So anyway,
This young lad is pulled aside by Security in his local supermarket.
The Officer asks to see what is in his pockets.
The youngster replies, "Sorry I can't do that. Because if you see what's in my pockets, you might arrest me". --What now?

Only two tax returns from each GOP candidate:
1. Are the details in the next ten tax returns too damning to reveal?
2. Are the candidates too far above the common people, to care what we think?
3. Is getting 99% of Americans used to the idea ~ that elites do not have to abide by the same rules as everyone else ~ key to the GOP/Rove/Adelson 0.01% strategy in this election?

What now? Why elect anyone as President who may be lying about/hiding very questionable financial dealings? What is the justification?

(Ed Gillespie is saying Romney will produce his 2011 tax returns by October 15th - three weeks before the general election. What are the odds - probably after the GOP Convention.)

Vetting Paul Ryan:

It has been over a week since Willard Romney selected Paul Ryan as his running mate. It's not Ryan's tax returns that are of interest, but his voting record that is getting considerable attention. Ryan, being a Washington insider has a rather lengthy paper trail that clearly spells out his position on a variety of issues. No matter what he says on the stump, Paul Ryan does not like poor and working-class people.

1.Ryan has voted to cut food stamps by 134 billion dollars. That radical cut would impact 10 million Americans.

2.Ryan wants to cut Medicaid by 1/3. Specifically, that would be a 1.4 trillion dollar cut that would impact 14 million people, most of whom are senior citizens.

3.The Ryan budget would destroy Medicare as we know it today to change it into a coupon system. The Affordable Care Act will cover an additional 30 million Americans, but Paul Ryan wants to deny those people coverage, plus deny care to Americans who have pre-existing conditions.

4.Paul Ryan wants to cut Pell Grants for 1,000,000 students. 74 percent of students with Pell Grants have families who make less than $30,000 dollars a year.

5.Ryan voted against the Lily Ledbetter act which would require equal pay for women. Evidently Ryan does not want women to receive the same benefits of men.

So what we have here is a man who wants take food away from poor families, including their children, remove medical coverage for 30 million Americans, and deny students the opportunity of a college education, and discriminates against women in the workplace. You have to wonder what kind of vision Mr. Ryan has for America. His comments and paper trail suggest he is as cold as his atheist hero, Ayn Rand. Yet somehow in his twisted logic he thinks middle-class Americans should vote for him. That makes no sense.

If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down,"

How many more instances of ignorance & misogyny will women have to endure from now until election day?

The party of small government is obsessed with taking women back to 1920!

Good morning Feisty, Ron, David and Anna,

President Obama showed 12 years of tax returns.
George W. Bush showed 13 years of tax returns.
John Kerry showed 20 years of tax returns.
Bill Clinton showed 16 years of tax returns.
H.W. Bush showed 19 years of tax returns.

Romney is on the cusp of being a 0.01% income earner. Ryan is on the cusp of being a top 1% income earner. Two tax returns are not enough for either candidate.

The Obama campaign offered Romney a deal -- show 5 years in total of returns, and no more would be requested. Romney refused.

. First Read -- You really need to do something about these multiple posts.

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@ Feisty --

Hmmm ... I wonder what went wrong in the case of that 9-year-old Brazilian girl who was impregnated with twins by her stepfather.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1883598,00.html

Or maybe, deep down in her heart, she liked it.

No wonder her mother and physician were excommunicated for facilitating an abortion. I mean, what excuse did they have, even though it was likely that she would die if she had the child?

It's not like she had cancer, or anything.

Or wait, they don't allow that either, in Nicaragua, do they?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/23/nicaragua-cancer-treatment-abortion

What do you say, conservatives? I'd LOVE to hear from you.

Akin, a House Republican, later released a statement saying he had misspoken.

Freudian slip?

This, like Romney's taxes, will drive the leftwing nut jobs out of their freaking minds for the next couple of weeks, and give NBC and the rest of the media yet another excuse not to talk about the economy.

So why did Ryan state in 2002 that unemployment usually lags behind in a recovery? Or does he just have a history of lying?

Hmmm ... I wonder what went wrong in the case of that 9-year-old Brazilian girl who was impregnated with twins by her stepfather.

I swear to God, Anna Molly, the right wing nuts want to bring the "Hand-Maids Tale" to fruition!

I'm not easily frightened, but this crop of the American TEAliban scares the crap out of me!

Feisty,

"You have to spend a little to grow a little". That's what Ryan said about the BUSH Stimulus.

But Ryan did a protonic reversal: When it came to President Obama's stimulus, in a devastating recession.

That wasn't the horse's mouth. Ryan's another part of equine anatomy.

I'm not sure if I'm getting this guy's message right. Sooooo, If you get raped and become pregnant, You enjoyed the experience? If you were "truely" raped you can't get pregnant?

WTF! How does someone like this get elected to ANYTHING?

In before Feisty's community collapse. :)

Is there really any surprised how brain-dead Republicans are on the subject of rape? I mean come on, these guys survive in a bubble of denial about everything factual. Why would rape be any different?

Ryan's another part of equine anatomy.

The west end of a horse facing east..? lol

Does make you wonder what his notion of illegitimate rape is. Clearly, there's a lot more to this that's not making it into press. But really, how does one damage the GOP's branding with women? Could it actually get worse?

I also see the Republitards on this forum won't stick to topic. :D No surprise there either being they look like idiots trying to defend the moron.

Ron,

Rep. Paul Ryan Co-Sponsored Anti-Abortion Bill -- with no Exceptions for Rape, Incest, Mother's Life.

Feisty, Ron, Backhouse, David W, Anna M, some great reading this fine morning. David, that first paragraph made me smile even if it isn't exactly accurate.

Yes, most people need a solid kick in the groin before they wake up to the reality that GOP is the party of people like Todd Akin.

You just got to hand it to some of the republican contributors on here for defending rape.

I also see the Republitards on this forum won't stick to topic

I also see they can't answer simple questions posed to them! ☺

Concern Citizen --

If any of you saw it then you would agree that the message was clear and loud. I'm sure the usual Ideologues on this FR will totally disagree, however those Seniors were taking in the message and that is what counts.

Most of those seniors would have been voting Republican, anyway.

But if you REALLY believe what Ryan is telling you, why don't you put together a request for $20 million in federal aid and see if you can get his staff to sign his name to it for you.

That's what I plan to do. What the heck, why not? His staff would LOVE to help you out, and Ryan obviously doesn't pay attention to what his staff does.

Either that, or Ryan obviously lies.

Your choice.

Does make you wonder what his notion of illegitimate rape is.

I know. Legitimate Rape is what the Republican Congress and Mitt want to do to the Middle Class in America. So illegitimate rape would be anything else. :)

GM has lost about 30% of it's value this year, and continues to lose market share. This while owing the taxpayer about $30 billion dollars, screwing over their pensioners and vendors, and not paying a dime in taxes. To a liberal, that's a success case.

Who started the bailouts of the auto industry? My memory is a little hazy.

Feisty - Akin is just more proof that you have to sink to the bottom of the gene pool to be a Republican. This clown is part of the "less government unless it has to do with controlling women" GOP morons. Didn't you know women can just wish themselves not to get pregnant if they're "legitimately" raped and it works? Did all Republicans fall on their heads as children?

JAS you - of all people - shouldn't be talking about idiots considering how low your posts have become. You're beginning to sound like Concern - and that's not a compliment.

I love that Guilliani believes he should EVER open his mouth. He puts Joe Biden down after he said Sarah Palin was qualified to be President from day one - if necessary. Again, apparently you have to be dropped on your head - from a 3 story building - as a child to be a Republican!

Obama/Biden 2012

a spat that left senior operatives David Axelrod and Stephanie Cutter barely on speaking terms

OMG, a spat.

At my workplace, I'll witness three spats before lunch.

Who started the bailouts of the auto industry? My memory is a little hazy.

Oh that would be a Republican, I think his name was something like Mush, or was it Push? No wait, I remember - Bush.

I kept envisioning a horses a$$ so it was hard to remember his name. :)

Like I said above, Republicans survive in a Bubble of Deniability. No other way to look as stupid as they do yet still spew the same old rhetorical BS they do daily.

The sad part is they aren't just Akin's words. My right wing republican relatives have the same sick opinions. There is always a home and place for the stupid and ignorant in the republican party. Akin proves it!

How do you suppose the Bobbsey Twins R&R will answer the question on most people's minds this morning, What the He!! is a legitimate rape???? What kind of mind does 65 yr old republican Todd Akin have to even think as he does??

We can't wait to hear them spin on this one. Rep Akin didn't apologize he just regretted he misspoke.

Jon Corzine said, "We should, we plan to make all of you work and pay taxes."

I work pretty hard already (55+ hours a week), but that's okay, I can work more hours if you want. But, I WANT to pay more taxes. I can afford them, and I feel that I have a responsibility to help support our government. Taxes are the price we pay for living in a civil society. How dare you say I should pay less!

There have been a few interesting trends in the last week:

1. Illegal immigrants have been "coming out"- In Chicago demanding rights, in Chicago standing in line for jobs, in hearings about immigration, and public protests in various states. Could be all due to the Presidential initiative to get more illegals working, prosecutorial review by police, etc. and it could be a coordinated effort from the pro-illegal immigrant camp.

2. The President's media friends are fraying and straying. The Politico book and the new Newsweek are stepping away from the President. Sure it's only a few examples, but these were two major friends of the President's so it warrants noting.

3. Career politicians made dumb comments/mistakes. The republicans are "exposing" themselves, rightfully so, to criticism by accounts of coed nude swims and making really dumb comments about women's bodies. Not that it's only republicans making dumb comments and doing dumb things, but you'd think that there'd be an "off switch" in the minds of people whom make a living by pandering for votes and good press. I guess not.

Should be an interesting week....

Marty you understand how society works and how we're all a part of the whole. Republicans only want to pay for that which directly affects them and let everyone else fend for themselves and to hell if they die. If you want them to care just label whatever you want them to care about as a "fetus" and they'll foam at the mouth about it. :)

jon corzine Yes you sound like a good rapebulican.

If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," Akin said,

And that folks, is the GOP/TP view of the world. If you are laid off from your job, something magical happens happens and you no longer need a home and you lose your desire for food. If you take away Medicare, poof, your body no longer needs medical attention. If you are in a minority group subject to a vicious attack, hey that's ok, your body loses its ability to feel pain. According to the GOP/TP, with all these God-given built-in natural defenses, why in the hell should society have any rules against rape, racial discrimination, gay bashing, or in favor of fair pay, or entitlement programs. Although the GOP/TP hate Dawrin's law of evolution, they flock to the theory like flies on @!$%# when it involves survival of the entitled.

I bet JoanThorazine is having a conniption about now. :D I ignore the troll so I don't see his comments. ;)

I bet JoanThorazine is having a conniption about now. :D I ignore the troll so I don't see his comments. ;)

He's a chronic re-reg-er anyway from what I gather. He was 'RomneyRyan' the other day doing similar postings. It's best not to acknowledge him.

JonCorzine --

No we don't you azz monkey.

All evidence to the contrary. Get some manners, and then we'll talk.

We should, we plan to make all of you work and pay taxes.

No thanks. I already have a job, but your ignorant condescension is duly noted.

Anna Molly

Most of those seniors would have been voting Republican, anyway.

Anna, most of those seniors voted for Obama in 2008 and are not in 2012.

I have already made up my mind who not to vote fore this November. I see that the attack dog seekingsanity already got the hook. How predictable.

Nobody to take a guess who the lady on the first row from the left was?

Hey IngSanity, Our President has only 3 points higher IQ than Bush. Go ahead and Google it. This means he is as smart or as dumb as Bush. You decide.

JoAnnaSmith1

Akin wasn't talking about women, he was talking about Wall Street. Just like Biden wasn't taking about putting chains back on blacks, he was talking about Wall Street. Sure.

Joanna, this is nothing to make fun of what he said, it was horrible and you as a women should he pissed that any MAN regardless of party affiflication would say that.

then you make fun or lite of what he said and then inject race in to it.

your sick joanna!!!!

He's a chronic re-reg-er anyway from what I gather. He was 'RomneyRyan' the other day doing similar postings. It's best not to acknowledge him.

LOL. :D

First Read:

On the one hand, what Akin said is incredibly toxic, especially when facing a female opponent. On the other hand, Missouri is still a conservative state.

And being a conservative state, it gives a moron candidate like Akin a big advantage. He's ahead of McCaskill in the polls by eight points, once again illustrating that our problems aren't fundamentally the fault of big business or the Koch brothers. The problem is the quality of voters in certain areas.

Nope, no GOP war on women. Not. At. All.

It is a total mystery what kind of men and women raised these arrogant, self-absorbed cretins. Did their mothers and grandmothers inculcate their sons with this stuff toward half the world's population ... 3.5 billion females, or is it the result of dad's misshapen DNA?

So we have Akin telling us what Republicans really think about rape and abortion.

We have the Tea Party with a drunken skinning dipping celebration after the debt ceiling debacle, and the Tea Party downgrade.

We have Romney lying about welfare reform in a 3rd advertisement after its already been fact checked and debunked.

We have Ryan doing a full flip flop on stimulus.........

Things are pretty clear........ Obama/Biden 2012.

No we don't you azz monkey.

Still around rereg Corzine? Must have been a real blow to your ego when you found out the newsvine moderators don't spend the weekend banning your accounts.

Anna Molly - actually most Seniors are listening and will probably NOT vote Republican. They know that Romney's plans would cost them about $6400 per year as opposed to President Obama's plans.

I see that the moronic Concern is telling a different story but we all know she makes up story after story just to see herself post. I swear the mentality of the far right is dropping every day!

Obama/Biden 2012

He's a chronic re-reg-er anyway from what I gather. He was 'RomneyRyan' the other day doing similar postings

James, Seattle - Jason, NYC, ObamaMao, and on and on...

Little twerp re-regs daily!

*popcorn*?

Terrific...nothing like giving a "pass" to the rapist...

because " the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down, "

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Asked directly if seminal federal civil rights legislation that prohibits discriminatory voting proceedures needed to be modified or scrapped, Akin said that states — not the federal government — should set voting rules.

According to Akin, elections "have historically always been a state thing" and that's a "good principle."'

THe Guy is DIVISIVE... and certainly not in favor of a UNITED States of America.
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How do you suppose the Bobbsey Twins R&R will answer the question on most people's minds this morning,

@GBM - I'm sure they will suggest we break out the aspirin. I agree on the apology, the ass will no doubt claim he was taken out of context.

What Akin said,

If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," Akin said, per NBCNews.com’s Mike O’Brien. “But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child.”

So,

I am a male, and I would never even think of saying something like this, to a female audience!

Good luck Missouri in voting in this leftover " Relic Dinosaur " from the 1940's narrow minded and segregationist era!

Only a complete arrogant and ignorant Politician ( male or female), would say something like this on National TV.

BTW: WHAT has the Tea Party accomplished

That's a trick question. A Stonewall is something. :)

Show Me State

From the article above:

His Democratic opponent, incumbent (and vulnerable) Sen. Claire McCaskill pounced: "I think frankly, like most women, when we heard the statement, it was, ‘Are you kidding?’ It was a stunner, just jaw dropping and hard to comprehend."

Vulnerable, no more.

The article continues…

According to last month’s NBC/WSJ poll, President Obama was leading Mitt Romney by 15 points among registered female voters, 54%-39%.

Senator McCaskill is a good person and a real class act.

Show us Missouri! We know you’re a great state. Re-elect Senator McCaskill and while you’re at it, Re-elect President Obama and Take back the House of Representatives as well.

Salud.

Jeff: then you make fun or lite of what he said and then inject race in to it.

Just making a comparison Jeff, on how Biden is handled by the media, and how Akin is being handled. I don't recall FR or anyone else explaining how much time the Democrats had to replace Biden after his idiotic comments from last week (and they were numerous). In fact, political cover was offered for Biden. Akin on the other hand, well, he must go, at least according to the media.

your sick joanna!!!!

It's "you're" Jeff. And what is really sick is how much the media is in the tank for the Democrats. I think many people are pretty sick of that.

If you hold an asprin tightly between your knees, you can't get raped!

JAS1-

They are nothing more than feel good liberal nonsense that does nothing to solve the problem.

Unlike the Republicans, who pass "Voter Fraud" laws to solve a problem that doesn't even exist

They get people like you to swallow this foolishness hook-line-and-sinker, while nothing gets done.

Kinda like the House Republicans voting to repeal Obamacare for the hundredth time.

Results don't matter to a liberal, only how it makes the liberal feel matters

What results have the Republicans in Congress achieved the least few years, other than making things worse?

Just making a comparison Jeff, on how Biden is handled by the media, and how Akin is being handled

Another Republican false equivalency. So you think Biden's off-hand remark about shackles/chains is comparable to a detailed explanation of "legitimate rape"? ONly in the Republican mind. Kinda like Mitt complaining about "personal" attacks when the truth is revealed about his business practices, tax returns or tax shelters - while Conservatives question President Obama's citizenship, religion and patriotism.

Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!

Romney/Ryan: Medicare? We Can Fix End That!

The party of small government is obsessed with taking women back to 1920!

Actually, a little earlier - back to the days of Adam/Eve, you know, when Eve was the concubine of Adam. The GOP/TP prefer the days when that bitch just shut-up and put out. Ya know, it wasn't rape back then either, since in pre-forbidden fruit days, their was no sin or pregnancy.

Feisty, you must have hit a nerve in JoanThorazine's brain. That my friend is a miracle as we all thought he didn't have one. :)

I 'loved' the line that came out of Paul Ryan's mouth on Sat. as he talked before Republicans in the Villages in Central Florida.....he said (lied) nothing will change for you if you are over 65, my mother relies on it........what a crock, as wealthy as they are.

Everyone who lives in the Villages is well off, it is over 98% white and solidly republican as you would expect. Anyone there will not be affected by his draconian cuts, the proposed measures will affect the poor and the unfortunates who have lost much through no fault of their own. These people are not concerned with such things as they live a life of leisure, which is fine, but they shouldn't vote to make others lives continue to be miserable. You wont find any voter suppression laws affecting them and that is wrong. The odds favor the haves, the wealthy and in a democracy that is not a healthy sign.

joncorzine I must say you are the pride of the republican party today! Keep up the good work. I'm sure by reading your posts your getting people to join the republican party just so they could be like you. Looking forward to more of the wealth of knowledge you expose us to in your posts.

Everyone who lives in the Villages is well off, it is over 98% white and solidly republican as you would expect.

It was nothing but a photo-op. I am quite sure his mother USED little Paul similarly when he was young. :)

James, Seattle - Jason, NYC, ObamaMao, and on and on...

Little twerp re-regs daily!

*popcorn*?

I doubt he realizes that there can be potentially serious legal repercussions for chronically breaking the COC and re-registering over...and over...and not just from Newsvine, but from whatever company he used to create the vast number of email accounts he uses to re-register as well.

I doubt he realizes that there can be potentially serious legal repercussions for chronically breaking the COC and re-registering over...and over....

Speaks well of his viewpoints doesn't it? :D

The whole Akin statement reminds me of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

"what else besides wood floats?"

"A duck"

"Correct, so if she weighs the same as a duck, then she's a witch!"

JonCorzine

For all republican that will eventually be banned.

If you're using Chrome.

Go to Settings -> Show Advanced Setting -> Clear Browsing Data.

You are being tracked with cookies.

After you do this, create another email account and off you go.

Actually there are smarter ways to track you which is why your ass is pinged out of here so often.

JoAnnaSmith1

Just making a comparison Jeff, on how Biden is handled by the media, and how Akin is being handled. I don't recall FR or anyone else explaining how much time the Democrats had to replace Biden after his idiotic comments from last week (and they were numerous). In fact, political cover was offered for Biden. Akin on the other hand, well, he must go, at least according to the media.

I don't know what you're whining about. The media spent most of the week in hysterics over Biden's innocuous comment. David Gregory had a whole segment on whether or not it was racist. When Gov. O'Malley of Maryland pointed out that what was more racially tinged was Mitt Romney's false accusations that Obama wanted to end the work requirements for welfare and just write checks to people who won't work, Gregory just gave him a blank look, because that subject wasn't on the corporate media's list of things to be outraged about.

Speaks well of his viewpoints doesn't it? :D

All it would take is a subpoena to his ISP and they will have his legal name and residence. Newsvine already has his IP. Who knows? This type of activity might even be against his ISP's terms of use. Would be a pity if they disconnected him...

Edit: Heh, apparently from his later posts he has no idea what 'IP' is. Also JavaScripts (which I bet Newsvine uses) can obtain his OS, browser, and other information about his computer...all information which is admissible.

After you do this, create another email account and off you go.

Heh, so here he admits to violating the email providers' terms. A first year law student could make this case.

Makes one wonder if those Republican clowns aren't being mentored by Clayton Williams.

President Obama 2012!!

TNS: Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!

Too funny. Well TNS, you appear very upset about the deficit, a valid thing to be upset about. You must be really be upset about the Democrats in general and Nancy Pelosi in particular, when she stated during her inauguration as Speaker back in 2007:

And the American people told us they expected us to work together for fiscal responsibility, with the highest ethical standards and with civility and bipartisanship. After years of historic deficits, this 110th Congress will commit itself to a higher standard: pay as you go, no new deficit spending. Our new America will provide unlimited opportunity for future generations, not burden them with mountains of debt.

Nancy Pelosi - Speaker of the House Inauguration Speech - January 4, 2007

4 years later, there was $5 trillion dollars in new debt.

TNS, you act like one side is to blame for this mess. It's not. It both sides. And for some reason the Left wants to vote in more and more people that will take more and more money from working Americans and spend it on more and more failed government programs. That's just moronic.

The American People: "The Deficit? We built that by letting the people we send to DC spend money we do not have!"

It's our deficit/debt TNS. What do you intend to do about it?

It's our deficit/debt TNS. What do you intend to do about it?

We intend to further cut taxes at the top and increase spending (massively) on the military to increase it. Oh wait, that's the Ryan Plan...

David Gregory had a whole segment on whether or not it was racist.

Houston!

If good old Gotcha Gregory isn't rapping with Karl Rove, he's playing tennis with Paul Ryan!

Real impartial moderator there...

PS: I've pretty much quit watching MTP... it's become a national JOKE!

lol

Yes, I have a static IP everywhere I go.

lol

Would you like to try again? Hint: JavaScripts. P.S. You go?

It may hurt a bit, but a 5% increase in taxes could solve all funding problems and begin to pay down the debt. Republican servants of Grover Norquist have promissed that taxes can only ever go down are the irresponsible children blocking American recovery and prosperity. Time to sac up. GOP policies that Romney wishes to continue have destroyed the middle class and the economy. There is now just the rich, the working poor and the poor.

All Republicans should be swept from government to let the Democrats fix the damage the GOP have caused, again.

No Fair Xabre! you're not supposed to bring up military spending or tax cuts for the rich. Those subjects are off limits! (until after we get elected)

I'm Ryan Romney and I approve this disapproval!

Wait was that a flip-flop?

You get some right wing nut saying something totally assinie about rape, Todd Akin, and the left paints the whole GOP as guilty by association. You get some left wing nut actually accused of raping a woman, Bill Clinton, and the left paints him as a hero. I'll stick with the majority on the right because the left has no credibility on this subject. Words of rape or the action of rape, which is worse?

Biden should have never said what he did and should have taken heat, rightly, for it. However, there is a difference between Biden's remark and Akin's ... Biden's remark could have been meant to be about fiscal slavery to the 1%, not actual historical slavery, but Akin's remark clearly has no legitimate validity.

Neither person should have opened their mouth, but between the two I think Akin's remark was significantly more stupid.

joncorzine You have no shame.

"Legitimate rape." I just love that phrase. It reminds me of those courtroom shows where one side spends hours bringing in witnesses all over the place and the other side just stands up at the end and says "The defense rests."

After you use the two words "legitimate rape" in the same sentence, your opponent doesn't need to say anything else.

JoAnnaSmith1

Jeff: then you make fun or lite of what he said and then inject race in to it.

Just making a comparison Jeff, on how Biden is handled by the media, and how Akin is being handled. I don't recall FR or anyone else explaining how much time the Democrats had to replace Biden after his idiotic comments from last week (and they were numerous). In fact, political cover was offered for Biden. Akin on the other hand, well, he must go, at least according to the media.

your sick joanna!!!!

It's "you're" Jeff. And what is really sick is how much the media is in the tank for the Democrats. I think many people are pretty sick of that.

these is no way on gods green earth can you even try to explain what you said. to make a comparison the way you did, to try and justify your sick comment about what a man said about rape and compaire that to biden about chains.

this MAN, mean sprited MAN said,

In an interview with a Missouri TV station, Akin explained his opposition to abortion, even in instances of rape. “First of all, from what I understand from doctors, [pregnancy from rape] is really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," Akin said

i hope you're mother, grandmother is still with us, or if they are not many they strike you down where you stand for what you said on this blog, justifying his claim of a legitimate rape.

man Joanna, to hate the president is one thing, but to make lite of a crime against women is inexcusable

And they vote for these queens

Do it then.

Have MSNDC start the paper work.

This would be a great story.

Blogger arrested because of his political views. :)

I'm not a lawyer for Newsvine. And by the way, it wouldn't be 'arrested' nor would it be for 'political views'. It would start as a civil matter, not criminal; hypothetically speaking of course.

JAS1-

TNS, you act like one side is to blame for this mess. It's not. It both sides. And for some reason the Left wants to vote in more and more people that will take more and more money from working Americans and spend it on more and more failed government programs. That's just moronic.

What is moronic is to show a quote from before the financial crisis about a pledge to reduce the deficit. The majority of the debt came from TARP, the auto bailouts, and the stimulus plans - none of which could have been foreseen. The Dems were also planning on the Bush tax cuts to expire as scheduled.

The irony is your "white knight" on the deficit, Paul Ryan, voted for all of these programs - TARP, auto bailouts, tax cuts, and the stimulus plans. So yes, Paul Ryan is as responsible as anyone for building this deficit, unlike most politicians he voted for ALL the major legislation that caused it.

The Democrats at least have a reasonable approach to the deficit problem - increase revenue through tax reform, and cut spending (including military spending).

Romney/Ryan want to reduct the deficit by decreasing revenues through tax cuts for the wealthy and increasing military spending. Of course, their plan also calls for unspecified spending cuts and unspecified tax reform - which will balance the budget in 20 years or so.....

To your point, neither side has been trustworthy when it comes to deficits and spending. So which plan makes more sense and has a better grasp of reality? Actual revenue increases and spending cuts, or amorphous "tax reforms and reductions in spending"?

Like I said .......

Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!

Romney/Ryan: Medicare? We Can Fix End That!

I just don't see why Democrats are so concerned with tax records or "the rich". With Obama having been in office simply talk about the accomplishments of Obama over the last 4 years and that will most certainly get him reelected.

I'm sorry FauxBusiness but did you happen to click into the wrong thread again? I thought we're talking about a stupid Republican and his thinking there's such things as Legitimate and Illegitimate Rape. :)

You're excused and apology accepted in advance. :)

The article of the column is a perfect example of the difference between the left and the right. The left believes the actions or statements of one man is an example for every other person in that group. It's disgusting and remenescent of people's justification for racism, sexism, and bigotry.

Besides, I'm pretty sure we quote some statements made by members of the left you'd be less than happy to admit resemble Obama. Does the shooter from the gay & lesbian group exemplify all gays? Didn't think so.

Only two tax returns from each GOP candidate:
1. Are the details in the next ten tax returns too damning to reveal?

Insert statements made by Feisty and others regarding Obama's birth certificate and Fast & Furious document withholdings.

Just because one misinformed backward republican makes a stupid comment doesn't mean that the republican "brand" believes it. I am a republican and find his comments terribly backward and offensive. If this one comment is seen as destroying the credibility of the republican party, then Joe Biden killed the democrats a long long time ago!

Akin it worse… Todd Akin’s remarks not only could hurt the GOP in the MO SEN race; they could further damage the party’s brand with women…

Wow, this came out faster than I thought. The original article is still up on the top of the web page! Good luck libs, you are going to need this hehe. Dont burn it out too fast though!

This is what happens when they cut back on education in our schools and leave the sex education to preachers on Sunday mornings...

Lets face it, no magical politician is going to fix this mess we are in. America is going to have to crash to the ground before it can rebuild. Taxes will have to go up, and social, military spending will have to be cut way back. Niether party will be willing to commit the political suicide that it would take to actually fix our problems. These guys want re-election, and will not be willing to do what needs to be done. Have fun defending the indefensible folks.

This is quite possibly the most idiotic statement that I have ever heard uttered by a politician. Maybe, one other one, "I am not a crook" President Nixon.

JAS write: It's our deficit/debt TNS. What do you intend to do about it?

A lot more than Ryan does. His budget adds $6 Trillion to the deficit, has Trillions in tax cuts for the rich, doubles defense spending and doesn't touch Medicare or Medicare for 10 years.

With so many people unemployed, losing their homes, with programs like medicare and Social security going broke and not going to be available for future generations, with the debt out of control and getting worse as we speak, I'm sure what Americans wants to talk about is Romney's tax returns. Keep up the deflect and ignore campaign Main Stream Media, you have already lost your reputation so no need to try and act like real journalist now.

P.S. Wasn't there a political shooting not too long ago? Haven't heard much about it when compared to the Zimmerman / Martin case, wonder why?

How do you spell 'hypocrisy'? G-O-P

They are just a bunch of woman-hating, economy-killing, hypocrites and they should be voted out of office, each and everyone of them. From dog-catcher to Senate President Pro Tem, if they are GOP they are NOT FOR ME! (or you, or anybody making less than $250K a year!)

Obama/Biden 2012 For the rest of us!

Allen-968499

The article of the column is a perfect example of the difference between the left and the right. The left believes the actions or statements of one man is an example for every other person in that group. It's disgusting and remenescent of people's justification for racism, sexism, and bigotry.

Nobody claimed that Akins' stupid statement was characteristic of what all Republicans. Most of them know that there's no special biological protection that keeps a rape from resulting in a pregnancy. But most of them believe a fertilized egg is a person and some of the big deals in the GOP like Paul Ryan think a woman who's been raped should be forced to bear the child. That's just as stupid as what Akin said, and just as cruel

Insert statements made by Feisty and others regarding Obama's birth certificate and Fast & Furious document withholdings.

A birther crank is not exactly the best person to persuade people that all Republicans aren't morons like Akin.

"Legimate rape." Now that's an oxymoron if I ever heard one! Well, at least it was coming from a moron.

How do you spell 'hypocrisy'? G-O-P

Well, you can spell it D E M S as well. Are you that blind that this does not go on for both sides? Eat the feed you are fed, do not graze beyond the fence!

What's scarry is this lunatic actually hold public office!

This guy represents the Republican party as much as Alan Grayson represented the Democratic party. Both are idiots and Grayson was correctly shown the door by voters. Akin will be on his way out this fall.

I don't know how one female could ever vote for the Republican party. This not your parents's Republican party. It certainly is not mine EVER again. This is one senior citizen that is fed up with the GOP.

Obama/Biden 2012

I lean right fiscally and socially. I make no bones about that. That being stated, Senatorial nominee Akin is completely out of line with his comments and should be carefully reviewed as a viable candidate by Missouri's voters regardless of their party affiliation.

So we should punish the perpetrator, eh? What about the woman in this scenario? Wasn't she penalized for something she didn't even want? If you make an argument that the perpetrator should be penalized should not an equally strong argument be made to REMOVE the penalty from the victim?

JoASS1,

This is an article on rape and you are in here talking about General Motors?

Please provide me with a correlation between the two.

TNS: What is moronic is to show a quote from before the financial crisis about a pledge to reduce the deficit. The majority of the debt came from TARP, the auto bailouts, and the stimulus plans.

Sorry. No. TARP was repaid. The auto bailouts were less that $100 billion, and the stimulus was $1 trillion with interest. That hardly compares to the $6 trillion in new debt under Obama.

I also think it is equally misguided to try and blanket one person's beliefs on an entire party and their belief system, which happens frequently out here.

There are extreme elements on each side of the aisle which do nothing but add toxicity. The same can be said for many of the same ol' respondents who comment daily on this site.

Another day of continous proof like every day before this. I've said it multiple times and believe it warrants saying agian. Republicans would not know honor if it where staring them straight in the face.

So sorry to interrupt your orgasm, First Read Crew, but nobody's "brand" except Aiken's is damaged by his incredibly stupid remarks. Why do you Obama cheerleaders think Aiken's stupidity would affect the entire GOP....oh, yeah, I know....it's wishful thinking!

Common Sense Ed

Biden should have never said what he did and should have taken heat, rightly, for it. However, there is a difference between Biden's remark and Akin's ... Biden's remark could have been meant to be about fiscal slavery to the 1%, not actual historical slavery, but Akin's remark clearly has no legitimate validity

Artur Davis, the former four-term Democratic congressman from Alabama, said Wednesday that Vice President Joe Biden was propagating "racial viciousness" when he said Mitt Romney's regulatory policies would "put y'all back in chains,Biden address his comments to a majority group of African Americans and also when he said " put y'll " it means not me , it means you blacks. ." Biden had racial comments before when he said about Obama, " I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said in the Observer". Biden is a racist bigot, shame on him.

Read more: http://www.kcra.com/news/politics/Former-Obama-campaign-co-chair-Biden-s-remarks-racial-viciousness/-/11797268/16143528/-/10k8g7y/-/index.html#ixzz246ZeTnvj

This Akin guy is an insensitive moron who shouldn't be in public office based on this ignorant comment.

JoAnnaSmith1

TNS: Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!

Too funny. Well TNS, you appear very upset about the deficit, a valid thing to be upset about. You must be really be upset about the Democrats in general and Nancy Pelosi in particular, when she stated during her inauguration as Speaker back in 2007:

And the American people told us they expected us to work together for fiscal responsibility, with the highest ethical standards and with civility and bipartisanship. After years of historic deficits, this 110th Congress will commit itself to a higher standard: pay as you go, no new deficit spending. Our new America will provide unlimited opportunity for future generations, not burden them with mountains of debt.

Nancy Pelosi - Speaker of the House Inauguration Speech - January 4, 2007

4 years later, there was $5 trillion dollars in new debt.

TNS, you act like one side is to blame for this mess. It's not. It both sides. And for some reason the Left wants to vote in more and more people that will take more and more money from working Americans and spend it on more and more failed government programs. That's just moronic.

Actually, the Republicans have most of the blame for the deficit. THEY were the ones who pushed the Bush tax cuts, the two wars (and some but not all Democrats), AND a prescription drug program WITHOUT PAYING for it, eliminating the surplus and sending us into a deficit. We lefties don't usually go into the service of debt reduction (we prefer letting the debt shrink as a size of the economy while having it maintain a constant absolute value), but we're willing to do it so we can reduce the debt and later make investments in necessary areas. And how the hell is Social Security a failed program??? Tell that to the tens of millions of seniors collecting their SS checks.

The American People: "The Deficit? We built that by letting the people we send to DC spend money we do not have!"

It's our deficit/debt TNS. What do you intend to do about it?

Simple; just repeal the Bush tax cuts, cut defense spending, reform entitlements, and bang; deficit is gone.

While I have no info on what Akin meant, and frankly do not worry a lot about most social issues, this scandal should not be news. For 40 years, the once-moderate Republican Party (and yes, it was once moderate) has been taken over by several hard-line conservative groups, among them the neocons, supply-siders, Thomas Dewey (anti-New Deal) conservatives, and the Christian Right. The Christian Right is essentially the Christian version of the Taliban, seeking to impose harsh cultural restrictions of American society. For decades, especially after Roe v. Wade and the rise of Christian fundamentalism in the 1970s after the counterculture's rise in the 60s, social conservatives have dominated the social sphere of the Republican Party, advocating a zero-tolerance policy on things like abortion, gay marriage, and even contraception. The GOP has found a valuable reservoir that is Christian fundamentalism, and has drilled like crazy to maintain that support to enact their draconian agenda. Yet that reservoir is nearly tapped out; the rise of secularism and the changing demographics of America (particularly the growth of minorities) has weakened the social conservative base, as a large number of these social conservatives tend to be blue-collar whites, or "Reagan Democrats." While many of these emerging minorities are socially conservative and religious, they tend to vote Democrat due to immigration and economic policies. If Democrats can hold a monopoly on the minority vote, social conservatism will shrivel, and the Republican Party will be forced to the center (or at least the center-right) on social and economic issues.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

I have, on more than one occasion, suggested that taxes be raised on everyone, across the board. And then, a tax exemption for the same tax should be given to all registered Republicans. Republicans would avoid paying the tax, and other people who don't want to pay the tax could avoid it by changing their affiliation to Republican. That way, the rest of us can do what needs to be done without Republican obstructionism stopping it.

I ran this by a Republican friend of mine, and he was willing to go along with it.

Jeff-1592116

Does make you wonder what his notion of illegitimate rape is.

I know. Legitimate Rape is what the Republican Congress and Mitt want to do to the Middle Class in America. So illegitimate rape would be anything else. :)

Akin may have failed to make his point in dramatic fashion but at least he wasn't making jokes about rape. It's a sad commentary that Jeff's post received 45 positive (checks) making light of something as serious as rape. Shame on you and the people who supported your comment. It's apparent you want to take the attitude of raping women back to a 1920's mentality.

Akin explained his opposition to abortion, even in instances of rape.

Every woman who is pre-menopausal in this country should apply for a passport today. Don't forget your state picture ID and your voter's registration. They can take away your right to choose (maybe) and your right to vote (they're already are trying to) but they can't take away your right to travel, at least not yet! What's next Mr. Akin mandatory pee sticks for all women at the airports and borders?

Backhouse,

"2. Are the candidates too far above the common people, to care what we think?"

I think Romney already answered that question when he said recently that his tax returns are trivial compared to the "big" issues facing the nation. They may be trivial in that respect, but they are not trivial to the voters who will either elect him or not.

I still want to know, if Ryan's Medi-Care plan is so stellar, WHY does it take 10 years to enact?

Just think of all the savings we would have instantly if it effected everyone instead of those under 55...

It's the same lack of logic that tax cuts pay for themselves. If tax cuts pay for themselves than why not cut taxes for everyone to zero? Because tax cuts DON'T pay for themselves, and for Pete's sake the rich still need roads and bridges and safety and an educated workforce, etc., so if taxes were zero how would there be any government to do anything especially the Military Industrial Complex, OMG?!

And don't ya just love Paul Ryan's plan that never balances the budget, because after giving even more tax cuts to the richest 1% and even more defense spending, even after all loopholes like the mortgage credit are cut, there still isn't any money to pay the bills. Enough with this "not wonky" BS, and enough with the lies.

The work for welfare lie is the worst so far because it is racist. Romney/Ryan are not only despicable liars the dog whistles are inexcusable.

Agenda 21 says it all....and by the way Obama got into Havard with a C avg. only and beat out im sure many high IQ'd kids cauz oh yeah he deserved it!!!! If you don't make the grade then what the h*%^....and yes went on our taxpayer dime all the way....So all u welfare babies that haven't done a damn thing for America well there's still a chance for u all!!! Ha ha ha....what a joke this President is.....Puppet for the Goldman Sach's As*&^%$ who were and are on his advisor...czar...list....wake up and smell the crap in WA D.C.....

Concern Citizen: I have already made up my mind who not to vote fore this November.

Don't you feel just a bit sad that the GOP can't seem to come up with a candidate you can get solidly behind and excited about?

Negativity has taken over the entire GOP in the last decade or so. You never hear anymore "HERE'S the guy I want to vote for!" It always seems to from the negative, as in "here's who I'm not voting for".

Yeah, Newsweek doesn't lean too far right does it?

Akin “In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it's clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year.”

from the Kock/GOP policies.

According to Akin, elections "have historically always been a state thing" and that's a "good principle."'

I take it he wasn't commenting on Bush v Gore.

Once again illustrating that Conservatism isn't about consistency of thought or principle, it's an independent series of talking points intended to sell policies beneficial to the wealthy elites.

JoAnnaSmith1

TNS: What is moronic is to show a quote from before the financial crisis about a pledge to reduce the deficit. The majority of the debt came from TARP, the auto bailouts, and the stimulus plans.

Sorry. No. TARP was repaid. The auto bailouts were less that $100 billion, and the stimulus was $1 trillion with interest. That hardly compares to the $6 trillion in new debt under Obama.

Then let's get to reallity...

Unfunded war in Iraq (Bush), unfunded war in Afghanistan (Bush), unfunded creation and massive expansion of Homeland Security (Bush), unfunded Medicaid (Bush), unfunded tax cuts (Bush), and tax cuts for the rich that actually DISCOURAGE business reinvestment (Bush while Romney wants to take it down even further)

= $500 Billion

Economic collapse brought on by poorly funded glad-handing regulators (or lack of same), causing a huge reduction in taxes collected (Bush).

= $500 Billion

The Stimulus, increasing unemployment benefits, increases in virtually all support systems for those suffering the most from the economic loss, increases in regulatory organizations to protect the economy (decimated by Bush), increases in auditors to reduce fraud and to collect back taxes (decimated by Bush).

= $300 Billion

Wow! What do you know! $500 Billion + $500 Billion + $300 Billion = $1.3 Trillion! (Our deficit)

Yep, that damn Obama sure got his way with all these social programs and his liberal agenda, didn't he?

Only a fool would swallow THAT non-sense!

We do have a problem, but it's not because of Obama or his lack of trying to fix it.

Akin, a House Republican, later released a statement saying he had misspoken.

MISSPOKE MY A$$!!!! Akin is just back-peddling now because he got called out on his rape comments!! Until he has qualified and accurate medical proof of his knowledge on the woman's body, he needs to shut the hell up!!!!

All you need to know about the House repubs is that Akin is on the Science and Tech. Committee and Bachmann is on the Intelligence Committee.

Oh Dear Lord Doug! and I'm supposed to sleep how well tonight? ;-)

Why was David Walker at #1.4 collapsed? I, a 68yr old baby-boomer, ex hippie, retired woman from California would second everything and add a few more things to correct the heading of the ship of state. First and most important is to repeal the part of the NDAA that gives the Army authority over civilians here or abroad, and no drones over US soil. THEN, I'll sleep better at night, especially if Obama is followed in office after his next term by a right wing nut job...

I'm going to register as an independent after this election, so I'll be polled by both sides.

Obama 2012 (If not Biden for vp, maybe someone who can keep his/her foot out of mouth, geesh!)

With due respect to those that love their republican party, Just remember this was a hot button issue just 2-3 months ago. Now Akin makes this "bonehead" comment you know it's something the DON'T want to re-open as it was a losing issue the first time. That's why so many republicans are calling for him to drop out of the race. I'm not saying it's an issue for republicans BUT it's definitely an issue they don't want to relive again.

Todd Akin's statement is representative of the entire Republican Party. Of course they'll spin it, twist it and lie like hell to try and make his words disappear but sorry guys the cats out of the bag. Akins words prove once again that the Republican Party is nothing more than a desperate group of small minded people clinging to a dying philosophy.......... The Republican party is suffering from a fatal illness call ignorance and hate the sooner it dies the sooner America will truly start to heal.

Akin may have failed to make his point in dramatic fashion but at least he wasn't making jokes about rape

Comedy has a place in society and is cathartic; stupidly ignorant Republicans have no such benefit to society.

Exactly true, Big Al. Akin didn't say something he doesn't believe, he said something those of us outside the Christian Fundamentalist wing of the GOP aren't supposed to hear. His belief is common within the Conservative base. http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/rep-todd-akin-wrong-not-alone

DEMOCRATIC Congressman has SEX with 17 year old..... doesn't even make the headlines.....

REPUBLICAN candidate makes stupid comment..... FRONT PAGE, 24x7 news............

Words, Steve, nothing but words. You don't even provide a link or other information so we can evaluate or comment...it doesn't even rise to the level of a good deflection.

So, what do you think of Akin's bigoted, scientifically inaccurate statement? HE obviously believes it or he wouldn't have said it. Do YOU believe him?

The latest edition of Men Behaving Badly...

Todd Aiken Republican Missouri candidate for Senate

6 Republican Congressmen wild partiers in Isreal, including skinny dipping in the Sea of Galilee, just days after a wicked fight over the debt ceiling caused our credit rating to drop.

Really can we afford to have such neanderthals working for us in Congress?? We pay for them to do our work, we provide them with excellent benefits that many of us cannot afford. Are we such big suckers to continue with this?

The gremlins are out in earnest this morning posted this originally on another thread...not sure how.

NoJo

Even that pales by comparison to the contempt in which he holds the serious press. He actually thinks there is no difference between the Washington Press Corps and People Magazine.

Perhaps he realizes that the two have vastly different audiences. It is tantamount suicidal to ignore either. I see it as smart politics and perhaps that is the fly in your ointment, that the Dems are playing smart.

Good morning IR... great info.

Especially when we read of the escapades and statements from the mouths of these cretins we pay to represents. Talk about a waste of money....our money, the taxpayers money.

Here it is only Monday morning and NoJoe is already hard at work---turning ANYTHING posted on FR into an attack on President Obama. Nice try at deflection, No Joe, but, as IR might say, that dog won't hunt.

IR--thanks for sharing this article. I have long believed that people didn't understand the impact of the Bush tax cuts in creating (for the first time) a preferential class of income for interest and dividends. The carried interest tax break is a clear example of lobbying success--there is no reason for it to be a preferential class either. The GOP reminds me of the carnival guys with the shell game--they get the electorate's attention focused on shiny objects while they carry out their true agenda of enriching the 1%. Well, it is time we all quit being fooled by the shiny objects.

Excellent information, IR. Your added thoughts are excellent as well. Romney wants to continue the oil/gas/coal subsidies but eliminate the wind-energy tax credits which are to promote and grow a green, renewable energy source!

The amount of money removed from the tax system is staggering. Time to overhaul the tax code again to eliminate the special loopholes which have slowly worked their way back into the system after Reagan said he didn't realize "it was that bad" and instructed Congress to overhaul the system. If these kinds of loopholes and special treatment were eliminated, everyone could pay a lower income tax rate once we paid down the debt.

Oh Romney !!!

Where are your taxes !!!

Steeler Fan, if Snookie Joe ever posted anything but a daily rant about President Obama to deflect off the subject, the sky would fall.

What is Mitt Romney hiding? Why won't he release his taxes?

BTW, while I disagreed with most everything Ronald Reagan did, he gets a gold star for pushing the tax code overhaul.

Paul Ryan says he's going to close loopholes to balance the budget, but you know it's not going to be the loopholes that keep Mitt's tax rates below the middle class pays. Too many lobbyists spent too much money buying the votes of senators and congressmen to put those loopholes in the tax law for the GOP to ever want to close them, budget deficit hysteria notwithstanding. Remember, Ryan was opposed to closing loopholes that Democrats proposed to pay for keeping student loans at a lower interest rate. He's opposed to loopholes in principle, but in practice? Nope.

I would like to propose that the Charitable Contributon deduction be eliminated for offerings/tithes to churches and other religious organizations.

This has less to do with Romney and more to do with the increased political activism of today's large denominations. Both the Catholic Church and the Morman church seem to believe it is okay to spend enormous sums of money on political issues.

If these churches feel compelled to do that, they should lose their tax-exempt status. At a minimum American taxpayers should no tbe subsidizing this political activity by allowing donations to churches to be tax-exempt.

@IR and Jody:

Excellent posts, and they clearly point out this country loves welfare, also known as 'preferential treatment' for corporations and the wealthy elite, even though they pay next to nothing to support those entitlements. Meanwhile, the best Romney/Ryan can offer is to eliminate entitlements for people that have spent a lifetime paying into systems that should pay a return. The scams from the GOP/TP never cease. Perhaps our next question to team Romney/Ryan should be, 'Will you be legitimately raping us when you end entitlement programs?"

Can we all agree that realclearpolitics.com is not a news source? Even they admit it: Their banner says "Opinion, News, Analysis, Videos and Polls."

I have long believed that people didn't understand the impact of the Bush tax cuts in creating (for the first time) a preferential class of income for interest and dividends.

Since 2006, Democrats have had every opportunity to overturn the tax cuts and did not. Just maintaining the label of "Bush tax cuts" doesn't take away the blame from who's been extending them. Besides, have you even looked at payouts in interest rates and dividends since 2007? I guarantee you that the "rich" aren't the slightest bit interested in less than 1% returns.

Can we all agree that realclearpolitics.com is not a news source?

Sure, when, and only when, we can all agree and stand by the same claim for Fox News.

Oh, it's only now that this one particular Missouri troglodyte damages the unbelievably dignified Republican brand?

Newsflash, Republicans: this college-educated, high-earning, birth control-using, wife/mother/Slut (that's what your spokesperson Rush calls gals like us, right?) is no doubt one of millions who will avoid the Gross Old People party as others avoid bear traps, dark alleys, and the Spanish Inquisition (much as you'd like to bring back your own American Jesus version).

While we're all waiting for Princess Mitzi to release his tax returns -- Jesus in fact may return before then -- how about all of you take your dirty old men, your young bullies, your unbalanced Michelle Bachmanns and Sarah Palins, and retreat to a rocky land where you can live in a state of perpetual religious war? I hear there's a lot going on in Afghanistan, and your attitudes about women should fit in nicely there. Scram. Have fun.

With so many people unemployed, losing their homes, with programs like medicare and Social security going broke and not going to be available for future generations, with the debt out of control and getting worse as we speak, I'm sure what Americans wants to talk about is Romney's tax returns. Keep up the deflect and ignore campaign Main Stream Media, you have already lost your reputation so no need to try and act like real journalist now.

P.S. Wasn't there a political shooting not too long ago? Haven't heard much about it when compared to the Zimmerman / Martin case, wonder why?

This guy is a queen

Mr. Romney, where are your taxes?

Mr. Boehner, where are the jobs?

Mr. Akin, where is your head at?

GOP = MIA

First Read / First Thoughts should change their name to DNC Memo Read & Obama's Thoughts. Much more accurate and a little more catchy.

Yes, most people need a solid kick in the groin before they wake up to the reality that GOP is the party of people like Todd Akin. They would rather call Obama an Islamist and question his birth certificate rather than address the REAL problems facing America. Not that I support Obama on most things, but these guys are a total joke.

When FIRST you practice to step on your Wilbur....

it becomes Standard Operating Procedure .

WHEN will the GOP stop stompin on theirs ?

Is there really no end to the stupidity in the candidates the GOP brings forward to a general election?

What a long lost party. My condolences.

LogicReguired

First Read / First Thoughts should change their name to DNC Memo Read & Obama's Thoughts. Much more accurate and a little more catchy.

NeoRepublican rule number 5: If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger.

"When they show you who they are...believe them"

JAS write: It's our deficit/debt TNS. What do you intend to do about it?

A lot more than Ryan does. His budget adds $6 Trillion to the deficit, has Trillions in tax cuts for the rich, doubles defense spending and doesn't touch Medicare or Medicaid for 10 years.

The Shepards have determined that the flock responds much more enthusiastically to sheeple cat nip over the usual sustainable diet of ideological oats. This will cause a short term burst of euphoria at the expense of traditional grazing sustainability! Life spans of the sheeple are predicted to be cut short!

"When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, then there's no end to what you can't do."

Stupid people are funny - until they vote TeaTardlican...

Todd Adkin's (GOP's Nominee for the MO, Senate seat) remark has regressed all the way back to the "Dark Ages of Feudalism". Vote to keep this schmuck, male chauvinistic pig out of the Senate. We don't need anymore of the "imbecilic, big mouth, drug addicted" comments like Rush's in the House or the Senate.

Melissa said;

Oh, it's only now that this one particular Missouri troglodyte damages the unbelievably dignified Republican brand?

What about Iowa Republican Rep. Steve King who said earlier this month that if it's legal to take your kids to see a boxing or wrestling match, it should also be legal to take your kids to see a dogfight or cockfight. He basically said anyone who wants to prohibit animals from fighting but not prohibit people fighting had their 'priorities mixed' up.

"Ok sheeples, its time for sheering! I know, its unpleasant... but necessary! I promise more euphoria later, maybe when Romney releases his tax return! But I am sure more sheeple nip will become available before then! Have faith!"- The Shepard

Females of certain mammalian species, notably rabbits (there may be others but I'm not sure of those at the moment) can spontaneously reabsorb a fetus into their bodies if the time isn't 'right'--the colony is overcrowded, they are in the middle of migration, etc. and therefore prevent production of offspring at a time when it would be dangerous to the collective colony to do so. It is scientific fact, and it has been documented in nonfiction and in fiction such as Richard Adams' book 'Watership Down'.

In the novel mentioned above the author anthropomorphizes rabbit colonies and relationships, ascribing to the rabbits in the story human characteristics. One female rabbit is raped and her body reabsorbs the fetus. However, important note; this is FICTION and the book is about RABBITS.

Dear Representative Akin;

I don't know where you you got the information that a human female is capable of shutting down reproductive processes in instances of rape, but the information itself is erroneous and flawed. While trauma, stress, emotional issues arising from financial and economic instability from an unwanted pregnancy MAY cause a miscarriage, it is not common and does not happen often. One needs only to look at the women in the deportation camps in Germany of the 30's to see the numbers of female internees who became pregnant due to rape by the camp guards, which are well-documented. You need only to look up cases of young children, as young as nine or ten, who give birth to the children of their molesters, to see the reality.

We women would like to invite you to sit down and talk to us. Get to know us. Visit a battered women's shelter, talk to rape crisis counselors, look at the statistics. Please feel free to bring whatever medical professional advised you so that he/they too can be informed of the reality of rapes resulting in births.

Thank you.

I have the solution to all this nation's problems... Divide the country into north and south, then allow the sides to make their own rules / laws.

Allow citizens to move the the side of their choosing. Allow those same people to take with them their Bibles, guns, and MONEY, and allow the others to take with them their European, Socialistic, welfare, open border whether legal-or-not mentality.

Cease communications for 3 consecutive presidential terms (4 years with each "side" having their own president-elect). Have UN monitors stationed on the sealed border between north and south & monitor the changes. After the 3 presidential terms, have the UN issue its unbiased 3rd part status of the two nations and see who is better off...

If we can't work together, and we are past the point of even trying, why stay together? It's like a bad marriage!

Logic

With so many people unemployed, losing their homes, with programs like medicare and Social security going broke and not going to be available for future generations,

Given all of this, why would you... or any Republican... oppose abortion? We can not afford our current population. We can not afford the current size of the welfare pool. And the current future generations will not have SS or medicare.

So what possible, "logical" explanation, do YOU have, to support the idea of increasing the population size? For f***s sake... we can not afford the current population, so why the f*** do you want to increase it?

Come on, use the Republican "logic" that we hear so much about.

"Ok, its time for a branding sheeples! I know I know, you havnt had another dose of sheeple nip since the sheering...but it is necessary! Something is bound to come down the pipe, with much more euphoria to come! Keep on baaaaaaa'ing, and a new promise will arrive!" - The Shepard

Willard, We the American People are STILL WAITING on you to release YOUR tax returns!!!!! You are hiding something and you want us to vote for you!!!???????

Just think for a moment that if President Obama did not release his tax returns and told the American People to "Just Believe Me"!!! Of course that will not fly!!!! If there is nothing to hide, then what is the problem!!!

What if I walked into the nearest Lottery Office and told them that I had the winning ticket, just give me the money without showing proof, they would call the police!

Willard you have lost the election!! You are sinking in the Polls and you have wasted your time and money!!

America will not vote for the "Wizard of Oz" figure hiding behind the curtains, and a lying running mate who is on tape praising "Stimulus" "and trashing Medicaid.

Go and complete your "Car elevator"!

Obama/Biden 2012!!!

Akin is running for A Senate seat in Missouri, he has already been blasted by both Romney and Ryan who are running for President, and many Republicans have said they wish he would step aside. So how this guy is representative of the GOP since it seems none of them want to come to his defense yet see it as a chance to throw him overboard is a mystery. (Not really a mystery, I'll give you a hint Mainstream Media.) Akin is an idiot who no one should vote for, now can we move on to the ECONOMY, AND the 40+ months of unemployment over 8%?Can we talk about the worst recovery in American history? Can we talk about some of Obama's 2008 campaign promises about the economy?

Oh wait, that wouldn't be favorable to Obama, lets see what else can the lamestream mediacome up with to distract and deflect. I'm guessing the pull the race card next, or maybe they will just keep asking for tax returns LOL. What a joke the media has become.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/08/18/Powerful-Video-Prager-University-Proving-Media-Bias

"Ok sheeples.....its time for slaughter :( You can feel proud that you have served your Shepard well. I am sorry for the promises that I could not keep, but I assure you, I meant well. Carry with you, the final thought, that you fought honorably, and the bounty of your work will be enjoyed, and cherished by me and my family. Die honorably sheeple"! - The Shepard

Do not compromise your lives and way of living for the promises of a self serving authority! More metaphors to come during a sheeple nip frenzy in the near future!

What a maroon!

Typical GOP IQ. Entry level for GOP ticket for public office; 75, Senate, 80, POTUS 87 to be a member of GOP party; 61. Pretty much sums it up. No wait, a course in Creationism with at least a D.

What's the difference between Augusta Country Club and the Grand Oldmisogynist Party?

For the first time in its 80-year history, Augusta National Golf Club has female members.

The home of the Masters, under increasing criticism the last decade because of its all-male membership, invited former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and South Carolina financier Darla Moore to become the first women in green jackets when the club opens for a new season in October.

Both women accepted.

Obama 2012/Romney 1040

Independent Redneck Va.

Report: Taxpayers subsidize exec pay by $20 billion annually

First of all IR, good post. Nice and clear. Secondly, don't worry! Those $20 billion are going straight to the almighty job creators, who will magically create millions of jobs and save America!!

LogicReguired

With so many people unemployed, losing their homes, with programs like medicare and Social security going broke and not going to be available for future generations, with the debt out of control and getting worse as we speak, I'm sure what Americans wants to talk about is Romney's tax returns. Keep up the deflect and ignore campaign Main Stream Media, you have already lost your reputation so no need to try and act like real journalist now.

Romney's tax returns play well with each of those topics that you just stated. The fact that he pays an extremely low tax rate compared to the money that he makes is a big reason why the deficit is so high (as revenues are far below the 18% average). In addition, people like Romney have been getting special tax breaks and regulatory perks (aka corporate welfare), yet when it comes to social programs for everyone else Republicans just want to cut and cut and give more in welfare to the wealthy (focuses on entitlements and social programs). Millions of people are out of work and losing their homes because their wages have not risen (thanks in part to anti-labor government policies and businesses aggressively fighting and defeating private-sector unions) enough with the cost of living, forcing them to rely on credit rather than savings and building up massive debt, causing the financial recession (along with lax regulations supported by men like Romney on financial institutions). I'm more than willing to discuss these problems; just have Romney release his tax returns and man up about how he wants to fix the budget (even if he wants to "balance" it by giving the middle and lower classes the boot and then squandering the savings on a tax cut for the wealthiest Americans).

Allen-968499

I have long believed that people didn't understand the impact of the Bush tax cuts in creating (for the first time) a preferential class of income for interest and dividends.

Since 2006, Democrats have had every opportunity to overturn the tax cuts and did not. Just maintaining the label of "Bush tax cuts" doesn't take away the blame from who's been extending them. Besides, have you even looked at payouts in interest rates and dividends since 2007? I guarantee you that the "rich" aren't the slightest bit interested in less than 1% returns.

Repealing tax cuts are not as easy as you make it out to be; anybody who repeals tax cuts will get branded as a "tax and spend" liberal, and will probably be kicked out come election year.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Why not Obama

In his inaugural address, Obama promised “not only to create new jobs, but to lay a new foundation for growth.” He promised to “build the roads and bridges, the electric grids, and digital lines that feed our commerce and bind us together.” He promised to “restore science to its rightful place and wield technology’s wonders to raise health care’s quality and lower its cost.” And he promised to “transform our schools and colleges and universities to meet the demands of a new age.” Unfortunately the president’s scorecard on every single one of those bold pledges is pitiful.

In an unguarded moment earlier this year, the president commented that the private sector of the economy was “doing fine.” Certainly, the stock market is well up (by 74 percent) relative to the close on Inauguration Day 2009. But the total number of private-sector jobs is still 4.3 million below the January 2008 peak. Meanwhile, since 2008, a staggering 3.6 million Americans have been added to Social Security’s disability insurance program. This is one of many ways unemployment is being concealed.

In his fiscal year 2010 budget—the first he presented—the president envisaged growth of 3.2 percent in 2010, 4.0 percent in 2011, 4.6 percent in 2012. The actual numbers were 2.4 percent in 2010 and 1.8 percent in 2011; few forecasters now expect it to be much above 2.3 percent this year.

Unemployment was supposed to be 6 percent by now. It has averaged 8.2 percent this year so far. Meanwhile real median annual household income has dropped more than 5 percent since June 2009. Nearly 110 million individuals received a welfare benefit in 2011, mostly Medicaid or food stamps.

Is this the tranformation thet Obama promises?

Welcome to Obama’s America: nearly half the population is not represented on a taxable return—almost exactly the same proportion that lives in a household where at least one member receives some type of government benefit. We are becoming the 50–50 nation—half of us paying the taxes, the other half receiving the benefits.

Obama the champion of Debt

And all this despite a far bigger hike in the federal debt than we were promised. According to the 2010 budget, the debt in public hands was supposed to fall in relation to GDP from 67 percent in 2010 to less than 66 percent this year. If only. By the end of this year, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), it will reach 70 percent of GDP. These figures significantly understate the debt problem, however. The ratio that matters is debt to revenue. That number has leapt upward from 165 percent in 2008 to 262 percent this year, according to figures from the International Monetary Fund. Among developed economies, only Ireland and Spain have seen a bigger deterioration.

Not only did the initial fiscal stimulus fade after the sugar rush of 2009, but the president has done absolutely nothing to close the long-term gap between spending and revenue.

Obamacare will add more Debt for years to come. It will affect the young generation.

His much-vaunted health-care reform will not prevent spending on health programs growing from more than 5 percent of GDP today to almost 10 percent in 2037. Add the projected increase in the costs of Social Security and you are looking at a total bill of 16 percent of GDP 25 years from now. That is only slightly less than the average cost of all federal programs and activities, apart from net interest payments, over the past 40 years. Under this president’s policies, the debt is on course to approach 200 percent of GDP in 2037—a mountain of debt that is bound to reduce growth even further.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek.html

We had the worst recession since the Great Depression, but Obama make the worst recovery in history.

R&R 2012

If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," Akin said

WTF kind of rock has this man been living under for the last 60 years???? That kind of statement sounds like something out of the Dark Ages! There is absolutely no science showing that fertility is dependent upon a woman's enjoyment of sexual intercourse.

If that were truly the case, I am sure his wife would have never conceived........ ZING!!!!

I am hoping that the rest of the republican party will wake up and set a new rule that if a candidate doesn't understand how the female reproductive organs work, or how birth control works (much like Mitt doesn't), then that is a topic they should not have a position on at all!!!! You can't make decisions for the people if you don't know what you are talking about. Anything short of a good comprehension is absolutely unacceptable!

It makes you wonder what kind of backwoods fables they are teaching their kids in the red states. Never mind Darwinism, they can't even get basic human anatomy correct!!!!

When OBAMA was going to take the office of the Presidency he was not aware that the GOP Congress was going to sabotage the Government where what he said he was going to do would become impossible to accomplish, put the blame where it belongs on the REPUBLICANS. Democrats don't walk around with their eyes closed and know how and why the country is in the mess it's in, it's about time that the REPUBLICANS open their eyes instead of following the GOP over the cliff. ****** OBAMA 2012 ******

We’ve already had three CEO presidents: Herbert Hoover, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney. How’d that work out for us? Why would we want a Wall Street Raider who create this financial collapsed in 2008?

The Republican brand was damaged more severely when the Tea Party threats to take the country over the fiscal cliff caused our credit rating to be lowered.

Republican brand was also damaged by Romney.

Romney Voter Fraud?

"Tax returns require taxpayers to state their residence address, and the Romney returns already produced, although partially redacted, state clearly that they lived in 'Belmont, MA 02478' in 2012 (tax year 2011) and 2011 (tax year 2010)... But the Romneys, arbitrarily, refuse to disclose a copy of the returns they filed in 2010 or 2009 (for tax years 2009 and 2008) - which, perhaps not coincidentally, bracket the time period when Romney allegedly committed fraud by voting in Massachusetts when he actually resided in California. So here's the question: did Romney put his son's basement's address on the returns he filed in 2009 and 2010? Or did he truthfully use his real (non-Massachusetts) address, thus implicating himself in voter fraud?" [Guardian]

Wait! Wait! You mean to say that these devout congressmen got wet jumping into the seaa of galilee?

Wow! I still have a holy card from sixth grade which clearly depicts a blonde blue-eyed Jesus standing right on top of the water and his sandals aren't even wet. These guys obviously don't have the right faith. In any of their religious right pandering and oligarch worship do suppose they ever ask what would Jesus do?

I suppose not. Fear is the answer. Boogah Boogah

I have a question... if Richie Mitts were to be forced to show his tax returns for say, the past 5 yrs or so...would that be considered legitimate or illegitimate rape?

Given all of this, why would you... or any Republican... oppose abortion? We can not afford our current population. We can not afford the current size of the welfare pool. And the current future generations will not have SS or medicare.

So what possible, "logical" explanation, do YOU have, to support the idea of increasing the population size? For f***s sake... we can not afford the current population, so why the f*** do you want to increase it?

Come on, use the Republican "logic" that we hear so much about.

So you're saying we should be for abortion for "population control"? What If that doesn't work, should we raise the number of months you can be pregnant and still have an abortion? 8 months? 9 Months? If we are still "over populated" like you say should we start aborting the elderly who no longer contribute? Maybe raise the age of abortion again to any child under the age of 6 months?

I like Romney and Ryan support the right of abortion for women who have been raped, incest, and in life threatening situations. I do not support ending the life of an unborn baby for the sake of convenience. The stopping of someones heart is usually considered murder, unborn babies have heart beats after only 20 - 22 days, and can feel and interpretpain by the fourth week. It's a life with it's own DNA. You can continue to fight to destroy this, and I will continue to fight to save it. Yes I agree some situations abortion should be allowed, but you know as well as I do 99% of abortions target poor people who don't want to be inconvenienced.

...and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year.

Akin could not possibly feel empathy for women who have been raped. Empathy means you have experienced being raped and know the terror that comes with such an experience. I daresay he has not had this happen to him. What a jerk.

I have a question... if Richie Mitts were to be forced to show his tax returns for say, the past 5 yrs or so...would that be considered legitimate or illegitimate rape?

Rape of a private citizen by a corrupt government?

You do know we have a Government Department called the IRS who's job it is to look at tax returns and decide if any laws were broken? They have obviously found nothing so he is breaking no laws which still exist under Obama, so what are you complaining about? You think Americans should pay not take advantage of tax shelters tax laws to limit their liability? You take any deductions on your tax return? Take advantage of 401k's tax free investment opportunities?

How many years of tax returns did Obama give before his 2008 election?

The sad part is that the republican party is full of other creeps like Akins and the blind vote for them! An overdose of FOX brainwashing diet!

I understand that the GOP has to concentrate the election on the economy. However, you can slam Obama only so much, until you have to state your own plan. The GOP's only plan is tax cuts, for the rich, and spending cuts for the poor.... oh, and deregulation. ALL of which will only make things worse. SOoooo, they don't REALLY bring up the economy, except to slam Obama and then go quiet. Works for them, until one of them tries to crawl into women's vagina's....... again.

clwyd-2621393

The sad part is that the republican party is full of other creeps like Akins and the blind vote for them! An overdose of FOX brainwashing diet!

One the enjoyments of coming here daily is I get to feast on the liberal counterparts to Akin by reading the liberal copy and paste orders for the day. It's quite entertaining, sad but still entertaining.

Bentbrass,

Feast on this! I was a Young Republican for years and voted for Goldwater, Reagan and Nixon. Then I saw how far right the party was going and how it reminded me of the events before 1939 in Germany. Now Goldwater, Reagan and Nixon would be considered liberals to in the party of the sick! Heil!

Bentbrass,

Glad to see that nobody, so far, agrees with you, but that I have a following. Your ignorance as to who is really running the republican party is amazing. it is or should be scary to us all and the similarities to Germany keep multiplying!

clwyd-2621393
Your ignorance as to who is really running the republican party is amazing. it is or should be scary to us all and the similarities to Germany keep multiplying!

My ignorance? It appears that you're the one with 10 followers marching in lockstep.

Let's take a look at that comparison:

• One of Obama's first acts was an attempt to eliminate Fox from the WH press corps and the Dems have tried to implement the "Fairness Doctrine". Hilter prevented dissenters from using the radio.
• Hitler was an environmentalist, vegan and into eastern mysticism. Today's group that follow these aren't exactly right leaning.
• Hitler took Easter out of schools, eliminated Christian holidays in schools and promoted paganism. does this sound familiar?
• Private schools were abolished under Hitler. Now, which group is pro-educational choice and who wants a totally government controlled educational system.
• Hilter killed 270,000 handicapped people. Is it liberals or conservatives that believe it's justified to kill the unborn if they have a defect?
• Hitler exploited the desperate economic times Germany faced and ushered in his own brand of Socialism. We are facing huge debt, a poor economy and which party wants to further social ideas in this country?
• Hitler obsessed with globalism. Is it the GOP fighting to make the USA subject to the Kyoto treaty, allow the US to be subject to the gun laws implemented by the UN or subject our troops to UN command?
• Hitler expanded Germany's centralized health care system. Suggestions of vouchers expands the market into free enterprise. Need I point to which idea centralizes health-care?
• Nazi Germany was a totalitarian police state that constantly monitored everything that German citizens did. Which group is wants to control our lives to the point we can no longer choose a Big Gulp, have kids draw a weapon in school or have their school lunches inspected? Big brother is watching you. Wasn't it Obama that suggested after his election that people scour the Internet for negative comments and give him reports back?
• Under Nazi Germany taxes were raised to support the huge increase in social programs that were implemented.
• It was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive.
  Can you say General Motors, US banks and the so-called green energy production in the USA?
• Nazi Germany heavily regulated private businesses.
• Free market capitalism was hated.
• In Nazi Germany it was fashionable to mock Christianity and their faith.

I hope you got your copy of "Liberal Fascism" used, because it was thoroughly debunked YEARS AGO. http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2008/01/liberal-fascism-response.html

Meanwhile it was no less a prominent fascist than Benito Mussolini who said fascism is the perfect marriage of industry and government...sort of the goal of the GOPTP, isn't it? Your weak attempt at the "Big Lie" is duly noted, however. Good luck in your career at the Ministry of Propaganda.

John B, Des Moines, IA

Meanwhile it was no less a prominent fascist than Benito Mussolini who said fascism is the perfect marriage of industry and government...sort of the goal of the GOPTP, isn't it?

I think you've proven my point, that it is very easy to point out similarities between extreme governments actions (e.g fascism, socialism, Marxism) and some of the basic functions of the government, regardless of whether it's the GOP or the Dems. If you can quote Mussolini, then I'm certainly entitled to point out the similarities too.

As someone who supports the TP and GOP, I can assure you, the last thing I desire (or any of those that I know who support conservative issues) is a marriage between the government and business.

Please explain the difference between the big corporate lobbies and union lobbies, aren't their goals the same, to influence policy makers? So which one is wrong and which one is right? We have a nation that extends freedoms to everyone. It's not in the United States DNA to pick and choose.

Ultimately, they problem is who is being bought and the price we pay, as consumers, business owners and private citizens for our representatives selling their vote to the highest bidder... should it be called fascism? No, but it's easy to point out the influential similarities.

Out of curiosity, please point out what my "big lie" was? Do these comparisons I've pointed out not exist?

You've just admitted it's your goal to make extreme and potentially misleading comparisons.

Thanks for making my point and again, good luck at the Ministry of Propaganda.

C'mon! With a choice of the sociopath Romney and the Ayn Rand acolyte, Paul Ryan, the GOP has a wonderful choice.

Romney starts life as a privileged high school thug mugging a kid that offended him, moved on to playing state cop with daddy's help, pulling over frightened people, then the dog incident, and he finishes with a job history killing careers and jobs.

He needs to run away from everything he has "accomplished" 'cause he spent more effort hiding income than actually accomplishing anything. He wants to represent the 1% and ensure they own all the assets in an America that operates like the game Monopoly.

Ryan, on the other hand, worships at the feet of the anti-socialist atheist and egocentric hypocrite Ayn Rand.

You want to know how America ends? Vote for these madmen. PEOPLE RUN AWAY FROM TAXES SO THEY CAN HAND OVER EVERY PENNY THEY MAKE TO GREEDY, UNREGULATED, BILLIONAIRE CAPITALISTS. LUNACY.

If you knew anything about Ayn Rand, or had any reading comprehension skills and read anything she ever wrote, you would quickly realize that Paul Ryan Represents the absolute opposite of objectivism. Ayn Rand was an atheist and was pro-choice. Her philosophy centered on logic and value, two things which most politicians like Paul Ryan do not understand or care about. You mention in your comment that Rand was an atheist, which is very true, but Paul Ryan is certainly not atheist and his anti-abortion stance is based on his belief in god/church/bible. Could you logically conclude that a "Rand Acolyte" would disagree with his ideal on such a fundamental level?

Romney and Ryan.......what's 2 times 0 ?

Exactly......Obama/Biden 2012.

Chris and Bill, that pretty much sums it up. The contrast between the candidates is stark: at least as many reasons to vote against Romney/Ryan as there are to vote for Obama/Biden.

Noob misses the point entirely. Of course there is a discrepancy between Ryan's stated beliefs and the philosophies that attract his attention. Like every other conservative, they want to pick and choose pieces from the tragically misguided belief systems they promote. They can't advertise that they have fundamentally fascist leanings - - - altruism is for fools, Christians are to be mocked, government that supports the people should be broken so it can't work, create a large and powerful military - - - 'cause who would vote for them. They want you to focus only on the smaller government, the "rugged individual", wealth accumulated by all ---- all myths that have been soundly rejected by every other democracy. Rugged individuals are self-serving liars. Wealth flows upward in our rigged system. The last thing conservatives will allow is for important decisions to be made by you, alone, without their influence.

We live in a SOCIETY. Societies succeed or fail based on fairness, Jewish-Christian ethics (if not the actual religions), a rational (if natural) distribution of wealth in a system not rigged by an elite few.

What is there about the conservative plans that are in ANY way fair to anyone but the wealthy few? Does Ryan have a problem reconciling his beliefs with his votes? Sure enough. As does EVERY Republican/TEA bigot.

Romney/Ryan = 2 FRESH loaves of bread with new ideas

Obama/Biden = 1 loaf that is stale ideas w/green mold and a half a loaf that is half baked.

Joe Biden doesn't know what state he is in and Joe Biden doesn't know what century he is in. Biden is a "GAFFE MACHINE" and his chains remark makes him more qualified for Saturday Night Live than being one heartbeat away from being President.

jim-1455434

Romney/Ryan = 2 FRESH loaves of bread with new ideas

Obama/Biden = 1 loaf that is stale ideas w/green mold and a half a loaf that is half baked.

Joe Biden doesn't know what state he is in and Joe Biden doesn't know what century he is in. Biden is a "GAFFE MACHINE" and his chains remark makes him more qualified for Saturday Night Live than being one heartbeat away from being President.

I suppose in a limited world, with limited information that might be a clever comment. Being that most NeoRepublicans live in a limited world I'm sure you got quite a chuckle out of your own comments. The problem with your comments is that you cannot defend your own party's views. You cannot attack the message so you resort to the NeoRepublican tactic of attacking the messenger. How about you justify Akin's comments. Since you are a member of a party that has rejected science in favor of mythology, why don't you explain how a woman's body shuts down it's reproductive functions when rape occurs. If that were the case, logic would dictate that there are no unwanted pregnancies. Is that what your American Taliban teaches?

Lyin Ryan praised Ayn Rand for years!! He is on tape singing her praises!!! Just recently, he made her writings required reading to all of his staff.

He is also on tape praising the "Stimulus and how that would stimulate the economy"

Lyin Ryan is also on tape asking for the recent stimulus for his district but in Congress he trashes it.

Paul Ryan is a two-faced Jannus God!!! He and The Etch-a-Sketch Romney will lose in November!!!!

The only positive thing about bringing Paul "Lyin" Ryan to the National scene is that it exposes him for who he truly is, a Lyin Rat Fink!!!!!

Lyin Ryan is another "Tricky Dicky Nixon" in another form!

Hey Willard, We are still waiting on your taxes!!!!!

Obama/Biden 2012!!!!!

One thing that will never cease to amaze the thoughtful is how much delusion ordinary people live with every day. The only things besides empty platitudes and meaningless catch-phrases you hear from the GOP are:

1) Their latest scams to "privatize" a needed public service and loot the money with the help of the "corporate investors" (a.k.a. crooks and thieves).

2) A new way to intrude on people's privacy and freedoms using bizarre, illogical religious based "beliefs".

If they're not outright criminals like Romney and Ryan, they're fruitcakes like Bachmann or this clown, Akin. And many in the struggling working classes actually vote for these characters?

WOW!

RYAN AND ROMNEY MAKE WAR ON WOMEN.

HEY GUYS WHY LET THEM MAKE WAR ON YOUR MOMS, WIVES, LOVERS, SISTERS, AND DAUGHTERS? They need these health care programs and repubs plan privatizing healthcare 100% for greedy profit. Repubs don't care about women, they just need them to be another bank to draw profits from.

from womenarewatching.org

RYAN voted to end funding for Planned Parenthood, which could jeopardize access to cancer screenings, birth control, and other preventive care that nearly three million Americans rely on each year.

jim-1455434

Romney/Ryan = 2 FRESH loaves of bread with new ideas

Obama/Biden = 1 loaf that is stale ideas w/green mold and a half a loaf that is half baked.

Romney/Ryan=2 stale loaves of bread with stale ideas.

Obama/Biden=2 old but credible loaves with reliable ideas based on FACTS, not MYTH.

Joe Biden doesn't know what state he is in and Joe Biden doesn't know what century he is in. Biden is a "GAFFE MACHINE" and his chains remark makes him more qualified for Saturday Night Live than being one heartbeat away from being President.

Joe Biden is a great guy; sure he makes mistakes (and the last one hurt like hell), but he's a helluva lot better than Mr. Mitt "I'm unemployed" Romney.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Chris, Dorr, MI....."If you want to save and protect social security, medicare and a woman's right to chose, vote for President Obama.....if you don't, vote for robmehood and sheriff knothead."

Apparently you have not read Mr. Obama's agenda IF he is re-elected.

Mr. Obama's agenda is to dismantle EVERYTHING in America and to make HIS government, executed by Executive Orders and Cabinet regulation changes, the sole Judge and Jury on every faucet of your life.

Romney-Ryan 2012 to take back America from the radicals.

Ido . . . quick . . . get to the emergency room.

You've been infected with talk radio disease (Limbaugh? Coulter Beck?). Or else, you may have the very dangerous FOX News poisoning. That steady dose of lies, propaganda and phony news has damaged your brain rather badly. So sorry.

A healthy dose of . . . well . . . any credible news station (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN) or maybe watching the history channel or the science channel might help. Good luck with your affliction.

Great my mom wont be affected with Romneys plan except for Opening back up the Donut Hole for Higher fees onto CURRENT Seniors,,,, but what about me and 10s of Millions of other Americans who are in there late 40s and early 50s, We have paid weekly for 30 plus years into the Social Security INSURANCE program, We have timed our last Mortgage Payment to coincide with retirement, We put enough away to enjoy our GOLDEN years.. Ryans plan will force us to sell our House and Liquidate our assets just to pay the extra 8-10 thousand dollars just to cover the extra Charges that the Romney/Ryans VOUCHER does not cover, We will be forced to work until we die. Romney / Ryan want to steal the GOLD from our GOLDEN Years.

Best comment of the day...thanks for putting it so well, TPLIQ.

92 years and 3 days ago the 19th Amendment became law. It is once again time for women to use this freedom and the power that comes with it.

NDD, well said.

What a condescending and ignorant comment Akin made but it expresses exactly how the GOP feels about women, keep them barefoot and pregnant while they tend to the needs of their men.

Akin claims he misspoke...........yet his outrageous comment was the first thing that came out of his mouth........ which means it's the first thing that came to his mind........which means this is really what he believes. WOW. What type of woman votes for this type of candidate?

What type of woman votes for this type of candidate?

Women who lack common sense, and self respect.

NDD--well said, sister!!! The Greedy One Percenters have shown once again their low opinion of women. They want us to be subservient and silent. Not going to happen! We've come too far to go backwards.

Akin is a first class, gold medal winning, sexist-piggish idiot. Any one who allows him to stay in the race, or who votes for this troglodyte, is as well.

Women vote, you clods, and we won't be voting for you!

What type of woman votes for this type of candidate?

The 39% of braindead registered female voters that the WSJ polled!

Thanks, all. Those of us who remember the 1960's and the march toward employment equality will not EVER vote for Republicans.

I remember my mom relating this story with SUCH sadness throughout her lifetime.

"I had a job I loved, and when I was pregnant with my first child, they made me quit."

You women want to go back to that? THAT is what the Republicans bring you.

NewDay--my sense is that this guy Akins believes that if a total stranger forces a woman into sex, that is a rape but if the woman knows the man---like a date rape situation or an attack within a marriage---isn't a true rape. Shows you where he is coming from and you have to conclude that any Republican who doesn't condemn these words agrees.

"But a source with ties to Akin’s political operation tells First Read that the GOP congressman most likely won’t quit the contest, saying Akin believes this race is “providential” and even if Akin was ready to get out, his wife would never let him quit. The person with knowledge of Akin’s political operation adds: “She makes him seem like the reasonable one."

Apparently Palin & Bachmann aren't the only crazy tea-party females around.

Sadly, I'm guessing that there are at least a few in Missouri that will still vote for this pig.

But probably not enough to get his stupid a$$ elected.

Hartvig Lein - Oh you just have to read the posts on this site to realize that crazy tea-party females exist - aka no joe, JAS, Concern. It's really frightening but true!

Obama/Biden 2012

Republicans........taking off women's shoes, knocking them up, and placing them in the kitchen.

Once again.

Akins wont quit, if he is considering, he has to make the decision by tomorrow according to Missouri law. Otherwise they can try to remove him 6 weeks before the election, but he will be responsible for the cost of reprinting the ballots. These type of ignorant thinking is rampant in the Teaparty and to some extent in the Republican party as a whole. Women are considered less than 2nd class citizens, sort of goods and chattel, and unfortunately there are many women who agree to be so considered and vote for such people as Todd Akin. He didn't live to be 65 and just woke up thinking like this. And can you believe his wife is his campaign manager? That says a lot.

Been searching caves for ten+ years, looking for Taliban. Who would have thought they would take the rags off their heads and join the GOP?

No John, they didn't simply join the GOP, they took control of the GOP.

Instances of rape and incest are separate from the following comment:

How can any self-respecting woman vote for a candidate that allows women to use murder as birth control?

NewDay--my sense is that this guy Akins believes that if a total stranger forces a woman into sex, that is a rape but if the woman knows the man---like a date rape situation or an attack within a marriage---isn't a true rape. Shows you where he is coming from and you have to conclude that any Republican who doesn't condemn these words agrees.

Oh I disagree. I'll tell you what I took away from it. If a woman is raped and becomes pregnant, she actually wanted it and is probably a slut for liking it enough to get pregnant. If she was raped and did not become pregnant then it was actually rape. It's a bit like testing for whether somebody is a witch by drowning them.

Women don't use murder as birth control, not since the 60's when they invented Birth Control Pills or morning after pills or other forms of birth control. Of course the GOP wants to take that off the table too, OK guys, just saw where they have invented Birth Control Pills for men! So now, men, when you want to make sure your lady doesn't get pregnant, you will have some responsibility too.

What gets me the most about Akin's supposed apology isn't so much that he says he misspoke. Instead of stating that he was in error regarding medically provable facts, he said that he 'misspoke' and that he has deep empathy for those that are raped and abused. Does that mean he feels now he was wrong, because he didn't say he was wrong, just that he didn't say what he had intended to say? That also leads to the question of exactly what did he intend to say?

And for anyone looking for the full text of his 'retraction statement', I found it here:

Don't conservatives (and religious fanatics, for that matter) realize that the best way to end abortion is to legalize birth control??? I mean, it's so simple. Women don't need abortion if they have birth control. Now, we can go into the population argument and have a fair discussion about it, but if are truly anti-abortion, you should advocate the use of birth control. With birth control, there won't be as many abortions in the U.S. To those that say it is murder, it technically isn't. It is merely a form of "insurance" so that you don't get an unwanted pregnancy and have to have an abortion. Murder is killing someone that is living; scientifically, when the zygote is formed, then it is a separate human being. Before the sperm and egg unite, they are body parts of the two mates; i.e., the only murder happening by using birth control is the death of the egg and the sperm, which happens all the time.

GrayLady said:

Instances of rape and incest are separate from the following comment:

How can any self-respecting woman vote for a candidate that allows women to use murder as birth control?

When carrying a child to term presents a distinct threat to the mother's health.

When the child will be born with an incurable disease and live a couple years on life support in agony and die before their third birthday, I'm all for the mother's right to decide she does not want her child to live like that.

When low income parents already have a child born with an incurable disease/birth defect that reduces the quality of life considerably and is expensive to care for, and they take precautions but the condom tears/whatever, and they find out the second child will be born with the same defect, the mother has a right to decide she cannot support a second similarly handicapped child and the right to decide she does not want welfare to have to pay for care for this handicapped child either.

I don't know if you saw this story on the news yesterday. A 16 year old girl in the Dominican Republic was diagnosed with leukemia--and found out she was 9 weeks pregnant at the same time. Because they have a very strict ban on abortion there--they have defined life as the moment of conception--doctors refused to start chemotherapy for her leukemia because the radiation would kill the fetus, thereby causing an abortion. Late last week she went into premature labor and miscarried--then went into cardiac arrest from complications from the untreated leukemia and died.

What would you have done?

Romney is a liar, a tax cheat, and a thief.

I will consider all evidence to the contrary.

GrayLady25: "Instances of rape and incest are separate from the following comment: How can any self-respecting woman vote for a candidate that allows women to use murder as birth control?"

Murder is murder - from the fetus's point of view, it doesn't see the difference in the circumstances of its conception. If you believe abortion is murder (resulting in the premeditated death of a fetus), then it's absolute regardless of the cause (voluntary sex or not). So how do you reconcile that? If you are raped & got pregnant, would you abort/murder your unborn baby? Yes? If not, why not? Cuz it's an "innocent victim"?

BTW for the record, I am pro-choice. A woman's decision is nobody's business but her own. Leave religion OUT of politics.

NoJo

All your handwringing, hypocrisy,, and hysteria will not get Obama re -elected.

It is more likely that all the hand-wringing hypocrisy that swamps FR from those like you will be the reason that Romney will not be elected. Ryan as a fiscal conservative compared to his actual voting record is a prime example of hypocrisy.

NJNB -- You talking about integrity? That's downright hilarious. There is no limits to the depths you will go to these days. It's not just dishonest is disgusting.

blackcatwhitecat - you actually READ no joe? Most of us just skip over her rants and just outright lies. She is so in bed with the GOP that she lost her mind a LONG time ago!

But, because you responded to her, I went back and read part of her post - it's all I could stand. So she blames President Obama for increasing the number receiving food stamps instead of the dismal economy - brought on by the GOP. See moronic njnb - when people have no jobs they still have to eat so there is an increase in food stamp recipients. I know, logic is not the strong suit of the GOP.

I swear, between njnb, JAS and Concern - it is beginning to be obvious that you have to pass a test to have the lowest IQ possible to be a Republican!

However, happy Monday to you and the rest of my libbie friends!

Obama/Biden 2012

Jody,

If nothing is done to change Social Security and the De-moc-rats are doing nothing. The point will be reached in about 25 years where everyone benefits will be cut across the board by 24%. If we start slight changes in the system and gradually raise the retirement age then the system will stay intact. We can begin planning to implement changes for those under 55 now or wait and make the changes much more drastic.

Regarding Bush and the Wall Street collapse. Sixty Minutes did an expose on the troubles at Lehman Brothers. At the time of then collapse the Federal Reserve had people at Lehman Brothers and they could not stop it. This was under Geithner's watch as head of the New York Federal Reserve Branch.

If the people who support Willard Romney and little Eddie would only check the facts they would clearly see what these to radical right clowns are up too with Medicare and Social Security.

It'd truly amazing how closed mined these people are to the actual facts.

SeekingSanity

blackcatwhitecat - you actually READ no joe? Most of us just skip over her rants and just outright lies. She is so in bed with the GOP that she lost her mind a LONG time ago!

I do but only after Family Circus. There are times that understanding the madness from the Right are far more important in order to contain it than to cure it. I am afraid that libphobia is currently incurable.

There is no limits to the depths you will go to these days. It's not just dishonest is disgusting.

DCIA,

In case you missed it, here's Snookie's *ahem* biology lesson she laid down on us last night;

Do you understand that sperm live for 72 hours?

Do you understand that a rapist would have to be awfully lucky to impregnate someone who had just ovulated?

Do you understand that rape disrupts ovulation?

Do you understand that RAPE is stressful?

Talk about not considering science.

Are there women who are impregnated because of rape? YES.

Is it RARE? YES- again.

The number of abortions in this country has very little connection to the number of rapes in this country.

As a matter of fact- most abortions are performed as a form of birth control. And that is disgusting.

Don't bother talking to me about the life of the mother- I have a thirty year old son I was told to abort- because neither he nor I would survive the pregnancy

It was WEIRD - we never saw her again after... lmao!

We can begin planning to implement changes for those under 55 now or wait and make the changes much more drastic

As I asked above, if Ryan's ponzi-scheme is so "marvelous" WHY NOT implement it on everyone immediately?

WHY only those 55 and under?

Just think of the savings...? lol

Feisty--why am I not surprised that NoJoe would have defended Rep. Akins? Thanks for sharing that.

Abortion is such a divisive issue in our country but what strike me the most is the fact that the GOP can't even agree that preventing unwanted pregnancies should be the first concern. Instead they want to defund Planned Parenthood. Apparently they think the "aspirin" method should be enough.

This is the republican'ts brand. And Willard Romney & Paul Ryan do NOT care about women's rights. GOPitifoolish.

Feisty - okay, that is a low post even for no joe. How does a woman get to be so stupid? I mean, do they give Republican women dumb pills just to control them? I honestly can't believe a supposed female would actually write such drivel!

I honestly didn't think njnb could sink any lower - but she never ceases to amaze.

Do you think she even finished high school?

Obama/Biden 2012

I honestly didn't think njnb could sink any lower - but she never ceases to amaze.

Stick around Seeking... you ain't seen nothing yet!

By the time October rolls around, old Snookie will be totally incoherant! lol

There are simple fixes to Medicare and Social Security one of which is to increase the earned income cap; that is what President Obama proposed during the 2008 campaign. The truth is the GOP does not want to fix or "preserve" the current Government system, they want to eliminate it and hand it over to Wall Street and private insurance companies--it's that free-market capitalism thing, otherwise known as handing it over to the Gamblers.

As for Jersey Shores' Snookie Joe, she claims she has many liberals on ignore but shows up to post nonsensical rebuttals and a daily anti-Obama rant anyway--even though she allegedly never reads some of our posts.

Feisty - By the time October rolls around, old Snookie will be totally incoherant! lol

Don't think I'll have to wait for October. Pretty sure next week she'll reach that point - or later this week!

Bruce, Jacksonville. While what you post is accurate, it is only one side of the story. President Obama has already extended the life of medicare about a dozen years with the $71.6 billion yearly ($716 billion total over 10 years that Romney/Ryan claims he stole) by eliminating the "cadillac" Medicare Advantage (passed by the GOP) which paid in addition to medical costs about 20% in administrative costs and profits to private insurance companies who were doing nothing except administering the same program as the Government (6% cost to operate). President Obama campaigned in 2008, on the idea that the cap for payroll deductions on income be raised as one quick and easy fix to preserve both systems. The trouble, Bruce, is that in order for Congress and President Obama to implement fixes, the GOP must be willing to participate in the debate, both sides must be willing to compromise. So far, the GOP's version of compromise for 3 1/2 years has been "our way or the highway."

When the GOPTP decides to come to the legislative table willing to compromise, to find common ground and not just "our way or no way", then we can have a serious debate about solutions. That said, Reagan hated social security and medicare and the GOP has adopted his vision to eliminate it eventually--Paul Ryan is just the latest torch bearer of the anti-government, anti-safety net crowd.

GOPers need some real sex education, some biology, some real birds and bees stuff;

Um, that would mean they could be educated. I propose castration for the male element that cannot be educated. If they don't know how to use it, they don't deserve to have it. Something tells me if Akin were faced with a scalpel, he would quickly learn that aspirin between the knees isn't proper birth control, and he would quickly learn their is no such thing as 'legitimate' rape.

That being said, one has to wonder about Mrs. Akin and how many times she has been properly raped. How many kids do they have?

I never claimed to have you on ignore, Jody. Feisty, SS, and NDD have that honor.

While we are on about the wonders of Obama's Social Security plan- how has cutting the amount flowing in to the system helped to sustain it?

There's something "oxymoronic"about "legitimate rape". It falls into the same categories as somehow being lesser or even justified as date rape, marital rape, or the "she was just asking for it" flavors.

It's a violent act and a crime anyway someone tries to trivialize it. This man is a certified idiot by his own statements and attempts to backpedal as being misquoted or whatever, so his political career took a major turn for the worst.

This definitely puts Romney in a real pickle since he has to condemn and distance himself from it to not turn off the moderates, but still risks turning off the religious right who still can't justify abortions even for rape or incest and the nutcases who believe that rape is always the women's fault.

Maybe his medical sources were only responding to cases of rapes against males, which as it turns out do not result in pregnancies from the victims. That may be his next avenue in his attempts to backpedal himself out of this mess.

Seeking . . .

it is beginning to be obvious that you have to pass a test to have the lowest IQ possible to be a Republican!

Bill Maher this weekend on "tests" I didn't care about the source ... just watch the clip . . .

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/08/17/bill-maher-tea-baggers-must-take-literacy-test-if-voter-ids-are-requi

Feisty -- I didn't miss it. My outrage over what that contemptible human otherwise known as Akin said was such I could not edit myself enough to post. After reading through the thread and the posts of the sheer ignorant idiots like NJNB I had to get off the computer. Those type of people make me want to vomit, literally. Disgusting.

May McCatskill prevail. WE NEED more woman in Congress.

VOTE these NEANDERTHAL REPUBLICANS OUT OF OFFICE!!!!

I have No Joe on ignore but Feisty's repost of her comments yesterday put it right up there for me to read.

Now, NJNBNJ has a right to her opinion on whatever the subject might be and I respect that notion of free speech and free to one's opinions. However the last line she wrote about the "life of the mother" and dismissing that notion completely as not medically or scientifically based shows a lack of comprehension on so many levels. First, No Joe had a "choice", that's the whole point of pro-choice. She made a decision based on that "choice", based on what she felt was right for her and I respect that as her decision to make. But to imply that other women's decisions--who decide not to risk their lives to give birth to a child which may or may not survive or which may have horrific disabilities and a non-existent quality of life--are not right choices is what is wrong with conservative thinking. They, like No Joe, believe their moral choice should be what every woman chooses--I disagree with that notion completely.

She survived the pregnancy physically, not sure about mentally.

Jody -- I couldn't get past the first two lines of NJNB post!!!!

I certainly respect peoples opinions and choice. To each his own. But NJNB displayed complete insensitivity to the subject of rape and disregards the impact of such a despicable crime. Sickening.

Me thinks NJNB sniffed too much glue in her lifetime, or in reality is crusty old man. Or both.

Jody, Iowa

There are simple fixes to Medicare and Social Security one of which is to increase the earned income cap; that is what President Obama proposed during the 2008 campaign. The truth is the GOP does not want to fix or "preserve" the current Government system, they want to eliminate it and hand it over to Wall Street and private insurance companies--it's that free-market capitalism thing, otherwise known as handing it over to the Gamblers.

Actually, the increasing of the income cap only works for Social Security; it won't work for Medicare because eventually you'll have to raise the Medicare tax to 100%. Personally, I say (for Medicare) end the fee-for-service payment mechanism and pay doctors via the health of the patient (aka merit pay). In addition, I would threaten (or actually enact) a Medicare sanction of all for-profit care providers and offer them an ultimatum; either reform and lower your costs, or Medicare will only do business with non-profit care providers like Kaiser Permanente. But you're right; the GOP wants to end the welfare state as you and I know it. Why??? Because they are no longer the party of Dwight Eisenhower: Eisenhower stated that ANY party that sought to destroy Social Security and the safety net would become extinct; in fact he was pretty liberal with spending money. The current GOP is composed of anti-New Deal radicals like Grover Norquist; now they want to restore the days of rugged individualism and an every-man-for-himself society that dominated us in the decades before the Progressive Era; hell, some of them want to eliminate basic things like the minimum wage and the income tax. They want to send us back to the Dark Ages. If Romney/Ryan wins, we can kiss entitlements, the safety net, and frankly everything that generations of Americans have fought and died for (like economic equality and fair working conditions and rights) goodbye.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

I have a question... if Richie Mitts were to be forced to show his tax returns for say, the past 5 yrs or so...would that be considered legitimate or illegitimate rape?

By Akin's logic, the best forms of birth control are [stressful] rape or incest, since they result in a statistically insignificant number of pregnancies. Consensual sex on the other hand, does cause unwanted pregnancies, so abstinence or rape are the GOP's preferred means of avoiding abortions (or using evil contraceptives). Hallejuiah!

Oh, besides the typical misogyny, and probable racism......there's also the fact that he's flat out unintelligent, "believes" things that are untrue, sans research, and won't ever be convinced otherwise. Again, I fail to see how this hurts the man insofar as conservative types are concerned....he's basically the poster boy for all that amounts to "conservative" in this day and age. He's further proof that evolution exists, and is an ongoing process....his brain structure just hasn't developed to the point where he can be considered to be a member of the species who "believes" it yet....

Conservatism has lost all credibility and is actually dead in America. It's only a matter of time until the people that believe in the myth of conservatism will die off.

Conservatism has lost all credibility and is actually dead in America.

I don't believe Conservatism is dead as a whole...just dead from the neck up.

What is beyond me is the fact that so many republicans behave as if a raped woman who becomes pregnant should have to endure a pregnancy and give birth out of some sense of gratitude for a child which would be a constant reminder of a horrible crime. A nine month constant reminder of a rape is not something any woman should have to endure because some right-to-lifer says so.

I do not believe anyone has a right to tell another woman what she must do based on one's own moral compass because a moral compass cannot walk in that woman's shoes to understand her feelings let alone her situation. The GOPTP spends far too much time and money fighting abortion yet are unwilling to spend any time or money on preventing unwanted pregnancies in the first place. The first step is solid sex education and not some abstract notion of abstinence only and hope raging hormons don't get in the way; the second is make contraception available to those who want it and need it especially those who cannot afford it. If the GOPTP was serious about reducing the number of abortions, then they need to get serious about preventing pregnancy in the first place.

The GOP is an odd bunch. Maybe this attitude towards sex and abortion is their way of swelling their diminished ranks with any white kids that are available...including the bastard offspring of a rapist. "No condoms and no abortions. We have to increase production at all costs."

I do not believe anyone has a right to tell another woman what she must do based on one's own moral compass because a moral compass cannot walk in that woman's shoes to understand her feelings let alone her situation.

I've never understood how regulating what goes on between your legs is in the spirit of "small government."

Why Paul Ryan?

Romney needs someone who can keep the Tea Party and far right still on board as he swings left towards center to appeal to moderates in the general election. Without a respectable conservative to assure the base that Romney is just lying now so he can get elected, the base would consider a third party run.

In order to vote for Romney you have to believe that he is lying about whatever whenever he talks to groups with other political beliefs than your own. I find it puzzling that his dishonesty is actually one of his biggest assets to his supporters.

I find it puzzling that his dishonesty is actually one of his biggest assets to his supporters.

It worked for Mormonism...

Romney is a true Mormon: hold on to your convictions, until it becomes more pragmatic and acceptable to change them. (Polygamy is a holy commandment, until Utah needs to join the Union; blacks are the evil descendants of Cain, until you need them in your church; all planets in the solar system are inhabited by intelligent life, until NASA proves otherwise... but they still think the Garden of Eden was in Missouri, and magic underwear will protect them from Satanic forces.)

Worse...

Could you imagine that in Todd Akin's world a rape trial could basically end this way...

Victim: "I was raped!"

Defense Attorney: "Your honor, I submit that the alleged victim in this case became pregnant. Therefore, it must not have been a legitimate rape."

Judge: "I concur. Because you became pregnant, it must not really have been a rape. Case dismissed."

DA NOID - LEGITIMATE rape - don't forget. I'm not exactly sure what a "legitimate" rape is and my guess is - since it is doubtful Akin will be raped - he doesn't have a clue either. He clearly doesn't have a clue about much.

I guess I'll add Missouri to the list of states I NEVER want to live in - Arizona, Florida, Texas and now Missouri! The GOP is truly wrecking some beautiful places!

Obama/Biden 2012

"Legitimate Rape" ? It sounds more like what Obama is doing to this country since his election.

That is just sick, to compare the horrible violence done to women on a daily basis around the world to what President Obama has or hasn't done (depending on your point of view) to this country.

people like you are why the GOP is accused of having a war against woman. I hope no woman in your life is ever raped because that would be a horrible way for you to learn that you are wrong. Dislike to the presidents policies that is your right but to compare it to rape shows the world how small minded you are.

jim-1455434... Were you alive during the last administration's folly or just fast asleep? Perhaps it's short term memory loss? Or maybe just "selective memory?" Pretty weak argument.

President Obama got done what he could while trying to deal with the party of "NO!"

When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth they will either cease being mistaken or cease being honest.

jim-1455434 was not conscious during the Bush years so it wasn't rape.....

From downtownnnn!

Congressman Ryan supports "Personhood" bills that would give rights to a fertilized egg

I wonder how Willard's son feels about that, since he & his wife utilized in-vitro fertilization...

Gee following that line of reasoning I guess I really didn't have a Bacon, Egg and Cheese this morning. It must have been a Bacon, Chicken and Cheese sandwich.

How stupid can Ryan and his buddies get?

Congressman Ryan supports "Personhood" bills that would give rights to a fertilized egg

Will said new person have the right to self-abort? To commit suicide so to speak? Rights not granted to others?

Pretty unbelievably stupid. If the Greedy One Percenters weren't stupid, would they have put that moron Akin up for senate in Missouri? Or that idiot in Indiana? Or the one in Texas? Puh-leez.

Romney's a liar and Ryan's a phony. Ryan didn't get 'fiscal responsibility' until the Obama administration. He voted for Bush's unnecessary wars and for the tax cuts. He has submitted only two bills in fourteen years--one for renaming a post office and the other for regulating hunting arrows. Wow!! What amazing boldness!

Romney has lied consistently--most recently about Medicare. His act of saying he would preserve Medicare is an Oscar-winning performance. And in front of senior citizens..with a straight face, yet. he knows he's lying, and does it anyway. Hypocrite!

Once again, as with Rush Limbaugh, Ted Nugent, and Donald Trump, Romney has given a wishy-washy reponse. Makes me tend to believe he agrees with them, but is too chicken to say so. If he is so afraid of these loons, what will he do against the Iranians, Al-Quaeda, or any other group that does not wish this country well?

I wonder how Willard's son feels about that, since he & his wife utilized in-vitro fertilization...

I believe that is called rape in-vitro fertilization. After all, how can we ever know if the egg and and sperm consented?

Its going to be a wonderful day Nov 7 when I wake up turn on the news and I hear that we have a new POTUS.

Romney -Ryan 2012

mike ritter deerhunter... Watch what you wish for.

"Corporations are people." The U.S. Supreme Court

"Corporations ar people, my friend." Willard "Mitt" Romney

"Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." Benito Mussolini

"An oligarchy of private capital… cannot be effectively checked even by a democratically organized political society (because) under existing conditions, private capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main source of information." Albert Einstein

In other words... people who don't read the news are uninformed and those that do read it are misinformed.

Ol-i-gar-chy: noun

1. a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.

2. a state or organization so ruled.

3. the persons or class so ruling.

Damn good point. I suspect his stock rose in a variety of places . . . baptist churches, trailer parks, KKK meetings . . . you know- the usual teanut hangouts.

Last night!