First Read Minute: What Mitt Romney has to do tonight

ahhh...look, act and sound human?

Queen Anns' humanizing of Willard is still not complete!

Latest data from the BLS:
Employed – age 65 and over
July 2012: 6,155,000
July 2008: 5,193,000
Net add: + 962,000

Employed – ages 16 to 64
July 2012: 144,580,000
July 2008: 144,731,000
Net loss: -151,000

Yep gang - O's recovery is gangbusters. And only 374K new unemployed this week.

Sorry libbies, this one over.

And can you imagine how terribly horrible poor old Joe B. feels right now?

Oh my!

It gets me, how the Republican theme at their convention is "we built that," meaning private enterprise built America, while our TV screens are filled with pictures of the new levies, built with taxpayer money, holding back the waters from downing New Orleans (again.) You couldn't ask for a better representation of government investment in infrastructure paying off.

Spanky - give it a rest. You're backing the wrong horse - as usual. You clearly don't give a damn about the country and it shows with your trying to sell the lowlife Romney to anyone.

Luckily, most of us are smart enough to vote for Obama - who'll win again in November. Maybe then the Republican party will come into the 21st century - though I seriously doubt it!

And, Joe Biden is feeling just fine! All he has to do is face a known liar!

Obama/Biden 2012

Ann Romney dissed Massachusetts by saying:

You may not agree with Mitt's positions on issues or his politics. Massachusetts is only 13% Republican, so it's not like that's a shock.

the residents of Mass gave your lying husband a job so now that's he's done using Mass, you don't care about Mass? Your flip flopping husband sucked at his job that's why his ratings are in the 30s.

Ann "You People" Romney is a stuck up b*tch - sorry but as a Mass resident, I find her comment insulting.

Watching Scott Walker double down on the Lyin' Ryan's plant closure was truly hysterical. And not to be outdone, Scott Walker then tripled down on the Lyin' Ryan lie, which was simply pathetic. Walker would have us believe that at conception, Obama immediately began a sinister scheme to shut the plan down one month before he assumed office some 40 odd years later.

Hey spanky, why don't you run those same figures from January 2009, you know, when President Obama first took office, to July 2012 ?

I think you would find that there has been a net INCREASE in employment of about 2,481,000

Aren't statistics fun ? Like Rasmussen reports, its easy to manipulate the numbers when you want the numbers to match your lie.

One lie the GOP won't be able to get around, they will lose this election simply because they are evil.

Spanky-

Latest data from the BLS:
Employed – age 65 and over
July 2012: 6,155,000
July 2008: 5,193,000
Net add: + 962,000

yeah, give credit to the 2008 financial meltdown during which many lost their retirement savings. Now the Republicans want to give grandma a Medicare Groupon Voucher that will not even keep pace with the policy increases....

chilled

Queen Anns' humanizing of Willard is still not complete!

he makes her laugh - that's all the ever says about RomBot

What doe Mitt have to do?, that is simple ... If Bush did it, blame it on Obama. That clown car has only one gear marked R.

ahhh...look, act and sound human?

Cue the music:

Dream, the impossible dream.

SO Sanity, when you say 'most' who do you mean?

O's polling is well below 50%.

So perhaps you need to tell us what 'most' means to you.

And not to be outdone, Scott Walker then tripled down on the Lyin' Ryan lie, which was simply pathetic

I was particularly *touched* by the weasal's tears...

Was he auditioning for Otis the Drunk's job when he retires? lol

Dang bubblegum!

dirp - it's so simple even a big dummy like me can figure it out:

in 2008 there were far more people employed than there are now.

Global meltdown, stimulus, three consecutive 'Recovery Summer' aside, numbers are numbers.

in 2008 there were far more people employed than there are now.

However, the terms 'recession' and 'recovery' deal with the rates of change, not the current number.

Anyone else notice how Scott Walker's eyes kept sinking back into his head more and more as he was repeatedly challenged on the closing of the Janesville plant? Or was that because his nose was growing?

And it was commented by the media that Walker got all emotional and teary-eyed over Ryan's speech. Wisconsinites hoped he was shedding a tear over WI losing more jobs last month than any other state - again, and the true fact that WI also had the highest increase in unemployment in the US last month.

Scooter, in WI - It's NOT Working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scott Walker?

Did you libbies mount a huge and successful campaign to recall that clown?

What happened?

Funny how you all love to point out how stupid the republicans are, and yet, here they are, a whomping and a stomping.

Janesville plant closed in 6/09. O was Pres, right?

Spanky why does Romney "take the fifth" on his tax returns, are you ever going to address this?

Will republicans ever address this.

Perhaps you are just being lawyerly, since I am sure they teach you to never ask your client a question in front of a jury, when you already know the answer to that question will be a disaster for him.

Now why would I vote for a man to hold the highest office in the land when he chooses to "take the fifth" on his own personal business.

Romney has hammered Romney, he makes it real easy for me not to even consider voting for him, can you tell why I should Spanky, can you make a case for him, or are you gonna "take the fifth" on Romney's "taking the fifth".

Janesville plant closed in 6/09. O was Pres, right?

States are in charge of power plants, with some exclusion to nuclear. Actually that comment is deceptive. States are in charge of giving permits to power companies to build their plants. Barring drastic circumstances, power companies make the decision to close a plant.

I was particularly *touched* by the weasal's tears...

In keeping up with the cheap shots being thrown around by the RWNJs, those tears were tears of joy in anticipation that at the end of the day, Ryan, for once, would finally be the top. Today, Walkers tears are because he realized even he was duped, once again, by Lyin' Ryan's lied.

Here is what Romney won't say tonight:

Hey those republican red states hit by the storm need help, I know they are against government intrusion into their lives, and I know they hate this president and how he wishes to make them stepchildren in his nanny state. They need to rally that spirit of self reliance and individual responsibility, you should not expect the government to take care of you. We need to starve the beast, you cannot continue to feast off the beast, you cannot expect the starving beast to rescue you. Where is this all this tax money coming from you will chew through, we are against taxes, ww should put a call in to the local corporations for help, you know corporations are damn good people. Call on me, Mitt Romney I will rally wall street and the private sector to your rescue I know how to get things done. Don't call on the lazy overpaid public sector workers who's wages and benefits we need to cut to risk their lives and bail you out. How we gonna give trillions in tax cuts to the wealthiest of the wealthy if we have to keep pouring tax money into Louisiana year in and year out. Call the Koch brothers they can spare a few billion, and I here they are awfully nice guys who are very concerned about your welfare. How can you live with yourself if you are reduced to turning to Obama and he federal government as your saviour.

Republicans spew that crap constantly for the last three and a half years, they will spew tons of it at their convention tonight as they beg for help from the government they treat with such disdain, but never fail to depend on themselves. There crap sounds great when they think they are talking about poor people in Chicago or anywhere else, but it is an entirely different tune when they themselves need help, and they always need plenty don't they, yes sir, they always do need plenty of federal dollars and support.

I hope they get the help they need, I hope they realize where it comes from, and just who pays for it. It will not come from the wealthiest 1%, it will not come from corporate America, it will come from the very people who work for the government they denigrate day in and day out, and it will be paid for Union men like me, and other workers who make just enough money to pay more than twice the tax rate Romney does.

Good luck and God bless, maybe someday you will figure out who your friends are, they are the ones to show up when you need help.

Anyone see the story that the Repubs are trying to dig up on Vito J. Lopez? How disgusting...

Pollster Estimate

• Obama 46.3%
• Romney 45.7%
• Undecided
• Other

Only .6 away and counting. The bounce is not even included. Spin it any way you like, this sounds to me like the Wisconsin affect with Scott Walker. And yes Obama was not president in 2008, but he PROMISED that they would not loose the Plant. Another broken PROMISED.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2012-general-election-romney-vs-obama#!mindate=2011-08-16

but he PROMISED that they would not loose the Plant. Another broken PROMISED.

Another incoherent thought from our resident expert on "nuevos socialistas".

Another broken PROMISED.

When did Obama promise a broken? Citation please!!

Xabre - you actually still READ Concern's posts? Gave that up long ago since they are incomprehensible!

Obama/Bidden 2012

Xabre - you actually still READ Concern's posts? Gave that up long ago since they are incomprehensible!

It's just way too much fun. RedDevPS made me smile.

Spanky-

dirp - it's so simple even a big dummy like me can figure it out:

in 2008 there were far more people employed than there are now.

Global meltdown, stimulus, three consecutive 'Recovery Summer' aside, numbers are numbers.

and next you will say that the 2,000,000 jobs lost in three months (Jan-March of 2009) were Obama's fault?

Even RomneyHood agrees that the 1st 6 months of ANY new president are not to be taken into consideration when crunching numbers.

Shout out to Thomas Roberts, NewsNation!

Thomas you looked stunned.....that Musser, GOP/TP guy, admitting that 'he doesn't read'!

Oops....Typical of the TeaPeople, none of them read, and if they do, their comprehension skills are limited!

Too Funny!

Concern Citizen-856329

Pollster Estimate

• Obama 46.3%
• Romney 45.7%
• Undecided
• Other

Only .6 away and counting.

And at some point McCain/Palin led Obama 46% to 44%...and Romney not only lost to McCain, he also lost to Palin for the VP pick.

It as good as it is going to get for Romney, republicans are only preaching to their own choir, they have yet to pick up any support in key demographics needed to win a general election. He has at least for the moment solidified his base, but even that will wain after the fervor of the convention wears off, and even if it don't the republican base cannot get him to 270 electoral votes. If the general electorate gets out and votes, he loses.

The democrats will also have their convention and the fact that it comes after the republican convention is a political advantage, then the debates, where Romney will be twisting in the wind trying to somehow sensibly reconcile his dual positions on everything, and the fact that he has to come up with some lame excuse of why he will not show tax his returns, it just confirms for people that this guy that they already felt was phony, is now shady to boot.

Granted, many republicans will hold their nose and vote for him out of their irrational hatred for Obama, but in the end there will not be enough of those people to get him the 270 electoral votes he needs to win.

The first Mormon ever to be nominated for president by one of the two major parties.

Well, Thanks, America - you are the greatest.

Obama/Biden 2012

in 2008 there were far more people employed than there are now.

However, the terms 'recession' and 'recovery' deal with the rates of change, not the current number.

And once you consider seasonal adjustments and normalize the datum across the regional sections of the country, as well as look at year-over-year trends from the Beige book, while taking into account that it is in fact a leap year, as well as considering the recent value of the Euro against the Yen, and project the weekly gains in employment estimates against the real monthly trends, you in fact can see that the Obama economy has made great gains, when compared the Roosevelt recession recovery from the years 1937 and 1938.

Plus Romney is a Mormon.

Yeah, that's about what you get from the Libs when they try to explain the failure of the Obama economy.

Spanky: I thought you were trying to compare the time President Obama started office to today.

Sorry, I forgot you just wanted to spew forth your talking point without needing facts to back it up.

Why didn't you choose July 2003 (same point in W's first term) or July 1979, same point in Reagan's first term... I mean if you want to prove a point, it really does not matter what date you use, so long as you choose one that proves your point, right ?

I looked at January 2009, when President Obama took office and compared the employment to the numbers you gave for July 2012 and I found out that some 2,481,000 more people were employed. I looked for facts about President Obama's time in office and whether employment has improved while he is in office. I did not know it was as good as I found out. See, I used a scientific method to discover truth.

Now I know that does not support your theme, but facts have rarely supported the Republican theme. And we all know that science has nothing to do with the Republican party, just ask Rep. Akin and Rep. Ryan.

he makes her laugh - that's all the ever says about RomBot

RomBot is a work in progress, ha ha!..

I wonder if he will tell any 'jokes' tonight. There are so many more groups that he can offend!

chilled

RomBot is a work in progress, ha ha!..

RomBot is work in progress but in reverse. If you actually look at the videos from 1994 when he was running against Ted Kennedy, he actually looked human. Today, he's Pinocchio except each time he lies, his nose is not growing.

Romney makes me laugh as well, but the difference is, that is why I am not voting for him.

So reading up on Janesville is pretty interesting but I have laugh at Politifact interpretation of the claim being 100% false.

"And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years. The question is not whether a clean energy economy is in our future, it's where it will thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States of America; right here in Wisconsin; and that's the future I'll fight for as your president."

That's a statement of belief that, with government help, the Janesville plant could remain open -- but not a promise to keep it open.

So a candidate for the Presidency, while at the plant, states that "if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years." , but this cannot be construed as a promise but as a statement of belief. I have never heard a candidate make a statement of belief on the campaign trail. It seems if you have to be a lawyer to understand when a candidate is making a campaign promise or simply a statement of belief.

But the article reported that Obama, who later provided an $80 billion auto bailout, had pledged to help keep the Janesville plant and others like it "viable." That's not quite the same thing as pledging keep the Janesville plant open.

So again we need some clarification as to the difference between viable and open, and note that he was at the plant and mentioned it by name. Apparently, even though the President had $80B to bail out the auto companies, Janesville was already viable, because it didn't get any money, and if the President tells you your plant will be viable next year, that does not mean it will still be open.

I have to say for the genius orator this President is, he has a real problem with the English language and the way sentences are constructed.

- you didn't build that referring to bridges and road

- the difference between viable and open

- "the Janesville plant and others like it" didn't actually mean the Janesville plant specifically

Forrest Grump 2.0

Romney makes me laugh as well

I can't even say he makes me laugh. Give me the creeps is more like it. Maybe because I take it personally; Massachusetts sees Romney as a user and betrayer.

And as boston.com decribes it: He shed his Bay State political garments with the guilt-free ease of a practiced stripper.

And once you consider seasonal adjustments and normalize the datum across the regional sections of the country, as well as look at year-over-year trends from the Beige book, while taking into account that it is in fact a leap year, as well as considering the recent value of the Euro against the Yen, and project the weekly gains in employment estimates against the real monthly trends, you in fact can see that the Obama economy has made great gains, when compared the Roosevelt recession recovery from the years 1937 and 1938.

Is that some sort of analogy on how a rate of change is too complicated for you? -

And as boston.com decribes it: He shed his Bay State political garments with the guilt-free ease of a practiced stripper.

Like it bayllie......

Just like he has tried to shed everything about his past business life!...Guilt-free, except for the trail of destruction that directly leads back to him!

Alan NJ: I have to say for the genius orator this President is, he has a real problem with the English language and the way sentences are constructed.

The linguistic gymnastics the Democrats have to go through to defend what Obama has stated in the past are getting to be up to Olympic level standards. The Liberals must redefine the very meaning of the words in our language to have Obama's past statements square with the current results of his actions and his current statements. To listen to them go through the choreography and verbal gyrations in their descriptions of "Obama speak" is like listening to the Olympic announcers describe the gymnastic routines of the Olympians.

In addition to that, the Liberals are now going through the list of what they call "code words" that in fact are racist terms to describe Obama. Two of the new ones are "Chicago" (where he is from) and "golf" ( what he does a lot of). Those words are now racist, at least when used in the context of describing Obama. What it really means is they, Team Obama, don't want to talk about such things, and will behave like Joe McCarthy did if you do.

It's an amazing thing to observe.

Hey those republican red states hit by the storm need help

Forrest,

Have you noticed not a one of these not ready for prime time players have said ONE word about Hurricane Isaac or those who were affected?

Meanwhile, the GNOP gubner's already have their gimme gimme hands out to the Fed's....

"Yeah, that's about what you get from the Libs when they try to explain the failure of the Obama economy."

Jas1, I lost $480,000 by the end of Bush's term, gained it all back and then some since, at my age, I will start the most lucrative job I have ever had in my life next week. There is a very simple reason I cannot explain the failure of Obama's economy, and the simple fact is that it has not failed me all. I have done better than I could have imagined when I think back to about Nov. 2008. I have to credit Obama for that, he certainly did not get as much as a smidgen of help from republicans in Congress, and that is in no small way one of the reasons Romney will lose this election, they were scared to death to put any wind in Obama's sails, and in the process denied their candidate for president no wind at his back. I feel bad for those who voted democrat, and may still be struggling, and even those who were duped by the republicans promise of jobs, jobs, jobs, however I will not feel sorry for them if they vote republican again, but the honest truth is the Obama economy is kicking tail for me.

The linguistic gymnastics the Democrats have to go through to defend what Obama has stated in the past are getting to be up to Olympic level standards.

That would mean the aforementioned gymnastics of your deflections must have already earned you a bronze medal.

Well Bayllie it is not a laugh because he is funny or witty or personable, it is a pitiful laugh of disdain, the laugh of I have no respect for a phony who claims to be the upstanding man of business but surely cannot reveal his personal business, the man who would have the answer to restructuring the nations taxes but cannot reveal his taxes to the nation. It's kind of like the same type of laugh when you watch those shows about stupid criminals, like you said they are creepy, but at a certain point it gets so creepy, it gets kind of funny.

Jas1, I lost $480,000 by the end of Bush's term, gained it all back and then some since, at my age, I will start the most lucrative job I have ever had in my life next week.

But what about others? What about the high unemployment rate FG? That mean anything to you? Low GDP rate? That register anywhere for you? How about that $16 trillion in debt that someone will have to pay? You ready to give up some of your IRA to square that little problem? How about all of it? That would be the compassionate thing to do, correct? Compassion is a funny thing. It's all nice and good when it costs others to perform it, but not so great when it costs you.

Well FG, I guess we can all be just so very happy for you. But as you can see FG, others aren't as fortunate. Now in an "It's all about me" paradigm, it looks like you're doing the right thing and giving the proper credit where credit is due - The government built it for you.

No they can't say much about hurricane Isaac Feisty, because for all the reasons I mentioned above, it blows the big obvious hole in their phony notions of themselves.

The government built it for you.

Not only can JoAnnaSmith1 not seemingly comprehend rates, she seems to have issues dealing with 'gray areas'. It either is or it isn't with her. Apparently you either "built it" yourself, or someone else did for you. There's no such thing as assistance along the way.

FG: There is a very simple reason I cannot explain the failure of Obama's economy, and the simple fact is that it has not failed me all. I have done better than I could have imagined when I think back to about Nov. 2008. I have to credit Obama for that, he certainly did not get as much as a smidgen of help from republicans in Congress,

Clarification: Obama built it for FG. His words. No 'gray area'.

Well JAS1, I never said it was all about me I said I can't explain a supposedly failed economy that has not failed me whatsoever, but ok if the democrat Obama's government built for me, then the other side of that coin is the republican Bush's government nearly destroyed it for me. The damage was done by 2008, there are more people working now, we went from losing 500,000 jobs a month, to gaining about 100,000 a month, when you go from a negative 500,000 to a positive 100,000 that is a 600% improvement. Why do you never hold GW Bush and republicans responsible for their portion of the debt. Obama had to put two unfunded wars on his account because Bush failed to pick up his own tab, why do you never hold the Republican house responsible, they legislate not the president, they authorize spending not the president, what have they done for all the people out of work you feel so sorry for, can you name anything they have done to the benefit of those people. No it is all Obama's fault all day, every day, with you, you just woke up in 2012 and the whole mess is his and his alone, he is singularly responsible for all your woes.

If a man had cancer, tuberculosis, and hepatitis, and then was hit by a bus, then got up staggered across the street stubbed his toe on the curb and fell over dead, you would claim he died of a stubbed toe!

JAS1 "Clarification: Obama built it for FG. His words. No 'gray area'."

Ha JAS1 you started the discussion by way of:

"Yeah, that's about what you get from the Libs when they try to explain the failure of the Obama economy."

Those were your words, you described it as Obama's economy, you talk about linguistics, and your all tangled up in your own. It's an amazing thing to observe. Tee Hee, you tickle me.

FG: Why do you never hold GW Bush and republicans responsible for their portion of the debt.

Please. GW was no friend of conservatives. He is held responsible for his failures. What is striking is that Obama isn't held responsible for his. Check out the responses to Obama 'not being responsible for as prices' when in fact he blamed Bush for the very same. Odd, isn't it?

[Leftwing talking points omitted to save a few electrons]

why do you never hold the Republican house r

I do. They've done an awful job these past two years. But yet, the Libs won't be critical of Pelosi and the Dems for running up $5 trillion of debt from 2006-2010. Odd again, isn't it?

Again FG, you want to give credit to Team Obama for your good fortune, have at it. Others have not been so fortunate in Obama's economic climate, just say'n. Anyone that depends so heavily on a government, their political party, or God forbid, one man, will get what they deserve.

Ha JAS1 you started the discussion by way of: "Yeah, that's about what you get from the Libs when they try to explain the failure of the Obama economy."

You're not that stupid FG, but you appear to be on the right path.

Ha your are correct I am not that stupid, you start by calling it "Obama's economy", then I say I'm doing fine and you accuse me of giving credit for my success to "team Obama" again your words not mine. You never started by saying the economy, it was "Obama's economy" now you have changed that to "Obama's economic climate", however you wish to credit Obama is ok with me, but it is still your description not mine.

"Anyone that depends so heavily on a government, their political party, or God forbid, one man, will get what they deserve."

BTW I have never depended on the government for anything other than what public services they provide by way of my tax money, you know roads, bridges, public library, law enforcement, ect. I have never been employed by any government, nor have I ever depended or been employed by a political party, and as much as I think it would be pretty cool I never used Barrack Obama as a reference on my resume.

Ladies, and Gentlemen, I introduce you to another August rereg:

Hedley Lamar69

don't you people have any balls to post under ONE name???

FG: BTW I have never depended on the government for anything other than what public services they provide by way of my tax money,

But you have your nose firmly up Obama's back side giving him credit Obama for your IRA account. Odd that you didn't credit the businesses for reclaiming their market share and building up your portfolio, or were you all in on GM?

It is Obama's economy FG. You can play semantics all you want, but by running the federal government he sets the economic climate with his spending, borrowing, policies, and regulations. And it may work well for you, but for most it does not. Please deny if you think that is not the case.

You're a good liberal FG. You follow nicely. Keep it up.

It's working well for many JAS1, it was not working for anybody under Bush, the markets were destroyed under Bush, the loss of wealth was staggering, the job losses, the home equity losses they were horrendous, under a republican president, the market is more than double now, jobs are coming back, and home prices are creeping up. Those are facts and Bush was the president when it went to hell and Obama is the president as all improves so as you say if the president sets the climate then the fact is the stock market which is more than double where it was in Nov.2008 and is the life blood of our capitalist system, the housing market, and the job market prefer the Obama climate much better than the republican climate in which all were nearly destroyed. So which is JAS1 you say above that i have my nose up the presidents backside because I give him credit, then in the next sentence you say Obama must take responsibility because he sets the climate. I get it JAS 1 you want him to take credit for the bad, but he must not get any credit for the good, perhaps you can play that game with some republicans on this blog, but as you say he must take responsibility for what happens on his watch, and things have improved vastly. Yes I am a good liberal, because I follow the facts nicely, don't I, and the fact is all three indexes are more than double what they were in Nov 2008, the job loss has reversed and now we are adding some and home values are creeping up, all economic improvements from what was handed over to Obama. Not bad for a guy that republicans want to pretend has such an adverse effect on business, but the fact of the matter is that the market the indicator of the strength of business indicates he has an effect that is twice as good as the last guy. I will tell how you know when somebody is bad for the economy, it's when you lose half your wealth, when your wealth doubles that's how you know this guy is good for the economy. It's a very simple matter of addition or subtraction, under the republican wealth was subtracted from people, and now after Obama took over wealth has been added. It's really pretty easy Jas1, see what you want is the guy that can add to your wealth not the guys that subtract from your wealth, that is kind of key to having a good economy.

Quit?

don't worry Feisty, watching Romney lose will be that much more rewarding

Gawd, Feisty? What the hell is that. Aren't you an atheist? You aren't tolerant, like liberals claim to be. You must be that bitch your hubby despises. Broken things are not good, huh, girly? You're certainly a broken down old hateful hag. The rest of the scared @!$%#less lefties may spew away. lol

Why shoot old gal - Mitt is wooden, a dog abuser and a felon.

And yet He is winning.

Really does say something about O, right?

Spanky - no Mitt is NOT winning - and he won't in November! He should be getting a HUGE bump because of the convention yet he isn't. Pretty much says it all!

Obama/Biden 2012

Sure Sanity - you keep telling yourself that.

Say, perhaps you could point out a poll that is evenly split, or has a republican sample of plus 6?

Oh and Sanity - the convention is not over. Maybe you should wait till it is to look for a bump?

Naa, where's the fun in that, right?

See, I was thinking that O should have a HUGE lead, given who he's running against. :)

Why shoot old gal - Mitt is wooden, a dog abuser and a felon.

It tells us the GOP/TP is amoral, lacking ethics, along with a host of other psychotic issues. The only thing we can say for sure is the GOP/TP loves being lied to, as evidenced by their poster boy, Lyin' Ryan.

SUre we do Red Dev.

But then again it sure looks like that little plant was opened until June '09.

So who was the Pres in June '09?

Spanky - after the DNC convention President Obama will have a commanding lead - wait and see. For now, Romney's not doing too well, even with Ryan lying every chance he gets.

Looks like some Republicans are getting tired of the lies, too!

Obama/Biden 2012

You're certainly a broken down old hateful hag. The rest of the scared @!$%#less lefties may spew away

Ok Kenva - I'll play. You really ought to ease up, grab that eggplant sized butt plug by the base and yank it out, that is, if that tightly wound sphincter of yours will let it go.

Even Scott Walker acknowledged last night that the plant was closed while Bush 43 was President.

SUre they will Sanity.

But then again you sere so very convinced Walker was going to be recalled.

And if Mitt's 'not doing well' and yet is statistically ties [in dem skewed polls] then what's O doing?

Forget that - what's Biden doing?

Spanky-

And if Mitt's 'not doing well' and yet is statistically ties [in dem skewed polls] then what's O doing?

I will say it again: at some point McCain did better than Obama. McCain did better than Obama after he picked Palin and until she started opening her mouth. So tell me, what is Romney doing that his numbers are flat even after he picked Ryan?There should have been at least a small bumb in his numbers...yet - nothing.

Fox News isn't a news source. It's classified as entertainment.

CNN debunked that GM plant closing as the truth...

Xabre

Fox News isn't a news source. It's classified as entertainment.

Oh, and NBC is and CNN also, so why do you folks us Wikipedia?

You FR libs better take your medicine. It's going to worse for your Broken Promises in Chief.

What a week for the non FR LIBs. Don't feel so bad, maybe next week it will be yopur turn. As Beisty always says "lets get out the popcorn" and dont forget the toys.

Oh, and NBC is and CNN also, so why do you folks us Wikipedia?

You FR libs better take your medicine. It's going to worse for your Broken Promises in Chief.

What a week for the non FR LIBs. Don't feel so bad, maybe next week it will be yopur turn. As Beisty always says "lets get out the popcorn" and dont forget the toys.

Have you learned to actually speak Spanish yet? After all, it is your 'first language'.

Xabre - I believe Concern's first and main language is one she made up at oh say 6 months. Still sounds like a 6 month old!

Obama/Biden 2012

Xabre, InsaneSanitation, bayllie, newdogwalking. LOL Sorry.

I can help but laugh at you girls and boys. I hope you are all doing your homework.

You know, at the end of the day. If President Obama wins we will have to see what happens in the next 4 years, If Romney wins, then you will have to see what happens in the next 4 years.

Did you guys go to see 2016 yet? I found it to me a bit melodramatic for my taste, however I live in a heavily populated Jewish neighborhood and they were furius and not liking Obama's past and present too much.

Girls drop me another line when you get a chance. lol

Golly Amy, you should totally be a political consultant.

But tell us - what did Obama mean when he said he was but a blank slate for people to project upon?

Was that being himself?

YOu do got those coals all fired up and hot, right?

I think Mr. Romney has to be himself, as there is no other way that you can connect with people enough to earn their vote. From what i've seen and read, Mr. Romney is a good husband and father. He's made the most of his opportunities, and i don't envy the success he's had. i congratulate him for it.

However, there has not been one thing he's said or done that made me think he is the right person to lead this country forward into prosperity unforetold. I think Mr. Romney's largest problems in this election are the same issues that ultimately foiled Sen. McCain's campaign in '08: Those values he truly holds in his heart he had to abandon in order to secure the nomination for his party. He would be able to take the stage tonight and speak from the heart about his beliefs and vision much more effectively had he not been forced to flip flop like a beached whale just to get the support of the republican base.

All those changes in his 'core values' have to make it hard on the guy to be himself when he knows the instant he isn't 'staunchly conservative', or 'unequivocally pro-life', or 'absolutely opposed to Obamacare', his base will flee from him like passengers on the titanic. That kind of pressure to be who you aren't has to play games with your mind, and make it next to impossible to be yourself...

Yo - Noid - how about them gas prices?

Yeah, you are probably right, it's all about what Mitt needs to do, not about the atrocious Obama economy.

Sure it is.

Or is it your contention that O is inspiring to you? Is it his grasp on the economy? His ability to fulfill all those promises?

Bang up job. And just wait, new economic numbers coming out all the time.

Spankers,

The headline above seemed to imply a question..."What must Romney do tonight?"

I merely gave an answer. Can you do the same?

Spanky - intelligent people (that leaves you out) know the President is not in charge of gas prices. See, we also know the oil rigs in the gulf have temporarily shut down because of Isaac - you can read, can't you?

Try understanding. Oh wait - it's way too late for you to understand anything!

Obama/Biden 2012

Spanky, want to get gas prices under $2/gallon again? Elect Romney and tank the global economy. It worked for W in lowering gas prices.

Of course it does Sanity, cause I'm a conservative and therefore I must lack intelligence.

But then again, even in spite of my intelligence I see that gas prices have been going up for a long time, and well before the hurricane was an issue. SO again dear, just be patient and wait - gas prices will go up even more in the next few weeks.

Niod - Mitt doesn't need to do anything. Basic speech, no major mistakes. Ryan crushed it. For many this was the first sustained criticism of O and his failures they have heard.

Hell - I was watching the clown show that is MSNBC. They understood. Fineman was beside himself.

Oh and I love that Golf = Tiger, and Chicago = blacks, so pretty much everything is racist.

Yep, they know they are going down.

I see that gas prices have been going up for a long time, and well before the hurricane was an issue.

That's called global demand, which has increased due to the rapid industrialization of India, Brazil, and depending how far back you want to go, China.

Spanky - again, the President DOESN'T control gas prices!!! How many times does it take telling you this before your little brain comprehends?????

Oh I forgot - you'll never understand!

Obama/Biden 2012

Funny Sanity, cause there is this Obama commercial out there from '08 where Obama looked directly into the camera and blamed Bush for high gas prices.

So I guess Obama disagrees with you.

OR does O have a 'little brain' too?

Thanks for the laugh Sanity. Again. :)

Oh and perhaps you ought to so advise Pelosi and all the other libbies who blamed Bush for so long about gas prices.

Why golly, it's almost like you have no memory.

C'mon folks...wake up and smell the coffee.......Pres Obama holds a very responsible position....whatever goes wrong is his fault......gas price...his fault....plant closure before he took office...his fault....

Got Bin Laden....everybody else but Obama did it..

Pulled the US economy of the ditch...everybody else did it...

Jobs increasing....not due to Obama...

GNOP can't stand facts. THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH@!

C'mon Mythe,,,show us the 1040's!!What ARE YOU hiding!?

But But But But Spanky it's the gubments fault gas prices are going up now isn't it. What say we remove those special tax breaks and let "the market decide." And while were at it let's gut the FDA and let drug companies run more ads on the TV and tout all them phoney vitamin cures...Oh and while were at it let's blame those damned unions and their "lazy" workers in the manufacturing sector. You know about 7% of the work private workforce. See...I can deflect and reframe like you.

Niod - Mitt doesn't need to do anything. Basic speech, no major mistakes. Ryan crushed it. For many this was the first sustained criticism of O and his failures they have heard.

Damn...it's a knee-jerk reaction for you isn't it? You just can't help but swing back around to criticism.

Basic speech? No major mistakes? That won't cut it...not at this level at the Convention.

Yo - Noid - how about them gas prices?

My Gawd, have you seen the price of baking soda lately? Why hasn't the gawd damned socialist/marxist president regulated the price of baking soda. How in the hell am I suppose to bake my Welsh-Cakes when I can barely afford backing soda at $1.49 per box (or more precisely $0.003 cents per teaspoon). I can't very well revert to Bisquick - it costs a gawd damned $2.49 a box.

I think I may need to vote for the Romney/Lyin' Ryan ticket. They promise to end Medicare which will cut the price of baking soda. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Spanky - again, the President DOESN'T control gas prices!!!

Barry disagrees. So did Hillary, Nancy, Harry, Debbie&Debbie, Rahm, Barbara, John, Robert and Chris. All prominent Democrats, correct? Could all of them be wrong?

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQb_4hXLx2Q

If the president doesn't control the prices, why then did Senator Obama campaign on that topic? He could just as easily have said "The White House doesn't control gas prices." but instead he called it a looming crisis.

"For the well-off in this country, high gas prices are mostly an annoyance, but to most Americans they're a huge problem bordering on a crisis." Obama says in one notable video from April 25, 2008, which shows the future president speaking behind a podium at a gas station in Indianapolis.

Imagine that, a politician lying. Stop the presses!!! Story of the year!!

I was disappointed that mud slinging was the topic for Ryan's speach. I wouldn't have thought that he would have to stoop that low. He seems like a likeable / smart guy, he should just run with that.

Dragon-1573721

Repubs do not want Romney....they just want President Obama gone....so they will vote for ABO (anybody but Obama)

QFT.

Sad when the polarization of the electorate reaches a point where people actively vote against a candidate, not for a candidate...

yeah, but how did Romney fix those failing businesses? By outsourcing jobs...which probably explains why he wants to outsouce Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, to the states, knowing full well that that will ultimately spell their endings...which has always been the republican plan for decades as part of their starve the beast programme.

Or Mitt Romney could just be the only politician in this election willing to make the hard choices to fix those entitlements before they bankrupt the country....

he never "Turned around" anything! He raided and offhshored jobs (and the profit he made raiding). That's what have to look forward to under a Romney administration.

score keeper, do your own research on the companies Bain Capital acquired and turned around. I'd like to see a politician fix our government instead of blame someone else...

I'd rather watch Football than the wanna be liars in chief...

GNOP can't stand facts. THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH@!

C;mon Mythe,,,,put on your girlie man pants and show us the 1040's! What ARE YOU hiding!?

Later tonight, Washington State plays BYU.

Noid's Helpful Gambling Tip Of The Day - "Bet on the Cougars!"

From Newsmax

"President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are in a dead heat in most national polls, but a new survey finds voters by 20 points think Obama will return to the White House for another four years.

The Rasmussen Reports poll found 55 percent of likely U.S. voters said they believe Obama will be re-elected in November, compared to 33 percent who think Romney will win. Another 13 percent were unsure who would triumph.

When it came to which candidate voters actually want to win, 46 percent were for Obama while 45 percent opted for the Republican nominee. Five percent said they were undecided, and 4 percent said they wanted another candidate.

Rasmussen’s poll of 11 key swing states, which Obama won in 2008 but could go either way this time, show the president had a 50 percent approval rating.

The swing states are Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin.

The presidential survey of 1,000 likely voters was conducted Aug. 26-27 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points."

Yes...the racism and sexism is OBVIOUS.

...and the folks at FOX News aired ALL of the speeches of Ted Cruz, Mia Love, Brian Sandoval, Nikki Haley and Lucé Vela Fortuño, yes?

Hedley, you are aware that, with the exception of Artur Davis, MSNBC did not air anything that FOX News didn't air, yes?

Mia Love: MSNBC was in commercial. FOX News went to Shepard Smith in New Orleans for Hurricane Isaac.

Brian Sandoval: MSNBC had coverage of Hurricane Isaac. FOX News went to Sean Hannity interviewing Eric Cantor.

Ted Cruz: MSNBC had panel discussion. FOX News was in commercial and then had an interview with Scott Walker.

Artur Davis: MSNBC had panel discussion. FOX News aired the speech.

Nikki Haley: Both networks aired the speech.

Lucé Vela Fortuño: MSNBC had panel discussion. FOX News cut to Bret Baier and Megyn Kelly for discussion.

Wow, for a party that loves to boast "tough guys" like Clint Eastwood and Chuck Norris, y'all do just love playing the victim, now, don't you?