Of course he'll stay in the race. Politicians have no sense of dignity or responsibility to the public office anymore.

Don't forget that Ryan co-sponsored a bill with Akin to redefine rape so that you could not get an abortion in cases of incest, grooming, etc....... hence the term "legitimate rape".

Notice how quiet Ryan is being on this one.

There is no war on women. Conservatives just think that women are magical and can naturally end a pregnancy when necessary.

Stay with it Akin! Don't let them talk you out of this race! You are now one of the most important spokesmen for your party!

What does it say about the people who will vote for him if he stays in the race?

"The views expressed were offensive. Rape is rape," said Obama. "And the idea that we should be parsing and qualifying and slicing what types of rape we're talking about doesn't make sense to the American people. And certainly doesn't make sense to me."

Thank you Mr. President! It will be interesting to see how the GOP will try to create distance between Akin and Ryan given their co-sponsorship of bill H.R. 3, “No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act,” which initially included language which changed the definition of “rape” to “forcible rape." (I'm guessing forcible rape is legitimate rape?!?!?!)

GTy - if a woman just closes her eyes and clicks her ruby slippers - oh wait, that's not about pregnancy!

Let Akin run - it's just better for McCaskill. Is it surprising that the GOP isn't calling for Akin's head?

Obama/Biden/McCaskill/Duckworth! 2012

Akin pledges to stay in race...

Until he is force to step down, tomorrow morning once the GOP king makers are finished kicking him in the ass.

Akin's comments we "inexcusable!" The worst part is the republican party is full of these kind of ignorant people. They are called teabuggers

"I made that statement in error. Let me be clear: rape is never legitimate; it's an evil act that's committed by violent predators," Akin said on former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's radio show. "I used the wrong words in the wrong way. What I said was ill-conceived and it was wrong, and for that, I apologize."

Let ME be clear: Todd Akin is an idiot. He is stupid, dumb, brainless and inept. Furthermore, he has NO business representing a single woman, let alone the women of his entire congressional district.

If he were a REAL man, if he had cojones that were any bigger than peas, he would apologize for his stupidity and drop out of the race, immediately.

We need more useless idiots in government like we need more holes in our heads. How can someone so lacking in basic intelligence even be trusted to cross the street?

If he actually does stay in the race as he says he will, I hope he loses by the biggest landslide in the history of Missouri politics. Make that happen, women of the Show Me State!

Let's face it. The GOP does not trust in women's ability to decide for themselves. A woman is raped and them she is forced to carry the rapists child. Sorry, but I can't think of anything more traumatic and inhumane. Once the child is born no one really cares, she is an immoral single mother after all. The guy might spend 5 years in jail, you will be tried twice in a he said/she said trial if at all, them you get to spend the next 18 years raising his child. Sorry, but pure cruelty for a woman to have to face that. Everyone is always talking about small government, but they want to dictate what we do with our bodies. No way! A woman should be able to make these decisions with her doctor, not her senator!

Of COURSE he is staying in! God bless the man, it is heaven's decree! He has come to save us all!

Anyone who votes for this cretin ought to be embarrassed and ashamed. He hates women, he has made that clear.

The Republican Party is not interested in moving this country forward. They are only interested in making sure that women know their place.....barefoot and pregnant, and not competing for jobs with their incompetent men.

Hey, at least he apologized and didn't try to galvanize some sort of a defense to his moronic statement.

Personally he shouldn't be able to bail out of the race - The people in his State voted in their primary for this Neanderthal and now need to make a decision to either vote for him or his opponet or not at all. This is why people really need to research and make sure that they are vetted prior to running for office. Elections have consequences - just like if "God forebid" Romeny gets in what type of Judge do you think he will appoint to the SCOTUS?

If your a woman and vote GOP you must check the box 'breeding stock' when asked your sex.

It wasn't too many years ago that women could not vote. It wasn't too many years before that when women were considered a mans property.

This is women's freedom 101. The GOP would fundamentally deny you.

This is real, this is how they think, do you get it yet?

ChitownMatt

Hey, at least he apologized and didn't try to galvanize some sort of a defense to his moronic statement.

Too little too late, some remarks are unforgivable, Matt.

So 2 GOP Republican senators call for Akin to abandon his race but the presumptive head of the party and its nominee for the highest office in the land fails to do so. Way to show leadership, Mitt.

I would be interested in knowing how many of these Republicans that are now quickly distancing themselves from Todd Akins voted for the bill he co-sponsored with Paul Ryan that introduced the term "forcible rape".

They remind me of a bunch of cockroaches scurrying for cover when the light is turned on.

Rape by definition is forcible, whether actual physical force is used or not. In their quest to totally eliminate a woman's right to choose, almost the entire Republican party embraced this legislation that created different levels of rape.

Apparently statuatory rape and incest are not considered "forcible" rape, so the victim would be forced to carry the fetus/baby to term.

I find it especially hypocritical that the supposed party of "small government" think that they, not the victims or their doctors, should decide whether a rape is "forcible" enough for them to qualify for an abortion.

Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!

Why not stay in? Akin has the same views on women's right as the vice president nominee, Paul Ryan... They voted together on a bill in congress limiting a woman's rights to their own bodies...

I'll never understand why a bunch of old men in congress, make laws concerning the health of women...

We (the people) should be able to do better than that...

yeah what he said was totally wrong and the SB should step down but....Let me get this straight MSN hammers a Rep on this comment immediatley but you see nothing about Biden telling a bunch of people of mixed race at a lecture that Romney is going to put them back in chains? Slanted crap

A thoughtless comment by Akin but, if there was a hurricane hitting Florida, this would be yesterday's news aready. It's not like he just surprised everyone with a never-before mentioned pro-life stance. He needs a thesaurus.

Both parties get to posture, now. Mr. Obama's camp must be extra thrilled...something other than the economy and his other failures in the news.

Wayne-1656909

Stay with it Akin! Don't let them talk you out of this race!

yes Akin, stay with your idiotic statement that: It seems to me first of all from what I understand from doctors that's really rare. it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

First, I don't understand how anyone could be stupid enough to think it, never mind say it out loud.

Second, I don't understand how anyone is stupid enough to support a moron like Akin!

I think what he is saying that women can retroactively take birth control to prevent pregnancy, but only if she really didn't want it.

Cindy, one of my biggest concerns for my country is the fact that people ARE actually voting for people like Akin, Bachmann, Palin, and a host of other not very intelligent candidates. It is getting scary. It's one thing to have intelligent discourse on issues, but another matter entirely to have to deal with intentionally uninformed people.

Of course he'll stay in. After all, he has EXACTLY THE SAME VIEWS regarding "forcible rape" that the current nominee for VP on the Republican ticket has. EXACTLY THE SAME VIEWS on women and control over their bodies.

you are not wanted, akin. let the 24 hour gop shark feed begin!

Too little too late, some remarks are unforgivable, Matt.

You mean like "They're going to put y'all back in chains." Right, Wade?

Idiots abound on both sides of the aisle my friend.

Clowns, you are wrong, they did hammer Vice President Biden. Look at Fox News, and all the other Conservatives rants.

And, you know as well as I do, President Biden, was stating a fact that if things do not change we will be chained to Wall Streets and Banks again. Read for yourself. Do not listen to Fox News.

Eric-913730

Don't forget that Ryan co-sponsored a bill with Akin to redefine rape so that you could not get an abortion in cases of incest, grooming, etc....... hence the term "legitimate rape".

Notice how quiet Ryan is being on this one.

Eric,

I also noticed Ryan didn't mention that voucher plan when he threw his mother under the bus in Florida.

Wonder why the media is not talking about Ryan specifically not discussing his voucher plan?

New Republican standard..Tax Cheats and Pro Rape

Clowns, that story was COVERED when it happened. News moves on as more news occurs. Just because FOX likes to harp on a story over and over and over (beating the proverbial dead horse) when it comes to Democrats doesn't mean that the REAL news media has to follow in the footsteps of the ENTERTAINMENT channel's lead.

A follow up question Mr. Akin:

Should a women be forced to marry her rapist? I mean, I can't quote chapter and verse but isn't that it the Bible to which you are such a fanatical adherent to? A simple yes or no will suffice.

Matt - that isn't what he said at all. Read his comments. According to Akin if a woman is "LEGITIMATELY" raped her body will keep her from getting pregnant. Did you not understand the words????

Obama/Biden 2012 to keep the neanderthals out of leadership!

Akin first told KTVI-TV on Sunday: “First of all, from what I understand from doctors, [pregnancy from rape] is really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."

For instance: jumping of a cliff or tall building

trying to swim accross the pacific ocean

skydiving with no parachute.............................What an IDIOT!

it's not about birth control. it's about pr!ck control! look up ryan akin bill to define their term "legitimate rape" who does ryan back out of this?

slightlyold

And, you know as well as I do, President Biden, was stating a fact that if things do not change we will be chained to Wall Streets and Banks again. Read for yourself. Do not listen to Fox News.

slightlyold,

The GOP (Greedy One Percent) was chosen by FOX NEWS REPUBLICAN HEADQUARTER because "MYTH" ROMNEY admits that he likes to fire people, that his wife drives two Cadillacs, that corporations are people, and that he's not concerned about the poor.

F0X NEWS: it deceives and it's nation of idiots believe

Akin needs to step down. This is very unfortunate for the rest of us in Missouri that want to support a GOP candidate but will not be supporting Akin. And I definitely will not be supporting McCaskill either. Akin needs to step down and get out of the way, otherwise, fiscally conservative Republicans in Missouri will have little choice in this election as we are left with a choice to vote for a tax dodger and Obama surrogate in McCaskill or an idiot, socially conservative Akin.

The Tea Party needs to stay focused on fiscal issues, those that really matter regarding the survival of our democracy, not divisive social issues. The latter are the playground of the President, stay on issues of substance like the economy, unemployment, and the unsustainable level of spending and our national debt.

This is what independent voters care about, not what goes on in your bedroom or your church. If social issues are that important to you run for Pope but not Congress or the Senate.

kinda makes ya wonder how many women (or men?) he's legitimately raped, doesn't it?

His belief is pregnancy can't happen if she puts on her magic underwear.

Oops, my mistake wrong Republican.

"I feel just as strongly as ever that my background and ability will be a big asset in replacing Claire McCaskill and putting some sanity back in what's going on in our government," Akin said

Really, well $hit for brains, you just lost the election on shear stupidity! Anymore great words of wisdom that you would like to spew from your pie-hole? Here is an idiot who speaks the truth and then recants it, as though he really doesn't believe that, riiiiiiiiight! With those kinds of "assets" you have to offer did you happen to offer your services as First Mate on the Titanic? You realize this is the 21st Century and not the Dark Ages, right? Where do they get these idiots? Well, there is one thing for sure, this country has plenty of idiots on both sides of the political spectrum.

Does it bother anyone that Akin is on the House Tech and Science Committee? And this is what he thinks women's bodies can do--shut down the process of egg fertilization? Bear in mind, this is just ONE belief that he holds... and that he shares with Ryan. What are the other misconceptions floating through his skull (along with some incapacitated and misfiring neurons)?

Akin was just a few baby steps away from being a major influence to the possible future President of the United States before this remark--before he exposed himself for the ignorant misogynist that he is.

Ryan is standing side by side with Romney, worked with Akin last year on redefining "forcible rape," and there is the edge of possibility that he could also be the President of the United States, should Romney be hired and then suffer an accident or illness.

Does this scare anyone as much as it scares me?

Even his apology demonstrated his ignorance. Not all rapes are "committed by violent" predators. Predators? Absolutely! Violent? Usually, pedophiles groom their victims and do not require violence to obtain their goal. They prey on children that have regard for authority and/or are troubled and in need of attention. Incest is another matter. Would you expect a child to carry to term the off spring of her father. My mother is also my sister??? His ignorance knows no bounds and he is not fit to represent anyone in the human race. This is a matter of choice between a woman and her physcian and has no place in govt.. What a total ignorant loser. He really needs an education about child abuse, rape, and what it means to the woman/girl that suffers. It is very dangerous for a child to have a child. Childbirth is not for sissies. He needs to crawl back under the rock he slithered out of.

Sadly, it is not even a case of believing in something and holding your tongue when talking on camera. It is a case that he has actually considered the term legitimate rape. I didn't even know the concept existed prior to this morning.

I'm glad he is currently serving in the House or Reps. His ouster from the country is better for us all and his replacement, R or D will be undoubtedly better.

"And my belief is we're going to take this thing forward, and by the grace of God, to win this race."

I sure am glad god is looking out for the Republicons and their high morals.

So, it is ok for Biden and Obama to say something that liberal posters here are calling "taking out of context" when attacked by Romney, but it is in perfect context when a Republican makes a mistake with his words?

Got to love the double standard here!

If anything, Akin's apology should have been along the lines of, "I apologize for not being fully informed about the reproductive abilities of the females of our species, for taking heresay and rumor as evidence and proof that pregnancy can be naturally avoided through willpower, and for being a dumb sh*t for both thinking and saying such a misguided belief. I also apologize for my attempts to control the entire female population of the United States by directing bills and measures to keep their bodies out of their control, and in the control of the government--and yes, I know that my party advocates less government in personal life, so I must also apologize for my hypocrisy in that area as well. Thank you."

If Romney heard about Akin's statement he probably would say that those wouldn't be the words he would use.

Dude from nowhere--Akin believed that a woman could "shut down" her ability to get pregnant. That's not misspeaking. That's blatant ignorance and stupidity coming from a member of the House SCIENCE AND TECH COMMITTEE, not to mention downplaying the brutality of rape for the sake of his precious abortion bill.

There is no "out of context" here. Akin demonstrated a blindingly ignorant belief in biological functions while simultaneously trying to justify controlling a nation of women and their bodies.

It used to be that the GOP's in office kept these types of feelings to themselves. Now they are just coming right out with it and I have to say, I appreciate it! Now we can see what they really believe and how they feel and their utter disregard for women and their rights. Keep it coming.

Bad damage control trying to say he didnt understand that women could get pregnant by legitimate rape. And to add the part that "a womans body will do whatever to get rid of it" is utter baffoon-ary! How is he in office? To flip to the other side: I hope everyday that obama-lama-ding-dong up there would stop speaking to the press on behalf of the american public. I was never asked, I never gave input and I sure would not try and give him any information that he would just use to better propel himself forward.

We are screwed in November no matter what may God have mercy on our souls.

Well, this will certainly help Mccaskill keep her spot! And that's good for just about everyone :)

This would just be a story about an idiot politician from Missouri, and would be taken as isolated case of a backwoods fanatic, but it is not an isolated case the republican party has these nutjobs in all kinds of places trying and in some cases passing legislation that imposes their personal religious views on women. This is national news because the republican has gone national with this agenda of trying to muck up Roe V Wade and the fact that a women has the choice to terminate a pregnancy if she so desires. This is what these people think, he was asked a question he answered it without the aid of prepared talking points, and as usual republicans want to blame the media for asking the question, and not the idiotic answer given by a six term politician. It amazes me just how stupid some of these politicians really are, is it any wonder that they let the lobbyists write the legislation for them. We should require some kind of an IQ test, or an SAP for national office. This guy wants to write reproductive rights legislation, and thinks that a women's body has the ability to shut her system down in the case of rape, do they even teach sex education in Missouri, do they teach biology in high school. I hope this guy does stay in the race, it will be great news for Democrats locally in Missouri and nationally, let him speak, he makes the case for voting against republicans better than any democrat could. I will say one thing a lot of his fellow republicans have no problem with the idea of aborting his senate campaign in it's fetal stage, I guess he is suddenly a bit of an unwanted pregnancy they would prefer not to bring to full term, but Akin says hey fellows remember "I'm a politician not a choice".

Hey, Conservative Republican here.

Mr. Akin is not a serious man and is unfit for public office.

DROP OUT.

Todd Akin says " And my belief is we're going to take this thing forward, and by the grace of God, to win this race." Todd, do you really expect God, will give you the grace for casting war against women?

Akin is just a typical, dictating, radical, republican, as they all are. Akin just did their talking for them, on the big stage and got caught. Now they will spin the spin and say, "it was taken out of context, by the liberals and that was not what he said at all." Missourians, nominated him, but they surely WILL NOT ELECT HIM. How can any woman or any man, who loves his wife, mother, daughter, or sister, cast a vote for a man, who hates women?

This is mainstream, Republican thinking.

So, if you are raped and conceive, you weren't "legitimately raped?"

Vote all of the anti-women, Party of No out in November.

@ StandUp

If you read the whole quote, he said:

"First of all, from what I understand from doctors, [pregnancy from rape] is really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."

(bolded part was to help you with my point)

He was given bad (possible) advice from some doctors. This was not his personal ramblings, this was information he was given and repeating.

At least with Obama and Biden, they didn't reference anything when Obama said "the private sector is fine" or "you didn't build that" or when Biden recently said that banks were "going to put ya'll in chains." Those were their own words, their opinions, speaking at the time.

Akin was just repeating what he was told. He was given bad advice and should have looked further into it before repeating it in public. People should know the difference between speaking of one's mind and speaking with somebody else's mind...

And to think that barbaric Right wingers are actually defending this monstrosity?

How could any woman vote Party of No?

Eric-913730 Don't forget that Ryan co-sponsored a bill with Akin to redefine rape so that you could not get an abortion in cases of incest, grooming, etc....... hence the term "legitimate rape".

Notice how quiet Ryan is being on this one.

Grant you, Akin's remarks were despicable. But FYI, HR Bill 3 had 227 co-sponsored and those included Democrats. The Bill was revised 3 times HR358IH (the first change) changed two words, none of which had anything to do with "not" getting an abortion for rape or incest.

The amendment as originally written:

Excludes from such prohibitions an abortion if: (1) the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest; or (2) the woman suffers from a physical disorder, injury, or illness, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself, that would place her in danger of death unless an abortion is performed, as certified by a physician.

changed to:

except--`(A) if the pregnancy occurred because the pregnant female was the subject of an act of forcible rape or, if a minor, an act of incest; or

`(B) in the case where a pregnant female suffers from a physical disorder, physical injury, or physical illness that would, as certified by a physician, place the female in danger of death unless an abortion is performed, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself.

Two words. Understand the majority of Congress members are Lawyers so they all have to make it a legal as they possibly can! One, incest usually only occurs to a minor who has no defense against an adult. But a lawyer would think oh my an adult who can make that decision might claim incest so we better clarify this. Unfortunately there are some women that claim they were raped just to get back at the man. Making it much harder for women who have been raped. Adding Forcible would mean that it had to be proved in a court of law that the woman was indeed raped. Again a lawyers way of thinking.

You need to read the Bills before you make a comment on them. You would have found that not only did Republican's support it, Democrats supported it also and what you were state is totally false.

In the immortal words of Forrest Gump, "Stupid is as stupid does."

It's not that the GOP doesn't trust women, it's that the GOP does not care about women. They are still pining for the 'barefoot and pregnant' days. Educated women are scary to them.

How refreshing that we have politicians that stand up for the right things......even if means a black-eye for your own political party.

Way to go Republicans.....Liberals could stand to learn a lesson here!

Romney/Ryan 2012!

He was given bad (possible) advice from some doctors. This was not his personal ramblings, this was information he was given and repeating.

Except he couldn't actually name any of the doctors who gave him that little gem of "scientific information." He's an idiot and a liar, nothing more.

Republicans, keep em barefoot and pregnant. Don't really care how they get pregnant.

...and it shows how ignorant Republicans will continue to support their party no matter how misguided and truly unapologetic that those individuals might be...

Dude from Nowhere, go back where you came from.

"I feel just as strongly as ever that my background and ability will be a big asset in replacing Claire McCaskill and putting some sanity back in what's going on in our government," Akin said "

Only a sane person would question where Mr. Akin expects to find the SANITY he proposes to bring back, because it clearly isn't something HE POSSESSES !

If I were him...

I would get Dave Vitter & his shadow (it that wonderful dress again), Larry Craig, Mark Foley & Clarence Thomas together, make a support commercial & spend millions making sure every home in America was bombarded with it for weeks on end.... and thus I could kill the GOP singlehandedly !

When you HAVE NO MIND, it 's best if you don't try to speak what's on it.... but that has never stopped a conservative from trying or a Liberal from laughing at them for doing so .

@CLB, the word "forcible rape" is the devil in the details. What about rapes that aren't "forcible" but where grooming etc. is part of the equation.

I stand by my comments.

Ryan is against abortion even in rape and incest cases.

I hear tell they'll be asking him to drop from the race. But they are standing behind their Holy-land Skinny Dipping Tea Baggican. :)

Unfortunately Mr. Akin has been my U.S. Representative for the past 12 years. I did not vote for him, never would because this is not the first idiotic thing he's said in public. I am sure people who have voted for him have not listened to this man speak, if they did I don't see how they could have ever elected him once, and certainly not 6 times. They just automatically voted for someone with an (R) after his name, but he's been a complete embarrassment to Missouri these past 12 years.

Yep, GOP just pulled funding for Akin in his senate race.

Now every time I see Akin all I can hear in my head is the banjo music from Deliverance.

Da a da da do dee ding ding ding!

Females of certain mammalian species, notably rabbits (there may be others but I'm not sure of those at the moment) can spontaneously reabsorb a fetus into their bodies if the time isn't 'right'--the colony is overcrowded, there is insufficient food available, they are in the middle of migration, etc. and therefore prevent production of offspring at a time when it would be dangerous to the collective colony to do so. It is scientific fact, and it has been documented in nonfiction and in fiction such as Richard Adams' book 'Watership Down'.

In the novel quoted above it anthropomorphizes rabbit colonies and relationships, ascribing to the rabbits in the story human characteristics. One female rabbit is raped and her body reabsorbs the fetus. However, important note; this is FICTION and the story is about RABBITS.

Dear Representative Akin;

I don't know where you you got the information that a human female is capable of shutting down reproductive processes in instances of rape, but the information itself is erroneous and flawed. While trauma, stress, emotional issues arising from financial and economic instability from an unwanted pregnancy MAY cause a miscarriage, it is not common and does not happen often. One needs only to look at the women in the deportation camps in Germany of the 30's to see the numbers of female internees who became pregnant due to rape by the camp guards, which are well-documented. You need only to look up cases of young children, as young as nine or ten, who give birth to the children of their molesters, to see the reality.

We who have experienced the trauma of rape, either with or without children, would like to invite you to sit down and talk to us. Get to know us. Visit a battered women's shelter, talk to rape crisis counselors, look at the statistics. Please feel free to bring whatever medical professional advised you so that he/they too can be informed of the reality of rapes resulting in births.

Thank you.

In Missouri raping sheep is legitimate. Puleeze, throw these ignorant Teapublicans out!

@flbikerchick

Was Akin publically asked? If so, can you provide proof to that assumption?

@StandUp

You have decided who you are going to vote for, as has I.

But I'm not the one making a mountain out of a molehill. Nor was I who was vocal about any of Biden and Obama's "mistakes."

I'm just showing you that the door swings both ways. You can't have one standard by assuming a second standard. I'm just pointing out the double standards the liberal media and several liberal posters on this website have. That way, nobody would take their words seriously (if anyone still does anymore).

It is better to find out the facts of the world by looking at both sides of the coin. If you only look at one side of the argument, you blind yourself to see the reality of the world.

Michael1969

How refreshing that we have politicians that stand up for the right things......even if means a black-eye for your own political party. Way to go Republicans.....Liberals could stand to learn a lesson here! Romney/Ryan 2012!

Yes.... the GOP standing up for the right things...

1. Legitmate Rape: Check
(War on Women)

2. Don't care about the very poor: Check Check.
(War on the lower and middle class)

3. Corporations are people/Lower taxes on the wealth: Check x3...
(GOP Socialism: redistribution of wealth from the lower/middle class to the rich and corporations)

I have looked at both sides of the coin. I have yet to find one Democrat that believes in spontaneous abortion over an unwanted pregnancy.

Or, to bring Rush Limbaugh into it, I have yet to hear one Democrat say that you have to take birth control pills every single time you have sex.

The GOP is proving itself to be a shameful party for women to belong to, due to the high ignorance and judgmental standpoint that they hold towards our gender.

As a former Republican voter, this is exactly why I will NEVER vote Republican again!

Another shining example of these insane TPers taking over the GOP. And to think Paul Ryan, the GOP VP prospect, actually co-sponsored the 'legitimate rape' bill with Akin speaks volumes of the RWNJ character of Ryan AND Romney.

Ladies, 'Remember in November' and vote OUT all the GOP. And NO HOW NO WAY to Romney/Ryan!!!!

Michael, so lying is "standing up for the right thing?"

Hmmm, Akin states in his 'apology,' "Let me be clear: rape is never legitimate; it's an evil act that's committed by violent predators..."

So if if rape is committed by 'violent predators' and the masses of the populous agree that rape is an 'act of violence' then why the need to add the word 'forcible' in that law?

This guy will fight the stay in for a while and once he realizes this was 'political suicide' he will end up walking away. I, for one, hope he stay's in the race and is soundly defeated by people voting to not accept someone like this.

The Republican party USED to mean something in this country. It USED to vote for things that would help out the citizens of the United States. Now it votes strictly along party lines, and woe to the Republican that doesn't fall in lock-step with the rest of the group.

I see the liberal hate is still strong on this site.

It is clear from what he said that his 'legitimate rape' statement was meant to divide thought between actual rape and women who decide they didn't want sex after the fact (i.e. the next morning they decide it was a mistake, so they claim it was rape). The first are victims of a horrible assault, but the very fear, stress, and horror of that assault releases chemicals into their blood system that severely decrease the odds of an embryo implanting on their womb. This is what he was talking about. This makes rape pregnancies rare, but not impossible.

The second are an unfortunate result of the modern feminism movements, telling women they have the right to decide whatever they want about anything involving their bodies whenever they want, even after the fact. This is only one of the most extremist edges of feminism, but it is real and prosperous in America today nonetheless.

Finally, the real issue at hand should not be how the woman got pregnant, but whether the embryo/fetus/child is a human life with human rights or not. If it isn't, the Right's arguments are flat out ridiculous. If it is, the Left's arguments are flat out monstrous. Do you want to know what's worse than forcing a raped woman to carry her rapists child to terms? Murdering an innocent baby because it's father did something wrong.

The fact that the mother was raped, and even the fact that the mother may suffer psychological pain and suffering to bring the baby into the world is very unfortunate, but it doesn't excuse murder. If the mother brought the baby to term, gave birth to it, and THEN decided to strangle it, we'd all agree she should either go to prison or a mental ward, the rape not withstanding. Of course, all of that is only if the child IS a human being with human rights.

All of that aside, though, I know nothing about the man himself, his policies, or his history. He may well be a complete jerk who's only in it for the money.

“No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act,” which initially included language which changed the definition of “rape” to “forcible rape." (I'm guessing forcible rape is legitimate rape?!?!?!)

I think it's the other way around.

Warning: there are some horrible ideas below, so prepare to be disgusted. But that -is- how they think.

Remember, according to them, rape isn't a crime against the woman, it's against the man who owns the woman. Illegitimate rape is when some OTHER man, aside from her owner, rapes the woman. Legitimate rape is when her owner has sex with her without her consent. Since they are such nice compassionate people, this kind of disturbs them, but being small-government folk, they don't really think it is their place to interfere in the family so they look away with heavy hearts.

Of course, they will nicely sugarcoat 'owner' to something else, but that's what it boils down to.

Mr. Akin's sin is that he told he truth. Nothing more.

So a woman traumatized by a brutal rape (possibly both anal and vaginal), and (for the sake of argument) a severe beating, after spending time in a hospital and encountering a mountain of medical bills, must then spend the next nine months carrying her rape-baby around just because YOU don't want its life taken?

Are YOU going to provide that mother with physical therapy and psychological counseling to help her get over that horrific incident? Are YOU going to take her into your home, give her food and clothing, pay for her prenatal vitamins, check-ups, and provide transportation to and from those appointments? Are YOU going to be there to supplement her income when she can no longer work? Are YOU going to pay for the birth and any surgery that may be necessary (i.e. Caesarian), as well as taking care of the infant if it is premature? And above all, are YOU going to take that baby into your home when she cannot bear to look at it, after carrying an unwanted pregnancy around for nine months, because every time she looks into its eyes, she sees her attacker?

An innocent stranger's question of, "Oh, how far along are you?" will then bring the answer to the mother's mind, "I was raped x months ago." Is that fair, too? To live with that burden?

Is it also fair that the U.S. Government--whom the Republican party INSISTS should not interfere in daily life any more than it already has ("less government!" is the cry, is it not?)--can decide that a woman in every circumstance of an unwanted pregnancy should keep that child inside her?

Dude,

It doesn't matter if he claims he was given bad information from a 'doctor' or not. He is still an idiot. People are supposed to have his own brain so when a person tells them they rode a magical unicorn to the happy world of talking squirrels, we look at them like morons. Just like how we are looking at Akin.

Maybe he thinks that God only impregnates married or slutty women.

@ Dude from Nowhere, "He was given bad (possible) advice from some doctors."

You mean like Granny who was considered to be a "doctor" on the Beverly Hillbillies".

Give me a break this guy worked with Ryan on legislation on this subject, this is not a new subject, or haphazardly formed views for this man, Geezus, republicans put him on the Tech and Science committee. Is it any wonder why China and other countries are starting to kick our technological ass, they teach science guys like Akin want to teach Adam and Eve as science.

I see the liberal hate is still strong on this site.

It is clear from what he said that his 'legitimate rape' statement was meant to divide thought between actual rape and women who decide they didn't want sex after the fact (i.e. the next morning they decide it was a mistake, so they claim it was rape)

Liberal hate, huh? And do you suppose there are any women who decide they don't want sex, but are still forced into it by physical and emotional intimidation? That is legitimate sex, right?

Gawd, some people! We have spent thousands of years clawing ourselves out of the muck and trying to become civilized and they want to drag us right back into the filth.

Think it through. This isn't just about some women who refused to have sex with you despite the fact that you bought her a drink. Do none of you have daughters, mothers, sisters?

He is still an idiot.

He might be an idiot, but he is also the most truthful man in the Republican party today. This used to be the party of fiscal responsibility, personal responsibility, duty to one's nation, about honor, decency and the American way.

Governor Romney's father marched with MLK. And now look at them.

How the mighty have fallen....

What the hell is a legitament rape? Is this guy crazy or what? He said that "you should go after the rapist and not the child". First of all thank God it's never happened to me, but if it would've happened, I would get an abortion because it won't be fair to the child which was not concieved out of love, and would always be a terrible reminder of what happened, and there are enough children in this world concieved that way in which a woman is forced to give up her rights because some bird brain idiotic polititions says it's wrong to get an abortion. Are these idiots going to take resposibility for these unwanted children?

This is indicative of a failed education system in the United States. People don't
understand how to diagram a sentence or understand proper English grammar.
"Legitimate" an adjective that modifies the noun "rape"... Legitimate rape means the same thing as rape... Congressman Akin use is grammatically correct...

The detractors’ want you to think that Congressman Akin believes that rape is
legitimate, that's clearly not what he said... These detractors really need to
go back to school and learn English... And respectfully I question their
ability to govern or hold high office, if they are struggling with Basic English
skills...

I hold that it should be the woman's right to choose abortion for one simple reason:

YOU CANNOT CONTROL OTHER PEOPLE'S SINS.

You are not God and you are not the Supreme Lawmaker on earth. Whatever someone does to themselves or others, that is something that will be on their head.

StandUp, Yes it does bother me that Akin is on the House Science and Technology Committee, just as it bothers me that Bachman is on the Intelligence Committee. What is going on here?

Dude from nowhere...

He was given bad (possible) advice from some doctors. This was not his personal ramblings, this was information he was given and repeating.

Can you imagine what the doctor(s) who "supposedly" told him this are doing right now... probably rolling on the floor laughing. And if a doctor did tell him this and he/she steps up to back his claim, how long do you think it will take until that doctor is barred from practice?

Stay with it Akin! Don't let them talk you out of this race! You are now one of the most important spokesmen for your party!

I really hope this is sarcasm.

C. Smith said;

the real issue at hand should not be how the woman got pregnant, but whether the embryo/fetus/child is a human life with human rights or not.

I don't know if you saw the story that was on the news over the weekend. A 16 year old girl in the Dominican Republic as diagnosed with leukemia--at the same time she found out she was 9 weeks pregnant. Because they have a very strict no-abortion policy there, they define life as beginning at the moment of conception. The doctors refused to give her chemotherapy for the leukemia because it would kill the baby. Late last week she went into early labor due to complications from the untreated leukemia, miscarried, then went into cardiac arrest also because of leukemia complications, and died.

What would you have done?

Sick minds stand together. Michael and Akins. You've got to be kidding man!

If Claire McCaskill loses the US Senate race to this imbecile, in November, the people of the state of Missouri may just as well dispense with any hope that their fellow Americans will look at them as serious, intelligent citizens.

This bonehead does NOT represent the people, or mindset of the good people of Missouri. Missouri voters should set aside partisanship in this election and not embarrass their state by electing this buffoon. I know in my heart that Missourians are smart, insightful and introspective Americans who want the best for their state and our country. So ... show me.

Wait, did I read that correctly? In his apology did he really say rape is never legitimate? His mouth would be better off remaining closed.

At least as offensive as his statement was the logic behind it and it's intended goal. The fact is there is a large contingent of Republicans who think that there is no legitimate reason for abortion. These predominately male politicians have suggested that a woman and even girls should be forced by penalty of arrest must carry a child that was the result of rape or incest to term. There was even one who claimed that if raped the victim was given a "lemon" and by carrying this fetus to term would be making "lemonade". And this mouthbreather is a woman. Ryan and Romney have both voiced support for or sponsored "Personhood" laws that would make them all become sidewalk lemonade vendors.

There should have been no hesitation or qualification behind the response of the campaign. Both Romney and Ryan should have stood tall and denounced this moron and demanded he leave the governing of the country to thinking people. This man is part of the party they represent.

OK, OK, OK. The guy is a jerk, a cad, and right wing extremist.

He did not use, however, in his apology, that old political chestnut of "if I offended anyone" that circumscribes the apology into a meaningless expression of "Tough nuggies, you whiners."

His apology was unabiguous, unequivocal, and unqualified. He plain out said he was wrong, period.

At least give him that before piling onto the Republican party throwing him under the bus.

@Texson55

"With a "gaff-king" like Joe Biden in office, anything goes.....why not stay in the race? The Godless Liberals will support him....he'll be fine!"

There you go. When you cannot defend the indefensible, always resort to the straw-man argument and/or change the subject. Well done. "Here's your sign."

"How refreshing that we have politicians that stand up for the right things......even if means a black-eye for your own political party."

"Way to go Republicans.....Liberals could stand to learn a lesson here!"

Ha too funny Michael, give me a break, republicans put this guy on the tech and science committee he worked with Ryan on legislation on this subject, this guys view are no surprise to republicans he was TV saying what many republicans want to hear from their candidates he actually thought this would help him, his statements were meant to reflect core principles for republicans.

So what is the big lesson here that republicans will immediately turn their backs on a candidate that had so much favor in their party the first time it makes a little political trouble for their presidential candidate and the VP candidate that he worked on legislation with on this very subject. So the lesson is that republicans can't bury this guy fast enough, not because of his views, they know this guy's views, he is a six term Congressman, and they had him working on legislation on this very subject, but that they are aborting him because he is suddenly politically pregnant. What's the lesson, politics first idealogy second, because the sad truth is that there a lot of people in Mo who have supported this guy for six terms because of his views on this very subject, he was a walk in the park for re-election to the House, but republicans liked him so much they talked him into going for the Senate seat for them, now they bail out on him because he made political trouble for them not because of his views, they knew full well what this guys views were. So tell me what is the mighty lesson we should learn from this, is the lesson republicans put politics first and foremost, or is the lesson that republican leadership has no clue about a six term member who is on the tech and science committee and is co writing legislation for them that attempts to redefine rape.

Ok, so let me get this straight. Grothman in Wisconsin wants single parenthood to be classified as child abuse, Ryan supported a bill that supports the rights of a rapist to sue their victims in order to stop an abortion, and this idiot says that legitimate rape doesn't cause pregnancies. This is my interpretation:

Women need to keep their mouths closed and open their legs to men when men want it, marry them, and be forced to have children, as they are only nitwit c*&dumpsters, and completely compliant and never to be trusted to make decisions of their own.

Welcome to the USA. The only developed country where women's rights are being rescinded and where corporations are receiving rights to basically enslave their workers. Gotta make those babies, so they can starve, and those who survive will just be tossed out into the poisoned fields. If things go in the GOP's favor, in ten years, Mexico is going to have an illegal immigration problem.

Heck - let him stay in the race. It'll guarantee a win for McCaskill.

That being said, let's not get complacent. Get out there and vote a straight Democratic ticket if you want to keep idiots like him and Ryan out of office.

Obama/Biden 2012

I was standing next to some kid on Sunday while listening to Akin. The kid pointed his finger and said "that's my DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD"!

Funny how the Ewe's body didnt shut that one down.

GreenTimer,

His apology was explained on the Mike Huckelberry show as he used the wrong word. Instead of legitimate rape he meant forcible rape. Now there's a difference without a distinction.

No doubt about it, Akin needs to step down...the comments was tasteless and ignorant. But, if every time a politician said something insensitive, tasteless, and hurtful Obama would need a new running mate. I see the Republican leadership is joining with many of the Democrats in calling for Akin to go.....sorry it doesn't work the same way when a Democrat like Uncle Joe gets caught over and over again saying stupid things.

C'mon, to be fair every right-winger knows you won't get pregnant from your rapist if you keep an asprin between your knees...

For the Teapoopypartiers who think Bidens comments were even remotely equal to Akin's. PLEASE! get a life, y'all and the rest of the GOP have been trying to suppress the blacks for years. Or what, you didn't think so?

Akin really thinks that there are MAGICAL FORCES at work preventing pregnancy from rape?

We all know what he was insinuating by "legitimate rape", he was talking about his belief that there are a lot of slutty women around that just "claim" rape when they get mad at a man, or were "asking for it " by wearing something slutty.

Dude from nowhere#1.60~~It is un-excusable to speak someone elses mind. Once YOU speak it, YOU own it. This is the same as someone saying, "from what I understand from those rabid, racist emails, Obama is a muslim. If YOU don't believe it YOU don't say it.

The truth is Paul Ryan and Todd Akin believe the same thing and have co-sponsored this kind of rape legislation in the recent past. What hypocrisy, Republicans condemning a public comment even though that’s how most of them think, what their really condemning is the fact that Akin made the comment publicly. Every day the Republican Party becomes more radical and is constantly creating an atmosphere that promotes this type of 10^th century thinking...

If any main stream Republican actually stood up right now and said “We must end this behavior and start listening to the American people” I would be amazed. The sad truth is every Republican with the courage to make a statement like that has been driven from the party by extreme right wing elements.

Backward ideas, laws that strip away individual freedoms, the suppression of voting rights and a tax policy that makes the rich richer and the poor poorer these things are what the Republican/Tea Party really stands for. The Republican/Tea Party advances their radical agenda by using an never ending river of lies and has turned into an evil greed based entity that can no longer be trusted by the American people.

Let's be honest. The ONLY reason why republicans are asking Akin to step down from the race is because they know that he won't get that seat in the Senate now and they want to get a guy/gal in there who can. It's NOT because they disagree with what he said. There's nothing honorable about what they're doing at all. It's just politics as usual.

Akin needs to step down. This is very unfortunate for the rest of us in Missouri that want to support a GOP candidate but will not be supporting Akin. And I definitely will not be supporting McCaskill either. Akin needs to step down and get out of the way, otherwise, fiscally conservative Republicans in Missouri will have little choice in this election as we are left with a choice to vote for a tax dodger and Obama surrogate in McCaskill or an idiot, socially conservative Akin.

Who gave you the idea republicans are "fiscally conservative"? They just blow the money on big useless wars and the military instead of blowing it on big useless social programs.

What nobody is asking all these Republicans jumping on the "shut up, Akin" bandwagon is:

Do you support a woman's right to abortion in the case of rape or incest?

"The agenda of the Republican Party is to limit access to health care services. ... It's to cut funding for Planned Parenthood. And it's to select as a vice presidential nominee someone who co-sponsored legislation with Rep. Akin to redefine 'rape.' ... Republicans want to pretend Todd Akin is an isolated individual, but he is clearly in line with the Republican agenda."

"I feel just as strongly as ever that my background and ability will be a big asset in replacing Claire McCaskill and putting some sanity back in what's going on in our government,"

Honest...to...GOD! He really said that? ...and with a straight face?
Sanity? ...Akin?

"When they show you who they are...believe them!"

Paul Ryan and Adkin co-sponsored a bill to change THE MEANING OF RAPE.

THEY WANTED TO PASS A BILL TO MAKE rape really legitimate, so women would not be able to have an abortion.

THIS IS TRUE!!!!

The GOP has nothing but CONTEMPT for women!!!!

Like rats off a sinking ship.

Everyone just calm down. What he said was idiotic, which he himself admitted to.

We've also said stupid things before - apologize and move on.

In fact, this is one of the only times I've ever heard a politician admit to doing something stupid and apologizing for it (Rick Perry and his forgetting the government agency was another - although there was no turning back from that lol...).

Contrast that to Joe Biden and the Democratic Party, who reached for a pathetic excuse when explaining his "y'll..chains" remark, by trying to say that it was in response to the Republicans' use of the term 'unshackled'.

It's almost too bad...when someone admits to making a mistake, they get roasted. But when they deny it at all costs, even when they are lying straight up, we somehow don't judge them as harshly.

The GOP prides itself of being "The party of the Christians" But one of them got drunk and went swimming naked into the Sea of Galilee, where Jesus supposedly walked on water.

Is this the kind of "respect" that the GOP is showing to Jesus???

Wow! It's amazing, after all that stupid rhetoric that we hear in the US, they take advantage of a trip PAYED BY TAX PAYERS, TO SWIM NAKED IN A SACRED PLACE.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/20/sea-of-galilee-kevin-yoder_n_1811082.htm

It is just BS Rhetoric. They are RUDE and use religion to manipulate PEOPLE

Let's not forget, too, that Ryan co-sponsored a bill with this dufus - which isn't exactly doing the Romney campaign any favors. OF COURSE they want Akin to go away!

N...He is being judge harshly because what he said was harsh--and ignorant. In his world, the rapes that occurred in the fictional movie "The Color Purple" were legitimate. It is worth seeing, if you haven't. No, these children were not aborted, but they were taken from their mother without her consent. Are we really back to that kind of thinking? What he said is a bombshell to every woman that wants to have some say over what she chooses to do with her body. So many women get pregnant and are abandoned by their significant others. So many single women with children they cannot afford to provide the bare necessities for, like education, food, clothing, a father figure....This isn't what govt. should be making decisions about. Women should be making these decisions with guidance from other wise and competent people. I am not blaming men--It was the woman's choice in many cases to have unprotected sex--but, many just don't step up to the plate and support their offspring. Many do, as well. The stats are pretty clear on who will hit the poverty line if they become pregnant and are single. He should be judged harshly because he has to take personal responsibility for what he says and believes.

Republicans, out of touch since Lincoln...

If the Republicans used the term "unshackled" - and nobody seems to be denying that - then doesn't it stand to reason (work with me on this) that Biden could talk about the Republicans' plan for eliminating regulations on Wall St. as "shackling"? In other words, for you trying to invent a controversy, does Biden get to use the same word to express an opposite opinion? Especially when you know he meant not blacks, but every investor in America who was "shackled" by the big banks with mortgages based on "liar loans" and all manner of fraud? It's an absolutely incredible reach to say that he was racist on this - and you know that too.

Mitt Romney said that it would be "wonderful"if abortion could just "disappear" He wants to take women back to dark allies abortions with coat hangers.

If a woman is raped, of course it is her fault for putting herself in the path of "perversion"

Akin, by all means, stay in the race. And Romney, by all means, keep refusing to release your tax returns. A landslide GOP loss guaranteed, who could ask for more?

Good point about Biden. What if he says women should be "unshackled" from the religious Right? He'd be right on!

This is a fine example of how far right these radical Repubes have gone. Do not trust one word a Repube says in favor/for the people. It's only to get elected.

Colorblind-2498596 -- I would recommend the movie Precious as well.

Incest is the most common rape, and a repeated rape that results in pregnancy, often repeated pregnancy -- As well as a higher rate of deformity. The extremism of "personhood" legislation Paul Ryan supports would make abortion in the case of incest illegal. Understand we are talking about criminalizing abortion for the victim and doctor under any circumstance.

Christian Sharia Law is NOT mainstream. Send a message to these religious radicals and vote them out!

@ImjustaBilltoo - because there are still some men (and unfortunately women) who believe that only rape by force and violence is really rape. Which negates date rape - which probably happens more frequently than the rape Akin and Ryan believe in. And is probably reported less than the definition of rape Akin and Ryan believe in. How ANY woman in MO could vote for such a misogynistic individual is beyond my comprehension. Obviously he failed his high school biology class. And what is more disconcerting is that he currently sits on a House committee dealing with science and health matters. Obviously intelligence was NOT part of that committee selection process.

COinFL

StandUp, Yes it does bother me that Akin is on the House Science and Technology Committee, just as it bothers me that Bachman is on the Intelligence Committee. What is going on here?

This is worth repeating. After the revolution in Iran, people were appointed to office based on how well they knew the Koran. Soon the country was going down the toilet due to incompetence -- similarly during Dubya and the Bible-toting inner circle of the White House to the DOJ and scandal thereof.

Bachmann and Akin get their committee rewards because they are the faithful, the lock-in-stop voters, and the crazy-talk fund raisers. The GOP/TP promote based on these things, not competence or any other criteria of true merit. Aside from having nothing left but old failed voodoo economics and neocon foreign policies as a platform, this is one reason the Teapublicans suck so much. And the reason some Republicans have left and are leaving office.

Dude from nowhere Comment collapsed by the community

@ StandUp

If you read the whole quote, he said:

"First of all, from what I understand from doctors, [pregnancy from rape] is really rare. If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."

(bolded part was to help you with my point)

He was given bad (possible) advice from some doctors. This was not his personal ramblings, this was information he was given and repeating.

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WRONG, NO DOCTOR ON EARTH,{bolded to help you understand} EVEN A FANATICAL CHRISTIAN WOULD SAY THAT ABOUT WHEN A WOMAN GETS RAPED...

It figures YOU, a SUPER SHEEPLE would have the ignorant belief that a doctor would say that TO ANYBODY

MoonWolf99: Just because Ryan cosponsered a bill with Akin doesn't make him guilty by association. We know this because it was well voiced that Obama rubbed shoulders with Bill Ayers and it made no difference in the election. There was still enough conservative vote to put him over (or through) the fence, so it shouldn't affect the left vote for Romney this time around.

If Akin stays in, and the libs keep harping about it, the Romney camp needs to keep bringing up Bill Ayers and Van Jones five times a day until they call a truce.

[How refreshing that we have politicians that stand up for the right things......even if means a black-eye for your own political party.]

Spoken like the true @!$%# that you are Michael...bravo...now scurry off, your mom is calling...she wants to trim your goatee.

Boy, the GOP not only threw Akin under the bus, they put it in reverse, forward, reverse and forward a few times for good measure!

I hear they eat their young too. :0

He say he "will be a big asset in putting sanity back in government". You can't make this $hit up!

Jim Missouri

This is indicative of a failed education system in the United States. People don't
understand how to diagram a sentence or understand proper English grammar.
"Legitimate" an adjective that modifies the noun "rape"... Legitimate rape means the same thing as rape...

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YOU ARE WRONG...This clown like many just like him think that women that get raped probably asked for it, or are lying to justify an abortion....

Its the good 'ol boy way of thinking

Aiken and anyone who supports him or is ok with what he said have proven that evolution is beyond dispute. You folks have somehow stopped moving forward somewhere way back in the evolutionary history of mankind. Even if Aiken was misinformed by someone at some time, shouldn't everyday living - you know reading books, watching TV, interacting with people in general have given him a clue?

Hey you know what else that is funny about this, KTVI is a fox news station, I guess he felt comfortable and spoke his mind, it can't be the fault of the "lamestream media" if it happened on Fox. Ha he buried himself on Fox, now that's beautiful.

I believe he meant what he originally said, and he's an insensitive ASS to say what he did! I think he's changing his story now, because he knows he lost many votes as a result of his asinine comments. I know I would not vote for this SOB! Anyway, WTH is an "ILLEGITIMATE RAPE? He sounds like one of those POS that thinks that it's not legitimate rape, because he thinks that when a woman says "no" she really means "yes" or "she was asking for it." Maybe he's even one of those idiots that thinks if a wife says no to her husband it's not really rape when she is forced to have sex with him. Or as one poster had the nerve to suggest...she's lying about being raped in order to get an abortion. RAPE IS RAPE! What ever the case, we don't need morons like this in our government.

Longdin:

No, I don't believe for one second that Biden didn't use that phrase purposefully.

First of all, he was talking in a neighbourhood that is 3/4 Black. Secondly, the Republicans' use of the word 'unshackled' is very general - they were never speaking directly to blacks in instances when they used it.

Thirdly - get real. If you actually think Biden wasn't doing it on purpose, you're either stupid or just have no ability to view the situation objectively. "They're going to put y'all back in chains" - said directly to a group of blacks. Are you kidding me? Obama's excuse for that was pathetic...the guy just can't admit to anything. His first response would have been "it was all Bush"

I don't think it's such a big deal - Biden should have just apologized, and I then I couldn't have cared less. Everyone make mistakes - real men have the balls to admit to them.

On another note: Republicans have to stop harping on gay marriage and abortion. They are literally shooting themselves in the foot. When people accuse the Republican party of backwardism...it's hard to defend when they make comments like these.

Heard this on the radio from an OBGYN doctor who stated that in the case of a forced rape, if the victim is traumatized enough her body chemistry can change from that and cause her vaginal and uterus area to become acidic enough that it would kill the sperm and egg thus preventing a pregnancy. So, what he said is factually true. While it isn't the case 100% of the time, the body can actually kill the sperm and egg before actual pregnancy takes hold.

I for one am a fiscal conservative but I do support a womens right to choose up to a point. My only issues with abortion is late term where it is performed after the 2nd trimester (at this point the baby can survive from a premature birth with proper medical care and grow up to live a normal life, just like my friends 6 year old daughter who was a 28 week premie resulting from her mother being involved in a car accident) and tax dollars paying for it. Outside of that I don't have any other issues with abortion.

The depth of gray matter between his ears is immeasurable it's so small.

@eric in oregon.

He says he "will be a big asset ...."

Eric, apparently he can't spell, either.

;-)

Ideolgoues of alll stripes lose the ability to processs information corrrectly; it alll has to fit into a perconceived structure. That's how guys like this character figure out this fringe stufff. At any rate AKin, with his swim in the sea of galileee which he appparently is going to apologizer for also, has had a busy week.

Step up folks, I got a real deal for ya.

In honor of "doctor" Akin, I am developing some exciting "your body has a way of dealing with that " kits-

Impotent? Who needs Viagra- I got a special on my "Prayer and Popsicle sticks" kit -only $49.95 !

Heart disease? Don't quit eating bacon, or deprive the fast food corporations of their God given right to profits- just buy my "Wishful thinking and it'll go away" medallion-only $76.99!!

I even have a testimonial from Paul Ryan:

"When I told Mom I wsn't going to get rid of Medicare, I was worried-why did I lie to her? But then I bought the midwestmarigold tried and true "Old people's home hospital kit"- it comes with a bottle of Gatorade and a bandaid, plus loads of positive thinking-now I know Mom will be just fine!"

@davefromdanapointca (Ignoring author)

"Heard this on the radio from an OBGYN doctor who stated that in the case of a forced rape, if the victim is traumatized enough her body chemistry can change from that and cause her vaginal and uterus area to become acidic enough that it would kill the sperm and egg thus preventing a pregnancy....."

Interesting that you would attempt to defend the indefensible. But going with your line of reasoning, would you argue then that the conversation we should REALLY be having is making sure that the "legitimate" rapists should be sure to use enough force in order to make sure the victim is traumatized enough so that an abortion isn't ever necessary.

I see .....(wowwwwww!)

Question: So, if the victim fails to be adequately cooperative with her rapist, and despite the "legitimate" rapist's BEST EFFORTS the victim is not adequately traumatized to change her body chemistry, ... is that then HER fault?

Just seeking clarification, here.

This guy is a complete dipsh1t. Are the people who live in Missouri really so ignorant that they'll actually cast a vote for such an unaware d1p@!$%#?? Why are these imbeciles not encarcerated in institutions for the criminally insane?

imnotlost -- Paul Ryan is offensive all on his own. Thanks for pointing that out.

N-529260 -- It's false equivalency to begin with, but the group which consisted of blacks laughed when Biden said what he said, so move on! It's only offensive if the audience is offended. And women are very offended by Akin's remarks.

Women are offended by the Teapublicans in general, and so are blacks -- No comparison!

N-529260

Everyone just calm down. What he said was idiotic, which he himself admitted to.

We've also said stupid things before - apologize and move on.

In fact, this is one of the only times I've ever heard a politician admit to doing something stupid and apologizing for it (Rick Perry and his forgetting the government agency was another - although there was no turning back from that lol...).

Contrast that to Joe Biden and the Democratic Party, who reached for a pathetic excuse when explaining his "y'll..chains" remark, by trying to say that it was in response to the Republicans' use of the term 'unshackled'.

It's almost too bad...when someone admits to making a mistake, they get roasted. But when they deny it at all costs, even when they are lying straight up, we somehow don't judge them as harshly.

You NeoRepublicans really don't get it do you? It's not that he said something stupid; you're right, everyone does that now and then. It's that he not only believes it, he attempted to legislate it with Paul Ryan's help. You see, that's far worse than any comment Biden made that you might think is stupid. He didn't try to turn his comments and insane Taliban like "Sharia Law" into the law of the land. You people have a real problem and I suggest you pull your head out and take a look at what you support.

The Republican brand is doomed.

It happened before..when the Federalists disappeared in the early 19th century due to ... guess what ...self-destruction, starting during its heyday in the 1790s.

The GOP is the reincarnation of the Federalist party.

This time, when the GOP disappears in the end, the US will soon have two parties too, the one is the Democratic party, the real grand old party; and the other will soon emerge - the FSFP, that is, the Forever Second Fiddle Party - thus the US will change from a two party system to a one-party dominant system

"putting some sanity back in what's going on in our government." ???

And this is a sane man? As screwed up as this country is, I think I'll take it the way it is, thank you very much. And let us not for get, for a minute, how we got here and who caused it. Short term memory loss doesn't cut it, folks.

Wayne-1656909... "one of the most important spokesmen for your party!" If you say so. Apparently water does seek it's own level.

CommonSense_not2Common... Right. And you should try using a little. I guess it's okay for an arrogant troglodyte like John Bohener to refer to "The American People" though, huh? Well, you can leave me out of that one.

Dude from nowhere... Go on back, please!

Michael1969... "Refreshing?" What an interesting take on idiocy.

Im not sure why the GOP is acting all upset about this, if you look at the legislation they have been trying to pass the last two years, in the states in in DC, you will find that this is really what they believe in. The republican party is not the party of my fathers time. They want to take away all womens rights. They claim they want small government unless it has to do with a womans body, then they want total control. So GOP you can quit your fake outrage we really dont believe it.

Clinton..... accused of rape, molestation & GUILTY of lying to a Judge..... DNC ketnote speaker

Kennedy.... KILLED a young girl... forgiven

Biden.... LIES & curses to the American people..... still VP

Byrd.... KKK member..... oldest Democrat in the Senate

Pelosi.... come on, need I say more?

Akin.... said something that offended liberals..... must PAY with his political life

Hey Patriot! How is it going? You are right. I have seen Precious and it is relevant to this discussion. Good posts!!

Akin said: "I feel just as strongly as ever that my background and ability will be a big asset in replacing Claire McCaskill and putting some sanity back in what's going on in our government," Akin said, explaining that no national Republican figure had specifically called to demand his resignation. "The good people of Missouri nominated me, and I'm not a quitter. And my belief is we're going to take this thing forward, and by the grace of God, to win this race."

Akin is delusional. Tell me, what would Jesus do? He'd whip that woman-haten of a man, Akin. Everything dealing with women and their rights, Akin has a paper trail of disapproval and voted against ANYTHING for women. And Paul Ryan is joined-at-the-hip with Akin on women's issues, as well. But let's not stop there--Akin and Ryan also want to gut Medicare, Social Security and anything else that benefits the poor and those that just need a leg up. And unless you're in the 2% Club, you've needed a "leg up" from time to time.

Speaker of the House, (R) John Boehner, used the term, "Shackled" when talking about Wall Street; Vice President, (D) Biden used the term, "Chains." "Potato - Potahto." Both were referring to the money "strong hold" that is Wall Street.

It seems that the Repubs have been shoveling too much Chit-fil-A down their throats. All that hormone injected, Monsanto genetically engineered mystery meat, toxin-filled fries and fructose-laden soft drinks, have polluted their conservative minds. Don't believe me? Just look at 'em! Most have those "super-sized" bodies, like Rove and Limbaugh.

Yes Akin, the good people of Missouri now know your true colors--and God always did. You say no one on the National level has asked you to step down? They have--you're just too thick headed to realize it. But you will.

He's an idiot for saying it, he did apologize...later than sooner, but as Steve lists out, other dumbass politicians have done made comments and are still around...its just a media hype story, that the dems will beat to death....Ho Hum, just another day in the world.....

Here was my reaction when I heard Todd Akin's remarks:

BWHahahahahahahaha!!!!!

A Democrats best friend that Akin is. THANK YOUUUUUU!!!!!! Please, stay in the race Akin. We need white, upper class, misanthrope, misogynistic trolls like you running on the Republican ticket.

Ha wow, my silly cannibal joke got collapsed, so is this what is coming next from republicans, no fun allowed. You need to smile even when your heart is Akin.

Here is what every American should really be talking about and it will scare the crap out of everyone who supported or now supports Obama!!!

1) Obama has increased our national debt by almost 6 trillion dollars in just 3 ½ short years. That is $4.24 billion per day increased debt! This is more debt than was accumulated by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Bill Clinton combined and is destined to destroy the future of every household in America, end of story! Were this the private sector, any CEO in America would have been summarily fired for this type of “criminal handling” of American fiscal policy!

2) Obama’s reckless spending has been so devastating that, even if clear thinking America’s could vote him out of office, it would take a permanent,
across-the-board tax increase of 60% just to begin to balance the budget within the next 10 years. Think about that for a minute.

The impact of such reckless spending has the potential to force 90% of currently working Americans into living in utter dire poverty.

For those who think that can’t happen, think again!!!

3)The takers have been kept fat and happy so far living off the efforts of others, borrowed money that the yet unborn will have to repay. Obama allows millions of illegal aliens to flow into our care. We then provide all their necessities of life - food, shelter, education, medical care, clothing and all you can eat taco bars in a thinly veiled effort to “buy votes” from yet another group the “Obama administration strategists” characterize as one dimensional, intellectually compromised, single issue constituencies.

Many of the liberal posts in this chat comfirm Obama's "one dimensional, intellectually compromised, single issue constituencies" characterization!

4) Under Obama, the S&P has already downgraded the U.S. sovereign debt rating from AAA to AA+. Should Obama be reelected, there will be yet another downgrade as early as 2013. The implications of this are major. The U.S. cannot run its day-to-day operations without borrowing money. Anything that impacts its ability to borrow money has serious consequences. China and other nations are likely to reduce or halt extending more and more loans by buying U.S. Treasury securities. Premier Wen Jiabao of China recently expressed concern that the Obama Administration is causing the U.S. to be viewed as “something of a, well, deadbeat. "We have made a huge amount of loans to the United States. Of course we are concerned about the safety of our assets!”

Fearing the fact that Obama’s socialist deficit spending will bring about an economic
doomsday in the US, the Chinese have now become a net-seller of Treasuries resulting in an increase of 41 basis points in 19 trading sessions. Obama has bankrupt America. So, who will buy our debt in the furture?

5) In order to limit the likelihood of a near term a default stemming from this massive deficit spending the Fed will continue “monetizing” his debt. In effect Obama’s reckless spending forces the Fed to commit grand larceny. Rather than honestly repaying what it has borrowed, the government merely prints up extra currency and uses it to pay its loans. The debt is “monetized”…transformed into an increase in the money supply, thereby lowering the purchasing power of everybody’s savings and creating inflation. The the U.S. adjusted monetary base has been expanded by 100 billion dollars in the last 2 months alone!

6)This is precisely why every American household is struggling to make ends meet and why Obama is in effect forcing you to take a shopping cart full of cash every time you buy groceries or buy gas. To make matters worse, his energy policy is criminal and will likely result in gas prices of over $6 per gallon in less than 3 years!

Do your research American, we cannot withstand 4 more years of this!

If you have a brain in your head, now is the time to use it!

7) The Obama administration has metastasized into a pathological cancer on our society, but we can start to cut the cancer out in November!

Facts Republicans Hate:

Job losses per month in January 2008: 800,000

Job gains last month: 80,000

29 straight months of private sector job growth

GDP growth in 2008: negative 6%

GDP growth last year 2.9%

Dow Jones Average in January 2008: Under 8000

Dow Jones Average today: 12,700+

Record domestic oil production

GM – all time record profits

Near record corporate profits across the board

Osama Bin Laden --- dead

Iraq war --- over

Seems to me that you are the pathological cancer and your GOP counterparts. They are the most arrogant, hateful, and selfish people I have ever heard of! Them stating that they are patriotic is the biggest untruth! I hope and pray that every GOP hate monger, anti-abortion, anti-woman, and anti-american are voted out of office this year. We definitely cannot count on them to make our country great... as they love to say. Biggest hypocrites ever!

Aiken could be Romney's moneymate instead of Ryan....another flip flopper!

I said what I meant, when I said what I said, I meant what I said 100 per cent.

I meant what I said when I said what I meant, except now what I said when I said what I said.

Retroactively I said, not what I said, what I retroactively meant what I retroactively said.

Burma Aikin

Aikin is the mirror image of the republican party. The repubs create a bunch of bills including Ryan making having an abortion criminal no matter what the circumstances, how about attaching to the bill making it criminal for the guys that got them pregnant too? Repubs make WAR ON WOMEN!

Vote Obama/Biden 2012 and protect women's rights!

I've just purchased a Rosetta Stone "Republispeak" kit- it's amazingly easy to learn their language:

Akin needs a lobotomy, no wait, I MISSPOKE- he needs a bilateral orchiectomy, no wait I MISSPOKE-so sorry, I meant a brain/heart transplant, well, that's not what I REALLY meant...but I luv Jesus and hate furriners, so its' all good, ain't it? Hell, boys, lets just get outta here and find us some gals wearin' skirts, 'cause it ain't legitimate rape if they have skirts or lipstick on."

Rape should never be spun for political gain, or anything else for that matter.

Clearly no separation of Church and State in an Aiken mind.

The average church goer isn't this hard core.

Jim Missouri is the Audacity of Dopes complaining about our failed education system because (as he claims) folks don't understand the definition of the word "legitimate" as used in that context. I agree our education system is lacking, but rather because of posts like C. Smith who defend Akin and such quackery as women being able to prevent pregnancy by willing their bodies to do so from the trauma of rape.

It's good to see that both of their posts have been collapsed. This is another example of anti-science Flat Earth Society idiocy and their predisposition for conspiracy theory and pseudo-science BS! But most appalling of all is when elected officials like Michele Bachmann or Allen West or John Bolton are permitted to run around spewing their ignorance.

If Romney/Ryan is elected, the rest of the clowns get elected with them. Vote NO to Romney/Ryan and Republican quackery!

It is now 11:33 eastern time. The republican Hierarchy have now convinced Akin to give up His candidacy. He simply reveals too much "darkness" that is the republican party as a whole. They will now call Him an aberration, and try to move on. We'll all hear about it tomorrow, Tuesday.

Akins is a berserk ignoramus as are most Republicans but the people who bankroll both major parties don't care about women's issues or abortion (one way or the other) or any of these kinds of things.

They only care about one thing, money, and getting as much of it as they can at the expense of everyone else.

On issues like how much of the national wealth go to which groups of people, legal immunity for their many frauds and crashing the economy in 2008, etc., both the Democrats and Republicans are pretty much the same and differ only in their choice of tactics to reach the same goal: More money for the rich, more power for Wall Street and corporations.

Both parties have signed onto a "deficit reduction package" that will cut trillions from Government spending which will increase the wealth of the already filthy rich and devastate the standard of living of generations of Americans.

Neither party will go after the bankers for their well documented swindling and fraud which caused world wide recession/depression.

Both parties are committed to lowering the standard of living of the so-called 99%. They are doing this by letting corporations use the high unemployment to drive down wages and benefits.

Both Parties want the turn the U.S. into a low wage export platform, sort of a Banana Republic, the way the U.S. was before the two progressive eras (1890's - 1920 and 1933 - mid 1970's) gave the U.S. a world class infrastructure and large prosperous middle class we used to be famous for.

This is not to say there is no hope. There are plenty of groups working to stop this decline, you just have to find and support them.

@imnotlost: Did either Bill Ayers or Van Jones co-sponsor a bill with Obama's running mate? Apples and oranges, dude.

@imnotlost: You're seriously bringing up Bill Ayers? That non-issue was put to rest years ago. There was found to be no close relationship between Ayers and Obama. And as for Van Jones - they fired him, didn't they? That would seem to suggest that he and Obama have different belief systems. Ryan and Akin, on the other hand, co-sponsored a bill trying to re-define rape. That would seem to imply that they do, in fact, share similar belief systems and that they DID work closely together. There's a world of difference between Obama's non-relationships with Bill Ayers and Van Jones, and the relationship between Ryan and Akin.

YAAAAAAY! Congressman Akin, the new poster boy for the Red White and Blue He Man Woman Hater's Party is staying in the race.

Happy Days are here again!

Obama/Biden 2012

I am very happy he refuses to drop his bid. You go, stupid pig!

In addition to losing his race, he is going to drag down Willard Wrongme and his idiot sidekick Eddie Munster.

BTW, when men are raped, we have ways to shut the whole thing down, too. It keeps us from getting pregnant. See, you don't have to live in Missouri to be dumb as a stump.

One thing women will be ale to "shut down" is their vote for Republicans.

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C. SmithRestored

I see the liberal hate is still strong on this site.

It is clear from what he said that his 'legitimate rape' statement was meant to divide thought between actual rape and women who decide they didn't want sex after the fact (i.e. the next morning they decide it was a mistake, so they claim it was rape). The first are victims of a horrible assault, but the very fear, stress, and horror of that assault releases chemicals into their blood system that severely decrease the odds of an embryo implanting on their womb. This is what he was talking about. This makes rape pregnancies rare, but not impossible.

The second are an unfortunate result of the modern feminism movements, telling women they have the right to decide whatever they want about anything involving their bodies whenever they want, even after the fact. This is only one of the most extremist edges of feminism, but it is real and prosperous in America today nonetheless.

Finally, the real issue at hand should not be how the woman got pregnant, but whether the embryo/fetus/child is a human life with human rights or not. If it isn't, the Right's arguments are flat out ridiculous. If it is, the Left's arguments are flat out monstrous. Do you want to know what's worse than forcing a raped woman to carry her rapists child to terms? Murdering an innocent baby because it's father did something wrong.

The fact that the mother was raped, and even the fact that the mother may suffer psychological pain and suffering to bring the baby into the world is very unfortunate, but it doesn't excuse murder. If the mother brought the baby to term, gave birth to it, and THEN decided to strangle it, we'd all agree she should either go to prison or a mental ward, the rape not withstanding. Of course, all of that is only if the child IS a human being with human rights.

All of that aside, though, I know nothing about the man himself, his policies, or his history. He may well be a complete jerk who's only in it for the money".

Thank you for so eloquently and thoughroughly describing the ignorant, backwoods, 1950's, "if a women is raped she's a slut and its her fault," religious psychopathic mentality of much of todays republican party.

couldnt have done a better job myself!

900 bills about womens sex lives folks! he AND ryan!

ALL RAPE IS FORCIBLE RAPE.

do NOT vote for these fools! they think its a WOMANS FAULT!

and yes C. SMITH, libuhruhls DO hate bigotry, ignorance, and sexism towards women. WE consider them EQUALS.

go BACK TO 1950!!!!

since the tea party BIGOTS have tried to pas 900 anti-women bills in the last four years, i hereby submit the deomocrats should put forth a bill that says:

ALL RAPE IS FORCIBLE RAPE

and force every last one of them to show theur true colors and vote for just what they think is legitimate or not.

who is with me?

Republicans to women: IT'S YOUR FAULT!

YOU WERE ASKING FOR IT!

make NO mistake thats what these people think.

Ryan and Akin co-sponsored a bill that redefines rape, and would take away abortion in cases of incest.

Essentially defining what is legitimate and illegitimate rape.

That's how this whole conversation got started. Romney-Ryan is the most anti-women ticket I have ever seen.

Hey Paul Ryan, what do you think of Akin's comments and can you explain your position on "legitimate" rape given the bill you co-sponsored with Akin?

Always a good thing when one of the theocrat GOP misogynists in Congress slips up and actually says what the entire party believes. That he proudly stated this on Fox and on Arkansas Gov./Rev. Heffalump Huckabee's weird show ought not surprise, either. ;-)

Still, do not expect House 'pub Akin to resign or the voters of Missouri to necessarily turn him out in November, or that Missouri voters will send him packing in his bid to move from the Houser and into the Senate. His opponent, Sen. Claire McCaskill, is one of the primary members of Congress pushing for Wall St. and banking reforms.

Obama Campaign - please cue add on Ryan's co-sponsoring bill with Akin redefining rape.

In medieval England, a pregnancy following 'alleged' rape was often used by the culprit [defendant] as evidence that intercourse was consensual. Fortunately, society has moved on over the last six hundred years. That Todd Akin has not done so is evidence that irrespective of political stripe he is unworthy of any political office. We ridicule the Taliban for their medieval beliefs, yet we have our own dreadfully ignorant and bigoted folks running for public office. Does anyone need a mind as refined as Akin's in Congress?

It's time for the Republican party as a whole to do the 'right' thing.

This retard's comments open the window into how Republicans view life outside of their shameful existence...

Hey, Repubs; first you eliminate your average Joe- the American people, then minorities, then gays, then women, illegals and legals...what next, retards? I thought 99% of your support comes from Retards...wouldnt that be pushing it folks?

Dont say I didnt warn ya...

The GOP just pulled funding from Akin's campaign.

Washington Post News

As "Flounder" said from Animal House - "Oh Boy, this is great!" GOP, just when I think you might get boring....you bring more wonderful players into the picture. Thanks for the laugh and also for opening MORE women's eyes that may have been sitting on the fence for the election. Good job.

OMG they are aborting his campaign in it's fetal stage, but "he is a politician not a choice!" did he consent to this, or was this forced upon him. Wow it seems if Akin's senate campaign has become a bit of an unwanted pregnancy that the GOP would not prefer to bring to full term.

Please don't consider Akin voters as backwoods, Wal-Mart shopping, red-neck, funnel-cake eating Neanderthals from Missouri. We're just a bunch of gun-toting Christians bigots. Hi Grumper:)

What I said was ill-conceived and it was wrong, and for that, I apologize."

Oh SURE! We believe your SINCERE APOLOGIES, just like we believe Rush Limbaugh when he "apologized" for calling a law student a "slut"

Your apologies only come when you see the $$$$$ flying off the window. HYPOCRITES! HE MEANT EVERY WORD OF IT!!!!!!

Todd Adkin's (GOP's Nominee for the MO, Senate seat) remark has regressed all the way back to the "Dark Ages of Feudalism". Once a candidate opens his big mouth with a dark ages, male chauvinistic comment, then the non-apology means nothing other than what it was originally intended. Vote to keep this schmuck of a male chauvinistic pig out of the Senate. We don't need any more of the "imbecilic, big mouth, drug addicted" comments like Rush's in the House or the Senate.

Todd Akin is obviously and so are virtually all of the people posting above condemning him. Proof positive partisans are idiots.

A Presidential Candidate has no room for making egregiously, serious, mistakes such as: Akin claiming he "MISSPOKE". Those were exactly his thoughts regardless of his non-apology. He's trying to backtrack with his big mouth to save his election. He is just another Republican thinking about himself and not about the Constituents to begin with.

Great, the world needs yet another moronic Republikkkan stooge with a microphone.

Just as internet forums need moronic software & managers that allow comments to be collapsed for no particular reason.

As a registered Democrat located outside of MO, I strongly feel that he should stick to his guns and stay in the race. And just keep on talking, and talking, and talking.

Akin apologized for his "ill conceived remark" only because Republicans are calling for him to withdraw from the Senate race. And if anyone believes this man is an idiot with his impulsive and ridiculous beliefs, just imagine.....PAUL RYAN thought so much of him that he co-sponsored a bill in which "rape" is defined. Now doesn't that scare the hxll out of you.....if Romney wins, Paul (teaparty lack of sense) Ryan would be a heartbeat away from being president......that should! Any woman who would vote for any Republican candidate in November has no self-esteem or common sense. The Republican party has waged a sadistic war on women in this country regarding rights. They have made no excuse for it...it has been blatant, and I remember when women could not even wear pants in the work place....I'm of a generation of baby boomer women who fought the glass ceiling secured by men for years. All I hear is that the Republican party wants to "move us forward" REALLY??? Sounds like the Republican party wants to move millionaires forward and women back to the 1950's. No thanks guys....and not a one of you will get my vote in November just because of the lack of respect candidate after candidate from the Republican party has shown when speaking about women. Even when Romney slows his speech down when addressing women...he shows exactly where he believes they should be. But we are not all as privileged as his wife with nanny's and housekeepers, and drivers. That woman has never washed a kitchen floor or make school lunches, or given up breakfast to make sure she got her kids to school on time (oh...forgot, they had private teachers for home-schooling). I'm waiting for American women to get good and mad at these jack-asses and take a stand and come November....every Republican on the ballot needs to loose.

Ursala,

Texas Republican Sen. John Cornyn called on Akin to "carefully consider what is best for him, his family, the Republican Party, and the values that he cares about ..."

to which you replied

...but not necessarily in that order!

Very good observation.

Notice that "values" comes last in the list. so that's probably what Cronyn meant. But certainly "Republican party" should be first from any other Republican's point of view.

And certainly, for Republicans, self would come before family. So as representative of Republican thought, it was not too far off: should have been party, self, family, values (when speaking of another Republican, not speaking of one's self)

Well, here's another gift seat for the Demos. Way to go moron.

"I feel just as strongly as ever that my background and ability will be a big asset in replacing Claire McCaskill and putting some sanity back in what's going on in our government," Akin said

Sanity? Is that what you call it?

I guess that does fit right in with the GOP logic that they're "saving" Medicare by destroying it....

Hi Ya Garrison, say what kind of handgun would Jesus carry if he had his CC permit, can he shoot as many people as he wishes with just a three round clip, or do you think he would prefer an extended clip?

The comment was idiotic and uninformed at best. In fact, I'd like to know what other classifications rape can take beside "legitimate".

However, Clinton - the diety of the dumb a$$ demos - seduced a 21-year-old girl in the white house and the media and his constituents blamed her and forgave him all over the place including when he denied having sex with her even though the DNA was on the dress. No, it wasn't "legitimate" rape, but a 50 year old leader of the free world up against a 21 year old girl is hardly fair. Blaming her was beyond the pale.

So, all you left wing nut jobs that think socialism works, despite seeing socialist European Union falling apart as we speak, shut up about "all the republicans". Quit generalizing. Say something provable for a change.

Akin's, wives fairy tale remark:

“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."

What an ignorant comment to make, and it shows that he has no scientific or medical understanding of the female body. He continues to open his big mouth with more twisted, manipulated, and demented remarks. Congress certainly doesn't need another jerk like him joining their ranks. Congress already has enough buffoonish clowns acting like schoolyard bullies.

What nobody is asking all these Republicans jumping on the "shut up, Akin" bandwagon is:

Do you support a woman's right to abortion in the case of rape or incest?

incest - noun

1. sexual intercourse between closely related persons.
2. the crime of sexual intercourse, cohabitation, or marriage between persons within the degrees of consanguinity or affinity wherein marriage is legally forbidden.

Statutory rape

The criminal offense of statutory rape is committed when an adult sexually penetrates a person who, under the law, is incapable of consenting to sex. Minors and physically and mentally incapacitated persons are deemed incapable of consenting to sex under rape statutes in all states. These persons are considered deserving of special protection because they are especially vulnerable due to their youth or condition.

Most legislatures include statutory rape provisions in statutes that punish a number of different types of sexual assault. Statutory rape is different from other types of rape in that force and lack of consent are not necessary for conviction. A defendant may be convicted of statutory rape even if the complainant explicitly consented to the sexual contact and no force was used by the actor. By contrast, other rape generally occurs when a person overcomes another person by force and without the person's consent.

The actor's age is an important factor in statutory rape where the offense is based on the victim's age. Furthermore, a defendant may not argue that he was mistaken as to the minor's age or incapacity. Most rape statutes specify that a rape occurs when the complainant is under a certain age and the perpetrator is over a certain age. In Minnesota, for example, criminal sexual conduct in the first degree is defined as sexual contact with a person under thirteen years of age by a person who is more than thirty-six months older than the victim. The offense also is committed if the complainant is between thirteen and sixteen years old and the actor is more than forty-eight months older than the complainant (Minn. Stat. Ann. § 609.342 [West 1996]).

Rape:noun

1. the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2. any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.

Yes, differentiating betwee forcible rape and incest or statutory rape does make a difference.

In the town I grew up there was a family, the parents were first cousins, they had several children, all of which were mentally handicapped. This is an instance of incest that has nothing to do with forcible rape.

People, please think. Guys like this have effed up this country, serving their Donor constituents by sacrificing everyday people and passing laws that strip you of rights, benefits, and the money you've worked hard for all your life. That anyone could think that the female body has some kind of pregnancy-resistant apparatus that prevents conception when "legitimately" raped has to be the most asinine thing uttered since the Enlightenment. I'd urge the voters of MO to give this guy an IQ test.

Unfortunately, how MO votes affects all of us because Republicans are interested in putting together a team of geezers who'll do as they're told. They'll whip up fear over Muslims, covering up the real terrorists among us.

The apologies are baloney. He meant what he said and he said what he meant - and his point of view is shared by all republicans. He just forgot that he's not supposed to say things like that in public.

the republicans are like big bullys, they will slap someone in the face and then think that by saying i'm sorry that should end it. they,the bullys, and other burecratic idiots need to take a look at themselves and look at the average joe and say what can we do to help the working man and their families, after all we would not have what we have if not for the working man. instead they are looking at these men and women and say i sure would hate to have to do what they do and laugh. just continued statements like this from akin, shows the working class people, they are not really in touch with us. yes akin and ryan sponsored a bill to define rape. wht is next take away overtime pay. i live in the area where a 56,000 sq. ft. mosque is being built. we were not given sufficient notice to express our concerns about this. we have had this shoved down our throats, don't get me wrong, i believe in freedom of religion, but this is supposed to be a democratic nation. sure when i was a boy i was taught that being in this great u s a that democracy would always prevail. now we are really starting to see and feel how this feels. just like prime minister krushev said in the early 60's that the rest of the world would not have to do anything to destroy the u s a, that the u s a would destroy themselves from within. we cannot make a statement about any minority because they, our government, has determined that this is a hate crime. the majority doesn't rule in america anymore, we the working people of this land are hated, we are expected to pay tax rates that exceed a lot more that what any politician pays. these taxes are used to keep the world up, not just our country. the working force of this country works now approximately five months a year to do this. why the hell would i want my tax dollars to go to a country that hates this country. billions and billions of our tax dollars are spent this way. wake up america before its to late. now there are two classes of people in america, they are the rich and the poor. now i don't believe in taking from the rich and giving to the poor. i, as an american, believe that these rich bastards should pay their part. they have shipped our jobs to other countrys to keep from pay wages that it takes to live in america. rommney and his type want to be the big man, let them and all politians realize, that until they have true compassion and understanding of the american people that they really don't deserve this respect from the american people. i have always been one to believe that the only way you can lead the people of this great country is to lead by example. so now let them pay 30%-40% percent of what they make, and not use every damn thing that is illeagal, to adjust their income. 13% is all that rommney pays. the american people that are on poverty pays more than that. come on mr. rommney, lead by example, pay your fair taxes so that i won't have to pay for you.

From what hole are the Republicans digging up these various radical, extremist Jack A$$es for candidates to run our States and Country?

As Senator McCaskill says:

"It's a window into their minds."

This is so reflective of the Republican behavior and radical policies, not to mention their belief in more social benefits/exemptions for the wealthy elite. And now you have Romney and Ryan trying to pass themselves off as coming from middle class normal families. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Congress needs to get some serious work done. Vote to keep the radical jerks out of any office. Start with kicking Romney/Ryan to the curb.

However, Clinton - the diety of the dumb a$$ demos - seduced a 21-year-old girl in the white house and the media and his constituents blamed her and forgave him all over the place including when he denied having sex with her even though the DNA was on the dress. No, it wasn't "legitimate" rape, but a 50 year old leader of the free world up against a 21 year old girl is hardly fair. Blaming her was beyond the pale

This is the problem with a lot of people, and most especially the core of what is rotten in the Republican party with regards to women's issues. They are unable to understand the difference between consensual sex, however ill-advised and rape.

Liberals and Democrats find Clinton's behavior here to be immoral and unethical, and downright stupid. But IT IS NOT ILLEGAL. It is not assault. It is not rape.

I mean, really - go take a look at this guy's House of Representative website:

http://akin.house.gov/

He has pictures of guys poling barges down the Mississippi and paddling canoes.

Guess what kind of America he's trying to take us back to?

somebefuddledperson... You most certainly are. You do know the meaning of the word "consensual" do you not? Monica Lewinski wasn't forced into anything.

Akin is not a complete idiot, he has been bought by the Democrats to throw Republicans under the bus with fodder for the make believe war on women. Then when he loses to McCaskill he will be well paid for playing the role of the patsy. Or maybe Akin is just an idiot. Either way he has handed this election back to the other idiot in the race. Missouri surely does know how to pick'em.

Rick...I was going to watch the twilight Zone show tonight...I watched the short version instead....your post!

Dispute this all you right wing neaderthals - 32,000 women a year who were raped got pregnant - I guess they didn't read your handbook

Or just maybe their juices weren't working or maybe your juices were stronger than their's

What a sickening group of men - who never passed Biology 101 - including Paul Ryan

Why doesn't Paul Ryan have more children than four - hell my grandmother and grandfather at his age was working on their eighth child

And oh my god Monica Lewinsky joins the fray again - why not Ted Kennedy

The befuddledperson does not know that BJ's don't make you pregnant - as Monica's College Professors knew

Befuddled person so I guess you're into diapers like Vitter, and wide stances like Craig - and cuckholding you're aide like Ensign and going after young aides like Foley

Everything Republicans do is OK with you - yeah we know

Good read and a couple of videos. Claire got the guy she wanted and is trying to keep it that way. She hit him about it at the start, but came off of it quick. It kind of looked like she was trying to keep him in the race. Both of the other people running were beating her in the polls by a larger margin at the time of the primaries and Akin was a surprise win in the state. Claire should hope there's not a change tomorrow as he can bow out of the race and one of the other parties running prior to the primary can run in the race.

How bad is the Ryan-Akin anti-abortion bill?

By Greg Sargent

The national battle over Todd Akin's comments about "legitimate rape" has shed light on a "personhood" bill, co-sponsored by Akin and Paul Ryan, called the Sanctity of Life Act. Much of the chatter today has focused on whether Ryan opposes abortion in cases of rape. The Romney campaign confirmed today that Ryan does personally oppose it, while clarifying that a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose it.

(Wow! A complete Flip-Flop in the same sentence! The last one above. That's gotta be a new Romney Flip-Flop Speed Record!)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/how-bad-is-the-ryan-akin-anti-abortion-bill/2012/08/20/c7e37e04-eafe-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_blog.html

This is PROOF POSITIVE that The GOP Mullahs are trying to IMPOSE a form of pseudo-Christian Sharia Law on all of America. Think about that. That is what The GOP gang is really up to.

BTW, That bill would be HR 212

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr212ih/pdf/BILLS-112hr212ih.pdf

Well, obviously suggesting that rape can ever be 'legitimate' is wrong. I do believe we should think the best and not the worst about people though, so I really do think it had to be miss-spoken words and not what he really meant. I think he was trying to formulate his thoughts and to make his point in the discussion, and he used the words ''legitimate'' and ''rape'' together in a obviously awful way that he didn't intend. I don't mean to be sticking up for him, but I really, really don't think he really intended to suggest that rape could be 'legitimate'.

Todd, Akin's slip of the tongue helped to highlight the FACT that:

• The GOP Mullahs are trying to IMPOSE a form of pseudo-Christian Sharia Law on all of America, with bills like HR 212, Trans-Vaginal Ultrasounds, etc... Think about that. That is what The GOP gang is really up to.

Can you believe the Republicans chose Akins to be their man in the House of Representatives, to make SCIENCE POLICY for the rest of the nation?

Remember this? Back in 2011, Akins is the same guy that supported the Religious Right's "Let the Women Die" Law, in the House.

House Passes ‘Let Women Die’ Bill After Extremely Depressing Debate

As predicted, the US House of Representatives has passed HR 358, otherwise known as the "Protect Life Act," otherwise known as the bill that would allow hospitals to let women to die rather than perform a life-saving abortion. Every single Republican in the House supported the measure...

A$$holes like Akin and Ryan are the reason why I believe self-defense training should be mandatory in our school systems, beginning at age 7. As long as the Republicans keep sending pieces of $h!t like this to Washington, women will have an urgent need to know how to defend themselves.

I'm a firm believer in the concept that if a woman knows how to fight on the ground, especially defending from her back, her chances of fending off a rape attempt, and not seeing it escalate to a murder attempt, greatly increase. Everyone, male or female, should know the basics of wrestling and grappling, and know them well; it will go a long way toward saving your life. Women, from a practicality standpoint, have a higher need to be well-versed in jiu-jitsu than men because they stand a greater liklihood of being in a situation where they will need to use a jiu-jitsu technique to defend themselves, and that situation is sexual assault.

If a rapist is stupid enough to attack a woman from behind standing up, he deserves to eat an elbow and be on his back with his pecker pointing to the sky; just be sure to finish him, i.e. kill, as soon as possible then get the hell out of there. More realistically, a woman will find herself in bottom position if she is being assaulted. YOU WANT TO BE ON YOUR BACK, NOT FACE DOWN, BECAUSE FACE DOWN IS GAME OVER; NOT ONLY WILL YOU BE RAPED FOR CERTAIN, BUT YOU COULD BE CHOKED TO DEATH BECAUSE THAT RAPIST CAN NOW TAKE YOUR BACK! From your back, you can pull guard and crush the rapists's rib cage with your legs. More important, you can shrimp your hips out to one side then swing the top leg over his head; JUST MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE WRIST. Armbars are the great equalizer when the attacker is larger than the victim, which is why women have a more pressing need to know how to execute them. It only takes five to eight pounds of pressure per square inch to blow an elbow to bits. It's not tap or snap here, only snap and finish.

Get off it all you dumbazz's this is NOT the Republican platform.....it's simply one persons stupid remark, which now makes it possible for a democrat incumbent to win the electoral race she was about to loose. It was much like Joe "Biteme" Biden's remark "they're gonna put ya'all back in chains". Quit grasping at desperate straws and move on!

Worth reading:

How bad is the Ryan-Akin anti-abortion bill?
By Greg Sargent

The national battle over Todd Akin’s comments about “legitimate rape” has shed light on a “personhood” bill, co-sponsored by Akin and Paul Ryan, called the Sanctity of Life Act. Much of the chatter today has focused on whether Ryan opposes abortion in cases of rape. The Romney campaign confirmed today that Ryan does personally oppose it, while clarifying that a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose it.

But what about the other legal implications of the bill Ryan and Akin co-sponsored? In an interview just now, Dem Rep. Louise Slaughter, one of the leading pro-choice voices in Congress, raised two startling possibilities.

“One of the questions around this legislation is, Could a rapist who impregnated a victim sue that victim if she decided not to carry that baby and to have an abortion?” Slaughter said. “Another question: Could in vitro fertilization be outlawed?”

It’s unclear how this legislation would work. The bill affirms that from the moment of fertilization onward, “every human being shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood.” It then says that Congress and the states have the “authority” to protect all human beings — again, defined as human life from fertilization onward — residing in their juristictions.

Slaughter’s suggestion is that this affirms the authority of Congress or the states to pass laws outlawing IVF, since that procedure requires the destruction of embryos, or that it could give legal weight to a rapist’s insistence that his victim not abort her baby — though again, it’s unclear how this would work.

“What it says is that a single cell can achieve all the protections the Constitution of the United States bestows on persons,” Slaughter said of the bill. “Scientifically the law is crazy.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/how-bad-is-the-ryan-akin-anti-abortion-bill/2012/08/20/c7e37e04-eafe-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_blog.html

Akin is not a complete idiot, he has been bought by the Democrats to throw Republicans under the bus with fodder for the make believe war on women.

I love how die hard republicans make up nonsense like this. Between sticking their feet in their mouths and spouting idiotic comments like the above, one gets the impression that Alzheimer's is spreading in the GOP. Poor Rick - your post gives the rest of us the impression that you're an idiot. Please say it isn't so. You were kidding when posted that comment, right?

Interesting how Republicans are trying to distance themselves from something they more than likely thought was true...

Hang in there Akins, its just a matter of a few days until Biden says something stupid to and takes the heat off you.

I swear you cannot possibly make this up!

Just after he made his poorly informed, misogynist and stupid comment on a national TV interview, he has the gall to say:

"I feel just as strongly as ever that my background and ability will be a big asset in replacing Claire McCaskill and putting some sanity back in what's going on in our government," Akin said

No! Wrong!

Yeah, hang in there Akins - you're doing a great job (helping Obama)!

In a nutshell, this is how I see it: The demographics of the U.S. are changing, meaning that those who have traditionally been considered minorities will, in the not so distant future, become the majority of the American population. Some of our older white men, especially conservatives, refuse to read the writing on the wall and are desperately grasping at straws to hold on to their wealth and power. In their effort to ignore demographic reality and its impact on the future social and economic health of our country, they are attempting to disenfranchise women and minorities. They are opposing any program that benefits the middle and lower classes: education, healthcare, opportunity. They are effectively writing the death warrant of our democracy.

How do we cope with these old white men, these dinosaurs? WE GO VOTE! Apathy is the real enemy here, not conservatism. WE THE PEOPLE are the ones with the power to save our country. If we refuse to take the reins of our own power, WE are the ones responsible for the downfall of this great nation. It's slow suicide, folks. Wake up to the conservative agenda and its impact on our future!

VOTE!!!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

Not denying the idiocy of this guy, where is the story on the democratic rep from Minnesota who was caught having sex with a 17 year old boy at a road side park? It's on the other "news" websites?

Yopu have to go to Fox News.

since the tea party BIGOTS have tried to pass 900 anti-women bills in the last four years, i dont think its out of line that the democrats should put forth a bill that says:

ALL RAPE IS FORCIBLE RAPE

and force every last one of them to show their true colors and vote for just what they think is legitimate or not.

who is with me?

Biden can say ANYTHING and the only thing the left does is send him to his room.

Damn right, because Joe tells the truth. It's funny watching these dumb a$$ tea bag people display the fake outrage.

Gotta love Republicans, vaginal probes and "legitimate" rape.........how far are they going to go on the war on women.

Steve - go away. No one is talking about murdering an unborn CHILD! Abortion is not murdering a child - it is terminating a fetus prior to it's becoming a child. But, of course, you're a good little Republican. Women are never capable of making choices about their own bodies. You need to do that for us!

Obama/Biden 2012

Not true Steve, no one wants abortions. That said, there has to be room for choice by women in these circumstances.

Can you turn this topic into a scratch-and-sniff coloring pop-up book for Steve and his ilk?

Steve,

The question of the morality of aborting a pregnancy is one best left between a woman and her own beliefs.

The Government needs to stay the hell out of it!!!

So how do you want it, Steve?

Do you want a country full of babies who were conceived by rape? Do you want a country full of kids whose own mothers cannot look at them without feeling the pain and horror of their conception? Do you want a country full of kids whose adoptive parents have to wait until they're adults to tell them their birth mothers were raped, and then hope counselling will help them overcome that?

Do you want your daughter, your mother, your sister, your wife, your aunt, your cousin and your friend to be raped and forced to bear a child? That's what Paul Ryan believes in.

I don't want to live in a country like that. Thank your god that abortion is legal in the U.S.A.

Steve...pretty stupid there buddy...I for one am surprised...

Biden can say ANYTHING

such as saying the Repulcan party wants to "unchain Wall Street?"That's exactly what Romney says he wants to do!

Last night, I watched a story on 60 Minutes on the Lehman bankruptcy and how they moved 50 billion back and forth between the US and the UK to hide their shenanigans. Who paid the price for their duplicity? We paid the price - hence, deregulating Wall Street would put us back in chains - Joe is RIGHT

See Steve that's where you job the Shark - by calling it Murder you try to guilt people into seeing your view. If the baby was born and then killed yes - that would be murder. But if a fertilized eggs is prevented from attaching to the womb or removed if needed to save the life of the mother then in my opinion and a lot of others no not Murder.

Let Women decide what is best for their bodies - let them have the "Freedom" to choose.

Steve, the last time I checked abortion was a legal medical procedure. Murder is a felony that puts you in jail. But hey you just keep spewing your ingnoance, I find it very funny, oh so sad but entertaining none the less...

Amy B. Portland, ME

Last night, I watched a story on 60 Minutes on the Lehman bankruptcy and how they moved 50 billion back and forth between the US and the UK to hide their shenanigans

I watched that too, and what's shocking is that the SEC does not have the means or ability to catch these things. It's billion dollar companies against government SEC employees. They hire the best accountants and pay them best salaries to make their balance sheets look good. Now let's imagine that we take away the little regulation we have against these greedy bastards.

Steve-446003

And the MURDER of an UNBORN CHILD is 100% OK in the mind of the left..........

Killing abortion doctors and bombing abortions is just fine and dandy for idiots like you on the right.

P.S Right wing nut jobs are mindless FOX NOISE drones!!

Steve: Until you, or ANY man for that matter, can have a baby, please shut the heck up. You have NOTHING to say about this subject. The matter of abortion is between a woman, her doctor, and, if around, her husband. It has NOTHING to do with the Senate. I get SO sick of hearing all you men proselytizing about a woman's right to decide what to do with HER body! It's none of your darn business unless you're married to the woman; then you only have a part in the decision.

I'd be interested in hearing how many of you men would make your wife deliver a baby that was conceived from a rape....how quickly would you jump on the abortion bandwagon then?? Love to hear comments on that one!!

Steve when Joe Biden insults every woman and young girl in this nation as well as the really good men of this world who know there is no such thing as legitimate rape we can compare his statements to those of Akin. Financially putting us in chains is real and those of us who work for a living realize the actual possibility when employers don't have to follow safety rules and don't pay us what they should. While not making enough money can be difficulty it is not in the same category as rape. I know a person who is the product of a man raping his mother - and she did absolutely nothing wrong regarding the situation, he is a fine young man, his mother however never recovered and his grandparents had to raise him.

Right on Didi!

I'd be interested in hearing how many of you men would make your wife deliver a baby that was conceived from a rape....how quickly would you jump on the abortion bandwagon then?? Love to hear comments on that one!!

These clowns have plenty to say, about something they have NO business talking about! I'm sure they would feel differently if it were their wife!

Jo-An...it would only take ONE man getting pregnant before we'd have a serious drop in population!!

Well Didi I would demand a divorce post haste! She will only carry child if the rape was not legit, so it was not rape in that case, but infidelity.

Now if you will excuse me I am off to watch more fox news. They don't speak of oxymoron like "womens rights" which bewilder and offend me.

Didi-376564

I think you are right, but I don't believe you will get an answer or one that is comprehensive.

If Steve had a family member that was raped and pregnant then he would change his tune.

Didi-376564

Jo-An...it would only take ONE man getting pregnant before we'd have a serious drop in population!!

Ain't that the TRUTH...

Didi...Well said!! If just one man would attempt to push a watermelon out his @ssho!e, this conversation would become irrelevant. Just one would do it, I think. I was a nurse for 38 years and have seen a lot of things come out of a rectum, but never a watermelon....or anything that would compare in size and shape. You go girl!!!

As a male I totally agreed with you Didi. It makes me feel dirty just thinking about trying to control someone in that manner. It is wrong and immoral to subjugate any group of people.

Strangely enough, the GOP is stuck on stupid, alienating the largest group in the nation 51% women.

Any real man that has love for the women in his life would take a serious look at what the GOP is trying to do. I will NOT except legislation that will make my daughter, my wife, my sister, my mother, my friends into second class citizens. This bullsh* has to be stopped. Vote any republican that voted for the Akin/ryan plan out of office. We do not need 60 year old men telling women what they can and can't do with their bodies, those are the real perverts in our nation.

The GOP has a WAR against women. They want to bring women to their rightful place: THe kitchen, and away from Politics.

They are already working in defranchising people from their right to VOTE. If you keep electing Republicans, pretty soon women WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE!!!!

Do you think that is impossible? When did you ever thought that it was possible for a SENATOR to call rape "legal"???

Steve? Steve, are you there? Too chicken to come back and defend your indefensible position, are ya?

Call us when your daughter gets raped and has that grandchild you've been hoping for.

...and yet; if we find a single viable one-celled microbe on mars, everyone will be screaming we found "life"...so which is it?

Colorblind-2498596 - I'm not sure what kind of bables you deliver...either their heads are WAY too big, or I've been getting really tiny watermelons...

Steve said;

And the MURDER of an UNBORN CHILD is 100% OK in the mind of the left..........

I don't know if you saw the story that was on the news over the weekend. A 16 year old girl in the Dominican Republic as diagnosed with leukemia--at the same time she found out she was 9 weeks pregnant. Because they have a very strict no-abortion policy there--they define life as beginning at the moment of conception--the doctors refused to give her chemotherapy for the leukemia because it would kill the baby. Late last week she went into early labor due to complications from the untreated leukemia, miscarried, then went into cardiac arrest also because of leukemia complications, and died.

What would you have done?

markus said:

...and yet; if we find a single viable one-celled microbe on mars, everyone will be screaming we found "life".

If that single-celled microbe can perform the functions of life on its own-react to the environment, maintain its own existence by consuming food and expelling waste, and reproduce, it is life and it is alive.

An egg in a woman's body is a cell. It is life, but it is not 'alive' in the sense that it cannot react to its own environment, cannot maintain its own existence by consuming and expelling, and cannot reproduce. It is life, but it is not alive. We women flush one or more of these out once a month when the Little Red Friend comes knocking, and there is no outrage over this because it is not alive.

An egg in a woman's body that has joined with a male sex cell is a zygote. It too, would be life, but is not alive. There are times a zygote fails to implant and is flushed out of the body with the uterine lining during the menstrual cycle. there is no outrage over this either because it is not 'alive', even though it has the potential to be. In order for it to become alive it will need to implant to the lining of a uterus which will nourish it for the next 9 months, and at this stage it is a fetus.

Now, somewhere in the middle of that, at about 20 weeks it becomes capable of being alive even if it has been separated from the uterus that nourished it. It might need mechanical help to do so, but it is alive; it reacts to its environment, it consumes and expels waste,and its reproductive organs are formed. While it may need time to mature, it is life and it is 'alive'.

Markus...I don't deliver babies. I said I was a nurse, not a physician, and I am retired. Yes, you must have been getting tiny watermelons. Ok, so, let's say a cantelope...How's that? I assure you it would be very painful to eject a melon from your...well...maybe not yours....Still, it isn't a picnic. Most women are in labor for over twelve hours for their first baby. The uterus is made of a very strong muscle that contracts with a great deal of strength...and it hurts...a lot. It was well worth it in my case, but, I still remember it as an difficult experience.

Well Amanda can't speak for the Dominican Republic; however, I think in any case you can manage the exception. What I have a problem with is abortion as birth control. Obama gave you free birth control so unwanted pregnancies should not be an issue unless in the case of rape or incest. In that case, responsible people would agree that abortion may be a responsible option.

Steve from #4.3... please jump of a bridge. How can you reward a rapist with a lifelong wound? A child is a gift. You said so yourself. Dont give that gift to a rapist. You are a monster for wishing to reward a rapist. Good heavens, save us from monsters like you!

Why is it that the right wing wants the government to keep its nose out of our business unless it's between a woman's legs?

TO: Steve-446003 who wrote:

"Biden can say ANYTHING and the only thing the left does is send him to his room..."

I am NOT offended by anything Joe Biden says.

I am offended by nearly everything Republicans say, from Medicare to a woman's right to choose.

Obama/Biden 2012

@Didi-376564

Steve: Until you, or ANY man for that matter, can have a baby, please shut the heck up. You have NOTHING to say about this subject.

Didi, that is a very true statement. I don't know if you're aware of the fact that one of America's founding fathers agrees with you.

The first person in US history to write an op-ed piece on abortion was Benjamin Franklin, nearly 50 years before the Declaration of Independence. According to Franklin, an abortion was every woman's right and should remain her secret. If any man dared so much as utter the word "abortion", Franklin said women who encounter that man in public should "run the risk" of grabbing him by his beard and "dashing him to the ground".

Your opinion puts you in great company. And just for the record, I am a man and I totally agree with you. I've been saying it for years.

Job1,

I would agree but refer to it as managed fake outrage.

Steve

You want government out of "American's private lives" but you want them to tell women what to do with their own bodies. I, as a woman and a catholic could not imagine a circumstance in my younger life where I would have had an abortion. But that being said....I have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO TELL ANOTHER WOMAN she can or cannot. It is her body, her choice....There are over 1.4 Million abortions performed in the U.S. each year and 83% of them are performed prior to the 7th week gestation period of the fetus. Scientifically....a 7 week old fetus has not developed sensory nerves or a thalamus brain yet, is a cluster of translucent cells that between 7 and 8 weeks takes on an anphibian appearance and is 1/2 inch long and the size of a blueberry.

Now. you may want to refer to this as "murder of an unborn child". But that argument scientifically is not correct. And morally or religiously it is a decision that the woman must make with her own set of circumstances and accept the consequences for herself. I believe for a woman to make a choice of abortion must be probably one of the most difficult decisions she will ever make in her life. But it is her decision, not mine, not yours, and not the governments. According to Cigna, an estimated 43% of all women will have at least one abortion by the age of 45. It is a woman's choice issue....she chooses. she has to live with the moral and ethical and grief for the rest of her life. That choice does not belong in the hands of the government with Republican men.

geterright said;

Well Amanda can't speak for the Dominican Republic; however, I think in any case you can manage the exception. What I have a problem with is abortion as birth control.

I don't, in cases when the child will be born with an incurable disease and live a couple years on life support in agony and die before their third birthday, I'm all for the mother's right to decide she does not want her child to live like that.

Or when low income parents already have a child born with an incurable disease/birth defect that reduces the quality of life considerably and is expensive to care for, and they take precautions but the condom tears/whatever, and they find out the second child will be born with the same defect, the mother has a right to decide she cannot support a second similarly handicapped child and the right to decide she does not want welfare to have to pay for care for this handicapped child either.

Ex-mayor Giulani excoriated Joe Biden for what he said about "unshackling" Wall Street on Face the Nation. He said that it was an insult to blacks in this country. Well I'm white but I feel offended when Rudy tries to pin that on Biden - how can he sit there and knowingly lie on national TV, and then laugh about it? He didn't look too outraged to me. The guy is actually a lawyer so he has to be smarter than that. I'll bet that since Rudy isn't running for anything in November, the Republicans asked him to be the sacrificial pig to further their lie by having it come from a supposedly intelligent Republican. My question for Rudy is "If Joe Biden is such an idiot (Rudy's word - not mine) for saying what he did, what does that make Aken?" I'm waiting for your response, Rudy. Rudy?

Biden can say ANYTHING and the only thing the left does is send him to his room................

If you think anything Biden has ever said in public even comes close to what Akin said, you've got a serious problem with your perception of reality.

Some obscure Republican congressman, who no one has ever heard of, makes an unacceptable and ignorant remark (which Romney condemns, and the RNC punishes by cutting off funding to his campaign) and the media spends days trying to lump this guy together with Romney and Ryan.

But Joe Biden makes the most insidious remarks trying to use the race card to frighten people into voting Obama (since he certainly can't run on his record on the economy), and the media quickly dismissed it as a non-issue, and went back to attacking Republicans. Romney will put "ya'll back in chains", Biden? Really?!

Do you notice the difference? Biden isn't some congressman that Romney and Obama have never even heard of. Biden is on the Democratic ticket. He is the vice president. But his remarks are ignored because the liberals in the media support anything they think will save Obama's campaign! No matter how damaging to the country.

Duqu

Some obscure Republican congressman, who no one has ever heard of, makes an unacceptable and ignorant remark (which Romney condemns, and the RNC punishes by cutting off funding to his campaign) and the media spends days trying to lump this guy together with Romney and Ryan.

FYI, Duqu, there are legitimate (that word again!) reasons to 'lump this guy' together with Romney and Ryan.

Paul Ryan and Todd Akin co-sponsored a bill in congress that would have changed the definition of rape.

The national battle over Todd Akin’s comments about “legitimate rape” has shed light on a “personhood” bill, co-sponsored by Akin and Paul Ryan, called the Sanctity of Life Act.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/how-bad-is-the-ryan-akin-anti-abortion-bill/2012/08/20/c7e37e04-eafe-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_blog.html

Women across America are outraged at the reproductive ignorance of Todd Akin, but Akin is not 'fringe' in his views compared to others in his party. Little by little, states have usurped the rights of women over their own bodies. That is the GOP party platform.

Romney has said (on video) that he would have voted in favor of the personhood law that was proposed in Mississippi. Fortunately, the voters of that state were less conservative than our 'severely conservative' Mittster, and that proposal was voted down.

There are larger issues at hand than the reproductive ignorance of Todd Akin. His attitude towards women is mainstream in his party. We need women's healthcare to stay in the hands of women and their doctors, without the interference of the state.

Funny...I always thought Republicans believed in small government and individual rights.

ha ha ha ha

Job1

Biden can say ANYTHING and the only thing the left does is send him to his room.

Quote: Damn right, because Joe tells the truth. It's funny watching these dumb a$$ tea bag people display the fake outrage.

Even though we all know that you're Feisty's dingleberry, you really ought to find something else to do because you don't bring any intelligence to any of the comment threads I've ever seen you write, just your vile ignorant attacks. Or, if you stay, please try to read and write with some sort of knowledge.

RealAmericansFirst

Why is it that the right wing wants the government to keep its nose out of our business unless it's between a woman's legs?

........so, I guess you prefer to have the government oversee when your nose is there?

What a rude and crude remark.....do you kiss momma with that nasty mouth?

Duqu - "the media spends days trying to lump this guy together with Romney and Ryan."

Actually, Ryan is very well acquainted with this idiot. They co-sponsored a bill that attempted to redefine rape as 'forcible rape'.

These uninformed and very stupid views are shared by the teatard base, and Wrongme and Ryan only disavow it because they can see that it is clearly unpopular, but they secretly agree with this moron.

I am atheist but must comment on the absurdity of the religious right wingnuts who think they need to manage or mismanage other peoples lives for them. I have 1 question.

If someone has an abortion and, according to your bible, GAWD says it is wrong, why not let GAWD sort it all out in the end?

Nowhere in the instruction manual does it say, get involved and do my work for me on the planet of mortality.

Rod_Father

I am atheist but must comment on the absurdity of the religious right wingnuts who think they need to manage or mismanage other peoples lives for them.

I think you got it totally wrong here, bubba.......it's actually a liberals "God" given right to tell other people how to live!

I'm not particularly religious either....but I find it ironic that an avowed atheist knows what is in the bible and what is not. Let me take a wild guess, here - you were brought up catholic but one day while you were still young and impressionable, a priest tricked you into blowing out some "candles"!

Akin didn't misspeak, he said exactly what he thinks! He can't backpeddle on his brutal honesty. Assinine, yes! God help all women, everywhere....

Gotta love the word "mis-spoke". This guy represents the Right? Yeah, right. Just keep digging that hole Akin. You're almost done.

Lisa, you shouldn't call him Mr. He is no Mr he is a scum bag.

Quick - Akin is depressed and has his head stuck up his booty. He needs to go hang out with Jessie Jackson Jr. and be medicated. Boy, kinda blew that one, didn't ya pal.

Is it just me or does Akin really look evil and mean?

logical...If the words define the man...I would have to agree. Usually, I don't decide on looks alone, but his words, in this case, call his character into question. Well, maybe, I am wrong on that one. I doubt if there is any character to question in this case.

Mutt and Ryan have the same mentality but with "Happy Face" masks on. They are just as scary as this Aikin is without a doubt.

And of course he is going to stay "on the race" If he had any shame he would resign. How can ANY WOMAN trust this person?

He is just the classic example of what the Tea Party is: Religious EXTREMISTS, that prefer to give the benefit of the doubt to the RAPIST, AND TO PRESUME THAT A WOMAN'S BODY IS ABLE TO RECOGNIZE the difference between a rapists aand a normal person.

Is there any SURPRISE that we are going DOWN in Math and Science around the globe?

I was thinking that too, logical. Why is it that these bible slapping teabaggers all look like someone that normal people wouldn't leave alone with their child? Why does Ryan's wife look so abused and down-trodden? (look at her the next time a camera catches her without her knowing - there is some serious pain in those eyes).

There is a reason why they look creepy...they ARE creepy. Behind every wild-eyed Bachmann, there's a child molester.

Now if we can just get them all to disown Grover Norquist and his pledge (and yes, that includes the few Democrats who took the pledge, too).

I'm sure Glen Beck is in tears right now.... wait he already was.

Women's health rights are in danger once any Republican gets into office. Women voters - Mutt and Ryan are very scary. But I think you already know that by now. Unless you are under a rock.

I'm sure Glen Beck is in tears right now

Maybe tears of happiness, that someone in the GOP AGREES WITH HIS ASININE IDEAS!!!!

They all are actually whacked out, but they are careful to distance themselves when one of them slips and reveals their empty headed positions.

Actually, 'throw them to the wolves' is more like it. They all know that women are just to be used and tossed away, even the teatard women willingly embrace this role. It is God's will!

When one of them is legitimately raped, it is a different story, but that's her problem. She was probably asking for it.

You must be talking about the vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan!

Vice President or the next President of the United States. Wrongme blew it when he introduced Ryan. This would be just like Bush/Cheney. We know which one would be the real leader. Ryan, the poster boy for uninformed RWNJs across the U.S.!

Honestly the GOP would have an easier time trying with somebody else. The Democratic candidate only has to air the "legitimate rape" soundbite and the female voters will be appalled (for those that aren't already). This one comment can (and probably will) cost him the election.

I hope so. I'm from Missouri and we don't need idiots in suits advertising how stupid some of the politicans truly are. One good thing is at least we know how his mind works. Not very well and that will be taken into account voting day.

Xabre....As it should. This is no "Fruedian slip" here. It is a look into his belief system. Stunning, huh?

This is one of the elitists that want to repeal the 17th amendment in the name of "States'Rights". Because Politicians, like banks and wall street, should be left to regulate their own. He knows what is best of the rest of us.

OK,Alrighty then for all those lawyers out there who need a refresher on the English language,Old English Gaeilic or otherwise I will explain.....in no uncertain terms what R A P E is...Rape is forcing a sexual act on another regardless of gender against their will...incest,marital relations, it does not matter.....IT IS A SEXUAL ACT AGAINST ANOTHER HUMAN BEING'S WILL...Thats it..thats all...thats what a real judge understands..male or female..does not matter...thats what rape is....Carry On..

@Dave...The old English definition has changed. It also includes those that do not have the capacity to consent--like children and those that are mentally challenged. It also includes age that differs by State. Some people will willingly go along with the rapist for many reasons, but they are not capable of consenting. Just a FYI....