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President Barack Obama speaks at Capital University on August 21, 2012 in Columbus, Ohio.
After Mitt Romney selected his vice presidential running mate, and just days before the political conventions kick off next week, President Barack Obama maintains his advantage in the race for the White House, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
A Democratic ticket featuring Obama and Vice President Joe Biden gets support from 48 percent of registered voters, and a Republican ticket of Romney and new running mate Paul Ryan gets 44 percent.
These numbers are only slightly changed from July, when Obama led Romney by six points in the survey, 49 percent to 43 percent, suggesting a minimal bounce for Romney (if at all) after this month’s Ryan pick.
While the state of the U.S. economy and the nation’s direction continue to pose significant obstacles for the president, the poll points to even steeper challenges for Romney, including concerns about his tax returns and a lack of support for his plans to overhaul Medicare.
“The election has moved from a referendum to a choice,” says Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted this survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff. “Mitt Romney is starting to accumulate a number of negatives on the personal front and issues front.”
Looking ahead to next week’s Republican convention, which begins on Monday in Tampa, Fla., Hart adds: “Mitt Romney has a lot of repair work to do with his image.”
NBC's Chuck Todd and the National Journal's Major Garrett discuss the latest NBC News/WSJ poll.
But McInturff argues that there’s still a path to victory for Romney, especially with Obama’s numbers below that all-important 50 percent threshold for an incumbent.
“When a guy gets stuck at 48 percent, it doesn’t mean they are out of the clear,” he says. “It means they are in an incredibly competitive campaign.”
The swing states, the demographics and the Ryan pick
In a smaller sample of voters living in 12 key battleground states – Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin – Obama leads Romney by three points, 49 percent to 46 percent.
That’s a narrower edge in these battlegrounds than the eight-point lead the president enjoyed in the June and July NBC/WSJ polls.
Looking inside the numbers, Obama continues to lead Romney among key parts of his political base, including African Americans (94 percent to 0 percent), Latinos (by a 2-to-1 margin), voters under 35-years-old (52 percent to 41 percent) and women (51 percent to 41 percent).
Romney is ahead with whites (53 percent to 40 percent), rural voters (47 percent to 38 percent) and seniors (49 percent to 41 percent).
And the two presidential candidates are essentially even when it comes to the swing groups of suburban voters, Midwest residents and political independents.
As for Romney’s selection of Ryan as his running mate, which was made on Aug. 11, the poll suggests that – so far – the pick has had less of an impact on voters than previous running mates have had.
President Obama touts his education policy, contrasting his budget proposal to GOP vice presidential pick Paul Ryan. Watch his entire speech.
Twenty-two percent say Ryan makes them more likely to vote for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, while 23 percent say he makes them less likely to vote for Romney; 54 percent say the pick doesn’t affect their vote either way.
That margin (-1) is compared with Joe Biden’s in 2008 (+8), Sarah Palin’s in 2008 (+9 percent), John Edwards’ in 2004 (+21), and Joe Lieberman’s in 2000 (+13).
Ryan’s numbers come closest to Dick Cheney’s in 2000 (+2).
Moreover, in the poll’s feeling thermometer, Ryan’s favorable/unfavorable score stands at 33 percent/32 percent.
Hart, the Democratic pollster, attributes Ryan’s mixed numbers to today’s increasingly partisan divide, with Republicans backing him, Democrats opposing him and independents fairly divided.
Romney’s two challenges
According to the poll, Mitt Romney has two challenges heading into next week’s Republican convention in Florida: repairing his image and selling his proposal to overhaul Medicare.
NBC/WSJ poll: Voters split on Ryan
For starters, Romney continues to have a net-negative favorable/unfavorable score (38percent/44 percent) – which no other modern Republican presumptive presidential nominee has had.
What’s more, Obama bests Romney by 35 points (58 percent to 23 percent) on the question of which candidate is more likeable, and by 22 points (52 percent to 30 percent) on caring about average people.
In addition, a majority of voters (51 percent) view the former Massachusetts governor’s approach to issues as being “out of step” with most Americans’ thinking. By comparison, 54 percent say Obama’s positions are “in the mainstream.”
And by a 36 percent to 6 percent difference, voters say what they have seen, heard and read about Romney’s tax returns – he has refused to release returns prior to 2010 – has given them a more negative impression of the Republican candidate. Forty-one percent say it doesn’t make much of a difference.
Problematically for Romney, similar negative margins exist with swing voters like independents, suburban voters and Midwest residents.
“That is as much negative as anything that comes out in this poll,” Hart says of Romney’s tax returns.
Testing the Medicare debate
Another negative for Romney in the poll is his plan to make substantial changes to Medicare, the government health-insurance program for seniors.
When voters are given a description of the Romney-Ryan plan – that future seniors would receive a guaranteed payment that some call a voucher, and that these seniors could use it to purchase either private insurance or to have access in the traditional Medicare program – twice as many call it a bad idea (30 percent) versus good idea (15 percent).
However, 51 percent of voters said they have no opinion.
In a separate question, 34 percent of voters say they agree with the statement that Romney believes this Medicare proposal “is a good idea because it would strengthen Medicare and reduce government costs … by giving future seniors more control over their own health-care dollars.”
NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
In contrast, 50 percent say they agree with the statement that Obama believes this proposal “is a bad idea because it would end Medicare as we know it by turning it into a voucher system giving seniors a set amount of money to pay for their health-care costs and leaving them to personally cover costs above this amount.”
What’s more, a plurality (39 percent) say that Medicare needs only minor modifications, versus 15 percent who believe it needs a complete overhaul, another 15 percent who think it’s OK the way it is and 27 percent who say it needs major changes.
And when asked which candidate is better on issues affecting seniors, 46 percent pick Obama and 34 percent choose Romney.
Obama’s own challenge: the economy
Yet Obama has challenges, too, and they’re the same ones that have dogged his campaign over the past year.
More than six in 10 believe the country is headed in the wrong direction, which is essentially unchanged from last month.
And just 36 percent believe the economy will improve in the next 12 months, though that’s up nine points since July’s poll.
Not surprisingly, Romney holds a six-point advantage over Obama (44 percent to 38 percent) on which candidate has better ideas on how to improve the economy.
That said, 50 percent of voters in the poll believe the economy is recovering, and they’re split (46 percent to 46 percent) on whether the recent news about the economy has made them more optimistic or less optimistic.
The president’s overall job approval rating stands at 48 percent, and approval of his handling of the economy is at 44 percent.
The NBC/WSJ poll was conducted of 1,000 registered voters (300 reached by cell phone) from Aug. 16-20, and it has an overall margin of error of plus-minus 3.1 percentage points.
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WHOO HOO!
The best part is coming out of the train
conventionfreak show in Tampa, the President will have an 8 point lead! lolI never thought I would take this much pleasure in watching these neo-cons self implode!
Ryan/Akin 2012 - Representing compassionate, conservative, Christians, once vagina at a time!
4 MORE for 44!!!
That lead isn't as large as it should be. Seniors, heck, women are about 52% of the population!
Maybe they should have done likely voters. LMAO
Looks like a dead heat with the incumbent below 50%.
I can see why you guys are so afraid right now. Its anybody's game based on these kinds of polls.
George W. Bush and Sarah Palin will not be attending this year's GOP convention.
What is the GOP ashamed of?
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Dubya Bush, I would remind people, was the President before Barack Obama, but has since been airbrushed out of all the Republican May Day pictures at the GOP Kremlin.
I'm surprised he isn't up by 20 points.
Doesn't take long for the paid posters to show up here.
Hurry up, time is ticking! You have to get off in 10 minutes, so better make your point fast!
Many polls out there. It looks like the "Likely" voters are the best polls to follow. In any case, this poll is still too close to call.
Occam's Razor - the House and Senate will be Republican control. Obama will keep the White House. Unless-- Obama gives the election away. It is up to him to lose.
Isn't that strange? You noticed it too? Dubya has faded from the memory of almost all the T-Publicans. I wish I could forget him that easily!
But, since we'll all be paying for the Bush/Dick war for the rest of our days!
Are they oversampling again?
Obama is the right man. Tax cheat Romney is bad.
George who? Sarah who? ... Exactly.
I almost feel sorry for the cons watching their party tank like it has and continues to do.
And coming out of the convention Mitt will probably poll a lead as is usual. So before you get your hopes too high think about all the mess that Akin's has created and his ties to Ryan's Bill. After the Democratic Convention it will be a dead end for Mitt the Twitt and Ryan Ain't buying
I think the better question is: Where are they sampling?
If it was split between each state, then that would be a better poll. However, I think they are sampling from the same area each time. And that area is heavy with liberals. So no wonder the polls are showing yay to Obama.
Why not do a poll around the USA, instead of in one small area? Instead of Election Day that is.
I thought Obummer had a double-digit lead a month ago......?
Is that correct? I do believe Magic Eraser head is seeing the campaign of Hate & Divide erode.
That's what happens when you try to break the spirit of the good 'ol US of A Baby!
It's all good DumbFux, just think, four years ago you had the chance to put a chick in the Oval Office an' ya blew it!....lol
You cant believe polls from ABC,NBC, MSN,CNN they do any thing to make Barrack HUSEIN Obama look good.
Romney -Ryan 2012
GOP is lying like Hell about Medicare and the welfare work requirement.
The rules for Welfare have NOT changed.
GOP is lying grossly on Medicare as well, because the Ryan plans and the Romney plans are serious problems for the US deficit, and for you know - those "You People".
the rightwing will say anything. All thats left for rightwing to do is lie about anything and everything.
1. It's registered voters, not likely voters
2. No mention of the party affiliation breakdown in the sample
3. 48/44 - are the other 8% for another candidate or undecided?
4. An incumbent under 50% is in BIG trouble
Oh MY!
Why are the right wing parrots so angry this evening? lol
Jimmy Carter had a 10 point lead over Ronald Reagan and look what happened. lol
RedSoxRule
Many polling organizations do not poll likely voters until closer to the election. The reason being, it is impossible to accurately tell so far out who actually is a likely voter.
The real problem for Romney is the underlying questions. Particularly, the one about Medicare. Florida is a must win for him. If he loses it, Wisconsin will not matter.
Dismissing things just because you don't like them is a sign of ignorance.
NBC; Obama 48, Romney 44 = Obama +4
Monmouth Survey: Obama 46, Romney 45 = Obama +1
CNN; Obama 52, Romney 45 = Obama +7
Politico; Obama 48, Romney 47 = Obama +1
FOX News; Obama 49, Romney 40 = Obama +9
Either everyone is oversampling or Romney is getting his ass kicked.
You won't mind if we don't take YOUR word for it!
Why don't you chew on this little nugget on the electoral college from Politico;
Read em & weep Artie! lol
Occam's Razor
LIkely voters are only good if you can accurately predict who is a likely voter. This is why most reputable polls wait until closer to the election.
And predicting elections this far out is about as futile as predicting who will show up to vote. IJS.
and it ain't goin' away no matter how hard you tap those ruby slippers together, Willard.
Would you be talking about the failed rescue attempt of the Iranian hostages?
Osama is dead and GM is alive!
4 MORE FOR 44!!!
Feisty,
Or we could use the RCP map it looks almost the same …
RCP (Average of polls) as of 8/16/2012
9 Tossup States: Obama leads in 8, Romney leads in 1.
Delegates: Obama = Solid(142)+Likely(37)+Lean(58)+Tossup(95) = 332*
Delegates: Romney = Solid(76)+Likely(55)+Lean(60)+Tossup(15) = 206
Total Delegates: [332+206 = 538] Win = 270*
http://www1.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html
Its going to be a wonderful day Nov 7. I wake up turn on the news and hear that we have a new POTUS.
Romney -Ryan 2012
That lead isn't as large as it should be. Seniors, heck, women are about 52% of the population!
True -
Its actually pretty good based on the bump Mitten's should of gotten with the ryan pick.
Mitten's should get another bump when the GNOP convention starts, only to drop like a rock when the Dem convention starts....
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O&Joe 2012
Dennis,
Now why did you have to go and smack them again? lol
They're already beside themselves... ☺
Keep telling yourself that and then look at the facts. Incumbents are hard to beat. Takes a major meltdown especially if the President is popular as this one is with nearly all voting groups except angry old white people. I know, Fox doesn't tell you that so you have no way of knowing what is and isn't fact.
Mike's going to be one disappointed little guy the morning after our president is reelected. I hope he isn't a bedwetter.
Obama’s Fundraisers and Donators are switching over to help Romney. Team Obama is lying too much, there is no leadership, and it’s like throwing money away. It is time to SAVE America. We have been led by lies up to the cliff. We get one chance to save America, and Obama spending will be the end. Figures Don't Lie: Democrats Do. Join us and help save America, You Can’t Fix Stupid, but you can “ Vote It Out.”
President Obama isn't Jimmy Carter and Romney sure as hell isn't Ronald Reagan. What are you drinking?
Thank goodness his mother bought some of those "big-boy" pull-ups!
Otherwise she would be up to her ass in dirty sheets!
Nothing to see here. Move along. The only poll that counts is on Nov. 6, state by state. Romney wins Florida, Va., NC, WI and Ohio taking the WH.
Another example of how crazy Florida and it's Republicans are:
I agree 100%. At least Carter can parallel park a nuclear submarine. Obama still hasn't been to all 57 states.
4 years ago today - O was up by +1.5 pts
8 years ago today - Kerry was up +0.7 pt
That wasn't what lost the election for Carter. Well, at least not the only one. Remember the double digit inflation and another overlooked factor and the reason I didn't vote for him a second time was his decision to hold our Olympic athletes out of the 1980 games because they were held in Moscow. That did not set too well with a lot of Americans who thought our finest amateur athletes (remember no pros were allowed back then) got shafted because of politics. I was one of them. Barack Obama hasn't done anything as disastrous as that, so anyone comparing the two is an idiot. Now lets talk about Bush 41, the last one termer who's conveniently absent from this kind of conversation? Any excuses, baggers?
Obama is always ahead when it is the liberal media reporting the news, I like his new motto Forward.....right over the cliff , if he gets relected. I just cant believe whites were stupid enough to vote for this guy in the first place or was it just the white trash i.e. the Hollywood bunch and such.
Feisty,
I wonder how that small group of “black haters” on the far Right is going to take the news that Paul Ryan’s college GF was black.
mike ritter deerhunt1 -- What world to you people live in? I know conservatives who were wary of Romney from the outset, who questioned his most basic assertion that *business experience* translated to being POTUS. Add to that those who questioned his flip-flopping, and other who question his religion, not releasing his tax returns, etc.
Aside from disfranchisement of every group, now the entire Teapublican Party under indictment for QUACKERY. WTF makes you think folks will tolerate this?
Harley Chic -- What part of "legitimate" rape based on QUACKERY that women can't get pregnant if they are traumatized by violent force don't you get? Are you really a woman? You can't change the subject with lies you worthless troll.
I'm not too sure about HarleyChic - chick-wise, I mean.
Harley CHIC and you are voting for Robmehood/Ruin? You have to be out of your mind to give up freedom of your own body like that.
Obama/Biden 2012 Robmehood/Ruin 1040
Climbing Mt. Everest would be an easier goal, lol.
Explain FOX's poll then?
Harley Chic: was that post from way out in right field, where reality is just a skidmark on the tighty whities of life, or did you mean it in an ironic way?
Extract your head from between your cheeks and look at the electoral map... dumbfux!
4 points....not a hell of a big deal...should be much higher for a president holding office who claims to have accomplished so much.
Dennis,
OH NOES... you mean to tell me Paulie dabbled in chocolate? lmao!
How will this play out with the Billy-Bob vote?
Almost at delicious as Willard owning a company who disposed of aborted fetuses!
PS: *waves to KimH* - good to see you GF!
Dennis, why is it only dems find it necessary to even mention Ryan's ex-girlfriend was black? Why is that news for you hate filled dems? I have no problem with him dating whomever he feels like. You so called libs aren't very liberal, are you? I'm a conservative republican and will vote for Romney/Ryan. You liberal democrats are the ones obsessed with race. We conservatives believe in judging a man by his character not his skin color. But since you are supporting the racist divider president I understand you and Feisty have to keep toeing the racist line.
for those of you who want a good laugh, check-out the facebook page for sarasota republican party. all the juice for the obama billboard! the $1000 reward has been fronted by trump.
Nothing like watching delusional liberal Democrats wave that magical pixie-dusted magic wand and ride that pink unicorn! Yeah four more years of record high sustained gas prices; four more years of "the new normal" 8% plus unemployment (that that 2009 stimulus bill was supposed to prevent from going above 8% and create millions of "shovel ready" jobs); four more years of another 50% tacked on to the deficit; four more years of another 20% increase in food prices; four more years of another 15% increase in energy/power/utility bills; four more years of record high households on government assistance like food stamps; four more years of the highest number of sustained unemployed since WWII; four more years of fascist bailout takeovers and giving the middle finger to the investors. Four more years of kicking the can down the road of SS, Medicare/Medicaid, and "stimulus" bills for Big Green Energy projects to nowhere and bankrupt companies. Four more years of thumbing noses at the White House press corps. telling THEM what questions they'll ask like a Dictator In Chief. Yeah WOOHOO!
The delusionalism of liberalism is a funny thing to watch. The only down side is the danger behind the humor. Finally, on so-called polls like these, there's always something you are never told: what areas they "polled" in: democrat leaning, republican leaning, or toss-up leaning. And of course we NEVER see the loaded questions that are asked. But hey, see you libs at the polls in November when my vote cancels your Obama vote out!
~~~~~~GET AMERICA BACK: ROMNEY-RYAN 2012~~~~~
"I can see why you guys are so afraid right now. Its anybody's game based on these kinds of polls."
Please explain. I believe OP said Wooo Hooo. Hardly sounds afraid to me. Are you maybe projecting your fear?
Once you explain why the right wing nitwits feel it's necessary to post about President Obama's ex-girlfriends... get back to us!
After all, Bishop Willard said himself, what's sauce for the goose is good for the gander!
Sorry you NO likey when us lefty libruls fight back! Bullies are usually the first ones to bitch!
WOW, the libbys are going crazy! Look at all the Fisty rants! LMAO You guys must be really worried.
RePube -- I just pointed something out, didn't dismiss it. I think polls right now are not worth much, but since the libbys on this site love them, I just want to point out some FACTS.
The FACTS show Obama with less the 50%, and this was registered voters not likely. Many would disagree with your theory that it is hard to predict likely voters. It is really quite simple and fairly accurate.
Bine -- the fear is evident by the over the top rants. It is a common reaction by children and those with low comprehension skills (i.e. libbys). LMAO
Fisty, what are you talking about? You lost your marbles? Obama's ex girlfriend was imaginary! LMAO
Excuse me, I just had one of those mini puke episodes. How do you judge the character of a man who made a fortune by selling people's lives down the river and won't release his taxes because he knows the world will see how he did it? You got some nerve, bucko. That i'll give you credit for.
Yep, and four more years of this kind of stupidity in government - you know, because liberals live for big fat government and all:
Uh oh, no big city government permit to save lives, you are just SOL!
And let's just start looking at state-by-state polling where it really matters. Take Wisconsin for example:
Gonna be fun watching the Democrat liberals lash out and nail bite and attack these next two and a half months! I'd recommend buying stock in a company that offers bed protection like for the elderly, because there's gonna be a whole lotta bed wetting going on!
Teaparty Low IQ (how cute) said:
Yeah you Democrat liberals just keep telling yourselves that. Be my guest...please! You people are backed in a corner and the Romney-Ryan ticket has you SCARED S-less and you know it. You haven't heard from the silent majority in some time, but if the 2010 beat down of you Democrat liberals in the House (that caused Nanny Pelosi to lose her job as Speaker) is any indicator, you are in for a rude awakening. And it can't happen to a nicer bunch of delusional Americans.
LOLZ.....Romney is a clown......If he still hasn't proved that to you, then you don't let facts stand in the way of your beliefs..
Dennis,
Feisty,
I wonder how that small group of “black haters” on the far Right is going to take the news that Paul Ryan’s college GF was black.
Not you too!
You've always managed to get your point across without going into the gutter, to bad.
Too bad Netanyahu is gonna put a damper on Barry's parade! You know what they say about karma Barry?
http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-determined-to-attack-iran-before-us-elections-claims-israels-channel-10/
Not only angry but as usual spouting crap without facts! The past few days have been fantastic for the President and I hope they continue to roll the same way up to November. The GOP is so fractured that Dems and Reps alike will be glued to the convention to see which faction prevails and who they piss off the most within their own party! Wonder which direction Mitt will be "forced" to take???? The only statment he's made that has anything to do with what's going on politically was today when he asked Akins to step down. Tomorrow we'll probably be back to his name calling and foot stomping!
4 more for the fantastic 44!
This election sucks. Obama will probably win, but its not because of how good/bad a president it he, its going to be because the GOP doesnt have anything great themselves. So just like 2008 election its picking the lesser or two evils.
I wish all the candidates were on the ballot. It always sucks to only have 2 people to choose from. Both of these guys suck, and i feel neither of them are worthy of the presidential spot.
Why cant we get good presidents again like we did in the past ? What has changed so much that they all suck now as candidates ? WHAT CHANGED !?!?!
This election is actually really close right now, and a lot could happen between now and November; so, in all honesty, neither side has any real reason to be overly confident. But one thing I would point out to conservatives is that on the whole, Registered Independents do not hate and despise Obama the way that you do on the right. A lot of Independents find him personally likeable, and this election more closely parallels 2004 than any other election in modern history. Independents were never able to warm up to John Kerry for most of the same reasons that they do not seem to be warming up to Romney but they found Bush personally likeable. So, this could come down to undecided independent voters making their decision based on likeability and who they think cares more about the middle class and Obama wins on both of those issues.
You know the right wing nitwits are on the ropes when they start busting out blatantly false chain e-mails! lol
Mmmm.... I ♥ the smell of desperation!
Not much of a lead considering he is the standing President. To bad I was hoping he would make a difference. I am sure the debates will turn many voters. Maybe America can get back to work and concentrate on the good times again. Not sure we can handle 4 more years oh hate spewing. You can really see the fear in the post people are making. They bash what they fear with hatred.
Too bad Debbie is losing too!! GO CNN!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5NJF5Fcvmg
@True Patriot: Agree with you. President Obama's numbers should be much higher than they are. When assessing why the numbers are where they are, most forget the central consideration way too many deal with when giving answers to a pollster. That consideration is RACE. Many, when polled do not wish to reveal they actually plan to vote for this BLACK man. Many will not vote for Him solely for that reason, or will rationalize the acceptance of republican bullsh^t as a handy excuse to cover their prejudice. If the contest was between 2 whites within the present circumstances, with the baggage hanging around the necks of Romney and Ryan, the democratic candidate, being "whomever" would be holding a substantial 20 to 25 point lead. The President will win by a notable higher margin than polls indicate due to the votes of many quasi, but pretend racists, provided the rest of us get our asses out and vote. As always, best regards. Mac
I know. RIght? It scares the bat squeeze out of you.
According to Rasmussen Romney lead with 1 point. Romney lead also among job creators. But Obama lead among union backers. Polls vary according to the sample the actual poll is at the time of the election, when the real numbers will come out. However, Obama is going down from more than 10 points while Romney has the momentum. Job approval for Obama is 47 / 47 , from more than 60% in 2010. Media bias try hard to get up the support for Obama, but there is no more Bush and we already elect the first black president.
Sorry progressives/libs Obama can't save his self this election. Obama has less than 80 days in the White House. I am sure that is plenty of time to still go golfing and for Valerie Jarrett to wonder what kind of job she can get with her smart remarks "Unemployment is good for the Economy" This does explain what the true Democratic party has turned into.
Romney/Ryan 2012
@Toney:
You forgot to read part of the article:
Romney is ahead with whites (53 percent to 40 percent), rural voters (47 percent to 38 percent) and seniors (49 percent to 41 percent).
This song soooooooooooooo reminds me of Feisty every time I hear it!
ALL YOUR EVER GONNA BE IS MEAN!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUsHAllUKnU
Fedup - Are you crazy? Are you actually hoping that Netanyahu strikes Iran just because you don't like Obama? Bend over and kiss your butt goodbye little buddy because if that happens, this will not be confined to two little countries in the mid-east Iran will not stand stand by and do nothing. It will be act, react, react, react, etc. There are some crazy people involved here and the dominoes will fall. Think before you speak, and never, ever wish something like this on the world.
Keep deluding yourselves...if you think the Atkin thing is bad (Ryan is the same so I don't know why they are pretending to be shocked) we still have plenty of time before the election.
Don't trust the polls...
Obama/Biden in a landslide in November'12
NO incumbent president in US history except Truman post-WWII has won an incumbent re-election with a sustained approval rating below 50%. Obama has been stuck between 42-45% for nearly two years now according to Gallup (he did have a temporary spike to 50% in June 2011 after the Navy Seals and CIA did their job and got Osama). Keep riding that pink unicorn and waving that magical pixie-dusted wand, liberal Democrats!
There's a difference between a city and a state the last time I checked. Phoenix has a LOT of liberal "regressives" like a lot of other red states have liberals in their cities (and that includes LIBERAL republican RINOs).
Sailcat
NBC; Obama 48, Romney 44 = Obama +4 Sample 34% Democrats, 27% Republicans or +7 Democrats - In 2010, the turnout was only +3 Democrats. Samples 17% African American
Monmouth Survey: Obama 46, Romney 45 = Obama +1 Sample 33% Democrat 27% Republican. Race mix matches US Known mix.
CNN; Obama 52, Romney 45 = Obama +7 CNN Sampled 46% Democrat 34% Republican +12 on the Democrats side.
Politico; Obama 48, Romney 47 = Obama +1 Actually a Battleground poll for Politico. Sampled 36% Democrat 29% Republican. The oddity that caught my eye. Conservative or strong conservative 54%
FOX News; Obama 49, Romney 40 = Obama +9 I discussed this one a few days ago. Sample: 44% Democrat 35% Republican.
They are oversampling.
You skipped the Gallup and Rasmussen tracking. Rasmussen has the partisan trends at about 33 - 35% Republican and 33 - 34% Democrat. These are adjusted monthly from polling there well established areas that historically match election turnouts.
Gallup is using a little higher on the Democrats, but that is because they are based on actual party registrations. Just in the swing states, Demcrats are reported at -800,000 and Republicans -80,000 with about half of the losses being seen in gains amoung independents. The last I knew they are holding that Democrats are at 33 -35% and republicans at 32 or 34%.
Rasmussen shows Romney up 1 and Gallup has Romney up 2.
The other ones are playing with out emotions. That is how they make money. In the meantime, if we forget that they are people pushing an opinion, and are plenty happy to use these polls to back up their opinions.
Libertarded drink the kool-aid from NBC polls.
soaz....take a look at redsoxrule logo......now we ask....how are those rtwinger KKK racists gonna handle Ryan having a black girlfriend in college? You play the racist card when redsox logo looking at you? Fake indignation on your part. Repubs will react the same way about Ryans black girlfriend the same way Sarah Palin did when they found out she had a black boyfriend...she shut down the campaign bus tour and quit...because it is too much for racist rt wingers to overcome. Day after day rt wingers come on blogs with racist remarks and you dare say Dems are making the rt wingers racists?
kim, where did I say I wish this? Learn how to read...and comprehend. I posted an article, did you bother to read it?
So the only two polls in the country that are accurate are the two that happen to agree with you, DB? That isn't oversampling; that is just wishful thinking. When you are able to pull your thoughts together enough to have a rational conversation, get back to me.
Mac Forrester -- Howdy back at ya. All one has to do is listen to comments like Hank Williams Jr. to know there is a lot of ignorant hate and bigotry going on.
antgne -- Agreed. As time goes on...
...and seniors remember it is Democrats who have always protected Social Security and Medicare (as well as Medicaid for nursing homes), and think about the *divide and conquer* ugliness of throwing their kids under the bus, and whether they are really willing to take a chance that their benefits will be protected by the Robber Barons...
...and as rightwing women learn more about the extremism of pro-lifers who support "personhood" that would ban forms of contraception, in vitro fertilization, and want to criminalize ALL abortions...and those who may not know the QUACKERY belief that women who are "forcefully" raped can't get pregnant (!)
...and as fiscal conservatives learn that Ryan doesn't balance the budget for 23 years, and even this estimation is based on bad math, and therefore Paul Ryan is NOT a deficit hawk...
Gawd, just look at civil rights issues, for example in Ohio -- The claim that the same voting hours in all the counties is equality is BS. The urban counties with ten times the population need to provide more access for voters. The lines in 2000 were unacceptable! The counties are willing to pay for the additional access as well. I can't believe there isn't more press coverage of this. It is clear voter suppression for partisan gain and nothing else.
The Teapublicans, what have they become? They are destroying our country.
Thank-you, Fiesty. That line made chuckle more than anything else I've seen, heard or read today, and of course, it got you collapsed again.
It is good to know there are some things on which we can all depend.
Osama is dead and GM is alive! ??
Osama has been dead since 2001 no one bothered to tell the American people but death noticed published in middle east countries and it was talked about by Bhutto before her assassination.
GM is now owned by the Chinese who bought it for less then 1/2 price per share of what Obama paid. Great work.
Foreclosures are close to an all time high, guess no one wants to talk about that.
3 1/2 years and 8 trillion dollars in new debt. Doing good Obama, George Bush didn't add that much in 8 and most was in the last 2 years by the democrat controlled congress that could spend all they wanted due to over ride of vetos.
Unemployment close to 20% Obama doesn't want you to know they don't count people cut off of unemployment. FYI It takes 150,000 NEW jobs per month just to cover the new kids wanting to go to work.
Tax returns??? I would like to see the locked away college records. Yes I know nobody cares what he did then. You think?? Why not show them??
4 more years of 44 and there will not be a 45 comrade!
Barry and Biden are the racist. Obama racist against whites , 20 year with Rev. Write his spiritual guide, friend of Imam Farrakhan, leave a deep impression, Biden racist against Blacks "y'all Blacks (not me I'm white) are going back on chains". Among other racist comments about Obama. Everthing stay in family.
....and in yet another poll, taken by Pravda, our incompetent, communist, doper, alcoholic, community organizer-in-chief held a wide lead among,non tax paying,alcoholic,doper,communist,communist sympathizer, and useful idiot supporters,(not at all like those who conducted and were asked to vote in this poll, no sir!l), I did notice however that the breakdown as to how many Dems, Republicans and independents were asked, was somehow ommitted, a mere oversight I am sure,because NBC would never try to mislead or manipulate..................yeah
My question is, "Whoever has been polled on this board for a Presidential Election?.
Most people don't answer their phones anymore!--cell phones and cordless phones have CID's;
"Junk Unknown" callers/researchers who are paid minimum wage by some company to Telemarket polls--
Still waiting to get that call!
So someone says The Fiesty Redhead Troll has a smelly gash and she is offended, but she calls republicans names all day. Typical liberal, I know, it's only fair when it works for you. Who cares if Paul Ryan had a black girlfriend. What if I consider Comrade Obama a white man? It would be just as fair to consider him white as to say he is black. In that case, he would be the first white president married to a black woman. WOW
The fact that you liberal morons are only talking about Ryans exgirlfriends, and some people skinny dipping and not about the terrible job Comrade Obama has done to improve the economy and promote job creation shows that his resume is still awful. Keep telling yourselves that he is going to win, but the only way he will be in office next year, is if he signs another Executive Order granting himself control of the government. Not gonna happen, but it is going to be funny to watch them drag him out of the White House kicking and screaming.
Fiesty Troll...get a real job, propaganda specialist for liberal morons is not something to be proud of. The government must give you lots of Food Stamps and Financial Aid for your efforts and commitment.
Save America Vote for Romney/Ryan
Frank, you must get your "facts" out of a box of crackerjacks.
Show us a creditable link showing that Osama bin Laden is dead, and has been since the same year as the 9/11/2001 attacks.
What a pathetic joke.
Find us a credible link that Osama is dead now. Obama refused to post pictures. I doubt he was dead in 2001 but there were rumors he was dead well before last year. Who's telling the truth?
The Muslims community, both radical and moderate believes that he is dead.
The Muslim new agency, Al Jazeera reported him as dead, and radical Muslim factions, such as Al Qaeda and the Taliban have been vowing revenge ever since.
Against that, edna, you offer "rumors he was dead before last year".
...hmmm, whom should I believe??
Tough question.
Maybe he IS alive, and secretly shaking up with Elvis in love-nest in the south of France. Maybe he was transported to another planet by aliens.
Or, maybe he is dead, and it bugs many Republicans so much that Bush couldn't bring him to justice, that they seize on every idiotic rumor that he is either still alive, or died years ago.
Pitiful.
Is this how Barry plans to win this year too?
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/embed/3CmkbShVqNA?feature=player_embedded
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/embed/gy6odnqyLeU?feature=player_embedded
Can someone explain to me why this poster has not been suspended at the very least? It wouldn't take too much to convince me an outright ban is called for....
Oh Starsailor! Right wingers are not racist, we may be short tempered with lying a-holes like you but we are not racist. Explain away in your own incomprehendeble way as only your stupid a-- can, President Bush's , Colin Powell and Condolezza Rice? Sarah Palin's black boyfriend? Dont confuse your own jilted rommance,if that is even legal, with reality numb-nuts! You are full of sh!t yet you wont shut up.
Robert,
The reason this poster hasn't been banned is because he/she works for NBC. You wouldn't expect them to be fair now do you? I've seen dozens of people either suspended or outright banned for less diatribe than this ilk posts on a daily basis and yet here they are over and over again. You get used to the "noise" factor on here and just accept that there are some that were born a few fries short of a Happy Meal!
Your answer does make sense JK, but to answer your question I do expect them to play fair. There is nothing wrong with enforcing the rules equally. It's especially a shame since the people not enforcing the rules equally would be the first ones to scream at someone else for doing the exact same thing.
I never pay attention to these polls. One poll will conclude one thing and another will have different results. this election is a dead heat which is a bad sign for Obama. the big difference is in each candidates perceived persption of what the population needs and wants. The all important popularity vote. Kennedy won on popularity. If marginal voters begin to look at each candidate with open minds they will see two distinct differences. One says what he believes in and sticks to those commitments. The other says anything and everything to garner votes. Obama would give up his first born to get a vote. Forget about the tax evasion crap people.There is nothing too it. Romney's accountants use the tax code to save him as much as they can. Thats what they get paid to do. No different than you or I. If your jealous of his income then too flippin bad , do something about it. Obama talks a great game but can't get squat done. All he knows how to do is talk and i agree he is a great talker. But action is what we need not retoric. We still suffer from lost jobs. We are still in a resession and Obama has failed to accomplish any of his campain promises and by his own words has failed and should be a one term President because of that.I voted for Obama in 08 and I am not asshamed of that vote. I voted for who I thought was best for the country of the choices we had. I won't be voting that way this time around. We need more than a good speaker to right things.
GOP: the party of ignorant arrogance.
Many of these polls are sampling using 2008 results, meaning they are getting more democrats then Republicans. They don't do this because they want the democrats to win (well maybe they do), they do it because in the last election more democrats voted then Republicans. This poll has 45% democrats 39% Republican, 6% difference and Obama comes out with a 4% lead. If Obama doesn't have the same turn out as last time and the Republican base comes out stronger then last time the results will be completely different then anything using 2008 base turn out numbers. Everyone has an opinion but who ever gets their party off the coach and out to vote will win.
George Bush received 2 million more votes in 2004 then McCain did in 2008, meaning they either voted for Obama or stayed home. Obama received 10 million more in 2008 than Kerry in 2004 and 6-7 million more than Bush in 2004. Obama had a wave of support, 1.) because he was a blank slate and could be in peoples mind whatever they wanted him to be. Now he has four years of being on record, no blank slate. 2.) People were tired of Bush and wanted something different. Bush is not running this time and the hope and change stickers are no longer popular after these last four years. Obama is now "the man" and can't run an anti establishment campaign. 3.) The chance of having the first black president brought out a lot of people who usually don't vote, and even made some people who tend to lean conservative found themselves voting for Obama because their alternative was McCain who was a terrible candidate.
My basic point is Obama doesn't have the rock star status he enjoyed last time around and the Romney / Ryan ticket is much better then McCain / Palin with a Bush hangover. Republicans are angry and energized much more this time around and Democrats and those who did the "first black president vote" are somewhat over the rock star thing and the "it's a first" thing. Obama now has a record which he never mentions, all he has is hope that he can attack the other guy and make people think as imperfect as Obama may be he is better then Romney. That is a much different race than before and not going to yield the same turn out.
It took Franklin D. Roosevelt 10 years to get us out of (also) Republican induced Great Depression of 1929. FDR gave us Social Security and Workmans Compensation Laws, during that era and he created agencies or strengthened existing federal agencies to protect the little guys in America, requiring greater safety standards in mines and in the workplace, requiring over time pay if you had to work more than 8 hours a day, Democrats at that time strengthened federal assistance for farmers suffering from droughts ,diseases and floods.....and the democrats created the rural electrification program so all would have electricity...
People are short sighted, Obama has had to deal with yet another Republican induced Depression, caused by lax oversight due to Republicans constant watering down of regulations which protect you and me, and our families....but,unlike Roosevelt, Obama also inherited TWO WARS,.the one in Iraq was a War Crime on our part, as there was NO justifiable reason to attack Iraq, which was at peace. There was NO connection with 9/11 and no Al Quaeda presence in Iraq,nor WMDs, as pointed out numerous times by UN Inspectors...so Obama had to wind down that war and get us out, even as General Motors was lurching towards bankruptcy ( Romney stated "I'd of let them go bankrupt !").
Bush actually CUT taxes, even as he started 2 very expensive wars,one in a land-locked nation....you don't need to be an economist to know that you cannot cut taxes and start and fight two foreign wars...have to pay for these wars........Bush should be in prison for what he did...over 6000 American dead, 115,000 wounded, 120,000 Iraqui dead, and,according to the VA, so far 50% of veterans of both the Bush Wars have filed for disability....( My uncle who is an 88 yo WWII vet still collects disability 67 years after that war !)...we will be paying for the Bush Wars for 70 more years and Bush borrowed $2 Trillion dollars to fund that and left the Invoice at Obamas desk.
Obama ; Saved General Motors, got US out of Iraq, has begun drawing us down and out of Afghanistan, saw to it that Bin Laden was killed, increased Drone Missile attacks by 7 times more than Bush did, so as to save American lives,the Stock Market is surging, back to what it was over 4 years ago, and Obama cares about womens health.Obama uses surgical strikes by American Navy Seals and Green Berets, rather than send tens of thousands of our men and women through IED strewn fields and roads...this is a man who cares, a man we know and trust, and he has barely completed 3 1/2 years in office.
Why would anyone alter the course we are on now ? The Republicans agenda is to cut protective regulations, cut assistance to women in need, and to create religious based laws ( Sounds like Iran !). Romney has stated that he will support Israels attack on IRAN....what, ? do you think the the US needs yet a 3rd Republican induced WAR ?
Israel does NOT have the wherewithal to fight Iran on its own and would need US Supprt if it is to attack Iran....lunacy for us to go in there,lunacy
$500,000 from Obama to MSNBC.......... fair news..... right..............
VERY interesting to see that Paul Ryan had a College sweetie, a live in girlfriend who is BLACK.......hey "News88" do you suppose that she is from Kenya too ? Suppose that Ryan used Birth control ? Maybe he has a Black Love Child somewhere !!??
Do you know that John McCain was NOT born in the USA ? He was born in a central American banana republic....and that Mitt Romneys father was a MEXICAN ? Born in Mexico, = Mexican citizen, lived there till he was 6 on a Polygamist Mormon cult-compound....Romneys "Church", of which he is a BISHOP, believes that God lives on the planet KOLOD...that's right, I never heard of it either, but Bishop Mitt believes it, so it must be true...guffaw,guffaw......What do you suppose will happen, when it comes out that Paul Ryans love child, Mobutu Ryan , wants his Papa to pay for his college tuition ??
Yes he is.
And that lead is only going to grow. The more Ryan's plans for control over women becomes clear, the farther behind the R boys will be.
The White House, Senate and the House - All Democratic in 2013!
Obama/Biden 2012
Meanwhile the Tampa strip clubs are renting tents to hide limos and their occupants from the media. Hmm, I wonder what will make the local news.
I sure hope clinics have stocked up on anti-biotics given the propaganda Republican'ts like to spread around!
It's a known fact that Republicans love the strippers. Bring your cash boys.
Oh noes!
These good old boys like to put in on the RNC American Express card!
Remember how much
they spentfun they had at that bondage club in LA?CHA CHING!
Romney just went swimming naked in the sea of the lost.
Did I mention Tampa Bay has a HUGE shark population! Go on fellas, take a little skinny dip.
........and community organ-grinder obamas secret service?
You libtards are showing the fear in each and every post. Your boy is 1 & done.
Romney/Ryan 2012 to save what's left of America
Go home feisty ginger and play with your cats!!
Romney must win Florida. IJS.
Sharks no likey little minnows... NO substance and not worth their time! ;o)
The republican's theme for this convention is money. Rmoney's theme is to kiss as much a$$ as he can for as much money that he can get.
That's your dryer buzzing... your white sheets are dry!
Nah!
I'll stay right here - I would suggest you run along and play with yourself! It will be the only satisfaction you get from now until the beatdown you take on election day! ;o)
@seeking
doubt thats going to happen.
Just saw on the news that there is a chance hurricane Issac could arrive in the Tampa Bay area in time for the circle-jerk in Tampa. While I wouldn't mind seeing it rain on their little party, I live too close to seriously hope it hits the area. Hurricanes are not fun, particularly when your yard is full of trees.
I nominate this as "joke of the day!"
No, the quicker you 'baggers die off is when we will move forward again. Obama/Biden and the House - 2012
It's also a known fact that Democrats love 17 year old boys that they solicit off of craigslist and meet at truck stops.
In MN 17 is of age of legal consent!
Nice try YOU DOPE!
Did you really say Craig? As in Larry Craig (R) UT? lmfao!
At least she wasn't trolling an airport in MN for men!
@ kimH
Don't worry about Issac. The hot air from all the gaseous A$$s at the convention will blow it away!
How about this for an idea, if I were to loan Mitt my tax returns to use for the last 10 years. He can pretend they are his and everyone would be happy right? And the people of Florida, if you give in and vote for Romney/Ryan expect to lose your Medicare as you know it, and get ready to use vouchers until they run out. Read up on these guys plan if you don't believe me. They plan to privatize Social Security, and they are changing their tune a little to get elected, but then look out if they were to succeed.
And unfortunately they can't use the song Money as a theme. But wait! Ted Nugent has a few maybe Stranglehold will work for them ....
Just a thought . . .. ;-) I'm sure he'd let them use it for FREE!
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
Now How could that Happen... And Don't forget, THEY USED OUR CREDIT CARD!
Cost To Taxpayers Was $3.6 Million…” “But while lawmakers first uncovered that conference earlier this month, documents obtained exclusively by Fox News show the event was the setting for millions of dollars worth of bonus handouts. According to the records, more than 3,700 employees received bonuses averaging about $1,000 apiece at the conference. The cost to taxpayers was $3.6 million -- minus the cost of the drumsticks, and the consultant who headed up the exercise.”
This Isn’t The First Time President Obama’s GSA Has Thrown Taxpayer-Funded Parties – They’ve Hosted Lavish Conferences Around The Country:
President Obama’s GSA Sent Five Employees To Hawaii “For Up To A Week” To Attend A Single One-Hour Event. “The House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee said Wednesday that five employees associated with the recently scandal-plagued Government Services Administration went to Hawaii for up to a week in 2011 to attend an hour-long ribbon cutting on space leased by the federal government for the FBI.” (Chad Pergram, “GSA Employees Travel To Hawaii Five-Days For A One-Hour Ribbon Cutting,” 4/11/12)
“Taxpayer Dollars Were Squandered” After GSA Officials Spent Nearly $1 Million For A Lavish Conference For Only 300 Attendees. “GSA Administrator Martha Johnson admitted in a letter of resignation that her agency had made a ‘significant misstep’ and that ‘taxpayer dollars were squandered.’ A GSA Inspector General's report on the 2010 GSA ‘Western Regions’ training conference in Las Vegas shows the government spent more than $822,000 for the 300 attendees…” (Lesa Jansen, “GSA Head Resigns Over 'Wasteful' Las Vegas Seminar,” CNN, 4/2/12)
GSA’s “Lavish Spending” On The Conference Included “A Clown, A Mind Reader And A $31,208 Reception.” “The chief of the General Services Administration resigned, two of her top deputies were fired and four managers were placed on leave Monday amid reports of lavish spending at a conference off the Las Vegas Strip that featured a clown, a mind reader and a $31,208 reception.” (Lisa Rein and Joe Davidson, “GSA Chief Resigns Amid Reports Of Excessive Spending,” The Washington Post, 4/2/12)
GSA Conference Organizers “Received Bonuses Ranging From $500 To $1,500 For Their Contributions” To The GSA’s Lavish Conference In Las Vegas. “Four congressional hearings on the scandal are scheduled for next week. One will be held by Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), who said Tuesday that several conference organizers received bonuses ranging from $500 to $1,500 for their contributions to the event. She is seeking a list of those officials from the GSA.” (Lisa Rein, “Acting GSA Chief Calls Las Vegas Spree ‘Completely Unacceptable’,” The Washington Post, 4/10/12)
Fuzzy - Hope so.
Layton, Just what they need! Terrible Ted Poopy Pants Nugent!
Maybe Drunkass Redneck Hank Jr. will show up too! They could do a duet.
BAHAHAHAHAHAH
Another NBC wishful thinking poll which no one believes! You guys get funnier every day, especially since poor little Obama spent more than he took in during July, but hey what else is new?
WTF is wrong with this: "Romney is ahead with ... seniors (49 percent to 41 percent)."?! I cannot beleive/accept that 49% of seniors don't care/give a sh*t about Social Security and Medicare. Does this mean that 49% of polled seniors have no idea their presidential pick is coming after their life-saving programs, i.e. those 49% are - how do I say this - stupid? Or those 49% are ready to vote for the Medicare/SS destroyer b/c they cannot stand the Black Guy (like my elder MIL)? Or are our seniors just saying random sh*t b/c they have no clue who's who? I am befuddled!
Dear Seniors reading this - if you are from the 49% whod vote for Romney/Ryan - pls explain your thinking!
Peace, ANV
Times-Running-Out -- Your behind the time. That's old news from last spring. The report has forced three top Washington officials out of their jobs, and four more have been suspended. So what's the BFD?
@Another New Voter#2.24: It's ethnicity. Most white protestant seniors would never vote for a BLACK man. Seldom find a more racist group than these. Education levels, high or low, never seem to be much of a factor. Regards
AnotherNewVoter -- There are plenty of racists in that demographic, who are blinded enough by their racism to believe the LIE that President Obama stole from Medicare for Obamacare -- When deep in their shriveled hearts they know the Democrats are the ones who support such programs, and not Republicans.
I'm going to tell my Tea Party mother that if she votes for Romney/Ryan, and ends up needing to go into a nursing home and Medicaid is no longer there for her, not to look to me for help. Or my siblings -- three of us are very close to the age 55 cut off.
People with parents on SS and Medicare, you need to make sure they know the facts and the truth.
Like Obama you will throw your racist mom under the bus. Where is your liberal tolerance.
Did President Obama meet his Job Council. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs.
Teaparty - Romney now ahead in Wisconsin, and instead of 8 toss up states there are now 12. Obama' campaign raised 49.2 million and spent 59 million in July. Still only has a 3 to 4 point lead, can't even break 50%, can't say much for Obama's campaign.
How about the poll in the 12 battle ground states that showed 56% say they are not better off than in 2009 while only 40% say they are better off. No wonder Obama and the left isn't talking about Obama's record, there's nothing to talk about.
You would think the standing president would have better support. It seems everyone is sick and tired of the way the country is headed. You say get your head out of the sand and quit watching Fox news but....
Fox News Channel remained the #1 news channel in January, 2011. This marks FNC’s ninth anniversary at number one. The network overtook CNN in January 2002.Fox News Channel beat MSNBC and CNN combined in Total Viewers in both primetime and total day.
Say what you like but they obviously do something right. That being said the debates are what everyone is waiting for. I think the Biden Vs. Ryan will be a turning point on who can make good executive decisions. One heart beat away could be Biden or Ryan. I think the President will also do poorly defending his term in office while America suffers. We shall see. If he wins it can not get much worse and no where to go but up. Rock bottom is always a win win right?
sfcret...
A 4 point lead and probably with a 4% margin of error. Not good for any incumbant this close to the election, especially considering the number of times romney made verbal gaffs. Based on all the hype FR lefts give about how good obama is, I have to ask them the question... "is it still all bush2's fault?" LMAO!
Oh well... One and done - OMG 2012
The seniors have it right. They're wiser and have lived long enough to know when someone isn't truthful like President Obama. Not only that they're already living the nightmare of Obamacare with cuts to medicare, so who do you think they're going to trust.
Fiesthy Redhead
GET A LIFE. Your comments are so disgusting. Your wit would serve you better if it were informative and contributed to the forum.
Well I guess all the dirt on our Muslim/Marxist president would already be out there if this left wing garbage internet site calling itself a site that reports 'the news' would only do their job. NBC is such a bought off site and all you paid first responders to these political articles makes me laugh whenever I see what you twits post. You are ALL idiots. All of you. But then you get paid for being an idiot so I get it. It's interesting that this sorry site never talks about BO's record.......IT'S BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE!!!!! People interview BO and ask him what kind of mole sauce he likes on his Mexican food, green or red. Are you kidding me??!! Ask the treasonous traitor about the economy and why our credit rating was downgraded for the first time in American history under his administration. Romney is a good man, he has no dirt on him other than, OMG, he transported his beloved dog on the top of his car roof on a vacation to Canada. OMG!!!!!!! How horrible!!!!!! At least he didn't EAT dog like your rock star prez did, the dirt bag. And OMG Romney is responsible for a woman getting cancer and dying because her husband lost his job YEARS before the woman lost her own insurance. Oh and let's save the best one for last.....Romney is a felon because he didn't pay taxes. I think the terrorist organization called the IRS would have already confiscated his belongings and bank accounts if this were true and he would be in the Big House. Let's hope Romney is in the White House come January or this d--k of a president (he's not MY president) is going to finish the job the dictator started without anything to stop him. This dirt bag is a Muslim and hates America. You dumb lib's on this site must be getting paid a lot of money to say the idiotic things you say. Hey!! Isn't that kinda being a Capitalist?
Those secret service agents are by no means owned by obama, they were fooling around like that since jump street
romney is a nightmare?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=related
. . . and during the convention, when everyone witnesses the extreme Republican platform, the President will be up by 6-8-10. Come September when people start paying attention, Karl Rove and the RNC will be trying to save down ticket races from their top ticket catastrophic failure. Wanna bet $10,000? . . . just kiddin'. Not rich!
Ana - LOVE the puppy in your Avitar!
Anna & Seeking,
I see us progressive sisters are all on the same page tonight! ☺
Ahhhhh, more Liberal~Progressive love for one another.
Time to go to your nearest Media Matters website and get the latest for your talking points.
Romney-Ryan 2012 to take back America from the radicals.
ALL you mental midgets are always on the same page.
BTW, we all know how stinky you redhead gashes are. Sucks to be you!
Vote for Romney/Ryan....lose your job, savings, health care and freedom.
Steve - you've just proved to be a totally disgusting excuse for a human being. My guess is dumpster diving for your dates isn't even paying off for you. Even the dumpster gals probably have better taste. Go away!
SeekingSanity,
Not a puppy. A three pound, five year old pet named Angel that passed last year. She is supporting DogsAgainstRomney from heaven along with Seamus.
OH leave him alone SS!
Little Stevie is a perfect poster boy for today's GNOP! ;o)
I say we let everyone see who represents the right...
More rape gaffes are coming. Romney sucks
Hurrican on the way to Tampa, just in time for the convention, could this be an omen???
Laura, it just means that republicans blow.
Obama/Biden 2012 Robmehood/Ruin 1040
Wait, isn't this what happened when Obama was elected? How can we lose our jobs, savings, health care and freedom when they've already been lost?
Nancy...go ask Bush that...he is the cause. Turn off yer Hero Rush and turn iof Faux and ya might
clear your head some.
Wow the Wall Street NBC/FOX Poll has the Wall Street Darling Bailout Barry slightly in the lead where as the Gallop Poll has Layout Romney Clearly in the Lead.
Hmm I wonder who Americans should believe?
Once again Corporate Controlled Liars at NBC/FOX Caught Disseminating Their Wall Street Masters Disinformation & Propaganda....One More Reason Not To Re-Elect ANY Wall Street Controlled Incumbents this Year been they Democrat or Republican not even the HERO of Goldman Sachs & Al-Qaeda Supporter POMPUS Obama
And they say FOX doesn't support Back Door Barry.....Hahahaha well here's proof once again!
Steve . . .
Coming from you, little man, that is quite the compliment! Don't you wish your little party of NO even knew how to get on a page? Let alone the same one?????
The night President Obama took office, when Ryan and 14 other repubs met to pledge to take the economy down just to make Obama a one term president...Ol Frank Lutz the Fox news Pollster was with them..along with Newtster....Even Lutz was there while they pledged against the nation...Boehner warned the 15 repubs not to have anything to do with Fox News pollster Frank Lutz so they did not invite him. Fox news..In on the pledge to take the economy down to make President Obama a one term president!
People are dumber for watching Fox news and fox news pledging to take the economy down with repubs. :Ref Richard Draper book.
have you been reading Ann's horse magazines again? It's Gallup Poll, not gallop. No wonder Romney's leading. btw, here it is right from the horses mouth
Don't believe me, read it for yourself if you can: http://pollingmatters.gallup.com/
Hey! According to your poll, the gap has closed!!!!
All it took was shrinking the +democrats to six points!
Call me when you get it right- dems +4.
Surprise! It will be a tied race again.
Then, factor in the exit polls being skewed democratic. .
Oh, and, tiny berm?
http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx
Read the column to the right. . .
It's been that way for a week. Still within the margin of error, but Romney is up two points.
Backstabbing Tea Party @ 3.5: "Romney-Ryan 2012 to take back America from the radicals.
Vote for Romney/Ryan....lose your job, savings, health care and freedom."
That will be hard to do since Obama already took all of those.
Romney/Ryan 2012!!!
Democrat Covention in North Caroline , will be a desaster NC will vote Republican.
When President Barack Obama accepts the Democratic nomination on September 6 at Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte, the Democratic National Committee apparently will be pretending that Bank of America Stadium isn’t called Bank of America Stadium.
According to the New York Daily News, fundraising emails suggest that the venue will be known simply as “Panther Stadium” that night..........mmmmmm
Well I guess all the dirt on our Muslim/Marxist president would already be out there if this left wing garbage internet site calling itself a site that reports 'the news' would only do their job. NBC is such a bought off site and all you paid first responders to these political articles makes me laugh whenever I see what you twits post. You are ALL idiots. All of you. But then you get paid for being an idiot so I get it. It's interesting that this sorry site never talks about BO's record.......IT'S BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE!!!!! People interview BO and ask him what kind of mole sauce he likes on his Mexican food, green or red. Are you kidding me??!! Ask the treasonous traitor about the economy and why our credit rating was downgraded for the first time in American history under his administration. Romney is a good man, he has no dirt on him other than, OMG, he transported his beloved dog on the top of his car roof on a vacation to Canada. OMG!!!!!!! How horrible!!!!!! At least he didn't EAT dog like your rock star prez did, the dirt bag. And OMG Romney is responsible for a woman getting cancer and dying because her husband lost his job YEARS before the woman lost her own insurance. Oh and let's save the best one for last.....Romney is a felon because he didn't pay taxes. I think the terrorist organization called the IRS would have already confiscated his belongings and bank accounts if this were true and he would be in the Big House. Let's hope Romney is in the White House come January or this d--k of a president (he's not MY president) is going to finish the job the dictator started without anything to stop him. This dirt bag is a Muslim and hates America. You dumb lib's on this site must be getting paid a lot of money to say the idiotic things you say. Hey!! Isn't that kinda being a Capitalist?
I'm curious to see how resourceful that sleaze bag, Karl Rove and, "mitt the sock puppet,"can go. That answers every question with "I can't get into specifics."
I worked in the insurance sector and and in the financial sector. Even there, they was clear lines that you didn't cross by being a part of crushing companies, gutting them, and leaving the workers behind for your own personal financial enrichment--if you have a soul.
We just don't need someone that 'parts it out' and shuts it down. If we have any hope of avoiding total collapses in the future we must return to higher tax rates, close tax loopholes, reevaluate existing "free trade agreements, and, reduce the size and scope of the military, and adopt universal healthcare. Pay the doctors fairly and encourage via scholarship to train physicians. Employ by re-building this crumbling infrastructure.
We tried the imperialistic game--how did that work out for this country? Out education system is broken, we have the highest healthcare cost, yet 38th globally in cost. Our tax rates on top earners is amount the world's lowest and defense gets 50% of all discretionary funds in the budget. We've been at war or preparing for war ever since the end of WWII. Return the tax dollars to domestic issues and know that can never happen until the hall of Congress are purged of right wing zealots that want to hold the tax rates low, yet stay involved in the daily business of the world. Start by closing half of the 750+ bases not located on US soil. Mr Romney has promised to increase defense spending while increasing the US's involvement in International affairs.
The Polls are correct; ALL the Polls show Obama has a STRONG lead over wimpy Romney--a man without a cause--
Go Obama 2012; you've made a great difference in all our lives---highly intelligent, sensitive, Leadership, and a loving heart--a good father.
History Writers will write that "O" is one of the Greatest Presidents, ever in American History--he will have a huge Legacy--
Aside of the fact that women control the majority there are two factors that will make the election and its to early to tell tell yet, one is jobs the other is security that's all the American people really care about, Obama has failed on jobs and his foreign policy is a disaster, we will have social security and medicare till we go bankrupt and that's all there is to it. the trick is not to go bankrupt, that's where Romney has the advantage, its business savvy versus no business savvy, I think the American people will show on Election day, it wont be over Gay rights, or race it will be over our future as a nation. if we do not prosper as a nation nothing else matters because we are all doomed. we could use a business man instead of a mouth piece. I have some faith in the American people to weigh the scales. we just need to ignore Feisty and Tony Breeem, they are out of touch. besides do you take your advice froom a hooker and a BJ queen.
Actually most polls show Obama and Romney pretty close. What has Obama done for this country? Nothing. I'm not a big fan of Romney either. It's too bad that the independent candidates won't ever be heard. Hopefully that will change and they'll allow Gary Johnson to join the debate. It would be nice to see a true moderate have a chance.
Let me define hooker. its someone who is fishing or trolling, not necessarily a street walker, but a similar mentality. I think they are both paid posters, I would like to meet Tony she reminds me of my X. I miss those one sided arguments that go nowhere.
To Marchant: Are you high? The country has been in a state of decline for Barry's entire presidency, and keeps getting worse. I lost my job in January and haven't had a single employer call me back all year and I have less than perfect credit, so I had to enroll in college and take out student loans just so I can pay my bills for a few months. Thanks a lot, Barack, you worthless piece of s**t!. Thank goodness it will be over in January. What I don't understand is how the liberal idiots can't see that tax breaks for businesses allows them to hire more employees (Oh, I forgot, you guys won't work because the government owes you your livelihood, after all you voted for the socialist bastards).
Voting for a independent is giving away your vote they can't win the Electorate college will see to that, we need to fight the system and get rid of that, that's how the system stays Dem or Rep, and only counts the supported runners. remember Ross Parole all he did was split the vote and hand the election to Clinton. to vote 3rd party or runner is a vote for the other guy. be careful how you vote, also sometimes when you vote no it means yes and visa versa do your homework there are trick questions.
I can't imagine how anyone with any integrity could vote for either of these two losers?
I voted against mccain/obama, the last time and the fellow in the mirror has had no trouble looking me right in the eye every morning.
If we independents would vote our conscience, neither of these piles of it would get a majority. At least neither could claim a mandate and who knows, they might even learn to listen.
Oh, those wonderful polls by some liberal rag that you libbies get so excited about!! The only poll that counts is coming soon and it doesn't look good for your two bit community organizer.
Tacking a loan to go to college is like selling yourself into slavery if your not careful you will simply be committing yourself to a loan you can never pay back .if you are high caliber and can become something special like a Medical Doctor or a engineer its worth it but otherwise your committing yourself to a life of debt. as far as Lawyers go that's just a school of thieves.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck won this year. First, I think Mickey Mouse if full black and he'd also be running with a white vice president. Seriously though, this is the year when people are voting not because they think one candidate is better than the other, they are voting because they're hoping one will be less worse than the other! How sad!
@D Buck - Actually, Ross Perot got a very nice kick-back from President Clinton after he took the votes away from Bush allowing Clinton to win. He was able to purchase for peanuts an oil research facility after Clinton approved that Arco merger.
Where are they getting that number from, and who are they asking? I'll be amazed if this election doesn't turn into one of the biggest landslides in presidential election history. Romney can't even rein in Aiken. He has no standing even within his own party. I can't believe there is a woman, a minority member, a laborer or a middle-class American who would vote for this guy. Forget about pet lovers. This guy strapped his dog to the roof of his car. Forget gays, he beat a kid up in high school because he thought he might be gay. Then there's those who are patriotic, President Obama killed Bin Laden, has gotten our soldiers out of Iraq and is getting them out of Afghanistan. Can there possibly be that many insane super-rich people voting who want to destroy America; who want to bankrupt our nation and send all our jobs to China? Who would refuse to divulge his tax returns and claims to have only paid 13% income tax on the millions and millions he made from shipping American jobs overseas. I think the media is just trying to build suspense where there is none.
@dal
More rape gaffes are coming. Romney sucks
Well, that explains how he's getting his $$$$$$$$$ donated to him.
Try blaming someone other than Obama for a poor economy, partisan finger pointing, and nothing getting done. Last time I checked we don't elect dictators in this country, we elect presidents that are held in check by the judicial and legislative branches of government. Congress has an 18% approval rating...why? Could it be they haven't accomplished anything in the last 3 years because they're more concerned about running elections than doing what they're elected to do? Blaming Obama for lack of economic progress and job creation would be fine, if you had actually passed a comprehensive budget in one of the last 3 years. Which branch of government is responsible for writing budgets and managing entitlement programs? Here's a hint...its not the judicial or executive branch. Now Republicans think its a good idea to cherry pick their VP nominee from such a highly regarded group? Ironically, not just any joker, but no other than Paul Ryan, the Chairman or the House Budget Committee! I would love to get a promotion for not doing my job 3 years in a row and blame it on the CEO of the company I work for. I guess I can see why Mitt chose to boost his platform of economic reform by putting a professional politician on his ticket that has accomplished exactly zero economic reform in his 13 year political career. Of 71 bills he sponsored, 2 were enacted. These were lofty bills of great significance: renaming a post office in his district and reducing excise tax on arrow shafts. He's a real political and economic maverick this guy! Every proud republican needs to vote the extremist right wing ideologues out of office because they are shooting your party in the foot! That foot's a Akin right now isn't it?
Ed you are a fool know I can see why we have Welfare it is to take care of people like you I mean your brain if jello this is the worst President ever I mean carter was real bad but this guy makes him look good I can see why you type of people vote for Obama it is because you can not do things for your self's so you need the Government to take care of you
You have a bit of a double standard there don't you? I mean, you place the entire blame of record debts on George Bush, but Obama gets a pass. You did after all type these words: "Who was the last president to leave this country with record level debts? GW Bush." That was from post 6.10 of this thread http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/16/13320646-obama-campaign-says-ryan-forced-to-flip-flop-on-medicare?commentId=69032857&__utma=154396583.1276294524.1334655643.1345619515.1345623157.158&__utmb=154396583.11.10.1345623157&__utmc=154396583&__utmx=-&__utmz=154396583.1345458322.152.33.utmcsr=msnbc.msn.com|utmccn=(referral)|utmcmd=referral|utmcct=/id/48720594&__utmv=154396583.|8=Earned%20By=newsvine%7Cnewsvine=1^12=Landing%20Content=Original=1^13=Landing%20Hostname=sleuth23.newsvine.com=1^30=Visit%20Type%20to%20Content=Internal%20to%20Original=1&__utmk=75041490#c69032857
Where did the "you" in your post come from? The last time I checked Democrats controlled the Senate (and the house prior to 2011).
Mind telling me what group both Obama and Biden came from?
As opposed to how bills Obama sponsored and were enacted during his time in Congress?
And every proud Democrat needs to vote the extremist left wing ideologues out of office because they are shooting the nation in the foot :)
What are you voting FOR?
Obama promises more of the same plus a tax increase on the evil rich that amounts to about 5 minutes worth of government spending. He wants another stimulus when he can't even account for where the first stimulus went. What else is he for? Gay marriage, green energy, uh, uh. Well @!$%#. I have no @!$%#ing clue what he is promising.
Romney is promising tax cuts, less spending, tapping into US energy - gas and oil. He is promising reform to the entitlement programs that are killing the country.
Here's what we have heard from the media who, like it or not, controls the narrative:
Here's what you haven't heard:
So what are you voting for? More of the same? Or another direction.
Obama's "you didn't build that" is like giving the school bus driver the scholarship for taking the kid to the school where she did the hard work.
The other direction (Romney/Ryan) leads to hell for women and heaven for rich men.
Here is a great ad, it shows just wht Obama is slipping :)
http://youtu.be/qaPYafuZpNE
The poll numbers mean NOTHING - the only purpose in them is to bolster the feeble-minded supporters (on both sides) and give them courage. The ONLY thing that matters is the final voting results in November. Everybody get over yourselves and save your sanity.
Many of these polls are sampling using 2008 results, meaning they are getting more democrats then Republicans. They don't do this because they want the democrats to win (well maybe they do), they do it because in the last election more democrats voted then Republicans. This poll has 45% democrats 39% Republican, 6% difference and Obama comes out with a 4% lead. If Obama doesn't have the same turn out as last time and the Republican base comes out stronger then last time the results will be completely different then anything using 2008 base turn out numbers. Everyone has an opinion but who ever gets their party off the coach and out to vote will win.
George Bush received 2 million more votes in 2004 then McCain did in 2008, meaning they either voted for Obama or stayed home. Obama received 10 million more in 2008 than Kerry in 2004 and 6-7 million more than Bush in 2004. Obama had a wave of support, 1.) because he was a blank slate and could be in peoples mind whatever they wanted him to be. Now he has four years of being on record, no blank slate. 2.) People were tired of Bush and wanted something different. Bush is not running this time and the hope and change stickers are no longer popular after these last four years. Obama is now "the man" and can't run an anti establishment campaign. 3.) The chance of having the first black president brought out a lot of people who usually don't vote, and even made some people who tend to lean conservative found themselves voting for Obama because their alternative was McCain who was a terrible candidate.
My basic point is Obama doesn't have the rock star status he enjoyed last time around and the Romney / Ryan ticket is much better then McCain / Palin with a Bush hangover. Republicans are angry and energized much more this time around and Democrats and those who did the "first black president vote" are somewhat over the rock star thing and the "it's a first" thing. Obama now has a record which he never mentions, all he has is hope that he can attack the other guy and make people think as imperfect as Obama may be he is better then Romney. That is a much different race than before and not going to yield the same turn out.
Irrational American't,
I've vote for the guy who stopped the lose of 750,000 jobs a month when he took office and has turned it around so that 160,000 jobs are being added. More of the same for me!
I have a chart that shows everything you need to know.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/president-obamas-job-creation-problem--in-one-chart/2012/08/02/gJQA58tsRX_blog.html
Great chart "Logic Required".
Clwyd won't have the stones to open the link because he would be faced with the stark reality of Obama's failure.
What about it, Clwyd? You aren't afraid of a few facts are you?
American women just can't wait to support the policies of Akin and Ryan.
American women want jobs.
Road - many of us, luckily, have jobs. But we are hoping the GOP stops obstructing every proposal President Obama makes so more jobs are available for everyone!
Obama/Biden 2012
@Road Warrior- American women won't be able to work if they have no control over their reproductive systems and family size.
Republican TeaBilly Conservatives are willing to Ruin the Country and Sacrifice the Economy until they can get back in Power. Why do you think they have been the Party of No for so long.
The abortion debate has nothing to do with a "war on women". Pro-life supporters have a fundamental belief that the fetus is alive and considered very much a living human child and as such destroying that fetus is tantamount to murder.
Democrats generally have a ready willingness to accept the value of the life of some of the most vile of criminals and allow them to remain in prison indefinitely, so I find it strange that the issue of abortion is so easily boiled down to simply a question of choice. You wouldn't allow anyone to murder their toddlers or teenagers simply because they believed it was their choice to do so. So why are you so willing to allow a mother to end the life of her baby simply because she believes it is her choice?
This is a very delicate issue. Especially when you throw rape or incest into the discussion. Does that child who, of no fault of their own, was conceived in the most traumatic of ways deserve to be killed? or do they deserve to live? to have a chance at life? to have a chance at joy?
Rape is life shattering on its own, but to have to think of raising a child brought about because of it is daunting... I can't imagine how a mother would deal with being reminded of being raped each time she looks at her baby and how that might make her treat her child.
The difficulties this discussion poses are hugely important with long lasting repercussions for anyone involved, generalizing them with catchy campaign slogans and rhetoric is wrong.
Romney owned a fetus disposal company...yeap there is the Romney again. Dead baby guy
Siara,
You have a low opinion of the strength and adaptability of women. You seem to think they are these weak little things that can't make it without the Democrat Party.
Siara - Akin is not running for the White house but a house seat - and as a female and someone who votes GOP I find his statement to be most horrored and feel he should step down. There are a few articles about him and the RNC trying to get him off the ticket.
Wait, what? Obama has 2 years of total control and wasted it passing Obamacare. He also can't get a single vote from his own party on his budget proposals. Better go check your own party before you spew these MSNBC talking points.
me1234567891
I'm not interested in getting lost in the weeds with pro-life sh!theads about attempts to change common law and language in regard to the distinctions between an egg, embryo, fetus, and fully-formed human being. The real reason for "personhood" legislation is to completely ban abortion as well as many forms of contraception, in vitro fertilization, etc. -- And criminalizing it --- And why this BS couldn't even pass in Mississippi.
Heck, it's not even in the realm of sanity to try to overturn Roe V Wade/Hyde Amendment. But anyone who as of now (the 21st Century) does not grasp the impact of "legitimate" rape and trying to redefine rape based on QUACKERY -- Based on an ignorant belief that women can't get pregnant if traumatized by violent force, then you all need to be traumatized by violent force because I now have a pseudo-science belief that a hard hit to your head with a 2x4 might knock some sense into you.
Bree-14 -- I'm glad to hear that you recognize Akin's comments for what these are. However, Akin's has already served many terms and is running for the Senate -- The damn friggin' Senate.
@Bree-14. Wow, an intellectual conservative.... that's wonderful! Check to verify Ryan's affiliation with Akin. I don't know what it is. I'm just saying.... check.
Cheers.
Obama has been an abject failure across the board. His promises have gone un-met, the unity he promised has become bitter division, his foreign policy lacks coherrence, he has had time for over 120 rounds of golf & lavish vacations but has only met with his economic council twice: 4% of his time has been dedicated to economic issues. The list is too long to enumerate, but his most rabid followers still possess the zeal of cult members & an inability to exercise reason, objectivity & independent thought.
Road you are right...woman want Jobs...But unlike the GOP?Baggers they want Fair pay.
Won't get that, as proven by the Repbs voting.
Bree ya need to check your logic..seems ya have none. We all know the GOP/TEAS Hate woman who work or want equal pay. Hey girlie you and those cowards need to stay out of My woosie.
Are you a true woman or just in name only?? Just ask-en
Good g*d do you really believe that? Are you that stupid? American women have control over their bodies right now and it will remain that way no matter who is in the White House. You have bought this BS that women need, no must have, the approval/guidance/direction/ of the government for the amount of children they have or don't have. The republicans would prefer you didn't kill your babies but ultimately you have that right, we just don't want to pay for it. If you can spread 'em you can pay for your own abortions.
In June every single republicon Senator voted against the Paycheck Fairness Act. This act says that the republicons do not believe women are equal to men.
Says the bull seal who is waiting for someone to toss an anchovy into her pie hole!
@DAL:
Read the FACTS before opeing your mouth an inserting foot.
On its documentation page, the Stop Stericycle campaign lists documents showing contracts and other information linking the business with abortion clinics. The first document offered as proof comes from 2003 — anywhere from one to four years after Romney and left Bain Capital and coming at the time Bain itself had divested from Stericycle.
Most of the documents cover the period between 2007-2009, making it appear Stericycle launched a concerted effort during those years to drum up business from abortion companies. Again, that time period is well after Romney was no longer involved in the company or Bain Capital, which had sold off its Stericycle holdings three-four years prior.
While the pro-abortion, pro-Obama side of the political divide would love to sew seeds of doubt with pro-life voters and it attempted to secure another four years for the abortion president, pro-life voters can rest assured that their attempts are misleading and disingenuous.
The earliest report of this happening was in 2003, LONG AFTER Romney Left the company.
(If you want to play that game, Once a person leaves a company, everything that happens after that is still their fault.. Hell you are doing it now with the Whole Country... "It's Not Our Fault, Bush did it')
Outside groups have spent over 200 millions to support Romney by making negatives ads on Obama. They really like 0 "capital gains"from Romney's plan and there is one major factor why they do this.
They barely know what is Romney's plans and that is why they only have negative ads on Obama.
GOP, tell me what is Romney going to do to create 12 millions jobs on his first term?
SeekingSanity, I see you haven't found it yet.
Romney/Ryan 2012!
Libertaded have no moral to criticize Akin even what he said was wrong. Obama cosponsor a law that give the right to the mother to kill her infant if born alive during abortion, Obama and Akin have equally oppositive extreme views about abortion.
Redhead ranting...
May I also add that women who can think for themselves and not spout off in support of some party line will always have a place in my heart.
Siera - I will look up Akin I had never heard of him till this past Sunday. I do not know of anything connecting him with Ryan, not saying he hasn't just not something I am familiar with on this congressman. The only thing I know is he is running against Claire who I am luke warm on she really does not bother me one way or another - some of her politics are not mine but some are not so bad.
Redhead Ranting........ Very good post..... Finally a TRUE GROW WOMAN that can see thou all the B.S. Thank you for your commit..
JUST maybe, and I know there is. A lot more intelligent Women out there, THAT THINK LIKE YOU DO.....
P.S........ ( G.B.Y. )...... Have a great day...
Akin and Ryan co-sponsored a bill (HR 315?) that would allow doctors to exercise their 'conscience' by letting a woman die rather than perform an abortion, even if the woman was bleeding to death from a spontaneous miscarriage. Delay in finding help can cause death, if you're bleeding heavily enough. They also agreed it was a good idea to redefine rape so that a little 12 year would have to have her daddy's baby.
Just recently, in the Dominican Republic, a 16 year old girl who was 9 weeks along was denied chemotherapy because it might affect her child.
Now they're both dead.
But she didn't have an abortion!
I take back everything I said about Feisty she is a retired street walker. and a disgusting one at that. she is not your average troll she is a disgusting, rude, obnoxious, insulting Idiot. thanks for supporting Mr O, best thing you can do for Romney.
It shows you what america really thinks about the candidates that Obama only has a four point lead over a such unsympathetic and looney opponents as Romney and Ryan.
Both candidates, Republican and Democratic are about equally distrusted and disliked by the public and it takes millions of dollars of PR and millions of gallons of BS by their shills in the corporate media to convince a majority to vote for one or the other.
Romney is a soulless and heartless multi-millionaire who will obviously say or do anything to get what he wants. He's looted society to get all the money he wants so now he wants power as icing on the cake.
Obama is a smooth talking con-artist who lies without conscience to get what he wants: ultimate social status and power. Black progressive journalist Adolf Reed described Obama as a "vacuous opportunist".
Obama's tactic is to talk like FDR and act like Reagan.
Obama poses as a friend of the "little guy" but has transferred billions/trillions of dollars from the middle class and poor to the rich with the bailout of Wall Street he continued and intensified after the previous administration while doing as little as possible to help millions of working class americans, black and white, who have lost their jobs and their homes as a result the recession caused by the swindling of the bankers.
As a result we still have record high unemployment four years after the crash in 2008 and no prospect of much improvement for years to come.
When are people going to get fed up with the whole charade and demand REAL change?
Post 4.25 this is not the Dominican Republic, and HR 315 requires house approval don't worry about it, besides you never even read it you are talking hearsay and repetitious BS from other sources read the bill. why do you want to kill babies anyways. house the murderer kill the baby awsome thinking.
@ArchStanton Good point but there is more to it we need to kill the free trade agreements that are killing us.
D Buck
The trade agreement hurts, but the Extreme environmental and corporate tax policies kills much more.
@DB Akron, you are so right. This administration has use the EPA to kill as many jobs as possible. Obama killed deep water drilling in this country while sending $5,000,000,000 to Brazil and Mexico to do the very same thing that he wouldn't allow here and the one who made the most money on this was his pal George Soros.
I remember reading about that in the main stream media....NOT.
Yet another BS poll by NBC/WSJ. Here's why it's biased;
It surveyed 34% Democrats vs only 27% Republicans, when surveys by both Gallup and Rasmussen show that voters self-identify as about 35% Republican and 34% Democrat. Since party affiliated voters typically vote about 90% party line for President, this 26% sampling bias in favor of Democrats results in an artificial lead for Obama of about 6%.
When you adjust for this obvious poll bias, it shows a 2% lead for Romney - consistent with the numbers from Gallup.
Roy,
It is not a biased poll. They poll based on demographics. You see, demographics are ..........oh never mind, it will be lost on Roy.
Roy counts his turds before he flushes them.
When are Republicans going to realize that they commit abortion everytime they flush their turds down the toilet?
I never pay attention to the media polls, Fox or NBC, etc. Those are biased. Only watch Gallup and Rasmussen. And BOTH show Romney in the lead. But whatever helps you peeps sleep better at night.
New poll in Indiana has Obama up big, the main polling was done in Gary. Msnbc stands by the results. Disclosure, The poll was 100% black and Obama recieved 100% of the vote, when asked if the pollers thought that it may look like blacks only vote for democrats. Shankika Watson said "Hell NO, only white people are racist", MSNBC stands by the story.
I glanced at that poll. They polled 100 people and I don't believe what areas of the country were tapped, but since they polled more Democrats than Republicans that one might assume if they polled more Republicans the outcome would be different. How sophomoric and yahoo posts it.
Rod_Father "Roy, It is not a biased poll. They poll based on demographics. You see, demographics are ..........oh never mind, it will be lost on Roy."
Thanks for the laugh. Obviously my comment, which included pertinent demographic data, was a little over your head.
LookingForwardtotheFuture "I never pay attention to the media polls, Fox or NBC, etc. Those are biased. Only watch Gallup and Rasmussen. And BOTH show Romney in the lead. But whatever helps you peeps sleep better at night."
Agreed - I've been looking at the details of polls by other organizations, and they over-sample Democrats EVERY TIME, which obviously creates a biased poll to support Obama. If they over-sampled Republicans even once, they could have some credibility, but that never happens, and most people don't look further than the biased poll numbers in the story.
What's interesting is that Gallup has Romney ahead by 2% among 'Registered Voters', which means he's actually ahead by about 6% because Republicans consistently vote in higher percentages than Democrats.
Roy,
Popular vote means nothing.
Keep counting turds.
Roy Wilson Turdcounter
Siara Delyn "@Road Warrior- American women won't be able to work if they have no control over their reproductive systems and family size."
So are you telling us that having to pay 25 cents per day for birth control pills is the most important issue for you?
Somehow, I think that there are more important issues than that for families to worry about in this miserable economy/job market that Obama has 'created'.
Rod_Father "Roy, Popular vote means nothing."
That's true, and if you look at the most recent polls of Likely Voters by State at Realclearpolitics.com, and make the historical allocation of 'Undecided Voters', it shows the following;
Electoral College votes for Romney = 316
Electoral College votes for Obama = 196
Tied Electoral College votes = 23
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Of course the election is over 2 months away, and anything could happen - Obama could even start a war with Iran in a desperate bid to win reelection (Wag the Dog), but If you are an Obama supporter, you should be concerned - especially since the 'trend line' is in Romney's favor.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Not concerned at all.
Play with the numbers all you want. In the end, Obama stays in the White House.
"President" Dingle Barry's supporter base consist of Americas Freeloaders, Losers, Mental Midgets, Lowlife's and most Blacks.
Isn't amazing how many there are?
I feel so sorry for you America if you guys get stuck with such a POS again.
I'd rather have Dingle Barry than Cheesy Grits, Etch-A-Sketch. Romney, not only no but helllllllllllllllll no. Ryan isn't strong enough of a cadidate to polish up that turd of a ticket either.
Don't forget Fisty and the handful of regulars that make up 90% of the liberal rhetoric here...
The "Media" predicted the Democrats were not going to lose the House in 2010..
Even if Romney/Ryan had a 15 percentage point lead, you'd NEVER see it here...
The pollsters distort the sampling anyway, oversampling Democrats...
I can't wait to see Ryan highlight what a mental midget Biden really is... dottering old fool...
Despite all the debate coaching he's getting, there aren't enough Cliff Notes to help Biden.
And since Team Obama has already blown all it's funds over the summer, unsuccessfully trying to boost his stats, Romney will have a 2 to 1 spending advantage in the fall. Natch, Obama will cast the Repub's successful fundraising as a negative.
Yeah right... He wishes...
As he takes a $1,000,000 check from Morgan Freeman and the rest of his Hollywood 1% buddies...
Hypocrisy is a requirement to be a Democrat.
Romney's supporters: those think they will not need medicare, pro rape, racists, and Narnia extras
Mike,
The media did not predict the house wouldn't change in 2010...everybody knows that in mid term elections the party out of power always makes gains. Pick up a history book and you might actually learn something. The American people aren't stupid. They have seen the party of no and they no that President Obama stopped another depression. Obama will win easily.
I guess you think it is pretty unethical of these millionaires like Morgan Freeman to give money to the party that is promising to raise his personal taxes for a better America for us all.
I know you want to know where is the greed and stinginess and tax cuts that republicans push that is supposed to save America? The republicans plan to only take care of the rich and the rest of us are on our own.
Which plan do you think would be better for all Americans?
Exactly.
I make over 6 figures a year, pay an effective tax rate of 20%, used to always vote Republican and there is no way in hell I am voting for Romney.
If I had one wish, it would be that the people of America open their eyes and realize that the President of the United States does not write the laws and Congress is broken. The Democratic congressmen/women are trying to responsibly represent their state/district's interest, but the Republicans are screwing over their constituents with a lockstep mentality.
If the Republicans were truly representing their constituents, it would be IMPOSSIBLE for them to be so unified on their ideals. It is unfair to the people that have elected them that their representative in Washington is allowing their people to suffer just to make a point as they try desperately to hang onto control.
The filibuster threats in the Senate and the ridiculous wasting of taxpayer dollars by the Republicans in their constant repeated attempts to pass bills they know will fail just to posture politically is handcuffing our government and not allowing progress to be made.
The members of Congress need to either start voting for the REAL benefits of THEIR state's constituents or they need to be REPLACED by ones that will.
PurelyIndy, GREAT comment!
Steve Baker . . . .
Generalize much??????? You've no idea who the people of this country are and you stink at generalizations. The President's supporters are women (SHOCKING!) with degrees (SHOCKING AGAIN!), that have jobs, families and brains. I'm very proud to say that I am one of those people and I totally support the President. I'm white by the way living in a Red State.
alan droogs Obama authorizes secret US support for Syrian rebels.
Thats a big story your breaking. Show all of us some proof. If you show no proof, you lie.
@Americans First-3238795
Dam-it First, you are gettingme all confused... From what I have been hearing for the past um-teen months is that ONLY REPs are Rich and that Romney Lead them all with the amount of cash he had.
Now you have gone and busted that bubble.
@Smitty:
(Reuters) - President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing U.S. support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, U.S. sources familiar with the matter said.
Obama's order, broadly permits the CIA and other U.S. agencies to provide support that could help the rebels oust Assad.
us-usa-syria-obama-order-idUSBRE8701OK20120801
Care for MORE Links????
Your right I was wrong. That was 20 days ago. I missed it. O well. I admit when I'm wrong and I was wrong. Guess what its not the first time nor will it the last.
Oops....Gallup 47-45 Romney, Rasmussen 44-43 Romney, PPP Wisconsin 48-47 Romney
Don't ruin the surprise!
trolls Reptards. LOL
The Public Policy Polling results with Romney ahead of Obama in Wisconsin is especially stunning, considering Obama has been ahead in that state almost double digits just two months ago.
Yup... thank God Akin saw that poll and will continue to run :)
When it can't get any worse for Akin, he is still ahead of McCaskill. The ObamaCare albatross is very tight. LOL
Obama's 47% average job approval tells all you need to know about Nov. 6. 47% won't get him re-elected. Romney leads in FL.
Road w it sounds like Aiken is your kind of Manly man type." Still dragging you knuckles , beating your chests and putting down woman. (harley chick might like ya) I thought your kind shaved your heads,and turned into Teabaggers. Oh I was right...just like u. LOL
Oh yea and A.DRUG just likes to spew lie, lies, and unfounded lies. Where is the proof??? oh yea, on Faux news right?
dal @ 6.2" "trolls Reptards. LOL"
I see that you are the most intelligent Marxist Liberal here. Brilliant.
Romney/Ryan 2012!
long long way till November but it is looking good. The swing states are holding for Obama- Romney has a very narrow path to victory- he loses Florida he is toast, loses Virginia he is gone. Obama can lose both and still have a path to victory.
The best site for polling is the 538 blog and he has Romney with about a 30% chance
Obama/Biden 2012
Winner Obama by a landslide...will happen OBAMA 2012
Hope it is true. Still think polls are for entertianment purposes only until about a week to 10 days after the last convention when all the bounces have faded and people start to lock in.
The debates will tell the rest of the story. Mope and Blame has no happy story to tell, only more smoke and mirrors.
@demtothebone:
Think of what you just said; "long long way till November but it is looking good. The swing states are holding for Obama- Romney has a very narrow path to victory- he loses Florida he is toast, loses Virginia he is gone. Obama can lose both and still have a path to victory.
If BO loses 'Both' Who the he!! is going to win them? And if Romeny wins them, then BO doesn't have a chance.
That is by YOUR OWN WORDS.
Got to Love the Libs.
times running out...
In other words, you are saying libs run off at the mouth before engaging their brains. Seems like an accurate assessment. lol!
Funny. Just this morning NPR said that Romney had a 6 point lead. I guess it's all in who you listen to.
I never pay attention to the media polls, Fox or NBC, etc. Those are biased. Only watch Gallup and Rasmussen. And BOTH show Romney in the lead. But whatever helps you peeps sleep better at night. Look at the % of demos vs reps polled on NBC. More demos were polled, so of course Obama has more of a lead. Gallup and Rasmussen use same amount of demos and reps.
some people think the polls they like are better than others, if you like a certain poll than listen to it. But just remember yours is no better than anyone elses. You say whatever helps you peeps sleep better at night, and I will say that the same can be said to you.
Obama bests Romney by 35 points (58 percent to 23 percent) on the question of which candidate is more likeable, and by 22 points (52 percent to 30 percent) on caring about average people.
I will say america's got that one right. Romney is a moron, I mean mormon.
Road Warrior,
Their not found of polls especially Rasmussen.
Road hummer has his own poll. LOL
@thetoad
Everybody loved Rasmussen back when they were reliable, but now they have a pronounced lean.
"What’s more, Obama bests Romney by 35 points (58 percent to 23 percent) on the question of which candidate is more likeable, and by 22 points (52 percent to 30 percent) on caring about average people.
In addition, a majority of voters (51 percent) view the former Massachusetts governor’s approach to issues as being 'out of step' with most Americans’ thinking. By comparison, 54 percent say Obama’s positions are 'in the mainstream.'”
Romney won't be able to significantly change these perceptions before the election in November. He better hope his mega-rich backers like the Koch Brothers and Sheldon Adelson can buy the election for him with the massive sums they will spend.
They have already started. What do you think all this voter suppression is about. Just like a dictatorship if you can't win with the voters, don't allow the people to vote.
Republicans want to start wars and kill all over the world claiming to spread democracy, while killing the right to vote at home.
The republicans tell us we can't have reasonable gun laws because one American might lose their rights to guns. But then have no problems trampling on millions of people and their constitutional guaranteed right to vote.
VOTE FOR DEMOCRACY...VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012
AF....Don't you have some city park to squat in?
Wow, I am impressed no thoughts but certainly full of hate.
Didn't you get the memo from Romney, you are the kind and loving party now.
John, are you using the library computer again?????? Be careful, you might have to wait in line for your next 10 minutes as a few of the other trolls are out of their caves tonight.
President Obama’s accomplishments:
He has done more
than any other President before him.
He has an
impressive list of accomplishments:
First President to apply for college
aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a
foreigner.
security number from a state he has never lived in.
the credit-rating of the United States.
Powers Act.
of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of
Mexico.
to purchase a product from a third party.
dollars on 'shovel-ready' jobs when there was no such thing as 'shovel-ready'
jobs.
law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the
U.S., including those with criminal convictions.
hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
corporation (Chrysler) to resign.
ability to put a man in space.
Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian
nation.
an auto-pen without being present.
an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate
increases.
manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a
factory.
the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
bankrupt an American industry (coal).
general of Ameri-Corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption
case.
replace elected officials in his office.
radical left wing anarchists.
times in his first two and a half years in office, 102 to
date.
educational and travel records.
Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
"global apology" tours and concurrent "insult our friends"
tours.
vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for
his friends paid for by the taxpayer.
servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.
& tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is
the most beautiful sound on earth.
women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they
“volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences.
Then he was the First President to tell the
members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last
suggestion.
nation over one of the American 50 states (Mexico vs Arizona).
How is this hope and change
working out for you?
THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP.
I HOPE YOU REMEMBER THIS LIST WHEN YOU
VOTE.
papabran....you are first too on top of the pile too! Manure pile....now give a source for your false rants other that fOx fake news....
starsailing, do a little reading and listening during your koolaid breaks.
I will remember that list when I vote__so I will vote Obama because I will remember the list of being a big mess of Lies from a mentally handicap fool that should be committed
Papabran
Excellent Post, You can add to the list, the first president to have been a card carrying dues paying member of a radical marxist/socialist political party,the New Party, when Obama was running for office in Illinois, as reported in the communists own newspaper , The Democratic Socialist of America, (for those who want to read the article and see photos of Obama with other party members, google,"Newspaper shows Obama belonged to Socialist Party" by Aaron Klein, or You can go to the website , http://www.wnd.com/2008/10/78945/,now this site , for some reason stopped working while on this site but if You try it elsewhere it works fine.)
Papabran...
I wouldn't be to hard on obama for his golf outings, after all, golfing can present fabulous opportunities for looking at alternate viewpoints. Unfortunately for America, obama still likes to ignore such views and do it "his (the chicago) way".
Papabran: You just confused the liberals with facts! The only defense they have is 'lies'-No they are all truths; pay attention in November to facts, and no more BS!
News98 you forgot Muslim, Kenyan, UnAmerican, Nazi, Womanlover, Manhater, socialist.......... did I forget any?
I'm surprised you guys haven't painted him as a fake black man- a current member of the KKK-and a card carrying member of the John Birch Society.
Quack-Quack-Quack
It's important to remember the verifiable, historical, facts...
Remember the day… January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress: At the time: The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77 The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5% The Unemployment rate was 4.6%. Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!
January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee. The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy? BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!!!
THANK YOU DEMOCRATS for taking us from 3.5 GDP, 4.6% Unemployment and the DOW Jones the same as it was several years ago… to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOS!
Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie - starting in 2001, because it was financially risky for the U.S. economy, but no one was listening. In addition, the economy was in a recession when Bush took over. The tech bubble burst on March 10, 2000. Terrorists attacked US soil on 9/11/2001. Katrina hit the Southern coast in Sept of 2005. These natural disasters and hangovers from the previous administration cost the economy trillions.
Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 &2011. In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.
For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budgets.
And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009. ObaMao also SUED banks to give mortgage loans to losers and won. Don’t forget that he was legal counsel for ACORN, a lowlife scum operation that is tied to all kinds of criminal activity including voter fraud and working with pimps to get their underage prostitutes homes to do their work from.
If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.
If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself. In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.
The economy was the very best it had ever been until the Democrats took over congress. Argue with facts all you want, it'll just show your lack of mental capacity and comprehension abilities. It's known as a LIBotomy. When liberalism succeeds, America fails.
no cites no sense
Libtards HATE facts! They are having a hey day on here! Especially little Redhead! Always the first one one when it's going good for the Libs. Like she has nothing else to do! The ONLY good thing Obummer did was get Bin Laden! OTherwise, he is driving this country down quicker than a jackrabbit after a running carrot!!
So what bills were passed by the Democratic Congress that Dubya didn't sign? yep, so zip it...people aren't that stupid. 6 years of complete GOP is what killed this country and the adults are in the white house and senate now, and are cleaning up the mess from you spoiled rotten rick kids.
The dumb is strong in this one.
Steve, if bush was doing such a good job, just how did we go from a surplus left by Clinton to the largest deficit in the history of our country in 8 years? Also bush inherited a good economy with low unemployment.
If you look at the numbers President Obama has already created more jobs in 4 years than bush did in 8.
Tax cuts don't create jobs they create deficits. So those aren't job creators the republicans are protecting at the cost of our economy they are the deficit creators.
Fiscal
Year
Year
Ending
National Debt
Deficit
FY1993
09/30/1993
$4.411488 trillion
FY1994
09/30/1994
$4.692749 trillion
$281.26 billion
FY1995
09/29/1995
$4.973982 trillion
$281.23 billion
FY1996
09/30/1996
$5.224810 trillion
$250.83 billion
FY1997
09/30/1997
$5.413146 trillion
$188.34 billion
FY1998
09/30/1998
$5.526193 trillion
$113.05 billion
FY1999
09/30/1999
$5.656270 trillion
$130.08 billion
FY2000
09/29/2000
$5.674178 trillion
$17.91 billion
FY2001
09/28/2001
$5.807463 trillion
$133.29 billion
@Americans First,
Why do you come here and just spread B.S.? Clinton NEVER had a surplus. Granted he only added 1.5 trillion to the debt. But every year in office the debt did increase. From 1995-2000 the Congress was controlled by Republicans. That tells you that republicans will work with the President. With Obama, it's not about the President, it is about the Presidents POLICIES and the destruction Obama is doing to this country. How does a President going on 4 years never produce a budget? His last attempt was so bad, it was voted down 97-0. The DEMS would not even vote for it. Enough with the whining the Repubs are blocking everything.
Math is hard!
Badger,
you are full of crap.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/
Hey dip@!$%#- maybe you better look at the economy previous to Bush before you start yammering about the best economy ever, you can't be that brain dead and not be locked up somewhere.
So far a majority of seniors is willing to cut off their nose to spite their face.
Just the ones who are willing to fall for the lies of "President" Dingle Barry.
Seniors don't have as much to lose as baby boomers. But my senior mother is now well aware of the issues that face her "children", and won't be voting GOP.
Seniors and baby boomers are one of the same. I'm on the BB cusp and none of my friends like what Ryan's plan is for Medicare. We're all struggling to help our parents understand it now and when we see what Ryan wants to do for us????? Not happy campers.
Steve. I think you meant to say the ones who are willing to fall for the lies of Romney. How are seniors going to be able to afford medical insurance with a voucher? Oh that's right they are old & no longer contributing to society, so they should just die right? Problem solved.
Stevie...where we come from they are called Baker berries....
Layton, I'll bet you explained to your parents about how ACA takes money from Medicare and applies it to ACA to, right? What this has done is essentially tell doctors that this is all your worth and this is all your getting. Doctors are going to stop all together or severely limit the amount of Medicare patients they see. This will then limit their care. You've probably explained to them that some of the money that's been saved in prescription drug costs is because our seniors are being denied medications, right? My mother-in-law recently passed away and was denied a prescription pill form of chemotherapy, so if your thinking of telling me that this isn't happening I call BS to you... I lived it, breathed it and watched it go on..
As far as the Ryan plan, got any other suggestions? Personally, I'm more concerned that there won't be ANY money there for me if they don't do something to fix it. Like I said, what are your suggestions to fix the mess we have on our hands?
Lastly, I would like you to explain to me and every other taxpayer why Obama lied to us and stated over and over that ACA was not a tax? Don't even begin to tell me that ACA is only a tax on those that don't carry health insurance, I would just ask you to explain the increased local, county and state taxes that have to be implemented in order to pay for the increase in the Medicaid recipients. Not to mention the increase in deductibles, co-pays and premiums so that women like Ms Fluke can run around a college campus, impersonating a rabbit, for what she terms as FREE BIRTH CONTROL.
@Ellie Mae Clampett
Ellie, I really hope you don't expect and intelligent response. I am sure you are aware that they will call names, ask for Links, say where's the proof and anything else negative they can to try and draw everyone else away from the facts.
Thanks for the Pos.
P.S. Tell Uncle Jed and Grannie I said Hi.
Happytimes...
And I am sure that moms little darling has censored her from receiving any type of balanced view.
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Layton, I am a baby boomer and I know that without funding reforms, medicare will cease to exist for anyone. Might as well decide now what discretionary spending programs you want to end to maintain medicare funding without reforms.
Don't you all know that the young people will be more than happy to pay the living expense that social security now pays(average over $1200 per month) , medical bills that medicare now pays and the nursing home care they may need. No problem out of the mininum wages some people will have and that will be cut when the Repubs Teaparty takes control.
Clayton, most seniors can not afford to pay for a nursing home right now. A large percentage of seniors that are living in nursing homes are able to stay there because they're handing over practically all of their social security checks and have qualified for MEDICAID to supplement what isn't paid for with their SS checks. So essentially we are already paying for it (via taxes), no matter what your income status is. Last time I knew, MEDICARE doesn't pay for nursing home care unless it's for a short period such as for physical therapy. Nice try though.. Now what else do you want to use to scare our senior citizens?
I find it rather odd that our first lady runs around the country protesting obesity and managed to get schools to serve what they term as "healthy lunches" and ACA doesn't pay for weight loss supplements (diet pills). Obesity has been proved to cause a multitude of other health issues, such as diabetes, and we're worried that women aren't going to get birth control. Birth control has always been covered in any health insurance plan that I've ever been enrolled in since I entered the workforce over 25 years ago. Were you aware that you can not use any funds in your self paid flex spending account to pay for weight loss aids?
Ellie Mae Clampett (great name ... as we all know that little one didn't have a thought in her brain and you use it ... sigh.... ) as for this ...
My parents are very, VERY thankful that their evaluations are now covered. Did you know Miss Ellie Mae that prior to the ACA only ONE evaluation per year was covered under Medicaid? Be that an eye evaluation, a breast exam, or a colonoscopy. My parents are very thankful for the ACA. As is my daughter who is in college and continues to be covered under my insurance. You need to walk out on the street in your neighborhood and actually see who does and does not benefit from the ACA. I'm guessing Congress's approval rating has a BOATLOAD to do with them continually voting against the ACA when it has already benefited so many in this great country.
And american ... don't live in fear. I know funding reforms need to occur but I trust the President to handle this. I don't want some corporate raider to take the funds that I have paid in since I was 14 (worked at an amusement park) and turn around and hand me a voucher. Yes, reforms need to take place, but tossing everything to the private sector (vultures!) is not going to happen under a Democratic President.
*Medicare
Diet pills are nothing more than prescription speed. If you need to lose weight Ellie Mae, I would suggest an evaluation by your doctor (which is covered under the ACA) and then modifying your diet and exercise. Talk about LAZY!
Folks, Todd Akin is da “Poster Child” for da Good Ole Boys Club and……………….
Who just Blocked da Campaign Finance Reform Bill?
Who just Blocked Obamas Job Bill?
Who just Rewrote and put a Loophole in da House Version of da Stock Act. You know da Billl that would make it Illegal for Politicians do be involved in Insider Trading Antics. How many people have gone to Prison for this and yet they think they are “Exempt” from da Law.
You Guessed it…………Cantor, Boehner, McConnell and da rest of them Republican TeaBilly Conservative Politicians.
Can you imagine da Shenanigans if Mitt “F da Poor” Romney and Paul “Middle Class Warfare” Ryan get Elected.
You BetCha…..Fer Sure.
Yo …..Mitt “ F da Poor” Romney and Paul “ Middle Class Warfare” Ryan. How about you just give Vouchers to Registered Republicans and TeaBillys. Good Luck selling that Plan to your Sheep.
You BetCha….Fer Sure.
Love,
Sarah P.
Folks……Todd Akin did not “Misspeak”. He simply stated his Repulblican TeaBilly Conservative Whack Job thoughts. Now that he “Exposed” his Right Wing Evil thoughts and Agenda…….he is Back Peddling, Finger Pointing, Using Gawd, and is all about Damage Control.
He was also on a Committee about Abortion with Paul Ryan………Hmmmmmmmmm.
This just in.............as we speak Every Republican TeaBilly Conservative Extremist is being Tested for ........"Akins Disease"..........LOL.
You BetCha......Fer Sure.
By da Way……………..when is the Last Time you saw a Republican TeaBilly Conservative open up an Orphanage or Adopt a Child from their Inner Cities?
I Hear Crickets Chirping.
You BetCha……Fer Sure.
And da Republican TeaBilly Conservative “War on Women” Continues…………..
You are what is wrong with this country...you are obviously uneducated and ignorant. Reserach shows that conservative leaning folks, like you mock, give much more to charity than their liberal counterparts. Our church just had a big fundraiser for orphans in Haiti. We have several friends who have adopted children of all races and origins. Tired of stupid people making ignorant claims based on their own narrow ideas!!
This just in………The Curiosity Rover just found Mitt “F da Poor” Romney’s Tax Records on Mars. They were laying by a Suitcase Full of Money marked “Offshore Account” for Mittens.
You BetCha…..Fer Sure.
"WITTY"!
Gotta be a liberal...
Obumer has what ?as his personal take of $7.2 billion,stolen from the old folks to pay for Obumers anti-American health care hmmmm...kowtow to the Commies on that one...:o)
Liverpool, that is a LIE! The number was 700 Million and Ryan's plan did the same thing. The CBO has debunked that talking point. That was a projected savings by reducing waste, fraud and abuse etc.
@JstdaFacts:
He!! of a name ya got there ole son, why don't ya at least try to live up to it.
Can I get a reference please? I don't believe you are correct. Thanks in advance.
The storm is heading to Tampa in more ways than one! Go Obama/Biden!!!!!!
Yep, it is time for a change.
one and done - 2012, OMG!
A teacher asked her 6th grade class how many of them were Obama fans.
Not really knowing what an Obama fan is, but wanting to be liked by the teacher, all the kids raised their hands except for Little Johnny ..
The teacher asked Little Johnny why he has decided to be different... again. Little Johnny said, "Because I'm not an Obama fan."
The teacher asked, "Why aren't you a fan of Obama?" Johnny said, "Because I'm a Republican."
The teacher asked him why he's a Republican. Little Johnny answered, "Well, my Mom's a Republican and my Dad's a Republican, so I'm a Republican." Annoyed by this answer, the teacher asked, "If your mom was a moron and your dad was an idiot, what would that make you?"
With a big smile, Little Johnny replied, "That would make me an Obama fan."
How clever. Hee-haw.
FAIL
Steve the unintelligent Reptard
Steve -
Have you ever considered doing your routine at a comedy club; you are one funny guy…
Yep... Home schooling at it's best! Good thing Johnny's back in class!
Thanks for the chuckle steve, I think fiesty's on vacation.
To make this clear , the choice is between death or Obama and misery whic is Romney . This is no chokee .
As most of you have not had your Medicare stolen from you like I have , which result is death , I guess you will pick Obama . The big thing about Obama is that he is taking from the contractually entitled . Many of you think that Obama Medicare for children is OK . It is not , it thanks to Obama is an inferior medical coverage . Obama made it this way with the rest of the irresponsible and criminally negligent democrats .
um...what's a "chokee"?
Chuckieeeeee.....What the chuck?....Try going to the real website for facts....instead of doing meth...go to www.healthcare.org The real website for all the answers to get correct medical care for Chuck....www.healthcare.org
Yeah...okay....NBC "poll"....too funny.....it won't even be close.....80+ days and this sideshow will be OVER.
OMG = ObaMao Must Go.
The people that are voting for Obama don't know what they are giving away Steve. He is our first Imperialist President. Without going through proper channels of Congress he just either decides to enforce a law or disavow it. They love it now but what will happen if a Repub or Conservative did the same thing? We are on the brink of losing our freedom and yet the fools love it. I see a civil war in the near future if things don't change.
What do you think we will be giving up voting for a republican?
First women give up the right to decide about her own body. Women give up the right to be first class citizens.
If you want to give up medicare then vote for a republican.
If you want to give up social security then vote for a republican.
If you want to give up care for our wounded veterans for more tax cuts for Romney then vote for a republican.
If you want to see American children starve then vote for a republican.
If you want to give up clean air to breathe then vote for a republican.
If you want to give up clean water to drink then vote for a republican.
If you want to give up a government that protects us from corporations then vote for a republican.
If you want to give up a living wage and all the benefits that unions have brought us then vote for a republican.
If you want to lose your right to birth control then vote for a republican.
Most of all if you want to lose your right to a democracy and our rights to vote then vote for a republican.
I think if the republicans can vote women into second class citizens with government in control of her body that women's right to vote will be what the republicans get rid of next.
Want to lose your rights and freedom, vote for a republican.
Want to lose your rights and even more freedoms??? Vote for another 4 foolish years of OBAMA....you know...the COMMUNIST President??? The Marxist President?? The Socialist President??? We have already lost FREEDOM of SPEECH Under OBAMA.....what's next????? OBAMA sucks, OBAMA blows, I pray for the day OBAMA goes!!!!
Wow, you can type scary words that don't connect to anything. what????????????????????????is????????????wrong???????????????????with???????????????????you????????????????????
What freedom of speech did you lose? I haven't lost any of mine.
VOTE FOR SANITY....VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012
Tomkat...the restaturant owner asked me to tell you to stop writing your ph number in the mens room. That is all.
@ starsailing
Your dad wants you to stop calling him.
Americans first...
If you are serious about voting for sanity then you will be voting for anyone but obama.
Obama is the right man for the job. Romney has been a failure for America. Tax cheat, medicare killer, bailout recipient, and liar. Obama Bin Laden getter and ending a WAR. Scorecard is in and Obama is the man!!
Obama Bin Laden. I like that. Reminds everybody that we are still bringing home body bags a year and a half after he was killed.
dal is waiting for his welfare check.
After 4 years, the debt has inceased by 6 trillion dollars, the unemployment is still above 8% and is now considered normal? Food stamp program is very successful. Unemployment checks are booming, the people who think things are bad are growing, is this what makes a presiden successful? Every recession in the history of this country has shown improvement by the 3 year (except FDR, of which plan Obama seems to be following). What makes it worse is he had two years to get anything he wanted, Immagration, tax increases for the rich, and he decided on government control of healthcare. Most of which will take effect ager he leaves office,with any luck.
And yet people are going to vote for that fool Obama. The man that is taking away their freedom and they don't even know it. Don't you agree 200Michael?
Roadwarrior...let's have that discussion on how Bush / Cheney lied the nation and world into flalse war in Iraq just for war profits and bush to be known a war president because war presidents are remembered. Thanks for bringing the Afgan war up...Bush abandoned our troops there and removed all the supplies and support over to fight in Iraq where thousands of our troops were killed and wounded...Afgan soldiers still dying because Bush abandoned them there. President Obama has them pulling out soon....
Would you like to see a list of lies how Bush Cheney started the fake war? BUSH CHENEY THE WAR CRIMINALS...Romney hired 17 of 24 of BUSH CHENEY advisors . WHY HIRE THE KILLER ADVISORS FROM BUSH?
http://www.motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline
Repubs not only have war on women, they have war on American workers!
WHY DO REPUBS HATE AMERICAN WORKERS ? WHY DO THEY TAKE AMERICAN JOBS OFFSHORE? BECAUSE OF $$$$$$$$$$$ REPUBS LOVE MONEY MORE THAN THEIR COUNTRY!
Repubs on 7-19-12 blocked taking away tax breaks from companies that outsource jobs from America. In the same bill repubs blocked giving tax breaks to companies bringing jobs back to AMERICA!WHY DO REPUBS HATE AMERICAN WORKERS? Because the want profits offshore so they can hide their profits without paying any taxes on them$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Repubs blocked bill to remove Big Oil subsidies even when Big Oil execs testified they did not need them!
Ryan and Romney support keeping tax breaks for companies who offshore American jobs!!! Ryan and Romney support subsidies for big oil.
Vote President Obama/Biden , bring American jobs back!!!!
Eric Cantor is still da Biggest “Weasel in Politics”. You BetCha….Fer Sure.
John Boehner is One Real Big “Puzzy”.
Wouldn’t Mitch McConnell make da Perfect “Turtle Head”?
OK we gave the affirmative action goofball a chance. He is a stupid individual who was eased through school because of his race. When he hit a real responsibility he was not up to the challenge.
Rob, that is the garbage the republicans are pushing. But the truth is that the republicans have blocked anything that would create jobs or bring our economy up.
You want to blame President Obama for failure of his policies that the republicans would never let be implemented. All to bring President Obama down and prove to the superior whites that those black men just aren't up to the challenge.
Eased through school because of his race. What a racist line of bs.
Good-bye you are now on ignore, I don't waste my time reading racist worthless crap.
romney had my vote until he picked ryan. Go after medicare with vouchers...wtf. That's dumb and pe's off 2/3 of america. I have a job, I don't give a rat's behind about the unemployed. The work force is gonna shrink in about 5-6 years and the rate will go down. ...Also, romney backs off on iillegals in the general election and was already for obama care in mass. So now, he is going to cut taxes? I mean, does he bring anything to the table outside of not being obama? You have to wonder. I mean, don't get me wrong, obama su cks and is a lousy executive but if your not going to do anything except status quo on govenment spending on defense and big ticket items, why should I elect you. Romney , needs to fire his campaign manager and start acting like an adult. Can't come up with another 3 years of tax returns just to put out a fire? Obama forged a birth certificate and got away with it..... I mean, whats going on with this liberal. Who wants to be president.
Are you going to have your freedom if you vote for Obama jolly joker? Look at what he has done to the Constitution and tell me you are going to vote for him
Do tell us just exactly what has he done to the constitution? Without a 2/3 vote I don't think our President can do anything to the constitution.
What freedom have you lost?
But for sure if the republicans win women will lose their freedom to decide if and when she will have children. Wouldn't you feel safe with the government between you and your doctor with no concern for the mother only for the egg she carries?
But once that egg is born, it can starve to death for all the republicans care. That egg can grow up and go and fight in our wars and come home wounded and the republicans would deny the wounded veteran care for more tax cuts for Romney and his rich friends.
A vote for Romney is a vote for the 1% deficit creators and their tax cuts.
REPUBS HATE ELDERLY< THE YOUNG< THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS BY TAKING AWAY THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE! Repubs creating voter suppression laws all over the country when even their own studies show it does not exist. Repubs in Minnesota are trying to remove same day voter registration when there is ZERO problems registering. People update their voter info and people who are 18 are registering. Repubs don't want the young protecting their interests like having low intersts rate loans(repubs were blocking) Elderly, disabled trying to vote to keep Social Security , Medicare, Medicaid which repubs are trying to take away. REPUBS ONLY WANT CORPORATIONS ARE PEOPLE TOO VOTING for $$$$$$ for the Romney rich!
Cigito....try a little current events.......Have you been awake last 4 years? Ref Richard Draper book on House of reps!
"REPUBS HATE ELDERLY< THE YOUNG< THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS BY TAKING AWAY THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE!"
Democrats are stupid, hysterical and emotional people.
ROTFLMAO at that comment ! ! !
Bill in Tejas....ROTFLMAOKDPOSKJKSOITJSLKSER at your comment!!!! Romney for President, unless of course you like our current crash course of (these are all on Obama's watch):
- Highest poverty levels since Lyndon Johnson was President
- Most consecutive months of >8% unemployment in the history of the U.S.
- More people on foodstamps now than ever in the U.S.
- Worst real estate debacle since the Great Depression
- Worst post-recession economic recovery since WWII
- Highest number of home foreclosures in the history of the U.S.
- The highest amount of debt ever recorded in the U.S. ($15 trillion)
- I can keep going, but what's the point...
Sorry to say folks, Romney will probably make you get a job and get off the food stamps, which means no more mid-day bon bon's and Jerry Springer for you....awwwww!
@supercole, I believe that was the whole idea of the stimulus to get folks back to work. also you need to realize that our fellow americans that are receiving foodstamps right now are the hardworking middleclass who paid taxes before Bush destroyed them and they lost everything. I am sure most folks would prefer working since many people like my 82 year old mom who worked two jobs all her life, had to leave her job before getting her full retirement to take care of her mom and only gets 35 dollars of foodstamps. WHy not save your criticizm for the wealthy entitlement receivers who have not created any jobs as they promised
cantbelieveitno - yeah, it's still Bush's fault! Get real, would you? When, just when, are you going to hold this president accountable for anything? He is not a leader, he is divisive and has everyone holding onto fear. That is his biggest failure.
Bush destroyed NOTHING you stupid liberal! The economy was GREAT under Bush! I'll take another 8 years of that! When the DEMONRATS got control of the Congress in 2006, IT ONLY TOOK THEM TWO YEARS TO SINK THE ECONOMY! And Bush tried to get Congress to deal with Freddie and Fannie, and SAID THERE WOULD BE A CRISIS IF WE DIDN'T. Who stonewalled and accused Republicans of "racism"??? Why that flaming Sodomite drug-dealer Barney Frank, and other demon-rats! Frank said the economy was FINE in 2006 and that NOTHING LIKE what the Republicans warned of was possible. That lying fruit-cake wrote these stupid laws in the 1990s with Chris Dodd and Bill Clinton THEY ARE THE ONES WHO CAUSED THE FINANCIAL CRISIS! Yes DEMOCRATS DID THIS AND NOW THEY LIE AND SAY BUSH DID IT. What worthless pieces of manure! What wicked, criminal PIGS! They belong in jail AFTER A PUBLIC WHIPPING!