The battleground path less traveled: Why Obama's in Iowa for three days

Looking at the president's schedule, one might think it was primary season again.

He's spent the last three days in Iowa and then, this weekend, it's off to New Hampshire. What's next -- South Carolina and Florida? Well, maybe Florida.

Four of the top 10 hottest advertising markets right now are, in fact, in Iowa.

So why all the focus on these smaller states with few electoral votes -- since it is no longer primary season?

It's because there's a path for Obama to win reelection without needing to win the big toss-up states most think about -- Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and North Carolina. But that path does not exist without Iowa and New Hampshire, which between them accounts for 10 electoral votes (six in Iowa, four in New Hampshire).

If Obama holds the Kerry-won 2004 states, including New Hampshire, and Obama adds Colorado, Nevada, and New Mexico -- with a good turnout among Hispanics in the West -- he would be at 272, two electoral votes above the needed 270 to win reelection.

But without Iowa or New Hampshire that second path evaporates.

The president has faced something of an uphill climb in Iowa this cycle. He won the state that launched his candidacy in 2008 by 10 points, but this time around, polls show a toss up. Part of that is because Republicans had the state all to themselves for a year and were able to drive the message.

The president hopes to push a message of an improved economy -- Iowa's unemployment rate is better than the national average -- as well as Mitt Romney's opposition to the wind tax credit and even perhaps make a play for seniors with Paul Ryan picked as Romney's VP.

But there is still widespread pessimism. The luster has worn off. The question will be -- has it worn off enough to flip it to Romney?

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*waves* to Jody in Iowa

She had the wonderful opportunity of getting to see the President & First Lady today!

Take tons of pic's! ;o)

The luster has worn off. The question will be -- has it worn off enough to flip it to Romney?

Ummm... who was the 'superstar' who got heckled there on Monday... again?

  • 30 votes
#1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:29 PM EDT

Wow, this is interesting:

A former four-term Democratic congressman from Alabama and one time strong supporter of President Barack Obama will campaign for Mitt Romney Wednesday.

A Romney campaign aide confirms to CNN that Artur Davis will stump for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee in the battleground state of Virginia.

Ok libbys spin time.......... LMAO

  • 15 votes
#1.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:33 PM EDT

BFD, Fisty!

Why don't you EVER contribute a comment that is related (or heaven forbid pertinent) to the topic of the article?

All you ever to is 'wave' to your GF's and spit hate at conservatives.

(NOW... SHOW ME THE CLOWN NOSE!)

  • 13 votes
#1.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

Be sure to tell us all about it Jody!

I saw Michelle's profile in a car driving by my work when she was in Portland, and even that was pretty darn exciting!

  • 23 votes
#1.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

The photos out of Iowa this week were some of the best of the campaign season. Breathtaking really.

http://theobamadiary.com/2012/08/14/willard-meet-your-waterloo/

The president was clearly enjoying himself as were those there to meet him. The crowds gave him a wonderful warm reception to their state.

  • 28 votes
#1.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

waves* to Jody in Iowa

She had the wonderful opportunity of getting to see the President & First Lady today!

Take tons of pic's! ;o)

Let the righties see the crowds President Obama has in contrast to Romney/ Ryan homogenous

  • 21 votes
#1.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

Where is the ad from camp Romney 'blaming' Obama for the drought conditions in Iowa? No doubt, it will be coming soon .. something along the lines that God is so pissed at 'Iowans for Democrats', he had no choice but to punish the citizens of the great state with a drought.

  • 25 votes
#1.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:42 PM EDT

Sick what do expect from that camel. Spit its bile at everything right of castro.

Feisty wants to talk about Romney's plan

h ttp://www.mittromney.com/jobs

now you can comment. of course as a paid blogger, cant discuss issues. steer the narrative off the cliff.

  • 9 votes
#1.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

RedDip, you are thinking of the libbys blaming Bush for Katrina. Only the libbys make wild accusations and have the real nutjobs believe them.

  • 14 votes
#1.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

It's in the same place as Obama's ad blaming Bush for the drought!

HA!

(show me the clown nose, fisty!)

  • 12 votes
#1.9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

Paul Ryan is but Ayn Rand in drag. The man was in love with a dead woman.

  • 20 votes
#1.10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

Thanks Pat for the pics from the Obama Photo diary.

the way the little children gravitate to our President. Most people are repelled by Romney/Ryan. SMH

Have you seen this picture of Ryan

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ss9p9Zcb1rdad60o1_500.jpg

Absolutely 4more years for 44

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 18 votes
#1.11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

as well as Mitt Romney's opposition to the wind tax credit

And as anyone who has been to Northern Iowa has seen, there are a ton of wind farms.

  • 13 votes
#1.12 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

RedSoxRule

Wow, this is interesting:

A former four-term Democratic congressman from Alabama and one time strong supporter of President Barack Obama will campaign for Mitt Romney Wednesday.

You must not get out much, in alabama the demcrats are red necks from the back woods.

this is nothing new.
read a history book my friend.

  • 10 votes
#1.13 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

A former four-term Democratic congressman from Alabama and one time strong supporter of President Barack Obama will campaign for Mitt Romney Wednesday.

A Romney campaign aide confirms to CNN that Artur Davis will stump for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee in the battleground state of Virginia.

Ok libbys spin time.......... LMAO

Gee...maybe we can react better than the way Conservatives reacted to Colin Powell endorsing the President back in 2008.

  • 22 votes
#1.14 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

Hey RedDev...

In that Obama ad blaming Bush for that same drought, Obama was pointing his finger at the farmers and saying something about Bush putting their tractors in chains!

HA!

(Will the representative from Fisty-land please show me the clown nose!)

  • 8 votes
#1.15 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:54 PM EDT

Jeffy, really? News that hit this am is in your history book? Wow, you need to lay off the juice so early. LMAO

Poor noid. I will just pray for you.

  • 9 votes
#1.16 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:54 PM EDT

The luster has worn off.

That is a hell of an understatement.

Reality always wins, folks.

  • 8 votes
#1.17 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

The luster has worn off.

Apparently it hasn't for 'trickle-down' economics. Thirty years of failure and the GOP/TP still advocates its use.

  • 18 votes
#1.18 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

"You didn't grow that"

hey Xabre i know you support each according to his need/ability garbage but capitalism is a big part of our Democratic Republic.

Remember Xabre Unky Lenin wants you!

  • 10 votes
#1.19 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

hey Xabre i know you support each according to his need/ability garbage but capitalism is a big part of our Democratic Republic.

Remember Xabre Unky Lenin wants you!

You've gone from being unable to construct a coherent sentence, to not making any sense whatsoever. You think I was advocating a move from capitalism (the USA isn't capitalist anyway, but that's another topic)? Where exactly did I do that? Protip: Systems of government and economics are two different things.

  • 16 votes
#1.20 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

RedSoxRule (the cellar)-

Only the libbys make wild accusations and have the real nutjobs believe them.

You mean like President Obama being a Kenyan-Muslim-Socialist-Fascist-Communist, who went to college as a foreign exchange student (after selling enough drugs to pay his way) and hung out with Bill Ayers?

Romney has as much chance of winning the 2012 election as the Red Sox do of winning the 2012 AL pennant. Its a toss-up as to which team is more poorly managed.....

Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!

  • 23 votes
#1.21 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

Caesar Augustus-

"You didn't grow that"

Paul Ryan ... "I put it all on the Nation's credit card for 8 years.'

Show us the fiscal Ryan Caesar or should we just start calling you Augustus Shrugged?.

  • 18 votes
#1.22 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

Beverly, you are welcome. I think it's hard sometimes for people to see our president always on the news as some far away leader. But when he goes out to meet with people, he always leaves everyone with a smile on their faces. Not only here in America, but all over the world.

People feel his warmth and kindness. At least that's what I'm detecting from the photos. The children especially really look up to our president in a way that was only reserved for athletes at one time.

I was stunned last night by the reporting on MSNBC over Ryan. It's all everyone was talking about this morning @ work - Rachel, Lawrence, Ed, Chris and Rev. Al.

Stunning work with guests who do their homework and know who he really is. A hypocrite. Who is no fiscal conservative

Just wish I could see Martin Bashir on primetime. I do watch his videos later at night when I get home. He deserves a primetime program. He is terrific.

  • 17 votes
#1.23 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

Red Sux

A former four-term Democratic congressman from Alabama and one time strong supporter of President Barack Obama will campaign for Mitt Romney Wednesday.

A Romney campaign aide confirms to CNN that Artur Davis will stump for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee in the battleground state of Virginia.

Ok libbys spin time.......... LMAO

REDSucker

Artur Davis

Republican (2012–present)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artur_Davis

=======================================

A sucker looks for acceptance in all the wrong places. Artur Davis' campaigning will have minimal effect the same as your's does.

Nobody but Obama

4 more years for 44 without a doubt

Obama/Biden 2012



  • 11 votes
#1.24 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:10 PM EDT

blackcat

Show us the fiscal Ryan Caesar.

Ryan Caesar who's that?

  • 4 votes
#1.25 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:12 PM EDT

blackcat call me what you want. I shrug off much of what you say. You have the obsession with Ayn Rand

  • 8 votes
#1.26 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

Pat Boston MA.

Beverly, you are welcome. I think it's hard sometimes for people to see our president always on the news as some far away leader. But when he goes out to meet with people, he always leaves everyone with a smile on their faces. Not only here in America, but all over the world.

Pat

You are welcome too. I our President as do most Chicagoans. We are very proud of him. I do believe he will be in the history books as one president making a significant impact in this country and the world.

Everywhere Romney/Ryan go there is dissension from their ignominious homogenous crowd. The same applies to the righies who post here.



  • 15 votes
#1.27 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

RedDip, you are thinking of the libbys blaming Bush for Katrina. Only the libbys make wild accusations and have the real nutjobs believe them.

There you go again with the lies. No one blamed Bush for Katrina but we did notice how long it took to get help to the victims of the storm and how slow his Administration reacted to their pleas for help. He did okay with the bridge collapse in Minneapolis, having learned from Katrina. Of corse the bridge thing was smaller but we'll take what we can get from ol' incompetent, corrupt, worst president ever, Bush.

Paul Ryan is but Ayn Rand in drag

Have you noticed that the letters in Ayn Rand and Paul Ryan are similar. The names even sound fairly close. Could that be an omen? A coincidence?

A blend of capitalism and socialism are required in today's world. Those who will go to extremes either direction will be trampled on by those advancing through the 21st Century. Those who stagnate or go retro will be trampled badly.

  • 13 votes
#1.28 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

Iowans are hardworking, intelligent, open minded people. They are way too smart to flip for Mitt!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 13 votes
#1.29 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

Hey RedDev...

In that Obama ad blaming Bush for that same drought, Obama was pointing his finger at the farmers and saying something about Bush putting their tractors in chains!

HA!

I knew these RWNJ trolls were easily distracted, but this is comical. Shouldn't be surprised as these folks can't even post a comment without first checking in with Faux news to get the daily talking point.

  • 16 votes
#1.30 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

Xabre, USA is a Democratic Republic economically fueled by Free Market Capatilism. Look if you can't understand what I write, that is your problem. Calling me out on my laziness when writing on blog is really telling of you. You want incoherent talk to your friend Bev.

  • 7 votes
#1.31 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

Adler

A blend of capitalism and socialism are required in today's world. Those who will go to extremes either direction will be trampled on by those advancing through the 21st Century. Those who stagnate or go retro will be trampled badly.

You mean like Europe? They're advanced huh?

  • 6 votes
#1.32 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

Antler, you are a riot! Ok, so you must really condemn Obama for how long it took to deal with the BP oil spill, right? Now don't be a hypocrite and say that you do.

LMAO

Obama took forever to even go to the Gulf during the oil spill, and he was obstructing the cleanup!!

So prove you aren't a hypocrite! I know you won't.

  • 8 votes
#1.33 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

9 days right Redsox to respond to it? how much BP oil is in Obama's back pocket? Libs are hypocrites. I feel sorry for democrats.

  • 8 votes
#1.34 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

Xabre, USA is a Democratic Republic economically fueled by Free Market Capatilism.

I said it once and I'll say it again: the USA is not capitalist. The USA is a mixed economy. Perhaps if you had any clue whatsoever people would give weight to your words.

You mean like Europe? They're advanced huh?

My avatar pretty much represents my response to this comment.

  • 9 votes
#1.35 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:52 PM EDT

Wow, Obama did a number on you in 08. Tell me liberals, where is that same energy now from Obama? What happened to hope and change? I haven't heard him say that one time this election... Obama is going down and it is very apparent by the lack of positive energy from his side... Positive energy? My gosh, it's all negative energy... Biden telling a crowd of blacks that they will be put in chains if they vote for Romney... That's so positive for the Obama campaign..

I see the president angry, confused, turbulent, and he's screwing up left and right... why is that liberals, if you so firmly believe he's going to win the election... maybe Obama isn't as positive as you are... and that's not good for him.

  • 7 votes
#1.36 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

Caesar Augustus-

No Caesar it is Paul Ryan who has an obsession with Ms Rand. Paul has confessed this many a time. Confession is good for the soul, ante up Kaiser or are you like Paul Ryan and willing to sell your soul for the sake of expediency?

  • 10 votes
#1.37 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:02 PM EDT

Brianb - I can't believe you honestly are out of touch enough not to know President Obama is getting re-elected. All the GOP has done is obstruct and lie. But, if you want that as leadership - I pity you!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 12 votes
#1.38 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

Oh Xabe, you are a confused little fella. Make no mistake about it, America was founded as a Capitalist society and continued to be one up until the Marxist Obama took office. He has pushed America toward something unrecognizable.

So, I can understand your confusion since Obama has pushed us toward socialism so hard.

  • 4 votes
#1.39 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

Hey Bev!

Have you seen the pictures from WGN on the thousands of people at Navy Pier applying for the Dream Act?

Full story: http://bit.ly/MZX3fL

Children no longer being punished for the sins of their parents!

What a beautiful sight!

  • 12 votes
#1.40 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

Oh Xabe, you are a confused little fella. Make no mistake about it, America was founded as a Capitalist society and continued to be one up until the Marxist Obama took office. He has pushed America toward something unrecognizable.

Yeah, you have no clue what "mixed economy" means either. You posters really do make me chuckle.

  • 12 votes
#1.41 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

Xabe, you may even be a more confused little fella than I thought. Maybe someday you will understand, but I doubt it since you don't like facts.

  • 2 votes
#1.42 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:10 PM EDT

Barack and Michelle were quite at home since they were offspring of the Children of the Corn.

  • 3 votes
#1.43 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

THE HITS JUST KEEP ON COMING!

You’re a rich churl, and you’ve gone to far.

‘Cause you know it don’t matter anyway.

You can rely on the Adelson money.

You can rely on the Koch bro’s honey.

It’s a bitch churl, but it’s gone too far.

‘Cause you know it don’t matter anyway.

Say dirty money won’t get you to far, get you to far.

High and dry and out of the rain.

It’s so easy to cut the elderly,

When you don’t feel their pain.

And don’t you know, economy won’t grow.

‘Cause there’s so much to give,

But you’d rather live,

For taking it all.

You’re a rich churl, and you’ve gone to far.

‘Cause you know it don’t matter anyway.

You can rely on the CPAC money.

You love to spin Karl Rove’s baloney.

Ryan’s your bitch churl, and it’s gone to far.

‘Cause you know it don’t matter anyway.

Cayman money, it won’t get you to far.

Switzerland money, no, it won’t get you to far.

Get you to far.

And you say,

“Mitt can rely on the dirty money.

Hoping to buy a couple voting dummies.”

You’re a rich churl, a rich churl,

Yeah, you’re a rich, rich churl.

Say money, but the White House is to far.

Oh, it’s just to far.

(apologies to Hall and Oates)

P.S. Mitt Romney/ Paul Ryan = T. Money Trim 'N' Rapy Luau

P.P.S. Rombot.Has.Nothing.

  • 10 votes
#1.44 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

its really a matter of Opinion, I have seen where the US is considered Mixed Econ. I would say it's predominently capitalist. But Xabe, you're avatar is about star trek the next generation not Europe.

But please oh please Sigma Cum Laude do continue to show your 'elitism' and keep Learnin me since im an un-edumacated redneck.

Unky Lenin wants you

  • 4 votes
#1.45 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:14 PM EDT

Ben - and yet they are clearly heads above you! You'd have to reach WAAAAAAY up to even touch the bottom of the soles of Barack and Michelle Obama. But you're a GREAT Republican - you betcha!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 12 votes
#1.46 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

Caesar Augustus-

Adler

You mean like Europe? They're advanced huh?

Been there many times over the past several years. Advanced? Yes they are. Great healthcare, internet speeds that make a mockery of America's, cell phones that cost 3 times less, credit and banking cards that are safe to use and having had far more damage done to them via wars and terrorism they are not scared @!$%#less. Green has meaning and soon America will only experience it as envy.

  • 11 votes
#1.47 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

i know you're lying now. nothing cost less, even the socialized medicine they are starting to rethink. Stray Cat, if you love it so much you are free to move there. Really, after all you have the means to travel there, why not make it permanent. Please quit trying to fundamentally change America.

  • 3 votes
#1.48 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Hey Bev!

Have you seen the pictures from WGN on the thousands of people at Navy Pier applying for the Dream Act?

Full story: http://bit.ly/MZX3fL

Children no longer being punished for the sins of their parents!

What a beautiful sight!

Don't fall down now Beisty! I agree it was a beautiful site. Why would you say punished by the sins of their Parents?

Their Parents came here to give them a better life. I would do anything for my children to give them a better life and I don't considered that a sin. I might brake the law but not a sin.

Any mother or father would do that. Wouldn't you?

I just hope that a real law is passed to make that path simpler and faster. Obama's executive directive was good but it falls a little short. He should have done this on his first year.

  • 3 votes
#1.49 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

Caesar, it is the Fundamentalists that are trying to change America through a myopic vision of a good old days fantasy and that it is at the end of days regressive. The world changes and the Founding Fathers new this, hence the ability to amend the Constitution. For me that is one of the major pillars of its brilliance.

As to moving, I have within my nature the freedom of thought and it trumps all others.

  • 7 votes
#1.50 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:39 PM EDT

President Obama has always been stellar in regard to disasters. During the operation to take out bin Laden, the president was evaluating a disaster area. He is sincerely concerned about the drought, unlike the plutocrat Robber Barons who have dissed the farmers/ranchers and rural America affected by this.

If the Chamber of Commerce or Tea Party leaders like Eric Cantor or DeMint--okay, really Limbaugh and FAUX Noise--demands that Romney/Ryan require emergency assistance to be off-set with other spending cuts, that is what these Posers would do. They have no moral compass.

  • 8 votes
#1.51 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

BrianB, why don't you read or listen to what Biden said. In context. You have it so wrong.

  • 8 votes
#1.52 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

Caesar, you obviously know nothing about Europe.

Pleae stop holding America back from the changes that must be made for it to continue to exist in the modern world.

  • 7 votes
#1.53 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:48 PM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Hey Bev!

Have you seen the pictures from WGN on the thousands of people at Navy Pier applying for the Dream Act?

Full story: http://bit.ly/MZX3fL

Just saw them on MSNBC; maravillosa, simply wonderful!!!!

I have a meeting to attend. Then I got to OFA @6pm. I know you and my other liberal friends will hold the fort down until I get back.

CWYL

4 more years

Obama/Biden




  • 9 votes
#1.54 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:50 PM EDT

you realize the Founding Fathers didnt not make amending the constitution an easy feat either. I was merely suggesting you move there, never told you had to. Fundamentalists like Obama (he said it too). I'm not against change, I am anti socialism (fail), communism (fail) and anything in between. Im sure you familar with TANSTAAFL.

  • 3 votes
#1.55 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:52 PM EDT

fielden

Caesar, you obviously know nothing about Europe.

Pleae stop holding America back from the changes that must be made for it to continue to exist in the modern world.

if by modern you mean third world, i will continue to fight on that front

  • 3 votes
#1.56 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:53 PM EDT

Concern Citizen - I agree whole heartedly with your post #1.49.

  • 2 votes
#1.57 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:59 PM EDT

Caesar

2007 thru 2008 was Capitalism fail. I could take it further back, but those were the shining years of the system. Remember the archangel Enron blasting the horn of the imminent apocalypse?

  • 6 votes
#1.58 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

I see that Sister Sarah is weighing in on Joe Biden. Seems that Sarah is recommending Hillary replace Joe on the ticket. Hmmm. Now why would she be recommending THAT?

Let's take a peek into the future, shall we?

2024: Sarah finally graduates ("socially promoted," actually) from Foreign Policy Prep School. Since the 'Obama/Biden and Hillary Clinton freight train' has at long last rolled through town, Sarah declares for the Presidency, reality TV contracts notwithstanding.

Now...knowing what you know about Sarah, do you honestly think she wants to wait until the age of 60 for a less-obstructed path to the White House?

Ah, the little wheels in Sarah's head turn...slowly, but they still in fact turn.

"If I can conjure Hillary into joining Obama in 2012....and if Hillary gets stuck like glue to Obama's record through 2016, I can give it a go eight years earlier, in 2016. Woo hoo!"

Did anyone ever chance to dream that Sarah was so dang clever?

Now, back to reality...

  • 4 votes
#1.59 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:16 PM EDT

oh you silly stray cat if only it were as simple as Enron. But if you are saying that capitalism is a failure cuz of that explain the failure of socialism or communism? TANSTAAFL. Im afraid 2007-2008 wasnt Enron, but a myriad of many factors.

    #1.60 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

    RedSoxRule

    Jeffy, really? News that hit this am is in your history book? Wow, you need to lay off the juice so early. LMAO

    Poor noid. I will just pray for you.

    the name is Jeffery, also your a idiot, Martin Luther king along with alot of southern black were republicans, i was taught that in school grammer school, a place you have never been from what you post

    • 2 votes
    #1.61 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

    Feisty - the Navy Pier sight is beautiful. Too bad those who reluctantly give President Obama credit for this have to slight him by saying he should have done it sooner. After all - Bush never took this step. The last Republican to give a damn was Reagan. One of the few things he did which I applaud!

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 4 votes
    #1.62 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

    Caesar,

    Free lunch? You hide behind the witlessness of shorthand? Begone, your shallowness though vast knows no depth.

    • 3 votes
    #1.63 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

    give it a rest garfield. you want me to pay for your lunch. witlessness of short hand, work smarter not harder. or in your case work period

      #1.64 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

      Army, Did you get "a thrill up your leg" when you "saw her profile"?

        #1.65 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:39 AM EDT

        I lived in Denmark for a couple of years. The people brag about their 'free' medical services and college, and then they complain about their taxes being so high. Well, you get what you pay for, and it isn't much. What's worse is that they do pay for it. When I moved to a new city I had to register into the commune, (yes, that's what they call it), and they gave me a list of doctors. I picked one off the list and that was that. The doctor didn't have to do a good job or anything - he was my doctor. He got paid the same either way. Most do not care. My roommate had problems and they couldn't fix it. It turns out it was an easy fix he didn't get until he returned to the good old USA. Oh, and Europe with their socialism is sure having a harder time getting out of this hole than we are, even with our obama-economics. Imagine if Romney or Cain had been president for the last 4 years - we'd be sitting much better off.

          #1.66 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:09 PM EDT
          Reply

          has it worn off enough to flip it to Romney?

          nope.

          • 15 votes
          #2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

          has it worn off enough to flip it to Romney?

          That could well be. A recent poll says that Republicans are more enthusiastic about this election, than Democrats are; and that, more Democrats will "sit out" this election than will Republicans.

          Like I've been saying for a while now; this election isn't going to be the "walk in the park" that Obama's followers believe it will be.

          It's up for grabs, and it's going to be close.

          • 6 votes
          #2.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

          ZMan - I think the selection of Paul Ryan will have most moderate Republicans "sitting out" this election or holding their noses and voting for Obama. Intelligent moderates (and there are a few left in the GOP - not many) won't pull the lever for a radical like Ryan!

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 12 votes
          #2.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

          Let's not forget the Libertarian Republicans who will write in Ron Paul or vote for Gary Johnson. Anybody but Romney.

          • 8 votes
          #2.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

          lets not forget the Non Liberal Democrats that will vote for Romney over the Marxist Obama. Amy i can say stupid things like you too.

          • 4 votes
          #2.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:51 PM EDT

          Did you hear that, Libertarians? A Republican just called your candidates stupid.

          • 8 votes
          #2.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:03 PM EDT

          Caesar - again with the stupid "Marxist" comment. Don't you know how utterly ignorant that proves you are? Grow up!

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 8 votes
          #2.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

          Zman - you seem to forget that romney has a big problem in the south, bubba and the SBC won't go vote for a Mormon - I know this is true, I've lived in bubbaland all my life. The coffee shop in our little town is abuz about it, they are fretful but know it won't matter much if they leave it blank due to Tennessee being so commie red, was not always so, hope it won't always be but only time will tell.

          • 8 votes
          #2.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

          Caesar Augustus-

          the Marxist Obama

          Sold your soul to the nattering class with that comment. What you actually hate is that the Democrats have occupied the Center and now you are left with defending the far Right. My sympathies.

          • 7 votes
          #2.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

          Zogby just released that for the first time Gov. Romney's approval with the young voters has exceeded 40%. Oh ever so slowly the wave is coming. Obama had 80% of this voting block in 2008 but as their eyes have opened and felt the despair of hope and change, they are leaving socialism and going back to good ole capitalism.

          • 4 votes
          #2.9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:17 PM EDT

          poor kitty. There is nothing Center with Obama. I dont defend the neo cons either black cat, but yes I think Obama is on par with Chavez. as for selling souls, only shoes

          • 6 votes
          #2.10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:19 PM EDT

          President Obama has always been stellar in regard to disasters. During the operation to take out bin Laden, the president was evaluating a disaster area. He is sincerely concerned about the drought, unlike the plutocrat Robber Barons who have dissed the farmers/ranchers and rural America affected by this.

          If the Chamber of Commerce or Tea Party leaders like Eric Cantor or DeMint--okay, really Limbaugh and FAUX Noise--demands that Romney/Ryan require emergency assistance to be off-set with other spending cuts, that is what these Posers would do. They have no moral compass.

          Rural America, there is NO interest in your guns and there is no War on Religion. The NRA gun sellers and the rightwing strategist who love wedge issues and culture was lie to you. It is the Dems who are trying to keep Post Offices in your communities and other important services. Vote your best interests, reelect the president and give him a congress that will govern with him.

          • 4 votes
          #2.11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

          Uh, TP, during the raid to take out bin Ladin, Obama was playing golf. Just ask Chuck Todd- he was out on the links with him. Reporters said they 'should have known' something was up because he only played 9holes.

          Of course, it was raining, so there is that.

          Gallup reported the biggest fall-off in young voter enthusiasm since they started measuring- and I know why. I was in their shoes, once upon a time.

          After the Nixon resignation, and what Ford called our "long, national nightmare", I was an enthusiastic Carter supporter. Knocked on doors, changed some minds. Stuffed envelopes, made phone calls- did all the stuff the kids did last time out.

          Got hit with the same dose of cold, hard, reality, too.

          So, four years later, I did all the same things- for Ronald Reagan. So did a lot of my peers.

          Same thing is happening this time.

          • 1 vote
          #2.12 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:50 PM EDT

          Caesar

          as for selling souls, only shoes

          So, you are a shoe salesman ... all work is noble, good for you.

          • 4 votes
          #2.13 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:50 PM EDT

          Uh, TP, during the raid to take out bin Ladin, Obama was playing golf.

          No, he wasn't. He watched live in the situation room. There are countless interviews proving this.

          • 5 votes
          #2.14 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

          he was in the situation room watching but was that as Bin Laden was being brought down or was this post/clearing the compound?

          • 1 vote
          #2.15 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

          Here's the pertinent part of the story

          Come Sunday, Obama headed for the Andrews Air Force Base golf course, as he does on many weekends when the weather is nice. But he only played nine holes, instead of his customary 18, leaving after about three hours. The reporters who accompany him on public outings didn't think anything was amiss and thought the chilly, rainy weather played into the president's decision to leave several hours earlier than usual.

          From that well known, "right wing" site

          http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42874398/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/t/obamas-golf-shoes-clue-bin-laden-raid/

          Ah, the Internet!  Friend to those who need to debunk cult members' lies about their idol.

          • 1 vote
          #2.16 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

          Geronimo was the code-word the SEALs spoke after they killed him. He was watching live.

          Come Sunday, Obama headed for the Andrews Air Force Base golf course, as he does on many weekends when the weather is nice. But he only played nine holes, instead of his customary 18, leaving after about three hours. The reporters who accompany him on public outings didn't think anything was amiss and thought the chilly, rainy weather played into the president's decision to leave several hours earlier than usual.

          And you gathered "Obama was playing golf during the bin Laden raid" how? Are you illiterate?

          • 4 votes
          #2.17 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

          Not at all. Simply truthful.

          Obama was NOT visiting areas devastated by natural disasters during the raid- as TP categorically stated.

          He was on the links. Deal with the facts, not the fantasy.

          • 2 votes
          #2.18 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

          He was on the links. Deal with the facts, not the fantasy.

          You have yet to prove any "facts". You have proven he was playing golf on the day OBL was killed, that's all. I'm sure all those pictures in the situation room were doctored. I'm sure he just went off and lied when he said watching the operation was "the longest forty minutes of his life". It's all one big conspiracy but thankfully you know the truth.

          The president and his national security team, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Vice President Joe Biden, sat in a conference room just off the Situation Room that was filled with tension, and watched the operation in real time.

          • 4 votes
          #2.19 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:15 PM EDT

          no joe, no bo, nj

          Here's the pertinent part of the story

          I, and I will probably be damned for this, find you to be quite bright. It would behove you to marry your brightness to pertinence.

          • 4 votes
          #2.20 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

          Xabre: no jo likes to take a loose group of things that remotely happened and connect them into a HUGE conspiracy theory. She considers herself to be brilliant.

          But she cannot find anyone that agrees with her.

          • 6 votes
          #2.21 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:24 PM EDT

          I don't know what they were watching, but it sure as heck wasn't the raid as it occurred

          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8493391/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Blackout-during-raid-on-bin-Laden-compound.html

          There is also a PBS link out there. It was all over the news at the time.

          Liberals seem to depend on faulty memories-but the Internet sort of knocks that hope into the proverbial cocked hat.

          • 3 votes
          #2.22 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

          Liberals seem to depend on faulty memories-but the Internet sort of knocks that hope into the proverbial cocked hat.

          Yes, because we all know everything on the internet is true. I suggest you seek help.

          • 3 votes
          #2.23 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

          You have yet to prove any "facts".

          Not sure if you're familiar with old Snookie-Joe, but she has never met a lie she won't spin!

          Yesterday she was on the "Paul Ryan never accepted MediCare" crap until she got thoroughly spanked!

          • 3 votes
          #2.24 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

          no joe, no bo, nj -- The president kept his schedule during the span of time before he would learn the outcome of the operation -- So as not to tip anyone off. He went to a disaster area as well as other things in his schedule including golf -- This was covered in Brian Williams report. But of course you LIE and try to make it seem all he did was play golf. That is the POS you are.

          You are confused with Dubya.

          • 4 votes
          #2.25 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

          As usual, NoJoe didn't even read her own link on this one. And purposely left out the, ummm, "pertinent" sentence that comes right after the excerpt she did post:

          "Come Sunday, Obama headed for the Andrews Air Force Base golf course, as he does on many weekends when the weather is nice. But he only played nine holes, instead of his customary 18, leaving after about three hours. The reporters who accompany him on public outings didn't think anything was amiss and thought the chilly, rainy weather played into the president's decision to leave several hours earlier than usual.

          What they didn't know was that Obama was heading back for that final meeting on the bin Laden operation."

          Of course, if you look at the Situation Room photos carefully, you'll see NoJoe herself sitting there. In real time. That's how she knows exactly what happened that day better than the rest of us.

          • 4 votes
          #2.26 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:33 PM EDT

          Seeking, They would have to 'hold their noses ' to vote for Obama.

            #2.27 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

            Black Cat, Phil Knight sells shoes too. It's made him a multi-millionaire.

            Right now I make tacos. I don't actually make them; I just stuff them with meat lettuce and cheese. I am also teaching at a University and earning my Ph.D. so I can be a professor.

            There is nothing wrong with selling shoes. It means he knows how to work hard. I wish more of you liberals start realizing that selling shoes is better than taking government handouts.

              #2.28 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:14 PM EDT
              Reply

              The people in Iowa are pretty sharp. They can usually tell when they are being told lies or not being told everything. That's why they have not supported the Romney candidacy.

              I wouldn't be surprised to find that President Obama wins Iowa again.

              • 14 votes
              Reply#3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

              If you didn't see Chuck Todd destroy Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad today over Welfare work requirement watch the video.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-51rmmzNAWs

              • 11 votes
              Reply#4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

              Great video - Just love watching politicians come out scratching and seething when they are backed into a self-created corner. Does he kiss his wife with that mouth full of bull @!$%#?

              • 12 votes
              #4.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:48 PM EDT
              Reply

              Breaking news:

              (CNN) - A Pennsylvania judge on Wednesday decided not to restrict a controversial voter ID law from going into place.

              The law, which requires voters to present a state issued photo ID, has been
              met with fierce opposition by those who claim that the law discriminates against
              minorities.

              http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/15/pennsylvania-judge-upholds-voter-id-law/comment-page-3/

              One small step for the GOP. One giant leap backwards for American democracy.

              • 20 votes
              #5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

              Check out the pdf of the Pennsylvania 6 point stipulation as they prepare for their "defense" of voter ID laws. Note that even they specify that there is no voter fraud. It can be found @ http ://bradblog. com/Docs/PA_ApplewhiteStipulation_NoInPersonVoterFraud_071212.pdf

              See that the State of Pennsylvania also specifies that the AG Kelly (appointed by Gov. Corbett) will not testify.

              David Burgess, deputy secretary for planning and service delivery at Pennsylvania’s Department of State, testified in state court in Harrisburg that the voter ID law may affect as many as 1,500,000 people in Pennsylvania. As of 2008 there were only 8,755,000 registered voters in PA total (source: http ://www .portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/voter_registration_statistics/12725 )

              So there you go, spend millions in taxpayer money for NO official reason and potentially impact voters that equal almost 20% of PA's electorate. At the very best this is true waste of taxpayer dollars. At the worst it is a deliberate attempt to disenfranchise certain voters AND a waste of taxpayer dollars.

              • 15 votes
              #5.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

              75% of voters support the basic ID requirement, to ensure fair elections...

              Democrats apparently make no bones about supporting election fraud.

              • 12 votes
              #5.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

              So there you go, spend millions in taxpayer money for NO official reason and potentially impact voters that equal almost 20% of PA's electorate. At the very best this is true waste of taxpayer dollars. At the worst it is a deliberate attempt to disenfranchise certain voters AND a waste of taxpayer dollars.

              But is supported by 75% of the electorate. Maybe its opposed by the 20% - 25% who can't be bothered to get an id because they might have to make an effort and get off the couch.

              • 8 votes
              #5.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

              What evidence of voter fraud do you have that can be addressed by voter ID Bob in VA?

              And while you are looking, how about reading the non-partisan Brennen study on voter fraud @ brennancenter.org/content/resource/policy_brief_on_the_truth_about_voter_fraud/

              WHY should we waste millions of tax payer dollars on a non-problem?

              • 13 votes
              #5.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

              Wow, Bob - if 75% of voter support the basic ID requirement and Democrats don't - that means you guys should win in a landslide!

              I don't know where you find your facts but you were able to contradict yourself in two sentences.

              • 17 votes
              #5.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

              Alan, NJ - If Pennsylvania inappropriately disenfranches just ONE voter then it will have "legally" done more damage to the election process than it admits ever was caused by voter fraud.

              • 13 votes
              #5.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

              Bob in Virginia-5210392

              75% of voters support the basic ID requirement, to ensure fair elections...

              And this from a minion chanting Individual Rights which means that the majority should have no power over the minority.

              • 12 votes
              #5.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:54 PM EDT

              You want to see one of the very rare verifiable cases of voter fraud close up? Take a look at homeless Mitt hitchhiking all the way from Utah to vote for Scott Brown in Massachusetts. But then I guess that was so 2010 that it doesn't count. Is Mitt, the voter fraud, a sleeper agent for ACORN?

              Bain/Pain 2012

              • 14 votes
              #5.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

              Bob in VA-

              Democrats apparently make no bones about supporting election fraud

              How can you support something that doesn't exist?

              75% of voters support the basic ID requirement, to ensure fair elections

              Sure, "basic" requirements - like the veteran in Ohio who wasn't allowed to vote because his driver's license had expired? Apparently after it expired he was no longer who he used to be.....

              Most of these laws go beyond requiring basic IDs - they reduce or restrict voter registration, early voting, and absentee ballots. How does that address voter fraud?

              Admit the truth, the ultimate goal is "voter suppression". In PA they even admitted the goal was to win the election for Romney.

              • 15 votes
              #5.9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

              Matthew -2771918: "WHY should we waste millions of tax payer dollars on a non-problem?"

              Exactly, Matthew. WHY is it that Republicans are always 100% opposed to wasteful government spending of their hard-earned taxpayer dollars.....right up until it's something that benefits THEM?

              Bob VA - Do you have any idea how the PA law is actually set up? Do you know the exact forms of ID that are now going to be required? Did you follow the testimony in this case every day? Did you read ANY of the arguments presented by both sides? Are you even remotely aware how irrelevant your comment about the % of people who support this in some poll is to the facts of the case?

              • 18 votes
              #5.10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

              I'm still waiting for these "Voter ID" laws to address absentee ballots, a significant (if not the main) contributor to what little cases of voter fraud there are. I mean we're spending wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on laws which Pennsylvania admits, addresses no problem and provides no solution. To quote Jon Stewart: "Next up, leash laws for unicorns!".

              • 12 votes
              #5.11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

              Bob in Virginia-5210392

              75% of voters support the basic ID requirement, to ensure fair elections...

              And prior to the civil war, the majority of people in the Congress thought that slavery should be allowed.

              The ability to vote as a citizen is supposed to be a right. ID laws, as enacted restrict that right.

              While I think it is important that only citizens vote, the restrictions put in place in some states appear to be putting a great burden on some people. They also appear to be affecting minorities, and young voters more than others. Since those groups have a tendency to vote Democratic, it appears the intention is to affect the outcome of this election.

              The long term effects of these laws will be corrected as voters will have time to comply. However, the short term effect on this election make me very cynical.

              • 12 votes
              #5.12 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:10 PM EDT

              Matthew -- You're correct. A COLOSSAL waste of money. Many investigations have proven this to be the case.

              Nice posts.

              • 10 votes
              #5.13 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

              dirp

              The ability to vote as a citizen is supposed to be a right. ID laws, as enacted restrict that right...

              Hey dirp...

              Nobody is trying to prevent US citizens from exercising their right to vote... but what is wrong with proving your citizenship in order to exercise that right to vote?

              Simple question... what is wrong with proving your citizenship when you want to excercize rights that are reserved for citizens?

              (checking out the radar... no clown noses in sight!)

              • 7 votes
              #5.14 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

              The facts are the facts, Don't_carry_it_all.

              But thank you.

              • 5 votes
              #5.15 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

              Nobody is trying to prevent US citizens from exercising their right to vote... but what is wrong with proving your citizenship in order to exercise that right to vote?

              But then when you deem certain types of ID as 'invalid' to discriminate against certain demographics (funny how all these Voter ID laws are coming out of swing states with GOP legislatures) that is not only wrong, that's tyrannical.

              • 7 votes
              #5.16 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

              So to all the posters who dismiss the fact that 75% of the electorate is for this law. Why do you always quote positive polls on policies you favor like the AJA but dismiss them when they do not support your position.

              And I always love the reference back to the majority supporting slavery.

              Didn't John Roberts state that he had to look for a reason to uphold Obamacare because elections have consequences. The judge in this case states the same. The law is legal it is not for him to declare whether it is a good or bad law.

              • 6 votes
              #5.17 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

              You didn't answer my queston Xabre...

              WHAT IS WRONG WITH PROVING CITIZENSHIP WHEN YOU TRY TO EXERCIZE RIGHTS THAT ARE RESERVED FOR CITIZENS?

              • 7 votes
              #5.18 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

              So to all the posters who dismiss the fact that 75% of the electorate is for this law.

              Because I look at the fact that the Founding Fathers didn't care what the majority wanted. They knew that making laws based off what the majority wanted was dangerous.

              WHAT IS WRONG WITH PROVING CITIZENSHIP WHEN YOU TRY TO EXERCIZE RIGHTS THAT ARE RESERVED FOR CITIZENS?

              Asked and answered. You clearly didn't read my post. You also clearly don't grasp the fact that most instances of voter fraud (although the total number is low) is done on absentee ballots by felons whose rights to vote are restricted. What's "proving you're a citizen" going to help with this? Oh wait, Pennsylvania admitted their law won't.

              • 7 votes
              #5.19 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

              Because I look at the fact that the Founding Fathers didn't care what the majority wanted. They knew that making laws based off what the majority wanted was dangerous.

              My, my, my...aren't the people just too dumb to know what's good for them. I don't care what party says this..you are an elitist.

              • 7 votes
              #5.20 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

              Sick, the voter IDs can be construed to be a "poll tax." Even if the State offers an ID for "free" there is still the cost associated with getting the specific documents required, taking time off from work to get to the location to get the ID, and the cost of the transportation associated with getting there.

              The issue with the poor being impacted is that a lot of them are day laborers and they lose wages while standing in line for the hours that the motor licensing place takes to get the ID. Depending on the employer, it may also cost the person their job. There is no state or federal protection for taking time off during regular working hours to get the ID. This is that wonderful economic concept of "opportunity costs."

              Further, depending on the State (Texas for example) some of these locations are open only one day a week and are as much as 100 miles (one-way) from rural populations.

              • 9 votes
              #5.21 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

              A sad day for our state, JoAnne---especially given the damning statements by the GOP on the true motive for the law and the lack of evidence of voter fraud.

              • 13 votes
              #5.22 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:27 PM EDT

              Alan, NJ - Xabre is correct. Read the Federalist Papers where it refers to the "tyranny of the majority."

              These voter ID laws basically echo Jim Crow voting laws.

              • 10 votes
              #5.23 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

              My, my, my...aren't the people just too dumb to know what's good for them. I don't care what party says this..you are an elitist.

              And it appears we're through having any sort of intelligent debate.

              • 7 votes
              #5.24 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

              Xabre

              that is not only wrong, that's tyrannical

              It is the far Right tyranny of the unfettered individual that Ayn Rand baked and called American pie and Ryan devoured all of it. My gain is your loss and the more I gain the more losers I leave in my path be they worthy or not. The economic road map of Enron.

              • 10 votes
              #5.25 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

              When I first registered to vote I had to provide my birth certificate, or some other document such as naturalization paper, to even register. That is on file at the registrar's office. When I vote I sign the log and vote. If I am ineligible than they could catch it at the registrar's office. For those who are playing shenanigans with the so called voter fraud because of lack of Id all we have to do is take those folks down and help them get an ID so they can vote. The tests and poll taxes of the past have been outlawed. Now they are trying other tactics to keep EVERYBODY from voting and only allowing those they want to vote.

              Over and again it is proven that there is so little voter fraud, in most cases non-existant, that the effect on the outcome of an election is nil.

              • 8 votes
              #5.26 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

              And it appears we're through having any sort of intelligent debate.

              NP. Take your ball and run home. BTW Does the tyranny of the majority apply to Obamacare, which is still not supported by a majority, or is that the tyranny of the minority who know whats best for the great unwashed?

              Either way you'll have a hard time convincing the majority that this is an unreasonable burden.

              Those whose ID is challenged will be allowed to cast provisional ballots and prove later they are who they say.

              Acceptable photo ID includes a driver’s license or a PennDOT ID for non-drivers, U.S. government or military ID, identification from municipal governments, universities and nursing homes.

              • 5 votes
              #5.27 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

              NP. Take your ball and run home. BTW Does the tyranny of the majority apply to Obamacare, which is still not supported by a majority, or is that the tyranny of the minority who know whats best for the great unwashed?

              First off, "not supported by the majority" is a vastly controversial statement in itself. I have yet to see any convincing evidence that the majority is even against it. Secondly, every detractor I have seen spews misinformation, no doubt indoctrinated by that entertainment channel trying to pass themselves off as "news". Thirdly, majority opinion has no bearing on constitutionality, so I'm nipping that thought in the bud. Fourthly, if the majority is so much against it, surely it will be repealed.

              Either way you'll have a hard time convincing the majority that this is an unreasonable burden.

              Considering the misinformation the "majority" seems rather saturated with, I'd have to agree.

              But on point: I wouldn't be surprised to see Voter ID arise in the SCOTUS some time in the future. Limiting the IDs is too similar to a "poll tax", and the laws being implemented address a miniscule problem at best, present little to no solution to said problem, and cause too much collateral damage. But hey, if those votes being suppressed are for the other guy, why should I care, right?

              • 7 votes
              #5.28 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

              Xabre

              WHAT IS WRONG WITH PROVING CITIZENSHIP WHEN YOU TRY TO EXERCIZE RIGHTS THAT ARE RESERVED FOR CITIZENS?

              Asked and answered.

              -----------------------------------------

              WRONG! You most certainly did NOT answer MY question!

              You talked all around the issue and regurgitated the same comments that you made before... but you never answered my question.

              That's ok... obviously you don't have an answer. (typical liberal)

              • 7 votes
              #5.29 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

              That's ok... obviously you don't have an answer. (typical liberal)

              No answer seems to satisfy you. As with your last comment it appears any sort of intelligent debate is above you. Therefore why should I waste my time attempting to derive a solution (when I already have) just to fit your predetermined expectations of an answer? I think I'll pass.

              • 8 votes
              #5.30 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

              Take a look at homeless Mitt hitchhiking all the way from Utah to vote for Scott Brown in Massachusetts.

              How many home states does Mitt have anyway? Utah, Michigan, California, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and the Cayman Islands. That's a lot of addresses to keep straight!

              • 11 votes
              #5.31 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:44 PM EDT
              alexandr1Deleted

              Xabre is another Sigma Cum Laude with the "I'm smarter than thou pseudo intellect". Is that coherent for you or should I write it in greek so you'll understand it.

              • 2 votes
              #5.33 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

              Would you please post those pages for all of us to read?

              Speaking of trolling... lol

              I'll take a pass - you're not going to be around long enough to read them! ☺

              • 15 votes
              #5.34 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:57 PM EDT

              with the "I'm smarter than thou pseudo intellect".

              Ironic coming from someone who thinks the US Economic System is capitalist.

              • 5 votes
              #5.35 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

              Xabre: I don't have an issue with requiring proof of citizenship, but why the restriction on specific types of ID ?

              That is where these laws break down.

              In many states, the difficulty in getting the specified ID and costs associated tend to convert these requirements into, for many voters, effectively poll taxes. Also, many of the state legislators have been pretty blatant in their explanation for the laws, they want to restrict Democrats from voting.

              • 8 votes
              #5.36 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

              ITM,

              How they hanging Sarge

              • 10 votes
              #5.37 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

              Amy B. Portland, ME

              How many home states does Mitt have anyway? Utah, Michigan, California, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and the Cayman Islands. That's a lot of addresses to keep straight!

              MYTH Romney will never say.

              • 6 votes
              #5.38 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

              Sick, you proved citizenship when you registered to vote. If your registration was improper, it was caught then as is clearly evidenced by the cases associated with registration fraud. Note that there were people convicted of registration fraud. This shows our laws already work.

              • 10 votes
              #5.39 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

              Xabre

              with the "I'm smarter than thou pseudo intellect".

              Ironic coming from someone who thinks the US Economic System is capitalist.

              Da Xabre, keep it coming comrade.

              • 2 votes
              #5.40 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:06 PM EDT
              Comment author avatarSeekingSanityExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Feisty - I see the far right went dumpster diving to come up with alexandr1. She/he has perhaps the most limited and ignorant vocabulary of all of the right wing mental midgets. Oh well - the GOP DOES have a corner on market for the low intelligent voters!

              Obama/Biden 2012

              • 7 votes
              #5.41 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

              South Carolina is providing not only the ID for free, they are also providing transportation to attain said ID. One has to wonder, if they have to be taken to get the ID, how in the hell do they get to the polls?

              • 4 votes
              #5.42 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

              Steeler fan and Joann, don't fret too much about the law, Tennessee's went into effect last spring, I actually hold a seat on our county election commission, so far it has not proved to be a problem, much to the heartach of the republicans, we democrats have proven to be forceful in making sure all our voters know about the law, know how to get the correct id, have a ride to get the correct id and often advise folks to vote absentee whenever possible ( a great tool for the elderly vote, most want to do this anyway). In otherwords - we used their ploy agains them, worked great in a local election in early august, now they are not so hot to trot about it anymore because it did not directly benefit them one bit. Just use it to get out your vote and that will beat the repugnants everytime. As far as voter fraud goes I think it is and always has been pretty slim, just an excues by some to complain about the results. If someone votes illegally you need to be talking to your local election commission, it is their job and they are the people who hire the poll workers - it begins at a local level, not at a state or national level.

              • 9 votes
              #5.43 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:16 PM EDT

              JoAnne in PA

              Breaking news:

              (CNN) - A Pennsylvania judge on Wednesday decided not to restrict a controversial voter ID law from going into place.

              Yup, JoAnne, these are the morons who trample the Constitution for real.


              14th Amendment

              Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


              The 15th amendment protects the rights of Americans to vote in elections to elect their leaders. Specifically, it confirms the right to vote and lists conditions that are illegal to deny another person the right to vote. Any American cannot be denied the right to vote, based on race, color or being a former slave


              19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Women's Right to Vote

              The Civil Rights Act of 1964

              A landmark piece of legislation in the United States that outlawed major forms of discrimination against racial, ethnic, national and religious minorities and women It ended unequal application of voter registration requirements and racial segregation in schools, at the workplace and by facilities that served the general public ("public accommodations").

              =======================================================

              source Wikipedia

              Cheat to win. That was the plan. Truly sad on these FAUX jingoist who allow such chicanery to go on.

              • 5 votes
              #5.44 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

              Union Baby -

              Thanks, I'm counting on the GOTV effort to get this thing going. The other thing I'm counting on is that if the "trial run" they did back during the primaries was any indication, the poll workers who are supposed to be checking ID's are going to be just as confused as everyone else - if they even bother asking to see it at all. I live in a predominantly Republican suburb of Philadelphia and when I went to vote back in April, nobody asked me like they were supposed to, and when I got out my license and slapped it down on the table for them anyway, they barely glanced at it.

              Oh, and by the way - there goes the Amish vote, who tend to vote Republican themselves. In order to request a non-photo ID for religious reasons, they now have to fill out a very personal 18-question form, whereas before all they needed was a letter from their bishop:

              "The first item on PennDOT's form asks applicants to "describe your religion." It is followed by more questions that devout followers might struggle to answer, and some that inquire about the lives of family members.

              How many members are there of your religion?

              How many congregations?

              What's the process by which you came to the religion?

              What religious practices do you observe?

              Do other family members hold the same religious beliefs?

              Submitting that form, once notarized, is not enough. Applicants must fill out another form.

              If they lack proof of identification, yet another form must be completed before a nonphoto ID is issued. "

              http://www.necn.com/04/09/12/Pa-Voter-ID-law-a-problem-for-Amish-othe/landing_politics.html?&apID=abbe58a28723442ba33ff9f1dd25be8c

              Can you imagine the uproar if any other religious group in this country was asked to jump through similar hoops?

              • 6 votes
              #5.45 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

              Talk to the Hand

              Let's just say for 'argument's sake' that I lost my birth certificate or it burned in a fire. And I was born in California. But I am retired and reside in Missouri. The state of Missouri isn't going to pay the state of CA the $57 for a certified record of birth. They might provide a Missouri birth certificate; but that's not going to help me. Once again, like the 9th Ward in New Orleans, the truly poor are being shut out of a basic, fundamental RIGHT guaranteed to them by the constitution.

              The crazy logic that the poor will just @!$%# gold bricks and pay for what they need is unreasonable. But it seems some don't have a problem with the idea of fairness or compassion. As Barbara Bush said,...whatever situation they are given is surely an improvement over what they had.

              Don't you just LOVE those compassionate conservatives? I know I DO!

              PS. Are you FOR the Constitution? Or against it?

              By the way, LOTS of people volunteer to drive others to the polls.

              • 7 votes
              #5.46 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:49 PM EDT

              The state of Missouri isn't going to pay the state of CA the $57 for a certified record of birth

              why not say 1 million dollars for the the bc? Since i dont know any county in california that charges that much for one. When are you guys going to stop thinking that someone should pay everything for you. if it burns in a fire, you have insurance. what if the world blows up too? TANSTAAFL. period, ever. you idiots live in carebear land

              • 1 vote
              #5.47 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

              "Attorney Marian Schneider got Burgess to count up all of the discrepancies, voter by voter, without context.

              “Adding these three numbers together,” she said, “the 758,000 that you publicly disclosed don't match, plus the 130,000 that did not actually match, plus the 574,000 whose ID is expired and won't be valid for voting today—adding all three of those together equals 1,463,758?”

              “That's correct,” said Burgess.

              “So your analysis shows that there's 1,463,758 voters who don't have an ID that is valid for voting, is that right?”

              “Today, correct,” said Burgess, agreeing to a higher possible number of disqualified voters than the state has ever contemplated."

              (source:

              http ://www .slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/08/pennsylvania_officials_struggle_to_explain_how_the_state_s_new_voter_id_law_would_actually_work_.html )

              • 2 votes
              #5.48 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:01 PM EDT

              PS. I PROVED my right to vote when I registered to vote,...I shouldn't have to prove it each and every time I vote. Talk about WASTE! Old people don't keep their driver's licenses active when they no longer drive.

              sheesh.

              • 6 votes
              #5.49 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

              This issue has already been settled

              http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/washington/28cnd-scotus.html

              Six to three- with Stevens writing the opinion for the Court.

              Who is "wasting taxpayer money" fighting this? Seems to me that, since the law is settled, it is the people who seem to have some kind of vested interest in perpetrating fraud who are wasting taxpayer money.

              That would be the liberals.

              • 3 votes
              #5.50 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

              First one I looked at:

              Processing Fees:
              Express/Emergency Orders
              ship by an overnight courier
              vary from $25-$69.
              Regular Orders ship by US
              Mail and vary from $11-$36.
              Plus our service fee of $49.

              http://www.usbirthcertificate.com/google/?gclid=CKa7reKs6rECFUG9tgodUA8ABQ

              My apologies, the last time I had to do it, I needed it rushed and had to pay the Express Service fee. Since there is SO little calendar left,...many others will have to do so, as well!

              http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/dca/dcabirth.htm

              • 3 votes
              #5.51 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:20 PM EDT

              no joe, no bo, nj

              This issue has already been settled

              Nominees to high courts pay lip service to settled issues. No issues are settled, we are an evolving society.

              • 5 votes
              #5.52 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

              Clara i proved i can drive when i passed the test, still have to show my drivers license if i get pulled over. want to try again?

              • 2 votes
              #5.53 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:26 PM EDT

              Caesar:

              Many people do not have fire insurance. Why would you assume that everyone does? Oh, that's right, because you don't have a clue about the little guy - just like Mitt.

              • 3 votes
              #5.54 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

              what is stopping you from getting insurance. if you own a home (assuming mortgage) you have to have insurance. You drive, usually insurance (or the owner of vehicle is insured). Medical insurance won't cover lost birth certificates.

                #5.55 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

                NoJoe: "it is the people who seem to have some kind of vested interest in perpetrating fraud who are wasting taxpayer money."

                And speaking of vested interests:

                "House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R-Allegheny) suggested that the House’s end game in passing the Voter ID law was to benefit the GOP politically.

                “We are focused on making sure that we meet our obligations that we’ve talked about for years,” said Turzai in a speech to committee members Saturday. He mentioned the law among a laundry list of accomplishments made by the GOP-run legislature.

                “Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation – abortion facility regulations – in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.”

                http://www.politicspa.com/turzai-voter-id-law-means-romney-can-win-pa/37153/

                • 3 votes
                #5.56 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

                To Yellowdog-Mark D, who writes:

                Concern Citizen - I agree whole heartedly with your post #1.49.

                Thank you Yellodog, I tried not to pick any side on that one, I hope you don't get bombarded for agreeing with me.

                  #5.57 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:50 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  I like the idea that the presidency can be won by different routes. Everybody's got a strategy on how to get there - Obama touts wind energy and Romney offers a budget-buster for VP.

                  Look for the interview Ryan did on Fox to be parodied soon on SNL along with Palin's interview with Couric - not sure which one of them was less articulate. I'm sure Romney was looking for a BOLD pick in Ryan, but he really stumbled coming out of the gate.

                  • 13 votes
                  Reply#6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

                  Ursula - Want to compare Biden with Ryan? I CAN'T WAIT for the VP debates!

                  • 6 votes
                  #6.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

                  Any day and twice on Sunday...

                  • 11 votes
                  #6.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

                  It is simple, Biden is of the people, RandRyan is of the corporation. As FOX would say, you decide.

                  • 13 votes
                  #6.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

                  Ursula - Want to compare Biden with Ryan? I CAN'T WAIT for the VP debates!

                  You want to waste time comparing the VP candidates? When your presidential candidate is a joke, doesn't have a stable platform, and cherry-picks questions to answer, you care about comparing the VPs? I'm giggling.

                  • 5 votes
                  #6.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

                  Hey Ursula... is that picture from when you were at Woodstock?

                  • 5 votes
                  #6.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

                  SickOfTheBickering

                  Hey Ursala... is that picture from when you were at Woodstock?

                  Hey Sick, is that a picture of you in Serbia, Croatia or Bosnia?

                  • 9 votes
                  #6.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

                  hey cat...

                  that's a picture of me in your backyard! better watch out - we are everywhere!

                  ;-)

                  • 6 votes
                  #6.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

                  Blackcat is that you Slobodan?

                  • 4 votes
                  #6.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

                  If she was at woodstock then bless her heart and good for her! sing it sister, sing it!

                  • 3 votes
                  #6.9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

                  Ursula, talk about someone who clearly has no clue what she's talking about again. Ryan isn't articulate? Really? You lost all and any credibility you may have had.

                  • 2 votes
                  #6.10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:37 PM EDT

                  SickOfTheBickering

                  hey cat...

                  that's a picture of me in your backyard! better watch out - we are everywhere!

                  And I thought Obama took away all of you bullets, oh that's right just a myth. Cat in boots is shaking in fear. Show my claws your clown nose dog.

                  • 3 votes
                  #6.11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

                  And I thought Obama took away all of you bullets, oh that's right just a myth. Cat in boots is shaking in fear.

                  What, no one ever said that. However he might want to, thats a different discussion but remember amend the constitution (its easy right) if you want to take guns away.

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.12 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

                  Caesar, if you choose to live in fear, you will be controlled by it. Live up to your avatar or change it for a possum.

                  • 1 vote
                  #6.13 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:26 PM EDT

                  JFK-2112 -- Ryan is more articulate compared to other Teapublicans. Once he leaves his rightwing Echo Chamber and is asked hard questions, he struggles. Like when he was asked how many years of tax returns he gave Team Romney, etc.

                  Washington (CNN) -- When Paul Ryan struggled to explain a budget-balancing timeline under Mitt Romney, he highlighted the difficulty of trying to run a substantive campaign without being too specific.

                  While Ryan's interview Tuesday with Fox News' Brit Hume was no Sarah Palin-Katie Couric moment, the Republican vice presidential candidate's discomfort in answering when Romney's proposal would balance the budget was evident.

                  Also, his plan is over-rated. Aside from the CBO and the Center for Budget Policy Priorities deeming his plan as "not serious" -- Come on, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to come up with lowering the highest income tax rate a full ten points from 35% to 25%. What kind of genius is he when his plan doesn't balance the budget for 23 years -- If that, because this is based on revenue neutral voodoo assumptions.

                  Neither Romney nor Ryan are ready for prime time. I'll bet SNL will do a skit on the 3:00 am call, and the two of them play *paper scissors rock* to see who will answer it.

                    #6.14 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:50 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    "If Obama holds the Kerry-won 2004 states, including New Hampshire..."

                    You already forgot about Wisconsin, a Kerry-won 2004 state! With Paul Ryan on the ticket and the momentum of the recall election victory, Iowa alone wont give Obama the electoral victory, even if he keeps it...

                    • 6 votes
                    Reply#7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

                    Bob, I live in Wisconsin and polls after the recall showed that around 20% of Walker voters would also vote for Obama. I can't explain it but those were the numbers. There really isn't any momentum on either side here. People are worn out from the recall. Anyway, Ryan isn't going to move the numbers here that much. Maybe 1-2% which if it's like 2000 and 2004 that would be enough for Romney to win but Obama has consistently led Romney by several points here.

                    • 6 votes
                    #7.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

                    Dan,

                    I believe that most were voters that basically did not believe in the recall process except when a Governor had been convicted of a crime.

                    • 6 votes
                    #7.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:09 PM EDT
                    Reply
                    Comment author avatarBenSneadExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    I know that Carrot Top, the Las Vegas entertainer is very happy that carrot top, the socialist wacko, has 'left the building' so to speak. He got very sick of the hecklers who though he was the Roselle, IL bats$hit crazy broad! The similarities between him and dumb fux were amazing... except for the personalities of course! We love Carrot Top the Entertainer, the other carrot top needs counseling!

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

                    Romney and Ryan did get a bounce after the Ryan selection.

                    The newest research from Nate has it as the NOV 6 factors:

                    "Obama chance of winning 70.7% Romney 29.3%"

                    "Projected Winner Obama 300.6"

                    "Projected Loser Romney 237.4"

                    However, if the election was being voted in "Now Cast" Today:

                    Totals

                    "Obama chance of winning 75.3% Romney 24.7%"

                    "Projected Winner Obama 297.6"

                    "Projected Loser Romney 240.4"

                    As far as, my projected Electoral Vote outcome totals are:

                    Electoral Vote:

                    "Projected Winner Obama 297"

                    "Projected Loser Romney 241"

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

                    "As far as, my projected Electoral Vote outcome totals are:

                    Electoral Vote: "Projected Winner Obama 297"

                    My projected November 6 results for an egotistical fool liberal who thinks he is Gallup, but is about as objective as Rachel Maddow...

                    Projected Loser "Job1" 297 incorrect election predictions...

                    • 5 votes
                    #9.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:51 PM EDT

                    In 2008, I only missed one state. So, we will see big boy.

                    • 1 vote
                    #9.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:55 PM EDT

                    Here we go folks... Its going to be a ROUT!!!!

                    Swing-State Poll: Race A Dead Heat, Ryan Bolsters Romney’s Image

                    Rep. Paul Ryan boosts Mitt Romney to a 1-point lead in a new survey of swing states.

                    The poll, from bipartisan firm Purple Strategies, combined survey of voters of Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin. The Romney-Ryan ticket leads Obama-Biden 47 percent to 46 percent overall.

                    Romney’s overall favorability has ticked up, from 41 percent a month ago to 45 percent now. But his unfavorable rating only dropped a point, from 49 percent to 48 percent. The boost for Romney may also be due to fact that President Obama’s approval rating dropped off slightly — 43 percent of swing-state voters approve of the president’s job perforance, while 51 percent disapprove. In July, the Purple Poll found a 46 approve-49 disapprove split.

                    “The Romney-Ryan ticket is fueled by an 11-point advantage among independents,” pollsters wrote in their analysis. “This represents an increase from July, when Romney held a 5-point margin over Obama among that key group.”

                    While Ryan has improved the Republican ticket within the overall swing state picture, his impact isn’t as clear in the most crucial places:

                    Romney has seen the largest gain in Ohio, a state we have seen bounce between the campaigns over the last few months. Today, the GOP ticket leads by 2 points (46% to 44%), compared to July when President Obama led the state 48% to 45%). Romney also gained ground in Virginia - today, he and Paul Ryan hold a 3- point advantage in the race (48% to 45%), while Romney trailed by 2 points in July.

                    Romney/Ryan 2012!!! Leadership for a change!!!

                    • 2 votes
                    #9.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:56 PM EDT
                    ContemptMeDeleted
                    ContemptMeDeleted
                    Reply

                    These guys crack me up saying that Obama hopes to push a message of an improved economy. A lot of people will think "What improvement?" Then it comes back to whether or not you are better off now than four years ago. And that's exactly why Obama is mostly trying to avoid the economy and instead engages in negative campaigning.

                    • 6 votes
                    #10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

                    That and the fact that campaigning is all he has EVER done, all he knows and really the only thing he is good at!

                    (eh hum... Fisty... where is that clown nose?)

                    • 7 votes
                    #10.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

                    That and the fact that campaigning is all he has EVER done, all he knows and really the only thing he is good at!

                    You know you just described Mitt Romney in a nutshell, right?

                    • 4 votes
                    #10.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

                    Returning to the un-elected GW Bush JR's policy of looting from the treasury is not an option.

                    Obama has enough mess digging out of the 8 years of that clown. Especially because of the conservative traitors in the congress/senate that are willing to tank America to try to get the criminal Romney and his boy-wonder elected.

                    We don't need anymore of your kind.

                    Obama/Biden 2012

                    • 9 votes
                    #10.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

                    Here in Silicon Valley there is hiring like crazy. Small and large businesses alike are hiring. Building starts are up and single famly homes are selling again and the sellers are getting their asking price and more for their houses. This area was one of the first to fall during the dot com bubble and seems to be the harbinger, leader in each direction as the overall economy either tanks or booms. We are heading for boom all over the nation. Elect Romney/Ryan and we'll be back to 2007 again. Being retired I don't look for jobs any more as I don't need to. I invested wisely and have plenty to augment the SSI but not everyone is in the position I am in. While wages are still lower than before people are getting and keeping decent jobs. Many of those jobs are in R and D with regard to clean energy. Once again, California leads the way in the new and exciting technology that will revelutionize how we live.

                    • 6 votes
                    #10.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

                    Xabre

                    You know you just described Mitt Romney in a nutshell, right?

                    I guess YOU could look at it that way... if you completely ignore his time running companies (and making them profitable)... or running the Olympics... or running the state of Massachusetts or (on and on and on...)

                    But then, you libs ALWAYS ignore the facts that don't support your position... so yes I guess YOU could look at it that way :-)

                    (FISTY! Gimme the nose!)

                    • 5 votes
                    #10.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:46 PM EDT

                    I guess YOU could look at it that way... if you completely ignore his time running companies like Bain... or the Olympics... or (on and on and on...)

                    You're right I forgot you said "good at campaigning". I think Mitt Romney has proven in the past few elections that he doesn't qualify. How did he get selected as the nominee again? The GOP really had nobody better?

                    • 4 votes
                    #10.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:47 PM EDT

                    "Once again, California leads the way in the new and exciting technology that will revelutionize how we live."

                    LOL...California leads the way ., alright: to bankruptcy, showing how massive government spending, and out of control crooked public employee unions, ruins the once-proud state...

                    California unemployment: 10.8% of the labor force

                    California 1 year state budget deficit: $16 billion

                    • 4 votes
                    #10.7 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:59 PM EDT

                    California unemployment: 10.8% of the labor force

                    He was talking about tech, not the entire labor force. Silicon Valley has at least two tech jobs per applicant. The problem is finding qualified candidates.

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.8 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

                    Sick, I know math is a little difficult for you but let's take your statement . . .

                    I guess YOU could look at it that way... if you completely ignore his time running companies (and making them profitable)... or running the Olympics... or running the state of Massachusetts or (on and on and on...)

                    Bain until ??? (not totally clear but he "said" he wasn't there while he was working with SLOC). Olympics, well those were in 2002. Governor until January 2007. So basically your very inept candidate has being doing nothing BUT campaigning for the past 5-1/2 years. You'd think he might have figured it by now.

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.9 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:16 PM EDT

                    Sick - I think you should talk with Pat from Boston about mitts success in MA, most of the folks there don't think he really ever lived there (hence the real problem with not showing his taxes, it won't show that he actually lived where he voted and served as governor), can't understand how he demonizes the ACA after forcing his healthcare plan on him, and tell you outright he did them a favor by being awol the last two years of his term. Research your info better honey, I'm starting to feel a little sorry for you.

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.10 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

                    Bob in VA - I have realitives who live in California and relatives who live in Virginia - those in virginia do not have near as good paying jobs as those who live in California, those in Virginia still have forclosure problems, those in California don't. Save up buddy, buy a plane ticket, see the rest of the country - it will do you good.

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:28 PM EDT
                    Comment author avatarkenvaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Unlike Feisty the moron, seeing Obama anywhere is a bit nauseating. I can only take so much of his lying BS rhetoric. But then, also unlike Feisty and Bev, I'm not a fat assed, lazy, welfare biotch. One only hopes Biden is correct and they are put in chains.

                      #10.12 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:52 PM EDT

                      Union Baby,

                      I live in California and we still have way to many foreclosures.

                      California Foreclosure Statistics:
                      Record Losses In Recent Years, Likely to Continue into the Future
                      On average, more than 500 California families have lost their homes every day since 4Q 2007, and the data show few signs of a return to the pre-crisis housing market.1 California foreclosure activity remains elevated, with more than 30,000 completed foreclosures each quarter, compared to less than 3,500 foreclosures in 3Q 2006. In addition, large numbers of California homeowners continue to fall behind in their payments.

                        #10.13 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:26 PM EDT

                        7 of the top 10 cities for car theft are in California. Sounds like a wonderful place lol.

                          #10.14 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:06 PM EDT

                          At one time it was everything you could image.

                            #10.15 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:01 AM EDT
                            Reply

                            SickOfTheBickering

                            That and the fact that campaigning is all he has EVER done, all he knows and really the only thing he is good at!

                            And other than shifting his money around what is that Romney has been doing for the past 10 years? Of all the things he is really bad at, such as ethics, running for presidential office takes gold.

                            • 7 votes
                            Reply#11 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:16 PM EDT

                            Now, BCWC---let's not forget that Romney served on corporate boards (like Marriott, which I am now boycotting) and made "a little money" giving speeches (over $300,000 being "a little" to Mitt). Of course he told some Florida voters he was unemployed---there's a real joke for you.

                            • 7 votes
                            #11.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

                            blackcatwhitecat


                            SickOfTheBickering

                            That and the fact that campaigning is all he has EVER done, all he knows and really the only thing he is good at!

                            blackcatwhitecat

                            Let's not forget the House of Republicans sitting on their greedy asses bloivating in addition to working only 9 days a month.

                            At least our President can campaign and do his job simultaneously because he is fighting for social and economic justice for the people.

                            4more years

                            Obama/Biden 2012


                            • 5 votes
                            #11.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

                            Oh yes Bev...

                            And let's not foget the Senate sitting on their greedy asses in addition to voting on NOTHING!

                            • 5 votes
                            #11.3 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:51 PM EDT

                            How much time did the House waste voting to repeal ACA thirty-some times? Yeah, they're really productive.

                            • 2 votes
                            #11.4 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:01 PM EDT

                            Anyone notice the drought in Iowa? Think it would be brought to the the notice of the Romney/Ryan campaign.

                            • 2 votes
                            #11.5 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:07 PM EDT

                            phinephancy-4252115

                            Anyone notice the drought in Iowa?

                            Its either Bush's or Obama's fault. I've lost track.

                              #11.6 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

                              Not true SOB

                              They voted on the naming of some post offices. Practically in time to watch them close. REAL productive crowd since 2010.

                              PS. Where are the JOBS? Oh, and where are the TAX RETURNS?

                                #11.7 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:16 PM EDT
                                Reply

                                Iowa has caught on that a vote for Obama is a vote to expand poverty. It is refreshing to listen to many of the first timevoters in 2008 who took a far more educated approach to their vote in 2010 and plan to continue that in the 2012 election. IOWA FOR ROMNEY/RYAN 2012

                                • 8 votes
                                Reply#12 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

                                SickOfTheBickering

                                It's in the same place as Obama's ad blaming Bush for the drought!

                                HA!

                                SOB,

                                And you can blame the Congressional Republican pimps for not voting correctly on the "Farm Bill".

                                The danger isn't just to farmers and small businesses linked to agriculture, O'Brien said. In a worst case drought scenario, lower yields lead to a decrease in a farm producer's income, which could affect the ability to pay bills and delay equipment purchases -- affecting lenders or businesses who are owed money or who manufacture and sell the equipment. For livestock producers, higher feed costs reduces the inventory of livestock and breeding stock, meaning less revenue and less money available to be spent in the community and toward the community's tax base.

                                http://www.chillicothegazette.com/article/20120815/NEWS01/208150306/Ag-Department-official-pushes-farm-bill-passage?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Frontpage

                                Robme and Ryan blow hot air!!!

                                Obama/Biden 2012 people who care

                                4 more years.

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                                Reply#13 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:38 PM EDT

                                Bev,

                                Angry much?

                                heheheh

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                                #13.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

                                SickOfTheBickering

                                Bev,

                                Angry much?

                                heheheh

                                SOB I see nothing funny.

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                                #13.2 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:39 PM EDT
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                                Obama campaign should track down a few of the folks that were in the presence of Romney gaffing away and interview them for a few good sound bites to rip him, like the ones that he said "ha I am unemployed too just like you" and "you didn't make those cookies, they seem lilke 7 Eleven cookies" and about ten others. Let average Americans tell the rest of the country what they think about him when they met him in person.

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                                Reply#14 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

                                Bigbearcatbill - I agree, better yet, let the rest of the country know how the people of MA and Boston in general feel about mitt, especially the ones who worked with, for, or close to him - it is not a pretty story up there when they put his name in the title, at least not from the working/middle class men and women we met while on vacation there the end of July, 2012.

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                                #14.1 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:31 PM EDT
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                                Americans do not like or trust Romney/Ryan, and their Stepford wives.

                                Obama/Biden 2012

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                                Reply#15 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:42 PM EDT
                                ContemptMeDeleted
                                ContemptMeDeleted

                                Romney loves and is faithful to his one wife a lot more than a huge chunk of the democrats I see out there. With exception of Newt Gingrich of course, the republicans in the federal government have a generally better sense of moral character compared to the democrats. Wouldn't it be logical to assume this extends to politics as well? The answer is yes, and I know Mitt Romney is/would be much more honest than President Obama.

                                  #15.3 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:31 PM EDT
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                                  Obama knows that corn is a crop, and Iowa has had the worst drought in 50 years. Farmers are struggling and Republicans are obstructing the Farm Bill, which includes help for them.

                                  Romney believes corn is a commodity on the stock market and speculation prices are rising.

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                                  Reply#16 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

                                  I think next year Obama will even grow some corn in his wife's garden, next to her beehive. Then he can make some moonshine to go with his honey beer.

                                    #16.1 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:26 PM EDT
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                                    If a person believes in the Bible, they can not believe in gay marriage.

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                                    Reply#17 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

                                    Amen. Don't forget it's not just a social issue either. God wants us to be happy in this life, so he gives us standards to live by which will help us achieve this happiness. The standards given to us in the Bible are for our own good. Example: sodomy was part of the cultural collapse of Ancient Greece. The Greeks would have been happier without it. So will we.

                                      #17.1 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:18 PM EDT
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                                      Here the truth about why Obama spent three days in Idaho! Too little too late!!! Its going to be a ROUT!!!!

                                      Swing-State Poll: Race A Dead Heat, Ryan Bolsters Romney’s Image

                                      Rep. Paul Ryan boosts Mitt Romney to a 1-point lead in a new survey of swing states.

                                      The poll, from bipartisan firm Purple Strategies, combined survey of voters of Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin. The Romney-Ryan ticket leads Obama-Biden 47 percent to 46 percent overall.

                                      Romney’s overall favorability has ticked up, from 41 percent a month ago to 45 percent now. But his unfavorable rating only dropped a point, from 49 percent to 48 percent. The boost for Romney may also be due to fact that President Obama’s approval rating dropped off slightly — 43 percent of swing-state voters approve of the president’s job perforance, while 51 percent disapprove. In July, the Purple Poll found a 46 approve-49 disapprove split.

                                      “The Romney-Ryan ticket is fueled by an 11-point advantage among independents,” pollsters wrote in their analysis. “This represents an increase from July, when Romney held a 5-point margin over Obama among that key group.”

                                      While Ryan has improved the Republican ticket within the overall swing state picture, his impact isn’t as clear in the most crucial places:

                                      Romney has seen the largest gain in Ohio, a state we have seen bounce between the campaigns over the last few months. Today, the GOP ticket leads by 2 points (46% to 44%), compared to July when President Obama led the state 48% to 45%). Romney also gained ground in Virginia - today, he and Paul Ryan hold a 3- point advantage in the race (48% to 45%), while Romney trailed by 2 points in July.

                                      Romney/Ryan 2012!!! Leadership for a change!!!

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                                      Reply#18 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:52 PM EDT

                                      When is obama going to talk about his economic record as POTUS?

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                                      Reply#19 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:08 PM EDT

                                      Here's your answer:

                                      He thinks he is doing well, and his advisers tell him to stay away from economic talk because they know Romney will eat him for breakfast. Thus he will avoid the economy like the plague. I do hope I'm wrong though...

                                        #19.1 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:23 PM EDT
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                                        Are all those illegals waiting in line today for their work permits going to be included in the unemployment numbers?

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                                        Reply#20 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:09 PM EDT

                                        They better not get unemployment benefits from the government. They don't now, but if Obama can change that he sure will.

                                          #20.1 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:20 PM EDT
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                                          Food stamp recipients increased from 22 million to 46 million under obama's watch. If he's re-elected will food stamp recipients increase to 68 million by 2016?

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                                          Reply#21 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:11 PM EDT

                                          July 2012, more people were put on the SS Disability payrolls than people who got jobs.

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                                          Reply#22 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:13 PM EDT

                                          314 million people in the U.S.

                                          110 million people in the U.S. receive some form of government assistance.

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                                          Reply#23 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:15 PM EDT

                                          I make less than $30,000 a year. I'm going to school full-time. I'm debt-free and government-benefit-free.

                                          AND I'M LOVIN' IT!!

                                            #23.1 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:21 PM EDT
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                                            Is America going in the right direction?

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                                            Reply#24 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:17 PM EDT

                                            The Obama enthusiasm has worn off. Even the Liberal media can't find any successes to talk about.

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                                            Reply#25 - Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:47 PM EDT
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