REB,

1 million more jobs were created in just the last 7 months than were created during President Bush’s entire first term, 48 months.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth

Wow

Romney said,

"United we put a man on the moon."

We the people and our tax dollars and the Government BUILD THAT.

Romney is a Draft Dodging Coward that will never become President, America don't like Phonies !!!!!!!

It's just more proof that from a right winger's point of view, this isn't about electing Mitt Romney. It's about removing Barack Obama. There is a huge difference.

I believe your hearing and reading abilities are severely impaired. He said " today 23 million people are out of work or stopped looking for work or under employed and "if you have a coach that is zero and 23 million, you say it's time to get a new coach".

sometimes firing some of the coaching staff works. Lets start by getting rid of the congressmen, like John Boner, that block everything this head coach does. I'll lay odds at 10 to 1 that it would work miracles.

Divided, as we are now, we do nothing but tear each others' throats out. Congratulations, you lot, for being part of the problem. Your hatred will finish the job of pulling our society apart.

But I'm sure no one cares about that. It's only important that your team wins.

AG-99

@!$%#in A! Our future depends on it....

Besides, tearing each others throats out is what makes FR so much fun....

-

O&Joe 2012

Mitt Romney, 9/1/12: "This is a time for us to come together as a nation. We do not have to have the kind of divisiveness and bitterness and recriminations we've seen over the last four years. I will bring us together."

Hmm, why does that ring a bell?

George W. Bush, 2/29/2000: "No, I don't view -- I'm a uniter, not a divider. I don't believe there's a deep
divide. As a matter of fact, when you look at the results amongst Republicans who are voting in the primaries, I'm winning overwhelmingly, and -- which means it's going to be easy to unite our party and lead us to victory. It's been my record. It's what I've done as governor. I know how to unite people. I don't like the politics of pitting one group of people against another, the politics of pointing fingers. I like that politics advocated by somebody like Ronald Reagan, who was a uniter. He didn't stand up and pit groups of people against each other. He didn't have a spiteful agenda, he had an optimistic agenda, as do I."

Look, can we just for once stop arguing about who "unites" people better than who? People are united or divided because they CHOOSE to be. We support a candidate - or a President - because we choose to believe that he is working in our best interests. And we have a million different self interests that are for the most part diametrically opposed to what those on the other side what.

Romney has spent the last four years spending hundreds of millions of dollars attacking the choice that the majority of his fellow Americans made. He's engaged in "the politics of pointing fingers" on a daily basis - but it's not just the President that he's been so spiteful towards. When he attacks the President that the majority of his fellow Americans elected and still support, he is attacking us all personally too. He's telling us that WE are wrong, that WE don't love our country, that WE don't know what's best for it, that OUR beliefs are wrong, OUR values are wrong, and that he plans to repeal or overturn or otherwise discard everything WE worked so hard to accomplish.

So tell me, Mr. Romney......why should we believe you're going to turn around and "unite" us once you're elected? How exactly is that going to work? Will OUR values matter any more to you once you're elected?

Of course they won't. I kind of agree with AG99 above - at this point, I have serious doubts that even another history-changing event like putting a man or the moon or another 9/11 would be able to unite this country. But Mitt Romney can. Just because he's Mitt Romney.

Somehow I suspect it's going to take a lot more.

Just listen to Mittens Reb. He is the great "I AM" after all.

Romney's acceptance speech : I will give the 1% more tax cuts !!!!!!!!

Romneys gonna fix our economy huh? Makes about as much sense as hiring a herd of hogs to shell our corn.

Where are your tax returns Mittens? Why are you so afraid to tell us about your past business history? Are you afraid these revelations would cost you the election, or even get you jailed? There's plenty about to be revealed soon anyway, and not a damn thing you can do about it. You're a typical, hypocritical, lying republican, Willard.

Ryan caught in another lie … will it ever end

Paul Ryan's campaign walked back comments the VP nominee made about running a marathon.

"I had a two hour and fifty-something" marathon, Ryan said last week an interview. "I hurt a disc in my back, so I don’t run marathons anymore."

But the Ryan campaign confirmed to Runner's World that he has only run one marathon, the 1990 Grandma’s Marathon in Duluth, Minnesota, which he finished in just over 4 hours.

Is he a pathological liar

Mitt Romney and the rest of the Republicans served us a "Convention" full of "nostalgia". Oh Yeah! Let's see: Let's bring the country back to those happy days when black kids have their own schools, and black people had to keep their "rightful" place: as servants and cooks.

Let's bring those happy days when women were "nice" and stayed at home, cooked dinners and sprayed roaches with DDT. Let's bring those happy days, at the beginning of the century, when we first started drilling for oil, and everybody was really happy. Let's bring back the old days when the Russians were the enemy, and we were building a lot of weapons, and have a contest to see who had more.

The Republicans have been in coma since Ronald Reagan. They totally "forgot" that the former President of 8 years brought the country to their knees. They forgot all the "good" that Sarah Palin brought to the party and, of course, they forgot Dick Cheney!

Global warming is just a liberal invention to block progress, abortion is killing humans, welfare is for lazy blacks, women only get raped if they ask for it, and then they deserve it, However, if woman repent they won't get pregnant. Jesus was hanging out with dinosaurs, etc. etc.

Romney and Ryan knocked several balls out of the park but each one was a foul ball.

I'm curious to see how Mitt works the leveraged buyout of the U.S. economy. I know who's going to profit from it (Mitt's SuperPAC donors), and I know who's going to suffer and pay for it (99% of the American people), but how does he plan on pulling it off? Most of his leveraged buyouts at Bain resulted in huge profits for Mitt and Bain; and pain, layoffs, and bankruptcies for the target acquisitions. Job creation? Only for more accountants to launder Mitt's profits overseas.

Obama 2012/Romney 1040

Makes about as much sense as hiring a herd of hogs to shell our corn.

Mac,

You owe me a keyboard for that one! lmao!

REB-1013231

All the world is interested in US politics. Your armed forces are everywhere.

I am not a Canadian, nor an American. Try something in Europe.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

If you lost your keyboard why are you still subjecting us to your BS???

When they comment, I believe they call it a whipping post. Gawd they even supply the whip.

Gawd they even supply the whip

BCWC,

I am more than happy to crack them with it! ☺

Pretty much the only thing Romney is relying on at this point is a combination of winning the bigoted/racist white vote, and suppressing the vote of minorities and the poor.

I think that he is strongly counting on the supression of votes, and he wants all his red neck audience to make sure that they know that he is a hateful red neck as well. He even went as far as mocking one of the most serious problems of humanity: The raising sea levels.

That is the typical comment of ASININE, IGNORANT PEOPLE: Global warming is a hoax.

I

It’s what Americans deserved.

You deserved it because during these years, you worked harder than ever before. You deserved it because when it cost more to fill up your car, you cut out movie nights and put in longer hours. Or when you lost that job that paid $22.50 an hour with benefits, you took two jobs at 9 bucks an hour and fewer benefits.

Welcome to Willard's version of America!

I guess it goes with your gay lifestyle.

A day without our resident homophobe is like a day without sunshine around here!

Thanks!

It is estimated that with the economy the way it is that 12 million new jobs will be created in the next 4 years. So the no plan man Willard states that he will create 12 million jobs in his first term if elected. Does this mean that a net gain of 24 million jobs will come about with a Romney Presidency?

@Michael1969-Sharriannie-BrianB: Think a "time out" is appropriate for you guys. Get "DB," your water toter to bring some towels and cool water to you. Dry off, huddle up, and try again. All of you appear to have the will, wherewithal, and total lack of character, to at least, one day become accomplished liars, but right now, you're little more than the smell emitting from the place where a great republican liar sh^t.

I feel that the President deserves a second term because Mitt Romney, when he talks, sounds like Charlie Browns' teacher.....WhaaWhaawhaaWhaaWhaaWhaaWhaaWhaa.

Just alot of ad nausem BS and he never says anything substantial.

Can't wait for the debates....This will be where the rubber meets the road.

Mitt will eat sh!t unless he has someone on the stage to tell him what to say.

"We Built it", The only thing the Republicans have built in the last 12 years is the "Hell" they will have to live in come November.

Republicans don't care about anybody, Anything, just the LIES they are told to keep repeating.

So Enjoy your Hell, You Built it!

BTW My Obama/Biden Tee shirt was made here in the U.S.A.

Michael1969

GOP Lies & Distortion Factory

Is this Bev from Chicago in disguise? 'Cause she hits da pipe too

I hit a lotta pipe something you couldn't handle.

It's funny that Mitt would use Zero and 23 million for President Obama's record. It must have been some sort of Freudian slip.

For the ten withheld years of taxes he continues to hide, those numbers are very significant to his yearly returns:

Zero represents what he paid in taxes.

$23 million represents what he should have paid each year.

Obama 2012/Romney 1040

• So Mitt -- you've been bitching and whining about President Obama for months. Tell us Mitt --- what are YOU going to do to make things better. Don't run off a bunch of talking points like cut taxes or more glittering generalities. What SPECIFICALLY are YOU going to DO?? Give us real DETAILS. Tell us your plans.

Try this on boys and girls. Someone noted that during bushes first term we experienced job loss and our economy began failing during his second. Yep You got it right. Now the fun part. Do you know why that happened ? You all do understand that normally not much good is felt from a sitting Presidents policy until his second term and beyond right. It's not like when we go buy a new car and enjoy it right away.

President Clinton and Al Gore had a vision that America should not be a major manufacturing nation but rather a service oriented nation. Al Gore wanted the polution to go elsewhere. To accomplish this NAFTA and other trade agreements were signed and just as Ross Perot said during his campain, the " giant sucking sound of our jobs leaving " sponsored by our own government to ship work overseas to China ,India and Mexico ect. to top that off as our good paying jobs were leaving loan restrictions were eased because Clinton wanted EVERYONE to own a home and could borrow up to 125% of the homes over appraised value because no one was overseeing this process.

So just as Bill Clinton experienced the good fiscal practices of the Republicans during his first term and beginning of his second, Bush got to experience the poor polices of the Clinton years plus the 9/11 attacks that shut down the market. Jobs were gone. People couldn't afford to make house payments and the recession began. Not because of Bushes policies but those of the Democratic President Bill Clinton.Once you folks learn to look beyond the here and now and look at the root causes of our problems you will see with a more balanced opinion not what you currently see with partyline blinders on

Is Romney the best for the job ? I don't think so. Is Obama the right man for the job? I KNOW he isn't and he has proven he isn't. I Voted for President Obama in 2008. I will not make that error in judgment again.

Rightwing lemmings STILL in denial of their ReTHUG overlords lies when even FAUX news couldn't even fathom them anymore, and couldn't hide the facts. The GOPers can crammed only so much lies in someone's throat without that person puking it back out or burst!

Republicans have blocked EVERY SINGLE jobs bill because if Americans suffer long enough, it helps Romney. This has been the ultimate goal of the RNC when Jaba the HutRush LimPburger ORDERED them to make Obama fail.

Here is a correction to another lie by the right. Seniors pay attention.

Obama cut $700 billion in wasteful spending from Medicare without touching the benefits, extending the life of the program until 2024, and used the savings to lower seniors' drug bills and give them preventative care without co-pays.

Yet another correction: Ryan's shamless lie about the autoworkers,

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/31/1126591/-Janesville-Auto-Workers-Slam-Paul-Ryan-on-Ed-Show

As for the QUESTIONABLE story of Mitt's dad giving his mom a rose everyday. This is the same story I heard from a visiting priest in our church early this year. His sermon was of his grandfather giving his grandmother a rose everyday, and when he pass away, members of the family took over and gave a rose to the granmother until she passed away. Am sure there are a number of loving husbands doing this for their wives. BUT WHY ARE WE JUST NOW HEARING THIS??? Wouldn't this have been told already about George Romney's biographers or something? Did Mitt's writers just made this up? And being that Mitt is such a pathological liar he can play the acting part? Sorry, this is just not cutting it. And to all my fellow women folk, please don't buy into this! Regardless if his father bought his mother a rose or not, this does NOT change how Romney really treat the women folks here in this country. His queen Ann and the women in HIS own family maybe, but for us - the Repuglicans WAR ON WOMENS RIGHTS IS STILL ON!!

The greedy obstructionist party of NO, will continue their shameless and bullish ways to lie about facts, and CON the American people to vote for them. This is not only disrepect to Obama, but to the ALL the American people. Do they really thing people to be that stupid not to see that?! They must have very low opinions of their mentally challenge rightwing lemmings base!!! Reminds me of the "LoveFool" song of the Cardigans. Yeah fool me, fool me....... and we saw a lot of foolish people at the RNC convention!

So this November show Republicans what you think of their UNPATRIOTIC TACTICS.

This November, show the ReTHUGLICANS what you think of their lies and hypocrisy!!

Do NOT allow yourselves to be fooled!

VOTE DEMOCRATS! VOTE FOR OBAMA!

"I love these Repubs blaming Clinton for what happened on Bush's watch. Now Dems aren't allowed to blame economy or anything else that happened before Jan. 2009 on Bush."

• Republicans have a very short memory. From 1976 to 1992 you whined and cried, moan and groaned and complained and complained more and bitched, carried on and on and blamed President Carter of everything wrong in the entire universe. Then from 1992 to 2008 you whined and cried, moan and groaned and complained and complained more and bitched, carried on and on and blamed President Clinton for everything that was wrong in the entire universe. So – using the standard you set – the left has another 29 years to blame Bush for everything just to pull even with you.

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answer to your question:

The current Moody’s Analytics baseline forecast is for payroll employment to increase by 12 million jobs from the start of 2013 to the end of 2016 (134 million to 146)....

@Charlie-1915998

So Mitt -- you've been bitching and whining about President Obama for months. Tell us Mitt --- what are YOU going to do to make things better. Don't run off a bunch of talking points like cut taxes or more glittering generalities. What SPECIFICALLY are YOU going to DO?? Give us real DETAILS. Tell us your plans.

Charlie,
Mitt and the Repubes aren't going to answer so let me give you the latest software upgrade for the Mittbot 2012 v.4.1.257 and the individuals sampled to rewrite the code:

Economic policy=George W. Bush
Foreign policy=Dick Cheney
Domestic Social policy=Rick Santorum
Personal integrity=Richard Nixon
Charisma=Bob Dole
Motivational ability=George H.W. Bush
Chance of winning=Barry Goldwater

Obama 2012/Romney 1040

I bet Romney goes through cases of Hand Sanitizer after "having to" shake the hands of us regular folk!

And yes, "having to" is correct as he sure doesn't want to mix company with us much less shake our hands.

Obama/Biden 2012

Romney promised to 'create 12 million new jobs'. The CBO reported that the economy is set to gain 12 million new jobs over the next 4 years under the current policies. Can he set the bar any lower than that?

In politics as in business, Romney is ready to accept the fruits of others' hard work.

What is Amazing is the effective numbers of Americans who have been
Conned/Fooled by the republicanCrimeCartelPropagandaMachine. Think about it...
These Very Well monied, SnakeOil Saleman, MittTaxPittanceRommel and his SideAssKick, Eddie Munster, are The Elitist Thugs Contolling and Manipulating America in their favor, ACTUALLY Stealing America's economic power. Research it: These Republican 1-10% wealthy and corporate Thieves have OVER $20 Trillion Dollars Stashed in Overseas accounts in their names and registration numbers. Money needed for rebuilding America NOT Bloating their elitist "family wealth" for the future of their "Little Darlings" SUCH AS Rommels $48,000,000 Malibu Mansion WITH an InHouse Car Elevator for his son's $180,000 Ferrari.
Try this one on for size: President Harry Truman in 1948: "The Republicans … will try to make people believe that everything the Government has done for the country is socialism. They will go to the people and say: "Did you see that social security check you received the other day—you thought that was good for you, didn't you? That's just too bad! That's nothing in the world but socialism. Did
you see that new flood control dam the Government is building over there for the
protection of your property? Sorry—that's awful socialism! That new hospital that they are building is
socialism. Price supports, more socialism for the farmers! Minimum wage laws? Socialism for labor! Socialism is bad for you, my friend. Everybody knows that. And here you are, with your new car, and your home, and better opportunities for the kids, and a television set—you are just surrounded by
socialism! Now the Republicans say, 'That's a terrible thing, my friend, and the
only way out of this sinkhole of socialism is to vote for the Republican ticket.'" And, AND!, AND!!! that was 64 Years Ago!!!. The republicanCrimeCartel
is still doing the same exploitation of people THEY ARE NOTORIUS FOR. BUT,
according toKingGeorgeTheVacuumBrained, it is called "free market" capitalism; with families in the streets and 25% Unemployment.......

Fellow and Sister Americans: A vote for ANY republicanCrimeCartelSoldier, Rommel, is a vote Against Yours and Your Family's Well Being.

Crankky old bigot

Your comment would be relatatable if I were a Republican but i am not. So you shoot arrows into the air and hope to hit something.My comment was fatual but you fail to recognize it as such. It takes time for major policy to begin to work. But for many it is easier to not look deep enough to see the truth. this is a big reason we don't see much difference regardless which party has control of the White House. the fact is the President doesn't run the country Congress does and instead of focusing on the Presidential campain we cshould be focused on the real policy makers campains.

Romney should be careful throwing the big "naught" around because that seems the be the very same number of his Afro-American support. That said, there must be a margin of error in there someplace as there were a few dark faces in the auditorium including Condy Rice who was brighter than the lot of them.

The REAL REASON Mr. Eastwood talked to an vacant chair:

Because Mr. Obama is an EMPTY SUIT and he is running on ZERO. Maybe we could "make sure our tires are inflated, that way we can wen America off foreign oil"....... per Mr. Obama.

Romney-Ryan to take back America from the Progressives and the RADICALS.

Right On Schedule: The republicanCrimeCartel Created this disaster back in
Reagan's time and Perfected it with the Bushies, especially With KingGeorge the
VaccumBrained during his NOTORIOUSLY SHAMEFUL Shrubber Reign 2001 - 2008. THEY
ARE Causing this Depression we are back into to get people mad at Prez O and
vote for Rommel and Whomever his love mate is. YOU KNOW what Rommel's got in
mind For US???: A HUGE American military, OTHER PEOPLE's Sons fighting Newly
thought up And VERY PROFITABLE WARS for 1-5%ers Riches and Corporate Wealth, And
NO American Universal National healthCare System. Even Prez O was "forced" to
cut a deal with the powerful health insurance industry. Does ANYONE KNOW what
the ceo of United HealthCare took Home for 2008 Salary? Hold onto your hats:
$128,000,000 *C A S H* WHILE, Mind You, their paid policyHolders were denied and
DIED. The FACT that America HAS NO Universal HealthCare System like THE OTHER
COUNTRIES, WHO TAKE CARE OF
THEIR CITIZENS who need medical attention and
help instead of fattening the wallets of the EVIL Rich and paying for Unending
Wars, IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE. FACE IT Sister and Bother American, Rommel IS ON
THE SIDE OF THE FAT INSURANCE COMPANIES And WILL MAKE SURE We Americans Are
Denied A Wonderful HealthCare System like in Germany or Israel, WHICH WE
AMERICAN TAXPAYERS PAY FOR TOTALLY FREE FOR ISRAELIS. YEAH, A LOT of US are mad
at Prez O; The Man Has ROYALLY SCREWED UP LATELY: He let the $4.00+Gas and oil
go by without a protest OR Complaint to the Justice Dept Going after the oil
companies for Price Fixing And PRICE GOUGING. AND that shaking hands with karzai
of afghan
after what he said????? "thanks sucker taxpayers..." NONEtheless
HAS ANYBODY got an idea what republicanCrimeCartelSoldierRommel will do to US
and ANY economic progress made?? He WILL GUT US LIKE A FLOPPIN' FISH ON THE
DOCK.....You're gonna' see Unemployment up to 40% and NO Social Security..Gotta
Pay for New Wars And NO MEDICAL CARE At All; republicanCromeCartelPanacea:
Sick??, No "health care insurance policy"? awww.. Sick?..Well, DIE
QUICK!!!!!
AS "healthcare" policies cost SKYROCKET out of control. And Rommel
and his LoveMate Rubio, Like Rommel and Goebbels, are gonna' give you the
republicanCrimeCartelPropaganda Lies; You Love Your Family? Don't Go for it. You
Don't care?? Go Ahead, vote for these two Politaphiles and see what
happens.........................

Here's the rundown on Mitt Romney's devastating record as
CEO of Bain Capital, a tenure marked by bankruptcies, bailouts, and mass layoffs
— all while Romney and his partners raked in Billions of Dollars in profits for
the firm and Romney himself amassed a Quarter-Billion Dollar
Fortune.
Romney's Bain Capital Caused Mass Layoffs, Sent Jobs
Overseas
Thousands of Americans were laid off by Bain Capital at companies it
purchased, managed, and, at least a quarter of the time, drove into bankruptcy,
ruining Lives, Destroying Careers and Families including Many Many Suicides
While stuffing his pockets, Keeping his Darling son OUT of service to his
country with the line "My son is Fulfilling his Patriotic Duty by helping me get
elected"...Got that one?? and, Of Course, installing the InHouse car elevator
for his "darling little boy's $180,000Ferrari....Listen Up People...This guy IS
Count Dracula In carnate. A vote for ANY Republican politico is a vote against
Yours and YOUR FAMILY'S Well Being. You can take that to the bank.

The housing bubble is the same scheme that has been done time and time again since the 1500's. Interestingly enough, each time it arises from the same republican arguments that we have today. Give the wealthy more money to stimulate the economy! Then the money is diverted into another scheme that ends up costing the taxpayers more money. Remember the savings and loan disaster in texas in the late 1980's - does it not occur to anyone that the same scam was perpetrated on the nation when bush became president??? The republicans rewrote the laws from texas that let the same thing happen to the nation. Now that is their platform for 2012??? Gee, I guess they are right! Americans are dumber than s&!$!!!

Mitt..kicks...and screams...

GOP Lies & Distortion Factory

First off I like to say hi to all my cousin down to 50 removed. You know what, that is all of you. Now I like some of you more then others. But never the less we are all cousins to some degree. Cousin Mitt is a little too greedy. Cousin Obama is also smart and is trying to what is best for this country. He has tried many ways to get this country moving forward. Only to be blocked by the republicans. They blocked these ideas for only one reason A CHANCE TO GET A REPUBLICAN elected to the presidency of the USA. If they passed all Obama plans, this country would be almost fully recovered or in way better shape then it is now. The republicans held us back and now try to blame the president.

We are all family and it time we start acting as one. Like we did when we all put Neil and others on the Moon

One stick can easily be broken many sticks are strong.

United we stand divided we fall. Lets get it together cousin.

Michael says: "How in the f*ck would you know if they cannot even show you who they are?! LMAO....'tard"

So where is Romney's tax returns? It does not bother you that he cannot show you who he is?

Did you quit that nasty union you hate belonging to yet Michael, or is that just more of the same old pot calling the kettle black hypocritical ranting we have come to expect from you tough guy. I can see why you identify with a phony like Romney, lot's of talk but the actions and facts never match up with the words.

Financial Firms Face Subpoenas on Tax Strategy

The New York attorney general is investigating whether some of the nation’s biggest private equity firms have abused a tax strategy in order to slice hundreds of millions of dollars from their tax bills, according to executives with direct knowledge of the inquiry. The attorney general, Eric T. Schneiderman, has subpoenaed more than a dozen firms seeking documents that would reveal whether they converted certain management fees into fund investments, which are taxed at a far lower rate than ordinary income.

Among the firms to receive subpoenas are Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Company, TPG Capital, Sun Capital Partners, Apollo Global Management, Silver Lake Partners and Bain Capital, which was founded by Mitt Romney, the Republican nominee for president.

>>>www.nytimes.com/2012/09/02/business/inquiry-on-tax-strategy-adds-to-scrutiny-of-finance-firms.html?_r=1&emc=na

It is estimated that with the economy the way it is that 12 million new jobs will be created in the next 4 years.

By whom? Well, by Mitt Romney and his crack economic team. And you know them - they are the same ones who helped George W. Bush with his economic plan:

Romney economic adviser Glenn Hubbard apparently has a very short memory. ... It's puzzling that Hubbard doesn't remember this, considering that he was the chair of President George W. Bush's Council of Economic Advisors from 2001 to 2003.

So, it is not surprising that Romney's economic plan looks sooo much Bush's. So let's look at the record. 12 million new jobs in one term equates to an average 250,,000 a month. Bush, using the same policies managed to achieve that how much?

Well, the data is available from the BLS. Download the monthly jobs data and check it yourself. You'll find that Bush created 250,000 or more jobs a month for exactly 9 months out of his 8 years (96 months) in office. Less than 10% of the time.

Frankly, I don't think Romney will do even that good!

Willard, your pants are still on fire!

Of course, the central theme of Mitt Romney and the rest of the GOP was "We build that" The parade of clowns kept on saying "You build that", referring to the wealth that some of the accumulated through the years.

WE, THE PEOPLE PAYED FOR THAT ASININE CONVENTION. THE BILL IS 18 MILLION FROM TAXES. tTE REST IS PAID BY THE LOBBYISTS.

THE GOP IS FULL OF CRAP

Willard, your pants are still on fire!

It's like a sowna over there... no mas pantalones!

.

Headline reads: "Romney Tackles Economy"

Rmoney doesn't actually ever "tackle" anything. He simply skirts the defenders and continues running his illegitimate path.

1 million more jobs were created in just the last 7 months than were created during President Bush’s entire first term, 48 months.

And yet, unemployment has been above 8.1% Obama's entire term (with close to two years above 9% and almost a year close to 10%)...and is going back up as of right now!. How can that possibly be with ALL these jobs created?

Oh, that's right, you forgot to mention how many jobs were lost. A simple oversight on your part, I'm sure.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Rmoney doesn't actually ever "tackle" anything. He simply skirts the defenders and continues running his illegitimate path.

Where as Obama's taking full credit for the oh-so-successful economy that we're in right now...

...oh, wait...

So many buzzwords and false statements...so little time.

The "Blame Bush" mantra is still going strong, four years later, I see.

Obama himself said if he couldn't get it done in three years, he'd be a one-term president. What, you don't believe your own messiah when he says he should be voted out if he can't fix it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmRgaKfWMPA

Bush didn't get a "surplus" from Clinton, because a surplus can't exist when there's a huge national debt. Why is this so tricky for people to understand?

http://www.politicalforum.com/budget-taxes/262592-clinton-surplus-myth.html

You liberals whine and kick and scream about the wars, but you conveniently forget the VERY SIMPLE fact that many of your democrat leaders VOTED for those wars. Yes, Harry Reid, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton ALL VOTED for those wars. In both the House, and even more so in the Senate, the democrats voted for it. Say it with me, the democrats voted for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

You might be too young (and are certainly too stupid) to remember Jimmy Carter. He got a real bad economy because of OPEC's little embargo in the 70's. And just like Obama, things went from bad to worse. Unemployment went through the roof, inflation/stagflation were rampant and loan interest sky-rocketed.

The difference between the two administrations is that people had brains back then and could see failure staring them in the face, unlike today. Back then Carter didn't blame everyone around him past and present, because if he had, he would have been laughed off the planet. However, not only is Obama not laughed at, the press and mentally challenged people like you allow him to NOT accept any responsibility whatsoever for the economy, even when he himself claimed at the beginning of his administration that if he couldn't "get it done" he deserved to be a one-term president.

Can any of you Obama apologists give me a time-frame as to when it WILL be Obama's economy, if four years isn't enough? When he gets voted out in November, will your claim be that Obama was the only president never to be be responsible for the economy?

It is beyond hypocritical of the GOP to continue to point to the successes of the US human spaceflight program and the technological advances from it that we continue to receive today. This is the same party that slashed the Apollo program even as the first moon landing was taking place. They repeatedly underfunded programs like ISS and the Space Transportation System (Space Shuttle) whenever there was an opportunity. And most recently have mercilessly attacked the development of US commercial space businesses while insisting on diverting funding to boondoggles such as SLS because they keep the gravy trains running through the districts of powerful Republican senators and congressmen (e.g. Shelby, Hatch, and Hutchinson). Just go back and listen to the (snarky) response of their presidential candidate when he attacked Newt Gingrich in the Florida debates for mentioning a well-known and vetted plan for US commercial and scientific development of the moon. His answer was that he would fire anyone for presenting a plan like that to him; yet he'll stand there and take a bow for something that the nation did that was far riskier and cost far more in the funding at that time. What an idiot and a fraud.... and his handlers are just as stupid for letting him do it.

When the two campaigns were recently given the opportunity to express their views about the future of the US space program; the Obama campaign responded immediately, answered the questions to multiple media outlets, laid out their roadmap - which is based on developing more US commercial space businesses while assigning NASA more deep-space missions, and sent representatives for additional follow up. The Romney campaign finally came back with his plan to "form a committee and relook at this". You can see the latest on this here: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-08-31/news/os-romney-nasa-policy-20120831_1_romney-administration-romney-first-mitt-romney.

There are some SLS / Constellation proponents that are very unhappy with the current NASA approach to cancel their pet design, but the bulk of the US aerospace industry is excited to see a way to move forward faster. At least we have an affordable, sustainable plan that doesn't bust the budget like SLS did/does I sincerely hope that we can continue to make progress at the rate we've seen in the last few years. If for no other reason, this is a good enough one for not voting that idiot M.T. Suit (Romney) into office. How good a manager could he really be, if this is how he approaches one of the key technology areas in our country?

Mitt the Vulture does know a thing or two about economics, but his economics is about screwing up the Middle Class to feed the Vulture, selfish vulture.

The Office of the Presidency is better under Obama's control to benefit the great multitude of the Middle Class.

This is a fight worth every ounce of the strength of the Democrats and the Middle Class in stopping Mitt the Vulture from succeeding.

Romney! Release your tax records and talk about Afghanistan!

Obama release all the Fast & Furious documents ( that involved the death of a US agent ) - why aren't you demanding to see that Mr. Binkie ?? Is it possible you don't care to know WHY Obama is hiding them ??

Mr Romney is fond of Ryan's budget. Ryan's budget calls for a 70% reduction in funding for The Veterans Administration. So---we're good enough to serve in wartime, yet not get the benefits that were part of the deal?

After seeing Romney and his sidekick Ryan lie, lie and lie again at the American Nazi convention; it makes me sick to see how many foolish Americans still support this dog abusing, tax evading serial liar.

Mitt the Twit is just full of sh**.

But Feisty is right, too - Mitt is just a draft-dodging, tax-evading, liar and PUTZ.

Cranky old Bigot

It takes alot of time repair the damage from

Sorry, every recession and depression except the great depresssion and this recession rebounded within 4 years of the initial collapse point back to the employment level before the decline.

Unemployment October 6, 2008 was 6.1%, we are at 8.2%

The reason we were so extended in the great depression and this depression is because democrats took over the government because of the crash and overregulated, causing people to hang on to what they had instead of investing in new ventures. All other Recoveries, such as 1921-23; 1961 - 1964; 1981 - 1984, 2002 - 2005, all were about cutting taxes, and cutting regulations.

• So Mitt -- you've been bitching and whining about President Obama and the economy for months. Tell us Mitt --- what are YOU going to do improve the economy? Don't run off a bunch of talking points like cut taxes or more glittering generalities. Don't tell us about your business experience -- tell us what SPECIFICALLY are YOU going to do to improve this economy?? Give us real DETAILS. Tell us your plans.

The true 1% Billionaires will be left holding the bag when the middle class Republicans realize they are not included in Mitts plan to Bain us.

It's nice to see that Gallup and Rasmussen are on the same page again, showing a lead for Romney over Obama of about 3% among Likely Voters.

For those who don't understand polls, there is a Democratic bias of about 4% in polls of Registered Voters because history shows that Republicans are much more likely to vote. For an explanation, consider the following link;

http://www.polimerican.com/adults-vs-registered-vs-likely-voters/

The libbies are in panic mode... just read their posts! LMAO

Stick to the economy Mitt.... little barry can not defend that!

The libbies are in panic mode... just read their posts! LMAO

Panic mode? Not hardly...

Which brings me back to the question I have asked all week, why are the RWNJ's in a rabid hate-fueled frenzy when last week was supposed to sell to America what the GNOP is all about! lol

Are you man enough to answer it Marky? Cause none of your ilk have been able to say a peep!

Too funny!

Stick to the economy Mitt....

Please do!

America can't wait to return to the very same policies which drove us off a cliff the first time around!

America can't wait to return to the very same policies which drove us off a cliff the first time around!

carrot top must be drinking again.... Bush created a problem.... Obama intentionally made that problem worse.... Barry's intention is to increase our debt as much as possible and he's doing a great job there... but he also wants to knock America down a couple notches in the World order... in that he's doing pretty good... another term and he will succeed.

If you love America it can only be Romney/Ryan in 2012 and 2016!

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL "America can't wait to return to the very same policies which drove us off a cliff the first time around!"

And which policies would that be - perhaps the Democrats insisting that even unqualified people should get to buy a house? And the policy of Barack Obama, as a lead attorney, to sue lenders to force them to make house loans to unqualified minorities? (see link below).

http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/obama-sued-citibank-under-cra-to-force-it-to-make-bad-loans/

And do you really think we should keep Obama's policies in place that have resulted in the most anemic 'recovery' since the Great Depression, with fewer people working now than when Obama took office?

HELL YES Cranky Old Bigot!!!!! Tell them Stage 5 Dementia hypocrites.

There were more jobs created in Obama's 3.5 years than during 8 yrs of Bush41 and Bush43 combined.

Job gains could have been much higher were it not for the treasonous Republicans delaying or blocking everything the Democrats proposed.

@Roy Wilson: Here you go sculpting turds again. If Willard is lucky, He might do as well as "Dole" did against "Clinton". I wouldn't bet the margin will be that solid just yet though.

You might be too young (and are certainly too stupid) to remember Jimmy Carter. He got a real bad economy because of OPEC's little embargo in the 70's. And just like Obama, things went from bad to worse. Unemployment went through the roof, inflation/stagflation were rampant and loan interest sky-rocketed.

The problem with this idea is that under Obama, things haven't gotten bad to worse. We lost 4 million jobs the year before Obama took office, and another four million jobs in his first six months. Since then, we have been slowly clawing our way back. Unemployment is going down, but since the Federal government also keeps laying off workers, unlike the way we behaved in other recessions, we are not recovering as fast as we like. You can thank the small-governmenters for that.

Beyond that, though, consumer sentiment is slowly improving, the market is up about 80% since the time Obama took office. So no, things could be a lot better, but the good thing is that we have turned the corner and are headed up.

The Republicans' big problem is that they HAVE to win this election. Otherwise people will start to realize beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is the sort of policies liberals and Obama favor that are good for the country.

http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/?p=blog&id=172

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Commonsenseguy1: @2.6

Feisty (Fishy) Has been here all day because she has to earn her paycheck from First Read. Isn't that obvious?

Where did Romney mention the economy and what he would do for it? All I saw was a cheer for what the government has done, the jobs that government created. Is that a republican theme? No. Republicans keep saying the government can't create jobs. I guess Romney proved them wrong.

OBAMA/BIDEN and all Democrat congressional campaigners 2012, because our jobs depend on it

Romney 1040

If the Republicans ever come up with an actual economic plan, it will likely be announced days before the election so the fact checked truth will have little time to spread to the majority of the populace.

Where as Obama's taking full credit for the oh-so-successful economy that we're in right now...

Short memory, eh?

...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.

April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.

DJIA Dec 26, 2008 8515
DJIA Aug 31, 2012 13090

Dec 29, 2008 (Bloomberg) U.S. corporate earnings fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.

May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.

I remember. And because I remember, I won't be voting Republican this Fall!

Hey Numbskull, those were not Bush policies that led to the melt-down. Clinton gutted the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 and replaced it with Risk-Based Deregulation and sub-primes. This is what led to the melt-down.

Clinton also signed NAFTA which is the mother of all out-sourcing.

America deserves better then the two GOP Chickenhawks !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sandy.......get your facts straight. The government didn't build the space program............private aerospace and others did.........the government financed it through tax dollars. Where did they get the tax dollars ......by gosh, from me and you and from businesses we built and from their employees. I know its hard to be informed but just using a little common sense would be helpful.

Sandy: And guess who ended NASA! The GOP, so no more man on the moon! Romney is not very wise to remind us that the GOP has stopped any American progress, NASA, environmental protection, EPA, voting, roads, education, healthcare. GOP motto: Let Granny DIE!

Patriotic Idiot U.S.A. - so America deserves a 2-bit community organizer from Chicago who probably applied to college ( after he did his drugs ) as a foreign student from Kenya or Indonesia. How many times did Joe Biden get deferrments from serving in Vietnam ... was it 5 or 6 ?? Romney at least served as a missionary and did some good.

baliman post 3.4

All soliid Fox Lies talking points, gee baliman how obvious can you get.... BTW: Is being a missionary for a religious cult a good thing? Troll, Troll go away and don't come back another day..........

Obama is a zero, alright.

GOP = Greedy Old Perverts...the Antichrist

The government didn't build the space program.

Actually, the government did. Or are you going to try to pretend that Neil Armstrong was a private employee?

The scientists, etc., were all direct government employees and were hired by NASA. If you want to learn more about did this, you can read up here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

Private industry was not involved. In general, our current setup is indeed inefficient. That is because we outsource most of our government functions to private contractors. If you want to look at what we are capable of achieving if we keep private industry out of it, just look at the moon shots or WWII. On the other hand, if you want to see what happens when private industry gets involved in government functions, look at Blackwater.

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Romney at least served as a missionary and did some good.

Really? Spreading the word about his cult, the disappearing golden plates and his Magic Underwear?

How is that GOOD? It's nothing but cultist nuttery and whack-jobbery.

Where are the cowards in the GOP? Where is their usual talk about VALUES? There is no talk --- because they have no values. They are being led by a cultist now.

Where is all their talk about MILITARY SERVICE? Another of their usual talking points? NONE!! Because their cult leader hides behind his cult to avoid serving his country.

Mittens = Coward

GOP = Cowards and Hypocrites

Right On Schedule: The republicanCrimeCartel Created this disaster back in Reagan's time and Perfected it with the Bushies, especially With KingGeorge the VacuumBrained during his NOTORIOUSLY SHAMEFUL Shrubber Reign 2001 - 2008. THEY ARE Causing this Depression we are back into to get people mad at Prez O and vote for Rommel and EddiMunster, his love mate. YOU KNOW what Rommel's got in mind For US???: A HUGE American military, OTHER PEOPLE's Sons fighting Newly thought up And VERY PROFITABLE WARS for 1-5%ers Riches and Corporate Wealth, And NO American Universal National healthCare System. Does ANYONE KNOW what the ceo of United HealthCare took Home for 2008 Salary? Hold onto your hats!!!: $128,000,000 *C A S H* WHILE, Mind You, their paid policyHolders were denied and DIED. The FACT that America HAS NO Universal HealthCare System like THE OTHER COUNTRIES, WHO TAKE CARE OF THEIR CITIZENS who need medical attention and help instead of fattening the wallets of the EVIL Rich and paying for Unending Wars, IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE!!!!!!! FACE IT Sister and Brother Americans, Rommel IS ON THE SIDE OF THE FAT INSURANCE COMPANIES And WILL MAKE SURE We Americans Are Denied A Wonderful HealthCare System. YEAH, A LOT of US are mad at Prez O; The Man Has ROYALLY SCREWED UP LATELY: He let the $4.00+Gas and oil go by without a protest OR Complaint to the Justice Dept Going after the oil companies for Price Fixing And PRICE GOUGING. AND that shaking hands with karzai of afghan after what he said????? "thanks sucker taxpayers..." NONETHELESS, Has ANYBODY got an idea what republicanCrimeCartelSoldierRommel will do to US and ANY economic progress made?? He WILL GUT US LIKE A FLOPPIN' FISH ON THE DOCK.....You're gonna' see Unemployment up to 40% and NO Social Security..Gotta Pay for New Wars And NO MEDICAL CARE At All; republicanCrimeCartelPanacea: Sick??, No "health care insurance policy"? awww.. Sick?..Well, DIE QUICK!!!!! AS "healthcare" policies cost SKYROCKET out of control. And Rommel and his LoveMate Lyin'Ryan, Like Rommel and Goebbels, are gonna' give you the republicanCrimeCartelPropaganda Lies; You Love Your Family? Don't Go for it. You Don't care?? Go Ahead, vote for these two Politaphiles and see what happens......................... Here's the rundown on Mitt Romney's devastating record as CEO of Bain Capital, a tenure marked by bankruptcies, bailouts, and mass layoffs — all while Romney and his partners raked in Billions of Dollars in profits for the firm and Romney himself amassed a Quarter-Billion Dollar Fortune. Romney's Bain Capital Caused Mass Layoffs, Sent Jobs Overseas Thousands of Americans were laid off by Bain Capital at companies it purchased, managed, and, at least a quarter of the time, drove into bankruptcy, ruining Lives, Destroying Careers and Families including Many Many Suicides While stuffing his pockets, Keeping his Darling son OUT of service to his country with the line "My son is Fulfilling his Patriotic Duty by helping me get elected"...Got that one?? and, Of Course, installing the InHouse car elevator for his "darling little boy's $180,000Ferrari....Listen Up People...This guy IS Count Dracula In carnate. A vote for ANY Republican politico is a vote against Yours and YOUR FAMILY'S Well Being. You can take that to the bank.

Ryan should go back under his Rock, life goes on without little RyRand !!!!!!!!!!!

RyRand?

Patriot - That's a good one

Ann Romney Tuesday: "We got married and moved into a basement apartment. We walked to class together, shared the housekeeping, and ate a lot of pasta and tuna fish."

Ann Romney in 1994: When Mitt Romney was running for Senate in 1994, his wife gave a candid interview with Jack Thomas of The Boston Globe, published October 20, 1994. She told Thomas that after their Hawaii honeymoon, Mitt transferred to Brigham Young University. Back then, she still thought of that time as tough. But she wasn't as good at describing it, suggesting that it was rough living off stock options:

"They were not easy years. You have to understand, I was raised in a lovely neighborhood, as was Mitt, and at BYU, we moved into a $62-a-month basement apartment with a cement floor and lived there two years as students with no income... Neither one of us had a job, because Mitt had enough of an investment from stock that we could sell off a little at a time."

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/08/fact-checking-ann-and-mitt-romneys-hardknock-early-years/56321/

60's vet--you DO know that there is a DIFFERENCE between letting a company (in this case GM) DIE, and letting it go into BANKRUPTCY?

A company that goes through a bankruptcy is FORCED to change the bad things it was doing that caused it to get into trouble financially. You know--like only building gas guzzlers that most of the 99 % cannot really afford? Or like paying benefits to the union workers that cannot be sustained? Or even (and I'll say this, the bail out DID take a stab at lowering wages of top mangement) cutting salaries and workers?

Bain Capital took 80% of the companies it took over (ALL of which were in trouble financially and already in danger of going belly up) and made changes, and turned them into successful businesses.

If Bain were a baseball player, or a teacher, or a small business, you'd say they were a tremendous success.

So do the people who WORK for the companies that Bain saved.

However, Bain did NOT take the money that individuals had invested into those companies, and hand it to the labor unions to bail out the union pension funds.

And just to be CLEAR--many of those who had invested in GM were teachers, nurses, plumbers,etc. (thru THEIR union) and shop owners, and little old ladies like me. You know, the 99%.

I respond--sorry, but my parents and grandparents gave me stock as a kid--one share at a time, for birthdays and Christmas, all AT&T (which they considered SAFE) and a couple of years after the Ex and I got married, we used that to buy a used Volkswagon so I could have a car to go to work.

The fact that Mitt had "an investment in stock that they could sell off a little at a time" does NOT mean they were wealthy.

It meant that his parents/grands SAVED and invested for his college. You might try doing that for YOUR kids. And PS--that AT&T stock was bought for about what my parents might have spent on a normal birthday present. They put a little away out of each paycheck to save up for the once a year outlay.

You might try THAT too.

GOP Lies & Distortion Factory

♥ your posts and that avatar TNT. You are annihilating the tea sucking baggers.

Of course facts mean nothing to right wing nut jobs. I can prove it; Romeny's campaign said it.

Romney advisers say their most effective ads are the ones attacking Obama over welfare, and that they will not allow their widespread denunciation by fact checkers as false slow down their campaign one little bit:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/fact-checking-for-thee-but-not-for-me/2012/08/28/cccd6036-f11d-11e1-892d-bc92fee603a7_blog.html

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All the doubtful traffic comes thorough the the Tea Suckers primarily Sean KKKanity. You know the man with the full stomach. He regurgitates the same crap 24/7/365/ days

Obama Communist

Obama friends with Bill Ayers and Rev Wright

Obama is a radical

Obama wants to turn America into European socialism

Obama Yada yada

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Ann Romney 2012: "I saw the long hours that started with that first job. I was there when he and a small group of friends talked about starting a new company. I was there when they struggled and wondered if the whole idea just wasn't going to work. Mitt's reaction was to work harder and press on."

The Real Romney, by Michael Kranish and Scott Helman: At Bain & Company, founder Bill Bain treated Romney "as a kind of prince regent at the firm, a favored son." He selected Romney to start and run Bain Capital. "It would be Romney’s first chance to run his own firm and, potentially, to make a killing," they write. "It was an offer few young men in a hurry could refuse. Yet Romney stunned his boss by doing just that." They continue:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/08/fact-checking-ann-and-mitt-romneys-hardknock-early-years/56321/

Patriot you aced it☺

Willard/RyRand never!

Irespond - that was the opinion of the writer of the article, not a fact. You really need to learn the difference.

If you talked to my Wife's co-workers, they would call her the favored one in the company. That actual fact is she does her job well, and they don't. Businesses only survive if they give the work to the people who get the work done well. That is not favoritism, it is smart business.

What the author did was interview the sour apples, not the owner.

Db, could it be your wife is "friendly" beyond the scope of her job? Or maybe there is no official scope of her job, and she tends to stick around "off the clock" just to help out, or she will not ask for a raise during this economy , or she doesn't have the children to look after, or freeloader husband(?). Your analogy is filled with Mitttisiism's, nothing there and hard to prove wrong. You bring up nothing about ethics in the workplace, just your personal supposed gain,,,,,,,,,,how rude and egotistical. Your the loser and can't see it for the forest.

The left is now in full, name calling panic mode, hair on fire, running, screaming into the night. Does my heart good. Sigh.

John, look all you have to do is go back to Breirbat.com, FauxNews.com or any of the fraudulant websites that have been throwing Sh$t at the POTUS for the past three years +. Your type can dish it out, but can't take it in return. Pure Hypocracy, just look at your own comments here on NewsVine, than figure out what went wrong for you.......Don't try to dummy us down to your level as DB, Roy,(the supposed Master in Finance, who can't read a report or historical graph in relevance) and those who use our talking points to spin THEIR own story........What Government Agency are you on the lamb with? Communist. Back to Faux News to You and yours. Victory is ours.

Bob

You insulting comments have as much basis to reality as the sources you stuff your head with.

I have not worries about my wife and her boss.

DB, your political innuendo, lies and unsupported comments for the past years are better set in the sites I mentioned above.......Funny how few conservatives quote FauxNews, BritBrat or the other "conservative" value message boards and media, just goes to show how much of a flim-flam game you support. And as for your wife, I DON'T care, but you seem to infer more into my statement then can be read into it gramatically..........so sad, but that is the true nature of the right, "there is something wrong with those people over there."..........LOL. Get the point. Don't try to dummy us down to your level, and "suppose" or "seems to me" your b.s. values.

Here is your link to your POTUS in 2003, passing the "Dream Act of 2003" the first 0%down Federally backed mortgage, signed and sponsored by Rick( I'm so moral, and believe people should work for what they get") Sanitorium and passed by All Republicans during a election year,,,,,,, with citations,,,,,,,http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0502c.asp . How long after do you think it took the private industry to offer such rediculous terms, to stay "competitive" with your "free market"? Grow a pair and than get back to me, about what you are on the lamb from the Federal Government for,,,,,,,,,,LOL.

If you care about you family,

If you care about your country,

If you care anything about the truth,

If you have the courage to do this,

then

Watch this video described and available at this link

http://Bruce-1628250.newsvine.com/_news/2012/09/02/13615732-when-mitt-came-to-town

This could be the most valuable thing you do before deciding how to cast your vote for the President of The United States of America in 2012.

This could be the most important election you will ever cast a vote in, during your entire lifetime.

Don't blow it by being uninformed!

DoctorLogic -

Your post, as well as your moniker, reeks of what the Repubes think is a dirty, evil word: LOGIC! Are you trying to make their head explode?

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O&Joe 2012

You know logic is taking a back seat when you have supposed "journalists" that, when reviewing speeches at the RNC, say things like "the Paul Ryan speech had numerous inaccuracies, but I thought it was a good speech".

Facts, logic etc. seem to be secondary (for some) in today's political culture.

President OBAMA Shows to be everything Romney is not and that's a Leader !!!!!!!!

Doctor Logic--sorry, but what I remember of the economy crashing was the HOUSING market. And Bush, for all his warts, (and I certainly never voted for him) didn't have ANYTHING to do with that.

Now, if you want to talk about Bush fighting two unfunded wars, GOOD. I didn't like that and said so with disgusting regularity.

However, Obama has been running up the 'unfunding' at nearly TWICE the rate BUSH did. WHY would you approve of THAT when you didn't approve of it when Shrub did it?

And sorry, but since the 60's the Dems have been pushing banks to loan money to buy houses to people who really had no business doing so. Did the pubs fight that hard enough? Nope, but they occasionally tried.

The fact is, the Dems want banks to loan money to people who are a poor risk, and then if the person fails to pay, the bank should be forced to 'eat that' loss. And it doesn't work that way.

MOmaid:

Doctor Logic--sorry, but what I remember of the economy crashing was the HOUSING market. And Bush, for all his warts, (and I certainly never voted for him) didn't have ANYTHING to do with that.

Hard to argue with someone so clueless. Amazing that anyone can hold someone who had been president for eight years blameless for something and then hold a new president at fault for everything there after even when it's under the old presidents budget.

Sorry to enlighten you but even when you blame congress for passing bills you have to blame the president who signs them unless he vetos them and nothing to do with housing passed by congress was vetoed by Bush.

Obama didn't bail out the banks Bush did. You don't even know who did what. Ever here of TARP? It was a Bush plan passed by congress on Oct. 3rd, 2008 which was 3 1/2 months before Obama was sworn in.

Only a third of Americans (34%) correctly say the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) was enacted by the Bush administration. Nearly half (47%) incorrectly believe TARP was passed under President Obama. Another 19% admit they do not know which president signed the bank bailout into law. Notably, there is no partisan divide on the question. Just 36% of Republicans, 35% of independents and 34% of Democrats know that the government bailout of banks and financial institutions was signed into law by former President Bush. And Democrats (46%) are just as likely as Republicans (50%) to say TARP was passed under Obama.

How are so many people misinformed about the TARP "bailout"? It's not just Fox-watching Republicans (who are often grossly misinformed by the channel) but Democrats as well. Doesn't anybody check their facts anymore? Or do people just choose the facts that support the narrative they want to believe? Bush bailed out the banks and fueled the greatest Recession in generations. Why blame it all on the guy trying to clean up his mess?

"...the Dems have been pushing banks to loan money to buy houses......"

Yea, right.......and the banks fought that tooth and nail by selling those mortgages to firms like Goldman Sachs, all the while recording record profits as they shifted the risk. Rationalizing their greed by saying that real estate would never drop in value in the "boom-boom" economy of the 1990s.

Goldman Sachs then bundled those mortgages and sold them as investment grade, with the help of Moody's and Standard & Poors, all the paying out record bonus's and covering the risk by insuring their product if it failed through AIG.

Then the "boom-boom" economy staggered, and foreclosures dropped property values into a continuing death spiral.

No, the banks were not innocent pawns of the "ebil Guberment", they were willing accomplices because the profits and bonus's were too good. Each and every one of those banks had the option not to play, to get out of the mortgage business altogether.

But they didn't, because the gravy train was just rolling down the tracks full steam.

They chose to stay and play, taking the money and shifting the risk to the next guy up the investment chain. And when the music stopped playing, everyone "too big to fail" without a chair got taxpayer money to make them whole again from Secretary of the Treasury Paulson, not Obama.

Reward without risk, no wonder the banks stay and play.

CPO,

You don't know the half of it. The loans were bundled and sent to any investors by the original mortgage writers. They are the ones who initially sold the bad loans as good. Goldman Sachs was a middle man who bought them, and re-sold them to investors. At some point Goldman Sachs had to know they were getting and selling bad loans. Converting mortgages to securities has been done for years. Home mortgages have long been considered solid investiments. What was new was they were no longer a good investment.

Goldman Sachs wasn't the only one doing this selling bad loans, so were some of the Big Banks. Big banks make very few FHA type loans, only the federally mandated minimum. Why Citi, BoA, and Chase had so many was they either bought bundled loans AND bought mortgage service companies that already bought l loans from Mortgage making companies. Some of the big banks caught on to the deceptions and then joined in playing hot potato by trying to unload them.

Doctor Logic--sorry, but what I remember of the economy crashing was the HOUSING market. And Bush, for all his warts, (and I certainly never voted for him) didn't have ANYTHING to do with that.

That is probably the most uninformed, dishonest statement of any that I have seen here.*

[*exeptions being any posts from DB Akron and Roy Wilson]

Give concrete examples of how Obama has been "devisive"?

Also, think back to 2009 when the economy was in free fall.....what did the GOP do to help the economy?

He is just a bad, sad, devisive POTUS.

Once again, a scripted lie brought to you courtesy of a right wing stool pigeon. Probably never heard of and certainly never used the word divisive before in his life.

You notice the shift in tone now, however. Now, instead of calling Obama a socialist...they are saying he 'tried hard but just didn't get the job done' in an attempt to reach a few in the middle. It is so blatently political and simple minded...

By the way, I know I won't get a response.....I never do. These clowns spout rhetoric they hear on Fox or Rush and never substantiate their claims.....it is really quite pathetic.

When he was elected he took the bull by the horns and has done and is doing all that he can for the economy. What's sad are the people who don't take any responsibility for their own mess! I know people who re-fied almost every time you turned around and used their houses as glorified ATMS. Whatever happened to having a down payment when you buy a home? What were the banks thinking when they allowed 100% financing and in some cases, poor credit history? President Obama is responsible for some people's poor choices? I don't think so. He didn't promise that he was going to fix the mess that a lot of us contributed to, overnight. I think a lot of people would do well to look to themselves and what they may have done to be in the financial straights that some people are in.

You can thank "W" for the mess we are in, he destroyed our Country !!!!!!!!!!

PS - How did the debt-clock get from the Reagan Library to the GOP Convention ???????????????

Victor,

How will you deal with 4 more years of an Obama Administration? Better start planning..

@brad

Nevada will be history if there is another 4 more.

12% unemployment, housing market destroyed, food prices skyrocketed...NEVADA CANNOT TAKE ANYMORE OF OBUMMER HOPE AND CHANGE.

I don't think Florida can ither. 8.6% unemployment(higher than the national average) NUMBER ONE IN FORECLOSURERS IN THE NATION.

Missy,

Actually, Obama did promise to fix the mess that was created. He got dealt a bad hand for sure. However, whatever the reason, whatever the excuses, he has not been able to right the ship. He has been devisive as he promotes his class warfare garbage. That much is clear.

He tried but as was clear before the last election, he just did not have the qualifications to to fix the problems he inheritied. In fact, he made them worse. Not his fault. But this is what should be expected when we vote in a junior senator and community organizer as the POTUS.

And he broke promises. The one that ffries me the most is that he promised to close Gitmo down in year 1 of his term. We know how that has turned out. Heck, he does not even talk about closing it now--four years into his term. I can only conclude that he supports torture down there. So very sad.

Nevada will be history if there is another 4 more

You can always open more casinos. Nevada's REAL source of income is gambling and prostitution. Real GOP "values" when the wife isn't watching.

Once you get out of Vegas, there aren't even lizards that like that sinkhole.

victor - Congress (some Democrats and most Republicans) directly blocked the funding required to shut it down. So now of course the President is being blamed by some for "breaking a promise" on Gitmo. Yep, now that makes lots of sense . . . not!

Sources:

http ://www .washingtontimes.com/news/2010/dec/8/congress-deals-death-blow-gitmo-closure/

http ://online .wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704774604576036520690885858.html

Matthew,

I see. It is somebody elses fault that it is not going to close down. If that is the case, then why did he promise to close it down in year one? Certainly he must have known how Congress worked (well, maybe he didn't).

I can only conclude that he either did not know how Congress worked or he lied when he committed to it. Either way, it is inexcusable that it is still open given his promises. Or, maybe he supports torture. I really do not know what his excuse is. I do know one thing though: he clearly had no intention of ever closing it down. That much is plain as day at this point.

Let's not forget, it was HIS committment to close it down. NOBODY elses. If he thought he had a potential opportunity to shut it down, that is what he should have said. Not that he would shut it down when he had no guarantee that he could.

In other words, lets face it: he flat out lied to us on that one. Period.

Matthew

There were only two cities that stepped forward to take the trials. New York and Chicago. Chicago, backed out. After New York understood that the fed reimbursement was in adequate, they didn't want any more either.

What is inexcusable is even bringing these people onto our shores.

I agree....I loved to see MHP state it like it is. Mehta is just another right wing clown that keeps repeating the same b.s.....she needed to be called out.

Dennis, Columbus, Ohio

REB,

1 million more jobs were created in just the last 7 months than were created during President Bush's entire first term, 48 months.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth

Dennis

" MYTH" and his drones make up fantasies about President Obama out of desperation because they just can not literally see the reality that's right in front of them. Failure at just about everything; apart for making the GOP (Greedy Old People) nomination for the umpteenth time.

4 more yeas 4 44

Obama/Biden 2012

Romney said if he's elected the TeaTards in Congress will give us 12 Million new jobs !!!!!!

That Mehta woman (I use the word woman lightly), was totally disgusting! MHP put it to her and all the TeaPeople. Mehta, the daughter, first generation, of immigrants should be ashamed.

It is sad that Republicans often only have to put the 'shiny object' in front of the electorate to get elected. They talk of "freedom" and "opportunity"....if you're people like Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan who were born into millions.....then, heck yeah, you have all sorts of freedoms and opportunity. If you're poor, financail freedom and opportunity is nearly non-existent.

If you were paying attention, you would know that he created his own job.

Doc...where did you get your degree?

"he created his own job . . . " Facts seem to disagree with this.

In 1977 he was hired by Bain and Company, a management consultant firm.

In 1983 Bill Bain offered Romney the chance to head a new venture firm, Bain Capitol.

Nope - Mitt Romney "didn't build that" by himself.

Maybe Obama will hope to sprinkle some of his "Rock Star' magic during the Convention to guantee a win for this state in November. The only problem is the magic is gone now that he has a record to run on. Sorry Obama, not this time!

Road....

Actually, I disagree that having the convention in Tampa was a bad idea....Florida is an important swing state the Republicans MUST win; if they lose Florida they are almost certain to lose.

What WAS stupid was having the "we built it" convention in a center that was built by government funds and union workers! Gee, you think the Dems might make a little hay over that little detail.

I also disagree with the fact that having it in NC....recently, NC has swung in Obama's direction. You should read recent polls...NC is hardly "turning red" as you state.

All that aside...the RNC will be remembered for several things.....one, that Paul Ryan delievered a completely factless, baseless speech. That is precisely the opposite of the aura they tried to build around Ryan as the smart, tell-it-like-it-is guy. He has completely lost that aura now. Then there is stupid lies like when he told Runner's World he completed his last marathon in less than 3 hours....which is better than world class speed. He's backtracked on that now...but what a stupid lie?! It is stuff like that that will resonate with the completely disassociated voter.

Plus, you have the Clint Eastwood fiasco.....between now and the election, you'll see clips of a senile old Eastwood talking down to and disrespecting a fake Obama. That's all the GOP needs....another senile old man talking down to a person of color. Great optics! (sarcasm)

I feel sorry for Mittens,come November 7th he will be seen talking to empty chairs and vending machines while Obama WILL be in the White House !!

Maria -

Come November? Wait till he has to try to justify his BS when confronted during the debates.

As far as talking to empty chairs, it seems like they (the chairs) have a lot to say. At least the one that was talking to Clint Eastwood at the convention.

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O&Joe 2012

Dee "Patriot"...

Problem is Dee that the GOP failed to provide a reasonable alternative. Unlike your crew, people don't hate Obama....they know he was dealt a nearly impossible hand to play. While they may be disappointed about where we are...the plurality doesn't blame Obama. A recent poll still blames Bush for the economy by 20 points over Obama. Plus, when asked Obama vs. Congress....people realize congress has been useless and they give Obama a break...there's a reason congress has a 10% approval rating.

GT, Yes, and speaking of empty chairs, I heard the Democrats are giving away free DNC tickets to fill all the empty seats they have. I hope they get the job done, otherwise Obama will be talking to a bunch of empty seats (empty, just like his record)!

Doctor, If you listened to some of the speeches, epsecially the one from Rubio, he summed it up perfectly, just like the majority feel, Obama is not a bad person or unlikeable person, he is just a bad President! As far as Obama's performance with Congress, Romney will have to make the case that it is Obama's leadership failure that had a role to play with this do nothing Congress, his inablility to work with both sides and divide the parties even further in dreadlock. ROmney as Governor worked with an 85% Democratic legislature and balanced the budget and left his state with a surplus. He will work with a divided Congress as President because he has done it successfully as Governor. Obama will do nothing different!

Dee....

Answer this question for me.....how many jobs have been net lost over the last 30 months?

I'll give you the answer: ZERO!

Answer this question for me.....how many jobs have been net created over the last 30 months?

I'll give you this one too: OVER 4 MILLION!

This is according to the non-partisan CBO (not some biased reporter on the right or left).

Right.....what an empty record! (sarcasm)

By the way.....I know you folks hate this...but, who presided over the killing of Osama Bin Laden and 14 other Al Qaeda leaders? That one you can answer......

Doc,

You can place blame, cite circumstances or where the candidates stand on specific issues, but you can only make one conclusion from the poll question “Is the nation going in the right direction?”

Two separate polls have 63% saying we are not on the right track. Nobody who answered that question “wrong track” will vote for the incumbent.

GT, Yes, and speaking of empty chairs, I heard the Democrats are giving away free DNC tickets to fill all the empty seats they have. I hope they get the job done, otherwise Obama will be talking to a bunch of empty seats (empty, just like his record)!

Dee, It's pretty naive to think that the DNC can't fill empty seats. If they put loud speakers outside of the hall when O speaks, a million people will show up to hear him....

Besides, there's nothing abnormal about talking to empty chairs. It's when the empty chairs start talking back to you, such as at the RNC convention, that you better start worring about your sanity.....

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O&Joe 2012

Doctor, you know this small anemic growth we are seeing does not keep up with population growth and where we need to be. Yes, there is small growth in jobs (even though I have questions on where the growth is) but you can not credit Obama's policies for this anemic growth we are seeing. It is the market's natural progression that is doing this as it has done historically during bad times. I will be surprised if you can name one pro business policy from Obama that has contributed to job job growth! Sorry, I just can't credit him for this one. We should do better, certainly not with Obama's anti business policies and his increased hatred for big businesses.

It's pretty naive to think that the DNC can't fill empty seats. If they put loud speakers outside of the hall when O speaks, a million people will show up to hear him....

GT, It is pretty naieve of you to think that Obama's magic that worked 4 years ago will work today. Yes, 4 years ago, people would run to see "Rock Star" Obama but now as our economic situation worsens with unemployment lingering over 8%, people struggling for jobs and our growing historic debt, I don't think people would be running this time to listen to him, don't count on it!

Two separate polls have 63% saying we are not on the right track. Nobody who answered that question “wrong track” will vote for the incumbent.

Road -

Whether being on the right track or who you are supporting, and voting for are two entirely different questions....Not to mention, how the question is asked....

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O&Joe 2012

The following is an excerpt from the Huffington Post by Sam Stein on a great book written by Robert Draper, detailing a meeting of some republicans, to plot and plan that President Obama would not be successful and therefore the country would fail. You will note that the Republican current nominee, Paul Ryan, was in attendance and like the rest there had no intention then or since of doing anything to help the President help the country and our citizens:

www.huffingtonpost.com/.../robert-draper-anti-obama-campai..

WASHINGTON -- As President Barack Obama was celebrating his inauguration at various balls, top Republican lawmakers and strategists were conjuring up ways to submarine his presidency at a private dinner in Washington.

The event -- which provides a telling revelation for how quickly the post-election climate soured -- serves as the prologue of Robert Draper's much-discussed and heavily-reported new book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives."

According to Draper, the guest list that night (which was just over 15 people in total) included Republican Reps. Eric Cantor (Va.), Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), Paul Ryan (Wis.), Pete Sessions (Texas), Jeb Hensarling (Texas), Pete Hoekstra (Mich.) and Dan Lungren (Calif.), along with Republican Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.), Jon Kyl (Ariz.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), John Ensign (Nev.) and Bob Corker (Tenn.). The non-lawmakers present included Newt Gingrich, several years removed from his presidential campaign, and Frank Luntz, the long-time Republican wordsmith. Notably absent were Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) -- who, Draper writes, had an acrimonious relationship with Luntz.

For several hours in the Caucus Room (a high-end D.C. establishment), the book says they plotted out ways to not just win back political power, but to also put the brakes on Obama's legislative platform.

"If you act like you're the minority, you're going to stay in the minority," Draper quotes McCarthy as saying. "We've gotta challenge them on every single bill and challenge them on every single campaign."

The conversation got only more specific from there, Draper reports. Kyl suggested going after incoming Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner for failing to pay Social Security and Medicare taxes while at the International Monetary Fund. Gingrich noted that House Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) had a similar tax problem. McCarthy chimed in to declare "there's a web" before arguing that Republicans could put pressure on any Democrat who accepted campaign money from Rangel to give it back.

The dinner lasted nearly four hours. They parted company almost giddily. The Republicans had agreed on a way forward:

Go after Geithner. (And indeed Kyl did, the next day: ‘Would you answer my question rather than dancing around it—please?’)

Show united and unyielding opposition to the president’s economic policies. (Eight days later, Minority Whip Cantor would hold the House Republicans to a unanimous No against Obama’s economic stimulus plan.)

Begin attacking vulnerable Democrats on the airwaves. (The first National Republican Congressional Committee attack ads would run in less than two months.)

Win the spear point of the House in 2010. Jab Obama relentlessly in 2011. Win the White House and the Senate in 2012.

"You will remember this day," Draper reports Newt Gingrich as saying on the way out. "You’ll remember this as the day the seeds of 2012 were sown."

Draper's timeline is correct. On Jan. 21, 2009, Kyl aggressively questioned Geithner during his confirmation hearings. On Jan. 28, 2009, House GOP leadership held the line against the stimulus package (Senate GOP leadership would prove less successful in stopping defections).

The votes, of course, can be attributed to legitimate philosophical objection to the idea of stimulus spending as well as sincere concern that the secretary of the Treasury should personally have a clean tax-paying record. But what Draper's book makes clear is that blunt electoral-minded ambitions were the animating force.

Whether or not that's shocking depends on the degree to which one's view of politics has been jaded. What's certainly noteworthy is the timing. When Mitch McConnell said in October 2010 that his party's primary goal in the next Congress was to make Obama a one-term president, it was treated as remarkably candid and deeply cynical. Had he said it publicly in January 2009, it would likely have caused an uproar.

By extension, however, the Draper anecdote also negatively reflects on the Obama administration for failing to appreciate how quickly congressional Republicans would oppose the president's agenda.

All I have to say, The Huffington Post as a source?? LOL!!

Whether being on the right track or who you are supporting, and voting for are two entirely different questions

GT,

Really? Two separate polls asked that question. If you don’t think the current president is leading the nation down the right path, you’re going to want four more years of it?

Go Jackets!!

http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2012/08/22/analysis-election-factors-points-romney-win-university-colorado-study-says

Dee...

It is painful talking to you people....you all use the same rhetoric: you call Obama anti-business, however, the facts show Obama has CUT taxes for small businesses 18 times in his first term. Folks like you talk about "regulation" but never cite any specific regulations that should be cut.

You call yourself a "patriot" but you cannot do something as simple as argue a topic based on fact and merit. It is absolutely unpatriotic to continue to spew hatred and lies for pure politcial purposes. Your neighbors and friends deserve to have a country that exercises democracy by an informed electorate....not one that simply spew simple talking points.

while Obama WILL be in the White House !!

Well, hallelujah!!!!! He is going to finally get there!! My question is: where has he been for the last four years? Oh, wait, I know! He's been out campaigning for another 4 years!

Oblameo does have one thing in his favor: he will go down in the record books for spreadin the most blame onto anyone and anything, and he holds the world record for the most apologies to other countries on behalf of the United States.

Romney/Ryan 2012!!!!!

2013: the end of an error!!!!!

Doctor, My definition of Democracy does not include taking wealth from one class and distributing it to another. Encouraging class warfare, pitting classes against each other and punishing success from hard work is not my definition of Democracy. A strong economy requires work and compromise from both classes, not encouraging more division and hatred. I wanted to believe 4 years ago during Obama's acceptance speech that he would unite the parties and bring us together but he let most of us down. Sorry if this does not feel like a Democracy. There has never been so much hate as I have seen in this administraion. Just my feelings....

Road Warrior said....

You can place blame, cite circumstances or where the candidates stand on specific issues, but you can only make one conclusion from the poll question “Is the nation going in the right direction?”

Basically, you're admitting that facts don't matter it is all about perception. There is a historical figure that once said, "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." That seems to be what the GOP is operating by now.

BTW...the historical figure that said that line.......Joseph Goebbels who was the minister of propoganda of the Nazis.

Dee regardless of what you think about HP....the fact is not altered that the book was written, and no one at that meeting has ever denied it that it didn't happen. Read the book, it is available in stores and in libraries, it was just published in April 20012.

Basically, you're admitting that facts don't matter it is all about perception.

Doc,

You got it. Most people can't even tell you who the VP or Speaker of the House is. They look at politics from their personal circumstances. They see the unemployment rate. They see their company not hiring and everyone talking at the water fountain about possible layoffs. They see gas prices. They see the debt. They see wars. They see the nation divided. They don't look too much into the details. They say things are not looking good. Let's give someone else a try. That's what happened in 2008.

Doc,

BTW, why do you automatically assume the people who were polled based their answer solely on perception? You sure are high-minded. Maybe a person don’t think we are on the right track on social issues. Another person may based their answer on the debt. Another on the unemployment rate. Another on housing. Another on the wars. Regardless what they place their emphasis on, the bottom line is that is what is important to them when they vote.

Road Warrior--sorry, but I REGULARLY get polled, and the question is ALWAYS "Generally speaking, do you think that conditions in our country today are A) better than four years ago B) worse than four years ago, or C) about the same.

And note, many people TEND to vote for the 'first' item, and yet this question STILL gets 63 % who say 'worse'.

And that doesn't even COUNT the ones who said "about the same'', which is ALSO an indictment on this administration.

There is also a similar poll which replaces "in this country" with "in YOUR personal life" and it gets just about the same results.

NONE of the polls are even mentioning any of the other issues you raise. But if they did, I'd imagine the results are about the same. The debt is much worse, unemployment is basically unchanged, housing is still in the tank despite numerous 'predictions' that are mostly based on info REALTORS supply.

And like it or not, there are PUBS who are pro choice and pro gay rights (CLINT EASTWOOD, for one,) and there are DEMS who are AGAINST both (just look at CA's prop 8 for instance.

But most people do not base their vote on social issues.

To quote a former pol--"It's the ECONOMY, stupid."

MOmaid

First, you being polled "regularly" as you claim is not believable. Being one of 1,000 people out of a nation of 315 million selected randomly is against all odds. People saying the nation is on the wrong track is consistent with Obama's 45% job approval rating? I do agree most people don't vote on social issues. The economy is what they will based their vote. That's why the Dems concentrating on reproductive issues at the convention is a mistake. On who is better to handle the economy, Romney has a substantial lead.

Dee Patriot: Doctor, you know this small anemic growth we are seeing does not keep up with population growth and where we need to be. Yes, there is small growth in jobs (even though I have questions on where the growth is) but you can not credit Obama's policies for this anemic growth we are seeing.

Dee. You act like such a coward and a liar. You blame him for everything Dumbya Bush did, but of course, he cannot be "blamed" for any recovery during his own watch.

He walked into the White House after GOP Dumbya Bush had us bleeding out over 700,000 jobs a month. And you people like you want us to follow a Mormon Cultist and his Magic Underwear (that he truly believes in) right back to the GOP policies that brought us this recession and disastrous economy.

You're out of your goddam mind. AND you're a terrible liar -- you're very transparent, hon!

Let's give someone else a try. That's what happened in 2008.

No. What happened in 2008 was a departure from the calamitous GOP policies that brought us the recession.

Now, people like you want the US to follow a whackadoo mormon cultist who will bring those disastrous GOP policies right back.

No thanks!

No one said balancing the budget was going to be easy given our situation today with the spiralling, out of control deficit we have inherrited under Obama. But what we do know is that the Obama administration has no intention of cutting the deficit. Obama presented 2 budgets, all of them shot down unanimously by both parties. We have not seen a budget in almost 4 years from this administration.

Romnney will cut the deficit by addressing entitlemnets which the Democratic party refuses to touch for obvious political reasons. Once Romney gets working on the economy and get it growing again to finally get people back to work, the budget could be balanced within 10 years. Under Obama, the deficit will continue to spiral out of control and any tax hikes to the rich (job creators) will not even put a dent into our deficit but will harm growth and creation of new jobs the middle class desperately need.

Dee....

You are lying. Romney has no intention of cutting 'entitlements'.....he completely admits he wants to keep the entitlements to the oil industry.....he completely admits he wants to keep the entitlements to the health care industry.

If you actually think he is going to cut the deficit I ask you to read a paper. With the tax breaks he wants to give to the wealthy and corporations, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE to bring down the debt.

Here's some real numbers for you to chew on. The Obama "spending" binge is a myth....

The following are POLICY CHANGES instituted Bush and by Obama and their respective effect on the national debt:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24sun4.html

Information gathered from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO)

Bush: Total: $5.07T

Iraq/Afghanistan wars: $1.469T

Bush Tax Cuts: $1.812T

Non-defense discretionary spending: $608B

TARP/bailouts: $224B

Medicare Advantage/drug companies: $180B

2008 Stimulus and other changes: $773B

Obama: Total $1.44T

Stimulus/tax cuts: $711B

Non defense discretionary spending: $278B

Tax cuts: $425B

Health reforms/entitlement changes: $152B

Defense Savings: $126B

Plus, let us not forget Obama had to deal with an economy (left by Bush) that was in freefall.

Dee -

Wake up. O's not the problem. The Tea-Billy congress is. Obama is potentially the solution. Get out of his way and let him do his job.....

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O&Joe 2012 (In a landslide)

Doctor Logic, the EASIEST way to balance the budget is to GROW the economy. The more money being made, the more people working, the greater the TAX revenue.

But you knew that, right?

Like it or not, our economy is based on business, and business is being CHOKED by regulations.

Now, I'm not in favor of removing ALL regulations. But neither do I think all regulations are good.

Right now and for years, our economy's growth, when there IS any, is not keeping pace with inflation.

And if you are the one who buys groceries, you know that the figures on inflation are being skewed by what they are COUNTING and what they are not. My spending at the grocery store is up by nearly 15% this year. And I can't count the last time I bought BEEF.

Doctor Logic, you see, the problem with your post #12.2 is that Obama PROMISED to NOT be like Bush. so you don't GET to dump all of the TARP bailouts on Bush when Obama signed them. You don't GET to blame the cost of the wars in Iraq/Afghanistan on Bush, because for 3 1/2 YEARS (+) those expenditures (STILL UNFUNDED, I might add, even tho Obama/the dems OWNED Congress for 4 years.)

You don't GET to blame the Bush tax cut's cost ALL on Bush, because the dems could have repealed ALL of those from 2006-2010.

and you don't get to claim 'savings' in the military (from pulling us out of Iraq) when that pull out was already scheduled under BUSH.

As for the 'tax cuts' that Obama has enacted? Are you talking about the payroll tax reductions? Because you DO know that the lower amount being withheld for SS will result eventually in a SMALLER benefit for that individual? That is robbing the future to pay for the greedy present.

AND THAT, my friend is also what the ballooning deficit is all about, too.

I didn't like it under Bush, Never voted for Shrub. (Voted DEM in the last 5 presidential elections.0

So WHY would I think it is OK for a guy I DID vote for to keep being "like BUSH"?

He is continuing a policy of ROBBING my kids and grands to pay it out today to people who will VOTE for him. Only that WON'T be me this time.

And Romney? If HE doesn't do a better job, I won't vote for HIM again, either.

It's not about PARTY for me, it's about COUNTRY, and its future.

And BTW--regarding the 'gas/petroleum' subsidies--my DEM Senator said it best--with the price of gas over $4 a gallon, now is NOT the time to eliminate those subsidies. Read that again--she's a DEM.

Ellis--Would that be like John KERRY, who tried to avoid paying property taxes on HIS yacht, which despite living in and representing an area in this country which has a long history of being excellent shipbuilders, Kerry had built in SE ASIA?

Wow your math is messed up on so many levels it's not even worth trying to correct.

So, jfix, can't handle the truth, eh? Where does that number come from every month that details the number of NEW jobless claims, the work fairy? Oblameo's net jobs creation has been next to zero; he can't even keep up with the number of new high school and college grads entering the work force! If Obozo is so great, why isn't he walking on water in Nawlins? Why isn't Odumbo parting the seas and forcing the flood back into the Gulf?

I know, I know: you all can't handle the truth, so you have to make stuff up. Well make this up: see the long winding road going over the rolling hills into the sunset. See the couple, one tall and thin, the other tall and well-founded, walking down the road hand in hand into that sunset. The tall, thin one turns to the tall, well-founded one and says, "Well, honey, my golf handicap is down to 2 since I got to play almost every day."

they dont have to tell the truth so they call romney a "felon"...they say he killed a woman by giving her cancer somehow. even democrats are laughing at obamas accusations.

Hey Kecky -

O did not endorse that BS ad. It was a super pac that ran it, thanks to Citizens United.

On the other hand, the BS ad that ran saying O was gutting welfare, which was debunked as BS by all the media, and repubs themselves, was endorsed personally by Mitten's. And if you don't believe me, listen to the end of the ad where it says: "I'm Mitt Romney, and I endorse this message"....

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O&Joe 2012

the obama campaign keep saying "we've created positive job growth for 21 months straight".............I guess that depends on what they mean by "positive job growth" if losing 350-370k jobs a month for the last 42 months straight......but only creating 60-150k jobs each month means "positive job growth" ...then the romney campaign is going to bury obama with this.

according to obamas own labor dept we have lost 3.5 million jobs since 2009.....there is no where to hide from these figures.

what new plans does obama have to get the 23 million americans back to work ? ....green jobs ? .....shovel ready jobs ? ...blaming americans for his economic failures is not going to work this time either.

obama has plenty of blame to throw around.....but he wont own up to his failures.

obama likes to pit one side against the other, rich against poor....minority against majority.....citizens against illegals......what ever it takes for obama to get what he wants. i think americans are tired of his garbage.

Kecky -

I think you've been listen to too much Rush. And where did you cut and paste that BS from, Glen Beck's butt cheek?

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O&Joe 2012

GT--the Labor department says we have to create at least 150 THOUSAND NEW jobs every month just to 'break even' because of the NEW entrants into the job market every month--be they HS or college grads, legal immigrants, moms going back to work after the kids go to college, etc. Multiply that times 3 years and 9 months, and you get 6,600,000 NEW jobs that have been needed to be created under Obama, just to keep up with the NEW jobs seekers. That doesn't COUNT the number of job seekers who are "OLD" entrants into the job market via LOSING their jobs.

And those figures come (albeit in a HIDDEN way) from this ADMIN's own Labor department.

21???, no, more like 29 months:

http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/?p=blog&id=172

You may be an independent..wink wink...but you fit right in with the lunatic fringe of the right. I am not sure there was one thing true in your rant.

So let me get this straight.... you voted for Obama in 2008 and then discovered all these things you claim are true about Obama??? Yeah, uh huh. Sure you did. Totally believable.

Isn't it sad we voted in a Muslim

According to you TopDrum, you were one of the people that voted for him.... So you can look in the mirror when you're thanking someone.

Go ahead and whine all you want............it doesn't change a thing.

Uh read your original post. If anyone here is whining, it's you.

Jfix...............you're sarcasm lacks humor. Try again.

There's no humor intended. You're on here whining about Obama being all these things that you obviously don't like and then go on to say that you voted for him anyway in 2008. Then you go on to say we're whining. I don't think you understand what the word means. Oh and it's "your" not "you're". If anything here is lacking it's your grasp of English grammar and vocabulary.

JFix, you made some very good points. TopDrum appears to have the type of character makeup that is susceptible to cult figures or groups having been an Obama supporter and then making a 180 degree turn in his orientation. Drum appears to be a psychologists wet dream. BTW, Drum is also a one trick pony.

Tell me Mr. Ed..................have you ever served in the military? I have. I've earned my right to question anybody's faith regarding this country.

Drum, your posts lack substance but of course that is no impediment for you because you keep posting the same tripe.

Tell me Mr. Drum, have you ever graduated from an ACCREDITED institution of higher learning? I have. I've earned my right to call out stupidity when I read it. Comprendez?

Just what I thought. Why don't you go to a foreign country and kill 38 people because your country sent you there and then return, work another 40 years and see a Muslim destroy our country. KMA

In fact I have Mr. Ed...............Purdue University, BS in Mechanical Engineering........1974

Tell me Mr. Drum, I am having problems with my tennis backhand and I am sure that you are sure that your military training has more than adequately prepared you to comment on my backhand. Please provide some words of wisdom?

Purdue? 2nd tier school certainly not on the level of Harvard or Columbia?

Try another sport, sport.

I've done quite well with my education and career. What's yours?

TopDrum - you don't have to go to a foreign country and kill a bunch of people to earn the right to express your opinion. Our constitution gives you this right. You don't have to like Muslims or Mormons or Jews or African Americans or Latinos either. And you have the right to think this country should be controlled by rich white Christian men.

Wow, fighting for our country also gives a person expertise in theology. Imagine that?

Obama must be the worst Muslim after attending a christian church for 20 years (which was the argument by bobbleheads in 2008)

Thank you JIm.............at least there is one person among us that still has respect. I am not proud of killing and it still haunts me. Mr. Ed doesn't realize that type of pain veterans posses. Thanks.

I must say. I have listened to many military briefings and not once have I heard a military official say that they have the right to question somebody's faith as a result of their military service? Drum, that would probably make you a statistical outlier.........or crackpot.

Barack Hussein Obama ll is not an American, but an Islamic socialist.

Top Drum -

Sounds to me like you either need to get your "tin-foil hat"adjusted, or you need to check into getting your meds changed.....

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O&Joe 2012

Drum, please do not use your military service as a crutch to spew crackpot hair brained ideas. Let your crackpot hair brained ideas stand on their own.

Here's a quarter..................call someone who cares.

BTW Drum, you really need to get a better understanding of the difference between respect and enabling. I respect your service but I will not sit by and enable your asinine comments. Comprendez?

Here's a dollar, phone a friend because your posts need some substantive help.

Ed in Columbus there is an ignore button give old top base drum what he deserves. ☺

Obama/Biden 2012

TopDrum,

Mr. Obama is as much a radical Marxist as Paul Ryan is a closet bisexual.

Wait a minute....I need to find a comparison that ISN'T true. My bad.

Come out of the closet, Paul. Live free or die!

Top Drum, while I respect your service to your country, and your education, you need to go look at SNOPES on all your allegations re: Obama's childhood. Snopes discredits most of the 'barry Soreto' stuff you quoted.

And i'm NOT an Obama fan. But you lose credibility when you parrot untrue things, just because they support your own opinions.

• Yo TopDumb YOU STUPID LIAR!
• He never went by the name Barry Soetoro.
• Your entire comment is FALSE
• I do wish you LIARS would get some new lies. This one is really really worn out by now. For anyone who cares about the TRUTH, go to Snopes and read.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

It's fess up ...........got it?

Maze--you DO know that there is a difference between "helping the poor" and "supporting the poor for the rest of their lives no matter HOW many bad decisions they make''?

I grew up in the 60's and watched WELFARE make it more profitable to sit on your duff and do NOTHING but have sex and crank out babies that it was to stay in school and get a job. That is NOT 'helping the poor', that is PUNISHING those who DID work hard in HS, DID get into college or trade school, or even (shudder) a Union, and went out and worked hard, and made something of themselves.

The nearly half a century has PROVEN that 'welfare' that is not LIMITED does NOT 'help' the poor. The old adage 'you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink ALSO applies to people achieving success in life. I'm ALL for job training, educational assistance, Counseling on Birth control, child care assistance, but I'm TOTALLY against subsidizing ANYONE being on the 'dole' for life.

As the saying goes, Democracy fails when those who WORK for a living are out-numbered for those who VOTE for their living.

Or, to quote Margeret Thatcher--pretty soon you run out of OTHER people's money.

Name one time, in all of history, that the wealthy have been taxed into extinction. Just once, please. Even under communism, the wealthy WERE the rulers!

Why should we give the failure named Obama another 'turn'?

The way I see it, if you can't do the job, you shouldn't have the job.

How can you be content with what we have now? I doubt anyone could be worse as a leader of this country than Obama - and I remember the Carter years well, another democrat failure.

"There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt."

John Adams 1826

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012

Maybe he meant let go of the do-nothing Republican Congress. It seems to me that it is Republicans that are not doing their job

A clerk at Walmart works harder than the do nothing congresss, why aren't they getting those great wages and benefits.

Need a job--"it seems to me that it is Republicans who are not doing their job."

Need--EVERY Repub who was elected in 2010 was sent there to do EXACTLY what they are doing. A representative or a senator is "hired" by his constituency, to do what THEY want them to, NOT by the president, or the opposition's leader, to rubber stamp.

I was pretty honked at my DEM reps during the Bush admin for going along with 2 unfunded wars--and they COULD have shut those wars down by cutting the budget in 2006-8, and did not.'

But I was mad enough at my Senator's blind following of Obama on the HCB, DESPITE what her constituents were telling her, that I held my nose and voted for a PUB for Senate (not her seat, but her 'protoge' was the Dem Candidate) in 2010, to STOP the spending.

And I will be voting against Claire in 2012, IF the pubs can get rid of that bozo Akin as the candidate, adn I'll be abstaining if not.

So, sorry, even though I have mostly voted Dem in the past, and like Clint Eastwood, am PRO Choice, and Pro gay rights, I DO not want my representatives to rubber stamp the president or his party.

No matter WHO is president, and which party he represents.

Spot, just remember that the GOP got together as soon as Obama was elected. The GOP elite met on Inauguration Day over a steak dinner and plotted ways to obstruct Obama.Sen. McConnell distributed a plan to his GOP colleagues in the Senate to oppose anything Obama proposed whenever they could!

At a time of crisis, with the country’s entire financial system near collapse, with the economy collapsing, with the stock market collapsing, with unemployment skyrocketing, with people losing their jobs and retirement money, the GOP announced that their NUMBER 1 PRIORITY was to assure that Pres. Obama was a 1 term president---- even BEFORE he was sworn in!!!

They abandoned their duty to the American people for the sake of sabotaging a new president taking office in the midst of the greatest crisis since 1929.--- for the sake of political gain! I don’t know if that fit’s the legal definition of treason, but it sure smells like it and is at the very least, un-American and unpatriotic. Never before have I seen a political party abandon it’s country in time of crisis! NEVER!

Sao they gave Joe America the finger, got almost no important business done as soon as they got the filibuster back on Feb. 4, 2010. Then, having just returned from vacation, they went back on vacation for the GOP convention and the duration of the campaign! I agree with you 100%. They should be paid by the hour. If they arent clocked in, they dont get paid!

@tom....you sad, dillusional little man. He is a one term president, but that comes on his own actions and merits....not some conspiracy by the GOP. He is stupid. Dumber than a box of rocks. Everyone knows it, it's just stupid, inbred hillbillies like you who hate to admit it. Just remember, inbreeding is against the law and vote Mitt and Ryan on election day....if you can find the poll.....and no, it is not something you hump. Get a normal person to help you.