Romney assails Obama on coal on Ohio's mining turf

 

BEALLSVILLE, OH -- Mitt Romney accused President Obama of declaring a "war on coal" here in the heart of eastern Ohio's mining territory.

Flanked by an army of miners and their families near the border with West Virginia, the presumptive GOP nominee said Obama was being deceptive about his policies toward fossil fuel. In this energy-rich and politically important part of the state, Romney renewed his call for achieving energy independence by the end of his second term.

"This is a time for truth. If you don’t believe in coal, if you don’t believe in energy independence for America then say it," Romney said. "If you believe that the whole answer for our energy needs is wind and solar why say that.  Because I know he says that to some audiences out west. But it’s time to tell the people of America what you believe."

The Obama campaign pushed back against the charge from Romney, accusing him of ignoring his own record of pushing for tighter emissions regulations on coal power plants as Governor of Massachusetts.

“Only one candidate in this race actually has a record of finding a clean future for coal and that’s President Obama. President Obama has increased investments in the research and development of clean coal technology and employment in the mining industry hit a 15-year high in 2011," Obama spokesperson Lis Smith said in a statement. "This stands in stark contrast to Mitt Romney, who, as governor of Massachusetts, spoke out against coal jobs and said that a coal-fired plant 'kills people.' This is just another issue where Mitt Romney is not being honest with the American people”

Obama spoke simultaneously in Iowa about wind power, putting energy production in Tuesday's campaign spotlight.

Romney asked supporters to focus on the president's policies and ignore the rhetoric, even while ratcheting up his own words toward the president in an effort to win support from the mostly white, blue-collar community here -- a hotly contested demographic whose support could decide this critical swing state.

"He said if he’s elected president and his policies get put in place the cost of energy would skyrocket. That’s one [promise] he’s kept. He also said you can go out and build a new coal plant if you want but if you do you’ll go bankrupt. That’s another promise he’s intent on keeping," Romney said. "His vice president said coal is more dangerous than terrorists. Can you imagine that?" Romney asked the crowd, many of whom booed in response.

To that end, Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH), who until last week was considered by many political observers a favorite to be selected as Romney's vice president, introduced the GOP contender here in what he said looked like "Romney country" and played up the rural background of Romney's running mate Paul Ryan, a hunter and fisherman who he called "smart," "articulate," and "a Midwesterner who shares our values."

Romney concluded his remarks here with a rare call-to-action, urging the coal miners here in attendance to spark a conversation with their friends and colleagues and ask them to support the Republican ticket.

"I want you to use your own words to convince one person," Romney asked. "If you could do that every day I would win, but if you could just do it once a month I'd probably win as well. This is a place where we can spread out the message that you're hearing today and say you know what? America is back."

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I have seen some lying politicians over the years, but Willard has elevated it to an art form!

He is literally pathological and so are his supporters!

If Willard isn't familiar with Ryan's budget, then why did he call it marvelous?

Kudos to Mark McKinnon, one of the few sane members of today's GNOP for telling it like it is!

He recognizes the writing on the wall! lol

  • 19 votes
#1 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

Yeah, Romney talking about an issue. Can't have that. I guess Obama will respond with something about tax returns.

What do you think Dumbfux old gal? These discussions about real issues getting too complicated for you? Of course oatmeal is too complicated for you.

  • 10 votes
#1.1 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

Tuesday (08/14/2012) in Ohio - The campaign’s new “no cuts to Medicare” position significantly complicates Romney’s pledge to hold federal spending at 20% of GDP by 2016 and his promise to balance the budget at the end of his second term. It also contradicts what Romney told reporters in Miami on Monday

Monday (08/13/2012) - Romney fully embraced his running mate’s proposal. During a press availability in Miami, Romney turned down three opportunities to explain how his vision would differ from Ryan’s, telling reporters, “my plan for Medicare is very similar to his [Ryan] plan for Medicare.”

Sunday (08/12/2012) on 60 minutes – My budget plan is the one that will be used (throwing Ryan under the bus).

Now he is flip flopping faster than a fish out of water.

  • 18 votes
#1.2 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

Trying to kill coal will thwart Obama. Coal provides 40% of the nations electricity. There is no available replacement.

  • 11 votes
#1.3 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:03 PM EDT

Of course oatmeal is too complicated for you.

If anyone knows something about oats, it would be our dear old Snuffy & her precious feed-bag!

These discussions about real issues getting too complicated for you

Says someone who wouldn't recognize a real issue if it bit her on her fly riddled ass!

YAY!

You called me DumbFux - come on honey... do it again will ya?

  • 16 votes
#1.4 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

I think there should be about 5 more articles on dogs. Then get an emergency address from Hussein on Dogs.

  • 6 votes
#1.5 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

I have something to tell Mitt Romney and the Republicans, America never was gone. Despite repeated attempts by the GOP to destroy America, it is growing stronger every day. It is only the brain dead policies of the Republicans that will hurt America.

ZOMBIES for ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 !!!!

  • 12 votes
#1.6 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:10 PM EDT

Scott: Trying to kill coal will thwart Obama. Coal provides 40% of the nations electricity. There is no available replacement.

It does. It even powers those computer thingys the libbies use to go on AlGores internet and rant about how coal is so evil.

Obama/Biden 2012 - "We hate progress"

  • 9 votes
#1.7 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

Medical records.

Romney should show us his medical records.

He seem to suffer from short term memory loss.

"Flip Flopping" the pattern looks more like short term memory loss?

  • 14 votes
#1.8 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:13 PM EDT

It does. It even powers those computer thingys the libbies use to go on AlGores internet and rant about how coal is so evil.

Obama/Biden 2012 - "We hate progress"

Are you seriously trying to insinuate that coal isn't the dirtiest energy source we have? Just because we use it so much, it must mean it isn't bad, right?

  • 14 votes
#1.9 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:20 PM EDT

This is just another issue where Mitt Romney is not being honest with the American people”

I seriously wonder if there is a tally board somewhere that tracks all of his BS. He constantly reminds me of a third-grader! If you don't know the answer, just make something up that might have a little something to do with the topic and then run with it as if it were an actual fact!

  • 14 votes
#1.10 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

Romney should show us his medical records

Gosh yes!! Then he needs to release his dogs medical records.

Get Axelrod on the horn, stat!!

  • 9 votes
#1.11 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

Perhaps President Obama is like me - understands the needs of coal and harvesting it, however, I absolutely hate the stripping effect left on the mountains, if the mountain folk in WV no longer wish to live in the mountains (and how bad would that be for those snow skiers in Snow Shoe?) perhaps they should live in oklahoma instead. Coal is not the problem, using the coal is not the problem, harvesting it in strip fashion is a big problem. Even if it were not to cause other problems, get a grip folks - it just looks downright ugly. I have had severe right wingers come back from WV, VA, and Ohio quite upset that the strip mining has left so much damage to the earth. Not everyone thinks we should eventually let the earth look like a futuristic SIFI movie.

  • 12 votes
#1.12 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

Romney concluded his remarks here with a rare call-to-action, urging the coal miners here in attendance to spark a conversation with their friends and colleagues and ask them to support the Republican ticket.

How cute - Republicans for coal. No wonder they are such a nasty, vicious crowd. They all get coal in their little stockings each and every Christmas. Of course, never ones to look a gift horse in the mouth, I have no doubt they use it for a variety of reasons, mascara, eyebrows, hair color enhancer. Why you can even smash it up and snort it like cocaine. Nothing like a good case of black lung.

One thing is for sure - the GOP/TP like it dirty - as dirty and sooty as coal dust.

Shoutout to coal miners - how are you enjoying those great job protections you have, courtesy of the business friendly GOP/TP? I know those collapsing mines are bitch. What about all that coal sludge? Ain't coal mining worker and environmentally friendly?

  • 16 votes
#1.13 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:24 PM EDT

And how many coal miners die from black lung disease every year?

Scott - you're right - there is no AVAILABLE replacement - which is why we should be concentrating on building and researching replacement energy sources.

And for the miners who get black lung disease Mitt/Paul plan healthcare that just cuts them off. After all, they're just miners!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 16 votes
#1.14 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:26 PM EDT

I seriously wonder if there is a tally board somewhere that tracks all of his BS.

A blog was started, but the server was quickly swamped and they ran out of storage space. They tried to use 'the cloud', but even that proved to small to store the BS.

  • 13 votes
#1.15 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

@JoAnnaSmith1

I do not care about Romney's dog.

Romney does "flip flop" to the point,

he does seem to have short term memory loss.

  • 10 votes
#1.16 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

Oh please, this is the Gov. of Mass who refused to licence a coal fired plant there because it kills people.

  • 12 votes
#1.17 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:33 PM EDT

It looks like the republicans are now going through buyer’s remorse for picking this foolish man, Willard Mitt-Wit Romney the talking lying buffoon, as the Republican choice for President of the United States. You people really sit your bar low.

The bottom line is Willard and Little Eddie are "DAMN GOOD AT LYING."

  • 12 votes
#1.18 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

Oh please, this is the Gov. of Mass who refused to licence a coal fired plant there because it kills people.

Coal plants have killed more people than nuclear. This is a fact.

  • 10 votes
#1.19 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

And how many coal miners die from black lung disease every year?

Willard and Little Eddie don't care, because it effects the bottom line. They feel you just need to throw another body in there.

  • 10 votes
#1.20 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:37 PM EDT

Hey Feisty, I see you all over the last 2 threads but nary a word on Biden's comments today.

What's the matter Old Gal, cat got your tongue?

  • 6 votes
#1.21 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

Feisty is paid to stay on course White Collar. You know, being a clueless troglodyte

  • 4 votes
#1.22 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:56 PM EDT
alexandr1Deleted

alexandr1 - People like you who call people who actually give a damn about the country terrorists are only deluding yourselves. We all know you don't give a damn about anything but yourselves.

You don't have the brain of a newborn and yet you crow at the top of your lungs to spread your intolerance and your total ignorance of any and everything.

Then you put people who are trying to improve the country down. You're a disgrace to the human race and a pitiable example of a person. But, you're a good Republican - no honor; no integrity; no intelligence; no courage; no nothing!

The next time you're going to call someone a terrorist you should look in the mirror. You are the filthiest piece of scum on the board.

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 8 votes
#1.24 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

White Collar Auto,

Biden sounds like he belongs here at FR.

  • 4 votes
#1.25 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

there is seeking again, failing to take its own advice. Have you looked in the mirror seeking? not one of those cartoon/trick mirrors either. seeking can you define irony?

  • 2 votes
#1.26 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

.

  • 1 vote
#1.27 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

Hey Feisty, I see you all over the last 2 threads but nary a word on Biden's comments today

STALKER ALERT... STALKER ALERT... STALKER ALERT!!!

Get back to me when you locate your balls...

Such a tough guy with Democrats and you fold like a cheap suit when dealing with your own ilk! What a wuss!

BIG BAD WCA - a coward in creeps clothing!

  • 8 votes
#1.28 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

You are the filthiest piece of scum on the board.

Get back to me when you locate your balls...

Nah, Seeking, folks who make statements like that are.

  • 3 votes
#1.29 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

Nothing about Biden's remarks?

  • 2 votes
#1.30 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

thetotas, Biden's remarks are as useful and meaningful as Feisty, so in short yes he belongs here.

White Collar, its sad since seeking thinks it so pompous we all should bow before its glorious intelligence. again though, the moniker is seeking sanity while it proclaims to side with liberalism. Sigma Cum Laude

  • 2 votes
#1.31 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

JAS1-

Its just so darn difficult to focus on the issues with Romney, every time you turn around he has changed his position! Maybe we should have a series of debates this Fall - where Romney debates himself.....

MItt Romney Just days after his 2002 election, Mr. Romney hired Douglas Foy, one of the state’s most prominent environmental activists, and put him in charge of supervising four state agencies.

Gov. Mitt Romney and Douglas Foy at a March 2006 event.

Mr. Foy had initiated a lawsuit that led to the cleanup of Boston Harbor and had worked to protect fishing grounds and seashores. Once in the Romney administration, he served as the governor’s negotiator on a regional climate-change initiative and put emissions caps in place for coal-fired power plants.

With Mr. Foy by his side, Mr. Romney joined activists outside an aging, coal-fired plant in 2003 to show his commitment to the emissions caps. “I will not create jobs or hold jobs that kill people, and that plant, that plant kills people,” he said.

Mr. Romney, while implementing the emissions caps, ultimately backed away from the regional climate-change agreement in 2005, a decision announced on the same day he said he would not seek re-election as governor, stoking speculation that he would run for president.[Emphasis added]

//junkscience.com/2011/10/05/romney-in-2003-coal-plant-kills-people/

This flip/flop is in addition to Romney's complete reversal of his positions on Abortion, Healthcare, Minimum Wage, Gay Rights, Gun Control, Stem Cell Research, Taxes, releasing Tax Returns, and Blind Trusts. Did I miss any?

No wonder Mitt Romney was called a "a Well-Oiled Weathervane" by a fellow Republican.

Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!

  • 7 votes
#1.32 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

Hehehehe

Fisty is torn when it comes to Biden... you see... he is EVERYTHING she hates...

RICH, OLD and WHITE!

Unfortunately she cannot toss her hate his way since that would be to step out of line with the rest of the loons. So... she bites her tongue.

HEY FISTY! SHOW ME THE CLOWN NOSE!

  • 4 votes
#1.33 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

dumbfux again disappears when challenged on facts. and still refuses to say why obama should have another term.

can only rant against the opponent; cannot support her team; clearly no confidence in the big BO from the little red.

  • 2 votes
#1.34 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

Oh look! Smiffy's out of rehab!

WhiteCollarCriminal now has a fresh skirt to hide behind!

  • 7 votes
#1.35 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:20 PM EDT
alexandr1Deleted

ALEX

SS has the brain of a two year old. He voted for O don't ya know.

Thats proof enough.

  • 1 vote
#1.37 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

alexandr1 - you are the epitome of filth, lies and stupidity. It's all you've got - it's all you are! You're a disgrace to humanity but that makes you perfect for the GOP.

rukidding likes you - that's enough right there!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 6 votes
#1.38 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

alexandr1 - Just recently your buddy violated the CofH by calling someone a less than manly person who believes in circle jerks while catching slime on his cheeck! And YOU continued the discussion with you childish attempt to downgrade that person! You're a damned liar. I was NOT part of that post - don't even know where it was.

Call names all you want it's typical for a slimy gutter rodent like you! It's the best we expect and you don't surprise us! You are a typical lowlife, lacking intelligence Republican!

Obama/Biden 2012 - so these cretins will go away!

  • 4 votes
#1.39 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:21 PM EDT
alexandr1Deleted

Just recently your buddy violated the CofH by calling someone a less than manly person who believes in circle jerks while catching slime on his cheeck!

Actually @!$%#, what I was implying was the semen running off his lips!

Can WE at least keep the story straight? Azzwipe?

Now... run along little re-reg and LICK your wound! ;)

  • 1 vote
#1.41 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:45 PM EDT
Reply

Romney calls a Wind Turbine, a Wind Mill.

I'm not sure he knows that much about "clean" energy.

  • 16 votes
#2 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:56 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJoAnnaSmith1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

sandy: I'm not sure he [Romney] knows that much about "clean" energy.

Looking forward to Obama prattling on about his expertise in clean energy, such as his endeavor into Solyndra.

How many wind "turbines" do you have sandy?

  • 9 votes
#2.1 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:03 PM EDT

"This stands in stark contrast to Mitt Romney, who, as governor of Massachusetts, spoke out against coal jobs and said that a coal-fired plant 'kills people.' This is just another issue where Mitt Romney is not being honest with the American people”

Romney is a liar, as well as ignorant about energy issues.

  • 18 votes
#2.2 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

Amy, clearly so is obama. How did Solydra work out again?

  • 8 votes
#2.3 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:10 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJoAnnaSmith1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Amy quotes the Obama campaign: "This stands in stark contrast to Mitt Romney, who, as governor of Massachusetts, spoke out against coal jobs and said that a coal-fired plant 'kills people.' This is just another issue where Mitt Romney is not being honest with the American people.

Poor Amy. Just another walk for her over the burning coals of the Obama campaign.

  • 8 votes
#2.4 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

True energy independence for the US involves breaking the addiction to fossil fuels--coal is a fossil fuel as is oil. True energy independence means using renewable energy sources. I agree Amy--Romney is totally ignorant about energy issues (among other things!).

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

  • 15 votes
#2.5 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:16 PM EDT

Amy - it's not that Romney doesn't know the dirty forms of energy kill people. It's that he doesn't give a damn!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 14 votes
#2.6 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

How did Solydra work out again?

When it turned out that the executives at Solyndra had close ties to, and were donating money to, powerful Republicans in congress, this little non-scandal faded away like a prom queen's wrist corsage. It pops up occasionally, then the story dies quietly, swept under the rug with a Republican broom.

So Caesar, next time you feel the urge to bring up Solyndra, ask your sorry self how many times ol' Etch-A-Sketch has raised the matter. Then ask your degenerate self who in the GOP would have instructed him to leave that sleeping dog lie.

Fail again.

http://reason.com/archives/2011/09/26/solyndra-and-the-gop

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/13/solyndra-bankrupt-solar-republican-problem_n_960287.html

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_09/solyndras_republican_paternity032460.php

  • 15 votes
#2.7 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

Romney is totally ignorant about energy issues (among other things!).

Well, not completely. He did invest Mass. government funds into green energy companies that eventually failed.

  • 14 votes
#2.8 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

JoAnnaSmith1

Poor Amy. Just another walk for her over the burning coals of the Obama campaign.

Poor you. Amy got it right about your boy and coal. 'Research before bitch' needs to become your motto.

  • 12 votes
#2.9 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:37 PM EDT

I can't figure out why these Republicans tea bag people are so worked up. Willard and Little Eddie will not be elected!!!

Perhaps Eddie will hold his seat in Congress.

  • 13 votes
#2.10 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:40 PM EDT

Hadji/Dopey 2012 "WhodaThunk!"

  • 2 votes
#2.11 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

That's actually pretty funny, JoannaSmith. Thanks for remembering: I would walk over coals to vote for President Obama's re-election. I certainly would.

  • 8 votes
#2.12 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:15 PM EDT

Paul Ryan is dreamy. I would crawl over hot goals just for a chance to look into those beautiful green eyes. Woha!

    #2.13 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

    do you think obamacare will cover the third degree burns?

    • 2 votes
    #2.14 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

    Cat -

    'Research before bitch' needs to become your motto.

    If they did that, they would either not post or become Democrats.

    Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!

    • 6 votes
    #2.15 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

    Probably not, I don't care it would be worth it.

      #2.16 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

      I would crawl over hot goals just for a chance to look into those beautiful green eyes

      You're starting to sound as stupid as Concerned Citizen!

      His eyes are BLUE!

      Which reminds me;

      "His eyes are just so blue. It's like looking into a Smurf's anus." - Jon Stewart on Paul Ryan

      • 6 votes
      #2.17 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

      [How many wind "turbines" do you have sandy?]

      Spanky, is that you?

      Smiffy jumps the shark once again.

      • 4 votes
      #2.18 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:23 PM EDT
      Reply

      In the meantime, Romney will lift mining restrictions to increase profits at the risk of their employees health and safety.

      In 2004, 28 miners died because of mine safety problems, but more than 700 died from black lung.

      http://www.npr.org/2010/04/16/126021059/the-quiet-deaths-outside-the-coal-mines

      • 15 votes
      #3 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

      Ursula: In 2004, 28 miners died because of mine safety problems, but more than 700 died from black lung.

      Well there you go Ursula, there's your next Obama attack ad - Romney is killing miners. Better send an e-mail to Axelrod, he'll be pleased to hear from you.

      • 5 votes
      #3.1 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:06 PM EDT

      And if you like drought, tornadoes, hurricanes and record heatwaves, you're going to love Romney's energy policy of increasing the burning of fossil fuels. He's going to warm up the whole globe! What a guy!

      • 12 votes
      #3.2 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:08 PM EDT

      That's what your team is all about, isn't it? Reducing restrictions that inhibit business profits? And while you're at it, bust up the damn coal miners unions! How many deaths are okay with you, JAS1?

      • 13 votes
      #3.3 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:10 PM EDT

      Romney's killing miners? keep dropping the acme anvil on yourselves liberals. LOL

      • 5 votes
      #3.4 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

      Ursy: That's what your team is all about, isn't it? Reducing restrictions that inhibit business profits? And while you're at it, bust up the damn coal miners unions! How many deaths are okay with you, JAS1?

      You're right Urs, shut them all down. Also, shut down the oil fields, too many lives lost there too. Shut down the refineries, too many lives at stake there also.

      You live in a cave Urs? Use the libraries computer? I'm certain you live the life of a Green Ursula. No hypocrisy with you I'm sure.

      Obama 2012 - "Support Green energy and buy that electric car - powered by coal"

      • 5 votes
      #3.5 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:18 PM EDT
      Comment author avatarJFK-2112Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

      Ursula, don't forget about the over 4000 people in the workplace that die each year from electricity. @!$%#, why work...way too dangerous. Lets all collect unemployment and food stamps like the liberals all do.

      • 7 votes
      #3.6 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

      JFK - reading not your strong suit is it? Or is it comprehending what you read that presents a problem for your?

      From the American Burn Association Electrical Safety Guide:

      In the United States, on average 400 die from electrocution and 4,400 are injured each year because of electrical hazards. Of these, 180 are related to consumer products. Another 325 die and 4,000 are injured in workplace electrical accidents, according to data published by the
      National Safety Council.

      Don't know if you don't know how to read or if you just intentionally lie! I'm guessing you're just another Republican liar.

      And, the welfare/food stamp comment is just another stupid GOP post. Everyone I know works and I don't know anyone receiving government help. However, if someone needed it, I have no problem with that.

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 14 votes
      #3.7 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

      Republicans:

      Fighting against workplace safety, minimum wage laws, child labor restrictions, unemployment insurance, Medicare, Social Security, and environmental protections since 1933.

      They don't change much, do they?

      • 11 votes
      #3.8 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

      JAS1 has a new tenet to add to the Randian world view: the virtue of having expendable workers.

      • 12 votes
      #3.9 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

      bcwc: JAS1 has a new tenet to add to the Randian world view: the virtue of having expendable workers.

      So where do you get your energy from bcwc? Wind mills (err turbines), solar, having a generator on your stationary bike, which?

      • 3 votes
      #3.10 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

      JAS! hydro-electric dams. Do not own a car. Walk. Electric subway. Oh and hot air from Republicans.

      • 8 votes
      #3.11 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

      And how do you think the goods you buy get to market bcwc? Pony express? Or do you have your own farm too?

      • 2 votes
      #3.12 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

      JAS1 - for those of us lucky enough to live in beautiful Colorado - SOLAR. We replaced our southfacing roof with panels. We store more than we use so it's sold back to the local electric provider. Then we take it one step further and donate the $$ to the local food bank. It's a win win for everyone.

      And in answer to the next question...yes there were government incentives to do this but we did not take them. Nor do we claim the charitable $$ on our tax returns.

      WHY do we do all this? Because it's the right thing to do for those who have less than us and it's the right thing to do for our planet.

      Signed,

      A proud flamin' librul

      • 8 votes
      #3.13 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

      more like a feral barn cat. Rabid and unpersonable.

      • 1 vote
      #3.14 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

      JoAnna: Hate to burst your bubble, but many mid-size trucks are being converted to natural gas and electric...meaning batteries. So your reference of goods to market is lame, many transportation companies are converting their fleets to natural gas and electric. UPS and FED-EX are prime examples.

      In fact, the metro buses in my city use natural gas. Keeps emissions down and burns cleaner, economical too.

      • 5 votes
      #3.15 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

      Caesar - and you would be the barn rat!

      • 3 votes
      #3.16 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

      seeking..im rubber youre glue

      Hadji/Dopey "Hey America, shove IT"

      • 1 vote
      #3.17 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

      JAS1 -

      What is wrong with demanding sensible regulations to balance the safety of the workers with the energy needs of the country?

      You Tea Party types just can't stand the thought of compromise, can you?

      Paul Ryan: The Deficit? I Built That!

      • 3 votes
      #3.18 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:36 PM EDT
      Reply

      "Romulian Romney" has NO clue on energy usage, and he has NO energy plan for the future. "Romulian Romney" and "Richie Rich" Ryan want to sell the nation a dirty bag of coal. That bag of GOP/RNC coal has NO jobs plan, no fair tax plan, and wants to set up a "Vulture" System for Medicare. The "Two Romulian's" want to sell their economic bag of coal as gold to everybody. Now the "Romulian" has big bags of gold for the top 1% of Americans in the form of huge tax breaks. No economic regulations on the banks, no environmental regulations, and opening up Corporate tax loopholes even wider. "Richie Rich" Ryan has an economic plan that is just another GOP/RNC bag of coal, and he is trying to sell it as gold. "Goofy Grover" likes to tax the Middle Class, the Working Poor, the elderly, and the disabled however, he will not hear of taxing the very wealthy. The Koch/Coal Brothers love "Romulian Romney," and they economically "Spawned" "Richie Rich" Ryan. The "Romulian" has NO clue!

      • 5 votes
      Reply#4 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:13 PM EDT

      The so-called war on coal dates back to a 2006 Supreme Court order to the EPA to regulate greenhouse gases. That order came in a case in which the lead plaintiff was the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, the Honorable Willard Mitt Romney, Governor.

      So if Mr. Romney wants to talk about who is to blame for the problems facing the coal industry, he needs look no further than at the mirror.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#5 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

      I don't know how knowledgeable Romney is about wind power, but he's proved he's pretty good at blowing with the wind.

      • 10 votes
      #5.1 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

      ...or breaking wind (no, that was Seamus)

      • 9 votes
      #5.2 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:25 PM EDT

      Normally I would applaud such an action, especially from a Republican. But then I see he is unwilling to embrace the things he's done...

      • 4 votes
      #5.3 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:37 PM EDT
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      Obama's radical policies are deliberately destroying the coal industry and will skyrocket energy prices...

      Obama's supposed "all of the above" energy policy is a fraud..it is all destroy oil and coal, and subsidize failed green energy to the benefit of his cronies...

      It will also result in his campaign losing Ohio, WVa and PA...

      • 6 votes
      Reply#6 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

      Bob - Try again. President Obama will take Ohio, VA, PA, NC - you know - all those states you think he'll lose. Probably will lose WVA.

      See, when you develop CLEAN energy, you retrain those individuals who have been working in the coal mines so their health is no longer being damaged daily. The damage that is done is not reversible but we can limit the increased damage.

      Human beings try to make sure they are not profiting from killing others - sorry, that's the Democrats who try to do that - not Republicans!

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 10 votes
      #6.1 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

      "See, when you develop CLEAN energy"

      And when will that be? So-called green energy has been a massive failure since the Carter Administration in the 1970s.

      There is no way these boondoggles wil ever show a profit, taxpayers have to pay the bill for liberals to delude themselves about green energy ...

      • 3 votes
      #6.2 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

      It will also result in his campaign losing Ohio, WVa and PA...

      What, no women voting in those States? Gee Bob, do you think that vaginal probing thing has gone away? You do know of course that over 51% of the electorate is female. Think they will vote to be probed?

      • 8 votes
      #6.3 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

      Nine states have deregulated energy programs and are now letting customers choose the energy they receive. As more and more states take this step - there will be more development of clean energy sources. They are in the works.

      The point is - if we don't even try to move toward green energy, we will never move completely there.

      Bob, too bad you have no problem with the deaths resulting from dirty energy. Too bad you don't give a damn about the people you kill just so you can heat your home. Too bad you don't care how much of the environment you destroy - just so long as you're happy. It's the filthy, don't give a damn, Republican way!

      Typical Republican it's all ME! ME! ME! Of course you'll vote for the man who only cares about himself and doesn't care about the country. You and Romney share so many non-values!

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 8 votes
      #6.4 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

      Back on the personal attacks again ?

      North Carolina will not go for Obama. Wisconsin is now up for grabs. Ohio will possibly be the key, but the lousy economy will be the real deciding factor.

      • 2 votes
      #6.5 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

      When I read your blog and i think on the Rethuglicans we have today, they have made the old Republicans look like gentlemen to which they were. I now see why these RETHUGLICANS want to close the education department. They are a bunch of illiterate SOBs. Colin Powell already told Romney "to think."I would caution americans not to make the same mistake with Romeny as they did with Bush because look where it got us. Norquist already said all he wants is for Willard to sign what would come before him if he becomes president. Mitt Romney needs to take his Prozac to calm him self down, and he needs his meds for dementia. Romney is a a big fat LIAR. How can you trust a man that will tell it is sunday when he knows it is Monday. I can deal with a thief but a liar noone knows when he is telling the truth. Republicans plunged us into the abyss of doom over the last eight years and now people like you and others want POTUS to change this nightmare in less than three years especially with the obstruction coming from those bunch of teaparty hooligans that don't even know an asset from a liability becasue they went to school in July and August when school was on summer break. If willard is going to run this country like he is running his campaign, i pray for all of us poor folks including you, knucklehead.

        #6.6 - Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:21 AM EDT
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        You would think that with the republican mantra of deregulation and helping big corporations with increasing profits, that the coal miners would be questioning Romney and the republicans on OSHA violations and ignoring safety rules and regulations in the mines that have resulted in several mine accidents over the past several years; thereby increasing the profit for the mine owners.

        Nothing on how to help make mining safer and better for the miner's health, but lets rally the neighbors for support of the republicans. Never mind that we won't help you with your wages, health, or safety; ignore that aspect. Just get out there and spread the word that republicans are pro coal. Great message!!

        • 5 votes
        Reply#7 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

        "Paul Ryan introduced a budget plan that would overhaul Medicare and make deep cuts to other social and healthcare programs because he believes the American people have said loud and clear: 'stop using my tax dollars to take care of me.'" -Seth Meyers

        • 5 votes
        Reply#8 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

        So Govnah, when we went from oil lamps to gas and eventually electric lighting last century we had a war on whale oil or on gas for gas lights? Buggy whip makers up in arms because the was a war on them because no more buggies but cars?

        The power of the 18th Century was horse and steam. In the 19th Century steam produced by coal and oil were king. The 20th Century was powered by oil and other hydrocarbons. This is the 21st Century and instead of going in reverse like Mr. Romney wants, President Obama wants to move foreward into the future by promoting cleaner, safer, renewable, home grown energy. There will be an occasional misstep along the way but we must move ahead. America must lead the world in safe, clean, renewable, reliable, home produced energy. Currently we aren't even folllowing countires like Brazil and France in their attention to and promotion of foreward thinking energy policies.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#9 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

        Driving cars and trucks that use gasoline and diesel fuel, causes more medical diseases than smoking, second hand smoke, burning coal, or past infections combined, caused by plagues! BUT OUR DEPENDENCE UPON THE OIL INDUSTRY WILL EXIST AS LONG AS IT IS READILY AVAILABLE, AND OUR MILITARY MIGHT ALLOWS FOR IT TO BE USED, BEFORE WE USE OUR PRECIOUS RESOURCES HERE! Wake up and smell the flowers! {;-(]

        • 2 votes
        Reply#10 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

        Gary2009 - what flowers? The Republicans are all for killing them as long as they have their oil and coal!

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 3 votes
        #10.1 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:16 PM EDT
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        SeekingSanity

        Gary2009 - what flowers? The Republicans are all for killing them as long as they have their oil and coal!

        Obama/Biden 2012

        Whats the name of your Horse?

          Reply#11 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

          OilShark1 - I live in the city and am fortunate that I can take public transportation to work if I want.

          Actually, I'm trying to walk more and more. Work is less than 3 miles from home and it's great exercise! When I drive, I drive a Hybrid.

          My horse's name is Buttercup!

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 4 votes
          #11.1 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

          Glad your on top of being eco friendly since that lithium battery is so safe for enviroment. Just the fact of who your voting for tells me your an idiot aside from the fact you drive a hybrid. DRILL DRILL DRILL

          • 1 vote
          #11.2 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

          Oil - I believe your post proves YOU'RE the idiot. Drill as much as you like - maybe all the way to China! You can go there too. It will suit you just fine!

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 3 votes
          #11.3 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

          of course, thats the response of someone with zero facts.

          • 1 vote
          #11.4 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:50 PM EDT

          Oil - zero facts is the summation of all of your posts. Zero, nada, zilch, zip!

          • 3 votes
          #11.5 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:53 PM EDT
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          this is the whopper lie of the year!!!!

          In this energy-rich and politically important part of the state, Romney renewed his call for achieving energy independence by the end of his second term.

          Ok so Romney is going to drill the extra 30 million or so barrels a day here in the US to achieve energy independents.

          Yea Right.

          this guy keeps opening his mouth not thinking that his comments will get back to his opponent.

          Coal are the leading cause of work place accidents,

          coal plants are a hazard and getting rid of the waste is impossible just like nuclear waste.

          he(Romney) while governor did not like coal becasuse of what is does to our air, but now once again he is going against his own better judgement just to get elected.

          i see why John McCain hated this goof!!!!!

          • 6 votes
          Reply#12 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

          Jeff - I'm still laughing - Romney's BETTER judgement???? Romney has NO judgement - just regurgitates what he's fed every day by his handlers and clearly they're as dumb as he is!

          McCain was RIGHT ON TARGET with this loon!

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 5 votes
          #12.1 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:52 PM EDT
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          Arsenic, lead and mercury are plentiful too. Let's make more use of them. Just because coal is cheap and plentiful and "born in America," doesn't mean we can ignore the social costs. Hell, we've already reached the stage where blowing off the tops of entire mountains is OK. Some of us see that as some form of madness (probably related to that mercury above).

          • 3 votes
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