Romney hits Obama on looming defense cuts

INDIANAPOLIS -- The day before he formally accepts the Republican Party's presidential nomination, Mitt Romney today addressed the American Legion's conference here, slamming President Obama on the looming defense-spending cuts and announcing a new policy to benefit veterans.

"We are now just months away from an arbitrary, across-the-board budget reduction that would weaken the military," Romney said. "President Obama’s own Secretary of Defense has warned that these reductions would be 'devastating.' And he is right."  

"The devastation will be felt here at home, where up to 1.5 million jobs could be lost. GDP growth could fall significantly. These cuts will place further stress on an already stretched VA system." 

The upcoming automatic defense cuts (as well as cuts to domestic programs) were part of the Budget Control Act of 2011 that Congress passed and the president signed into law. Under the legislation, if Washington leaders were unable to settle on a comprehensive bipartisan deficit-reduction solution, then those automatic cuts would go into effect.  

Romney's running mate, Paul Ryan, voted for the Budget Control Act. 

The Obama campaign fired back at Romney. "Lost in his speech was the fact that the only thing standing in the way of preventing the automatic defense cuts he decried is his refusal to ask for another dime from millionaires and billionaires. If Mitt Romney were truly serious about helping veterans, he’d tell Congressman Ryan and his Republican allies in Congress to work with the president to achieve a balanced deficit reduction plan," Obama campaign spokeswoman Lis Smith said.

In his remarks to the American Legion conference, Romney also accused Obama of apologizing for America -- an allegation that non-partisan fact-checkers have consistently debunked. "The threat of the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction continues to be very real and, of course, we're still at war in Afghanistan. We still have uniformed men and women in conflict, risking their lives just as you once did... We salute them. We honor them. We respect and love them.

He continued, "All of this is happening around the world now.  And yet for the past four years President Obama has allowed our leadership to diminish.  In dealings with other nations he's given trust where not earned, insult where it's not deserved, and apology where it's not due." 

At the outset of his remarks, Romney discussed Hurricane Isaac, which landed in Louisiana as the GOP convention was under way last night. "And I appreciate this invitation to join you on dry land this afternoon," he said. "Our thoughts are, of course, with the people of the Gulf Coast states. Seven years ago today they were bracing for Hurricane Katrina; this afternoon they're enduring Isaac."

And he explained why he was in Indianapolis instead of Tampa, where the Republicans are holding their convention; Romney was in Tampa on Tuesday for his wife's primetime speech.

"I’ll be heading back to Florida later today, and you may wonder why I’m not down there right now, practicing and polishing my final draft of my speech. My answer’s this: When our nation called, you answered. And I consider any opportunity to address our nation’s veterans a privilege not to be missed."

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Are those the very same cuts his running mate Paul Ryan voted FOR?

THOSE cuts?

Sorry Willard, if there was ever a place we should start cutting it would be the bloated defense budget!

You & your new BFF the fiscal *cough cough* conservative might get away playing chicken-hawks for you base, while the rest of us see right through your crap!

  • 27 votes
#1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:52 PM EDT

Yes. And the lie about "apologizing for America" continues too. It's clear that Gov. Romney continues to pursue the "independent voter" that is incapable of fact checking or reading an entire article.

I do wonder what the purpose behind the debunked lies are? Does he even care? Is he even worried or does he assume that measures have been taken to make sure that he can't lose (think voter suppression through disenfranchisement, just like what was just done at the RNC convention).

  • 14 votes
#1.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

I believe 'hyprocrisy' begins with an R these days:

Romney and Ryan like to attack Democrats on the looming defense cuts, but the Sequester was passed to avert the debt-ceiling crisis CREATED BY G.O.P.

Was that they one where S & P downgraded us due to the uncertainty created by GOP?

Feisty,

Yes Paul Ryan voted for the Budget Control Act that contained those same defense cuts that Romney is lying about.

  • 19 votes
#1.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

Check out the difference between the sequester and Romney’s budget for DoD. See the graph:

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/1331082947153.png.CROP_.article568-large.png

  • 12 votes
#1.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

And folks, here we have it again: The GOP wants all the bases covered:

White Supremacists that said that the President is giving welfare checks to people without looking for a job.

The haters and abusers of women that keep on telling us that "rape"is a "legitimate thing"

The Senior Citizens that are on the brink of loosing what they WORKED FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIFE TO GIVE CUTS TO THE VERY RICH.

Big Oil, and the Koch Brothers, that will WIN BIG by turning this country into a cesspool with the removal of the EPA regulations, that Romney and Ryan DEVOTELY PROMISED TO evaporate.

Insurance Companies, that want to dismantle The health care plan of President Obama, to continue with the business of "medicine" Never mind the thousands that can't afford coverage, and die each year.

The removal of all barriers of help for Preventive screening for birth control, and other women health issues. Women are TRASH their rightful place is IN THE KITCHEN, AND SHOULD KEEP THEIR MOUTHS shout.

And now: The WAR lovers AND trigger happy RED NECKS that want to blow away innocent lives. Of course, as long as the lives are NOT THEIR FAMILY OR FRIENDS.

THE GOP REALLY DELIVERS!!!

  • 13 votes
#1.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:15 PM EDT

Okay, the US is outspending the rest of the world combined. When is not enough, enough? America, please stop this idiotic pandering and spending, we in the rest of the world get it, you can beat the @!$%# out of is.

  • 9 votes
#1.5 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

(FY2012)The top 5 countries’ military spending (as a % of all military spending) are: US 41.0%,
China 8.2%, France 3.6%, UK 3.6%, and Russia 4.1%.

The next 10 combined = 21.3%.

The rest of the world combined = 18.2%.

http://www.globalissues.org/article/75/world-military-spending

  • 12 votes
#1.6 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

The upcoming automatic defense cuts (as well as cuts to domestic programs) were part of the Budget Control Act of 2011 that Congress passed and the president signed into law. Under the legislation, if Washington leaders were unable to settle on a comprehensive bipartisan deficit-reduction solution, then those automatic cuts would go into effect.

Anyone want to guess what the odds are of Washington coming up with comprehensive bi-partisan solutions? The party of NO (GOP) would never allow it!

  • 12 votes
#1.7 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:31 PM EDT

nomoresameo

Well we have to defend against the ancient aircraft carrier that the Chinese just bought and they are going to turn into a Death Star Ship ... in ten years. America with its nuclear arsenal can melt the world.

  • 9 votes
#1.8 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

IRespond said: The haters and abusers of women that keep on telling us that "rape"is a "legitimate thing"

Is that the same thing that Bill Clinton did... legitimate rape? How about John Edwards.... I guess that wasn't rape... it was consensual. I guess Ted Kennedy didn't rape either.. he just committed murder.

  • 1 vote
#1.9 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:39 PM EDT

Romney and the Vietnam War

1965: Mitt Romney protests in favor of the Vietnam War and draft.

1965-1969: Applied for and received 4 (four) draft deferments. Apparently he was cycling around Spain handing out religious literature.

1994- Romney quote: "It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam, but nor did I take any actions to remove myself from the pool of young men who were eligible for the draft."

Yeah, he only "removed" himself from the United States.

2007- Romney quote: "I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there, and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam."

Huh...so Romney "longed to be in Vietnam"...apparently he didn't "long" hard enough....

...apparently...

  • 8 votes
#1.10 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

The Adelson/Romney/Norquistian 1%-ers want three things:

1. More military spending for the wars they are banking on.

2. More & more tax cuts for the rich, even as many of them pay zero/close to zero taxes.

3. Cut all and any safety nets to pay for said tax breaks.

3. And lest we forget - they want to DEREGULATE EVERYTHING.

  • 11 votes
#1.11 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

Hey Mickey ... nice to read your voice!

  • 7 votes
#1.12 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

Oh Brianb, did Monica get pregnant? Did she say no? Can't get preggies from a blowjob.

  • 6 votes
#1.13 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:46 PM EDT

One more, #5:

5) 1%-ers will RAISE taxes on the 99% to pay for their endless uber-tax breaks.

As now, RomneyRyan want an ADDITIONAL $5 Trillion tax cut for the top, which will RAISE taxes on the average rest of us by $2,200.

Plus, they want to extend the Bush tax cuts for another decade = another $5.4 Trillion.

Of course, while whining all the way to the Bank - about the U.S. deficit.

  • 8 votes
#1.14 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:48 PM EDT

bcwc - do you know how to read, or do you simply fake it?

  • 1 vote
#1.15 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:50 PM EDT

[Hey Mickey ... nice to read your voice!]

Yours too!

[Oh Brianb, did Monica get pregnant? Did she say no?]

Don't bother with Brian...he's too busy chasing down conspiracy theories, seeing the movie "2016", and perusing the want ads.

  • 8 votes
#1.16 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:50 PM EDT

Can't get preggies from a blowjob.

BB wouldn't know, he hasn't had a blowjob in years...

Explains his constant frustration... lol

Don't bother with Brian...he's too busy chasing down conspiracy theories, seeing the movie "2016", and perusing the want ads.

Judging from the amount of time he spends here dazzling us with his brilliance, it's a safe bet he's not actively looking for a job!

Much easier for him to suck off the gubment teat - shame he can't take care of his own kids!

What a misogynist, homophobic parasite...

  • 8 votes
#1.17 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

"And I appreciate this invitation to join you on dry land this afternoon," he said

Not funny Willard. Out of touch, out of sync, out of it. Period!

  • 9 votes
#1.18 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

Plus, they want to extend the Bush tax cuts for another decade = another $5.4 Trillion.

Obama tax cuts Stolen Valor backhouse. quit peddling that manure. he extended them he owns them.

So why hasnt Obama reduced the debt in his first term? Where is the laser focus on the economy? Stimulus was a bust but why? Whats up with Fast and Furious?

What a misogynist, homophobic parasite...

Seriously Feisty GFY. you are the pot and kettle

  • 1 vote
#1.19 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:55 PM EDT

PIZZA! PIZZA!

  • 4 votes
#1.20 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

Brianb-999431

bcwc - do you know how to read, or do you simply fake it?

Just reflecting on your comment friend. I read your stuff. You have a brain, stop hiding behind the crap that is front of it. You are better than this.

  • 6 votes
#1.21 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:58 PM EDT

[Seriously Feisty GFY]

Uh oh...

Caesar angry...

Caesar SMASH!!!!

PIZZA! PIZZA!

  • 4 votes
#1.22 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:01 PM EDT

Oh Mickey what a pity you dont understand. It's guys like you mickey.

Mickey with youre 'superior' intelligence care to discuss why hasnt Obama reduced the debt in his first term? Where is the laser focus on the economy? Stimulus was a bust but why? Whats up with Fast and Furious? Pick one or do you still want to be Fisty's attack chihuahua?

That moron fisty can't take care of a wet dream so I know it will never step up on the intellectual ladder. Lets see if you can break free and discuss? I won't hold my breath.

  • 1 vote
#1.23 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:01 PM EDT

Caesar Do-bore-us ... please continue, we have run out of paxil.

  • 4 votes
#1.24 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:03 PM EDT

[Oh Mickey what a pity you dont understand. It's guys like you mickey.]

Great comeback...looks like you got owned again...twice today that I know of...

Ouch...that's gotta hurt, man.

Here, let me soothe you:

PIZZA! PIZZA!

[Mickey with youre 'superior' intelligence care to discuss...]

Nahh...you've already had a rough night...besides, all your "talking point" this crap has been rehashed on this site since forever, just ask Spanky...now off to bed, mommy wants to tuck you in...

  • 6 votes
#1.25 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:05 PM EDT

I figured as much. Hey BCWC, ive shaved you already im surprised you feel so froggy. As for Mickey Mouse, eh well you know i would argue with it but unfortunately all it can say over and over is pizza pizza? Romans never ate pizza, what a dolt.

  • 1 vote
#1.26 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

Mickey, NY

Caesar might elevate himself to the status of a salad were it not for the lack of croutons.

Caesar, you couldn't shave a cat less than your self. How those four legs doing? Just riffing off your pal Spanky. Sucks to be twins, but then if you add in voodoo doll, gets a tad worse. You are of the old world, lie down.

  • 3 votes
#1.27 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:10 PM EDT

BCWC you have a friend now. dont be such a pussy...cat and answer my questions? you dont have to i know its hard, even Obamao won't talk about it. In the tradition of staying on topic lets talk Ann's costco card

  • 1 vote
#1.28 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:13 PM EDT

Poor poor Little "caesar"...little man loaded with talking points...

PIZZA! PIZZA!

  • 4 votes
#1.29 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:15 PM EDT

poor mickey lacking answers.

Libera Te ex infernis. Vote Romney

  • 1 vote
#1.30 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:19 PM EDT

Caegar, what question? Was it one of your butt buddy Spanky's rhetorical questions. Here are mine ... why do you like to lose? Ah what the hell, lets ask some more. Why do you hate single mothers? Why do you hate poor people? Why do you hate everything that is not you? Why do you hate yourself?

  • 3 votes
#1.31 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:25 PM EDT

Gotta love Mr. "I was in France" talking to veterans:

When our nation called, you answered. And I consider any opportunity to address our nation’s veterans a privilege not to be missed.

Just so long as I didn't have to serve in the military while thousands of poor, mainly black, citizens went to war.

How I hate, really hate, Chickenhawks. Its one thing if you were not drafted and did not serve. Its another thing if you actively worked to avoid being drafted.

President Obama never served, but he was never subject to a draft either and has actively tried to reduce the number of our soldiers at war.

If Paul Ryan wants to eliminate the cuts, then let him and his "no, no, no" taxes Republican buddies can discover a way to balance the budget without increasing revenues. Of course, if they do it the way they want, they will have to increase military spending. There will be no middle class left and the poor, women, disabled, students, GLBT, veterans, and minorities (those that don't just DIE as the GOP hopes) will be storming the gates in DC and there will be no USA left.

  • 4 votes
#1.32 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:33 PM EDT

why hasnt Obama reduced the debt in his first term?

Good Question from the party of no. President Obama had a plan to reduce the debt by 4 trillion dollars and he and Bonehead (speaker of the house) almost started it. But Bonehead change his mind because of pressure from his own party said NO! The number one thing since day one from the republican is to say no to anything that will help Americans people and help him.

  • 5 votes
#1.33 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:47 PM EDT

BCWC those are great questions but somehow i think not one of them has anything to do with righting the country. Now i know you think everything is peeches and cream, you know 8.3% unemployment (and I hate the poor?). But truly i am into self loathing, much like you mickey, feisty, newday, bev. Hell you'd think im liberal.

President Obama had a plan to reduce the debt by 4 trillion dollars

what was to stop him from 08-10? Boehner was insignificant jim. thats ok Obamao doesnt want to discuss it either. Obama kicked his own azz

    #1.34 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

    The upcoming automatic defense cuts...

    ...that were supported by Republican congressmen? Why are these losers compaining? The US spends nearly as much on its military spending as the rest of the world combined. Why would the right wing lunatic fringe whine about cuts to a program that has become America's largest single entitlement program? Isn't that what they had planned all along?

    • 5 votes
    #1.35 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:20 PM EDT

    Really? They should have a photo of Dubya under the debt clock.

    • 2 votes
    #1.36 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:06 AM EDT

    So, will America elect a candidate based on the content of his character or the color of his skin?

      #1.37 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

      If Republicans want cuts sooo bad. Lets oblige them by giving their jobs to Democrats in November!

      • 2 votes
      #1.38 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

      So, will America elect a candidate based on the content of his character or the color of his skin?

      Certainly, if Republicans manage to elect Romney they will get a guy no character at all.

        #1.39 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:51 PM EDT
        Reply

        Romney just keeps getting lower and lower. He repeats lie after lie. He has no honor and he respects no one which is precisely why we can't trust him and we need to see his tax returns.

        • 8 votes
        Reply#2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

        But Sueb1 completely and utterly trusts Obama. Obama doesn't lie, does he? Not a single lie has EVER fell from Obama's mouth... You'd trust him with your children... you'd probably have children with him... but I digress... Back to Obama never lying... He never said that if he were to get the stimulus that the unemployment rate wouldn't go above 8%... after suffering through 40 months of 8%+ unemployment...

        Funny Sue, you pick and choose your people based on lies... then I guess you really don't have any respect for Obama either, do you?

        • 1 vote
        #2.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

        President Obama extended unemployment to 99 weeks, I'm sure if he hadn't done that then the unemployment rate would have been well below 5%. But I'm sure those extended benifits helped a lots of people.

        I understand Romneyhood plans on cutting benifit down to 12 weeks then your off of it forever..

          #2.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:55 PM EDT
          USAF51Deleted

          Only way to fight facts is with insults.

          • 1 vote
          #2.4 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:36 AM EDT
          Reply

          Bang the drums of war--so our children and grandchildren of the 99% (the working people) can go off to fight for "their country" and make the "ultimate sacrifice" whilst the children and grandchildren of the uber-wealthy, elite, and privileged can stay home and exercise their patriotic duty to get their daddies and grand daddies elected to public office! Sounds like a ploy to reduce the surplus population...

          "We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

          • 9 votes
          Reply#3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:00 PM EDT

          I guess nurse, you don't count Afghanistan as a war theater, do you? Obama has had multiple chances of withdrawing our troops from that war... but you never count Obama as keeping that war going... we've lost 1369 troops there under Obama... but that's not banging the drums of war, is it? Why heavens no... It's Obama, the king of the universe.

          • 2 votes
          #3.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

          Can't find your numbers anywhere. I did search your exact words. I did find out that there was about 2000 troops lost since 2001. Wasn't it Bush that started it on 7 October 2001, the U.S. government launched military operations in Afghanistan

          • 2 votes
          #3.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:17 PM EDT

          • "My sons are all adults and they've made decisions about their careers and they've chosen not to serve in the military and active duty and I respect their decision in that regard. One of the ways my sons are showing support for our nation is helping me get elected because they think I'd be a great president." - Mitt Romney
          • 1 vote
          #3.3 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:53 AM EDT
          Reply

          "The devastation will be felt here at home, where up to 1.5 million jobs could be lost. GDP growth could fall significantly. These cuts will place further stress on an already stretched VA system."

          What - the GOP/TP claims over and over again the government doesn't create jobs. Just like they claim we are too damn broke to spend a dime on government. Well now, which is it?

          • 10 votes
          Reply#4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

          Which is it?, exactly!

          So Romney's solution is not to reduce spending on defense because GDP growth will fall.

          And he does not want to raise any new revenue but to give more tax breaks to the 1%.

          that leaves cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, and SS .

          This guy truly is the hand to hold the pen for Norquist's minions in the the Congress led by Paul Ryan

          • 4 votes
          #4.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

          Go ahead RedDev, blur the issue. After all, that's all you got. There's a huge difference in providing supply for the government and hiring government employees... but what the hey... if it fits your agenda, go ahead and use it anyway... it always sounds good. Defense is Constitutional... health care isn't.

          • 1 vote
          #4.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

          PROMOTE the general welfare, PROVIDE for the common Defense

          • 1 vote
          #4.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:06 PM EDT

          • "You sit down with your attorneys and tell you what you have to do, but obviously the president of the United States has to do what's in the best interest of the United States against a potential threat." - Mitt Romney -on whether he would consult Congress about invading Iran
          • 1 vote
          #4.4 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:55 AM EDT
          USAF51Deleted

          It wouldn't take any guts to invade Iran. It would take MASSIVE STUPIDITY to invade Iran you moron!

          • 3 votes
          #4.6 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:09 AM EDT
          Reply

          I just don't understand this methodology. It all reminds me of the last election. They say these things just to get the crowd in front of them cheering. Don't they realize that everyone else in the country is listening too? Haven't they ever heard of the news media, let alone the internet?

          • 8 votes
          Reply#5 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

          "I’ll be heading back to Florida later today, and you may wonder why I’m not down there right now, practicing and polishing my final draft of my speech. My answer’s this: When our nation called, you answered. And I consider any opportunity to address our nation’s veterans a privilege not to be missed."

          While I spent the Viet Nam war years hiding in France and my military eligbile 5 sons "served" by carrying my water for me. Putting your life on the line while serving in the military is something you people do!

          • 10 votes
          Reply#6 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

          VIETNAM

          Flip
          "I was not planning on signing up for the military. It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam." — Mitt Romney Quoted by the Boston Herald, 1994

          Flop
          "I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam." — Mitt Romney Quoted by the Boston Globe, 2007

          • 1 vote
          #6.1 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:04 AM EDT
          USAF51Deleted

          USAF51

          1. There was NO DRAFT and NO WAR and Barack Obama was NOT required to serve even though he DID sign up with the Selective Service when he was 18.

          2. I campaigned for and voted for Perot, NOT Clinton, you dipschMITT.

          3. Romney sought and received deferments and then ran off to France to AVOID serving his country.

          Oh, and by the way...

          I served in the United States Army, during the Vietnam Era, my final duty station was at The Pentagon, in the Defense Communications Agency, Room BE685.

          Furthermore:

          My father was career USAF, served in the Army Air Corps during WWII, fought in the Battle of the Bulge.

          My oldest son was US NAVY, Submariner.

          My youngest son and his wife are US MARINES.

          and

          My Grandfather was one of the first to transfer from The United States Lifesaving Service to the then new United States Coast Guard!

          DON'T CALL ME A HYPOCRITE YOU ASS!

          • 2 votes
          #6.3 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:03 AM EDT
          Reply

          Flip-Flop - Lets increase defense spending and cut the budget. Well, which is it Mitten's? I think he broke his Etch-a-Sketch......

          -

          O&Joe 2012

          • 11 votes
          Reply#7 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

          Let's see, Willard hid in France during Viet Nam and his five military aged sons also did not serve our country during wartime. I think the band that should introduce Willard tomorrow night should be none other than Pussy Riot!

          • 7 votes
          Reply#8 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

          Holy crap. The Romney etch-a-sketch is spinning out of control.

          Governor, have you forgotten that your VP choice voted FOR these cuts?

          Sheesh. How stupid do you think people are?

          • 5 votes
          Reply#9 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

          It's truly sad when a man that would be CIC and might have to make decisions that would involve the deaths of our military personnel thinks that it's appropriate to lie in front of veterans. Gov. Romney must think they are stupid.

          I hope our military personnel are taking full measure of what Gov. Romney thinks and how, by directly lying to our veterans and presuming it's ok, he dismisses the value and honor of military service.

          • 6 votes
          Reply#10 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

          • "Well, the question is kind of a non sequitur, if you will. And what I mean by that -- or a null set." - Mitt Romney -after being asked during a Republican debate whether is was a mistake to invade Iraq
          • 1 vote
          #10.1 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:57 AM EDT
          Reply

          Mitt was on a mission for his church. His 5 sons don't have to serve since it is a all voluntary force.

            Reply#11 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

            too bad the 58,000 who died in Vietnam did not think up some BS "mission" to do for their silly church!

            • 4 votes
            #11.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:50 PM EDT
            Reply

            "I’ll be heading back to Florida later today, and you may wonder why I’m not down there right now, practicing and polishing my final draft of my speech. My answer’s this: When our nation called, you answered. And I consider any opportunity to address our nation’s veterans a privilege not to be missed."

            And yet, when our nation called on you, you put your BoM tail between your legs and ran off to hid in France. Then you encouraged your sons to register as Contientious Objectors with the Selective Service. You consider it a "privilege" to address (talk down to) them, but considered it an inconvenience to serve with them? You sir, are a coward and should be embarrassed to even make eye contact with combat veterans.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#12 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

            JD what branch of service were you in again?

            • 1 vote
            #12.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:11 PM EDT
            Reply

            With today's technology we don't need to spend more on defence. We are way above all other nations when it comes to power. As the only super power still on the planet we could cut our defence in half and still whip anyone else. With the demise of the USSR we no longer need to have overkill in our military. The Pentagon has said they don't need the fancy new jets Congress let them have. They don't need them, don't want them and they are merely pork for some Congressman's district. President Eisehower warned us about butilding a relationship with the military-industrial complex. If anyone should know it was Ike. This extremist bunch now running the once grand old party make people like Lincoln, Ike or Teddy Roosevelt spin in their graves.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#13 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:37 PM EDT

            Mitt the Twit and Lyin' Ryan -- more like a "dicket" than a ticket.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#14 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:51 PM EDT

            Defense spending>>>>>>>Wealthcare

            • 2 votes
            #14.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:20 PM EDT

            • "We should double Guantanamo!" - Mitt Romney
            • 1 vote
            #14.2 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:58 AM EDT
            USAF51Deleted

            An unfulfilled pledge is NOT A LIE when you have the OBSTRUCTIONIST REPUBLICANS purposely blocking your plans for their own selfish purpose YOU MORON!

            • 3 votes
            #14.4 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:10 AM EDT
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            • If I have chicken eggs and you have corn we can barter with each other to exchange Resources.
            • Money or Currency is an exchange medium set up by a group of people or Government (Gov) that is collaboratively trusted by all parties to use for exchanging Resources.
            • A country without an abundance of Resources has no power to create an economy for anyone by itself. Resources are the backbone of any sustainable economy.
            • The ability to effectively tap into those Resources and utilize them to create jobs requires knowledge, education, innovation and technology.
            • Civilizations exist due to some degree of order and law and without it there is chaos and no possibility for a Gov to be established to provide and Regulate Order and Law for the benefit of humans that co-exist in the same location.
            • If there is no Gov, then by logical deduction we cannot have Civilization. If there is no Civilization and no form of agreeable Gov; I maintain it is impossible to achieve a sustainable economy for the masses.
            • Gov is given power and authority by people to Regulate and Implement Policies and Laws for the benefit of the people. It is the Gov’s job to:
              • Ensure Domestic Security and Safety
              • Ensure Domestic Economic Stability
              • Protect the Rights of its Citizens
              • Ensure its Citizens have Equal Opportunities
              • Promote Freedom, Democracy, Capitalism and Free Markets
            • If Resources are the backbone of any economy then whoever controls those Resources has power to establish, develop, create, maintain, grow, stimulate, or advance economic growth.
            • The Fifth Amendment to Constitution says “The Supreme Court has held that the federal gov and each state has the power of eminent domain—the power to take private property for "public use".
            • Right or wrong, we the people have given this power to the Gov. The US Gov as well is responsible for REGULATING the exchange of goods and services by whatever exchange medium agreed to and accepted by the people (US Dollar).
            • The inherent power of the Gov to use and control all Property (Resources) in this country nullifies the Gov’s obligation to a Debt of those Resources. How can the Gov have a Debt to that which they already have power to control, use or distribute at will? I maintain it is not possible.
            • I maintain the US Gov is a DISTRIBUTOR OF CURRENCY and by sheer power has the right to use whatever amount of CURRENCY it desires against those National Resources, without cost to the Gov. I maintain it is IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A DEBT TO THAT WHICH YOU CONTROL AND OWN.
            • From a National Security perspective; the US Gov does not compute Economic Stability based on Corp Stock, Corp Growth or Triple A Ratings; but instead bases economic stability on the Gov’s ability and power to control, maintain, and utilize its own domestic Resources to create jobs, industries and manufacture goods and services and based on the Gov's ability to control, use and negotiate for other countries Resources around the world in order to preserve its own Resources. Hence the most powerful military in the world and Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).
            • There was an economic crash in 1929. By 1939 the Federal Debt was at least twice the Gross National Product (GNP) and unemployment was higher than 25% (see http://investmentwatchblog.com/us-1929-great-depression-vs-2008-financial-housing-credit-crisis/). In 1941 the US entered World War II and rolled out of the Federal Reserve the equivalent of Trillions of more dollars (in today’s dollars) on top of the already existing debt, to pay for the war and building the Defense Highway System, the electrical grid, dams, bridges, educational institutions, etc. By the end of 1945 the unemployment rate had dropped to about 1% (see http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/tassava.WWII) and the economy was booming. After the War the US then rolled out of the Federal Reserve the equivalent of Trillions more dollars to pay for rebuilding Europe, Japan, etc. Then after that, the US began a surge of expanding the economies of the world by rolling Trillions more out of the Federal Reserve to build up the economies of the world and sending manufacturing jobs overseas to accomplish this Global Economic Expansion. This of course meant further De-Regulations on Corporations (Corps) to allow them the freedom to move manufacturing and jobs overseas. We created this Global Economy through utilization of our Federal Reserve (Rolling US Dollars out of it).
            • So what happened to all that Federal Debt? Did it ever get paid back to the Federal Reserve? NO it did NOT
            • Why Not? Because it did not matter after there was enough tax base from people being employed to cover the operational costs of the Gov (deficit). Once the deficit was removed the Federal Debt did not matter.
            • Other countries and financial institutions compute the economic viability of the US based on its abundance of Resources, its ability to utilize those Resources and its ability to control and negotiate for control and use of Resources around the world and not on Currency rolling out of the Federal Reserve.
            • What is Monopolization? Monopolization is where a Company controls most if not all of a product or service to the point where no other Company can compete for marketing or servicing that product or service.
            • Monopolization is what destroys COMPETITION in the market place and what destroys CAPITALISM. That is what has caused the disparity of wealth in this country and that is one of the main reasons the economy here in the US is suffering. It was not size of gov or Federal Debit that caused the economy to crash at the end of 2007. It was monopolization of the financial companies and mortgage companies that are still not broken up that caused it. We see where the Republican Party in the House of Representative has continuously blocked all efforts by the Obama Administration to break up these monopolistic "Too Big to Fail Corps". https://sites.google.com/site/economictruthyouneedtoknow/home
            • Monopolization is a bigger issue and problem than size of Gov. That is what a Corps does if they are not regulated properly. And they will of course if De-Regulated send jobs overseas if it is advantageous to do so. Why are the Republicans and Mitt Romney against breaking up these Monopolies? They are bought off by Corporations.
            • We see this push to convince us that the main problems with the economy has to do with too much gov (it's to big) and the Federal Debt is going to cause our economy to crash. We see this constantly being advocated as the main problems with the economy recovering. I think that is complete distortion of the truth, mis-leading and there are zero facts to back that up. It is fear mongering and propaganda and its intent is to get us to believe that we need to give more money to Corps, more power to influence Gov, tax them less and then Trust Corps to take care of us.
            • We see where the gov (Republican Controlled House of Representatives) has refused to appropriate annual funding over the last 2 years for teachers, firemen and police officers and other union type jobs that states have needed to keep these folks employed. There have been over a million teachers, police officers and firemen alone who have lost their jobs due to this. All in the name of trying to shrink the size of gov knowing the states do not have the money to keep these people employed.
            • This does not fix anything. These people get laid off and now they can't even pay taxes but have to go on welfare, unemployment, food stamps, etc and can't contribute anything back into the system in the form of taxes. Slowly reducing the size of gov is necessary but it should be done slowly by "transferring the jobs" to private industry or to states when/after they have enough tax base to support those people to keep them employed. Hence the primary focus should be on JOB CREATION not gutting the Gov and sending people into welfare which enables Companies to lower their wages because people are now more desperate for work.
            • Republican lawmakers advocate and are pushing to get rid of the Depart of Education and The EPA, etc., and such is planned by Mitt Romney. We have shown above the danger in this and how important these agencies are to National Security and stability of our economy.
            • We see where this country has massive amounts of resources to utilize to create jobs and put people back to work but nothing is being done. Why, because lawmakers (Republicans in the House of Representatives) say we can't because of this Federal Debt. They have blocked all efforts by the Obama Administration for Job Creation.
            • It is a fact that if you own a car outright, then you cannot have a debt against it. The Gov may track the so called Federal Debt but they do not acquire debt against national domestic resources. You have debt, I have debt, Corps has debt but the US Gov does not acquire debt against national resources. The US Gov is distributor of currency and they have the power and right to utilize that currency at will against any and all national resources.
            • The Federal Debt matters to Corps because it can devalue the dollar on the world market but look how great US Corps are doing despite the Federal Debt. Why? Because countries and Financial Institutions measure the US credit mainly on its abundance of resources (assets) and the Gov’s ability to utilize them with technology, innovation and education and our ability to acquire, control or negotiate for resources around the world at will. Hence again a large military. https://sites.google.com/site/economictruthyouneedtoknow/home
            • Reducing the military drastically in the name of Federal Debt is not good for the economy. What really matters is tapping into our resources to put people back to work so there is enough tax base to pay for operating the Fed Gov & State Govs.
            • To strengthen the economy the country should be investing further in DOD and not cutting military spending.
            • This notion that the problems stem from Federal Debt, Size of Gov and too many social programs is none sense. People have to go on social programs because they don't have a job. It is the Gov’s role to assist in the creation of jobs and then transfer those industries and jobs to the private sector if necessary. That is exactly what they did after WWII. When people lose their jobs the Gov has no choice but to provide some services for them. Otherwise the country would fall into a revolution.
            • We see the disparity of wealth in this country greater than ever before. We see fewer people and Corps controlling a larger percentage of wealth of this country and the middle class is shrinking, job wages are going down and jobs are being sent overseas at a faster rate than ever before. Why? Because of Deregulation. The Republican GOP and Mitt Romney are focused on further De-Regulations, Giving more money to Corps, Reducing the Size of Gov at the expense of jobs to enable Companies to lower wages further, sending more jobs overseas, and getting rid of social net programs to help the poor and the middle class. They want you to believe that Corps will hire more people in this country if we simply give them more power and freedom and don’t tax them and continue to allow them freedom to send jobs overseas. It really comes down to whom you believe should be making decisions for the masses. Corps or the Gov. President Obama understand a need for a balanced approach to the economic problems and the need to reduce Monopolization, increase competition and tap into the Resources for creating more jobs just like we did during WWII. Vote for Obama / Biden 2012.
            • Republican GOP and Mitt Romney’s addenda is to increase wealth for the wealthy 1% which will increase the disparity of wealth, pushing more people into poverty, Cutting taxes on the wealthy, increasing Monopolization which will reduce Competition in the Free Market System and reduce Capitalism, gutting the US Gov by getting rid of vital departments such as Department of Education, Environmental Protection Agency, etc, cutting off Student Loans, Take Away Women’s Health Care, Reduce Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security to Voucher Programs that will be played on the Stock Market, and Send more jobs Overseas; all in the name of a Federal Debt and Gov Size to give more power to Corps. Vote Obama/Biden 2012
            • 2 votes
            Reply#15 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:05 PM EDT

            Subject: Democrat National Committee Convention

            Theme; 4ward in the fog...

            Hey, for your ows info; On September 4wardth the 9am opening event is the stars an stripes flag desecration ceremony...

            There is a meal served off of the America banner buffet starting promptly following the observance,
            I believe you all will be happy that I clued you in on the excrement for all smorgasbord and all the donkey urine koolaid you can't lovingly slurp up off of the opulent sleeping bag punch bowl...

            Blue solo-cups only please, non complementary Big O & lil joe logos available for fity daulla$ hourly rental/donation gov't mandated charge consult ACA for details...

            There will be a ground floor opportunity In the Star field don't miss your chance to get in on the Feast of the Fecal non-competition. Contestants will be non graded and all participants will be dully rewarded 4ward with exactly the same type of golden-brown encrusted blue ribbon in celebration of utopic equality for all....
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            Also; side note sixteen trillion in debt

            commensurate charges apply indefinitely to children grand children and when applicable any descendants necessary to fund repayment in kind , henceforth, all terms subject to revision by czars an bureaucrats at sole discretion of Potus 44 aka Pharaoh BARAKHUSSEINOBAMA mmm mmm MMM ,!,

            vote R&R

              Reply#16 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:09 PM EDT

              So, it's all obama fault that congress couldn't even agree if the sky is blue. So, those house republicans had nothing to do with a common sense budget not getting passed, huh Willard? Is this guy for real? Does he think we are all stupid? I'm afraid the amswer to those questions are yes and yes.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#17 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:13 PM EDT

              It was smart of the Obama Administration to put up defense cuts as a working compromising point for the budget, since we were going to cut government defense contracts when winding down our two wars anyway. The White House named additional cuts up for compromise to put the pressure on the Republican Congress to hold on to the first named cuts.

                Reply#20 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:26 PM EDT

                Defense spending>>>>>>Wealthcare

                  Reply#21 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:18 PM EDT

                  My Dad use to tell me that war is good for jobs. True, but... Mitt, we are trying to end our foreign wars; of course there are going to be military budget cuts. Plus, borrowing money to help pay for our military is goofy. Let's start paying our own way in the world again. The Romney plan won't do that.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#22 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:02 AM EDT
                  USAF51Deleted

                  The Defense cuts are because Congress and the Super Committee couldn't reach a deal (what else is new) and the outcome of not reaching the dealing is these cuts. It is all a dog and pony show to show how each party stuck to their beliefs, then in the end at the last minute somehow a deal is reached. This is their normal operating procedure.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#25 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:10 AM EDT

                  Why do the Republicans call out Obama on Defense Cuts. Obama has made the USA more secure by pursuing a policy of decimating the Al Qaida leaders slowly and surely. More has been done by Obama than any other Republican for the defense of the U.S. so what the hell do these neo-cons want? They talk tough but enemies of the U.S. walked around securely chanting their rants against us. Obama shut them up with a bullet to their heads tell me now who is more capable??? Obama/Biden 2012

                    Reply#26 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:31 AM EDT

                    2007- Romney quote: "I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there, and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam

                    So, What was this great thing that the church sent him to do? I guess it must have been some more than defending freedom.

                    I guess i'll have to look it up. He would probly give me a different answer every day

                      Reply#27 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:01 AM EDT

                      Republican Diversity:

                      A black female CNN Camera Person was heckled at the Convention by two delegates who threw peanuts at her and told "This is what we feed our animals." The delegates were escorted out of the convention but the human damage was done. Things like these go to show you exactly what kind of mindsets make up the Republican Party. I am not black but I sure downright know they are racist to the bone. My vote is Obama/Biden 2012. We have a strong President but a gentle and thinking person one who analyses all his issues before making a decision. Would you trade our President for these Republicans who would get us into another war in the name of showing that America is Strong, so we can get a few more thousand of our young men and women to die for these high rollers who would never let their children go to war? Think about it hard where were we in 2008 downright dead in the hole by whom? The Republicans! They got us there. Where were the debt clocks from 2000 and 2004 the clock hands must have catapulted to the ground breaking the debt clock. But now these very same buzzards are telling you and me follow me I will lead you to the promised land! The voters that vote the Republicans need their heads examined as they are trying to bring back a failed agenda that was all their doing. Obama is strong he is intelligent and he has got us on the right path to recovery from ground zero he needs some time to fix the inherited disaster and it is happening even though ever so slowly but it is happening for sure. Instant fixes as promised by the Republicans also get us into instan troubles. So do not let these Republicans hijack your vote in the name of lies and deceit that is what they all stand for anyway?

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#28 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:08 AM EDT

                      Subject: Democrat National Committee Convention

                      Theme; 4ward in the fog...

                      Hey, for your ows info; On September 4wardth the 9am opening event is the stars an stripes flag desecration ceremony...

                      There is a meal served off of the America banner buffet starting promptly following the observance,
                      I believe you all will be happy that I clued you in on the excrement for all smorgasbord and all the donkey urine koolaid you can't lovingly slurp up off of the opulent sleeping bag punch bowl...

                      Blue solo-cups only please, non complementary Big O & lil joe logos available for fity daulla$ hourly rental/donation gov't mandated charge consult ACA for details...

                      There will be a ground floor opportunity In the Star field don't miss your chance to get in on the Feast of the Fecal non-competition. Contestants will be non graded and all participants will be dully rewarded 4ward with exactly the same type of golden-brown encrusted blue ribbon in celebration of utopic equality for all....
                      Please sign up online @

                      www.onager_ordure_starmunch@DNClies.com or @ WWW.lets_beliberal4ward@BHOoneandone.com

                      Before sunday nite 11:5ate pm enter code {imaliar} for special offer

                      Also; side note sixteen trillion in debt

                      commensurate charges apply indefinitely to children grand children and when applicable any descendants necessary to fund repayment in kind , henceforth, all terms subject to revision by czars an bureaucrats at sole discretion of Potus 44 aka Pharaoh BARAKHUSSEINOBAMA mmm mmm MMM ,!,

                      vote R&R

                        Reply#29 - Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:00 AM EDT
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