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WEST LEBANON, NH -- Mitt Romney emerged from debate rehearsals in Vermont today to pick up some pizzas, and to deliver his own analysis of the first night of the Democratic National Convention, which he said could not make the claim Americans were better off after President Obama's first term.
"You've heard no one stand up and say that people are better off than they were four years ago," Romney told reporters traveling with him as he picked up several extra large pies at a pizza joint here. "They really can't say that. They can't say it in all honesty. Particularly with the news that has come out this week."
Wednesday: David Gregory previews tonight's speech by Former President Bill Clinton at this week's Democratic Convention in Charlotte.
"That news: The national debt tripping $16 trillion dollars for the first time, and the number of Americans receiving food stamps topping 47 million, up 15 million from when President Obama took office," Romney said.
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"The American people are not doing better and this president understands that and I think that's why people are reluctant to even talk about it because they know the American people know better," Romney said, echoing his campaign's latest line of attack against the Obama administration, after several top Obama advisers fumbled the "are we better off" question on last Sunday's talk-show circuit.
The comments to reporters marked Romney's emergence from a day of strenuous debate preparation at the secluded Vermont estate of his former Lt. Gov. Kerry Healey. Romney and a small coterie of aides gathered at the house yesterday morning for a series of mock debates with Ohio Sen. Rob Portman, who is playing the role of President Obama for Romney.
"I'm just glad I won't be debating ... Rob Portman in the final debates," Romney said. "He's good."
Slideshow: Democratic National Convention
Here in the mountains, with limited cell phone and Internet service, Romney said he did not watch Michelle Obama's address to the Democratic convention in Charlotte last night, and that regardless he only had praise for the first lady.
"I didn't see her speech, but I certainly respect the first lady and think she's, she's done a fine job as our first lady," Romney said. "Lovely person and I respect her."
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So where are your tax returns Willard? Also, if you and Anne want to see the White House, I suggest you book your tour early. Seats fill quickly on this one!
Mr Romney. If you think Portman is difficult, wait until the President gets a hold of you. He'll twist you like a Pretzel. I'll give him credit though. At least he was gracious about the First lady.
You taxers kill me. And the birthers were bad? LMBO
btw - didn't Portman play Obama in McCains preps?
Just asking!
Talk out your A$$-Taxers? Seem to recall that my employees received a nice Federal Withholding tax cut courtesy of the Gubment.
Guess you "earn" so much that you didn't notice the increase in your paycheck! Right?
MITT ROMNEY, Known LIAR, admitted TAX-CHEAT, possible FELON who only avoided those FELONY CHARGES by illegally "RETIRING RETROACTIVELY" from BAIN CAPITAL, while Legal papers still showed he was the CEO.
Is there anybody out there that can tell me what Planet anyone, except a Mitt Romney, can "RETROACTIVELY RETIRE". I'd like to hear. Is that even Legal? Please Inform, ok?
or Obama the Geat and Kind and Merciful.
You be the Judge.
And what's this I hear that Mitt Romney and his "little sidekick Paul Ryan want to start a THERMAL NUCLEAR WAR with the RUSSIANS, is that True?
Well Mitt ----we are better off, because we no longer are losing 7000 jobs per month, instead creating new jobs.
We are better off because the economy is growing rather than contracting at 6%.
We are better off because the DOW is up over 5,000 points in the last 4 years.
We are better off, because Osama is dead and GM is alive.
We are better off, because we no longer are fighting war in Iraq and spending billions of dollars of US tax payers’ money there.
We are better off because we now have a well defined policy in Afghanistan, and we have dismantled the Al-Quada.
We are better off, because we have a president who is working to build the middle class everyday.
Yes, but more work needs to be done but we are much better off that we were in 2008. And Mitt -- your plan of cutting taxes, increasing military spending and more deregulation is exactly what caused the Bush depression in the first place.
The national debt tripping $16 trillion dollars for the first time, and the number of Americans receiving food stamps topping 47 million, up 15 million from when President Obama took office,"
What more needs to be said?
Hopefully they are under subpoena, now that Romney/Bain tax evasion is under investigation
Hey, Talk to the Hand, we saw Obama's birth certificate, over and over. We have yet to see Mitt's tax returns.
Have you seen his transcripts, you know, the ones where he applied as Barry Soetoro as a foreigner? Well, have you?
and can any of us from the Working and Middle-Class take our OLYMPIC DRESSAGE SHOE HORSE off as a phony TAX-WRITE OFF, pocketing More Money than half the population, by merely lying to our Accountant that said Horse is now a "THERAPY HORSE"?
Well can we?
I didn't think so!
Still waiting to hear from you Republicans and Teabaggers, what the Heck is "RETROACTIVE RETIREMENT".
Does that mean after Mitt Romney closes our Factories and Steals our Pension Funds for his hidden Swiss Back accounts, we can "RETIRE RETROACTIVELY" to get those Pension funds back. Can we?
I didn't think so!
And what's this I hear that Mitt Romney and his "little sidekick" Paul Ryan want to start a Hideous and Horrific "THERMAL NUCLEAR WAR" with the RUSSIANS?
That's the "word" on all the blogs!
joe, lol dont you think if the GOP could have proved it by now they would have? Im pretty sure they have the connections, and I doubt they didnt try...so, in short, if they gave it up why cant you people??????
Torpedo you
You way underestimate Romney. Gingrich has the IQ to wipe Obama. But Gingrich was vulnerable to overreach and being stubborn. That is why Romney chewed Gingrich up and spit him out over his investments. Romney also stung Santorum on one issue a couple of Debates before, but Santorum was smart enough to see the losing position and back out.
Obama is brash at times and is prone to say off the wall things when off teleprompter. This will give Romney one or two opportunities to nail him to the wall. Romney is cool and patient, and will nail the opportunity if he sees it.
I expect this to occur in over Bain or the Tax returns.
Now, Romney's foreign Policy will not be as polished as Obama's, so look for Obama to hit an win on that area if Romney falters.
Yes, wasn't that bush/cheney thing just "AWESOME"!!! Burning Brightly, turn off the high beams- their blinding you. Do you honestly believe that the everything was just honky Dorie on Pres Obama's first day in office? And all of this just happened on his watch?? So by your reasoning, Mitt should have full employment all covered up by April 1st, 2013 if by chance he wins (well, we know its not "chance", now don't we). I'd say along about April 3rd, we'll be bombing Iran and/or North Korea, balanced budget on the 5th, and world hunger solved on the 7th!! You betcha..
Burning Brightly! Is that a reference to your hatred, because it's certainly not your intelligence. Do you remember what happened 4 years ago?People like you are ridiculous.
That is correct Burning Brightly and as long as Republicans pay their fealty to Grover Norquist and insist that even the most inconsequential tax increases are off the table, Republicans have zero credility on this issue. The only Republican President in the past 40 years who left office with a smaller deficit than when he took office was George HW Bush and we all know how much you crucified him for raising taxes.
Hey Torpedo - I was referring to the boneheads that want to dwell on Romney's tax returns. Lay off the liquor for awhile.
Joe, I saw his birth certificate. The real one...not the one produced by Fox news.
Dear GOD,
please don't let Mitt Romney and his "little sidekick" Paul Ryan, take us Back to those Dark days of Dick "Darth Vader/Death Star" Cheney and George Bush, or that "little-turd" Karl Rove, or Haliburton Oil, or BlackHawk mercenaries, etc. etc. ad nauseum.
And please GOD, don't let Mitt Romney totally DESTROY the MIDDLE-CLASS, 'cause that's what he, Mitt Romney, and Paul Ryan and the Republicans plan to do.
Let's all Hail Obama! Ruler, Master and Overlord of all you Republicans and crazy Extreme right-wing Wacko Teabaggers, for the Next Four (yes! 4) very long years!
Ain't Life grand?
The libs' squirming here to avoid answering the deadly "are you better off" question is downright amusing. And, no Dem wants to answer "yes", for fear their pants will burst into flames.
The brain trust of the Democrats, Biden, said, "yes."
'nuff said!
Oops, sorry world, I accidentally upped spider's comment when trying to reply!
Yes I'm absolutely better off. Personally and within the depths of my soul, as a result of Obama's presidency.
Charlie-1915998
700,000
DB..Interesting. Gingrich is a historian and prefers to place his arguments in context with the past. Plus he had a lot of "personal issues." He also went off track with his 'bases on the moon" comments. Santorum and the rest tried to hide behind their ideology by throwing red meat to the base.
After watching him dismantle the Republican caucus meeting he was invited to in 2009, I expect Obama to make Romney the "Tarbaby" unlike the "Teflon President": Ronald Reagan. We'll see.
Again, President has met the standard for releasing documents to run as President. Romney - not so much! What IS he hiding????
Obama/Biden 2012
Romney built a business
Made money
Fired the employees and 44 million dollar bailout
He built that
And again all you Undecided Voters, don't forget that the "little-turd" (George Bush's Pet name for him) Karl Rove is knee-deep in Financing Mitt Romney's campaign thru Karl Rove's personal PAC company!
And MITT ROMNEY has already solicited, and met, and ACCEPTED "tainted blood money" from DICK (Darth Vader/Death Star) CHENEY, and has also accepted Endorsements and money from DONALD TRUMP.
I'd say that's going back to the "dark days" of the GEORGE BUSH and DICK CHENEY Regime.
And they want to have THERMAL NUCLEAR WARFARE with the RUSSIANS?
Hey Willard, cough up those tax returns and we'll see how much better you are doing under President Obama...
HEY Libbies, listen up!
You Liberals blame the 112th Congress for all the problems we have.
Of course your biggest bogeyman is those all powerful, progress-denying, mean, nasty, Tea Party members.
Yes, all 65 of them. Out of 535 members of Congress 65, mostly first year, Congress members have obstructed all of Barrack Husseins magical cures for our economy.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Only in the convoluted mind of Liberals can this be the case.
Now, the Democrats had control of THE 110TH AND 111TH Congress from January of 2007 until January of 2011. So, if the controlling Congress is to blame for all the problems we have then the economic collapse of 2008 is ALL the Democrats fault.
BTW LIBERALS, WHERE ARE THE JOBS AND WHERE IS A B U D G E T?????????
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
Taxers...............if that is all you have it aint much. Economy is bad......show us your taxes. Iran is getting nuclear weapons.........show us your taxes. Worst and slowest recovery ever...........show us your taxes. Debt is over 16 trillion dollars.........show us your taxes. If that is your answer then it's over. Sometime Obama will have to answer actual questions. I think if anyone is not wanting to debate it is Obama as he has the record to defend. I see a Carter/Reagan debate scenario just as Reagan sealed the deal with America at that debate I see the same thing happening at these debates and Romney will seal the deal. If most political pundits from both parties are correct then history says the undecideds don't want to vote for the incumbent as they already know them they are just waiting to see the challenger and they always have gone to the challenger in the end.
@spider... & @ Bill.... please see post #1.6 for the answer to the better off question. Then tune your black & white tv sets to a local channel 10 pm ET for complete coverage of why "AMERICANS ARE BETTER OFF THAN WE WERE 4 YEARS AGO!"
Vulture/Voucher 1040
Obama/Biden 2012
JimSpence, you got to make stuff up to feel like a man? The democrats didn't have control of congress anytime. Look up filibuster and find the truth and then come back and apologize for two things. One, voting for George W. Bush that put us in this mess and two for lying through your teeth.
John in Battle Creek - actually the Democrats had total control for 44 days. Wow!!!
The far righties on this site always conveniently turn this into 2 years!
Obama/Biden 2012
I would imagine that 147,000 American soldiers home from Iraq consider themselves better off. You Republican haters are disgusting.
MAybe the question should be this..just what has the republican congress or house done for this economy..other than to block anything that might have possibily helped this nation as a whole..instead of worring about the wealthy and their funding for this election ? What they have done amounts to what Ryan claimed with his marathon run....was a lot about something that did not happen. A lie by Ryan and a lie by Romney do not make it good for this country.
How about the two years prior to the 44 days (2007 through2008)? Full. As you boneheads say, you can't blame it all on the president.
Al in Visalia CA-#1- The question that should be asked is, "Mr. Romney, are you better off today than you were 4 years ago? Now to prove it either way you will have to produce your tax records from at least 2008 to the present."
kimH-1330542
No haters kimmy. You Libbies should be glad President Bush made sure we didn't stay any longer than necessary in Iraq.
On Nov. 27, 2008, the Iraqi Parliament ratified a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the United States that set a course for an end to the United States’ role in the war and marks the beginning of a new relationship between the countries. The pact called for American troops to pull out of most Iraqi cities by the summer of 2009 and set the end of 2011 as the date by which the last American troops must leave the country.
Thank you President Bush.
Now, if we can just get Barrack Hussein to quit dithering with Afghanistan and bring our brave troops home so they don't get shot in the back from the growing Taliban and Al Qaeda presence we'll be OK.
Maybe if Barrack Hussein was less worried about Governor Romneys taxes and trying to get more money from real American people by raising taxes we could start a real economic recovery.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 for real Americans
MR. Romeny, You lied again. I am a liberal and did say that we are better off.
As a Independent Voter I havent seen much of anything from Romney to make me want to vote for him, Obama bad Me Good just doesnt cut it with me. What really scared me though was him saying he wants to put boots on the ground and start a war with Iran, 80% of the American public are tired of wars and he wants more, Hopefully POTUS will come with a clear vision for our future
RepublicansForObama-6186389
You are stupid and ignorant. The papers did not say he was CEO, they were filed because he owned a large interest and REQUIRED by law to be filed. That does NOT mean he was actively managing them. And you @!$%#s insult birthers! Jeez. Read the news instead of your fellow libs talking points and learn how to THINK. You are such a simpleton you get the ignore button so I don't have to waste even 30 seconds reading your mindless drivel.
When did Romney say he wanted boots on the ground? I missed that. Show me the citation and I too may change my mind.
Off the subject but an example of the craziness on the right from one of their spokesmen and biggest buffoons.
JC you may be correct, but you cannot insult someone, no matter how intellectually insulting they are.
Me too. I'm far better off than I was four years ago. My business is doing better, my 401 is doing way better. What's the problem Spider, your welfare check doesn't go as far as it used to?
It doesn't matter whether liberal, progressive, libertarian, or conservative, never offend someone who has a large TV or Radio Audience. Realistically, you can never treat anyone rude, because you have no idea who they know or where you will meet them again.
I'm doing about the same... but I do worry about the people on planet Kolob.
DB - I would have a hard time hiding my dislike for this disgusting little man should I ever be so unlucky to encounter him. Beck is lucky someone didn't drop a suitcase on his head "accidentally" from an overhead compartment or vomit on him. He's a weeping little cretin. Just my opinion, you understand.
Romney is a sniveling @!$%#-head and Ryan is a lying punk. They seem to think they can ride the Kock brothers checks all the way to the White House.
kim
You sound more unreasonable than he. He has some things very correct, and others very wrong. Then again, so has everyone else.
Lol Eric in Oregon:
You live in Eugene or Portland (two of the three bluest cities in the Northwest)? Also, If spider was receiving welfare, he would be in love with Obama for being PAID to do nothing living off the government, in one of those nice low-income houses (If you are from Eugene, they got some real nice ones).
After a long day at work I knew there would be some comic relief here... sure enough, Jimmy Spence is here as the opening act.
Thanks JimBo, I knew you wouldn't let me down. Your constant attempt to bash the liberals by spewing softball-sized fibs is just plain heart-warming.. keep it up buddy (although I'm guessing the conservatives here wish you would stop embarrassing them).
Us real Americans appreciate the effort.
Well Willard..let me be the first democrat to stand up and tell you...I'm better off today then back in 2006 that's for sure! As for our nation..all know who to blame..PARTY OF NO!!!
Mitt you were played. They said it tonight a bunch of times.
You just should keep quite as every time you try to spin something you get dizzy.
Monetary wealth isn't the only way to measure "better off", though Republicans always invoke this shallowest of metrics. We have gone from two major wars with no end in sight, to one war with the end almost in reach. I no longer have to worry so much about my brothers and sisters in service, so consider my status improved. Ask Service Members if they are better off.
Is this guy delusional? I heard that question asked and answered affirmatively at least 15 to 20 times last night.
I'm better off than four years ago, but what I worry about is, Am I better off now than I will be four years from now if Romney wins? I can't believe he will make things better for the mass of Americans.
Are you better off than 4 years ago???
Hell yes, Just the Fact That Bush is gone makes us better off.
Can't wait to hear what Romney has to say I need a good laugh this morning
Hey Mitten's, My family is better off than we were four years ago, hell I'll bet your family is better off than it was four years ago! You're a tool and President Obama will use you to disassemble the republican party.
I am an Independent low-middle class. I have voted both democrat and republican in the past. So I feel I have neutral outlook on the subject of whether myself and the nation is better off. However, in general, this nation truly is not better off than four years ago, and I think you all need to be honest with yourselves. Now, I am not for Mitt Romney, but Mr. Obama is changing this nation into a nation of socialism and unsustainability. 16 Trillion deficit and 47 million on food stamps! This has to stop!
This is particularly for Burning Brightly... I have friends and family members who had to go on food stamps after President Obama was elected because they no longer had a choice, because of the mess the previous administration caused. They held on as long as they could - all of them lost their jobs in Bush's second term, and were trying to go it alone. But ya gotta eat. So I am not surprised to hear that more people went on food stamps. As President Clinton pointed out, President Obama was handed an unprecedented mess. I am usually not much for politics ( I was brought up in an Independent household), but I am this year. Four more years!!
Uh, Torpedo? As a business owner and employer you DO understand the difference between Federal Withholding Tax and Payroll Tax Withholding? What your employees got, was hosed. The reduction in Payroll Tax Withholding only resulted in a minor increase in take home pay today, at the costs of a great reduction in the size of future Social Security payments, along with the acceleration of the coming bankruptcy of the program. The Payroll Tax is the sole funding mechanism for Social Security, it's not funded (yet) through general tax revenue.
I don't know how you see it, but for myself, taking future dollars out of my pocket to give me relative pennies today doesn't seem like such a bargain.
Wow, here we have all those Liberal talking point mavens who are trying to make up for what the Democrats can't say at the convention since those talking points are lies and misrepresentation. At least take a hint from your Masters and stop wasting our time.
1. Romney is under no obligation to show those tax returns, let alone, I'm sure poster #1 would not even be able to sift through the information due to the complexity of the returns. Certainly isn't the 1040EZ you would complete.
2. Most average Americans are worse off than they were 10 years ago, all the polls are in agreement about that one. So bringing forth one of the few lucky ones isn't going to change our minds.
3. Recently the Democrats started this "the Republicans want to take us back to Bush policy" on the TV talk shows,and all you drones are eagerly repeating it ad nausem. Problem is, the Republicans didn't say that.
4. To the 700,000 jobs lost a month crowd..... that started as soon as Obama was elected. (Nov 2008) It is Obama's fault. Why you ask? Because business knew it was time to batten down the hatches to protect themselves since America just elected an anti-business President. As soon as things were leaned down, it stopped. This Administration has done nothing to help business in the last 4 years. And no, paying off the Unions for their support of the President is not pro-business. Unions do not create jobs, businesses do. Businesses are waiting for the outcome of the elections to determine their next step. The best we could hope for if Obama is re-elected is 4 more years of what we have right now. If Obama gets his way if there is a shift in Congress, unemployment will increase, not decrease. And overall, the economic health of the country will decrease for sure.
All of you on this thread needs to watch "2016." It explains what is going on. And, as you notice, it has not been raked over the coals by the Media. Why? Because if they did, they would be raking Obama over the coals. 2016 is based on Obama's books. Time for everyone to open their minds and LEARN.
Romney/Ryan 2012 - the only hope for the American Constitution and the American way of life this election.
what was he listening to? They DID say we are better off that we were 4 years ago. Now I'm not sure that we are, but they did say we were. Open your ears Mitt.
kimH-1330542
YES ABSOLUTELY 147,000 American soldiers home from Iraq consider themselves better off
"That news: The national debt tripping $16 trillion dollars for the first time, and the number of Americans receiving food stamps topping 47 million, up 15 million from when President Obama took office,"
Has anyone noticed that Obama has gone from a 1%+ lead in the Realclearpolitics average of polls pre-convention to a TIE since the start of the Democratic Convention.
I guess you might call that a 'Negative Bounce'.
Al in Visalia CA "So where are your tax returns Willard?"
Still stuck on that Democratic talking point? He already released several years of tax returns - what are you hoping to find - that he is successful at business? I thought we already knew that.
How about addressing something important - like the $16 Trillion in Debt and the lack of jobs - we have more than 1 million fewer people working now than when Obama took office, according to the official government Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Romney the Rodent is on the ropes.
Give it up you fargen putz you are old news
UH each a party always gets a bump after their convention, Mittens had his, Now Obama will get his...and I expect his will be a little higher. Simply put the Democrats convention will have a much higher viewership (as it is after labor day when people are back and not the week before which is one of the lowest viewership weeks of the year)
The DNC as of now is getting much more positive coverage, possibly because they have not been thrown off message by lies about marathons etc. And probably because they have a positive message.
And Birthers...give it a break, the more you rant like that, the sillier you you are exposed as being. Is Mittens required to show his tax returns legally? No. But ethically morally and in every other way he is. Because we the people say it is. If he has nothing to hide, then why is he not just releasing them?
Frankly True "The DNC as of now is getting much more positive coverage"
That was to be expected, since 90% of the media reporters are Liberal Democrats, but how do you explain that Obama has gone from a 1% lead in the Realclearpolitics average of polls before the Democratic Convention to a Tie today? It seems that Obama's 'bounce' is going backwards.
By the way - the Realclearpolirics average had a Democratic bias of 1.2% in 2004 and 2008, so a Tie probably means that Romney is ahead by at least 1% - especially since the RCP poll includes 'Registered Voters', which typically overstate the Democrat by about 4%.
Interestingly, one of the Democratic pollsters shows that the spread between Registered and Likely voters is a whopping 7% - against Obama. If that's true, then Obama is in REALLY serious trouble.
So um, the republicans want to give the military an additional 2trillion dollar defense raise in addition to what they already get instead of giving the much needed cuts. Now I just know this has nothing to do with their intentions of a preemptive strike and occupation of Iran if they get the November win as well as a republican majority in all three houses again.
They said if we let them attack Iraq it would be over in a few weeks and only cost tax payers a few billion dollars and it had to be done because Iraq was such a huge threat to the United States that if we didn't attack first that Iraq would wipe out the United States because the republicans were so scared of Hussein that they actually believed in their feeble minds that Iraq actually had the potential to beat the United States. They believed it to the point it actually had republicans buying up weapons and food for their home made bunkers all around the nation.
Now it's Iran they are deathly afraid might come wipe us out and they have asked for 2 trillion dollars to add to the deficit to help make them feel safer. If the billions turned into trillions and the weeks turned into a decade, just imagine what these cowards would do if we gave them the money and means to do what they say they want to do and attack Iran now. Wouldn't it just be a hell of a lot cheaper just to incarcerate these republicans that spout this nonsense into nuthouses and put them all on prozac and thorazine to help them get over their paranoias?
The twitt named Mitt must have watched a different Convention,everybody in the hall said they were better off.. Whats his problem anyway he got a 1% poll jump from his convention .Even if it was the lowest in history
If even a single job had never been created we'd still be better off as at least we are not losing 750k a month like the republicans seem to forget happened under their watch. I know, I know, that was because of the democrats even though every bill the democrats actually got on the table in the republican led house was either turned down or vetoed by President Bush from 2006-2008. The only ones passed that would actually help americans were the ones President Bush told them prior to the votes that he would veto them if they made it to his desk and he kept his promise to the republicans.
Why would anyone want to see Romney's or anyone elses' tax returns. That is a fake issue created by the same people who can't come up with any reason for supporting Obama. If you think tax returns are important why don't you crisize Obama for hiding the documents that tie him to the sale of guns to known criminals?
@ uaw - considering Obama % went DOWN last night, I don't think Romney has anything to worry about.....what was you saying about that "bump?"
JIM SPENCE,
THE BUDGET you asked about is sitting on Speaker Boehner's desk, waiting for a reply along with the jobs bill that hasn't been brought up for a vote yet.
How many times can we take a pointless vote to abolish Obamacare? GET BACK TO WORK, you oranged faced drunk!
Mike-424215 "every bill the democrats actually got on the table in the republican led house was either turned down or vetoed by President Bush from 2006-2008."
You need to check your history. The Democrats won both the House and the Senate in the 2006 mid-term elections, so they controlled both houses of Congress for Bush's last 2 years and Obama's first 2 years - the 4 years when everything has gone to pot.
uaw-779887 "Whats his (Romney) problem anyway he got a 1% poll jump from his convention .Even if it was the lowest in history"
Actually, Rasmussen is one of only a few that does daily tracking, and he showed Romney going from -2% before the Republican Convention to +3% afterwards - a 'bounce' of 5%.
In contrast, Realclearpolitics average for Obama has gone from +1% before the Democratic Convention to a tie now - a LOSS of 1% so far. By the way - Realclearpolitics had a Democratic bias averaging 1.2% in favor of the Democrat in 2004 and 2008, so a 'tie' probably means a lead for Romney at this time.
No Roy. You need to do your own fact checking. Like I said, the republicans owned the house. Nothing hits their table without them saying so period. The republicans never let a single democratic bill hit their table unless their boss, President Bush said it was okay to do so as he fully intended to veto it. And he did. Every single veto your president signed was made during the very same period you claim the democrats caused the nations destruction in. For those two years of the democrats tremendous majority lead, they lost that lead to the five democrats that voted entirely with their republican counterparts. The only time those five voted with the democrats were when the republicans forced the democrats to take out the public options of the aca bill and replace it with the republicans private pay option which included fines and penalties. The republicans promised the democrats that they would sign the bill if this change was made in the bill. In the 80s we called it bait and switch. Something the republicans personified. After the changes were made per the republican orders, the republicans told their five implants to vote with the democrats to make it a unanymous vote and the republicans renegged on their deal,"the bait and switch", and then pointed at the democrats after the vote and said, "Oh My God, look what those communists did".
That is the only time those five democrats voted with their party so no, the democrats never did have a majority vote and every bill has been obstructed by and voted against by the republicans unless something was changed to give the top 1% more cuts and or advantages over the little people including yourself.
@willowbrook,hahahahahahaha no you will see, in November the mental midget's in your party will be on unemployment. Mostly in the House. I guess now you will explain how your wonderfull Congress is doing such a great job. hahahahahahha see you at the polls Putz
To everyone saying they are better off............please explain how you are better off.
Also, just for fun please tell me why the country is more divided now than it ever has been?
At least Romney had some nice things to say about the vacation happy First Lady. Unlike what the dems say about Romneys wife.
And last to Republicans for Barry......I seriously fell off my chair laughing at this statement you made: or Obama the Geat and Kind and Merciful. Hilarious.
Roy Wilson,
Stop giving out facts about how the dems controlled our country from 2006 - 2010. It messes up the lefts lies and attacks on how the country going to sh-t is the fault of the republicans.
Since all indications are that the Republicans will still control the House after the elections, and perhaps the Senate as well, it might make sense for Romney to be elected and to give the Republicans a chance to 'put up or shut up' over the next 4 years. If they fail, then Hillary Clinton should have her chance.
Having Obama as President with a Republican Congress will just lead to four more years of gridlock.
Mike-424215 "No Roy. You need to do your own fact checking. Like I said, the republicans owned the house."
So you're saying that the Republicans controlled the House of Representatives for Bush's last 2 years?
Wikipedia disagrees, as does every other reputable source - my fact checking is fine, but yours is questionable;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/110th_United_States_Congress
Truth hurts doesn't it uaw? You've drank so much koolaid, I bet you are a pretty shade of purple. (Unless you are a fruit punch flavor person, then cherry red would be descriptive.)
Guess you can't read the polls either....so sorry for you.
Let's be realistic about taxes and spending. We need to get more tax revenues AND cut spending.
With Obama, we will get neither, but if Romney wins, he'll realize that we need to have more revenues, mostly from the 'rich' who can best afford them, and he'll be able to cut the fat out of the spending budget.
Actually, the Simpson-Bowles Debt Commission indicated that we could get more tax revenues AND cut the tax rates by eliminating all of the special interest credits that the wealthy use to avoid taxes.
If we elect Romney and a Republican Congress, we can hold them fully accountable, and if they can't do the job, we should give Hillary Clinton a chance in 2016.
If we reelect Obama, we'll just have 4 more years of gridlock.
I stand corrected Roy. So you are right. The democrats destroyed this nation solely. Had they not started and committed the United States to two wars and deregulated the oil industry. We would not be in this mess today. We were so much better off before the democrats that it makes me wonder how, after committing this nation to two wars and driving gas oil from 14$ a barrel to more than 124$ a barrel at one point, that we could ever have let the democrats take control while the republicans were doing such a great job at creating jobs and bringing peace to the nation.
The one thing that has bothered me most though was in seeing George Bush's surprised look while reading that upside book to school children when he first learned of 9/11 attacks. I know it was only coincidental to also find out that while he held that surprised look, he also already had the Bin Laden family and friends being flown from Texas back to their safe havens days before the nation was about to find out that their family member, Bin Laden, had ordered the attack on the twin towers. The only flight allowed over american skies were given by Bush and the military to the Bin Ladens days before we supposedly knew it was their own family member that committed atrocities here.
Here are the average Debt figures by President over the last 43 years (1969-2012);
Nixon/Ford = $455 Billion.
Carter = $805 Billion, an increase of $350 Billion.
Reagan = $1,744 Billion, an increase of $939 Billion.
Bush 1 = $3,419 Billion, an increase of $1,675 Billion.
Clinton = $5,147 Billion, an increase of $1,728 Billion.
Bush 2 = $7,672 Billion, an increase of $2,525 Billion.
Obama = $14,135 Billion, an increase of $6,463 Billion.
Source - Obama White House Historical figures from the 2013 Budget proposal.
Make of them what you wish, but these are the actual figures.
And you better keep practicing Mittens! You've been campaigning for what ... six years and still haven't figured out how to do that without lying constantly! The debates are going to show exactly what you have to offer this country. NOTHING!
Obama/Biden - 2012
I wonder how badly he's losing even in "mock" debates....
Hey, Mitt, why should you care?
You are better off...outsourcing all those American jobs to make obscene profits.
Lol you must be crazy Layton. Paul Ryan will wipe the floor with Biden ALL DAY LONG. And Obama can't talk without his TelePrompter... The debates will be interesting.
Romney may have outsourced a few jos. Obama has out sourced a nation.
Look at the debt clock. Facts are just that libbies. You lose
The whole debt started with Reagan and the GOP illusion that cutting taxes will be the miracle drug - less personal responsibility on tax payers, with more debt to pay the discretional soending such as defense.
Bush made it worse with more tax cuts but more wars, plus prescription drug benefits, making government bigger and entitlements more unwieldy.
at least Democrats want to TAX and spend tax revenue at hand to pay for services. Remember GOP refused to work with the Democrats to raise taxes.
Republicans want to borrow more, cut more taxes, thus higher debt. To be honest, the GOP should at least raise taxes to pay for Bush's entitlement increase - senior prescription drug benefits which have helped increasing the debt a lot, with his tax cut effective for the last 12 years, even less revenue leading to even higher debt.
I don't know why GOPers can blame this on Obama who is suffering from GOP's bad habits.
I started out likeing Mr. Romney but as time has gone by I now realize that he is STUPID where common sense is required.
I don't see how he or any other Republican could say they were not better off now than four years ago.
I know every Democrat in this country is better off now than in 2008.
What is he thinking?
Talk about Lying, Obama brings the best known liar in the universe to speak at his convention in Bill Clinton. It has been proven over and over again that Clinton has a hard time telling the truth about anything. Remember why Clinton was impeached? For lying to Congress amongst other things. Obama has almost as tough a time at telling the truth as Clinton. Obama can't even tell you why he has broken so many promises. Obama is best represented as the "empty chair".
Dear Mitt,
You can't fix being a fool, and an insincere flip-flopper, so why practice?
I can't wait for you to change positions in the middle of the debate.
Barry has outsourced more jobs in a week than Romney has in his entire career. What is with you libs and your hate for the private sector?
Yeah, I see that debt clock 11 trillion in Bush debt and 5 trillion in Obama Debt trying to fix it.
G,od d,amn Republicans just throw the money out the door and didn't even get the oil
Sorry uaw but it is a fact that Barry has added more debt to our country than any other president in history. I know facts are hard for you little union punks to figure out but you can do the research yourself.
Layton-3733410 "for a series of mock debates"
Obama has selected John Kerry to play the role of Romney in his own 'mock debates', so what's your point?
That is patently false and you darn well know it or you are the dumbest person on the planet. Yes Bush left office but the funny thing is he left all the debt he ran up with 2 unfunded wars, 2 unpaid for tax cuts and a unpaid for prescription drug program.
ooooooooooooh a tough guy you AND the irish gays look like murderers don't you green slime. Prove your facts BOY. The Republicans alredy said Obama added 5 trillion thats 11 trillion for Bush, little boy. Does your MOM know you have her computer
Under a Romney Administration, that would read 15 million more Americans starving.
Oh come on no one is going to let anyone starve. If you get the illegals off food stamps this number would drop by half. No one is going to take away your food stamps.
Hi Burning. If 47 million receive FS, then your number is 20 mil plus. There are not even 20 million+ illegal immigrants in the U.S., a typical, but false claim. Besides, most social programs bar illegals from getting assistance if they don't have proper immigration docs. There might be 4 million or so U.S. born kids receiving benefits, however.
Want to bet? Food stamps and unemployment are big targets of the gop!
How about our government stops letting illegals collect SS checks, food stamps, free health care, free education, free housing, etc.? The numbers would drop big time. But that wouldnt be PC.
Irish,
Do you practice this stupid act or does it come naturally? Maybe you would like to explain how an illigal can collect social security. I get a statement from social security that details my earnings clear back to 1972 when I started working. Without a social security number and the work history to back up eligibility in the number of quarters worked you don't collect anything.
Becarefull what you say to Irish he's a minor, no adult can be that stupid and be over 18
Here's a quick economic lesson for those who tend to only know a hand to mouth existence and not much ability beyond a linear thought process:
Destroying an economy is not instantaneous, nor is redistribution of the wealth. That began in force during George W.'s tenure. He bankrupted our nation, turning a 6 trillion dollar surplus into a 12 trillion dollar deficit and the collapse of the middle class and the vast wealth gains by the upper 1%. Businesses and markets take a while to collapse so you aren't seeing the effect until Obama comes in to clean up the mess. Rebuilding a destroyed infrastructure is not an easy task and takes some time. Blaming Obama for a mess created by the administration before is ignorance at best. Also, the two BIGGEST drains on the economy aren't your neighbor on relief or even your other neighbor making a living wage because he belongs to a union, it's the multi-trillion dollar wars and multi-trillion dollar handouts to criminal bankster/gangsters on Wall Street.
Got it? I know it's a little hard to understand but believe me, if you get a little education outside of sound bites you hear on Fox "news" or some hate filled talk radio nutcase you'll frankly be a lot happier and enlightened.
Have a nice day and don't make any rash decisions that can hurt others.
Gabrielle Giffords is courage, Rush Limbaugh is not. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Rather obvious that he didn't listen to/watch any of the speeches. They were all about the things that the President has done to make this a better country for all. We aren't bleeding jobs like a broken spigot and have had modest job gains. Personal recovery is going to come later, once the economy is kicked into gear by stabilizing the middle class, the engine of a strong economy.
The DNC should get that venture capitalist (i forget his name) who was speaking about how the economy is a middle class driven ecosystem to speak at the convention...
When all you have is lies, information, truthful information just gets in the way. Romney will hopefully be indicted before the election along with the other criminals at Bain.
Why would you want to see Romney indicted? Heck, Pelosi, Waters, Frank, Rangel, Dodd, McCaskill all stole from the taxpayers and none of them were indicted. What a loser Jack F is!
Joe, you had best stop with the libelous statements, and attempting misdirection is typically a sign of guilt. Does this mean you feel that Romney is guilty of these accusations?
It seems the best you can do is spout birther nonsense, along with the disproven dreck about Barry Soetoro. It kind of looks like all you can do to defend your candidate is use lies in a weak attempt to take the focus off of him. Give it a rest.
Romney: ‘I’m Running For Office for Pete’s Sake, I Can’t Have Illegals’
By Eric Scheiner
October 19, 2011
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(CNSNews.com)- During last night’s Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas, Nev., former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney admitted that a lawn company he had used hired illegal immigrants and that when he found out he told the company it could not have illegal aliens working on his property because he was running for office.
JackF - I was just thinking how funny that would be! Who would they run on short notice? Gingrich? Santorum? Paul? What a joke and it could actually happen!!!
Joe Thomas - what a joke you are!!!
Obama/Biden 2012
Do any of you uniteeligent lemmings, I mean Liberals, do any fact checking of the speeches made at the DNC convention? If you did, you would find, that just like anything Bill Clinton says, they are made up of mostly lies and without any relationship to facts. You are so amusing in that you accept the statements of proven liars as truth and then act. Are you incapable of checking facts or even forming your own opinion?
Learn to type and contruct an intelligent sentence Gene Miller. We all know that this comes from all of you racists. No one in their right mind would vote for someone that pays less taxes than their secretaries. No one would vote for someone that outsources jobs and ships off their money to the Cayman islands. No one would vote for someone that deducts their show horse from their tax returns. Those are just some of the simple things why honest, hardworking Americans wouldn't vote for a cult member. So what other reason do the repucks have to vote for robme? RACISIM !!!! There, I've said it and there is no doubt in my mind that it is what drives this force.
Dump the racism crap, it is an old story that you guys have beat to death. Does not fly anymore. If anyone dare have a negative opinion about obama then they must be racist. Ever think that maybe some don't like obama because he is an egotistical - narcissist who lacks the leadership skills to lead the nation. You throw racism out because you have nothing left to argue with.
Mr. Romney - 2 of my sons lost their jobs in 2009, both due to the tanking economy inherited from the previous administration. Both now have jobs; 1 in his old field and the other changed fields. YES, they ARE better off - both are making more than they were!
So they both work for the gubmint, right?
Joe, seriously? Can't you do any better than that? Nah, I guess not.
Left Wing he is just one of those silly right wingers who cannot speak intelligently and must resort to playground tactics.
They type Gubmint, Kool Aid, use Obamas middle name as a way of attempting to make him un-American. They are not to be paid any attention. There are plenty of more sane Republicans you can debate so no need to waste time on the silly children.
Frankly True - seriously? I could fill pages with the childish remarks from the obama followers from just the vine alone this morning. The childish playground remarks are on both sides. Don't take it personal, I am not attacking you. Both sides tend to act like children on a playground.
"Here in the mountains, with limited cell phone and Internet service, Romney said he did not watch Michelle Obama's address to the Democratic convention in Charlotte last night"
There's no tv in Vermont? Who knew?
"You've heard no one stand up and say that people are better off than they were four years ago,"
Fine. I'm standing up (hard to type from this position!) and listen closely, this is just for you:
I'M BETTER OFF THAN I WAS FOUR YEARS AGO!!!!!!!
("Can you hear me now?")
Did your food stamps double? LMAO
Its really amazing how many STUPID people there are in the US. Your better off with a dictator oe socialists??? By the way idiot, hows the UK doing these days???? Great with all those soiclized programs, Oh thats right, there all bankrupt and taxes at at 60% gas at 8.00 a gallon. Not on my back you moron unionzed piece of garbage. Not on my watch. If Obama was the answer, it must have been a stupid question.
I am better off too. Only Republicans seems worse off...hhhhmmmmmm. Thought with all the tax breaks 500 billion gone from our deficit it would be worse
I retired 2 years ago when I turned 50. Not all libs are stupid, A union job helped.
No, the Union job didn't pay for it, WE THE PEOPLE PAID FOR IT!
Caliperson...I try to ignore the unintelligent comments made by stupid people that when adding 1+1= answer 3. But YOU take the cake. Have you read the nonsense you've written. I would be ashamed of myself when reading that drivel, but then again you wouldn't recognize it as such, because you wrote it. You are lucky that you can hide behind annonimity, otherwise your life may be in danger. YOU are an embarassment for this country.
We get the Redneck white trash off welfare and working we might be able to talk here. Republicans are poor because they are lazy and to damn dumb to get a education
Dow up 7000 points.
Does Romney think he's the only person that owns stocks?
Most portfolios, 401ks and IRAs have doubled there Mitt.
$140,000.00 per taxpaying citizen!
Most of America (unlike so many on these posts) have woken up to the fact we have borrowed out our children's and grand-children's futures. You as a party are selfish to your core, yet stand so piously believing you hold some strange fictional moral height. Even Bill Clinton (who I like) won't be able to dress up your clown King. The hoards of liberals/unionistas/socialists and other non-contents will be an interesting site when President Ronmey takes control of the reins of power. Not a moment too soon!!!!
Let the lambs continue merrily to the slaughter.
Every year, 1/2 trillion dollars is added to the debt just to support the Reagan, Bush, Bush Tax cuts. Romney and his lovely wife can extol the virtues of increasing the burden on the middle class to finance their lifestyle. Clinton paid off the debt due to All of the first 39 president's, that is 2 world wars, the Manhattan project, the space race all paid for, and he left a surplus to boot. The only remainder of the debt when Obama took office was due to Reagan,Bush and Bush unfunded giveaways to the rich, to pension looters and to people who misappropriate taxpayer money, to people who sell bad debt and then say tough.
Most of America (unlike so many on these posts) have woken up to the fact we have borrowed out our children's and grand-children's futures.
Did that bother you when Bush and his Republican Congress was turning the largest surplus of all times into the biggest deficit of all times? And remember this BillJ --- the boomer generation paid off the debt from WWI, the interstate highway program, the space program, all the schools and hospitals built in the 50s and 60s. My parents generation left my generation the bills for all that. We paid them off. It took from 1945 to 1998 to do it but we did. In terms of the percentage of GDP, the debt is smaller today that it was in 1945. So get off your phony morality. One generation always pays off the debt of the last generation. It's been that way since the founding of this nation.
Why don't you ask ALL the folks that spoke at last week's RNC convention why there was absolutely NO mention of our military men and women still fighting it out in Afghanistan? Not even a salute to them! Not ONE word out of the mouth of Romney or Ryan! We do hold the moral high ground. The same cannot be said for the Republican Party and all that stand with that party.
The DOW is up because 6000 is way undervalued, but also up because of the continual flow of 401K money. The GDP is really up because of inflation, not because we are significantly producing more wealth.
Charlie
Your bold type makes the argument to stop spending obsolete. You are a true Democrat.
BillJ318 I use bold type so I can easily scroll down, spot my messages and then follow any comments by conservatives. And -- I see you didn't offer any real evidence to counter what I said about spending, you just make a childish statement. Typical Republican.
JackF from Setauket no not every year does the debt go up by 1/2 trillion dollars because of the tax breaks. That only happens on the first year they go into effect. You can only count a loss once in economics. Also were not better off our dollar is weaker and the cost of food and other products have gone up. Also most of the housing crisis was because of the Fair housing act that was passed by Democrats. The democrats under Barney Frank asked the banks why they weren't giving out loans to more minorities which was because they didn't make enough nor did they qualify for the loan. Congress then said give out the loans or we'll find you in breach of the Fair housing act so the banks did so and we got into this great housing crisis. Also people spending money on items they can't afford because they can simply just take out a loan against their house. You can only blame the president for so much since the president really doesn't have much power when you look at it. Most of the power sets with congress not the president.
dakhous Bush asked why banks were not giving loans to those with lower income and who were not as qualified. He called it the path to Home Ownership...he pushed for it in three consecutive State of the Union Addresses. Why do you leave that out?
Republican posts are pointless. We have been here before in our history we will be here again. The key is electing people who can do the job. Republicans have failed time and again they just don't get it
And no Republican said... well anything truthful.
Democrats have been saying we are better off because we are, yet Mitt just denies we ever said it. 4 Years ago John McCain "suspended" his campaign to fly to DC to head off a financial crisis. GW Bush took to the airwaves to reassure jittery Americans, Washington Mutual joined the list of dozens of large banks that failed, Americans were losing 7-800,000 jobs a month, the credit markets seized to the point the banks weren't lending to each other, let alone anyone else, the stock market tumbled to 6,500.... It is PURE INSANITY to pretend we aren't better off now than a few years ago. The GOP is basically hoping Americans are morons.
Jim-How can we be better off? Unemployment has been above 8% for 42 straight months, GDP is anemic, manufacturing jobs are going overseas, we are now $16 trillion in debt and the Federal government hasn't passed a freaking budget in over 3 years. They are spending a trillion more than they take in every year and they are focused on everything but getting this economy running again. I seriously can't believe you wrote what you did, are you an idiot?
lukewarm would you vote for a man who sent thousands and thousands of US Jobs overseas (and I mean personally directly did that)?
Mittens did EXACTLY That.
You liberals won't be laughing when your taxes go up. In case you haven't noticed, the National Debt just passed $16 trillion and it's going to be up to every American to help pay that off. So get ready to pry open your wallets and pay the piper but look at the bright side, you'll have "free condoms" and a government controlled health care system to be thanful for. Our costs aren't going down, they are going up and if you think that's progress then you need your head examined.
Sure we will. Some of us actually think about more than ourselves.
Besides, I thought you guys swore up and down how much we loooove our taxes!
Stephen-I paid over 90,000 in taxes last year, how much did you pay? Don't even attempt to lecture me about doing my fair share, dope!
You liberals won't be laughing when your taxes go up
Well guess what --- NOTHING is free. Yes -- we have to pay for the two wars Bush put on the credit card, the tow tax cuts he put on the credit card, the prescription drug bill he put on the credit card, the massive farm bill he put on the credit card along with the largest expansion of government since LBJ that he put on the credit card. Unlike conservatives --- liberals know nothing is free.
Hey, lukewarm, maybe you should talk to Romney and see if he can't help you lessen your taxes. He seems to be very very good at paying extremely little compared to his income. Romney would love to get elected because then he could get Lyin' Ryan's little budget put through and guess who would be the biggest winner of all? Yes, Mitt Romney would only pay about 2% based on the Lyin' Ryan budget plan. Is that fair to you, lukewarm? Are you really okay with that, because I am not and neither are millions of others! Why do you think that people like the Koch Brothers and that creep Adelson are putting out so much money to the Romney campaign? Do you really think they like Romney? NO! They want one of their own in there that they bought and paid for so that they can really phuck with the tax codes. Romney says he wants tax code reforms? Yeah, I'll just bet he does.
lukewarm--did I claim you didn't pay your share? However I'd still be willing to bet if you were in a position to pay $90,000 in income taxes, you probably have a lot more income above and beyond what you need to survive, unlike the millions who make half your taxes in income and are fortunate if they have any income beyond what they need to feed, house, and clothe their families. And I'm guessing these are the people you think don't pay enough?
But regardless, please stop putting words in my mouth, as I never suggested for a second anything at all about your taxes. You said I wouldn't be laughing when I had to pay more taxes, and I said sure I would because I'd rather pay a little more to keep the many services we need, use, provide, and ought to provide to keep our citizens alive and functional members of society. Some seem less interested in society. I think there's a word for that....
The debt??? WE ARE AT WAR TOOL
Stephen, what gives you the right to say how much a person should earn? How about the salaries of the Teacher's Union bosses? Is $500,000 a piece fair share for shaking us up?
lukewarm
I WIN!
I paid $127,000 in Federal Taxes alone last year
I beat you! And I don't bitch about it
Now can you stop they I make more/have more games?
Mitko--I'm afraid you have gone down the same imaginary rabbit hole as lukewarm. You've jumped right in with him in telling me what I said, against all objective evidence to the contrary. There's not a single shred of truth to the claim that I've ever suggested how much anybody should earn. Please stop making up lies about what I said in order to vent your pointless rage at the middle class.
Alaska girl and Charlie, you've said it all....except why these die hard repucks are hell bend on robme becoming president. They can not stand the thought of a black man being in the White House. Nothing more nothing less. I am sure that just like me, they have not been able to make one decent argument for their candidate. However, they manage to call the POTUS every name in the book. Actually, this blog has been harmles agianst what I've read. I have never in my 63 years heard so much disrespect for a sitting President as right now. Yes, of course there are people worse off, they have been since they had to endure the consequences of the Bush years. No President could have brought the changes about in four years that these repucks think they could have expected. All lame excuses. The Berlin wall came down in 1989, and despite of assessing an additional 5% in taxes to rebuild the east, it still hasn't happened. How long did it take Germany to rebiult after WWII? How long.....how long...., etc. Why are people so blinded by their hate/ Either these folks are to stupid to know better or....they are RACISTS....there just is no other excuse.
NO!!!! Mr. President, we are not better off as a nation!!!! Time to go. Where? I don't really care, just go.
FOOD STAMPS
Obama – 46.2 million : Before – 28.2 million
CREDIT RATING
BEFORE AAA - Obama AA+
GAS PRICES
BEFORE - $1.65 a gallon (End of term) : Obama - $3.80 a gallon (Current)
(Source: )
UNEMPLOYMENT
Bush - 4.71% (Average) : Obama - 9.5% (Average) – 8.3% Current
( Source: www.bls.gov )
NATIONAL DEBT
Bush – Increased 4 trillion (8 Years) : Obama – Will increase 18 trillion (8 years, according to OBAMAS budget)
(Source: www.treasurydirect.gov )
DEFICIT
Bush - $0.5 Trillion per year : Obama - $1.8 Trillion per year
(Source: www.federalbudget.com)
JOBS
Bush – GAINED 3 million jobs over 8 years : Obama - LOST 6 MILLION JOBS IN 3 YEARS
INFLATION:
Bush +0.1% (End of Term) : Obama +3.8% (Current)
(Source: www.usinflationcalculator.com )
Yes, we are.
It is utterly amazing that so many liberals are so brain washed or just plain dishonest to claim "we are better off today than we were 4 years ago". It's amazing but also a shame that so many Americans are falling for the liberal lie. We are going to have to pay this money back, we are going to see food costs, gasoline, electricity, natural gas, heating oil and every other cost go UP, not down. I also can't believe these morons are still blaming Bush when Pelosi and Reid took over Congress in 2007, well before our country went over the cliff. Amazing and sad at the same time!
Good post Bill. Do you mind if I use your credible sources?
Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama?
It’s enough to make even the most ardent Obama cynic scratch his head in confusion.
Amidst all the cries of Barack Obama being the most prolific big government spender the nation has ever suffered, Marketwatch is reporting that our president has actually been tighter with a buck than any United States president since Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Who knew?
Check out the chart –
So, how have the Republicans managed to persuade Americans to buy into the whole “Obama as big spender” narrative?
It might have something to do with the first year of the Obama presidency where the federal budget increased a whopping 17.9% —going from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. I’ll bet you think that this is the result of the Obama sponsored stimulus plan that is so frequently vilified by the conservatives…but you would be wrong.
The first year of any incoming president term is saddled—for better or for worse—with the budget set by the president whom immediately precedes the new occupant of the White House. Indeed, not only was the 2009 budget the property of George W. Bush—and passed by the 2008 Congress—it was in effect four months before Barack Obama took the oath of office.
Accordingly, the first budget that can be blamed on our current president began in 2010 with the budgets running through and including including fiscal year 2013 standing as charges on the Obama account, even if a President Willard M. Romney takes over the office on January 20, 2013.
So, how do the actual Obama annual budgets look?
Courtesy of Marketwatch-
No doubt, many will wish to give the credit to the efforts of the GOP controlled House of Representatives. That’s fine if that’s what works for you.
However, you don’t get to have it both ways. Credit whom you will, but if you are truly interested in a fair analysis of the Obama years to date—at least when it comes to spending—you’re going to have to acknowledge that under the Obama watch, even President Reagan would have to give our current president a thumbs up when it comes to his record for stretching a dollar.
Of course, the Heritage Foundation is having none of it, attempting to counter the actual numbers by pretending that the spending initiated by the Bush Administration is the fault of Obama. As I understand the argument Heritage is putting forth —and I have provided the link to the Heritage rebuttal so you can decide for yourself—Marketwatch, in using the baseline that Obama inherited, is making it too easy on the President.
But then, with the Heritage Foundation being the creator of the individual mandate concept in healthcare only to rebut the same when it was no longer politically convenient, I’m not quite sure why anyone believes much of anything they have to say any longer. With their history of reversing course for convenience, I can’t help but wonder, should they find themselves reviewing the spending record of a President Romney four years from today, whether they might be tempted to use the Obama numbers as the baseline for such a new Administration.
..."well before our country went over the cliff..."
You mean well before the GOP stood up and said "we will do everything in our power to make sure President Obama's administration is a failure", worked feverishly to do so, while ignoring everything they claimed as reasons for people to vote for them ("it's about jobs, stupid!") just so they could harm the nation's credit rating for the first time in history by unilaterally refusing to work to keep our debts being paid as legally required, and now as they stand up and shake their heads at how much the president didn't accomplish (while casually neglecting to point out anything he did accomplish was against everything they could pull out to stop him)? Is that when you're talking about? Yeah damn those Democrats.
Funny how Republicans fail to see WE ARE AT WAR IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. Guess we should fight with bows and arrows
BillJ318 is cherry picking the information. It's a shame how the only weapon republicans have is lying and hate. Their record speaks volumes! btw - President Clinton was awesome last night! He destroyed vulture/voucher 1040.
O/Joe 2012 4 more years!
Actually, it would be that Charlie clown doing the cherry-picking. He's comparing Obama spending to Obama spending and trying to claim improvement. He got this GARBAGE from a left-wing wack-job named Bill Ungar in Forbes Magazine.
He's using, for his baseline, the left-wing BIG LIE method of claiming that the extra $317Billion in TARP spending and the $800Billion in spending from Obama's Stimulus Bill were Bush's fault just because they occurred in Fiscal Year 2009 AFTER Bush Left office.
Bush said that he would NOT spend the second HALF of the TARP money. Obama said that he WOULD even before he was inaugurated. And the Stimulus Bill didn't exist when Bush was in office.
Trying to say that Obama wasn't responsible for HIS TARP spending, HIS stimulus spending, HIS auto bailout spending, and the massive omnibus spending bill created by Obama and the Democratic Congress, again AFTER Bush left office, is INSANE!!
geez your a fuc,king moron none of your assertions are true
I thought the lady with the child with the heart condition laid it out very well last night on why 30 million Americans are better off now than 4 years ago - thanks to President Obama they have health-care.
I also applaud the President for personally tolerating the ACA being called 'Obamacare' by the GOP because as he put it - 'Yes, I do care!".
Stacy Lihn, JustSlapMe ... and that was a beautiful piece and one that I hope is used as an ad to show what Obamacare is!
Lambs to the slaughter. Interesting metaphor. One the Mormon church uses frequently. I dare anyone to REALLY look into what the LDS believes and teaches. Or you can just wait until you're dead so they can baptize by proxy into the Mormon church. Maybe in the debates someone can ask Mittens if he believes that Thomas S. Monson is God's mouthpiece on earth and if he believes he is the only prophet, seer and revelator and what he would do if Monson gave him an order "direct from God" via "revelation".
while I consider myself a recovering Catholic and hate injecting religion into this issues (I know that's impossible) I will respond with something borrowed from another poster-
"better a Mormon then a moron".
So we have to endure ENDLESS assertions that Obama is a radical America hating Muslim yet Mitten's belief in angels with golden plates and magic protective underwear is off limits? I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning!
I simply don't believe that which is why I stay away from discussing religion.
Excuse the easy plug-in, but is nothing sacred?
More as a side note and personal observation, I think that the spiritual "backgrounds" are the concerns both sides have. How has Obamas exposure to the Muslim faith (way back when) shaped who he is and how he thinks - how has the Mormon church (whatever they believe, I personally don't know) shaped Romneys thoughts.
Everyone of us has a history defining us today
Reporter interviewing Mittens:
Reporter: Boxers or Briefs?
Mittens: Uh Uh UH....
Dr.Soos....I have asked that question many times, but people do not want to listen. They are afraid to be considered prejudicial. Never mind that. If people would take the time and research the Moron church they would find out that ultimately the living phrophet, that gets elected, has the ultimate say so over all it's moron sheep. There is a very good reason the morons are so secretive. As a people they are very nice, but their believes are warped. Who wants a warped person in the White House that works only at making money for their church? I am scared. They also control their women and now they are determined to control the women in this country. When are people going to look and listen?
Doesn't it get just a little depressing to always be trying to spin every single thing as if life is just one constant negative. Nothing is good, all things are bad, and Obama is ruining the world. No progress, america will be damned if obama is re elected. How depressing to think like that. the GOP remind me of eyore in Winnie the Pooh...how they think, talk. anyone notice the difference in the 2 conventions? one was negative and brooding. So far, the Dems are full of excitement and hope and positive things. Do not reward those who deliberately have kept the economy down for political gain.
The DNC is a totally stark contrast to last week's almost morose convention. As I watched last night's first day I watched as the cameras panned over the arena. What I saw was America sitting in those seats. I saw every day people celebrating and coming together in unity. I saw America.
sherry, you do know that democrats do exactly the same thing and it starts with the guy at the top continually blaming someone else.
I suppose Romney is still groggy from his over-night cramming. HE is better off than 4 years ago. The Koch brothers are better off and so are many others. Heck I'm even better off.
That's not to say all people are or even a majority, but this issue is a silly one trumped up by the myth that Obama has hurt the economy. Just look at the trajectory most leading indicators were on as of January, 2009. Fact checkers want to know, Mitt, are you and your buddies better off?
NO, WE ARE NOT BETTER OFF! JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBERS!
FOOD STAMPS
Obama – 46.2 million : Before – 28.2 million
CREDIT RATING
BEFORE AAA - Obama AA+
GAS PRICES
BEFORE - $1.65 a gallon (End of term) : Obama - $3.80 a gallon (Current)
(Source: )
UNEMPLOYMENT
Bush - 4.71% (Average) : Obama - 9.5% (Average) – 8.3% Current
( Source: www.bls.gov )
NATIONAL DEBT
Bush – Increased 4 trillion (8 Years) : Obama – Will increase 18 trillion (8 years, according to OBAMAS budget)
(Source: www.treasurydirect.gov )
DEFICIT
Bush - $0.5 Trillion per year : Obama - $1.8 Trillion per year
(Source: www.federalbudget.com)
JOBS
Bush – GAINED 3 million jobs over 8 years : Obama - LOST 6 MILLION JOBS IN 3 YEARS
INFLATION:
Bush +0.1% (End of Term) : Obama +3.8% (Current)
(Source: www.usinflationcalculator.com )
Mitko, no obama supporter will ever accept any failure of obama at any cost for any reason. It is just as easy for them to keep blaming someone else. No president has continued blaming someone else so far into their term.
SIR NIKON,
The guy that's REALLY better off is the convicted criminal and frequent guest of the Obama White House, George Soros.
Unless you think it's just a coincidence that Soros visits the White House one day, then makes a HUGE investment in Brazil's Petrobras oil company, and, almost immediately, Obama gives a HUGE check to Petrobras and shuts down drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, making numerous drilling platforms available to Petrobras at discount prices.
Of course, that's just BAU for the Obama White House, making sure that the Obama Campaign Fund is filled with TAXPAYER MONEY after it has been laundered through the bank accounts of his political cronies.
@Mitko
Thank you for being an amplifier for the nicely debunked "Fox and Friends" anti-Obama video. Most of your points you did not look into or you would be embarrassed to quote them. Think, man, think.
Remember, the key word here is "debunked".
http://mediamatters.org/mobile/research/2012/05/30/debunking-fox-amp-friends-dishonest-anti-obama/184365
America was doing ok untill Boehner and his sheep showed up.Personally I am doing great for an 84 year old retiree.Since Bush is gone.
I am with you. I was so relieved when we got rid of Bush/Cheney, except that Obama had to clean up after them. Then those ultra-patriotic warmonger Republicans in Congress decided to keep Obama from winning again by trying every trick they could muster to "do nothing" and say "no". Republicans are not for helping the country, but helping their bottom lines. I will be better off when we get rid of the Tea Party and the obstructionist Republicans in Congress.
When Bush came into office, the federal debt was at 5 trillion dollars. He left office with the federal debt level at 10 trillion dollars. In 3 and a half years in office, Obama has added 6 trillion dollars to the debt. Yes, less tax revenue was being collected. However when faced with this scenario, logic dictates that spending should be cut in order to achieve a balanced budget. Yes, the economy is growing, but very slowly. What makes you think it would not have improved without stimulus spending. Social liberals seem to be under the impression that government spending is the sole driver of economic growth. This all stems from their misguided adherence to the economic philosophy of John Maynard Keynes. He believed it was the responsibility of government to spend heavily during poor economic periods and raise taxes during good economic times. The problem with their approach is: 1. It leads to large government debt and high inflation. 2. No one can predict the duration of economic periods (good or bad). 3. The theory expects governments to pay down debts during good economic times. Before you point to Clinton, let me remind you that he had Republican Congress that forced him to balance a budget. Also, the technology bubble (which popped in 2002) brought in extra revenue for the government to begin to pay down the debt. According to the 2011 Federal budget, non-discretionary spending (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid) accounted for close to 60 percent of the total budget. That percentage is only set to go higher in the future.
You're absolutely right. Hey I've got a great idea. Let's start another war or two. That'll kick up some money for the middle class. And we can use their kids (not Mitt's!) as canon fodder. That should get things back into gear. Watch out Iran. Mittens will be standing in front of a big banner on the deck on an aircraft carrier (or at least one of his yachts) in the Strait of Hormuz soon after he's elected.
Yes, and where there's Iran there is Russia not far behind. Romney put Russia on notice. Yeah, thanks IDIOT!
@Dr. Soos: FDR took us into WWII. Truman took us into the Korean War. JFK escalated the Vietnam Conflict and was responsible for the 'Bay of Pigs'. It was Nixon that finally pulled us out of Vietnam. So how much did WWII, Korea, and Vietnam cost the tax payer?
Borrowed....you obviously didnt pay attention in history class...we were drawn aginst our will into most of the wars you cited...we did not start them, unlike Iraq and Afghanastan which were "created" by the lies of the Bush admin as a way to syphon $$ from the economy and funnel it into their personal accounts. (i.e. Haliburton, Carlysle). According to MR, Iran and Russia have been put on notice...do you HONESTLY believe they will be the sitting duck Iraq was ?
Ohio 48....go tell'em? They even try to distort history. How deperate.
When Bush came into office, the federal debt was at 5 trillion dollars. He left office with the federal debt level at 10 trillion dollars. In 3 and a half years in office, Obama has added 6 trillion dollars to the debt. Yes, less tax revenue was being collected. However when faced with this scenario, logic dictates that spending should be cut in order to achieve a balanced budget. Yes, the economy is growing, but very slowly. What makes you think it would not have improved without stimulus spending. Social liberals seem to be under the impression that government spending is the sole driver of economic growth. This all stems from their misguided adherence to the economic philosophy of John Maynard Keynes. He believed it was the responsibility of government to spend heavily during poor economic periods and raise taxes during good economic times. The problem with this approach is: 1. It leads to large government debt and high inflation. 2. No one can predict the duration of economic periods (good or bad). 3. The theory expects governments to pay down debts during good economic times. Before you point to Clinton, let me remind you that he had Republican Congress that forced him to balance a budget. Also, the technology bubble (which popped in 2002) brought in extra revenue for the government to begin to pay down the debt. According to the 2011 Federal budget, non-discretionary spending (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid) accounted for close to 60 percent of the total budget. That percentage is only set to go higher in the future.
I'm going to laugh in your faces after the debates. Obama's gonna do nothing but recite memorized talking points and give us a bunch of "uh, uh, uh"s he's famous for when not being saved by a teleprompter. You people are grossly underestimating Romney's intelligence and it is gonna show. I can't wait.
Yeah, Romney's a genius at extemporaneous speech.
Just ask the people in London.
They're both quite intelligent men. But I'm going to put my money on Obama for public speaking and debating.
@stephen
You got that right. It's obvious that both men did a lot of work to get to where they are, but they are very different in demeanor, consideration, empathy and thoughtfulness. Romney's debate technique is mean spirited and like a little kid tossing out one-liners punctuated by a "I think I gotcha smile".
My bet is with Obama also in the debates.
@Ryan
So, the teleprompter myth lives on. I suppose you have trouble reading so here is the excerpt from:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57413198-503544/mitt-romney-it-makes-sense-to-use-a-teleprompter/
"It does make some sense though" to use a teleprompter, Romney tells Hannity. "I do understand."
He adds: "It keeps you from saying something you don't mean, you get the message out precisely the way you want to get the message out." Romney says he has used a TelePrompter "maybe five times" in the campaign. Romney in recent months has tended to use a teleprompter for most major speeches.
"It's smart," Hannity agrees. "You're right. You don't want to make a mistake. I'll tell you, they're out to just eviscerate anybody who makes a mistake."
So, Ryan, just keep the smug teleprompter quips to yourself unless you also wish to denigrate Mr. Romney as well for using one.
romney-ryan don't know shiggady about fairness, they are not ready for a debate especially romney, he can't get anything right, just flip flops, both players ryan-romney are so stiff & lies with a straight face, the debates you need to watch see how your party will get shutdown & shut out, obama didn't outsource any jobs over seas, romney bankrupt companies & profited from them leaving many out of work,told a hurricane victim, who told him she lost everything -guess what your repub candidate told her"go home & call 211 for emergency help" now how cruel was that? she just told him she lost everything-he tells her that-how can she go home to call anybody? she had no home to go to, he wasn't listening to her at all, bet she want be voting repub.If that had been you or your siblings what would u have said-yeah the same thing, romney just want to buy voters & he has bought you are a hater, & yes PBO will knock romney out of the debates, he has no clue, now he's being prept for the debates, he'll need more than a prep for his preps don't work.
More blacks lost jobs under Obama then any other President. If you want to blame Bush then why is it that minorities lost more Jobs over the last 3 years AFTER Bush then during his 8 years is office. The blathering on this site reminds me of Reagan's time in office, you know, when the largest increase in enrollment for minorities in college occurred, when the biggest growth in the middle income for minorities occurred? Stop complaining about the small things and ask..... are you better off today then 4 years ago?
lol i think Mitt forgets about George jr, and the same failed policies that got us into this mess...which he apparently plans to just go back to. Im personally better off than 4 years ago, and hope we continue to move forward rather than take 5 steps back to the same greedy policies that got us to where we were 4 years ago..
I think the Republicans hope that if they don't say the name Bush, the rest of us will magically forget what happened the 8 years he and Cheney ran this country.........INTO THE GROUND!
I am better off than I was four years ago. I have received a pay increase every year and I am moving forward. I am better off than I was four years ago because this country is moving closer to EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL!
FOOD STAMPS
Obama – 46.2 million : Before – 28.2 million
CREDIT RATING
BEFORE AAA - Obama AA+
GAS PRICES
BEFORE - $1.65 a gallon (End of term) : Obama - $3.80 a gallon (Current)
(Source: )
UNEMPLOYMENT
Bush - 4.71% (Average) : Obama - 9.5% (Average) – 8.3% Current
( Source: www.bls.gov )
NATIONAL DEBT
Bush – Increased 4 trillion (8 Years) : Obama – Will increase 18 trillion (8 years, according to OBAMAS budget)
(Source: www.treasurydirect.gov )
DEFICIT
Bush - $0.5 Trillion per year : Obama - $1.8 Trillion per year
(Source: www.federalbudget.com)
JOBS
Bush – GAINED 3 million jobs over 8 years : Obama - LOST 6 MILLION JOBS IN 3 YEARS
INFLATION:
Bush +0.1% (End of Term) : Obama +3.8% (Current)
(Source: www.usinflationcalculator.com )
Mr. Romney, I am a Democrat and I said so.
Move forward with Obama/Biden not backwards with Romney/Ryan.
4 more for 44
Romney you have my vote, but I don't respect the 'First Lady', not after reading her college thesis, I am the wrong 'color' for her world...
They both dislike white people. & Hussien is 1/2 white. What does that tell you about a person that is 1/2 white & was raised by his white Grand Parents & then dislikes white people.
So, Kevin and Dave you guys personally know the Obama's? Wow, look everyone! Kevin and Dave know Barack and Michelle Obama! Can you guys give us some more of your insightful perspectives on the couple? I am just fascinated!
Ah, the racist card. Must be refreshing to use it on blacks.
It tells me that he can be elected to the highest office in this country understanding the simple minds of the voters of the left. They felt so proud and good congratulating themselves for having the collective mind-set to elect the first black (yet totally unqualified) President.
I say we should all feel just as proud and good when we collectively throw him out because, regardless of his color, he was a terrible choice for this country.
@Billj
It seems to me that a lot more than just left-leaning folks swept Obama into office. They also felt that he was qualified to lead. Certainly Obama and Biden were more qualified than McCain and Ms. Zero, his running mate. Just imagine the deep pucky we'd be in if some vacuous dilettante like Palin became president. The country wasn't willing to risk its future on that chance.
PS. The simple minds of the voters on the left, aka university professors and other educators, often cast as liberals, are the ones educating the youth of America. You're losing support, on average, every time a kid goes to college. Is that why conservatives hobble education initiatives?
You mean she's the wrong color for your world!
He's the first "Affirmative Action" president. Thanks to white guilt and of course a deep hatred for Bush and his wars. Just remember that he would have never gotten elected without the "white" vote, so he's betting on those self-loathing whites to feel guilty again and vote him back in office. Only problem is he will not get the independent support this time around.
Amen brother independent. I am NOT better off than I was 4 years ago. I've lost 40% of the value of my house thanks to a liberal Democratic Congress that approved loans "to anyone who was breathing". And at 66 years of age, I now am looking for a job to offset the losses of my homes value. My plan was to sell my house and downsize to a smaller house with no mortgage, but thanks to the libs giving mortgages to people who couldn't afford them and causing the collapse of the housing market, and the return of my children asking to come back and live with us because they couldn't pay off student loans and get good paying jobs, so instead of enjoying retirement, I am forced to look for work. I do this for my children so that they can get back on their financial feet and ultimately become self sufficient. This whole trillion dollar give away to the banks by the Dems has changed America. To me, the American dream is dead. I only hope that by sacrificing, it can be fixed for my children. The Dems don't have the fix for this problem. We need to stop spending like drunken sailors. We need fiscal responsibility.
Liberal dems are to blame are they. What about when Bush was in and they gave home loans to people that they knew full well could not pay them back, telling people "oh don't worry you can afford it" yea until the balloon payments came in. It was Mr. Obama's fault was it. I guess the Bush tax cuts have nothing to do with it. I guess the two wars that Bush/Cheney started doesn't count. Why not blame the weather on the President also, blame him for everything and anything.
Bernie--I assume you mean the fiscal responsibility that wrecked our economy through the conservative fixes for the economy of cutting taxes while going to wars with no way to pay for them? I'm sure that'll help you out tons. The economy is as messed up as it is because of the Republican fiscal "responsibility". It would be even worse if the Republicans in office had their way, and might just be better if your "fiscal responsibility" Tea Partiers had any clue how national-scale economies worked and weren't doing everything in their power to prevent anything from being done for the last 2 years.
But go ahead and blame the Democrats, we're on your side even if you're not on ours.
Bernie, sounds like piss-poor planning is your problem. The housing bubble that de-valued your home took place long before Obama took office. Also at age 66 you should have been planning for your retirement over the past 20 years. Your home should have been paid off 6 years. Also where is your cash savings and investments? My spouse was out of work for a year in 2001 and we're still on track. Our savings and budget kept us afloat. How is Obama to blame for your troubles. Sounds like you were spending like a drunken sailor, instead of planning, saving and investing.
We refinanced our home for a lower interest twice to reduce interest and shorten the pay off. You probably took cash out of your equity. That is why your home is not paid off. You probably used credit cards heavily. That is why you have no cash savings. You probably did not manage your investments. That is why you are looking for a job at your age. Our children have worked since junior high, now college age they work two jobs at a time plus studies. It sound like you passed you inferior financial and planning skills to your children as well. And that is Obama's fault, right?
The Financial Reform Act stopped banks from jacking up credit card interest for no good reason. I paid off all my credits. The American Opportunity Tax Credit 2009 allows us to deduct a portion of our children's college tuition. (our children are majoring in finance/economics and engineering). The Payroll Tax Credit keeps some extra money in our paychecks that put directly into our savings account. The Affordable Care Act 2010 (health care reform) has already yielded a dividend payment from our health care insurer UHC. Our investments are doing very well, along with the rest of the stock market. We are better off than we were in 2008.
Bernie, you are a moron. Your house did not lose value because of Democrats but repucks. Bush is the one that demanded banks make people to loans they did not qualify for. When the housing market collapsed your house, mine and millions of other homes lost value because of to many forclosures. People couldn't make the mortagage payments because they didn't qualify for the house in the first place. How do you fault the current administraion for that? Unbelievable!!!! Inform yourself before you continue to be a misguided sheep.
Impressive list of Obama’s accomplishments in only 3 ½ Years :
1. First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
2. First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
3.First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayer.
4. First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.
5. First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
6. First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense .
7. First President to repeat the Holy Quran tells us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.
8 .First President to violate the War Powers Act. .
9. First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
10. First President to defy a Federal Judge's court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
11. First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
12. First President to spend a trillion dollars on 'shovel-ready' jobs when there was no such thing as 'shovel-ready' jobs.
13. First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
14. First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
15. First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.
16. First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
17. First President to terminate America 's ability to put a man in space.
18.First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
19. First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it!!!!
20. First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
21. First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.
22. First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
23. First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
24. First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri -Corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
25. First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
26. First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date.
27. First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
28. First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
29. First President to go on multiple global 'apology tours'.
30. First President to take a 17 day vacation.
31. Forwarding this is an option I hope you will take.
U.S. Citizens need to be informed of the damage this president has done, and will do..... till he leaves office!!
THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP...
PLEASE REMEMBER THIS LIST WHEN YOU VOTE!
If you're looking for HOPE and CHANGE, this is your opportunity to finally get it VOTE your conscience
501st time I've seen that cut/paste bullchit.
daisychains
& your still to dense to let it sink in?
I am not easily brainwashed.
Ya gotta have one to be washed.
You can't manage more than a 5-word juvenile insult when you're not doing the cut/paste thingy can you?
And even in his five word babbling he can't spell or use words correctly. I won't point them out to you. I like you better knowing how ignorant you are.
Kevin
Thank you for the post. These truths are simply too hard for those on the left to accept.I was personally most offended by the Nobel Peace Prize -somehow he fooled the world.
Kevin,
You are a true clown. Where did you get your information? Give me your source.....
Yes, it really is hard for us on the left to swallow the Republicans set of "truths". But, hey, keep on with the cut and paste jobs. It would seem that none of you are able to do more than a 6 year old's IQ, so I guess cut and paste is your best.
AlaskaGirl
It a list of what we all read and watched. It's not statistics which one can lie about. We have all seen this happen pint by point. Which do you debate and I'll discuss it. Pick a number.
I would debate them all with you, but I am too hysterical with laughter after really taking a look at your ridiculous bullet points! I think I will do my own little copy and paste into a word document and tape it to my refrigerator door so that when I need a little chuckle I can just look at your fantastical list. It's like reading the funnies, only in text!
When you have NO ideas, NO solutions, and NO answers, NOTHING positive to offer – you talk about such import things like, birth certificates, Teleprompters, college transcripts, auto-pens, czars, rounds of golf, worthless garbage like that. Then you throw in even more garbage with words and phrases like “socialist” and “Marxist” and “he’s not one of us” – all that kind of crap. But the bottom line is more and more Americans are realizing that the right has NOTHING to offer and that’s why President Obama will be reelected in November.
DoctorLogic,
I am by no means a supporter of either Romney or Obama but most of the items on this list are very easy to prove. For example, I looked at the last item and found that the NY Daily News reported on Saturday, Dec. 3 that Obama was leaving for Hawaii to spend a 17 day Christmas vacation. Here's a partial link because posting links here is verboten (put the "h" in at the beginning): ttp://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-12-03/news/30473000_1_president-obama-budget-deal-economic-summit
Going through each of these would be a little time consuming and at least one, I feel, is subjective, but I think the vast majority of them could be proven by someone who had the time and inclination. I have neither, but certain rabid Reps like my husband (I know, lucky me, right?) probably would love to just to be a prick. Oops. Did I say that about my husband? Oh, well. He can be one.
Kevin d hoke
Bill Clinton would tell us that this list suggests someone living in an alternative universe. So . . . unless you are a paid GOP employee you may have a case for medical malpractice, until your physician prescribes psychotropic medication. I'm hoping you are a GOP employee . . . although . . . you still might have a case for medical malpractice.
Kevin hoke....whatever made you write this. You have just made yourself look like a fool and everyone is laughing. Maybe that crap you listed is remotely true, do you think anyone with half a brain cares? I can't even feel bad for you nor laugh at your nonsense. You are just a plain loser.