Working Title: "Inauguration Day"

Restaurant plot - January 20th, 2009.
Sabotage & undermine the U.S. Economy from Day #1 of President Obama's term. (Done.)

The caper
Prevent the economy from growing, blame the President for any fallout. (Done.)

The Method
Filibuster and block all job creation measures, fire govt. workers. (Done.)

Shock tactics
Create chaos and fear by attacking democracy = voter, women, worker & civil rights. (Done.)

The Payoff
'Small Government" Adelson billionaires & transnationals take control of the U.S. government.

The Players
*REP. PAUL RYAN (R-WI)*
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA), Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX)
Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX),
Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI), Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA),
Sen. Jim DeMint (SC-R), Sen. Jon Kyl (AZ-R), Sen. Tom Coburn (OK-R),
Sen. John Ensign (NV-R), Sen. Bob Corker (TN-R)
Newt Gingrich, Frank Luntz.

*Close-up camera angle on: Republican Nominee. Paul Ryan.

The new R/R campaign airplane looks marvelous

Is it a loaner from the Koch Brothers or Adelson?

Hey, it's Labor Day Weekend.

Republicans can create a mess. But they can't fix a mess. They offered zero ideas this past week, this past month, these past 4 years. Ronney, who has everything, offers nothing to the country he grew up in. Nothing but lies.

David Axelrod tweet: Ryan, who voted for two wars that weren't paid for, two budget-busting tax cuts and a unpaid for Medicare Rx program, moralizing about debt?

Pull up a chair. The Democrats are up. Yeah!!!!!!

I don't know about the rest of you, but I have had it with the direction the Republicans are attempting to take our country. We have an America that we need to leave the way it was left for us. Only better. That is our responsibility as citizens of the United States of America. It's what we have tried to inspire countries all across the world to do. This is a lesson we were all taught in America since the time we were children.

Do you know what's nice about today, Friday the 31st of August, 2012? What's nice about it is that the GOP Convention is in the can, and now is the time to reflect on what the Republicans did (didn't) do in the last four years in order to see Barack Obama, our president, lose in November. Everything the Republican Party did was in an effort to see more pain in America, more dignity sacrificed by one party, just so they could turn around and blame our president. Never once did they ask the American people what they, our legislators, could do to ease our pain. Never once did they show an inkling of leadership or sincerity in getting the job done. Instead, they spoke of abortion and slamming health care; they spoke of dismantling all the safety nets for the poorest of our fellow Americans; they spoke of self-deportation and voter suppression and doing away with birth control. They spoke of a fear of losing their guns and of a foreign policy as if we were still entangled in a Cold War. They spoke of letting the planet and our environment wither away. They put out there for the GOP pundits and supporters, the worst of the GWB war mongers who never once got a thing right in their years with the Bush Admin. They spoke of their passion - more tax cuts for the rich while we the American worker foot the bill. They spoke of "owning" America, yet hiding their taxes and putting their money overseas. They spoke of being job creators, while at the same time closing plants and getting rich because of it.

But worst of all, they spoke of a birth certificate. For four years.

And they had a large portion of our United States of America media help them spread their nonsense. Whatever crap the Republicans pulled out of their hat, our media gave it legitimacy. Time after time after time.

Today's Republican Party is a party full of incompetence and no ideas. A party full of lies and disrespect for all of us. It is why they did nothing when they had the opportunity. They did nothing when they faced the biggest challenge of their careers. To make American strong again.

They did nothing at a moment when they needed to do anything and everything. We gave them the power to work for us, and they turned their backs on us. Time after time after time.

It is President Obama who reached out to the other side time and time again because he knows you need the entire United States Government to work together for we the people. He believes that with every bone in his body. It's how he has lived his life - by reaching out, listening and working together. He at every moment of his presidency had our backs.

It was the GOP who long ago gave up that idea of team work. Once they sold out to the Koch Bros. of the world, they gave up on us. On we the American worker.

So now it's we the Democrats turn. Now is the time for all of us to stand tall next to our president. A president who made our country and we the people ten feet taller in just four short years. For we have had the good fortune of being a country led by a dignified gracious intelligent hard working President and First Lady.

If you are going to do anything for President Obama's re-election, now is the time to do it. If you were planning on donating, now is the time to reach out to Organizing for America (OFA) and donate $5, $10, $25, $100 - whatever you can afford. It doesn't matter. You will not only be investing in our president, you will also be investing in America and we the people. We need to stand together now more than ever. We need to have each other's back. This is the America we have to strive to be again.

Please also pay attention to your local congress people. Pay attention to your US Senator races. Donate to the Democrats in your state. Volunteer for the democrats in your state. We need people in government who aren't afraid to work hard for us. The GOP House and Senate has been one big giant waste of our time. They have left us nothing but a barrel full of lost opportunities to strengthen America.

I saw the following posted over at the DailyKos and thought is was a remarkable reminder of what we're fighting for:

I enjoy jaunting across the pond to read the Guardian's take on stuff here in the states, and to read the thoughts of the commenters over there as well.

Like these:

1. If Obama failed to bring change it was because the Republicans sought to wreck everything by forcing America to adopt Republican economic policies, which are generally disastrous.

2. Dear American Friends:
In 2010 the UK was hijacked by an unelected right wing Tory party who set out to cut taxes (especially for the rich), cut welfare, cut health care and cut everything else. They are doing all these things. The result for us has been double dip recession with no end in sight. That is what the Republicans are promising you. Bush did the same thing when he was President and wrecked your country. That's why you elected Obama. You would be mad to back to Republican slash and burn. It hasn't worked for us and it won't work for you.

Please. Now is our moment. Let's get to work and do it. Support our president. Support all democrats. Do not support republicans who are in this for the rich. As we have seen, they are of no use to the United States of America.

It is we the people who have always made America strong. The middle class. The working class.

In case you have forgotten this somewhere along the way - we matter. A lot.

And for the first time, in a very very long time, we have a president who can make a difference in our lives. For the better. But only if you present him with a Congress willing to work with him, for us. It's what our government is for. We the people. The rich think the government is only for them.

They're wrong.

Backhouse, you got it.

Check, check, check.

Feisty, Dennis and Pat! A good weekend to all,

Three years ago on President Obama's Inauguration day, more than 14 Republican leaders met in the Caucus Room, an upscale restaurant in downtown Washington.

They conspired to block and stall our economic recovery during a Great Recession -- the culmination of a lost economic decade for the middle class. They conspired to fail the U.S. presidency, in time for the 2012 election. Their object was GOP corporate control, even if it destroyed America in the process.

Sedition, treason or conspiracy?

These men plotted with hate propagandist Frank Luntz to bring the US economy down. And as agreed, GOP has voted NO to jobs bills for the last 31 months. Using a 60-vote requirement, GOP senators filibustered every job creation measure in lockstep.

TODAY Mitt Romney's role in this scheme, is to BLAME the President for any negative economic fallout created by the negative, destructions actions of GOP & their sponsors.

Pat, stellar - you.

GOP congressionals voted in continuous lockstep against every kind of job creation for the last 3.6 years. They filibustered at 3 times the pace ever seen in our history, and voted 3 times against two million jobs in the American Jobs Act.

These GOP leaders have no conscience. They didn't care how their actions hurt the American people when they pledged to sabotage our economy in 2009. And they still don't care TODAY.

And that is what GOP will be remembered for -- not an amateur theater audition by Clint Eastwood at their convention.

Feisty, good one. From what I've heard, the Honey Boo Boo show is even more incredible than my "niece's redneck neighbors' Jurassic Park.

Backhouse, well said. The GOP collapsed the economy, doubled the national debt and then on Jan 20, 2009, put Party First. They threw the American people under the bus and now they was us to elect them so they can do it all over again.

what did we learn during the RNC?:

1. My immigrant parents

2. My poor, immigrant parents

3. My hard working, poor, immigrant parents

4. My hard working, poor, immigrant, parents who made sacrifices so I would have a better life

Now that's all touching but it's also true for many of us. All the speeches were the same - just different names. Romney followed that outline and nothing separated him from any other speech made this week at the RNC.

Thank you Redhead and Backhouse. Time to really get to work. For Obama, for the US Senate, for the House. Me? Elizabeth Warren.

Can't WAIT for our Convention! Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the Honey Boo Boo show is even more incredible than my "niece's redneck neighbors' Jurassic Park

I'm sorry Jody, but that is just plain creepy! lmao

Alan, NJ

But Pat how is Obama different? Didn't he extend the budget busting tax cuts?

Thank you for bringing that up. Yes, Obama did do that. Why, you ask? Let's see

While the Republicans wanted to continue the massive, failed, and unpaid Bush tax cuts that Obama wanted to end, he finnaly gave in for this:

The James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2009, sponsored by Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.), would provide medical monitoring to those exposed to toxins at ground zero, bolster treatment at specialized centers for those afflicted by toxins on Sept. 11 and reopen a compensation fund to provide for the economic loss of victims.

and this:

Obama won a 13-month extension of unemployment insurance, a reduction in employee payroll taxes next year, and the continuation of a variety of tax credits aimed at lower- and middle-income Americans.

So you see, Obama gave in to the Republicans who only cared about the rich. Obama gave into the Republicans to help out the rest of us, the 98%, and those who bravely ran into collapsing building to save lives.

Interesting he'd mention growing up in an era that Americans were returning from war when he received 3 educational deferments and a missionary mission in France during the height of the Vietnam war and the draft. I notice he never mentions his reasons for doing this. I guess draft dodging is self explanatory.

Vapid, Void. No substance at All.

And Not once did Mitt Romney mention anything about his FELONY CHARGE that he conveniently AVOIDED by "RETIRING RETROACTIVELY" from BAIN CAPITAL when he was still CEO but had previously signed papers saying he wasn't CEO.

Not once did Mitt Romney mention anything about his hidden SWISS BANK accounts or his phony CAYMAN ISLAND shell companies where he LAUNDERIES all the PENSION FUNDS he has STOLEN from hard working Factory workers.

And his Wife's OLYMPIC SHOW HORSE that he wrote off his TAXES as a "THERAPY HORSE"?

don't get me started, don't even get me started! Ouch!

Ben-636050

@Pat -- Well my girly man you and Axledick seem to forget we were attacked on 9/11. Our people massacred and our military headquarters attacked.

yet, the Republican Administration that allowed this to happen, decided NOT TO go after those who attacked us.

and as Bush said: he's doesn't spend much time thinking about him....

no waste, anyone can be a nice guy and a crook at the same time. romney did a decent job delivering a well written speech, which once again spewed lies and fears, but he did a pretty good job delivering it, but cons are good at that kind of thing.

over all the convention was a drag, even the hired cheerleaders were a drag.

Bayllie, if I could vote twice for your post I would. The famously flg-waving Repubs forget how disgusting they acted during that time, withholding medical care for the REAL heros of 911 hostage to extended tax cuts for the wealthy. If that doesn't show the public just how little that party cares about the average American, I don't know what does. Thanks for taking the time to remind us of that. Not that the Alans of the world will get it, but the rational people appreciate it.

I was hoping for details on Romney's platform. I was disappointed.

Three days of the most boring and worthless waste of time in my life. Other than big Clint, it was an absolutley terrible Convention. All they ever did (and I mean all the so called Speakers) was slam, criticize and insult our President. Disgusting.

And, what did we learn about how their going to turn "things" around? NOTHING. What was the plan they set out? NOTHING AGAIN. Three days of hate and not one minute of WHAT they plan to do ( except throw President Obama out). What a bunch of losers. and they expect us to vote for them. I THINK NOT!

OBAMA IN 2012.

Alan, NJ

@Bill

My thought was that the Obama campaign has spent millions (or maybe hundreds of millions) trying to portray Romney as a caricature of evil and indifference.

do you know how Massachusetts feels about Romney?

Massachusetts sees Romney as a user and betrayer.

And as boston.com decribes it: He shed his Bay State political garments with the guilt-free ease of a practiced stripper.

I compare him to a pimp because he used Mass like a pimp uses a prostitute.

At least, President Obama doesn't have to spend millions to convince Mass residents what they already know about Romney

Pat, Boston, BRAVO!

I spend 3 days a week evenings and weekends volunteering at OFA, sometimes more. It is a coordinated effort here to re-elect President Obama and to elect local, state and federal democrats. While it is work and we are serious, it is also great fun. Even if a person can only volunteer one time for a few hours or can only drop off snacks and soft drinks, their efforts are appreciated.

Well I, for one, am very happy for Mitt Romney. He wanted this so badly he was willing to say or do almost anything to be his party's nominee and he has succeeded. Congratulations Mr. Romney.

Romney completely re-invented himself in order to get the nomination. He reversed his positions on almost everything he said he once believed. He changed his position on healthcare, abortion, gays and many other progressive issues in order to court the new, far right GOP and despite a few bumps in the road, he succeeded.

Or, is this the real Mitt Romney we're seeing now? Was the Mitt Romney who ran for Governor of Massachusetts just a poseur, a facade to get the votes of a more liberal constituency?

Or, is Romney a political chameleon prepared to change his color, his stance, in order to get elected? A man with NO core values or beliefs. A man who is governed solely by his ambition?

What does that say about a Romney Presidency? Will he have the courage and the convictions to stand up to the GOP in Congress or will he bend to their wishes? If the Democrats seize control of Congress will we suddenly see "Mitt the Progressive" again?

That is all rather worrisome.

But I'm happy for Romney none-the-less. He wanted this so badly.

It's a pity he'll be disappointed in November. But, at least he had his shot.

Obama/Biden 2012

**** Republicans and Democrats, Vote Libertarian! Gary Johnson 2012!

One take away I got from the small bit of media coverage of the Republican convention was the breakdown of the differences in the tax plans of Romney and Obama. Why the Republicans are so focused on cutting taxes for all, but mainly for those earning over $215K a year just seems so out of touch, especially in their Tea Party claims of the impending doom if we do not reduce the deficit. How can you say one thing and then do the exact opposite. Cutting taxes does nothing to spur the economy especially for those in the higher tax brackets. The Ryan and Romney plan proposes a cut of 6 percent or more for those earning over $215K. A 2 percent tax break for those earning less, or in their words, the Middle Class. What kind of twisted logic is that?

And for those who don't know Obama is proposing no changes unless you make over $250K a year and then your taxes will increase.

To me this seems like buying votes by the Republicans. I am not even going to get started on their Super PAC contributions and contributors. Very scary stuff to me.

Barack Obama's Main Accomplishments:

KNOCK OFF THE COMMENT SPAMMING!

You have posted this same @!$%# over 50 x's the past couple of days!

RTFS

Bayllie, if I could vote twice for your post I would. The famously flg-waving Repubs forget how disgusting they acted during that time,

every time a rightie post thatPpresident Obama voted to extend the Bush tax cuts, reply with to them saying exactly that. It shuts them up. They have no interest in explaining why the Republicans were ready to throw True American Heros under the bus. They cannot explain why people who selflessly ran into buldings that everyone else was running away from where not as important as the top 2% of Americans.

Forget the poor. We all know that Romney doesn't care about the poor people. But to deny medical coverage to the 9/11 First Responders is lower than low.

Obama 2012/Romney 1040

Now we know what the Romney campaign is.......a journey to the past.

Taking us back to the 50's, but without the "Happy Days" excitement.

Taking us back to the cold war.

But why is Mitt Romney taking us back?.......he has no vision for the future. All he has is the past.

Trickle Down economic policies of the Bush administration from the past.

School and Medicare voucher programs from the past.

Romney's fictional tax plan, dubbed by fact checkers, as "impossible" doesn't dazzle. It frightens.

Old images of Reagan, old abortion policies, promising prosperity to the rich on the backs of the working poor......all of these are OLD.

The only one that got it right was Eastwood, as crazy as that sounds, "what Mr. President? I can't tell Romney that. He can't do that to himself"........pretty much summed up the evening.

**** Republicans and Democrats, Vote Libertarian! Gary Johnson 2012!

Hell no. Libertarians tend to not have a clue.

NBC's First Read "writing team" has become something of a joke

So feel free to leave.

Ben-636050

Deflection bayllie. Keep your enemy off guard.

you mean like NOT go after him at all? - yeah, that's a GREAT plan. This is Bush's only "Mission Accomplished"

Now I get it!

Mitt Romney is Bob Dole, and he wants to go "Back to the Past"

How quaint.

Bob Dole was Boring just like Mitt Romney, except Bob Dole was a Real War Hero during WW11, whereas Mitt Romney his in France to Avoid the Draft.

Mitt Romney wants to go back to the Days of the Cold War and the fear of Nuclear Mutual Destruction. Thanks but no thanks.

And that's why this Republican is Encouraging Everybody, and I mean Everybody, to Vote a straight Democratic ticket come this November 2012.

Let's send Mitt Romney and the Republicans B"ack to the Dung Heap of History"

First of all, who gives you clowns the right to define what he MUST accomplish ?

Why, they're journalists, with BA degrees no less. Well, except for Todd, he didn't manage to get through college. But he did work for Tom Harkin, the ultra-leftist Senator from Iowa.

Jody, the blood, sweat and tears volunteers like you @ OFA put into campaigns is truly remarkable. You are all to be applauded for your hard work and dedication. I've never seen anything like it. I am constantly getting emails, telephone calls and mail from OFA. And I mean constantly. But I can honestly say that I don't mind. There's nothing like opening an email or envelope in the mail and seeing a message and photo from President Obama or Vice President Biden or Michelle Obama or Nancy Pelosi or Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Jim Messina or David Plouffe or David Axelrod.

Amazing organization. Keep up the great work. We're with you every step of the way.

Why, they're journalists, with BA degrees no less.

That sounds an awful lot like jealousy JoAnnaSmith1.

Republicans For Obama, what you said is 100% accurate. Romney is incapable of any new vision for America or the world in a 21st century.

Oh, unless you count car elevators. LoL

None of the GOP are thinking 21st Century. They're taking the easy road - the stuff we've already dealt with. It's like we've gone back in time about 50 years.

Meh...

Romney speech is like eating (drinking) luke-warm chicken broth with a 1 or two pieces of tiny chicken and a noodle. Nice guy, great mom and dad story, but nothing to write home about.

My problem with Romney. He is a REPUBLICAN! Today's republicans don't get it, don't want to get, don't think they need to get it. No more obstruction! So until they unplot their targeted downfall of the executive branch and House, I hope many of them go home (stay home).

@haggisbingo -- From Feisty:

KNOCK OFF THE COMMENT SPAMMING!

You have posted this same @!$%# over 50 x's the past couple of days!

Now we know what the Romney campaign is.......a journey to the past.

The past is the last thing the Democrats want to talk about, mostly the recent past, like the last four years.

Obama 2012 - "And now, we look back to the distant past, and have my good friend Bill Clinton talk about his love and respect for women"

You Obama supporters must Love Hitler.

Hitler was a fascist, which is a far-right system of government.

GOP Platform = "War on Women"

No women should even think of voting for GOP or Romney.

Just look at what the GOP has done in Congress:

Women would be required to have a rapists cretin baby (legitimate rape bills; Ryan/Akin)

Women would not be allowed to use any contraceptives (stupid personhood bills)

Women will not be allowed sex education in school (many bills)

Women will not be allowed equal pay for equal work. (many bills)

The GOP is on a mission to undo over 100 years of gains for women.

The GOP has put forth the most regressive, anti-women platform in a hundred years.

Now we know what the Romney campaign is.......a journey to the past.

But doesn't the latest Obama commercial point out how good the Clinton economy was and that Obama, by raising taxes on the richest, will take us "back" there?

As a Democrat I always try to watch both conventions with an open mind. Here's my take:

Night 1 - I didn't get to watch I went to bed early but from what I hear Chris Christie was all about himself

Night 2 - Missed Condi but heard she did well. Watched the Ryan speech. I knew he was doing a good job when I got irritated with him but he was also very loose with the facts. He did the hatchet job they wanted him to do and I thought he was effective. He managed to hold my attention also which isn't easy.

Night 3 - Clint Eastwood must be off his Meds. That was a horrible. It took me a while to figure out if he needed medical attention or not.

Marco Rubio - I don't get it with this guy. I was distracted because he was sweating like a pig and he just comes off like such a dork. I don't think he was very effective.

Mitt Romney - Again I don't know what it is but I can tell he was trying to relate to the everyday family. When him and his wife do this it just completely turns me off. I know it's phony. At one point I thought he was going to start crying. Anyway I watched about 15 minutes and had to change the channel. He's really just monotone and boring.

Overall, it was okay. They're convincing when they tell you the country is in dire straits and we need to overhaul Medicare and Social Security to fix the problem. Then in the same breath we still have money for tax breaks for wealthy people and increased military spending. It's a conflicting message and I just find something very wrong with those priorities.

@F6Z...no Hitler was a Republican.

@Maxman...well, then you have to admit, we have the numbers! bwaahahahahaha.

But I suspect if you asked the Honey Boo Boo family they'd be Romney supporters.

Obama/Biden 2012

If you're gonna troll "isms" one more time for the little guys...

Fascism is right wing (Nazi's), Communism is left wing (Stalin/Mao). Neither philosophy is practiced in the United States. If you scare easily, then 'ism away in your tin foil hat.

Why do you guys always say that Obama cares more for the poor and middle class than Romney or the GOP? He certainly didnt live under that concept prior to becoming president when he only donated an average of 2% of his income to charity before running for public office. So he personally doesnt care for the poor and middle class but you think he does politically? Well have you seen how the poor and middle class and done economically while he was president? Have you seen how well this group as done economically in Illinois under both his state legislator tenure and as president under his economic policies adopted at the state level? How have minorities, the poor and middle class done over the last 4 years in terms of employment, welfare assistance, food stamps, job creation, closing the education gap with education reform? You can shout to the rooftops as to what you think Romney will do but you have evidence right in front of your face as to what Obama HAS DONE. Is it really possible that Romney could do worse for this segment of our society? I think not.

Why do you guys always say that Obama cares more for the poor and middle class than Romney or the GOP?'

Because Romney and Ryan want to 1) raise taxes on the middle and lower classes in a system that is already somewhat regressive and 2) Ryan thinks that the writings Ayn Rand, queen of "I got mine so screw you" is doctrine.

The tax cuts by no means "busted the budget".

We have a genius here, ladies and gentlemen; one who doesn't think massive reductions in revenue 'busts the budget'. This is why most any economist will tell you the two biggest contributions to the US National Debt over the last decade were: the Bush tax cuts, and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The republicans seem to forget that four years ago John McCain halted his campaign for president and rushed back to Washington to help save the economy from going off the cliff... It was all show and no results.

I heard nothing last night on just how the republicans (Romney) would do a better job than President Obama... No plan, five steps that said nothing...

I'm glad this week is over, because three day's of out and out bold face lies is too much to take... Hopefully, next week all the lies will be pointed out and corrected...

Mitt made bunch of empty promises - fix the deficit, for example. If the GOP is the anti-tax party, how cold they lower the deficit without more taxes - especially reasonable higher taxes on the rich who benefitted more from the system.

There's nothing like opening an email or envelope in the mail and seeing a message and photo from President Obama or Vice President Biden or Michelle Obama or Nancy Pelosi or Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Jim Messina or David Plouffe or David Axelrod.

Spoken like a true kool-aid drinker, your false idols would be proud.

Unintended Consequences

Yes, I know the RNC was supposed to put on a Really Good Shoe (channeling my best Ed Sullivan).

But the Optics were definitely skewed in the favor of Democrats. And with our convention being LAST - they have managed to paint themselves into a corner.

R$mney's message of experience, 'wisdom' and patriarchal 'Father Knows Best' was completely undermined by a bunch of stage trollups auditioning for their next opportunity.

R$mney actually stated that President Obama didn't have the BUSINESS experience required (um, government is NOT a business and your record governing MA was not to whippy) and then he picks Paul "never met a gubment teat I wouldn't suck" Ryan? Weird,...and then Ryan managed to completely undermine his 'credibility' by making outrageous, untrue statements. That speech will follow him for the rest of his life and I hope he feels it was worth it.

I watched from about 8:00p on Tuesday - I thought Niki Haley was a better, more toned down version of Bachman - delivery was good. She certainly has a future in the Republican Party.

I thought the Governor twins were self inflated jerks (Can't think of their names, vagina probe and the other one that is barely different)

I thought Ann Romney was fine. But her suggestion that we 'trust' her was completely ludicrous and her 'I know women all breath a heavier sigh' bit was about as ridiculous as I could stand. Lily Ledbetter- which her party ADMAMENTLY opposes any equal pay standards is the type of thing that help women. Especially SINGLE moms. At any rate, I am not a fan; but she was fine.

And then Chris Christie - WTF? That was a train wreck without any rail. Unnecessarily snarly and vindictive. Love from Ann and Hate from Christie? Yeah - pundits got it right, they stepped all over each other's messages.

So Wednesday night I had a Parent Night at school and went for wine after. My husband paused the convention on the DVR and I saw the entirety of the Ryan speech. Again, another What the Hell night. Although, I will give him points for charisma and delivery.

Last night, I thankfully missed the Calista/Newt happy hour shot fest; but seriously? Calista needed a stage moment? Talk about your basic 3rd wife syndrome. She can't leave his side for a moment, eh? I digress.

Saw the Clint Eastwood thing and will make no comment. I have always liked Clint Eastwood and will maintain my respect for the man. (but I'll admit to being confused by the approach).

Marco Rubio was fine, chummed the red meat, used all the stale 'high' points of attack. Kind of undermined his own audition by implying people only voted for Obama's 'story' - then went on to gloss his own 'story'. He was CLEARLY looking ahead in the audition lineup and it was a little creepy. Seemed like I only heard R$mney mentioned by surrogates a handful of times throughout the three nights. That seemed more than odd.

And of course I saw R$mney. And, well - I am sorry; but I just don't get him. I will agree with many others that this was the best speech of his life. But for me, it just wasn't enough. And zero, I mean ZERO substance.

The absolute best part of the evening was the video. I thought that did WAY more to humanize him than anything else that happened this week. It was really good.

With that said, R$mney has hired 7 of 12 of President Bush's (43) main men. And if R$mney is talking about RESTORING and RETURNING - I am just going to have to say NO.

So the Circus is over and now Tampa must clean up the elephant poop and clear out the jail cells. Good times.

And we Dems? We get to move on to Charlotte and show the country what it looks like when adults are in charge.

I'll be moving FORWARD in this election. As the President said, "This seat is taken!"

I can hardly wait!

Dave Weigel, Slate.com:
"incredible string of false or misleading statements"

Jonathan Cohn, the New Republic:
The Most Dishonest Convention Speech ... Ever?

TPM:
Top 5 Fibs In Paul Ryan’s Convention Speech

Jonathan Cohn, the New Republic:
The Most Dishonest Convention Speech ... Ever?

Michael Tomasky, the Daily Beast:
"Paul Ryan pushed American politics into new territory with his convention speech, effectively daring Democrats and the media to call him out on his string of blatant falsehoods"

AP:
FACT CHECK: Convention speakers stray from reality

Dan Amira, NY Magazine:
Paul Ryan Bets on the Ignorance of America

Fox News contributor, Sally Kohn:
“Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech.”

And this is just the tip of the iceberg of the lies coming from that convention. When even the MSM starts calling you out you know you blew it.

Hahahahha liberals in denial today. Republicans just finished mopping up the floor with you morons. Tell yourselves all you want that Clint screwed up, but I thought it was hilarious. Ryan, Rubio, Christie, Ann Romney, Mitt Romney all gave excellent speeches and we, the Republican party, are fired up and extremely exited about our nominees.

Save America Vote for the Americans Romney/Ryan 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clint Eastwood is bizarre, having changed from the Good, to the Ugly, and to now the totally bad -

you have to question his mental state.

Xabre, provide some support for a regressive tax system? Go to any of the IRSgov sites and provide some evidence that the poor and middle class already pay a high effective INCOME tax rate. Since you are a liberal who doesnt believe in having personal social security accounts, payroll taxes are just our retirement contribution that you will get back in the future right? So provide me with your regressive tax federal tax regime. You know you cant do it. Even at Romney's low effective rate it is still twice as high as average middle class and of course the poor via welfare in the Earned Income tax rate actually have a negative effective tax rate. So provide me with your proof.

Mike,

The issue is how to you address the problem. I'm talking Medicare specifically it's easy to take a red pen to it but the more difficult issue is why does it cost so much? I've been hospital finance for a while and I can tell you the cost is going up because we have too many hospitals in the same city competing and not coordinating care of the population. One opens up a $15 million dollar cancer center with state of the art technology to compete with the cancer center down the road. One hospital buys a Da Vinci surgical robot to compete with the other hospital down the road with a Da Vinci robot. One hospital buys an Accudose pharmacy robot to dispense drugs with zero human error to compete with the other hospital down the road. This technology costs money that is passed onto the consumer. The lack of attention to partnering and working together to care for a community has been overtaken by a fierce competition to stay alive and competitive. There are ways to incentivize consolidation and many states are starting to do this with APR-DRG and ICD-10 payment systems there is also language in the Obamacare bill (believe it or not) that incentivizes hospital consolidation. I don't know where you live but you may already be starting to see this in your local community. Hospitals buying up physician practices and ambulatory care centers to begin to right size and coordinate better care for the community at a lower cost. I believe if we can properly incentivize hospitals, physicians, ambulatory care centers, imaging centers, rehab centers, nursing homes etc to get them to work together and not waste money it will solve the Medicare issue without having to take a red pen to benefits for seniors.

Xabre, provide some support for a regressive tax system? Go to any of the IRSgov sites and provide some evidence that the poor and middle class already pay a high effective INCOME tax rate.

Look at Mitt Romney's tax return for said evidence. I say tax return, as he has only released one.

Even at Romney's low effective rate it is still twice as high as average middle class and of course the poor

No, it's not. Taking out state income and payroll taxes I still pay 15-16% to the feds. I'm about right in the middle of the middle class. Would you like to try again?

Holy crap, I did some digging on Wikipedia, maybe I'm higher than I thought (but still far lower than Mitt):

Household income distribution

Bottom 10% Bottom 20% Bottom 25% Middle 33% Middle 20% Top 25% Top 20% Top 5% Top 1.5% Top 1%

$0 to $10,500
$0 to $18,500
$0 to $22,500
$30,000 to $62,500
$35,000 to $55,000
$77,500 and up
$92,000 and up
$167,000 and up
$250,000 and up
$350,000 and up

Source: US Census Bureau, 2006; income statistics for the year 2005

Alan, NJ

@Bayllie

So no comment on the votes for the unfunded wars? OK, I'll take that.

No problem. Thanks for bringing that up also:

The Congress (both Ds and Rs) voted for the war when presented with "facts" by the Bush Administration that the Bush Administration had proof:

a. they Saddam might give chemical, biological or even nuclear weapons to terrorists

b. Iraq had trained al Qaeda terrorists in the use of poison gas

The Bush intelligence contained in a top-secret document was made available to all members of Congress in October 2002, days before the House and Senate voted to authorize Bush to use force in Iraq. This so-called National Intelligence Estimate was supposed to be the combined US intelligence community's "most authoritative written judgment concerning a specific national security issue,"

The NIE as declassified and released by the CIA says pretty much what Bush and his aides were saying publicly about Iraq's weapons - nearly all of which turned out to be wrong:

CIA Release of NIE, October 2002: We judge that Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs in defiance of UN resolutions and restrictions. Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons as well as missiles with ranges in excess of UN restrictions. If left unchecked it probably will have a nuclear weapon within this decade.

Note that it says: Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons as well as missiles with ranges in excess of UN restrictions. Keywor is HAS - not may have, but HAS.

Now given the evidence Bush presented to Congress, I would not expect ANYONE not to vote YEA.

Fast forward to 2008:

Senate Intelligence Committee Unveils Final Phase II Reports on Prewar Iraq Intelligence

“It is my belief that the Bush Administration
was fixated on Iraq, and used the 9/11 attacks by al Qa’ida as justification for
overthrowing Saddam Hussein. To accomplish this, top Administration officials
made repeated statements that falsely linked Iraq and al Qa’ida as a single
threat and insinuated that Iraq played a role in 9/11. Sadly, the Bush
Administration led the nation into war under false pretenses.
“There is no question we all relied on flawed
intelligence. But, there is a fundamental difference between relying on
incorrect intelligence and deliberately painting a picture to the American
people that you know is not fully accurate.

This is just part of it. The rest you can read here:
http://www.factcheck.org/iraq_what_did_congress_know_and_when.html

http://www.factcheck.org/iraq_what_did_congress_know_and_when.html
Alan, thanks for playing!

Redhead,

Honey Boo Boo ratings were higher because this was the Republican convention. The Democrats were all watching Honey Boo Boo.

NC-492358

Why would anyone want to watch the Republican Convention? Granted, I do enjoy watching a good dog and pony show, but after you hear nothing but lies and deciet based on years of failure... its not entertaining anymore.

The Democrats were all watching Honey Boo Boo.

Yeah!

Because Democrats historically watch ignorant red-neck train wrecks...

Much like the GNOP convention this week...

Nice try!

So Xabre, you punted and ignored the evidence. I could care less what your personal effective tax rate, its what the overall effective tax rate is. So go to IRS.gov web site and look at effective tax rates and come back again and tell me how it is regressive? The average middle class effective federal income tax rate is about 7%. As for the poor, are you now admitting your wrong that the poor pay a higher effective tax rate since they actually receive tax money back in the form of the Earned Income tax credit? I could care less what the average income distribution is because that isnt relevant to your comments and erroneous statements. If you want to discuss the causes of income inequality we can do that but lets stick with your erroneous tax claims first.

What a grand display of "death by politics". What a shi^^y way to treat your standard bearers. GOP hierarchy have sent Romney and Ryan out into the highways and byways of the Country toting more baggage than a 5 mile long Bedouin Camel caravan. Additionally, set fire to their collective fodder barn and blew up their historical and unique eating and emptying toilets as they left. This pair couldn't win an election against Dunstan Cass and Simon Legree on the best and worst days of either respectively. The convention managers seemed to know it as well. Rather than extolling the virtues of Romney, they kept showcasing others, who talked mostly about themselves, as if they wished to get them some notice for some future event. Old age dotage is hell, as Eastwood amply demonstrated during His, um,ah, whatever It was He was attempting. Republicans have dished up many advantages to the democrats over the past 4 days. Surely the democrats will take advantage of 'em. Enough of this republican crud!

Obama/Biden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tough week for you Jen (Fiesty) wasnt it? Is it tough to watch a convention in which the candidates you dislike exhibited more class than you and your campaign posse? Did you pay attention and learn how much more credible people are when they provide comparisons and distinctions between the two candidates. What you consider negative is pointing out what the other side did wrong or isnt doing right. But did you notice that whether you agree or disagree or whether you think they are lying, they didnt personally attack? No one said anything crass or nasty about Michelle Obama like you and your team does to Ann Romney. Nobody talked about Obama's 100 rounds of golf or anything similar to the personal hatred spewed by Beverly, David and others against the GOP and anyone who believes in fiscal discipline, self reliance and personal accountability? You really could learn a thing or two in terms of how to conduct yourself from everyone like Artur, Nicky, Chris, Mia, Condi etc with dignity and class.

You Obama supporters must Love Hitler.

Why do you say that...Hitler was a Republican(Ultra Right)

So Xabre, you punted and ignored the evidence. I could care less what your personal effective tax rate, its what the overall effective tax rate is.

Translation: Kirk wants me to think what it's progressive since if everyone took the same type of income it would be.

Home Run!

Liberals need be worried! ...very worried, indeed!

Romney/Ryan 2012! Vote against Obama like your life depends on it!

haggisbingo...

If you want it to look like Obama...better make the ears bigger. I'd say ego also but I suppose you can't illustrate something that incredibly large.

Looks a lot like MLK, though.

Romney/Ryan 2012!

Mitt Romney doesn't understand what it takes to be a president. It takes more than experience in downsizing companies. You may be able to downsize a company and return it to profitability, but you cast off that company's employees in the process. When you're president, you still have to make sure your people are taken care of. You don't get to cast them off and forget them. I don't believe Mitt Romney understands that. I'm sticking with the Democrats until the Republicans offer a candidate I can take seriously.

JokerNBC...

LOL...and the community-organizer-n-chief had more...experience, that is? LOL!

He was barely a Senator...and correct me if I'm wrong, but never held a private sector job. How, may I ask, does that qualify Obama? BTW, he's had almost 4 years. I'll paraphrase this one from Romney..."sad when you felt better about Obama the day you voted for him than you do right now"...

@White Collar

Your username says it all, my friend. I'm sure you would love to see that bobble-head, industry-pocketed puppet get elected. You need to STFU and apologize to all BLUE COLLAR workers everywhere. WE are the backbone of this country. WE are the job creators when we spend our hard-earned cash, not you fat cats who are sitting on the largest stockpile of cash in history.

I am disgusted by the outright lies people spew in these comments. And I feel sorry for the people who actually believe them! So because the GOP doesn't want to force a religious organization to bow down to others and go against their beliefs, they hate women? And because the GOP doesn't condone murder, they hate women? I am not going to get into all the specifics and all the angles, but if a woman chooses to engage in an activity that results in pregnancy, she should not get the option of murder to relieve her of responsibility. My particular opinion is that they can have the abortion, but they will need to complete a prison sentence to account for their crime. Abortion should not be used as birth control! I also think more people need to address the issue of the fathers. These women didn't get pregnant on their own!

It would appear that even Mitt Romney himself can't answer the one question that rises above all others in a Presidential election;

"Here's one good reason to vote for me."

Unless, of course, you buy the math that we can increase military spending, cut taxes, and balance the budget at the same time. Unless, of course, you believe the disproven notion that taking money out of the economy increases economic activity.

Those things coupled with the famous Human Weathervane flip-flops encapsulate the essence of Mitt Romney. The campaign's insistence that they have every right to lie in speeches and campaign commercials tells you what you need to know. The candidate may not be a diagnosed Sociopath, but his lack of empathy, view of truth as being whatever he needs it to be, and willingness to say or do anything to achieve his goal show an ugly side of Mitt Romney. His selfish desire to impose a FYIGM American aristocracy on this great country shows a dismal potential future for the 99%. His intent to do all this at the expense of average Americans would be a disaster for the great middle class economic engine that made us what we are.

Yawn.....the paid Obamatron is at it again. Nothing to add about Obama....per usual.

GrayLady25

I am not going to get into all the specifics and all the angles

Mitt, is that you?

ROMNEY PROMISED REPUBLICANS DURING REPUB DEBATES HE WOULD SHOW HIS TAXES.

Well Mittster.......prove you are not a liar and tax cheat. Well ....Mitt ...prove you are not a offshoring tax dodger......Show us your taxes!

Vote President Obama/Biden and Team America 2012...........Dump Romney the tax dodging liar!

Monday is Labor day. As an employer I wish to extend my heartfelt thanks and honest deference to those great and noble people who are the true foundation of my existence, this nations, and the world as well. Words cannot describe your efforts, perseverance, and, all too often pain. You are the strong roots that provide nourishment vital to life of the fruit bearing trees as well as the replenisher's of the new seedlings that give bright sustenance to the otherwise gloom of our future. With great humility I salute you, and marvel at your strength. It is my fervent hope you will grow in numbers and strength and be enabled to overcome those who seek to exploit and abuse the resolve of your willingness to lessen the burdens of dishonest work through the efforts of co-operative resistance. Again, Laborers! The True Nobles of all mankind, I salute You!

starsailing...

HAHAHAHAHAHA...let me get my breath...

Obama...SHOW US YOUR SCHOOL TRANSCRIPTS AND A LITTLE ABOUT HOW YOUR EDUCATION WAS PAID FOR!

Why, it's a miracle!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXEoQJ7ZMZs

Last night captured the Republican quandary in living color. I thought Mr. Romney did an admirable job with his speech, even though he wandered into questionable territory a couple of times (notably 700B from Medicaire to "pay" for the Health Care program), but overall, he came across as a decent and moral man who loves his country who might even make a decent president. The quandary comes because he also has an albatross around his neck which would prevent him from carrying out many things he says he stands for. The albatross is in the form of the Republican Party which he answers to, and specifically, the various factions that make up the right wing of the party. Their purpose in life is very clear; dig in and don't move from your most radical positions. We have the tea party, Ron Paul followers, and Grover Norquist to hold up as ample proof, and in fact, they are proud and happy to agree with that assessment. It helped get them elected by their "grass roots" base who couldn't care less what the rest of the world thinks of them.

Anyone who thinks anything will change REGARDLESS of who is elected in November will be sadly disappointed, because these people live off of negativity and confrontation, and they have made it clear that applies to the "establishment" of the party itself. Their message to Republican candidates at all levels is, "toe OUR line or we will turn on you and you're gone"! They sent the message again last night in the middle of Mr. Romney's speech when he said the Republican party will help the poor. The applause stopped as on cue, and Mr. Romney looked kind of startled for just a second. But the crowd made it clear he was off the Republican message. Well, Mr. Romney, SAY HELLO TO YOUR BASE! So your problem isn't so much what you and other more moderate Republicans say you believe - it's the kind of people you say you stand with. Mean-spirited, self-absorbed, bitter, and in a perpetual state of anger. How can you expect to deal on a day-to-day basis with these kinds of people, Mr. Romney? Do you really believe these people will allow you to be in charge? Norquist, the Paul boys, the Koch brothers, the wild-eyed tea partiers, the NRA - this is your base, and you would have to cow-tow to them day after day!

That is, unless you really DO believe in their ideologies, in which case, you're really NOT fit to try to lead this country. But in any event, there's only one way to see this gridlock scenario is not allowed to play out, and that is for the Democrats to wake the hell up, take back the House and increase their hold on the Senate. THE ONLY WAY!!

Funny how many on the left ridiculed the Republicans for not severely scaling down their convention in the wake of Isaac, yet when it's all said and done, it's Romney who makes it to New Orleans first before Obama manages to take even the slightest detour from the campaign trail to survey the damage.

LMFAO

Seriously?

The *damage* to the city of New Orleans is very minimal. Power outages & shingles off the roofs, mostly.

The French Quarter, the original old city, never floods anyway because it's above sea level; it's the expanded part that has the potential for flooding. Which didn't happen this time. In case you weren't paying attn, the new levees & pumps held up.

It was the levees in Plaquemines Parish (which have not yet gotten the same fix the New Orleans one got) that were inadequate. They didn't break, mind; they just weren't high enough to wtihstand a 12-ft sea surge.

Plaquemines is south of the city on the Gulf of Mexico (New Orleans is on the Mississippi River) & the first place in Louisiana that always gets whomped by a hurricane making landfall.

That's the disaster area, not New Orleans. There's also a lot more damage in Mississippi than there is in New Orleans.

Now if Romney was stopping off in Mississippi &/or Plaquemines on his way to New Orleans, then maybe you could pat him on the back.

But he's not doing that, is he?

He couldn't care less about any hurricane damage. Tampa & New Orleans were already inked into his campaign schedule & he's not going to deviate from that is all that's going on.

The last thing any mayor wants is some dumbass politician getting in the way of a natural disaster. That's why Obama waited to go to Joplin, where he actually walked the streets & talked to the residents, once the state of emergency had been lifted.

If Landrieu is letting Romney pop in, it's b/c there's nothing much to mop up.

And you watch, Romney won't leave his hotel once he gets there. He won't walk the mean streets of New Orleans. He might get contaminated by an actual poor person.

He's certainly not going to be allowed into Plaquemines w/ the state that it's currently in. Maybe he could do a fly-over like Bush did & you can cheer for that.

Romney going to New Orleans to make some droning speech is nothing to crow about. New Orleans isn't the focal pt of this particular hurricane. If it was, Romney would find a reason to change his plans rather than wade into a dangerous area.

But I bet you'll see Obama in the hardest-hit areas very soon. New Orleans isn't one of them.

I'm talking Medicare specifically it's easy to take a red pen to it but the more difficult issue is why does it cost so much?

B/c the baby boomers are retiring. Period. More demand for services no matter what the equipment. That's why more equipment is needed.

Yeah!

Because Democrats historically watch ignorant red-neck train wrecks...

I was going to say that LOL It's the ones who don't understand the big words in all the boring speeches who flipped channels.

"Here's one good reason to vote for me."

*crickets*

Mitt Romney may have shown America that he can touch the heart strings of some Americans. But what he also showed us once again last night is that he seems incapable of surrounding himself with people of competence. If this is how his campaign has been run, I simply cannot forsee competence or efficiency of any kind in a Romney administration. He chooses his people poorly.

You are right ... Mitt has not selected his cabinet, YET !

@Bayllie

WTF has your post to do with both Ryan and Obama both voting to fund the war? It would only make sense if Ryan was privy to some secret Administration documents. The original tweet from the Axe man was that Ryan voted for 2 unfunded wars. My point was so did Obama.

Nice, but long, attempt at distraction.

BTW I see you never got back to me on the $3T of budget busting Obama tax cuts.

The real question isn't whether Romney is Obama. Clearly, he isn't. He lacks Obama's integrity, charisma and intelligence. The real question is whether Romney is Bush III and whether we can afford another Bush. It has become fairly obvious to me that Romney IS, in fact, Bush III - and, heck no, we can't afford another Bush!

Obama/Biden 2012

Geez you folks are behind the times.

All anybody is talking about is CLINT EASTWOOD. Get with the program Dudes and Dudettes. Clint got even with the GOP for the smack they laid on him for his Superbowl car commercial. Whoooeeee. I'll bet they don't mess with Clint Eastwood again anytime soon.

He made my day! Talk amongst yourselves....the topic is "Was that Clint's homage to Ralph Ellison's THE INVISIBLE MAN or was he auditioning for the Broadway revival of "HARVEY"?

Obama/Biden 2012

But it wasn't Romney's campaign video that gripped me, it was the testimony of real people who actually know the man. Like the story the elderly couple told of how Romney befriended their dying son and helped him write a will. Or the story the mother of a brain damaged child told of the compassion and support the Romney's provided her family through many trying days over a period of years. Those were powerful and emotional stories that left few dry eyes in the audience, and stories that gave every American an insight into the kind of man Romney really is – in sharp contrast to the kind of man the left wants us to see.

Fairfax Bill,

What it reminded me of was my mother, a divorced mother that worked and struggled to raise 4 children, alone, without taking a dime from the government, but, when she was bedridden, deteriorating and wasting away from Alzheimer's, needed a Medicaid bed, which was difficult enough for us to find for her.

After President Romney makes his spending cuts, people like her, who've worked and sacrificed all their lives, won't be able to find that benefit they paid for during their working years. Romney will toss them away like a unsuccessful takeover, chalking it up to collateral damage, with emotion-free crisis management. After all, in order to reward success, you've got to sacrifice some to cut your losses in a zero-sum world.

Ann Romney looked tired last night, undoubtedly from the long hours of the campaign and convention. Romney and his wife should retire back to home for good. They've had long, successful lives, but now they've been working too hard.

So again Xabre, you cant support your erroneous conclusions. The only tax the president has the ability to influence is the federal income tax which applies against every type of income granted at various rates. So the wealthy pay virtually all the federal income tax in this country and their effective rate as an average is quadruple the middle class so I would call that progressive. Should it be higher? Maybe but no different than wondering if a 7% effective tax rate for the middle class is too low. You can divert and deflect but it doesnt change the fact that you are wrong. So own up big boy.

LOL its so funny to watch you libs run scared! It was a GREAT week for Romney/Ryan you can always tell when you idiots run right quick to this liberal blog to feed off of each other and try to make each other feel better about losing LOL... I know you must feel sad to not be able to stop your obummer from losing but the fact is this race is over, he has lost already. It is only a matter of 60 + days until he is unemployed like the other 34 million he destroyed. You can all feed off of each other all you want to on this site but the real Americans out here are going to throw that bum obummer out of the White house and take this country back for true Americans and ofr our future. Your socialist future is over... Now attack or cry all you want I wont read any of them Im gone just a little truth into the conversation... bye now enjoy your last two months in office obummer President Romney will be there soon

cantakenomore

Obama...SHOW US YOUR SCHOOL TRANSCRIPTS

apples for apples first. Romney doesn't get wild cards or extra special points or skipping steps. Voters have been asking Romney for his tax returns since 1994. Since the time Romney DEMANDED tax returns from Ted Kennedy.

AND A LITTLE ABOUT HOW YOUR EDUCATION WAS PAID FOR!

ahhh, student loans which we have known for years. Are you the guy from the Geico commercial who lives under a rock?

bayllie...

It's okay there, libbie...your boy will have his arse handed to him this November!

It's going to be a conservative sweep...much like 2010.

Why can't Barry run on His record?? Because He is a dismal FAILURE.

Now, go find yourself a rock...after this election, you and all the other libbies on this vine will need it!

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012! Vote against him like your life depends on it!

Wha Wha Wha, all I ever hear from you lefty-libs is a bunch of pissing and moaning. You're so hypocritical and FULL of lies lies lies. You know how you can tell when a liberal is lying?...whenever his lips are moving!! HaHAAAA, kills me every time :) What’s all this bull I'm hearing from you crybabies about Clint Eastwood? His speech was f'ing HILARIOUS, you just can't deny that. The ONLY reason you're all crying about it is because it was funny, you know it was funny, it was true, and you know it was true, AND because it was FUNNNNNY! @Feisty Redslut (aka worthless, jobless, Obama-paid, mudslinging, blogger) where in Clint's "speech" did you pick up any amount of anger AT ALL?? Idiot. Once again just another crazy lefty-lib making @!$%# up and the rest of you just believe it because someone said it...much ado about nothing. You're ALL insane, brainless nutjobs; get a life, get a job, take responsibility for yourself, and do something productive. Is it really a wonder why you all want four more years of Oblabla? Not to me it's not. And you’ll more than likely get it because there is an ever growing number of helpless retards in this world, especially America, and you know what, I can’t wait till you get what you want because you will all be the first to get what's coming to you when he is re-elected, the first to get what you deserve and when you come running and crying back to the other side the door will slammed in your face and you will be left out in the cold, alone and helpless. And when you’re all gone and withered away, the rest of us will walk over your ashes and take back our land; it’ll be the most glorious day in American history, world history, the next National Holiday. Adios Amigos!

cantakenomore

bayllie...

It's okay there, libbie...your boy will have his arse handed to him this November!

In the immortal words of "Dirty Harry" Callahan, "A man's got to know his limitations." Your guy certainly doesn't seem to know his own, nor those of the incompetent people with whom he surrounds himself. Which is why I predict we are going to witness an Obama/Biden landslide victory November 6th.

That is, as long as the election doesn't hinge on a controversial vote in Florida, Ohio or Pennsylvania where voter suppression is being actively implemented by the Republicans. In that case, it will be the beginning of an all-out new American civil war. Americans will not stand for a stolen election, perceived or otherwise.

Rick's Real... "Americans will not stand for a stolen election, perceived or otherwise." Is that a reference to the last administration? LOL! Daddie's "Supreme" court and brother "the Guv" doing the counting? Re: Voter suppression: Voter fraud and voter ID is a solution looking for a problem. I can't wait for the debates. Should be a laugh-fest/massacre.

Rick's Real...

I cannot wait! Hell, I wish the election were tomorrow...

It will be another landslide...Just like Reagan over Mr. Peanuthead...

Feisty "NOT" Redhead is Jen Psaki, Obama's campaign spokesman.

She's a Communist just like Obama and Soros.

Save America!!! Defeat Obama!!!

Oh yeah... comparing Ronald Reagan, who had more than half a century connecting with and endearing himself to the American people, to Mitt Romney, a man with two left feet and car elevator sticking out of his ass. Ten thousand bucks says he and Ryan lose in a landslide, despite the best efforts of the Tea Party to restrict voting - which is in and of itself blatant and verifiable voter fraud, and the courts will uphold that. On November 7th, check back to this post, #1.124 because I'm going to rub your noses in it.

Rick's Real...

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

See ya in November...libbie!

Well if you can't take no more now, I can't see how you will handle the re-election of Barack Hussein Obama, and I expect the last thing you would do would be to show up at this post to see what I have to say about it. So we'll see YOU -- I am soooo certain.

Feisty "NOT" Redhead is Jen Psaki, Obama's campaign spokesman.

WOW you Conservatives see dark forces and conspiracies EVERYWHERE, don't you? I happen to know otherwise, so please amuse me with your proof of this accusation.

The GOP platform 2012:

@!$%# Obama. @!$%# the planet. @!$%# science. @!$%# government. @!$%# women (without benefit of moral, ethical or contraceptive protection). @!$%# the constitution. @!$%# the elderly. @!$%# education. @!$%# healthcare. @!$%# blacks. @!$%# gays. @!$%# hispanics. @!$%# the liberal media, @!$%# RINO's, @!$%# moderation, @!$%# compromise, @!$%# the poor. @!$%# Afghanistan and the troops, @!$%# free and open elections, @!$%# yourself and an empty chair, and more tax cuts for the wealthy.

God bless the Tea Party Republicans. The world has never known such selfless Christian patriots.

Tea Party ROCKS!!!!

NOBAMA 2012!

ROMNEY/RYAN!!! Vote against the big-eared-bandit like your like depends on it!

Excellent Jody as always!

What stuck out for me is how not ONE person at the convention mentioned Hurricane Issac or those affected by it!

While the good old boy Republican "gubners"... are already lining up with their hands out!

Thanks for the memories ... Jody!

Feisty

What stuck out for me is how not ONE person at the convention mentioned Hurricane Issac or those affected by it!

They left that up to NoJo, the queer queen of compASSion.

We will not let the truth get in the way.

And that's in part because their supporters are uninformed and ill-informed and won't know the difference, and two, because the GOP doesn't give a damn about the truth. They haven't given a damn for 30 years.

We will not let the truth get in the way. This is the only true statement they've uttered in years.

Jody,

Great recap of the week as usual!

Love the Bonhoeffer quote.

The GOP circus train has packed up and moving out of Tampa.

They now will take their sloganeering , the"old days of the 1950's" , on the road to a state near you.

Thanks for the memories Jodi.....reminding us the GNOP IS the party of thousands of lies...they wouldn't know the truth if it hit them on the side of their heads......

GNOP can't face facts..THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

C'mon Mythe show us the 1040's..What ARE YOU hiding@?

WTF is wrong with these writers?

Nothing, they pretty accurately wrote what I saw last night. While Romney appeared less like a manikin, he still won't go into details on any of his policy proposals. Probably because as they are right now, they'll increase the deficit; so we better not talk about that.

Jody, Super job. The quote by Dietrich Boenhoffer was perfect and the analogy to the percentage of truth very clever.

You go girl.....you are the best.

('m sure IR had the backhoe ready for the mess left by Snookie)

Ya know Brian (post #2.8)....if you don't like Obama spending money, ask yourself why was the economy so crappy in 2007 and 2008? I know we're not suppose to mention Jr, but I will....our economic collapse didn't start on Jan 20, 2009. It was well under way by that point. Think for a moment....don't just regurgitate the same old 'stop blaming bush' line. I'm just saying Obama wouldn't be able to spend so much....if we weren't in such a deep hole, that started in 2007.

And to be honest....I like but don't love everything Obama has tried. On the other hand....in seven years of running for President, Romney hasn't given a single clue as to what he'd do...really. Oh yea, he's all over the 'I'd do better' generalities, and the 'Obama is bad' crap. But he hasn't given us a clue of a direction, path or plan...with any substance or detail. NONE.

Jody - engaging work, thank you.

"Ryan cuts and pastes his Bible." (our Jody)

"We will not let the truth get in the way." (Romney campaign)

A couple of grand bumper stickers, right there.

Can someone tell me what you call that thingy Willard was reading off of last night?

It must have been that same contraption his wife and some 'gravitationally enhanced' fellow were staring at the night before.

I have to disagree that it was a mistake on Obama's part to allow the Gop to seize on the YOU DIDNT BUILD THAT remark because the more they use it, the stupider they look. And they used it alot.

Now we know what the Romney campaign is.......a journey to the past.

Taking us back to the 50's, but without the "Happy Days" excitement.

Taking us back to the cold war.

But why is Mitt Romney taking us back?.......he has no vision for the future. All he has is the past.

Trickle Down economic policies of the Bush administration from the past.

School and Medicare voucher programs from the past.

Romney's fictional tax plan, dubbed by fact checkers, as "impossible" doesn't dazzle. It frightens.

Old images of Reagan, old abortion policies, promising prosperity to the rich on the backs of the working poor......all of these are OLD.

The only one that got it right was Eastwood, as crazy as that sounds, "what Mr. President? I can't tell Romney that. He can't do that to himself"........pretty much summed up the evening.

I watched very little of the Repub convention coverage because I've got too low a tolerance lying and hate spewing to watch ti for hours on end. So instead, I got most of my information from the most trusted names in faux news (after Faux News), the Daily Show and the Steven Colbert Show).

The Colbert show was especially exciting, which had a Star Wars theme being "America Strikes Back", with rebel leader Mitt Romney fighting the Dark Lord Barack Obama ("dark" not in the racist sense, just evil).

The most shocking revelation in the Colbert show was that Paul Ryan is such a devoted disciple of Ayn Rand that he likes to dress up in Ayn Rand drag! Colbert had a photo of Ryan in drag to prove it! Of course, the photo MIGHT have been photoshopped, but we're living in a post-factual world, now, so that really would be beside the point.

Definitely a dog and pony show last night. I'd have to give credit to the RNC, and Romney, for finally giving us a more personal look into the candidate. Eastwood's rant was delivered, well, doggy-style. Rubio was flat at best, definitely not his best speech. Then although it probably was Romney's best speech, once again, Mitt succumbed to his base with another false reference to money taken out of Medicare, and that line about the world looking for an 'American' to lead, which reinforced my false-Christian view of him.

Worse yet, the man flat out scared me with his war-mongering foreign policy last 'point'. Add to that the fact that he gave zip, zero, nada insight into any details or specifics of his plans for the economy with his first points and we have the making of an even more threatening Bush II scenario for the country. Romney constantly waxed nostalgic about the not so long ago good ole days when, supposedly to Mitt and the RNC, America was a better place. You know, without health-care, women's rights, and with wars on multiple fronts. Uh Mitt, oh by the way - the 1% paid more in taxes back then.

This RNC platform revealed that yes, people will suffer and feel the pain to get our country back on track. But it won't be the 1% bearing the burden, it will be you and me, and even more so with this guy Romney.

Alan NJ - the Tu Quoque argument is very stale, and is a fallacy of logic in your arguments.

Fact: The plant in question was scheduled for shutdown before the president took office. Due to that, and the equivocation of a statement saying that with the right help, factories would stay open for another 100 years to a promise that Obama would save the plant, Mr. Ryan is lying. You can spin, deflect, b!tch and moan about it, but you have no ground to stand on when over 70% of everything that comes out of Mr. Ryan's mouth is a lie. Good catholic values there...\

Hey, i get it. When you have nothing to run on, you have to make stuff up. The public doesn't have to beleive the garbage thrown at the wall though...

@Jody - well said. you certainly have a way with words and i couldn't agree with you more.

Xabre - Let me tell you something. When you view something through off colored glasses, it will always appear weird to you.

And we're off.

Since you exhibit liberal traits, you can't connect with what was being said, being done and being shown.

Liberal traits? That must be GOP codeword for "making judgments based on fact".

I can imagine that for the next 4 days, during the democrat convention, you will be getting chills, thrills and possibly even standing up and applauding in your living room.

Actually no; I probably won't watch must of it. Swing and a miss, as they say.

You connect with what the liberals will be saying.

Oh! Back to talking about facts, eh?

I, on the other hand will be bringing in a metal bucket to yak in. I can't connect with the liberal/progressive agenda. I find most of it offensive and it literally makes me ill. I know the progressive agenda is to bring this country to it's knees and it sickens me to see so many of our people follow along blinded and uninformed. The democrat party is NOT like it used to be. It's allowed the progressive movement to infiltrate and dominate all talking points, actions and we are reaping the results of that invasion.

Yeah, you do seem to have problems connecting with those that use facts. Probably why you'd vote for a candidate proposing the same policies that created the current recession.

Jody:

Thank you so much for your work. It is good to be reminded of what has happened. Honestly, I don't know how you can put this together and not feel a great sadness now and again. You recount a non-stop cacophony of lies and deception coming from the right. You shine a spotlight on Republicans - a party utterly bereft of a moral foundation; a party that worships money.

Again, thanks. I surely couldn't do it.

Thanks, Jody, for another excellent recap. The cutting room floor must be really full this week!

I wonder when someone from the GOP will stand up and say: stop disrespecting the President of the United States. Never, I guess.

No Joe---still afraid to put her weekly recap on its own.

First Read:

Romney’s pitch to women: Another thing struck us about Romney’s speech: He made a direct pitch to women voters. He said of his mother, “I wish she could have been here at the convention and heard leaders like Gov. Mary Fallin, Gov. Nikki Haley, Gov. Susana Martinez, Sen. Kelly Ayotte and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

Yeah, Mitt is so pro-woman that even his mother was one. But if his mom really were still around, Romney would probably tell her to shuddup about her pro-abortion rights position.

Jody - For candidates and speakers who claim to be deeply religious, declare their devotion to God, one wonders how it is they discard His teachings: lying is a sin, thou shalt not bear false witness.

Thanks for updating me on what happened. Looks like I didn't miss much. I learned during the debates, spectacles like this were not worth watching. The Eastwood thing would have been interesting, can't wait to see what SNL does with that. Their mockery of the superbowl commercial and his chest high pants were hillarious.

Regarding your point I highlighted, I wonder the same thing Jody. For all their courting of that demographic you would think that the GOP would not distort the truth. It is hypocritical for those so "deeply religious" to turn a deaf ear to the GOP leaders when lies and hate is all they regurgitate. They have taken away Christ's teachings or any religion's teaching of helping and caring for people and replaced it with caring only for themselves. They've replaced it with objectivisim or wealth gospel or any other myriad of me first attitudes.

Take away the "deeply religious" label and replace it with "honest, decent or civil people" and I still can't see how the GOP has lost their way. They see themselves as Republicans first and Americans second.

The worst have no sense of decency, no civility... so much hatred for anyone who differs in opinion. The majority of GOP see no wrong in their candidate or party, they fall silent at their faults, they clam up even when they disagree with the policy. They clap on que without questioning. So glad I didn't watch.

What did Mitt acomplish last night? He will do his best to help all Americans - not just his supporters. He will not be hanging around with domestic terrorists, sleezy politicians, OWS anarchists or Radical Reverends. He will strive to make America the greatest nation in the world again instead of being a self deprecating leader apologizing for Americas greatness.

Yeah, except the whole concept as to 'how' eluded him. It tends to elude even those that support him.

Is this guy for real????

In making his case for why America should elect him to serve in the White House, the former Massachusetts governor said, "I wish president Obama had succeed because I want America to succeed."

He later added, "When the world needs someone to do the really big stuff, you need an American."

Obama 2012 - the only sane choice...

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Jody: Excellent run down! Thanks for your work. Poor no jo, still trying to pretend that she has an independent thought. Pretty sad when all she can do is try to copy you. She does it SO badly. Shameful really.

Mittens speech? Horse carriage to the past. Maybe Ann can figure out how to hitch the traces on her "therapy horse" to drag this country backward, when the only people who prospered were white men.

Nothing specific. Just the great "I am" saying that he should be King, because after all, he has been promised that it is HIS turn and Annie will make him sleep out in the doghouse if he doesn't deliver the White House balcony to her.

Those of you who support Romney, and we KNOW who you are, support someone who wants to deliver the country lock stock and barrel to the Koch Brothers and the rest of robber barons.

Romney was a vulture capitalist, his role was to steal money from the companies he took over, leave them with huge amount of debt when he left, giving the money he stole to his buddies.

Eastwood? Who in the RNC thought THAT was a good idea? You want to step forward and let us know? That's the kind of judgment we should run from!

This was done at the start of a speech, I believe by Ann Romney... a couple of days ago. It could have been done by someone else.

Well then Jimmy, post the video because I didn't see OR hear it!

While you're at it, would you explain to us why the RWNJ's are so rabid this week?

Wasn't this supposed to be "your turn" in the spotlight...

It's called EPIC FAIL & the temper tantrums confirm it! lmao

Thanks, friends.

I see Snookie Joe still does not have the courage to stand on her own two feet and post her comment as a stand alone....ah, well, chickens are what they are; they go about pecking the ground in hopes of finding a morsel.

Brian, did you like the GOP spending on the credit card from 2001-2008? Did you like the GOP doubling the national debt with each republican president? Did you like that the GOP NEVER paid for anything in those 8 years or during Reagan's years or Bush 41's? Or is it that you only care when a democrat is President? Never mind, the answer is obvious.

Forget about the troops in Afghanistan and start a war with Iran and Russia........Romney/Ryan 2012

Wow hagissbingo,

Great art piece, thank you.

Romney forwards GOP's calculation on white, rich America.

First Read, still worshiping at the altar of the Goddess of the False Equivalency:

Yet Romney didn’t make the case how he could get past the current division, polarization and gridlock, especially given how these campaigns are currently conducting themselves.

What First Read is too fearful of the right wingers to say is that Romney didn't make the case how he could get past the current division and polarization created by HIS campaign with its false race-baiting welfare ads, and the gridlock caused by Republicans in Congress who swore at the beginning of Obama's term in office to create the gridlock First Read bemoans.

Maybe First Read has fallen behind the rest of the media pack. Even the Associated Press ran an article exposing the many lies Paul Ryan told in his convention speech. And the AP even managed to do it without trying to equate anything the Obama campaign has done.

So nothing ToxicChemist? Lots of valuable details you mentioned there.

Jim....next time get your facts in line or just make something up like you guys usually do, but do it be you call someone a "LIAR." That generally works better if you are capable of proving it.

Laker Steve.... typical Lakers fan....D BAG! But just in case you aren't a Lakers fan...you're still a D BAG!

If you add up all the 'diversity' speakers the RNC trotted out, I believe they out-numbered the 'diversity' in the audience. Nice try though.

What stuck out for me is how not ONE person at the convention mentioned Hurricane Issac or those affected by it!

Ann Romney did address this issue at the start of her speech... Sent thoughts and prayers and such...

Well, everything that Romney/Ryan has done or supported in the past has favored the very rich over the rest of us in the Middle Class or poor.

• You really think this reverse Robin Hood works?????

the only sane choice...

Haggis, you are enamored by a marketing gimmik.

everything that Romney/Ryan has done or supported in the past has favored the very rich over the rest of us in the Middle Class or poor.

Tell that to all of the people working at Staples, Domino's, Burlington Coat Factory, Burger King, Dunkin doughnuts, Toys R Us , the Sports Authority...I didn't know all those people working behind the counter were "Rich."

Yeah, except the whole concept as to 'how' eluded him. It tends to elude even those that support him

Xabre, I'll take someone who actually succeeded in creating business and actually has a plan, than your "Dear leader." what is his plan?

Xabre, I'll take someone who actually succeeded in creating business and actually has a plan

Really? What is his plan? Spare no detail.

Alan NJ:

So, although the plant was ACTUALLY closed on April 2009, the nice use of the word effectively (journalistic license?), allows Politifact to proclaim the statement false.

Like Alan, I'll ignore the fact that the plant was only employing 57 production jobs at that point afer laying off 1,200 workers while Bush was president. So, the plant was ACTUALLY shut down when Obama had only been in office for about THREE MONTHS. So, of COURSE his fault that he didn't wave the magic wand all presidents get when they take office and make the plant reopen instantly. Maybe Obama was too busy working out non-magical means to save the entire auto industry that Romney wanted to let slide into bankruptcy.

It should be obvious, even to someone as dense as Alan NJ, that Ryan's blaming the president for the closure of that plant is a bald faced lie.

yawn... romney who?

So, of COURSE his fault that he didn't wave the magic wand all presidents get when they take office and make the plant reopen instantly.

And is that also why Ryan is now saying it "isn't entirely Obama's fault" about that plant closure?

Xabre you totally confirmed my point in your very weak responses in post 2.24. I was trying to give you credit for being at least a little bright... but your response just confirmed my suspicions that your light bulb is off.

So much for recovery:

At a closely-watched speech at the Federal Reserve’s economic symposium in Jackson Hole, Wyo., the central bank’s Chairman Ben Bernanke said current economic conditions are ‘far from satisfactory.’ In particular, he called the slowly recovering labor market a ‘grave concern’ and warned the Fed alone can’t shore up the economy. He also defended the traditional and non-traditional tools the central bank has used in propping up the economy, but came short of suggesting what further actions will be taken.

Xabre you totally confirmed my point in your very weak responses in post 2.24. I was trying to give you credit for being at least a little bright... but your response just confirmed my suspicions that your light bulb is off.

Coming from you, that's most definitely a compliment.

@Houston and Xabre

I'll post this one last time. Please tell me what your version of what candidate Obama was trying to say to the workers of Janeville when he addressed them?

All I can say is that for a candidate to stand in front of workers and tell them that plants like theirs are viable but has no intention, or is powerless, to take action is pandering.

It should be obvious, even to someone as dense as Alan NJ, that Ryan's blaming the president for the closure of that plant is a bald faced lie.

I don't blame him. I just see him as a person who makes statements that pander to the particular audience but has no intention of following through, and he does have a history of this.

Gary 420

What has Obama done to deserve a second term?

Saved the country from another Great Depression. Saved the auto industry. Got Bin Laden. Orchestrated the overthrow of the Libyan dictator responsible for the murder of two hundred Americans in the bombing of an airliner over Lockerbie, Scotland.

Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?

You betcha. I've got a 401K that was decimated by the Bush economic collapse in 2008. It's now recovered fully, along with the stock market that recovered thanks in large part to Obama.

Gary 420

Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?

yup,

my 401(k) recovered nicely

I pay less in taxes (not as little as Romney pays though) under Obama than under any Republican president

Bin Laden - the #1 terrorist - will never attack the US again

we have one war instead of two

Although I live in the RomneyHood land and don't have to worry about pre-existing conditions, my family memebrs in other states don't have to worry about them either thanks to Obama

jobs are being added intead of losing 4.6 million jobs in 15 months, and it may have been better if the Republicans would stop blocking bills like: S. 3364 (Bring Jobs Home Act ) A bill to provide an incentive for businesses to bring jobs back to America.

Thanks for asking

Mitt Romney - I wish President Obama had succeeded because I want America to succeed blah, blah, blah...

Mitch Mcconnell - the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

I wonder if Republicans are smart enough to get this question so I will form it in kindergarten fashion.

Which one of these two things are not like the other? :)

You morons want to continue to lie and call it honorable you will get what you deserve.

jimmy: you prove daily that you have no role on FR except to trash other posters. You are "locked on" to Feisty. A reasonable person would inquire as to your emotional health.

If FR is too much for you, why don't you find something more enjoyable to do?

No Jo said: Wonder how many of those folks are hoping for a change?

I'm sure, plenty! That's hope and change we can count on! To coin a phrase

As usual Redhead, you're wrong blah, blah, blah...

Shame you didn't do anything to prove it but I guess ad hom attacks are the last resort of a weak mind.

Alan, NJ

I'll post this one last time. Please tell me what your version of what candidate Obama was trying to say to the workers of Janeville when he addressed them?

Obama was trying to say that he would work to save the auto industry. He made good on that promise, despite the fact that it was too late to save the plant in Janesville by the time he took office. If Ryan and Romney had their way, they would have followed the Rand philosophy of letting the U.S. auto industry die because it was weak, and the weak deserve death.

Oh, hi brianb, our resident bigot from behind bars. Don't bother replying bb, I won't see it. Well unless someone quotes your inflammatory racist rants that is. :)

Ben said: At a closely-watched speech at the Federal Reserve’s economic symposium in Jackson Hole, Wyo., the central bank’s Chairman Ben Bernanke said current economic conditions are ‘far from satisfactory.’ In particular, he called the slowly recovering labor market a ‘grave concern’ and warned the Fed alone can’t shore up the economy. He also defended the traditional and non-traditional tools the central bank has used in propping up the economy, but came short of suggesting what further actions will be taken.

Ben, do you think the love affair between Obama and Bernanke is over? It appears as though Bernanke is filing for a divorce.

@Brianb-999431

You would elect someone because they claim the other guy is doing a worse job last the last person who is his family member? Either you are insane or you are a lunatic.

You would elect someone who would make a law that would make your sister carry a baby to terms if she was raped.

You would elect someone with believe in giving 5 Trillion Dollars to millionaires, billionaires and corporations. While raising taxes on people making 30-70 thousand dollars a year.

You would elect someone the would cut programs for the poor and would transfer that to the rich.

How stupid is America I hope we are not that stupid. If you didn't through Scott walker out and he cut 1 billion dollars of education money why would you throw out President Obama because the job growth is slow.

Those are extreme positions at best. Only a lunatic would agree with them. Sir you are a lunatic.

Electing a LIAR - Robbemen is not the direction this country should go in.

You can't even tell me his plans for the country, let alone the CBO scoring his mathematically impossible budget. That would add 10 Trillion Dollars to the debt.

You heard me right ADD 10 Trillion dollars to the debt not cut it like you want President Obama to do.

Looks like the draft dodger gets secret service, evidenced that RobMyMoney is a Dirtbag, we deserve better !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You would elect someone because they claim the other guy is doing a worse job last the last person who is his family member? Either you are insane or you are a lunatic.

It's a combination trust me. :)

You are "locked on" to Feisty. A reasonable person would inquire as to your emotional health

No kidding NDD!

I'm still waiting for one of these rabid righties to explain they they are so angry?

If it was such a super week for them, shouldn't they be celebrating rather than being in a hate fueled frenzy? lol

If you were along side of me in battle, I'd stick you up so the enemy could shoot you.

You sound mentally disturbed. Internet text making you a little angry?

Alan, NJ - I'll side with Houston's facts despite his unnecessary berating tone towards you. Can you see the difference between an open 1200 strong factory scheduled to close and "basically" closed in December 2008 and a skeleton 50 man crew shuttered two months after inauguration?

Besides as other posters might have said, why the GOP outrage at the plant closing at one location if they were sufficiently satisfied to let the Big three go bankrupt thereby closing dozens, scores or hundreds of plants? If Romeny had his way this singular plant closing would have been augmented one hundred fold across the country.

Ryan's speech "factoid" although not an outright, blatant lie stretched and misrepresented the truth.

Again, Obama's "You didn't build that" quote seen in its full context referred to the infrastructure, to the american system itself that enabled people to build and grow their business. It spoke of the education system and support that individuals can get here that allows or country to thrive. No man is an island just like no man is totally self sufficient and can do it ALL on his own with no help.

YellowdogMark, thanks for adding to my view on the GOP's religious hypocrisy.

David Walker, if I didn't use humor, it would be impossible to wade through the garbage that has become the GOP.

Alan, you sound just like Paul Ryan last night. Tzalaran pretty much covered what I'd say in response to your efforts to defend a liar. If GM had planned the closure almost two years before they officially announced the plant was scheduled to close--all prior to Obama's nomination and election, and if it was officially shut down on Dec 23, 2008, there was nothing Obama could do about it. Why didn't George W Bush do something? What did Paul Ryan do? It was in his district. Did he do anything more than write letters? Did he try to get GM to build a new plant or remodel the existing one to be more productive? Sorry, Alan, but anyone who continues to defend Ryan for his lie, is as guilty as he is of lying.

I usually enjoy both party conventions but not this year. Sure, it's a lot of rah rah and biased hoopla but since 2004, there's been something different about the GOP's. I could only tolerate the GOP in bits and pieces since then. Too much hate spewing, anger, negativity, ugly, nasty and mean in nearly every speech. The barbs at the opposition are no longer funny pokes, they are mean-spirited. While I recognize the GOP was trying to present itself as a diverse group, 89% of republicans are white. I applaud their efforts to put Latinos and blacks on their stage but they must have put out an APB to find those 11% to highlight--I found it a bit offensive as it appeared more "token" minority in front while there were mostly white faces everywhere else. If you have to highlight what little diversity there is, then the GOP has a big problem looming in the future.

Good morning all my leftie friends. I see the tidie rightie collapse crew is out early

I loved the President’s tweet last night. He got it straight to that old senile geezer.

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Yup, President Obama's seat will be occupied until 2016

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Everyone have a nice day.

You sound mentally disturbed. Internet text making you a little angry?

His cage is so easy to rattle he doesn't even notice the cell door is wide open. :D

Watching the Mormon Tabernacle Liar last night was painful. He was uncomfortable; spouted his many lies; did the obligatory putdowns of our President; and presented absolutely NOTHING of value to anyone with an ounce of sense.

Again, the "crowd" was white, old, and out of it!

Why anyone would vote to take our country back centuries is beyond me!

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Alan, NJ

I'll post this one last time. Please tell me what your version of what candidate Obama was trying to say to the workers of Janeville when he addressed them?

Obama addressed them in 2008. Couple of months later -STILL IN 2008 - the plant closed. Obama didn’t take office until 2009, and the administration made no decisions about plant closings. What part of that don't you understand?

Mormon Tabernacle Liar

*snorts coffee out nose all over the monitor*

lolzzzz

Obama addressed them in 2008. Couple of months later -STILL IN 2008 - the plant closed. Obama didn’t take office until 2009, and the administration made no decisions about plant closings. What part of that don't you understand?

Obviously anything that deals with the truth.

Romney message to America: it's all about jobs, GOP candidate said the teatards in Congress pledges to create 12 million new jobs if I'm elected !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Folks this is a firts for Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

No kidding NDD!

I'm still waiting for one of these rabid righties to explain they they are so angry?

If it was such a super week for them, shouldn't they be celebrating rather than being in a hate fueled frenzy? lol

Oh my God! The perfect one made a boo boo and no liberals have said anything. I forgive you if you humble yourself and stop picking on others that make them.

You remind me so much of that commentator from NBC comedy hour Rachel Maddog Maddaw.

@Alan, NJ

you will hear no disagreement from me that it was pandering, and it has no place in our politics. We have too many important issues that need addressed, and it is sad that our campaign process has devolved into a case of, "Who panders best, wins."

Solutions... if you are going to address me, you really need to make your sentences a bit more coherent than this: You would elect someone because they claim the other guy is doing a worse job last the last person who is his family member? Either you are insane or you are a lunatic.

Personally I believe you were trying to figure out a way to get out the point that you think I'm a lunatic. Unfortunately something is lacking in the way you structure your sentences... why don't you step back a bit, regroup and try again. I'm sure you will find some other way to call me a name. Typical liberal.

Eastwood is bizarre, showing desperation ... he has been the good, later the ugly, now totally bad?

This one's over.

Poor Obama.

Poor Joe B.

Jeff - glad I made you chuckle this morning!

Jody - as usual your wrap up was spot on! I still have trouble understand how anyone can relate to people who like nothing in today's world and constantly want to take us backward. Makes no sense at all.

And, how do people put their trust - and their vote - in a person who says nothing; won't tell how he plans to accomplish anything because he doesn't have a plan; just spouts nonsense.

And THIS is the BEST the Republicans can do? Pitiful!

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I still don't trust Rmoney any farther than I could throw him. And, for the records, I'm a skinny dude and don't even think I could get him into the air to begin with.

And Ryan, standing firmly by his lies. Even while admitting they're not factually true. Just how does one decide that they're okay with being whipped up into a frenzy by known lies? How is that okay, that your candidate is continuing to beat the "we built that" slogan, which is a total misrepresentation of what Obama actually said? Why does it make you happy that your candidates are,... I can't avoid using this word again, MISREPRESENTING everything about Obama in their characterizations of him, in a way that takes advantage of every prejudice and dogma and preconceived, untested-by-reality excuse-for-a-legitimate-objection that their base has ever had about him?

If' you've got to make up lies about your opponent in order to argue against him - you really oughtta consider whether you're on the right side of the argument.

Brianb-999431Xabre - Let me tell you something. When you view something through off colored glasses, it will always appear weird to you. Since you exhibit liberal traits, you can't connect with what was being said, being done and being shown. I thought you would have figured that out.

Xabre - that's just another way of saying "you aren't trained to hear the dog whistle"

UPdate:

That old senile Clint Eastwood's bizarre rambling to an chair got more of a bump than "MYTH" and "LYIN Ryan. Meep, Meep move over " MYTH"
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Romney does not mention Issac,

however he is headed there for a photo op today.

America we are at war.

No mention of our Vets by the GOP.

Aahhh, where do I start ? First, I catch BIIGG FEASTY in a Lie, to which she doesn't have the courage to admit she was WRROOONNNNGGGGG, then OldDayYawning @2.63 tries to defend her by attacking me and questioning my purpose here. Of course, then BIIGGG FEASTY @2.74 tries to assume the role of victim .... back to the weak "crawdad move" of pretending you are being "stalked" .... because you have been CAUGHT IN A LIE ... and that was confirmed by another couple of posters, one who posts on the "liberal" side of things.

Face it libs, you have been running your mouth about all the lies you claim were part of the RNC, but then quickly demonstrate your total HYPOCRISY by spreading lies.

Obama was WRROOONNNNGGGGG !!!!!! You clowns do "just make this stuff up".

Jody,

"Marco Rubio gave a terrific speech"

Personally, I thought Romney was upstaged by Rubio who gave a much better speech than Romney did and certainly more grammatically correct. Romney probably grabbed Rubio by the ear backstage later and read him the riot act for upstaging him.

Bolstering energy independence by 2020, taking full advantage of the nation's oil, natural gas, coal, nuclear energy and renewable energy sources, which would not only reduce American dependence on foreign sources but also help bring manufacturing jobs back.

Coal is out of date. Oil we will never have enough of. Nuclear I support. Renewable I find hard to believe, given the massive criticisms Romney has given toward Obama on the matter.

2. Improving public education by taking some of the power from "union bosses" and building the skill sets in the nation's youth necessary in a new economy.

When I said "spare no detail", I meant it. This just appears to be unsupported posturing.

4. A pledge to cut spending, shrink deficits and put the country on track for a balanced budget.

I about blew my coffee all over my monitor. Romney's plan won't only not balance the budget, but will increase the current deficit. To be specific, he proposes over $600B in tax cuts, but only about $300B in spending cuts. These are facts.

5. A pledge to champion small businesses by not pushing for harmful taxes on them and by repealing what has become known as "Obamacare."

Oh here we go again: "I'm going to repeal and replace Obamacare", with what exactly? Obama has cut taxes to small businesses. The ACA is based off of Massachusett's own reform.

Alan, NJ - Here's the bottom line Alan, the Bureau of Labor Statistics found that the U.S. economy has seen 22 consecutive months of private-sector job growth, beginning in Feb. 2010. During that 22-month period, the number of jobs grew by almost 3.16 million, or about 143,000 per month.

Republicans seized control of both branches of the legislature in 11 states after the 2010 elections. It’s in these very states that public sector layoffs are disproportionately concentrated, leading to one of the biggest rounds of job losses for the public workforce since record keeping began. Governors and state legislators promised to focus on creating jobs and balancing budgets during campaign season—even newly elected Pennsylvania Governor Tom Corbett still claims that creating jobs is one of his “top priorities.” Instead, these newly Republican states are targeting public workers, causing a significant drop in employment in the public sector that has threatened the entire economy.

The Republican Party might want to downplay the economy before the American People figure this out. The Tea Party did you no favors.

Steve Benen, Maddowblog:
Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies

Huffington Post:
PAUL TALES: RYAN MISLEADS, AGAIN AND AGAIN

Politicsusa:
5 Biggest lies in Romney’s speech:

Bob Cesca:
Paul Ryan’s Speech: Lies, Lies and More Lies

Washington Post Editorial Board:
Mr. Ryan’s misleading speech

Factcheck.org
“Paul Ryan’s acceptance speech at the Republican convention contained several false claims and misleading statements.”

And it goes on and on and on...........

When all everyone is talking about is your lies, you know you are in trouble.

OMG ToxicChemist, freaken talking points are not a platform, they're a bunch of words rhetorically strung together.

And you talk about others doing their homework. Maybe you should realize your audience as being better educated than yourself.

Concern Citizen-856329

Folks this is a firts for Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

No kidding NDD!

I'm still waiting for one of these rabid righties to explain they they are so angry?

If you are going to point out a grammatical error you may want to check your own rants.

firts??

Wow Jody -- that is about the most foolish and ill conceived "review" I have ever read. It is very sad that you obviously are educated and able to communicate clearly, yet you are so clearly fooled and blinded by your liberal ideology that you cannot step back, look at reality, and realize that there are many things wrong with America today and many of them are the result of liberalism in general and Obama in particular.

Mitt Romney is not the answer to everything that is wrong today and he certainly will not and cannot address and fix every issue, however, he can move us away from socialism and economic collapse -- problems Obama is accelerating. You, and others like you, need to read the Constitution and the writings of the Founders of this nation. You need to read the writings of past great leaders, including Democrats like Kennedy and Roosevelt, and you need to understand that this country has principles that define it and our leaders, Democrats, Republicans, Whigs alike, always believed in the greatness of this country and fought to preserve its existence, its uniqueness, and its greatness. Obama believes in a country that is not what any of our founders and past leaders believed in and he has done much to destroy that country that so many worked so hard for so long to build. For that alone he needs to be done.

The journey back to what the founders aspired for this country to be is going to be long and hard, but, to make this journey we have to begin by taking the first steps. You might not like Romney or the Republicans and you might not believe in all of their ideas, but you cannot accept that continuing to follow Obama and continuing to go the wrong way is an answer.

So... quit your scathing ideology driven commentary, get your head out of the sand and admit Obama has taken us too far down a wrong path and we need to start getting back on track. Right now, that means Mitt -- even if you have to swallow hard and accept the bad ideas just to get the good. He is one step. After him we can find another who will take the next step without breaking what Mitt will fix, and after him, another. Sorry to break the news to you but Obama has failed and whining about Romney does not change that.

Oh Jody.... (swoon)... your writings are always the best... they never slant opinions or spin away with any of the liberal talking points liberals are so fond of using. My goodness, if a liberal Pulitzer for blogging could be given, you'd be the first recipient of it. I love the way you always promote the liberal point of view... you expose to me the exacting standards of how liberals view things... you open the door to my mind to convince me exactly how disgusting liberals can be and live within the hatred boundaries they are so well know for. You live up to your ideology with stellar performance. Thank you for cluing me in on the latest trends of liberalism and to allow me the opportunity to enhance my stance against what you believe in.

Hey Feisty

I hear IR loaded George Straits "The Chair" on the old juke box.

Care to dance?

ALL the jobs went to China right where Romney sent them!!

Yep, he not only is a liar he's disingenuous to those who prospered off his actions, namely the Chinese.

Alan NJ:

I don't blame him. I just see him as a person who makes statements that pander to the particular audience but has no intention of following through, and he does have a history of this.

What you call "pandering" would be called "campaigning" by more rational observers. All candidates talk about issues of local concern when they're out campaigning, including of course Romney. Obama made no "promise" to keep the plant open as Ryan lied. The final decision to close the plant was made several months after he gave his speech and before he took office, so Obama had no way of knowing when he made his Janesville speech that saving the plant would be beyond the power of government by the time he took office.

A politician who is really guilty of pandering is Mitt Romney with his viciously race-baiting lies about welfare, unfunny birther jokes, and many flip-flops to please the most extreme elements in the GOP. Another shameless panderer is Paul Ryan not only with his lies about that plant closure, but because of his hypocrisy about the Simpson-Bowles proposal that he himself voted against while blaming Obama for not adopting it, and the cowardice he demonstrated when he threw his idol Ayn Rand under the bus when too many people became aware that she was a pro-abortion rights atheist who detested Saint Ronald of Reagan.

Jody, as always completely AMAZING!

It was definitely a week of super highs and super lows. My super high was this:

http://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/241392153148915712/photo/1

Sense of humor is SO important.

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Alan

Disengenous at best:

http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/19465899.html

Public Announcement filed per state regulations. Yet, PHASE OUT operations are board determined months and even YEARS in advance. Phase out operations are a basic accounting method where you can begin to deduct losses as 'extraordinary' once that date is determined.

Losses associated with discontinued operations, which measure both the loss from the phase-out period and the estimated loss on the sale of the operations. To qualify, however, the operations have to be separable from the firm.

It is OBVIOUS that the Phase Out date was determined LONG before Candidate Obama campaigned there.

What is even more OBVIOUS is that a Congressman Ryan - in touch with his constituency would have and surely should have been aware of this prior to the Public announcement. So what did HE do specifically to attempt to save the plant?

I mean come on now,...surely he took immediate action, right?

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And now R$mney is cast in the part of "President" and must run off to New Orleans for some "Presidential" photo ops.

By looking at his calendar, it appears he is done 'rallying' with the peasants and will only accept an audience with private donors in private - off calendar events:

http://mittromneycentral.com/resources/calendar/

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and mklkit, here's a 'few' more:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/30/paul_ryan_the_definitive_fact_check/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/aug/29/night-two-tampa-running-mate-and-more/

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0830/Paul-Ryan-s-factual-shortcuts-in-convention-speech

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/paul-ryans-dishonest-speech/2012/08/30/16bb62d8-f24f-11e1-adc6-87dfa8eff430_blog.html

http://www.taylormarsh.com/blog/2012/08/paul-ryan-lands-received-as-new-conservative-leader/

http://www.businessinsider.com/paul-ryan-speech-fact-check-on-aaa-credit-rating-2012-8#ixzz2543ha7BC

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-ryan-takes-factual-shortcuts-speech-070905927.html

"We won't have the fact-checkers dictate our campaign" - Neil Newhouse, R$mney Campaign

Alan - Does Obama make meaningless statements, sure his "I'm fifth most popular here" at an NBA Jordan fundraiser. I'm sure my "friends" on the other side can add their own favorite meaningless Obama statements. In response I could post a page of Bushisims. It would be pretty fruitless, no?

However, I'm not sure if I buy that his idea about the plant and supporting american manufacturing is a meaningless statement. Not sure if it was pandering either, I think Obama does want to support american jobs in manufacturing. I would bet deep down you believe he does also, but you disagree with his policy methods. Questin, did Obama not support american manufacturing in his support for the bailout? My idealogy which you probably disagree with is Obama is attempting to support manufacturing by minimizing outsourcing - (stopping tax breaks for outsourcing).

Alan, although Obama is President a powerful office yes, his words are not law, they are not edicts. He is a President not a Dictator. Just because he says something and it doesn't come to pass doesn't make it meaningless.

Xabre - that's just another way of saying "you aren't trained to hear the dog whistle"

Going off of a Star Trek theme, I'd say it's more like the Borg haven't assimilated me yet. But you know, "resistance is futile".

:(

In the paragraph, Romney's pitch to women, NBC's Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Brooke Brower need to get their FACTS straight. RICE IS NOT THE SECRETARY OF STATE!!!!!!!!!!! SHE IS THE FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pigotry said: Eastwood is bizarre, showing desperation ... he has been the good, later the ugly, now totally bad?

I guess you'll never view another Eastwood movie then will you Pigotry... Can we call that a protest? While you remove Clint from your playlist, will you also be removing every other conservative actor/actress as well? Why not? After all you need to live up to your ideology. I'll admit that I never watch Alec Baldwin... not because he's a liberal, but because he's a terrible actor.

Do any contemporary politicians still write their own speeches or do they simply say what some committee comprised of demographers and pollsters tell them to say? Watching the speeches I was struck by how there was no flow, no central theme. Instead, the viewer was presented with short and disjointed statements.

Frankly, I found the speakers were far more interested in telling me what a committee thinks I want to hear rather than sharing with me their personal vision of where they think we should be going and how they plan to motivate and lead.

Romney opened his presentation with comments related to how the country responds to the results of an election. Romney claims that after last election we all went back to our lives filled with hope that all the promises and proposals made in the campaign would come true. But this is not at all true. After the last election the majority did go back to work with hope that potential would become reality but the minority refused to cooperate. The minority refused to accept the will of the majority and refused to come together with the majority as they vowed to do nothing in support of the President and his policies ..... and by extension, do nothing in support of the American people.

Democratic countries are not businesses. CEO's do not campaign to win the backing of employees. Employees are not consulted about issues that may impact the health of the company. If a division isn't profitable they are sold or allowed to simply die and if that means people will lose their jobs and benefits well..... CEOs answer to Boards of Directors, not employees. Mitt Romney fully understands this and has done a great job in maximizing profit to investors over the needs of those employed. That's what CEOs do. They put people last.

Care to dance?

ScreamingLib,

I would ♥ to! Thought you would never ask!

PS: I see Blatina is still stalking me... she has one serious crush on me! ☺

ToxicChemist - Thank you for spelling out Romney's 5 point plan in post #2.86. I appreciate it but don't delude yourself... Liberals will not get it... will still believe Obama's 0 point plan for economic recovery and will still support the worst president this country has ever had. Being worse than Jimmy Carter is going the extra mile in failure.

Let's clarify a few things:

1. These are politicians we are talking about. Politicians have a propensity for pandering to the group they are in front of, therefore you shouldn't be shocked when they have an exclusive "function" for major donors, etc. Fundraiser/event on a yaht- yeah all rich people, is that any different than President Obama closing down 1/3 of Westport, CT to have a party at a Hollywood producer's house with his donors? Mince words, but it's all the same.

2. "Lies". It's a bit disengenuous to claim that the RNC is the only source of non-truths. The Obama administration and campaign have liberally used the media and their associates to spread non-truths about Romney, etc. BTW- It works, alot. All you do is have someone you can stand away from drop a mental bomb on the public in a speech/address- doesn't have to be true, just interesting enough to become a mental note in the pubic's mind, then walk away. It then becomes a matter of clearing things up which takes far too long to do(a few days) and the public moves on not listening to any resolution and you scored a point while telling a lie.

3. Religion. Sure you can bash Romney for being Mormon or Ryan for being a Catholic or both for selective religion or using religion to set anti(insert group here) doctrine, that's your right but remember that yet again they aren't alone. President Obama uses religion for his political gains- affiliation, attendence when it's election season, invoking scripture when convenient, etc. I think you all are having selective memory problems.

4. Eastwood. I saw it and I saw Maddow's reaction. A bit long, yep. A bit clunky, yep. Bad- no. For those whom found it bizarre- it's called politicalcomedy. Eastwood played a role in front of the crowd and presented his perspective in a humerous way, discussing the issues with an empty seat. Why an empty seat? Well, he wasn't going to get the President to show so he used the empty seat as a discriptor for the President and his comments as a means to jab the President's positions. You can add levels as you wish. The point was to take some jabs at the President while engaging the crowd and set up the later speakers with a happy crowd. A theatrical presentation for setting up Romney's address. I understand why so many people, like Maddow, were speechless- it's rare that Hollywood actors do something against democrats, so it was bizarre to them to see it presented. Had it been Whoopi Goldberg slamming Romney the same way they would have been giddy, proclaiming the comedy as cutting and laden with poignant elements.

ToxicChemist - Thank you for spelling out Romney's 5 point plan in post #2.86.

He didn't spell out anything. He provided talking points. Probably because when details are examined (see Romney's "balanced budget" claim) we see the platform really isn't what he claims it is.

Campdog said: Do any contemporary politicians still write their own speeches or do they simply say what some committee comprised of demographers and pollsters tell them to say? Watching the speeches I was struck by how there was no flow, no central theme. Instead, the viewer was presented with short and disjointed statements.

We'll find out when Obama accepts his party nomination. What will the teleprompter have him say? What will the writers put in front of him to explain all of his tremendous successes over the past 4 years... wait... that part will be omitted. He's had no such successes. I guess creative writing will have to take over... we'll see... I'm sitting on pins and needles awaiting that speech.

Brianb: Since you exhibit liberal traits, you can't connect with what was being said, being done and being shown.

Liberal traits? Nice condescension there, Brian! Contrary to what you think, there is room, and freedom, for opposing points of view. Even yours. Contrary to what you think, liberalism is a viable form of thought and we are capable of connecting with many other forms of thought. If they would only try to connect with us.

the liberal/progressive agenda. I find most of it offensive and it literally makes me ill.

That is certainly your prerogative. You do understand, don’t you, that liberals might have the same feelings about conservatism? Again, we are entitled to our differences. For you to write off liberalism because it is not what you believe, is unfortunate.

Bush had to cowtow to the whims of the democrat congress. I realize most liberals don't understand that, but that's politics in the real world.

Does that mean you can understand why Obama has been unable to move? Not only is he dealing with whims of congress, he is dealing with the stated intent of his opposition to make him fail. Politics? Real world?

Xabre said: He didn't spell out anything. He provided talking points.

He did repeat what Romney said last night. They weren't talking points. You really need to try harder with your arguments Xabre... You just put things on the board to be argumentative. So be it. Seems you lose a whole lot more than you win... actually you never win...

But... like I said... liberals will never understand because they allow their hatred for anything conservative rule their words.

While we are on the subject of what the candidates will do to help our country... explain to me exactly what Obama's plans are to course correct the economy... God knows he's given enough speeches over the past few years to spell it out in plain language... Maybe I wasn't paying attention...

We don't need "NOSTALGIC OPTIMISM" to lead our Country. It has its place on the book shelf. But what we do need is reform in order to move FORWARD with changing the way elections are done, eliminate the Electoral College, eliminate the wasteful money spent on elections, reform on the taxes with the wealthy and corporate elite, and eliminate all Super Pacs and Lobbyists. Going back to the Regan days does nothing to help us now, or in the future.

He did repeat what Romney said last night. They weren't talking points. You really need to try harder with your arguments Xabre... You just put things on the board to be argumentative. So be it. Seems you lose a whole lot more than you win... actually you never win...

Proposals without details are the very definition of talking points.

But... like I said... liberals will never understand because they allow their hatred for anything conservative rule their words.

Yeah, and you don't spew anything hateful. It's not like a few posts ago you stated you wanted another poster dead or anything...

The Federal Bailout That Saved Mitt Romney

Government documents prove the candidate's mythology is just that

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-federal-bailout-that-saved-mitt-romney-20120829#ixzz2542ZJRd2

Mitt Romney likes to say he won't "apologize" for his success in business. But what he never says is "thank you" – to the American people – for the federal bailout of Bain & Company that made so much of his outsize wealth possible.

According to the candidate's mythology, Romney took leave of his duties at the private equity firm Bain Capital in 1990 and rode in on a white horse to lead a swift restructuring of Bain & Company, preventing the collapse of the consulting firm where his career began. When The Boston Globe reported on the rescue at the time of his Senate run against Ted Kennedy, campaign aides spun Romney as the wizard behind a "long-shot miracle," bragging that he had "saved bank depositors all over the country $30 million when he saved Bain & Company."

In fact, government documents on the bailout obtained by Rolling Stone show that the legend crafted by Romney is basically a lie. The federal records, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, reveal that Romney's initial rescue attempt at Bain & Company was actually a disaster – leaving the firm so financially strapped that it had "no value as a going concern." Even worse, the federal bailout ultimately engineered by Romney screwed the FDIC – the bank insurance system backed by taxpayers – out of at least $10 million. And in an added insult, Romney rewarded top executives at Bain with hefty bonuses at the very moment that he was demanding his handout from the feds.

Maybe you should realize your audience as being better educated than yourself.

Haha you have to be kidding, Jeff. How many $70 million manufacturing plants have critical analytical tests developed by you? I'm living the American dream dispite the efforts of your Dear "cult-like" leader.

ToxicChemist

your Romney plan is as "detailed" as Paul Ryan's :"in 4 years we will add 12 million jobs. Thank you and good night."

When someone asks you to give him details, they mean details, not some vague statements

Haha you have to be kidding, Jeff. How many $70 million manufacturing plants have critical analytical tests developed by you? I'm living the American dream dispite the efforts of your Dear "cult-like" leader.

Toxic: tuck your nose away, it just got huge.

ToxicChemist

I'm living the American dream dispite the efforts of your Dear "cult-like" leader.

tell me what actual "cut-like" efforts are you referring to? Any details? You seam to omit those habitually

Alan - Does Obama make meaningless statements, sure his "I'm fifth most popular here" at an NBA Jordan fundraiser. I'm sure my "friends" on the other side can add their own favorite meaningless Obama statements. In response I could post a page of Bushisims. It would be pretty fruitless, no?

Comparing a statement of support at a plant with an uncertain future, and a remark at an NBA fundraiser I would argue are two different things. As to Bushisims, lets not go there. We know English was his second language where as we are told Obama is the greatest wordsmith of his generation. The fact that he, Obama, cannot put phrases of a sentence or paragraph in the correct order

"Bridges and Roads" , "If you have a business", "You didn't build that"

makes me think that we have set the bar too high for this wordsmith.

However, I'm not sure if I buy that his idea about the plant and supporting american manufacturing is a meaningless statement. Not sure if it was pandering either, I think Obama does want to support american jobs in manufacturing. I would bet deep down you believe he does also, but you disagree with his policy methods. Questin, did Obama not support american manufacturing in his support for the bailout? My idealogy which you probably disagree with is Obama is attempting to support manufacturing by minimizing outsourcing - (stopping tax breaks for outsourcing).

I agree with your point about tax breaks and outsourcing. In general I doubt anyone would disagree. However, if you read the bill proposed by Senator Durbin I believe, the definitions as to what are outsourcing expenses, and therefore not deductible, and re-training expenses which are deductible, it becomes yet another complicated addition to an already convoluted tax code.

Alan, although Obama is President a powerful office yes, his words are not law, they are not edicts. He is a President not a Dictator. Just because he says something and it doesn't come to pass doesn't make it meaningless.

How does it not make it meaningless. Romney claims he will create 12 million jobs in four years. If that doesn't come to pass then what are his words if not meaningless. I am sure you will hold Romney to this standard so why not Obama?

Don't make promises you cannot keep, otherwise you are simply pandering.

'Honey Boo Boo' ratings top Republican National Convention

I'll take all of the above for Energy policy, Xabre. You, on the other hand can sit on the dark, powerless flight deck of the Starship Enterprise in the coldness of space for all I'm concerned. Just don't expect me to sit there with you.

In Romney's speech, he apparently does not know who the Secretary of State is. Just as these authors of this article wrote incorrectly, so did Romney in his speech call Rice, the Secretary of State rather than the former Secretary of State. And so goes the manipulation of facts.

Felden said several things... but among them he didn't mention that liberals are of the mindset to shut down conservative thought. I get personally attacked for my ideas... and that's OK... I subject myself to this board and am willing to suffer through liberal condescension. It goes with the territory. On that note... I have just as much a right to condescend bad ideas from the left. So in essence I agree with part of what you say... there is open discussion and the sharing of opposing ideas. Freedom of speech is grand, isn't it Felden?

Does that mean you can understand why Obama has been unable to move? Not only is he dealing with whims of congress, he is dealing with the stated intent of his opposition to make him fail. Politics? Real world?

Step back a bit Felden... isn't the president supposed to be a leader? If he is a leader wouldn't it be his responsibility to calm down those opposing forces? I mean, he has 2/3's of government on his side... Unfortunately in 2010, the people decided they had enough of complete domination by the democrats and placed republicans in charge of the house. Maybe liberal domination isn't what this country wants... irregardless of what the liberals say.

@Sandy #2.97, Apparently you desire to join the ranks of BIIGGG FEASTY ... that of telling a lie !

Wow ! You guys really do "just make this stuff up".

In the spellbinding speech of former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (without teleprompter), she boldly and clearly talked about American exceptionalism and the role of U.S. troops in securing and maintaining world peace. She talked about the sacrifices our troops had made and were still making to preserve our way of life. NO ONE has made it more clear that our troops are appreciated than was done by Condi Rice.

Another liberal lie is put to rest.

Alan, NJ

first, let's address the Ryan statement because I really want to hear your answer: did Paul Ryan lie when he said: "That plant was shut down in 2009." Yes or no will do.

So it seems you both agree that Obama's words are meaningless and he was pandering to his audience.

I'm not really sure when I said I agree to that. Could you provide MY quote???

BTW Bayllie, the plant in question, Janesville, was mothballed along with two others.

Now this is a big one so pay attention. Can you give me Obama's quote that confirms Ryan's statement as true: "I remember President Obama visiting it when he was first running, saying he'll keep that plant open," Ryan said. "One more broken promise

I am sure you can also find a video of Obama saying it because I know you would NEVER make unsupported statements. Now, this is the Obama REAL comment:

"I know that General Motors received some bad news yesterday, and I know how hard your governor has fought to keep jobs in this plant. But I also know how much progress you've made -- how many hybrids and fuel-efficient vehicles you're churning out," Obama said. "And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years."

So where exactly did Obama say what Paul Ryan is claiming he said?

tell me what actual "cut-like" efforts are you referring to?

OK Bayllie, to start with post #2.35....'nough said.

Hey Xabre, Jeff making personal attacks (evidently that is all he has). At least I am not sitting in the dark powerless fight deck of the Enterprise as you would be under Obama's Energy policy....

Jody as usual a fantastic wrap up. There were lots of tidbits the Clown Show the RNC gave.

4 more 4 44

Obama/Biden 2012

Nojoe....Thank you for your post #2.6. Seems that, as usual, the left is afraid of the truth being spoken and the media continues to control the narrative. I saw no offense in your post and yet once again honest is shut down.

As for Romney's speech...He hit it out of the ball park. He addressed his platform warts and all. I don't agree with everything he had to say but the majority of his talking points were dead on how to fix what has been broken in America.

I believe that he is a man of great integrity and great compassion, certainly qualities that Americans need to lead from the front. I really want that in our next President, and America really needs that now.

I believe that he has the skills and will put forward policy and sign legislation that will lead to millions of jobs created to benefit young people graduating from College. I believe that he will encourage the business to bring back outsourced, off-shored jobs to benefit middle America and enable them to control their own destiny and to control their own wealth and well being.

I believe that he will count every citizen among his responsibilities and will not acknowledge or promote the pay to play atmosphere that created such a tremendous divide in our own nation. I believe that through compassion and commonsense that he will elevate America to the high standard of integrity and strength that made America great. I believe that Romney can promote a Renaissance in the United States and lead other nations down that same path through negotiation free and "fair" trade between America and our trading partners.

I believe he will restore strength and integrity to our Military and he will provide each of those troops with the tools and the leadership to protect themselves as they are protecting America and our allies. I believe that he will empower our Allies with their own right to protect themselves and their countrymen. I believe that Mitt Romney will lead our nation back to a position of strength and integrity and that he will not take that responsibility lightly or orchestrate a false narrative to suit a persona agenda.

I believe that he will and should repeal Obama care and as he said "replace that legislation" with a system that will benefit all not punish some to elevate others, or unfairly tax some to exercise some bastardized, self perceived, unilateral, power of the office of the President. I believe that he will bring back the integrity, honesty and good faith that is so needed from the occupant of the oval office.

I believe in his message to women. I believe he will support and honor the women in this country to achieve any goals they may have in life and to empower them to stand equally with men in this country without having to rely on some truly ridiculous special interest legislation. I believe that he sees all of the Obama special interest groups as a part of this country and not as some "special class" to be given advantage because so many of the leaders of this nation truly believe that special interest should be offered to level the playing field. Women, people of color, People of no specific color, people in deference of what they believe or choose not to believe in a deity or specific ideology and people of any specific sexual preference truly are competent to compete and fully participate in this country because the commonality is stronger than the difference in the human race.

I believe that American representation can come together and solve our National Debt problems. Not by punishing some and giving favor to others rather by doing what Obama promised and failed to do. Reorganizing duplicate and redundant federal programs, Identify and eliminate avenues of corruption to federal dollars and by giving back dignity to so many who need support of the government but are sent to the back of the line because opportunists know how the play the system. I believe that Mitt Romney will endeavor to allow every American the best opportunity to live a dignified and satisfied life.

I believe that he will give back to the States and Commonwealths the powers that belong to them. I believe he will empower and support the States to fulfill their own needs and mandates an not demand a one size fits all standard to 300,000,000+ people in this country.

I can't say that I agreed with every position he holds. I don't believe the Government should legislate what a woman can do with her body or the product of her body before that product can sustain life outside of the womb. Women are uniquely qualified to make their own decisions about their reproductive capability. He and I are probably in agreement that the Government should not fund abortions (or various methods of birth control) at any stage with the exception of rape, incest and where an indigent woman's life is at risk to carry a pregnancy. I believe that woman should retain that control over their own choice. If a woman can get pregnant of her own accord and she chooses abortion then she should have tha control to afford that choice. If she chooses adult behavior then she should assume adult responsibility.

I am not sure that I will agree with his policy on immigration. I do not see him altering the executive order that Obama issued to young people and the Dream legislation. His family history is one where his immigrant father followed the prescribed path to naturalization and controlled his own destiny to participate fully in the American dream. I have a tremendous respect for his father and what his father built out of his own life and the legacy he left his children. I see, in Romney, a desire to share that opportunity with those in this country who have come here because they gave up on the opportunity that their home countries have abandoned long ago. His plan for immigration has yet to unfold and a I may not agree with his approach but I certainly admire the dedication and compassion that drives his commitment to a better and stronger America.

I do believe that Mitt Romney will lead this nation back to greatness and open every door to prosperity that he can in the office of the President through the legislative powers that be in Congress. I believe that he has the intention of offering every individual in this country dignity and opportunity and that he will hold the office of the Presidency with the highest level of respect and grace.

I will vote to give Mitt Romney the shovel to dig America out of our rut and to strengthen our nation once again. We can't strengthen our own country if we owe others. We must do everything we can to pay back China so that we have a voice at the table with regard to free and trade.

Hey Xabre, Jeff making personal attacks (evidently that is all he has).

Ah yes, calling out lies is a 'personal attack'.

At least I am not sitting in the dark powerless fight deck of the Enterprise as you would be under Obama's Energy policy....

Indeed. That's why after three and a half years, I'm totally without power.

What I really can't understand is why the GOP doesn't understand that everything Paul Ryan and Romney have said about President Obama is untrue.....everything they say he DIDN'T do are things that he COULDN'T do because the GOP blocked it one way or the other. This goes for job creation, budgets, etc. The "Party of No" are the ones to blame for nothing getting done the past 3-1/2 years by our president. When some of the Tea Party politicians were elected in 2010....wasn't there a "Promise to America" that said they would create jobs? Yet, the first thing they did was have a secret meeting and decide that their main goal was to make President Obama a one-term president. What does that do to help our country.....apparently, they didn't care about the suffering it would cause the Lower and Middle Class by obstructing the things that were put forth to help us.....they were ONLY interested in making our president look bad. They had NO intention of creating jobs or doing any of the things they promised they were going to do if elected. Well, they were elected....nothing got done. But, it has finally backfired on them.....people (at least people with brains and open minds) can now SEE what caused the problems we're having now.....and the Republicans want to exacerbate these problems if and when they are elected. I guess I just don't understand why more people can't seem to understand what happened during the last 3-1/2 years and the cause of it.....the Republicans!! So, they have to lie to get around the truth.....and hopefully, more people will see this.

If Romney wants to go back to the good ole 1950's - how about going back to Eisenhower's tax rates and Eisenhower's ideas about what legitimate deductions should look like?

Brian999......

I don't have a crystal ball and I don't know what Obama will say. I do know what Romney said and I assume you do as well. Perhaps you could explain how ccutting Medicaid and the funds it provides for the care of the elderly is going to help me and my family. Perhaps you can explain how America is going to restrict privately held corporations from selling domestically produced oil internationally. Perhaps you can tell us how sending 12,000,000 consumers out of the country is going to help restore the economy.

You're good at telling us what others have said. Please use your skills to explain the meaning of what Romney has said.

Jody,

Love your weekly recaps!

NoJo: Put simply, they knocked it out of the park,

Really?

Let's see:

Keynote Speaker: Chris Christie

What everyone was talking about the next day: Complete disregard for whom he was there to speak for. Christie speech focused on himself rather than Mitt Romney. Getting ready for 2016?

VP Acceptance Speech: Paul Ryan

What everyone was talking about the next day: How Ryan was fast and loose with facts. Even right leaning media outlets were questioning this. He now has the handle of "Lyin Ryan".

Pres. Acceptance Speech: Mitt Romney

What everyone was talking about the next day: Clint Eastwood

If the RNC was trying to introduce Mitt Romney to the American people and frame his image then Feisty had it exactly right, Epic Fail.

ToxicChemist

OK Bayllie, to start with post #2.35....'nough said.

How does post by haggisbingo-2225582 explain what YOU mean by: "cult-like leader efforts"???????? Below is your quote. Please explain what you mean by OUR Dear cult-like leader efforts:

I'm living the American dream dispite the efforts of your Dear "cult-like" leader.

first, let's address the Ryan statement because I really want to hear your answer: did Paul Ryan lie when he said: "That plant was shut down in 2009." Yes or no will do.

No he didn't. The plant was finally closed in April 2009. Politifact can argue that it was effectively closed in December 2008 but there were still light trucks being produced until April.

OK, so now I'll take the third part of your question.

"I know that General Motors received some bad news yesterday, and I know how hard your governor has fought to keep jobs in this plant. But I also know how much progress you've made -- how many hybrids and fuel-efficient vehicles you're churning out," Obama said. "And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years."

I'll combine what we both agree the President said with Politifact.

That's a statement of belief that, with government help, the Janesville plant could remain open -- but not a promise to keep it open.

Now, up until yesterday I have never heard any journalist refer to a statement by a politician as "statement of belief". But lets take that at face value and agree it was not a "promise". WTF was he up there saying? Was he just giving the workers some lawyer talk that the plant could survive given the caveats in his speech? Maybe if he explicitly said this plant will be here for another hundred years, but only if you get government help, and assistance to re-tool, WHICH I CAN'T GUARANTEE, it would have been clear he was simply mouthing some platitudes and his words carry no meaning.

Which brings me to your second question

Obama addressed them in 2008. Couple of months later -STILL IN 2008 - the plant closed. Obama didn’t take office until 2009, and the administration made no decisions about plant closings. What part of that don't you understand?

The administration made no decisions about the plant closing, except that through inaction decided that there was to be no government help for the Janesville plant.

I would love to hear from a worker who was at that meeting whether he/she thought that candidate Obama was offering support, or simply conveying some philosophical point.

@Clara

It is OBVIOUS that the Phase Out date was determined LONG before Candidate Obama campaigned there.

Candidate Obama referenced the fact that they had recently received bad news from GM during the speech...see Bayllie's quote.

..........because Obama's record is a failure !

If his record is a failure, it's only because of the obstructionism of the Republicans, who vowed they would do everything they could to make him fail and a one-term president.

Obama/Biden 2012

Please explain what you mean by OUR Dear cult-like leader efforts:

Really, Bayllie? You have to have it explained to you? This doesn't look like propaganda totalitarian ditatorship? It could be Mao Zedong, Adolf Hitler, Ruhollah Khomeini or Chiang Kai-Shek.

"Personality cults were first described in relation to totalitarian regimes that sought to radically alter or transform society according to radical ideas.^[1] Often, a single leader became associated with this revolutionary transformation, and came to be treated as a benevolent "guide" for the nation without whom the transformation to a better future couldn't occur."

(Xabre) That's why after three and a half years, I'm totally without power.

Xabre ....Yes, that must be why you have your have your hand on your head.

ToxicChemist

Really, Bayllie? You have to have it explained to you? This doesn't look like propaganda totalitarian ditatorship? It could be Mao Zedong, Adolf Hitler, Ruhollah Khomeini or Chiang Kai-Shek.

dude, giving me definitions of SOME dictatorships does not equal to giving me examples of why YOU feel Obama is a dictator. Give me specific policies that would qualify as dictatorships. Holy CRAP!

campdog - the only one that has taken money from medicaid is Obama... $700+ billion... So far Romney hasn't touched a cent of it... nor has Ryan... so your assumption that Romney will take anything from it is pure speculation. It's been said over and over and over and over again that Romney will do this... Romney will do that... when those doing all the saying don't know crap. It's getting old, tiring and meaningless. We do know what Obama has done... but that's perfectly OK for him to rob a fund you have been putting your money into all your life. Makes perfect sense to me... NOT.

Another example of why you have such low IQ... do you have to ask the question as to what religion they were? What if they weren't religious? What if they were atheists? Do you think by asking that question someone will jump over it and say we know, when it wasn't revealed? What difference does it make? Did he help other human beings? The answer was yes... You really don't know much about Mormonism do you? You sure do like to present assumptions though.

BrianB....There you go again with that lie about Obama taking out 700 billion plus.......That has been debunked nationally over and over as A BIG LIE. Why do you repeatedly lie about it? Proves all the more Ryan/Romney and Repubs LIE ABOUT ANYTHING!

The 700 billion dollars came from money Obama and staff found as waste, fraud, and streamling the program for better results. All that money Obama plan NEVER TOOK OUT of the health care, it was instead put back into the plan for more coverage, for more people, and for a longer period time coverage. SO YOU LIED Brian! WHY, Because Romney and Ryan do it every day?

Ryan saw that same money 700 billion plus and RYAN STOLE IT TO GIVE TO THE RICH IN FORM OF LOWER TAXES! That's right..RYAN STOLE 700 billion and took it our of health care and gave it to rich. Ryan plan cut health care to all the people paying into it. Ryan plan shortens life of health care.

Alan, NJ

No he didn't. The plant was finally closed in April 2009. Politifact can argue that it was effectively closed in December 2008 but there were still light trucks being produced until April.

I get it Alan, everyone calling Ryan's statement a lie is a liar except Ryan and you. Now I know why you like Romney - he doesn't like fact checkers either. The fact checkers come up with FACTS. Not a currency Romney/Ryan deal with.

Ryan failed to mention that the announcement to close the Janesville plant came in June of 2008, after then-candidate Obama spoke there, and the initial projected date for its closing was 2010. Now you do realize that GM is privately owned company right? Don't you Repubs are all about free market? But now you and Paul Ryan wanted the government to force GM to do something else?

The plant effectively shut down in December 2008, with a skeleton crew staying on until April 2009. A small contract with Isuzi kept a skeleton crew at the plant until it was completed. Had it not been for that contract, they all would have been laid off. But it was a done deal. Paperwork signed. People laid off. Bills paid. Equipment liquidated. Doors shut. GM - the private industry - made its decision. Alan, are you for government-run auto industry or something? You wanted the government to reopen the plant? I'm confused.

And Obama said: I believe [not "I will"] that if our government is there to support you … this plant will be here for another hundred years.’ so guess what, the government was not there in December of 2008 when the plant SHUT down. The Bush Administration was not there to prevent the plant from shutting down. Had the Obama Administration been there in Decemeber of 2008, he would have done what he did for the entire Detroit.

Romney was against bailing out Detroit, remember? Romney 'til this day says he would have NOT HELPED DETROIT so your fingerpointing should be directed towards the very person WHO WOULD HAVE LET THE ENTIRE AUTO INDUSTRY FAIL and stop concentrating on a plant that shut down in 2008.

Candidate Obama referenced the fact that they had recently received bad news from GM during the speech...see Bayllie's quote.

Spin all you want, Alan but you still have not provided me with a video or even a link to Obama's quote that would confirm Ryan's lie:

“I remember President Obama visiting it when he was first running, saying he’ll keep that plant open." Paul Ryan

Easy, give me the video, Alan, that shows Obama saying those words: "I will keep that plant open". If you cannot show me that video, it's time to admit that Paul Ryan is a liar which the rest of the world already knows. I'm pretty sure Paul Ryan knows as well, he's a smart guy, so it's you who believes in Ryan's lies.

HEY ALAN,

The Almighty PAUL RYAN joined with other Wisconsin legislators to lobby GM to keep the plant open but they were unsuccessful. I guess even Paul Ryan couldn't do sh*t to change GM's mind.

Hey Xabre, Jeff making personal attacks (evidently that is all he has).

*breaks out the worlds smallest violin* :)

Hey Mr. "Distortion Factory" Watch the economic / unemployment numbers for the first few months after Romney is elected/sworn into office. You will see who's ideas are right and who's are wrong. It will be just like Jimmy Carter and the Iranian hostages.......BTW, Mr. Distortion I don't have to resort to namecalling like you do.

White Collar Auto

Mit Romney - Grand Slam

But I am willing to bet you folks will want to talk about Clint Eastwood all morning.

Rightly so, it was so damn funny.

4 more years

Obama/Biden 2012

@Bayllie

Did you read my post or did you want to go off on a rant? This is what I posted 2.149

Now, up until yesterday I have never heard any journalist refer to a statement by a politician as "statement of belief". But lets take that at face value and agree it was not a "promise".

This is what you write at 2.158

Spin all you want, Alan but you still have not provided me with a video or even a link to Obama's quote that would confirm Ryan's lie:

I simply re-quote what you posted earlier, and there is a reference to Politifact that confirms your own post.

Alan, are you for government-run auto industry or something? You wanted the government to reopen the plant? I'm confused.

No, I am not. I am simply pointing out that a candidate for the Presidency, knowing that the plant was going to close (as you have pointed out in 2.158), stood up if front of the workforce and declared that with some government assistance this plant could stay open for another 100 years. If you were in that audience what would you take from that statement?

Let me put it this way. Mitt Romney goes to Janesville as the CEO of Bain Capital. He tell the workers under threat of closure that Bain is interested in buying three plants, in Michigan, Tennessee and Wisconsin. He then tells the workers at the Janesville plant,

"I know that General Motors received some bad news yesterday, and I know how hard your governor has fought to keep jobs in this plant. But I also know how much progress you've made -- how many hybrids and fuel-efficient vehicles you're churning out, And I believe that if Bain is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years."

However, before the transaction is complete, GM closes the plant and it remains closed to this day.

I know you would not consider this a broken promise by Romney, nor another example of how Bain ruins the lives of working people.

Good Lord preserve and keep us safe....I think I have to amend part of my statement above. I believe that Romney has a great respect and regard for women. I believe that he will encourage all of the citizens, (men, women, young people) to stand tall and work hard for the life each wishes to have in America. His faith and respect in women was a central theme of his speech and his admiration for women, I think largely due to the fact that he has had some pretty terrific, strong women who have risen to success on their own, to shape his regard.

Unfortunately, we seem to have some incredibly weak women in this country. Those who don't feel they are capable to live the life they wish under their own ambition. Those who have been told that they can only achieve if the scale is weighted in their favor, basically being give permission by men to have a "blue" job. I can only shake my head that there is a large segment of our Nations population that truly thing they must have "permission" and a "weighted scale" to compete in the big leagues. That is just pure sewage that is taught to the young women of this country.

How does any mother council her daughter that she can be anything she wants to be and then insists that some imaginary playing field must be leveled for her benefit. Shame on you my American sisters that you will actually tell your daughters that they don't have to work as hard as a man because our nation is geared to give them a few bonus points even if she, the female applicant, is lacking in skill or talent to any other applicant. What exactly do you expect to gain? The gains certainly aren't going to be a generation of strong women prepared to compete for jobs or to stand up and challenge themselves to grab that brass ring. You are teaching your daughters that someone will just hand them a "special" brass ring and all they have to do is whine, stomp their feet or place a call top the ACLU. How do you justify telling your daughters the successes they have in life are because someone else allowed them to have the success. Not that you raised them to embrace their own accomplishments.

No wonder we still have a corporate culture where women aren't breaking through as many glass ceilings as they should. If you come to a job under "special" circumstances then you certainly are not commanding the salary of someone who is willing and able to offer full service to that position. If you aren't giving a full effort to compete equally then you don't deserve the same pay.

If you wish to do a service to your daughters the first thing you need to teach them is self-reliance. You need to teach them to innovate and to stand on their own accomplishments 100% not only 90% with 10% being bonus points for estrogen.

I'm typically not a fan of Secretary of State Clinton but she was a stellar roll model of a strong and determined woman. I am actually saddened that she has not been allowed to fully engaged in the job she has been given and she has not been supported to stand as strong or and as tall as her predecessor. I am sure that has put more than a few chinks in her armor. She is being forced to live the role she touted for "others" and not being paid full respect in her capacity of Secretary of State. That has to kill her when she shouted "it takes a village" philosophy and now she is the one being spoon fed by her keepers.

I think of her daughter, Chelsea. I can only imagine the strength and character that it takes to be in the white house fish bowl, particularly with regard to the scandal of her father's administration. I can't imagine that Hillary trusted her own daughter to "the village" instead raising her to face hard realities in life and how to problem solve to do better and rise higher than her peers. Unfortunately, even Chelsea is at the mercy of the village and at the mercy of someone else giving her permission to succeed. I find it very sad and I hope beyond all hopes that when the new day comes and Romney is President that Chelsea will be allowed to follow her heart and her skills. Unfortunately, in a world where women feel they must have permission to be successful, that day will not come as long as women behave like second class citizens and instead of vibrant, intelligent and independent of others to succeed on their own.

I would like to challenge women on this forum with the like mind to DiDi....stand in front of a mirror yet behind your beautiful daughter and promise her that you will, without fail, prepare her to be stronger than you. Without fail, you will support her success in any avenue she chooses. Without fail you will acknowledge her accomplishments in life for what they are HER ACCOMPLISHMENTS, HER STRENGTHS, HER INITIATIVE. If the mothers of daughters can't make and keep this one promise to hold them up to be a superstar in their own right then you are doing your baby girls a great disservice. If you raise your daughter to expect "special" consideration then you have failed and sadly, much of America will fail also.

So my darling daughter will be home from school in 50 minutes. She already knows that I love her and she knows that my admiration for the wonderful girl she is will always outshine the sun and she knows that I will believe in her till my last breath. So I will make that promise and I will see her eyes shine a bit more and I will see her head raise a bit taller and her self-confidence will grow. I am raising my daughter to fully engage in life and in her own destiny. My daughter knows not to go looking for some fictitious entitlement that someone owes her rather she will level her own playing field her own way.

ToxicChemist

Hey Mr. "Distortion Factory" Watch the economic / unemployment numbers for the first few months after Romney is elected/sworn into office.

Is Romney going to make the USA 47th country out of 50 countries in job growth again? Or is he going to take credit for his 0.9% decrease in unemploymment even though it was directly linked to Mass' shrinking population (people moved to other states) during his tenure?

If his record is a failure, it's only because of the obstructionism of the Republicans.

One more time, Obama NEVER work with Republicans neither have intention to work with them, unless Republicans pass the Laws the way he wants, no compromise. Is my way or the highway, period.

Stop blaming Obama is a big boy and you must accept his lack of leadership. Many other Democrats including Clinton work with Republicans and balance the budget. Obama is the most devised , food fighters , dirty Chicago style politician.

Dirty Harry is now Dirtbag Harry, what a loser he turnout to be, he looked like he was in a daze !!!

Alan, NJ

@Bayllie

Did you read my post or did you want to go off on a rant? This is what I posted 2.149

Now, up until yesterday I have never heard any journalist refer to a statement by a politician as "statement of belief". But lets take that at face value and agree it was not a "promise".

but you still will not admit that Paul Ryan lied when he said that Obama PROMISED?