Tuesday's theme seizes on 'You didn't build that' remark

Tonight’s theme at the GOP convention -- “We Built It” -- is a direct reference to President Obama’s “You didn’t build that” remark he made in Roanoke, VA on July 13. 

Republicans have argued that the line typifies Obama’s disdain for the private sector. An example from excerpts the Romney campaign released of Virginia  Gov. Bob McDonnell’s speech tonight:

“We need a President who will say to a small businesswoman: congratulations, we applaud your success, you did make that happen, you did build that! Big government didn't build America: You built America!”

Democrats point out that the line was taken out of context – in a discussion about how no one achieved success on their own. In fact, they have argued that “You didn’t build that… Somebody  else made that happen” was referring to the roads and bridges that preceded the comment, not someone’s business. Here's what Obama said:

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.  There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.  Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.  Somebody invested in roads and bridges.  If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that.  Somebody else made that happen.  The Internet didn’t get invented on its own.  Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.


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"We Built It"

They need to erect a HUGE neon sign right under their debt clock prop!

They should be LOUD & PROUD of what they created....

I will give the right wingers credit, they have perfected the art of taking a single statement out of context and beating it to a slow, bloody death!

Talk about masters of manipulation & their little sheeple eat it up!

  • 20 votes
#1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:26 PM EDT

That would be good to demonstrate the disaster that Obama and the Dems created. Good idea fisty. Then the repubs can discuss how they will correct this disaster just like they did with Carter's disaster (now the second worst president thanks to Obama).

You libbys don't get it since you are only takers, and not doers or givers. You have no idea what it takes to create a business. You never will because you have no motivation nor any sense of personal responsibility.

Whenever Obama goes off script you can see exactly what he really thinks.

  • 10 votes
#1.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

Leave it to RedSox to point out his incapability of comprehending more than one sentence in a context.

You libbys don't get it since you are only takers, and not doers or givers. You have no idea what it takes to create a business. You never will because you have no motivation nor any sense of personal responsibility.

And you want me to believe you know what it takes to create a business? You lack even basic understanding of economic principles (amongst other things). You sir, make me giggle.

  • 12 votes
#1.2 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

Xabie, you have no idea just how foolish what you wrote really is!!!!! LMAO

Thanks for the belly laugh.

libbys, so much fun to watch!

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

Xabie, you have no idea just how foolish what you wrote really is!!!!! LMAO

If what you regurgitate on these boards doesn't classify as "foolish", I'll take that as a compliment.

  • 12 votes
#1.4 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

I guess Mittens won't be taking tax payer money for his futile race for the Presidency! Because if he does, he didn't build his campaign.

  • 13 votes
#1.5 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

“We Built It”........

We built the deficit....Yeah!......We built the exclusionary policies of our party....Yeah!.......We built the high unemployment......Yeah!.....We build on ignorance and lies........Yeah!....

  • 16 votes
#1.6 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

That would be good to demonstrate the disaster that Obama and the Dems created.

Yeah, because on January 19, 2009 everything was just fine and dandy. No, it wasn't until January 20, 2009 that the economy went into the s***ter.

  • 7 votes
#1.7 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:48 PM EDT

The GNOP Built this:

MARCH OF THE HYPOCRITES

FEB. 20, 1989. The National Debt Clock is installed at Times Square, New York City by the Durst Organization. The U.S. debt is $3 Trillion.

SEPT. 2000. The National Debt Clock is turned off. A surplus has been created during the Clinton Administration.

JANUARY 2001 Bill Clinton leaves behind a $2 Trillion Surplus to the next president, George W. Bush.

SPRING 2001. The Bush Tax Cuts, supposedly temporary, are enacted.
JULY 11, 2002. The Bush Tax Cuts destroyed the Surplus. The National Debt Clock is re-started. The U.S. Treasury begins a new deficit.(See “Private Sector: Re-starting the Debt Clock”, N.Y. Times, July 14, 2002).

DEC. 2010. Republicans fight to extend the Bush Tax Cuts, although there is no
money to pay for them.

AUG. 27-30, 2012. Republicans have a replica of the National Debt Clock at the 2012 RNC Convention. Republicans are SILENT on when and what lead to re-starting of the Debt clock. (See “Reasons to Worry”, N.Y. Times, July 23, 2008.).

The above from a poster on another site......

GNOP can't bother with facts. THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

Show us the 1040's Mythe! What ARE you hiding?

  • 13 votes
#1.8 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

"We Built It"

They need to erect a HUGE neon sign right under their debt clock prop!

They should be LOUD & PROUD of what they created...

MYTH built losta debt outsourcing jobs. There is the Sons of Boss, money to dead squads

Romney, Marriott And Son Of Boss ---- For Dummies

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2012/08/08/son-of-boss-for-sons-of-you-know-if-marriott-did-it-did-romney/

Mitt Romney Started Bain Capital With Money From Families Tied To Death Squads

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/mitt-romney-death-squads-bain_n_1710133.html

=====================================================

Yup, that's right. Romney actually help make some land owners rich in El Salvador back when Romney was first starting Bain Capital.

"MYTH" Romney is a money hustler! His budget plan, tax cuts for the rich, they all only help make the rich richer and the rest of us and you people" will not be better off as "MYTH" continues to build more debt for the USA.


Massachusetts:

under Romney, Massachusetts had “$18 billion in debt — more debt per person than any other state in the country. In fact, looking at the entirety of Romney’s four years, Massachusetts ranked 47th out of 50 states in percentage of job growth. It had ranked 37th in the four years prior.

+============================================================+

So tell me how Romney is so good for the economy. Just think if MYTH would show his taxes we could all see just how much debt MYTH has built for US by not paying his fair share of taxes.

  • 7 votes
#1.9 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:07 PM EDT

MYTH: Should US your tax returns so righties will know to not a President who committed voter fraud; since they are so concerned about voter fraud .

It's Romney's Voter Fraud, Stupid

Romney's refusal to release his tax returns from any year prior to 2010, and especially his local state return from 2010, is about hiding evidence of a felony crime, as much or likely more than it is about hiding embarrassing details of off-shore bank accounts in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda, Switzerland, etc.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9397



  • 7 votes
#1.10 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:15 PM EDT

"We Built This"-- notice the "we". Does the GOP not grasp what "we" means? The debt clock needs a sign below that says "We Bush & the GOP Built that".

Now I know democrats will spend a good deal of money on their convention stage, etc. but I cannot resist asking if the stage in the pictures I've seen looks worth the $2.5 million it cost to build. Does it convey warmth and openness as intended or do all those big, medium and small screens distract the eye?

  • 5 votes
#1.11 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

I wonder if Romney will repeat his speech from the 2002 Winter Olympics opening ceremony, where he echoed some of those same sentiments:

"You Olympians, however, know you didn't get here solely on your own power. For most of you, loving parents, sisters or brothers, encouraged your hopes, coaches guided, communities built venues in order to organize competitions. All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them. We've already cheered the Olympians, let's also cheer the parents, coaches, and communities." - Mitt Romney

Please note that also I could have selectively edited these comments, I have presented the entire remark in full context.

Paul Ryan - The Deficit? I Built That!

  • 4 votes
#1.12 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

Dumbfux and Bev -- Still bashing romney I see. Guess that is all you have when you look at the guy occupying (at least when he is not setting new fund raising event records) the oval office and the damage he has done in his 3 1/2 years.

The hopey-changey thing won't cut it a second time. He is going to have to prove he should get another term. RCP show 62.8% of those polled believe the country is going in the wrong direction; unemployment has been above 8% for more than 3 years; the debt has been increased more by BO than any other president.

Can either of you give even a single reason that he shoud be reelected?

  • 3 votes
#1.13 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

[Tonight’s theme at the GOP convention -- “We Built It”...]

Yes, American taxpayers DID build it...including the Tampa Bay Times Forum, which was built with 62% PUBLIC FUNDS...your tax dollars at work.

Yeah, WE built that...

  • 6 votes
#1.14 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

"You libbys don't get it since you are only takers, and not doers or givers. You have no idea what it takes to create a business. You never will because you have no motivation nor any sense of personal responsibility."

Incorrect, Red Sox. That is a very ignorant statement. I am a liberal, and I own a business. I would not have been able to build my business, and support myself my whole life, and pay taxes to support my country, without the wonderful customers who needed my services. No one does anything completely on their own in our current world. Whoever said "No man is an island" was correct. It amazes me that there are people in our world who seem unable to comprehend that.

  • 4 votes
#1.15 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

Because the 62.8% is mostly the TPRepubs obstructionism causing us to go in the wrong direction. The vast majority of the country wants our govt to work together on solutions, but that will never happen as long as the radical TP'ers have a firm grasp on the throats of the republicans.

  • 3 votes
#1.16 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

Paul s, NY NY said,

"FEB. 20, 1989. The National Debt Clock is installed at Times Square, New York City by the Durst Organization. The U.S. debt is $3 Trillion.

SEPT. 2000. The National Debt Clock is turned off. A surplus has been created during the Clinton Administration.

JANUARY 2001 Bill Clinton leaves behind a $2 Trillion Surplus to the next president, George W. Bush."

From a Article

Debt Increased More Under Geithner Than Under Any Treasury Secretary in U.S. History

By Matt Cover
June 30, 2011

"Geithner, who reportedly may step down from his position soon, has overseen the accrual of more federal debt (in only 2.5 years) than every Treasury secretary combined from Alexander Hamilton to Nicholas Brady, who was Treasury secretary in October 1991 when the national debt reached $3.7 trillion.

Since then, the federal debt has increased by historically large amounts under each Treasury secretary since Brady but not to the level it is today under Geithner. The debt increases under those secretaries are presented below.

Nicholas Brady (9/15/88-1/17/93): $1,564,862,000,000.00

Lloyd Bentsen (1/20/93-12/22/94): $559,880,257,144.59

Robert Rubin (1/11/95-7/2/99): $815,560,432,731.13

Lawrence Summers (7/2/99-1/20/01): $109,651,004,604.88

Paul O’Neill (1/20/01-12/31/02): $677,930,718,549.89

John Snow (2/3/03-6/30/06): $2,040,609,369,491.81

Henry Paulson (7/10/06-1/20/09): $2,218,644,118,047.16

Clinton never left us with a "2 trillion dollar surplus" & the clock was never turned off as you can see from the above article!!

Your lying plain and simple!!!

Pathetic just pathetic...

The middle class can't afford 4 more!!

  • 2 votes
#1.17 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

bleary -- the gallup poll from january of this year says that 40% of Americans consider themselves to be conservative. where do the other 22.8% come from? liberals and independents.

your comments are really rather lame as i noted below as well.

  • 1 vote
#1.18 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

Feisty, look in the mirror. You didn't make that happen. Twinkies did.

    #1.19 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:59 PM EDT

    Interesting how the standard group of Obamabots never, ever hit any economic or financial article. They never appear when the topic is the crappy economy or how the Federal Reserve is looking to 'stimulate' the economy, they never post when the topic relates to how many are on welfare or how badly people are suffering under Obama. Nope, they only post when it is time to defend Obama by bashing anyone not of the Obamaworld.

    If they did post or comment on articles written about the state of the country financially or the national debt or issues truly germane to the well being of the country they would have to acknowledge how badly we are doing under Obama and they can't have that. Much easier to hit the First Read propaganda sites and either deflect blame away from Obama by calling republicans names, blaming Bush, playing the race card or whining about how badly Obama is being treated than to face facts about the consequences of his actions. I realize a scapegoat is needed to cover for Obama, but gosh, it sure does get monotonous hearing the same loop.

    • 2 votes
    #1.20 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:13 AM EDT

    My girl: Fact check! Oops, failed

    • 1 vote
    #1.21 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:58 AM EDT

    Here is Barack Obama's Main Accomplishments

    Barack Obama's Main Accomplishments:

    Signed the National Defence Authorization Act (NDAA) Bill into Law allowing any US citizen to Be Detained WITHOUT trial (A federal Court Blocked it in May because it Violates the Constitution, but Obama is not trying to get it UNBLOCKED!).

    He has Killed HUNDREDS of Innocent people (Including 3 American Citizens) in Pakistan and Yemen with Drone Strikes (He’s Ordered even more drone strikes than Bush!).

    The rate of National Debt under George Bush was Around $60 Billion a Month. Under Obama, it’s been $190 Billion a Month, so that would be Nearly $600 Per US Citizen (Thanks Obama!).

    Obama Care: Page 22. MANDATES, The Government will Audit Book of ALL Employers who Self Insure. Page 50, Section 152, Health Care WILL be Provided to ALL Non US Citizens, Illegal or otherwise. Page 126, Lines 22-25, Employers Must Pay for Their Part time Employees Health Care AND Their Families. Page 127, Lines 1-16, The Government WILL Tell you How much Money you can Make.

    Obama has By-passed Congress to Enable the DREAM Act (Unconstitutional to By-Pass Congress, and the Illegals he allowed to become Legal Citizens has Committed over 19 Murders and Over 142 Sex crimes).

    Obama Claims he Campaigned in 57 States (Maybe he wasn’t Born in this Country?).

    • 2 votes
    #1.22 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:27 AM EDT

    F6Zman: Don't post those tidbits, it doesn't make Obama look good and that's all that matters to his loyal supporters, how he looks and talks, what he actually does escapes them or else they don't want to look at those unsavory facts.

      #1.23 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

      His supporters really thinks it's cool when he flicks his little hands up and down when he comes down the steps of our helicopter or jet.

        #1.24 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:03 PM EDT
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        Will the journalists covering the convention inform viewers the hall it is being held in was built with taxpayer money?

        • 11 votes
        Reply#2 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

        Amy -- And taxpayers are using it. What's your point?

        (please check with kos for the correct answer to the question)

        • 4 votes
        #2.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

        No they will not report that! Something to do with paychecks!

        • 2 votes
        #2.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:56 AM EDT

        Billybob: Oh, got it! If you are republican it's ok to use taxpayers money, if a democrat it worthless people getting a hand out! I'll remember that on election day!

        • 1 vote
        #2.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:00 AM EDT
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        That would be good to demonstrate the disaster that Obama and the Dems created. Good idea fisty. Then the repubs can discuss how they will correct this disaster just like they did with Carter's disaster (now the second worst president thanks to Obama).

        You libbys don't get it since you are only takers, and not doers or givers. You have no idea what it takes to create a business. You never will because you have no motivation nor any sense of personal responsibility.

        Whenever Obama goes off script you can see exactly what he really thinks.

        • 7 votes
        Reply#3 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

        Is that why Romney's proposals will increase the deficit by over $300B?

        • 7 votes
        #3.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

        Hey amy the freeloader you've never paid taxes so what is your point. Feeding from the community trough moonbat.

        • 3 votes
        #3.2 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

        excuse me? The only people feeding at the public trough in my family happen to be proud Tea Partiers. Go figure.

        • 7 votes
        #3.3 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

        Amy:

        That's why the gullible are rooting for Romney. They have been told all liberals are on welfare and they believe it. They don't know how to fact check or use their common sense to tell TP fantasies from reality. And it's the catch phrase they've been told to use because a marketing guru told them it has the greatest impact on the low intelligence voters.

        And it worked!!! Cause Bob Jones chimes in right away and removes all doubt about his IQ.

        • 4 votes
        #3.4 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

        bleary...

        Naturally you mean whichever "low intelligence voters" are left over after the barrel full Mr. Obama already has in his pocket.

        • 1 vote
        #3.5 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:07 AM EDT
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        Let's see...three days of convention, three days of misdirection:

        Day 1 - "you didn't build that"

        Day 2 - "Obama took the work requirement out of welfare"

        Day 3 - "$716B slashed from Medicare"

        Luckily there aren't four days else they might have to actually present solutions for the nation's problems.

        • 14 votes
        Reply#4 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

        Ursula: You are such an opitimist. They would just repeat, repeat, repeat themselves. Repeating seems to make believers out of some people. Hum, I heard that before, it must be true!

          #4.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:05 AM EDT

          Yes we can, yes we can, yes we can and Party of NO, Party of No and Hope and Change, Hope and Change, and they have presented solutions, you just don't like them.

          • 1 vote
          #4.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:42 PM EDT
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          Tuesday's theme will be "You didn't built that." Wednesday theme will be "FEMA- you didn't build that either" as red state governors will be lining up at the trough.

          • 9 votes
          Reply#6 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

          Will Paul Ryan point to the Debt Clock during his speech and say "I built that"?

          After all Paul Ryan voted for the Bush tax cuts, the Bush Medicare expansion, No Child Left Behind, the 2008 stimulus package, TARP bailouts, the auto bailouts,and the 2009 stimulus.

          Madame Speaker, this bill offends my principles. But I’m going to vote for this bill in order to preserve my principles.” – Paul Ryan

          Paul Ryan - The Deficit? I Built That!

          • 3 votes
          #6.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

          TNSEVOL - I hate to break it to you but history CLEARLY shows that an increase in tax does NOT increase revenue....it lowers it. It may seem like an oxymoron, but it isn't if you truly understand how business and tax revenue work. More revenue is gained by providing tax cuts.

          He did not vote for the 2009 stimulus....get your facts straight. factcheck.org

          • 2 votes
          #6.2 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:52 PM EDT
          Reply

          The GOP feels it's important to maintain a simple, easy-to-understand theme of their recent talking points so the delegates know when to applaud.

          • 6 votes
          Reply#7 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

          Wow....what an intelligent remark. Is that all you can come up with? I guess so seeing that your messiah has completely failed in his first 4 years. With all of the important issues at hand, you seem to focus on the petty and unimportant. Sort of like Obama's 2012 plan....but he's pretty silent on the REAL issues. All of the lefties are screaming for Romney's plan....but have not asked for Obama's plan. Does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture?

          • 2 votes
          #7.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

          Chas...

          I've been reading this crap for years on Newsvine, where folks like to continually talk about the Republican Party's allure to "low intelligence voters"...over and over again.

          And if you counter that with a review of President Obama's voting blocs that he scored the highest with, you run the risk of being immediately labelled a "racist"...despite facts being facts.

          But "facts" also aver that in my state (Connecticut) in 2010, our new quite liberal Democrat governor won the election by about 6000 votes out of 1.13 million cast. In the six poorest cities in our state...and our cities are small...he won by about 75,000 votes....thus handing him the election without even looking into the votes of the six next poorest cities. He did not win a single municipality that calls itself a "town".

          Within 6 months he passed (thru an overwhelmingly Democrat legislature) the single largest tax increase in the history of our very heavily taxed state.

          So I guess what has happened in my state is that the "high intelligence voters" have all moved into the state's poorest communities and all those "low intelligence voters" have moved into the sleepy suburbs...or I guess that is what some would hope you'd believe.

          It's a conceited 'Bizarro World' political theater where up is down and down is up...at least that is how the more holier-than-thou liberal set sees themselves.

            #7.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

            There is never a response to the above. "Facts" are facts. So are voting patterns. Those 75,000 votes that went to Dannel Malloy in Connecticut in 2010...how ever many of them find themselves in a voting booth in November, will be pulling the levers with a (D) next to them, including the (D) with Mr. Obama's name next to it.

              #7.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:43 PM EDT
              Reply

              Deepwater Horizon - "We Built That!"

              Deepwater Horizon Explaion - "We Didn't Build That!"

              • 6 votes
              Reply#8 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

              Da...

              "We" were forced by a government, to "Build That" over a mile under the surface of the sea...had "we" been able to "build that" on Mother Earth...when the leak began, someone would have pointed and said "Look at that leak...let's fix it". And it would have been repaired.

              It is not the choice of oil companies to drill in places that make repairs to their equipment an impossible task. And every machine ever made does break at some point.

                #8.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:45 PM EDT
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                Obviously the Republicans will say and present whatever they think will appeal to voters then, as we know and have seen, just do whatever to serve "the money", their masters who dictate to them, while depending on the subterfuge, with the aid of the power, influence and mega-millions provided them, to con the people and manipulate public opinion. These are the same people who force moderates out and who go to great length to coerce and intimidate their “puppet” politicians to assure total unity behind “the money’s” interests. They are simply liars who without hesitation, as they are cocky confident with being emboldened by past cons, just appeal to the 99%s concerns and interests while completely committed to serving only the 1%. Their past twelve year history has clearly substantiated all of that.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#9 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

                In your opinion.

                  #9.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:46 PM EDT
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                  How can we trust Romney-Ryan to "fix" anything? Their concentration is on giving the people subterfuge and deceptively serving only the few. Saying that "big government" is at fault and is the cause of our problems is the deception and is the intentional cover-up of what actually needs to be fixed. Reducing government spending and the deficit are important goals but they aren't what caused our problems and focusing there won't ever solve the problems. What really caused our problems, in every case, is permissive, co-responsible politicians catering to "the money", their strong supporters, who exploit their advantages and who with run-away greed, gross dishonesty and self-indulgence caused repeated crises in savings and loans, banks, dot.coms, manufacturing, the mortgage, investment and financial industries, as well as corporate corruption (like Enron) and with very costly industrywide failures, always with 'the few" taking enormous gains and leaving the costs and lost jobs to the majority; that is simply obvious in any objective and rational view of what we have literally experienced. Romney, Ryan and the Republican / Tea Party are owned and controlled by "the money' and they are totally obligated to produce policies that serve only the 1%, which won’t ever help the 99%, no matter how rationalized.

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#10 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

                  Wow, the repubs are really grasping for straws. Totally taken out of context, but then again, I really don't expect the repub leaders to stick with the real issues. They are still in the "just say no" mode from this past year's do nothing congress. What a waste of time and golden pensions on these guys and gals from this congress. They should be fired and the whole lot of them replaced. An 8th grade class from our town would get more done.

                  • 8 votes
                  Reply#11 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

                  And the eighth graders might have a more valid opinion than yours.

                    #11.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:48 PM EDT
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                    Let the gimme libs continue to bite the hand that feeds them in their quest for ever more freebies. Government is funded by taxes which are generated by commerce from business since the beginning of time. That tax money funded all those things that Obama says we didn't build. Our government is not some self supporting entity with unlimited funds, they are spending money created by business. It's very simple, screw small business growth and less money is there through taxes for all the freebies. I own a small business and if you can't understand something this simple, than you can bite me.

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#12 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                    WTFYFF-

                    So as a small business owner are you okay that the return on your invested money is taxed as earned income, while the return on Romney's invested money is taxed at a lower rate as "carried Interest"?

                    Are you okay with large businesses using foreign tax shelters and tax loopholes to pay zero tax while you are taxed on the full amount of your income?

                    Are you okay with Romney saying "big business is doing fine.." while his tax cuts and deregulation plans are geared to help mostly bug businesses?

                    • 2 votes
                    #12.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

                    no one said it is self supporting and that is actualy Obama's point. nothing is done completely on your own. Business thrives with the support of others.

                    • 1 vote
                    #12.2 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                    According to Abraham Lincoln our government is "of the people, by the people, and for the people". That means we ARE the government. Therefore it does not seem to me that the goal is to eliminate the government, it is to govern in a way that benefits all of us. Isn't that the way of humanity, though? By operating as if we are separate from the government, we create a government that does not work.

                      #12.3 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

                      who has asked to get rid of the government, Heartlight? If you take time to read what our founding fathers wrote about "government", they were insistent that the larger the government, the more corrupt and powerful it would become. they were not against HAVING a government.....just a big government. John Adams, Samuel Adams, Th. Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, Ben Franklin and many many others were steadfastly OPPOSED to large government...and for very good reason. All we have to do is look at what we have allowed to happen and you can understand WHY they felt that way.

                      • 1 vote
                      #12.4 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:03 PM EDT
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                      He was not saying they did not build their companies. He just said (in context) the community, those before you and legislation helped you build your campany. Even other businessness litterally helped you build your company. And F.Y.I the United States was well into the crapper before Bush left office. So again how is this Obama's fault? Except for all the road blocks he has been hit with by those in congress unwilling to compromise to come to an aggreement both sides can live with. How about the republicans deal with real solutions as to how to fix the problem they created. Because the theory of "Tax breaks for the Weathly trickling down through society and then benefiting everyone" approach is why we have the deficiet we have now. And lets looks at actual facts. The welfare program ACTUAL DOES HAVE WORK requirements. Actual strict work programs, job fairs, and interview training. They actual have a requirement of how many hours a week you need to work and how long you can stay on welfare. Anyone who has taken Criminal Justice- Social welfare course would know that.

                      I believe the real issue is that the republicans do not have a solid candidate to support for president so they fabricate lies constantly. Romney has no real platform and no personality. He does and says whatever he believes he needs to to get someone to like him. The Democrates do not need to chip away at Romeny's character because he has done a great job of that himself.

                      Please answer this... How can you as a republican vote for someone who can not even stick with his core beliefs? He has stated with his own mouth in the past he supports pro-choice, supported the stimulus, for Regan, Was happy when Obama care was modeled after what he did in Michigan, weapons, taxes. Seriously who is this guy and how can you vote for him when he doesnt even know what he stands for?

                      Mitt vs Mitt

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                      Reply#13 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

                      Stop being brainwashed and diversify your sources. Listen to all and see who proves their point logically and with facts... real facts. Our news media outlets are completely in the tank for one side or the other. They are propaganda not news. Logic..... Better yet go fishing/spend time with family and tell every politician and news media source to go play their games with someone else's mind. You refuse to be manipulated. Enjoy life without their bs.

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                      #13.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:01 AM EDT

                      Actually im not brainwashed. I watch and learn from many sources. Cnn MSNBC, FOX, RNC. I look and listen to them all and will point out whn they have valid point. But the fact of the matter is Romeny is a terrible candidate for the regular person. The politicians and fortune 500 companies love him because they know he will believe whatever they tell him too. Mean while the rest of you will not reap any of the benefits that he is now standing behind. RNC is trying to display a picture of strong foundation person, when he has voted against everything that you all stand for!!! These words are from MITT ROMENY's OWN MOUTH. he has been for pro choice!!!! amoung other issues republicans are for. Face it Romeny is a moderate conservative at best. And it it pitiful that you all believe him

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                      #13.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:03 PM EDT

                      In the real world, your "fact of the matter" is your own opinion. Just because you state something does make it a "fact" for anyone other than you.

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                      #13.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:51 PM EDT

                      Actually it is FACT because I did not just make up anything and nor is it an opinion since it came directly from Mitt Romney's mouth. Just google Mitt vs Mitt video and see how every single platform he stands behind actual footage of the words coming out of his mouth and he turns around and goes against it. All footage directly from his mouth.

                      Cant be my opinion is he is caught on film stating these fact. So again not my opinion it is pure truth.

                        #13.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:21 PM EDT
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                        did any of you believe, before barry (and he simply was copying warren) that the corner drugstore or grocery store or hardware store or gas station owners where you grew up owed their success to the goverment? or did you think that those hard working folks earned what they had built.

                        few are looking for no government but many of us are looking for a much smaller, less intrusive model.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#14 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

                        I believe that courner store and drug store survived because of the support drom the community because with out loyalty their business would have been nothing. And i believe that is what the president meant. No one is trying to take away what they earned, but everyone shouls realise without loyalty and community support not business can survive.

                        Which is why every company especially small business rely, build on, and give perks to their repeat costumers. Loyalty campaigns, gorcery store with stock certain products if a repeat customer wants that specific product. Mailing coupons to customers, mailing list. Most business cater to those loyal customers

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                        #14.1 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

                        It's also encouragement to 'buy local' from your neighborhood business. Small businesses can't compete with WalMart, Target, Amazon, etc, so spend an extra buck or two to support your neighbor. You buy from them and they support the community.

                        Who built and maintain the roads your customers use to get to your business? Who protects your business from thieves and vandals? Who educates the cashiers, delivery people, etc that work for the business?

                        That's what Obama was talking about you ignorant poopyhead.

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                        #14.2 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

                        blearyhead -- how wonderful of someone from the tolerant left to again resort to name calling when a coherent argument is not available.

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                        #14.3 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:52 PM EDT

                        political -- so when you shop you always remind the business of the fine road and stoplight that makes their business possible.

                        you guys are unbelievable. you fail to give credit where credit is due. the best road in the world won't permit a business to survive. it takes hard work and dedication.

                        the president was caught in a remark that did nothing but bare his animosity to the common American. he does really believe that governement makes all things possible.

                        he needs to be voted out before any more damage can be done.

                        • 1 vote
                        #14.4 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

                        Well, who is helping the people in the Gulf today.......the feds. Yes, when a natural disaster strikes everyone expects the feds to come and rescue them. Let's stop bashing our government and admit how many times it is rescuing us. Hey, is't it even the national weather service who is warning us of disaster?

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                        #14.5 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:32 PM EDT

                        I'm so tired of hearing about small businesses and how the government is to help you. The reality is that small businesses are squeezed out by the big businesses. You know the big businesses who are running the GOP.

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                        #14.6 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:35 PM EDT

                        but linda you have the government to make you successful. They will protect you from large business. Democrats do not own any large businesses do they. Just the evil Republicans . You all are really wacked out. Do you all realize how stupid your arguments are..If you all give me 20% of everything you make I will do some really nice stuff for all of you too. Plus your property tax , sales tax, gas tax, fica, state tax, estate tax , well you know all the tax money you give . Just send it to me and I will be the nicest guy you could ever hope to know....... I will help you. Trust me.... Why do you trust any of them?? If you had all the money you give to government you could supply a lot of your own support network. Trusting in someone else with your money is a fools game.

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                        #14.7 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:19 AM EDT
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                        Its also completely hypocritical that Republicans stand against big government and regulations, but they believe the government should be allowed to regulate what a woman does with her own body....irony

                        or Republicans stand for firmly on representing religion "christianity" in government, but deny the fundmental beliefs of Jesus Christ.....like Helping the poor, weak, and those in need. Also not judging others. How about He who is without sin cast the first stone?

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#15 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                        How about not killing babies.

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                        #15.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:20 AM EDT

                        actually its not a baby. If a womans own body can self abort up thru the 1st trimester

                          #15.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:57 AM EDT

                          Well, that was a stretch for a response. Apparently pregnancy is a disease according to liberals.

                            #15.3 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

                            Interesting how some women blame others for wanting to "regulate what a woman does with her own body" but then want those same others to cover the costs of their contraceptive insurance co-pays.

                            So in other words "don't YOU dare try to tell me what I can do with my own body and when I want to do something with my own body I'd like YOU to cover my co-pay cost".

                            Very magnanimous !

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                            #15.4 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

                            mygirl- No one said pregnancy is a disease, but the facts are the facts many woman do not even begin telling people they are pregnant until well into the first trimester for the simple fact the that the rate of miscarrage at that point is very high

                            Tony-268769-- No Democrat to my knowledge has stated they want someone to cover their co-pay cost for Birth Control....not sure where you got that from. Many womens arguement if for it to continue to be cover by health insurance as any other perscription drug would be. Even planned parenthood still charges for birth control. No one is asking to recieve free birth control. That doesnt make sense. The argument is for it to contiue to be cover as a perscription drug which is it.

                              #15.5 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:05 PM EDT
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                              Hypocrisy has become the only constant of today's GOP 'We Built This!”

                              The Tampa Bay Times Forum arena, which houses the Tampa Bay Lightning, was built in 1996 as the “Ice Palace” with 62% government funds. The total budget for the project was $139 million, of which public money accounted for $86 million and team money accounted for $53 million. The city of Tampa is receiving a $50 million federal grant to pay for security around the 2012 Republican National Convention. So far, officials have detailed plans for $46,520,490 worth of security expenditures. From a 16,000-pound armored SWAT truck to segways, cotton uniforms and pay for 3,500 law enforcement officers, we offer a visual breakdown of how the Tampa RNC security spending is be spend

                              Mitt Romney’s rescue of a business consulting firm was achieved in part by convincing the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. to forgive roughly $ 10 million of the company’s debts, according to sources close to the deal and federal records obtained by The Boston Globe.The way the company was rescued was with a federal bailout of $10 million. “The rest of us had to absorb the loss … Romney? He and others made $4 million in this deal. … Mitt Romney: Maybe he’s just against government when it helps working men and women. But this flip flopping moderate who also claimed to be progressive was for and against Obama’s wall street bailouts

                              dennis Sollmann, the owner of Sollmann Electric Company, who appeared in a Romney web ad criticizing the president for his "you didn't build that" line, did millions of dollars worth of work for the government

                              Sher Valenzuela Story with the convention's "We Built It" theme: She didn't actually build her company without the government's help.Valenzuela's company received roughly $17 million in federal loans and contracts and she's openly encouraged other business owners to rely on taxpayer funding, Media Matters reported Thursday.

                              Jack Gilchrist, the owner of Gilchrist Metal Fabricating, who starred in another Romney ad, received $800,000 in tax-exempt revenue bonds, as well as sub-contracts in 2008 from the U.S. Navy.

                              Ann Romney is really full her "secret service". The rest of us - High Schools, police, the public at large - have to deal with the nuts that are out there. . Excuse me, there are many of us that are targeted daily and deal with it

                              It's time for us to cut back on government and help the American people." —Mitt Romney”

                              NO taxpayer should be paying for this - period

                              • 2 votes
                              Reply#16 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:39 PM EDT

                              Yes, GOPers you built it. The crappy economy, the high unemployment rate, 2 unfunded wars, falling apart infrastructure, police and fire department lay offs, tons of moola to Grover Norquist and the Koch Brothers. Yes, you built it, all right. Now the Democrats will have to coninue to try and fix your mess.

                              • 4 votes
                              Reply#17 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:19 PM EDT

                              Spare me your supposed "fix"...it never works.

                                #17.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:45 PM EDT
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                                Republicans don't understand this because they are ignorant of what America is about. I built some of the roads and placed the water and sewer pipe that made there business even possible. I did that for them they didn't do that and it was payed for by hard working Americans tax payers. Mitt hid his money and didn't pay taxes on his money. He shouldn't even be able to do business using our services let alone be able to run for president. Mitt wants to run this country and he don't have clue of the hard working Americans that built it so he can have well protected comfortable life. Law enforcement protect there business firer fighters save there businesses and hard working public employees keep there service running.

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#18 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:36 PM EDT

                                Amazing fact....40% of the US population is under the age of 30. How do you get them out of vote for their future? Sadly, my grandkids told me they don't care. It's embarrassing. They mights as well live in say Cuba or North Korea where people don't vote either.

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                                Reply#19 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:26 PM EDT

                                Linda...

                                Sad to say, but you are correct. I have 24 and 27 year old kids and they have zero interest in politics or government. My son opened a business and I tell him that he is yielding his vote to someone who wants to take something away from him and that he can not trust that the people who are voting are doing so with any of his interests in mind. They both own houses, have jobs, and pay taxes. And are letting others determine their futures.

                                  #19.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:50 PM EDT
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                                  As everyone should know by now, when Obama said, "You didn't build that," he was referring to infrastructure - roads, bridges, airports, and so forth - that helps businesses in conducting their affairs. He was correctly pointing out that a successful business is not a go-it-alone operation.

                                  The Republican attempt to distort his remark is typical of their dishonest approach to campaigning. They know they can't win on the merits of their policies, so they resort to continuous lying, propagated by a torrent of money from right-wing billionaires and corporate interests.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#20 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:14 PM EDT

                                  When Obama made that statement he was ginning up to justify tax increases. Plain and simple.

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                                  #20.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:47 PM EDT
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                                  .............................Gov. NIKKI HALEY.......REPUBLICAN SOUTH CAROLINA.........................................

                                  .............Continue to echo the team............WE BUILD IT.......and WE ARE PROUD OF THAT.............

                                  .........................................Again, a slap into the face of THE LORD...............................................................

                                  King Nebuchadnezzar was changed into an animal as soon as he boasted ......HE BUILD IT.....

                                  ..............................................................PROVERBS 6 v 16-----19....................................................................

                                  16. THESE SIX THINGS DOTH THE LORD HATE: YEA SEVEN ARE AN ABOMINATION UNTO HIM

                                  17. A PROUD LOOK, A LYING TONGUE, AND HANDS THAT SHED INNOCENT BLOOD.

                                  18. AN HEART THAT DEVISETH WICKED IMAGINATIONS, FEET THAT SWIFT IN RUNNING MISCHIEF,

                                  19. A FALSE WITNESS THAT SPEAKETH LIES, AND HE THAT SOWETH DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN

                                  ..............................Be careful AMERICA......of the Team Romney and their gods.....................................

                                  ........................................... LET US REMAIN ONE NATION UNDER GOD..................................................

                                  ..vote.........................................................OBAMA/BIDEN 2012...................................................................

                                  ...........................................................HOPE & CHANGE STILL ALIVE...................................................................

                                  ........................................THE WORK GOES ON, THE CAUSE ENDURE...........................................

                                  .................................................THE DREAMS WILL NEVER DIE..................................................................

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                                  Reply#21 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:26 PM EDT

                                  Divide then scare/demonize is the Democratic way. For such a religious person it suprises me you support abortion and socialism and an administration thank slaps Christianity in the face almost daily....

                                  Faith is the answer not politicians. Anyone who puts their time/money/faith in a politician is a fool following a false GOD.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #21.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:27 AM EDT
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                                  .....................................If the blind lead the blind .....they both shall fall into a pit...................................

                                  ................................................................ROMNEY/RYAN 1040............................................................................

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                                  Reply#22 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:32 PM EDT

                                  If you spent less time playing with your keyboard and more time actually fact checking you'd be much better off.

                                    #22.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:49 PM EDT
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                                    hahaha, when is the last time you heard of someone make it all on their own without any government help? Let's see, we won't count first that you would not be a living US citizen if gov had not won two World Wars and the Cold War. So what did that business owner do? never take a public school class, never get any health care or infectious disease immunizations at least partly funded by government, never use public infrastructure, never get a gov backed loan for anything, never call and get advice from gov engineering, science, health or agriculture experts, never have a gov contract or sell any of their products to gov departments or employees, never worked for a gov department or school or university, never benefited from serving in the US Military like all that advanced training the military gives you? So how many folks do you know that did not get quite a bit of these services?

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                                    Reply#23 - Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:34 PM EDT

                                    The government did not win any wars. Young men and women with their lives did. Guns,ships,tanks,bombs,ect would be just worthless paperweights if not for work/sacrifice of people. The business owner got up off his/her ass and made a successful life. They would have done so with or without the services you mention. The services you mention are available to all. Why then is everyone not successful. This idea that government is the stimulus that makes people successful is ridiculous. Successful people are successful because of their efforts. Period.

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                                    #23.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:45 AM EDT

                                    And those 'guns, ships, tanks, and bombs' were not provided by any 'government'...they were manufactured by private companies using the dollars of taxpayers. Again...government just handles the paperwork.

                                      #23.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:53 PM EDT
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                                      Business and Government must work together.Business man;I'll put my business in your state/city/county,but the roads going to my business look a little rough.Could you(governor/mayor)kindly ask your citizens(tax payers),to foot the bill to fix up the roads,thanks.No?Oh I could my business somewhere else.:-)

                                      Next time your favorite sports team asks the city for that billion dollar stadium,mostly funded or all funded by the tax payer,(dont get the new stadium)I'm moving the team.Hate tax increases,lets pay that surtax to keep the team.

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                                      Reply#24 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:58 AM EDT

                                      When the patient has been severely injured and suffered massive loss of blood, it is not time to prescribe "diet and exercise". That is the proper prescription for times of over-abundance. Like when W came to office. In fact he bragged that he would retire ALL the debt in his first major speech to Congress:

                                      "At the end of those 10 years, we will have paid down all the debt that is available to retire. That is more debt repaid more quickly than has ever been repaid by any nation at any time in history." (watch the video: )

                                      Instead, he waged two unnecessary wars on the credit card (never budgeted or offset) strong-armed through Congress a massive wet kiss to Big Pharma in Medicare Part D (making it illegal for Medicare, the biggest risk pool of all, to pay less than top retail dollar for drugs!), and two equally massive tax cuts for the über-wealthy

                                      ("This is an impressive crowd, the haves — and the have-mores. Some people call you the elites: I call you my base.")

                                      none of it paid for or offset. Now when FDR borrowed money — more than anyone else in terms of the debt to GDP ratio, that money bought something. The year I was born, 1946, the debt was 127% of GDP, the all-time high. That debt bailed us out of the previous Republican Great Depression (as contrasted with the present Republican Great Depression). It built the greatest economic and industrial engine ever built — we did that together, folks. It made us so strong that Truman in 7 years paid that debt down from 127% to 70% while funding the Marshall Plan to restore Europe! Eisenhower paid it down from there to 55% while building thousands of schools, hospitals, and the Interstate Highway System! While Kennedy and Johnson were paying down the debt to 40% we went to the moon and built the Great Society pulling millions out of poverty.

                                      Even Nixon, Ford and Carter reduced the debt, until when Reagan came to office it was at its lowest in fifty years, about 30% of GDP. But Reagan howled about the scary debt because, though at a deep low in real terms, it was nominally at an all-time-high of one trillion. This is lying with fingers crossed behind one's back. Inflation had changed the value of the dollar in nominal terms, but its buying power was still awesome.

                                      OK, so what did Reagan do about the scary debt he used to get elected? He tripled it. What did he spend it on? Massive tax cuts for the rich, so massive he had to backtrack shortly thereafter — by raising payroll taxes on working people. As Leona Helmsley's former housekeeper Elizabeth Baum quoted her:

                                      "We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes."

                                      Depressions are the time to borrow money, and then spend it on the future by building the industrial plant. Which is what Obama tried to do but was largely blocked by the GOP Senate filibuster squad. Their stated goal has been "make Obama a one-term president", no matter who it hurts.

                                      If Reagan, Bush, and Bush had just left the debt alone, neither raised it or lowered it, we would have been $9.1 Trillion better off when Obama took office. instead they looted the treasury, and left Obama with a broken land, and no choice but to borrow. He reversed the catastrophic slide, but has been blocked in trying to restore true vigor. FDR had 70% majorities in both Houses, so it was simple to put good policies in place. Obama had 58 or 59 senators he could trust — on a good day. That's worth nothing really, when the chips are down.

                                      Re-elect Obama and give him a congress that will support real reconstruction!

                                      Look at this chart to see the sense of my remarks:

                                        Reply#25 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:45 AM EDT

                                        Democrat social media plant..... Get a real job. Any supporter of a politician is a fool.

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                                        #25.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:20 AM EDT

                                        More important than "Obama having 58 or 59 senators he could trust" is any apparent reason why Mr. Obama should be trusted.

                                        Enough already with all the wonderful things Barack Obama could do for everyone if only he could always just do what he wants to do and always simply get his way.

                                        He has proven nothing to get that type of leeway and he is a lousy leader to boot.

                                        Enough. And enough with the single "make him a one term president" line spoken by one man over three years ago...I guess those six spoken words are the reason Mr. Obama has turned out to be a lousy leader.

                                          #25.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:00 PM EDT
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                                          This is the image I was looking for — I missed the time window:

                                            Reply#26 - Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:49 AM EDT
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