This is crazy talk. We will not win a war with China. Another excuse to ramp up military spending at the expense of the welfare of the citizens of this country! Keep banging those war drums TPGOP. We will see how far that gets you in the election.....

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

Well, that is going to be awkward - Ryan attacking the Chinese, the nation that has bought and paid for the Romney campaign via Chinese Whore Adelson. You really shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you - it is most impolite.

And then Willard spoke up and said, "hey Paulie leave 'em alone, that's where I outsource American jobs to!"

Ryan has tough words for China? He must have already forgotten who his running mate is.

Cheezer and Benny boy, Yeah, you guys really hit her hard!

I'll bet she's cryin a river of tears.........................from laughing at you!

BAM! I know I am! :)

Yet there's one hitch to Ryan's tough words on China, especially as it relates to currency manipulation: The congressman, in 2010, voted against legislation to crack down on China's currency manipulation.

HYPOCRITE!

Feisty

Not to mention but what would be running down his leg afterwards!

So now, Ryan wants to do away with employer based health insurance, and make the person responsible for the cost.

What's next?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/15/us-usa-campaign-ryan-healthtax-idUSBRE87E12320120815

"Most working Americans today get their health insurance through their employers and pay no taxes on the benefits. But self-employed people have to get healthcare on the open market, a situation that Romney has framed as unfair."

So instead we would get "capped payments".......welcome to another voucher program.

Wow - Ryan is the PERFECT fit for Romney - flips almost as much as he does. Let's see - they're NOT President and VP yet they try to instigate problems with another country. Bright these guys are not!

Cannot wait for 11/7/2012 so we can send them home!

Obama/Biden 2012

Watching Romney and Ryan trying to stay on message is like watching Gilligan and the Skipper coordinate a rescue from a deserted island. Great afternoon comedic TV, but hardly qualities needed to run a country. Why don't Romney and Ryan just pull out the whack-a-mole mallets in a nationally televised event and provide the eager GOP/TP a good dose of reality TV. It is all they have to offer.

Watching Romney and Ryan trying to stay on message is like watching Gilligan and the Skipper coordinate a rescue from a deserted island

Or Lucy & Ethel working the chocolate conveyor belt... lol

There's so much bull@!$%# moving, they can't keep up!

The kind of thoughtless nonsense Romney is spewing is designed to appeal to the right wing lunatic fringe in this country, but China listens carefully to these speeches. In the highly unlikely event that he is elected, Willard's empty threats and chickenhawk rhetoric will drive a wedge in the already fragile relations the US shares with the PRC. If creating a new cold war is Mitt's intention, he will succeed. Idiot.

If you want to get tough with China stop using Apple products and shopping at Wal-Mart. If you are concerned with currency manipulation then start with the currency in your own pocket. Until the American consumer decides to leave the foreign products rotting on the shelf American companies will continue to outsource American jobs and transfer American wealth to China, if Americans would demand American made products then the free market will fill that need. I don't mean lip service about American products, I mean hundreds of millions of Americans just not buying ant foreign product for just one week, just one week and you would get some serious attention. It is pretty stupid to spend all your money in China and then say we are broke can we borrow some money from you and then turn around and spend all that money in China. China is now the company store in that old song "16 tons" Get tough with China, Be American buy American, that's all you have to do is say no thanks, I would like an American made brand and if they don't have one, then do without, and only then will the free market respond and American workers will have jobs again. Good ole American companies are selling you down the river, but the sad thing is they can only do that because you voluntarily buy your own ticket. You can defeat all the unfair trade policies in the world right at the cash register, JUST DON"T BUY IT. Be American, Buy American

If they ever got the chance, Willard and Eddie Munster would find out that China is a sovereign nation that does not take orders from anybody, especially a couple of goofy looking right wing nutjobs.

Scott Paul, the executive director of the Alliance for American Manufacturing, said it was the "height of hypocrisy" for Ryan to attack Obama on this issue.

I thought Height of Hypocrisy was one of the job requirements for being on the Republican ticket. Now this is a bad thing??

Don't worry, we won't go to war with China, we can't, we would have to go barefoot and naked, because they make all our clothes and shoes.

ryan/romney 2012 - New (old?) Campaign Slogan

"Hey, WE were for it, BEFORE we were against it."

Ryan on foreign policy?

He can see Canada from his backyard? That's what GOP calls foreign policy experience.

Romney on foreign policy?

He can see The Swiss Alps from his safe deposit box? And he knows ALL the best restaurants in the Cayman Islands.

That's what GOP calls foreign policy experience.

We already saw what kind of foreign policy maker this Wizard is - his first stop, he insults Great Britain, and his second stop he says he would be cool with Israel starting a way with Iran. At least he didn't screw up in Poland. I think his advisors went out and got some duct tape for him.

Mum is the word - Ryan should just shut up on foreign policy issues,

'Hey Paul Ryan, you just make an ass out of you but not me.'

Watching Mitt the Ugly American talk about foreign policy is enough already.

And China will cower before big tough Mitt? I doubt it.

When the "Currency Reform for Fair Trade Act" came to a floor vote back in 2010, Congressman Ryan was among a very small number of Republicans to vote against it.

He voted AGAINST a bill to penalize China for currency manipulation. Now he's in Ohio, complaining about how they manipulate currency. Glad to see he cared about it when he had the opportunity to vote against it.

You have to trust Pres. Obama to be tougher; after all, the Democrats have to take care their core supporters in unions that have fought outsourcing for some time now. But even on this, there is hope anyway.

I can see that in Paul Ryan's swing through the state fairs.....he must have visited alot of cattle barns to have scooped up ALL that BS he has been shoveling out.

Oh yeah. Romney is going to get tough with China. Sure

correction of #1.31

But even on this, there is no hope anyway, referring to the hopeless situation in preventing outsourcing even when the Democratic President tries to help unions and keep jobs here.

When it is all said and done the only thing that means anything to a capitalist system is the almighty dollar. It is very profitable to outsource, what does an I-pad cost, the people making them are paid 30 cents an hour. The only thing you can do is take the profit out of outsourcing, is by not buying those products. American companies can produce these products here and pay a fair wage, the only difference is a little less profit for the people at the top. They won't do this voluntarily, the American consumer has to give them two choices, either we will not buy those products at all, hence you get zero profit, or you will produce them in America and make a fair and decent profit. The only way America will ever get it's economy back is if the American people take it back. American consumers have to have the will to take this economy back, let the foreign products rot on the shelf, and then and only then will you see American companies producing American products using American workers in here in America. The American people have to give them these two options, if it is not made here we won't buy it and you make zero profit, or you produce it here and make yourself some money. No trade policy will solve our unemployment problem and the decline of the middle class, but the American consumer can, if they had the will to do so. I'll tell you what if you hate communists and think America is the greatest, then prove it, don't support Communist China by buying their products, support the people you think are are the greatest, all we have to do is put our own money where our mouth is.

Here we go again...the double standards of the Left...When Obama says one thing and then does another the left calls it evolution, but when the right does it, it's called "height of hypocrisy". I know that the Left holds the Right to a higher moral standard, which they should because someone has to fill that role, but this is ridiculous. Talk about a campaign that is reaching, if you want to go down that road the Left needs to take into account the overwhelming amount of material that the Right has to use against them!

I don't know if anyone elase is experiencing this, but now whenever Ryan says anything, all I can hear is "I'm going to kill Medicare," and whenever Romney speaks, all I can hear is "I'm not going to release more tax returns."

You don't even have to put the sound on mute -- though it would be cool if the media did that and just looped the "I'm not going to release more tax returns" everytime Mitt moves his lips. But seriously, if these two think they can get past these most basic issues and discuss something else, they are delusional.

The "Hey girl' thing has taken off for Paul Ryan, so now it's time to put Romney to music with the only lyrics "I'm not going to release more tax returns" -- Hahaha, what a great time for comedians.

All you Righties -- We can't hear you either!

So, I guess absolutely no one else on here has ever changed his/her mind on anything in their entire lifetime? Sometimes you study an issue some more and decide that your original position was not correct and adopt another position on that topic.

I mean, gee, how many times has Obama "evolved" on issues? Why don't the liberal posters here count up the number of evolutions over his political career and get back to me on that? I don't think a lot of you can count that high!

Yes peoples thinking can evolve, but Romney changes his position from week to week, he does not evolve he revolves, and the speed with with he revolves could only be properly measured with a tachometer.

Considering that Romney manages to come down on 5 sides of a 2 sided issue, why should we expect his running mate not to flip-flop all over the place.

"So, I guess absolutely no one else on here has ever changed his/her mind on anything in their entire lifetime?"

Romney changes his mind on just about everything depending on who he's talking to at the time.

Mitt takes a stand on both sides of every issue...examples:

"The Arizona immigration policy is a good model" – Mitt Romney.

"I didn't really support the Arizona immigration policy" – Mitt Romney.

“The Massachusetts healthcare plan should be a model for the nation” – Mitt Romney.

“Healthcare reform should be left to the states” – Mitt Romney.

"Let Detroit go bankrupt" -Mitt Romney.

"I'll take a lot of credit for saving the auto industry" -Mitt Romney.

“I believe Roe v Wade has gone too far.” – Mitt Romney.

“Roe v Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.”– Mitt Romney.

“I respect and will protect a woman’s right to choose.” – Mitt Romney.

“I never really called myself pro-choice.” – Mitt Romney.

“It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam.” – Mitt Romney.

“I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and represent our country there.” – Mitt Romney.

“I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.” – Mitt Romney.

“Ronald Reagan is… my hero.” – Mitt Romney.

“I think the minimum wage ought to keep pace with inflation.” – Mitt Romney.

"There’s no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs.”– Mitt Romney.

“I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.” – Mitt Romney.

“I did not see it with my own eyes.” – Mitt Romney.

“I would like to have campaign spending limits.” – Mitt Romney.

“The American people should be free to advocate for their candidates without burdensome limitations.” – Mitt Romney.

“I supported the assault weapon ban.” – Mitt Romney

"I don’t support any gun control legislation.” – Mitt Romney.

“The stimulus that was passed in early 2009 will accelerate the recovery…” –Mitt Romney.

“The stimulus passed in early 2009 has been a failure.” – Mitt Romney.

So, I guess absolutely no one else on here has ever changed his/her mind on anything in their entire lifetime?

True. But I would like to know how one evolves on a binary choice.....I mean you either want to combat currency manipulation or you dont.

As far as Obama, lets take the Gay Marriage issue. His stance was civil unions yes, and marriage no. Over time , he did evolve. But it wasnt contradictory. Is was always a position of being for legal rights same as married hetero couples, its the tradtional label of 'MArriage' that he evolved on. So its an evolving in degreee not a switch to the opposite stance .

So yes, evolving on positions is fine. Its good actually. But there is a difference in your actual voting record and what you are proposing for the future. Ryan voted against a Chinese currency manipuilation bill but is out there on the stump as if he voted for it. That is a contradiction, not evolution.

@ 2-Lane Gypsy

There are only 10 kinds of people, those that understand binary numbers, and those who don't.

Obama has:

First president to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.

First president to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.

First president to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States

First president to violate the War Powers Act.

First president to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .

First president to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.

First president to spend a trillion dollars on 'shovel-ready' jobs when there was no such thing as 'shovel-ready' jobs.

First president to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.

First president to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.

First president to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.

First president to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.

First president to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to resign.

First president to terminate America 's ability to put a man in space.

First president to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.

First president to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.

First president to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.

First president to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.

First president to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.

First president to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).

First president to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.

First president to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).

First president to fire an inspector general of Ameri-Corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.

First president to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.

First president to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.

First president to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 102 to date.

First president to hide his medical, educational and travel records.

First president to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.

First president to go on multiple "global apology" tours and concurrent "insult our friends" tours.

First president to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayer.

First president to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.

First president to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.

First president to repeat the Holy Quran & tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.

First president to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they “volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences. Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion.

First president to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50 states ( Mexico vs Arizona ).

Feisty,

Elect these two foreign policy nitwits and we'll be into WWIII by Valentines Day 2013!

It is funny that you seem to forget that Obama ran on the same issue in 2008. Don't tell anybody though and maybe we can keep the distracted long enough for them to not notice. This is why you are a personal joke Obama has ran on many of the same issue. The difference is that Obama has not moved us forward as a country maybe you are afraid that with a leader your welfare will be take and you illegal lesbian lover will finally be deported.

One has a spine of J-E-L-L-O and the other has a yellow streak 6"s wide running down his back!

I agree it is Obama and Bidden they cannot even get the country back on track when they had Congress for two years. You bitched about the money that Bush spent Obama has spent double the amount Bush spent if you go by years.

Obama said Medic/Medicare would not change if health care was passed and already they are now not paying for all kinds of medications. Also you are not allowed to see a doctor and pay out of your pocket because if you did and you were prescribed a medication it will not be filled. How is that better? How does that extend coverage? It does not it has cut it oh and my wife’s health insurance has double since Obama's health care. We were told prices would not rise as fast as they had been if this was passed another lie the cost have gone up faster. Obama has affected my insurance as well with my flexible spending account now you can only take out $2500 instead of $3000 how this helps anyone.

You say Romney uses and etch-a-sketch well what does Obama use invisible ink. Obama did cocaine when he was in high school while working at Dairy Queen at $3 a hr. so how do you afford cock while getting paid that, you sell it to use. Obama was a drug dealer. Or so I have heard I think from Harry Reid. Also you keep saying release your taxes Romney well he has but my question is why you didn’t say show us your birth certificate when Obama refused to show that for as long as he did when it is a prerequisite to be president.

The reason is in your eyes Libs know better than anyone else and we should all just do what you say. That will never happen no matter how you try to by votes with not having to work for welfare or not deporting someone that is breaking a law being in this country.

As always do as we say not as we Lib's do.

America and American business needs China to provide cheap labor. End of story.

The american people are dumb as dirt. We continue to buy cheap chinese crap which causes unemployment to skyrocket here and send all the profits to a few corporate fatcats that head these corporations. They don't move overseas because they can't compete here. They move overseas so the ceo can get even richer. It is no coincidence that as outsourcing skyrocketed so did ceo pay. The only thing that didn't happen is consumer prices coming down. That's what they promised us. They said if they move overseas we would get cheaper prices. Well I haven't seen any prices come down. I refuse to buy Levi's, or shop at wal-mart or buy apple products. I won't support companies who move production overseas. More americans need to do the same then we would finally see production come back here. I would also slap tarriffs on goods imported from China.

Watching Romney and Ryan trying to stay on message is like watching Gilligan and the Skipper coordinate a rescue from a deserted island

Or Lucy & Ethel working the chocolate conveyor belt... lol

There's so much bull@!$%# moving, they can't keep up!

LMFAO!! Oh Feisty I swear your comments crack me up! XD

When Obama changes his mind he is evolving. When a Republican changes their mind they are a flip flopper. Obama will say anything to try and convince everyone that he has actually done something.

Yes, and then there is Romney whose positions change daily.

So now, Ryan wants to do away with employer based health insurance, and make the person responsible for the cost.

What's next?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/15/us-usa-campaign-ryan-healthtax-idUSBRE87E12320120815

"Most working Americans today get their health insurance through their employers and pay no taxes on the benefits. But self-employed people have to get healthcare on the open market, a situation that Romney has framed as unfair."

So instead we would get "capped payments".......welcome to another voucher program.

Still seeking sanity, by ocassionally you mean every other campaign speech right? After all Obama does nothing but pander to the audience of the moment. Lets face it Obama will say anything to try and convince everyone that he has actually done something. Only works on liberals 100% of the time.

It feels like a Mayor Quimby quote.

"I, er, am against those things that I, er, was for and I am completely for those, er, um, things I was against."

Amen Ursula

"I'm not familiar precisely with what I said, but I'll stand by what I said, whatever it was." —Mitt Romney (May 17, 2012)

Instead of just saying, "I have already stated my position on that issue."

He is too stupid to get out of his own way. This one is pricelessly Bush-like:

"I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that's the America millions of Americans believe in. That's the America I love." –Mitt Romney (January 2012)

Now I know who is behind this ticket. America's comedy writers.

I think this demonstrates the big problem with putting Paul Ryan on the ticket.

House republicans have done nothing over the last 4 years.

Everything Paul Ryan will say will make him sound like a hypocrite.

All the foreign policy experience Ryan has is to have ONCE had breakfast at the INTERNATIONAL House of Pancakes (Ryan is a member of this House, remember?).

So, I guess absolutely no one else on here has ever changed his/her mind on anything in their entire lifetime? Sometimes you study an issue some more and decide that your original position was not correct and adopt another position on that topic.

I mean, gee, how many times has Obama "evolved" on issues? Why don't the liberal posters here count up the number of evolutions over his political career and get back to me on that? I don't think a lot of you can count that high!

Bob in KC-545426

"So, I guess absolutely no one else on here has ever changed his/her mind on anything in their entire lifetime? Sometimes you study an issue some more and decide that your original position was not correct and adopt another position on that topic."

I can understand someone changing their mind on a subject..but not every other day. In the case of Romney and now Ryan..what they both say will change according to which group they are speaking too. And we are finding out nothing from them as to what they would really do..or what they are really for..other than making big cuts to the taxes for the wealthy.

Congressman Ryan believes America must take aggressive action to confront nations like China that cheat on trade," says spokesman Brendan Buck. "He believes this can be done most effectively when the president has the freedom to take appropriate action, and that we need a president like Gov. Romney who is committed to doing just that instead one like President Obama who has shown he won’t.”

More lies from the Republicans:

May 30, 2012
The U.S. Commerce Department slapped tariffs on Chinese wind-turbine towers, the latest chapter in a clean-energy trade battle between Washington and Beijing.The preliminary ruling, made in response to a complaint filed in December by a group of U.S. turbine-tower makers, found that Chinese firms enjoyed unfair government support, including grants, preferential tax treatment and cheaper prices for raw materials. The Commerce Department announced duties of between 13% and 26% on Chinese tower makers. The department will rule this summer on a related antidumping complaint brought against Chinese and Vietnamese tower makers.

Aug 1, 2012
The United States Commerce Department on July 31 set a preliminary countervailing duties rate on steel tanks made in China. The rate was set at 2.12 percent to 13.94 percent, the US Commerce Department said. The US will also launch an antidumping probe on steel tanks made in China. The US Commerce Department is expected to make a final decision later this year.

Jun 4, 2012
Tariffs imposed on Chinese solar panel imports by the US Department of Commerce have come in the 30% range as expected with a 31% tariff placed on panels from China’s biggest panel makers. The tariff hike is designed to be both a punishment on the Chinese solar panel manufacturers that Washington believes have been dumping low cost panels on the US, while also aiming to prevent them and other panel markers from doing so in future and undermining the US panel manufacturing sector.

In total, the Department of Commerce identified 61 Chinese companies (including major players such as Yingli Green Energy, LDK Solar, Canadian Solar, Hanwha solar One, JA Solar Holding and Jinko Solar) as dumpers and they will all be required to pay the 31% tariff.

Washington is also wise to the old trick of name changing and shipping under different brand names and third countries and so, therefore, the new tariffs also applies to Chinese panel makers who have not previously exported to the US. Any now wishing to do so will be required to pay a 250% tariff. The changes in duties are expected to be confirmed in October.

I was considered upper middle class and still paid 16% taxes, now I am lower middle class and pay 18.5% taxes, Mr. Romney would die trying to live on my income. My husband has not had a pay increase in 4 years. Also, unemployment did not happen the day President Obama took office, our problems as a country had been kept secret for Bush's 2 terms and I am sorry to say I voted for him twice. Never, ever again will I vote Republican. Mr. Romney is proud to say he has paid 13% TAXES - shame on him for being so proud of that figure. Wouldn't we all love to have 87% of our gross pay.

Paulette, yes we would. And one way to get there is buy a dancing horse, call it a business, and write off it's cost.

I wonder - if I could get my TV to dance, could I write it off as a business expense?

Just cruised through a few more of the comments and have to say, we'd all be a lot better off if republicans were not quite so stupid. But reason has no impact against greed, bigotry and religious fanaticism.

Anyway, Ryan's just a nasty little creep whose first task is to become as two faced as Willard. "I did that but right now I am going to lie about what I believe." Is that not Williard and Paulie in a nutshell?

Their lies aside, I can just see these two punks getting tough with China. They wouldn't even get past the Wal-mart Greeter.

I think Jon Huntsman... the only respectable GoP candidate this election season said it best. "We are in no economic position to get into a trade war with China"

To bad the GoP was not interested in logic, facts, or rational thinking.... they all had anti-Obama on the brain.

(A political parody song written by Bruce-1628250, to the tune of "Here Comes Peter Cottontail" by Steve Edward Nelson / Jack Rollins)

• Romney Ryan Fail!

• (Flippity Floppity, Flippity Floppity, Flippity Floppity)

• Romney Ryan tellin' tales
• Boppin' down the campaign trails
• Flippity Floppity to Election Day

• Vulture Man is bringin' joy
• Like his sidekick Voucher Boy
• To Obama - Biden every day!

• No Health Care plan for Mommy
• Or even sister Sue
• There's Medicare for Grammy
• But nothing left for you!

• (Flippity Floppity, Flippity Floppity)

• Romney Ryan tellin' tales
• Boppin' down the campaign trails
• Flippity Floppity Truth gets in the way!

• So Ryan's dissin' China now
• Flipped from twenty-ten and how!
• Back when he said China was "Okay!"

• But now their stealin' our ideas
• And don't buy what we sell
• Their playin' games with currencies
• So they should "Go To Hell!"

• (Flippity Floppity, Flippity Floppity)

• Romney Ryan tellin' tales
• Boppin' down the campaign trails
• Listen close for what they really say

• "Vote for us, you really should"
• Maybe if you're extra good
• Something wet may trickle down your way

• So come Election morning
• When you go to cast your vote
• Tell R and R to take a hike
• Or get in their Swift Boat!

• (Flippity Floppity, Flippity Floppity)

• Romney Ryan tellin' tales
• Both of them are Epic Fails
• Now it's time to send them on their way!

• Flippity Floppity, Flippity Floppity,
• Both of them are Epic Fails

• Flippity Floppity, Flippity Floppity,
• And now it's time to send them on their way!

In September of 2010, President Obama met with the Prime Minister of China and was more forceful about the need for China to allow it's currency to achieve it's natural exchange rate. He was reported as stating that if China did not address the exchange rate issues, the US would consider measures in Congress to place a tariff on China goods equivalent to the benefit of the currency manipulation.

In January of 2011, the White House put out a fact sheet noting the number of jobs that would be created in the US if the Chinese enforced intellectual property rights on software and other items. That same month, the Chinese President was received by the Obama administration in an official state visit. President Obama was more vocal there noting China's human rights violations.

...The Obama administration has been active in pleading its case before the WTO. In the seven cases brought before the WTO, the administration has been vey successful in showing that China has been routinely violating its obligations in relation to the WTO. Links to the cases are given below.

Before this, Dubya and other Republicans were the doormats.

you have to wonder, did the old guard of the Republican Party (you know, the ones who elected President George H.W. Bush, President Reagan, Governor Schwarzenegger, Sen. Lugar) convince the party regulars to force Mitt Romney into the Tea Party conservative extremist mold so that they could rid the GOP of these nuts ?

If Romney and Ryan are not lying, they are just plain stupid.

Bruce, I love the lyrics. I hope you don't mind if I have sent it to some friends, I think they'll get a hoot out of it.

Good job, man.

Attention all you Romney/Ryan fans;

Rasmussen – your favorite pooling organization – has some BAD news for you. Last week, before Mr. Flip-Flop announced Ryan was his VP choice, they had Romney up by 4%. Today they have him up by only 1%. But hey – don’t get too worried. Fox had him down by 9% last week and they still do. So according to Fox, Mitt hasn't lost any ground.

If someone would just keep a campaign promise. They will tell you what ever you want to hear. All I know is we all had better learn Spanglish. This will be a tight contest as Obama has lost many many supporters. They can look back with horror at the last four years and not imagine four more. China is a thief on intellectual property and hacking. It is what they do. The rest of the stuff they do is because we have a weak government that lets them. I do not think the Americans likes it but how can you control politicians? Vote them out until the get it right. Remember that or keep being a door mat.

Republican hypocrisy again showing it's ugly head. Do these candidates really think that people are dumb enough to believe one thing one day and a totally different story the next? I don't think so.

Top 5 Worst Things About Eddy Munster's aka Paul Ryan's Record

1. Paul Ryan authored budget proposals that would end Medicare as we know it. His budget proposal would repeal health care reform, sticking seniors with the bill and leaving their health care at risk. This is especially problematic for women, who make up fifty-six percent of Medicare beneficiaries.

2. Paul Ryan’s budget plan would have cut SNAP grants by 18%. SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) grants, also known as food stamps, has kept 3.9 million Americans (equivalent to the entire population of Oregon), including 1.7 million children, out of poverty, and allowed them to keep their families from going hungry. This plan also would have drastically cut jobs, leaving 174,000 people out of work.

3. Paul Ryan is bad for women. He voted for a bill that would have effectively banned abortion coverage by insurers who received federal or taxpayer funding. This bill, which Ryan favored, would have allowed anyone involved to refuse to perform an abortion for any reason, even if the life of the woman needing the abortion was in danger.

4. Paul Ryan is extremely anti-choice. Paul Ryan voted for the Protect Life Act, which grants hospitals far-reaching powers to deny women abortion care, without any exception for emergency situations. US law currently requires hospitals receiving federal funds to provide emergency care to anyone in need up to the point at which they can be stabilized or transferred, if the original hospital is incapable of providing the care they need. "The misnamed Protect Life Act is about allowing women to die if they need an emergency abortion," said Meghan Rhoad, women’s rights researcher at Human Rights Watch. "It is a vicious attack on women’s rights and on the most basic right to life.’”

5. Paul Ryan wants to defund Planned Parenthood. This ideological attack would only result in more women losing access to necessary and basic health care. One in five American women have used Planned Parenthood health services.

There you have it. While Mitt Romney parades Paul Ryan around as his pick to be first in the line of succession to the presidency, you now have the facts. Paul Ryan has a long history of voting against affordable health care and women’s health. His legislative priorities leave millions of people at risk of losing their health care and in medical and financial danger. Combined with Mitt Romney’s bad policies, it’s clear: the Romney/Ryan ticket is bad for women and families.

Lets see Eddy Munster FLIP FLOP HIS WAY OUT OF THOSE 5

Bruce1628250

By the way those lyrics are great let's put it to a beat and put it on u tube

so the whole world can have a laugh at this clown!

LMAO!

Not polite to make fun of our President Witchking.

Mr. Marvelous is Etch-A-Sketch junior!

This is the best duo money could buy? I almost feel bad for the billionaires financing the Romney/Ryan ticket. Imagine losing that much money on an election - wait, are these the same billionaires who invested in split derivatives and tanked the world's economy? What is this called, financial Darwinism?

Birds of a feather Flip flop together.

Republicans = "we will take democratic positions to get elected and then cut Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security".

So now, Ryan wants to do away with employer based health insurance, and make the person responsible for the cost.

What's next?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/15/us-usa-campaign-ryan-healthtax-idUSBRE87E12320120815

"Most working Americans today get their health insurance through their employers and pay no taxes on the benefits. But self-employed people have to get healthcare on the open market, a situation that Romney has framed as unfair."

So instead we would get "capped payments".......welcome to another voucher program.

You can change your mind, that is fine. Though it should be for real reasons and not political maneuvering.

What is underhanded and hypocritical is changing your mind, then blaming others for the lack of change that you helped fight against.

Rick,

If Romney or Ryan would release any specific data about what they would do, we could have a debate.

Otherwise, we are all set up for the "bait and switch".

Kind of like the way Ryan was for fiscal responsibility, until it came to voting for the Bush tax cuts, 2 Bush wars and the unfunded Medicare prescription drug benefits--all of which he supported but now says he regrets. Right.

So, I guess absolutely no one else on here has ever changed his/her mind on anything in their entire lifetime? Sometimes you study an issue some more and decide that your original position was not correct and adopt another position on that topic.

I mean, gee, how many times has Obama "evolved" on issues? Why don't the liberal posters here count up the number of evolutions over his political career and get back to me on that? I don't think a lot of you can count that high!

Rick! What a freakin genius you are! Tell us all those ways Obama has of getting tough on china without needing any laws to do it.

Come on, Rick, deliver the fruits of your deep thoughts on international trade.

To Ayn Rand:

Hey girl, I know you are a plutocrat like me, but now that I know you are pro-choice and anti-war, we can't see each other anymore. XO Paul Ryan

Oh "for Pete's sake," when the 3:00 am call comes, Romney and Ryan would be playing paper scissors rock.

Why............did you look at the alternatives? Republicans have few choices either for President or VP it seems.............Romney sure wasn't going to choose any of those that were running against him..........they know too much and pointed out his flip flopping repeatedly..............Now we will forget all that and pretend that only the Democrats know and say the same things.

It will be fun to watch Biden and Ryan debate. That should garner more viewers than Wheel of Fortune.

Indeed, Ryan was one of 74 Republicans who voted against this legislation that easily passed the House that year; the legislation never made it out of the Senate.

Ever hear of Obama's boy Harry Reid? The Article is a bit biased.

Like Romney, Ryan hardly has any foreign policy experience. This ignorance makes both of them a true liability in international affairs, as they misrepresent this nation's interests in the eyes of the rest of the world.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57492392/does-the-romney-ryan-lack-of-foreign-policy-experience-matter/

Out of 311 million people in this country, these 2 hypocrites are the best the republicans could come up with. HA! But there is a real possibility these bozos could win, simply because they are in the race.

rradiko: Neither does Obama (Hilary is a disaster). Romney and Ryan may not be better but I do not have a problem with giving them a try under the circumstances.

Burning: Ryan/Biden will be great, I agree. I'd like to see Ryan/Obama, but we know that that will never happen.

Newsfan: And Obama does not use executive orders to buy votes with Taxpayer money? Obama does not lie? How about Ryan will shut down air traffic control? I guess if the lie is big enough anyone will believe it

How about pushing grandma over the cliff, By a pre-election"Executive Order" he cut FICA (Federal Insurance Contributions Act) tax which funds Social Security to give voters, at Grandma"s expense, a couple of bucks (he fraudulently called FICA a "wage tax" so the American people won't know what he was doing). Guess what, guys, come January, right after the election, FICA goes back up again -- there was nothing economic about the reduction, it was only spending money, that we don't have, to buy votes at Grandma's expense.

Well THERE IS A BIG SURPRISE!!! Not....

What a CLOWN SHOW. Mutt Head and Ryan are so busy lying and contradicting each other no one can keep track. It's a Bozo fest with those two.

Ryan is not just a flip-flopper understudy to the master, Romney. He is a hypocrit. They are the most untrustworthy ticket in a very ling time.

More evidence that the Republicans put their own quest for power above what is best for the nation.

Mr. Marvelous is Etch-A-Sketch junior!

I was leaning more on a Magna Doodle but that's fair enough! XD

Flip-Flop Jr....

Sounds like Ryan has already learned a lot from Romney. Tell the crowd what they want to hear.

Voted up for quoting COC.

Chucky Stuart

Voted up for quoting COC.

The wife and i are huge CoC/Pepper Keenan fans. 'Vote with a Bullet' is one of the greatest songs ever. ;-)

The quote is a great catch from the article. These guys are not Nazis, they're Fascists in the Mussolini sense, but that's probably the most Hitlerian quote ever from a US pol.

I think Americans prefer to give President Obama the moral authority to make policy decisions, he has, after all, earned it, being the only politician in Washington who puts country before Party, un-like Rep.Ryan, that partisan hack.

Obama Cares.

Sharky, remember that song, "This land is your land, this land is my land..."

Much as you might want it, American is not reserved for homophobic idiots like yourself!

Sharky, Im ignoring your childish rants and wrecklessness with the truth, but your claim of no promises kept is unfounded.

Obama Promises Kept:

Ending the war in Iraq

Ening the war in Afghanistan (drawdown is already beginning)

Passing Healthcare Reform

Going after Al qeuada and Bin Laden (Bin Laden dead as well as almost their entire senior leadership

Equal PAy for women (Lilly Ledbetter Act)

Lowered taxes for Small Business

Lower taxes for the Middle Class

Saving the American Auto Industry

Stimulus that averted a depression

Ghaddafy gone

Mubarek gone

Assad soon to be gone

Snarky,

I'm curious, did you vote for GW/Cheney? I'd bet the farm "yes". You do know that Cheney supports his kids 100%, right? Including his lesbian daughter... So you voted into the 2nd most powerful office on earth a "Pervert" supporter!? So by your logic, we need to keep folks like you out of "our country". Shame on you, according to you.

2-Lane Gypsy

You, sir, or maam are a dumb ass.

Obama Promises Kept:

Ending the war in Iraq - so why do we still have troops dying there?

Ening the war in Afghanistan (drawdown is already beginning) - more kids still dying there

Passing Healthcare Reform - which most Americans despise

Going after Al qeuada and Bin Laden (Bin Laden dead as well as almost their entire senior leadership) - Obama didn't have much to do with killiing Bin Laden, our Navy Seals did that. And learn to spell.

Equal PAy for women (Lilly Ledbetter Act) - Women are still not receiving equal pay.

Lowered taxes for Small Business - and regulates them so much they won't hire

Lower taxes for the Middle Class - by extending the Bush tax cuts

Saving the American Auto Industry - at a cost to tax payers of 25 billion. Thank you so much.

Stimulus that averted a depression - which was another waste of tax payer money, with no proof it averted a damn thing.

Ghaddafy gone - What was he doing to us? Nothing. This was to protect European oil, idiot.

Mubarek gone - our ally, tossed under a bus. Muslim Brotherhood now in power. Good job Obama, you dumb ass.

Assad soon to be gone - We've done nothing to help Syria. I'm sure they'll love us for it.

Typical dip@!$%# liberal, has his head up Obama's ass.

Richie Rich and Eddie Munster, way to go Republicans, steal what little bit GW and that dick Cheney didn't get!

Job1: You just scared the he!! out of me.

Obama '12

Maybe it's time all us 99% peasants grabbed our pitchforks and torches stormed Frankenstein’s castle and drove a steak through the hearts of these Monsters

LMAO!

Yes they do favor that just as long as they are in the drivers seat.

They would probably goose step wherever they were lead because dissent isn't allowed in the republican party. It may be a political weakness that democrats often disagree vehemently amongst themselves on certain issues but I'd rather be part of an intellectually honest row than a head nodding self admiration society.

LOL! That should be the new Democrat battle cry :-)

Mitt Wit the Twit

LOST THE ELECTION BY NOMINATING EDDY MUNSTER FOR VP

THIS GUY IS A BIGGER CLOWN THAN SARA NUT JOB, "I CAN SEE RUSSIA" PALIN

LMAO!

No kidding, if Obama had even tried to do something against China, the Reps would have been telling us that Obama is trying to get us in a war with the China. They would have been screaming and hollering that we can't afford it, but Obama wants to bring the US down.

For someone to be part of blocking measures to fix the problem with china, then turning around and saying that it was the presidents fault that nothing was done is the height of flip/flopping, hypocrisy, and straight up dishonesty.

Ryan must take his heroine Ayn Rand seriously, only out for himself. He will say and do anything to create position and power for himself. Altruism doesn't exist in his world.

Did you read the article?

china? Obama kisses their arse!

Not hardly:

May 30, 2012
The U.S. Commerce Department slapped tariffs on Chinese wind-turbine towers, the latest chapter in a clean-energy trade battle between Washington and Beijing.The preliminary ruling, made in response to a complaint filed in December by a group of U.S. turbine-tower makers, found that Chinese firms enjoyed unfair government support, including grants, preferential tax treatment and cheaper prices for raw materials. The Commerce Department announced duties of between 13% and 26% on Chinese tower makers. The department will rule this summer on a related antidumping complaint brought against Chinese and Vietnamese tower makers.

Aug 1, 2012
The United States Commerce Department on July 31 set a preliminary countervailing duties rate on steel tanks made in China. The rate was set at 2.12 percent to 13.94 percent, the US Commerce Department said. The US will also launch an antidumping probe on steel tanks made in China. The US Commerce Department is expected to make a final decision later this year.

Jun 4, 2012
Tariffs imposed on Chinese solar panel imports by the US Department of Commerce have come in the 30% range as expected with a 31% tariff placed on panels from China’s biggest panel makers. The tariff hike is designed to be both a punishment on the Chinese solar panel manufacturers that Washington believes have been dumping low cost panels on the US, while also aiming to prevent them and other panel markers from doing so in future and undermining the US panel manufacturing sector.

In total, the Department of Commerce identified 61 Chinese companies (including major players such as Yingli Green Energy, LDK Solar, Canadian Solar, Hanwha solar One, JA Solar Holding and Jinko Solar) as dumpers and they will all be required to pay the 31% tariff.

Washington is also wise to the old trick of name changing and shipping under different brand names and third countries and so, therefore, the new tariffs also applies to Chinese panel makers who have not previously exported to the US. Any now wishing to do so will be required to pay a 250% tariff. The changes in duties are expected to be confirmed in October.

There is a lesson there for all of us.

*MEOW* ;o)

I used to have a dog - she thought she was a wolf. Any critter that dared enter our backyard was met by our dog, they got a dark bark from her upon their arrival to which the critter would high tail it back to wherever.

One day a stray came by and she ran up to him - she barked in her most persuasive manner, whereupon the other dog barked back. This had never happened to her before and she was the one high-tailing it to our back door. There is a lesson there for all of us.

I guess Dr Seuss didnt rhyme it enough...

mGrinder - way to cut & paste!

My roommate used to have a parrot. He would place a cracker between his lips, and say Polly Wanna Cracker, and the parrot would mime Polly Wanna Cracker and as a reward, take the cracker and enjoy the snack.

One day a friend came a visiting, picked up the bird, and said Polly Wanna a cracker without a cracker between his lips. The parrot mimed his usually reply and promptly bit through his lip.

Note to Romney/Ryan - there is a lesson in there - if you are going to parrot a parrot, make sure you have substance to back it up, lest you get bitten but good.

Cats for Obama----28 more years!!! Meow.

The funny thing is, well, sad really. If you listen to what a Republican complains about democrats, it is exactly what they are doing themselves. They are always bitching and moaning.

His heroine Ayn Rand teaches the polar opposite of what Jesus taught. It truly boggles the mind that anyone would listen to him.

He is truly out for his OWN self gain, nothing else matters. He doesn't even believe that it is possible to be altruistic and help others. Which means, for self gain, he would do absolutely anything.

Ryan also doesn't seem to understand that self-employed people can deduct their health insurance payments.

Sam Houston Institute of Technology is a division of Bigmouth University of Language and Logic. Willard and Ryan are both heavy contributors to both of these fine organizations

In spite of the TEApubliCONS best efforts the country now has net job gains instead of the net job losses we had when President Obama took office. During President Obamas tenure our country has created enough jobs to go from net job lose to net job gain. The TEApubliCons may say this is nothing but I believe it is a significant feat.

The President is throwing himself to the "wolves" by his own inept policies. As for rich people, why is it that you are so jealous of success? I thought that's what this country was founded on. The American Dream. Has it evolved into a new American Dream? People sitting around just waiting for their government handout? People not taking responsibility for their own lives?People expecting "Big Brother" to swaddle them from cradle to grave? I for one have to much respect for myself to allow other hard working taxpayers keep me. Remember, it is NOT GOVERNMENT MONEY, it is TAXPAYERS DOLLARS. Someone needs to tell Barack and Michelle Obama that!

Rich are great!!

Only problem is with the few rich that try to take power from the people of this great nation (buying government, or trying to dismantle it so they can fill the void) and then make rules to favor themselves and create loopholes for themselves. These are the problems. To be rich is not bad, and democrats do not think it is. But, to game the system on the backs of the masses is Evil self interest, the opposite of what our founders intended and the absolute opposite of what Jesus and the Bible teach.

TPRosales, don't you understand? War's good business so invest your son (with apologies to Jefferson Airplane). All the wars since Vietnam have been rich men's wars and poor men's fight. Look at how much money Cheney made through defered compensation from Halliburton.

amerigal, my cute little ditzerino, trying to keep the corporations/the rich from taking over the country is not jealousy of success. It is an attempt to ward off fascism. Go read your Mussolini, my little brainiac.

Amerigal.

Most people are not jealous of success. They simply want an income that will allow them to a. buy a home, it doesn't have to be huge - b. put food on the table for their family, and c - help them to save a for the education of their children. The middle class figured out long ago that to try to keep up with others isn't a recipe for their success - they simply have different priorities. They don't need a car elevator in their homes. And, knowing a few millionaires, I doubt that they are any happier than the average person.

Uh, better get more tinfoil for that hat. Unless you have any proof, of course. BTW, Agnew was a very smart guy, but also a crook. THAT, little fella, can be documented.

Sharky -- I'm putting you on ignore for saying that Biden ordered the killing of his wife. If you're willing to say something like that, you can't be believed on anything.

Hey, sharky's okay but some have said he's child abusing wife beater. Have you stopped, sharky? I don't know if you can trust what "some" say, but, after all, they have taught sharky everything he knows.

Now THAT'S Funny!

Everyone knows that Paul Ryan has never Evolved! That's his biggest problem. He's still stuck in the stone age!

Snort. "Evolving"? I'm sure a strict Catholic like Ryan is anti-evolution. And Amerigal, please, find another rhetorical tactic than "but, but, but, Johnny did it!", You reason and argue like a twelve-year-old.

amerigal, are you suggesting that there are signs of homsessual lust between Paulie and Mittsy? Oh, my! I must listen to a sermon by John Hagee, pastor of GET(money)TV.

Paul Ryan evolving? Funny - he is probably one of the ones that Boner called a "knuckle dragger".