Obama casts Romney as out of touch on education

 

COLUMBUS, OH – President Obama unveiled a new line of attack against Mitt Romney over education, casting his opponent as out-of-touch, and claiming he would institute harmful cuts to student loans if elected.

The president seized on comments first made by Romney in April in Ohio, in which he encouraged would-be students to pursue entrepreneurship, even if it meant they would "borrow money, if you have to, from your parents."

“I want to make sure everybody understands, not everybody has parents who have the money to lend," Obama said Tuesday before a crowd of more than 3,000 at Capital University.

While Obama did not mention Romney’s running mate Paul Ryan by name, much of his criticism of Romney’s education policy referred to the cuts to programs, including education, in the Wisconsin congressman's budgets.

“The economic plan my opponent has would cut our investment in education by nearly 20 percent,” Obama said. “It would cut those grants so deeply that one million of those students who we have helped would no longer get a scholarship at all. It would cut financial aid for nearly 10 million students a year.”

But Ryan’s cuts leave the Republican ticket open to Democratic speculation about what they “could” cut – something the Obama campaign underscored in a radio ad that aired in Ohio ahead of the president’s visit.

“What does it say about Mitt Romney that he chose Congressman Paul Ryan as his running mate, the architect of a budget so extreme it could slash education funding by 20 percent?” a woman’s voice says in the minute-long radio ad.

“Ryan’s budget could cut Pell grants for up to 356,000 Ohio students,” the spot continues. 

Ryan has indicated he would maintain a maximum Pell grant level of $5,500 while also increasing eligibility requirements for students looking to apply for a grant.

Obama on Tuesday contrasted that with his expansion of the popular higher education program.

"Since I took office we have helped more than three million additional students afford a college education with grants that go farther than they did before,” he said.

He also touted what he characterized as a victory over House Republicans in the battle to keep student loan interest rates from doubling, as they were scheduled to at the end of July.

“We fought to make sure the interest rate on federal student loans didn’t go up over the summer. We won that fight,” Obama said. “Some of these Republican members of Congress would have allowed those rates to double,” he continued, his one allusion to Ryan’s colleagues in the House.

Obama will continue his focus on education this evening at a rally in Reno, Nevada.

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OUCH! Keep hammering these two out of touch mongrels!

Here's a basic question, if a students parents has the money available to fund their childrens education, WHY would there be a need for them to take out a loan?

Do these idiots think people enjoy racking up debt to receive a higher education?

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Reply#1 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

Ryan look at what you built. Obstruction and mountains of debt for years since you've been a tool of the GOP & T-potty (Koch bros). What you outline is clear as day that you do not care about the future of America; our children's education. Yet, you got your education from the government. It would have been very easy for you and MYTH Romney to borrow money from your parents since you both are multi-millionaires.


BTW: the government helped build Ryan Construction


http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/14/688761/paul-ryans-family-business-built-on-government-contracts/


Lean Forward

Obama/Biden2012

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#1.1 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

Oh Brother...

    #1.2 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

    Both Romney-Ryan budgets would slash funding to Education by 20 percent - which would cut 1 million students from scholarships, and 10 million students from financial aid.

    Rombley's two big ideas/solutions for students is to (1) borrow money from your parents and (2) to shop around.

    Ah, the voice of out-of-touch privilege.

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    #1.3 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

    The question is, why do we need the Department of Education to spend money on their salaries instead of paying teachers more and putting more money in classrooms?

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    #1.4 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

    JERSEY GIRL - You show with that post that you really don't understand much. OMG - a typical Republican and truly from New Jersey!

    Obama/Biden 2012

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    #1.5 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

    Aren't you forming an argument for not for profit or publicly funded education?

      #1.6 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:35 PM EDT
      DropItLowDeleted

      Liberals would rather grow Washington and the Department of Education, than educate our children and pay our teachers. Very sad.

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      #1.8 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

      Just "out-of-touch" on everything will do. The rightwing agenda of destroying everything from education to an energy policy to you name it, as well as attacking every group in this country -- It's easier to ask what is NOT on the hit list?

      JERSY GIRL 1 -- Prove it. Sweet Jeebus. Speaking of which...

      I realized last night that Romney/Ryan are trolls. They change the topic with a new lie every time they are cornered on their own failed ideology.

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      #1.9 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

      Here's a basic question, if a students parents has the money available to fund their childrens education, WHY would there be a need for them to take out a loan?

      Again, not a one of the right wing nitwits can answer a simple question!

      Lot's of hyperbole and ZERO facts!

        #1.10 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:24 PM EDT
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        Feisty Dumb Fux, maybe the Government should give the Student Loan program back to the banks. They had no business taking it over...you see when the government takes over programs, they screw it up. Freddie and Fannie, the Postal Service, GM, and now Healthcare. Most of the increases in tuition is because colleges are adding Rock Climbing, Spa's, elaborate dining facilities and what not. Why, because of competition...to get students to go to their university.

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        Reply#2 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

        JFK -

        Do you have any evidence to support that, or is it merely your opinion?

        Evidence to the contrary:

        At most public colleges, increases in tuition mirror cutbacks in state spending. Nationwide, these institutions saw a 7.5% reduction in state funding on average during the 2011-12 school year from the year prior, according to the College Board. State support and tuition are the two largest revenue sources for public colleges, and when the former drops, the burden is often shifted to payers of the latter. The upshot of recent cuts is that public tuition overall has been rising almost twice as fast as costs at private colleges in recent years. For in-state residents at four-year public schools, tuition and fees are up 25.1% from the 2008-09 academic year; over the same time period, tuition and fees at private universities rose 13.2%.

        www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/14/college-tuition-costs-rising_n_1776068.html?utm_hp_ref=money

        Paul Ryan - The Deficit? I Built That!

        • 8 votes
        #2.1 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:20 PM EDT

        Look up University of Missouri...

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        #2.2 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

        Great link TNSEVOL,

        GOP has been cutting Higher Ed for decades. GOP governors have done a big slash job on Head start and K-12 while cutting 300,000 teaching jobs (mostly women).

        GOP figures they can pay all those teachers they laid off in peanuts - in right wing private for-profit schools.

        • 4 votes
        #2.3 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

        I understand that a ton of money gets spent on salaries in Washington that doesn't benefit one single student. I went to school when there was NO Department of Education in Washington. I had a great education. I had really good school lunches. So you tell me what happened. As the Department of Education grew, less money was being spent in the classrooms. You Liberals all seem to think that the government IS the answer to all your problems. Washington is so out of touch with reality, they are the last ones to decide on a child's education and how to spend money effectively. I had a 3.6 grade average in high school and a 3.9 grade average in college. You don't have to be Liberal to be smart.

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        #2.4 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

        Wow Jersy Girl 1--interesting--for years the conservatives and now the TPGOP has whinged on that it was the public school teachers and the teacher's unions that were sucking up all the money out of education. Now it is the Department of Education in Washington that is the culprit? Who knew...?

        "We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

        • 2 votes
        #2.5 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:01 PM EDT
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        Romney made the same comments in Portland at a rally held here during the primary. A woman in the audience was talking about the huge debt these young people are graduating with, and Romney's "solution" was, basically, these kids shouldn't go to college if they can't pay cash.

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        Reply#3 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

        I worked while I went to college and paid for my education out of the money I made. I didn't expect the government to help me and my parents couldn't afford to.

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        #3.1 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

        JERSY GIRL 1

        yeah, well, medical school costs a little more today than what you paid to become a certified beautician, so do take that into consideration.

        • 5 votes
        #3.2 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

        JERSY GIRL,

        I did the same working full time.

        But when I went the cost was about 10% of my take home pay. With the cost of college today at the same university (OSU) the cost would be about 40% of my take home pay.

        I wonder what the cost would be at a private university.

        • 5 votes
        #3.3 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

        Amy, FYI, I own my business and it isn't a beauty school. I have managed an office for a finance company back when there were no female managers. As I said you Liberals think you are the only people with brains, when in fact I wonder whether you have brains and are even capable of thinking on your own.

        • 3 votes
        #3.4 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

        Yes but it also didn't take most students the 5 or 6 years they are taking to graduate today because they change majors, can't make up their minds or generally just party too much. I have so many family members and friends whose children are on their 5 year mark and still haven't graduated. One of my cousins and her husbands are both doctors and both of their sons took 6 years. In my previous position I interviewed and hired a lot of recent graduates and very few graduated in 4 years.

        • 1 vote
        #3.5 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

        Dennis, not everyone needs to go to a private university and not everyone is going to become a doctor. I understand that schools are much more expensive now, but the question is why are they more expensive? Why is there such a big jump in costs every year? Ask yourself these questions.

        • 2 votes
        #3.6 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

        Jersey Girl, The fact that the Department of Education exists is not necessarily the reason why education costs so much more now. I wouldn't be so sure of a cause and effect relationship there. I suspect it's a combination of factors, of which the Dept. of Education may only be a small part. I don't think the problem would be solved by eliminating the Dept. of Education.

        I have noticed that our government does not make use of foresight and "objective based solutions" very often. By "objective based solutions" I mean deciding on the objective first and then calculating the steps needed to get from here to there. It seems that more often they just take ideological action and hope we might end up somewhere better than where we are. I have noticed in my life that that philosophy doesn't really work very well.

        • 2 votes
        #3.7 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:16 PM EDT
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        Is it any wonder that the right doesn't want an educated electorate?

        • 6 votes
        Reply#4 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

        Is it any wonder brainwashed libs buy into the Government as their Mommy, Daddy and Nanny?

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        #4.1 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

        Additional funding isn't the answer especially at K-12 grades. The problem is parents who don't take an interest in their children education especially single welfare moms but we can't address that elephant in the room. The city of Holyoke MA a urban city known for generational welfare recipients spend more per student than Longmeadow MA an upper middle class community. Longmeadow graduation rate is 99% where as Holyoke graduation rate is 75%. Look at LA its has a 49% graduation rate. The other problem is English as a second language this program dosen't help students its a crutch for non english speaking student to not learn english. How many of them graduate high school and still can't read and write English? My father came here at the of eight and there were no English as a second lanaguage class and some how he learn English and graduated High School.

          #4.2 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:59 PM EDT
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          DropItLowDeleted

          Obama spends his reelection campaign giving speeches trying to bribe voters and bragging about how much the government is spending...money we dont have.

          • 1 vote
          Reply#7 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

          Voters should know by now, you cant outbid Obama in his promises to give freebies...

          Obama will take care of all you helpless dependents, not to worry...unlimited student loans (which you never will have to pay back, sshhh) free health care, cable TV and car washes.....

          If the radical Obama gets a second term , it will be "Spending Gone Wild" You aint seen nothing yet, the giveaway of government money we dont have will accelerate.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#8 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

          Keeping Pell grants around "for all you helpless dependents"...you're right, wild and reckless! Republicans keep saying, pull yourself up, stop being lazy, don't depend on others.....but unless you're born rich....they're not going to give you any help whatsoever!

          • 1 vote
          #8.1 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:32 PM EDT
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          'Don't take out a loan; borrow the money from your parents'--(like I did). 'Shop around, look for a cheaper school'--(Ivy league schools are for the rich, like me)......out of touch with the middle class...oh, yeah.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#9 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

          Mittens is only saying "step down for the good of the country" because they might lose the Senate seat. PERIOD. GOP=suppress votes and Romney will win. (on tape people, wake up !!!!!!) They trying to steal this election AGAIN

          • 1 vote
          Reply#10 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

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            Reply#11 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:00 PM EDT

            Dear Friends:

            My post is under the protection of the USA Constitution for freedom of speach!

            Ryan, the plumber comment was who's? You cannot think for yourself? Who or what is in your mind?

            I know the Mormons are rampant out here 24/7 with their screaming heebee jeebies! Bugs!.

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