Obama camp on enthusiasm gap: 'No. Hell no'

Rep. Xavier Becerra talks about the role of Latino voters as well as the enthusiasm gap heading into the DNC.

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Enthusiasm gap, what enthusiasm gap? That’s at least what the Obama campaign claims.

On Day One of the Democratic National Convention, a top campaign official said the campaign does not accept the premise that the president has work to do in firing up young voters and Latinos, in particular.

“No. Hell no,” the official responded.

That's despite, as we wrote in First Thoughts this morning, "In the Aug. 2012 NBC/WSJ poll, just 52% of voters under 35 and only 49% of Latinos expressed high interest in the upcoming election, which was down about 20 points for both groups at this same point in ’08.”

Furthermore, key pro-Republican groups generally say they are more interested than those Democratic constituencies in this election on a scale of one to 10. 

Obama Senior Campaign Advisor Robert Gibbs join Andrea Mitchell Reports to preview day one of the DNC.

There's also a reason President Obama has campaigned on college campuses leading up to the convention, talking about student loans and urging students not to "boo," but "vote." 

There's a reason the president unveiled his immigration announcement earlier this year -- more than a year after the DREAM Act failed in Congress. He may believe it's the right thing to do, but Latinos are also a key political constituency. Obama still leads with Hispanics by almost 40 points in the NBC/WSJ/Telemundo poll, even wider that the gap that existed with John McCain.

The Obama official, however, cited that the campaign has hit a record level of voter registrations, door knocks and an improved grass-roots operation -- even over 2008. 

“We’re going to make ’08 look like Jurassic Park,” the official claimed, going on to cite that the Obama campaign has 100 offices in Ohio and Romney only has 30; 50 in North Carolina, and Romney has 20.

The Romney campaign would counter, though, that the Obama campaign needs a larger grass-roots operation because of the economic headwinds and polls showing lagging enthusiasm with those key pro-Democratic demographic groups.

David Goldman / AP

Democrats gather in Charlotte, N.C., to officially nominate President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden as the party's candidates for the 2012 presidential election.

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Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The only gap out there these days is the one between the ears of the GNOP & their supporters!

When push comes to shove, Democrats will deliver!

There is way too much at stake to stay home and hand this country back to those responsible to the economic crash in the first place...

Einstein once said; "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results".

  • 27 votes
#1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

Democrats have about as much enthusiasm as slugs. It will reflect come November.

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:51 PM EDT

Fired up and ready to VOTE! OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

The funny part about it is the Republicans really can't stand Mittens, and now they are STUCK with him as candidate!

  • 26 votes
#1.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

and how enthusiastic are the tea baggers about voting for etch a sketch? Romney is soooo all over the map depending on who he is talking to.

  • 17 votes
#1.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

Democrats have about as much enthusiasm as slugs

A parasite who is using MY tax dollars to support YOUR kids, has a lot of nerve calling anyone a slug!

Get off FR and LOOK FOR A J-O-B!

  • 21 votes
#1.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

Obamney 2012! More pointless Wars! More Lies! More National Debt! More Marxism!

But these Sheeple can't even Realize it, got to Pick a Side (Democrat and republican), but they are to Stupid to Realize the Two Parties are Mostly the Same, Both liars who Always Abuse their powers.

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

Einstein once said; "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results"

So why would you vote to reelect Obama, whose 4 years have been a massive failure by any objective measure? You will get more of the same: failure.

  • 11 votes
#1.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

So why would you vote to reelect Obama, whose 4 years have been a massive failure by any objective measure? You will get more of the same: failure.

Recovery Summer III

Recovery Summer IV

Recovery Summer V

Recovery Summer VI

  • 8 votes
#1.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

I wasn't aware of any positions open for those with an IQ lower than a 2 slice toaster

which can only mean that you & I will continue to support this excuse for a human .

They can Knee-Jerk all they want, cite polls & trends but the fact remains...

Bishop Brylcream Tin Man & Eddie Munster are NOT setting fires under any LIVING voters and the country is not ready to jump horses in the middle of the stream or the Recovery .

The SHINE on Mr.Greasy Hair was lost the day he strapped Seamus to the roof of the car .

I have yet to meet a dog owner who supports the animal abuser, there are 44.8 million of us that have the common sense to reject the faker/liar/greaseball..... expect US to carry the election for Obama !

  • 10 votes
#1.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

I don't happen to think he has been a failure........my family is better off and if you look at the numbers the country as a whole is better off too. Not perfect of course, but moving that way.

  • 11 votes
#1.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

About as fired up as Occutards and with the same results

  • 4 votes
#1.10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

Bob, I'll vote to reelect the President ... the ones I won't be voting for are those that have been hanging around Congress a wee bit too long .... noticed Virginia has a few . . . Frank Wolf to name one ... he was elected in 1980??????

  • 7 votes
#1.11 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

bob: I know this is a difficult concept for you.

The insanity would be voting for Romney, who is pledging to continue the Bush policies that got us into this mess.

Got it?

  • 12 votes
#1.12 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

typical Obama camp response. Just ignore, deny and pretend the problem doesn't exist. We'll see come November if American's are buying it anymore or not.

  • 4 votes
#1.13 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

" the campaign does not accept the premise that the president has work to do in firing up young voters"

Didn't they also choose to stick their heads in the sand before the November 2010 midterms?

Democrats had their chance to learn from their many, many mistakes.... instead they once again choose to pretend that reality doesn't affect them. This is going to be hillarious.

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

Reality doesn't affect them. They live off government handouts. The happiest place on the planet is Washington D.C. They don't understand what the fuss is all about. :)

  • 2 votes
#1.15 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:36 PM EDT
Comment author avatarMaxx PowerExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I just love how compassionate the liberal party is...

Feisty said,

"A parasite who is using MY tax dollars to support YOUR kids, has a lot of nerve calling anyone a slug!

Get off FR and LOOK FOR A J-O-B!"

This is moving forward??

I thought the "democrat party" always looks out for the working class, you know big tent people, loves everyone... hmmm, guess that only applies if your in a "certain" group!!

Feisty, you are a sad excuse for a human being... why don't you crawl back under your rock!!

The middle class can't afford 4 more!!

  • 1 vote
#1.16 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

The DNC is either not being honest about "the gap" or they are in complete denial. Four years ago they did not have to worry about busing in students to make sure all the seats were filled. Four years ago they were not having problems keeping up with their opponents in fund raising. It's obvious to everyone with a brain that the enthusiasm level is way down vs 4 years ago, and to pretend it isn't makes the DNC seem even more detached (if that's possible).

  • 2 votes
#1.17 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

hmmm, guess that only applies to a "certain" group!!

You're right!

It doesn't include misogynist, bigoted, homophobes who HATE the evil gubment but have no problem cashing unemployment checks...

If you hate social safety so much quit sucking them dry while bitching about them on FR!

What do they call people like that again?

Hmmm... oh yeah... HYPOCRITES!

  • 12 votes
#1.18 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

This just in: Today's CNN poll has Obama and Romney tied! Considering that they survey 60% Democrats to 40% republicans, that should concern Barry and the Boys. I am beginning to think that November will be a landslide refferendum on this failed liberal administration.

  • 1 vote
#1.19 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

The insanity would be voting for Romney, who is pledging to continue the Bush policies that got us into this mess.

because obamao has done a stellar job of getting us out of it? well when Bush was in office the economy was more stable and less unemployment. Gas was cheaper too (as well as many other things). Bush sucked no doubt but Obamao, LOL = Bush on roids.

    #1.20 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

    . . . and if you want to see how Myth Romney made (ie stole) all his millions in the first place, don't miss this:

      #1.21 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

      Don't let the Democrats fool you!

      Those of us who are voting a straight a Democrat Ticket are stalwart.

      We Obama supporters are resolved as to whom we are voting for and as far as we are concerned there is no chance we would do otherwise.

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 6 votes
      #1.22 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

      Truthseeker, Are you high? The last CNN poll taken has Obama ahead 49% to 46%. Ho whats this??? Its looks you posted the same thing a few days ago. Your a paid troll aren't you?

      • 3 votes
      #1.23 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:34 PM EDT
      Wilbert123Deleted

      Layton - When I lived in Virginia Frank Wolf was my Congressman even though I'm a Democrat I will give you one fact that I admired him for

      FRANK Wolf is ONE of a FEW REPUBLICANS THAT DID NOT SIGN the GROVER NORQUIST TAX PLEDGE

        #1.25 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

        Hey Wilbert123, how are things going with that Tea Toy party of yours in Tennessee? Let's see, you're 70 years old now, right? Pack those bags for Costa Rico yet? Time to sell that Glenn Beck "gold" you purchased and buy that plane ticket! Maybe you can bunk with Limbaugh! Tic, toc, tic, toc.. ;-)

        • 3 votes
        #1.26 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:29 PM EDT
        Reply

        ROFL - Enthusiasm gap? Not the Democrats... they are the most enthusiastic group of voters out there... ROFL!!!! My gosh, if their enthusiasm was dynamite, they wouldn't have enough to blow their noses.

        • 9 votes
        #2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

        BrianB - you need to put your head back in the sand where it has been. Everyone that I know that voted for Obama last election is pushing their hardest to give him another four years. I personally am more scared of this Republican party nominee than I was of Palin and that my friend was Scary with a Capital "S".

        I think R&R and their supports will be shocked by the turn out this year! Sorry!

        • 20 votes
        #2.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

        I agree voter, a guy who won't show his tax returns and hides money off shore? Who would want that kind of shady person in the oval office?

        • 18 votes
        #2.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

        What Romney does with his own personal money matters how?

        Obama is not what he was in 2008... he can't tell anyone what he will do to correct the economy... and that's what it will boil down to... liberals might as well get it planted in their brains... Obama is toast. People aren't going to vote on hope and change this time... fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, shame on me.

        • 12 votes
        #2.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

        BrainB -

        You are missing the point. We have no problem with individuals making millions of dollars - however we do have a problem with them hiding it off shore or possible illegal tax evasion - now I said possible "We don't know if he has or hasn't until he shows his tax returns" That my friend is called TRUST - Romney wants us to Trust him with the position and financial welfare of this country - then he needs to TRUST the American people with his financial statements.

        I sure he can't go into a bank and just say Trust me I am good for the lone - he has to provide detailed financial information. American people should expect nothing less.

        • 12 votes
        #2.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

        We have no problem with individuals making millions of dollars - however we do have a problem with them hiding it off shore or possible illegal tax evasion

        ok so you'll call out debbie wasserman schultz right

        • 3 votes
        #2.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

        Self Educated Voter - I'm sure those two other people you know won't make much of a difference on election day. Saying something like that is really stupid. I could say the same thing about voting against Obama, but what's the point in the statement. For as many people you know, I know as many people that aren't voting for him.

        I'm glad to see you support his lies... did Obama cut the deficit in half like he promised? Did he close Gitmo? Did he do anything he promised he would get accomplished? I'm not talking about signing insignificant items either. What happened to his promise that if he couldn't get this done it would be a one term proposition? Millions of shovel ready jobs... $1.2 Trillion in stimulus and Omnibus... Are their more people working today than there were when Obama was elected? What is the deal with 23 million people unemployed?

        Only liberals think he's done a good job. Then they will deflect everything to Bush... what about the 4 years of Obama... What has HE done to improve conditions...

        • 5 votes
        #2.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

        It is a long and honored tradition started by Romney's dad no less of all candidates making their tax status public. Romney is showing us the back of his hand, but be aware if you are voting for him, another Nixon is not what you want I promise.

        • 8 votes
        #2.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

        So did Wasserman refuse to make her tax returns public? I had not heard that.

        • 2 votes
        #2.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:20 PM EDT

        no, she's just a hypocrite lefty that has offshore accounts.

        Brian, define 'improve'. because libbies believe it something other than Webster Merriam have it defined as

        • 2 votes
        #2.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

        Self Educated Voter said:

        BrainB -

        You are missing the point. We have no problem with individuals making millions of dollars - however we do have a problem with them hiding it off shore or possible illegal tax evasion - now I said possible "We don't know if he has or hasn't until he shows his tax returns" That my friend is called TRUST

        I'm not missing anything. Romney could show every tax form he's ever filed and you wouldn't be satisfied. It's a political ploy to make him bow to your demands and he's not falling for it. Too bad, get over it. You wouldn't trust him no matter how good his tax forms were. Admit it... so what difference does it make if he shows them or not? When it all boils out, you are going to support Obama and his tax forms are nothing but a diversion to take the focus away from Obama's poor handling of the economy... which by the way, was supposed to be job one for him.

        • 5 votes
        #2.10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

        Caesar Augustus- said:

        We have no problem with individuals making millions of dollars - however we do have a problem with them hiding it off shore or possible illegal tax evasion

        ok so you'll call out debbie wasserman schultz right

        Forget her... what about Nancy Pelosi? She has offshore accounts... let's demand to see HER tax returns.

          #2.11 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

          is that all you welfare blood suckers have is tax returns? the debt just went over 16 trillion today. manufacturing has continued to collapse and all you care about is tax returns? no wonder you are all on welfare and food stamps. dolts.

          • 7 votes
          #2.12 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

          Yes the long honored Tradition that Kerry did not accommodate or McCain in 08 but it didnt madder then because ITS NOT Fing important except as a distraction

            #2.13 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

            The difference is brian, that Romney has made certain claims, both about his love for this country and his acumen as a business man, as well as how gosh darn wonderfully charitable he and Queen Ann are.

            So let's find out. How much are YOU paying brian to stable Annie's "therapy horse"? How well are those overseas accounts of his doing, and how much shelter from tax does it give Mittens?

            And how close to the legal line does he tread?

            I realize that those are all pretty complex things for you to think about, but Mitty owes show and tell time.

            If he doesn't, and he avoids the information that other candidates are giving, you know he is simply trying to hide something.

            • 7 votes
            #2.14 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

            I'm a young adult and I don't understand why anyone would vote for either of these two "candidates" (and I use that term lightly).

            Oh wait a minute, I forgot that we don't vote for those that deserve to be in office, but simply for the better of two evils. Tell you what, I will send over a male stripper and a male whore to take your daughter out for the night.....what? you say you wouldn't let her out the front door? Then why the hell does your country deserve anything different?

            • 3 votes
            #2.15 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

            Hey Newday you gonna chide about Romney's lack of military service? you did a week ago yet you never told me where you, Feisty or Obama served. talk about love of country, explain to me how Obamao loves this one? Im sure you'll have a real informative response.

              #2.16 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

              TO: Brianb-999431 who wrote:

              "What Romney does with his own personal money matters how?..."

              You're kiddin, right?

              Oh right!!! That crazy statement comes from the same fools who never learned or understood that when they put 2 oil men in the White House, those 2 guys were going to take over the 2nd largest oil fields in the world, IN IRAQ! And they surely did, and no one or nothing was able to stop them!!!

              Now Republicans want to elect a JOBS CREMATOR that will just as surely liquidate American Jobs and ship them overseas because THAT is how Romney made his millions, just like Bush & Cheney made their millions drilling oil!!!

              Mitt Romney came in 47th out of 50 in jobs creation, which means 46 OTHER states were able to create jobs while Romney was NOT!

              Oh yes it matters, it really, really, really matters!

              Obama/Biden 2012

              • 4 votes
              #2.17 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

              NewDayDawning said:

              The difference is brian, that Romney has made certain claims, both about his love for this country and his acumen as a business man, as well as how gosh darn wonderfully charitable he and Queen Ann are. So what? Something tells me he can make those claims because his faith does require certain charitable acts... unlike Obama that thinks people owe him charitable acts. Maybe you have no clue as to what his faith is all about. Any clue you have, you'd be critical of anyway.

              So let's find out. How much are YOU paying brian to stable Annie's "therapy horse"? How well are those overseas accounts of his doing, and how much shelter from tax does it give Mittens? I pay nothing for Romney. He pays what he pays and I pay what I pay. The two are not intertwined. I try to pay the least amount I can legally. I'll bet you do too.

              And how close to the legal line does he tread? I don't care if he takes it right up to the molecule of the ink on that line. I know you would too.

              I realize that those are all pretty complex things for you to think about, but Mitty owes show and tell time. Romney owes you nothing... because you aren't going to vote for him. I can't see how you think he should give you anything, including information that he's not giving everyone else.

              If he doesn't, and he avoids the information that other candidates are giving, you know he is simply trying to hide something. I don't see it that way... like you don't see Obama holding his educational, health and personal records as hiding anything. You are just using this as a crutch to foment your hatred for anyone but Obama.

              • 3 votes
              #2.18 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

              American Girl... considering your response then you'd have no trouble spelling out all your finances to me, correct? I mean, that's what you are asking of Romney. What's fair for the goose is fair for the gander... so start telling me all about how much you make, what you pay in taxes, social security, what your house note is, etc, etc...

              See how easy it is to bust a hole in your theory?

              Tell me how you can create jobs when your unemployment was 4.3%. Mass was one of the lowest in the nation when he was governor... what room do you have to create jobs in an almost perfect working environment.

              You really have to stop listening to talking points that are meaningless.

                #2.19 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

                Brianb. Thx. Finally someone sensible.

                • 1 vote
                #2.20 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

                Self Educated

                Romney's wealth has been in a "blind" trust since 2002 when he became governor of Massachusetts. If you see one of his returns after 2002, you have seen them all, and any changes are the administrators decisions, not his. I.E. If there is anything illegal, he didn't even do it!

                Your point is pointless!

                • 1 vote
                #2.21 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

                I'm not missing anything. Romney could show every tax form he's ever filed and you wouldn't be satisfied. It's a political ploy to make him bow to your demands and he's not falling for it.

                But here we are Brian, still talking about it (chuckle). Not releasing his returns HAS HURT HIM. Its a fact. It doesnt matter what YOU think about it Brian, Americans think he is hiding something. Continuiing to fuel the rumor by not releasing them just perpetuates.

                Funny that here you are weeks after the issue surfaced, and you are still in a defensive crouch....because Romney wont put it to rest by releasing the returns......the issue is hurting him..... Mission Accomplished!

                • 4 votes
                #2.22 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:03 PM EDT

                Teddy Kennedy gives me the creeps for leaving that poor girl in a car to drown at Chappaquiddick, while he saved his sorry self.

                Others laugh, and make jokes. She had a right to live.

                • 2 votes
                #2.23 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

                Brian, Queen Ann is taking a tax write off on that horse to the tune of 77,000 dollars. It is being made up somewhere, which means we ALL pay more.

                I realize that you think that your logic is second to none: but pay close attention brian:

                If I were running for President, I would disclose my taxes for at least 10 years. Mittens IS running and must do the same. If he doesn't want to do that, he has the option of being a private citizen. He did not make that choice.

                Brian, you seem to have a lot of time on your hands... I would recommend a logic class at your local community college.

                • 1 vote
                #2.24 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 8:29 PM EDT

                The deduction is legal. Take it up with Congress. Let us see Pelosi's returns.

                • 1 vote
                #2.25 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:06 PM EDT

                let us see ALL of obama's hidden records!!

                News today...obama is "struggling" with the question of ARE U BETTER OFF NOW OR 4 YR. AGO!!

                That is a yes or no question!! How do you struggle with a yes or no question??

                Clint Eastwood summed it all up in 10 minutes!! No One can afford another 4 years of this Craziness!!

                BozoHussan==NBC=GE= Chicago MOBpolitics=lie,cheat, steal ,twist every crises to benefit your Pravda Press PROPAGANDA!!

                • 1 vote
                #2.26 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:39 PM EDT
                Reply

                If Romney wins because people are too lazy to vote (or prevented by new laws passed to suppress the vote!) then they will pay a steep price when they grow old - a dismantled Medicare system, their student loan rates going up, and they will inherit a a heated planet, or they may get called up to fight a war with Iran.

                Anyway, my conscience will be clear - because I will have voted for President Obama and sent money to his campaign and done my best to Get Out The Vote!

                • 15 votes
                #3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

                Thanks Amy -

                We are doing more this year for the campaign - data entry, manning phone backs and hosting house parties. We have donated as much as our budget allows and purchased our T-shirts "Women for Obama and Veteran's for Obama"

                4 more years!!!!

                • 11 votes
                #3.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

                Amy, oh brother...turn the channel will ya. How exactly are we going to pay off the 16T Dollar deficit? What's your plan? Oh and whats your plan for Social Security and Medicare when that money runs dry?

                • 5 votes
                #3.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:02 PM EDT

                Take the cap off SS and put part D back into Part B. Two simple fixes.

                • 9 votes
                #3.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                Obama can't answer the hard questions. In fact the media hasn't ever asked him any hard questions... like how do you control $1.3 trillion deficits... Remember a deficit is what is left over after you've spent all the tax revenue collected.

                What about people's losing $4000 per year on average in personal income? Do you think those people will vote for Obama because of his charm? What about people not doing better is so hard to understand? Obama slurpers don't even view what other people are looking at..

                • 9 votes
                #3.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

                Actually do think Obama will win because of his vision for the country......I don't like where Ryan/romney want to take us.

                • 10 votes
                #3.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

                you like where Obama has taken us? into the void. well Kathryn, nothing like being an obamabot. Clap your hands and say cakes and pies

                • 6 votes
                #3.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

                When you have nothing after two complete years of total control and then two more of both the Executive Branch and Senate control, all the Democrats can come up with to scream "LIE!" Childish way to point and scream fire when all anyone needs to do is to look at facts. He has failed in his term. Even he said in 2008 that he was to be graded on his performance when this time comes... Well, here it is... grab a hold of some of the FACTS -

                First President to Violate the War Powers Act
                First President to Orchestrate the Sale of Murder Weapons to Mexican Drug Cartels
                First President to issue an unlawful "recess-appointment" while the U.S. Senate remained in session (against the advice of his own Justice Department)
                First President to be Held in Contempt of Court for Illegally Obstructing Oil Drilling...in the Gulf of Mexico
                First President to Defy a Federal Judge's Court Order to Cease Implementing the Health Care ReformLaw
                First President to halt deportations of illegal aliens and grant them work permits, a form of stealth amnesty roughly equivalent to The DREAM Act, which could not pass Congress
                First President to Require All Americans to Purchase a Product From a Third Party
                First President to Spend a Trillion Dollars on Shovel-ReadyJobs and Later Admit There Was No Such Thing as Shovel-Ready Jobs
                First President to sue states for requiring valid IDs to vote, even though the same administration requires valid IDs to travel by air
                First President to Abrogate Bankruptcy Law to Turn Over Control of Companies to His Union Supporters
                First President to sign into law a bill that permits the government to hold anyone suspected of being associated with terrorism indefinitely, without any form of due process. No indictment. No judge or jury. No evidence. No trial. Just an indefinite jail sentence.
                First President to Bypass Congress and Implement the DREAM Act Through Executive Fiat
                First President to Threaten Insurance Companies After They Publicly Spoke out on How Obamacare Helped Cause their Rate Increases
                First President to Threaten an Auto Company (Ford) After It Publicly Mocked Bailouts of GM and Chrysler
                First President to Order a Secret Amnesty Program that Stopped the Deportations of Illegal Immigrants Across the U.S., Including Those With Criminal Convictions
                First President to Demand a Company Hand Over $20 Billion to One of His Political Appointees
                First President to Encourage Racial Discrimination and Intimidation at Polling Places
                First President to Have a Law Signed By an Auto-pen Without Being Present
                First President to Arbitrarily Declare an Existing Law Unconstitutional and Refuse to Enforce It
                First President to Tell a Major Manufacturing Company In Which State They Are Allowed to Locate a Factory
                First President to refuse to comply with a House Oversight Committee subpoenas
                First President to File Lawsuits Against the States He Swore an Oath to Protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN, and others)
                First President to Withdraw an Existing Coal Permit That Had Been Properly Issued Years Ago
                First President to Propose an Executive Order Demanding Companies Disclose Their Political Contributions to Bid on Government Contracts
                First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-Corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case
                First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner
                First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in
                First President to be in office during a downgrade of America's credit
                First President to to held in contempt of court of illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico
                First President to defund NASA thereby terminating America's ability to put a man in space
                First President to hide his medical, educational, and travel records
                First President to visit foreign countries and apologize to foreign rulers over America's values
                First President to state that America is not a Christian nation
                First President to have 22 taxpayer funded personal servants for his wife
                First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense
                First President to organize more fund raising dinners than all the previous five presidents

                Common sense and the responsibility of those in office to be fiscally responsible leaves no choice but to CHANGE administrations

                • 9 votes
                #3.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

                Go stand on the Fisher Kings corner and shout this junk.

                • 2 votes
                #3.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

                Just like the people who stayed home to vote instead of voting for Mccain last time, 8.3% unemployment and 16 trillion in debt, thats not a mistake they will make again

                • 2 votes
                #3.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

                I'm a young adult and I don't understand why anyone would vote for either of these two "candidates" (and I use that term lightly).

                Oh wait a minute, I forgot that we don't vote for those that deserve to be in office, but simply for the better of two evils. Tell you what, I will send over a male stripper and a male whore to take your daughter out for the night.....what? you say you wouldn't let her out the front door? Then why the hell does your country deserve anything different?

                  #3.10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

                  If someone has common sense they sure will not vote for RMoney. What else you got?

                  • 2 votes
                  #3.11 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

                  I agree, Amy. There is no enthusiasm gap here for sure.

                  My cat is also very enthusiastic---she wears her "Cats for Obama" collar proudly.

                  Cats for Obama---28 more years!!

                  • 5 votes
                  #3.12 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

                  Paynefulthought -

                  Your list of so-called "facts" can be found on any number of right-wing web sites, word for word. If you're going to cut and paste from others, at least give them the credit - otherwise, it's plagiarism.

                  Either that, or do what everyone else does and make up your own lies.

                  Too lazy even for that? Why am I not surprised.

                  • 5 votes
                  #3.13 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

                  Lots of lies and misrepresentations in that list, Payn.

                  • 4 votes
                  #3.14 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

                  PAIN,

                  I'm begging you, please put the crack pipe down.

                  • 2 votes
                  #3.15 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

                  Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital

                  By Matt Taibbi, August 29, 2012 7:00 AM ET

                  A man makes a $250 million fortune loading up companies with debt and then extracting million-dollar fees from those same companies, in exchange for the generous service of telling them who needs to be fired in order to finance the debt payments he saddled them with in the first place. That same man then runs for president riding an image of children roasting on flames of debt, choosing as his running mate perhaps the only politician in America more pompous and self-righteous on the subject of the evils of borrowed money than the candidate himself. If Romney pulls off this whopper, you'll have to tip your hat to him: No one in history has ever successfully run for president riding this big of a lie.

                  http://Bruce-1628250.newsvine.com/_news/2012/09/04/13660654-greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital

                  • 2 votes
                  #3.16 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

                  Amy B. Portland, Maine

                  If Romney wins because people are too lazy to vote

                  Every business should have you as a motivational speaker. Do you get paid for that? Obama sure could use you in the "get out the vote" team.

                    #3.17 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

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                      #3.18 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:35 PM EDT

                      Brian,

                      You're pretty much wasting your breath trying to explain anything to idiots that are so stupid they wouldn't know what a tree was if it fell on them. They are not about to believe the damage that Obummer has done to this country during his almost 4 years. He promised CHANGE, and man did he ever deliver that, unfortunately, our kids, grandkids. and many generations to come won't have any change in their pockets or money in their wallets/purses, it's all going to go to repay the national debt caused by his stupidty. College education indeed, oh wait, he went there as a foreign exchange student so he could smoke the good stuff...........

                      b

                        #3.19 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

                        Posting the points from a Left web site or a right web site doesn't make what is posted right or wrong. Researching and understanding where they come from and if they actually are true proves whether they are right or wrong.

                        Looking at the poster's list of complaints, most are based on fact and happened, except that unless prosecuted, they are not proven as illegal and declared so.

                          #3.20 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:48 PM EDT

                          They are not about to believe the damage that Obummer has done to this country during his almost 4 years.

                          Meanwhile, Ryan/Romnmey has NO SOLUTIONS to fix anything, empty Policy, empty Suits and EMpty chairs. Sorry Teaturds, no ideas, no vote. Hate only gets you so far

                          Romney has no core and NO SOLUTIONS

                          • 3 votes
                          #3.21 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:10 PM EDT

                          DB - What? I think your attempt at "lawyer talk" kind of fell flat this time.

                          • 3 votes
                          #3.22 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

                          @katherine... What vision? Run the debt up? Penalize the successful? More foodstamps?

                          • 1 vote
                          #3.23 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:08 PM EDT
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                          I think the GOP and the press are going to be dissapointed when Obama wins bigger than either of them thought. They are both pushing a tight election because it makes a better story but I don't think so. Ever voter in my family (there is 18 of us) is anxious for the election to get here so we can vote for Obama again. I live in a bright red state....red and very very poor state.

                          • 11 votes
                          Reply#4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

                          18 in your family going to vote, only 6 of them alive but 18 of you will vote

                          • 3 votes
                          #4.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

                          Seems the media may be playing numbers games with us.

                          Everyone I know who voted Obama is voting the same again. Nothing has changed after Romney came on , in fact he cemented Obama's vote further.

                          • 6 votes
                          #4.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

                          ptny - "Everyone I know who voted Obama is voting the same again"

                          Further proof of the greed and ignorance that exemplifies Democrats.

                          • 3 votes
                          #4.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

                          Kathryn

                          There are reports today that they are considering moving the acceptance speach from the stadium, not just because of the weather, but because they are having some difficulty busing enough Minorities and Students from anywhere near enough to fill the stadium of 73,000. In 2008 he had no problem filling an 84,000 seat stadium without arranging the transportation.

                          • 1 vote
                          #4.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

                          Katheryn Sullivan

                          I may be wrong but I do not remember Carter coming anywhere close to this number of failures during his entire four years as President. I do not think he set anywhere near the number of records that the Obama administration has set as far as the weakest economic recovery ever, the most failed economic programs, the most Americans ever on food stamps, etc. I do not think Carter had nearly as many firsts as Obama such as the first government sanctioned American citizen assassination, the first ever U.S. credit downgrade, the first ever TRILLION dollar annual government deficit, etc. I do not think Carter had nearly as much disdain for individual Constitutional rights, Constitutional tenets. or the rule of law.

                          • 1 vote
                          #4.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:02 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          Oh I believe Hussein has done very well in firing up the voters. The conservatives sure are fired up to get him out of the White House!

                          • 6 votes
                          Reply#5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

                          Oh yah, I can tell the baggers are REALLY excited about the etch a sketch millionaire who hides his money off shore.....right.

                          • 9 votes
                          #5.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

                          baggers? Like grocery baggers? carpet baggers? Bagger Vance?

                          The Democrats are the party of everyone....you don't see a sea of white at our gatherings. The GOP better wise up....the country is turning tan.

                          nothing like racism to incite the cro magnon party known as the DNC. You are now a big f#&k stick

                          • 5 votes
                          #5.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

                          Just stating facts........did you not watch the GOP Convention? a sea of white.

                          • 6 votes
                          #5.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

                          Ah Kathryn was playing "Spot the Negro" with MSNBC...

                          • 3 votes
                          #5.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

                          stating facts. care to back up those facts. NBC playing spot the negro, real quaint coming from the same shlt organizationg thats been in trouble recently for all sorts of video editing. NBC is America's Al Jeezera. Ask Mullah Murray

                          • 1 vote
                          #5.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

                          Caesar,

                          When you disrespect the president of the USA you disrespect every American. Which tells me your not an American. What country are you from? Communist China? You American hating piece of !$#!#@. Spread your propaganda somewhere else.

                          • 3 votes
                          #5.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

                          You cannot judge racial mix of people using television cameras, especially NBC which went to extraodinary measures to no show any of the Non-White Speakers. Many non-white look plenty white, Many white are sporting nice dark tans. And from behind, you cannot tell which is which at all.

                            #5.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:55 PM EDT
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                            Still trying to figure out why some folks refer to President Obama as a divider when he's the one with the better numbers in more constituencies. That ain't dividing, that's uniting.

                            And the stuff about "class warfare"? How is it that when President Obama is trying make sure that more people have the opportunity to raise themselves up rather than remain relegated to poverty it's class warfare?

                            It's the American Dream to be able to rise up based on individual effort and personal merit juxtaposed with opportunity. It's the American Nightmare to get slapped down by being told your job and your hope for opportunity has been shipped to China so that a few investors can profit.

                            • 10 votes
                            Reply#6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                            The Democrats are the party of everyone....you don't see a sea of white at our gatherings. The GOP better wise up....the country is turning tan.

                            • 8 votes
                            #6.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:07 PM EDT
                            Comment author avatarRick ColoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                            It appears you are just another liberal biggot!

                            • 3 votes
                            #6.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

                            Kathryn - "you don't see a sea of white at our gatherings"

                            Too bad for you. You probably don't hear much English either do you?

                            • 1 vote
                            #6.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

                            pjam09,

                            "You probably don't hear much English either do you?"

                            I would suggest you take a few grammar classes.

                            The beast (666) is upon us, FOX news F=6, O (15th letter) 1+5=6, X (24th letter) 2+4=6.

                              #6.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

                              Can you say redistribution of wealth from those who have worked hard to those who never have. Why are so many on foodstamps? My father would have worked a hundred jobs so that would not happen to his family

                                #6.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:01 PM EDT

                                lulu - evidence would seem to indicate that so many are on food stamps as a result of the melt down of the world economy exacerbated (here in the US) by two unpaid for wars and several years of tax cuts that negatively impacted the creation of an economic investment environment (as measured by the inability to invest in transportation infrastructure and inability to finance and take advantage of the agglomerating effects of energy and communication co-located infrastructure) and also destabilized much of the US economy.

                                In fact, the tax cuts were more costly and had less positive impact to the US economy than the stimulous package did.

                                • 1 vote
                                #6.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:10 PM EDT

                                Baloney, Matthew, And now the money that would be invested is wanted by the government because they have proved how good their economic decisions are. It does not really matter who is in charge because they are all clueless. Infrastructure is obviously important but not the end all. And poor investment decision such as Solyndra which I do realize were focused on by both Bush and Obama does not help. Bush put the investment technically on hold because something seemed fishy. Too many people do not want to make the hard decisions in their personal life to do even ok. My dad was never rich, worked hard, paid his bills, did not expect someone else to do it no matter what. Plenty of times there was no food at the end of the week. I remember eating mustard sandwiches. Did not think we were poor. Went to college and grad school paying my own way. Now it seems people want an easier way.

                                • 1 vote
                                #6.7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:27 PM EDT

                                Respectfully lulu, is clear you've already decided you know the answer in spite of the financial evidence to the contrary. Apparently (per your "baloney" statement) there are no world economic issues, the US economy is not part of the world economy, and that there is no reason for the US to invest in alternative energy (Side note - you do know that Solyndra went belly up as a result of the Chinese government absorbing the losses on behalf of the Chinese solar panel companies so that they could undercut all other competition and get a corner on the world market? And that the US is prohibited by law from doing the same thing?).

                                Apparently it's all about personal choices for everyone that is receiving government assistance. Per you, they are unable to "make hard decisions."

                                Yep, and I had onion sandwiches (two pieces of day old bread with a slice of onion from the garden, mayonnaise or mustard and pepper) for lunch and mashed turnips with greens for dinner. I respect what you have overcome but sometimes it's circumstances that decide what you need and what you can do.

                                And I'll be durned if I would let my kids go hungry because I was too proud to accept a temporary helping hand from anyone if I needed it to feed them. The kids needs are more important than my ego. I might not eat but you better believe they'd have a meal on the table.

                                • 1 vote
                                #6.8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:49 PM EDT

                                Let us see. My experience with some of these kids who I wish were NOT penalized for their parents not providing for them, was to feed them. Lunch at my house, did not care why your pathetic parent did not provide. Maybe it was drugs, maybe there was not a job....but that is where it starts... Not with the government. They would probably tell me not to give them peanut butter. Worked with my church to pay medical bills of a sixteen year old hit by a car whose family did not have sufficient, if any, insurance. We did not know the family.

                                My problem s also not with temporary help but with those who think they deserve the handout and it goes on even for generations. With thse who will not leave a town with no jobs to go some place better. My parents did, my husbands parents did, we did.

                                  #6.9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 9:17 PM EDT

                                  When those options are available, I'm all for it! They aren't always there.

                                  I've known people on the public dole that were slime and people that were gold. I'm not willing to throw out the gold because a few of the slime are messing things up. In some of the communities for which I've worked (think one-business rural towns where the factory closed) there was no way out for the families without government assistance. Or in places that were catastrophically impacted by disaster and they had nothing left, there was not way out w/o government assistance.

                                  Like you, I believe that the any public assistance should be temporary. But the other question is, where do they go when the jobs aren't available due to economic conditions? Why would they move and be in poverty there when they have family and a community where they are at?

                                    #6.10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 10:41 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    This convention will be about Education, Woman's rights, & the lies they will make up about the GOP. You won't hear anything about unemployment, the economy, the deficits, etc. Empty suit Obama is looking like that empty chair Clint Eastwood was talking to last week.

                                    • 7 votes
                                    Reply#7 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:07 PM EDT

                                    I'll look forward to the fact checkers assessments of the speeches. Wonder if they'll meet the GOP achieved standard of being trashed by FOX (and everyone else) for lies.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #7.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

                                    Kinda bad when even Fox trashes their buddies in the GOP.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #7.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

                                    Carville told him months ago to stay away from the economy going forward. He has done a pretty good job of that so far. You may be right JFK.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #7.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:44 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    If any of the Dems that you know are toying with the idea of staying home remind them of Scalia, Roberts and Alito......

                                    • 8 votes
                                    Reply#8 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

                                    See, even you don't want to remind them of Obama.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #8.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

                                    Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital

                                    By Matt Taibbi, August 29, 2012 7:00 AM ET

                                    Four years ago, the Mitt Romneys of the world nearly destroyed the global economy with their greed, shortsightedness and – most notably – wildly irresponsible use of debt in pursuit of personal profit. The sight was so disgusting that people everywhere were ready to drop an H-bomb on Lower Manhattan and bayonet the survivors. But today that same insane greed ethos, that same belief in the lunatic pursuit of instant borrowed millions – it's dusted itself off, it's had a shave and a shoeshine, and it's back out there running for president.

                                    http://Bruce-1628250.newsvine.com/_news/2012/09/04/13660654-greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #8.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:21 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    Who was the Republican that said the GOP better wise up, they are running out of angry while males.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    Reply#9 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

                                    We have plenty of "While" males still available...

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #9.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

                                    Actually in a few years white males will be in the minority......

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #9.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                                    Biggotry! Is this your new slogan along with "Forward"! Just another liberal nut who has a pea size brain!

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #9.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                                    K.: As a white male It looks like we might be better as a minority. ☺

                                    Obama/Biden 2012

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #9.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

                                    are 'minorities' Americans? well the biggots of Exito(intelligence) and K Sullivan, its dirtbags like you that file every person into some grievance class that serves no purpose. DNC, the party of racism and serfdom

                                      #9.5 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

                                      Kathryn Sullivan - Lindsey Graham South Carolina Senator and buddy of John "Bomb Bomb" McCain said

                                      The Republican Party needs some more "angry white men"!

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #9.6 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:09 PM EDT
                                      Reply

                                      No one I know is staying home and we only have one day to vote! LOL

                                      • 3 votes
                                      Reply#10 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

                                      The Obama official, however, cited that the campaign has hit a record level of voter Fraud, Intimidations and an Bribes -- even over 2008.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#11 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

                                      Proud to say we have two brand new voters just turned 18 and are both voting for Obama....

                                      • 3 votes
                                      Reply#12 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

                                      Well one day they will look back and regret it if the incompetent in chief (Obama) gets back in office. My state is a traditional blue state and normally that does not bother me since I am an Independent who normally votes Democrat. However, for the upcoming presidential election I am hoping we can swing it Republican.

                                      Also, all of the "show us the taxes" people, do you realize it sounds an awful lot like the "unlock your records" that the Republicans yell at Obama. The only difference is that I am sure that Romney did nothing illegal because the IRS would be on him in a second if he did. Obama has been a huge failure and he lost my vote and I wish I could retract the one for 2008.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #12.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:10 PM EDT
                                      Reply

                                      Who couldn't be enthusiastic about 16 trillion in debt, millions unemployed, prices skyrocketing and a Party-A-Night atmosphere at the White House?

                                      Thanks for enslaving our children and grandchildren obama. The people that praise you Today will curse you tomorrow.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      Reply#13 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

                                      I am an Independent and undecided voter. I wish both campaigns would stop the vitriol and start discussing the issues facing this country. We have major problems that need to be solved.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#14 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                                      Obama Admin already is.

                                      Don't hold your breath for Romney to utter a peep. He still doesn't know.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #14.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

                                      wish until you're blue in the face, vitriol will be a staple of party politics until the voters show the parties that we'll no longer accept smear campaigns. However, if you look at the party platforms, you'll see their policies clear as day:

                                      Republican: tax cuts for the rich, eliminate tax credits that go to the middle class to pay for it. privatize education. repeal ACA and turn medicare into a voucher program. eliminate medicaid, welfare, and any other government program not titled defense. outlaw abortion and the use of contraceptives to prevent pregnancies while further entrenching 'God' into our republic (just like they did in the commie hunt 50's when adding 'Under God' to the pledge of allegiance).

                                      Democrats: repeal bush era tax cuts, eliminate tax breaks for corporations outsorcing jobs. work to reform education and enhance college subsidies. find ways to improve health care and keep medicare viable. find ways to cut costs on programs that are overburdening our fiscal system, and do more cuts to bloated programs once the economy returns to full employment. Maintain status quo in regards to Roe V Wade and contraception, maintain a secular nation.

                                      i'd like to see more talk about new energy sources (particularly moves toward biodiesel/biomass as a stepping stone to hydrogen cells and other future techs), ways to counter the defecit/debt problem, and campaign renovation, but we won't hear anything about these topics i'm afraid...

                                      As for strategies to combat the debt (i've spoken about energy and campaign renovation before), how about establishing a 1% national sales tax on all goods purchased in the country with the specific purpose of paying down the debt? interest on the debt is crushing our fiscal policy, so if we were to pay down the principal it would then free up more discretionary spending for the other budgetary problems such as SS/medicare and medicaid. a 1% sales tax on 15 trillion (current GDP) would be 150 billion per year that we could reduce the debt by. this alone would cut the debt by 1 trillion every 7 years (although income from sales tax may be less due to how GDP is calculated, and i don't have the time right now to figure out what national 'sales' would be...). to supplement this program, we could set up a charity and request that all professional athletes, entertainers, and other 'celebrities' donate 10% of their income to this charity that would pay down the debt principal in addition to the national sales tax. i'll be the first to admit it isn't a perfect plan, but it is better than any other ideas out there (because i've not heard any...). These are the types of things that i like to throw at walls to see if it sticks, i could care less about the pandering nonesense that dominates the airwaves. We need fresh ideas, and in the current climate there is no room for actual problem solving that might put out a 'bad' soundbite...

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #14.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:15 PM EDT

                                      We do need fresh ideas but a national sales tax will not fly with most because they will claim it to be regressive. I would pay it IF it actually went to pay down the debt but we all know thse idiots in DC will find a way to use it for something else.

                                        #14.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 7:33 PM EDT
                                        Reply

                                        Democrats and their hope and change and shovel ready jobS....LOL...What in the world happen to them... do you really know or care?

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#15 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

                                        Oh Joe...you're out numbered in here.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#16 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                                        PTNY I know I shouldn't type such hard questions.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #16.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:35 PM EDT
                                        Reply

                                        Kathryn Sullivan reminds me of BFD Biden, no brain and a racist!

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#17 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

                                        BFD? Typical jealous, uneducated mentality!

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #17.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:34 PM EDT
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                                        Hahaha.....Hell Yes.....As the "Panic" Spreads in the Obomination.......Rejected is the Right Word Anyway......POMPUS Obama Rejected by the American People!

                                        Judge THEM by what they DO not by what they SAY.....The King Bee and the Rest of these Wall Street Owned UN Criminals in Washington DC..... Have been PROVEN over and over again to ONLY work for Wall Street & Military Industrial Corporations and NEVER FOR US!

                                        Hope & Change FOR WALL STREET But NONE FOR US unless you count for the WORSE!

                                        Again the Cure to the Toxicity of the Bankster Disease of Partisanship is a Total Political Body Transplant!

                                        Refuse to Re-Elect ANY Incumbent for just like Bumbling Barry NONE of THEM work for US! One Term and Out until We The People Are THE FIRST and NOT the LAST in These Wall Street Corrupted Politicians Minds!

                                        Better a Suspect Liar like Romney with Morals....Than a Proven Liar like Obama With None!

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#18 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

                                        You do know, don't you, that Romney plans to get rid of most Commerce regulations...that would be Wall Street!

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #18.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

                                        Nonsense NYPD the "NEW" Democrats Will Impeach Romney In February For Betraying US To Wall Street if we get Rid Of Obama In November!

                                        Your "Kind" just tries to convince America that there is a "Difference Between The Two" where THERE IS NONE (for now)! The First Thing America Has To Do Is FIRE ALL OF OUR MANAGEMENT.....Let The New Guys & Gals Figure Out Wall Streets Past Crimes!

                                        One Term is All They Get Until that FACT is Burned into Washington DC's minds.....Betray US To WALL STREET....Look Forward To UN Employment Line with Someone else looking into your Evil Deeds next Term!

                                        Once Again Refuse To Reward FAILURE Refuse To Re-Elect ANY Incumbent be they Democrat Or Republican!

                                          #18.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

                                          The beast (666) is upon us, FOX news F=6, O (15th letter) 1+5=6, X (24th letter) 2+4=6.

                                            #18.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

                                            Hmm and what does that make NBC the DEVILS TOOL? NBC/WSJ (Wall Street Journal) work hand & hand to Generate Disinformation & Propaganda For Wall Street and their Minions in Washington DC like Bailout Barry!

                                            Once again America...Refuse To Reward FAILURE Refuse To Re-Elect ANY Wall Street Sponsored Incumbents be they Democrat or Republican for They All Work For The DEVILS On Wall Street and NOT US!

                                            PS Speak Of The Devil Watch This........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8J_lcHwkvc

                                              #18.4 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:08 PM EDT
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                                              One (1) point bounce...that could be embarrassing after the months of "The King's speech" preparation and after all the King's men and all the King's dressage horses put Romney together for one night.

                                              One point within the margin of ERROR! LOL

                                              • 1 vote
                                              Reply#19 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

                                              Honestly, what I want to see, is the bashing stop!

                                              The bashing of our current President and the bashing of each other.

                                              Even after the election in 2008, there has been no national pride with regard to PRESIDENT OBAMA. I could not stand Bush Jr, but he still was the president, who is suppose to be the leader of the greatest nation in the world.

                                              Our disrespect is showing across the world and we should be ashamed of ourselves.

                                              Why am I voting Obama? Because:

                                              - He Cares about everyone. Not the rich, not the poor, not the middle, but Everyone.

                                              - At the same time that our deficit has gone up, jobs have begun to be reestablished, state and local property taxes have been stabilized.

                                              - He has presented ideas to congress, who have rejected every proposal presented.

                                              - Equal healthcare FOR ALL!

                                              Why Not Romney?

                                              What is his plan?????????????

                                              • 3 votes
                                              Reply#20 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

                                              The new slogan could be! re-elect me and I will be more flexible! I have your flexibility for you! The liberal morons know this idiot has no record to run on except more BS and lies! Of course the hollywood crowd or Sarah Jessica Parker, Georgy Porgy Clooney and other idiots who think they are important will vote for the liar-in-chief!

                                              I have it from a unknown source that Chris Matthews and Bill Maher are gettig a tingling sensation as they shower together!

                                              • 2 votes
                                              Reply#21 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

                                              and Rick, name calling really makes you and your party distance themselves even more! Although I am indepedent, because I am voting Obama, I guess I am also an "moron" and an "idiot". Thank you

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #21.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

                                              @Rick Colo:

                                              Do you expect this type of drivel to persuade anyone? If so, it won't. you'd be better off with a less slanderous and more thoughtful approach.

                                              oh, btw, calling dems liars after the last week's lying convention is just... well, i suppose displacement is the nicest way i can put it.

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                                              #21.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:22 PM EDT
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                                              the muslim in chief is done. not even his racist black voting block will get up off their lazy asses this year and vote.

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                                              Reply#22 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

                                              - Freedom of religion is being bashed!

                                              - Why keep looking at the color of skin? His 50/50 African / Hawaiian is no different than my 50/50 Irish / Swedish.

                                              - Name calling is real politics!

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                                              #22.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

                                              The beast (666) is upon us, FOX news F=6, O (15th letter) 1+5=6, X (24th letter) 2+4=6.

                                                #22.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 6:04 PM EDT
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                                                You GOPhers seem to be getting a bit nastier before the Democratic convention...like wedding jitters!

                                                It's fine, it's ok, this is warranted stress in anticipation of ANOTHER GREAT DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION!!!!

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                                                Reply#23 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

                                                Should have been here last week with the regulars on FR. Fisty got particularly bad. Especially late in the afternoon and early evening. Think her "libation of choice" kicks in mid morning and late into the day.

                                                  #23.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

                                                  PTNY ... You may wake up in the real world after the election...with no freebies or handouts

                                                    #23.2 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

                                                    I think the poor ratings on Romney's speech, and the Dirty Harry Dupe really got to them.

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                                                    #23.3 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:49 PM EDT
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                                                    If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you weren't a racist, please vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot.

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                                                    Reply#24 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

                                                    Randolph in NY, who cares if you vote for the moron! You are just one of those entitled losers who want more handouts and no job! The loser-in-chief continues to blame others instead of being a real man and saying he failed because of his stupid radical policies! You are just another one of the unthinkums who vote on personality and not leadership. Obozo has screwed this country up royally since he was elected in 2008 and the massive debt, deficit, unemployment, and division is on his watch! So all of you better face up to reality instead of living in a fantasy land!!

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                                                    Reply#25 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

                                                    Rick, if for some reason, Romney does win, all I ask is that you remember how good it is today. If nothing improves, remember than, who are the "idiots and morons".

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                                                    #25.1 - Tue Sep 4, 2012 5:01 PM EDT
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