Obama courts Virginia in last pre-convention stop

NORFOLK, VA -- President Barack Obama exhorted Virginians for their votes on Tuesday at his last campaign event before the Democratic National Convention this week in Charlotte.

Speaking at a rally in Norfolk, Va., President Obama says he'll try not to let his daughters see him cry tonight as he watches the first lady's speech at the Democratic National Convention. Watch his entire speech.

Previewing the speech he is set to deliver at the convention on Thursday night, the president said: "I will offer what I believe is a better path forward. A path that will create good jobs and strengthen our middle class and grow our economy."

Obama pointed to the policy changes he has made regarding health care, national security and the economy as reasons voters should give him a second term in office.

But the president also used his appearance in Norfolk to criticize the proposals of his Republican opponents as well.

“On issue after issue, Gov. Romney and Congressman Ryan, they want to take us backwards. But the story of America is not about going backwards; its about going forwards,” the president said to a cheering crowd.

The Romney Campaign was quick to respond to the president’s speech. Spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg said in a statement: "President Obama has found himself on the wrong side of the issues Virginian’s care about the most." The Romney campaign went on to say that “there is no doubt that Americans aren’t better off today than they were four years ago."

Mr. Obama’s speech at Norfolk State University comes only hours before his wife is scheduled to deliver a prime-time address tonight from the convention hall in North Carolina.

Mr. Obama said he would watch the speech at the White House with his two daughters.

Calling the first lady, “the star of the Obama Family,” the president said he would try not to let his daughters see him cry while she speaks.  But went on to acknowledge that may be difficult to do, saying, “When Michelle starts talking, I start getting all misty.”

The crowd at Norfolk State was made up predominately of African American college students, two key segments of his political base whom Mr. Obama hopes to re-energize and rally in the next eight weeks before the election. Twice during his remarks when the audience booed as he spoke about Governor Romney, the president responded, “Don’t boo, vote.”

The rally in Norfolk was the second trip to Virginia made by the president in less than a week. Recent polling suggests that Obama and Romney are statistically tied in the commonwealth, and, as a result, both men have dedicated tons of resources and made frequent visits to the state, hoping to capture its thirteen electoral votes this November. Governor Romney also traveled to Norfolk last month to announce Rep. Paul Ryan as his running mate.

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1. President Obama wants to END tax breaks for multinationals that ship jobs overseas.
The President proposes tax breaks for companies bringing jobs back home.

2. By contrast, Mitt Romney's plan would create 800K jobs OVERSEAS.
Romney's plan continues to protect & reward corporations that offshore American jobs: Not being required to pay taxes on overseas profits, provides extra motivation for companies to move overseas -- where the jobs created in China for example, will undercut American wages, end our jobs, take money out of circulation in the U.S. and hurt our economic recovery.

Romney's plan would cut all taxes on American companies with foreign profits, with nothing owing, until profits are brought back into this country. Under Mitt Romney, for the first time ever, a US company could go overseas and never pay a single dime in taxes on profits generated.

If profits made overseas are non-taxable in America, then that invites folks to divvy up the books - and make the case that their corporations' profits were made overseas. This ends up depriving the US of revenues and hurting the deficit down the line, as well as increasing taxes on small business and we, the 99%.

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#1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:49 PM EDT
Comment author avatarF6ZmanExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Impeach Barack Obama!

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#1.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

Impeach Barack Obama!

...because...?

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#1.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

You people are some what crazy.

"NOT ALL CONSERVATIVES ARE STUPID, BUT MOST STUPID PEOPLE ARE CONSERVATIVES..." John Stuart Mill.

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#1.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

Come on Da Noid. I, for one find it inspirational that even the most challenged individuals can access the Internet. Cut F6Z some slack!

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#1.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:00 PM EDT
Comment author avatarF6ZmanExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

@Da Noid Because he's done Nothing besides Abused His powers, broke the Constitution and just has done nothing good. And all his Supporters like Him because 1. He's black. 2. He acts nice on the Camera, can sing and has his own Beer Recipe. 3. They Believe his Lies.

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#1.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

Gary Johnson 2012! Libertarian!

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

@Da Noid Because he's done Nothing besides Abused His powers, broke the Constitution and just has done nothing good.

Uh...well, it's nice that you think that, but, you see, the Constitution spells it out pretty succinctly...

"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."

So, shall we try this again?

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#1.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

Al, one of my favorite posts of the day . . . (so far!)

Come on Da Noid. I, for one find it inspirational that even the most challenged individuals can access the Internet

And I'm game, F6ZMan ...

broke the Constitution

Would love your source on that one assuming your internet skills include fact-checking . . .

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#1.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:15 PM EDT

"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."

That sounds like the crimes that W Bush and VP Dick committed.

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#1.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:42 PM EDT

How about some detail f6zman. What powers did he abuse? Just how has he broke the Constitution? I guess you are calling saving millions of jobs and the auto industry is nothing good.

I don't like President Obama because of his color. He could be green for all I care, I voted for his brains. He has shown himself to be quite capable.

Acts nice on camera? You mean he doesn't go to other countries and get nicknames like Mitt the twit because he is so clueless?

I can sing, does that mean I will be president someday?

Point out a lie you think I believe. But a lie is not about closing GITMO as the republicans blocked the closing. So if you are upset GITMO is still open you should talk to the republicans who kept it open. It is like I said I was going to walk down the street and then the street was blown up, I wasn't lying, that was my intention just that circumstances beyond me kept me from walking down the street.

A lie is like Ryan voting against the stimulus and then writing and asking for funds from the stimulus and then lying about it when asked if he asked for stimulus funds and Ryan said no. With the extra lie after caught asking for stimulus funds after saying he didn't, that it was his staff's fault and they did it without his knowledge and then fooled Ryan into signing the letters. If that was true about his staff I don't think Ryan is smart enough to be vice president.

Or an out and out lie about taking the work requirement out of welfare by giving the governors more leeway in their own states when Romney was governor he signed letters and ask for the same leeway that in no way took out the work requirement. But it was a good hate speech and riled up the base willing to believe any lie from Romney.

Or how about an out and out lie where Romney claimed he was filing taxes in Massachusetts to run for governor but instead was filing in Utah for a tax break and when found out he was lying had to retroactively go back and file state taxes in Massachusetts to be eligible run for Governor.

VOTE FOR WOMEN'S FREEDOM...VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012

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#1.10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

Da Noid and Layton - I'm surprised F6Zman isn't stomping his feet and saying "impeach him because I want it!!!!" OMG - where does the GOP come up with these misfits???

And is followed right behind by Hedley - does it get any funnier????

Obama/Biden 2012

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#1.12 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

does it get any funnier????

the real fun begins once you start posting. Seeking living prop for the DARE program

    #1.13 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

    Hedley, you clearly have no idea of what falsifiability is. It isn't lying in politics. It isn't lying at all.

    It's an empirical (that means it can be measured) scientific method of testing a theory. For instance, you can say (i.e. - propose a theory) that "all cocoons make butterflies." By observation you can see (and measure) that some cocoons make moths. Therefore you proved the theory "false."

    You are correct, Progressive use scientific methods to test theories. That means (where applicable) we test falsifiability. This is good as it means we actually apply measureable and testable value statements to proposed policies.

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    #1.14 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:53 PM EDT

    F6Z

    You might want to reconsider the Libertarian thing. They were the ones who gave their passes to Left wingers who attempted to disrupt and scourge republicans, because they didn't get their own way at the convention.

    The Republicans only required the tickets, no photo ID. Interestingly, the democrat conventions requires a photo ID, and you must show it 3 times plus your ticket to get in. And the Democrats don't want voter ID at the polls?

      #1.15 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

      Obama's so addicted to campaigning (he's been doing it for 3 years -- hasn't had time to meet with his Jobs Committee once in the last 8 months) that he is unable to pull himself away to go to his own convention. Maybe, if he is reelected, with no hope of a third term, he might stop the campaigning and do some work. Then again, he may just increase his golf and vacationing at taxpayer expense.

        #1.16 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:18 PM EDT

        Gil,

        Obama's so addicted to campaigning (he's been doing it for 3 years -- hasn't had time to meet with his Jobs Committee once in the last 8 months) that he is unable to pull himself away to go to his own convention

        What are you smoking??????? Mittens has been campaigning for at least 6 and still can't figure out what he stands for! The President's speech on Thursday night is going to blow Mitten's silly "love me for who I am" into dust!!!

          #1.17 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:21 PM EDT

          Gil - gee, you think that's because the Jobs Committee hasn't met publicly since January 2012 and that he chooses not to meet with them behind closed doors (as has been stated many times) in order to provide a measure of transparency in the process (as was promised)? Maybe THAT'S why it's been 8 months . . .

            #1.18 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:28 PM EDT
            Reply

            “there is no doubt that Americans aren’t better off today than they were four years ago."

            Is this some kind of telepathic message from the Romney camp to try and convince us we're not better off? Sorry, it's just not working - I can listen to campaign slogans from the right, or I can check my 401K balance.

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            Reply#2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

            I remember 1-20-09, wondering if we were going to have another Great Depression as a result of Republican policies. The road back has been long, painful and we have a ways to go but we are definietly better off.

            • 17 votes
            #2.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

            Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital

            By Matt Taibbi, August 29, 2012 7:00 AM ET

            A man makes a $250 million fortune loading up companies with debt and then extracting million-dollar fees from those same companies, in exchange for the generous service of telling them who needs to be fired in order to finance the debt payments he saddled them with in the first place. That same man then runs for president riding an image of children roasting on flames of debt, choosing as his running mate perhaps the only politician in America more pompous and self-righteous on the subject of the evils of borrowed money than the candidate himself. If Romney pulls off this whopper, you'll have to tip your hat to him: No one in history has ever successfully run for president riding this big of a lie.

            http://Bruce-1628250.newsvine.com/_news/2012/09/04/13660654-greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital

            • 4 votes
            #2.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:13 PM EDT
            Reply

            Romney would take us backward to:

            the good old Bush days

            the last century

            trickle down economics

            cold war with Russia

            insurance companies dropping you for pre-existing conditions

            back alley abortions

            deregulation of Wall St

            Please add yours to the list!

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            Reply#3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

            To paraphrase George Thorogood, one war 'aint enough jack you better make it three.

            Add wars with Iran and Syria* to the one we have with Afghanistan.

            *or a country to be named later in place of Syria

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            #3.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

            we never left the bush days. We have tax cuts, afgahn, patriot act, gitmo. So Sueb1 I take you didnt fair well in history.

            Hey Al since youre a diplomatic genius do you think O will take a Clinton approach and ignore it and hope it goes away or do you think we see boots on the ground? You know he has his shiny peace prize for saying the word peace.

            • 1 vote
            #3.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

            Caesar--we also have regulation of Wall St, higher stock market, millions more with insurance, housing market seems to be coming back, and our men and women in uniform are no longer dying in Iraq-the war we were lied into...republicans love to rewrite history...that does make it harder for the rest of us.

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            #3.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

            Sueb1,

            Didn't you know? All recorded history began on January 20, 2009. Absolutely nothing happened before that.

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            #3.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

            sure Noid our historian would know. That depends on who you're gonna blame noid, you guys think history stopped on 1-20-09. Sueb1 speaking of Higher, we have higher debt, unemployment and lower GDP. Yes things are great because of Obamao, why doesnt he run on his record then? Why is he not talking about it? Did Bush/repubs/teaparty prevent him from running on his record. Oh wait I know, we can say since 2011 things started to pick up because of the Republican dominated H.O.R.

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            #3.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

            Da Noid

            At least according to them nothing bad happened before then and nothing good has happened since then.......when did the GOP go crazy?

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            #3.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

            ...which explains why we heard SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much at last week's Republican Convention about "The 43rd President of the United States" ("He Who Must Not Be Named").

            Where was that dude, anyway?

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            #3.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:33 PM EDT

            hey noid, lame duck amendment right, so you know Bush can't run again.

            Bush doesnt need the spotlight like Barry Kardashian Noid. you know Obamao will be on American Idol and dances with the stars. Real class act there.

              #3.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

              Look it up and you find that there are more bear markets under Republican Administrations and more Bull markets under Democrat Administrations. The bulls have been picking up speed on Wall Street these days. Our retirement funds are feeling a bit more plump these days. The recovery has been slow but after a train derails it takes time to get it back on track and roaring along again. It is now back on track and slowly building up steam to chug along faster and faster in the near future.

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              #3.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

              To all my conservatives:

              Which of you make over $250K? If you do, you have the right to complain about the tax increase, but it is a drop in a bucket for most.

              Why do you believe the lies concerning welfare? Because most of you equate welfare with black faces. Last time I checked there are more whites than blacks in the USA which means more whites on welfare then blacks. Do the math (if you can).

              Why do you want to pay more taxes to help someone wealthy instead of someone in need? Don't get me wrong I do not want any freeloading on me, but I am not willing to help someone making 100Xs I make, but assist someone willing to get off their behind and go to work.

              The bottom line is most conservative Americans are lazy especially the 1%. I say this because the conservatives are both social and fiscal conservative. They want to stick with Jim Crow way of doing things: if you look, act a certain way you are this. I see myself as a social liberal and fiscal conservative and their are those who are social conservative and fiscal liberal. Have any conservative ever pictured people being diverse in those aspects? No, because that is too much work to verify one's views on this natiion. The 1% don't like work just like the founding fathers who had the slaves to do all the work and they rake in all the profits. Yes I said it and I have to because when you work for an organization who at one point did not charge the customer for labor this is a slap in the face to all laborers from the founding of this natiion all the way up until today.

              Everything with conservatives is about profit:

              Sending jobs to China and India to folks making $5 per week

              Dislike ACA, could it be we could negotiate our salaries to where an organization does not have to pay health benefits?

              Privatizing prisons paying $0.05 per hour for inmates to make parts for profit organizations.

              All about profit!

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              #3.10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

              Caesar - Once again - for love of God - STFU!

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              #3.12 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:23 PM EDT

              Hedley,

              Is 69 the year you were born or the position you have to be in to get the inside track from Romney and the Koch Brothers to beat the tax system?

              So if I'm hearing you correctly it is ok for you to beat the system but someone who gets welfare and don't need it is wrong? I thought being truthful was the name of the game with the conservatives especially the religious, but the religious right and left is about the same thing profit. Also, like those conservatives and liberals, you all are worried about yourself(your response to mine). As a Christian, I believe in the values of Christ who said to serve others before serving self, but again all about you, Satan.

              As an engineer, I know the components to make a system effective and efficient: manpower, machinery, method, material, and waste controlled to an extent to where the cost does not exceed the profit. Apparently you have no f*****g clue, prostitute for tax loop holes. One thing I have always witnessed during my career has been when one says, "We need standard conditions(rules, laws)," most individuals shake in their boots. Why? The majority usually looks at rules/laws has hindering the progress. Could it be that the majority has always known to create rules/laws to get minorities out? I think so. The goal for any organization is to continuously improve the business with the times. This includes our government and our Constitiution or standard conditions.

                #3.13 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:12 PM EDT
                Reply

                Like Romney cares if we are better off today. He only cares about his next tax cut and he doesn't care how many wounded veterans lose their care or how many American children go to bed hungry.

                He wants to take us back to the good old days of September 2008. Remember our economy was crashing around us and losing millions of jobs. We had to bail out the banks for billions of dollars just to keep from crashing the entire world.

                Those are the policies that Romney/Ryan want to return to. Being they believe in the pretend, invisible President Obama with a time machine that they want to blame for the conditions the republicans left our country just 4 years ago this same month of September.

                The real President Obama was elected and took office in January 2009, did not crash the economy and did not cause the auto plant to go away in Ryan's state and per loony cowboy actor accusations, did not start the war in Afghanistan and the republicans kept GITMO open, did not end the work requirements for welfare and did not take money from medicare, but instead strengthened it and extended medicare for 8 years.

                VOTE FOR EDUCATION...VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012

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                Reply#4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:08 PM EDT

                Of course Romney doesn't care about the answer to the question, "Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago."

                When it comes to the guys bankrolling his campaign and his SuperPACs, of course the answer is "yes".

                • 7 votes
                #4.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                so who's bank rolling O? Having trouble these days with the money? Presidentin's hard

                  #4.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

                  DaNoid,

                  And if we see Romney's tax returns from 2007,2008,2009,

                  we would know how he will answer his own question.

                  • 4 votes
                  #4.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

                  Your right being president is hard and that is why we don't need to let Romney anywhere near the white house.

                  Romney isn't even honest enough to show us his tax returns to prove he is the kind of businessman he claims to be. And Ryan personally voted for every policy that brought America to her knees. All the tax cuts and unpaid for wars that drove our deficit to the largest in our history.

                  Just how do the daring duo plan on saving America why with more and bigger tax cuts and more war. Lets just return to the bush days and how wonderful it was before President Obama was elected and ruined our economy. Never you mind about the truth. Right Caesar?

                  • 5 votes
                  #4.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

                  Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital

                  By Matt Taibbi, August 29, 2012 7:00 AM ET

                  Four years ago, the Mitt Romneys of the world nearly destroyed the global economy with their greed, shortsightedness and – most notably – wildly irresponsible use of debt in pursuit of personal profit. The sight was so disgusting that people everywhere were ready to drop an H-bomb on Lower Manhattan and bayonet the survivors. But today that same insane greed ethos, that same belief in the lunatic pursuit of instant borrowed millions – it's dusted itself off, it's had a shave and a shoeshine, and it's back out there running for president.

                  http://Bruce-1628250.newsvine.com/_news/2012/09/04/13660654-greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital

                  • 2 votes
                  #4.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

                  Lets just return to the bush days and how wonderful it was before President Obama was elected and ruined our economy.

                  wow, simply astounding in Libtopia. Lets see high unemployment, record debt and climbing low GDP. We have Afgah, patriot act, Drone attacks, gitmo, tax cuts and you think its all Bushes fault. Nevermind the truth right Comrade First

                  When does Obama get to start being president and when is he get to take the blame for what happens on his watch. Oh Wait, GM Bid Laden.

                    #4.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:46 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    If Barack Hussein Obama had kept his campaign
                    promises, he would have closed the Guantanamo
                    Bay detention center. Two thousand of the worst
                    terrorists in the world would be eating
                    American food on American tables in air conditioned
                    comfort on Rykers Island in NY City. If left to
                    Biden and Obama, they would be watching cable
                    television and waiting twenty years for their
                    lawyers' motions and objections to clear the
                    American judicial system, before they ever saw a day
                    in court.

                    If left to Barack Obama and Joe Biden, District
                    Attorneys wouldn't be able to interview Sheik Khalid
                    Mohammed and the terrorists without their lawyers
                    present, to say nothing of FBI and CIA
                    interrogation. If left to Biden and Obama, Mohammed
                    would never have given the CIA the name of the
                    Kuwaiti who lead them to bin Laden. Over the
                    strident objections of Barack Obama, Joe Biden and
                    the entire Democratic Party, Guantanamo remains
                    open, Mohammed was interrogated and did give up the
                    Kuwaiti, and the Navy Seals, despite the objections
                    of Biden, Obama and all the Democrats, took out
                    Osama bin Laden.

                    If Barack Obama had been President of the United
                    States on 9/11, Saddam Hussein would still be
                    running Iraq, the Taliban would still be running
                    Afghanistan, and the United States would still be
                    running from Osama bin Laden.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

                    If those terrorists were in Ryker's Island, do you think any of them would still be alive. I know New Yorkers who would break the law just to get in there and do the job. And if you think there's a lot of comfort to be had there, you've been misinformed. As for the last bit you write about Osama Bin Laden you are just absolutely wrong. According to the CIA people I've heard, Mohammed did not not give up the information due to waterboarding. Bush, who I remind you said "I don't care where Bin Laden is; I don't care if he's dead or alive". Obama did care---Osama is dead. IF Bush had given the order to get Osama, you guys would have named him king; but, you won't even give Obama any credit at all....it's disgraceful and you should be ashamed.

                    • 7 votes
                    #5.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

                    Nice "Cut 'n' Paste".

                    If Barack Hussein Obama had kept his campaign
                    promises, he would have closed the Guantanamo
                    Bay detention center. Two thousand of the worst
                    terrorists in the world would be eating
                    American food on American tables in air conditioned
                    comfort on Rykers Island in NY City. If left to
                    Biden and Obama, they would be watching cable
                    television and waiting twenty years for their
                    lawyers' motions and objections to clear the
                    American judicial system, before they ever saw a day
                    in court.

                    Even the most comfortable of prisons is still a prison. By the way, I personally have heard many words used about Rikers Island. "Comfortable" is not one of them. Now, you may not like the nuances of our judicial system, but as a whole, what do you have against it? Do you have such little faith in it that it must be usurped altogether? The bottom line remains that we have a Constitution that says how this country shall conduct its business and the Gitmo detainees are being denied the due process that the Constitution says they must be given...and don't give me this "They're Not Citizens" argument because it's bogus.

                    If left to Barack Obama and Joe Biden, District
                    Attorneys wouldn't be able to interview Sheik Khalid
                    Mohammed and the terrorists without their lawyers
                    present, to say nothing of FBI and CIA
                    interrogation. If left to Biden and Obama, Mohammed
                    would never have given the CIA the name of the
                    Kuwaiti who lead them to bin Laden. Over the
                    strident objections of Barack Obama, Joe Biden and
                    the entire Democratic Party, Guantanamo remains
                    open, Mohammed was interrogated and did give up the
                    Kuwaiti, and the Navy Seals, despite the objections
                    of Biden, Obama and all the Democrats, took out
                    Osama bin Laden.

                    If "The 43rd President of the United States" was still in charge...if John McCain was elected...and even if Mitt Romney was elected...we would still be speaking of Osama bin Laden in the present tense and not the past tense because all three individuals I just named went on record to say they would not enter Pakistan to get bin Laden...FACT!

                    If Barack Obama had been President of the United
                    States on 9/11, Saddam Hussein would still be
                    running Iraq, the Taliban would still be running
                    Afghanistan, and the United States would still be
                    running from Osama bin Laden.

                    Uh...yeah...so, you do know that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11, yes? I'm just kinda curious why you would choose to bring that up. Bottom line is that President Obama was not President during 9/11. Instead, we had "The 43rd President of the United States" in charge...just as he was in charge when all of a sudden our economy got crumpled up and tossed in the hopper.

                    Now, you want us to elect Mitt Romney, also a Republican. That's like firing the entire Fire Department because you didn't like the job they did trying to put out the fire and giving their jobs to the gang of arsonists who started the fire in the first place.

                    • 4 votes
                    #5.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

                    I know New Yorkers who would break the law just to get in there and do the job.

                    ...not to mention that there would be plenty of Corrections Officers who I'm sure would gladly turn a blind eye to one of those detainees getting the business end of a shiv.

                    • 3 votes
                    #5.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

                    Da Noid,

                    Good point about Hussein, I should have mentioned that too!

                    • 2 votes
                    #5.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

                    Jerry - what a useless post. I can do the "if" thing too:

                    If President Obama had been President on 9/11 - the World Trade Center would still be standing! The rest of your post is moot!

                    Obama/Biden 2012

                    • 5 votes
                    #5.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:35 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Obama offers Medicare, R/R offer vouchers. Seniors, if sick in the hospital be ready to be dumped to the sidewalk.

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:59 PM EDT

                    Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital

                    By Matt Taibbi, August 29, 2012 7:00 AM ET

                    Mitt Romney, it turns out, is the perfect frontman for Wall Street's greed revolution. He's not a two-bit, shifty-eyed huckster like Lloyd Blankfein. He's not a sighing, eye-rolling, arrogant jerkwad like Jamie Dimon. But Mitt believes the same things those guys believe: He's been right with them on the front lines of the financialization revolution, a decades-long campaign in which the old, simple, let's-make-stuff-and-sell-it manufacturing economy was replaced with a new, highly complex, let's-take-stuff-and-trash-it financial economy. Instead of cars and airplanes, we built swaps, CDOs and other toxic financial products. Instead of building new companies from the ground up, we took out massive bank loans and used them to acquire existing firms, liquidating every asset in sight and leaving the target companies holding the note.

                    http://Bruce-1628250.newsvine.com/_news/2012/09/04/13660654-greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:22 PM EDT

                    Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital

                    By Matt Taibbi, August 29, 2012 7:00 AM ET

                    Mitt Romney – a man whose own father built cars and nurtured communities, and was one of the old-school industrial anachronisms pushed aside by the new generation's wealth grab – has emerged now to sell this make-nothing, take-everything, screw-everyone ethos to the world. He's Gordon Gekko, but a new and improved version, with better PR – and a bigger goal. A takeover artist all his life, Romney is now trying to take over America itself. And if his own history is any guide, we'll all end up paying for the acquisition.

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                      Reply#9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:19 PM EDT

                      You people who have such a high opinion of Bain Capital and Romney at Bain are actually very ignorant. You have been fed a load of crap and swallowed it. Even Newt Gingrinch has exposed the TRUTH about Romney and Bain.

                      So, you don't want to read the Matt Taibbi article, because it would take too much effort I suppose. How about you watch a Newt Gingrich produced video. No effort at all. You just click on a couple links, sit back with your popcorn and beer and watch and learn. Can you do that? Or do you prefer to remain ignorant?

                      If you have the courage to do this, then watch the video described and available at this link

                      http://Bruce-1628250.newsvine.com/_news/2012/09/02/13615732-when-mitt-came-to-town

                      This could be the most valuable thing you do before deciding how to cast your vote for the President of The United States of America in 2012.

                      This could be the most important election you will ever cast a vote in, during your entire lifetime.

                      It's your choice. Vote informed or Vote ignorant. It's up to you.

                        Reply#10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:43 PM EDT

                        Bain aquired KB toys putting up 18 million and bringing in investors for the rest. They then borrowed the maximum they could on KB's assets, 65 million paying it as a special dividend solely to the Bain partners. After waiting the minimum time so a bankruptcy judge couldn't claw back the dividend they declared KB bankrupt citing excessive debt. Over 3700 KB employees lost their jobs and accrued benefits as well as suppliers who lost most of what they were owed as well as the other investors. Romney and his Bain partners though walked away with a 47 million dollar profit. Isn't capitalism great?

                          #10.1 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 3:36 AM EDT
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                          I want the President to come clean on the promises he made on the economy. The President said that the stimulus "did its job" but according to a report issued by the President's own administration, unemployment has been worse than if the stimulus had never been passed. What did we get from those shovel ready jobs that the stimulus paid for?

                          I want the President to discus the trade deficit that just keeps increasing. The federal government keeps trying to stimulate the economy by flooding it with cash but it all leaks our because such a high percentage of the goods and services that we buy come from foreign countries. The current administration has had no success in improving the situation.

                          The President went on and on as to how bad deficit spending was. Without conditions of any kind to include any act of congress, the President vowed to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. Well, this is the end of his first term. To keep the President's promise the federal deficit for this year, 2012, cannot exceed 229.27 billion dollars yet the President's own White House is predicting that the deficit will exceed 1.2 trillion dollars. The President also promised transparency. I want the President to explain what magic he is going to perform between now and the end of the fiscal year in order to keep his promise to the American people.

                          I estimate that the money the federal government is borrowing today will end up costing the tax payers more than 9 times the amount borrowed to repay over the next 170 years. That is just my estimate. I want the President to present a plan for repaying all of the money that it owes. The tax payers have a right to know how much all this federal borrowing is going to end up costing them.

                          The President needs to be reminded of some words of wisdom that were spoken back in March of 2006. The words are as true today as they were then.

                          The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies.

                          And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.

                          Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities. Instead,interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans–a debt tax that Washington doesn’t want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.

                          Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

                          ~ Senator B. H. Obama, March 2006

                            Reply#11 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 6:46 AM EDT

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                            Bush Jr. and Romney both are rich Harvard MBAs - Proof Businessmen Not Always Good Presidents / Gov Leaders

                              Reply#12 - Wed Sep 5, 2012 9:42 AM EDT
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