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Under New Hampshire's previous rules, no ID was required as a condition of voting. Ballot clerks checked the names that voters announced at the polls, read back the addresses for verification, and handed over a ballot.
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Under the state's new law, voters must present a photo ID -- a driver's license, a voter ID card, a military ID card, a US passport, a student ID card, a photo ID issued by any level of government, and any other photo ID deemed legitimate by supervisors at the polls.
A year from now, the list of acceptable ID's will be narrowed to a driver's license, a non-driver ID card, military ID, or passport. But voters unable to produce the required identification can sign an affidavit, attesting to their identity, and cast a regular ballot. Beginning next year, any voter doing so will also be photographed.
New Hampshire's list of acceptable IDs as of 2013 is actually more restrictive than the set of IDs Texas would have accepted under that state's voter ID law, which a federal court blocked last week.
So why the difference? It seems New Hampshire's decision to also make it possible for voters without the proper ID to cast a regular ballot, provided they sign an affidavit and have their picture taken, allowed enough leeway.
The Voting Rights Act requires federal approval for election law changes in states with a history of discrimination against minority voters. Most of the states subject to the law are in the South. New Hampshire's change required approval because 10 townships in the state are covered by the act, even though the entire state is not.
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Anyone residing in one of these states who are practicing voter suppression needs to vote absentee and avoid all of this BS!
Voter fraud in this country was at 0.003% in 2008!
Why the sudden sense of urgency to disenfranchise those who are more likely to vote Democratic?
Your such a hypocrite...truly pathetic.
I've been voting absentee for about 20 years and truly enjoy the ease of voting at my leisure.
I never have to worry about my schedule or any ID laws that anyone from the GNOP can dream up.
So JFK-2112,
Instead of trying to discredit the statistics, you try to discredit the individual reporting the stats.
Personal responsibility at its best. How's that working for you?
Voter id laws - kinda an interesting topic, given no one gets into the DNC convention without photo ID.
And I assume no libbie here thinks the DNC is racist, right?
Saw Michelle last night and I will say she looked fantastic. She look good, period, but for someone who is 50 + years old she was incredible.
Overall I also liked her tone. Too bad we are not looking to elect a 'Father of the Year' candidate, cause Obama would be our guy.
Nope, our problems are not how we are raising our kids, it's what we are doing to them/taking from them. $16Trillion, debt and deficits for as far as the eye can see?
Generational theft.
Getting into a convention isn't a constitutional right Spanky.
Is that why Mitt Romney's proposals are projected to increase the current deficit by about $600 billion?
Party words and talking points -- right on target with the dems! "disenfranchise" and "voter suppression. You are nothing more than a parrot for the left. They pay you in food stamps, sec 8 housing, and taxpayer $$$ called welfare?
Hi Bryan,
I have to admit it was good for a chuckle! ☺
Hope you & the family are doing well!
We miss you around here!
xabre - "Getting into a convention isn't a constitutional right Spanky."
So you can be discriminatory as long as it does not affect "a constitutional right"?
Wow, you are a sharp one.
P.S.
The U.S. constitution only applies to U.S. citizens not people who happen to be standing on U.S. soil.
As long as you cannot discern differences between private events and constitutional rights, debating your "points" will be a futile effort.
Please tell me how that relates to the current topic at hand. Because if you are referring to the fact that you believe illegal aliens are voting, that's why there are very few (like single digits) cases of in-person voter fraud? Must be all those damn illegal aliens doing it again.
footsy in mouthie redhed,
One cannot quantify voter fraud without checking every registered vote. Your number for voter fraud(0.003%) is as fake as you are.
Of course it's "futile" for you, you have nothing of value to add, as you have just shown.
"Please tell me how that relates to the current topic at hand"
You alluded to voting being a constitutional right, the constitution only applies to citizens. Is that relationship too complicated for you?
Hey, fellow libbies,
have you looked at the front page of foxnews today? The tighty righties always want to bitch and moan about how left MSNBC is; and yet, MSNBC had GREAT photos and coverage of the RNC convention,...
Fox is acting like it's barely going on. Priceless, eh?
Oh there are links to stuff; but NO FANFARE, NO PHOTOS, NO "We're Getting Our Asses Kicked" acknowledgments.
I am a PROUD liberal today! whoo hoo!
http://www.foxnews.com/
JFK is employing the SOP of the liberals on this site :-)
(Hey fisty... show me the clown nose!)
Of course. Knowledge isn't a priority for you, as you clearly demonstrate day after day.
Spanky,
"You don't just make things up".
Reality of this debt, 16T, is that taxes will have to up on everyone. We just have to pay this debt down. But the problem is what each party is offering. One thing I sure know is this, Romney/Ryan budget proposal would add to this woes. That budget is a killer.
Bye the way, stop checking out the FLOTUS
The funny thing is, I'll bet there is way more voter farud by voting absentee than by in-person voting. What is to prevent someone from grabbing the mail, filling out the ballot, forging the signature, then mailing the ballot back in? Do they really check the signatures of all the absentee ballots with the signatures that they have on file? Also the ballots could be filled out by someone other than the person voting then they get the registered voter to sign without reviewing the ballot. If there is a voter fraud problem (and I have yet to be convinced that there is a real problem), I would bet the overwhelming majority of it occurs with absentee ballots.
The only voter fraud taking place is within the republican party.
Not just the majority, almost exclusively.
Feel free to check out the Brennan Study for voter ID fraud info as well as summaries of laws, etc.
http ://www .brennancenter.org/content/section/category/voter_id
The law sounds reasonable to me, despite the timing of a national close election.
In other news: Holder also approved Black Panthers voter intimidation at polling stations.
who has constitutional rights then Xabie, oh hey i have to show ID to buy a gun and pay 25 dollar Brady crap plus be a certain age. 2nd amend makes zero mention of ID or Brady Bill or age.
Then you'll have to take that up with SCOTUS. The truth of the matter is the convention is 'private' (i.e. you buy a ticket). You have to prove your identity to make the person to the ticket. The fact you think this is in any way a valid straw-man towards voter ID is hilarious. But I guess this is the reason I never weigh your posts very heavily.
Owning a gun is a constitutional right. Try not showing an ID and see how far you get in purchasing one.
Take it up with the Supreme Court then, oh wait...
Another swing and a miss. Perhaps one day you will learn that straw-man arguments don't even work. Wishful thinking, I know.
Xabre
GOP is a joke of a party. They make Robert Mugabe look like a saint.
I didnt watch the RNC but I hear MSNBC played 'Spot the Negro', sounds like they had great coverage.
only today huh? Kinda like Michelle Obama for the first time being proud to be an American.
Poor Xabie, not another good day for you huh. But Xabie you failed to mention who has Constitutional Rights.
Definitely. Dell still hasn't shipped my new Alienware.
So how about a state where th governor tells the MVD to take down signs telling people how to get a voter ID, where college students can vote if it has their exact dorm room given, where Tech. Ed. students ID's won't work and where 10's of thousands will be denied their right to vote because there were 8 cases of voter fraud in the past decade. Call it republicans knowing how to win an election at all costs. Not even any guilt for what they are doing!!!! Oh, it is Wacko Walker's state where the courts have rules the law un-constitutional , Thank God!
Seriously? Aren't you from the party that always tells us that we can't control guns because there are already so many illegal guns out there? Who shows ID to buy those?
And thanks for supporting the loose gun policies that have allowed so many illegal weapons to be disseminated. You've done us all a big favor.
Besides, all you need to do to buy a gun legally without an ID or background check is attend a gun show.
Wouldn't want to block instant gratification of our blood lust, would we?
A court made a decision that would help America?
Obama will not be pleased about this.
LOL. My god do people on the vine not understand statistics. Convictions for voter fraud were low, not actual fraud, or are you actually gullible enough to believe that the conviction rate on fraud is 100%? Farking hilarious.
Let me present this question to everyone. If Police were not allowed to check identification for people drinking alchohol, what would be the conviction numbers for Minors in Posession? It would be 0. To get someone convicted on in person voter fraud is nearly impossible because you have removed the only method of verifying someone is who they say they are.
Situation 1:
A shows up votes as B, A leaves.
B shows up, finds out someone voted as him. A is gone, no arrest/conviction made. Voter FRAUD NEVER HAPPENED, LOLOLOL (according to democrats)
Situation 2:
A shows up votes as B, A leaves.
B never shows up, didn't even know they were registered. VOTER FRAUD NEVER HAPPENED, LOLOLOLOL
Without the ability to identify voters, how do you convict someone on in person fraud? The only cases so far have been of people voting at the same precinct as different people at the same day. Hardly the only form of voter fraud manageable. The convictions rates are small % of actual voter fraud, but no real studies have been done because nobody is allowed to ask to see ID. Likewise those studies ignore convictions at the county level where the majority of voter fraud prosecutions take place, they only looked at State and Federal in order to fudge their results.
Exactly Jesse. I have been writing that very same thing for months now and never get a response. They can't defend their "no voter fraud" position when situations (like using a dead person's name and address) make it untraceable. Go to the gas station, use someone else's credit or debit card (these places don't even ask to see ID anymore and you can swipe at the pump no questions asked). Chances are if you just found it, you will get away with it once. The ones who do get caught are the ones that can't stop there.
Since only .004% of the population in the U.S. had HIV, I suppose Feisty doesn't promote safe sex.
Safe sex? With Fisty? Good one.
She thinks its safe sex as long as she can exterminate her very own fetus at our expense.
Checking ID's for security reasons represents a whole different set of risk factors. One person can kill many others. One vote hardly ever makes any difference in the outcome of our elections except maybe with a population of 100 or less.
That we are talking about voter ID when we have so many more important issues to discuss is a testament to Fox News making this an issue. That they chose to make this an issue as the unofficial propaganda arm of the Republican Party says it all.
So a student at a school in New Hampshire who is FROM ANOTHER STATE can vote twice ?
Could that non-resident student vote in New Hampshire while filing an absentee ballot from another state ??
Jesse,
You are suspending reality because in both of your scenarios - A shows up with SOME FORM OF ID to vote as B.
It could be the Voter ID Card mailed to the address on record, or a current utility bill or a costco card, etc.
you are acting like there isn't ANY validation taking place and that is simply NOT the case.
Reagan ignored AIDS when it was only .004%. It wasn't until his close buddy Rock Hudson died of AIDS that he took it seriously. This came at least two years after rejecting Center for Disease Control's request for funding to study this disease. Thanks for reminding me of another STUPID thing Reagan did, that is, delaying the real start of the battle against AIDS.
Name calling is a nasty habit. Enlighten us with some facts please.
Voter fraud is not a problem in the USA. Name one person that has been caught doing this. No one in my county. In fact, no one in my state of PA. I've already named one person who died of AIDS.
I guess the folks who are so bent out of shape at having to show a form of ID to vote also don't drink, drive, have a bank account, travel abroad etc etc. What is so difficult about having to prove who you are at a voting booth in the same manner that you do to renew your driver's license or buy a six pack? What are you afraid of? In the liberal spin on this, there's a Bull Connor in the street outside every polling station with fire hoses and snarling police dogs keeping people from exercising their rights and George Wallace is standing in the doorway. For every modern day bogeyman story of what the Republicans are trying to do to deprive people of their rights, there is a counter argument about the entire cemetery register of Cook Co., Illinois being on a list of elgible Democrat voters.
The voter ID law in NH is tame I agree with it. There are some laws passed in other states are design to supress the vote. OHIO is determine to supress the vote by any means necessary the states have made lots of new laws. Fla is a state who have many new voting laws. I've voting since 1964 I don't carry photo ID, only my MEDICARE card. Like MILLIONS in my city I don't drive. Tens of milions don't have bank accounts,Tens of millions don't travel. MY city has everthing
J E Burton I too have a Medicare card, it came with my social security. I had to have a bank account to get my social security direct deposited which they required.
There's a bigger issues here with all these voter ID laws. How many voters will shy away from the polls because they have an outstanding parking ticket, bounced a check, or owe back child support. I'm not condoning bad behavior, but some of these people keep a low profile to avoid paying their debts, and they may feel the government will nab them if they show up at the polls and have to present a drivers license to vote.
HUH? They are going to vote and no one is there to pick them up on other charges -- what a jerk you are to suggest they would!
Wow, Dottie - I'm a jerk to suggest someone may be reluctant to show their ID at a poll for fear they may be arrested? I didn't say they WOULD be arrested - I said the voter might shy away from showing up at all.
BTW, it'd be nice if you could make your point without being insulting.
No wonder Democrats are scared - criminals are the majority of their base, and their "leaders" for that matter.
pjam09 - criminals cannot vote, so you're statement is inaccurate. Try thinking before you post - you might come up with something intelligent instead of just insulting.
And before you scream "voter fraud", tell me: what about a driver's license tells you that person is a convicted felon? Yeah, those laws are going to be really effective...
HAHAHAH!!!! Those 'people' would be called DEMOCRATS!
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Like your friends Fisty and Bev... right?
AHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!! You people crack me up!
;o)
Those are the voter intimidators from Texas, that stick a camera in your face, and take your picture, ask your name and get someone to run a background check on you online looking for: wait for it......parking tickets, warrants, etc.
Ursula is exactly right.
Ursula-279622
Congressman Joe Walsh is a Democrat? News to me.
@Ursula-
If you are fine, upstanding, law-abiding citizen of this Great Nation, you will not have to worry about your criminal record because you shouldn't have one. Outstanding parking tickets do have a grace period before a warrant is issued for an arrest. Same thing for bounced checks and back child support.
But when I go to vote, I have to show an ID and there are no law enforcement officials standing at the table waiting to apprehend me or anyone else for that matter. They are usually outside the voting station directing traffic- hardly engaged in BOLOs. I believe since you are presenting this as potential problem you don't really demonstrate true knowledge or experiences of going to vote.
Now, let's not forget the mantra of the Democratic Party, "Vote early, and vote often!" Lmao! You silly liberals are freaking hilarious!
I look for Romney to have 2 terms and then Ryan will probably have 2 terms as President himself. The Democrats have their ownselves to blame after the misery they put Americans through the last 4 years with Obama. Dems had their chance by having it all, President/Senate/House and they blew it BIG TIME!
hehehehehehehehe.................................I look forward to the repeal of Gun Laws and the decline of Welfare in America over the coming years under Republican Administrations.
o.o, I agree with you completely. I just can't see 3 little old ladies who are manning the books and handing out "I voted" stickers taking down a criminal because his ID shows up on a BOLO! I can't see their husbands who are helping people get the machines started doing that on a high-sign from their wives either.
I really think Democrats need to stop drinking the koo
lk-aid on this one and just let this country get on with business.One Citizen, One Vote!
Recently, there's been a lot said about voter registration, voter fraud and voter ID.
Previously, the US Supreme Court ruled, in an Indiana case, that states can require photo identification from voters. Not only should all states require a voter ID, we need to ensure that only eligible US citizens vote in order to prevent fraud.
It's about time we introduce a secure, tamper proof voter ID, like our neighbors to the South, in Mexico, are doing since 2004. It is difficult to believe that in our times a person can exist without an ID, for it’s necessary to get welfare benefits, food stamps, medicare benefits, unemployment benefits, even banking account. And many states issue FREE IDs….
"Mexico’s Instituto Federal Electoral (IFE) is an autonomous, non-partisan organization charged with ensuring free and fair elections.
In January, 2004, IFE entered into a four-year contract with Digimarc Corporation to design and supply secure, reliable voter ID cards to Mexican citizens in order to help ensure the ideal of “One Citizen, One Vote.”
In the years since then, nearly 25 million credentials have been produced and Mexico’s voter ID card is now widely regarded as one of the most secure, reliable voter identification systems in the world.
So trusted is the integrity of Mexico’s voter ID credential that amid all the controversy surrounding the close presidential election on July 2, 2006, no one questioned the security, reliability, or authenticity of Mexico’s voter identification itself.
Indeed, Mexico’s voter ID has become the country’s de facto identification document and is readily accepted as positive proof-of-identity by merchants, banks, government officials, and citizens nationwide."
It's my opinion that we should communicate to our elected representatives that it's time they ensure
One Citizen, One Vote, and implement Federal, tamper-proof, Voter ID, in ALL STATES.
@Ursula: solid points but unfortunately you're attempting to use logic in a discussion with a parade of lemmings that are bound and determined to march off the flat part of the Earth ... that they assure us they have proof of.
Although this particular version of "Voter ID" -- it's actually closer to voter suppression -- approaches making some sense by allowing citizens to vote that day and then provide a mechanism for compliance at the next election; I sincerely wish that we could get the GOP to expend just 10% of the passion they have for this issue on addressing infrastructure, legitimate tax reform, and other issues related to the economy like improving US science and technology. Voter fraud is such a non issue in this country, it's outrageous how much energy and money has been expended on it.
@node4-
Obama had 3.5 yrs to address infrastructure, legitimate tax reform, and other issues related to the economy like improving science and technology. He even spent $820 billion dollars meant to fix said infrastructure and put Americans back to work. WHERE IS THE IMPROVED INFRASTRUCTURE? WHY HAS THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE STAYED ABOVE 8% FOR THE PAST 3.5 YEARS?!?!?
The Democrats had their chance; I am underwhelmed at the performance of this administration and that is why I will vote for Romney...Don't get me wrong; Romney has four years to un@!$%# this country as well. If they do not move forward in the right direction, they too shall be a one-term president...
I drive on new roads (some that hadn't been addressed in 15 years prior to the stimulus program) every week, live within 20 minutes of a bridge that was rebuilt with a portion of funding coming from the program, and am going to a conference in 2 weeks to discuss some software developed with stimulus seed money to a university that is now in the process of being spun off into a commercial application. And yes; my GOP congressman (who voted against all stimulus funding and has continued to call Obama a socialist) has posed with a big smile at each of the events to celebrate these uses of stimulus funding.
In my opinion, it was a mistake to make tax cuts part of the stimulus; we'd have been better off spending the money on tangible activity and doing the tax cuts as an adder or as part of structural reform. You can easily get to lists by zip, region, state, or other criteria at recovery.org or stimuluswatch.org ... as well as use a public search engine to find a variety of sites that detail individual projects and activities.
Considering that it was headed towards 20-25% and in danger of staying there for a long time, I'm amazed it's stayed as low as it has. We suffered a global meltdown and it's not going to turn around in 36 months. There were, and are, major structural problems in the US economy that are not going to go away with a clever slogan or the stroke of a pen or a change in political power. It takes years to rebuild a manufacturing base in a market segment and to develop technical expertise in rapidly evolving domains. That being said, there are millions of jobs that are currently unfilled in the US because people don't have the skill sets to do them --- you can't fill a position in physical chemistry with an event planner. Nobody denies that we don't have a big unemployment problem, but we didn't get here overnight; we're not going to climb out of this hole in a couple of months - especially while the rest of the world is hurting too.
You are only addressing roads; that has and always will be a piecemeal fashion of repair. There is limited funds applied to fixing potholes, resurfacing as necessary and adding a lane at a trouble section of the highway. I am referring to infrastructure regarding telecommunications and electricity. Our electrical power lines are so inefficient that transferring power from one station to another energy bleeds off and is wasted. We accept this because of the limits of technology and materials. But there have been advancements regarding superconducting materials that would allow more electricity to be passed and not wasted during the transmission of that power. In doing so that would save billions of dollars every year rather passing the cost of that waste down to the consumer. Additionally, with said stimulus $$$ there was a big push for solar and wind power to be generated and again pass the savings down to the consumer. After all, it was our taxpayer dollars that funded those programs. There has been NO savings. With regards to telecommunications, there are still big gaping holes in coverage for high speed Internet access across this country. I know a majority of this gap is based on demand and the TELCOs determine when and where to place nodes but part of that money should have also gone to fund to close that gap and provide a standard for all consumers to have access to high-speed Internet. In doing so, that will open up more customers to rich content on the Internet and also allow those entrepreneurs to open up new small businesses; thus, growing businesses and creating new jobs.
Regarding the unemployment rate heading towards 20-25% I would like to know what reference you are citing this from. That is the first time I ever heard those values pop up...During the Bush era, the unemployment rate was hovering in the 6% region. I did a google search on public data and selected unemployment rate and it automatically pulls the data from the source and graphically depicts it. You can also select to review from Clinton to present day. You will see that the rate was a little high during Clinton, it came down during Bush, there was a slight spike but it settled down and then it rose during Obama's time frame. If you are president if you make promises to help but you can't keep your promises then you are no better than anyone else. Why would I want more bull@!$%# from a bull@!$%# artist? Obama promised he would cut the deficit in half. Instead he tacked on another $5 trillion. This country cannot sustain the spending habits of this administration and Congress should have slowed his roll because THIS type of spending in NOT conducive to making the country recover.
No argument; this country IS married to the global economy. We need to start pulling some of the manufacturing jobs back to the U.S. and relax the rules for small businesses to open up and start hiring. We cannot be the engine (or even the starter motor) that gets the rest of the global economy turning over again until we fix ourselves by getting our citizens back to work.
"There is limited funds..."
SHOULD READ:
"There are limited funds..."
Why WOULD this website allow me to correct my grammar? Apologies to the grammar and syntax nazis!
:-)
One more thing:
If I were president, immediately following my inauguration, I would hold a cabinet meeting along with the key majority representatives and senators to tell them to put a mark on the calendar and say that date is when we all agree to see REAL CHANGE and then work backwards from that date to find out what needs to be done to make that REAL CHANGE work.
If it is a policy change, sell it to Congress but more importantly SELL IT TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY. If Congress resists, have the people write to Congress to work with the president. This Administration did little selling and for an administration that touted 'transparency' there was a LOT of back door drug deals. Be more like Reagan and be this generation's "Great Communicator" to go across the aisle and convince the opposite side of Congress that you need their support.
If things go well and the country prospers, I get to proudly run for four more years. If not, I will gladly submit my resignation. I believe there is a youtube video from Obama that said if he didn't fix the economy in four years he doesn't deserve to have another term...I suspect we will be seeing that video in a couple of Romney's ads real soon.
* There were numerous projects around power transmission and distribution, but probably the ones most germane to your questions are related to "SmartGrid Technology". Superconductor - based lines for transmission has it's use cases, but it's quite limited due to the supporting infrastructure requirements to be successful - primarily in concentrated urban areas between larger feeder stations and distribution trunks. The real issue has been how to harness excess or off-peak generated power from multiple sources and apply it with minimal losses to the primary consumer grid ... which is where the SmartGrid research centered.
* A lot of solar, wind, and other alternative (e.g. wave generators) not only allowed costs to stay steady but also allowed US manufacturers to build systems and export them to other countries. It's not going to happen overnight, but it's happening. We finally have a major solar system manufacturer back in the US; however the Chinese have countered by dumping (ilegally) on us ... which precipitated the issues with Solyndra. In spite of the fact that their marketing department falsified the efficiency of their systems, they might have survived if common Si panels hadn't dropped by almost half suddenly.
* Telecommunications are a problem for the US, Russia, China, and India because of the sheer area to be covered. We're in a difficult time period where wireless hasn't quite replaced hardwired infrastructure and we have not fully transitioned to VoIP. There were some infrastructure projects around rural internet - and I was just to a small midwestern town (<800 people) where they are finally getting decent cell service and wired internet, but it was expensive. The GOP blocked the initiative to do a more advanced upgrade to rural communities; pretty dumb considering that would open the door for more people to work in those towns in global call centers and work-from-home opportunities.
* 20 - 25% was routinely discussed within Fortune 100 companies and tossed around repeatedly by pundits and economists as the "true" unemployment figure we could be faced with. The GOP has accused Obama all summer of "hiding" an unemployment figure of 17% and several isolated parts of the US (e.g. Detroit) have figures projected to be that high.
* Regarding deficit spending: Obama's biggest political miscalculation was not immediately embracing and pushing Simpson-Bowles. However; when he did get around to pursuit of "The Grand Bargain" last year, the Tea Party in the House killed it because it had additional revenue generation through taxes. Obama could have handled that situation better, but the GOP - TP position on this is childish. There is no excuse for that kind of stupidity.
When you say there were numerous projects, I guess you are saying that those projects have brought a return on investment regarding putting this country back to work. Or perhaps the savings in $$$ to allow the citizens of this country to leave more money in their pocket. Or is it the ability to reduce the unemployment rate to somewhere in the 5% range rather than the 8% that I continue to look at...That $820 billion was supposed to be a stimulus to get this country back to work and spur growth. So far I haven't seen it. And when POTUS says, "You didn't build that" I guess I cannot take credit for those projects even though it was my tax dollars that contributed to those projects. If I can take credit for that then YES- I DID BUILD THAT.
I guess you didn't watch that ABCNews article about Bob Woodward and the whole situation that boiled over and place blame squarely on Obama for not being satisfied and had to go for asking for ANOTHER $400 billion that this country didn't have. All to satisfy his grandiose plans. If this country cannot afford $400 billion then why would you try to ram down the throats of the people to pay for it? We don't want it and we cannot afford it. Watch that ABCNews report and you will see what I am talking about.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bob-woodward-gaps-president-obamas-leadership-contributed-debt/story?id=17183930#.UE9nro1lR69
Although I think as a general rule the voter id laws that the GOP have pushed to supposedly stop an "epidemic" of fraud provide too many obstacles to voting; this one sounds ok - for this year. Sorry to see that the NH laws will be even worse next year.
That being said for this year, as long as the voter id cards are sent to every house, apartment, obviously free of charge, people can use these cards to vote. In my state prior to the Texas Repub legislature tried to ramrod their new voter id laws, with (car license or CHGL permit to vote) all that was needed was a voter id card saying your name, address (no photo). The system worked but the legislature passed the bill, without the consent of the governed I might add, that is currently being sued by the government for voting rights violations.
One problem I have with these laws are how they have been rushed to be implemented. I assume most of these were approved by state legislatures and not directly by the citizenry. It would have passed the smell test if these new restrictions were placed on the november ballot for implementation in the future (next election). Instead the hurried implementation and court fights will confuse the requirments and delay the ability for the voting public in different states to become ready. Case in point, just last week the Texas voting id law was rejected. Will it win another appeal, will it be enforced or not enforced in November, who knows. That is the big problem.
Of course Eric Holder's DOJ approves New Hampshire's
voter ID law, it has no teeth, just like Obama's immigration policy.
A win for America and the constitution, a loss for criminals and the liberals who pander to them.
I think the next thing will be, if you are woman, you have to get a ultrasound to vote. When I look at this republican party, it reminds me so much of the taliban.
Where were all of those tea nuts when idiot boy Bush was squandering our future...You know starting wars, giving tax breaks with money borrowed from China. Why would anyone with a right mind vote for that again. pjam09 you were definitely dropped on a head when you were a child. The only thing that Repubnuts are good for is spending someone else money and lie with a smile on their faces. 90% of the debt we own you can thank repubnuts for. After all DICK Cheney set it all: "The deficits do not matter".
One Citizen, One Vote!
Recently, there's been a lot said about voter registration, voter fraud and voter ID.
Previously, the US Supreme Court ruled, in an Indiana case, that states can require photo identification from voters. Not only should all states require a voter ID, we need to ensure that only eligible US citizens vote in order to prevent fraud.
It's about time we introduce a secure, tamper proof voter ID, like our neighbors to the South, in Mexico, are doing since 2004. It is difficult to believe that in our times a person can exist without an ID, for it’s necessary to get welfare benefits, food stamps, medicare benefits, unemployment benefits, even banking account. And many states issue FREE IDs….
"Mexico’s Instituto Federal Electoral (IFE) is an autonomous, non-partisan organization charged with ensuring free and fair elections.
In January, 2004, IFE entered into a four-year contract with Digimarc Corporation to design and supply secure, reliable voter ID cards to Mexican citizens in order to help ensure the ideal of “One Citizen, One Vote.”
In the years since then, nearly 25 million credentials have been produced and Mexico’s voter ID card is now widely regarded as one of the most secure, reliable voter identification systems in the world.
So trusted is the integrity of Mexico’s voter ID credential that amid all the controversy surrounding the close presidential election on July 2, 2006, no one questioned the security, reliability, or authenticity of Mexico’s voter identification itself.
Indeed, Mexico’s voter ID has become the country’s de facto identification document and is readily accepted as positive proof-of-identity by merchants, banks, government officials, and citizens nationwide."
It's my opinion that we should communicate to our elected representatives that it's time they ensure
One Citizen, One Vote, and implement Federal, tamper-proof, Voter ID, in ALL STATES.
I was apposed to the Texas voter ID law and the Republican redistricting map, but thankfully the Justice Department rejected both as descriminating against minorities. I like the NH voter ID law because it allows a voter without an ID to sign a statement as to their identity and allow them to vote. The law becomes more restrictive the next time around, which is OK because it gives voters plenty of time to aquire a proper ID. The ID would have to be without cost to pass Constutional muster however.
Gotta love the pathetic right trash always calling names and spewing hate!!!!!
I see that on both sides J. You know... Like "the pathetic right trash" comment.
And while everybody's watching for the black guy to show up at the polls and vote as Mary Poppins....
Researchers Hack Voting Machine for $26
By Matt Liebowitz
Published September 30, 2011
| TechMediaNetwork
Campaigning for the 2012 presidential race has already begun, but what the candidates don't know is that come election day, hackers could be the ones whose votes have the biggest impact.
Researchers from the Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois have developed a hack that, for about $26 and an 8th-grade science education, can remotely manipulate the electronic voting machines used by millions of voters all across the U.S.
The researchers, Salon reported, performed their proof-of-concept hack on a Diebold Accuvote TS electronic voting machine, a type of touchscreen Direct Recording Electronic (DRE) voting system that is widely used for government elections.
(Diebold's voting-machine business is now owned by the Denver-based Dominion Voting Systems, whose e-voting machines are used in about 22 states.)
In a video, Roger Johnston and Jon Warner from Argonne National Laboratory's Vulnerability Assessment Team demonstrate three different ways an attacker could tamper with, and remotely take full control, of the e-voting machine simply by attaching what they call a piece of "alien electronics" into the machine's circuit board.
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2011/09/30/researchers-hack-voting-machine-for-26/
That's interesting Amunaka, but it requires several things to happen. 1. Physical access to the machine; 2. Ability to make it look like the machine wasn't tampered with (replacement of locks, sealed ties, etc.) PRIOR to the machine being used for the election; 3. Altering the circuit board in such a manner that it doesn't fail the testing of the machine when it turns on; 4. Ability to access the machine to hide the physical changes that were made when the machines are inspected after the voting; 5. Ability to hide the conspiracy from federal election officials and poll watchers.
While possible, it would be highly unlikely to happen unless there was a significant voter fraud conspiracy to include the federal election officals and poll watchers from both parties.
It would almost have to happen at the manufacturing plant.
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Ya ..election officials ...who owns those machines ..who makes the software ..who controls them state by state...
Clay County, KY Election Officials Found Guilty of Election Fraud, Vote Buying
By Brad Friedman on 3/25/2010
Convicted high-ranking officials include a circuit court judge, county clerk and school superintendent
Each face up to 20 years in broad conspiracy that included manipulation of electronic voting machines...
All eight defendants in Clay County, Kentucky's election fraud trial have been found guilty today by a federal jury. Six of those eight were high-ranking election officials, including the county clerk, a circuit judge and the school superintendent. The conspirators were charged with having manipulated federal elections in 2002, 2004 and 2006 by buying and selling votes and manipulating electronic voting machines.
According to AP, each of the now-convicted felons could face up to 20 years in prison for what prosecutors had described as a conspiracy to manipulate elections for decades in the rural, heavily Republican county.
Supporters of unverifiable electronic voting, such as election officials and voting machines companies, had long argued that, though manipulation of such systems was possible, nobody had actually ever done so. While that dubious argument was difficult to independently verify one way or another --- since the private vendors make public oversight of such systems virtually impossible by blocking citizen inspection and oversight of such systems due to claims of "trade secrecy" --- the denialists arguments are no longer valid.
Furthermore, the verdict underscores what many critics of e-voting have long argued: the greatest security threat to such systems come from election insiders, not from the voting public and dubious claims of "voter fraud".
We recently detailed the testimony of one of the witnesses in the case who described how she was trained by the county's chief election official, Clerk Freddy Thompson (one of those convicted today), to change votes cast by voters on the county's ES&S touch-screen voting systems after they'd left the voting booth. The witness, Wanda White also detailed how she was instructed to change her own voter registration from Republican to Democratic so that she could serve as a Democratic precinct official.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7765
Whose Voting Machines
by Doug Pibel
posted Dec 31, 2003
Two of the corporations that provide nearly all of the voting machines in the United States—ES&S and Diebold—are controlled by Republicans with strong ties to the Bush administration. One company is also linked to a far-right fundamentalist Christian movement.
In a recent mailing to Republican donors, Walden O'Dell, CEO of Diebold Inc., one of three companies certified to sell electronic voting equipment to the state of Ohio, stated his commitment “to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year.”
All of the $195,000 Diebold has given in political contributions since 2000 went to the Republican Party or Republican candidates, as has all of the over $240,000 that the company's directors and chief officers have donated, according to OpenSecrets.org.
Diebold and ES&S are heavily interconnected. Brothers Todd and Bob Urosevich founded American Information Services (AIS), which became ES&S when AIS merged with Business Records Corporation (BRC). Todd works at ES&S as vice president, while Bob is now president of Diebold. ES&S claims that it counted 56 percent of U.S. votes in the last four presidential elections.
AIS was initially funded by Howard Ahmanson. Ahmanson is a member of the Council for National Policy, a “steering group” linked to the Bush administration, and has holdings in ES&S. Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, former CEO of AIS, had significant AIS holdings when the company counted the votes for his surprise election victory in 1996. Hagel has been scrutinized by the Senate Ethics Committee over his investments in the McCarthy Group. ES&S, which counted the votes when Hagel was re-elected in 2002, is a subsidiary of the McCarthy Group, according to The Hill.
BRC was started with money from Texas billionaire Nelson Bunker Hunt. Both Ahmanson and Hunt are large contributors to the Chalcedon Foundation, a think tank for the Christian Reconstruction movement, which advocates literal application of Old-Testament law.
The company hired by the Republican governor of Maryland to analyze Diebold's computer voting systems, defense contractor SAIC, also has close Republican ties. SAIC reported that security flaws in Diebold's systems could be fixed.
SAIC board members Admiral Bill Owens (former military aide to Dick Cheney), and ex-CIA chief Robert Gates, who was implicated in the Iran-Contra scandal of the 1980s, also serve on the board of VoteHere, a growing elections software company. SAIC itself is producing electronic voting systems in partnership with Diversified Dynamics.
SAIC has been investigated for fraud and security lapses in its electronic systems, but has received contracts for work in Iraq.
http://www.yesmagazine.org/article.asp?id=683
If I were into conspiracy theories,...I'd argue that this FACT alone is why Romney feels that boating is more important than pressing the sweaty flesh of the peasants that he SHOULD be concerned about earning votes from.
But,...that would be too cynical, wouldn't it?
Clara KCMO - Nice try at redirection...you yutz.
your yiddish translator isn't working
PUTZ!
One Citizen, One Vote!
Recently, there's been a lot said about voter registration, voter fraud and voter ID.
Previously, the US Supreme Court ruled, in an Indiana case, that states can require photo identification from voters. Not only should all states require a voter ID, we need to ensure that only eligible US citizens vote in order to prevent fraud.
It's about time we introduce a secure, tamper proof voter ID, like our neighbors to the South, in Mexico, are doing since 2004. It is difficult to believe that in our times a person can exist without an ID, for it’s necessary to get welfare benefits, food stamps, medicare benefits, unemployment benefits, even banking account. And many states issue FREE IDs….
"Mexico’s Instituto Federal Electoral (IFE) is an autonomous, non-partisan organization charged with ensuring free and fair elections.
In January, 2004, IFE entered into a four-year contract with Digimarc Corporation to design and supply secure, reliable voter ID cards to Mexican citizens in order to help ensure the ideal of “One Citizen, One Vote.”
In the years since then, nearly 25 million credentials have been produced and Mexico’s voter ID card is now widely regarded as one of the most secure, reliable voter identification systems in the world.
So trusted is the integrity of Mexico’s voter ID credential that amid all the controversy surrounding the close presidential election on July 2, 2006, no one questioned the security, reliability, or authenticity of Mexico’s voter identification itself.
Indeed, Mexico’s voter ID has become the country’s de facto identification document and is readily accepted as positive proof-of-identity by merchants, banks, government officials, and citizens nationwide."
It's my opinion that we should communicate to our elected representatives that it's time they ensure
One Citizen, One Vote, and implement Federal, tamper-proof, Voter ID, in ALL STATES.
This is really about the GOP plan to establish a National Identity Card Program for everyone in the USA. They want us to be like all the other countries so they can keep track of us.
We all have social security cards - isn't that tracking enough? Used to be you didn't need one until you got a job, but now every new infant is assigned a number before his parents can claim him on their tax returns. These ID methods may prevent certain types of fraud or other criminal behavior, but they also diminish our privacy.
"Papers please..." is coming to your hometown!
The thing that amazes me is the Party of less government is also the party of vaginal probes and voter ID laws.
Pretty soon they will want to know who you are voting for. Loss of freedom in increments.
GUY, and many of these folks are the very same people who rant against a national I.D., claiming that "Big Government" would be tracking it's citizens.
Let's all stop pretending that Republicans are in the extreme habit of trying to suppress the vote on the other side. This is not something new. What is new are the tactics used to try to accomplish this. Used to be they would just troll the poll stations intimidating voters and challenging votes, or robo calling targeted democratic households with bad polling information (wrong date, wrong place). Now that they've gotten more control of the state legislatures, we are seeing more aggressive ways to limit Democratic voting.
The Republicans are just trying to prevent those "dead people" from voting a straight Democratic ticket ... so horribly evil of them to disenfranchise the dead.
Does the phrase "new black panthers" strike a familiar note?
One Citizen, One Vote!
Recently, there's been a lot said about voter registration, voter fraud and voter ID.
Previously, the US Supreme Court ruled, in an Indiana case, that states can require photo identification from voters. Not only should all states require a voter ID, we need to ensure that only eligible US citizens vote in order to prevent fraud.
It's about time we introduce a secure, tamper proof voter ID, like our neighbors to the South, in Mexico, are doing since 2004. It is difficult to believe that in our times a person can exist without an ID, for it’s necessary to get welfare benefits, food stamps, medicare benefits, unemployment benefits, even banking account. And many states issue FREE IDs….
"Mexico’s Instituto Federal Electoral (IFE) is an autonomous, non-partisan organization charged with ensuring free and fair elections.
In January, 2004, IFE entered into a four-year contract with Digimarc Corporation to design and supply secure, reliable voter ID cards to Mexican citizens in order to help ensure the ideal of “One Citizen, One Vote.”
In the years since then, nearly 25 million credentials have been produced and Mexico’s voter ID card is now widely regarded as one of the most secure, reliable voter identification systems in the world.
So trusted is the integrity of Mexico’s voter ID credential that amid all the controversy surrounding the close presidential election on July 2, 2006, no one questioned the security, reliability, or authenticity of Mexico’s voter identification itself.
Indeed, Mexico’s voter ID has become the country’s de facto identification document and is readily accepted as positive proof-of-identity by merchants, banks, government officials, and citizens nationwide."
It's my opinion that we should communicate to our elected representatives that it's time they ensure
One Citizen, One Vote, and implement Federal, tamper-proof, Voter ID, in ALL STATES.
The only reason for these Voter ID laws...
"Voter ID — which is going to allow governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania — done,"
In a few years whites are also going to be a minority in the US. If the GOP keeps alienating minority's
they will find themselves to be obsolete on a national level.
I have no issue with voter ID so long as voters are issued a free voter ID by the Registrar of voters. That would eliminate the issue of "discrimination" against those that can't afford the State ID costs.
JAMES, and what about those who do not possess a birth certificate???
And don't you find it odd that this suddenly became an issue right after the 2010 elections? I can't recall a single GOP candidate who made "voter fraud" an issue in during the campaign. The moment they get sworn it, suddenly we hear horror stories about rampant voter fraud and yet no one can produce documention to back these claims up with. For something that the Right claims is so common, I find it puzzling that no one can back these claims up with facts.
One Citizen, One Vote!
Recently, there's been a lot said about voter registration, voter fraud and voter ID.
Previously, the US Supreme Court ruled, in an Indiana case, that states can require photo identification from voters. Not only should all states require a voter ID, we need to ensure that only eligible US citizens vote in order to prevent fraud.
It's about time we introduce a secure, tamper proof voter ID, like our neighbors to the South, in Mexico, are doing since 2004. It is difficult to believe that in our times a person can exist without an ID, for it’s necessary to get welfare benefits, food stamps, medicare benefits, unemployment benefits, even banking account. And many states issue FREE IDs….
"Mexico’s Instituto Federal Electoral (IFE) is an autonomous, non-partisan organization charged with ensuring free and fair elections.
In January, 2004, IFE entered into a four-year contract with Digimarc Corporation to design and supply secure, reliable voter ID cards to Mexican citizens in order to help ensure the ideal of “One Citizen, One Vote.”
In the years since then, nearly 25 million credentials have been produced and Mexico’s voter ID card is now widely regarded as one of the most secure, reliable voter identification systems in the world.
So trusted is the integrity of Mexico’s voter ID credential that amid all the controversy surrounding the close presidential election on July 2, 2006, no one questioned the security, reliability, or authenticity of Mexico’s voter identification itself.
Indeed, Mexico’s voter ID has become the country’s de facto identification document and is readily accepted as positive proof-of-identity by merchants, banks, government officials, and citizens nationwide."
It's my opinion that we should communicate to our elected representatives that it's time they ensure
One Citizen, One Vote, and implement Federal, tamper-proof, Voter ID, in ALL STATES.
Anyone who doesn't think all these Voter ID laws are a pretext attempt to suppress minority, young, and eldery votes (all of which are predominately democratic), is an a$$hole plain and simple.
And you are a paranoid liberal. My God will you "taxers" give it up.
If someone doesn't have proper ID when voting, how do you think they are going to get caught? That and only that is why the percentage is supposedly low on fraud. If you have enough to convince and they can't dig any deeper, how they gonna prove you are at your third polling place. All you need is the name and address of a deceased or relocated person still on the voting rolls.
Voter ID laws are the new Jim Crow and Poll Tax and Poll Literacy Test laws of the 21st Century!
Oh and South Carolina was giving the ID for free as well as transporting so anyone who didn't have the means could get one.
TALK, this is news to me. Free transporation for anyone in need of an I.D.? Sounds awfully enlightened coming from the land of Dixie. You are aware of course that many Blacks (and some poor whites) born in the Jim Crow South were never issued birth certificates, thus complicating the issue further.
Since when did this issue become such a pressing matter? I'll repeat my challenge, please show me at least several documented instances of real fraud, NOT clerical errors which are common and these laws do nothing to combat that issue. Funny how the moment the GOP won governorships in 2010 this became a pressing issue, particularly since not a one of them ever campaigned on this as an issue.
You are aware that the Bush Justice Dept conducted an in depth, long term investigation, expecting to uncover rampant fraud, only having to admit that they found virtually no instances of fraud, contrary to their expectations.
This is not a big deal. I need to present an ID to get my library card...so what. BTW - I grew up in the inner city like my tag indicates. everyone I know has either a state ID or drivers license...again, no big deal.
DUDE, you must run with a fancy inner city crowd. Estimates are that nearly 1 in 10 does not possess a suitable I.D. This is a solution in search of a problem. Am still waiting to hear about documented cases of this "rampant" voter fraud.
Then help get all those that do not have an ID to get one.. Idiot
The feds approve of state law on how to pick them..? How nice of them.
I remember back in the 60s in high school there was this kid who for $5 would make you a fake drivers license to get into bars to drink. It looked exactly like the real thing and it worked. Now flash forward to 2012 with graphic media computers that can fake almost any document. Voter ID cards can be mass produced and fool anyone. The obvious down side of voter ID cards is it gives officials a false sense of security. Whats to stop my high school friend back in the 60s from really doing a job with voter ID cards today. I think voter ID cards have the potential of making voter fraud even worse.
One Citizen, One Vote!
Recently, there's been a lot said about voter registration, voter fraud and voter ID.
Previously, the US Supreme Court ruled, in an Indiana case, that states can require photo identification from voters. Not only should all states require a voter ID, we need to ensure that only eligible US citizens vote in order to prevent fraud.
It's about time we introduce a secure, tamper proof voter ID, like our neighbors to the South, in Mexico, are doing since 2004. It is difficult to believe that in our times a person can exist without an ID, for it’s necessary to get welfare benefits, food stamps, medicare benefits, unemployment benefits, even banking account. And many states issue FREE IDs….
"Mexico’s Instituto Federal Electoral (IFE) is an autonomous, non-partisan organization charged with ensuring free and fair elections.
In January, 2004, IFE entered into a four-year contract with Digimarc Corporation to design and supply secure, reliable voter ID cards to Mexican citizens in order to help ensure the ideal of “One Citizen, One Vote.”
In the years since then, nearly 25 million credentials have been produced and Mexico’s voter ID card is now widely regarded as one of the most secure, reliable voter identification systems in the world.
So trusted is the integrity of Mexico’s voter ID credential that amid all the controversy surrounding the close presidential election on July 2, 2006, no one questioned the security, reliability, or authenticity of Mexico’s voter identification itself.
Indeed, Mexico’s voter ID has become the country’s de facto identification document and is readily accepted as positive proof-of-identity by merchants, banks, government officials, and citizens nationwide."
It's my opinion that we should communicate to our elected representatives that it's time they ensure
One Citizen, One Vote, and implement Federal, tamper-proof, Voter ID, in ALL STATES.
A drivers license ID is not enough. Foreign visitors can get a drivers license because they will have a passport. A voter Id that identifies your picture, your name, and state residence... Tax Id to prove you pay taxes, and a date associated with the election, proof that you voted would go a long way in establishing an identity of an individual. But, look at what the individual is giving up! It seems that all solutions to prevent fruad require the person to give up some rights. On the other hand, if government benefits required this id, and laws were written to grant privillages based on the current ID, then maybe we could prevent fraud in other programs... just a thought!
What fraud?... maybe 10 cases of fraud out of the millions were found ..and found to be honest mistakes. Get over yourselves Rebulipukes. You know the only way you can win is to jerry rig everything. Maybe you could release a sleeping gas in the poor neighborhoods during election day. Although, even if you did that - there still are not enough brainless Dumbos and Stepford wives to elect "elevator-ass Romney"
You can't change the rules right before an election... unless they start handing out voter ID cards immediately. Who do you think your fooling
This video sums it up:
The Voting Rights Act has outlive its usefulness and needs to go away.
So just screw voters rights, right Bob? Maybe we should take your right to vote away. Why? Because you can't spell.
How many different health care programs do we need?
According to CMS, the Medicaid program provided health care services to more than 46.0 million people in 2001.[12][13] In 2002, Medicaid enrollees numbered 39.9 million Americans, the largest group being children [14] (18.4 million or 46 percent). Some 43 million Americans were enrolled in 2004 (19.7 million of them children) at a total cost of $295 billion. In 2008, Medicaid provided health coverage and services to approximately 49 million low-income children, pregnant women, elderly people, and disabled people. In California, about 23% of the population was enrolled in Medi-Cal for at least 1 month in 2009-10.[15]
Medicaid payments currently assist nearly 60 percent of all nursing home residents and about 37 percent of all childbirths in the United States. The federal government pays on average 57 percent of Medicaid expenses.
Loss of income and medical insurance coverage during the 2008-2009 recession resulted in a substantial increase in Medicaid enrollment in 2009. Nine U.S. states showed an increase in enrollment of 15% or more, resulting in heavy pressure on state budgets.[16]