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The Obama campaign said that Paul Ryan “flip flopped” on the issue of Medicare now that the Romney campaign is accusing President Obama of reducing Medicare spending in the same way Ryan had proposed in his budget.
On a conference call with reporters, Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD), Ryan’s Democratic counterpart atop the House Budget Committee, noted that the president’s health care plan cut more than $700 billion mostly out of the Medicare Advantage program, which affected insurance companies and hospitals rather than beneficiaries.
But Ryan’s budget plan also calls for the same spending reductions, even though Romney is now accusing Obama of “raiding” Medicare by instituting the cuts and has said he would restore the spending.
“It’s kind of sad to see Congressman Ryan be forced to flip flop on this issue by Gov. Romney,” Van Hollen said on the call.
He claimed that while Medicare trustees have estimated the spending reductions would extend the life of the entitlement program for eight years, Romney and Ryan would essentially be negating that extension should they implement their plan.
“They will hasten the insolvency of the Medicare program by 8 years, that’s according to the Medicare trustees. So what they’re announcing is that by the end of their term if they were to be elected, Medicare would have begun to go bankrupt by the end of their term,” Van Hollen said.
Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt suggested they would continue to hit Ryan on the apparent contradiction between his budget proposal and Romney’s plan, a strategy that allows them to hit their opponent on policy while also suggesting Ryan is a flip flopper, a claim they’ve long been making about Romney.
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It's amazing what crazy sh!t you can write and people will vote it up and love my SH!T. Like "We should just take all the money from the white people." Liberals will go right along with it . I like to expose just how far some of them will go. You could say, " Screw Israel. Let them die." and get 50 votes. Liberals are cracked. I like pointing that out in my own way. But I use many styles. I just talk like a lib with a broken PC button.
paul ryan wentto school on a free ride because his father passed away. i guess after that he deciced that no one else should nave the same chance like he did.
we all know part d was suppose to take care of what part b did not.but,the insurance industry would rather take your money and run.cheat you on your benefits and put money in their pocket.
ever ask yourself how much money ryan got from the insurance industry?
you guys who are so in love with willard/ryan need to really look at their policies.they say they are always trying to lower your taxes but only if they lower taxes for the top 1%.
i make less than ryan and pay more than mitt. go figure.and he wants to raise my tax rate to lower mitt's?
they ought to quit worrying about starting wars in iraq and syria and spend the money here.
rebuild america first.then worry about somebody else.
Ryan smiles as he says we need to "Privatize Social Security," make Medicare a "Voucher Program," and eliminate the Capital Gains tax. He lives off capital gains he inherited from his rich family.
Yup. He is EVIL.
I thought you were pro-Romney, I'm sorry Hillary.
I was not wrong about you, I retract my apology, Hillary.
I am sure you were just as enraged with Jon Kerry and crazy wife Theresa. They were Rich also.. Or are you just pissed at People "Rommney Rich"" Not 'Heinz Ketchup Rich"..... Because I am sure you know the difference ...right?
Well Ryan is now flip flopping with Willard. They should have enter the Olympics.
Flip Flopping??? C'mon when Obama does it ...the Liberal media refers to as Evolving.......Ohh...thats only for the Liberal media to descrbe Democrats...
I will love to see how this plays out in congressional races.
I can see a democrat challenger running against a Republican incumbent who voted for the Ryan plan, saying the Republican voted for a plan so radical, even Romney is embarrassed by it. Lol.
Yea ...keep dreaming... This about a terrible Economy.... Did you hear that 44 states jobless rate rose...Yea... the Dems have the races all going their way. People want less jobs.
When a Democrat Flip Flops....his opinion is evolving !!!!
When somebody else changes his or her mind it is "Flip Flop"!
Time to get rid of Obama and Joe "Al Jolsen" Biden from office.
Joe it is not a considered a Gaffe when you read it from a Teleprompter.
That was just so funny how you made fun of the Black community and made them laugh with you because they trusted you. Your a joke and a disgrace to this country. Then Obama says it is ok to treat the community this way, he backs Joe up... "There Will be no Apologies" he said.
Its not so much the flip-flop that get attention ~ its the bald-faced lying denial that the flip-flopper ever held a different opinion even though evidence to the contrary is overwhelming.
Biden has nothing to apologize for. If his remarks were "racist' and "insulting to the Black community," why is it that all we are hear from in protest are a bunch of White people with differing politics? This is just another example which brands neo-conservatives and Tea-Pees ~ truth is to be feared and a messenger of truth must be destroyed.
Jim it was Racist and insulting....Even Govenor Wilder of Virginia(The first Black Govenor and Democrat).. Found it to be insulting. I am glad you thought I was a conservative...but see i am not. I am a Pissed off Democrat from Western Pa. Watching my Power Plants close due to his BULL S##T Green Energy Plans. The new air restrictions become to costly for the Power Plant to meet ...so they shut it down... If you are not a Public Worker, Car maker or for Green Energy... Our President does not see fit to buy our votes as a union. This President is Garbage ... His campaign is Garbage(lies and deceipt). Why do I care about Rommneys tax Return...none of us gave Rats ass about Kerry and his Wacked out wife Theresa Heinz and their money. I am concerned about getting back to work. I am concerned about having to pay higher taxes so Public Sector unions can get benefits and a job. Clinton is one of the greatest Presidents of our Life time... he turned the Economy around... He lead Congress... he didnt divide the American people. Even Reagan was producing close to a Million jobs at the stage of his Presidency that Obama is at.
More mud throwing from the Democrats who haven't indicated what they will do to save Medicare or the economy in general! Most likely, they don't have any ideas.. obama has put us deeper in debt by $6 trillion with the same old results! More unemployment, fewer Americans working as a percentage to total population than ever before, 41 months of over 8% unemployment, loans to companies in the energy sector that went bankrupt, loans to the auto industry that may never be paid back, and more cronyism than any administration in history.
Dear president Obama. Its the Romney plan not the Ryan plan stupid.
"Or... they really... really... are a bunch of amateurs running Willard's campaign!"
Oh, they're ok I suppose.
Mitt's the amateur.
This is my first post. I will get right to the point. I cannot imagine the voting public, most of whom are not in the top 1 percent, electing a couple of phonies like Mittens and Ayn Ryan. Whenever Mutt talks about how much taxes he has paid he never says INCOME TAXES, it is just TAXES!! And if he does not release more tax returns he will continue to get beat 'bout the head & shoulders daily till election day. He loses either way, and maybe it is best he does not release anything. Honestly, I have never seen a more hollow excuse for a politician than this man. Strip him of his ill-gotten Vulture Capitalist money and what do you really have? Not much! He will lose. Period.
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Disingenuous headline.
Romney and the republicans change their minds on an issue - THAT'S A FLIP FLOPPING.
Obama and the democrats change their minds and approach on an issue - THAT'S EVOLUTION.
Laughable.
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Nothing
At least on the gay marriage the President explained his thought process. R&R try to act like they never had a different position in the first place.
That's the difference. If R&R want to explain their thought processes we're listening...
Listening to their thoughts is like listening to a broken record. they have had no new thoughts in decades.
Hussein Zero's campaign says our candidate is such a Complete Failure that we can do nothing but attack GOP candidates. We can't talk about our "record" because it would Doom us. We can't get rid of The Buffoon called Biden, because it would look like we are admitting we were Idiots for choosing him. We can't do anything positive, because we haven't for Four Long years. All we can do to help the country is to Start Packing so someone Qualified and Competent can take office.
Sooooooo ~ who do you have in mind? This past week confirms that Romney isn't capable. Hell, he can't even run his own campaign without turning it into a continual comedy of errors and Ryan hasn't helped ~ in fact, he has become a true contributor to the modern-day version of "Laugh In."
Ryan voted against the stimulus. Then went around begging for stimulus money. Then denied he ever begged for any stimulus money.
Ayn Rand would be proud.
Didnt the stimulus money end up with exporting jobs over seas ....Thanks Obama ....JUST WHERE I WANTED MY TAX DOLLARS TO GO.
The number of flipflops is breathtaking thus far. I'll bet Mitt's team doesn't know week to week what the "final opinion" is going to be.
Reminds me of a pinball wizard.
Its not forced , its natural now! lololololo
Nah, its the Ryan Plan. Romney didn't have one until he selected the Cheese-head which was/is tantamount to an "agenda transplant." Here's something worth noting ~ there are 288 Republican members of congress and not a single one of them is on the stump for Romney-Ryan. Not even those in the Senate who are not up for election this cycle. There is a h-u-g-e message in that fact if you listen.
Keep Dreaming Jimmy....Everybody is in Line for Rommney...unlike our President who has been to 26 fund raisers and has not spoken to the pres in 8 weeks... They have jobs to do other going on campaign trips with Rommney. Ok line up the Democrats other than the great "Joe Biden " who are stumping for Obama. Who wants to put their name to that garbage other than Alec Balwin?
ali weinberg thinks she is a journalist
shouldn't we be talking about the economy and jobs or rather the lack of both?
What doesn't anyone understand about the fact that it is Romney who is running for President not Ryan. It will be Romney's plan that is put into effect so what Ryan has previously proposed is not relevant. If he didn't agree to embrace Romney's plan he would not have accepted the VP position when it was offered.
As for the $700 billion Obama cuts from Medicare to fund Obamacare, if anyone thinks hospitals and doctors, who have been complaining about the amount Medicare reimburses them are not going to reduce services to or stop serving Medicare patients altogether, that thinking is plain foolishness, There will be a decline in the healthcare services available for seniors compared to those that were available prior to the $700 billion cut.
Ryan is on the ticket specifically because of his fiscal chops. Don't run from him now. Remember, that's why you all were celebrating Sunday....a "true fiscal consversative". Now all the sudden, he doesn't matter.
not only is medicare dead to seniors and the young, but now obama has 'stolen' over 700 billion to fund obamacare. your insurance co or doctor or both will no longer want you as a patient because of the scaled down payments. robbing the old to pay for people to lazy to work.
your going to get the canadian system of health care which is so outstanding that many canadians choose to go to the us for their treatments and pay cash. many seniors are turned down in canada for certain treatments, cause they're not 'worth it'...
All that change that obama promised, why not "change" is sad campaign from throwing hate and bs to truthful and showing what he wants to accomplish (well he hasn't done anything yet) in another 4 years?
I love how it's nothing but mud slinging bs. Our country needs to change how this crap works, WAY to much money pissed away on garbage like this. I love these guys though "hey, instead of putting out commercials that explain what we hope to do, lets just say bad things about everyone else in the election"....
When one does it constantly, the other has to follow which is annoying.
the ryan pick has dumfounded the scrobama camp. now might be a good time for one or two of those pre election scrobama manufactured crisis to pop up.let's take a guess on what the scrode will come up with next in the form of a crisis.......in the mean time team scrobama continues to bring up lame points that only confuse their ignorant voting base.
0bambam/Blindem:True Lies Forever.well, until nov.
Ill never understand this.
The Godless Liberals are more interested in feeding the hungry and healing the sick than the Christian Right.
They never seem to mention God when talking about this issue. Or feeding the hungry.
Weird huh? Its almost like there is some kind of agenda or something.
But then again, I guess Jesus "Gave at the office" as well.
Get rid of foreign aid, leave our seniors alone.
I thought Bush & Palin were bad but boy they have nothing on Romney/Ryan. These two aren't even on the same page. Everyone knows their attempts to paint Obama as killing Medicare is ludicrous at best, what he did do was extend the life of it by cutting he spending to providers not beneficiaries. Their plan will cut benefits for the beneficiaries and they know it and so doesn't everyone else. Yet the lies keep coming, its almost sad.
Flip flop?
Senator Obama in 2006. "Raising the debt ceiling a sign of leadership failure"
Candidate Obama in 2008 "Nation debt increase is unpatriotic"
President Obama- Raises debt ceiling and national debt skyrockets.
Yup it takes a lot of money to fix a country that was abused for 8 years.
Bummer, sure it was tough decision.
America has been abused for more than 30 years. The last Presidents to pay down on the national debt were Clinton and Carter. If Reagan, Bush, and bush/cheney had balanced their budgets we would now have almost no national debt.
Republicons do not know how to handle the economy and their history proves it.
94% of the national debt belongs to three people.
Reagan
Bush
bush/cheney