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President Barack Obama deflected Republican criticism of his campaign's negativity, challenging general election opponent Mitt Romney: "You can't just make stuff up."
In an impromptu press conference at the White House, the president said his own campaign's television and radio advertisements against the presumptive Republican presidential nominee never crossed the line.
Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP
President Barack Obama speaks in the White House briefing room in Washington Aug. 20.
"If you look at the overall trajectory of the campaign and the ads that I have approved and that are produced by my campaign, you'll see that we point out sharp differences between the candidates, but we don't go out of bounds," Obama said.
Some of the sharpest instances of negativity during the 2012 campaign -- Vice President Joe Biden's comment before a mixed-race audience that Republicans and Wall Street would "put y'all back in chains" -- prompted Romney to condemn Obama for running a "campaign of division and anger and hate."
Campaigning with running mate Paul Ryan on Monday in New Hampshire, Romney accused the Obama campaign of lying by saying his tax plan would result in higher taxes.
At an impromptu White House news conference, President Obama comments on GOP Mo., Senate candidate Todd Akin's remarks about rape, Mitt Romney's refusal to release more than two years' worth of tax returns, and the unrest in Syria. Watch the entire news conference.
"It seems that the first victim of an Obama campaign is the truth, and it has been sad and disappointing," Romney said.
The Obama campaign's assertion was based on a nonpartisan tax group's analysis that middle class families would effectively face a higher tax burden if Romney eliminated many popular deductions as part of his comprehensive tax reform.
The former Massachusetts governor's grievances don't end there, either. The Romney campaign was particularly incensed by an ad produced by Priorities USA, a pro-Obama super PAC, which suggests a man's wife died from cancer because he lost his insurance after was laid off from his job at a company owned by Bain Capital, the private equity firm founded by Romney.
"I don't think that Gov. Romney is somehow responsible for the death of the woman that was portrayed in that ad. But keep in mind: this is an ad that I didn't approve, I did not produce, and, as far as I can tell, has barely run -- I think it ran once," Obama said.
But the president also challenged Romney's own advertising on welfare, which assert that Obama had "gutted" the centerpiece of the 1995 welfare reform law, which tied benefits to seeking work.
"You've got Gov. Romney creating as a centerpiece of his campaign this notion that we're taking [the] work requirement out of welfare, which every single person here who's looked at it says is patently false," Obama said. "They can run the campaign that they want, but the truth of the matter is, you can't just make stuff up."
The president's comments Monday come as POLITICO published a new e-book describing internal tension in the Obama campaign regarding the trajectory of the re-election campaign, and how the sharper edges of Obama's 2012 effort square with the more optimistic banner of "hope and change" in 2008.
Republicans have sought to make an issue of disillusionment with Obama's shift; the Republican National Committee produced an ad last week accusing the president of running a campaign of "anger and division."
But the president said he was satisfied with the manner of his campaign.
"I feel very comfortable with the fact that, when you look at the campaign we're running, we are focused on the issues and differences that matter to middle class families all across America," Obama said. "And that's exactly the kind of debate the American people deserve."
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Medicare: Ryan versus Facts
RYAN: "The President raided $716 billion from the Medicare program to pay for the Obamacare program."
FACT: The ACA's $716B in Medicare cuts, which Ryan included in the GOP budget, would slow the growth of Medicare over the next decade (2013-2022) and would not affect seniors' benefits. Instead, the savings would eliminate overpayments to private insurers, reform provider payments to encourage greater efficiency, tie reimbursements to improvements in economic productivity, and reduce fraud and abuse. As a result, the solvency of the Medicare trust fund is extended by 8 years.
RYAN: "He puts a board of 15 unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats in charge of Medicare, who are required to cut Medicare in ways that will lead to denied care for current seniors."
FACT: The Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB) is tasked with making binding recommendations to Congress for lowering health care spending should costs increase too rapidly. The panel's plan will modify payments to providers but cannot "include any recommendation to ration health care, raise revenues or Medicare beneficiary premiums…increase Medicare beneficiary cost- sharing (including deductibles, coinsurance, and co- payments), or otherwise restrict benefits or modify eligibility criteria" (Section 3403 of the ACA). Its members are appointed by the president but confirmed by the Senate. Ryan himself proposed two IPAB-like structures in a 2009 health plan.
RYAN: One out of six of our hospitals and our nursing homes will go out of business as a result of this. Four million seniors are projected to lose their Medicare Advantage plans that they enjoy and they chose today under this Obamacare plan.
FACT: Far from destroying Medicare Advantage, the choices available through the program are âstronger than ever. Premiums for the program are lower and enrollment has increased since Obamacare became law. Studies have also shown that the provider cuts in the law will lead doctors and hospitals to improve productivity and efficiency, resulting in substantial savings throughout the health care system.
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Thank you Mr. President. Very true words. Earlier today we heard that Mitt didn't care what his ads said .. whether they were true or not. Great facts Dennis. It makes me SICK that they run around spewing the Medicare LIES to seniors! My parents are confused enough with the whole Medicare D plan without more rhetoric BS lying from R&R!
But, I'm sorry Mr. President,
They can make stuff up. As a matter of fact, That's all they can do!
They have no platform to run on. All they can do is try to mislead the American People with lies and deception.
If all Americans knew what their plan for our country was, They would be thrown out.
Oh dear Concern is confused. Why am I not surprised? You just can't make this stuff up!
Dennis - LMAO, Concern can't follow your post! Now, is that surprising???
Great post by the way. Facts are hard to dispute - unless you're Romney/Ryan!
Obama/Biden 2012
Did I see the article correctly? Did it say OBAMA said "You Just Can't Make Stuff Up"? Are you SERIOUS?? OBAMA said that?? Obama must have been looking in the mirror when he said that..........
I'm giving concerned an upvote, because that's the most intelligent thing they ever posted!
@Dennis, Columbus, Ohio - Good form! At least someone turned off the tv and did some research!
What I can't believe he didn't mention is how Romney has twisted his "you didn't build that" comment and hacked it to bits. Not even close to what the president said. Romney is a two faced sack of you know what.
He is not to be trusted.
Politifact says that Romney lies 71% of the time. So yes, he is just making things up!
R & R says that Obama stole $716 billion. Why is that same $716 Billion in his budget.
I don't know which one is R and which one is R.
Romney whines all the time. Is he trying for more votes from females? I mean really? Next he will have Ryan in a dress
Romney-Ryan 2012: The Herman & Eddie Munster Ticket
@ UNCONCERNECNED (not such a good citizen): "READING IS FUNDAMENTAL." don'tcha know!
You can't make stuff up? Well I think both sides have made stuff up. Was Romney really responsible fo that womans death? No and I know President Obama just said he did not aprove that ad but he sure has not come out and condemed the ad. Both parties and all involved need to provide better information so all can do their own research. I would ask everyone to go out and do your own reasearch. Do not just goto one source. Look at all sides.
Dennis, Columbus, Ohio
Medicare: Ryan versus Facts
Dennis, It make one wonder do the Republican ever read the Fact checks?
Obama: We never called Romney a felon
Dennis, great post.
Romney can't help himself - all he does is "just make stuff up".
Talking to an Air Force pilot, Mitt Romney claimed he was at Fenway Park when the Red Sox won the World Series in 2004. In reality, Romney "just made that up" - the Red Sox clinched the championship in Game 4 of the World Series at St. Louis - on a day when Romney was campaigning in New Hampshire for GW Bush!!
Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!
Romney/Ryan: Medicare? We Can
FixEnd That!Once again we see why the Obama campaign operatives don't let Obama speak to the press very often.
Did Barry get around to mentioning the private sector? Is it still doing fine?
"You didn't build that" - Barack H. Obama to small business owners
Q22,
Romney won’t release additional tax returns because it will show that in 2009 he took the amnesty deal to avoid being charged with a felony.
Our President won’t say it but I will.
Good for you Mr. President, keep'em coming.
If they're crying you must be scoring big time.
Wah-wah-wah. I love the sound of GOP whines, it sounds like VICTORY!
"Legitimate rape?" Are you serious?
Swimming buck-nekkid where Jesus walked? Really?
You're right Mr. President, you can't make this stuff up. Hey Mitt, where are those tax returns?
Obama/Biden 2012
So is Romneyhood a felon or not? Release the tax returns.
BTW, how can one live in and pay taxes in one state while claiming to be living in another state?
Dennis: You REALLY don't believe what you typed - do you?
1) Obamacare cuts $716 billion from Medicare. IT SAYS THAT IN OBAMACARE!! How do you spin THAT?!?!? A cut to Medicare is a cut in Medicare. Ultimately it comes from SOMEWHERE!! You can't selectively "cut" from Medicare and then say but it's not really a cut to Medicare.
Oh, and by the way, you say "and by the way it is in the Ryan budget" - well DUH!! The House puts together a budget based on THE LAW which ObamaCare is now. That means, unless it is repealed, it is REQUIRED to cut Medicare $716 billion. Ryan can't decide on his own WHAT TO CUT AND WHAT NOT TO CUT if it is LAW!! ObamaCare REQUIRES a $716 billion cut in Medicare so the Ryan budget MUST INCLUDE that cut. Seriously, you MUST understand that don't you? If not you shouldn't even be allowed to vote. BTW, was it in the Senate budget too? Oh that's right - they haven't put forth a budget going on 4 years: That was a silly question.
2) Isn't there an Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB) of 15 unelected officials who will make the ultimate decision required in ObamaCare? Interesting how you tried to twist that too but it is IN OBAMACARE LAW!! 15 people - unelected - Advisory Board......... Good try to spin that one too.
3) 1 out of 6 hospitals will close. That was a study done and Ryan did not just "make that up". When the cost of health care increases and the reimbursements from an ever expanding ObamaCare continue to decrease profitability declines thus 1 in 6 will close. Improve productivity and efficiency? Seriously? Have you talked with your doctor recently or anybody in medicine? The forms currently required are overwhelming and significantly increasing the costs of doing business (and already caused doctors to "opt out" of taking more Medicare patients - what do you think will happen when reimbursements fall FURTHER thanks to the $716 billion in cuts ObamaCare requires?).
And ObamaCare is 2700 pages. 2700 PAGES!! And that is just the law!! Now the REQUIREMENTS of that law (regulations) must be written which is already over 8000 PAGES and is just barely getting started!! And you want to believe that when doctors must follow what will ultimately be at least 20,000 pages of regulations THAT will make things more productive and efficient? Seriously, nobody with the IQ of at least 10 points above a turnip could believe that.
Funny the article talks about Obama saying "You Just Can't Make Stuff Up" but that is EXACTLY what Dennis did..........
Did Mitt Romney get around to mentioning a platform that doesn't rely on thirty years of failed principles?
Just to make sure I am getting this straight....it's ok for a Dem super pac to run an ad and for the President distance himself by saying he didn't approve or produce it, but it's not OK for the same from Romney?
Funny how no one wants to mention that. Frankly I dont trust either one. I think the President has not done what he said he would, and has not brought people together in any fashion. In fact, I think a lot of his decisions has done more dividing than anything else. I also don't think Romney is the answer, especially w/ his VP pick. I dont like his record and I too am curious about his tax records.
In a country as big as ours, with as many smart people we have....these are the best two we can come up with?
2011 Politifacts Lie of the year: Republicans voted to end Medicare.
Yet you are still peddling this nonsense.
ProBusiness,
Clearly you do not understand either Medicare or the ACA.
Your item “2)” is what Paul Ryan said so please correct him – Thanks
If you do the math on Politifact you find that Romney only tells the truth 29% of the time.
Obama is correct to point out the lies.
JAS! and who said ...
"Every successful individual knows that his or her achievement depends on a community of persons working together."
That bell rings the same as "you did not build that." I give Ryan credit for wording it better, but it is at the end of your current nightmare the same thing.
Dennis, your opinion is meaningless. The President lied about calling Romney a felon. They did. Pants on fire!
JAS - as usual, you don't have a clue! Our President speaks to the press regularly. It is ROMNEY who is not allowed to go off script and actually talk to the press - or answer any question from the audience. See they know he will show how much of a moron he is - flipping again and again!
Obama/Biden 2012
Dennis is following Obama's lead and just making stuff up.
Pro Business,
So when Obama takes the $716 billion in'savings to Medicare" by reducing payments to providers and hospials, then puts it "back into Medicare" to provide seniors free preventative health care and closes the drug donut hole that used to cost the seniors millions of dollars, what is that called..Destroying Medicare? NOT!! That 1 simple step added 8 years to the solvency of Medicare.
When Romney/Ryan make Medicare a voucher based program, and Medicare costs go up more than the value of the voucher, it costs seniors millions..Is that perserving Medicare? NOT!!
Just another lie on a long list of Romney lies: Obama cut Medicare funding. In fact, Obama did not cut Medicare, i.e., funding for direct medical care; Obama did, however, cut $716 billion in waste, fraud, Republican authorized subsidies to pharmaceutical companies, Republican authorized overpayments to parasitic insurers like UnitedDeathcare, Republican authorized needless and ambiguous “administrative costs,” and Republican authorized exorbitant provider reimbursement fees. As a result of provisions contained within the Affordable Care Act, cost saving measures implemented by Obama will extend Medicare solvency beyond 2024, a solution Romney opposes because both he and Ryan want to abolish Medicare in favor of expanding the health insurance monopoly through privatization. The Ryan Plan calls for a $700 billion reduction in Medicare benefits, while requiring seniors to offset these cuts by paying $6,400 in annual “premium” charges, which based upon the rate of inflation, would double to $12,800 by 2021. Romney won’t tell seniors that the $700 billion in cuts would go towards offsetting $5 trillion in tax cuts for millionaires.
Copy and pasted...
Give us an example of Obama making stuff up?
Q22:
You never called Obama a felon because he didn't do anything felonious. Mitt Romney, on the other hand has several instances that may rise to the level of a felony. The signatures on the SEC documents is one example. Insiders say NOBODY ever gets charged when they put their signature on an OFFICIAL SEC FILING that THEY KNOW IS FALSE. Huh? That makes it LESS A FELONY? I suggest those other people that lie on official documents used by other investors to determine company management ALSO get charged.
And THEN there are the tax returns. We can ONLY ASSUME, absent the RELEVANT TAX DOCUMENTS, that Mitt Romney took advantage of a TAX AMNESTY for people that ILLEGALLY had money in overseas accounts. That is DEFINITELY A FELONY.
I guess you can parse it that HE DIDN'T GET CAUGHT or he didn't get CHARGED, but that hardly makes it LESS OF A FELONY!
Speaks to the press regularly - I guess People's magazine, entertainment today and a local New Mexico radio station that asked him hardball questions like do you prefer red or green chilies is talking to the press. Why was the White House Press Corp complaining that Obama hadn't had a Press Conference in over two months so he cave to pressure and show up today.
Do those of you who continue to proclaim things that have decisively been proven false realize that insisting that lies are true only makes you look ignorant? Once something has been proven by several fact checkers to be false, it's really best to just let it go.
Conservative Rebellion
I would like to thank all Republicans for providing us with the tools and the materials. We broke into your shed ... tough! Payback is a bitch.
The problem is that Republicans have been plotting and planning their take-over of the media (FAUX Noise/Hate Radio), take-over of states from governors to judges to dog catchers, and even take-over of their own Party members. The FACTS in the opening post are difficult to get out because of the rightwing Echo Chamber and Cone of Silence.
And competitive races are difficult due to gerrymandering and now voter ID and other suppression tactics -- As well as the lock-step nature of the GOP/TP that includes ALEC and money from Wall Street, Big Oil, etc. that have crushed our constitutional democracy and *free press* that plays a watchdog role.
We need to start correcting this destruction. The first step is for voters to throw current Teapublicans out -- and where possible vote for female Dems who will stop the War on Women. Turn this nation blue and we can turn this nation around!
Apparently it's a felony if SRS assumes it is a felony. Nice try. They issue is Obama's insistence that his campaign never called Romney a felon. They did. That makes Obama a liar.
I can have my Attorney General continue a gun running program or start a new one that get boarder agents kill then hide the information and I'll use my power to help him hide that but I can't make that up.
I can start a health Insurance program that does nothing for health care except clog up the system, force you to join it and if you can't afford it I will pay fo it with money we don't have, tell you it will save you money in the long run, but no body read it so we really don't know yet what it will do, I'll say it's a penalty but it's really a tax, and I can't make that up.
I will allow congress and the house to illegally conduct insider trading and do nothing about it because the mane people involved are my friiends and supporters. I can't make that up.
I will illegal give an order the the law enforcement agencies to not uphold the immigration laws. I can make that up.
lol.....
Mr. Obama can make another media PHOTO-OP but cannot meet with his CABINET MEMBERS.
Nice bit of trickery. So let me get this straight. Obama removes $716 billion from Medicare to help fund Obamacare so it gets a better CBO score. BUT he claims he saves $716 billion by paying doctors less and forcing them to give free services. Somehow -through magic, I assume - taking $716b from Medicare and hoping to save that same $716b (face it - there is more than a little faith involved in that one) then they extend Medicare to 2024????
How about NOT raiding the $716b in the first place, institute some cost savings and really extend the life of Medicare? Oh....that would be Romney's plan.
Yeah but dont forget that Obama won by almost 10 million votes more than McCain.
10 million??
Please explain??
Dennis...
How does lowering the payments to doctors and hospitals not implement de-facto rationing. Right now Medicare pays 91 cents on the dollar and some doctors already turn away new Medicare patients. Lower that more and doctors will begin to drop Medicare patients. This is backdoor rationing. If the IPAB makes a decision to lower the payment on a procedure from 91 cents on the dollar to 50 cents, sure they aren't removing the benefit, but no doctor nor hospital will schedule that procedure due to the money they will lose. THIS IS RATIONING. You can not force doctors or hospitals to accept lower fees for payments without some push back on the number of procedures they will actually perform. Any SANE and INTELLIGENT person can recognize this. The fact that liberals keep stating no benefits will be lost is a laughable assertion. Doctors WILL STOP SEEING new Medicare patients due to not being paid and losing money for every patient they get. Sorry liberals, you can't change the very structure of supply and demand. You can't force doctors into slave labor. You will affect benefits by affecting the payments for procedure. You don't get to deny reality
By the way, did anyone see Obama deny that his campaign made the accusation that Romney is a felon... he is denying his campaign's own attacks. Hilarity.
Q22,
The $716B comes from cuts agreed to by the providers. It come from “over payments” to insurance companies that were built into the Medicare Advantage plan and unused by patients. It comes from estimated cuts in Waste, Fraud and Abuse. So when Mitt Romney says he will put the money back into Medicare then he is not for reducing WF&A, he against eliminating overpayments to insurance companies.
Romney’s plan, just announced, is to increase the eligible age to save it. So now people will have to continue working so they will continue to be covered by health insurance or to afford it if they don’t receive
it from their employer.
Whew...as long as the cuts in waste fraud and abuse are estimated. LOL
You still didn't answer how taking $716b out of Medicare and estimating $716b in savings prolongs the plan. Looks like the best case (and least likely) scenario would be a neutral exchange.
Mr. Smoke, meet Mrs. Mirror.
Why has Barry refused to address the 45% Medicare rule? He's been told about it for FOUR YEARS & every time he refuses to address the issue.
George Bush handled the issue when he was in office..... Why hasn't Obama?
Romney is a felon. Additionally a rather weak minded dunce. Republicans have gotten used to being able to pitch their lies without anyone calling them on their sh^t. Now, especially since Ryan has joined Him, Mittens has become a chronic whiner. Getting to sound much like a hog on a feed ration. If the electorate does begin to challenge the republicans on their "made up stuff" that party is shot to hell. Rove and Luntz will be out of anything to do too.
Where are your tax returns Mittens? How much have you actually stolen Mittens? Why are you afraid to show us any of your business records Mittens? You are a thief and a liar Romney!
Obama/Biden 2012!
Alexandr,
I’m not starting the “talking point” it was started acouple weeks ago … you just weren’t paying attention.
Clearly he is not holding those other returns on “principle”. He is hiding something that, even being legal, would disqualify him with the voters.
Paying zero taxes can be legal. Taking an amnesty deal to avoid prosecution is legal.
Q22,
Because the savings were over a trillion dollars and only $716B was used for the ACA – Got it.
2 things...
1. All this talk about Romney wanting to take medicare away from SENIORS... Doesn't the Romney plan have an age requirement that no one 55 years or older would see any change whatsoever? That means our seniors have nothing to worry about, and the can is not kicked down the road for LONG TERM solvency of the Medicare ideal.
2. Regarding tax returns addressed in post 1.53... Romney files his taxes in the United States of America, where anyone and everyone is subject to audit and investigation. If Romney had committed a felonious act, wouldn't that be a matter of public record - if the IRS had reason to file charges of corruption (for example), or theft, or cheating, etc...? Or are tax matters private, even if a felony is found to have been committed?
Personally, I believe Romney is a felon. The voter Fraud he perpetuated in Massachusetts is a criminal act.
I also think he is a LIAR. Stephanie Cutter had it exactly correct IF Romney filed false SEC documents, he committed a crime. OR him saying something COUNTER to those SEC filings is a lie.
He simply can't continue to have it both ways.
Either way,...he's a liar AND he's a criminal. Can the GOP pick 'em or what?
concernedone,
The question that everyone has to answer is – can those under 55 afford an additional $500 (in today's dollars) each month for each person on Medicare in addition to their current payments?
Will younger people be in a position to spend an additional $6000 a year for 20+ years?
IRS audits are not public record so who knows if he was audited. Beyond that if he took the amnesty deal or legally paid $0 taxes there is no fraud.
Holy @!$%# Clara, you are one Obama@!$%#tard and a half. The rest of you hate spewing Obama@!$%#tards should opt out of life at your earliest convenience.
Thanks ahead of time (thus saving the death panel the decision to have you killed.)
Except his admitted possession and use of cocaine is a felony.
On Medicare, the way I see it is the Obama plan will cut payments to providers so that organizations like the AARP can offer supplemental insurance to seniors to get the benefits, and to see the providers, they want. The Ryan plan offers premium support so that seniors will pay the difference to get the same level of benefits. It's just two paths to the same result. Seniors will pay more for medical benefits. What else can happen as Medicare has 37T in unfunded liabilities.
However, what happens when a senior requires emergency care at a hospital who does not take basic medicare, as could happen under the Obama plan. They have to treat them and the whole process of cost shifting occurs again.
You are the only one who thinks you are rational.
Now you are changing your story. You said:
Now it's really over a trillion? It's like you're making it up as you go.
All sides stretch the truth in campaign ads but this Romney clown flat out tells one lie after another another. And -- it's not working. Romney's numbers are slowly getting worse (even Rasmussen now has him trailing President Obama) and the President's numbers are slowly improving.
@Q22
You are totally clueless!
Obama, or the campaign, did not call Romney a felon.
His deputy campaign manager, Stephanie Cutter addressed the issue:
. . . as the Obama team sees it: “Either Mitt Romney, through his own words and his own signature, was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the SEC, which is a felony."
Stating that it would be a felony if someone did something is not calling them a felon. Just more whining from the Romney campaign.
On one hand Odumbo accuses republicans of "making stuff up", but defends his very own V.P. when he states that republicans "will put you back in chains" while speaking to a gathering of Blacks, less than a week ago. Really? I mean Really Mr. Odumbo?
Not to worry though, most Americans KNOW it's team Odumbo thats groveling down in the gutter. Only 12% of Americans polled feel Romney is running a negative campaign while 22% think Odumbo is. No supprise though as that's all Odumbo has, unless he wants to run on "Worst President in US History", however I don't think that would resonate with voters, but at least he'd be honest.
Because they are not "taking $716b out of Medicare" they're reducing planned future spending by $716 billion, mostly by by cutting waste and fraud, and not increasing spending as much as originally scheduled.
When you don't spend as much, your money lasts longer. The same principle holds true for Government programs, too.
BTW, the "Ryan plan" calls for the same $716 billion spending cuts after getting rid of the Affordable Care Act provisions that work to reduce waste and fraud. So what happens when they don't reduce waste and fraud, but cut spending anyway?
Republicans are offended because the truth is being told about them. If it wasn't true the GOP would be suing the Obama Campaign to remove the commercials.
Found this article which gives a much more detailed and complimentary look at the Ryan-Wyden plan for Medicare. It's virtually nothing like what is being espoused by the liberals on here. Of course, the best way to really know what's in the plan is to actually read it, which fewer and fewer people here are willing to do. I can't help but suspect that it's because it would reveal the lie in all the attacks.
h t t p://paulryan.house.gov/uploadedfiles/wydenryan.pdf
Here's the plan for anyone who wants to know the truth about it.
Obama whining about people making stuff up?! Now there is the black calling the kettle a pot. This *sshole in the White House lives in such a fantasy land he has no sense of reality. Obama the Clown should take his comedy act on the road. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
Talk about living in a fantasy land and making stuff up. Tooooo funnny Barry Just tooo funny!!!!
Hey all of you Romney's tax return is incomplete he has not given an attachment which shows his off shore accounts
So in essence he has given an incomplete Tax Return - you got it?
Is this a shell game?
When saying that the Medicare system is being fraudently charged , and that we will investigate this abuse,the President ,rightely in my oppinion,considers that it will save millions.
Obama is running a campaign full of lies trying to stay away from his records, because his economic plan is a failure. We had the worst economy after the great depression , but the worst recovery in history. 14 % in real unemployment numbers, almost 6 trillions of dollars more in debt, negative economic growth 1.5 % compare with population growth, it means we have a lower average income. Record number of welfare recipients, record number living below poverty, No confidence. There is no energy policy other than give money away to crony capitalist and Chinese industries to produce batteries for electric cars, Obama is against oil industry, coal industry, nuclear industry but favor the GE wind turbines made in China. Foreign policy is a disaster, helping radicals to take down tyrants , taking down an evil to replace for a worst evil, and throwing under the bus our best ally Israel, demanding to go beck to their 1972 borders. Divide and conquer is the way Obama can win this election, we are more divided than ever in history . Obama call Republican his enemies, attack Congress all the time because they don't do things on his way, attack Supreme courtall the time for the same reason, use the DOJ to pick and choose what laws to support, he prefer an absolutist kind of governmennt rule by Executive powers because he do not believe in Democracy.
Dennis, Columbus, Ohio
This is deceptive and incorrect. "Binding recommendations" is misinterpreted in this context.
This is the watered down version often "cut and pasted" from Think Progress' interpretation of PPACA.
Under previous and current law, changes to Medicare payment rates and program rules are recommended by MedPAC but require an act of Congress to take effect. The new system grants IPAB the authority to make changes to the Medicare program with the Congress ONLY being given the power to overrule the agency's decisions through a supermajority vote.
When IPAB merely submits a legislative proposal to Congress it automatically becomes law. Congress can only overrule the law with a supermajority vote (two-thirds approval) in both Houses and the presidents signature. The Board’s edicts can therefore become law without congressional action, approval, reasonable oversight or a presidential veto.
Citizens, or any advocacy groups, have no power to challenge IPAB in court.
This is why advocates simply refer to this as “Section 3403”. They know most people won’t investigate this section and what it mandates.
PPACA forbids Congress from repealing IPAB outside a 7 month period in the year 2017. Even if Congress legislates a change it is then required a three-fifths majority in both Houses. If Congress misses the 7 month repeal window PPACA prohibits Congress from ever altering that IPAB “proposal” (law) again.
IPAB is truly independent. Its unelected members will have effectively unrestrained power to impose taxes and ration care. This board will have power independent of Congress, independent of the president, independent of the judiciary and most importantly, independent of the will of the people.
IPAB, in essence, is an admission that the federal governments efforts to plan the health sector has failed.
More ominously, under the statute as written, if Congress fails to repeal IPAB or most of its power in 2017, then as of 2020 Congress will have no ability to block or amend the laws that IPAB writes.
Yes, once again, you read that right. IPAB will have unrestrained ability to write law it feels necessary without any oversight from any of the three branches of our CONSTITUTIONALLY limited government! The principles of “Balance of Powers” or those of “Checks and Balances” will no longer exist.
In essence IPAB will become a permanent, independent super-legislature with the Secretary of Health and Human Services as its executive. This should come as no surprise to anyone who has read the Health Care law. The Secretary of HHS will have sweeping new powers to control all health care in America. In PPACA there are more than 2,500 references to the “secretary”. There are over 700 instances where the secretary is instructed that she/he “shall do” something. There are also more than 200 cases where she/he “may” take some regulatory action if so chosen. On 139 occasions the law states that the “Secretary determines” something.
If this isn’t enough of an outrage, some of the direction reaches comedic heights. Here is one example:
"Each person to whom the Secretary provided information under subsection (d) shall report to the Secretary in such manner as the Secretary determines appropriate."
This massive bureaucracy will consume 1/5th, or more, of our GDP. 159 new bureaucracies, 47 new agencies, boards, and commissions, 68 new grant programs, 6,000 pages of already-issued regulations (and growing), 16,500 new IRS agents, who are needed just to enforce 20 new taxes should be a concern to everyone regardless of politics.
Wielding so much power, at the estimated costs, will make the Secretary of HHS only slightly less powerful than the president and vice-president.
We the People should not be so submissive to a monolithic government, it can only lead to more problems.
I’d take apart the rest of this post but I think this example of the real picture should make us all take pause before this massive transfer of unconstitutional power is fully implemented.
Romney/Ryan 2012 for real Americans
If any of you are still skeptical of how bureaucracy will affect you, I recommend you read about the "Liverpool Care Pathway".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161869/Top-doctors-chilling-claim-The-NHS-kills-130-000-elderly-patients-year.html
Q22, you need to study sentence construction. You quoted Obama spokesman as saying either Mitt Romney (parapharased for brevity) falsely signed Bain SEC filings claiming he was a principal which is a felony or ... (the part you left out follows which you conveniently left out while claiming first part was a lie) or he was active in Bain as he asserted by signing SEC filings for Bain as its CEO in 1999-2002.
Romney initially claimed he was not active in Bain in that period when Bain destroyed many American jobs. Then a Boston newspaper said " hey, wait a minute, he signed SEC filings as CEO which would be SECURITIES FRAUD if he was not CEO of BAIN. One or the other, which is it Mitt? Ball's in his court, either he played active role in Bain and helped kill all those American jobs or he misled investors by claiming he was still active.
It’s true that the Obamacare Medicare cuts don’t make any changes to the Medicare insurance benefit. But Obamacare’s Medicare cuts are bluntly structured, in ways that will harm seniors’ access to care.
Of the $716 billion in cuts, $415 billion come in the form of “updates to fee-for-service payment rates,” which reduces Medicare’s payments to doctors and hospitals. But what happens when you reduce payments to doctors? Doctors stop being willing to see Medicare patients, which is already the case. They are not taking on new medicare patients. And if you can’t actually get a doctor’s appointment, what does it really matter what your insurance plan covers on paper?
The next biggest chunk, $156 billion, is taken out of the market-oriented Medicare Advantage program. Medicare Advantage offers additional benefits to seniors. Take out those added benefits & Medicare Advantage plans are 9 percent cheaper than government-run plans. Medicare Advantage offers seniors higher-quality care at a lower cost than government-run Medicare. Obamacare should have sought to save money by expanding the program, instead of undermining it.
President Obama knows exactly what Obamacare's Medicare cuts will mean. In his own words, sharp cuts to the payments that Medicare makes to providers will “jeopardize … our seniors’ health care.” You can watch him explaining at length how reduced Medicare reimbursements will harm seniors in his 2010 State of the Union address.
But he signed the bill, just as the democrat congress passed the bill, WITHOUT READING IT!!!
Yes, the cut to Medicare is a cut, although it is a cut to spending increases. According to numerous posts on this vine that I have seen over the years, cutting increases in spending DOES NOT COUNT as a spending cut.
What's off about what you said is that the Ryan plan REPEALS Obamacare; it even states that doing so would save $1.8 trillion, although that is not true (unless he only cut the spending and kept the funding for it). So apparently Ryan is willing to repeal the ACA's programs to add more people to insurance rolls, he is draconian enough to keep the cuts.
Yes, they are un-elected officials; but they are HEALTHCARE EXPERTS. Frankly, at this point in time, I'd trust health experts MUCH MORE than I do with the current Congress. These people know the healthcare industry backwards and upside-down; they ought to be able to make the cuts. And technically, the IPAB would be very limited in its powers to reduce Medicare costs. Personally, I think it should be able to remove the fee-for-service payment mechanism and use a more merit-based reimbursement system to lower costs.
First of all, I'd like to see this survey. Secondly, I have to admit that this is one of the things I don't like about Obamacare; it doesn't deal with problems like a shortage of doctors and medical personnel. Plus I have a bad feeling that the cuts will reduce the number of doctors that accept Medicare.
Personally, I think that while Obamacare is a good start, it is far from perfect. I would prefer a single-payer insurance system, or Medicare for All. Then I would give Medicare the power to control hospitals and pay doctors, yet not nationalize every hospital. I would simply offer competition to the healthcare market by putting a public option for patients, but this public option would be in the form of state-run hospitals. For-profit and non-profit hospitals would have to compete with government-run hospitals, lowering costs and (hopefully) increasing care. I would also subsidize medical students' tuition and offer incentives for people to enter the medical profession, particularly the fields that are in need of more professionals. To pay for this, I would simply raise taxes from current law (in which the Bush tax rates are set to expire in 2013). The healthcare system would be modeled off of three nations: Canada, Great Britain, and France, which all have excellent systems that are both cost-effecting and efficient.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
Mr. President, as an IND voter who voted for you in 2009, it's my displeasure to admit that your 2012 Campaign is lightyears away from your 2008 Campaign. You've decided to campaign to your base rather than the American people, as you did in 2008. I'm extremely disapointed in your attitude when it comes to DEM Super PAC ads that are EXTREMELY negative. You've exhibited traits during this campaign that has shown me that you do not possess the Presidential qualities required to lead our nation.
We live in a great country. We possess various freedoms, one being the freedom of choice in our elections. As one extremely disappointed American voter, I can say without out any question in my mind that your performance and conduct has resulted in you losing my vote in 2012. At this point, I'm still unsure who will get my vote, but you sir do not have it.
clb-462357
You’re absolutely right. The worst thing is, none of this was known when this massive hoax of nationalizing health care was written. They’re suddenly realizing what a disaster this truly is. During the Health Care Summit at Blair House Ryan schooled Barrack Hussein for over 10 minutes on what his own plan would create. If you remember the look on his face it was as if he was on a cloud. The poor community organizer had NO idea what Ryan was talking about.
We’ve had over 45 years to get government health care fixed and it’s still a cluster %*@$. And it will be for another 45 years unless we rip it out of the hands of bureaucrats whose only goal is to garner votes. Medicine is not an exact science. Every single patient presents in different ways with similar diseases. That’s why we call it “practicing medicine”. The worst thing we can do is hand more of its control to 15 unelected bureaucrats serving 6 year terms. Does anyone think that all the appointees are going to have a non-partisan approach while everyone from our criminal politicians, lobbyists and citizens are screaming at them as the system creates more havoc? The “board” can’t have more than half represented by any health care related profession so at least 7, or more appointees, will constantly have to be educated why certain medical costs are going up or can be brought down.
To think another totally independent massive bureaucracy with basically no oversight, most likely managing over $3 trillion of our GDP, managing your and my health care will work, is ridiculous. Our current system is bleeding from waste, fraud, abuse and corruption. This will NOT be fixed by more government. I have even read some idiotic proposals where government completely takes it over under a Medicare type system and then place price controls on the providers and hospitals. Ask Jimmy Carter how his price controls worked on gas prices in 1978. We have a perfect example of how less government in health care works well with Bush’s Medicare Part-D.
Medicare Part D is the most cost-effective program within the federal health insurance programs and a good deal for taxpayers. Estimates by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicate that Part D's price to the public will come in at 46% less than initially estimated for the first decade.
In fact, Part D is saving the entire Medicare program money, according to a recent study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA). Improved access and adherence to medicine is saving $1,200 per year in hospital, nursing home and other costs for each senior who previously lacked prescription drug coverage, according to the study. This is saving the Medicare program an estimated $12 billion each year.
The competitive-based Medicare Part D program is working and should be used as a model for reforming other elements of federal health care programs. Medicare Part D enrollees are overwhelmingly satisfied with this program. A recent Medicare Today survey reported that 84 % of seniors are satisfied with the program.
Of course the Liberals continue to demonize it because its success is from free-market principles instead of their Keynesian nonsense and government intrusions. Our only hope of truly reforming health care is to repeal Obamacare and create a more basic market driven system such as what Ryan wants to do for both Medicare and Social Security.
Romney/Ryan 2012 for real Americans
Do you have any proof??? I'd sure like to see some evidence of this.
Actually, the IPAB's independence is actually an ASSET, not a liability. This prevents them from making ideologically-based decisions (such as turning Medicare into a voucher program); this allows the board members to use policies that will lower costs no matter how politically unpopular they are. And by the way, it's about damn time we start rationing care; we cannot afford the current healthcare system. No, rationing care does not imply "death panels;" we simply cannot afford to pay entirely for every surgery. We need to fix our healthcare system, and frankly I don't see HOW the private sector can fix it.
No; IPAB, in essence, is an admission that the private sector's involvement in healthcare has failed and that the government has to step in to keep costs from bankrupting Medicare.
Checks and balances will still exist; IPAB is not a newly-created branch of government. Theoretically, it is an extended wing of the legislature (i.e Congress), much like the supercommittee was. And technically, it is restricted in what it can do to reduce costs; I'd give them broader support.
I say again: this is an EXTENSION of the legislature, much like the supercommittee was. And no, the Secretary of Health will not be the "dictator" of said structure. You gotta stop being so constitutionally paranoid.
Hahahaha; if this "massive bureaucracy" would really consume 20% of the GDP, all private care providers would be nationalized and every hospital would be state-run. Individual mandates (which was a CONSERVATIVE idea) don't work that way; they were thought to have been a "free market" healthcare plan that emphasized individual responsibility rather than collective action.
Yes, if the Secretary of the HHS has authority over diplomacy, regulation, the broader tax code, and non-retirement social programs...
The Daily Mail is a right-wing media organization. And Romney/Ryan will end up leading to the BIGGEST redistribution of wealth in MODERN HISTORY. I thought you righties were against wealth redistribution????
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
Why don't you ask the Clintons? Homes in both Arkansas and New York? She runs for Senator from New York even while still owning a house in Little Rock? How about that admitted tax cheat Tim Geithner, the one who's in charge of the U.S. Treasury? He cheats the IRS, then Obama puts the weasel in charge of the henhouse. Democratic Representative Charles Wrangell, who is in charge of the House Ethics Committee, was censured for not reporting millions in income over many years from several rental units in NYC. Eric Holder lying his ass off about Fast & Furious, and when he finally has no more excuses, crawls behind Obama's skirts with yet another abuse of the Executive Orders clause...Obama himself lying about not gutting the Welfare Reform Act with a stroke of his pen, then accusing Romney of making it all up.
Lying is the only thing Democrats seem to know how to do, 'cause they sure as heck can't figure out that more and more government means less and less growth.
You really think Obamacare nationalizes healthcare??? How come I don't see any government insurance options??? How come all I see is an expansion of Medicaid and a requirement that everyone buy PRIVATE insurance???? Nationalization is putting something under government control; expanding Medicare to all Americans is nationalization; Obamacare is not.
Do you want to know why it's a cluster@!$%#??? Because every time healthcare reform has been put on the table, the Republicans (and insurers and major care providers) fight it. First it was single-payer, then the public option, and then finally the pure individual mandate. Every @!$%#ing time it's brought up Republicans fight it, even though the last time it happened (2010) Democrats used a REPUBLICAN idea to placate the righties, but we all know that didn't work. Private insurance DOES NOT WORK; they waste billions of dollars every year in waste and administrative costs every year.
Personally, considering the partisanship with the current Congress and the super-failure of the supercommittee, I'd gladly use a board of medical professionals to advise on cost-cutting.
Unless Medicare controls the healthcare market, it does not control $3 trillion of our GDP; the IPAB only focuses on MEDICARE. And do you really think that the private sector will fix healthcare??? Conservatives have been arguing that for decades, and guess what: it DOESN'T WORK. If it did, costs wouldn't be increasing by so much.
While I don't think price controls are the way to go, I would prefer a Medicare-for-All proposal that would enable all Americans to enjoy Medicare coverage.
Medicare Part D's record is pretty much muddled; it has lowered expenditures, yet it was discovered to have a net decrease in using generic drugs, as the program is very complex. Many beneficiaries are confused about the program itself. In addition, the program had no improvements in hospitalizations during it's first year, and dual eligibles' out-of-pocket expenses did not change. And then there is the "donut hole" issue.
I'm not sure about those results, but I'll repeat that Medicare Part D has a mixed record. Check JAMA for that.
It works moderately well, but I don't see it working for the entire program. I don't see how expanding the donut hole helps anyone except the providers. I would reforming the fee-for-service payment mechanism with fee-for-health payments and trying to put more incentives for preventative care and more disincentives for simply piling on as many operations on one person as possible, which is a common practice in the current system. I would also advocate the sanctioning of for-profit care providers in favor of non-profit institutions until they deal with the high costs and waste. In addition, I would allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices, which it cannot via Medicare Advantage (allowing drug providers to charge exorbitant prices.
Medicare Advantage is NOT a good model; some of its biggest flaws include the donut hole and the fact that the government cannot negotiate drug prices. The private markets DO NOT work in healthcare; the lack of info on what patients need (along with more complex factors) overrides whatever benefits the private sector offers. Not to mention the fact that private insurers spend much more money on administrative and marketing costs than Medicare. And turning Medicare into a voucher program will only save money by shifting costs to retirees. And what the hell does Social Security have to do with healthcare??? It's just a social insurance program; it has no connections to the healthcare market. The simplest way to save it is to readjust COLA and raise the cap on the payroll tax, although I would rather raise the payroll tax to 15%, eliminate the employer cap, and raise the employee cap to $500,000. And by the way, John Maynard Keynes considered his policy as "moderate conservative" as he was seeking to SAVE the freaking capitalist system instead of turning it into a command economy. And please show me how Keynesian economics has failed us.
Yeah, if by real Americans you mean financial elitists and right-wing radicals who are willing to cut trillions from social programs just to give the "almighty job creators" a @!$%#ing tax cut.
OBAMA BIDEN 2012
Here is a prime example of liberal denial, as provided by one of their own defenders. She denies that Obama's campaign called Romney a felon, and then quotes his DEPUTY CAMPAIGN MANAGER who accuses him of committing a felony. How is this NOT a quote from Obama's campaign when it comes from the #2 person in charge of getting him re-immaculated?
She then continues on in true Clintonian fashion, attempting to redefine"is" once again, by saying that accusing someone of committing a felony is not calling them a felon. In what universe, Ms/Mrs. Cutter? How can you honestly accuse someone of committing a crime, but think you are not calling them a criminal?
Only a liberal, especially one with the full backing and support of a sympathetic (emphasis on -pathetic) press corps, would have the gall to tell such a bald-faced lie to the American people and expect to get away with it.
Now Lets get the facts straight.
To all of your Romney/ Ryan supporters:
You claim that 55 and older will not have their medicare changed. That lie, wonder why? because both of them want to repeal ACA. ACA closes loopholes, pays for preventive care:
$724 – Average savings for seniors and people with disabilities on prescription drugs in 2012, thanks to closing of “donut hole” (January-April).
416,000 – Number of people who saved an average of $724.
$301.5 million – Total donut hole savings in 2012 (January-April).
5.1 million – People who benefited from shrinking of donut hole in 2010 and 2011.
$3.2 billion – Total savings for 2010 and 2011.
$3.5 billion – Total savings from March 2010 to April 2012.
Another benefit of the health care law is wellness care for seniors – staying healthy and preventing more debilitating illnesses. Many preventive benefits, including cancer screenings and smoking-cessation counseling, are provided at no cost. Here are some figures:
12.1 million – Medicare recipients who received at least one preventive service at no cost in 2012 (January-April).
856,000 – Of the 12.1 million recipients, the number who participated in an annual wellness visit.
26 million – People who received one or more preventive benefits at no cost in 2011.
Now when ACA get repealed and what happens to the seniors over 55? They pay more and less benefits. I am not even going to mention the voucher program for rest of us.
You mean just like the GOP lied about higher taxes for corporations preventing job creation? Oh I am sorry that is only half true. It would prevent the creating of jobs....... OVERSEAS! Ya know, just like they did after Bush gave them their last tax breaks?
It is absolute crap to think that corporations are going to create jobs here. Why should they start now?
Fighting over Obamacare has a different meaning to someone like me. I have a son who is ove the age of 18 . He also suffers fom Aplastic Anemia. It is a disease where he doesn't produce enough red blood cells for his blood to clot. He seems to be in remission right now but it still shows up in his records. Under Obamacare He cannot be denied for medical coverage due to his previous condition. For me and thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people, this is big stuff people. Here you are argueing about who said what. I am so grateful that my son can get insurance and that gives my whole family a measure of relief.
The President is SPOT ON!
Just when I think I have seen it all from the GNOP they never fail to surprise me! lol
I'm always happy to see the Democrats pushing back hard for a change!
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
I guess we need to get spot remover this November.
Please don't get mad, just toying with you. Get it?
"You can't just make stuff up." --- President Obama 2012
"Yes, we can!" --- GOP, quoting from President Obama 2008
Ya Harry Reid YOU can't just make things up!!!!!!
Did Obama get frustrated again and turn the podium over to Bill Clinton?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHCYT9rnCBk
Concern Citizen-856329
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
I guess we need to get spot remover this November
UnConcerned Citizen,
You needn't worry with the a 10% Congressional rating your precious T-bagger/RepubliCons will be removed. Since Republicans gained a majority in the House of Representatives, Congress has passed less than 2 percent of all bills into laws.
Removing them will give President Obama a better chance of moving this nation forward in his 2nd term.
4more4 44
Obama/Biden 2012
The republicans are lying about Obama gutting welfare reform.......pretty much says it all......they will lie to win.
Beverly in Chicago, is Feisty stuck in the toilet? She sent you to do her work?
Is it something I said to get you to react this way? I'm surprised again. Can you imagine Biden as President? Now I know I'm going to get myself in trouble for saying that but someone else did the comparison with Romney and Ryan.
Obama/Hillary I can see.
My suggestion for November is Romney/ Ryan..
@Eric: perhaps the GOP convention will be treated once again to the Queen of Mean leading everyone in a stirring chant of "Lie, Baby, Lie!" .... oh, wait - her invitation seems to have gotten lost in the mail this time around. She was probably too busy anyway - pitching another reality show with the family.
Beverly in Chicago..."Removing them will give President Obama a better chance of moving this nation forward in his 2nd term."
IF, and that is a BIG IF, Mr. Obama gets re-elected, he will NOT MOVE THIS NATION FORWARD. His LEAKED 2nd TERM AGENDA indicates he will dismantle America.
Just how far down on the Liberal Food Chain are you ?
The only thing that could dismantle America is more "trickle down" economics.......
Eric, have you read the analysis? It was said to be false because Obama removed the REPORTING requirement, not the work rules requirement. Sure this isn't the same, but it has the same effect. If you don't have to report you aren't following the requirement, what is to stop you from not following the requirement? As an aside, the Congressional Research Office has already stated that this signing statement was illegal.... 10 years ago. The Welfare Reform law explicitly removed any changes to the work rules including reporting requirements. But since the law states it can change rules in conveyance with other parts of the law, Obama is pretending it can change report requirements for work rules... completely against the bipartisan CRO.
Obama/Biden 2008 = "Hope and Change"
Obama/Biden 2012 = "Dope and Strange"
Now that Obama has a record to face, he can no longer SELL gullible U.S. Citizens on the vagueness of Hope and Change.
He now has to defend his record of massive debt increases when he said he said he would cut the deficits in half. He now has to defend the massive explosion of government growth under Obamacare at a time we cannot afford the government we already have in place. He now has to defend a refusal to enforse immigration laws.
Where's the budget Mr. President ?
Of course not Mr. President. Take the example of Adkins. He spoke from the heart when he called rape "legitimate"He not even gave it a second thought, until the rest of the GOP took away his funding.
Then he started sobbing!!! What an SOB
And he has the nerve to say that he is going to stay on the race.
Obama is nothing but a fiction writer! His administration is moving the US economy "forward" to a cliff!
If he gets re-elected we all doomed! Go Mitt Go!
With Republicans, lying is a necessary given because without lying they could never get elected.
Obama/Biden 2012
See book entitled, "How do you kill 11 million people?" by Andy Andrews. The answer is to LIE to your electors and country. So far, Obama has not necessarily told America the truth about anything because of the evidence of so many back room deals, like Obamacare. I had the Hope that Obama ran on even though I didn't vote for him. The book is a good read and it really is bipartisan because Andrews is neither Republican or Democrat.
Yup debates starting soon but you kool-aid drinking sheeple stay tuned to nbc so they can filter out the truth of what a failure President Odumbo is.
Dream on Concerned Citizen...theres a whole bunch of us that don't like your kind or your pick for 2012. So as John Stewart would say....GOOD LUCK MF!!!
Clearly, this is do as I say and not as I do. Comrade Obama and his regime have been lying the whole time. As soon as Dear Leader moves his mouth, he is lying. The problem is, this is a country of sheep. It only takes 5 minutes of reading these message boards to be extremely afraid of what this country is becoming. At least 70 percent of the people posting on this message board should not even vote, because their information comes from the morons on this site.
Save America and vote for the American,
Romney/Ryan 2012
What is the liberal take on why the Senate has not proposed or passed a budget? They always skirt that issue. Can someone here answer that?
This is an important difference between the two campaigns. While the super pacs on both sides say some pretty outlandish things nothing President Obama himself has said their proposals has been a lie. Mutt Rombot LIES every time he opens his mouth, not exactly presidential material. President Obama has had good things to say about Mutt and his wonder boy Ryan, on a personal level. Think they will ever reciprocate? Not a snowballs chance in hell.
1. All spending and revenue bills must originate in the House of Representatives. Senators could propose budget ideas to their House colleagues, just as any citizen could, but the actual budget bill writing starts in the House, not the Senate.
2. Republican filibustering in the Senate prevented passage of budget bills written when Democrats controlled the House, and when the Republicans controlled the House they kept adding irrelevant provisions to budget bills that Senate Democrats refused to accept. House Republicans could have passed a clean budget bill with no "poison pill" provisions, but didn't, they wanted no budget to pass so they could "blame Obama" and "blame Democrats".
@Jesse, here is the fact check.
"The directive said "HHS will only consider approving waivers relating to the work participation requirements that make changes intended to lead to more effective means of meeting the work goals of TANF." The department said if a test project does not result in improved employment for welfare recipients, the waiver could be revoked."
http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2012/aug/13/bob-mcdonnell/bob-mcdonnell-says-obama-unwinding-welfare-work-re/
Romney is lying.......
Good lord! If the GOP/TP can't lie, how will they ever talk again? The poor dears will be forever mute!
And that will be fine with most Americans, too!
With cerebral observations like that one it is no wonder you are unemployed.
JoAnna - You used to make a tiny bit of sense - quite a while ago - even through I reject your politics totally. Lately, you just yak up useless comments which make no sense and have no relation to the issues. You know that if someone on the left made a comment like Aiken did or if Obama refused to release his tax returns, you're head would explode with excitement and outrage. You don't have to publicly condemn the actions of crazy Republicans but quit chiming in with arguments that make no sense.
@CM thanks for the answer and not blasting me like some would do
What exactly were those "poison pill provisions" that were so terrible that a budget couldn't get passed?
That is patently false. The Budget Act enables a budget resolution to be passed with a simple majority. There was no filibustering involved with that.
h t t p://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/jack-lews-misleading-claim-about-the-senates-failure-to-pass-a-budget-resolution/2012/02/12/gIQAs11z8Q_blog.html?wprss=fact-checker
Heavy Weight Champ
From the Article above:
God Bless You, President Obama.
This President has taken everything INCLUDING the kitchen sink thrown at him over the last 3 1/2 years and is still fighting like a Heavy Weight Champ!
Democrats have never before been been more United, and now we have the Eisenhower/Reagan Republicans and Independents behind us in our fight to keep our Democracy and the Middle Class.
Two months left to go, so look up the voting requirements in your County and State so we can keep the Senate, Take back the House of Representatives, and Re-elect one of the best Presidents this Great Country has had in modern history.
Salud.
Yeah, You can't just make stuff up. That's Obama's job. Ask his drooling minions like Feisty.
Romney/Ryan are just following in the Koch/GOP/Tea Party traditions of taking your weakness and accuse your opponent of it. Just another use of the "Big Lie", repeat it often enough by the RWNJ Echo Chamber of talk radio and Faux News and the followers will follow in lockstep.
Take a sound track from any interview or speech and cut it up into a sound bite that sounds like what you want to lie about and repeat ad nauseum and when called on the lie keep repeating it anyway.
Take your opponents strengths and "Swift Boat" them. (It's interesting that it's a right wing dirty trick has risen to the level of common parlance.) Claim outrageous and completely unsubstantiated lies (McCain's Black Love Child) and release them through the Echo Chamber and then claim to know nothing about it.
Their hero, Karl Rove, is synonymous with Lies, innuendo and dirty tricks. That won't keep them from using him, and his PAC, from smearing mud on everything in their name.
While exaggerations have always been in the arsenal of politicians, with the occasional lie slipped in. The Koch/GOP/Tea Party have refined the "Big Lie" into an art form that can only be described as pornographic.
Feisty wasn't the first post? The world must be changing. For the better.... Maybe there is hope.
Feisty (Jen Psaki) is too busy being a paid Obama troll, she is now scouring to find the next fabricated story so the media can drone on for days. That's how Obama wins elections, by a high school popularity contest......didn't you know?
The lastest issue of NEWSWEEK....you can't make that stuff up.... Best cover ever!!!
Now Lets get the facts straight.
To all of your Romney/ Ryan supporters:
You claim that 55 and older will not have their medicare changed. That lie, wonder why? because both of them want to repeal ACA. ACA closes loopholes, pays for preventive care:
$724 – Average savings for seniors and people with disabilities on prescription drugs in 2012, thanks to closing of “donut hole” (January-April).
416,000 – Number of people who saved an average of $724.
$301.5 million – Total donut hole savings in 2012 (January-April).
5.1 million – People who benefited from shrinking of donut hole in 2010 and 2011.
$3.2 billion – Total savings for 2010 and 2011.
$3.5 billion – Total savings from March 2010 to April 2012.
Another benefit of the health care law is wellness care for seniors – staying healthy and preventing more debilitating illnesses. Many preventive benefits, including cancer screenings and smoking-cessation counseling, are provided at no cost. Here are some figures:
12.1 million – Medicare recipients who received at least one preventive service at no cost in 2012 (January-April).
856,000 – Of the 12.1 million recipients, the number who participated in an annual wellness visit.
26 million – People who received one or more preventive benefits at no cost in 2011.
Now when ACA get repealed and what happens to the seniors over 55? They pay more and less benefits. I am not even going to mention the voucher program for rest of us.
Correct Mr. President, you can't just make stuff up, unfortunately for the republicans, what they don't make up is just as bad. I don't want to see what mitt paid in taxes, I want to make sure he really lived in MA when he voted there (voter fraud - oh the outrage), I know it never hurts me and my working/middle class family when the rich pay more in taxes, I know that trickle down never works, I know that younger workers want the same medicare and social security benefits they have paid into just like I do, and I know there is no such thing as a legitimate rape.
Union Baby -
I agree on all counts - and would like to add that despite what Paul Ryan and his buddy Todd Akin think, ALL rape is forcible.
Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!
Romney/Ryan: Medicare? We Can
FixEnd That!Trickle down may not work but taxing the rich and the companies that do well so much that they are looking to move their operations to other countries does not help anyone here in America either. You tax the rich too much and they will just move away. Besides do the poor ever see any of those taxes? I say no. The goverment just waists it.
You mean like Harry Reid?
Obama is the gift that keeps giving. He accuses the GOP of the very thing he and his little minions are doing. Priceless!!
And yet in a White House press release, the administration stated: "[Reid] speaks for himself". Would you like to try again? I'm still waiting for your explanation on why voting for a guy relying on thirty years of failed economic principles is a good idea, by the way.
Sure.
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/07/obama-team-romney-committed-a-felony-or-lied-to-voters-128757.html
Or is Mr. Bauer (Obama's campaign's counsel) now just "speaking for himself."?
What about Ms. Cutter (Obama's Deputy campaign manager)? Speaking for herself also?
Yes, Reid speaks for himself. BUT IT HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN A LIE. Mittens SAID he paid 13% taxes. But there is NO PROOF of that either. Mitt Romney can be lying just as easily as Reid.
You CAN'T call Reid a liar. He may be telling the truth. MITTENS! WHERE ARE THE TAX RETURNS??????
Reid is a liar until he reveals his source.
Except he never said he was a felon. He said had he committed that act, it's a felony. You aren't a felon if you are not convicted of a felony. Do I really need to explain common sense to you JoAnnaSmith? I'm still waiting on your justification for Romney's economics policies by the way. Maybe you just "don't want to talk about that"?
So sorry Xabre. You have lost the debate. Obama and his team of misfits are indeed making stuff up about Romney. What do they do next, start saying if Romney hit his wife that would make him a wife beater? Evidence? Don't need any of that apparently, just like what Reid, Bauer, and Cutter all lack. I guess if you have one conversation about Romney being a possible criminal, you could have that one too. It's clear you are just another sheep being led by Obama, can't think, no perspective. You want to be that way, fine. Just another follower of The One.
You're dismissed.
Excuse me Ms. JoAnnaSmith1 but Cutter did not say Romney was a felon. Cutter made an "either or" statement. I won't bother you with the details because, A) you already know them and B) the details never matter to you anyway.
xabre, every fact check said that the comments on Romney committing a felony were a lie. Yet the left continues to perpetuate that belief, go figure.
Camp, either or statements force one into either camp. Romney said he didn't lie, ergo he's a felon according to the Obama campaign, they called him a felon. Sorry. This is called a false dichotomy.
Similar to how you lost the debate on Romney's economic policies? I'm waiting. And campdog is correct. They never called him a 'felon'. They merely said perpetrating said act was a felony, and that either Mitt Romney was an executive when he claims he was not, or that his signature was a crime. They left the door open for Mitt to decide what he was.
JAS!, in a debate you cannot dismiss the opposing side. It is tantamount to throwing in the towel. As I was not a party of this scrum, you lose by default.
Accusing someone of an action that is considered a felony does not per se make that person a felon. It is why we have courts, to adjudicate one way or the other. In the court of public opinion, I would suggest that it is Romney who is losing this fight and not Reid. Ah, the court of public opinion where elections are won or lost.
The "rich"have been moving away for a while now. Mitt Romney even said "President Obama does not know when to outsource jobs"
He said in an interview with FOX. So, why should we elect a President that is REALLY ANTIPATRIOTIC, AND TAKES JOBS OVERSEAS? All that he wants to do is become President, so he can fix all his relatives financially for ever, at the expense of the tax payers.
The Repubs have this bad habit of pulling stuff out their asses and when this stuff get thrown back their way; they cry foul....somebody needs to stick a corndog up one of these punks....
Personally I am done listening and mute all political ads on tv. Let's vote today and then everybody will shut up and then we can enjoy our plain annoying commercial ads again. Oh wait, I mute them, too.
I have to disagree with Obama on this one. From what I've seen, his campaign has been slinging more hard-core mud than the Romney campaign, and Romney has been quicker to come out against lies from surrogates than Obama. I don't fault either campaign for what surrogates (including super PAC's) say initially, but I do fault them if they don't publicly refute their comments.
Neither group is without fault - but from what I've seen I think the Obama campaign has done more "word twisting" than Romney's campaign.
Gee Ron, what was this article about? How many times was the commercial on the cancer victim actually on the air? The promo commercial never made it to the airwaves, and will not. The actions by the Repugs. demonstrate that they can subvert controversy before it hits the general public. Only the promo was released and hit the Internet and news, before it was broadcast as a political ad., unlike many of Sir Robme's actual campaign that produced the "welfare" commercial, and the "70 billion taken away from Medicare and the citizens", those commercials had large play on All forms of News, as political ads..... Can you see the differance? One is not being played and payed for, the others are still being played and payed for....
Can you people even see how infantile your arguments are? Grow up. My 7 year old niece could come up with a more sustainable argument. The problem is that very rarely will a politician "lie." They'll make a statement that is sufficiently vague to be interpreted multiple ways, and then the other side will pounce all over it and claim the other side has just "lied." Romney's group did it with the President's "you didn't build that" statement, and President Obama's team has done the exact same thing with Romney's "I'm not concerned about the very poor" statement. Context is a beautiful thing...too bad most of the posters on this board don't esteem it very highly.
Mr. President you hit the nail on the head and we are waiting for the debates these clowns will be taken to the cleaners once and for all. These idiot think they can just delete posts and spew they're bull@!$%# well guess what their day of reconing is coming and we cant wait to see them licking the floor.
Republicans think everyone is as dumb as they are well fact is Democrats are better educated and more in tune with reality than a Republican will ever be take it to them Mr. President
I hope your post isn't indicative of a typical Democrat's education. Grammar and punctuation notwithstanding, if you were really in tune with reality, you'd be far less complimentary toward President Obama. Try doing some actual research instead of swallowing everything you're fed without a second thought.
I guess I'm a real knuckle dragger because I recently read how agents with the IRS were told to ignore federal returns on Mexican migrant workers who claimed 30 or more dependents and were getting thousands and thousands of dollars back in tax returns. I'm sure they weren't in any big rush to pour over the thousands of pages of Romney's returns.
With the Mittster's track record for flip-flopping you can say he always/never is wright/wrong about anything he says. Any negative or baseless claim against Robot Man can be countered with a quote proving him right and you wrong. Even his one-liner platform pledges say nothing about how or what he would really do if elected. The kicker is the statement he made, in private but 'accidently' recorded by a reporter, that he would have a post-inaguration party for his major contributors where he would take their requests (orders) to act on.
Instead of speculation about the other guy, I want the President to talk about what he knows best, himself. I want him to review the economic glories of his administration and in the name of hope and change, to tell the American people what his administration has in store for America.
I want the President to come clean on the promises he made on the economy. The President said that the stimulus "did its job" but according to a report issued by the President's own administration, unemployment has been worse than if the stimulus had never been passed. What did we get from those shovel ready jobs that the stimulus paid for?
I want the President to discus the trade deficit that just keeps increasing. The federal government keeps trying to stimulate the economy by flooding it with cash but it all leaks our because such a high percentage of the goods and services that we buy come from foreign countries. The current administration has had no success in improving the situation.
The President went on and on as to how bad deficit spending was. Without conditions of any kind to include any act of congress, the President vowed to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. Well, this is the end of his first term. To keep the President's promise the federal deficit for this year, 2012, cannot exceed 229.27 billion dollars yet the President's own White House is predicting that the deficit will exceed 1.2 trillion dollars. The President also promised transparency. I want the President to explain what magic he is going to perform between now and the end of the fiscal year in order to keep his promise to the American people.
I estimate that the money the federal government is borrowing today will end up costing the tax payers more than 9 times the amount borrowed to repay over the next 170 years. That is just my estimate. I want the President to present a plan for repaying all of the money that it owes. The tax payers have a right to know how much all this federal borrowing is going to end up costing them.
The President needs to be reminded of some words of wisdom that were spoken back in March of 2006. The words are as true today as they were then.
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies.
And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.
Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities. Instead,interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans–a debt tax that Washington doesn’t want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.
Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
~ Senator B. H. Obama, March 2006
The President also said that if he could not fix the economy within three years that he did not deserve a second term. Wel,l it is not fixed.
"You can't just make stuff up, but I can."
President Obama cir. 2012
I would like to see Romney make firm statements on his policy, with details.
To-date, all he has offered is "just trust me" and "we'll work on the details after the election".
That is not good enough for this job interview.
Without the stimulus we would be in a depression. Of course the stimulus helped to create 4 million jobs. President Obama has a low spending rate. Most of the spending are the wars and medicare part D. The trade deficit is lower than it has been in years.
The big reason stuff isn't fixed is the Republican have completely obstructed his agenda.
Nice try.
Ramenie is looking very desperate. And his party members just keep on giving and giving...
SactoJD, you have a great point and it is one that I have seen written down many times now and I am looking forward to seeing his plans because the devil is in the details.....but to be intellectually fair Obama in 2008 never gave any specifics--he only spoke of hope and change and I was fooled and bought into it and voted for him the first time around. Even Obama 2012 has not provided any details for what he plans in the next 4 years. If you are going to hold Romney to the standard then you must hold Obama to the same otherwise you are being partisan and cheating yourself out of an objective view and if you can't do that then reason and logic has no place in your arguments. Of course, if you are democrat through and through for reasons outside of reason and logic then you can let emotion guide you and I won't fault you for that.
Another one that I see in almost every comment section is "Mittster needs to release his taxes" yet nobody in congress that actually writes the tax code and legislates releases their taxes. There is no law requiring the candidates to release their taxes. President Obama's college transcripts are still sealed but those that care about the Mittster's taxes don't seem to care about his college records or Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi's or Dodd or Frank's taxes. Why the double standard?
Owebama's Amerika, 2016, the movie
The problem is that Republicans have been plotting and planning their take-over of the media (FAUX Noise/Hate Radio), take-over of states from governors to judges to dog catchers, and even take-over of their own Party members. The FACTS are difficult to get out because of the rightwing Echo Chamber and Cone of Silence.
And competitive races are difficult due to gerrymandering and now voter ID and other suppression tactics -- As well as the lock-step nature of the GOP/TP that includes ALEC and money from Wall Street, Big Oil, etc. that have crushed our constitutional democracy and *free press* that plays a watchdog role.
We need to start correcting this destruction. The first step is for voters to throw current Teapublicans out -- and where possible vote for female Dems who will stop the War on Women. Turn this nation blue and we can turn this nation around!
MuttonChops -- That's BS that the president lacks detailed plans -- You know like the Jobs Act, like ACA, heck even the Big Deal was more detailed and made more sense mathematically than anything the Teapublicans, or worse Romney/Ryan have owned up to. The Dems plan for Medicare is Medicare, and ACA has extended Medicare for as much as 10 more years.
Romney/Ryan have no real solutions other than to just repeal everything. That's not a plan, that's a cop out. They can't explain how to balance the budget because their "plans" are so pathetic.
Will, you go on and on about the debt but you either knowingly or unknowingly foget that the best way to get the debt under control is by having the economy performing as well as it can as soon as possible. The President cannot by himself get the economy where it needs to be when the sole not-so-secret republican agenda every step of the way is to make him fail. And you can't just make stuff up. Obama never ever said he would have the economy fixed in 3 years. He said in his first term (4 years). That corrected, given where President Bush & his republican trick down economics & wars left the economy, Obama has absolutely fixed the economy. When he took office, the country was losing over 700K jobs a MONTH! Under this president, the economy has now come back from the great recession and we're seeing consistent positive growth in GDP and jobs. It may not be back to humming along like it was during the last democratic presidency but we're not going back to those days by reverting to the trick down policies that got us into the recession in the first place -- hello!
On the Politico story that they're disagreements inside the preisdent's campaign, they need to understand that this is a different campaign than 2008. Back then, the majority of the country had tremendous fatigue from republican incompetency. Plus the McCain campaign and the republican outside groups didn't fight as hard as they will this time around, in part because they really didn't think that a (half) black man could be elected president. This time around they know better and they will use all the dirty tricks they've used in the past to get back to power. Taking the old "high road" fancied by previous democratic presidential candidates will not work in this environment. We can't afford to have another Gore/Kerry type of campaign because we all know what happened to those guys. When you go against a determined desperate republican machine, you have to fight fire with fire. And that's why the President is so far holding his own because he's on offense or punching back just as hard as he gets punched. You retreat from that approach dems and no doubt you'll lose the election.
Why don't you go stimulate the economy instead of yourself for a change and see it a dozen times?
Don't forget to buy plenty of *popcorn*... lol
Ironic.... rolling eyes
Job1
Thanks Job1, Nate Silver is the man... :-)
According to the CBO:
The CBO figures released Tuesday [11/22/2011] estimate that the stimulus package raised the gross domestic product this past quarter by 0.3 percent-1.9 percent.
You know what? I trust the CBO more than I trust any Republican!
Typical Obama, do as I say not as I do.
Mittins just keeps stepping in it. It sucks to be him.
Feisty(fishy): @ 4.10 How many times do you stimulate yourself every day?
It took two years for president Reagan with a democrat mayority congress to fix the mess Carter made. Bama don kno what doin!
Romney is a classic sociopath... this from the website. Read the examples.. It's EXACTLY what Romney demonstrates. He matches or 15 of the questions to determine if someone is a sociopath. That's why most people feel that there just isn't something right about Romney.
TruePatriot
You, mi amigo, ROCK!
Salud
you have to be talking about Barry - thinks he is above the law - talk about a pack of lies thats all this admin is about
More examples from the following website - Romney has classic Sociopath characteristics
vodahost.com/web-hosting-sociopath-test-sociopath-definition.html/
Deceitful and manipulative
TomasGrande -- Muchas gracias, and likewise mi amigo, your posts rock!
You can't make this up, rightwingers who defend Akin and such quackery as women being able to prevent pregnancy by willing their bodies to do so from the trauma of rape.
This is another example of anti-science Flat Earth Society idiocy and their predisposition for conspiracy theory and pseudo-science BS! But most appalling of all is when elected officials like Michele Bachmann or Allen West or John Bolton are permitted to run around spewing their ignorance.
If Romney/Ryan is elected, the rest of the clowns get elected with them. Vote NO to Romney/Ryan and Republican quackery!
WinG - You can't POSSIBILITY compare the issues Reagan faced with Obama....Apples and oranges my friend....Oh by the way, both sides weren't as "radical" then and Reagan admitted in the end that he had to raise taxes in an effort to fix the economy.
"You can't make Stuff up"......Cutter and Reid and Axelrod and Gibbs and Canary (close enough on last name mentioned...maybe should be Parrot).
My oh my......
Yeah, Romney-Ryan to take back America from the radicals.
AndyM, Thanks for reading my post and commenting.
1. You said "The best way to get the debt under control is by having the economy performing as well as it can as soon as possible." I agree, but that did not happen under Obama's administration. The President's solution was the stimulus which he called a spending bill and to increase federal budgets. Injecting money into the economy did not fix the problem under the Bush administration and it has not worked under the Obama administration. If the stimulus had worked then we would not be having this discussion. The federal government would be running surpluses, not huge deficits. We should be happy that cap and trade did not pass. Without conditions to include any action of congress, the President vowed to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term and that just is not happening.
2. Secret Republican agenda. The Republicans were virtually out of the picture for the first two years of the Obama administration. Obama's reaching across the isle was with middle finger extended, The Republicans were told that they lost the election so Obama was going to do things his way. Apparently the Obama administration was unable to convince the public that things were going well under their leadership or house leadership would not have changed. It is no secret that the Republicans and the Democrats like each other, just not very much and each has been trying to take the country back from the other. Opposition is a part of the American political landscape.
3. 3 years or 4 years, the economy is still not fixed. Even Obama is now saying he is going to need another 4 years. If Obama has absolutely fixed the economy then it should no longer be an issue. Asking for a second stimulus is evidence that the economy is anything but fixed.
4. The same report issued by the Obama administration that predicted that unemployment would not rise above 8% if the stimulus were passed, also predicted that without the stimulus unemployment would eventually fall. According to that report unemployment is slightly worse than if no stimulus were passed.
5. The last time you say the economy was "Humming" the Republicans controlled congress.
EEngineer, Thank you for reading my post and commenting. I am not quoting any Republican person, document, or report. I down loaded the report issued by the Obama administration that was used to convince congress that the stimulus would keep unemployment below 8%. According to the information in that report, unemployment has been a little worse than if the stimulus had never been passed.
"You can't just make stuff up". Really? Then why are you?
The accusation that he's a felon. The fact that his SEC filings were legally complete and accurate.
The accusation that he's a tax cheat. The fact that if they truthfully wanted his tax information, it can be found in the recent FEC filings and the tax returns that he released when campaigning for governor.
The accusation that he was responsible for a woman's death. The fact that the man lost his job 2 years after Romney left Bain. The wife lost her insurance when she left her job. She got and died from cancer 7 years after Romney left Bain, 5 years after the man lost his job from the company that Bain acquired.
The defense that the Obama campaign was unaware and had nothing to do with the commercial. The fact that there is a recording of a conference call that was hosted by Stephanie Cutter in which this subject was discussed.
The accusation that Romney doesn't care. The fact that he gave his complete support when his wife was suffering with cancer and MS. The fact that using animal assisted therapy created jobs.
The commercial that grandma is going to be thrown off the cliff. The fact that the plan presented for discussion doesn't affect anyone over 55, and won't take effect for another 10 years.
The carpetbagger that makes racially insulting accusations about puttin' us all back in chains. There is absolutely nothing to substantiate this.
The accusation that Romney-Ryan has no economic plan. But yet the plan that they supposedly don't have is giving tax breaks to the 1%. The recently released tax liability that was presented shows incomes under $100k would pay 10% and over $100k would pay 25%. Nothing was mentioned about the type of income, only the total amount.
Again, the accusation that Romney-Ryan has no plan. But the Obama administration does not have an economic plan that it is willing to present to the American public. So they cannot compare what Obama is going to do as opposed to what Romney proposes to do in order to improve our economy.
The denial of $716B being taken from Medicare to support ObamaCare. Documentation confirms the amount. Anecdotal evidence shows that while premiums have not decreased, care, services and health products have.
The accusation of Romney having secret accounts in the Caymen Islands, etc. First, since everyone knows about them (they're listed in the FEC filings and his tax returns), they're not secret. And he has the accounts for the same reasons why Ms. Wasserman and other politicians have their accounts in the Caymens.
According to the Heritage Foundation, the pool reports, biographies, foreign policies within other countries have had details, histories and other edits are being made through the administration (propaganda, censorship, changing/editing/omitting facts, etc) before being released to the press.
"Don't believe half of what you read, and nothing what you hear". The reason why politicians pat the American people on the head and tell them that the government knows better is because Americans are too lazy to be informed voters. Politicians can say and take pretty much anything they want and Americans say "OK".
1pov
Romney will have 6 tax rates and they can be found at bankrate.com which compares Obamas plan as well.
I like the part of no capital gains tax for earners under $200,000 which will give a boost for middle class to build a nest egg or two.
The capital gains will be at the curent 15% for earners over $200,000.
there is a summary of Romney's health care at Kaiser Health News- Article, Romney on Health care.
"Will Haas" said:
"The President also said that if he could not fix the economy within three years that he did not deserve a second term. Wel,l it is not fixed."
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Did Obama make the economy worse? Not according to most statistics
Excerpts:
...When receiving Donald Trump's endorsement, Romney said:
“He’s frequently telling us that he did not cause the recession, and that’s true. But he made it worse.”
However, most of the economic numbers don't support Romney's claim.
For example, the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office found that the economic stimulus Obama signed into law added -- in the 4th quarter of 2009 -- between 1 million and 2 million employed workers and boosted the GDP between 1.5% to 3.5% higher than it would have been without the stimulus.
In addition, a more recent CBO study -- for the second quarter of 2011 -- found that the stimulus raised real GDP between 0.8% and 2.5% and lowered the unemployment rate between 0.5 and 1.6 percentage points, compared with what would have occurred without it.
And another analysis, by economists Alan Blinder and Mark Zandi, estimated that the stimulus raised 2010 real GDP by 3.4%, held the unemployment rate about 1.5 percentage points lower, and added nearly 2.7 jobs to U.S. payrolls.
Looking solely at quarterly Gross Domestic Product, it's gone from -6.7% in the first quarter of 2009 and -0.7% in the second quarter of '09, to positive territory ever since -- including 2.8% the past quarter.
The one metric that might support Romney's claim that Obama made the economy worse is the unemployment rate. When Obama took office, the unemployment rate stood at 7.8%, and it was 8.3% in his first full month as president.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/02/03/10312358-did-obama-make-the-economy-worse-not-according-to-most-statistics
1pov
The Us treasury ant the GAO have sent representatives to the Cayman,s from 2007-2009 and met with the government and studied the financial markets in detail.
The finding was that Americans hold their money there due to cayman,s stability and compliance with international standards,It,s business friendly regulatory environment,and Cayman insolvency laws which provide protection for creditors and investors.
Smart American,s hold their assets there for asset protection as the U.S. government and banking cannot be trusted.
If people with 401K and other critical investment,s had their money held in the Cayman,s before the summer of 2008,it would not have been lost.
You are right there is a lot of reporting to the IRS from assets held in the Cayman,s by FATCA(Foreign account tax compliance act),TIEA(Tax information Exchange Agreement), and by OPIC(overseas private investment corp.
You are also right that many Democrats and Republicans have offshore accounts besause they are not stupid as assets in the Caymen,s are protected from fraud and abuse.
Many Americans do not study the financial markets of the Cayman,s so they do not know how efficient and stable the system is. so it is easy for a government official to say something negative on the issue and peolpe will believe as they do not have a clue on the unknown.
'You can't just make stuff up'
...Finally, our President is saying what I've been accusing the GOP Tea Party of, all along.
John 1960608,
Your information about the Caymans and other tax havens is dated by a few years.
The amended treaty, which must be ratified by the U.S. Senate, makes it far easier for U.S. authorities to identify suspected tax evaders.
Mitt Romney stands to have his name pulled from a list of wealthy potentials, per the new treaty with Switzerland.
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US and Europe in accord on tax evasion
By Vanessa Houlder in London and Shahien Nasiripour in Washington
Excerpts:
The US and Europe’s five biggest economies unveiled fresh details of their coordinated push to crack down on tax evasion on Thursday, in a move that promises to ease the burden on financial institutions that have been enlisted to gather information.
The announcement paves the way for the US to exchange information on account holders who are citizens of the UK, Italy, Spain, France and Germany with tax authorities in those countries. In turn, those authorities are to share information on US account holders with the Internal Revenue Service, the US tax authority.
Tim Geithner, US Treasury secretary, said the agreement marks an “important milestone in our joint efforts to combat offshore tax evasion and make our tax systems more efficient and fair.”
The new agreement aims to overcome the objections raised by foreign governments to the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, a US law passed in 2010 that targets tax dodgers using foreign accounts. Authorities said they hope the compromise – information sharing between governments rather than between institutions and foreign governments – will minimise compliance costs and help alleviate the concerns of financial institutions.
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The latest agreements on tackling international evasion come as policy makers on both sides of the Atlantic are facing public pressure to crack down on tax dodging, particularly by the wealthy. The European Commission said last month that “tens of billions of euros remain offshore, often unreported and untaxed, reducing national tax revenues”.
Politicians are also facing pressure from campaign groups, such as Tax Justice Network, which this week claimed that between $21tn and $32tn of financial assets were held offshore – more than twice most previous estimates.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/2f953b9a-d741-11e1-a378-00144feabdc0.html#axzz24A1raCcb
"Global Business Leaders See Obama As Stronger On Economy":
http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/002564.htm
Instead of speculation about the other guy, I want the President to talk about what he knows best, himself. I want him to review the economic glories of his administration and in the name of hope and change, to tell the American people what his administration has in store for America.
I want the President to come clean on the promises he made on the economy. The President said that the stimulus "did its job" but according to a report issued by the President's own administration, unemployment has been worse than if the stimulus had never been passed. What did we get from those shovel ready jobs that the stimulus paid for?
I want the President to discus the trade deficit that just keeps increasing. The federal government keeps trying to stimulate the economy by flooding it with cash but it all leaks our because such a high percentage of the goods and services that we buy come from foreign countries. The current administration has had no success in improving the situation.
The President went on and on as to how bad deficit spending was. Without conditions of any kind to include any act of congress, the President vowed to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. Well, this is the end of his first term. To keep the President's promise the federal deficit for this year, 2012, cannot exceed 229.27 billion dollars yet the President's own White House is predicting that the deficit will exceed 1.2 trillion dollars. The President also promised transparency. I want the President to explain what magic he is going to perform between now and the end of the fiscal year in order to keep his promise to the American people.
I estimate that the money the federal government is borrowing today will end up costing the tax payers more than 9 times the amount borrowed to repay over the next 170 years. That is just my estimate. I want the President to present a plan for repaying all of the money that it owes. The tax payers have a right to know how much all this federal borrowing is going to end up costing them.
The President needs to be reminded of some words of wisdom that were spoken back in March of 2006. The words are as true today as they were then.
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies.
And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.
Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities. Instead,interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans–a debt tax that Washington doesn’t want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.
Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
~ Senator B. H. Obama, March 2006
The President also said that if he could not fix the economy within three years that he did not deserve a second term. Well, it is not fixed. If it wer fixed then it would not be an issue.
No you can't. But you do. Romney was responsible for the death of a man's wife due to cancer. Romney didn't pay any taxes the past 10 years. Romney committed a felony when he filed with the SEC. Hey Barry, how about unsealing your college records? How come we can't see your college writings and college entrance applications to Occidental, Columbia, or Harvard? What are you spending millions of dollars hiding? Can someone explain why he's hiding this information?
making stuff up? isn't this what Obama has been doing right along?
Sure, I can explain it. It's none of your business, that's why he isn't releasing it. Just like Romney's tax returns are nobody else's business. Why do you people insist on pointing at endless nothings to avoid talking about the things that matter?
Man, Obama loses more credibility with each passing day. Does he honestly think that voters think he is not running a negative campaign? If he is, it is not the campaign he is running here in the US. Maybe he is running another campaign on Mars or in China. But the one he and his surrogates are running here has been the most divisive, lie laden, vitriolic campaigns in modern history.Typical Obama though, says one thing and does the exact opposite.
And you can be damn sure he came out and made that statement today because he is losing ground because of the negative campaign and refusal to address the real issues.
KingK -
I have a couple of questions:
1) Of the pro-Obama ads that you have actually seen (not just read about), which one(s) did you find "lie laden" and why?
2) Of the pro-Obama ads that you have actually seen (not just read about), which one was the most divisive?
I have only seen pro-Obama ads that present the facts about Bain Capital, Romney's tax rates and shelters, and Romney's tax plan. I haven't seen the "divisive" or "lie laden" ones.
Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!
Romney/Ryan: Medicare? We Can
FixEnd That!KingK, of course you would see it that way from out in right-field. I am sick of the GOP SuperPAC ads that continue to run even after every major fact-checker says they are a lie. This WingNut ad campaign hasn't stopped after 3 years of endless bombardment. Maybe FUX News viewers are numb to being lied and misled to, entertainment such as it is.
TNSEVOL:
All of the Democrat adds I have seen are factual.
All of the republicon adds I have seen on MSNBC have been full of lies.
KingK - except President Obama is gaining ground. And, every day Romney/Ryan open their mouths, he gains more.
Obama/Biden 2012
TNS - When America finally realizes Obama's GM stock value is half of what we paid for it, and that GM is indeed in big financial trouble, I think we already know his response..."I didn't build that!"
Typical nonsense rant from King. ROMNEY IS A FAILURE
Mr Obama says he fundamentally disagrees with the Romney plan.
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with trade being both free and fair.
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with reforming medicare to save it from going bankrupt in 12 years
Mr Obama fundamentally disagrees with balancing the budget.
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with stopping deficit spending.
Mr Obama fundamentally disagrees with eliminating the national debt, but proposed a budget that grows it to $25 TRILLION
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with the principle that federal government should be limited
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with enforcing existing laws
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with allowing States to assist the federal government in enforcing our laws and attacks States when they try to help out..
Mr Obama fundamentally disagrees with securing our borders.
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with adopting immigration laws that bring the best and brightest to the US, but prefers open unchecked borders.
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with opening up our energy resources, while expanding our energy resources into other areas.
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with the US taking a leadership role in the world, but prefers that we a back seat to those seeking to take advantage of US.
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with having a strong military.
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with creating an atmosphere conducive to the growth of small businesses.
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with extending the middle class tax rates beyond one year (only enough to get him past the election)
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with not shouldering our children and grandchildren with the burden of paying for massive debts and deficits.
Mr. Obama fundamentally disagrees with keeping us financially independent of countries like China.
Mr Obama fundamentally disagrees with making difficult choices now so that we don't have to face disastrous consequences later.
Mr Obama says we need to cut entitlements, but when anyone proposes a plan to do so he fundamentally disagrees.
Etc...etc..
Now that we know what Mr. Obama means by" fundamental change", we fundamentally disagree with Mr. Obama being President any longer.
Apparently KingK and the rest of the Republican posters can't answer a few simple questions.
NOT ONE pro-Obama ad has taken Romney's words out of context - or questioned his religion or patriotism.
Can Republicans say the same about their candidate? I didn't think so.
'I Wish This President Would Learn How To Be An American' - John Sununu, Romney surrogate.
KingK
Now that we know what Mr. Obama means by" fundamental change", we fundamentally disagree with Mr. Obama being President any longer.
Republican leaders, birhters, T-baggers, right wing nut jobs, and FOX viewers have a fundamental disagreement with actuality.
"y'all going to be back in chains' VP Biden to a largely black audience.
Barack Obama centering his attack campaign on meaningless tax returns and failing to allow voters to ask him questions on the campaign trail. Pro Obama ads insinuating that Mr. Romney caused the death of former steel pant worker. Pro Obama ad showing an elderly woman in a well chair being pushed over a cliff by Paul Ryan. Obama telling people that Romney's medicare plan does away with medicare and that seniors will not have medicare under Romney. Obama and the gang going around saying that Romney is going to raise middle class taxes, when it is Mr. Obama that refuses to agree to a permanent extension of existing middle class tax rates. just to give a few examples.
TNsevol,
The President is quoting from the Ryan 2010 budget which was changed in 2011. He changed the rate of capital gains and Romney has stated he wants to eliminate capital gains tax for those making under $250,000 a year.
http://factcheck.org/2012/08/outdated-attacks-on-ryan/
His ad about Bain Capital outsourcing was shown to be wrong by factcheck.org
http://factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-outsourcer-overreach/
They have run ads accusing Romney of taking advantage of tax avoidance scheme for his personal gain,
http://factcheck.org/2012/08/obamas-boss-baloney/
That is three examples
We are not talking about attack ads. Of course both sides will use them. We are talking about lies. The tax returns? They can prove if Mitt Romney is a FELON or not. They seem relevant. An elderly woman being pushed off a cliff by Paul Ryan? ACCURATE! Have you READ HIS BUDGET? Hitting her with an AX may be a better representation. And Romney has NO PLAN so any statement is conjecture but he said it is like Ryan's except different in every way. But if it is LIKE RYAN'S, it destroys medicare as we know it, so THAT is accurate as well. Then the middle class tax part is TRUE TOO. If you read RYAN'S PLAN (the ONLY GOP PLAN OUT THERE) and look at the CBO analysis IT RAISES MIDDLE CLASS TAXES by doing away with ALL THE DEDUCTIONS THE MIDDLE CLASS USE.
The problem YOU have, KingK is that YOU are for the GOP and THEY are about to give it to you in the tail.
WHY IN GOD'S NAME ARE YOU VOTING FOR SOMEONE THAT IS GIVING IT TO YOU IN THE TAIL???
It is true that the President is talking about Ryan's original plan, not the revised one. However, as Obama said, Ryan refuses to submit his current plan to the CBO or any other non-partisan committee for review. So we really have no idea what Ryan's new plan would do. Politifact rated Obama's statement that Ryan's medicare plan "could raise future retirees' costs more than $6,000" Mostly True.
"The Obama ad would have been more accurate if it had specified that it was referring to a previous Ryan plan for Medicare rather than the current one. We simply don’t have enough details to know how much extra money seniors might have to pay under the current Ryan plan. Still, the Obama campaign gave itself some wiggle room by saying that the plan "could" raise out-of-pocket costs by more than $6,000. On balance, we rate the statement Mostly True."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/17/barack-obama/barack-obama-ad-says-paul-ryans-medicare-plan-coul/
SRS thinks that if you simply repeat the lies they somehow become true. SRS is just as bad as the Obama campaign, Must be nice to be associated with liars from Washington DC, right SRS
Wrong! President Obama wants to protect the environment from people like the Koch Brothers, that are in the business of FOSSIL FUELS. They deny Global warming. You insist in DENYING THE OBVIOUS. Look around you and see how much you will be paying for food, due to the drought....Is that just OUR IMAGINATION AND A HOAX????
Wrong! President Obama disagress with removing all the barriers that prevent bankers to really rip us off. Look at your bank statement, and see how many HIDDEN FEES you are already paying..Do you want MORE??? Because that is what Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are getting ready TO DO.
Wrong! We have more military capacity ALREADY THAT many other countries combined. A plane costs a billion dollars. Do you rather see your taxes going to pay a plane, instead of helping the old and disabled? I guess you do, BUT NOT ME. I AM TIRED OF unprovoked wars. Mitt ROrmney wants to go to war with Iran. He is ready to send YOUR CHILDREN there, not his sons. No thanks..
All your arguments are FALSE, but I do not have the desire to open your eyes, because you probably will continue in DENIAL
Jerry-
If you follow your own links you will see that the fact-checkers are hung up on technicalities.
None of the examples you listed show any misrepresentation of Romneys policies or practices, and none of them take his words out of context.
The disputes are over which Ryan budget Obama is talking about, or whether Romney was technically running the company he owned and was CEO of.
No smears, no lies, no dirt - just facts and arguable conclusions.
That wasn't some old lady in a wheel chair. It was Nancy Pelosi!
SRS--I didn't vote for someone who was going to "give it to me in the tail" in 2008 and I got Obama anyway.
rgmoon
Cut the"both sides do it" crap. Both sides do NOT do it. Romney has run three ads approved by him promoting the race-baiting lie that Obama is cutting the work requirements from welfare. The ad about the guy who was fired from a steel company run into the ground by Bain did mention his wife's death, but it didn't claim Romney "killed" his wife. That just another lie made up by Republicans to excuse their other lies.
Remember "transparency" means you can't see it... in Obama's case, it means we can't see what he's doing....... or done... or is going to do....
....but he's good at voting PRESENT
And that is, of course, an outright lie, exposed by PolitiFact:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/07/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obamas-plan-abandons-tenet/
If the GOP couldn't lie, they would be forever mute. Not that it would be a bad thing, you understand...
Obama's been making stuff up since he opened his piehole.....
Nice Presidential record, typical of a guy from crooked Illinois politics.
Romney's misquotes and tax cheating. Failure
Any proof of this alleged tax cheating, or do you just babble ? If Romney's tax returns are within U.S. tax code, there is no cheating. Can you back up and PROVE your claim ??????? I will await proof, but I will not hold my breath ...... because you can't do it !
As opposed to the LIES that Paul Ryan is constantly telling. He "denied" asking for stimulus money, until people SHOWED HIM HIS LETTERS, signed personally by him, telling how "wonderful" the stimulus was, and how much it was going to help the people of Wisconsin.
What do you call that? "Sweet coating the pie hole?"'
Laker Steve, are you a millionaire? If not you, you should close your pie hole. Because unless you part of the 1%, Misfit Mitt and Cryin Ryan is going to scr$w you like the rest of us. It's pitiful that ahtred of our President makes people so stupid. And even you're arguments don't make sens. And talking about crooked politics, what do you think Misfit Mitt did in Mass. I will stop here, I think I would make more sense talking to my wall.
Laker Steve, So Obama hasn't done anything huh? Ok, I read this earlier and I told the poster that I would post his reply everytime one of you guys says he hasn't done anything. BTW, can you show us 10 things you personally have done?
The
partial Record of President Barack H. Obama:
He Returned
The Executive Branch To Fiscal Responsibility After the Bush Debacle
1. Within his
first week, he signed an Executive Order ordering an audit of government
contracts, and combating waste and abuse.
Why, He should
have Repuested Congress to do that (Someting Congress is susposed to do
anyway).
2. Created the
post of Chief Performance Officer, whose job it is to make operations more
efficient to save the federal government money.
Doesn't this
do the same job as #1? Job reduncey is not a good way to save money.
3. On his
first full day, he froze White House salaries. Congrates on that, but why not
all public sector workers.
4. He
appointed the first Federal Chief Information Officer to oversee federal IT
spending.
Again that
makes 3 doing the same job #1 listed above.
5. He
committed to phasing out unnecessary and outdated weapons systems. To that end,
he also signed the Democratic-sponsored Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act,
which attempted to put a stop to waste, fraud and abuse in the defense
procurement and contracting system.
Another person
in charge of #1. That makes 4 in charge of this so far.
6. Through an
executive order, he created the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility
and Reform. Another persond doing #1, He as more people trying to save money
then what the govenment saves by hireing all these groups to try to save money.
Not to mention they have no Constitutional power to do anything with cutting
spending Besides the President didn't listen to the last board he appointed to
cut the national debt.
He Improved
the Economy, Preventing a Bush Depression
7. Pushed
through and signed the Democratic-sponsored American Recovery and Reinvestment
Act, otherwise known as “the stimulus package.” The bill passed, even though
only three Republicans voted for it. In a major departure from the previous
administration, he launched recovery.gov, a website that allows taxpayers to
track spending from the Act.
Actually the
stimulas program started under the Democrats during the Bush administration. It
was passed and signed after Bush left office, by Obama. That money went to the
largest banks, to help with home forclosures (something that the democrats
didn't bother to put into the bill. (they placed no guide lines on how the
money was to be spent.) So banks kept their money, and the rest was given to GM
and Soylendra, (ie. wasted) since we will not see that money back anytime soon.
8. The
Bush-led Great Recession was costing the economy nearly 800,000 jobs per month
by the time President Obama took office. But by the end of his first year, the
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act created and sustained 2.1 million jobs
and stimulated the economyby 3.5%.
The Democrat
Controlled Congress created the law leading to the housing bubble that caused
the recession. While the privite sector created more then 2 million jobs, the
total loss of jobs were over 4 million from Feb 9th 09 to the end of the year
So it was a net loss of 2 million jobs. Obama likes to just count the Shovel
Ready jobs, and doesn't count the real numbers.
9. Not only
did he completed the massive TARP financial and banking rescue plan, he also
leaned on the banks and others, and recovered virtually all of the bail-out
money.
The banks
didn't want the restrictions Obama wanted to put on them so they returned the
money. appearently they really didn't need to tarp money if they could pay it
back so fast.
10. He created
the Making Home Affordable home refinancing plan.
How weill has
hat done so far? Again no real value to any homeowner in trouble.
11. Oversaw
the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than Bush did in eight years.
12. Along with
Democrats, and almost no Republicans, implemented an auto industry rescue plan,
and saved as many as 1 million jobs. Many are of the opinion that he saved the
entire auto industry, and even the economy of the entire Midwest. This resulted
in GM returning to its place as the top car company in the world. Willard
Romney, on the other hand, advocated for the entire industry to go belly-up.
The US
taxpayer will be paying for this for decades. It would have cost the government
nothing to let GM and Chrysler go bankrupt. Both would have come out better and
very few jobs would have been lost. So those 1 million so called saved jobs
cost the taxpayer about $100K for each worker. Hopfully thier stock will double
so the US Government can get out of the car business. Funny thing is Chrysler
has proven to be much more profitible under Fiat, then GM under the
Government/Unions.
13. Doubled
funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership, which is designed to
improve manufacturing efficiency.
This is money
that should have been cut, as businesses already do this costing the taxpayers
nothing. Waste.
14. Signed the
Democratic-sponsored Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act giving the federal
government more tools to investigate and prosecute fraud in every corner of the
financial system, and create a bipartisan Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission
to investigate the financial fraud that led to the economic meltdown.
John Corzine,
takes 1 billion dollars from investors and no charges, and goes free. This
program is a total waste of taxpayer money in order to pay lawyers to do
nothing.
15. Signed the
Democratic-sponsored Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure
(CARD) Act, which was designed to to protect consumers from unfair and
deceptive credit card practices.
This just
caused the banks to cancel cards for deadbeats, and allowed them to charge more
intrust ,and fees to cardmembers, with good credit. How is this better then 5
years ago?
16. Increased
infrastructure spending after years of neglect.
On What? I now
see 5 workers watching one instead of the old days when 4 workers watched 1
work. Besides that is what your gas tax (about 80cents a gallion.) .
17. Signed the
Democratic-sponsored and passed Helping Families Save Their Homes Act,
expanding on the Making Home Affordable Program to help millions of Americans
avoid preventable foreclosures. The bill also provided $2.2 billion to help
combat homelessness, and to stabilize the housing market.
Another total
waste of money. Millions were not saved the number is actually much smaller
less then 100K. So the banks got paid Do the math even using your figures that
is about $2K a home that is at most 2 home payments, so you extend the person
for 2 monthis before they loose their home, only the bank wins here (sound
familure?) instead of the 2.2 million they got for not exteding the loans.
18. Through
the Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009, he and
Congressional Democrats provided tax credits to first-time home buyers, which
helped the U.S. housing market recovery.
This only took
sales from other month. I boosted sales of home, but didn't stop home prices
from falling. The people with money bought homes and the Taxpayer paid.
19. Initiated
a $15 billion plan designed to encourage increased lending to small businesses.
To big banks
that hasn't helped small businesses. Luckly small local banks steped in to help
small businesses.
20. Created
business.gov, which allows for online collaboration between small businesses
and experts re managing a business. (The program has since merged with
SBA.gov.)
This was
starte decades ago. No real change with with.
21. Played a
lead role in getting the G-20 Summit to commit to a $1.1 trillion deal to
combat the global financial crisis.
Of which Euro
group gave to Greece, Italy, and Spain.
22. Took steps
to improve minority access to capital.
Actually Reid
and Pelosi did this back in 07. Which caused banks to lend money to people who
could not afforde to pay it back. Lending should be only on the basis of
ability to pay back the loan. Nothing else, Gender, race, have nothing to do
with it.
23. Signed an
Executive Order instructing federal agencies to review all federal regulations
and remove any unnecessary and/or burdensome regulations from the books.
Still waiting
for this one. It should have been easy to remove at least 2/3rds of them.
Instead he added more.
24. Through
the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, saved at least 300,000 education
jobs, such as teachers, principals, librarians, and counselors that would have
otherwise been lost.
What a joke.
he hired the above groups for a year, then required the states to pick up the
costs of continued hiring them. The states couldn't afford them, so they got
laid off. If he was smart he would havve done this a year before the election,
to look good.
25. Dismantled
the Minerals Management Service, thereby cutting ties between energy companies
and the government.
I am surpised
the EPA didn't take this up.
26. Along with
Congressional Democrats, provided funding to states and the Department of
Homeland Security to save thousands of police and firefighter jobs from being
cut during the recession.
Again the same
as #24. A tempory feel good gesture, but with no real substance. Was done just
to keep the Unions happy.
27. Used
recovered TARP money to fund programs at local housing finance agencies in
California, Florida, Nevada, Arizona and Michigan.
Most states
rejected the money because of the costs to the states.
28. Crafted an
Executive order establishing the President’s Advisory Council on Financial
Capability to assist in financial education for all Americans.
Education
about financial education from the worst example on the planet? What are they
going to teach them? How to run up 100K in debt in 2 years sumular to the
government. kind of like a bank robber teaching students how to open up bank
accounts and withdrawing money.
He Fostered
Greater Transparency and Better Government, After the Excesses of the Bush
Years
This area
is such a joke very few comments were made.
29. Signed an
order banning gifts from lobbyists to anyone in the Executive Branch.
30. Signed an
order banning anyone from working in an agency they had lobbied in previous
years, and put strict limits on lobbyists’ access to the White House.
31. Held the
first-ever first online town hall from the White House, and took questions from
the public.
He hasn't
talked to the white house press in over 5 monthis and only once this year, Yet
can go to over 200 fundraisers.
32. Became the
first to stream every White House event, live.
33.
Established a central portal for Americans to find service opportunities.
34. Provided
the first voluntary disclosure of the White House Visitors Log in history.
35. Issued an
Executive Order on Presidential Records, which restored the 30-day time frame
for former presidents to review records, and eliminated the right for the vice
president or family members of former presidents to do the reviews. Provides
the public with greater access to historic White House documents, and severely
curtails the ability to use executive privilege to shield them.
So much for
this one, Right Eric Holder?
36. Improved
aspects of the Freedom of Information Act, and issued new guidelines to make
FOIA more open and transparent when processing FOIA requests.
No real change
here (Fast and Furious) even the congress and still not get information, what
chance does a common citizen have.
Wall Street
Reforms and Consumer Protection
37. Ordered 65
executives who took bailout money to cut their own pay until they paid back all
bailout money.
Of what they
quickly did. The bailout money was quickly paid back. Sounds good, but no
substance.
38. Along with
Congressional Democrats, pushed through and got passed Dodd-Frank, one of the
largest and most comprehensive Wall Street reforms since the Great Depression.
This bill
alone killed more jobs, and since the large banks helped write it. It placed
huge restrictions on the smaller regional and local banks. Allowing the largest
banks to buyout smaller ones and get evern larger. Banks win again.
39. Through
Dodd-Frank legislation, created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
That is did,
but it has no power.
40. Through
Dodd-Frank, the Executive Branch fashioned rules that reduce the influence of
speculators in the oil market.
I am so glad
about that, except it didn't work. They still drive up and down the price of
oil. If you haven't noticed Oil is still high. It did nothing,
41. Fashioned
rules so that banks can no longer use YOUR money to invest in high-risk
financial instruments that work against their own customers' interests.
I think
someone should tell the banks about this.
42. Supported
the concept of allowing stockholders to vote on executive compensation.
Another joke.
Stockholders have been doing this for over a century.
43. Endorsed
and supported the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act of 2009 that would close
offshore tax avoidance loopholes.
Again this was
already the law, duplication. But it sounds good.
44. Negotiated
a deal with Swiss banks that now permits the US government to gain access to
the records of criminals and tax evaders.
The US has to
prove criminal actions. question how do you prove someone is avioding taxes on
a account you do not know exists? Maybe he uses his cristal ball.
45. Signed the
American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act, which closed many of the loopholes
that allowed companies to send jobs overseas, and avoid paying US taxes by
moving money offshore.
Another joke.
GE, Tesla, Solor companies moved jobs overseas after taking the money. So not
only did we loose the jobs, We Paid them to move the jobs out of the country.
How stupid is that. This is a Plus?
46.
Established a Consumer Protection Financial Bureau designed to protect
consumers from financial sector excesses.
Who protects
the business from the consumer criminal?
47. Oversaw
and then signed a Democratic bill constituting the most sweeping food safety
legislation since the Great Depression.
Yss, so now
you too can buy a home in a hole, and get the government to pay to get you a
new home in a hole should yours get flooded.
48. Through
the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act, extended the False Claims Act to combat
fraud by companies and individuals usingmoney from the TARP and Stimulus
programs.
So many have
done this already with no prosicution that it has become another joke.
He Ushered
Through Many Changes That Enhanced Civil Rights and Anti-Discrimination
He gives
blacks special treatment for school funs, he gives illegal students work
permits, he gives special treatment to special people and companies.
49. Along with
Congressional Democrats, advocated for and signed the Matthew Shepard
and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, which made it a federal crime
to assault anyone based on his or her sexual orientation or gender identity.
Hate Crime.
Another Joke. People Kill others. You kill someone it makes no differance how
you feel about their gender, race, social standing, It is wrong to kill anyone,
nothing else matters, especially to the victim. I am sure the victim doesn't
feel any better or worse, for the person killed them. What a brainless act.
50. Pushed
through, signed and demanded the Pentagon enact a repeal of the discriminatory
“Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” policy that forced soldiers to lie in order to be
eligible to fight for their country, and put our troops at risk by
disqualifying many qualified soldiers from helping.
51. Extended
benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees.
52. Appointed
more openly gay officials than anyone in history.
53. Appointed
first openly transgender Cabinet Official in History.
So what, when
I hire a person, I want the best qualified, eveythng else is garbage. Bush had
more minoritys than even Obama, so what. how good is the person does their job.
54. Changed
HUD rules to prohibit gender and sexual orientation-based discrimination in
housing bit.ly/9RxEnP
55. Changed
his mind and publicly expressed support for the right to enter into a same-sex
marriage.
Please don't
use the Tern "Marriage" Civil Union is much better, since Marriage is
used by Religion to express the joining of a Man and a Woman as expressed in
the religious teaching through out the Centuries.
56. Issued a
Presidential Memorandum reaffirming the rights of gay couples to make medical
decisions for each other.
This should be
under Civil Unions.
57. Wrote and
signed an Executive Order establishing a White House Council on Women and Girls
to ensure that all Cabinet and Cabinet-level agencies evaluate the effect of
their policies and programs on women and families.
How sexist is
that? What a waste of money. they should do that for every person.
58. Signed the
Democratic-sponsored Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which restored basic
protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers. This was
after the GOP blocked the bill in 2007. Only 5 Republican Senators voted for
the bill.
So, say a male
worker with the company for 15 years, makes 40K doing accounting work, they
hire an new female with no experance get paid the same amount of money to
start? I just hope it does the same for a female who works for a company for 25
years get paid the same as a new maie worker, doing the same job. In my
business you get pay increases for experiance, I guess that no longer holds
true. Now wonder business is not hireing. When a new hire must be paid the same
as your most experanced employee.
59. Expanded
funding for the Violence Against Women Act.
Forget the
Gender, Go after the crime, After all Crime is not concerned about gender.
60. Under his
guidance, National Labor Relations Board issued final rules that require all
employers to prominently post employees' rights where all employees or
prospective employees can see it, including websites and intranets, beginning
November 2011.
This repeat of
a law that is over 30 years old. Redundency.
61. Advocated
that United Nations adopt a policy supporting gay rights worldwide.
62. Issued an
order requiring hospitals to allow visitation by same-sex couples.
reut.rs/llNJek
63. Appointed
Kareem Dale as the first ever Special Assistant to the President for Disability
Policy.
64. Helped
Democrats in Congress pass and signed the Civil Rights History Act.
He Made
Major Improvements in Foreign Relations and American Status Around the World
I wish they
were for the good, instead of for the worse.
65. Visited
more countries and met with more world leaders than any previous president
during his first six months in office.
And cirtized
the country for what it did. Without this country, the world would be a totally
different place today, Thank God, the world is a better place today, because of
this country.
66. As he
promised, he gave a speech at a major Islamic forum in Cairo early in his
administration.
67. Helped to
restore America's reputation around the world as a global leader that does the
"right thing" in world affairs, at least according to the rest of the
world.
What a sack of
sh@t. Just about ever country in the world has a lower impression of this
country.
68.
Re-established and reinforced our partnership with NATO and other allies on
strategic international issues.
He sold out
Poland, and central Europe to Russia. After Obama broke an agreement with them.
69. Closed a
number of secret detention facilities.
Of the public
ones, Getmo and others still exist.
70. Improved
relations with Middle East countries by appointing special envoys.
We have lost
influnance in Egypt, Syria, Libia, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Afganistan, Lebinon,
Saudi aribia, Jorden, Turkey, and now are not considered friendly toward us. We
have better relations wth 0 middle east countries, we now have worse relations
with at lest 10 of them. How is that better. Name one that is better?
71. Pushed for
military to emphasize devlopment of foreign language skills.
72. Offered
$400 million to the people living in Gaza, called on both Israel and the
Palestinians to stop inciting violence.
I am sure that
money was well spend on rockets and making human bombs.
73. Refused to
give Israel the green light to attack Iran over their possible nuclear program,
and thus avoid another war that Republicans wanted.
Isrial will do
what ever it feels is nessary to prevent Iran from getting a nuclar bomb. It is
sad that it now gives Iran the idea that we will not do anythng to prevent it.
Uncertianty causes war, a strong coountry is not attacked, but if there is a
question thn war will result, just as Iraq attacked Kwait ,because Saddam
didn't beleive we would react. Iran has to know we will react, thus prevent
war. The same story happed in Libia. Lean from history. Obama has not leaned
this yet.
74. Worked
with Democratic Congress to make donations to Haiti tax deductible in 2009.
New flash,
Giving to charities that helped out in Haiti have always be deductible for more
then 60 years.
75.
Established a new U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue.
76. Issued
Executive Order blocking interference and helping to stabilize Somalia.
77.
Established new, more reasonable policies in our relations with Cuba, such as
allowing Cuban-Americans to visit their families and send money to support
them.
78. Ordered
the closure of the prison at Guantanamo Bay. It was Republicans (and,
unfortunately, progressive Democrats) who prevented follow through.
79. Ordered a
review of our detention and interrogation policy, and prohibited the use of
torture, or what Bush called "enhanced interrogation." He ordered
interrogators to limit their actions to the Army Field manual.
80. Ordered
all secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere to be closed.
81. Released
the Bush torture memos.
82. On his
second day in office, he signed a detailed Executive Order that banned torture,
reversed all Bush torture policies, and put the United States in compliance
with the Geneva Convention.
83. In response
to the emerging "Arab Spring," he created a Rapid Response fund, to
assist emerging democracies with foreign aid, debt relief, technical assistance
and investment packages in order to show that the United States stands with
them.
84. Passed the
Iran Sanctions Act, to prevent war, and to encourage Iran to give up their
nuclear program.
85. Ended the
Iraq War.
86. Authorized
and oversaw a secret mission by SEAL Team Six to rescue two hostages held by
Somali pirates.
He Took a
More Realistic Approach to “Defense”
87. Created a
comprehensive new strategy for dealing with the international nuclear threat.
88. Authorized
a $1.4 billion reduction in Star Wars program in 2010.
89. Restarted
nuclear nonproliferation talks and built up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
to where they had been before Bush.
90. Signed and
pushed through ratification a new SALT Treaty.
91. Negotiated
and signed a new START Treaty that will lst until at least 2021.
92. Through
the Defense Authorization Act, reversed the Bush Administration and committed
to no permanent military bases in Iraq.
93. Developed
first comprehensive strategy with regard to Afghanistan and Pakistan designed
to facilitate the defeat of al Qaeda and the withdrawal of most troops, as well
as the rebuilding of Afghanistan.
94. Returned
our focus to Afghanistan, stabilized the country, and began the process of
withdrawing our troops from the country.
95. Negotiated
a deal with Afghan govenment, to withdraw troops and military support, while assisting
in rebuilding and modernizing of the country.
96. Took steps
to severely weaken al Qaeda and limited their ability to terrorize the world.
97. Negotiated
and signed a nuclear nonproliferation treaty with India.
98. Took
decisive action to use NATO to limit the slaughter of innocents in Libya, so
that the Libyan people could topple a despotic government and determine their
own fate.
His
Administration Treated Soldiers and Veterans with Respect That Was Missing
Previously
99. Along with
Congressional Democrats, not only reauthorized families of fallen soldiers to
be able to visit when the body arrives at Dover AFB, but also provided funding
for it. Ended the media blackout on coverage of the return of fallen soldiers.
100. Funded
Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with an extra $1.4 billion to improve
veterans’ services.
101. Provided
active combat troops with better body armor.
102. Created
Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record program for military personnel, in order
to improve the quality of their medical care.
103. Put an
end to the Bush-era stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan
beyond their enlistment date. (personal note: my son will be in harm’s way for
six fewer months with Obama as president, so you know I love this one.)
104. Along
with Congressional Democrats, supported and signed Veterans Health Care Budget
Reform and Transparency Act, which made more money available to enable better
medical care for veterans.
105. Along
with Congressional Democrats, ushered through largest spending increase in 30
years for Department of Veterans Affairs, with money to go to improved medical
facilities, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing
homes and extended care facilities.
106. Created
the Green Vet Initiative, which provided special funding to the Labor
Department to provide veterans with training in green jobs.
107. Initiated
and signed a recruitment and employment plan to get more veterans into
government jobs.
108. Oversaw a
$4.6 billion expansion of the Veterans Administration budget to pay for more
mental health professionals.
109. Signed
the Military Spouses Residency Relief Act, which ensures that spouses of
military personnel who are forced to move because their spouse is posted for
military duty will be able to avoid state taxes in their temporary residence.
He
Refocused the Federal Government on Education
110.
Repeatedly increased funding for student financial aid, and at the same time
cut the banks completely out of the process.
111. Reformed
student loan program, to make it possible for students to refinance at a lower
rate.
112. Through
the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act , invested heavily in elementary,
secondary and post-secondary education.
113. Created
the Race to the Top program, which encouraged states to come up with effective
school reforms and rewards the best of them.
114. Oversaw
major expansion of broadband availability in K-12 schools nationwide ,
115. Oversaw
major expansion in school construction.
116. Also
through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he put $5 billion into
early education, including Head Start.
117. Signed
the Democratic-sponsored Post-9/11 GI Bill, also known as GI Bill 2.0
118. Oversaw
expansion of the Pell Grants program, to expand opportunity for low income
students to go to college.
119. Along
with Democratic Congress, passed and signed Individuals with Disabilities
Education Act, which provided an extra $12.2 billion in funds.
He Pushed
Through Improvements in National Safety and Security
120. Restored
federal agencies such as FEMA to the point that they have been able to manage a
huge number of natural disasters successfully.
121.
Authorized Navy SEALS to successfully secure the release of a US captain held
by Somali pirates and increased patrols off the Somali coast.
122. Has
repeatedly beefed up border security
123. Ordered
and oversaw the Navy SEALS operation that killed Osama bin Laden.
Science,
Technology and Health Care
124. Created a
Presidential Memorandum to restore scientific integrity in government
decision-making.
125. Opened up
process for fast-tracking patent approval for green energy projects.
126.
Eliminated Bush-era restrictions on embryonic stem cell research, and provided
increased federal support for biomedical and stem cell research.
127. Through
the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, committed more federal funding,
about $18 billion, to support non-defense science and research labs.
128. Signed
Democratic-sponsored Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act, the first
comprehensive attempt to improve the lives of Americans living with paralysis.
129. Expanded
the Nurse-Family Partnership program, which provides home visits by trained
registered nurses to low-income expectant mothers and their families, to cover
more first-time mothers.
130. Obama EPA
reveresed research ethics standards which allowed humands to be used as
"guinea pigs" in tests of the effects of chemicals, to comply with
numerous codes of medical ethics.
131. Conducted
a cyberspace policy review.
132. Provided
financial support for private sector space programs.
133. Oversaw
enhanced earth mapping, to provide valuable data for agricultural, educational,
scientific, and government use.
134. Along
with Democrats in Congress, ushered through and signed a bill authorizing FDA
to regulate tobacco. As a result, the FDA has Ordered Tobacco Companies to
Disclose Cigarette Ingredients and banned sale of cigarettes falsely labeled as
“light.”
135. Through
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, provided $500 million for Health
Professions Training Programs.
136. Increased
funding for community-based prevention programs.
137. Oversaw a
50% decrease in cost of prescription drugs for seniors.
138.
Eliminated the Bush-era practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with
drug companies on price.
139. Two weeks
after taking office, signed Democratic-sponsored Children’s Health Insurance
Reauthorization Act, which increased the number of children covered by health
insurance by 4 million.
140. Urged
Congress to investigate Anthem Blue Cross for raising premiums 39% without
explanation. Democratic Rep. Waxman responded by launching a probe, and Anthem
Blue Cross put increase on hold for two months.
141. Ushered
through and signed Affordable Care Act, which expanded health insurance
coverage to at least 30 million more people, ended many common insurance
company practices that are often detrimental to those with coverage. He also
established healthcare.gov, so that taxpayers could keep up with developments.
142. Through
ACA, allowed children to be covered under their parents’ policy until they
turned 26.
143. Through
the ACA, provided tax breaks to allow 3.5 million small business to provide
health insurance to their employees, and 29 million people will receive tax
breaks to help them afford health insurance.
144. Through
the ACA, expanded Medicaid to those making up to 133% of the federal poverty
level.
145. Through
the ACA, health insurance companies now have to disclose how much of your
premium actually goes to pay for patient care.
146.
Provisions in theACAhave already resulted in Medicare costs actually declining
slightly this fiscal year, for the first time in many years, according to the
Congressional Budget Office. The increase in 2011 was 4%, which is very low
compared to the average 12% annual inflation rate during previous 40 years.
He Took
Steps to Strengthen the Middle Class and Families, and to Fight Poverty
147. Worked to
provide affordable, high-quality child care to working families.
148. Cracked
down on companies that were previously denying sick pay, vacation and health
insurance, and Social Security and Medicare tax payments through abuse of the
employee classification of independent contractor.
149. Through
the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act , cut taxes for 95% of America's
working families.
150. Tax rates
for average working families are the lowest since 1950.
151. Extended
and fully funded the patch for the Alternative Minimum Tax for 10 years.
152. Extended
discounted COBRA health coverage for the unemployed from 9 months to 15 months,
and he’s extended unemployment benefits several times.
153. Provided
a $20 billion increase for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Food
Stamps).
154. Signed an
Executive Order that established the White House Office of Urban Affairs.
He Took
Concrete Steps to Improve Our Environment and Address Our Energy Needs
155.
Fast-tracked regulations to allow states to enact fuel efficiency standards
that exceeded federal standards.
156.
Fast-tracked increased fuel economy standards for vehicles beginning with the
2011 model year. It was the first time such standards had been increased in a
decade.
157. Oversaw
establishment of an Energy Partnership for the Americas, to create more markets
for American-made biofuels and green energy technologies.
158. Obama EPA
reversed a Bush-era decision to allow the largest mountaintop removal project
in US history.
159. Ordered
the Department of Energy to implement more aggressive efficiency standards for
common household appliances.
160. Ordered
energy plants to prepare to produce at least 15% of all energy through renewable
resources like wind and solar, by 2021. (As you can see, Republicans are trying
hard to kill it.)
161. Oversaw
the creation of an initiative that converts old factories and manufacturing
centers into new clean technology centers.
162. Bypassed
Republican opposition in Congress and ordered EPA to begin regulating and
measuring carbon emissions.
163. Obama EPA
ruled that CO2 is a pollutant.
164. Oversaw
doubling federal spending on clean energy research.
165. Pushed
through a tax credit to help people buy plug-in hybrid cars.
166. Created a
program to develop renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer
Continental Shelf that will produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean
currents.
167. Reengaged
in the climate change and greenhouse gas emissions agreements talks, and
proposed one himself. He also addressed the U.N. Climate Change Conference,
officially reversing the Bush era stance that climate change was a “hoax.”
168. Fully
supported the initial phase of the creation of a legally-binding treaty to
reduce mercury emissions worldwide.
169. Required
states to provide incentives to utilities to reduce their energy consumption.
170. Following
the neglect of Bush’s eight year reign, he reengaged in a number of treaties
and agreements designed to protect the Antarctic.
171. Created
tax write-offs for purchases of hybrid automobiles, and later he and Democrats
morphed that program into one that includes electric cars.
172. Mandated
that federal government fleet purchases be for fuel-efficient American
vehicles, and encouraged that federal agencies support experimental,
fuel-efficient vehicles.
173. Oversaw
and pushed through amendment to the Oil Pollution Act of 1990 authorizing
advances from Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund for the Deepwater Horizon oil
spill.
174. Actively
tried to amend the Oil Pollution Act of 1990 to eliminate the liability limits
for those companies responsible for large oil spills.
175. Initiated
Criminal and Civil inquiries into the Deepwater Horizon oil spill.
176. Through
his EPA, he asserted federal legal supremacy, and barred Texas from authorizing
new refinery permits on its own.
177.
Strengthened the Endangered Species Act.
178. Obama EPA
improved boiler safety standards to improve air quality, and save 6500 lives
per year.
179. Through
the EPA, attemped to take steps to severely limit the use of antibiotics in
livestock feed, to increase their efficacy in humans.
180. Increased
funding for National Parks and Forests by 10%
181. Announced
greatly improved commercial fuel efficiency standards.
182. Announced
a huge increase in average fuel economy standards from 27.5mpg in 2010 to
35.5mpg starting in 2016 and 54.5 starting in 2025
But That's
Not All...
183. Expanded
trade agreements to include stricter labor and environmental agreements such as
NAFTA.
184. Oversaw
funding of the design of a new Smithsonian National Museum of African American
History, which is scheduled to open on the National Mall in 2015. He protected
the funding during the recent budget negotiations.
185. Oversaw
and passed increased funding for the National Endowment for the Arts.
186. Nominated
Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court. Sotomayor is the first
Hispanic Justice in the court’s history, and the women represent only the third
and fourth women to serve on the court, out of a total of 112 justices.
187. Appointed
the most diverse Cabinet in history, including more women than any other
incoming president.
188.
Eliminated federal funding for abstinence-only education, and rescinded the
global gag rule.
189. Loosened
the rules and allowed the 14 states that legalized medical marijuana to
regulate themselves without federal interference.
190. Signed
national service legislation, increasing funding for national service groups,
including triple the size of the Americorps program.
191. Signed an
Executive Order that will speed up deployment of a more comprehensive broadband
infrastructure.
192. Signed an
Executive Order creating jobs immediately by instructing them to reduce the
time needed for review and permitting of infrastructure projects.
193. Signed a
bill that provided $4.3 billion in additional assistance to 9/11 first
responders.
And Did You
Know?
"Romney's misquotes and tax cheating. Failure"
Typical liberal response when you don't have an answer. I put you on the same level as the leader of the Senate. A man who bears false witness is not fit to be anything, much less a Senator.
@ Swallow:
I stopped reading after one of your 1st lines.
He Returned
The Executive Branch To Fiscal Responsibility After the Bush Debacle
Since we still don't have a budget, the rest of what you posted must be a bunch of BS like that is!
Swallow, your quote, or should we say pasted quote with no author or related sites or facts, "Democratic Controlled Congress created the law leading to the housing bubble that caused
the recession."
Perhaps you and your history revisionists need to read this from 2005,,,,,,,,,,http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0502c.asp,,,,, yes, it was Pres. Buck who signed the 2003 "Dream Act" that was sponsored by All Repuglicans as a vote getter in 2003...
Let's add this ,,
"The Bush "Dream Act" and the zero-down-payment plan are modeled after
"down-payment assistance programs" that have proliferated in recent years. These
programs, often engineered by nonprofit groups, routinely involve a home builder
giving a "gift" to the nonprofit, which provides a home buyer with money for the
down payment. The price of the house is sometimes increased by the same amount
as the builder's "gift." Almost all the mortgages created with down-payment
assistance end up being underwritten or guaranteed by either the Federal Housing
Administration (FHA) or Ginnie Mae (the Government National Mortgage
Association)."
"Free down payments carry catastrophic risks. The default rate on mortgages
from the largest down-payment-assistance organization, Nehemiah Corp., is 25
times higher than the nationwide mortgage-delinquency rate, according to the HUD
inspector general. The default rate on Nehemiah mortgages quadrupled between
1999 and 2002, reaching almost 20 percent. The I.G. warned that permitting the
Federal Housing Administration to insure mortgages made with gifts from
down-payment organizations is "endangering the FHA insurance pool." HUD
currently has no idea how many of the loans that the FHA is underwriting are
closed with down-payment gifts."
and,,,,,,,,,
"The Bush administration finally got its "Dream Act" pushed through Congress
in the fall of 2003. The House leadership chose freshman congresswoman Katherine
Harris (the Republican hero of the Florida 2000 recount) for the honor of
sponsoring the bill. Harris declared,
One congressional staffer raised the question of whether "HUD will soon send
out maids to ensure our right to a clean house."
When Bush signed the act on December 16, 2003, he declared,
He plaintively added,
Bush did not specify the precise percentage of blacks and Hispanics that
would be "right." The new law authorized federal handouts of $5,000 each for
40,000 home buyers whose incomes are less than 80 percent of a local area's
median."
Then we have this ,,,,,http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/108/s811, and the supporters of the "zero-down" mortgage,,,,,,,,,show cosponsors (9)
Sessions, Jefferson "Jeff" [R-AL]
Crapo, Michael [R-ID]
(joined Apr 09, 2003)
Brownback, Samuel "Sam" [R-KS]
(joined Apr 28, 2003)
Burns, Conrad [R-MT]
(joined May 13, 2003)
Hagel, Charles "Chuck" [R-NE]
(joined May 14, 2003)
Santorum, Richard "Rick" [R-PA]
(joined Jun 05, 2003)
Campbell, Ben [R-CO]
(joined Jun 25, 2003)
Enzi, Michael [R-WY]
(joined Oct 14, 2003)
Murkowski, Lisa [R-AK]
(joined Nov 20, 2003)
All Repuglicans, and Rick Sanitorium the defender of fiscal responsibility,,hah,,,,, is on the list.
Let's keep going Swallow and Conservatives, or "debt hawks".......http://www.politicolnews.com/investigating-banks-on-wall-street/
Sure blame the Democrats,,, with no authority,,,,,,then ask yourself who started the housing bubble...LOL.
Obama can't open his mouth without something negative spewing from it. Obama was pissed today that the White House Pres Corps. actually asked questions he could not answer effectively, because he's useless. Obama campaign lies on a daily basis so the whole article is crap.
If Romney broke the law, prove it. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. You angry little libs are just lashing out because you know Obama's day are numbered.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012
griff999 PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
Speaking of pissing, you angry little righties are just lashing out. Dude your head is going to explode while your pissing down your leg. If anyone is angry look in the mirror. Its not a pretty site.
Yes, Griff - we all know you'd prefer he just hold his hat in his hand and shuffle his feet when he's attacked by R'Money and his Mini-Me. Too bad he's going to call them on every single lie and flip-flop from now until October, eh? WHERE ARE THE TAX RETURNS? AMERICA WANTS TO KNOW!
Obama/Biden 2012. FORWARD.
Hussein Zero's next job. Picking up all the Occupy Wall Street's crap from the street. Start packing Zero-You Are ONE AND DONE!
Tax cheating Romney LOL. What a failure Romney is
What amazes so many, is the fact that this foolish man, Willard Mitt-Wit Romney the talking lying buffoon, is the Republican choice for President of the United States. You people really sit your bar low.
No. SHERLOCK HOLMES told us that. Eliminate all the other possibilities and the one remaining must be the truth.
Anyone that does not release his returns amidst all this kerfuffle must have SOMETHING BIG TO HIDE. Mr. Romney left off the OVERSEAS ACCOUNTS form from his 2010 return, the only one where he ACTUALLY release an ACTUAL TAX FORM of any sort. There was a tax amnesty for TAX FELONS that occurred the mid 2000's. Add it up and it SURELY APPEARS that Mr. ROMNEY took advantage of the AMNESTY.
No other conclusion. We know he is rich, he is not hiding that. We know he paid little in taxes, he is not hiding that. WHAT ELSE COULD HE BE HIDING? More dancing horses?
The president and vice president acutally don't have to give another speech or press conference to win. All they need to do is keep quiet and watch the republicans talk. The more they talk the dumber they look.
and the Independents ask: How did Obama raise the National Debt to over 16 trillion dollars? hoe does Obama plan to pay down the debt? What about the financial cliff we are headed for? How can we afford Obamacare?
Owebama's America, 2016, the movie
@DAL excellent comment. I wish I was a rich failure. What a loser.
More damn whining from the Romney camp. Man up!!!!
Whatcha going to do when Jeremiah Wright opens his little box of audio tapes between him and Obama lamenting being in a Christian church but still believing in Islam. Remember this, Obama threw him under the bus....the thing is Wright's from Chicago too. And the gall of Obama saying you can't just make things up...Guess ole Axlerod, the DNC and his Soros founded pacs didn't get the memo. I don't think Obama has a phone bank in Gaza anymore, does he??? Or any more trips to Pakistan with his ole college buddy. We don't need to worry about Obama's transcripts being leaked.....they were all seized and removed by the Secret Service and stored at an un-named secure storage area...hmm, furnace come to mind.
Lips are moving and more lies.... and no action!! SO SAD theirs videos out there to prove his half truths and lies...
Interesting.
Obama thinks his campaign is "clean." He thinks you shouldn't "just make stuff up."
Yet he allows his campaign staffers to go around screaming about Romney's tax returns. When, he and they know full well, there is no ongoing investigation by either the IRS nor the Justice Department into whether or not Romney was in compliance with the law.
Isn't that "making stuff up?"
Both parties are equally corrupt and have no need to strain themselves trying to come up with a real solutions to the country's problems - they have NO COMPETITION! And the American people go like a yo-yo from one set of crooks to the other, always hoping for a change, and never getting it... vote 3 party, whoever it may be... one day the 2 party shell game will be over.
Obama was telling lies about his deceased mother during the 2008 campaign and then as a political point to sell the ACA bill. Talk about having no shame.
Romney has released one year of tax returns in which he only paid 13.9% of his income in taxes. What lower rate did he pay in the years he is too embarrassed to share with us? Nothing? Is talking about his refusal to be honest with us lying? I think not.
Obama's mother died of cancer, while fighting for coverage of treatments with her insurance company. This is not a lie. I know of many other people who have faced the same problem with coverage with their insurance companies. One friend, now deceased, had to be hospitalized in poor condition, before the insurance company would pay for the drug that would have kept her out of the hospital. This happened 4 separate times before she eventually died. Another friend had an insurance company that claimed it was a pre-existing condition since he had been treated years before with the same cancer covered by another insurance company.
Lies and distortions seem to be the Republicans' stock-in-trade. And repeating a lie is pretty much the same as lying, just dumber!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Republicans also believe that Healthcare needs reform. They are definitely of the same mind as Democrats in that they believe Insurance companies are often cruel, shameless, and greedy. This has to be dealt with, though I don't understand how allowing the Government monstrosity to manage the problem will improve the situation.
The Government is famously terrible at managing things. Fraud, waste, greed, and corruption will be as prevalent in this system as in all of the others. If there are problems with Obamacare they will NEVER be resolved. They will continue on just like they have in every other program since its inception. Look at all these different programs.
All good well meaning ideas terribly implemented. It takes bureaucrats eons to make decisions or even attempt improvements. Its crazy we're willing to let them manage our Health!!! Nuts.
The private sector definitely has its problems but at least there's competition and failure. At least people have the opportunity to find a different provider if they're not getting what they want. At least companies fail if they don't advance or serve the needs of their customers. When this gets going there will be essentially this one big government mess that never gets improved and that's it. Startling...
The newest research from Nate has it as the NOV 6 factors:
“Obama chance of winning 69.7% Romney 30.3%”
“Projected Winner Obama 299.7”
“Projected Loser Romney 238.3”
However, if the election was being voted in “Now Cast” Today:
Totals
“Obama chance of winning 69.8% Romney 30.2%”
“Projected Winner Obama 291.7”
“Projected Loser Romney 246.3”
Jobs1
President Obama is up fifteen points over Romney in the state of Maine. But then, we've been living with the results of Tea Party policies for the past two years, so it doesn't take much to convince us to go with the Democrat. With a Republican-majority state legislature and right-wing governor, Maine is now the most pessimistic state in the country, according to Gallup. We're the only New England state that hasn't seen improvement in our jobs picture.
Amy - Are you sure its the tea party or the fact that 33% of Maine residents are on welfare and are afraid their welfare check may stop if they vote for Romney? Maine parasites for Obama
Well Amy, the below comment comes from what we all know as just another dumb a$$ tag bag that doesn't know anything. We call them the welfare seeking tea baggers, that don't want to work.
Really Job1 please dispute the fact that one out every three residents in Maine are on welfare. Welfare recipients do not vote Republican its not in their self interest. If I'm wrong please explain to me why the Lizzie Warren campaign in MA made sure that a massout of Voter registration card went out to ALL WELFARE recipients so she could be sure they were registered to vote. Lizzie Warren is a DEMOCRAT.
I'm the dumdazz - no I hit a nerve because we all know the left panders to the welfare queens!
Maine has the oldest and whitest demographics in the nation, not exactly what one considers the Obama "base," and yet, we support the President's re-election, by fifteen points, having seen what the Tea Party brings (hint: it ain't jobs.)
Just like Wisconsin. Since Walker and the republinutcases took over everything, we have lost jobs and seen our economy tank. Now we have no jobs but we can carry concealed guns in public and hunt wolves.
GOP Progress, I guess.
Oh yeah. If they have their way we will have to give up fishing up north and just work in the mines. I can't wait until they rename some northern county "Mordor"...
SRS, quit spewing your babbling LIES.
I live in Illinois, but my job is in Menomonee Falls, WI. And let me tell you something, a lot of my neighbors also work in Wisconsin. Why? Because Wisconsin is BOOMING. The traffic every morning is sometimes unbearable, typical of a state with massive employment and a balancing budget!
Unlike Illinois, riddled with corrupt politicians ala Blagojevich & Jackson Jr. and skyrocket unemployment like all Democratic controlled states.
Walker's re-election by a LANDSLIDE is proof of how happy the people of Wisconsin are with him. That recall election was a JOKE created by libtard crying unions that did nothing but cost the state money.
The only reason you can't get a job in Wisconsin is because you enjoy being on welfare like all backwards libtards!
That statement is a crock of poop. Tea bag people put in the tea bag governor, and many Republicans are on welfare, and that is a fact.
So you are one of the republican tea bag people that aren't getting welfare.
Correct. I just had to leave a unemployment riddled Libtard controlled state to do it though. ;-)
Traffic is backup up because of the Freeway Construction and a bunch of people from Illinois talking on their cellphones instead of driving.
Nope. Wisconsin was booming BEFORE Walker took over. We were creating jobs, income was growing and everything seemed OK. We had less of a real estate bubble than other places and it looked like we dodged a bullet. I am sorry for you Illinoiances if you think this is good. I guess if you compare it to Illinois, it looks good but THAT is damning with faint praise.
UNTIL NOW!
We just lost some 15,000 jobs according to the last monthly report. Things are falling apart. We have gun nuts shooting up temples, pipeline ruptures causing gas prices to skyrocket and next we will have a sulfate mine in the headwaters of the Wisconsin River. Nice. Mordor is a GREAT COMPARISON.
Typical Obama, do as I say and not as I do.
Amy has never been honest about Maine. Maine has been under the control of Democrats in the legislature for decades. They turned Maine into a welfare state with a stagnant population and no jobs. Liberal tax and spend policies have driven Maine to the brink, and now that Republicans have been in control for 2 years everything is their fault according to Amy. Liberals are like Teflon, nothing ever sticks to them.
RRADIKO, Thanks for reading my post and commenting. If the economy were really fixed then this would not be an issue. If the economy were really fixed then the President would not have proposed a second stimulus. If the economy were really fixed then the President would be keeping his promise that the 2012 federal deficit will not exceed 229.27 billion dollars. I am not saying that the stimulus did not have any effect but it did not solve our unemployment problem and it did not turn the economy around. A report issued by the Obama administration to help sell the stimulus predicted unemployment as a function of time both if the stimulus were passed and the stimulus were not passed. According to the graphs appearing in that report, unemployment has been a little worse than if no stimulus were ever passed. Whatever good was done by the stimulus, I do not think it was worth all the money borrowed by the federal government and what it will end up costing the tax payers to pay it all back. The federal deficit is still at record proportions and the White House is predicting huge deficits each year for at least another decade.
will haas,
i think i need to continue your statement: if the republicans in congress had not declared BEFORE the president was even inaugurated that their ONLY mission in the next four years would be to make sure obama was a one term president, maybe we would have had more movement on unemployment. if the republicans had not spent the last four years saying NO to every SINGLE initiative the democrats put on the table, EVEN ideas that they had once supported, maybe we would have had more movement on the economy. if the republicans had NOT used the filibuster more than any other congress in the history of this country to stop any movement forward on jobs bills, energy bills and education bills, maybe we would have moved forward. maybe is the republican party had not used LIES and FEAR to rout the ACA, we would have a public option and businesses wouldn't feel as if they were going to be gutted by the costs. they shot themselves in the foot is you ask me.
if the republican party had spent half as much time trying to help the economy and jobs market as they did trying to take AWAY the rights of women to control their own bodies, we would be better off.
my point is, this isn't just the fault of the democrats. they should have been more forceful and demanded that the republicans work with them, or just work around them. they wimped out. but, THAT was congress and they are as we all know completely ineffectual at this point. what we need is to send most of them packing and get people in there that will actually work with the administration, which i have no doubt will be obama/biden.
Trolls aka Tea-Bags seem to be collapsing posts... sigh
NEWS WEEK COVER: August 20,2012
www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/08/19/niall-ferguson-on-why-barack-obama-needs-to-go.html
I was a good loser four years ago. "In the grand scheme of history," I wrote the day after Barack Obama's election as president, "four decades is not an especially long time. Yet in that brief period America has gone from the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. to the apotheosis of Barack Obama. You would not be human if you failed to acknowledge this as a cause for great rejoicing."
Despite having been—full
disclosure—an adviser to John McCain, I acknowledged his opponent's remarkable
qualities: his soaring oratory, his cool, hard-to-ruffle temperament, and his
near faultless campaign organization.
Yet the question confronting the country nearly four
years later is not who was the better candidate four years ago. It is whether
the winner has delivered on his promises. And the sad truth is that he has not.
In his inaugural address, Obama promised "not only to
create new jobs, but to lay a new foundation for growth." He promised to "build
the roads and bridges, the electric grids, and digital lines that feed our
commerce and bind us together." He promised to "restore science to its rightful
place and wield technology's wonders to raise health care's quality and lower
its cost." And he promised to "transform our schools and colleges and
universities to meet the demands of a new age." Unfortunately the president's
scorecard on every single one of those bold pledges is pitiful.
Newsweek@Newsweek
COVER STORY: Obama has broken his
promises, and it's clear that the GOP ticket's path to prosperity is our only
hope bit.ly/QQLouG
19 Aug 12
In an unguarded moment earlier this year, the president
commented that the private sector of the economy was "doing fine." Certainly,
the stock market is well up (by 74 percent) relative to the close on
Inauguration Day 2009. But the total number of private-sector jobs is still 4.3
million below the January 2008 peak. Meanwhile, since 2008, a staggering 3.6
million Americans have been added to Social Security's disability insurance
program. This is one of many ways unemployment is being concealed.
In his fiscal year 2010 budget—the first he presented—the
president envisaged growth of 3.2 percent in 2010, 4.0 percent in 2011, 4.6
percent in 2012. The actual numbers were 2.4 percent in 2010 and 1.8 percent in
2011; few forecasters now expect it to be much above 2.3 percent this year.
Unemployment was supposed to be 6 percent by now. It has
averaged 8.2 percent this year so far. Meanwhile real median annual household
income has dropped more than 5 percent since June 2009. Nearly 110 million
individuals received a welfare benefit in 2011, mostly Medicaid or food stamps.
Welcome to Obama's America: nearly half the population is
not represented on a taxable return—almost exactly the same proportion that
lives in a household where at least one member receives some type of government
benefit. We are becoming the 50–50 nation—half of us paying the taxes, the
other half receiving the benefits.
debt in public hands was supposed to fall
in relation to GDP from 67 percent in 2010 to less than 66 percent this year.
If only. By the end of this year, according to the Congressional Budget Office
(CBO), it will reach 70 percent of GDP. These figures significantly understate
the debt problem, however. The ratio that matters is debt to revenue. That
number has leapt upward from 165 percent in 2008 to 262 percent this year,
according to figures from the International Monetary Fund. Among developed economies,
only Ireland and Spain have seen a bigger deterioration. And all this despite a
far bigger hike in the federal debt than we were promised. According to the
2010 budget, the
Not only did the initial fiscal stimulus fade after the
sugar rush of 2009, but the president has done absolutely nothing to close the
long-term gap between spending and revenue.
His much-vaunted health-care reform will not prevent
spending on health programs growing from more than 5 percent of GDP today to
almost 10 percent in 2037. Add the projected increase in the costs of Social
Security and you are looking at a total bill of 16 percent of GDP 25 years from
now. That is only slightly less than the average cost of all federal programs
and activities, apart from net interest payments, over the past 40 years. Under
this president's policies, the debt is on course to approach 200 percent of GDP
in 2037—a mountain of debt that is bound to reduce growth even further.
an editorial by someone who doesn't like obama..shocking, shocking I say! lol.
this blog is just more nonsense. Romney sucks
Well, it's clear that this free lance writer Niall Ferguson is one of these far right tea bag types that would not know a fact f it bit him.
A Full Fact-Check Of Niall Ferguson's Argument Against Obama
Read more: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/08/a-full-factcheck-of-niall-fergusons-very-bad-argument-against-obama/261306/#ixzz247AbwXZn
I liked the Newsweek of cover of July 30, 2012 in which the "Mitt is a Wimp"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/30/newsweek-mitt-romney-wimp-cover_n_1719596.html#slide=617582
metoo - an editorial that has been panned by everyone with integrity - including a bipartisan tax panel who said the writer should be fired for just blatantly lying... That WOULD be the article a Romney supporter would be quoting - you betcha!
Obama/Biden 2012
anyone else questioning the validity of measuring jobs from January 2008?
Tina Brown is a Tattler columnist and her take on Journalism is clearly not aligned with REAL journalists.
So glad I cancelled my subscription to Newsweek when she was put in charge.
Is there anything worse than watching all of these 'pretenders' acting like they gave the President a FAIR chance to enact his policies? Something evil is lurking amongst us,...and it's not just the die hard rightwing nutjobs.
It's the 'society' holding President Obama to a standard of success that is MORE than or DIFFERENT than others. And we are supposed to pretend that all recessions are equal and somehow Obama PERSONALLY made this one worse.
The haters are gonna' hate,...they need a forum,...and Tina Brown is more than happy to oblige!
PS. Am I the only one laughing at how quickly the Faux News lovers are now EMBRACING the "Lame Stream Media"? Oh where oh where is that LIBERAL bias, now?
Keeping in mind that Niall Ferguson was an advisor to John McCain, and thus might be a wee bit biased. The following are mainstream news sources, not liberal blogs. OK, HuffPo is pretty liberal...
"Paul Krugman Bashes Niall Ferguson's Newsweek Cover Story as 'Unethical'"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/20/paul-krugman-niall-ferguson-newsweek_n_1810136.html
"Niall Ferguson is Wrong About Obama's Foreign Policy, Too"
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/the_rumble/2012/08/niall-ferguson-is-wrong-about-obama%E2%80%99s-foreign-policy-too
"Niall Ferguson Publishes Embarrassing Defense of Newsweek Article"
http://www.businessinsider.com/niall-fergusons-embarrassing-response-to-paul-krugman-2012-8
And my personal favorite,
"As a Harvard Alum, I apologize"
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/08/as-a-harvard-alum-i-apologize/261308/
"Yes, I know, you could imagine many sentences that would follow that headline. But here is what I have in mind right now: A tenured professor of history at my undergraduate alma mater has written a cover story for Daily Beast/Newsweek that is so careless and unconvincing that I wonder how he will presume to sit in judgment of the next set of student papers he has to grade. It's by the irrepressible Niall Ferguson, it is headlined "Obama's Gotta Go," and its case rests on logic of this sort: [see article]"
metoo999 hits on both the biggest truth and the biggest lie of the entire election. Acknowledging that Obama has not really hit the ball out of the park as president, the indisputable fact is that we'll never know how effective Obama's first term would have been if the Republican Party not been so dead set on blocking his legislative agenda. Saying that Obama "failed" is a bit like complaining that a benched player didn't get any hits.
Here's some facts, (1) in October of 2010, Mitch McConnell stated on Fox News that his biggest goal was to make Obama a 1-term president - not job creation or entitlement reform - beating Obama. Joe Scarborough (a former Republican Congressman) was so offended that he sounded off on how pathetic that was. (I don't have the URL, but it's on YouTube if you want to go find it.) (2) The Senate Republicans back this tactic up with a new record for filibustering during Obama's presidency. At the same time, John Boehner, who had some sense that compromise is a good way to govern, was made to look like a complete fool by his own caucus in the House who steadfastly refused to back anything that struck them as a compromise with Obama - thus Eric Cantor.
The Republican Party put us here with GW and spent 3 years doing its best to keep us here so that they can continue to move us toward some bizarre theocracy/oligarchy hybrid. My take is when Karl Marx said that religion was the "opiate of the masses," the Republican Party said "Hey, we need a good opiate for the masses here in the US. Let's throw our weight behind religion, especially the really crazy ones!" Shockingly, it's kind of working.
There are a couple of articles in this week's Time Magazine on Paul Ryan. I find the one by Joe Klein very interesting. He says that the Ryan/Romney plan is fine for the well off, but not for everyone else. It says a lot about what we would be in for if those two are elected. It is really scary.
Romney verbally eviscerated his opponents in the primary.
It is ludicrous that now he accuses someone else of being negative. Short
memory.....
The one Romney lost in 2008?
Really? You could tell them apart in the primary debates?
I saw a headline yesterday where Obama said "You can't make this stufff up." I asssumed he wasANd you reallly can't make up stuff as craZY sa these RIghties willl do on their own. THe bizarrre nature of the Republican party has even elminated sarcassdm on the internet - as there is nothing you can post that is as crazy as what the Righties earnestly post. I resolve to enjoy it while it lasts; aster alll, an incoherent disorganized opposition is better than no opposition at all.
Romney will say and do anything to be elected President. In business, he also did almost anything to make a buck. Buy a company like KB Toys, saddle it with debt, take his profit, leave it go bankrupt with thousands losing their jobs while we got to pay their unemployment benefits. He leaves with an $80 million profit and the banks hold millions in BAD DEBT.
Nothing really different here. As long as it HELPS Mitt, it must be good.
KB Toys could not afford Mitt Romney. Neither can we.
By the way, KB Toys in its bankrupcy sold its trademark to Toys R Us. KB Toys is out of business. The brand name is the only thing that survived Romney's reckless GREED.
Obama don't Lie, yeah right.
Dobi, Republicans corner the market in "lying" and everybody knows it. The press just caught Romney red-handed lying through his teeth while claiming one of President Obama's policies was his own.
If it weren't for lying, Republicans wouldn't have a word to say!
Republicans have a long list and a long history of telling out-right lies.
Obama/Biden 2012
Typical Obama, do as I say not as I do. American Girl is so typical of liberals, always pointing fingers at someone else. The Democrats are the Teflon party, nothing ever sticks to them.
Rick - So it's your claim that republicans don't do the same thing? (Point fingers at someone else?)
Obama's comments are laughable, much like his presidency.
Of course, when confronted with things that make you want to cry, we have to laugh.
Is that why Romney cries? I thought is was because he is a tax cheat
Prove he is a tax cheat .
No. Prove he is not. All the CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE links him to the tax amnesty program. If he was in the amnesty he is a felon. If so, he is unconvicted but he has confessed to a FELONIOUS ACT.
WE MUST ASSUME AS MUCH UNTIL HE RELEASES HIS TAX RETURNS!
WE do NOT have to prove it. HE MUST DISPROVE IT!
SRS,
You are jealous. He is rich, get over it.
Governor Romney has complied with all required laws in regard to his tax returns. He has determined it is more important to focus on the crises at hand courtesy of our current POTUS. He and Ryan are bringing solutions.
I recommend you and anybody else who has an issue with his tax returns simply assume he paid the minimal amount of taxes required by law each year. Not one dime more and not one dime less. After all, I am sure he has the best accountants that money can buy.
At the end of the day it is a non issue as to what his tax bill is. In essence, it really is none of our business (just like Obamas college transcript. Though I am certain he had a few D's and F's he did not want to show us. It really was on him to disprove it...LOLOLOLO)
TO: victorkingdom who wrote:
Republicans like to make up creepy things. With Sarah "The Bimbo" Palin the Republican mantra was "we were all 'scared' of her." Now with this idiot Romney, supposedly "He's rich, and we're jealous." Not true.
Here's the kicker: We know a crook when we see one, and Republican voters have proven themselves to be deaf, dumb and blind when it comes to political crooks, and they are "none the wiser" after the crimes occur too!
You don't know if Romeny has "complied" or not. It's not even possible for you to know that because Mitt Romney refuses to release his tax returns.
One thing about Republicans, they sure don't mind to lie and back up the lies coming from their candidates! This reminds me of when Bush was in office, Republicans created a "culture of corruption" and it's still that way. Not one honest bone in the bunch.
Obama/Biden 2012
American Girl,
Not sure if you are aware, but Palin nor Bush is not running for office this time around.
Also, there is this organization in the Federal Government called the Internal Revenue Service. They review and audit tax returns of individuals and coroporations. By law, all US citizens need to file with them by every April 15. Just a guess on my part, but if they had an issue with Romney's tax returns I am certain they would have dealt with it. In other words, he "complied" with the law.
PS, Obama lied about taxes....you know, when he said Obamacare was NOT a tax and then argued in front of the SCOTUS that it WAS a tax. Geez.
Well since Romney has released fewer tax returns than any candidate since Reagan amid accusations of fraud, I'd say the burden is on HIM to prove his innocence. Even his wife admitted "it would only give his opponents ammunition" for him to release more returns. That was a guilty plea folks.
Typical of liberals, I accuse you with not one shred of proof, and you are guilty unless you prove yourself innocent. Obama is the do as I say not as I do president.
Yeah. Just like the liberals that think Obama forged his birth certificate, draft card, and college transcripts.
Less Invasions,
I suggest you vote for Obama then.
I plan to. After the congressional Republicans' performance for the past two years and the hyper conservative stance the party in general is taking now they'll be lucky if they ever get my vote again. And yes, I used to be a Republican too. A moderate one, but still a Republican.
Good for you.
I used to be a Democrat but once I saw the drunken sailor spending patterns of Obama I had to bail out. The Senate has really chosen to obstruct the last two years which has been brutal. On top of it let's just say Obama has clearly been dishonest with us.
Sorry to say it is time for a change in leadership. In all cases Obama must go. Time for an adult in the Oval office.
In the future I will continue to vote across party lines (I would not want to be closed minded) but I have no clue how anybody could vote for Obama again. He has been a dishonest and failed leader.
someone mentioned tax cheat?
from the Federal Bureau of Investigations, or F.B.I., for you..here:
http://www.fbi.gov/fbi-search?q=tax+evasion&siteurl=www.fbi.gov%2F#output=xml_no_dtd&client=google-csbe&cx=004748461833896749646%3Ae41lgwqry7w&cof=FORID%3A10%3BNB%3A1&ie=UTF-8&siteurl=www.fbi.gov%2F&q=tax+evasion
Tax Evasion stories for you, from the Feds.
Oh, the democrats are obstructing? Let me see...
Benefits for Homeless Veterans- Would have expanded benefits to homeless veterans and homeless veterans with children. Republicans blocked this.
Health Care for the 9/11 First Responders who got sick from being at Ground Zero- Would provide billions of dollars in health care to help the 9/11 First Responders who were at Ground Zero on 9/11 and are now sick because of it. Republicans blocked this.
The Jobs Bill- Offsets the payroll tax for 1 year for companies that hire new employees, or people receiving unemployment insurance. Also gives other tax incentives to companies hiring new employees. Republicans attempted to block this.
Small business lending bill- would give LOCAL, community banks access to billions of dollars to loan to small businesses. Republicans blocked this.
Financial reform- Puts stricter regulations on the banks, preventing them from becoming "too big to fail". Curbs reckless spending practices that caused the banking crisis. Republicans attempted to block this.
Stimulus Bill- Pumped billions of dollars into state and local Governments to prevent us from sinking into a second Great Depression. Republicans opposed this but now want to take credit for the parts of it that we know are successful.
Oil Spill Liability- Raises the liability on what companies can be made to pay to clean up after an oil spill. Republicans blocked this.
Political Ad disclosure bill- Would have required all donors to political campaigns to reveal themselves. Republicans blocked this.
Immigration- Republican suggested comprehensive immigration reform until Obama supported it. Now they're rabidly opposed to it and even voted against their own legislation. Republicans blocked this.
There's just a small cross section of what your republican representatives have been up to. I hate to go off topic, but you didn't seem too convinced at my "obstructionist" remark. They only want Obama out of office. If that means they
There's but a small sample of what your worthless Republican congress has been up to. Republicans are also filibustering in the senate to stop bills there too. Their agenda is to stop progress to make Obama look bad, and you've bought it hook, line and sinker. Oh an one more thing. Want to know what the single biggest increase in the debt was under Obama? He added in the cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars that Bush Jr. left off the budget. Stands to reason that Republicans and their lackeys would blame Obama for that debt. Go ahead and vote Republican. Don't let facts stand in the way.
Victor Kingdom, get your facts straight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chief Justice Roberts developed the penalty is a tax argument. The Obama Justice Dept did not argue this. The four justices that eventually voted for Roberts position actually agreed with Obama that the penalty was constitutional. The four that dissented thought the penalty was unconstitutional.
Do you just make this stuff up? Obama was not lying, but you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow...it took you all afternoon to make up those lies didn't it, News98?
Less Invasions,
Thankfully once the Dems got swamped in the 2010 election we had a Congress that was able to put the brakes on Obama's failed policies. As an aside, Harry Reid has not allowed a budget vote in three years. He leads the Senate. I call that the ultimate in obstruction. BTW, I am not buying that we would have been in another Great Depression. You are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts. We would have been better off doing nothing and unemployment would certainly be lower than it is today if we had done nothing.
Shack, you can try to twist it all you want but the fact is Obama had his solicitor general argue in front of the Supreme Court that it was a tax. Therefore, Obama lied to the American people when he venhemently denied it was a tax. Even he does not argue this.
Grow up dudes. Are you guys old enough to vote?
Reid has not allowed a budget vote because the only budgets the republican house will hand to the senate is rife with tax cuts for the wealthy and cuts to assistance to those lazy bastards in the middle and lower classes. Need I say again that the marginal rate for the wealthy was 75% in 1979 and sits comfortably at 35% now before deductions, which half it once again to make the effective rate of ~17.5%. Capitol gains are even taxed at ~15%. That translates to a lower rate than what the middle class pays. It's a lower rate than the wealthy have paid since 1931, and yet the house wants to lower it FURTHER, citing that it will create jobs. Economics 101: Businesses don't create jobs because they want to help the community. They create jobs when demand increases enough to make it a necessity. The poor and middle class spend more money than the wealthy overall. Much more. That's part of the reason why they're poor and middle class. Increasing their tax burden will sink demand even more, thus causing more job losses. Plenty of other house bills had nice pork on them like anti abortion legislation. Bills that had NOTHING to do with women's rights or anything similar. They were never intended to pas. Once again, they existed merely to fail and make the president look bad.
Obamacare is the reason I didn't like Obama during the first two years of his term. He proposed numerous other bills that I did agree with that passed however. The economy is the most important thing right now, and when he started trying to do something about it, the republican house blocked him every step of the way. No compromises. Just "NO" if they didn't get 100% of their way. THEY were the ones acting like children, holding all of our financial success hostage to unseat the president. They didn't count on some people watching them very closely. I did.
I supported Bush Sr. as a kid, hated Bill Clinton as a teenager, supported Bush Jr. both times as a young adult, and opposed Obama in 2008. I'm a 31 year old middle class homeowner with two smart kids that want to go to college, and this year I will vote for the first time ever...for Obama/Biden. Already have my card.
News 98, what are your sources or do you just make these lies and innuendos up?
And please pardon the typos. My keyboard is old and decrepit and I didn't proofread before submitting.
Romney doesn't seem to realize, as the challenger, the onus is on him to convince Americans it's worth the trouble to change Presidents.
It's a pretty high bar, considering President Obama is personally popular, Bin Laden is dead, and the country had to recover from the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, during Obama's first term.
I just think it's amazing Romney thinks he can just waltz into office, not revealing his plans or his tax returns, because America is somehow waiting for a mediocre former governor, and unlikeable figure, to replace the charismatic incumbent. I think Romney overestimated how many votes his corporate backers could buy.
Amen, Ames!
Math is not their strong suit,...so they must be relying on other 'irregularities' to explain their confidence.
Amy..Had to recover? we are far from out of the woods by any means. Obama's Popularity is half of what it once was. Romney already turned in tax returns or is it you want every year for the past what...ten..twenty?. Politics and history shows us that you dont have to have much for actual experience to become elected for president.. or maybe i'll vote for Romney..just to see what is enclosed in his plan..sounds familiar. because last time we had an idiot in chief elected for two terms..it turned out pretty bad, and the last time a President was re-elected with an economy and unemployment the way it is?....well look that up
DO NOT LIE! Mitt Romney has produced ZERO COMPLETE TAX RETURNS. NONE! NADA!
The 2010 return is incomplete. He left off the form that lists his OVERSEAS MONEY. Without THAT form, the tax return is just a SANITIZED DOCUMENT. He has released an ESTIMATE of the 2011 return without ANY REAL TAX FORMS.
If you consider ANY OF THAT a tax return, you are full of it.
'Amy' - I am shocked to learn that you think that we have 'recovered' the economy since 'the one' came in to office. Thanks for the update - I was not aware that 8.3% unemployment was the 'recovery' standard that we were looking for - I feel SO much better now.
Amy,
Given Obamas results it is amazing that Romney is not clearly ahead in every poll. Maybe instead of running Bain he should have gone into Community organizing.....LOLOLOL
TO: Bill Morin who wrote:
If we're in the woods it's only because that's where Republicans put us in the first place, and that's where Repubublicans want us to stay! Republicans stalled everything they could to hold us back!
And we'll be further off if we let those conniving Republicans in. Vote all Republicans OUT!!!
Vote a straight Democratic ticket this November!
Obama/Biden 2012
If Obama gets re-elected, just look at the mess he will inherit from himself. Obama is the do as I say not as I do president.
Jonathan -- Amy did not say that she thinks the economy has fully recovered. You can't just make stuff up. All the people just making stuff up look stupid/deceitful. I don't know why I have bothered to read so many comments on this particular article, what did I expect? Of course all you republican Romney wanna-bes would pull out the "I'm rubber, you're glue" argument over and over and over.
I guess that once in a while I do read something interesting, such as Amy's comment in #9.1 that Maine is the most pessimistic state in the union, according to Gallup. I thought that dishonor would have gone to Florida. But then we also have a corrupt tea-bagger governor.
"You can't just make stuff up".
Ohhh Mr. President they can make stuff up. Still looking for nukes in Iraq
They went to Syria via trucks with innocent civilians as shields. Tuff fact reported by the media at the time but ignored by all as unprovable intel because nothing we could do but watch or cause a human tragedy.
BU**SH**!!
The only WMD ever found was the stuff Reagan/Bush gave to Saddam, which Saddam used on Iranians and Kurds like the good little CIA asset he was.
Do you already forget that your "leaders" slandered a US Ambassador, outed the CIA agent in charge of the team looking for WMD, and killed the UN weapons inspector who said that the WMD charges were "sexed up"?
Are you wearing your American flag lapel pin like a good little Fascist?
Miklit,
I guess it is a good thing that Bush and Reagan aren't running in this election.
It is also nice to know that Obama closed Gitmo in his first year.......er....er...I mean endorsed ongoing torture down there.
TO: victorkingdom who wrote:
That's not quite true.
Mitt Romney has mostly all of George "Curveball" Bush's staff and cabinet ready to be re-hired.
So yeah, if Romney were to get in I'm sure all the Bushes would get their keys and their bedrooms back at the White House, and Republicans are already ready to take us back to the failed "trickle down economics" from the failed Reagan Voo-Doo Economics era.
Obama/Biden 2012
American Girl,
Whatever....time for you guys to grow up.
The repukions can make up anything ........... look at lies R and R are making up as they go , Ryan has his mother on the pay roll , if she loses her Medicare she will have millions to buy healthcare with .
Apparently everyone missed the WMD's found in Iraq. You can bet the only reason the Obama administration didn't leak this intelligence is because it benefited Bush. Notice this came from MSNBC, so liberals don't have Fox to bash for this one.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/secret-us-mission-hauls-uranium-iraq/
Rick, "apparently" you are reading between the lines, ala Rush, and Faux News....
"While yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a so-called "dirty bomb" — a conventional explosive that disperses radioactive material — it could stir widespread panic if incorporated in a blast. Yellowcake also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment.
The Iraqi government sold the yellowcake to a Canadian uranium producer, Cameco Corp., in a transaction the official described as worth "tens of millions of dollars." A Cameco spokesman, Lyle Krahn, declined to discuss the price, but said the yellowcake will be processed at facilities in Ontario for use in energy-producing reactors." How many enrichment facilities did Saddam have ? Answer: None.....
"Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981. Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said." old yellowcake, stored in rusting barrels do not make a weapon. Gee, the nuts are out tonight, please pass the popcorn.
Not to worry, Obama gave away Iraq for an increasingly chaotic Afghanistan. So in the end no gains for the US. Whether ignorant liberals want to believe or not believe that Iraq had WMD's, it makes no difference now. It is a well known fact they did have them, and were developing them. When exactly they stopped, and where they ended up is anyone's guess. It wasn't as if our coming to Iraq was enough of a surprise to prevent them from covering their tracks.
We never should have gone to Iraq under the guise of WMD's in the first place. It was a stupid political move that they obviously felt was the best way to win support in the Congress. Which it did, and both Democrats and Republicans made the call, even if liberals like to leave that part out.
We needed to go to Iraq because the United Nations had become a joke. Iraq had ignored some 16 UN resolutions, and all the UN wanted to do was continue to move the line in the sand. It should have been a UN sanctioned war, but even that would have meant the US leads the way. Saddam was a brutal dictator, again something liberals ignore. If nothing else, we gave people that would have been oppressed their entire lives a chance at hope. How liberals find fault with that is hard to comprehend. Lucky for the patriots of the Revolutionary War, we had foreign help, and thankfully liberals weren't around to prevent it.
Rick, without any prove, you are right,,,,,,NOT. Do you understand how large a facility is needed to refine that "yellowcake" into a WMD? Try Google, oh yah their liberal. Well, go to a library, no they have bad books there. Go to your Chaiman and ask him what it takes to develop weapons of mass destruction, he may let you in to a secret no one else knows, than you can share it with us, but not those Taliban, promise.
Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
Security (FICA) Program. He promised:
1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary,
No longer Voluntary
2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of
the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program,
Now 7.65% on the first $90,000
3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be
deductible from their income for tax purposes each year,
No longer tax deductible
4.) That the money the participants put into the
independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the general operating fund, and
therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program,
and no other Government program, and,
Under Johnson the money was moved to The General Fund and Spent
5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never
be taxed as income.
Under Clinton & Gore Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed
Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social
Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85%
of the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put away' -- you may be
interested in the following:
------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent 'Trust Fund'
and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?
A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.
------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --
Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social
Security (FICA) withholding?
A: The Democratic Party.
------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----
Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?
A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote
as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US
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Q: Which Political Party decided to startgiving annuity payments to immigrants?
AND MY FAVORITE:
A: That's right!
Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began
to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments
to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!
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Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around
and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!
And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it! If enough people
read this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will
evolve. Maybe not, some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn't so.
Skeptical -more lies. Why is it the Republicans can only post lies? Oh right, that's all they have!
Obama/Biden 2012
seeking sanity..to dumb it down for you..democrats have selective hearing and thought process..if you dont know your political history about Social Security...dont act stupid and look the other way when the truth hits you.
The Republican Party: Taking us back nearly a century in time!
I couldn't find any evidence of these claims, so call me, well, "skeptical" without a credible source. Regardless, times change. Things change.
What Galveston, TX was able to do before Congress closed the Opt-Out from Social Security....Here is the highlight from the article:....So, don't say taking a serious look at future benefits isn't worth an honest open debate in Congress.....instead of all these claims of throwing Seniors under the bus....
"Our plan vs. Social Security
Upon retirement after 30 years, and assuming a more
conservative 5% rate of return, all workers would do better for the same
contribution as Social Security:
• Workers making $17,000 a year are expected to receive
about 50% more per month on our alternative plan than on Social Security —
$1,036 instead of $683.
• Workers making $26,000 a year will make almost double
Social Security, $1,500 instead of $853.
• Workers making $51,000 a year will get $3,103 instead of
$1,368.
• Workers making $75,000 or more will nearly triple Social
Security, $4,540 instead of $1,645.
• Our survivorship benefits pay four times a worker's
annual salary — a minimum of $75,000 to a maximum $215,000 — rather than Social
Security's customary onetime $255 survivorship to a spouse (with no minor
children). If the worker dies before retirement, the survivors receive not only
the full survivorship but get generous accidental death benefits, too.
• Our disability benefit pays 60% of an individual's
salary, better than Social Security's.
In 1980, labor unions and some traditionally liberal
Democrats provided mighty opposition. They considered taxpayer-fed Big
Government programs the only secure ones, to the exclusion of other options.
However, we held meetings that included debates with Social Security officials
and put it to a vote: Our workers passed it by a 3-to-1 margin in 1981 — just in
time.
We got our plan in place before the U.S. Congress passed a
"reform" bill in 1983 that closed the door for local governments to opt out of
Social Security.
To be sure, our plan wasn't perfect, and we've had to make
some adjustments. For instance, a few of our retired county workers are critical
of the plan today because they say they are making less money than they would
have on Social Security. This is because our plan allowed workers to make
"hardship" withdrawals from the retirement plan during their working years. Some
workers withdrew funds for current financial problems and consequently robbed
their own future benefits. We closed that option down in January 2005."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2005-03-15-benefits-reform-galveston_x.htm
Follow up article from 2011:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/us/how-privatized-social-security-works-in-galveston.html?pagewanted=all
republican/tea bag party are the defenders of rape and they lie real well. Read there posts its in black & white.
A Democrat once said, "it's the economy, stupid". So if you like unemployment, underwater mortages, $4 a gallon gas, inflation, recession, by all means don't vote for Romney.
Mike, you have left out the obvious. How much of that plan is funded by tax dollars, and how much actually comes out of the pay of the employee's? Sounds a lot like those huge benefits our representatives in governmnet "entitle" themselves with our tax dollars. Yet such a plan is impossible for all according to "deficit hawks" which you are.
Bob-1920561...(#16.7)...I'm interested in solutions, not labels like "deficit hawk" or "nanny state devotee" if you want to have a discussion:
From the 2011 Article :
"In the Alternate Plan, retirement benefits are a direct result of employee contributions. In each paycheck, employees contribute 13.9 percent of the their gross pay (6.1 percent from the employee, 7.8 percent from the county) to a private account."
________________________________
The best info on the rest of Texas Public Pensions I found was from here:
"A 1975 amendment to the Texas Constitution required the state and active members to contribute at least 6 percent of the relevant payroll to each of the Employees Retirement System of Texas and the Teacher Retirement System of Texas.[11] Under Texas law, retirees cannot get a benefit increase unless the pension funds have the assets necessary to cover their long-term obligations. Texas has never enacted an automatic yearly cost-of-living increase. The state deposits 6.95% of the employee’s salary into the ERS retirement fund; employees contribute 6.5% of their salary.
Read more: http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Texas_public_pensions#ixzz24BZ1U3AJ
A few differences I might point out is that the Galveston Plan does not keep the taxpayers of the County on the hook forever like The State Plan does....and The Galveston Plan belongs to the worker and their heirs....Certainly Not the case with Social Security...
I'm saying it looks like a good starting point to better Social Security going forward....before it goes broke.
Your social security commentary seemed a littleoff, so I did some research.
Social security contributions have NEVER been voluntary.
Wrong. The Social Security tax rate for employees is 4.2 percent through the end of the year and the Social Security tax rate for employers is 6.2 percent. No income over 110,100 is ever taxed at all.
Social security contributions were NEVER TAXABLE.
That one is true.
They're generally not taxable unless you also work. That was to keep people from abusing the system by working while still receiving benefits.
I can't personally vouch for what Franklin Roosevelt said, but considering the rampant factual errors in the rest of your argument, I have to assume you made that up too. Google if your friend. Try it next time.
Sources:
www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths.html
www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179091,00.html
ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/240/~/2012-social-security-tax-rate-and-maximum-taxable-earnings
Social security contributions were NEVER TAXABLE.
*Never "deductible"
Mike, let's start with this,,,,,"I'm saying it looks like a good starting point to better Social Security going forward....before it goes broke.", now is that "deficit hawk" theory or what? Why is it that every Federal Government Agency and Dept. can be run adding to the Federal Deficit, except two,,,Social Security and Medicare ? Why not add costs to the Federal Deficit with the signing of a law that allows for S.S. and Medicare? Because it is a political football, that is passed back and forth, and you are party to it. Raising the income limit, the eventual dying of the "boomers" and recipients who receive these, are two more practical approaches. Investing in "private" accounts gives no guarantee, as this report did not include the recession.
Did you know that many Teacher retirement funds, and many municipal workers are not entitled to S.S. , along with railroad workers. Part of the deficits that State's have now are from those same defined pensions that have not produced expected returns of 7% annually in the "private environment". Like the article says if your personal fund is "tapped early" benefits will suffer. If the Plan receives a negative return early they can not expect to make it up. A what about the vesting? Surely the first months employee would not be entitled to the same benefit of disability or death benefit as the veteran.
Mike, also the day of "risk free guareented return averaging 6.5%" annuity's is gone, that was the hay day of insurance investment and tech stocks and that is not today. Anyone would buy that today if they wanted, but are they available? No.Please find me one guarenteed,"no-risk", as the judge proclaims, annuity that you have to hold for less than ten years without a defined benefit and then I'll believe the judge. Right about that time I was getting 25% return on the money market, and mortgages were 15%,,,,, times do change my friend..
Mike, do you relise the % of contributions are not the same "In each paycheck, employees contribute 13.9 percent of the their gross pay (6.1 percent from the employee, 7.8 percent from the county) to a private account.", that is much higher than traditional S.S., so returns would be higher % .
skepticle,,,, nice job of posting garbage,,,,,,,,,, http://www.snopes.com/politics/socialsecurity/changes.asp
that stupid e-mail has gone around more times than your sister, and proven false.........wake-up deadhead.
"Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.' Abraham Lincoln
Legitimate rape?? This from an educated man??
Which is why everyone is calling for him to leave the race. Republican and Democrat alike.
Do not forget about Romney's 75 millions made off of his ABORTED FETUS DISPOSAL COMPANY. That failed a health inspection and went under
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/romney-bain-abortion-stericycle-sec
And all parties are calling him out on this stupid remark. Both Republican and Democrate. You cannot tell me no Democrate has never said anything stupit. Anyone remember what Joe Biden said in the last few weeks. Where is the decry from the Democrates on his stupid statements?
selective thought process rgmoon..only explanation..biden could say all kinds of stupid nasty remarks even belittleing obama as he did before he became vp..and yet all is forgiven..what a load of crap these people have,,newsweek cover says it all.
Democrat, not democrate. I think it's only Republicans trying to get him to drop out. Democrats are thrilled that this guy is running against Claire McCaskill. Why would they want him to go anywhere? He's hurting the Republican brand even further.
And actually, many Democrats shook their heads about Biden and commented on his ill-conceived statements. His meaning was right, but his word choice was poor. However, the sadder thing was Republicans trying to stir up African-Americans and convince them to get angry, when they weren't offended.
Spelling has never been one of my talents.
Then I guess Obama removed all doubt when he first opened his mouth.
Amy, I still think the entire GOP party is still riding the "we're not Obama" campaign and truly thinks that is enough to get them into the White House. Lately you've noticed all of the "saving" of America comments in their stumps. God knows all my family needs to be saved from is Romney in the White House!!!
And who is going to save my family from Obama in the white house?
rgmoon, if you had a thought in your head, you'd look at your dismal Congressman and Senator and ask them what the crap they've been doing for the past 4 years other than earning a 10% approval rating and better benefits than you'll see in your entire LIFE!
Last time I looked, the Democrats were in control of the senate, and in fact were also in control of the house for 2 of the past 4 years. But to add insult to injury the Democrats have been in control of the House for 46 of the past 60 years, and 40 of the past 60 in the Senate. Since that is where the legislation is passed, maybe you should be asking questions of your Congressman and Senator. That is Layton, if you have ever actually had a common sense thought in your head.
C'mon Rick...don't be so brutal. Layton won't be able to digest the truth anyway. That happens a lot on here. Show someone the facts and they keep on with the same rant regardless.
How about that new NEWSWEEK cover? Wow..."hit the road Barack"..not a mention of it anywhere on NBC's site..why is that????
And since the Republicans took the house almost two years ago they have done NOTHING except block Obama's and the Democrats' bills out of principal alone. They are absolutely worthless. The Republican minority in the senate has resorted to filibustering to block what bills manage to get through the house. If that's the track record you want us to go on to justify voting for Romney then you need to conjure up a new angle. I didn't like Obama during the first half of his term either. Then after the midterms, Obama actually started talking about the economy. I got excited as I thought things might finally start to improve. Then our brand new Republican controlled congress spoke up and the only thing they've said ever since is NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO...... So now I'm going to say NO! to Romney/Ryan and NO! to republicans for congress and the senate.
Wow Rick and bagdad, I can so feel the love. I'm glad you ARE happy with the approval rating of your Congress person and Senator. They must be doing a BANG up job for you and your family! Mine aren't and they aren't for ummmm let's see 88% of the rest of the country as reported today. As for Newsweek covers, we can handle this one .. in fact it will rally more democrats to vote. Now your guy's cover .... HYSTERICAL!!
http://newsweek.tumblr.com/post/28264293119/is-mitt-romney-a-wimp-thats-our-cover-this-week
"You can't just make stuff up"
Unless you are Harry Reid....then it is ok.
Unless you are Stephanie Cutter....then it is ok
Unless you are DWS....then it is ok.
Unless you are David Axelrod....then it is ok.
Exagerating the effects of a policy shift, is NOT the same as accusing someone of being a felon. By the way, that is on the freaking record.
Or Mitt Romney
Or Paul Ryan
They don't need no stinkin' surrogates! They'll lie straight to your face!
PS. If Cutter's remarks were slanderous,...where's the lawsuit? Fact is she gave TWO options (correctly). He's either filed false documents (a FELONY) or he's lying. Funny how he doesn't seem to want to defend his 'honor' on that one.
I am so happy to see Democrats with Elbows that they aren't afraid to throw! Makes me proud of my party!
And Mitten's has YET to deny he took the tax amnesty. Reid AND Mitt Romney may BOTH not be lying.
Romney paid NO TAX for ten years as Reid was told by an investor at Bain. THEN Mitt took the amnesty which required paying BACK TAXES and PENALTIES to avoid BEING CHARGED WITH A FELONY. These back taxes and penalties raised his tax rate to 13%.
NEITHER ONE IS LYING!
But Mittens is then a FELON!
(and don't say "But He Didn't Get Charged" - if you think THAT is a defense for a potential POTUS, please take your meds...)
And of course you can prove this trash you're talking ?
Thanks for proving the hypocrisy of the left. The subject is nasty, unprovable attacks and you just became another little Harry Reid clone.
But then you will cry waah ! waah !! waah !!! when Romney shows Obama contradicting Obama.
Jim:
Can't you READ? It is a LOGICAL CONCLUSION based on the known FACTS.
Any PROOF must come from MITT ROMNEY. He must RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS.
Until then, my LOGIC is the ONLY PROOF, in the geometric sense, WE HAVE.
Ergo. Mittens is a felon.
YOUR SIDE needs to put out the PROOF! SHOW US THE RETURNS!
'Jim' - It's Governor Romney, and President Obama - stop with the 'mittens' crap - you sound petty and uninformed. Remeber, 'civility' is the President's hallmark. Please follow his example.
If that's directed at me,...
He signed that he was the In Charge of Bain on an SEC filing. Either he WAS the in charge at Bain, making his subsequent statements a LIE - or he WASN'T the In Charge at Bain - making his signature a CRIME.
Are you choosing to be daft? Or do you find the FACTS inconvenient?
Osambo has spent the last three years making up things and his entire administrationi is a disaster.
Some people are soooo radical, their posts sound almost made up. Like for instance, they can't seem to spell names corrrectly, and it's like talking to a teenager. Some seem to be like remember the movie total recall. Well some have complete forgotten how bad things were a few years ago, like they have been brainwashed. watching to much Fox News I guess.
It's very simple!
Obama's record is one of failure!
Newsweek cover says it all!
Hit The Road Barrack!
What took him so long to say this, the world knows it and was waiting on him to call Mitt as a liar
What exactly is Mitt lying about?
Brent his taxes. He said he was audited...hhhmmmmm. Wonder what the results were? LOL
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07/30/13032341-first-thoughts-recapping-romneys-israel-stop?lite
dal...you are just making stuff up.
Even the republicans know Willard is a liar.
Sorry but the biggest liar is Obama. He has been lying since he started campaigning. He has proven over the last three years that he was not capable of being the President. I see his last year of more of the same. A waste of the taxpayers money and a failure.
Romney lies 71 % of the time and wants to change the laws so that I and everyone I know will pay $6,000 a year more while he gets a huge tax cut. But he won't show his tax returns because they probably show he took that amnesty for tax cheats in 2009.
Ayn Ryan wants to redefine rape along with Akin and Boehner. Plus he lied about the stimulus.
You can't make this stuff up!
You just did!
(Wow! A complete Flip-Flop in the same sentence! The last one above. That's gotta be a new Romney Flip-Flop Speed Record!)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/how-bad-is-the-ryan-akin-anti-abortion-bill/2012/08/20/c7e37e04-eafe-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_blog.html
BTW, That bill would be HR 212
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr212ih/pdf/BILLS-112hr212ih.pdf
Making unfounded accusations is totally unacceptable except when it is an accusation made by Democrats.
Sorry boneheads you can't have both ways.
Nope. All factual. The part about redefining rape is part of the republicon party platform and has been since 1976.
You are making things up by saying Mittwit is not a tax cheat. Prove me wrong.
Can anyone tell me what Obama plans on doing in his second term?
Anyone?
Well to start with he killed Bin Laden and ended a war...pretty good start
Depends, what will Congress (or more specifically, the House of Representatives) let him do?
That's a trick question. What second term?
dal...he hasn't started his second term....what are you talking about?
xabre...you have to propose something first. The Dem senate can't even pass a budget.
You mean pass a budget authored by the House: one full of cuts to social services but massive increases in spending to the military, and tax breaks to those at the top? Oh yeah, pocket vetoing that filth is a real travesty.
Xabre...they haven't even passed their OWN budget.
Which you honestly believe would get past the House? The same House that voted over thirty times to repeal Obamacare? You think that House would set aside political differences and compromise to make a suitable budget?
Why should the Senate propose a budget that can't even get 60 votes to pass its own chamber and if by some miracle passed the Senate, then would be shot down in the teapartying House? They decided to focus on issues where they can progress some legislation. Unlike the House, which has put how many votes up to repeal Obamacare or outlaw abortion that clearly will go nowhere and don't help the American people one bit?
Vote them out!
Obama's budget proposals have gotten how many votes from Republicans ?
Obama's budget proposals have gotten how many voted from Democrats ?
The answer is the same ....NONE, ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA !!! That's pretty damn embarassing when a President's proposal gets no support from his own party ! Where is that idiot Alan Grayson when you really need him ?
Jim you obviously do not know politics, there is no embarrassment. Google and find out why the budget gets no votes....
Navy Seals killed Bin Laden and that was only after months of stalling.
The Joint Chifs of Staff had to threaten to go public with his lack of decision making and delays for him to finally approve the operation
Going to retire in Chicago on the taxpayers dollar.
Regarding the frequent charge that President Obama has not had a "budget" passed blah, blah, blah…
What has happened without the passing of a Budget, is that Republican and Democrats have COMPROMISED by using the Continuing Resolution, which is:
PLEASE NOTE: A CR funds existing programs "at current or reduced levels."
Thus, by NOT having a budget passed, which almost ALWAYS increases Federal Spending, the Bi-Partisan CR's that President Obama has worked out with congress run the government at current or lower expense, not greater! Thank you Mr. President for NOT increasing the cost of federal government. Now you may understand why The White House has instructed ALL Democrats "Do NOT Vote For The President's Budget." It costs less to run the government under a CR.
QUESTION: Is President Obama the only president to use the CR process.
ANSWER: No. It was used very frequently from 2001 to 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuing_resolution
QUESTION: Who was president during those years?
ANSWER: George W. Bush!
ALSO: In 1995 something happened with a CR that has not yet happened to President Obama.
That hasn't happened to President Obama yet, has it. Why not? President Obama has told his own people NOT to vote for his budgets, and then dared Republicans to not pass a CR, basically saying "Go ahead. Make my day!" But the Republicans have chickened out every time!!! (Thanks Newt!)
Okay, so can we now knock-off this crap about President Obama's not having a budget passed? As Martha Stewart would say, it turns out "It's a Good Thing!"
First off, Obama didn't end any war. He pulled our combat troops out of Iraq by the date prescribed in The Joint Congressional Resolution Authorizing the Use of Force Against Iraq. In other words, he simply complied with the law.
Secondly, the decision to take out Bin Laden was a "no-brainer." Once he was located, and that took the better part of almost ten (10) years, Sponge Bob Squarepants could have, and would have given that order. (Unless you're trying to tell us that Obama actually "debated" about doing it. In which case, he should not be President!)
If Romney & Co. can't "just make stuff up" they may not have anything to say.
I think the President should look at his own ads first before saying that.
Neither would Obama.
obama makes up his collage time....he never went to harvard,or columbia..if he did..he needs to prove it..
OBAMA......who are you?????
A college degree shows up on a simple background check.
Can a person please use spell check...dont mess
don't mess with texas - well Columbia and Harvard seem to believe he went there and did very well - can you say Harvard Law Review? Of course you can't - don't even know what it is right? And YOU want to see the college records that you couldn't begin to read!
Obama/Biden 2012
don't mess - collage is a compilation of photos. My guess is you meant college. Again, why give you what you can't BEGIN to comprehend?
Obama/Biden 2012
Why have we never SEEN anything he authored as president of Harvard Law?
STEVE
Have you looked for anything, or are you waiting for someone to read it to you?
It's very "curious" that we don’t know diddly about any aspect of Obama's life (except the half-truths and outright lies), "in real time" yet they can come up with this obvious political ploy linking him to the first slave!
I want to know how his mother had a mixed-race child in 1964, and two weeks later was living on her own in Seattle with no apparent source of income (Barak Sr moved-on)
I want to know WHY he has a Connecticut SSAN, but was born in Hawaii...
I want to know how he got from Indonesia into Occidental College in LA. Where did his funding come from (rumor has it he was admitted as a foreign student)
I want to know why no one from Columbia remembers this guy from the years attended
I want to know why there is a mis-numbering of his birth certificate in Hawaii; where twin girls born a day later, have a BC number lower than his.
I want to know what the birth certificate number of the mis-carried girl, that lived for a day or so; born between him and the aforementioned twins is. It could explain the mis-numbering, or it could prove that the deceased baby's SSAN was hijacked. The child's mother, a staunch democrat won't give it up. Interestingly is that she recently became "quite comfortable" in life!
I want to know why the father's race was indicated as "African" on his short form BC, when the nomenclature of the day; right or wrong was "Negro!" (African was not incorrect; just non-standard)
I want to know why anyone can accept an apparent forgery of the short-form birth certificate (as many
experts have testified), and not be the least bit curious WHY (especially given the other anomalies above), WHY you don't think it's at least reasonable to ask for the long-form?
But the real crux of the issue is that we don't know a lot about this cat at all! His influences; his radical connections, his apparent need to cave the financial system in a Cloward & Piven manner; that is, to overwhelm the public welfare system in such a manner that it collapses from the sheer weight! C&P were Columbian professors BTW! Equally interesting is that food stamps and public assistance has grown outrageously large under his,,,,,,"administration!"
If you haven't figured it out yet, most of the "new organizations" where people info from are totally, and unabashedly in the tank for this cat.
But it's great that we know he descended from the first slave on his mother's side! But then again, 800 million Asians can trace their lineage to Ghingas Khan..... So BIG deal!?!
But now this guy is saying "ya just can't make stuff up" yet his entire history is contrived. I just about choked on my coffee reading this.
America,,,you're totally stupid if you vote for him again!!!
DON'TMESS
You are are just what people expect in a Romney/Ryan Supporter.......an uneducated follower.
Prove that President Obama didn't go to Harvard, you seem to be the only one that knows that.
"A lie travels halfway around the world before the truth even has its shoes on..." --unknown
The web/internet is possibly the most powerful tool for self-education that the world has ever seen. Used properly, will learn that:
1. You have never seen anything he authored as president of Harvard Law because Barack Obama was not the president of Harvard Law. He was first the editor and then the president of The Harvard Law Journal, one of the most highly respected legal journals in the country (by Republicans as well as Democrats).
2. He graduated from Harvard Law magna cum laude (meaning "with great honor") with a doctorate in law and taught Constututional Law at the University of Chicago School of Law for 12 years before even entering into politics (John Kennedy was also a Harvard graduate -- but he only earned a bachelor's degree in international studies and only graduated cum laude, meaning "with honor").
I don't care what your politics are or how highly evolved your ideas re: diversity are -- not just anybody can put together that kind of easily cross-checked and confirmed resume. Steve -- I'm not sure whether you're misstating the facts out of ignorance or convenience, but neither case is forgivable. Ignorance can be remedied in less than 15 minutes using the very tool you've used to try to demean the President, and convenience... if you're letting someone else think so you don't run the risk of finding out your agenda's got a fatal flaw, one can only wonder whether the Voter ID laws are being applied to the wrong demographics...
AC
PTI,
@steve-446003, It's the Harvard Law Review, and he was it's first African-American to be in that capacity. Not the president of Harvard. BTW why don't you and texsas (ever heard of a background check), go and find one . You might not like it if it doesn't contain pictures. You two certainly couldn't understand the it otherwise. Jeepers what buffoons.
So what do we call the ex-birthers who are now asking for Obama's college documents?
After birthers?
post-partum birthers
Willard didn't pay any US income taxes - if he did he needs to prove it
Maybe folks like you who are "just making this stuff up" should cite facts and proof - instead of just blowing hot air out you a$$