Santorum raises welfare, but lacks punch

In a convention with few reminders of the 2012 Republican primary just a few months ago, Rick Santorum brought everyone back.

The former Pennsylvania senator delivered a somber speech that was more about his personal story than a ringing endorsement of Mitt Romney. It hit on many of the same themes he pushed while pursuing his longshot presidential bid, including family values, marriage and abortion. 

Addressing the Republican National Convention, Former Senator Rick Santorum broke from the recurring theme of criticising President Barrack Obama's fiscal policies to emphasize social issues.

In fact, even though Santorum was the first speaker to raise the welfare issue, his allusion to abortion was the best-received line of his speech.

“I thank God that America still has one party that reaches out their hands in love to lift up all of God’s children -- born and unborn -- and says that each of us has dignity and all of us have the right to live the American Dream,” Santorum said to a standing ovation.

On welfare, Santorum, who touted his work on welfare reform in the 1990s, accused the president of trying to “weaken our republic” and acting as if he were “above the law.”

President Obama’s policies undermine the traditional family, weaken the education system,” Santorum said. “And this summer he showed us once again he believes in government handouts and dependency by waiving the work requirement for welfare.

“I helped write welfare reform; we made the law crystal clear -- no president can waive the work requirement. But as with his refusal to enforce our immigration laws, President Obama rules like he is above the law. America take heed, when a president can simply give a speech or write a memo and change the law to do what the law says he can’t, we weaken our republic.”

Of course, the welfare attack has been widely discredited, and there is still a work requirement for welfare. There also was limited crowd reaction to the attack, which has become a mainstay of the Romney campaign on the trail and in millions of dollars in television ads.

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Lies,,more lies.....d**ed lies and GNOP Lies....

GNOP can't handle the facts. THEY CANT'HANDLE THE TRUTH!

C'mon Mythe show us the 1040's! What ARE you hiding?

  • 124 votes
#1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:33 PM EDT

He doesn't need to show the 1040's to convince me. He's a liar and he's pathetic. The GOP doesn't even want him, he's just what they ended up with. I watched the primaries.

No plan of his own, just attack President Obama

Bain Capital

Outsourcing jobs

Romneycare

Assualt weapons ban

pro abortion and then anti abortion

This guy is sad, but it's sadder that so much hate for blacks, would translate into so much compromise from those who claim they love America.

The GOP slogan should read:

Anyone but a N in the white house.

  • 103 votes
#1.3 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:55 PM EDT
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The truth is we are going bankrupt, have an incompetent President who is a socialist. Where have you been?

  • 23 votes
#1.5 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:00 PM EDT

Rick Santorum needs to disappear like Herman Cain did. Bye Rick, don't let the convention door hit you on the way out.

  • 76 votes
#1.6 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:01 PM EDT

President Obama’s policies undermine the traditional family, weaken the education system,” Santorum said. “And this summer he showed us once again he believes in government handouts and dependency by waiving the work requirement for welfare.

Total smack into your face Santorum for endorsing a LIE! The Governor of my State, Utah, is beefing up the work requirement and the President opted for it. What a sanctimonious POS you are for stating that those States that are asking that working is a requirement of welfare should be called out as being wrong. As noted in previous posts, the GOP sure likes to eat their own. While Utah is always a Red State, the GOP continuing to tell the Governor of this State that making a work requirement is wrong is nothing short of stupid. And if you're all going to say, "Well, the President should have waited for Congress to approve that." REALLY????? 12% approval rating and they do absolutely NOTHING for the people of this country. NOTHING!

  • 104 votes
#1.7 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:05 PM EDT

Roger I was thinking the same thing. I used to live in PA: I can't stand Santorum. What is wrong with some people? Santorum stole from the PA taxpayers: he claimed that his entire family (what, something like 8 kids) all lived in a 2 bedroom house in western PA that he owns, but his niece and her husband live in, so that the PA taxpayers would pick up the tab for his kid's private education. In reality, the family lived in a large house in Virginia. Which brings up another point: why would people in PA elect a senator that chooses to live in another state? When the PA voters finally got smart enough to boot him out of office, he just moved his horse and pony show to another state and convinced their taxpayers to elect him. Rick needs to get over himself and accept that most people don't want to know what his opinion is on anything.

  • 88 votes
#1.8 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:15 PM EDT

fedupwthisite

The truth is we are going bankrupt, have an incompetent President who is a socialist. Where have you been?

I've been right here. Reading while you repukes can't discern the difference between a Communist, Socialist, Fascist, or Marxist. Make up your minds, President Obama can't possibly be all four.

  • 95 votes
#1.9 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:21 PM EDT

In this article Santorum says:

I thank God that America still has one party that reaches out their hands in love to lift up all of God’s children -- born and unborn -- and says that each of us has dignity and all of us have the right to live the American Dream.”

Republicans agree that it is wrong to kill the born as-well-as the unborn. But yet, they seem to have no problem with killing off millions of young adults, and thousands of innocent young children, babies, and the elderly in Wars in spite of what one of the 10 Commandments says, "Thou shalt not kill." And it was Bush, who singed the approval for going off to war with Iraq that was built on lies about WMDs that did not exist. It is like saying that it is legitimate to kill in Wars; but illegitimate to kill an egg that is not even fertilized. Compare that with Adkin's remark of a legitimate rape is different from an illegitimate rape and someone must be punished for it. For me, there is no such thing as a good kill and a bad kill. It's hypocritical or contradicting at best!! If someone calls themselves Christians, then they should act like Christians in all respects.

  • 86 votes
#1.10 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:24 PM EDT

'The truth is we are going bankrupt, have an incompetent President who is a socialist. Where have you been?"

You don't know what a socialist is, yet you're confidently using it as a pejorative. You don't know when or how the bankruptcy will occur, yet you're confidently projecting it will happen. What a rube, the world conservatives inhabit must be one of blue and red blobs, giant hazy objects that you mindlessly habitate toward or away from. Specificity is the scariest thing to contemplate for your side

  • 60 votes
#1.11 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:25 PM EDT

Have another drink there buddy!

  • 9 votes
#1.12 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:25 PM EDT

Paul S, NY NY

Lies,,more lies.....d**ed lies and GNOP Lies....

GNOP can't handle the facts. THEY CANT'HANDLE THE TRUTH!

C'mon Mythe show us the 1040's! What ARE you hiding?

Have another drink!

  • 20 votes
#1.13 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:26 PM EDT

fedupwthisite

The truth is we are going bankrupt, have an incompetent President who is a socialist. Where have you been?

Been right here. If you're worried about going bankrupt, maybe you should ask your party leaders why it was all fun and games to lose our credit rating. I'll never forget Bachman giggling like a school girl, while standing next to Boehner, and saying "let them lower it."

Maybe you should be fed up with the GOP: "Reagan taught us that deficits don't matter." Dick Cheney

Well if deficits don't matter, then what's your problem??????

Maybe you don't like that we're in two wars that weren't paid for. Ryan the "deficit hawk" "budget hawk" Tea party poster child" didn't have a problem VOTING FOR EVERYTHING BUSH DID TO INCREASE THE DEFICIT.

I know, I'm playing the "libby blame game." Lie to yourself all you want. You hate him because he's black. PERIOD. The tparty didn't care when W was spending like a drunk, digging this hole. They didn't care when W started bailouts, and they took the bailouts and paid bonuses with them. But once the black man got in the white house, OHH the HUMANITY.

President Obama has done a great job with the cards he was dealt. He's done it with class, statesmanship, and intelligence. Get over it already.

  • 82 votes
#1.14 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:30 PM EDT

Here's what you aren't reading or hearing about at both conventions:




Corporate bribery and political corruption on display at Republican, Democratic conventions

By Barry Grey

28 August 2012

The world was spared one day of the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida thanks to the arrival of Hurricane Isaac, which forced the organizers to delay the proceedings until Tuesday. For the next three days, however, the degradation and corruption of the American political system will be on full display.

There is in this year's quadrennial conventions an unabashed flaunting of the role of corporate money in what passes for American democracy that goes beyond even the debased levels of previous presidential elections. The Republicans go out of their way to present themselves as the paid stooges of corporate America. The Democrats are a bit more devious—but only a bit.

Away from the minutely scripted and orchestrated proceedings in the convention hall—with all their hokum and stupidity—the serious business of peddling influence and selling votes will take place in what the New York Timeson Sunday called a "parallel convention." The newspaper's front-page article on the Republican meeting, in a tone closer to admiration than revulsion, begins as follows:

"The railway giant CSX, which has spent $2 million this year lobbying on issues like greenhouse gas regulation and hazardous waste transportation rules, will park special train cars near the Tampa Bay Times Forum to host parties and meetings."

It goes on to list various parties and events at exclusive venues, including a yacht, for convention delegates, office-holders and Republican Party officials that are being hosted by super PACs such as Americans for Prosperity (co-founded by the oil billionaire and Tea Party sugar daddy David Koch), trade groups such as the American Petroleum Institute, lobbying firms, corporations, and multimillionaire fundraisers.

The Republican host committee has a $55 million budget and is sponsored by such corporations as Target, Chevron and Microsoft.
"Lobbyists and trade groups, virtually all with business before Congress and federal agencies, are paying for a nonstop schedule of beach parties, concerts and cocktail hours," the Times writes. "Each party's quadrennial conventions," it declares is "a gathering of money and influence unrivaled in politics."

What goes on at these events, however, is only a more concentrated and extravagant version of politics as usual. "What happens day to day in Washington—fundraising, lobbying, dining and entertainment—expands to a gigantic scale around the conventions."

It has been decades since the nominees for president and vice president of the two big business party were actually selected at the national conventions. As the Wall Street Journal noted in its August 24 article, headlined "Red Carpet for Republican Donors:"

"The official function of a political convention—the selection of a nominee—is now fulfilled long beforehand. Its events serve two other important purposes: introducing a candidate to a prime-time audience for one hour each evening; and, during the rest of the time, showing love and appreciation to donors."

In the case of the Republicans, this means 1,500 top fundraisers with whom Romney will meet in a series of exclusive events reserved for "Stars," who have raised at least $250,000, and "Stripes," who have gathered at least $500,000. "This will be a flagship taking-care-of donors convention," Woody Johnson, owner of the New York Jets and head of Mr. Romney's fundraising in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut, told the Journal.

The other side of this orgy of official venality is a massive security operation to intimidate and marginalize political protest. The City of Tampa is, according to The Hill web site, "on virtual lockdown this week." Thousands of protesters will be penned into a "designated free speech zone" away from the convention hall. In other words, they will be denied the right to effectively exercise their free speech rights while being set up for police provocations and large-scale arrests.

The massive security operation, headed up by the Secret Service, involves the FBI, the Coast Guard and the military. Thousands of police from surrounding cities are expected to be deployed to bolster the local police. Federal officials have closed a major highway and placed floating barriers in the harbor. Air and water security zones have been set up and traffic restrictions imposed.


The Hill reported Saturday that the FBI and Homeland Security Department issued a joint intelligence bulletin last week declaring their "high confidence" that anarchist groups are "preparing to use violence and criminal tactics in an attempt to disrupt the Republican National Convention."

The level of repression is in inverse relation to the level of public enthusiasm for the elections and the two major candidates. Last week, a joint USA Today/Gallup poll was published showing that for the first time at this point in at least six elections, voters view both the Republican and Democratic parties unfavorably.

Far from the Wall Street debacle four years ago abashing the corporate-financial elite and its political parties, the domination of corporate money over the political system has become even more naked. Since the Supreme Court's 2010 decision in the Citizens United case removing all legal restrictions on corporate funding of election campaigns, it seems, both the bribers and the bribed have concluded they have a green light.

At the Republican gathering, for example, the Financial Services Roundtable, Wall Street's leading trade group, will host an invitation only luncheon for members of Congress and financial regulators, followed by a panel on how federal policy affects its members' retirement and annuity products.

Some 27 corporations and industry trade groups are known to be sponsoring the Republican convention, including the American Petroleum Institute, the American Natural Gas Alliance, Chevron, Coca-Cola, CSX, Ford, Google, Microsoft, UPS, Walmart, Wells Fargo and Xerox.

The Democrats, who meet next week in Charlotte, North Carolina to officially nominate Barack Obama, have made much of their decision to bar corporate donations to their convention host committee. This is cynical ruse.

They have set up a related entity, New American City Inc., which is accepting money from such firms as Bank of America, Duke Energy, AT&T, Coca-Cola and Wells Fargo. Between the $36 million being raised by the official host committee and the $10 million to $15 million goal of New American City, the Democrats expect to collect nearly as much as their Republican opponents.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/aug2012/conv-a28.shtml

  • 18 votes
#1.15 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:34 PM EDT

@fedup-please define socialism, and then list those policies Obama has proposed that would fit the definition (hint-you can't say healthcare reform, it is NOT socialized medicine). I always ask this question when a right winger describes Obama of being a socialist, communist, fascist, marxist. Have never gotten a coherent answer, not one person has been able to answer. Just more parroting of Rush, Fox, D'Souza without any basis in fact.

  • 47 votes
#1.16 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:36 PM EDT

Trashy Rednecks for Romney

BTW:

The Chinese, Indians and Mexicans can't wait for Mitt to win, so they can get all American jobs to stimulate their economy.

************************

BTWW:

Chris Christie is soooooooo fat that he eats biscuits like tic tacs.

Love your zingers; Trashy Rednecks for Romney


Might I add, Gov Krispy Kreme is soooooooo fat he could hardly walk to the podium. He
was out of breath.

  • 36 votes
#1.17 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:37 PM EDT

President Obama has done a great job with the cards he was dealt.

Nah, not great, but fair. He would've done a lot better had not his good buddies Lil' Timmy Geithner and Larry Summers not fused his neck bones so he couldn't look left. This is one case where I wish the republicans were right and Obama WAS actually a Socialist.

Stein/Honkala 2012

  • 11 votes
#1.18 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:38 PM EDT

Like all good Christians Scrotorum blames the poor. :)

Oh wait, I think Jesus might not agree now that I think about it!

But WTF, he's a Repubitard so he can do that. :)

  • 37 votes
#1.19 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:41 PM EDT

"Of course, the welfare attack has been widely discredited, and there is still a work requirement for welfare. There also was limited crowd reaction to the attack, which has become a mainstay of the Romney campaign on the trail and in millions of dollars in television ads."

It is good to hear that not all republicans are willing to applaud a thoroughly debunked lie.

  • 53 votes
#1.20 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:42 PM EDT

These republicans are all freaks. Do they even share the same dna as humans? Seriously.

  • 37 votes
#1.21 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:44 PM EDT

An Independent Thinker

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Republicans agree that it is wrong to kill the born as-well-as the unborn.

there is no such thing as a good kill and a bad kill. It's hypocritical or contradicting at best!! If someone calls themselves Christians, then they should act like Christians in all respects.



RepubliCons also kill abortion doctors and bomb abortion clinics. They have morphed into domestic terrorist and are no longer are Christians.

  • 36 votes
#1.22 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:45 PM EDT

Who cares about Santorum? Nobody pays attention to what Santorum has to say.

  • 22 votes
#1.23 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:46 PM EDT

Hi Forrest Grump 2.0


"Of course, the welfare attack has been widely discredited, and there is still a work requirement for welfare. There also was limited crowd reaction to the attack, which has become a mainstay of the Romney campaign on the trail and in millions of dollars in television ads."

It is good to hear that not all republicans are willing to applaud a thoroughly debunked lie

Yup, and even better to see Gov Krispie Kreme's speech went flat. I believe Gov Krispie Kreme did what he had to do because he's thinking I want out of the Klown Kar. I thinking of 2016.

Hope you are fine.


  • 18 votes
#1.24 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:51 PM EDT

Are you better off than you were 4 years ago? Do you want 4 more years just like the last 4 years? If you do, vote Obama! If not, vote Romney! The fact is that no one can think of anything that Obama has done that has helped the country. Maybe it is the $6 trillion increase in the federal deficit since he took office. Yup, that sounds like it's done a lot for this country. When you consider the federal deficit was about $9 trillion when he took office, you should really be impressed! Or, you could be really glad that unemployment was around 7.6% when Obama took office and how he took charge of the economy and solved the high unemployment with the "stimulus" package that was needed to keep unemployment below 8%. The important thing is that his INTENT was to keep it below 8%. The fact that it's been above 8% since then is irrelevant, of course. At least he intended to keep it low.

  • 7 votes
#1.25 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:55 PM EDT

Here you go witchrunner:

This was the CNN Money headline in Bush's last month of office:

Job loss: Worst in 34 years

Employers slashed 598,000 more jobs in January as unemployment rate climbed to 7.6%.

Here was last month's number from the Bureau of Labor Statistics:

Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 163,000 in July.

All the GOP can do to win is LIE.

  • 40 votes
#1.26 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:01 AM EDT
Comment author avatartothetop777Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

djrashn

fedupwthisite

The truth is we are going bankrupt, have an incompetent President who is a socialist. Where have you been?

I've been right here. Reading while you repukes can't discern the difference between a Communist, Socialist, Fascist, or Marxist. Make up your minds, President Obama can't possibly be all four.

But we do know any of them is not a good direction of this country LIBTARD! Brainless a$$wipe.

  • 3 votes
#1.27 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:01 AM EDT

witchrunner.....

Are you better off than you were 4 years ago? Do you want 4 more years just like the last 4 years?

He!! yes! The DOW is up and loan rates are down. What more do you want???? Jobs??? Of course we all want more jobs in this country but if you think the Koch Bros and Sheldon Adelson are going to give them to us ... think again. All they want are tax cuts ... like capital gains tax cuts for the middle class. Like they have capital gains to have taxes cut on??? Get real. Romney wants a crown of Presidency on his head and the Koch's and Adelson want to buy it for him.

4 more for 44

  • 47 votes
#1.28 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:07 AM EDT

I'm good Bev thank you, hope you are doing good as well.

I did not see any of the speeches, just commenting on what I read above. I have no need to watch their convention, my mind is already made up, Romney is not new, he has been around for years, he has changed his positions for years, he will not release his taxes, I already know what I need to know about him, and there is no speech that can change what he has already proved himself to be. If you start with a phony and then through in lots of baloney, you still just wind up with phony baloney. No thanks, I'll pass.

  • 33 votes
#1.29 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:08 AM EDT

"Going bankrupt", tothetop777?

Who told you that - Rupert Murdoch?

Here's the a couple of charts of U.S. Gross Domestic Product for 1990 to 2011:

GDP 1990 to 2011

United States GDP Growth Rate, 1990 to 2012

Looks like the only time we were "going bankrupt" during that period was when your boy Bush was in office.

There's more money in the U.S. economy today than there was before the recession. The only difference is who it's going to. (hint - one of their initials is W.M.R.)

  • 32 votes
#1.30 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:09 AM EDT

I find it hilarious that Republicans use the word 'socialist' like it's a bad thing - and yet threaten to take away social security, medicare, or medicaid and they freak out.

We live in a largely socialist country already. Don't kid yourself into thinking we're capitalists. True capitalism is great for the 1% and horrible for everyone else - it's not something to strive toward.

  • 30 votes
#1.31 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:10 AM EDT

I find it funny how the Republicans are falling all over themselves to say they "believe" Mitt - so they don't need any proof (no birth certificate, no tax returns).

Can you imagine them saying to Obama, "Never mind, Mr. President, we don't need to see your tax returns." ????

H Y P O C R I T E S

Just look at Newt and his "family values"

  • 36 votes
#1.32 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:19 AM EDT

The fact is that no one can think of anything that Obama has done that has helped the country.

Baloney, I think almost everyone can think of several things Obama has done to help the country. here's 4 easy ones for ya:

1) Ridding the world of Osama bin Laden and much of Al Quaida

2) The DOW - more than doubled during Obama's presidency

3) The jobless rate, while not recovering as fast as we'd all like, is still far better than it was when he started

4) GM and Chrysler and countless small businesses that depend on them are still in business

  • 38 votes
#1.33 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:26 AM EDT

Beverly in Chicago & Witchrunner

Ah-h-h! But, they call themselves conservative, Born Again Christians ,who strongly desire to ignore the poor, the minority, the elderly, and the sick. Did they ever really read the Bible about how Jesus went about helping and feeding the very same people Republicans look down their noses at? The Orlando City Republican Officials passed City Ordinances not to feed the homeless except twice a week in a specific spot near the city edge where public transportation is not available. The feeding was to be accomplished in less than two hours, and the city, State, and Feds did not spend one penny for the donated food or time. Many ignored this ordinance, and then were hauled off to jail and fined for feeding the poor out of their own pockets. And why was this city ordinance passed? Because the Righteous upper crust 1% in Winter Park did not want the homeless walking on their beautiful streets or detracting from their city regardless of the fact that the majority of the homeless are Vets, not to mention very young children as well. They must be really proud of themselves as good Christians!?!?

  • 26 votes
#1.34 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:29 AM EDT
Comment author avatartothetop777Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

RealAmericansFirst, maybe you ought to pull your lazy Liberal a$$ brain out of your a$$hole and read the bottom line I wrote before you talk out your a$$. Post, to a Response, to my post. JUST ANOTHER DUMBA$$ LIBTARD AS USUAL.

  • 2 votes
#1.35 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:30 AM EDT

tothetop777 - I'm real sorry that under our current healthcare system you can't get the meds you need.

If you wait until next year, you'll be able to get them under Obamacare.

Sorry it wasn't sooner - the GOP insisted that nobody get any benefit from the new system until after they got one more shot at the White House.

  • 34 votes
#1.36 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:34 AM EDT

Does anyone else find it amusing that witchrunner quoted the guy who spent his entire 8 years blaming the guy who came before him? Yet these are the same people who whine that "Oh you guys are still blaming Bush...get over it."

Of course they also hate it when you mention that their automatic fallback position on anything until January 20th 2009 (and in some cases even now) was "Blame Clinton"

  • 16 votes
#1.37 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:35 AM EDT
Comment author avatartothetop777Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

RealAmericanFirst, I bet you hate all those Corporations in America like all you POS Libtards do. Your the first Motherf#####, in line to go to Target and WalMart for all those deals though aren't you? Watch TV? Post on this LIBTARD suck a## website? You get the picture don't you? Don't worry, when Romney knocks the clown out of the White House, you will still get your food stamps, but you may have to earn them like the rest of the people building this country. Douche Bag

  • 1 vote
#1.38 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:39 AM EDT

Jees, tothetop...do you kiss your mother/aunt with that mouth?

I must say I'm pleased to see that your still able to use such original and witty insults.

  • 14 votes
#1.39 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:40 AM EDT
  • “He glosses over and doesn’t even tell the truth. … Here is a guy who is the ultimate flip-flopper running for president, and he’s attacking me for not being principled? That doesn’t wash.”

~Rick Santorum on Mitt Romney, campaign event in Tennessee, February 2012

  • 27 votes
#1.40 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:53 AM EDT

"Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"

I most certainly am witchrunner, I lost a ton of money under Bush, the markets are more than double what they were in Nov. 2008, I got it all back and then some. I have never been unemployed under Obama, that is not a problem for me. I did shut down my small business several months back, but that was because my mother in law was diagnosed with terminal cancer and I could not in good conscious travel and leave my wife to deal with that all alone while I was away for weeks at a time. I was off about a week, during that time I made up a resume and posted it to a few job listing sites, I literally got a call for an interview within an hour of posting that resume. I accepted that local job, and worked there for 5 weeks, I quit that job a few days before my mother in law passed away, that was a little over three weeks ago. So I re-posted my resume with a couple of headhunting sites, I start an absolutely fabulous new job next week, although I will have to travel about 50% of the time. The new job is along the lines of what my small consulting business was based on, however with the offer they made me there really is no benefit in all the hassle and unpaid time involved with owning and maintaining my own small business. For most of my life I worked under a collective bargaining contract that afforded me good pay, health benefits and a retirement fund, that is the only reason I had a little bit of security and seed money to start my small business after I reached an age where my kids were all raised and out of the house. At that point I did not need to work so steady and could take a chance on a varible income which comes with the territory when you own your own business. Honestly when I shut that down with all the talk about how bad the unemployment is and at my age I was a bit nervous, but like I said I found work immediately and it was a pretty decent paying union job. I quit because I am not in the physical shape I used to be, because with my mother in laws passing I no longer felt guilty if I had to travel, I had no trouble finding and landing that job, and quit frankly I have grown accustomed to calling the shots. Now at my age to be embarking on a new career with a huge company based on my expertise in a certain industry yes personally I definitely feel that I am better off.

  • 23 votes
#1.41 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:04 AM EDT

It's not too early to ask the question, do you right wingers feel it slipping away yet? because it is.

  • 13 votes
#1.42 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:05 AM EDT

Beverly,

LIke being a bigot?? Your comment about Christie being overweight is equal to the squealing you do about someone criticizing Obama about his skin color... Total hypocrite...

  • 7 votes
#1.43 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:28 AM EDT

President Obama's policies undermine the traditional family, weaken the education system,

Says Santorum. What a tool! His speech was a sorry lamentation that he was not the NOMINEE. He had NOTHING NICE TO SAY ABOU FLIP-FLOPER Romney.

We can tell how much "He cares" about Mitt, Ann, Ryan, and especially boss Norquist.

  • 11 votes
#1.44 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:07 AM EDT

Here is Barack Obama's Main Accomplishments

Barack Obama's Main Accomplishments:

Signed the National Defence Authorization Act (NDAA) Bill into Law allowing any US citizen to Be Detained WITHOUT trial (A federal Court Blocked it in May because it Violates the Constitution, but Obama is not trying to get it UNBLOCKED!).

He has Killed HUNDREDS of Innocent people (Including 3 American Citizens) in Pakistan and Yemen with Drone Strikes (He’s Ordered even more drone strikes than Bush!).

The rate of National Debt under George Bush was Around $60 Billion a Month. Under Obama, it’s been $190 Billion a Month, so that would be Nearly $600 Per US Citizen (Thanks Obama!).

Obama Care: Page 22. MANDATES, The Government will Audit Book of ALL Employers who Self Insure. Page 50, Section 152, Health Care WILL be Provided to ALL Non US Citizens, Illegal or otherwise. Page 126, Lines 22-25, Employers Must Pay for Their Part time Employees Health Care AND Their Families. Page 127, Lines 1-16, The Government WILL Tell you How much Money you can Make.

Obama has By-passed Congress to Enable the DREAM Act (Unconstitutional to By-Pass Congress, and the Illegals he allowed to become Legal Citizens has Committed over 19 Murders and Over 142 Sex crimes).

Obama Claims he Campaigned in 57 States (Maybe he wasn’t Born in this Country?).

  • 8 votes
#1.45 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:30 AM EDT

I see that some people who cannot come up with an answer, resort to cussing and bashing!

About the country being broke: Van Jones of Rebuild The Dream recently stated that America is not broke, she is being robbed. The Robber Barons are getting all of the subsidies, tax breaks, and all the riches, all at the expense of rest of us (99%).

What the President has done. One of the best thing he did was health care. I know, I know, it is not really what everybody wanted. But I judge success by the good it causes and by the impact it has on the country.

.For the first time in the history of the country, insurance companies must spend 80% of your insurance payments on your medical care or give you back refund. This year more than 12 million people will receive more than a billion dollars in refunds. That smells like success to me! The insurance companies cannot deny you coverage just because you are sick (preexisting conditions). Everyone must have coverage. Again, a good thing! Much of our medical cost come form the uninsured going to emergency rooms at two to three times the cost of a normal doctors visit. Children in college can stay on their parents policies until age 26. I'll bet a $ to every doughnut that parents in this situation saves a ton of money as well as worries. Closed the doughnut hole (after receiving $800 some seniors had to start paying for their own prescriptions) in senior prescription drug benefits. This is the basis for the $1.76 billion dollars lie that Romney and republicans are putting out. The president took this money from ineffectual programs and helped seniors. We should be remindful that President Bush and his republican controlled congress passed the doughnut hole, under guise of Medicare reform????

..End time limits (statues of limitation) on when and individual can file a law suit once they discover that they have been wronged by their employer(s). Of course this was happening to women the most, so the republican had no interest in fixing this problem.

...Decreased student loans interest burden on our children. The government used to lend money to finance companies to lend to students. The finance companies made bundles while too many of our children were sent into financial slavery, just to get an education. The President decided that this did not make any sense. He conceived the idea that the government should loan the money directly to the students, which ensured more students could go to college, and at a reduced rate. I wish he had been in a position to grandfather all the prior students, but again success. Of course the finance companies died from hebbie jebbies, and that's alright!

Listen, I could go on, and I think many others could too, if they would lay down their hate for a moment or two. I dare anyone to convince me that these actions were not successes and did not have a positive effect on the American people. After all folks, that is the number one job of the President of The United States of America. I'll report and you decide!!!!

  • 19 votes
#1.46 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:44 AM EDT

witchrunner

Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?

yes! 4 yrs ago was 2008 during which we witnessed Financial Meldown, Housing bubble exploding, 2.6 million jobs lost (another 2 million in the following 3 months), everyone's 401(k) evaporating, Bush's No-Strings-Attached blank checks made out to banks (later used for exec. bonuses), etc.

I can keep going on but you get the point.

Obama 2012/Romney 1040

  • 25 votes
#1.47 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:32 AM EDT

fedupwthisite

The truth is we are going bankrupt, have an incompetent President who is a socialist. Where have you been?

Bush created a $500,000,000,000 UNFUNDED spending burn rate that will add to our debt for many years to come. Bush handed us a collapsed economy that provides $500,000,000,000 LESS revenue... making $1,000,000,000,000 of our annual deficit traced back to Bush. This would be true no matter WHO was president.

Artificially low taxes at the top and on capital gains ENCOURAGES executives to remove money from business and send it to the Cayman Islands INSTEAD of reinvesting in business or creating jobs. It is at the heart of our high-profit-slow growth environment. It is fundamental to the fact that the rich got richer during this recession while the rest of us lost 40% of our net worth. And Romney and the GOP want to lower the taxes on the rich even more. This isn't a fairness issue, it's an economic issue. They are incenting the EXACT wrong behavior for their own gain.

Doing the math on such huge numbers, there is NO WAY to balance the budget in this economic environment... in fact, austerity would send our economy into an irreversible death spiral. Ryan's plan, besides balancing Bush's brainless unfunded spending on the backs of the people, would put us on the EXACT wrong track and would, indeed, push us into full bankruptcy.

The only way to address the debt is to recover and grow the economy, and we sure as hell don't do this on the moronic notion of less taxes at the top and less regulations... we do it with a cooperative political system that encourages consumers and markets. It's the ONLY way we will recover.

Soooo... incompetence? Socialist? Hardly. In fact, if you and yours were the least bit interested in recovery or avoiding bankruptcy, you would start working with this administration on JOBS instead of your social agenda and need for power.

Romney and Ryan are so far off target on real solutions that they are jokes in the technical economic world.

I'm sure my concrete business will do better with lower taxes on the money I won't make... and by eliminating all those regulations that aren't in my way in the least... and by getting rid of Obamacare that is the only thing between me and medical bankruptcy... and by forcing rape victims to carry to full term... yep, they sure got me covered!

I wouldn't vote for these morons on a bet.

  • 16 votes
#1.48 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:35 AM EDT

Well, hell. I wasn't going to vote for Mitt, but now that I know his wife had MS and breast cancer and ATE off an ironing board, how can I NOT vote for him?? I mean, now that I know he CAN fix the economy??

  • 8 votes
#1.49 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:48 AM EDT

drive-by-observer

Well, hell. I wasn't going to vote for Mitt, but now that I know his wife had MS and breast cancer and ATE off an ironing board, how can I NOT vote for him?? I mean, now that I know he CAN fix the economy??

Also, according to Queen Ann, Mitt walked her home SAFELY after their high school date so he is sooooo qualified to be POTUS. What a bunch of morons!

  • 11 votes
#1.50 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:07 AM EDT
  • I want Mitt Romney to explain to me how he plans to make the failed economic policies of George W. Bush work this time around.
  • 17 votes
#1.51 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:10 AM EDT

Whining, crying libs. Watch the difference next week on these boards when the DNC has their party. I'm going to have to break out the Dawn liquid to keep my screen clean from all the dripping, oozing flow of sugary substance flowing from it. I'm stocking up on paper towels as we speak.

Libs are the only creatures alive that think the DNC are honorable, worthy politicians.

Hey libs... let's talk about the war on women for a moment. Should the republican men take on the mantle of democrats like Bill Clinton with his respect for women... or how about John Edwards... and the love he has for women... and then there's always the late Ted Kennedy and how much respect he showed for Mary Jo... You know, the same Ted Kennedy that was voted back into office many times after Chappaquiddick. Fine upstanding examples of democrats and their love for women.

  • 5 votes
#1.52 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:18 AM EDT

FZ6man:

more lies. Is that all you guys can do is lie, lie lie? Did it ever occur to you to fact check before you post info from a chain e-mail? I guess thats how you guys get your "facts" now-chain e-mails and Fox news.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-lies-about-hr-3200/

it took me about a minute and a half to find this and disprove it

  • 4 votes
#1.53 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:19 AM EDT

Hey Charlie - I can do that... it's very simple... Mitt won't be using the failed policies of Bush... unlike Obama who has Bush's policies all over his administration.

See, that wasn't very hard now, was it?

  • 4 votes
#1.54 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:21 AM EDT

I'm not impressed by the candidates of ANY party this year, but stop with the garbage of trying to blame our now average trillion dollar budget deficits on a President who has been out of office for over three and a half years !!

Bush deserves plenty of the blame for our current economic mess not only for allowing Wall Street anarchy but for signing off on the idiotic corn sourced ethanol* of the Alternative Energy Act of 2007. Gas prices are nearing $4 a gallon again here and are unlikely to fall below $3.50 after they recover from the current spike. Corn sourced ethanol has a great deal to do with that, since the corn crop has been damaged by this summer's extreme drought (I support ethanol production, but not corn sourced ethanol, since it is an inefficient biofuel and using 40% of a drought reduced food grain for fuel is sheer stupidity) and prices have risen as a result of a smaller crop !!

But blaming Bush for four years of trillion dollar deficits when President Obama had fiscal input in EVERY ONE of those trillion dollar budget deficit years and two of those years had a Democrat Controlled Congress to work with rates a fail with me. You might get me to give W one of those years and twist my arm to blame him for half, but all four?? Not happening !!

I am sure I will be very disappointed in the performance of whoever wins in November, but if they suck for four years, it will be THEIR fault, not Obama's (unless it is indeed Obama ) or Bush's.

As far as Santorum, if he was the nominee, the President could count on my vote. As it is, I'm leaning heavily against a second term for the President, but (sadly) can't rule anything out, since I strongly oppose the social conservatives that Santorum represents, folks who claim to believe in "small government" but in reality want to impose their own regressive religious nanny state in place of the namby pamby secular "progressive" nanny state favored by far too many Democrats !!

  • 2 votes
#1.55 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:23 AM EDT

Hey bayllie - That's not half as bad as Obama taking Mooschelle all the way to New York in Air Force One for a dinner date at your expense. I guess that qualifies him for the job of POTUS too, eh?

  • 4 votes
#1.56 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:24 AM EDT

Santorum pivoted on the Romney welfare lie about the President gutting the welfare work requirement so welfare recipients wouldn't have to work(which Obama actually strengthened to requiring a 20% improvement in job placement of welfare recipients before state's changes would become permanent) to that he gutted the welfare work requirement legally by changing it without Congressional approval.

He did this by only briefly mentioning the Lie in his speech, but then in followup interview with Andrea Mitchell he claimed Obama gutted it by changing it without Congressional authorization. He also claimed that he knew this because he helped write the law. When Mitchell moved on to another subject, Santorum responded with this huge smile and I knew then that he believed he had succeeded in spinning the exposed GOP welfare lie from gutting welfare's work requirement to gutting welfare's work requirement based on legal authority.

I worry that this strategy may succeed. The Republicans have turned lying into an art form.

I find it puzzling that Mitt will not tell us about how much he has helped people because he is such a humble man (Ann Romney's contention) while pursuing such a sophisticated BIG LIE strategy. In Mormon morality, it's not OK to brag about your accomplishments, but is it OK to lie about your opponents accomplishments? In my world, lying is a very bad thing to do. Yet, Romney does it almost casually while claiming to be a man of high morals. I don't get it.

  • 5 votes
#1.57 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:32 AM EDT

So, brianb: the black President of this nation is not entitled to Air Force One, that ALL Presidents have used for security as well as access to the world events?

Bigot.

  • 16 votes
#1.58 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:38 AM EDT

Force the kids into the world and then take away their morning breakfast program!!!! Time and time again the Republicans show how hypocritically sick they are ..........

  • 7 votes
#1.59 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:41 AM EDT

newday,

I believe that the Secret Service has the last word on
what is acceptable for Presidents travel accommodations.

  • 6 votes
#1.60 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:44 AM EDT

“I helped write welfare reform; we made the law crystal clear -- no president can waive the work requirement.

well then, it's probably a good thing that President Obama didn't do that then, huh Ricky?

Seriously. What is the Republican fascination with people on welfare every election cycle? Do they honestly think it's welfare recipients that caused our fiscal hole? Or food stamp recipients?

Apparently, from the Republican standpoint, this country is flat broke because poor people have too much and rich people have too little...

Nah, not great, but fair. He would've done a lot better had not his good buddies Lil' Timmy Geithner and Larry Summers not fused his neck bones so he couldn't look left. This is one case where I wish the republicans were right and Obama WAS actually a Socialist.

Well F'in said.

  • 6 votes
#1.61 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:46 AM EDT

Additional thought,

Santorum's pivot revolved around the word "gutting". In followup with Mitchell she quoted his words, then stated the fact that Obama had strengthened it. He responded by citing the question of Obama's legal authority and in his answer to the final followup question he again used the phrase "gutted welfare's work requirement" while only referring to the legal issue. Tricky. It didn't sound like the word "gutted" fit into what he was saying. This is the essence of changing the discredited BIG LIE about welfare work requirement to something way more confusing.

  • 3 votes
#1.62 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:48 AM EDT

Absolutely, Dennis, and if brian doesn't know that, he should do some reading.

  • 7 votes
#1.63 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:51 AM EDT

Are you better off than you were 4 years ago? Do you want 4 more years just like the last 4 years?

As a matter of fact I am making around $7K more a year now then 4 years ago so yes. :)

  • 7 votes
#1.64 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:52 AM EDT

So, brianb: the black President of this nation is not entitled to Air Force One, that ALL Presidents have used for security as well as access to the world events?

Bigot.

Ignore brianb, he's a racist living behind bars in prison.

  • 8 votes
#1.65 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:54 AM EDT

Right to life, Rick?

How about a right to a physically and emotionally healthy life? How about a right not to be born out of incest or rape? how about a right not to be born with fetal alcohol syndrome, or born addicted to drugs? How about a right to be born into a family where the parents are healthy and ready to raise another child?

How about a right to choose that for ourselves, without interference from government?

Santorum's answer to all the nation's problems: vote for god for president.

No wonder he lost, and lost big.

  • 8 votes
#1.66 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:03 AM EDT

LMarcT

Great Post!!

  • 1 vote
#1.67 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:08 AM EDT

Newday - what does Obama being black have to do with anything? I'm glad you exposed yourself to be the racist you are. Did you even understand my point? When was the last time your spouse flew you to a dinner date at other people's expense? The total trip cost taxpayers over $700,000.

I realize you feel poor Obama needs to take his wife out on the town... even though that town involves a flight in Air Force One... Just for an evening of entertainment. While this nation struggles under the economic weight of $16 Trillion in debt and deficits exceeding $1.2 Trillion, what's a mere $700,000, right? After all, he is Obama, the ruler of the nation... a person you worship and adore.

  • 3 votes
#1.68 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:14 AM EDT

In a moment of clarity Joe Biden had it right with his statement about keeping y'all in chains. He was not referring to the republican party,he was referring to the democratic party and President Obama. The more freebies that the democrats give you, the more control over your lives they have. If you don't do this or that then you don't get the freebies. Granted some need those freebies, others just want to live off the government dole. And I reference Pelosi's daughters documentary where those individuals were interviewed and they were all able bodied, healthy and young but sitting outside the welfare office waiting for their money and asking for more so they could get dates. You libs remember that one don't you. But in hindsight probably not.

  • 2 votes
#1.69 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:21 AM EDT

kaybeetoys - how about personal responsibility? Is that located anywhere in your thesis? How about people taking on responsibility for their actions? Since you are an advocate for abortion, how about other forms of government interference? Should all drug use be allowed? Should people be able to kill other people? Why not go all the way since you seem to feel that interference only applies to a women's right to kill her fetus. Why limit yourself? Why not advocate for all forms of anarchy... I mean since you feel it's OK to kill a fetus... and depriving that human the right to life... what's stopping you from taking it to the next level... How about killing a new born? It can't take care of itself so it's not viable. That's the liberal argument isn't it? The fetus doesn't have a right to life because it's not viable.

The insanity of the left is the reason 6 million people never make it past the doctor's knifes.

  • 2 votes
#1.70 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:21 AM EDT

Jeff, you can kiss my ass. I didn't mention race at all, but the moment a liberal tosses race into the conversation, it's the conservative that automatically becomes the racist. You must be a racist too since you advocate this practice. Forget the fact that what Obama did was totally wrong... I'm a racist because I don't feel his expenditure was practical or even worthy. Keep on playing your racist games...

  • 2 votes
#1.71 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:27 AM EDT

How did Bush get to his ranch in Crawford, Texas from Washington D.C. Brianb?

He spent more time there than any other president in U.S. history has spent away from the capital.

Did he ride his bike?

Focus on the real issues in this campaign.

  • 9 votes
#1.72 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

Hey Charlie - I can do that... it's very simple... Mitt won't be using the failed policies of Bush...

  • Briand -- you're either completely stupid or completely uninformed -- or both. The Romney economic plan is a carbon copy of the failed Bush plan -- more tax cuts for the richest of the rich and more deregulation. So tell me why will it work this time around?
  • 9 votes
#1.73 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:32 AM EDT

"Jeff, you can kiss my ass."

Well Briand -- you just answered one question. You're completely stupid. How old are you -- 5 -- or perhaps even 9??

  • 8 votes
#1.74 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:33 AM EDT

I think BrianB has been put on ignore by most people here judging by the number of rants he posts without anyone responding back to his nonsense. Apparently he is fond of hollering in a barell so he can hear himself talk.

  • 7 votes
#1.75 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:34 AM EDT

Drowning Grover said: Seriously. What is the Republican fascination with people on welfare every election cycle? Do they honestly think it's welfare recipients that caused our fiscal hole? Or food stamp recipients?

Hey Grover, have you ever looked at a chart of government spending? Do you know that among the largest segments of that chart, social programs dwarf the other segments? Of course you don't. If you did, you wouldn't be spouting off like you do. Become educated on how the government spends money. Defense isn't half of what all social programs are... so as far as creating a hole in the national budget... welfare programs are pretty much up there at the top.

  • 3 votes
#1.76 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:35 AM EDT

I don't care how many liberals put me on ignore. The more the merrier. It only goes to show exactly how they want to limit freedom of speech... besides they can't handle what I have to say because it cuts right into the heart of their delusions.

  • 3 votes
#1.77 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:38 AM EDT

kaybeetoys - how about personal responsibility? Is that located anywhere in your thesis? How about people taking on responsibility for their actions?

That is EXACTLY what I advocate, freedom and choice. We should take responsibility for having children if and when we can afford to raise them, both financially and emotionally. Women should not be forced to bear and raise the child of a rapist or an incestuous pedophile. Unless, of course, you want the American gene pool to resemble something out of a horror film.

Since you are an advocate for abortion, how about other forms of government interference? Should all drug use be allowed? Should people be able to kill other people? Why not go all the way since you seem to feel that interference only applies to a women's right to kill her fetus.

I hate to be the one to break this to you, but abortion has existed in the human population for thousands of years. You can make it illegal for a woman to choose when to have a child...you can make it illegal for a woman to chose whose child to bear and raise. But your laws will never stop women from choosing. We'll just return to back alley abortions.

Since you are not a woman and can blithely skip away from the woman you impregnate and from your own child, you have no platform on this issue.

Why limit yourself? Why not advocate for all forms of anarchy... I mean since you feel it's OK to kill a fetus... and depriving that human the right to life... what's stopping you from taking it to the next level... How about killing a new born? It can't take care of itself so it's not viable. That's the liberal argument isn't it? The fetus doesn't have a right to life because it's not viable.

The insanity of the left is the reason 6 million people never make it past the doctor's knifes.

Your position is insane. Look up the definition of anarchy. Forcing a human being --a WOMAN--to bear the child of a rapist? Of her uncle, father, or brother?

Go live in that kind of society and then you will know the meaning of anarchy.

  • 7 votes
#1.78 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:46 AM EDT

Always trying to have it both ways.

President Obama Speech - Repuks say "You can't just make a great speech and everything will be alright

Candidate Robbeme Clowns Speeches - Repuks say "Myth is lovable and kind and cares about poor people and the middle class and women too"

I say that Bull Sh!t - Telling a LIE wont get people to vote for you.

  • 4 votes
#1.79 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:52 AM EDT

xray...Santorum probably will not form any policies in the Romney administration, he lost. Remember at the FIRST joint meeting of the house and senate leaders when the Speaker of the House offered a suggestion and the president said I won. You lost. That was the end of comprise.

Also, do not judge all republican policies by Santorum that would be like judging the morals of all democrats by John Edwards, Ted Kennedy, and Clinton. But then one of their main speakers is Sandra Fluke who wants you to pay for her unprotected sex as a single.

  • 2 votes
#1.80 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:00 AM EDT

You are a racist Brian, and if you don't like that, then quit being one.

You are making an issue of the President using Air Force One, something that is required of President's for security as constant communications.

That you decry this for this President, and since I didn't hear you bitching about it when Bush took Air Force One out so he could go cut brush on his "ranch, " that makes you a grade A bigot.

What do you want this President to do, take commercial air flights?

Yeah that will work.

  • 6 votes
#1.81 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:11 AM EDT

I think BrianB has been put on ignore by most people here judging by the number of rants he posts without anyone responding back to his nonsense. Apparently he is fond of hollering in a barell so he can hear himself talk.

:D He's a classic example of a brain damaged Republitard. He went on my ignore list a long time ago. That's why he rants so much. No one pays attention to him.

  • 6 votes
#1.82 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:15 AM EDT

Hey Grover, have you ever looked at a chart of government spending?

You mean like this one?

http://thefalconpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Budget-Pie-Chart.jpg

Do you know that among the largest segments of that chart, social programs dwarf the other segments?

I wouldn't call 20% of spending "Dwarfing", but this isn't a scientific estimate anyway.

Of course you don't. If you did, you wouldn't be spouting off like you do.

Based on many of your posts, I think it'd be fair to say I'm as informed, perhaps moreso, than you.

Become educated on how the government spends money. Defense isn't half of what all social programs are...

DoD takes up 18%, HHS (which is FAR FAR more than just welfare and foodstamps) takes 20%. Defense is far more than "half" of what social programs are, unless of course you're lumping Social Security, Medicare, etc., into your "social programs" diatribe at which point I think you may have a bone to pick with the millions of Americans who paid into these funds their entire lives...

so as far as creating a hole in the national budget... welfare programs are pretty much up there at the top.

Again, not so much. Welfare spending is roughly $500 Billion. We spend $400B per year servicing the national debt and $800B on the military. But much of what we spend on welfare comes back into the economy as it's spent almost entirely and immediately on goods/services in the private sector. Can you say the same for interest payments (that's a black hole) and the Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq?

We spend a lot on money on welfare programs in this country, true, but what's the alternative? Cut everyone off at the knees and watch our people starve as we enter a second depression? No thanks.

  • 8 votes
#1.83 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

Brianb-999431

Drowning Grover said: Seriously. What is the Republican fascination with people on welfare every election cycle? Do they honestly think it's welfare recipients that caused our fiscal hole? Or food stamp recipients?

Hey Grover, have you ever looked at a chart of government spending? Do you know that among the largest segments of that chart, social programs dwarf the other segments? Of course you don't. If you did, you wouldn't be spouting off like you do. Become educated on how the government spends money. Defense isn't half of what all social programs are... so as far as creating a hole in the national budget... welfare programs are pretty much up there at the top.

Well, BB, normally I avoid responding to your nonsense because it's always so void of facts. But the demonizing of the poor bastards people like you step on daily just goes beyond belief.

Stick this where the sun doesn't shine (I'll try to keep this simple):

1) Clinton provided Bush a balanced budget.

2) Bush spent like a drunken sailor on two wars, an ever expanding Homeland Security, Medicaid, and years of unfounded unprincipled tax cuts and NEVER FUNDED A F@#KING THING.

3) Bush then handed us a collapsed economy... between his two irreversible actions, it costs us $1 Trillion a year in deficit spending that continue today.

4) Then the brain dead come back and blame the deficit on Welfare recipients.

What a bunch of self-centered a$$holes...

  • 10 votes
#1.84 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

So the Republican party nominates a man who embodies everything that is wrong with America. When he's not gutting companies, offshoreing jobs and stealing peoples retirement accounts, leaving the American taxpayer to foot the bill, he's helping other companies offshore jobs and use agressive tax evasion tactics to screw the United States. There are used car salesmen, and there are snake oil salesmen. And then there's Mutt Rombot, the Used Snake Oil Salesman. Liar and Flip-Flopper Extraordiniare. Willard and his party want Obamacare overturned, it's Socialism! So, they are saying Willard is a socialist. The new CAFE standards for 2025 had been realeased less than an hour before Rombot labels them "Extreme". Yet 70% of Americans want cars with better fuel economy. In Rombot's world 70% of citizens mean nothing compared with what big oil wants. What an all around Douchbag.

  • 6 votes
#1.85 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:48 AM EDT

brianb is SO right. a better use of air force one is delivering birthday cakes to sitting senators on an Arizona tarmack while Katrina rages on.

not to mention the countless trips back to clear that pesky, national security threat BRUSH in Texas, right?

sheesh. petty party of one, your table is ready.

  • 10 votes
#1.86 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:02 AM EDT

You've hit the nail on the head, LMarcT.

Republicans screwed us for eight years under Bush/Cheney, and now they want to screw us some more to pay for their mistakes.

They want to take away our Social Security and Medicare, which we have already paid for in our payroll deductions, because they threw our money away to fight a useless, senseless war in Iraq that enriched companies like Cheney's Halliburton.

They gave huge tax deductions to large corporations that sent jobs overseas, and now they're blaming Obama for the unemployment rate.

They use lobbyists to write their legislation and buy their places in congress with campaign donations from people like the Koch brothers. The crook Sheldon Adelson, the nitwit Donald Trump, and the lobbyist Grover Norquist have more power than our duly elected officials.

They say we have to make do with less, and yet their anointed leader hides millions in offshore accounts and won't be open about his own financial interests.

Do we need more of their GOP crap? Hell no!!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

  • 5 votes
#1.87 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:03 AM EDT

" ... Maybe it is the $6 trillion increase in the federal deficit ... "

You see, there's the problem. You have no clue how the system works. So, if you had really read and understood that piece of paper that the Right keeps waving around, the Constitution, you would know who actually owns that "$6 trillion increase in the deficit". As well as the rest of the crap you spewed out.

The BUDGET and it's deficit belong to Congress. Specifically, The House. And Paul Ryan. The Budget, and there fore the debit and deficit, is the sole responsibility of the House. Not the President. Not the Senate.

The House, which by the way is Republican controlled. So if you want to whine about what was, is being done to this country. Blame those that are doing it. Blame those that have not only said no, but "Hell no!" ( That would be a quote from the Republican Speaker of the House. ).

But then, the Right doesn't need facts or the truth. They have nothing to do with anything. Then again, the rest of us know that.

  • 4 votes
#1.88 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

Brianb-999431

Hey bayllie - That's not half as bad as Obama taking Mooschelle all the way to New York in Air Force One for a dinner date at your expense. I guess that qualifies him for the job of POTUS too, eh?

you mean like George Bush being on vacation about 1000 days out of 8 years? You mean like GWB's about 2.75 years playing LANDSCAPING BOY at his ranch in TX while using AF1 to fly back and forth?

You mean like GWB that was too busy clearing brush to listen to the CIA intel about the planned terrosists attack using planes? How much did that cost us? You want to compare presidents?

And please show me ANYTHING that show Obama spends more on his vacation than any other president. I won't hold my breath though....

BTW, ask any Mass resident how they feel about Romney using Massachusetts like a pimp uses a prostitute. He racked up bills using Mass State Police like his personal escort because for one year, instead of being the governor, he travelled around to make connections for his 2008 presidential candidacy WHICH BY THE WAY HE LOST TO MCCAIN, AND THEN EVEN WORSE - TO FAILIN PALIN hahahhahahaha!

  • 3 votes
#1.89 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

kaybeetoys

How did Bush get to his ranch in Crawford, Texas from Washington D.C. Brianb?

He spent more time there than any other president in U.S. history has spent away from the capital.

Did he ride his bike?

Bush couldn't eat a pretzel and watch TV at the same time so riding a bike would not be recommended for him

  • 3 votes
#1.90 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

I am amazed daily by the number and size of the hypocritical lies of the GOP.

They want regulatory reform, until the black Democratic President gives them regulatory reform.

Delegates throwing peanuts at black camera operators and telling them "this is what we do to animals"

The GOP is just a sick, sick, sick group of people. The presidential candidate making birther jokes. At least John McCain had the class to tell the party to cut that out when he was running for President.

I really do hope the GOP purges itself of the extremists after they lose this election. The USA is supposed to be a land of opportunity for all groups, tolerant of change and progressing to the future. If the GOP gets in control, they'll lead us to the '20's, the 1520's.

  • 4 votes
#1.91 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

I strongly encourage everyone to read the comments left by "to the top" and "brianb" to fully understand what the "tea" party is all about. Little brian doesn't seem to get that when you use tactics invented by the KKK, people generally consider you to be a racist.

  • 2 votes
#1.92 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

America take heed, when a president can simply give a speech or write a memo and change the law to do what the law says he can’t, we weaken our republic.

And does Mr. Santorum think that the republic is strengthened when he lies about what the President did? Does he not have any responsibility himself to tell the truth?

  • 2 votes
#1.93 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

And does Mr. Santorum think that the republic is strengthened when he lies about what the President did? Does he not have any responsibility himself to tell the truth?

It literally is the lack of truth in the GOP which makes me sick. I voted for Republicans before, even as recent as the 2008 elections. But no more. Not until I hear something truthful or those who ignore liars in their own party to step up and call out those liars. Maybe someday but not for a while I am sure. These "new" Republicans not only figure the ends justify the means, they will actually ruin lives or worse to make those means the end...

There's liars in the Democrats too, but it's no where near taken to a fine art like in the GOP. The ghost of Nixon is alive and well in the GOP.

  • 2 votes
#1.94 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:25 PM EDT
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OMG

CC just GAVE us Breyers? That explains SO much!

Did he just blame his mom for his lack of class?

That seems harsh. And he just juxtaposed and undermined Annie's "love" message, too.

This is such a comment rich environment.

  • 27 votes
#2 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:39 PM EDT

here's an example of folks who need to start saying no:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/us/even-critics-of-safety-net-increasingly-depend-on-it.html?pagewanted=all

psst. wait for it,...here comes the shout out to Zuckerberg

here it comes

what? wait? he's not going to mention the cuts to education that were COVERED by philanthropy?

He's going to take credit for that? over 30 years? really? phony ass. oh here he goes; blame the teachers.

Yeah,...

  • 26 votes
#2.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:43 PM EDT

We will see if Ann manage to hide the probe enough to move women. Her's was the best speech. Unfortunately, I had to watch on CNN, they lost their way years ago ... we are CNN and you are not. Ari Fleischer ... yuck.

  • 10 votes
#2.3 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:14 PM EDT

While Mrs. Romney hit it out of the park, I suppose you must have been watching NBC's coverage of tonoght's speeches- because Artur Davis, former Obama camping co-chair, gave a brilliant speech.

And Christie did his usual, fabulous job.

Maybe the Canadian coverage is not so good.

  • 5 votes
#2.4 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:21 PM EDT

Ann was good but for me, Artur Davis, the man who introduced Obama at the DNC in 2008, gave the best speech.

Strange that MSNBC did not televise the RNC speech by Artur Davis, the man who introduced Obama at the DNC in 2008???? All the other stations carried it. No bias here at MSNBC.

Santorum sucked.

  • 5 votes
#2.5 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:22 PM EDT

NoJo ... CNN is American and there is not a Canadian edition ... and I am not in Csnada, nor am I Canadian. I have resided in many countries including yours.

  • 7 votes
#2.6 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:28 PM EDT

Of course, the welfare attack has been widely discredited, and there is still a work requirement for welfare. There also was limited crowd reaction to the attack, which has become a mainstay of the Romney campaign on the trail and in millions of dollars in television ads.

When even the Tea Party crowd stops cheering for your lies, you better go make up some new ones.

Obama/Biden 2012
The only sane choice

  • 31 votes
#2.7 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:57 PM EDT

no joe, no bo, nj

While Mrs. Romney hit it out of the park, I suppose you must have been watching NBC's coverage of tonoght's speeches-

No No No Jo

I think she did a terrible job of reading her teleprompter. Did you see MYTH pulling Mrs R-money's shirt as if to say--That's enough? The only thing I could see is that she loved her husband and their money.

because Artur Davis, former Obama camping co-chair, gave a brilliant speech.

How much money do you think the Koch bros paid Artur Davis to give that Benedict Arnold speech?


And Christie did his usual, fabulous job.

He sure did. I thought. He didn't break the platform. Gov Krispy Kreme was thinking of 2016 and all those flaky donuts he needed to get to behind the curtains before the platform fell apart.

Your governor never paid back that nice big , $271 million, bill he got from the federal government for the cancelled tunnel.

Big government lies AGAIN, No No No Jo ; huh?


  • 12 votes
#2.8 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:14 AM EDT

Even Charlie Crist can't stand this crowd.

  • 15 votes
#2.9 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:17 AM EDT
  • “Pick any other Republican in the country. He is the worst Republican in the country to put up against Barack Obama.”

~Rick Santorum, calling Mitt Romney the worse Republican anyone can possibly pick to be the nominee, Racine, Wisconsin, March 2012

  • 17 votes
#2.10 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:55 AM EDT

He's going to take credit for that? over 30 years? really? phony ass. oh here he goes; blame the teachers.

Yeah,...

You have all the info. WRONG. The people that are blaming the teachers are the REPUBLICANS, not the DEMOCRATS. And if you have not read about it, Mitt Romney is planning on cutting education even more. He needs more stupids to vote for the GOP.

The earth is flat, and Jesus was hanging out with men and dinaosaurs. RIGHT!!!

  • 8 votes
#2.11 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:11 AM EDT

Rick Santorum --- thrown out of office by the people in PA by more than a 2 to 1 margin.

  • 2 votes
#2.12 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:12 AM EDT

All those praising Ann's speech need to get a grip. I feel the pain of any family dealing with MS or cancer, like my own, but Ann and Mitt have the best health care money can buy, kudos to them. But let's not forget a lot of America that are either on the brink of bankruptcy due to health care costs or will be deciding to heat their homes or pay for treatment this winter.

The idea that Ann was trying to make her family look like a typical American family was a bad joke.

  • 7 votes
#2.13 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:30 AM EDT

A really bad joke since Queen Ann can access the best care and pay for the meds necessary for MS, some of which, are very expensive.

That she is not out there, fighting to make sure that ALL Americans can have the health care she has is indicative of the selfishness of her character.

  • 8 votes
#2.14 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:41 AM EDT

I have MS and with insurance my co-pay was $1350 per month. Thank goodness the medicine's manufacturer has a patient assistance program otherwise I would not be able to afford my medicine. The medicine that keeps me able to work and function and keeps me off of welfare and medicaid. I also can't afford a "therapy horse" that can double as an olympian. She writes off $77000 for the horse, I don't even make that in a year!!

But as far as the republicans are concerned--who gives a sh!t about me. If I lose my insurance without the ACA I would never be able to get coverage (pre-existing) and if I could the premium would be so exorbitant that it would be cost prohibitive.

So yeah Ann Romney has MS just like me, but she will never suffer the way that I do.

  • 10 votes
#2.15 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:40 AM EDT

Andie...and you have PERSONALLY seen the tax forms of the Romenys and you SAW for yourself that she writes off $77,000.00 for the horse she owns 1/3 of.

Do you really think that Obama and his wife with her $600.00 sneakers going to Hawaii that my house is now worth 1/32 of what it was in 2009 and the taxes have gone up 35% This situation is not even in their realm of thinking.

  • 1 vote
#2.16 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:10 AM EDT

Sorry about not catching the error...my house is worth 1/2 what it was in 2009 according to my tax forms from the county.

  • 1 vote
#2.17 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:18 AM EDT

COCO

It's in Romney's 2010 income tax return he released (the only one he has released). $77,000 deduction for therapeutic reasons (medical deduction). It has been widely covered in the media.

He also listed assets in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland on this tax return. He paid an amazingly low rate on the Cayman income 2.5%. 13.9% overall.

  • 2 votes
#2.18 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:25 AM EDT

iRespond,...you should re-read my post for sarcasm.

I am well aware that Christie cut hundreds of millions from education in Jersey. My point was that he never thanked Zuckerberg for the donation that allowed him to make that 'tough' call.

Plus,...he never acknowledged his own partaking of the stimulus money, or the fact that he cancelled a contract and pocketed the federal matching money.

The guy is a hateful, classless slob; but I sure hope he gets the Repub nomination in 2016.

  • 1 vote
#2.19 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

CoCo-1551796

Andie...and you have PERSONALLY seen the tax forms of the Romenys and you SAW for yourself that she writes off $77,000.00 for the horse she owns 1/3 of.

Uh.....YES. Clearly you haven't a clue. Any more brilliant questions?

  • 1 vote
#2.20 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:06 PM EDT
Reply

If marriage is disappearing, maybe the religious right should stop cheating on their wives.

  • 50 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:47 PM EDT

Or better yet support marriage equality.

  • 22 votes
#3.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:19 AM EDT

Yeah, kind of funny to moan about marriage "disappearing" and in the next breath deny people who want to get married the right to do so.

  • 25 votes
#3.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:24 AM EDT

Someone please shut the hateful pig Beverly up. One, her posts are ignorant, and two, racist, and three, incoherent. Maybe she shouldn't booze it up and snort her coke before she tries writing. By the way, where are all the jobs George Soros is creating for the lazy ass libbies? Look to China, you hypocrites!! C'mon, Beverly, get your fat ass off the couch, grab your fat lesbian sister, Feisty, and take one of those Chinese jobs George is creating for you. Or continue to be a laughable dumb ass.

  • 4 votes
#3.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:15 AM EDT

At least with Mitt Romney's money he won't have to knuckle under to the likes of George Soros and Valerie Jarrett to make his decsions. He does not need their money. Sorors and Jarrett call the shots, don't fool yourself.

Kenva..please do not stoop to the filthy name calling of Beverly and Feisty. these gutter snipes are not worth your time. Go back and read the foul venous sadistic readings ...pure gutter.

  • 2 votes
#3.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:17 AM EDT

Coco...

Kenva..please do not stoop to the filthy name calling of Beverly and Feisty.

...and then...

these gutter snipes are not worth your time. Go back and read the foul venous sadistic readings ...pure gutter.

...and all of this is in defense of:

lazy ass libbies

fat lesbian sister

laughable dumb ass

...and little coco sits in a tizzy wondering why people think he/she is a total hypocrite. It is not very intelligent to attempt taking the moral high ground on something you then proceed to do, coco...not to mention that you sympathize with the hateful bigotry that kenva barfs out.

Isn't there a cross burning that you morons should be attending?

  • 2 votes
#3.5 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:44 PM EDT
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Here's an observation. After years of being a member of the christian church and hearing mormanism is a cult preached from behind the pulpit. The choice for the religious right in this election comes down to the N, or the cultist. Guess who they're gonna vote for;)

  • 10 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:48 PM EDT

Not to pile on, but don't forget the other part of the RNC ticket - the VP candidate, a Christian who reserves his highest admiration for a Russian atheist/hedonist (Ayn Rand). Think the Christian Right will overlook that too? (Of course, because it's not really about faith, it's about getting rid of that black president).

  • 27 votes
#4.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:34 AM EDT

SoNotRight.

Not to pile on, but don't forget the other part of the RNC ticket - the VP candidate, a Christian who reserves his highest admiration for a Russian atheist/hedonist (Ayn Rand). Think the Christian Right will overlook that too?

Oh no, they didn't. That's why Paul Ryan's new slogan is Ayn Rand who? He claims now that he knows a little about her but doesn't really know what she stands for. Another lying hypocrite.

  • 11 votes
#4.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:10 AM EDT

That 's not what he said when he was interviewed. Ryan acknowledge Rand's being an atheist and her view on government and stated he wasn't an atheist but a Catholic and he didn't agree on her view point of government. What he talked about was being motivated by her books Atlas Shrugged and Fountainhead. I read both of these book and thought they were great but I don't consider myself an atheist.

It's alright by the left that Obama grew up being influence by a Communist Davis and Bill Ayers and you give Obama pass but not Paul Ryan. Who is the true hypocrite.

    #4.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:16 AM EDT

    These stupid right wing religious extremists would vote for Charlie Manson or Jim Jones before they would vote for a black man. The surprise they are in for is that Romney is simply pandering to these ignorant single issue voters and no one really knows where Romney really stands on the issues.

    • 4 votes
    #4.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:54 PM EDT

    so...gideb gets to pick and choose what parts of Rand's philosophy to be inspired by, but no one else can do the same with anyone else? Interesting.

    Perhaps gideb should look up the word hypocrite and do a minimum amount of soul searching.

      #4.5 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:01 PM EDT
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      I see a theme of "personal" stories from each of the speakers. Nothing about Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan and what "they" are going to do. We are listening to speaker after speaker tell us that they have pulled their states out of the bottom (no mention of any stimulus money used?) and somehow we are supposed to believe that the Romney/Ryan ticket is going to give us anything more than the continued "war on women and reproductive rights", or the complete gutting of ALL social services including welfare, food stamps, public education, health care for all but the wealthy. Dismantling of all UNIONs - elimination of regulations for financial institutions or the abolishment of departments like the EPA or Education for goodness sakes.

      I say, if you vote for this ticket - Be very careful what you wish for...

      Something scary this way comes...

      Me--I am still waiting for the promised jobs from 2010!

      • 36 votes
      Reply#5 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:57 PM EDT

      @BethanyB Me--I am still waiting for the promised jobs from 2010!

      According to the BLS, unemployment at the end of 2010 was 9.4%. Now it is 8.3%. The total workforce is 155 million. 1.1% times 155 million is 1,705,000 jobs created after the Republicans took over the House.

      Wait no more Bethany - there they are!

      • 10 votes
      #5.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:02 PM EDT

      Where is the vision, where is the focus. All I hear is attacks. I don't hear what they are offering.

      • 32 votes
      #5.2 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:07 PM EDT

      Reclassified jobs account for many of your number and the rest of are at minimum wage mostly part-time no benefit positions. Sure -- I will almost say your correct - but - how come it is the only HOUSE that gets the credit and not the Admin (read Obama)?

      • 19 votes
      #5.3 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:13 PM EDT

      ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • 2 votes
      #5.4 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:14 PM EDT

      If your waiting for a story, then I guess horror, is your bag! Romney(the flipper) has no story. He is made of dung, from the sewer, and ryon his attact dog, has to ride on the roof of romney's car. NOW that's a picture to keep. After ryons persons bill, he is now sitting in his crap!

      • 19 votes
      #5.5 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:18 PM EDT

      Kannin

      According to the BLS, unemployment at the end of 2010 was 9.4%. Now it is 8.3%. The total workforce is 155 million. 1.1% times 155 million is 1,705,000 jobs created after the Republicans took over the House.

      show me one piece of legislature that would give Republicans credit for this!

      • 4 votes
      #5.6 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:11 AM EDT

      Well, gee, Bethany, how many jobs has Obama sent your way? You want to wait 4 more years? Look in the mirror, dear. That's a moron looking back at you, if you plan to vote for Barry again. He doesn't know how the economy was built. How would he know how to fix it? He's just a big bag of wind.

      • 2 votes
      #5.7 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:18 AM EDT

      I live in VA and we got plenty of Government Money. Mostly Military, which is one of the reasons we have a low unemployment rate that by passed the recession.

      • 1 vote
      #5.8 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:15 AM EDT

      Bethany you cannot see the promised jobs of 2010 until HARRY REID brings even ONE of the 32+ jobs bills on his desk to the floor of the Senate. I would like to see even one of these bills. ??What is in these bills that Reid is AFRAID to bring to the floor? Is he afraid it will pass and he will look like a fool? Why has Obama not publicly chastised Reid for hiding the bills on his desk?

      My question is: how did the leader (any leader) get the power to keep bills on his desk and not even bring them to the committee let alone the floor?

      • 2 votes
      #5.9 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:28 AM EDT

      The reason is that not one of the bills you speak of were actual Jobs bills. The problem for you lying right wing tea baggers is that there is this here new fangled machine called a computer. When hooked up to the Internet a person can look stuff up so your lies become exposed.

      • 1 vote
      #5.10 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

      Isn't it cute when the simple-minded think that Republicans are attempting to pass legislation that will effect jobs? Just because you call it the "Job Creating Vaginal Probe Bill" doesn't mean that it will actually create jobs.

      Harry Reid is chastised and yet little coco gives Mitch McConnell a free pass. Someone's been drooling in front of the foxy-notsy news channel a bit too much, I think...

        #5.11 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:05 PM EDT
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        Obama doesn't realize that just receiving government handouts, won't automatically make people Democrats. You see, it's not just the rich that vote conservative, its the people that want the chance to better themselves that vote Republican.

        Of course there still will be poor who are content to remain just where they are for the rest of their lives. They will vote liberal; and the liberals, of course, want them to stay poor, so they will keep voting for Democrats. Hopefully they will not be numerous enough to throw the election to Obama.

        • 8 votes
        Reply#6 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:57 PM EDT

        Is it bad when big oil receives govt. handouts??? What about when Chris Christie gets them??? What about when Halliburton gets them???? Are those govt. handouts okay?

        • 31 votes
        #6.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:35 PM EDT

        Sorry even Karl Rove was quoted as sayig the moe education a person has the more likely to vote democratic. And if you want to talk handouts you need to get your numbers straight. 67% of federal aid (foodstamps, welfare, disability) goes to states that vote overwhelmingly republican. It seems it is the republican base that wants to stay where they are, uneducated, poor and voting for the republicans to keep them there.

        • 29 votes
        #6.2 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:44 PM EDT

        On this point, I am rather amused at the passion with which so many talked about their grandfathers and fathers working hard and making a better life for their children, of the upward mobility which used to be part of American life, and doesn't seem to exist any more. Oh, they all want that back so badly!

        And of course, if you know your history, what they're referring to is the New Deal years, when government policy made it harder for business to exploit the desperation of the American citizen, which led to 50 years of stable economic growth driven by that new upward mobility (of their grandfathers) into the middle class. Of course, those are the policies which came under sustained and vicious attack by republicans in the '80s, who succeeded in replacing it with 'trickle-down' economics.

        I'm with the republicans. I also want to go back to a time when hard work could improve your condition. Bring back the New Deal.

        • 4 votes
        #6.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:38 AM EDT

        Dean P. Lacy, a professor of political science at Dartmouth College, has identified a twist on that theme in American politics over the last generation. Support for Republican candidates, who generally promise to cut government spending, has increased since 1980 in states where the federal government spends more than it collects. The greater the dependence, the greater the support for Republican candidates.

        Conversely, states that pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits tend to support Democratic candidates. And Professor Lacy found that the pattern could not be explained by demographics or social issues.

        www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/us/even-critics-of-safety-net-increasingly-depend-on-it.html?pagewanted=all

        • 6 votes
        #6.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:09 AM EDT

        Snakebone,

        Don't forget that during that period the tax rate for the top was between 70 & 90%.

        Yes, lets go back to those days.

          #6.5 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:51 AM EDT

          People who are poor are much less likely to vote. Democrats want to help these poor people have a better life. That is why the earned income tax credit was expanded under Bill Clinton. It helps no one to have people remain out of work on welfare. But the reality is that they need help to make a low paying job meet the costs of childcare and housing and food and the earned income tax credit helped make their working more practical. It helped and continues to help in getting people get off welfare and lower income families to be able to make ends meet. It helps keep them in the work force by helping work make sense when they look at their household budgets. This is also the reason why Democrats consistently want to raise the minimum wage. This also helps the working poor see some additional rewards from working. It provides added incentive to get off of welfare to work. It is the first step in the economic ladder.

          The Republican answer has always been to build more prisons to house all the desperate people who commit crimes out of need. I am not justifying criminal behavior, but am just trying to present a realistic assessment of the problem with the poor and their entry into the work force.

          The average welfare recipient (family of 3) only gets $350 per month in income. Food stamps add an additional $250 per month. The number of people on welfare has not grown during Obama's Presidency. People are only eligible for it for two years and there is a work requirement. States have limited its growth by tightening eligibility requirements.

          Welfare is only an issue now because Romney is pursuing that old "welfare queen" strategy. He has lied about the work requirement which hasn't been gutted, but actually has been strengthened at request of some Republican governors. But he is trying to get his base riled up and he will lie to do it.

          What else will he lie about?

          Romney is a LIAR and cannot be trusted.

          • 2 votes
          #6.6 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:50 AM EDT

          If you don't want government handout stop the following because it makes you look like 1 a fool and 2 a socialist.:

          1) If you make From $13,660 to $49,078 single to married, with zero to three qualifying children - DON"T CLAIM THIS EARNED INCOME CREDIT (EIC) It's a government subsidy

          2) If your children go to public schools - TAKE THEM OUT IMMEDIATELY. It's a government subsidy

          3) If your mother, father, grandmother, grandfather collects social security - Tell them to give back every dime they ever taken minus the amount they paid into it. - It's a government subsidy

          4) If your mother, father, grandmother, grandfather currently have medicare and medicaid - Tell them drop it immediately. It's a government subsidy.

          5) If you vote for Republicans nuts jobs who agree to give the corporations and oil companies billions of tax dollars- You are a socialist - It's a government subsidy.

          • 5 votes
          #6.7 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:09 AM EDT

          Sorry Kannin, But that club is closed to most of us

            #6.8 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

            Andie: Yep, and the rich still started big corporations and still got richer, which is why I laugh at the argument that if we roll back some of the massive tax cuts we gave them, the rich will all leave the country.

              #6.9 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

              Why is it that only the liars or the grossly misinformed are coming out in support of Miss Mittsy?

              Is there one, just ONE, informed, intelligent and honest person out there that can give us exact specifics as to what the mysterious Mittsy plan for America is?

              Judging from "his" supporters, I'd say that Miss Mittsy has no problem wallowing in the muck that lies beneath the bottom of the barrel.

                #6.10 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:14 PM EDT
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                Comment author avatarfedupwthisiteExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                I guess the talks were successful. The cockroaches are out in force.... You libs are getting scared when you hear people with values talk about what needs to be done and what a real leader could do. Keep it up. The coverage was funny.....libs sitting around a table trying to be impartial. Thanks God for Fox.....

                • 5 votes
                Reply#7 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:58 PM EDT

                not roaches, RATS,RATS,RATS!

                • 1 vote
                #7.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:13 PM EDT

                Nothing to fear from you losers. Your leaders have nothing to offer except hate for the man who led this country out of the mess Texass favorite son created.

                • 18 votes
                #7.2 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:36 PM EDT

                Values? What needs to be done? I didn't hear much of that, mostly just feel good crap or bashing Obama. Still no real coherent plan. I can't wait for the debates to see Romney get skewered!

                • 16 votes
                #7.3 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:47 PM EDT

                Successful, values, what needs to be done!?! Is that like Bush's "Mission Accomplished"?? No wonder nothing gets done in Congress, because the they don't know the difference between right and wrong even when the rose colored glasses are taken off. What will you Republicans say when the elite take the rest of the remaining jobs away.

                • 12 votes
                #7.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:00 AM EDT
                • “One of Governor Romney’s aides today on television said that Governor Romney, after he wins the primaries, will be like an [Etch A Sketch] — you take whatever he said and you can shake it up and it will be gone, and he’s going to draw a whole new picture for the general election.”

                ~Rick Santorum, Harvey, Louisiana, March 2012

                • 3 votes
                #7.5 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:56 AM EDT
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                Mr. Santorum said "thank god america still has a party that reaches out a hand to the unborn so that everyone can live the american dream." He is forgetting abouting the elderly in the future years that will have no dignity or american dream with a paper voucher. I know a gal going through some tough times and she receives some food stamps-however, she works more than 25 hours a week-which is a requirement to receive them. Mr. Santorum is showing why he isn't being nominated tonite-allthough Romney is not much better.

                • 22 votes
                Reply#8 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:00 PM EDT

                AMAN to this one!

                • 7 votes
                #8.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:12 PM EDT
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                Kannan and fedupwthisite

                Well--now that you have the "liberal" dig out of the way, what exactly is the Romney/Ryan ticket going to do?

                I understand that he is going to "undo" everything that Obama has done--that is a given. But, the continued war on "everything woman, minority and lower income" is JUST PLAIN WRONG! That is NOT what AMERICA stands for. Remember the separation of church and state in your answer!

                ps

                The 14 trillion dollars in debt will still be there, unless the Koch brothers make a donation to the deficit.

                • 24 votes
                Reply#9 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:05 PM EDT

                @BethanyB what exactly is the Romney/Ryan ticket going to do?

                Just as Romney was able to take failing businesses and return them to prosperity, he will do the same for our battered economy. He has produced innovative plans, but more importantly, he has produced plans that can actually be implemented and work.

                Unlike Obama's fumbling attempts to solve problems just by blindly throwing our money at them.

                For example, his energy plan: I especially like the fact that it returns the means of production to the ones who will benefit by efficient energy production – the states. Specifically:

                “States will be empowered to establish processes to oversee the development and production of all forms of energy on federal lands within their borders, excluding only lands specially designated off-limits;

                State regulatory processes and permitting programs for all forms of energy development will be deemed to satisfy all requirements of federal law;

                Federal agencies will certify state processes as adequate, according to established criteria that are sufficiently broad, to afford the states maximum flexibility to ascertain what is most appropriate; and

                The federal government will encourage the formation of a State Energy Development Council, where states can work together along with existing organizations such as STRONGER and the IOGCC to share expertise and best management practices”

                It will stop wasting our tax dollars on inefficient Federal bureaucracies - which is a major theme of all his plans to return our country to prosperity.

                • 4 votes
                #9.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:32 PM EDT

                Is Romney going to ship federal jobs overseas?? Is that the plan?? That will save a ton of money for sure. It's amazing how you eat that stuff up.

                • 17 votes
                #9.2 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:38 PM EDT

                Just how much effort and money do you think Alabama will throw into wind energy, they can't even build sewer systems. How vigorous do you think West Virginia or Montana will monitor their energy systems? West Virginia is coal country full of poor miners; mining interests would crush them in court and even if they didn't their tax base is piss poor and thinks Jaysus will fix the problem. Montana's is even smaller, it has two headed fish swimming in its river. Texas has little left to safeguard, it will never even try to compete with its oil interests, which will end up in any kind of state run organization at the helm making sure it does nothing whatsoever.

                • 11 votes
                #9.3 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:44 PM EDT

                Kannin

                State regulatory processes and permitting programs for all forms of energy development will be deemed to satisfy all requirements of federal law;

                I worked for the TX regulatory agency that oversees the oil and gas industry. The Feds ceded primacy to the state years ago. In fact, with the exception of federal lands, some air quality issues, and a few saltwater disposal issues, the states all govern their own drilling and production. As for the few issues I mentioned, the states can already get primancy if they meet federal regulations.

                This is a completely empty promise that addresses a problem that doesn't exist.

                • 6 votes
                #9.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:54 AM EDT
                Reply

                Kannin-I tend to vote for democrats, have for some republicans as well. I am a single mom with 2 kids, work 2 jobs, support myself and family and don't rely on handouts of any kind. I find your comments disgusting and kind of representative of how many republicans see the world. I am to the point where I can't stomach the views of the self righteous republican party anymore. Voting democratic this year-and I still wont need handouts and I also want to improve my standing in the world!

                • 33 votes
                Reply#10 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:08 PM EDT

                Rick, where's your birth certificate? Your dad, was an alien, so you must be too. Prove to us that you are an american?

                • 15 votes
                Reply#11 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

                He's a unborn sperm cell, run amuck!

                • 16 votes
                #11.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:14 PM EDT
                Reply

                Great night.

                Loved the convention.

                Mr President you need to reserve a uhaul.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#12 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:13 PM EDT

                Why? Are you moving?? Reserve it yourself. The President and family will be living at the White House until Jan 20, 2017

                • 20 votes
                #12.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:46 PM EDT

                say,

                Pretty delusional assertions... Obama had and wasted his chance to be president another four years...

                • 6 votes
                #12.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:30 AM EDT
                Reply

                Sanctimonious Santorum: forget marriage, we'd all be better off if he disappeared!

                • 9 votes
                Reply#13 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:13 PM EDT
                • “We can’t nominate such a weak candidate. I’d love to be able to get one-on-one with Gov. Romney and expose the record that would be the weakest record we could possibly put up against Barack Obama.”

                ~Rick Santorum, ABC, March 2012

                • 8 votes
                #13.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:57 AM EDT

                My dream debate would be Gingrich (such as he is) wiping the floor with Biden

                • 1 vote
                #13.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:39 AM EDT

                Wasn't Vice President Biden a member of the Senate when Newt was forced to resign as Speaker of the House, in disgrace, BY HIS OWN PARTY?? Yeah - I would LOVE to see Biden take down Newt.

                I've heard of "coo coo for cocoa"....but coco for coo coo????

                  #13.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:44 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Barack Obama:

                  Alias Barry Soetoro pawns himself as Barack Obama, the humanitarian, the POTUS, the campaign for hope and change. But we know better. Barry is a radical Marxist who was raised by Communist parents and Communist grandparents. His mentors were known Communists, his contacts in college were strictly Marxists supporters, Marxist professors and a group of Pakistani activists as stated in his book, “Dreams From My Father”.

                  Barack Obama, tell us about Frank Marshall Davis or Bill Ayers. Surely you remember Mr. Davis. After all, your mother knew him all too well. Mr. Ayers, a known terrorist, responsible for at least a dozen bombings, helped your early Illinois campaign by raising money, thru his organization Underground Weather. Tell us about your trip to Pakistan (’81) with Pakistani Wahid Hamid.

                  Share with us your ideals of socialism, after all you’re a member of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), referred as the “New Party”. Please tell us why you have been influenced by the writings of Karl Marx, the prelude to Communism. Share with us your association with Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Do you justify this man’s message by condemning our country by saying, “God bless America? No, God Damn America”? Was this a forethought supporting your belief in Marxism?

                  Are these the individuals who have inspired you to public office? Are these the individuals who have inspired you to plot against the United States? Are they the people for whom you’ve entrusted your Muslim faith?

                  Please tell us why you mocked the Holy Bible and Jesus’ sermon on the mount, calling the sermon a radical message. You have mocked Christianity and this country. Barack Obama, you have betrayed this nation and all its’ people. Your skin is dark because of your race, but your soul is more dark because of your deception.

                  United States of America………………you didn’t build it Barack Obama.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#14 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:15 PM EDT

                  Marxist? Communist? Socialist? Not hardly! Hell, he ran so hard and fast with the Bush/Cheney playbook on Homeland Paranoia his resume would make any decent neo-con proud.

                  Stein/Honkala 2012

                  • 8 votes
                  #14.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:27 PM EDT

                  i've got some bad news, the things you hear on Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh while you're scratching your face bloody in anger are fabrications meant to get you to stick around for advertisements so they can cash in. Saying the words Marxist, communist, socialist and Bill Ayers will not make him disappear no matter how often they are repeated, nor in what order.

                  • 22 votes
                  #14.2 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:33 PM EDT

                  Sweet a Bonnie Prince Charlie fan, whats up

                  • 3 votes
                  #14.3 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:35 PM EDT

                  Just tryin' to make my way in the modern world Todd! Cheers mate.

                  • 2 votes
                  #14.4 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:41 PM EDT

                  top drum, you are so full of crap I had to respond. A president and all his minions couldn't turn America Commie or socialist or any other radical bull you're spewing. You supposedly "religious" "Christians" on the right are liars and hypocrites. George retard Bush Screwed this country harder than anyone in history. Jammed the patriot act up our ass denying us more of our rights than anyone in history, and you ignorant buffoons just keep lying and lying. Pres Obama IS going to win because the Republican Party has become insane. Practice your Christianity, which clearly teaches compassion. Liar.

                  • 27 votes
                  #14.5 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:47 PM EDT

                  Sometimes the world seems like a big hole. You spend all your life shouting down
                  it and all you hear are echoes of some idiot, named Top Drum yelling nonsense down
                  a hole.

                  • 9 votes
                  #14.6 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:48 PM EDT

                  Its amazing how so called Christan's in the GOP can just tell lie after lie. Which tells they are not Christan's. Here a bit of fun for you all,

                  The beast (666) is upon us, FOX news F=6, O (15th letter) 1+5=6, X(24th letter) 2+4=6. Fox = 666

                  Revelations tells us the beast has 7 heads and 10 horns and 10 crowns which equal 27. If Romney is elected he will be the 27th elected Republican president. (Remember the Democrat- Republicans and the Whig Parties both turned into the Republican Party). FOX (Murdock) also owns 27 television stations in the USA.

                  Revelation 13:11 And I beheld another beastcoming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

                  Bain Capital (Romney’s Baby) Owns Clear Channel which owns866 radio stations and Premiere Radio Networks, a national radio network that serves nearly 5,800 radio station affiliates and has over 213 million weekly listeners. Programs include the Rush Limbaugh Show, Glenn Beck and the Sean Hannity Show (Revelation 13:11 and he spake as a dragon)

                  Just maybe there is somthing else going here!

                  Christains for Obama/Biden 2012

                  • 12 votes
                  #14.7 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:01 AM EDT

                  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, we're DOOMED!.........................Sorry, I panicked there for a moment.

                  • 3 votes
                  #14.8 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:06 AM EDT

                  American,

                  Care to defend then why Obama adopted and even added to the Patriot Act? If he is such an opposite of Bush, then why is he like a twin when it comes to the Patriot Act? Obama had every chance to cancel the Patriot Act and yet what did he do? Perhaps you need to rewrite your recollection of history to fit the facts instead??

                  • 5 votes
                  #14.9 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:06 AM EDT

                  Time to get Top Drum back on those anti-psychotic drugs.

                  That you buy the Socialist, Marxist LIE about Obama is an indictment of your intellect. I joke about the drugs, but I cannot see how you can continue to recite such dribble when Obama has returned the auto industry with the help of consumers to profitability. That is not Marxist. The stock market has doubled during Obama's term. That is not what would have happened if he is a Marxist. Even the rocket program of NASA has been privatized, the opposite of what a Marxist or Socialist would have done.

                  It's way past time to drop your paranoid ranting and read some books. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

                  • 2 votes
                  #14.10 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:41 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  With Mr. Santorum being such a religous person, why did he say those things about President Obama gutting welfare working rules when it's been proven that that claim was false?

                  Isn't bearing false witness against one of the 10 commandments?

                  Won't his soul go to hell when he dies?

                  All these speakers talking about the problems facing our nation, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT THEY WOULD DO TO CHANGE ANYTHING!!!

                  We should just shut-up and believe them??? I DON'T THINK SO!

                  • 27 votes
                  Reply#15 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:17 PM EDT

                  Its amazing how so called Christan's in the GOP can just tell lie after lie. Which tells they are not Christan's. Here a bit of fun for you all,

                  The beast (666) is upon us, FOX news F=6, O (15th letter) 1+5=6, X(24th letter) 2+4=6. Fox = 666

                  Revelations tells us the beast has 7 heads and 10 horns and 10 crowns which equal 27. If Romney is elected he will be the 27th elected Republican president. (Remember the Democrat- Republicans and the Whig Parties both turned into the Republican Party). FOX (Murdock) also owns 27 television stations in the USA.

                  Revelation 13:11 And I beheld another beastcoming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

                  Bain Capital (Romney’s Baby) Owns Clear Channel which owns866 radio stations and Premiere Radio Networks, a national radio network that serves nearly 5,800 radio station affiliates and has over 213 million weekly listeners. Programs include the Rush Limbaugh Show, Glenn Beck and the Sean Hannity Show (Revelation 13:11 and he spake as a dragon)

                  Just maybe there is somthing else going here!

                  Christains for Obama/Biden 2012

                  • 5 votes
                  #15.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:02 AM EDT

                  Santorum is prone to lying. I am a lifelong Pennsylvania resident and after 6 years of having him represent us in the Senate we gave him the boot.

                  I'm sure if he had an honest moment, he would say he LIES for a higher purpose.

                  He is now a rich man, yet he billed the school district in his home town in PA for the expensive on-line home schooling ($160,0000) his kids got in Virginia. Working the system for his own benefit did not sit well with PA voters.

                  • 3 votes
                  #15.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:09 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  "Of course, the welfare attack has been widely discredited, and there is still a work requirement for welfare"

                  First Read committing journalistic malpractice...you liberal shills have no shame...

                  Dissing Santorum's speech at Axelrod's behest...I am sure if Santorum was more sharp in his criticism, the biased FR headline would be that he personally attacked Obama ...

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#16 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:17 PM EDT

                  So it doesn't matter at all to you that he's just standing up there lying?

                  And that everyone (even the GOP crowd) knows it?

                  Okay, the Republican campaign is starting to make more sense to me...sort of.

                  • 16 votes
                  #16.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:25 AM EDT

                  So, bob. I see you have given up trying to push your perverted governor as the VP pick. You can make your little comments about "liberal shills"...but you can't escape the fact that you are the biggest loser here today. Please - keep announcing your support for candidates and we will keep laughing as they drop like flies.

                  Time to go make some lemonade, little boy!

                    #16.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:54 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Freddie Fender said it best: "Wasted Days and Wasted Nights." I don't think the Republicans sold their candidate and his just standing there didn't help. As one commentator said, even his wife couldn't warm him up. What a waste!

                    • 17 votes
                    Reply#17 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:19 PM EDT

                    abortion is a lie and the Democrats know it.

                    It's not a life 'they say'

                    It's not my business 'they say'

                    Liars always obfuscate the issue; vote democrat and continue murdering the unborn!

                    Abortion is the ultimate in domestic violence!

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#18 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:20 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarMike Wicksvia Facebook

                    Take welfare/medicaid away and murder the living instead right? Have YOU adopted any unwanted children? Didn't think so!

                    • 21 votes
                    #18.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:36 PM EDT

                    Are you willing to support the babies that are born in to poverty because the mother couldn't get a legal abortion?

                    Didn't think so.

                    Hypocrite.

                    • 17 votes
                    #18.2 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:36 PM EDT

                    Matt-998651

                    Abortion is the ultimate in domestic violence!

                    ----------------------------------------

                    Nope, sending my son to fight for WMD's that didn't exist was, but don't let that bring you down off of your high horse.

                    • 27 votes
                    #18.3 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:40 PM EDT

                    Sometimes the world seems like a big hole. You spend all your life shouting down
                    it and all you hear are echoes of some idiot, named Mike Matt998651 yelling nonsense down
                    a hole.

                    Matt...They say that suicide is the ultimate self-criticism.....give it a try

                    • 6 votes
                    #18.4 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:50 PM EDT

                    If Democrats want to kill unborn children, you pay for it. Don't expect that I will. If you aren't willing to pay for it, shut your ugly face. Have all the abortions you want. But keep your filthy paw out of my pocket.

                    • 1 vote
                    #18.5 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:28 AM EDT

                    The Teapublications want to create more jobs. Like abortionist of old. A wire hanger in a back alley. That's what happened before Roe/Wade.

                    • 3 votes
                    #18.6 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:13 AM EDT

                    Kenva.. you might want to do a little research before you post. There are already federal laws on the books banning federal funds to be used for abortions.. So rest assured, your tiny little pocket is safe...

                    • 4 votes
                    #18.7 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:16 AM EDT

                    MickWick - I haven't adopted any unwanted children but as a taxpayer I support plenty of bas*ards children from irresponsible women who had unprotected sex knowing if they got pregnant they couldn't support their child without living of the government teats.

                      #18.8 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:27 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      Peggy Noonan: "Ann had a missed oportunity"

                      Wow

                      • 7 votes
                      Reply#19 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:22 PM EDT

                      I agree. The one thing that the crowd seemed to love was her example of a very liberal scholarship plan that he supported in Massachusetts. When she raised her voice to supposedly get enthusiastic she sounded quite fakey.

                      • 8 votes
                      #19.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:33 PM EDT
                      • “I heard Governor Romney here called me an economic lightweight because I wasn’t a Wall Street financier like he was. Do you really believe this country wants to elect a Wall Street financier as the president of the United States? Do you think that’s the experience that we need? Someone who’s going to take and look after as he did his friends on Wall Street and bail them out at the expense of Main Street America.”

                      ~Rick Santorum, Rockford, Illinois, March 2012

                      • 6 votes
                      #19.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:58 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      Just make and send out the bumper stickers and shirts with "Romney and Ryan lie, they don't want you to know the truth....The more you know them the less you will trust them"

                      • 15 votes
                      Reply#20 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:25 PM EDT

                      Romney's campaign slogan: "What you don't know won't hurt me."

                      • 13 votes
                      #20.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:28 AM EDT
                      • “Can we drop a little bit of the pious baloney? The fact is, you ran in ’94 and lost. That’s why you weren’t serving in the Senate with Rick Santorum. The fact is, you had a very bad re-election rating, you dropped out of office, you had been out of state for something like 200 days preparing to run for president. You didn’t have this interlude of citizenship while you thought about what you do. You were running for president while you were governor.”

                      ~Newt Gingrich, NBC News/ Facebook debate, January 8, 2012

                      • 8 votes
                      #20.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:01 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      Romney's story;

                      NO TAXES

                      WAR ON WOMEN

                      WAR ON PEOPLE OF COLOR

                      did I mention no brains,oops bain.

                      WAR ON THE ELDERLY/AND THE POOR

                      ANTI AMERICA

                      oh yea MORMEN!

                      • 17 votes
                      Reply#21 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:28 PM EDT

                      Mormen...is that plural for Morman?

                      • 4 votes
                      #21.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:34 PM EDT

                      It's the new GOP - Mormen.

                      Because they ain't gonna have no Morwomen.

                      • 15 votes
                      #21.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:29 AM EDT

                      Hey Melvin, it's Morman you dip@!$%#. And get a brain, everything the Dumbocrats tell you isn't any truer than what the Repubs tell you. What a moron.

                      • 2 votes
                      #21.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:31 AM EDT

                      he meant "Mermen", a type of fish person. If you can catch one they flip flop around a lot.

                      • 8 votes
                      #21.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:52 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      RICK the DICK, population explosion, Realy needs to use birth control! I guess he has been trying to make his own country. Rick, just a few hundred thousand more, before you can call your clan, a country.

                      • 12 votes
                      Reply#22 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:33 PM EDT
                      • “Running a business is not the same as being president of the United States.”

                      ~Rick Santorum, CNN, March 2012

                      • 5 votes
                      #22.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:59 AM EDT

                      So true he's running the whole country and has to be invested what's going on overseas. What has rich Rick Santorum done except vote for two wars under Bush and try to invade women's rights to healthcare.

                      • 1 vote
                      #22.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:06 AM EDT

                      What is all the Santorum bashing about? he was given a token slot by the RNC...not Romeny...and he is NOT an public official. Discuss something/someone that matters...Eric Hold, Joe Biden, Emanuel, Pelosi, Reid, security leaks, Fast and Furious etc. Santorum is a has been that shall not return. The voters have spoken.

                      • 1 vote
                      #22.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:53 AM EDT

                      Okay, coco, since you are so concerned about important things, here's a question about ethics and integrity for you:

                      Mr. Anal Lube repeats the "No Work For Welfare" lie that Williard endorses. And Willard repeats, every day on TV.

                      Why? Everyone knows it's a lie, except perhaps the republican base. So why would they keep repeating it? What are they saying to their base?

                      • 1 vote
                      #22.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:40 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      This man is a thief. He sent his kids to a cyber school while living in DC, that the taxpayers of PA payed for. I repeat, the man is a thief. This is one of the reasons he was not re-elected. The man is a thief. He is also crazy.

                      He is a crazy thief. There the worst kind you know.

                      • 11 votes
                      Reply#23 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:34 PM EDT

                      A chicken in every pot... a good paying job for every unemployed.., a savior of health insurance for everyone.. will bring back the good jobs with good pay to this country again.. will rid the deficit and dependency on oil imports.. will free Wall St of regulations.... -Romney and friends will really transform America back to it's glory days at last. How can you not vote for him and his future preacher friend from PA. !!!!!!

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#24 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:37 PM EDT
                      • “Governor Romney supported the bailout of Wall Street and decided not to support the bailout of Detroit.”

                      ~Rick Santorum, Detroit, Michigan, February 2012

                      • 7 votes
                      #24.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:00 AM EDT

                      Big Lou ...

                      That's right on, holy crap we are saved! :-) One of the real heroes in the historical pantheon of GOP 'gods' was Herbert Hoover. In the free and easy run-up of the economy with the totally unregulated Wall Street boys and Banks in the 1920s, old Herbert Hoover actually had the audacity to proclaim in his 1928 Presidential campaign..."I promise every American citizen a chicken in every pot!" Less than one year later there was not one miserable American who even had the pot. 'The Romney / Ryan Corporation' is a slick take on that mantra with their totally unbelievable diatribe and drivel. Their only agenda is to finish 'privatizing' and 'vouchering' virtually everything in sight to insure another tsunami of profits to their uber-rich cronies in Big Oil, insurance corporations, the Wall Street 'casino boys', the global financial houses and the military /industrial complex that Tricky Dick Cheney and Co. used to drain the US Treasury with two needless wars. Mitt 'the magic underwear man' and bible-thumping 'Little Eddie Munster' Ryan are nothing but schills for the Koch Brothers and their uber-rich ilk who already control most of the power and wealth in the nation, but that's not enough ... they want 100% and it's going to come from the backs and the sweat of the working poor and the struggling middle class. These guys are wolves in sheep's clothing and are a clear and present danger to the futue of the nation .. period. Thank you for your post, have a nice evening.

                      Peace ~

                      • 6 votes
                      #24.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:15 AM EDT

                      True an unemployment rate of 4.7% would be bad, that is why Obama likes his 8.3% so much better, what a fantastic job he has done.

                      The wall street banks were give loans from Freddy Mac, and Fanny May which backed the loans) because the banks knew they were hi risk, and would not give them otherwise. GM on the otherhand was poorly run, and should have declared bankurptsy and would have come out of it a better company, but Obama wanted to keep the Unions in Power, so he used Billionns of taxpayer money to purchase GM stock at $53, (now worth about half that) and gave the unions a stake in the company. At taxpayer expense. Needlsess to say it was a raw deal for the taxpayers.

                      Hoover had a democratic Congress before he even ran that changed the laws governing stock market purchases. That lead to the buying on margins, (just like the Democratic home loan law passed in 07 tjat lead to the Home mortage recession) People just walked away. Hoover got the blame for Congress mistake. Lean from History.

                        #24.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:46 AM EDT

                        Romney is NOT either George Bush and he is also not Ronald Reagan. If you are actually really paying attention you will see his plans and policies are different...just like Obama is NOT a Bill Clinton. Paul Ryan is NO Joe Biden!

                        • 1 vote
                        #24.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:59 AM EDT
                        Reply

                        They love the unborn but once they're born, look out. I wonder how much money he's put into orphanages or how many foster children of cracked out mothers he has under his roof. Hmmm? Didn't think so.

                        • 19 votes
                        Reply#25 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:39 PM EDT

                        Yeah, love the unborn, but they sure can't eat off food stamps once they're here!

                        • 16 votes
                        #25.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:30 AM EDT

                        Well...at least they weren't murdered by their mothers, right?

                        • 2 votes
                        #25.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:15 AM EDT
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