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President Barack Obama leads presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney in Wisconsin in the first major poll of Badger State voters since Rep. Paul Ryan was added to the Republican ticket.
Forty-nine percent of likely Wisconsin voters said they would vote for Obama if the election were held today, versus 46 percent of voters who said they would vote for the Romney-Ryan ticket, according to a Marquette University Law poll released Wednesday.
That's a much closer margin than has separated Romney and Obama in this swing state for much of 2012; the two candidates were tied in Marquette's likely voter model in mid-May, but Obama opened a wider lead over Romney during the course of the summer. The law school's last poll conducted before the Ryan pick had Obama ahead, 50-45 percent.
NBC News currently rates Wisconsin a "toss up" in its ratings of swing states this fall. But no Republican presidential candidate has won there since President Ronald Reagan in 1994. Nonetheless, the GOP ticket did campaign there shortly after Ryan was named Romney's running mate, and some Republican super PACs have spent on television advertising in the state.
To that end, 29 percent of registered Wisconsin voters said the choice of Ryan made them more likely to vote for Romney, and 13 percent said it would make them less likely to support the former Massachusetts governor. But 53 percent said Ryan's addition to the GOP ticket had no impact on their vote.
**Also of note: Former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson, on the heels of his victory this month in a three-way Republican primary, leads Democratic Rep. Tammy Baldwin in the race for Wisconsin's open Senate seat.
Fifty percent of registered Wisconsin voters said they would vote for Thompson, versus 41 percent who would back Baldwin. Both are running to succeed retiring Democratic Sen. Herb Kohl.
The poll, conducted Aug. 16-19, has a 4.2 percent margin of error for its sample of likely voters, and a 3.8 percent margin of error for its sample of registered voters.
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Wow, Ryan provided a 1% bump! Wonder what the convention will do...
This story is more proof of my suspicion today:
With all these anti-Romney/Ryan and anti-Republican stories on FR today, you really have to suspect that NBC and MSDNC just closed a multi-milliondollar ad buy from the Barry campaign and his Super PAC.
Whores.
LOL, I just read the exact opposite story on a different site.
"Ryan helps Romney take lead in Wisconsin"
Hmmm, one of these journalist sure got it wrong!
Just how do you keep track of all those suspicions Joe? You give each of them their own day or week? You pull today's suspicion out of a hat? I guess when someone is as practiced as you are at being suspicious, it just comes natural, huh?
Ursula-279622
Wow, Ryan provided a 1% bump! Wonder what the convention will do..
I keep asking where's the ounce to the bounce?
Zapp & Roger Troutman - More Bounce To The Ounce
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6j24q_zapp-roger-troutman-more-bounce-to_music
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Chew it up; Eddie Munster; oops, LOL, I mean "Rock Star". Have fun.
4 more years for 44
Obama/Biden 2012
What is it with these right wing nitwits who are always under the assumption there is some vast conspiracy against them?
Must be tough going through life as paranoid as they are...
Dem4Freedom.
Here is the average of 5 polls:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/wi/wisconsin_romney_vs_obama-1871.html
Plus check the Politico map and poll for WI
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/swing-state/?hp=f3
What a coincidence:
If this is done on the business world, this is called "racketeering".
And if you're not getting the "correct" polling "results", just send your DOJ team after the polling firm:
It is the "Chicago Way".
The convention will give them a platform to brodcast how disorganized and angry they are at one another.
Whoa Ho HO! Parents know their own "kids" don't they...
The headline of this story is, to put it mildly, bizarre.
If you follow the trend of the Marquette poll, the gap between Romney and Obama in Wisconsin has closed sharply; it's now within the margin of error.
Add to that the closing of the gap in Michigan polling- which rcp has moved back to "toss up"- and the news is not so good for team Obama.
Hence the bizarre headline.
As the Akin story plays out and sinks in for what it is a nutty sounding man telling the honest truth about the republican platform and Ryans on view on "forcible rape" definitions, the tiny bumps will turn into larger lumps, not to mention just how Romney will explain to the electorate that he is the guy who should take care of the nations business, but his personal business is none of your business. He is the guy that knows how the nations taxes should be restructured but will not show his. Romney is not building the momentum and broad based support he needs to get the 270 electoral votes necessary, it may be close but he will not sweep the swing states, and he will lose. Negative adds are one thing but when the democrats get to call him a liar to his face in the debates it's going to be brutal. Hell republicans booed him in the primary when he said he would not release his taxes, that issue is not going away. All he has to sell is that he is not Obama, and that is no doubt enough for many republicans, but not for the general electorate, and Romney's political problem is the more closely people look at him the less they like what they see, and they like even less what he will not allow them to see. Three and a half years of constant harping on the president by republicans and a billion dollars worth of negative adds and he still trails, I don't think they will unseat Obama, not with this ticket.
What convention? If Isaac hits the Mayor of Tampa is ready to call it off.
Must be tough going through life as paranoid as they are...
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Sorry DumbFux, no conspiracy, just more of Barry's trademark crony capitalism.
all i know is that this election will be no landslide
and that fiesty person really needs to shut it, she is so blind
QUESTION:
Why do the "doubters" continue (day by day, HECK, hour by hour) to drink from the Liberal Well if it makes them so sick?
ANSWER:
Because they know the water is clean...
BOING!
Imagine that, Ryan isn't even bumping up Mitt's chances in Wisconsin. Couldn't have anything to do with Wisconsin folks were none to pleased with Ryan's kill medicare plans; after all, Ryan had to stop having in-person town halls because those darn, pesky folks wouldn't quit asking him about killing medicare.
HA, HA, HA! Albany Joe, quit whining, you sound just like Mitt Romney. Honestly, is it the media's fault that Ryan's selection didn't move the Etch-a-Sketch duo ahead in Wisconsin? Your side never complains when there are negative stories about Obama/Biden.
JoAnnaSmith1
It is the "Chicago Way".
Suffy,
Posting from the Washington Times is the Moonie Way.
You don't know Chicago. How's it doing over there for you in Soprano-land with your Krispy gov?
no because i see the nbc page and i look at the headlines and decide to voice my opinion
Sounds like the Romney / Ryan campaign needs a "forcible" bump to overtake Obama in Wisconsin?
The republican/tea party will say anything at this point. The only thing the republican/tea party has left is lies.
This is my favorite headline
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-08-20/obama-campaign-spending-fundraising/57174798/1
Nice to see that Obama overspends his own money the same way he overspends ours.p>
And yet he still has twice as much cash on hand than Romney
He is not in the red, he is not running a deficit.
I have come to the conclusion that conspiracy theories and fear of the latest bogeyman are the only two things that keep the GOPers afloat on dry land.
Forrest Grump, well said!
What poll? Who? Where did MSNBC dig this one up from? How many were polled? 10 people? How gullible you liberals are. Even if this poll had any validity, the margin of error hasn't even been broached... and for an incumbent president to be within the margin of error at this stage of the campaign is ridiculous... Obama is heading into turbulent waters and will eventually go over the falls in defeat if this is the way the numbers are showing up now. Jimmy Carter was doing much better at this stage of the game... and we all know where that ended up!
Dennis, Columbus, Ohio
Thanks for the link to more polling.
On paper, Romney sounds like the kind of east coast, moderate, (well, he used to be moderate), Republican Maine likes, but Obama is ahead here 50% to Romney's 35%.
Looking at other New England states: Connecticut supports Obama 51% to 43% and Massachusetts, where Romney was governor, is firmly for Obama, 54% to 35%. New Hampshire, where Romney has a vacation home, currently supports Obama 48% to 45%. Of course, Vermont supports Obama, 59% to 28% (!) but they have an older population and they ain't stupid.
What a coincidence:
If this is done on the business world, this is called "racketeering".
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Thanks for the heads-up, Smiffy. Thank God a Republican administration would NEVER do that!
www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-01-06-williams-whitehouse_x.htm
townhall.com/columnists/armstrongwilliams/2005/01/10/my_apology/page/full/
no joe, no bo, nj
Or perhaps it is you that is bizarre. Care to double down on a woman's inability to get pregnant while being raped? Or have you 'evolved' since Sunday?
this article is pretty funny:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-nunberg/@!$%#-history_b_1819872.html#slide=1411086
Anybody notice the preponderance of Republicans?
Brianb: " Where did MSNBC dig this one up from? How many were polled? 10 people?"
Brian, you should read your own posts, since you included the link that answers your own question in it:
"The poll interviewed 706 registered Wisconsin voters by both landline and cell phone August 16-19, 2012. The margin of error is +/- 3.8 percentage points for the full sample. There are 576 “likely voters,” i.e., those who said they were certain to vote in the November elections, with a margin of error for this group being +/- 4.2 percentage points. The entire questionnaire, full results, and breakdowns by demographic groups are available at http://law.marquette.edu/poll."
Actually, THIS article is pretty funny
http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/obama-has-trouble-spelling-ohio
Nice that he got a do-over. Wonder if they'd give , oh, say, Romney, a do-over? I doubtit.
And before the liberal leap- no, the first photo was not photoshopped. See, if it were, Obama's watch would be on the other arm- and the guy behind him's tee shirt would be backwards.
Obama is just, really, that dumb.
Forrest - again we come to a point of disagreement but share some points of agreement. The Aikens story won't be finalized until sometime next week... as long as it's before the 25th of Sept. I hear his poll numbers actually went up over the past couple of days... The man truly made a huge faux paux.. and looked a bit... foolish. Since he made his apology we'll see how the jury hangs on his ability to hold his own... If his poll numbers don't drop, he needs to stay in the race. Now where we agree, the republicans are in the habit of eating their own. I clearly don't understand their means and methods of doing things. They allow the democrats to rough shod all over them and they do appear very weak. The democrats know this and take advantage of it every time they smell blood in the water... This is exactly why I am not a republican - their weakness. Since Aikens has the exact same stand on abortion as the GOP, they should have stood by him... but they are quick to run and duck cover.
As far as Obama is concerned, you have to look at it without the democratic blinders on. In your mind, Obama is unbeatable... but what does he have to run on? The economy isn't good, unemployment isn't good, the National debt isn't good, and a lot of people are hurting right now. Since all politics are local, even national elections, you have to remember this country is pretty large. You may see your location is doing OK, but the majority of the country isn't doing OK. That doesn't bode well for Obama, no matter who his opposition is. In many people's minds, their next door neighbor would be better than Obama.
I realize the left/democrats are doing everything they can to demonize Romney, but in the long run it's not going to help. Romney may be so/so, but the alternative has proved himself to be anything but good in many people's minds...
O-I-H-O
The picture is the mirror image (negative)
O-H-I-O
Brianb
Um, Brian, lack of qualitative balance in the descriptives. That should read ... and looked a lot ... foolish
Is it true that at the RNC, they are allowed to 'pack heat'?
So let's see, Rand supporters will be numb when they are threatened by the 'gun packing" crowd!
Forrest,
I am afraid your right, but everything you said about Romney, you can say about Obama. If Obama wins, its not because he is the best for our country it will because Romney wasn't. Its a no win for many, and we will be stuck with a very different president then the one we had in 2008. Yes he is a likable guy, but not trustworthy.
NoJo
Here is your chance to do a Sunday do-over. Go for it gal, make us proud.
Do you read, Dennis? If it were a mirror image, Obama's watch would be on his right hand, not his left, which is where it is.
The tee shirt guy's shirt would be backwards, which it is not.
Obama is just dumb, that's all. Intercontinental railroad, Maldives, 57 states. . .
No wonder his transcripts are a state secret. It appears his working I.q. Is somewhere between doorknob and turnip.
Too soon to tell...only one poll is out there with any post-foot-in-mouth results and it's from PPP which has Akin +1. Of course, there's controversy about PPP leaning left and did they game the poll as it was from Monday only pre-apology and pre-GOP hierarchy weighing in telling Akin it should be game over.
We'll wait to see when other organizations have more numbers.
You know that there are 57 states and territories of the United States, right?
NJNB -
Romney may know how to read a spreadsheet, but apparently he doesn’t know how to use Spell-check.
It’s hard to imagine someone running for President of the United States (of America) who doesn’t know how to spell – “Amercia”, “Ronald Regan”, “Sneak-Peak”, “2012 OFFICAL GEAR”…..
...all from the official Romney website or offical Romney apps....
and for all you "Concerned" Conservative posters, the proper spellings are:
America - Ronald Reagan - Sneak Peek - Official Gear
Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!
Romney/Ryan: Medicare? We Can
FixEnd That!...which, of course, explains why he was elected President of Harvard Law Review.
The conservatives are getting desperate, they've resurrected the 57 states again--ignoring, of course, there are a total of 50 states and 7 territories with primary elections.
I really can't get worked up about the Labor Department ads because I don't see much difference between our Defense Dept and Armed Forces spending money on TV commercials (all expenditures are stimulus in one way or another). Can't even get worked up at the idea that Bush and the GOP probably did the same. For one thing, the specifics of the ad aren't mentioned. For another, pushing the idea of green, renewable energy manufacturing sources is a good thing not a bad. The country was in an economic hole, a near depression; it was important for people to know our President was doing many things to help and this was one of those things; and, in the process, promoting a new energy source to move us away from energy sources that once gone can never be replaced.
Coming from someone who thinks being raped stops a woman from ovulating?
*ZING* lol
Give old Snookie an aspirin and wish her luck!
Joanne said:
Brian, you should read your own posts, since you included the link that answers your own question in it:
"The poll interviewed 706 registered Wisconsin voters by both landline and cell phone August 16-19, 2012. The margin of error is +/- 3.8 percentage points for the full sample. There are 576 “likely voters,” i.e., those who said they were certain to vote in the November elections, with a margin of error for this group being +/- 4.2 percentage points. The entire questionnaire, full results, and breakdowns by demographic groups are available at http://law.marquette.edu/poll."
I was making a point of the way First Read will throw in anything to try to boost Obama in their daily barrage of sucking up to the president. This poll is insignificant. It certainly isn't Pew, Quinapac, NY Times, or any of another major polls. I'll bet they had to dig long and hard to find a poll showing Obama was leading in Wisconsin. Let's see what a real poll says about it...
Well, this is going to be quite a hoot, mitt and paulie may not carry either of their home states, WI is not looking much friendlier to paulie girl than MA is to mittens, and I know first hand how the working/middle class feels about mittens in MA - they were all happy he was gone the last two years he was in office there and most think he committed voter fraud because they don't think really lived there when he ran for governor and voted in that election.
Brian,
In Wisconsin
CNN/Opinion Research – Obama +4
CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac – Obama +6
Rasmussen Reports – Romney +1
PPP (D) – Romney +1
Marquette University – Obama +3
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/wi/wisconsin_romney_vs_obama-1871.html
same polls that said walker would get thrown out?
how did that turn out for ya?
@Brianb I have never said Obama is unbeatable, I am saying that I think Romney is not the guy that can beat him. They bailed out on Akin real quick, as soon as they saw that many people were left staring at him like Amish people at Circuit City over his remarks. He has followers, he was elected to six terms, he does represent the GOP platform on this issue and it is a huge issue for many republicans, so now maybe the people that do support him feel he was bullied on Romney's behalf, that won't make them vote for Obama, but it certainly does not create enthusiasm for Romney. I have never before seen the RNC make a statement that the republican candidate for president does not share their platform, that can't help Romney. It is just more damage control, because the republican brand is damaged in a lot of ways, which brings me to my last point and that is that the general electorate does not hold Obama exclusively responsible for all our problems, republicans have had control of the house for two years and republicans in the senate have used the filibuster an astounding number of times, I feel the general electorate believes they have plenty of responsibility for the current situation.
@ Thetotas I disagree with you, Obama is and will be seen as immensely more trustworthy than Romney. Romney has over the years (even months) taken every position possible on the issues as suited his political needs, this is well documented, he has been for this before he was against this, he was against that before he was for that, the list is endless. I could debate him and leave him twisting in the wind trying to explain his many self contradictions on any number of issues. What if somebody simply asks the question what is in your taxes that you are so reluctant to show the American public. Even the RNC has said our platform is not his platform. Why? Is it that their platform is toxic to his candidacy, or is his candidacy is toxic to their platform. I have never seen a move like that before, if the republican nominee does not represent the republican platform, why not run Romney as an independent, I think even Ron Paul will have a ball with that one if the GOP does not kidnap him and lock him in a hotel room for a couple of days, during the convention. Basically the RNC just told republicans you just have to vote for him because we hate Obama and he is all we got, but he is not really one of us, I can't see that helping Romney any. I don't think Obama will be a different president than he was this term, and that is another big problem for Romney people don't know what they are getting he won't allow it, and the RNC just told many republicans they are not getting what they want, they told them Romney has his own platform.
Jody said: The conservatives are getting desperate, they've resurrected the 57 states again--ignoring, of course, there are a total of 50 states and 7 territories with primary elections.
There's no desperation on our part. We resurrect these things as comic relief. You do have to admit that for the Law Review, Smartest Guy in the room, to say there's 57 states is pretty damn funny! He never mentioned territories in his speech. You libs can't take a joke, can you... well you do take Biden all the time and he's the biggest joke this country knows!
Dennis wrote:
In Wisconsin
CNN/Opinion Research – Obama +4
CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac – Obama +6
Rasmussen Reports – Romney +1
PPP (D) – Romney +1
Marquette University – Obama +3
All within the margin of error. There's no big wins in these polls at all. If these polls are current, why hasn't First Read touted them? I don't feel like going to look up the last dates of these polls, but again I will make my point... For an incumbent president to be within the margin of error this far from an election, doesn't stand well for him. Look at past histories of incumbent presidents... Obama should be beating the margin... and he's not. Even with a damaged republican party, these numbers are way too close for anyone's comfort, especially Obama's.
Brian you do realize that Romney will automatically get 40% from all the crazy people in our electorate who wouldn't vote for Ronald Reagan if he ran with his same platform but as a Dem? This is a batsh*t crazy country we live in anymore where people actually think Dubya wasn't the worst President in History even though he allowed 911 to happen, started two wars that he kept off budget, ran up a huge debt and had the worst job creation record of any President since Herbert Hoover.
Goodtimesbadtimes - Just as a point of reference... Dubya isn't running. History is past, whatever your personal views of what happened is, they are personal. There's no standard in any of our history these days. History is what you perceive it as from whatever political viewpoint you take. In otherwords, you can argue the way you want, and I can argue the way I want... no matter what our viewpoints are personally, it is what it is according to your perception.
Like i said the other day Ryan has turned into Palin in a cheap suit ...
He's NO Paul Bunyan... that's fer sure!
He's Palin in a pantsuit minus the lipstick!
Brian,
All in the margin of error = Tossup – Duh !
Actually i was gona comment on it ...The baseball hat and the flannel shirt was very " lesbian slacker chic "
I saw that, then you edited it! lol
I was contemplating being put on restriction again for 2 weeks ...then said ah what the hell ! ;-)
There are two conventions and four debates left. Historically each party gets a "bump" with their conventions. That will leave the four debates. The debates will depend on what questions are asked. All four candidates have their own damage to overcome during these debates. They will be fighting for the 8% still undecided. All depends on if they will get softball questions or hardball questions. The softball questions will best be answered by Obama and Biden since the "best liked" can answer those best. The hardball questions will be harder for those who flip-flop and answer to the crowd they are talking too. I guess we will just have to wait and see what the outcome will be.
Joe Republican: I suspect we suspect those suspects don't suspect that we suspect they are suspects.
Democrat: I am sure you are mentally ill.
I have to wonder if anyone reads antthing these days. Romney and Ryan seem to be able to say anything ..and truth is not considered something to say between them. Do voters really want a Romney Ryan pair in washington ? Does anyone read what they want to do..and who it WILL effect..and who it will not.?? I have to guess that the majority of republicans no longer consider women to have rights..or that they should have good health insurances . I already realize that no church considers women to have rights if it is to cost the church a dime. It must go against their religion to provide protection for them. Of course..most arab nations think that way...
I have to also assume that voters today want the wealthy telling them what they have to do..and how to do it. Neither congressional party is worthy of the money we pay them ..but to use our tax dollars to pay for them to be beholding to the wealthy is not right. Everything Romney and Ryan have come up with gives much more to their wealthy friends...not one of the cuts they talk so much about effects anyone but the middle class and the poor. I wonder how long before he and Ryan are telling us all we are paid too much money....after all..Romney and the company he worked for outsoursed many of the jobs this country has lost. Lets not forget that he also side steped the tax laws in this country. And now he wants even the income he has to claim not taxed...great for him..bad for the rest of the nation...I have to wonder just waht the cost to this nation will be if Romney is elected ? Bush ran up a huge debt..Romney and the republicans want to do it again...can hardly wait.
It will be interesting to see the polls once the Akin/Romney collusion is well vetted, as well as the interview comments Romney made on his Vietnam draft avoidance challenge - his being destined for greater things. Let's hope the DNC keeps pounding these issues in their ads along with Romney's taxes, and the truth about the R&R boys Medicare plan - a lot of ammo not being used yet.
Wisconsin bought Walker's budget and jobs BS hook, line, and sinker, and oh by the way, I believe WI led the nation again in jobs lost last month and had the greatest increase in unemployment also. We need to also be concerned about Tammy Baldwin winning over Tommy Thomson as most WI Repubs voted for Walker to lower their taxes yet most also voted to approve school referendums that raised their property taxes because Walker de-funded the schools so much. Not sure if WI Repubs will figure out that they're going to pay even more for WI education with Ryan de-funding education another 20%.
Go figure.
oopsey
doosey, daisy.
Does anyone on FR know if it is true that Romney's FAMILY wanted Ryan and overruled the staff on it?
Seems a curious pick, and that had been posted somewhere.
Wasn't Annie on the Committee?......Annie and Sons?
I can see it now----Secretary of State recommends certain negotiations but the "family" says no. Why have professional staff if you are going to ignore them?
I think Rafalca wanted to stop dancing and get out of that darn tutu. Get some trail riding in and Ryan was dressed just right.
Poor Ralfaca needs a good turn out into a large pasture where she can be a real horse. But Queen Ann wants to have Ralfaca bred.
Anything to make the taxpayer pick up the bill for your "therapy horse" right Annie?
Marquette's polling was more accurate in Wisconsin than all other polling in Wisconsin during the recall election.
Understanding history, today I am even more convinced of a resounding Romney victory. 32 years ago at this moment in time, Reagan was losing by 9 points to Carter. Romney is right now running even in polls. So why do most pollsters give Obama the edge?
First, most pollsters are missing one ingredient- common sense. Here is my gut instinct. Not one American who voted for McCain 4 years ago will switch to Obama. Not one in all the land. But many millions of people who voted for an unknown Obama 4 years ago are angry, disillusioned, turned off, or scared about the future. Voters know Obama now- and that is a bad for Obama!
Below are most of the NBC FR from this Morning. I wouldn't expect anything else from NBC Liberal Media.
Is there anything that mentions anything positive for Romney/Ryan? Is their anything negative for OBAMA?
I guess we can call NBC the (FPAC) Free Pac for OBAMA. Not even mentioning that the race is allot closer than anybody would have imagine. Some time pictures tell the whole story.
You aint changing this Mind and the others that see thru the propraganda. Shame on you!
Don't worry you still have folks that think you are not Liberal enough. My girlfriends Feisty and SeekingSanitation are jus but a few.
Poll: Obama leads Romney in Wisconsin after Ryan pick
Ryan backed more than one 'forcible rape' abortion bill
Ryan 'comfortable' with Romney's stance on abortion rights
GOP brand suffers heading into election season
Obama leads big with Latinos, but enthusiasm still lags
First Thoughts: Not your ordinary August poll
2012: The other new national poll
Marching orders are not to talk about the economy. Not at all.
"NBC" is a line-item on the asset sheet for the Obama campaign. Right next to CNN, CBS, ABC, PBS, NY Times, Washington Post, . . . .
Concern, as soon as there's something positive to report on Romney/Ryan, I'm sure MSNBC will report it. But right now your party has some serious ideology issues that don't play well anywhere but on the far right. I'm surprised an intelligent and well-read woman such as yourself would want your health decisions made by a bunch of pale-stale-males!
ursula are you kidding me nbc and the other libs have an obvious bias towards obama come on
And yet you still have yet to explain to me the merits (if there are even any) of even more trickle-down economics. You want this to be about the economy, until it is apparently. Then you just don't respond.
JAS1-
Whose marching orders - Romney's? So far he and his little sidekick have talked about Welfare, Medicare, "guns and religion", Joe Biden and "chains", and Joe the Plumber, mixed in with the occasional Obama phrase taken out of context.
Where are their economic plans? They can't even agree on what Medicare plan they are in favor of!
......and who brought up that whole "legitimate rape" thing again? I don't think it was NBC, I think it was a Fox affiliate in MO.
Fox News is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Republican party. The other subsidiaries include the Wall Street Journal, Clear Channel radio stations, the Washington Times, the New York Post, the Chicago Tribune, and the National Review.
See how easy it is to dispel the myth of the "liberal media"?
Paul Ryan - The Deficit? I Built That!
i can't even vote yet - You do realize that the media (including MSNBC) are businesses out to make a profit, right? So they'll report on the most sensational stories in the most salacious manner to grab the biggest piece of the market. Right now in politics, the Republican war on women's rights is a big deal (unless of course you're in the June Cleaver/Harriet Nelson league). But my guess is you're a bit young for that so I'm wondering why you support a party that's stuck in the 50's.
Pat Robertson admits that the hurricane bearing down on the Republican convention is a sign from God. If they don't confess their sins before Monday they will all be washed out to sea. There sure ain't enough time for that, so enjoy Hell, you GOP Rat bastards.
It looks as if Concern has added to her software keeping track of MSNBC articles and marking them liberal or conservative is the latest in a long line of....I don't know...."watch lists".
News Flash: If conservatives don't like the news on this web site, then go to FOX where they'll be sure to spin it the way you like it. Otherwise, quit whining; it makes you sound about 4 years old--no offense to 4 yr olds.
JoAnnaSmith1
Marching orders are not to talk about the economy. Not at all.
Oh no you didn't go there!!! Neither Romney nor Ryan can talk about the economy.
Romney: gov job creation 47 out of 50 states
Romney: Vulture capitalist outsourced jobs. BTW how many jobs did R-money create at Bain?
Romney: had the worst record in a decade in MA.
President Obama has created more jobs than BUSH
Even with today’s disappointing and troubling jobs report, private sector job creation under President Obama has far exceeded private sector job creation under President Bush. 40 months into his presidential term, there are currently more private sector jobs in the economy than when Obama came into office. At the same point in President Bush’s term, the total number of private sector jobs was still down 1.7 percent from where it began.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/01/493849/obama-bush-jobs-record/
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Of course, you know Ryan is part of the recalcitrant T-Banger GOP which voted down the J-O-B-S bill 20 times.
i can't even vote - let me be the first to say we're glad you can't vote yet. You really need to learn about issues before you vote so you won't sound so foolish.
Concern - you and I would NEVER be friends. I choose my friends more carefully and don't like close-minded people who just spout nonsense. You talk nothing BUT propaganda fed to you by the GOP. In your ignorance you eat it up! Truly pathetic!
Obama/Biden 2012
So let's talk about the economy and that Ryan budget.
Here is what Paul Krugman had to say about it, I know he is hard-core liberal but his points are hard to argue....
Paul Ryan - The Deficit? I Built That!
Looks like there is at least one journalist who disagrees with all the liberals on this board
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/21/tapper_media_helped_tip_the_scales_for_obama.html
In other news, Tapper revealed that water is wet and the sun rises in the east.
Obama helped a little. Okay, a lot.
It appears Nancy had something to do with it too, because during her 4 year reign, she chalked up $5 Trillion in new debt. I guess that's "pay as you go" in her book.
I didn't know Nancy Pelosi could single-handedly borrow money on behalf of the United States without the approval of Congress. By the way, keep dodging the topic of Ryan's plans for the economy, because after all, it's all about the economy.
Funny SS i was thinking the same thing about you. I would never be friends with someone who calls everyone stupid who has a different viewpoint than theirs. Now that is ill-mannered and close-minded.
Did Mr. Krugman (Nobel Prize winner in 2008, probably won the Heisman at some point too) discuss Obama's budget in any detail? Any mention of how many votes Obama's last two budgets got in Congress?
Did Mr. Krugman (Nathan's Hot dog eating champion 2005,2006) discuss the Senate's counter proposal budget to the House/Ryan budget? You know, the Senate budget that doesn't exist.
And approve they did, all under Nancy's "pay-as-you-go" leadership. It's in the Constitution, right?
Our hosts do report the positive stuff on Romney/Ryan.....
They raise a LOT OF MONEY!...There, that's positive.......
JoAnnaSmith seems irritated that the Ryan Plan is garbage and there's nothing she can do to disprove that. Hence why she won't talk about it.
Good gosh, bring up the economy, and it's like someone hit the Bev-ster with 220 volts of electricity.
Clean up on aisle 4.
JAS1 -
Paul Ryan voted for the Bush tax cuts, the Bush Medicare expansion, No Child Left Behind, and supported both of Bush's wars. Did Nancy Pelosi?
Paul Ryan ALSO voted for the 2008 stimulus package, the TARP bailouts, the auto bailouts,and the 2009 stimulus.
So Paul Ryan SHOULD be an expert on the debt and deficits - He voted for ALL the major legislation that caused it!!
and since according to the Republicans if something happens it is up to the individual, not the government, then it IS true that ....
Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!
President Obama has presented a budget proposal every year, the House has failed to putit into legislation. You do know how that works, right? President proposes, Congress legislates....
as to Krugman and his opinon of President Obama's economic plan, he agreed with a majority of economists who predicted that the stimulus package was too small and would result in slow economic growth.
JoAnnaSmith1
Tell me JAS, which plan for a woman's right to control her body are you in favour of, Ryan's or Romney's?
Bring up the economy and the Ryan Plan, and you go onto full-bore deflection mode. Comedy gold, really.
Typical republican, pass the blame
Cat, No Jo, Mirror image negative, the President is left handed and wears his wedding ring left hand, his watch left wrist. Who looks foolish now.
Obama 2012
Anyone else think Romney lays awake at night thinking what could have been, if he'd picked Rubio? Like maybe winning Florida.
Amy B. Portland, ME
Really Amy, you and those with your ideas would have done the same if Romney would have picked Obama's Twin Brother. And you have NBC's help.
Concern Citizen-856329
You are hands down the smartest Republican who posts here. SeekingSanity is just so wrong about that.
blackcatwhitecat- LMAO!!!! Good one!
Obama/Biden 2012
blackcatwhitecat, thanks but not thanks. I'm trully not a Republican, but actually a register Democrat that votes as an Independent.
SeekingSanitation, I did not know you were for OBAMA, lol. It now makes sense why all you do is make fun of others idea and try to make the opponent the evil woman haters, and seniors haters.
At least blackcat will post points that have to be analysed, however with you is just nonsense and that silly Obama/Biden 2012 rant.
tsk...tsk....tsk...How can someone vote for for people that want to take from the working people and give to the rich? I don't think anyone of us on this cpu right now is in the top 1 to 2 percent of wage earners. I will not put a gun to my head and pull the trigger, or become someone who doesn't care for me sicide bomber.
there are lots of those people. For instance, Hollywood is mainly Democrats and they are rich. I also know those who are not rich and are republicans. I understand the actors being Democrats because actors are activists and very open minded, and the republicans that are not rich are republicans because they are very closed minded and inhibited.
Hollywood is mainly Democrats because they understand where their money comes from. If they vote Republican they won't make any money. Is why most people seem stupid that vote republican. Rich are not going to go into you're stores and buy food and other items. Poor people and middle class are the ones that do that. They are the ones that go to the movies and buy the music and everything else.
If middle class and poor can't spend money on those things, those people loose money. Paul Ryan for instance should scare anyone that doesn't have over a few million. If he wins and you have a small business, when those people stop buying your screwed. You have no back up and if he does what he says. You wont be able to get welfare or anything if everything fails on you.
People really need to think on who they pick. If you got the money that you don't have to worry about falling go repub. If you don't have the money, you vote agaisnt you're well being that's on you. I notice people seem to forget repub congress turned down everything Obama tried to push for the past 4 years. They act as if this stuff never happened, They still doing the same thing.
that is I will not be like a suicide bomber for anyone.. that is what the working class will be like if they vote repub.
I knew what you meant. A middleclass worker who votes Republican, is like a father agreeing to let his daughter go to Vegas with Prince Harry. "Oh, we're just going to play billards, Daddy."
Not a wise decision.
If by middle class you mean pays no taxes and gets govt checks than of course.. if by middle class you mean some one who provides for family actually pays taxes and gets no benefits from which he gives to than thats a different story...that middle class is under assualt by bozo and co. no longer
"The middle class that actually pays taxes and gets no benefits from which he gives" is a fairy tale of the first order. Last year, due to tax breaks subsidized by other taxpayers, families of 4 could make $50,000 a year and pay no income tax. Every life choice these people have made has been subsidized by other taxpayers.
They own homes, for which non-homeowners generously contribute towards their interest payments and property taxes, both deductable on the Federal tax return.
They have children that have gone to higher education, subsidized other taxpayers, and have had their interest payments subsidized by other taxpayers.
Every time they decide to have another child, other taxpayers give them an exemption, allow them to write off a portion of their daycare costs, and even the bill for the delivery itself, all at the expense of fellow taxpayers.
Every contribution to their selected house of worship, the symphony, the opera, and political group, all funded by deductions made possible by other taxpayers.
And before you bring out the "50% don't pay income taxes", I'll save you the trouble. Nearly 1/2 of Americans don't pay income taxes, and most of them use at least one of the deductions listed above. Also, income taxes account for about 44% of the Federal government's revenues. 40% of the government's revenues come from the very regressive payroll taxes. The vast majority of the payroll taxes are paid by the working poor and middle class, those that supposedly don't pay any taxes.
And how exactly is that mythical middle class under assault by Obama? Their tax rates haven't increased, they have had a reduction in payroll taxes, they are receiving benefits under the affordable care act and haven't paid a dime towards it yet, private sector job growth is higher than it was through the first 4 years of the Bush adminstration, more private sector jobs created in the last 4 years than in the previous 8, we aren't losing 750,000 jobs per month, the average middle class family's 401k is up over 40% in 3 1/2 years. I don't see where Obama has been assaulting the middle class.
All you Obama loving Leftist Neo-Crats Need to go read the Article in Neewsweek as to why Obama must go. That is if you can read with impartialality and if you can read it without getting a head ache. It is by a former Clinton aid who is now a professor. Good reading and Spells it out in black and white just how big a bumbler Obama is
Article written by a republican operative, surprised Newsweek ran with it.
Obama 2012
Reagan ran for president in 1994? How is that possible, Mr. O'Brien?
waves to Chris. Still no Chocodiles sold on the east coast.
Hey, Amy, you sexy lighthouse!
Nope. We're still waiting for Hostess to come to their senses and sell them here.
So when will Ryan do the decent and honorable thing and take the same advice he gave Mr. Akin and decline the Republican VP Nomination? After all, Ryan and Akin are two peas in a pod.
When Obama does as he promised he would if his Presidency turned out to be a great big flop. When is Obama going to decline the nomination for President on the Democratic ticket?
conser, with friends like McConnell, Boehner and the rest of the republican party of no decides work for the good of the country and stop filibustering everything in sight.
Obama 2012
So three months ago Obama was ahead by 8 points from likely voters and since then Romney has closed the gap considerably. Yet everyone here is celebrating this as a win for Obama. That's funny...
Can't wait till this dumb-a$$ election is over and Obama is still prez. Then these two snakes can slink back under the rock they slithered out from under.
Poll: Romney Leads Obama in Wisconsin after Ryan Pick:
Public Policy Polling (D) poll, from yesterday: Romney 48%, Obama 47%
In Wisconsin
CNN/Opinion Research – Obama +4
CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac – Obama +6
Rasmussen Reports – Romney +1
PPP – Romney +1
Marquette University – Obama +3
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/wi/wisconsin_romney_vs_obama-1871.html
MSN Headline says AFTER Ryan pick...he was chosen on the 11th of August, so you're going to have to throw that best Obama poll out, sorry, the CBS one taken in July.
I do NOT have to do anything for you !!!!!!!
That's the attitude Dennis. Denial, it's the same as Obama.
Lol, ok Dennis boy....it just makes your post absurd.
"Oh yah! You're trying to disprove the MSN Headline about a poll saying Romney is down after the Ryan pick?!!! Well I got me a poll taken 2 weeks before the Ryan pick that backs up the headline! So, there!"
Yah, good job.
Chesty,
All talk … No link, No proof, No evidence
From the Party of NO
It's in your link, stupid, click on it and read the date for the CBS poll.
I see your back and still dirtying up the real WWII Hero Chesty Puller's name, go home mutt.
Obama 2012
I just spent 3 months up there. I could not find one person who would re-elect OBOLOGNA! Where do you get your poll numbers?
pappy, who cares, what you did or didn't do. Stop with the vulgar name characterizations, makes you look more like a fool than you already are.
Obama 2012
I live here dumb azz and if Obama loses here it will be the direct result of the public employee unions doing the recall of Walker. They spent a lot of money and they lost and and in WI we believe in elections and you leave them alone until the next election. The president was smart to just stay out of it and also keep Biden's mouth shut. Ryan is an intellectual wimp, so what he read one book written by a nut case. Frank Loyd Wright thought she was a nut case and he is the one she is writing about. What did they do pull your trailer up there Pappy, all the way from where Mississippi. Obama will win here, not because he is a good President, it is because the republican party is the now the party of the Klan/sorry tea baggers and the Christian Taliban and WI doesn't like that, watch Tommy Thompson will win cause he is seen as a moderate.
All I heard everywhere I went was cursing Obama and Biden jokes. Taken a REID and wiping their Polosi. Thats a tough state.
Pappy, we can't help it that you stayed in a trailer park.
Another poll from the left which shows Americans favor Romney/Ryan.
I know what the headline said. Romney is within the margin of error, which means he's leading. And just wait until November when we still have:
high energy costs
high unemployment
slower growth
That's when the poll which really counts will give us a Romney/Ryan landslide.
cons, higher energy costs, talk to the Koch Boys, high unemployment talk to Boehner, Jobs Bill remember.
Obama 2012
Conservative Rebel,
All the data that I've collected shows them tied, dead heat possibly favoring/ leaning Mittsey.
If Mittsey and sidekick wins, it most decidedly would not be by a landslide.
skyparrot,
if by jobs bill you mean that payoff to the unions stimulus bill he called a "Jobs" bill then yes we remember. I also remember actually reading it and exposing it for what it was provision by provision.
It was so bad that Reid had to rewrite it just to get it onto the floor of the senate. No we haven't forgotten.
this must be the same poll that predicted Scott Walker would lose recall vote!!!!!HAHAHA and the same poll that predicted democrats would win big in 2010!!!!! HAHAHA
ONE and DONE!!!
Colorado University has done statistical analysis which has accurately predicted every presidential election since 1980 and it says Romney is CRUSHING hussein!!!!
ONE AND DONE
steeevno, you gutless worthless piece of garbage he is the president of the USA and his name is not hussein, remember that was the man with all of the weopons of mass destruction we went to war over. I love the 2nd ammendment and I am good man I want to put one right between your eyes. just ONE and then YOU will be DONE
IN HIS OWN WORDS YET! DESPICABLE! I GUESS BEING WHITE WE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!!
What do you think would have happened IF a Caucasian president had ever produced and published a You Tube video for ALL WHITE PEOPLE to unite for a WHITE PRESIDENT.
Seriously, what do you think would have happened?
In my opinion, this is the MOST SIGNIFICANT DEMONSTRATION of INTENTIONAL DIVISIVE RACISM by ANY PRESIDENT in the history of OUR COUNTRY that I recall having seen.
WHOSE PRESIDENT IS HE?
THIS IS A DANGEROUS VIDEO.
Obama announces the 2012 launch of African Americans for Obama.
This is what racism smells like. It can't be explained away.
Would you vote for a white person who did this?
I wouldn't, and I think they would be run right out of town if they tried it.
This is just some food for thought if you're pondering your vote in November.
Can you imagine Santorum or Romney, Newt or Paul putting out a call for all the white brothers and sisters to vote for him because he's white?
If this video is not alarming to you, simply delete.
If you are offended by what's taking place, please pass it on.
You need to eat some chicken and watermelon and just chill bro. You're about to blow a gasket.
obama grants amnesty to one million illegals!!!!!!!
The
owner of the Phoenix Suns basketball team,
Robert
Sarver, came out strongly opposing AZ's new immigration laws.
Arizona 's
Governor, Jan Brewer,
released the following statement in response to Sarver's
criticism of the new law:
"What if the
owners of the Suns discovered that hordes of people were sneaking into games
without paying?
What if they had a good idea who the gate-crashers are but
the ushers and security personnel were not allowed to ask these folks to produce
their ticket stubs,
thus non-paying attendees couldn't be ejected.
Furthermore, what if Suns'
ownership was expected to provide those who sneaked in with complimentary eats
and drink?
And what if, on the days when a gate-crasher became ill or
injured, the Suns had to provide free medical care and shelter?"
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer
Jan Brewer needs a good lay.
Gross. You volunteer. I think I'm gonna puke.
The AZ law has been overturned. Their Voter ID law has ALSO been overturned. Sheriff Joe is STILL under investigation for still another possible violation of the law!
It seems that AZ refuses to follow the laws of the United States, then throws a hissyfit when reminds them the law is the law! Arizonans who want to be allowed to break the law, including their esteemed governor, would do better to cross the border!
the Romney/Ryan Medicare proposal will NOT affect anyone currently 55 or older!!!!! Medicare will remain UNCHANGED in any way for those people. Obama has CUT $718 billion from Medicare to pay for his obamacare so if he is reelected Medicare will be CUT for existing seniors!!!!! THAT is a fact. obama won't even admit to his own actions because he is trying to win by LYING!!!!!
Sorry you were misinformed
It will hurt people now over 55
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/dems-to-gop-stop-lying-to-seniors-that-republican-budget-wont-impact-current-medicare-beneficiaries.php
Please read. And then please think about what you read. And, then you should be able to type or open your mouth and response like an intelligent person. Many, Many Republicans are saying that Romney is wrong with this issue. President Obama is not cutting Medicare for seniors.
hey steeeeeeeeeeeevno:
So, you wanna screw the younger people??
Just imagine, if the last 3 GOP presidents had NOT signed TWENTY deficit riddled budgets, we wouldnt HAVE a debt crisis. And before you start going off on Obama, if Bush had NOT left Obama with a $1.3T deficit, we wouldnt be RUNNING deficits the last 3 years. The GOP ran up all this debt for their stated reason of privatizing SS and Medicare. They endangered the security of the United States and its financial satability for the sake of a political victory!! It was NO accident.
There were NO BENEFIT CUTS in Obamacare. The End!
why is obama still hiding his college records? did he apply as foreign student? did he get busted selling coke?
did Michelle obama have an abortion?
God, I hope so.
why must you spew hate just because the Internet provides anonymity. It is so easy to be an screen thug. Just wrong. This helps noone.
steevno and A. Gent Orange. Going to far is just going to far and you both just did it.
steve, no!! did you?? :P
why is obama hiding his passport? too many trips to Muslim countries???
GOP convention
GOP Approves ‘Most Conservative Platform In Modern History’
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/22/723241/gop-approves-most-conservative-platform-in-modern-history/?mobile=nc