinton lowered the capital gains tax rate from 28% to 20% ... do you not understand?
Sorry, get back when you have a clue.
Hey Harry!
How's it hanging these days?
Had to re-reg again...eh?
UpstateNY2
the draft dodging is true for Romney and GWB. You can also add possible AWOL (conveniently missing specific documents), DUI and arrest for what was later changed to "misuse of medicine" to GWB resume
Nice try with the "women molesting" because since you have no proof of that, it could be considered libel. If you are referring to the BJ, I will take a president who gets some action on the side over one that starts wars and sends thousands of Americans to die in a war that was based on lies, misinformation, manipulation and greed.
bob-1805084
Clinton also increased taxes on the top 1.2% which worked out nicely for the economy, unemployment and our debt
What a day for Democrats? Just ask one and the Libspeak=Horsesh!t will fly.
A synopsis of yesterday:
Odumbo cancels the stadium because he can't fill seats. They had been saying "rain or shine" all week, but by yesterday it was clear it would really look bad for it to be half empty. Today's Weather: NO CHANCE OF RAIN. Empty seats..........Wasn't Clint prophetic.
They have to change their real beliefs and go back and add GOD and Jeruselum to the platform to pander to the majority of Americans that disagreed. They couildn't get a 2/3 majority to agree, so the poor guy couldn't figure it out. So he takes the vote 3 times. After the obvious no vote, he has to say "Ayes Win". Then they boo GOD!! And all the disagreeing Americans are watching, including me. I bet you anything they laughed their a$$ off just like I did.
Sandra "Slut" Fluke. No explanation needed. I think she had a Bill Clinton stain on her dress. Who needs birth control for that?
Elizabeth Warren. YAWN.
Slick Willie? Spent a good bit of the too long speech explaining why Odumbo is a failure. Most of the speech was about how much better a President he was than Obozo. I loved the way he would point his finger like he did when he said "I did not have sex with that woman." And there was just as much truth in what he said as there was then. You gotta know that the arrogant POS potus was totally pissed standing and waiting behind the curtain for the blowhard to stop blowing BS. And then Clinton looks like he's going to puke when Odumbo hugs him. Maybe the stank got him. HAHAHAHAHOHOHOHOHAHAHAHA.
OK now. The Libs love all this, as is their custom of ignoring the obvious. But who can ignore that "the party of women" played a tape of woman murdering Ted Kennedy and then bring out as their biggest speaker stained dress & cigar Bill Clinton to represent them. They are so stupid they see no problem with this. Will, normal Americans have a problem with it and, again, are laughing their a$$es off at your POS messiah and even more at you, the moron Libs.
What kind of political party boos GOD and cheers Bill Clinton?
NO MORE YEARS. THE END OF AN ERROR.
Wow, Feisty, I didn't even realize Jolly had been banned,...
Oh well,...(sic. - people, or corporations for that matter)...come and go so FAST around here!
-dorothy from an undisclosed location in Oz
Caeser: President Carter and President George H.W. Bush are both 88 years of age. I think it was okay for them to sit the conventions out.
That's some questionable wording there, Bob. Under Obama, the percentage by which government spending has increased with respect to GDP (and adjusted for inflation) is the lowest since Eisenhower. Obama hasn't exploded anything -- if anything, he stopped the explosion. Under Clinton, the inflation-adjusted growth of government spending as a percentage of GDP was 1.5%, then under Bush it skyrocketed to 5.9% (only second to LBJ's 6.3% as far as post-WWII presidencies goes), and under Obama, it's -0.1%. That means that, when you account for inflation and GDP growth, Obama has actually DECREASED how much the government spends as a percentage of GDP -- again, something no president had been able to accomplish since Eisenhower, let alone in the face of the greatest downturn since the Great Depression.
So, thanks for bringing that up. In attempting to make Obama look bad, you've actually invited me to bring up some numbers that benefit him.
Myth: busted.
Romney's right on this one. Both He and Ryan have Clinton's shoe prints all over their asses today. Good soldier indeed!
@JoAnne in PA
Great link to the gay War Veteran video! A millions thumbs up to that man!
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This from a guy who openly toes the line for the Koch brothers and Sheldon Adelson.
Or is calling Bill Clinton a "good" soldier just a way to distinguish Clinton from himself?
Hey Mittens....
Show us the tax returns or STFU...
Stolen from DumbFux's post:
The only problem is, the moment has passed. The election was not held last night... there's still a number of days before the people will cast their ballots. I can see the democrats in the house were all fired up... unfortunately the television audience wasn't there. They were watching a football game. Sorry Bill, the Giants and the Cowboys took it from you.
The R&R boys would never let the face that answers the question for voters of 'Are you better off now?' take the stage. Every GOPer screams 'Don't Go There' at the mere mention of Bush. Kinda like 'We don't need no stinkin' fact-checkers'.
Wouldn't it be grand to have GWB take the stage to answer that question? Popcorn sales would quadruple.
One BIG issue everyone seems to be missing is, President Obama had to RE-BUILD the foundation of the country before he could work on rebuilding our economy and jobs. Remember W had the USA in the whole, financially, politically and in job creation. He started a war, we could not afford, he continued to deregulate banks, Big oil and Wall street. He continued to give his BFFs tax breaks while taking away taxes from our cities and states. In the mean while, he threw those cities and states under the bus by decreasing monies to help with education, poverty, infrastructure and the list goes on.
I do not understand how anyone could blame President Obama for our current economy or joblessness. Like I said, he had to fill the huge hole (deficit) before he could start a sound foundation, in which to rebuild, our country and our future.
President Obama has had to deal with the party of "No" and people who have only one agenda. In order for anyone to make a educated decision, on who to vote for in November, one has to look at all the facts. And that means looking closely at Mitt Romney, as well.
I cringe at the thought of Mitt winning the election but I have educated myself on his resume. He fails across the board, regarding his concerns for his fellow man. He wants to be president, no matter how much it costs or who get hurt.
Lastly, I worked at a phone bank this week to see what my neighbors are thinking and to get their input regarding the up coming election. I was astounded by the people who said they were NOT going to vote at all! As an American who has lost family or had family fight in every war, since the Revolutionary war, I would dishonor those who fought and those who gave their lives, for the freedom to vote.
If you do not vote, then you do not have the right, to complain about the future of the United States.
I found it funny the Romney campaign refers to Obama's campaign as failing... It's obviously working when your opponent takes quotes out of context and refuses to run a campaign with fact checkers.
I cannot wait for the national debates and the results in the polls.
Jerry, where'd you get your weather forecast for Charlotte from, Ryan?
This is an act of desperation by the Romney campaign.
And Romney's campaign all falls apart from here...................
BHO needed a draw so he wasn't the only one at DNC.. Thanks Bill, you saved the show..!!
Romney once again uses a sound byte taken out of context...
Bill Clinton was addressing a town Hall meeting when he was asked about favorable press coverage of Obama vs unfair press coverage of his wife, Hillary. He wasn't calling Obama's campaign or policies a fairy tale as Romney would like you to believe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLDx4NZr2u4
Thanks for that Ray! *copies link for future use*
At their convention, Republicans hide their former presidents. George W. Bush was nowhere to be seen and not even mentioned. They act like he never existed. Republicans don’t want to remind the nation of their former president. Bill Clinton takes center stage in prime time at the Democratic convention. The reasoning is simple. If Bill Clinton could run again, he would win in a landslide. If George W. Bush could run again, he would have a hard time carrying Texas.
I'm thinking of filing a lawsuit against Mr. Romney.
I went to the RNC website where I bought a Mitt Romney weather vane.
Even in calm, windless conditions, it began spinning so rapidly that it screwed itself right through the roof and into the living room floor, damn near killing the dog in the process!
Kharson, I sign my check on the front and back. If you do not endorse it, you cannot cash it. Are you still trotting out that only the poor want Obama? I own a business and I know from 38 years of owning a business, that a Democrat in the White House is way better for my business than having a Republican in the White House.
That's because Democrats try to make life better for the middle class and the poor and they happen to be most of my customers. The Republicans like to help those at the top even though they don't need any help. They are doing just fine and not many of them are anyone's customers except for yacht builders and mansion builders and Mercedes, BMW, Cartier.
JERRY40YEARDEMOCRAT you lose all credibility with your profile picture unless that's Michele and you in the picture. You have nothing in your argument but name calling. You lost already, it happens when you don't have any original thoughts.
As for Fluke, if insurance has to pay for your lack of prowess (unless your on top of your sister (wait your turn the line is around the corner)), Viagra, then yes, insurance should cover contraception (too bad your mother didn't understand this before you were born)
Your obviously a troll, apologies to real trolls. BTW, every down the middle political commentator has said that both Michele and Clinton's speeches were better than anything put forth by the GOP. No surprise there.
Brian999431- Whats worse losing out to the first NFL game of the season or losing out to "Honey Boo-Boo" besides they created this thing called the Internet, TIVO, DVR. You may have heard of it, not too mention there will be countless replays. After tonight, we all will be watching as Obama tap dances on Romneys face during the debates. The VP debate will be great too as Biden, is a no holds barred type an will utterly destroy Ryan.
Face it the party of the weak minded, store bought Republicans is done!
Fine. Thank you, and that should have been the end of the story.
But nooooooo, Romney and his henchmen are so jealous they're literally trying to twist those words all around and make a really big stink out of a simple observation one world leader said about another.
Mitt Robme and the Republicans are furious and why, because the same could NOT be said about Robme.
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Clinton spoke in favor of President Obama and nominated him for POTUS.
However, Newt Gingrich didn't retract ANYTHING he said about Mitt Robme during the Primaries.
Watch this (30 minutes Newt Gingrich ad about Mitt Robme, the vulture capitalist):
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/01/12/anti-romney_movie_by_pro-gingrich_pac_when_mitt_romney_came_to_town.html
TO: gcooper8 who wrote:
It sounds like it's working just fine.
It's just an example of how fast Mitt Robme would screw Working Americans, the elderly, the middle class, and the poor.
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Hey Clara!
He's on his fourth re-reg!
First he came back as Mrs.JollyOldSoul, then, yourealoser and now we have clown boy...
Tick...tock!
I wonder why no one "stole" President Obama's birth certificate? Maybe because the G.O.P, already knew he was born in the United States or they are too dumb to read a legal document.
I too, am ready for the debates. I cannot wait to see Mitt make a fool out of himself. And as for the Veep's, I wonder if Joe Biden will have to genuflect and kiss Ryan's ring?
The Republican Party is like dying animal lashing out with anger and hate. Even after all the nice things President Clinton said about REAL Republicans last last night Romney still didn't have enough class to respond by saying something positive............ Romney, Ryan and the entire Republican/Tea Party are an embarrassment to this country and should be expunged from our political system......
When the Romney's, Bush's, and other elitist Reich-wing draft dodger's kids enlist in the military, THEN they can run off at the mouth about what it takes to be a "good soldier"!
Good soldier? Try great soldier! Was this supposed to be an insult? Because if that is the case it will back fire like everything else Mitt Romney does. Bill clinton is absolutely adored by seniors, huge miscalculation. They know that he cleaned thier clock last night.
Bill Clinton was never a good soldier. He was a draft dodger. He was a liar. He was a womanizer. And, when it came to marijuana, HE NEVER INHALED. Don't forget about the people that came forward to testify about his character, all dead. When the Grand Jury held him in Contempt his defense was WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF "IS"
What testimony? Who is dead? What are talking about. Sure, the womanizer claim may be the only thing you can say about his character. But I would not bring up draft dodger when defending Mittens
"Despite Bill Clinton's rousing defense of President Obama last night at the Democratic National Convention, the Romney campaign is doubling down on trying to use the former president to its advantage."
Hmmm! Sounds like "sauce for the gander" time to me!
I suggest the Democrats simply replay comments made about Mr. Romney by ANY of the other Republican candidates during the primaries.
And, unlike Mr. Romney's tactic, the quotes would not need to be taken out of context!
Then, instead of "doubling down," Mr. Romney will, most likely, be "doubling over."
Caesar Augustus,
"Age has nothing to do with it, hell even Eastwood get up there. Now go ahead and belittle Eastwood."
Yes, but Eastwood is only 82; not 88 like Carter, and as you age each additional year feels like a century. I speak from experience.
Bayllie -- My "ignore" is not working either. I hate it when I accidentally read one of Caesaar's posts. I hope this gets fixed soon. Until now I hadn't read of anyone having the same problem.
CO,
Same here... you just have to learn to scroll a little bit faster!
Let's see ... Bill Clinton was getting his Presidential knob polished by Monica, lied about it under oath, and now he is the Democrats' poster boy for truth ? LOL !!
Clinton's best accomplishments were getting welfare reform bill signed and signing an "almost balanced" budget. Both of those came from a Republican congress who Clinton found a way to work with.
Obama does not have the skills to work with others ..... it is HIS way or no way. But Obama is adept at shifting blame to others for his own incompetence !
WHERE'S THE BUDGET BARRY ? WHERE'S THE BUDGET HARRY ??
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Have to resort to spamming the board? One post isn't enough?
Why don't you put your energy into finding a J-O-B, you leech?
Rather than responding to an empty comment?
You have waaaay too much time on your hands...
Empty comments are the only ones against which Brian can argue without fear of being beaten.
ZING!
Good thing I wasn't sipping a Diet Coke when I read that! lmao
Brianb-999431
Have to resort to spamming the board? One post isn't enough?
BB shot like one of my fav Clinton lines last night "There you go again. you are just like Ronald Raygun. There is no amount of the truth that could grasp your pea brain. Why do you jump aboard that Nazi ship with the rst of you tea tards suffering from Tourette syndrome?
Bon voyage:
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Hmm so, disappearing posts is Newsvine dumping spamming.
This is an act of desperation by the Romney campaign.
And Romney's campaign all falls apart from here...................
feisty I think you have been snorting coke
@eric-913730#2.7: Desperation and constipation. Gwad, what a fix!
For Fiesty Redhead, who's often the first one (and certainly, the most frequent one) to post to complain about somebody else having too much time on their hands is the height of hypocrisy.
What scares me most is that she may be representative of millions of voters who think name-calling is a substitute for thoughtful discussion.
good soldier vs. bad vulture?
I take good soldier....even if bad vulture wants to bribe me with his money which should have been paid as taxes to our government
Poor Clinton, a good lawyer defending a guilty client! Let's see how much Biden will damage his chances to stay on the gravy train of a horrible President.
Why do the libbies fawn over Clinton so much... the guy cooperated with Republicans while President and what do you know, the economy prospered! Obama doesn't cooperate with anyone but himself! And Clinton ruined the lives of his several mistresses (all women I might add), Monica being the most hurt by his lies.......
I see the chances of rain in Charolette... are zero percent! Perhaps the many empty seats of the open air stadium was the real reason for change of venue... eh? lol
Best to check BB's comment history before accusing anyone else of name-calling & thoughtful discussion!
He's as dirty as they come....
Great points George Hayduke! Clinton only wants Hillary to run in 2016, his support of obamanation is suspect! ' Good Soldier' my feisty red a$$! He only wants to go back to the White House! To hell with Barry!
Point taken. The right-wing posters are as bad as the left-wings in turns of name-calling and meaningless posts.
What a pity that we have to choose between a party that believes everybody should be dependent on the government and one that says we were better off when abortions were performed by unlicensed doctors with crochet hooks.
Hey George,
Clinton speaks truth. Clinton produced our nation's only balanced budgets since 1960 and according to my world atlas he did four of them. Bush took those surpluses and turned them to deficits giving money to the rich who did not need it, starting two wars, passing an unfunded prescription drug plan, ignoring the impending housing crisis, ditto the financial crisis.
You can mit pick, but I prefer to put our nation's best interests and the truth above republican lies and private indiscretions. By the way, what was Newt doing with his office staffer back in 1997 while his second wife who he was married to was battling disease? I saw this blonde haired former mistress sharing lines with him in Tampa last week. She is now his 3rd wife and his ex is pretty outspoken about it.
I know this is a change of subject; Am I the only one that's ticked off about the hundreds of millions of dollars that were STOLEN from the American people and are now being used to spread lies about Democrats.
DNC convention news: Democrats who accuse Republicans of looking backward dredge up Bill "I did not have sex with that woman" Clinton from the past to suggest his marginal success can be repeated by ObaMao in the future. In other news, Wasserman-Schultz gets caught in another flagrant lie, and the demos pull God and Jerusalem from the platform (of course no one knows how or why that happened) and then reinsert same to the obvious objection of the majority who were then proclaimed to be 2/3 in agreement. Of course, when the convention closes and the lights go out, when the bands stop playing, the vital statistics of a horribly failed presidency will still be the same, 44 months of unemployment over 8%, a $16 trillion national debt, a $3,400 per family decline in income, a failed stimulus program, no approved budgets, uncontrolled illegal immigration, costly security leaks, overt denial that medicare is going broke and no plan to ever balance the budget.
yeah little Al from Vegas... I guess you are the only one who believes that libbie lie! lol
Bet Willard won't say it to Bills' face!
...But hey, Willard, how's your relationship with Dubya?
Willard is going to have the opportunity to say his piece in the presence of President Obama in the presidential debates and I am positive Romney and his handlers are dreading that moment. If Mitt's dismal performance in the GOP debates...against a pathetic field of intellectually challenged competitors, no less...is any indication of his limited mental prowess and excruciatingly poor debating skills, he is going to fold up like an origami dressage horse!
Sailcat-2064101..but, how do you really feel...:-)
Just a tad too circumspect, do you think, chilled? lol!
Sailcat - so you like Mitt's chances, right - of going home to ride the car elevator?????
Obama is gonna wipe the floor with Mitts!!! I can see that deer in the headlight look already!!!
Obama/Biden 2012
Absolutely Sailcat....you're spot on.......
Right on Sailcat. Can't wait for the debates. I think Biden is going to wipe the floor with that snot nose punk Ryan; and Romney is going to look like Mr. T at the end of Rocky III after going a few rounds with Obama.
It'll be a bloodbath, that's going to leave the Republicans on their butts wondering, "What happened?". It'll be great!
I like Willard's chances. Dammit!, if I could only get my mind to fathom 'em. I'm still having a problem with the sound of Ryan's voice. Has a very irritating "humping" quality.
If you are considering voting for Romney, ask him what he'll replace Obamacare with.... or how he'll pay for additional tax cuts to the rich....
Good luck getting a straight answer
Yeah, let's see old Mittens and Bush getting chummy, after all, Romney is using Bush's economic policies.
I just read in another article that Romney was going after pizza! He finally got a job that is beneficial to the American people perhaps but, is he qualified?
Mitt will be ready. The GOP have something up their sleeve.
Ken -
Maybe the GOP will wire Willard like they wired Bush Jr during his debates with Kerry or was the hump on his back just trying to act like Quasimodo as in the Humpback of Notre Dame
Romney just wishes he could be a good soldier.
What would that be? Stolen wristwatches, perhaps?
Yes, because what would Bill Clinton know about the economy? He only presided over the largest economic expansion in history and the lowest unemployment in over thirty years...
You mean during the .COM boom... he really had to do much didn't he.
Does Mr. Romney really want to go there given that worse was said about him by this year's collection of GOP "also-rans"?
Their soldiers weren't even in line.
All they did was self promote for a possible 2016 run.
Priceless, though!
Pretty hard to find a quote about Romney in Chris Christies' keynote speech, since it was all about setting himself up for a run in 2016! Seems to be a theme in this convention - Republicans are letting Romney take the fall while they prepare to run after President Obama's next term.
Interesting choice of words as last night Bill stated Willard & Co are "doubling down on trickle down" This ad is one heckofastretch ... and Mitt's whiny voiceover at the end ... gag!
Layton-3733410
Interesting choice of words as last night Bill stated Willard & Co are "doubling down on trickle down"
Layton,
That is so funny. Last night my honey and I were high fiving each other and LOL are a**es off. We thought President Clinton said double down on "triple" down. Since we didn't have the captions we said that is so soulful.
It was one of our favorite lines too.
Being Canadian I probably have no right to comment on this election because I am not living the difficult lives that you people are living. So I will just speak on what I have been following with Romney speaking and Obama speaking as well as Bill Clinton's speech last night. The problem I have is I cant listen to Romney speak because he truly creeps me out. He hides behind religion and doesnt know the first thing about it - what I have felt is that he seeks out what would be popular to do and then he changes his course midstream to pick up on those voters. After the mass murder I saw him interviewed about the fact that he once signed a bill for stronger gun control and when asked about this he hummed and hawed and said something stupid in reply. Of course that isnt popular right now - you dont campaign on gun control so he changes his theory on that and lies to the people. In layman's terms he just comes across as *stupid*. Just my opinion. As for Obama I was worried when he got in not because I didnt like him or his ideas - I felt he was too inexperienced for the job. And that inexperience has showed at times for sure. But he was handed a mess to clean up and the people wanted him to clean it up in 6 months and if not - let's go back to the other guys. We do that here too and we always pay for that decision. I feel that if Romney gets in you people are in big trouble - but if Obama gets in you stand a chance. He has had 4 years of experience and tough decisions and I think you will see change in the next 4 years cause he has a handle on things now. As for Bill Clinton last night I thought he blew it out of the water - especially because he backed what he was saying with *facts*. I didnt like Clinton as a person or a President but I always liked listening to him talk - in that department he has a silver tongue. But last night he was right on target and he cleared up a lot of things I didnt understand about your country and what you were going to go through if Romney got in. And again he backed it with facts and figures. He didnt talk above me - he talked to me and I heard him loud and clear. Yes it appears that Obama has done nothing in the last 4 years because 4 years isnt enough to solve the problems (2 wars for one thing) he was dealt when he took office. I believe like Clinton that the next 4 years will show more and more progress. With Romney whom I cant even listen to I couldnt make that prediction. If you cant believe your President then who can you believe. I do believe that Obama is for the middle class and Romney if for the rich so of course the rich will flourish under his leadership. Clinton set the tone and the facts for Obama tonight - I just hope Obama goes with it and takes it home. Again - these are just my opinions and no way am I saying what is the right thing for your people to do.
I have the same gut feeling about Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan. They are like a car saleman who would tell you that the car you are looking at can do 39 MPG and go 250 MPH when the car sticker states 29 MPG (mis-stated the fact) and when you look at the speedometer, (like fact checking) tops at 200 MPH.
All just to make you buy the car. I will be walking out the dealership fast.
I think your comments are welcomed Shar, they were quite sincere and spoke to some of our situation down here without bias. I'm glad we have allies to the north and I hope, should Rmoney somehow win the election, you have pretty lax laws about illegal immigrants from your south.
SHar, I agree with your assessment. I, for one, appreciate the unbiased opinion of a bystander who is not involved.
I have a huge problem with "Give the rich people more money and trust them to take care of the others." They didn't get their vast wealth by looking out for others' well being....
A better formula, which makes more sense, is to put a little more money into the consumers' pockets, (the poor and middle class.) Their spending will have a more direct positive effect on our economy.
I work in an auto repair shop. In the past 10 years, the shop labor rate has risen from $65.00 an hour to $106.00 an hour. My pay during that 10 year span has risen $1.00 per flag hour. So, the big guy gets $40.00 more per hour and the little guy gets $1.00 per hour. In my opinion, this is similar to what Mitt Romney is trying to sell us all, but on a much larger scale....
The Washington Post points out a few stats:
Median household income fell 4.8%, to $50,964 from June 2009 to June 2012.
Incomes have dropped more since the start of the recovery than they did during the recession itself. (Recession was from December 2007 to June 2009.)
Median income is 7.2% below the December 2007 level. (8.1% below the January 2002 level.)
Households headed by blacks saw their median income drop by 11.1% over the last 3 years.
Households headed by Hispanics saw their median income drop by 4.1% over the last 3 years.
Households led by the self-employed saw their median income drop 9.4% over the past 3 years.
Median net worth of families “plunged” by 39% in 3 years, from $126,400 in 2007 to $77,300 in 2010.
Unemployment was at 8.3% in July, marking 42 straight months of unemployment over 8%.
5.2 million people, or about 40% of the unemployed – had been out of work for more than six months.
8.2 million were working part-time because they could not find full-time employment.
Obama's Gotta Go - One & Done - The Experiment Has FAILED!
And yet the USA is still recovering from the global recession faster than almost all other countries.
Harley,
Please give us something to compare this with like …
Same stats for the Great Depression
Same stats for the recession of 1980 (2nd worse recession since the Depression) that was half the depth of this recession
Xabre - well there ya go quoting facts! That's too much for the right to understand. Their heads are still spinning from the dressing down they got last night!
Obama/Biden 2012
Ignore the tail,...
it only wags the dog.
Look I made a funny.
From An AP article checking claims made by the administration
I will admit it is better than zero but lets call them what they are. Recovered jobs. But I guess we wouldn't want to do that. Doesn't sound quite as praise worthy as created. 300,000 were all that have been created (ones that didn't exist in the first place). (CNN Fact Check)
I bet those working the 300,000 jobs could care less if you call them created or saved, makes no difference to me, it still means that many more people actually have jobs than would have had if we had kept letting the republicans drive the truck in reverse (R). Not sure why so many are having a hard time, guess they never had a hard time before. In the 80's life for working/middle class folks was pretty awful, we remember that, we know this is not nearly as bad for us as the 80's was, and the big lesson we learned? Trickle down does not work for anybody except those getting to trickle. The rest of us just feel wet and stained. No R what so ever, No Romney/No Ryan/ No Republicans - no thank you, I don't think I enjoy what trickles down on my working/middle class family enough to go back to the 80's, thanks for asking. The answer is still NO R.
Jobs are not being created. Some businesses have no choice but to hire people... even if it hurts their bottom line... they must look to the future and a lot of them have held out as long as they could in hiring. How is this attributed to Obama?
Most liberals are under a false illusion about job creation... they will grasp at any straw to hold on to their messiah...
Here's a fact liberals seem to overlook... it takes 250,000 additional jobs per month to keep up with population growth. Since it appears there's job growth, let's apply it to the standard of 250,000 per month...
40 months at 250,000 per month = 10 million jobs
Obama's additional jobs = 4,500,000
Seems Obama is coming up short 5,500,000... and that is less than 50%... where I come from, 50% is still failing. So all you liberals must believe in failure... no excuses.
One other thing... how come liberals never include the loss of state and local government jobs in their numbers? I know the reason... it would reduce the 4,500,000 number to a whole lot less...
Liberals - the masters of illusion!
Harley...you're wasting your time. Everything you posted is Bush's fault. Responsibility rolls off Obama like water rolls of a duck.
BrianB: If you had any clue whatsoever, you'd know that the baby boomers are retiring. That number is overblown to say the least.
Now go back to your therapist's office and ask him why you're such an unfit parent.
"The vast uncertainties created by Obamacare create a special problem. If employers knew that Obamacare would add $1,000 to their costs of hiring an employee, then they could simply reduce the salaries they offer by $1,000 and start hiring.
But, since it will take years to create all the regulations required to carry out Obamacare, employers today don't know whether the Obamacare costs that will hit them down the road will be $500 per employee or $5,000 per employee. Even businesses that have record amounts of cash on hand are reluctant to gamble it by expanding their hiring under these conditions.
Many businesses work their existing employees overtime or hire temporary workers, rather than get stuck with unknown and unknowable costs for expanding their permanent work force.
As unusual as 9 percent unemployment rates may seem to the current generation of Americans, unemployment rates stayed in double digits for months and years on end during the 1930s. Franklin D. Roosevelt's administration followed policies very similar to those of the Obama administration today. He also got away with it politically by blaming his predecessor." - Thomas Sowell
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/275799/unusual-economy-thomas-sowell
hs321
Thats why im trying to figure out why the guy wants another 4. Nothing is his fault and he Got Bin Laden. Stellar record, definitely noteworthy of 4 more. please.
Let me know when Obama is at least ready to play president
Harley Chic-----------------You do know it took 21 years to recover from the republican debacle in 1929 and it took a world war? I have no desire for world war 3 so I'll let the president continue on the path we're on.
Let's look at your numbers and extend your logic, Brian. Using YOUR premises and YOUR numbers, then before the recession ended, the economic policies of the prior Republican administration was the source of losing 750,000 plus the 250,000 additional jobs a month to keep up with population growth.
So I guess you are now telling us that the prior Republican administration was responsible for 1 million job losses per month instead of "only" 750K?
why bother stating facts the airbags on here don't deal with facts, fiction and fairy tales are their speed!
"Governments — especially state and local ones — have continued shedding jobs."
But wait..... I thought less government drones was supposed to be a GOOD thing! Just ask Chris Christie - he's gotten rid of a ton of them!
"According to the BLS current population survey (CPS), the unemployment rate for New Jersey rose 0.2 percentage points in July 2012 to 9.8%. The state unemployment rate was 1.5 percentage points higher than the national rate for the month. The unemployment rate for New Jersey in July 2012 is at a new high."
http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/new-jersey/
Anyone else notice how the whole theme of the GOP convention was supposed to be about the economy and unemployment and it's the one thing Chris Christie never talked about in his speech?
For the conservatives on this board, I understand what you're trying to imply: that Obama isn't doing his job because the economy is not recovering fast enough. But i have two questions for you that I'd seriously like you to address:
1) I thought the government doesn't produce jobs? I mean I've been told for years that the government should just get out of the way and then jobs would come. If that's the case then why do you keep pointing to the economy that you say the government doesn't and can't fix?
2) Do you really believe that the economy which crashed before he took office would be recovered now with a republican in the white house? Do you really think that the job losses which come from the current recession are attributable to something that Obama did? I seriously would like you opinions on this. No judgement. Just asking. I'll wait to see some replies.
50% does not have to be failing if you apply proper standards.
I wanted to go to Harvard but I had a 3.0 at my current college, so I filled out the forms saying that I was a protected class and they said that 3.0 is a great GPA. I can then become editor of the Harvard Review, run for Senator of Illinois or Massachusetts or even become President of the United States of America.
Harley Chic, Why don't you ask all those "job creators" that got all those tax cuts. Somehow they managed to increase their wealth--I wonder how--maybe by cutting peoples salaries, making them pay more and more for their benefits (which lowers their take home pay).
BrianB asked why democrats don't state and local government jobs losses. There are 2 reasons for this
a)because they are talking about private sector jobs (remember republicans say government jobs don't count it is the private sector that counts)
b) because it is the republican policies that have shed those jobs. If the republicans (like all leaders in the past republican and democrat alike) had increased public sector jobs during the worst recession since the great depression or at least kept those jobs the unemployment rate would be much lower and the economy would be in much better shape (more taxes collected and money in middle class family pockets being used which would stimulate the economy)
With regard to uncertainty over taxes-I saw an interiew with Marc Cuban, he said when deciding whether to invest in something or not, taxes never even enter the conversation. So stop with your BS, If the demand is there for your product or service then you will invest in your business. Taxes are part of your operating expenses. But NO ONE will invest in something that the people have no interest in, that would be like opening a steakhouse in India (in case you didn't know cows are sacred there)
Bill Maher said it best..
"if your party can run a nation for eight years, and have a national convention and not invite Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Collin Powell, Karl Rove or Tom Delay, you're not a political movement. You're the witness protection program".
The difference between Republicans and Democrats.
Republicans: I've got mine, you get yours.
Democrats: I got mine by hard work along with a lot of help from others. If you are willing to work hard, we will help you get yours just like others helped us.
Your numbers were interesting Harley Chic, do you have any idea what they would have been under Rmoney and Ryan?
Harley B--ch,
The fact that you support the party which cares NOTHING about you or other women proves that you have no self esteem. Perhaps you should move to Afghanistan and wear a burka, then you can walk behind men and keep you eyes looking downward....
Are they going to make stickers with a circle and the letter R in the middle with a slash through it like the ones for W. If so I want one, that would be great, it would stand for Romney, Ryan, and Republican all at once.
nah Randy... hardley chic is the correct spelling. He just slipped off his suzuki one day and bumped his head. Hasn't been able to write an accurate thing since but he uses his sister's picture instead
I knew Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton could work with the Republicans. Mr. Obama you are NO Bill Clinton! Romney/Ryan 2012
Yes, they played so well together.
I guess you're forgetting that little $85 million boondoggle and Kenneth Starr, right?
Your side is just completely full of @!$%# on this meme.
We lived it. We know the truth.
Pssst. Bill Clinton wasn't (Black) so he didn't get the FULL onslaught of the Tighty Righty WRATH. But we saw enough to know up from down.
How much money did Starr waste again? Yeah he was a real fiscal conservative.
On the night of the inauguration, Republican leaders met and decided to absolutely oppose anything Obama proposed, to not give him a single vote in support of any legislation, to filibuster any bills. And now you claim that it's Obama's fault that the Republicans wouldn't work with him? How do you figure that?
And all the Republicans got for their $85M investment was egg on their faces and a second Clinton term of office. Not very bright, were they?
Xabre who writes,
Not nearly as much as the 4.5 trillion that Obama and his administration have wasted.
Have you calculated how much that 4.5 trillion divided among one member of each household in the US would have been?
Oh, my God, talk about trickle down economy. I apologize I used the name of God in FR. Are we going to hold a vote on the floor?
Have you actually learned to speak Spanish yet? Or are you still blaming those damn 'nuevos socialistas' for your intellectual deficiency?
Concerned Citizen
You realize the majority of the debt run up you blame Obama for was for bills that were lying in wait to be paid from under the Bush administration. 2 un paid wars and losing 500k jobs a month while falling into a depression. So Obama needed to pay the bills left for him( even though the GOP would have rather let the country go bankrupt then pay the bills there party racked up) and to stop the bleeding of 500k job loss a month money was spent and the bills left for hi were paid. Like e throwing a big party at your house, pissing on your rug and destroying all your furniture then you get mad at the person who you have to pay to fix it while not giving me an ounce of blame. Cause i dipped out and left without paying for my party, in this case 2 wars and a tax break to the rich along with the nice loophole in prescription benefitbills not paid for
Jolly
Go work your twisted fantasy elsewhere. What's the matter? Did mommy change the wifi password so you had to create a new account at the library?
Willard is a loser.
No Willard, good soldiers are what that collection of clowns that spoke in Tampa are. Their speeches were equal parts self promotion and equal parts attacking Obama. They knew they were speaking on behalf of a loser, a clown, a poser the complete and utter fraud that is Willard Mitt Romney knowing a good section of their own party can't stand him, let alone the American people. It's all over but the crying so you might as well stock up on tissue now Willard!
Al in CA - you have said it right!! The RNC was filled with one disastrous speaker after another beginning with airhead Ann, spewing her animated stories, then more lies, deceit and scare tactics - as only the GOP does so well. I as a woman do NOT love Ann as she cried "women I love you". Whatever - why don't you leave us alone and let women make their own decisions in their lives then maybe we might like you too! And who does these polls??!! I have never seen them and how this clown (Willard - love it) can be 6 points ahead makes me wonder where the American people were educated. More dumbing down of America I guess as I see the writing on the wall loud and clear. OBAMA again for me in 2012!
Al, I do have to disagree with you a little. I would not use the word "good " to describe Christie and the others that were supposed to be supporting Mitt. That was more like friendly fire
“If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from.”
“Because if you don’t have any fresh ideas, you use stale tactics to scare voters.”
“You make big elections about small things.” [*cough*Buffett Rule*cough* Gays, bullying, typos, Dogs, BS Bs BS]
Romney-Ryan 2012 !!!
If you don't have facts to rely on, then you can always deflect.
Keep spewing your incoherent drivel...that's what libs do best, FP.
Facts are for Conservatives - Lies are for Liberals...you are proof. ;)
Keep pretending you have even the slightest comprehension of topics at hand. And for the love of God take ten minutes on a stair-master.
And you have just described the whole republican ticket - thanks HC, didn' t know you had it in you to tell the truth! by the way, do those bikers really want to be with a chic who does not believe in birth control? There you go again, day dreamng about what you would like to be.
Harley - your posts today just emphasize the desperation of the far right. Just continue because you're giving the rest of us our laughs for the day. You have no facts - just the usual GOP hate filled talking points full of lies and deceit. But, it's what you Republicans do best because it's all you have!
Obama/Biden 2012
Harley Chic... I wouldn't be so quick to claim the Democrats as the biggest liars, nor would I rely too heavily on the truthfulness of Team Romney.
Look at these two pages:
Mitt Romney's Truth: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/
Barack Obama's Truth: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/
70% of the time, Romney is telling us Half Truths to flat out lies. 70% of the TIME!
Obama lies too, but quite a bit less than Romney: 53% of Obama's statements are half truths to flat out lies.
47% of the words coming out of Obama's mouth is truthful. Close to half the time. 30% of the words coming out of Romney's mouth are truths.
We have a president who's truthful with us 50% of the time. Why would we "try our luck" and put an untested guy into the most powerful office in the world who tells the truth less than a third of the time while he's trying to win the job?
Most politicians lie. Romney takes lying to a whole new level. And Ryan? 72% of whatever he says is a half truth to an outright "pants on fire" lie. I think you better recheck your premises. You're sounding incredibly uninformed and unintelligent.
Let's flush this Romney/Ryan turd before they clog our pipes with their lies.
Trickle down does work, it's a well known fact that the stuff that trickles down from the head on Romney's yacht, to the holding tanks or bilge is pumped out by a guy at the bottom. While in U.S. waters, if he is a registered worker, the guy gets at least minimum wage but in international waters who knows?
That old saw about "if you don't have a record to run on" was Obama's comment on John McCain's tactics, not an announcement of his own. One more out of context misquote. Gosh, the right does this soooo well.
One big problem. Clinton endorsed Obama at the 2008 primary.
And this opens Romney up to the criticisms of GOP opponents from this year.
...and here they are...
Republican Hypocrisy:
Here are some quotes from other Republicans about Romney and his stellar potential as a presidential contender:
(When asked why Mitt Romney is attacking President Obama for Medicare provider cuts that Paul Ryan’s budget embraced.)
Let's face it folks... The Republicans aren't all that keen on their man Romney... Why should we be?
Good soldiers win wars.
Bill is merely "paying his dues" so he can get Hillary in position to run.
Obama has NO BUDGET(S), NO PLAN and NO CLUE ! Four more years of failed policies is not going to work. The weak jobs report out today is proof !
Geez....are there enough days left before the election to start splicing tapes together of the GOP nominees calling Mitt a useless turd and show them ten times a day....
I keep waiting for the video that has him endorsing opposite ideas on every issue.
b dune...
Your wish has been answered:
Republican Hypocrisy
Here are some quotes from other Republicans about Romney and his stellar potential as a presidential contender:
(When asked why Mitt Romney is attacking President Obama for Medicare provider cuts that Paul Ryan’s budget embraced.)
Let's face it folks... The Republicans aren't all that keen on their man Romney... Why should we be?
The Bill Clinton on TV last night bears a very close resemblance to the Bill Clinton who spent eight years lying about the fact that he repeatedly groped and flashed women. If, and only if, you believe the "I never had sex with that woman" line should you believe anything he said last night. He has lied so many times to so many people that even he may believe his stories; but I never will.
No one cares Elder Al. Take your geritol and go back to sleep.
Elder #14.3
And didn't that look alot like Newt Gingrich last week in Tampa....you know the one who stood on the mountain top chastizing Clinton for sinning....telling all the World how they should live their lives...
Funny how you pubs always remember half of a story!
You know ElderAl... If that's the best you have ("The President was a horny bastard who got caught in his lies"), then you don't have much. Men cheat on their wives. It could be pastors, teachers, firemen, policemen, Army generals, astronauts, Boy Scout leaders and so on. It's a biological urge that often gets the better of the man.
If you want to go down that route, then we certainly can talk about:
You're right, ElderAl. This is a fun game. Let's keep playing.
Wow... So many naughty Republicans... I haven't even gotten back in time to Clinton's Presidency... Don't worry, we'll get there...
Almost back in time to Clinton now... Whew... What a trip down memory lane.
There we go... Okay. Now we're back to Bill Clinton. Please tell us every bad thing he did.
Anjisan -
Don't forget the biggest adulterer of them all - Knute Gingrich - leading the charge against Clinton while he was sighted in the DC parking lot with Callista's Blonde helmet head bobbing up and down on the front seat Plus Gingrich then was expelled from Congress with a $300,000 fine on ethics violations
Then there is Diaper Dan David Vitter caught with DC prostitutes - and they re-elected him in Louisiana
Plus John Ensign - Senator from Nevada - who was having an affair with his aides wife and left Congress before he could be censored
Darn this is exhausting - there's just too many of them
Hey ElderAl - Get the drift?
Mitt Romney has no policies except a continuation of Bush policy pushed to the 10th power. ya' know the Deregualtion and Tax Cuts which crashed the USA Economy, The Banking, Industry and the Home Real Estate Market.
Not only have these Bush/Repuclican policies already failed MASSIVELY -- The RNC not only wants you to forget about that and pretend it didn't happen and did not exist .. but the GOP also wants to pretend Bush does not exist. Whereas the Dems are HAPPY to embrace the last Democratic President.. the RNC hides from theirs (George W. Bush) for good reason.. Romney wants to do pretty much the exact same thing.
What is the definition of crazy? Doing the same failed thing..over and again and (somehow) expecting a different resultl. Mitt Romney is that same FAILED thing.
Romney is a wall-street right wing pawn with no principles of his own.
Romney is an empty suit with nice hair. While Clint Easwood talked to an empty chair. Voting for a Romney for President means a full chair filled by an empty suit.
Michael F. - Very well said. And Clint Eastwood ought to be ashamed of himself; but then again he's an old boy and probably didn't really know where or what he was doing there nor who he was lambasting. Maybe he thought he was in another one of his new movies talking to the Mutt and his Jeff - he's so confused .....
@lovelyladys
i have a slightly different take on the Eastwood performance. Mr. Eastwood is a libertarian, and was actually the only speaker through the whole convention that brought legitimate criticism to the President's record. bringing up GITMO, 23 million out of work the way he did, and a few other points. After that, it was the invisible Obama routine, and that highlighted the alternate universe that the republican party is operating in now. The Republicans have built up straw man Obama (meaning the informal logical fallacy of a straw man), and Mr. Eastwood demonstrated this through his performance.
Gov. Gary Johnson should send a thank you card to Mr. Eastwood for that speech, as it is my opinion that the non-extremist portion of the republican party will start looking at Gov. Johnson, the libertarian candidate for president, pretty seriously after the RNC. i could be wrong, it has happened before, but that is what i saw going on...
@ tzalaran: That's an interesting take on Eastwood's performance. Something to think about - Thanks. If enough folks are persuaded to vote for Johnson because of this, you realize Pres Obama will sew it up for the next 4 years. From your lips, to God's ear, as my Jewish friends say. Still going with the President, tho. Libertarians are too hands off for me, they would let the states run amok.
All my take on picking Clint Eastwood was because of Eastwood's ad at halftime during Super Bowl looked like he endorsed Obama so the sleazy Republicans wanted to refute that perception
Little did they know this would backfire - they were so eager to discredit Obama that they shot themselves in the foot
Ha! Ha! That's what happens when you salivate too much to get revenge
The big spenders supporting mitt romney has nothing better to do with their money; well I have a suggestion, why not try paying your fair share of taxes. One reason they have all that extra money laying around is because they have relied on the middle and working class to pay for all their benefits.
They need to do their fair share by the country and pay their taxes.
it will take Romney a long week to get into real campaign argument, because he is out of words and he has to brush every off to seem like he is still in the game.
In God We Trust not Obama! Sick of the negative ad's then the Democratic party should have never went in that direction. Romney Ryan 2012, build on that.
Dude, if you want to back Romney you should not be be throwing around the argument of negative ads. It is all that we are seeing in Iowa from the Romney camp. Sure Obama is negative to, but as they say what is good for the goose....
Team RR are getting more pathetic by the day. Lie after lie after lie. Get caught in a lie? Just repeat it more often. Clinton just a loyal soldier and repeating attack ads from 4 yrs ago? All righty...we are gonna bring out all the attack ads again of RR opponents. The sad thing about this is that both RR , prior to this, had reputations as relatively honest folks. Now, they have been exposed for the liars and frauds they must have been all along. sometimes people really do want something too bad...these guys appear to have sold their souls. The american people are just not that stupid.
this campaign has made me really miss John McCain. He at least had the backbone to stand up for what he believes in and wouldn't stoop to enflaming the remnants of bygone days...
Why wouldn't Mutt approve the message? It's his own ad. I could never understand the Repugnican need to reaffirm confidence in their own words. Perhaps this is simply because no one else is doing so.
Bush and the Republicans pulled the plug on the economy. It took eight years for them to screw it up. Now they want it fixed in four. Well guess what it's not microwave popcorn or minute rice. It's going to take time to fix. When you have no help it takes longer. Maybe if our reps do their jobs we would be better off. Have you ever seen a president get less help then ours. Come on guys do it right for a change'
You mean Freddy and Fanny right?
Bill told it like it is. Fact Checkers are having a difficult time finding any lies in this speech. The guy knows his stuff. He is smart, well spoken and a leader. Mitt is jealous and has chosen a liar for a running mate ( no pun ). If this is a good soldier we are lucky to havehim in the Democratic Party. He spoke for my beliefs and why I'm a Democrate.
Did they even find anything wrong? I haven't heard.
They claimed the medicare argument against the republican ticket was misleading, because they (Romney/Ryan) haven't 'officially' endorsed a plan and so we really can't know what they will do.
the 24 years dem control 42 milion jobs, 28 years republican control 24 million jobs was spot on though, as were most of the rest of the numbers he quoted. My wife sent me an email and the Clinton speech's fact check is on factcheck.org now...
Here ya go Xabre:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/fact-checking-bill-clintons-speech-and-other-democrats-at-the-convention-in-charlotte/2012/09/06/55b9df68-f7e1-11e1-8b93-c4f4ab1c8d13_blog.html?wprss=rss_politics
That's one so far. It also checks a few other "speakers".
http://factcheck.org/2012/09/our-clinton-nightmare/
Minor stuff really.
ShinyLittleRedSnout - You and your minions are so obsessed with sex maybe you should relief yourself - and don't come back - we'll understand!
If that's the best you have you have nothing - last I looked humans are sexual animals - and what we do is between us and our partners - and certainly not a little pipsqueak who has accomplished next to nothing in this life and uses a childish name like yours
Pretty infantile in your statements and avatar!
So the Romney ads want to go back to the Democratic primary fight between Ciinton and Obama for their argument? OK, so lets go to the 2012 Republican primary fights and see what great things we can say about Romney from his loyal Republican opponents. Would be a comedy show at best. Not thinking this through are they?
Using President Clinton in ads will not help these idiots, President Clinton has put them in their place and they still want to use him in their ads, this lets me know they are living in CRAZY WORLD!!!!!
What's hysterical is they are using Clinton in their ads while their crazy base is out in full force on the hate Clinton express. I'm not connecting how they think touting someone their nut case base clearly hates will help them. This one is a head shaker. Next thing we'll see is Gingrich praising the Clinton administration. LOL
I guess Clinton is a good soldier. Too bad republicans don't have anyone in his weight division including their candidates this year.
What I think is funny is.. Here Romney is using a boat load of TV ads and he is not disputing anything that Bill Clinton said last night. He and Ryan have not said one thing..
Because they cant!!
AJMo3 --- You are right on the mark. Thanks!!!!