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ROANOKE, VA -- Presumptive Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan became the latest politician to weigh in on the ongoing controversy surrounding Rep. Todd Akin’s (R-MO) comments about "legitimate rape.”
In an interview with the CBS Pittsburgh affiliate KDKA, Ryan tried to distance himself from Akin, with whom he once co-sponsored a bill to re-define "forcible rape," asserting on Tuesday night that “rape is rape.”
“His statements were outrageous, over the pail. I don’t know anybody who would agree with that. Rape is rape period, end of story,” Ryan told KDKA
And asked if abortions should be available to women who are raped, the seven-term Wisconsin congressman said he stands by his record.
“Look, I’m proud of my pro-life record. And I stand by my pro-life record in Congress. It’s something I’m proud of. But Mitt Romney is the top of the ticket and Mitt Romney will be president and he will set the policy of the Romney administration,” Ryan said.
Akin, the Missouri congressman who is currently running for Senate, sparked a firestorm this week when he said if a woman is a victim of "legitimate rape," her body can shut itself down in order to prevent pregnancy.
Rep. Todd Akin, R-Mo., confirms with TODAY's Matt Lauer that vice presidential candidate and fellow congressman Paul Ryan advised him to step down amid the fallout of comments he made about rape and abortion.
Many top Republicans called for Akin to exit the race for so that the GOP would have a better chance of winning this key Senate race. Akin confirmed on the TODAY Show Wednesday morning that Ryan himself called Akin and personally asked him to withdraw from the race.
“Paul Ryan did give me a call and he felt that I had to make a decision. He advised me that it would be good for me to step down,” Akin said in the interview with NBC’s Matt Laur. “I told him that I was going to be looking at this very seriously, trying to weigh all the different points on this—and that I would make the decision. Because it’s not about me. It’s about trying to do the right thing and standing on principle. “
Neither Romney nor Ryan have addressed the Akin comments on the stump this week. Ryan spent Wednesday morning in Virginia – his fourth day in the state in the 12 days he has been running as Romney’s VP – highlighting just how important the commonwealth is in winning the election this November for Republicans.
“I’ve been coming to Virginia a lot these days, if you haven’t noticed that,” Ryan said, adding later that Virginia has a key role in saving “the American idea.”
“It is not too late to ignite the American dream. We can do this. We need the leadership now. We need to win this election. And Virginians of all people have a unique responsibility and an opportunity to deliver Virginia and save the American idea," he said.
And Ryan was quick to play the part of the attack dog for the GOP ticket accusing President Obama of touting an “imaginary recovery.”
The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd breaks down the latest NBC News/ WSJ poll.
“We've got 23 million people out of work, struggling to find work today, unemployment has been above 8 percent for 42 months, and the real unemployment rate is more like 15 percent,” Ryan said about the Obama-Biden administration while speaking outside Northwest Hardware. “He said that the private sector is doing just fine, we need more government. This is President Obama's imaginary recovery. It's not here.”
Ryan now heads to North Carolina where he will hold two public campaign events there over the next two days.
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Paulie gets a "pants on fire" trophy for this little LIE!
Here is what Paulie really believes when it comes to womens reproductive rights;
NO amount of crab-walking this backwards is gonna change a thing! ;o)
Ryan/Akin2012 - Representing compassionate, conservative, Christians, one vagina at a time!
'But Mitt Romney is the top of the ticket and Mitt Romney will be president and he will set the policy of the Romney administration,” Ryan said.
This is just another very clear example of what/who people are voting for in the coming election.
If Romney/Ryan have their way they will try to eliminate any/all forms of abortions
They will try to eliminate tax deductions for the middle / lower classes while increasing the deductions for the wealthiest people in the country.
They will try to eliminate Medicare.
They will try to eliminate Social Security
They will try to eliminate government restrictions on Wall Street
They will try to hamper people from becoming citizens of this country even if they have spent most if not all of their lives in this country.
They will try to eliminate most if not all government assistance to the poor
They are telling everyone these things in advance of the elections. Either they don't want to win this election or they are setting the stage to change this country from what we know into something that they envision as a better one. That alone should scare the heck out of all of us who love and appreciate what this country offers to everyone.
too late, the damage is done..
and people are now re-affirmed there is after all a 'war on women' by some politicians assiciated with the GOP
Lyin' Ryan is also against in-vitro fertilization.
And I understand some of Mitt Romney's offspring have used just that method to produce children.
Legislatin' for the under-class is sure complicated!
The GOP/RomneyRyan/"Small Government" crew will have to pay a lot more to dumb us down completely.
Wonder how Willard's son & his wife feel about that?
What is it with the GOP/TP and the word 'FORCE'. Too much of Luke Skywalker in their youth is the best answer I can come up with. They want to FORCE women to carry an unwanted zygote to birth. They want to FORCE women to have vagina probes. They want to FORCE people off Medicare. They want to FORCE the unemployed into starvation by taking away unemployment and food stamp programs. Someone really needs to clue in the extremist right-wing fragment of the GOP/TP party that the FORCE is not with them.
I am sick to death of these men who get rewarded with an election after humiliating their families, disrespecting women and taking advantage of women. It is disgusting. How will these men be rewarded?
Please, lets keep Bill Clinton out of the conversation. He's got to focus on the speech he'll be giving at his convention. The theme of the his speech is: "How We Democrats Love and Respect Women". Should be a classic.
Feisty - feel? think?
The idea is with enough Rove/Adelson Ads, no-one will feel or think.
Only Orwell's thinkspeak will be allowed.
(Another "smallgovernment" GOP/corporate crime.)
The same Bill Clinton who has an approval rating at almost 70%?
Can someone tell me the name of a single GNOPER who has an approval rating at 50% or higher?
Why so bitter today Snuffy..?
Just guessing Feisty, But I would bet the Trickle Down King St. Ronnie does. Although he is dead.
"asked if abortions should be available to women who are raped, the seven-term Wisconsin congressman said he stands by his record.
“Look, I’m proud of my pro-life record. And I stand by my pro-life record in Congress. It’s something I’m proud of. But Mitt Romney is the top of the ticket and Mitt Romney will be president and he will set the policy of the Romney administration,” Ryan said."
Hint to Congressman Ryan: It wasn't an essay question, or even a multiple choice. A simple "Yes" or "No" would have sufficed. Why is that so difficult?
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
NO amount of crab-walking this backwards is gonna change a thing! ;o)
Well, if the statements are so reprehensible why did Ryan co-author 2 bills?
Paul Ryan and Todd Akin Partnered on Radical "Personhood" Bill
Yesterday, Think Progress reported that Rep. Todd “Legitimate Rape†Akin (R-MO) and GOP vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan both cosponsored the bill that introduced America to the despicable term “forcible rape.†As it turns out, this may only be the second most sweeping attack on reproductive freedom that both men partnered on. Ryan and Akin also cosponsored a federal personhood bill, the Sanctity of Human Life Act of 2009, which declares that a fertilized egg is entitled to the exact same legal rights as a human being:
http://truth-out.org/news/item/11026-paul-ryan-and-todd-akin-partnered-on-radical-personhood-bill-outlawing-abortion-and-many-birth-control-pills
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Two idiots who think when a sperm meets the egg it's a person? And rape is legitimate?
Okay, idiots, Ryan & Akin take that fertilized egg and see if it can live outside the womb.
More importantly, how do you plan to help the egg to survive; should it survive? Certainly, not with your "war on women" i.e. no equal pay for women, cancelling education, and jobs.
4more 4 44
Obama/Biden 2012
Good point Devie!
I forgot to add breathing to my question!
Lets see, what do we got today on The First Reader - Polls, Akin, Fund Raising, more Polls, Rape.
How about something like:
None story I guess. Hey, lets talk about dogs on the roofs of cars!
devie, Feisty,
"Although he is dead." - ohh where is there a better St. R. line?
Seeing rape is a big issue these days maybe the newsies can get an interview with Junita Broadrrick, you know, to get her thoughts on the subject.
Do you put your dog on the roof of your car too JoAnna????? Looks like that's a definite Republican thing.
The follow-up question should have been, if "rape is rape" then why did you and Akin introduce the term "forcible rape"?
Which according to his record means "Hell No - they should not be available. If I had my way a fertilized egg would have the same rights as a person".
Why would a woman not believe that other's rights ended where her body began?
Paul Ryan - The Deficit? I Built That!
doesn't Ryan mean to say LEGITIMATE rape is rape? Just like it's spelled out in the Sanctity of Life Act, co-sponsored by Akin and Paul Ryan?
TNSEVOL,
Romney and Ryan didn't even BUILD their kids on their own - never mind the mansions they live in.
What a load of old bumf they do preach.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
just like dad - they are for it while they are against it. It all depends who they are talking to.
But seriously, who in their right mind would spend time trying to make in-vitro illegal anyway?
Bayllie,
The Vagina Nazi's...
JAS1,
He may have some respect issues with them but he sure does love them!
Hey, but all kidding aside our country and the world's economy was never better (at least in our lifetime). So lay off Bill. I sure love me some Bill! Heck, You should too! His personal life may have been a train wreck for short time but his public life was a gem.
The GOP has been going after Obama just like they did Bill. The GOP couldn't give a hoot in hell for this country. All they care about is the almighty dollar.
JoAnnaSmith1
Akin did this to himself. The Democrats did not hold Akin hostage, and torture him intil he made his comment. He said it and he believes in it.
And even Romney and Ryan are running away from Akin (or trying to) like he is a fast spreading venerial disease - yet you keep excusing the guy with every post you write.
Akin is a moron and a hypocrite that should not be allowed a public voice. He is offensive to all women. Live with it. And stop commenting on rape like it's something trivial - it's disgusting.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
they should seriously get laid - maybe that will help their obsession with vaginas.
JoAnnaSmith1
Please, lets keep Bill Clinton out of the conversation. He's got to focus on the speech he'll be giving at his convention. The theme of the his speech is: "How We Democrats Love and Respect Women". Should be a classic.
Yes Democrats do love and respect women by letting them choose, not telling what they can and should do with THEIR bodys by a bunch of men.
feisty red head, your own website nbc had reagan as 12 points over fifty while you man obama is a negative 27. i doubt that he is going to be reelected.
EARTH TO RYAN, EARTH TO RYAN!!
It's not only the comment about rape dude. :)
Doesn't Newsvine have a policy that you have to be 18 or older to participate here?
If NOT... they SHOULD!
The last thing we need around here are under-age trolls!
Ryan can say 'rape is rape' all he wants, he still thinks every sucessful sperm is precious. If he has his way, if you're unlucky enough to be raped and get pregnant, your only way out of carrying your attacker's child for 9 months is a rusty coat hanger in a back alley, or a jump from a high building.
In other words, he didn't answer the frickin' question AGAIN. These guys spend their entire careers ascribing to one particular ideology, and as soon as they get tapped for higher office, they run away from it and pretend it never happened. Ryan is also in Pennsylvania claiming to be a "Catholic Deer Hunter" and nobody asked him about his love affair with pro-abortion atheist Rand?
To keep abortion legal, socially liberal people need to adopt the conservative philosophy of limited government. It is what protects OUR rights.
inmissouri, only if we had government health care could he have that much power.
Paul Ryan - LIAR! Paul Ryan co-sponsored legislation on "forcible" rape. Period.
lvingbarefoot
what conservative limited government - there is no such thing!!!??? The Repubs have been working SOOOOOOO hard since 2010 to control vaginas, and gay marriage.
"Ryan tried to distance himself from Akin, with whom he once co-sponsored a bill to re-define "forcible rape," asserting on Tuesday night that “rape is rape.”"
Typical politican..say what you want others to hear..not what you mean. Ryan did not explain how he wishes to define Rape....or abortion for that matter. Since when does a politican have the right to govern the individual right of anyone..especially women...of course..most every church is doing the same things when it comes to the rights of women. Of course, today, only the wealthy have the ear of our elected..we poor voters get the left overs.
Putting the dog on the roof of the car may not be a Republican thing but it IS what sociopaths do.
Don't forget that also, they plan to eliminate regulations that protect the environment, the environment your kids will have to live in..
Ah...I see, having consensual sex with a woman is disrespecting her, but forcing her to submit to a non-medical vaginal probe or carry the results of a rape to term IS an example of respect.
First deflection then doublespeak...your masters should be proud.
Rape is rape - I can see that we will be able to count on Ryan to come up with an intellectual spin on these subjects.
JoAnna - You get crazier every day. I wasn't aware that Clinton raped anyone. He was a horn dog but I didn't vote for him to become Pope and I didn't want to marry him. He was a great President and remains relevant today - unlike Bush. By not speaking up against the comments Aiken made, you appear to approve of them and that just makes me sick.
"We've got 23 million people out of work, struggling to find work today, unemployment has been above 8 percent for 42 months, and the real unemployment rate is more like 15 percent.."
Well Paulie...your in congress, you should have been pursuing some job creating bills instead if trying to shove your christian views down America's throats, which is a blatant violation of the first amendment of the bill of rights.
You know, of course, that absolutely EVERYTHING Ryan says, especially at this point, is done for self-promotion and avoidance of negative impact.
Paul Ryan's actual actions have said quite different than what he is currently attempting to say.
So "Forceable rape"? I guess the other kind is cooperative rape where the woman is not an actual victim but willing participant. Rape is rape. The is no other kind of rape than forceable.
rape n. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.
Leave it to the GOP to reinvent the wheel and attempt to redefine the act of rape with a word that already lies within the definition. Its sort of like when people say oak wood. Most of us could figure oak is wood so just say the table is made of oak and be done with it.
The GOP is guilty of too much common sense. I would prefer my leaders possess uncommon sense, that which is acquired through a legitimate post secondary education.
What this political race has taught me is that though I am a lefty, I need to find me a woman from the right. They are not that bright to support a party that would keep them barefoot, pregnant and in the home birthin those babies and cookin mah vittles.
Dang left wing women want college degrees and the same rights we men folk enjoy and thats a dangerous thing. Who wants a woman that can think for herself on matters of importance like a lefty when you can have a woman that will sit at home with her legs open waiting for me to tell her what to think.
Heck if a woman on the right gets rape it could go either way, she may like it, you gotta force women on the left to be raped.
GOP? Really? Running from your own policies when they become public?
Good Paul. Thank you for sharing. Now why are you and your party focused more on who is having sex, who is getting married and who is having kids vs making sure ALL of those people have jobs. Small gov't also means staying out of my bedroom and my body. If I can't make a living how am I going to feed all those unwanted babies????
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His "rape is rape" comment is totally backpedaling. Doesn't he realize those interviews are recorded and so are the bills he sponsors??? If you really feel that way (for now) then stand up and amend that law to change "forcible rape" to simply "rape".
There should never be a window opened that prevents me from saying "no" at any point in my sexual interactions. There is no cut off point for changing your mind about sex!!!!!!
"Rape is rape." I guess that's true, Paul until you try to narrow the definition.
After all, Ryan, you are an emotionally unhealthy anti choicer aren't you? In your taliban like world, all women should be subservient to YOUR will.
The hypocrisy from right wing nuts like Ryan know no bounds. "Let's get the Federal Government off our backs", except for the most intimate decisions that families make.
Then it is YOUR will Ryan and no one else can gainsay it.
The problem with Akin is, he said out loud what the rest of them are whispering behind closed doors!
Akin is already talking about what the GOP's plans" really" are for America ! They must be having a fit!
Yeah and if the Weather Vane and Budget Boy get elected the they won't even bother with whispering or closed doors... more like megaphones and soap boxes.
Obama 2012/Romney 1040
The GOP Cult which includes Willard and Little Paul want to have placed on the front of all women is a stamp that reads, "Property of The United States Government."
Has any one seen the weird and sick stuff Ann Dunham was involved in??? That had to have had a perverse psychological impact on her children. Pretty sure it did.
new day
first off their argument is not to control women but the republicans believe that once the egg is fertalized it becomes a human being and since murder is a crime they believe that if you kill a child inside of a mother than it is pretty much murder. that is their argument and they want to make the killing of a baby illegal.
hey genius:
who cares what THEY believe...it is MY body.....they can believe anything they want.....what about THAT can't u understand.....no wonder u can't vote yet....grow up and let the adults talk in here...
i can't even vote yet:
See, what I have never understood is how any actual human being can possibly not feel extremely insulted and degraded by having themselves equated to a fertilized egg.
But hey, if they are human beings, then they have the right not to be wrongfully incarcerated inside a woman's uterus, don't they? I guess we'd better get them out!
Feisty...it's much more heinous than that. Akin's defenders claim he misspoke, yet he and Ryan attempted to pass legislation "based" on his "misspeak". What is up with Republican Women? Will they be forced to wear burqas before they wake-up?
Ol Doc,
I can see it now, obedient, barefoot, pregnant, burqas wearing Stepford Wives! ;o)
No, they want their particular "Biblical" interpretation of "when life begins" to become law. To the best of my knowledge, the Bible never really defines when life begins. And if it did, I personally wouldn't give a damn as I consider the Bible to be interesting if primitive documentation of middle eastern mythology. Turning "Biblical" law into the law of the land is no different than turning Sharia law into the law of the land...no thanks.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
Ya, watch how fast they normalize relations with Cuba and reopen the casinos. What goes on vacation...stays on vacation. Kind of like the "Sea of Galilee" incident.
Aiken is really a very creepy guy. Aside from the obvious - totally warped thinking and a Neanderthal - I think he wears a really bad toupee, has had a bad face/eye lift and has had a little too much Botox. Probably wears Old Spice and has his nails done, too.
i can't even vote yet,
You see, they ARE trying to control women because the woman who is raped and becomes pregnant did not choose or consent or want the rape or the conception. It was forced upon her. Now, they want to force her to go through 9 months of the emotional and physical trauma of carrying the rapist's child and giving birth AND paying for all of the medical expenses on top of it! She's being forced by the government to go through all of this suffering not due to anything she did! How is that not controlling and violating her rights as a living breathing human being! Reminds me of the Nazis. Abortion isn't an easy decision for a woman to make, but the woman's rights cannot be negated. If she has an abortion, why not prosecute the rapist for murder instead of punishing the rape victim? Anyone ever thought of that? The pregnancy was due to his decision not hers!
I can't even vote yet - Thanks for sorting that all out for us. You are incredibly uninformed. Does your mother know you are on the computer instead of doing your homework?
You mean to say that being president has some meaning? Too bad Congress couldn't adopt that attitude with President Obama instead of obstructing him at every turn.
But not if you're a Dem or black man, or worse dare I say both? Shocking!
ursula you really need to shut up because the dumbs had controll of congress from 08to10 and yet you still say that the republicans are the cause of everyproblem.
they weren't the one's that added about 6 trillion dollars and for those of you that don't know what 6 trillion is it looks like this 6,000,000,000,000 yea that's a lot of money added onto the federal deficit
i can't even vote yet - The dumbs? Yeah, that's keeping it classy! Try the most filibusters in history - it's the tail wagging the dog.
i can't even vote yet -
Learn a little bit about how our government works before you make stupid FOX comments.
1. Even with a majority, the Democrats were unable to override the Republican filibusters.
2. Funny, the last republican estimate was 5 trillion and that was yesterday. Boy Obama sure can spend can't he.
3. The President of the United States is NOT AUTHORIZED under the Constitution to spend federal funds not allocated by Congress.
4. You want to know how those trillions of dollars accumulated? With the stroke of a pen. President Obama began documenting items GW Bush kept off the bucks by keeping them out of the budget. Two wars (unfunded), Medicare Part D (unfunded), Tax Cuts primarily benefiting the wealthy(unfunded). All of which were instituted under "Republican" control. By the way, Ronald Reagan didn't think deficits mattered either (and ran up a record one). Vice President Dick Cheney famously declared in 2002, "the election proved deficits don't matter." Unless, that is, a Democrat is in the White House.
Nice try "icantvoteyet" and thank you for playing.
I think by "over the pail" Ryan meant "beyond the pale,"a classic case of misspeaking. What Adkins said, however, was not a slip of the tongue, it was a bald statement of how he, and Ryan view the process of conception. If a woman is raped, and becomes pregnant, it's somehow her fault, and abortion is not an option.
Don't get me wrong, I think a woman who carries such a pregnancy to term deserves support, including the kind of security net Ryan would like to shred. But, I think, it must be the woman's decision, not Bishop Romney or Brothers Ryan and Adkins', as to whether she proceeds with the pregnancy.
Consider the financial aspects of this. If a woman is raped, gets pregnant and is forced to give birth - is Paul Ryan going to track down that rapist and force him to pay child support? Of course not - after the trauma of rape and child birth, she now has to figure out how to support the child on her own. It's that old Tammy Wynette song: "Stand By Your Man" (but not your woman).
Akin just put to words what the republicans have written into their platform this past Monday... And Romney/Ryan now own it...
I will never understand why women allow a bunch of old men in Washington DC tell them what they can and can not do with their bodies... And then they make it law...
I also don't understand why women are not more openly angry about how they are treated in America... Your no longer men's property...
I think by "over the pail" Ryan meant "beyond the pale,"a classic case of misspeaking.
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Given the shoddy crappola that passes for "journalism" on FR, it's equally as likely to be a classic case of misreporting. Alex Moe-ron couldn't even spell "pale" correctly.
LMFAO!!!!!
Terry,
It's why we vote! We try like he** to get them out of our underwear but the nasty old farts just can't help themselves. They'd much rather muck around with women's issues than important things like oh, uh ... jobs and budgets! ;-)
OK, it's Akin, not Adkins, my bad, I need some carbs.
"over the pail" was correct. The bucket of crap policies Romney and Ryan are flinging is overflowing, thus: cue the manure spreaders for the GOP!
Obama/Biden 2012
Joe in Albany
Given the shoddy crappola that passes for "journalism" on FR, it's equally as likely to be a classic case of misreporting. Alex Moe-ron couldn't even spell "pale" correctly.
LMFAO!!!!!
Joeey,
Could you be an adult and stop laughing for a while? On second thought, don't. Let everyone know how much of a stupid idiot you are!!!
Good point Ursula. I'd add that if she doesn't have employer-sponsored health insurance, she's also on the hook for all the medical costs of bearing a rapist's child. Can these guys be any more dangerous to women?
You are so right! "Of coarse not." And since they hate poor people and single mothers there will be no WIC or Welfare or Food Stamps or...
Joeey,
Could you be an adult and stop laughing for a while?
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Bev, as long as FR lets morons like you post here, I'll NEVER run out of stupidity to laugh at. You, and others like you are the reason I enjoy FR so much. It's some of the best comedy on the internet.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So true Joe. Been reading for years and it is hilarious. They piss themselves of the damnedest things.
I will say this of my Akin Ass though, he dun f'd up. Time to step aside and stop being a distraction.
Here is another distraction from my state, Rep. Kerry Gauthier, a 56-year-old Democrat. Step aside sir.
And to all of you who thing repubs think this way, time to go out and talk to them. Akin might be a repub but he is also a religious zealot and the claims he made were from his religious beliefs and not the parties.
Must have missed the GOP platform committee adopting Akins' and Ryan's and Romney's policy of no exceptions.....What Akins said IS the party's beliefs.
@ Devie and the others: Not to mention that if women are forced(BEING FORCED WILL ALSO BRING BACK THE OLD BACK ALLEY ABORTIONS) to carry an unwanted pregnancy to birth be it from a mistake or having been raped, I see alot of unwanted babies being left in dumpsters, by the side of the road, on someone's doorstep(if the kid is lucky), or any public facility that they can leave the kid(if they haven't already smothered it, sorry but we all know that happens) and walk away. These unwanted children will then be put into the foster care system, thus overloading that system and ultimately putting an even larger strain on the economy. Yeah, thanks Republicans! I WILL NOT HAVE THAT FUTURE FOR MY DAUGHTER OR ANY OTHER WOMAN'S DAUGHTER! WE WILL NOT GO BACK! So, Mr. Romney and Mr. "Rand" take your dirty politics and your antiquated ideas and head on back to California and Wisconsin.
Ursula-279622:
Nope, he's going to let the rapist sue for custody of his child, and then make the mother pay child support.
And yet you keep electing people who not only think that way, but they legislate that way. Then you tell the rest of us "oh, just ignore them, they just misspoke". Sorry, no...they did not misspeak. And if that is something you actually believe you better pull your head out really quickly or you'll find yourself governed by something similar to Sharia law (it will probably be called "Christian" or "Biblical" but it's the same crap).
Ryans plan would make killing even a fertilized egg murder, end funding for planned parenthood so poor women won't be able to get abortions. They claim their motive is compassion for the unborn yet they propose cutting funding for medicaid, food stamps and school nutrition programs. It's a shame their compassion for the unborn doesn't extend to those that have already been born.
Morgs74: Sorry not sure you realise but the Republican platform for the upcoming convention will include the desire to end all abortions. Time for you and moderate conservatives to realise your party has been taken over by the extreme right. Romney stated that as president he would support a woman's right to have an abortion in the event of rape despite the Republican platform but only to avoid the fall out.
Pro-life means you don't just believe in protecting an unborn child.
Pro-life means you believe every person has a right to healthcare.
Pro-life means you don't believe in giving anyone a voucher and telling them to fight a millionaire CEO over their life and death.
Do you trust a millionaire like Romney who hides his money in foreign countries and tells Americans they are not worthy of looking at his taxes to send you to his donors (health insurance CEOs)?
Do you trust Romney who in 2007 said he would sign a bill banning abortions in the case of rape?
Do you trust Romney who's long-time and very close staff wrote the 2012 Republican platform banning abortions in the case of rape?
Do you trust Ryan who co-sponsored a bill banning abortions in the case of rape?
Would any American man ask their wife to give birth to Bin Laden's child after 9/11?
In the eyes of woman, their rapist is the equivalent of Bin Laden.
'Pro-life' is synonymous with 'anti-choice', says this observer.
Pro - Life means that WE tell you what you can do with your body while praising "smaller" government...
GNOP - Can't handle facts. THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
Obama - Biden 2012 / Romney's 1040
no all pro life means is that a person is a person no matter how small and that that person should be treated the same as any other person.
LMAO at this!!!
hey don't let generalizations get the best of you silly rabbit.....LOL!!!
i can't even vote yet:
First of all, "a person is a person" is what we call a tautology, which is logically useless. Secondly, it makes for an effectively circular argument. It assumes that a fertilized egg is "a person" in the first place, which is an assumption based on no objective reasoning or empirical science. Any definition of "person" that covers a fertilized egg would have to be so broad as to be ludicrous.
If a fertilized egg is a person can you claim the egg as a dependent for tax purposes?
Unless they are black...
or brown...
or Muslim...
or poor...
or middle class...
or teachers...
or workers...
or firefighters...
or cops...
or soldiers (especially gay soldiers)...
or gay...
or government employees...
or the unemployed...
or the elderly...
or students...
or women...
...etc.
Now please go out and play and let the big people talk.
To quote George Carlin from the 1988 What am I Doing in New Jersey special:
"These people call themselves "right to lifers." Don't you love that phrase? And don't you love the way these kind of people pervert the English language? You realize that most of the right-to-lifers are in favor of the DEATH penalty? And they support the South American DEATH squads. And they're against gun control and they're against nuclear weapons control. When they say "right to life," they're talking about THEIR right to decide which people should live or die."
I'd add their right to kill hundreds of thousands searching for imaginary WMD mostly mustard gas and such that was never a threat to us. That's why Romney wants to cut social program funding by 20% to save 120 billion yet raise military spending 260 billion. He may be a Paris hiding draft dodger but he'll follow the republican military program.
PS. Am I the only one who kind of admires Adkins for sticking to his principles? How must the pro-life supporters feel to hear Romney urge an unabashed pro-life politician to quit his race so the Republicans have a better chance of acquiring the Senate seat? You have to wonder why Republicans want a majority in the first place. My sense is, the overiding priority is insuring tax breaks for the wealthiest. The pro-life supporters are simply being used by the corporate Republicans, IMO.
I agree Amy. Akin said something offensive and stupid but if saying something offensive and stupid were a bar for seeking office, the Republican Party would cease to exist (and admittedly, the Democrats may have trouble fielding candidates too). Akin is in the Republican mainstream with his views. I hope Mr. Akin keeps running and let the Republican establishment that tried to shout him down have it!
So Mr. Ryan, if you find Akin's view so offensive that he should not run for senate, then you who co-sponsored HR-3 with Akin that would make Akin's viewsthe law of the land, shouldn't you inform Willard thatyou are unfit to run for Vice President?
Sticking to one's principles is a fine concept, if you are sticking to your principles for yourself. In Akins case he's sticking to his principles for others, people whom he represents who assumed that he's got a general enough basic education in biology that he can cast a vote with the same level of intelligence as someone who's taken a biology class and passed with a grade of C in high school. When he votes in Congress, he as a representative has to cast votes on projects in other districts than his own, requiring knowledge of science and technology. The people who elected him in the first place are as much to blame for passing off such a clod to the rest of the country, as Akins is to blame for opening his mouth and exhibiting what an uneducated clod he is. Rape is an act which can be explained by biology ( from which medical thought is derived ) as much if not more than it is explained as a religious act ( from which morals are derived ). I've heard a number of IQ jokes in my life in which the brunt was the State of Missouri. Now with Akins' rape comments, those IQ jokes aren't so funny anymore. There must be a serious problem with science education in Missouri, Oklahoma, and Kansas, to even get an Akins to the ballot one time, let alone be elected several times. Akins, even if he is elected again will not be a viable representative for his district for years, and in basic financial terms... HIS DISTRICT CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE HIM REELECTED, principles or no principles. He's now known for displaying himself as a public idiot on the topic of what is rape, and that will not be forgotten, nor forgiven.
Al in Visalia CA
Well said.
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Amy: Sticking to his principles wouldn't include his apologizing and stating he phrased it badly it would be saying that's what I believe. I believe had he defended his forcible comment as simply that consensual sex by a 19 year old with a 17 year old isn't forcible but would be considered statutory rape as an example people could have understood.
Amy--
Good call on 'pail/pale'--the phrase is usually rendered as 'beyond the pale (of civilization)'. I think the station erred in the spelling, not Ryan.
Still, coming from the Dairy State, Ryan could very well have been thinking about Adkins being over a milking pail. I shudder to think what that might mean.
Sticking to his principles or being self-centered? It's hard to tell. Adkins certainly is pissed at the GOP regulars.
The republican/tea party would be first to say that the biggest problem is when women got to vote. Now women are under attack from the republican/tea party. The republican/tea party see women as housekeepers, babymakers, cooks, cleaners, and servants to mans every need. We can see this in all the republican legislation against women. Ladies get ready to get back in the kitchen. The republican/tea party wants things just like they were in the 1950's. What a dream. Ladies do you want a rich republican man telling you what's best for your body? The most interesting part of all of this is the republican women seem to defend this action. What"s with that?
Let's not forget whores and mistresses, at least for those Republicans who are not secretly in the closet.
I wonder how any of these "pro-lifers" with a mistress would react if their mistress got pregnant. Would they support the child? Or would they simply pay the woman about $100 to go away and forget he ever existed?
The left will continue to harp on this controversy for the next few weeks because they have nothing else to run on like what is Obama's plans for the economy, jobs, foreign policy and energy (just to name a few). This controversy is best left up to the people of Missouri, they are the one's that are voting.
What Akins said was stupid and he has apologized, now it is up to the voters in Missouri. BTW, I have never heard of "legitimate" rape. Rape is rape and should be dealt with as a crime. I am pro life, except in cases of rape, incest and to protect the life of the mother.
It is not just an issue for MO Sarge, he is not a state legislator he holds national office and wants to legislate his ideas on a national basis. If he was a state politician I would agree with you but he is running for the US Senate, and has been a six term member of the US Congress, so it exceeds the interests of just the state of MO., even though they will vote on him. Romney, Ryan, and the GOP sure felt compelled to ask him to drop out, obviously they do not feel it is simply an issue just for MO voters.
well please enlighten us with what Mitt's plans are and how he will PAY for his plans on the economy, health-care, jobs, energy, the housing market, foreign policy, Social Security, Medicare.....ha ha ha yea I won't wait for your answer....
Queenie - Glad you asked, Romney/Ryan have said we need to reduce government spending, cut programs that are obsolete (no longer needed), cut duplication of programs and consolidate programs (those identified by the GAO), revise the tax codes to eliminate loop holes and cut subsidies, put the 716 Billion Obama cut from Medicare back in and restructure Medicare (it's now due to go broke, according to the Medicare Actuary in 4 to 6 yrs.) Social Security is o.k. for some time but does need some changes to make it more solvent. The housing market will straighten itself out if the government stays out of the way, just like the last several housing slumps in the past 20 or so years. Romney/Ryan will cut government regulations that is currently strangling businesses.
Now what is Obama's plan? He doesn't have one, except to Blame "Bush", blame the Republicans in Congress (of which half is controlled by Democrats). Continue to play the blame game and run a negative campaign because he can't run on his record.
Sarge you know how it works, the president just signs legislation that Congress passes, if Congress does absolutely nothing, there is no record, if he does not have a record it is because republicans in Congress made up their minds they would not allow him to have a record. Remember their stated number one priority "was to see the president fail, to make sure he is a one term president, even when democrats controlled the house the republicans used an astounding record breaking number of filibusters to thwart legislation. I would think a military man such as yourself would be somewhat outraged at those statements and would hold republicans accountable for their share of responsibility of our current situation. They went way past politics, they crossed a line. Did you ever shirk you duty simply because you did not like the officer above you Sarge, I seriously doubt you ever did, but republicans in the highest elected positions of our nation did sarge. They took an Oath to serve this nation to the best of their ability, do you honestly think they honored that oath sarge, I do not sir. I think they did just what they said they wanted to do, they intended to undermine the office of POTUS, and hold the nations bests interests hostage to their politics, with the hideous notion of basically blackmailing the American people into who they would next vote for. I think what they openly stated went far beyond politics, and is damn near treasonous, and I dare say as a military man if you would have said as much about any president, and called for his failure, you could have got into some very serious trouble. These guys don't deserve my vote sarge, and frankly as man who put his life on the line for this nation I don't understand why you think they still deserve yours.
Forrest - The Republicans in Congress did their job and I for one am glad that there were some filibusters that stopped Obama from getting everything he thinks he is entitled to. Obama is for bigger government, more government controls, more taxes and more spending on HIS programs.
I have said before, and will say again, the President of the United States is suppose to be a leader and needs to have leadership ability. Obama is/has neither. The Executive Branch and Legislative Branch are co- equal branches of government and they need to work together. Obama got his stimulus bill, ACA and several other programs, so not everything was filibustered.
Had Obama spent his first year to two working on Jobs and the Economy we might be much better off now and he might have gotten some cooperation from the Republicans. Obama did not help himself when he made snide remarks about Republicans (you can come along, but you have to ride in the back, or I won, and more divisive remarks). He used recess appointments when technically Congress was not in recess.
Being in the military and being in charge of people and working with other military personnel you learn how to forge plans and operations, it is called LEADERSHIP. In the military if you do not have leadership and can not get along with those serving with you, you are replaced and someone else is given the position. That is why I will vote against Obama because he has failed to show he could or would be a leader. BTW, I also believe the media is giving Obama a pass on Afghanistan, we have lost more military personnel during Obama's 3.7 yrs than Bush's 6 years.
Finally Obama has shown me that he is in over his head and was not ready to be President.
I think they are a bunch of pouting schmucks Sarge, I have no use for them, in the military I suspect you don't have to lead a bunch of crybabies. I think he has done a good job as CIC it is the one thing he has more direct control of and does not have to depend as much on Congress to execute a plan.
SFCRET...who are you BS'ing?
That's right big boy, I'm a retired SFC too!
1. Politicians regardless of their leaning ARE NOT subject to the UCMJ. In the military you may disagree with your chain of command. You may even "respectfully" voice your concerns "for the good of the order" (as a senior NCO or officer). You may not act to undermine the mission accepted by command. What are your Commander's options should you choose to undermine his command? Does the President of the United States have those options regarding Congress.
2. The Republican Leadership of the Congress made their mission from DAY ONE of the Obama Administration to destroy him and his presidency. Because they want the White House at all cost, there is absolutely NOTHING this or any other President could do to reach compromise. In fact, the Republicans have been very up front that they will not compromise (defining it as appeasement).
3. I suppose President Obama could have shown greater leadership by publicly denouncing the Republicans in Congress who signed the Grover Norquist oath, accused them of "providing material support to the enemy" (bin Laden threatened to bankrupt this Country) and rounded them up for extraordinary rendition rather than trying to compromise, but I guess that's not his style of leadership.
4. Just out of curiosity, as a retired SFC, what do you think of George W. Bush's leadership style? I'd be very much interested in your critique.
Ol Doc - I believe it is you that are trying to doing the BSing. No where did I say politicians were subject to the UCMJ. Further I never said that military personnel could undermine the mission or the command. So I don't understand where you are coming from. The President has the duty to work with Congress, as I said, but you don't seem to understand, the Executive and Legislative Branches are co-equal in our government. It takes both to get the job done and as President it is up to him to show the LEADERSHIP abilities to get the job done. Obama has not been able to do that because either his ego or lack of knowledge or both get in the way.
2. More of the liberal talking points and liberal BSing because they can't get everything they want. Remember Obama is President not King like some of the left wing nuts would like to think. BTW, the Republicans have compromised on several bills.
3. President Obama could have shown greater leadership by calling the members of Congress into his office and try talking things out and do the "give and take". Instead Obama runs out on the stump and does nothing but blame Republicans, blame Bush, the Arab Spring, Japanese Tsunami, the European debt crisis, instead of trying to reach a consensus behind closed doors. In fact Obama DID publicly denounce the Republicans who stopped some of his plans instead of trying to reach an agreement. Further most your your paragraph 3 don't even make sense.
4. In my opinion President Bush was not a strong or even a very effective President. I did not agree with the invasion of Iraq. I did not agree on the way he handled the start of the Afghanistan War, I agreed we should have went after OBL, but feel Bush took his eye off the target in favor of Iraq. At least Bush did get Congressional support for both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. I believe Bush was over whelmed by 9/11 and shortly there after Katrina. The left never let him forget that both was on his watch so both were his responsibility. He accepted the blame and to this day he has not jumped into the political fray. In fact the only ex-Presidents that have continued to voice opinions are Carter and Clinton. That said, Bush was still a much better President than Obama.
5. Now what is your take on Afghanistan, I think we should get out within 6 months. I do not believe that country is worth any more American deaths. OBL along with most of his Lieutenants are dead, that was the main purpose of going to Afghanistan. We can pull out in 6 months, let the Taliban take over again if that is what the Afghanistani people want, if not they will fight back, but not while we are there. Also we have had more military personnel killed in Afghanistan in the 3.7 yrs of Obama than in the 6+ yrs of Bush, and except for the killing of OBL we are no better off than before.
My dates of service was Jan 60 to Sept 80, when was your service dates? BTW, thanks for your service and if a Viet Nam Vet, I say Welcome Home. Now if you want to discuss more about Obama's leadership I will be glad to accommodate you.
And likewise the Congress has the obligation to work with the President. The first day of Obama's Presidency the Republican leadership in the Congress publicly stated their number one priority was to "make Obama a one term president". Does that sound like working with the President to you? The majority of Republicans in Congress also signed Grover Norquist's pledge to raise taxes under NO circumstances. This is in effect abandoning their obligation to govern this Nation in favor of political considerations. Does that sound like leadership to you. If so, where did you experience that kind of leadership?:
In that the Republicans in the Senate have set a record of filibusters, give me an example of Republican compromise with the President and for every one I'll give you 10 examples where they refused.
The definition of "reaching an agreement" with the Republicans in Congress is full capitulating to their demands. They have already defined compromise as capitulation so how do you compromise with them? And by the way, I don't know where you were during the first week Obama was in office but he DID invite the Republican leadership to the White House and was publicly ridiculed by them that very day. He also attended a Congressional Republican Retreat. He reached out to the other side more during his administration than any President I can remember.
When exactly did Bush ever accept the blame for anything? Especially for the deaths of thousands of American Soldiers in Iraq. As to forgetting 9/11 was on his watch, perhaps if he hadn't ignored the warnings of his predecessor and his own National Security Council prior to 9/11 it wouldn't have been an issue.
And yet, still no where near the casualties we had in Iraq under Bush. Beyond that I agree with the rest of your comments. We need to be the hell out of there. There can be no good result from us lingering in Afghanistan. Many have conquered Afghanistan, none have held it.
My dates of service was Jan 60 to Sept 80, when was your service dates? BTW, thanks for your service and if a Viet Nam Vet, I say Welcome Home. Now if you want to discuss more about Obama's leadership I will be glad to accommodate you.
My dates of service were 29 Apr 69 to 28 Apr 73...nine year break...28 Apr 81 to 27 Apr 99. And thank you for your service. I did not serve in Vietnam, but it looks like you did so again I thank you...much respect.
Ol_Doc, Thanks for your reply. I guess we will have to agree to disagree as to leadership qualities of President Obama. I will defend Bush on 9/11, as that was more on Clinton's administration. Remember there were at least 7 terrorists attacks on us under President Clinton. Clinton treated the terrorists acts as a police matter and not a military one. As for the so called warning to Bush prior to 9/11, there really wasn't enough info to cover EVERY airport in the United States. Even the 9/11 commission stated that there was really nothing that could have been done to prevent 9/11. Remember the "wall of silence" put up by Jamie Garrick so that the CIA and FBI could not exchange information.
It appears from your dates of service that you might have been in Desert Storm. Have a good evening and take care of yourself.
Adkins is only the lightning rod that high lights the fact what he said is wording used in the republican platform. The right wing of the republican party is firmy in control. You can distance yourself from Adkins but not the announced agenda listed on their platform.
But Mitt Romney is the top of the ticket and Mitt Romney will be president and he will set the policy of the Romney administration,” Ryan said.
Now we just need to figure out what that actually is. Romney says now that there should be exceptions to the Republican Party's no-abortions-ever stance, but he's on record as agreeing with it in the past.
So if today is Wednesday, what's Romney's position? Anyone know for sure? Romney's like a scary surprise package - you never know what's going to come out of his mouth on any given day.
sfcret if a Democrat had said what akin did every one on the right would want that person drawn & quartered. Just like when the woman from Team Obama said Ann Rmoney never worked a day in her life you folks had a cow. The best part that woman was right. I see a double standard with republicans. Its sucks when it comes back to you.
Romney's position?? He'll let you know after the election.....WHICH election is the $64k (or is it $64million) question.....
GNOP can't handle facts..THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
RO Money - what are you hiding?
Smitty: The woman you are referring to had and has nothing to do with the Obama campaign.
Paul Ryan's comment were "over the pail" , As in, they make me barf in the bucket.
And asked if abortions should be available to women who are raped, the seven-term Wisconsin congressman said he stands by his record.
Translation - "NO"
Paul Ryans record and positions are beyond the pale.
He says rape is rape on the campaign trail but he and Akin worked on a bill to redefine rape, they have this notion that unless a women is beaten to a pulp, it is not "forcible" rape. Their whole unspoken idea is that women will get pregnant and then just claim they were raped in order to get an abortion. They have to do this redefinition of rape because they want to outlaw abortion, and some of them do not even want the provision for rape, so they think this is a mighty fine compromise for people in their party to recognize the difference and allow an abortion for "forcible" rape. So beware women voters, this is their thinking, if you find your self taken advantage of in any numerous ways that don't involve a horrendous physical assault they will basically decide it was consensual and you were not raped. So where is this line for them? Does one black eye equal consent, and two black eyes means you were forced, or is it two black eyes and a tooth knocked out? Women are supposed to have the right in the US to terminate a pregnancy, for any reason, if they so choose, these guys are looking to virtually eliminate that right altogether. They pretend they don't know Akin, but he is a six term member, and has worked with Ryan on legislation on exactly this subject, and they put him on the tech and science committee, they know exactly who he is and what he thinks. He was a big part of their crew until he made political trouble for them by speaking openly about the subject at a Fox news TV station, where he thought he was just preaching to the choir, he still thinks he would have been ok if only he used the word forcible instead of legitimate. He is on the tech and science committee so they will find someone to tell them the junk they want to hear about a women's system shutting down in the case of rape, because it fits what they want to believe, even if a 1000 other doctors tell them it is nonsense. These people have no limits to where they want force their personal religious views on others, they would teach bible stories in your schools not as a sunday school lesson but as science if you let them. Romney, Ryan, and the GOP can't wait to bury this guy fast enough but it is only for the political heat he brought upon them, they know exactly who he is, and what he thinks, they used to praise him for it until a few days ago.
Forrest,
They already have found a Dr they have in their fold, an opthamologist (sp?) whose name is Willke. Romney has said he is a "good allie in the pro life movement" or something to that extent. This dr is on tape saying when a woman is raped, she "tightens" and her tubes "spasm" so this is how it prevents pregnancy from occurring. Believe it or not, this guy is for real! I saw this tape on the news last night. So, he and other repubs really do believe this garbage. They just don't like that it was so widely publicized.
Thank you Feisty Red Head: Ryan/Akin2012 - Representing compassionate, conservative, Christians, one vagina at a time!
Feisty I can not have said it better other than Lets TRANSVAGINAL Ryan / Akin.
Lets Throw poor Mr. Akin under the BUS for putting a Spotlight on these 16th Century NEANDERTHALS!
Talking Points,
We have to continue to drag these mushrooms out from the darkness & into the light! ;o)
OK, let's quit badmouthing Neanderthal. They were bright enough to mate with Homo Sapiens in Europe and Asia to keep their genes alive and well, before going extinct. I doubt many of Mr. Akin's ilk would be that resourceful. I suspect they will just go extinct.
Say what you may about Akin's comments, but at least he stood up, acknowledged them and apologized.
That level of personal integrity is something never seen in Obama or Biden.
Somehow, they're always "taken out of context".
I agree, what this guy said was absurd, but he did apologize( not that it made it any better nor should it have) but yet the VP of the US makes racial remarks and doesnt need to apologize.
He apologized for the words he used. He didn't change his opinion that abortion and contraception should be banned for all women under all circumstances. His "personhood" position was submitted to the voters of Mississippi and rejected -- in Mississippi.
Obama or Biden have never, ever said anything so disgusting as what comes out of the mouths of Republicans these days. Perhaps that is a reason why you don't see them apologizing as much.
As usual, the left misunderstands the term personal integrity.
If they could ever obtain some, it would be more easily understood by them.
Commonamerican1
You seem to be missing an important point. He isn't apologizing for the meaning of what he said, he believes it. His "forceable rape" definition is what he is trying to say when he said "legitimate." He explained that Monday on Mike Huckabee's show. So, unless it's "forceable rape," whatever that means, he doesn't think it qualifies as rape and therefore the woman would not be allowed to obtain an abortion. This is his legislative record, way more than a simple gaffe.
1. Give me an example of a blatant lie (provable with non bias documentation) told publicly by Joe Biden.
I'll give you one by Akin: "the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."
2. No sooner did he apologize then he said "[I was] making the point that there were people who use false claims, like those that basically created Roe v. Wade." Ok, so now women are not really raped. Not only are they "asking for it" with their apparel, but their bodies aren't rejecting the sperm, so they want it. And, they perjured themselves by claiming it was against their will so they could get legislation passed.
Ya, OK...he apologized.
Oh how quickly he back peddles!
Yep, I agree, Real, Robme and Eddie Munster are like to peas in a pod! Both flip flop, avoid paying taxes and lies through their teeth!!
This just gets even more comical as time progresses...even better than Clinton's "I did NOT have sex with that woman!" LOL!
Last I checked Clinton was truthful in that statement.
Last report on Clinton was that it was consensual. Rape is anything but......
Yes, Ryan stands by his record, and his record is too radical for the majority of the American people. Therfore, Ryan is no different than Akin and the Republican Party. The Republican Party do not represent majority of Americans. They represent the top 1%.
It's hard to understand why Ryan objects to Akin's position on abortion. They're positions are the same. The only difference is that Akin put it into words and tried to back it up with some superstition about a woman's reproductive system.
I can't help notice Clinton's name being brought up as an example of disrespect towards women. Those who can see no difference between (1) Clinton/Lewinsky's private affair and (2) Ryan/Akin's attempt to ban abortion for all women under any circumstances, along with the most common forms of contraception, like the IUD and the pill, should go ahead and vote for Romney/Ryan.
Not all things are not what they appear to be.
Amnesty to live and work in the U.S. for 2,000,000 or more under the Obama Dream Executive Order.
However, that two-year work permit did not come with a job. We didn't imagine this; a surprise and disappointment..
Now the government will have a list of not only our names and where we can be grabed, that information can be used to track down our parents, who are also here illegally.
We know President Obama's record and reputation. We do not trust him.
Since you aren't eligible to vote, you kind of don't get a say.
SO his "forcible rape" stipulation doesn't count?
And that still doesn't change the fact he's still anti-choice, NO exemptions.
Paul Ryan to the women of America...."Rape is rape and if you are raped and get pregnant you're still going to have to carry that pregnancy to term....period. That's my legislation and I'm sticking to it."
The Mittster flips again. Told Huckabee that he would support a personhood amendment 'absolutely'. Ryan introduced a FEDERAL personhood bill. Now he says they would support an exception for rape. On the record as wanting the government to force women who get pregnant from rape or incest to carry the baby to term....regardless of psychological or physical harm. Victimizing the victims...so much for "smaller" government. Compassionate conservatism??? Hardly.
Just remember 2010 they came in screaming "Jobs,Jobs,Jobs" and has not even produce anything but obstruction!!!
These guys can't even answer a simple question as to their exact stance on rape. Ryan just escalates the answer to someone else. Imagine them trying to run this country and produce jobs!!???? Please they have their heads so far up their ass the economy is the last thing they should be handling. If Romney was smart he would have come out the very next day and said after hearing Akins statements, and although I am pro-life, our platform and legistlation proposal is going to be changed to allow abortions in the case of rape, incest, and safety of the mother. THAT would have distanced himself from this mess. But no, he continues to support legistlation that is clearly in line with Akins thinking.
So... he distances himself from Akin and his remarks... but then in the same breath goes ahead and agrees with him that rape victims should be forced to carry their rapist's baby at all costs.
Make no mistake, ladies and gentlemen: these lunatics value a rapist's pre-born child over the life of the rape victim.
and amazingly...they are against choice...but pro- death penalty! TALK ABOUT FLIP FLOPPING!
GNOP - Can't handle facts...THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH...
Mitt - where are the 1040's? WHAT are you hiding?
And they are against helping the fetus with food, education, healthcare and BIRTH CONTROL when it becomes a fully grown human being and hasn't been properly cared for by its distraught mother.
"Rape is rape"
So, when the 1% rape the country, it's not consensual....