Trump and Cheney. Sloppy fools right there with mud slinging Romney

Pointing out your opponent's record of failure is not slinging mud. Second, Trump is a bit of a kook, and he's nothing more than a cheerleader at this point. Third, Cheney is a RINO, pure and simple. He said he was "simply thrilled" when his daughter married her girlfriend. His loyalties are clearly not straight down the right field line.

Gimme an instance of what you consider Romney's "mudslinging."

American politics is full contact. People who think that is new don't know much about history. There were 19th century elections that make this one look tame. Calling Romney a "flip-flopper"? Saying he is in a "War on Women"? Try candidates calling each other whoremongers. Calling a potential a bigamist. Calling people traitors and thief and almost any insult that comes to mind. Don't like it? Move to Russia. They can jail people who dissent. I like it better here.

Romney mudslinging? How about the lie about doing away with 720 billion in Medicare? How about the lie he is doing away with work requirements for welfare. How about the socialist stuff? How about the "clearly not an American" stuff. How about the "I get the Anglo-Saxon thing"?

Buffaloes, you're contradicting yourself, so I'm not sure how to respond. Your first post defends current political tactics, yet your second post slams Romney for deploying some of them. I suppose I'll have to disagree with you on BOTH fronts just to make sure I've got it covered.

First off, the difference between calling Obama a Socialist and calling Romney a Flip-Flopper is that one is true while the other is not. It's really as simple as that. Slander and libel were defined in a Supreme Court case in the first decade of this country's existence. Slander cannot be committed if what is said is TRUE. Obama acts on Socialist principles. He TELLS US that he thinks it's good "when you spread the wealth around." What exactly do you think Socialist IS, Buffaloes? Do you think a Socialist is someone who runs around with a pitchfork putting buildings aflame? That's a Communist. A Socialist seeks through legislation what a Communist seeks through revolution and violence. Both want to 'even out the playing field,' but they go about it differently. Obama's Socialistic mindset is shown in his policies. It's undeniable and thus not 'mudslinging' in my mind. It's calling it how it is.

Second, the charges Romney has leveled at Obama are truthful. (This is going to hearken back a bit to my last paragraph, but bear with me.) Obama's charges against Romney are NOT. Romney did not outsource jobs at Bain. Obama did at GM. Romney's tax returns are another example. We're crucifying a guy for not releasing things that he DOES NOT HAVE TO RELEASE. You're creating a conspiracy theory because it's the only hope you have to win this election. Obama and Biden and other Democrats have more hatefilled quotes on record than I could list if I stayed here all night. What about Ed Shultz saying we should rip Cheney's heart out of his chest, stomp on it, and shove it back inside him? What about Montel Williams telling Michelle Bachmann she should cut her throat? What would you call THOSE, Buffaloes?

The charges against Obama are true? Just start with the eliminating work requirements. Just explain that one.

And those other quotes are terrible. I do not defend them.

If every woman who met the usual characteristics for an abortion (i.e. young, out of work, abandoned by the baby's father, etc.) actually had an abortion . . . Barack Obama would not be President right now.

HI, CUDDLES! I object to your characterization, though. I act at LEAST as mature as a ninth-grader. >:(

(But then again, this is coming from a talking koala bear named after an ice cream flavor . . . )

Biden's defense on his gaffe about the 'chains' comment

If you want to know what's outrageous, it's their policies. The last time these guys unshackled the economy, to use their term, they put the middle class in shackles. That's how we got where we are. Nine million jobs lost, wage stagnation, 16 trillion dollars in wealth you all lost, in your home equity, in your 401ks, and your pension plans - you're the ones that got nailed. All of America except for the very few.

Akin's defense on his controversial Rape comment:

In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it's clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year. Those who perpetrate these crimes are the lowest of the low in our society and their victims will have no stronger advocate in the Senate to help ensure they have the justice they deserve. I recognize that abortion, and particularly in the case of rape, is a very emotionally charged issue. But I believe deeply in the protection of all life and I do not believe that harming another innocent victim is the right course of action. I also recognize that there are those who, like my opponent, support abortion and I understand I may not have their support in this election.

The reason Biden's comment isn't getting as much hype as Akin's, I believe anyways, is that it didn't matter as much. The crowd didn't care about it and many believe it was taken out of context as he was referring to Wall Street dominating people once again. Akin's, however, is hard to take out of context.

However, that doesn't I am here to simply besmirch republicans. I do believe it unfair that people lump Ryan together with Akin. Sure, he may have signed some anti-abortion bills, but that doesn't mean Ryan believes Akin's statement that the female body can shut down a pregnancy in cases of forced rape; he simply wants to protect the value of a human life.

Honestly, I can't wait for the election to be over and for the hatred the be done with...the former coming in 3 months and the latter a pipe dream.

If most Democrats really like the President, why have his approval numbers dropped since his election, and why did Keith Judd (a convicted felon sitting in prison for armed robbery) get 40% of the Democratic votes in a primary against Obama? Seems like there are at least a FEW Democrats out there who are becoming disenchanted with the Demander-in-Chief. And what about the Newsweek story? Last I checked, Newsweek isn't exactly a Conservative voice piece, Harley.

The Mormons like Willard a lot. Lots of really rich people like Romney as he will save them tons of money on their tax returns.

Jim, your comment epitomizes the problem with so many Democrats. You look at the successful, and say that you aren't successful because of them. Instead, you should be saying I live in a country that gives me the freedom to be as successful as them! I'm in the middle class, possibly upper middle class, and I don't have a problem with Romney's wealth, much as the Democrats didn't have a problem with Kennedy's wealth. I do have a problem with the government taking my hard earned money and giving it to foreign countries that pose no threat to the U.S. and don't even like the U.S. (Democrats and Republicans are equally guilty). I do have a problem with the government taking my money and giving it to those that don't even try to work, to those that scam the system for benefits that they don't deserve. This is the domain of the Democrats primarily, because these people are the life blood of the Democrats. The government needs to provide people an environment and incentives to succeed, not provide the chains that bind them to a government handout and a Democratic vote. it's easy to blame others for your failures, as Obama so adeptly shows us by blaming Bush and the Republicans for everything, not so easy to take responsibility for your own situation and doing something to improve it. Can Romney turn things around? Probably not. Can Obama turn things around? Undoubtedly not!

So you think that massive new tax cuts for the wealthy paid for by the middle class and poor might turn the economy around? After 4 years in office, FDR got unemployment down to 18%. And he was working with a congress that actually wanted to get the economy moving again. Fixing a republican economic disaster takes time. Just as it did in the 1930.

Nobody wanted Willard but he had the money so they are stuck with him.

This war on woman is a diversion. It actually started when the HHS wrote a regulation forcing religious institutions to provide birth control even though it is against their beliefs.

Currently there are several law suits filed against the HHS by 40 different institutions.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76570.html

More than 40 Catholic institutions on Monday filed lawsuits challenging the Obama administration’s policy that requires employers to provide insurance coverage of contraceptives, a coordinated strategy backed by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

The groups, including the Archdiocese of Washington, the University of Notre Dame and other Catholic schools and charities, filed 12 lawsuits in courts throughout the country. They join about 12 lawsuits already filed against the policy.

The groups say the administration’s policy is a violation of their right to freedom of religion.

The Obama administration has said it would give religious-affiliated institutions, such as Notre Dame, a one-year reprieve from the policy, which goes into effect Aug. 1. During that time, the administration has said it would work on a compromise.

Of course this is about First Amendment rights. Whats the Amendment in the Bill of Rights that guarantees free contraception?

Let us not lose sight of what this "War on Woman" is really about, Obama's "War on Religion".

28 states required insurance companies to cover contraceptives. No problem. Now that it's part of the ACA, it's a war on religion. Romneycare required insurance companies to cover contraceptives - no problem. Obamacare required insurance companies to cover contraceptives - it's a war on religion.

The uneducated and the uninformed AKA Romney's base. Weaton university screamed their brains out about having to provide contraceptives as part of their health insurance. It turned out that their health insurance had been providing contraceptives for years.

I would like examples. I apologize if I'm not so week minded that I'm going to believe you without any substantiation.

I'll believe it when you prove it.

For three years the left has been calling any one on the right "Racists", "Homophobes", "Bigots", etc. Do you really think the High road is yours to take?

Being called a Muslim isn't really that bad in my book. I know alot of Muslims and they are nice, honest, and hard working. Just because someone is a Muslim doesn't mean they are terrorists, extremists, etc. they just want to live their lives like the rest of us.

Unfortunately both sides are constantly trying to stereotype the other to make them look bad.

The questions is can people look past that or are they week minded and easily manipulated?

david people died because of what the right did..and you know it..that little girl in AZ..so on..that Little girl was not my child..but my heart cried out to her

have you notice fox news has stop completely about Muslim brotherhood is taking over in America ..with this last shooting

No I don't know it. Prove it. What Little girl in AZ?

Your not talking about that guy that was going to college and got kicked out of several classes, had complaints against him by several teachers and other students, and the Liberal academia didn't do anything about are you?

Kinda Like how Sandusky was able to get away with molesting children for decades because they all turned a blind eye?

did you forget the shooting in AZ

I remember perfectly. Why don't you remind us?

Prove that he was in any way associated with the Right.

I'm ready with links so bring it on.

Being called a Muslim isn't really that bad in my book. I know alot of Muslims and they are nice, honest, and hard working. Just because someone is a Muslim doesn't mean they are terrorists, extremists, etc. they just want to live their lives like the rest of us.

I agree that being called a term like muslim or asian or what have you isn't bad. However, it was used in a negative connotation against Obama like Biden's offhand remark about the indian accents to run a 7-11. Perhaps a bad example, but you get my drift. Neither side is perfect. Fight it out on equal ground rather than raising one above the other.

elvis. "Are you In", Denial?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

Denial (also called abnegation) is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.^[1] The subject may use:

• simple denial: deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether
• minimisation: admit the fact but deny its seriousness (a combination of denial and rationalization)
• projection: admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility by blaming somebody or something else.

The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction. The theory of denial was first researched seriously by Anna Freud. She classified denial as a mechanism of the immature mind, because it conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. Where denial occurs in mature minds, it is most often associated with death, dying and rape. More recent research has significantly expanded the scope and utility of the concept. Elisabeth Kübler-Ross used denial as the first of five stages in the psychology of a dying patient, and the idea has been extended to include the reactions of survivors to news of a death. Thus, when parents are informed of the death of a child, their first reaction is often of the form, "No! You must have the wrong house, you can't mean our child!"

Those three points sure do sound familiar. "The Private sector is doing Fine", "Our polices worked thiers didn't", "you didn't build that", and lets not forget the good old standbys Blame Bush, Blame Congress, Blame Republicans, Blame the Tsunami, etc.

Obama's quote in full context:

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

It's unfair to take things out of context for both sides. If you don't want people to hate you, why do you show people you hate them? Try to have a clean fight without bashing the other side. Those who fight with shields walk away with less scrapes than those that fight with swords.

And Elvis, before you try to defend the left, at least spell the term correctly: Muslim.

Don't trust "Occupiers" and those that support them?

http://oaklandoccupypatriarchy.wordpress.com/?s=H.E.A.T.&submit=Search

Occupy Patriarchy disrupts Law Enforcement’s “Anti-Sex-Trafficking” Conference

The H.E.A.T conference organizers claim that their intention is to combat the sex trafficking of children and find “solutions” to “respond” to children coerced into sex work, in order to “Stop Human Exploitation and Trafficking.” We are here to expose the blatant LIE in this claim. The official, police-sanctioned campaign to combat the commercial sex trafficking of children is nothing more than a patronizing, patriarchal guise that is being used to support intensified repression of sex workers and the further empowerment of police agencies at their expense.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/are-occupy-oakland-members-in-favor-of-child-sex-trafficking-wait-until-you-read-what-theyre-saying/

Are Occupy Oakland Members in Favor of Sex Trafficking? Wait Until You See What They Did

On June 13, apparent members of Occupy Oakland staged a counter-protest at the H.E.A.T. (Human Exploitation and Trafficking) conference to end human exploitation and trafficking.

Why on earth would they do that? While the Occupy movement has long struggled with having a cohesive message, some of the signs indicated that rescuing girls from lives of prostitution constitutes racism, and that the police and “patriarchy” shouldn’t have control over such matters.

The left feigns so much concern about rape but protest an Anti Child Sex Trafficking conference?

-and so the wealthiest pay the same percentage of taxes as the rest of us

I believe 47% of U.S. citizens pay no income taxes at all.

The only way that would happen would be to have a flat tax where everyone pays the same percentage. I would also advocate no loop holes or deductions whatsoever so that we are all treated equally.

You not advocating a flat tax are you? How would you keep up the class warfare rhetoric if we were all treated equally regardless of social and economic status?

So I guess you just want to hand over the reins of the country to George Soros and his communist agenda? You probably dont even know who George Soros is and the extent to which his tentacles are choking out the America we grew up in.

If Obama is re-elected, there won't be a middle class.

No! If the same old tired obstructionist GOP are re-elected there won't be a middle class

To reuse my material from earlier:

Biden's defense on his gaffe about the 'chains' comment

If you want to know what's outrageous, it's their policies. The last time these guys unshackled the economy, to use their term, they put the middle class in shackles. That's how we got where we are. Nine million jobs lost, wage stagnation, 16 trillion dollars in wealth you all lost, in your home equity, in your 401ks, and your pension plans - you're the ones that got nailed. All of America except for the very few.

Akin's defense on his controversial Rape comment:

In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it's clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year. Those who perpetrate these crimes are the lowest of the low in our society and their victims will have no stronger advocate in the Senate to help ensure they have the justice they deserve. I recognize that abortion, and particularly in the case of rape, is a very emotionally charged issue. But I believe deeply in the protection of all life and I do not believe that harming another innocent victim is the right course of action. I also recognize that there are those who, like my opponent, support abortion and I understand I may not have their support in this election.

The reason Biden's comment isn't getting as much hype as Akin's, I believe anyways, is that it didn't matter as much. The crowd didn't care about it and many believe it was taken out of context as he was referring to Wall Street dominating people once again. Akin's, however, is hard to take out of context.

However, that doesn't I am here to simply besmirch republicans. I do believe it unfair that people lump Ryan together with Akin. Sure, he may have signed some anti-abortion bills, but that doesn't mean Ryan believes Akin's statement that the female body can shut down a pregnancy in cases of forced rape; he simply wants to protect the value of a human life.

Honestly, I can't wait for the election to be over and for the hatred the be done with...the former coming in 3 months and the latter a pipe dream.

Lady jag, this post is full of mis statements.

Obama said he could fix our problems with the trillion dollar stimulus he didn't

Blame the DEMOCRAT Barney Frank for the housing/financial crisis

Obama's trillion dollar stimulus was OK which he spent on companies in foreign countries and spent on his contributors but the 44 billion to keep our financial institutions afloat was wrong?

Bain created more jobs than were lost. Plus, he Bain bought companies that were in trouble and may have gone under anyway.

The only idiot is our failed president and those that will not look at OBama's failed record

LADY JAG, You are probably right that Obama has done the best he can, unfortunately that is not good enough. I too resent Akin's remarks. I have never seen anything close to those remarks from Ryan. I suspect Romney does not want the democrats nitpicking his returns as they have the ones he released. It is just a means to get off topic. So Obama won't release his school papers (if you apply for a job they request school records, not tax returns). You had better check the records again on Romney at Bain, you are way off. Do you think Spitzer and Paterson (Or Clinton and interns?) are typical democrats? Do you believe in being responsible or do you want the government to take care of you?

Lady Jag

So far as I know, there has not been even ONE Republican who backs up what this moron said. However, it is a red herring by the left to insinuate that the majority or even a SIGNIFICANT number of abortions are performed on either rape or incest victims. Abortion should NOT be an acceptable form of birth control. Even if you dont look at it from a moral stance, there is almost no case that having what amounts to an invasive, surgical like process is the equivilent in severity as using a condom or the pill.

The left blew it when people like OBAMA did not seperate themselves from partialbirth/late term abortions i.e. killing a fetus that if born at this stage, could survive,

George Tiller reportedly used needles to terminate babies who survied the abortion process. Are you really OK with this?

No abortions after 12 weeks unless the mothers life is at risk.

Fine. Akin was wrong and stands on his own. Do what you want with your body just don't ask me to help pay for it.

So you are that old white man who thinks he should control a woman body even in the cases of rape or incest. Funny how that sounds . Huuuuummmm I wonder who the Fux thinks like that?

Romney Robbeme and Ryan - Rand.

I hope the women of the United States come out in droves to mop the floor with you CRAZY SOB's

Anyone supporting the Republican Party is a Raving LUNATIC.